[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. One thing that might help is to rent a copy of Tibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film The Cup. The actors in his film are all monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. They give one a more real view of the *humanness* that exists in real monks, and of the things they really think about on a daily basis. This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It's really a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing the mindset of the East. The basic plot revolves around some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery who are scheming to find some way to rent a TV and a satellite dish so that they can watch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's first film. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famous teacher from the past. I met him briefly in Santa Fe when he was there on a fundraising tour, and have rarely been so impressed. The room was full of rich potential donors, all clammoring for his attention, to get him to focus on them and give them some strokes in return for the money they were going to contribute to the film. His *equan- imity* in the face of this was what was impressive. He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention, whether they were one of the richest people in the world (one of whom was there), or a young kid working his third job serving tea. Neat to see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment
Remember the Disney cartoon Dumbo? His friend and mentor gives him a magical feather that allows him to fly when he holds it in his trunk. The thing is, the feather wasn't magical. It was a *trick*, some- thing that allowed Dumbo to transcend his own self- imposed limitations and realize an ability that had always been available to him. I think that this is an interesting metaphor to keep in mind when looking at spiritual traditions. With the arrival of some pundits in Fairfield I would expect to see more of something I've seen in other spiritual groups. That is, people reporting good experiences or even realization experiences, because now they have an *excuse* to do so. They have been given a magical feather. A teacher comes to town and does a certain empower- ment (in a Tibetan Buddhist context) or the teacher announces some kind of phase shift in the overall environment or enough buttbouncers gather together or some pundits come to town and start chanting. And what happens? Suddenly it's OK to have good experiences. It's now *permissible* to have better experiences, and thus people start having them. What I wonder about is how much mood making (in a slightly negative sense) or giving permission to oneself (in a more positive sense) is involved in this phenomenon (which seems to appear in *every* spiritual trip). This is *not* a negative rap about TM, or any other technique. I am firmly convinced that much of self discovery is *tricking* oneself (one's self) into recognizing what has always already been present, but which for various reasons one never gave oneself permission to notice before. It's as if the empower- ment or the announcement or the correct numbers or the chanting pundits act as some kind of catalyst, *NOT* in the sense that these events actually *DO* anything, but in the sense that seekers *perceive* them as an event that allows them to open their minds to what is already present. Anyway, I just thought I'd throw it out as something to ponder when reports of the good experiences start coming in, attributed directly to the arrival of the pundits. Me, I suspect that the experiences will be no different than they ever were. It'll just be that bored, uninspired seekers will have a legit- imate excuse to view their everyday states of attention in a new way, and thus realize that they haven't been nearly as boring and uninspiring as they'd thought they were. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Weirdest sandhis: -aH + a -- -o zero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.mum.edu/vedicreserve Choose Rk veda Mandala 1 Goto page 132 of the pd-file. Look at row 18, 4th, 5th and 6th word. (transliterated: gRbhiito 'martyo martyena) Did you find them? Line 18: apaang praang eti svadhayaa gRbhiito 'martyo martyena sayoniH pada-paaTha (word-reading = without sandhi): apaang; praang; eti; svadhayaa; gRbhiitaH; amartyaH; martyena; sayoniH Note, that gRbhiitaH + amartyaH becomes by the rules of sandhi gRbhiito 'martyaH; by another rule amartyaH + martyena becomes amartyo martyena. Well, martyena is the instrumental sinular form of martya (martya-by, etc.) Thus, the words amartya (immortal) and martya (mortal) end up looking exactly the same, save being in different inflectional cases. On the other hand, the melodic accent of amartya is, in the nominative case, on the first syllable: ámartyaH. That's true of martya, too: mártya. Because we are not familiar with the devanaagarii indication of accents, it's hard for us to tell whether those words are exactly the same in recitation. If that's not the case, that would be an instance of accent functioning as (ad hoc?) suprasegmental phoneme in Vedic Sanskrit, that is the accent would be the only difference between the words (a)martya and martya in this particular case. Two rows later (*Rco akSare* parame vyoman...) is an example of that rule (-aH + a- -o + zero) being ignored as to the dropping of the initial *short* 'a', probably for metrical reasons, or stuff. Oh shucks, I hope that's not a hopeless mess... :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment
If you think that the carrot si strong in the TMO you should just imagine evangelist churches and the catholics. The idea that someone would believe that through a book not even a goo d book can they find salvation this has got to be the most over rated Carrot in the world. - Original Message From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:22:30 AMSubject: [FairfieldLife] The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment Remember the Disney cartoon "Dumbo?" His friend andmentor gives him a "magical feather" that allows himto fly when he holds it in his trunk. The thing is,the feather wasn't magical. It was a *trick*, some-thing that allowed Dumbo to transcend his own self-imposed limitations and realize an ability that hadalways been available to him.I think that this is an interesting metaphor to keepin mind when looking at spiritual traditions.With the arrival of some pundits in Fairfield I would expect to see more of something I've seen in other spiritual groups. That is, people reporting "good experiences" or even realization experiences,because now they have an *excuse* to do so. Theyhave been given a "magical feather."A teacher comes to town and does a certain empower-ment (in a Tibetan Buddhist context) or the teacherannounces some kind of "phase shift" in the overallenvironment or "enough" buttbouncers gather togetheror some pundits come to town and start chanting. And what happens? Suddenly it's "OK" to have "goodexperiences." It's now *permissible* to have "betterexperiences," and thus people start having them.What I wonder about is how much "mood making" (in a slightly negative sense) or "giving permission to oneself" (in a more positive sense) is involved in this phenomenon (which seems to appear in *every* spiritual trip).This is *not* a negative rap about TM, or any othertechnique. I am firmly convinced that much of selfdiscovery is *tricking* oneself (one's self) into recognizing what has always already been present, but which for various reasons one never gave oneselfpermission to notice before. It's as if the empower-ment or the announcement or the "correct numbers" orthe chanting pundits act as some kind of catalyst,*NOT* in the sense that these events actually *DO*anything, but in the sense that seekers *perceive*them as an event that allows them to open theirminds to what is already present.Anyway, I just thought I'd throw it out as somethingto ponder when reports of the "good experiences" start coming in, attributed directly to the arrivalof the pundits. Me, I suspect that the experienceswill be no different than they ever were. It'll justbe that bored, uninspired seekers will have a legit-imate excuse to view their everyday states of attentionin a new way, and thus realize that they haven't beennearly as boring and uninspiring as they'd thoughtthey were.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Refinement and Sharpening of the Personality
The present-day young generation is being increasingly attractedtowards personality grooming programmes. Scores of young men andwomen, and even teenagers, are joining grooming institutes andspending hefty amounts with a view to improve and smarten theirpersonalities. Many such places charge as much as ten to twentythousand rupees for 5-7 day courses. Nevertheless, the youth are notgetting the desired benefits. In spite of all the labor and expense,their personalities fail to develop the magnetic pull which they socherish, or the character traits which could ensure their success inlife. The famous maxim "All that glitters is not gold" is provingright in regard to these institutes.There is, however, a positive aspect to this phenomenon. It signifiesan increasingly strong desire in the youth to refine and reshape theirpersonalities, their awakened awareness about themselves and theirgrowing sense of responsibility towards life. This pleasant trendgives a sense of hope. Lucky indeed is the nation whose youth is alertabout their overall personality development. They appear to haverealized that now-a-days labor by itself is not sufficient for openingthe doors to success. The psychological impact cast by thepersonality, too, is important.If we want to make a mark in the world, we will have to cultivate somespecific attributes in our personalities.The first of these is effective witnessing: That is, objectivelywitnessing with deep understanding what occurs or exists before andaround. Only those who have this penetrating understanding are able toutilize their strengths effectively. Witnessing requires a very keenand perceptive vision; a vision, which is free from the defects ofprejudice and ego-sense and whose essence is what the scriptures call'neer-ksheer- vivek', that is, the subtle discriminative power. Weshould be able to assess, in the very first meeting, the generaltemperament, firmness of character, grasp of the subject matter andforesight of the person whom we are meeting. It is this discerningability, which will tell us how we can deal with the concerned personin the best possible way. If we are able to do this, every encounterwill become an educative experience. This method is particularlyeffective in times of interviews, etc.The second attribute required in this connection is far-sightedness.It has been a much talked-about quality for ages but very few actuallyknow the art of its effective application. Those who do are able toensure a bright future for themselves as well as their co-workers.What is required is to pick up clues and trends from the present andmake a projection on this basis about what could possibly happen inthe future. Chess players, successful businessmen and goodadministrators possess this quality of penetrating foresight.The third characteristic feature of a magnetic personality ispragmatism. This quality is always beneficial, whether it be a matterof examination or carrier advancement. What is our correct positionand situation vis-à-vis the circumstances? What are our strengths andweaknesses? We must have an objective and realistic assessment of allthese factors.The fourth attribute is thirst for knowledge. People acquire somedegrees and think that the task is over and now the only thing theyhave to do is to earn a livelihood, somehow. This thinking isretrogressive. Personality acquires power of attraction only when ithas a never-satisfying eagerness to acquire wider and deeperunderstanding and knowledge of itself and the world. In modernparlance it is called updating. All experts of career counselingadvise that one should keep acquiring more and more knowledge, andlearning newer and newer things in one's field of work. They evenrecommend that, apart from inculcating a reading habit, one should tryto develop the capacity for effective writing, too.These are some of the salient guidelines for bringing about refinementof the personality. The questions like "Where are we?" "What are wedoing?" etc have their importance but of the greatest importance isthe luster personality. That is why Dev Sanskriti Vishwavidyalaya atGayatri Teerth, Hardwar has compulsorily incorporated 'The art ofpersonality improvement and living' in all its programmes. It isanother matter that at this unique center of sacred and mundanelearning, one has to repay for his or her education not in terms ofmoney but altruist service; because selfless service of societythrough the talents and expertise is the only genuine certificate ofsuccess of any worthwhile personality grooming programme. for source please visit : http://www.awgp.org/gamma/LiteratureEnglish Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Better living through chemistry
I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/dining/25fruit.html THE apples of autumn are as crisp and juicy as ever. But most will be staying that crisp and juicy, if less aromatic, months longer because of a gas called SmartFresh that growers and packers are using to slow ripening. SmartFresh is just starting to be used effectively on produce other than apples. Cantaloupes and bananas treated with it are already being sold. Officials of the manufacturer, AgroFresh, as well as apple wholesalers, say that 55 to 60 percent of the apples sold in the United States are treated with SmartFresh, a synthetic gas introduced in 2002. The cost to growers is about a penny for every pound of apples, and the treatment is most likely harmless to humans, according to pesticide experts. The gas blocks the ripening effect of ethylene, a natural plant hormone that makes fruit ripen and eventually decay. A six-month-old Jonagold treated with SmartFresh is as firm as one stored for two months under traditional methods, and a Red Delicious stays crunchy for three weeks after storage, instead of one, according to James Mattheis, a postharvest physiologist for the federal Agriculture Department in Wenatchee, Wash. Since the 1960's growers have kept apples firm in warehouses by reducing oxygen and raising carbon dioxide levels in what is called controlled atmosphere storage. That has allowed some varieties to be sold all year, although they don't keep their full flavor and can go soft and mealy in stores and homes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the Disney cartoon Dumbo? His friend and mentor gives him a magical feather that allows him to fly when he holds it in his trunk. The thing is, the feather wasn't magical. It was a *trick*, some- thing that allowed Dumbo to transcend his own self- imposed limitations and realize an ability that had always been available to him. I think that this is an interesting metaphor to keep in mind when looking at spiritual traditions. The analogy I think is appropriate here is Dumbo's feather. Dumbo the elephant believed that the 'magic feather' given to him was what enabled him to fly, and that it was special. But it was a trick. He never needed *anything* to be able to fly. --Barry, 3/18/06 Remember 'Dumbo?' Dumbo was convinced that it was the magic feather given to him by his guru that enabled him to fly, so he flew. As it turns out, the feather never did diddleysquat; the ability to fly was always present, just not realized. --Barry, 5/8/2006 (Barry, your consistency is showing.) With the arrival of some pundits in Fairfield I would expect to see more of something I've seen in other spiritual groups. That is, people reporting good experiences or even realization experiences, because now they have an *excuse* to do so. They have been given a magical feather. A teacher comes to town and does a certain empower- ment (in a Tibetan Buddhist context) or the teacher announces some kind of phase shift in the overall environment or enough buttbouncers gather together or some pundits come to town and start chanting. And what happens? Suddenly it's OK to have good experiences. It's now *permissible* to have better experiences, and thus people start having them. Actually, if you'd been reading the traffic, you'd know that people have been reporting better experiences almost from the start of the current course and have continued to do so. This has been one of the main selling points of the course, in fact; not sure how you've managed to miss it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] St. Louis named most dangerous U.S. city
Enlighten me. Is this a spreading of the so-called washing-machine effect? If so, will the pandits make it even worse? Will the pandits make it better? ST. LOUIS - A surge in violence made St. Louis the most dangerous city in the country, leading a trend of violent crimes rising much faster in the Midwest than in the rest of nation, according to an annual list. The city has long fared poorly in the rankings of the safest and most dangerous American cities compiled by Morgan Quitno Press. Violent crime surged nearly 20 percent in St. Louis from 2004 to last year, when the rate of such crimes rose most dramatically in the Midwest, according toFBI figures released in June. It's just sad the way this city is, resident Sam Dawson said. On the news you hear killings, someone's been shot. The ranking, being released Monday, came as the city was still celebrating Friday'sWorld Series victory at the new Busch Stadium. St. Louis has been spending millions of dollars on urban renewal even as the crime rate climbs. Mayor Francis Slay did not return calls to his office seeking comment Sunday. Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno Press, a private research and publishing company specializing in state and city reference books, said he was not surprised to see St. Louis top the list, since it has been among the 10 most dangerous cities for years. The study looks at crime only within St. Louis city limits, with a population of about 330,000, Morgan said. It doesn't take into account the suburbs in St. Louis County, which has roughly 980,000 residents. Visiting St. Louis on Thursday, FBI director Robert Mueller said it was too early to tell why some types of crime were rising faster in the Midwest. Mueller said the FBI is working harder to form partnerships with police departments to launch programs like St. Louis' Safe Streets task force, which focuses police efforts on problematic neighborhoods. The safest city in 2005 was Brick, N.J., with a population about 78,000, followed by Amherst, N.Y., and Mission Viejo, Calif. The second most dangerous city was Detroit, followed by Flint, Mich., and Compton, Calif. The bad news for St. Louis was good for Camden, N.J., which in 2005 was named the most dangerous city for the second year in a row. Camden Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said Sunday she was thrilled to learn that her city no longer topped the most-dangerous list. You made my day! said Faison, who has served since 2000. There's a new hope and a new spirit. Cities are ranked based on more than just their crime rate, Morgan said. Individual crimes such as rape or burglary are measured separately, compared to national averages and then compiled to give a city its ranking. Crimes are weighted based on their level of danger. The national FBI figures released in June showed the murder rate in St. Louis jumped 16 percent from 2004 to 2005, compared with 4.8 percent nationally. The overall violent crime rate increased nearly 20 percent, compared with 2.5 percent nationally. While crime increased in all regions last year, the 5.7 percent rise in the 12 Midwestern states was at least three times higher than any other region, according to the FBI. Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. My sister, who recently moved to Vermont, has some old apple trees on her property that haven't been cared for and look pretty miserable. But she discovered a couple of small, misshapen, but nice red apples on one of them, picked one, and ate it. She says it was fantastic, vastly better than any of the commercial apples she's had in years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Remember the Disney cartoon Dumbo? His friend and mentor gives him a magical feather that allows him to fly when he holds it in his trunk. The thing is, the feather wasn't magical. It was a *trick*, some- thing that allowed Dumbo to transcend his own self- imposed limitations and realize an ability that had always been available to him. I think that this is an interesting metaphor to keep in mind when looking at spiritual traditions. The analogy I think is appropriate here is Dumbo's feather. Dumbo the elephant believed that the 'magic feather' given to him was what enabled him to fly, and that it was special. But it was a trick. He never needed *anything* to be able to fly. --Barry, 3/18/06 Remember 'Dumbo?' Dumbo was convinced that it was the magic feather given to him by his guru that enabled him to fly, so he flew. As it turns out, the feather never did diddleysquat; the ability to fly was always present, just not realized. --Barry, 5/8/2006 (Barry, your consistency is showing.) With the arrival of some pundits in Fairfield I would expect to see more of something I've seen in other spiritual groups. That is, people reporting good experiences or even realization experiences, because now they have an *excuse* to do so. They have been given a magical feather. A teacher comes to town and does a certain empower- ment (in a Tibetan Buddhist context) or the teacher announces some kind of phase shift in the overall environment or enough buttbouncers gather together or some pundits come to town and start chanting. And what happens? Suddenly it's OK to have good experiences. It's now *permissible* to have better experiences, and thus people start having them. Actually, if you'd been reading the traffic, you'd know that people have been reporting better experiences almost from the start of the current course and have continued to do so. This has been one of the main selling points of the course, in fact; not sure how you've managed to miss it. For the uninitiated, this is Judy's way of agreeing with someone. She can't seem to bring herself to do so without trying to turn it into a putdown. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Refinement and Sharpening of the Personality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ankur Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me he didn't write this specially for this post. I really have no idea what it says, but it sounds awfully high mided based on the first line or two. lurk The present-day young generation is being increasingly attracted towards personality grooming programmes. Scores of young men and women, and even teenagers, are joining grooming institutes and spending hefty amounts with a view to improve and smarten their personalities. Many such places charge as much as ten to twenty thousand rupees for 5-7 day courses. Nevertheless, the youth are not getting the desired benefits. In spite of all the labor and expense, their personalities fail to develop the magnetic pull which they so cherish, or the character traits which could ensure their success in life. The famous maxim All that glitters is not gold is proving right in regard to these institutes. There is, however, a positive aspect to this phenomenon. It signifies an increasingly strong desire in the youth to refine and reshape their personalities, their awakened awareness about themselves and their growing sense of responsibility towards life. This pleasant trend gives a sense of hope. Lucky indeed is the nation whose youth is alert about their overall personality development. They appear to have realized that now-a-days labor by itself is not sufficient for opening the doors to success. The psychological impact cast by the personality, too, is important. If we want to make a mark in the world, we will have to cultivate some specific attributes in our personalities. The first of these is effective witnessing: That is, objectively witnessing with deep understanding what occurs or exists before and around. Only those who have this penetrating understanding are able to utilize their strengths effectively. Witnessing requires a very keen and perceptive vision; a vision, which is free from the defects of prejudice and ego-sense and whose essence is what the scriptures call 'neer-ksheer- vivek', that is, the subtle discriminative power. We should be able to assess, in the very first meeting, the general temperament, firmness of character, grasp of the subject matter and foresight of the person whom we are meeting. It is this discerning ability, which will tell us how we can deal with the concerned person in the best possible way. If we are able to do this, every encounter will become an educative experience. This method is particularly effective in times of interviews, etc. The second attribute required in this connection is far- sightedness. It has been a much talked-about quality for ages but very few actually know the art of its effective application. Those who do are able to ensure a bright future for themselves as well as their co-workers. What is required is to pick up clues and trends from the present and make a projection on this basis about what could possibly happen in the future. Chess players, successful businessmen and good administrators possess this quality of penetrating foresight. The third characteristic feature of a magnetic personality is pragmatism. This quality is always beneficial, whether it be a matter of examination or carrier advancement. What is our correct position and situation vis-à-vis the circumstances? What are our strengths and weaknesses? We must have an objective and realistic assessment of all these factors. The fourth attribute is thirst for knowledge. People acquire some degrees and think that the task is over and now the only thing they have to do is to earn a livelihood, somehow. This thinking is retrogressive. Personality acquires power of attraction only when it has a never-satisfying eagerness to acquire wider and deeper understanding and knowledge of itself and the world. In modern parlance it is called updating. All experts of career counseling advise that one should keep acquiring more and more knowledge, and learning newer and newer things in one's field of work. They even recommend that, apart from inculcating a reading habit, one should try to develop the capacity for effective writing, too. These are some of the salient guidelines for bringing about refinement of the personality. The questions like Where are we? What are we doing? etc have their importance but of the greatest importance is the luster personality. That is why Dev Sanskriti Vishwavidyalaya at Gayatri Teerth, Hardwar has compulsorily incorporated 'The art of personality improvement and living' in all its programmes. It is another matter that at this unique center of sacred and mundane learning, one has to repay for his or her education not in terms of money but altruist service; because selfless service of society through the talents and expertise is the only genuine certificate of success of any worthwhile personality grooming programme. for
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dumbo Theory of Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Remember the Disney cartoon Dumbo? His friend and mentor gives him a magical feather that allows him to fly when he holds it in his trunk. The thing is, the feather wasn't magical. It was a *trick*, some- thing that allowed Dumbo to transcend his own self- imposed limitations and realize an ability that had always been available to him. I think that this is an interesting metaphor to keep in mind when looking at spiritual traditions. The analogy I think is appropriate here is Dumbo's feather. Dumbo the elephant believed that the 'magic feather' given to him was what enabled him to fly, and that it was special. But it was a trick. He never needed *anything* to be able to fly. --Barry, 3/18/06 Remember 'Dumbo?' Dumbo was convinced that it was the magic feather given to him by his guru that enabled him to fly, so he flew. As it turns out, the feather never did diddleysquat; the ability to fly was always present, just not realized. --Barry, 5/8/2006 (Barry, your consistency is showing.) With the arrival of some pundits in Fairfield I would expect to see more of something I've seen in other spiritual groups. That is, people reporting good experiences or even realization experiences, because now they have an *excuse* to do so. They have been given a magical feather. A teacher comes to town and does a certain empower- ment (in a Tibetan Buddhist context) or the teacher announces some kind of phase shift in the overall environment or enough buttbouncers gather together or some pundits come to town and start chanting. And what happens? Suddenly it's OK to have good experiences. It's now *permissible* to have better experiences, and thus people start having them. Actually, if you'd been reading the traffic, you'd know that people have been reporting better experiences almost from the start of the current course and have continued to do so. This has been one of the main selling points of the course, in fact; not sure how you've managed to miss it. For the uninitiated, this is Judy's way of agreeing with someone. She can't seem to bring herself to do so without trying to turn it into a putdown. :-) Translation: Barry made another stupid mistake in predicting that reporting of better experiences would *begin* with the pundits' arrival, when in fact such reports have been coming thick and fast ever since the course began. He needed to find a way to put down the people who are excited about the pundits' arrival (since the predictions that they would never arrive have been proved wrong), and heck, he hadn't used his Dumbo analogy since last May, so it was about time to haul it out again anyway. Like Rush Limbaugh, Barry never lets facts get in the way of a good putdown. And like Rush, Barry can never bring himself to admit a mistake when the facts intervene, so he tries to distract attention from it with another attempt at a putdown. It's called shooting the messenger. Too bad his aim is so bad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was more time. I was wondering, how is this going to all get finished? Then at about 11, someone received a call, the Pandit bus is in Iowa City. We had an hour. So we all just kept doing what we were doing only it felt more intense. One could feel one's awareness and settledness being challenged by the pace and intensity of activity. Outside, the paint was being scraped off the outside of the windows by men on ladders, and people were stringing 4-5 rows of holiday lights all over the new temporary fence outside and laying out red carpet since it had rained before and the ground was soft. Inside, skilled people were finishing final repairs on lights etc. in different areas, and different teams of people were swarming in and out of rooms outfitting each room with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
It's clear that pundits provides a higher purpose for people's lives. Service. Way of Trotika and all that. May it be true! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was more time. I was wondering, how is this going to all get finished? Then at about 11, someone received a call, the Pandit bus is in Iowa City. We had an hour. So we all just kept doing what we were doing only it felt more intense. One could feel one's awareness and settledness being challenged by the pace and intensity of activity. Outside, the paint was being scraped off the outside of the windows by men on ladders, and people were stringing 4-5 rows of holiday lights all
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No mood makers here!!! Not having trunks like elephants, however, I wonder what the guys are using to hold their magic feathers... :-) - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was more time. I was wondering, how is this going to all get finished? Then at about 11, someone received a call, the Pandit bus is in Iowa City. We had an hour. So we all just kept doing what we were doing only it
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several people presented on the page. http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=Spiritual_Peacemaking_Formamp ;t_s=44 So... In 1980, he took a special class from the Shankaracharya of the North and learned how to charm animals... Ummm Anyone ever hear this one before? Was this something he left out of Return of the Rishi? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
It is rather sad. But I guess whatever it takes to raise money is deemed acceptable. On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:33 AM, llundrub wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was more time. I was wondering, how is this going to all get finished? Then at about 11, someone received a call, the Pandit bus is in Iowa City. We had an hour. So we all just kept doing what we were doing only it felt more intense. One could feel one's awareness and settledness being challenged by the pace and intensity of activity. Outside, the paint was being scraped off the outside of the windows by men on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. One thing that might help is to rent a copy of Tibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film The Cup. The actors in his film are all monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. They give one a more real view of the *humanness* that exists in real monks, and of the things they really think about on a daily basis. This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It's really a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing the mindset of the East. The basic plot revolves around some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery who are scheming to find some way to rent a TV and a satellite dish so that they can watch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's first film. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famous teacher from the past. I met him briefly in Santa Fe when he was there on a fundraising tour, and have rarely been so impressed. The room was full of rich potential donors, all clammoring for his attention, to get him to focus on them and give them some strokes in return for the money they were going to contribute to the film. His *equan- imity* in the face of this was what was impressive. He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention, whether they were one of the richest people in the world (one of whom was there), or a young kid working his third job serving tea. Neat to see. But why? Equanimity is a description of the innermost reaction to someone, NOT some outward behavior. To behave exactly the same way towards everyone sounds contrived, not spiritual. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several people presented on the page. http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx?content=Spiritual_Peacemaking_Formamp ;t_s=44 So... In 1980, he took a special class from the Shankaracharya of the North and learned how to charm animals... Ummm Anyone ever hear this one before? Was this something he left out of Return of the Rishi? Can you give a direct quote or a time in the recording so we don't have to listen to the whole thing? I wonder if it works on Jack Russell Terriers? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub llundrub@ wrote: No mood makers here!!! Not having trunks like elephants, however, I wonder what the guys are using to hold their magic feathers... :-) Oops. Another little goof here, if Barry's referring to the pundits, since there's no indication in this report of any moodmaking from them. Except perhaps this, which I thought was kind of amusing: Many of the Pandits started chanting the `Swasti' chant for Health and walking downstairs into the frat Were they perhaps concerned about the quality of the sanitation in their new dwellings? But then we have this-- while everyone was saying Jai Guru Dev with palms met. Other than the chanting, the Pandits were very quiet and subdued, very simple. --which I read as the pundits doing their best to ignore the frenzy of moodmaking surrounding them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Thanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Dr Morris: `Maharishi, how do the Vedic performances of Vedic Pandits work to secure the integrationyou mentioned the word integrationof national consciousness as the basis for making a nation invincible? How does the Vedic Pandits' programme work to create this effect?' Maharishi: `Because the Vedic words are the words of the transcendental field, being the structuring dynamics of the transcendental field, they are not limited to space and time. That means when one word is pronounced its effect is everywhere, everywhere. This has given the Vedic language the authority to produce the effect anywhere in space and time from one place in space and timeanywhere in the universe from anywhere in the universe. Dr. Morris: Uh, if the effect is everywhere, from anywhere, why was it so important to move the pundits to America? Wouldn't their chanting have been as effective in India? Maharishi: Yes, but their value in fundraising would not have been. Where are your *priorities*, Bevan? No soup for you. The importance of moving the pandits/pundits to the US is their consciousness is now on the US. Its a subtle thing and has a direct effect on the celestial attention on the US also. Should help with fundraising too, only because the TMO will now be more effective.;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Several people presented on the page. http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx? content=Spiritual_Peacemaking_Formamp ;t_s=44 So... In 1980, he took a special class from the Shankaracharya of the North and learned how to charm animals... Ummm Anyone ever hear this one before? Was this something he left out of Return of the Rishi? Can you give a direct quote or a time in the recording so we don't have to listen to the whole thing? I wonder if it works on Jack Russell Terriers? Almost the first words out of his mouth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. My sister, who recently moved to Vermont, has some old apple trees on her property that haven't been cared for and look pretty miserable. But she discovered a couple of small, misshapen, but nice red apples on one of them, picked one, and ate it. She says it was fantastic, vastly better than any of the commercial apples she's had in years. Yep- There is no comparison at all. Oddly enough I find the apples from my tree stay firm and ripen slowly, and they are organic. Perhaps the trees sprayed with pesticides and stuff produce a different kind of apple? Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted
Pundit?
Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis?
Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length)
Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length)
Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee)
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of,
but I'm almost certain that a few people who
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce)
would feel obligated to try to their utmost
to make it so and come to think of it,
Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much
the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this
somehow indicate that it is my fault?
And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook
up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits
chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops
in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this
whole pundit thing is working.
Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the
same way.
And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally
recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct
disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??
As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed
influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the
world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?
But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US
Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. This is the point where someone is supposed to come running in to agree with the indisputable logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in suggesting that he was. There is a fine line between feeling personally threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours and believing that those who hold those opinions are actually capable of plotting against you or the organization you identify with overmuch. It would seem that at least one person here has crossed that line. Time will tell whether there are two of them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. May the best man win. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi: `Because the Vedic words are the words of the transcendental field, being the structuring dynamics of the transcendental field, they are not limited to space and time. That means when one word is pronounced its effect is everywhere, everywhere. This has given the Vedic language the authority to produce the effect anywhere in space and time from one place in space and timeanywhere in the universe from anywhere in the universe. Dr. Morris: Uh, if the effect is everywhere, from anywhere, why was it so important to move the pundits to America? Wouldn't their chanting have been as effective in India? Maharishi: Yes, but their value in fundraising would not have been. Where are your *priorities*, Bevan? No soup for you. The importance of moving the pandits/pundits to the US is their consciousness is now on the US. Its a subtle thing and has a direct effect on the celestial attention on the US also. Should help with fundraising too, only because the TMO will now be more effective.;-) Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Thanks, I'll tell her. The impression I got from her, though, is that the trees have been so neglected that they're only producing a single apple here and there. She's going to try to bring them back, but I'd imagine that would take at least a few years, no? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Thanks, I'll tell her. The impression I got from her, though, is that the trees have been so neglected that they're only producing a single apple here and there. She's going to try to bring them back, but I'd imagine that would take at least a few years, no? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2 or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any source and the people? Any more detail? More of why the upper- middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF? They all know each other and their stories. As much as the DesMoines Register article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of the ME, what was also missing was this back story, 'The rest of the story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of the TMorg. Hartnett Family? Who else living down there on 'Heavenly Mountain' have the resources for giving 2 or 3 million to the Movement? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. This is the point where someone is supposed to come running in to agree with the indisputable logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in suggesting that he was. I haven't crossed any line. There is a fine line between feeling personally threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours and believing that those who hold those opinions are actually capable of plotting against you or the organization you identify with overmuch. It would seem that at least one person here has crossed that line. Time will tell whether there are two of them. Which opinions am I threatened by? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he needed to. He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud, so why would he bother? Better to stand aside and just let the whole thing flop. The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish anything to sabotage the pundit project, other than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
sparaig spare egg / Lawson English wrote: judy stein wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: spare egg wrote: Jason Spock wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. Namaste Sir LawsonJi In my very humble opinion i must politely inquire- or are you off your meds?? Besides being clinically diagnosed as suffering from OCD, did the doctors evaluate you for- paranoia delusional behavior? ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. Firstly Sir Lawson Ji-- these 114 gentlemen from India that came to Fairfield dressed in white kurta/dhoti pajamas are *legimate* pundits because Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma told you so!! Now, Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma has also claimed that-, these pundits can (simply by chanting Vedic verses)influence the course of human events from anywhere to anywhere. Why come here to America? As Barry has just pointed out. And, you convienently ignored. Now this is the same Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma that paraded Swami Shantinand (when he was alive) around in view of sincere gullible westerners, claiming that Shantinand was somehow a legitmate Shankracharya that endorsed tm. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. And, as the *ONLY* legimate lawful Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt.., Sri SwaroopanandJi has pointed out that-- Lil Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma has a history of using alledged shankaracharyas to dupe gullible westerners. Now Sir LawsonJi.., i say you are being duped once again. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, As i have better things to do with my time.., i would just like to point out at 'google news' at this moment now in the business section -- Washington Post Goodyear to close Texas plant Crain's Cleveland Business - 36 minutes ago Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. will close its tire manufacturing plant in Tyler, Texas, as part of an announced plan to exit certain segments of its private label tire business. Goodyear to Close Texas Plant, Cut Jobs CBS News Goodyear to Close Texas Plant, Cut Jobs Washington Post Toronto Star all 148 news articles » Washington Post Dow, Nasdaq Slide in Midmorning Trading Houston Chronicle - 45 minutes ago By TIM PARADIS AP Business Writer. © 2006 AP. NEW YORK - Stocks fell Monday as investors tried to assess the health of the economy following a lackluster sales report from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. if at all possible. Sir LawsonJi.., how is the weather on your planet?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
I remember 1979. It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history. 60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? - Original Message From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:28:23 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits ArriveThanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. This is the point where someone is supposed to come running in to agree with the indisputable logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in suggesting that he was. I haven't crossed any line. Reread your second paragraph above. Do you not feel that you not being surprised to learn that they are working diligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible is a little over the line I specified below? There is a fine line between feeling personally threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours and believing that those who hold those opinions are actually capable of plotting against you or the organization you identify with overmuch. It would seem that at least one person here has crossed that line. Time will tell whether there are two of them. You wouldn't be surprised to find them plotting against MMY, did I get that right? Doesn't that kinda equate to you believing them *capable* of plotting against him? I don't believe them capable of such a thing. I would imagine that Swaroopanand has better things to do with his time, and although it doesn't seem that Coldbluiceman does :-), I've never gotten the feeling that he'd go out of his way to sabotage any of Maharishi's projects. Who, after all, would need to? The majority of them are self-sabotaging. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
judy stein wrote: sparaig wrote: judy stein wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: sparaig wrote: Jason Spock wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Namaste Ms. Judy.., i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking! As he admits himself. So much for your process of thinking. Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in the way, And, in line with your questionable thought processes.., please tell us one way inwhich Sri SwaroopanandJi-, *might* be in a position to get in the way.. You sound almost as paranoid as poor Lawson. but I'm not sure why he'd think he needed to. He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud, Along with nearly everyone on this earth. so why would he bother? Better to stand aside and just let the whole thing flop. Now that is truly a very negative attitude. The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish anything to sabotage the pundit project, other than thinking evil thoughts Who is thinking evil thoughts?..you just pointed out above this whole pundit thing is doomed to failure. and making absurd posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face. Not nearly as absurb as your assessment of Lawson's jokes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: judy stein wrote: sparaig wrote: judy stein wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: sparaig wrote: Jason Spock wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Namaste Ms. Judy.., i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking! As he admits himself. Yes, you see, in the post you're responding to, I was replying to Lawson's post saying he was not joking. So you aren't pointing out anything to me, politely or otherwise, I'm afraid. This sort of brainlessness on your part is why I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to suggest you were capable of participating in a conspiracy to corrupt the pundits. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi: `Because the Vedic words are the words of the transcendental field, being the structuring dynamics of the transcendental field, they are not limited to space and time. That means when one word is pronounced its effect is everywhere, everywhere. This has given the Vedic language the authority to produce the effect anywhere in space and time from one place in space and timeanywhere in the universe from anywhere in the universe. Dr. Morris: Uh, if the effect is everywhere, from anywhere, why was it so important to move the pundits to America? Wouldn't their chanting have been as effective in India? Maharishi: Yes, but their value in fundraising would not have been. Where are your *priorities*, Bevan? No soup for you. The importance of moving the pandits/pundits to the US is their consciousness is now on the US. Its a subtle thing and has a direct effect on the celestial attention on the US also. Should help with fundraising too, only because the TMO will now be more effective.;-) Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? Good question- I went back and read all of bob's posting regarding Maharishi's talk about the Yagyas performed by the pundits. It doesn't specifically address the physical placement of the pundits relative to the object of focus of the Yagya, while they are performing the Yagya, though it is clear about the effects of the Yagya transcending time and space. So based on what I know today, I am comfortable with the conclusion I reached earlier regarding the pundits' attention (I said consciousness earler, but I think 'attention' is a better word for what I am trying to say) being on the US. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did not understand what the word meant. I have always thought of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not reborn. I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like moving from one house to the other. snip excellent story Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not just describing what happens when you actually die. The same process applies to the continual death and rebirth of the self during a single incarnation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? Good question- I went back and read all of bob's posting regarding Maharishi's talk about the Yagyas performed by the pundits. It doesn't specifically address the physical placement of the pundits relative to the object of focus of the Yagya, while they are performing the Yagya, though it is clear about the effects of the Yagya transcending time and space. So based on what I know today, I am comfortable with the conclusion I reached earlier regarding the pundits' attention (I said consciousness earler, but I think 'attention' is a better word for what I am trying to say) being on the US. I wasn't trying to change your mind. I think that attention is probably more of a factor in the effect (if there is one) than the verses being chanted or the ceremony being performed, personally. I was just curious whether you'd noticed that your theory was not in agreement with what Maharishi actually said. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember 1979. It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history. 60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? Hi Louis, I remember the winter of 1979-80 in Fairfield also, because we sent a crew from the Kansas City Capital Project in Missouri to Fairfield to complete the Dome, and the weather warmed up remarkably so the Dome could be finished. It wasn't Maharishi controlling the weather. It was the higher forces of nature being successful. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
I like the report. By the way, a tall glass of almond milk helps the crow go down smoothly. Delicious meal! I couldn't feel happier eating it! --- llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was more time. I was wondering, how is this going to all get finished? Then at about 11, someone received a call, the Pandit bus is in Iowa City. We had an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? Good question- I went back and read all of bob's posting regarding Maharishi's talk about the Yagyas performed by the pundits. It doesn't specifically address the physical placement of the pundits relative to the object of focus of the Yagya, while they are performing the Yagya, though it is clear about the effects of the Yagya transcending time and space. So based on what I know today, I am comfortable with the conclusion I reached earlier regarding the pundits' attention (I said consciousness earler, but I think 'attention' is a better word for what I am trying to say) being on the US. I wasn't trying to change your mind. Yep. I think that attention is probably more of a factor in the effect (if there is one) than the verses being chanted or the ceremony being performed, personally. Its surprising what the effects are. I was just curious whether you'd noticed that your theory was not in agreement with what Maharishi actually said. Yeah- that's why I went back and read the full excerpt. No contradiction as far as I can tell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ottumwa Courier - Fairfield a is a 'Great Place'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CREATIVE SPONTANEOUS ERUPTIONS From the Ottumwa Courier Saturday October 28th: DuBois said community projects like the new radio station KRUU-FM was a perfect example of taking an idea that wasn't on anyone's radar six months ago, but only a gleam in someone's eye and making it a sudden operating reality. Calling them creative, spontaneous eruptions, Dubois said efforts like KRUU radio showed the commission that the entrepreneurial vitality of the community was real and viable, and this community is fertile ground for these eruptions to occur at anytime. The commission really liked the radio station and we talked about it in terms of it being a real opportunity to engage the youth of our community, he said. KRUU is incredible, amazing music of all genres and real non mainstream news. As you flip through the fairfield radio dial you used to have the choice of corporate oldies, corporate country, praise the lord sermons, and Bevan/Hagelin fundraising on KHOE ... and now something really exciting like KRUU. During one drive through town last week I heard Bjork, Lennon, elvis costello, and johnny cash all in one music mix. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. His claim poses some interesting time line issues. Is he describing his experience with MMY on a sidhi course? He mixes up a few different techniques in his description, some virtues sutras, some A of E technique, which he sold to me right in his doctor's office in Stonham Mass for $700 in around '87, and some other forgiveness techniques common in new age seminars. Could any of this be true? Was he with MMY in 80? His magic bird attraction story also has problems for me. Holding out food to tame birds makes them come to you for the food. Without the food he would have an unusual story. With the food you've got nothing. He shifted the story to make it sound like magic at first. He claims that after the three week course with the Shankaracharya , he would see a bird on a tree and have the intention for it to come to him and it would. Later he mentions using grain or nuts to feed the birds. I'm guessing he fed some parrots nuts, most birds can't eat them, and some pigeons grain, most birds don't want grain but pigeons love millet. Or just made the whole nonsense up start to finish. Wanna know a surefire way to tell if Chopra is lying? Watch his lips, if they are moving, bingo! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Several people presented on the page. http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx? content=Spiritual_Peacemaking_Formamp ;t_s=44 So... In 1980, he took a special class from the Shankaracharya of the North and learned how to charm animals... Ummm Anyone ever hear this one before? Was this something he left out of Return of the Rishi? Can you give a direct quote or a time in the recording so we don't have to listen to the whole thing? I wonder if it works on Jack Russell Terriers? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
To me this is great news and very exciting. If I had the time I would geton the first flight to the US and go on the course. Jai Guru Dev. I think it is great that finally this idea of pundits being 24 hours doing program and chanting is very positive and very needed by the world. at this time. No matter what the ney sayers say, I feel that Maharishi's efforst have changed the world. Therefore I am hopeful that this too will have it effects beginning twith this course. - Original Message From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:58:45 PMSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity It is rather sad. But I guess whatever it takes to raise money isdeemed acceptable.On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:33 AM, llundrub wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. Second favorite line: Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper! I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish, it's crpp!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the report. By the way, a tall glass of almond milk helps the crow go down smoothly. Delicious meal! I couldn't feel happier eating it! --- llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. Yeah, that was great!! I wonder if he had a little white riding crop with him to fend off the masses? Shoo! Shoo! Second favorite line: Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper! Lol! Good catch! I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish, it's crpp!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I like the report. By the way, a tall glass of almond milk helps the crow go down smoothly. Delicious meal! I couldn't feel happier eating it! --- llundrub llundrub@ wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend jstein@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only showed up to check everything out. One gets the feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and dirty with the construction work. The caste system is alive and well in Fairfield. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only showed up to check everything out. One gets the feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and dirty with the construction work. The caste system is alive and well in Fairfield. I prefer to think of it as the emperor has no clothes... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
I believe Chopra hooked up with MMY in 1985 or '86. Certainly not before that. He was working at a Mormon hospital in the Boston area before he got invloved with the TMO. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. His claim poses some interesting time line issues. Is he describing his experience with MMY on a sidhi course? He mixes up a few different techniques in his description, some virtues sutras, some A of E technique, which he sold to me right in his doctor's office in Stonham Mass for $700 in around '87, and some other forgiveness techniques common in new age seminars. Could any of this be true? Was he with MMY in 80? His magic bird attraction story also has problems for me. Holding out food to tame birds makes them come to you for the food. Without the food he would have an unusual story. With the food you've got nothing. He shifted the story to make it sound like magic at first. He claims that after the three week course with the Shankaracharya , he would see a bird on a tree and have the intention for it to come to him and it would. Later he mentions using grain or nuts to feed the birds. I'm guessing he fed some parrots nuts, most birds can't eat them, and some pigeons grain, most birds don't want grain but pigeons love millet. Or just made the whole nonsense up start to finish. Wanna know a surefire way to tell if Chopra is lying? Watch his lips, if they are moving, bingo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Toni and Martin discuss MMY, $, etc
Boo!While googling I stumbled upon this link:http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=1444postdays=0postorder=ascstart=15sid=84f309e11603fbae4edd9e0cecbf1933 It's a conversation from 2005 between 2 TMers, Toni (managed The Crest Jewel for awhile but I don't remember her) and Martin. I haven't looked through the rest of the forum. Haven't seen it mentioned here on FFL so I thought it might be of interest. Cheers,Vashti __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe Chopra hooked up with MMY in 1985 or '86. Certainly not before that. He was working at a Mormon hospital in the Boston area before he got invloved with the TMO. So he was practicing a technique like the sidhis before he met MMY? See my timeline problem with his story? He was selling MMY's Chopra technique by '87. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. His claim poses some interesting time line issues. Is he describing his experience with MMY on a sidhi course? He mixes up a few different techniques in his description, some virtues sutras, some A of E technique, which he sold to me right in his doctor's office in Stonham Mass for $700 in around '87, and some other forgiveness techniques common in new age seminars. Could any of this be true? Was he with MMY in 80? His magic bird attraction story also has problems for me. Holding out food to tame birds makes them come to you for the food. Without the food he would have an unusual story. With the food you've got nothing. He shifted the story to make it sound like magic at first. He claims that after the three week course with the Shankaracharya , he would see a bird on a tree and have the intention for it to come to him and it would. Later he mentions using grain or nuts to feed the birds. I'm guessing he fed some parrots nuts, most birds can't eat them, and some pigeons grain, most birds don't want grain but pigeons love millet. Or just made the whole nonsense up start to finish. Wanna know a surefire way to tell if Chopra is lying? Watch his lips, if they are moving, bingo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. My sister, who recently moved to Vermont, has some old apple trees on her property that haven't been cared for and look pretty miserable. But she discovered a couple of small, misshapen, but nice red apples on one of them, picked one, and ate it. She says it was fantastic, vastly better than any of the commercial apples she's had in years. Yep- There is no comparison at all. Oddly enough I find the apples from my tree stay firm and ripen slowly, and they are organic. Perhaps the trees sprayed with pesticides and stuff produce a different kind of apple? Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Which *is* a lot of work and probably fine for someone who has no hobbies or other interests. I didn't get many apples this year due to the weird spring weather which messed up a lot of crops in the area. Commercial growers use a spray that thins and indeed apples as well as strawberries are one of the most heavily sprayed fruits. Keeping the worms out of them is indeed another challenge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
On Oct 30, 2006, at 12:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. That just sounds so ODD. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only showed up to check everything out. One gets the feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and dirty with the construction work. Of course, not! That would be undignified. My bro, the Raja of Denver, can't even take his kids to the MUM pool because it would be like hanging out with commoners or some such. Technically, he's not even supposed to drive; he's supposed to be chauffeured around. Rajas have a whole 'nuther set of rules and regulations to follow. Thankfully, being the mere brother of a Raja doesn't impact my life at all, except that people now ask me what it's like to be the brother of a Raja. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Toni and Martin discuss MMY, $, etc
Yes, it gives a nice, REAL history of the TMSP.On Oct 30, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Vashti wrote:Boo!While googling I stumbled upon this link:http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=1444postdays=0postorder=ascstart=15sid=84f309e11603fbae4edd9e0cecbf1933 It's a conversation from 2005 between 2 TMers, "Toni" (managed The Crest Jewel for awhile but I don't remember her) and "Martin". I haven't looked through the rest of the forum. Haven't seen it mentioned here on FFL so I thought it might be of interest. Cheers,Vashti __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
Rick Archer wrote: Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the Spiritual Capital in N. Carolina donated $2 or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened to it, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement. Namaste Sri Rick Ji.., Well all there needs to be done to help corroborate the veracity of your friend's story is to investigate the facts surrounding the history of the- Indian TMO. Just start with the very beginning of the Indian TMO.., Everything that happened some fifty three years ago with regards death of Sri Vibhuushiit Jyosimutt Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati the indian tmo had a hand in.. Starting with and including Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma and his uncle- Raj Varma. It was Raj Varma whom took it upon himself to re-write the history surrounding the death of Sri Swami BrahmanandJi in his book- 'Strange Facts about a Great Saint' re-printed by Varma Sons, 1980. The spurious claims made then that- an authentic will of Sri BrahmanandJi that was deposited with the Registars Office in Allhallabad on December 18, 1952 was never true! As court documents and undisputed evidence clearly shows.. reference page 792 ..Before his death, he executed a will which was published on June 8, 1953. By the will, he nominated a panel of 4 persons in-order of choice indicated in the will to succeed him as head of the Math... http://www.austlii.edu.au/~andrew/CommonLII/INSC/1974/153.html Then later the indian tmo claimed this- ..As an aside, a few relatively unknown, early Indian publications of the Transcendental Meditation movement claim the Sankaracharya title for Mahesh Yogi himself, but this is not to be taken seriously... http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/position/shank-jyot-ascii.html After this attempt of claiming the title of shankaracharya by the indian tmo failed, it was followed by a charade that went on for years-- of the indian tmo and brahmachari Mahesh parading Swami Shantinand around as shankaracharya of the north from June 1953 until Shantinand finally quit calling himself shankaracharya in 1980. From the Kropinski interview of Oct. 1986 with the only lawfully recognized Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt. ..He said, word came to me that he (Shantinand) had requested to be allowed on the stage. I allowed him to be present only because he has given up this nonsense of claiming title to Shankaracharya... http://minet.org/Documents/shank-1 The indian tmo was even present at the celebration held by Sri SwaroopanandJi that Bob Kropinsky attended.. ..Shankaracharya then warned me that Mahesh now knows you are here in Vrindaban with me. He has sent Nadikishor and his spies here with others to watch you, you must be very careful. He placed a guard outside of my bedroom door at night and had someone travel with me at all times. Much to my amazement, I discovered that, in fact, I was being followed... http://minet.org/Documents/shank-1 Then during the 1990s there was failed a political party-Ajay Bharat in the Indian province of Madhya Pradesh (city of Jalapur birthplace of brahmachari Mahesh) that was backed with tmo funds, and named after one of brahmachari Mahesh's newphew- Ajay Shristava. This now defunct political party was known to engaged in voter fraud in attempts to influnce elections.. please see my post at Alt.Meditation.Transcendental as i wrote about this very subject some 4 years ago... The Trail of Money and Deception From: ColdBluICE - view profile Date: Mon, Jul 29 2002 9:30 pm http://tinyurl.com/twfr9 More news articles on the ABP (Ajay Bharat Party) of Madhya Pradesh.. Yogi casts a shadow Of all people, Mahesh Yogi was a bizarre shadow over the brainstorming camp here. The Yogi, with more money than he can count, apparently has an ardent follower in former state education minister and Congress MLA till a day ago, Mukesh Nayak. Nayak, once an aide of Ajit Jogi, was seen as a potential star in the MP Congress but fell foul with powers that be. It was then that Yogi moved in. Apparently, he told Nayak that his party, Ajeya Bharat, would field many candidates in the coming Assembly polls and with things in a balance between the Congress and the BJP, Yogi feels, Ajeya Bharat could throw a lot of spanners in the wheel. So, Nayak was given a fleet of cars and plenty of cash as incentive to quit the Congress and spearhead Yogi's party. No amount of pleas from the Congress high command worked and Nayak timed his resignation in time for the Pachmarhi camp. http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/19980907/25050904.html The indian tmo appears to be composed of members of at least two families- 'Shristava' and 'Varma'..or just one big happy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. My sister, who recently moved to Vermont, has some old apple trees on her property that haven't been cared for and look pretty miserable. But she discovered a couple of small, misshapen, but nice red apples on one of them, picked one, and ate it. She says it was fantastic, vastly better than any of the commercial apples she's had in years. Yep- There is no comparison at all. Oddly enough I find the apples from my tree stay firm and ripen slowly, and they are organic. Perhaps the trees sprayed with pesticides and stuff produce a different kind of apple? Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Which *is* a lot of work and probably fine for someone who has no hobbies or other interests. lol! I think it took me a grand *total* of 45 minutes the three times I did it...I should've mentioned my tree is about 8 feet wide and 10 feet high. I didn't get many apples this year due to the weird spring weather which messed up a lot of crops in the area. Commercial growers use a spray that thins and indeed apples as well as strawberries are one of the most heavily sprayed fruits. Keeping the worms out of them is indeed another challenge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only showed up to check everything out. One gets the feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and dirty with the construction work. Of course, not! That would be undignified. My bro, the Raja of Denver, can't even take his kids to the MUM pool because it would be like hanging out with commoners or some such. Technically, he's not even supposed to drive; he's supposed to be chauffeured around. Rajas have a whole 'nuther set of rules and regulations to follow. Thankfully, being the mere brother of a Raja doesn't impact my life at all, except that people now ask me what it's like to be the brother of a Raja. How incredibly strange that a Raja can't behave naturally. Does Tom take this stuff seriously? Are there consequences if he doesn't behave in a Raja-like manner? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
judy stein wrote: coldbluiceman wrote: judy stein wrote: sparaig wrote: judy stein wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: sparaig wrote: Jason Spock wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Namaste Ms. Judy.., i must politley point out-- poor Lawson was not joking! As he admits himself. Yes, you see, in the post you're responding to, I was replying to Lawson's post saying he was not joking. Namaste Ms. Judy, i must politley take exception your statement. Now you claim Lawson was not joking! When in your previous post you said-, Lawson was making, you know, a joke. So you aren't pointing out anything to me, politely or otherwise, I'm afraid. Nothing other than you can't seem to function coherently. i really sincerely feel compassion for your poor afflicted emotional mind. This sort of brainlessness on your part is why I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to suggest you were capable of participating in a conspiracy to corrupt the pundits. Ms. Judy.., most politley you are just plain Looney Tunes! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
Louis. Sweetheart. Are you on any prescription drugs? If so, how long have you been on them? In the interests of full disclosure, be a dear and list them here, please. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember 1979. It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history. 60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? - Original Message From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:28:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Thanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct. I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteUh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember 1979. It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history. 60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? Yes, all of the above. - Original Message From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:28:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Thanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct. I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquetteUh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct. I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Several people presented on the page. http://www.emissaryoflight.com/_.aspx? content=Spiritual_Peacemaking_Formamp ;t_s=44 So... In 1980, he took a special class from the Shankaracharya of the North and learned how to charm animals... Ummm Anyone ever hear this one before? Was this something he left out of Return of the Rishi? Can you give a direct quote or a time in the recording so we don't have to listen to the whole thing? I wonder if it works on Jack Russell Terriers? I was wondering if it works on Filet Mignon. Actually, can anyone tell me how long the tape is? I started to listen but gave up after 5 minutes 'cause I was worried it was about 2 hours or something and just wanted to get to the juicy parts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
I was just Joking about Bhairitu's Conspiracies. Authfriend is correct. I am sure, Sir ShempMcGurk would agree with me. No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration.authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:20:44 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism,and Lawson was making, you know, a joke.TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:56:31 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a "Seduce A Pundit" stand within sight of the frat windows,where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged tosunbathe nude and fondle themselves.Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn tokeep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves.One thing that might help is to rent a copy ofTibetan/Bhutanese filmmaker Khyentse Norbu's film "The Cup." The "actors" in his film areall monks in Norbu's monastery in Bhutan. Theygive one a more real view of the *humanness*that exists in real monks, and of the thingsthey really think about on a daily basis.This is a recommendation for everyone, BTW. It'sreally a *wonderful* film, up there with the work of Satyajit Ray in terms of capturing themindset of the East. The basic plot revolvesaround some young monks in a Tibetan Buddhistmonastery who are scheming to find some way torent a TV and a satellite dish so that they canwatch the soccer World Cup. It's utterly delightful, a masterful work of direction, and Norbu's firstfilm. Norbu himself is not only a Tibetan monk, he's a tulku, or recognized incarnation of a famousteacher from the past. I met him briefly in SantaFe when he was there on a fundraising tour, andhave rarely been so impressed. The room was fullof rich potential donors, all clammoring for hisattention, to get him to focus on them and givethem some "strokes" in return for the money theywere going to contribute to the film. His *equan-imity* in the face of this was what was impressive.He gave everyone *exactly* the same attention,whether they were one of the richest people inthe world (one of whom was there), or a young kidworking his third job serving tea. Neat to see. Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
Hmmm.. I don't know what he was doing (besides practicing medicine) prior to joining MMY. Sounds though, like he is either lying or has his timeline messed up/confused. I met him before he got too involved with the TMO and he was a very honest, ethical person back then. But the TMO has been known to corrupt a person or two. ;-) (P.S. I got a technique in his Stoneham office back in '86 or '87, too. I cannot for the life of me remember what it was, though. Oh the wonders of the aging brain.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote: I believe Chopra hooked up with MMY in 1985 or '86. Certainly not before that. He was working at a Mormon hospital in the Boston area before he got invloved with the TMO. So he was practicing a technique like the sidhis before he met MMY? See my timeline problem with his story? He was selling MMY's Chopra technique by '87. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. His claim poses some interesting time line issues. Is he describing his experience with MMY on a sidhi course? He mixes up a few different techniques in his description, some virtues sutras, some A of E technique, which he sold to me right in his doctor's office in Stonham Mass for $700 in around '87, and some other forgiveness techniques common in new age seminars. Could any of this be true? Was he with MMY in 80? His magic bird attraction story also has problems for me. Holding out food to tame birds makes them come to you for the food. Without the food he would have an unusual story. With the food you've got nothing. He shifted the story to make it sound like magic at first. He claims that after the three week course with the Shankaracharya , he would see a bird on a tree and have the intention for it to come to him and it would. Later he mentions using grain or nuts to feed the birds. I'm guessing he fed some parrots nuts, most birds can't eat them, and some pigeons grain, most birds don't want grain but pigeons love millet. Or just made the whole nonsense up start to finish. Wanna know a surefire way to tell if Chopra is lying? Watch his lips, if they are moving, bingo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2006, at 12:25 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. That just sounds so ODD. I am wondering if he just got confused about the years? I am not making excuses for him, but I know how I have to stop and think, OK, in '84 I graduated from MUM. Now did I move to DC in'85, or was that '86? And what year did I work as a Ayurvdic tech in FF - was that 86 or 87? And when did I pursue my graduate degree -- '89 or 90? I really have to stop and think it through. The Deepak I knew 20+ years ago was not a liar by any stretch of the imagination. But, who knows, maybe it's a combination of forgetfulness/confusion, or his ego has gotten in the way and he is embellishing his memories a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted
Pundit?
Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis?
Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length)
Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length)
Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee)
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of,
but I'm almost certain that a few people who
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce)
would feel obligated to try to their utmost
to make it so and come to think of it,
Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
Why make so much noise about their non-existance over the years if you didn't
care?
So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much
the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this
somehow indicate that it is my fault?
Er, no. And I'm under the impression that the pundits' stay is indefinite.
Certainly a year or
more (since that is the amount of time that Settle pledged to pay for yogic
flyers and
money has already been pledged specifically for pundits to stay indefinitely
and the TMO
is collecting those pledges right now).
And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
Hardly.
How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
Not a clue. That is up to you.
The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook
up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
Does anyone reading this doubt that you fervently HOPE that this is the case,
regardless of
any action you choose to take in the future?
As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits
chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
Really? What purpose are these group chants for, according to Indian tradition?
Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops
in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this
whole pundit thing is working.
Heh. They arrived yesterday. And in fact, the claim for the course pre-pundits,
is that the
yogic flyers' numbers are sufficient to affect the US of A internally, NOT
events on the
other side of the world, save as those events reflect decisions made here in
the USA. I
don't think that this claim has changed radically with the arrival of the
pundits, regardless
of what chants they do.
Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the
same way.
And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally
recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct
disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??
Not I said probably.
As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed
influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the
world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?
Because of the synergistic effect. LIght travels indefinitely, but the only
practical way to
create a reinforcing constructive interfence effect is at its source.
But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US
Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.
Certainly, I hope that the pundits have an effect on the US elections and that
the effect is
positive. Given my political beliefs, I would say that the Dems taking back
both houses, at
least for the next few election cycles, would be a positive thing. I am not
sure that their
regaining control of the White House as well as both Houses of Congress would
be a
positive thing in the long run, but given the situation with the Supreme
Court's new
makeup, who can say for sure?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity
It's not sad, per se. Since it's Einar writing! Actually it gives me faith and makes me happy that there is a spot for him in this world too. What a grand place that all humans may dream and be what they wish to be, including messiahs. - Original Message - From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity It is rather sad. But I guess whatever it takes to raise money is deemed acceptable. On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:33 AM, llundrub wrote: No mood makers here!!! - Original Message - From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Celestial Unity From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Dear Friends, Maharishi's daily call to the Invincible America Course began as usual with Dr. Bevan asking for experiences, and Maharishi said yes, yes. He is quietly keen on hearing the experiences called number one experiences. Number one experiences were originally defined as infinite wholeness transforming into emptiness, or emptiness transforming into infinite wholeness, or one within the other. Number one also means that this is the predominant experience in programs. Almost all experiences of Unity expressed also have a quality of light, celestial, divine, integrated with or shining forth from or leading to the unified value. This morning, Maharishi didn't comment on the experiences. Every day it is more powerful to hear them and hearing them is part of the technology of invincibility. Maharishi is cosmic creativity, one wonders, what is he going to say today? Today, he and we just simply listened to experience after experience of higher states of consciousness within the practice of the TM-Sidhi program. After Dr. Bevan started with experiences, he paused briefly to summarize that Maharishi Pandits had arrived last night. One Mother Divine gave a very enthralling series of rich experiences that obviously represented many long hours of many years cultivating the inner life in a very mature way. This is what this life develops into. Wow. One young man, about college age, was speaking in almost a different language. It sounded like what could be the English of 50- 250 years from now. Somewhat of a different level of the human life form. I was wondering, what is Maharishi going to say about this? It was the only one of the 7-8 experiences Maharishi commented on this morning, saying something like, more experiences like this. Hearing these experiences is not like coming out of program for a call, it's like staying in program for a call and just doing another part of program, a new technique. These experiences are striking in their depth, in their common unified value, and in the great diversity of details and _expression. They are very personal and authentic experiences. Some are more simple and some more intricate in detail, but all are on the ground of real simplicity and integration. Dr. John's comments seem to keep becoming more and more eloquent and appreciative. As the Invincible America Course Director, he looks more than satisfied. After many of these experiences, Dr. Bevan paused on experiences for the day, in order to tell the story of the Pandits' arrival, enhanced with some still photos. The story was simple, coherent, beautiful and felt momentous. Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. When the music began, the custom officials walked out to greet Maharishi's Vedic Pandits and welcome them to America, as though the government was moved. After a dinner in a nearby Indian restaurant named SRI, the Pandits boarded their luxury bus and drove quietly through the evening to Iowa. Maharishi laughed when he heard early yesterday that 114 was so filled with people working, it was not possible to walk around. It was close to true. One would start walking from one location to another to do something, and on the way be subscripted to do something else for a while. After a number of jobs, one would remember the original job and return to it, often someone else had done it. There were so many people there was often a waiting line to go through the doors, and a continual gentle din of talking and machinery. As the day went on, the tasks became increasingly mop up, clean up and fine touches. Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. By about 10 pm, we heard the Pandits were not going to arrive til after 1 am, and there was a slight relaxation because there was
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Ottumwa Courier - Fairfield a is a 'Great Place'
On Oct 30, 2006, at 11:25 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: KRUU is incredible, amazing music of all genres and real non mainstream news. As you flip through the fairfield radio dial you used to have the choice of corporate oldies, corporate country, praise the lord sermons, and Bevan/Hagelin fundraising on KHOE ... and now something really exciting like KRUU. During one drive through town last week I heard Bjork, Lennon, elvis costello, and johnny cash all in one music mix. I agree, Mark, it's terrific--right now they're playing some excellent jazz. This is just one more thing thats going to make FF a great town to live in. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: I did not know about this. This I why I stopped eating apples. They're too firm and I can't buy ripe ones anywhere. They don't ripen at home, eiher, and leaving them out for a month in the hopes they will ripen attracts fruit flies. Yes, I have actually left them out that long. It sounds like this chemical works too well. My sister, who recently moved to Vermont, has some old apple trees on her property that haven't been cared for and look pretty miserable. But she discovered a couple of small, misshapen, but nice red apples on one of them, picked one, and ate it. She says it was fantastic, vastly better than any of the commercial apples she's had in years. Yep- There is no comparison at all. Oddly enough I find the apples from my tree stay firm and ripen slowly, and they are organic. Perhaps the trees sprayed with pesticides and stuff produce a different kind of apple? Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Which *is* a lot of work and probably fine for someone who has no hobbies or other interests. lol! I think it took me a grand *total* of 45 minutes the three times I did it...I should've mentioned my tree is about 8 feet wide and 10 feet high. That's about 40 minutes too long for me. :) Of course my apples are green apples and really only good for making pies. When I get a good crop I give them away to relatives. But they don't give me any pies back, damn! The neighbors across the street have a pear tree that goes to waste. And I have a lemon tree that is very prolific and lemons are too sour for me hence friends and relatives get big bags of them. I didn't get many apples this year due to the weird spring weather which messed up a lot of crops in the area. Commercial growers use a spray that thins and indeed apples as well as strawberries are one of the most heavily sprayed fruits. Keeping the worms out of them is indeed another challenge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Better living through chemistry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Judy, you may want to tell your sister that next year when all the little apples come out on the tree to thin them out, especially the clusters of two, three and four. Thin them down to one apple per branch site, and the apples will grow much larger. Thanks, I'll tell her. The impression I got from her, though, is that the trees have been so neglected that they're only producing a single apple here and there. She's going to try to bring them back, but I'd imagine that would take at least a few years, no? If a tree is too far gone, better to plant a new one. They have a finite life-span and it can be shortened by abuse/neglect. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi: `Because the Vedic words are the words of the transcendental field, being the structuring dynamics of the transcendental field, they are not limited to space and time. That means when one word is pronounced its effect is everywhere, everywhere. This has given the Vedic language the authority to produce the effect anywhere in space and time from one place in space and timeanywhere in the universe from anywhere in the universe. Dr. Morris: Uh, if the effect is everywhere, from anywhere, why was it so important to move the pundits to America? Wouldn't their chanting have been as effective in India? Maharishi: Yes, but their value in fundraising would not have been. Where are your *priorities*, Bevan? No soup for you. The importance of moving the pandits/pundits to the US is their consciousness is now on the US. Its a subtle thing and has a direct effect on the celestial attention on the US also. Should help with fundraising too, only because the TMO will now be more effective.;-) Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? A single photon of light can have an effect anywhere in the universe. The idea of the extended Maharishi Effect is that the meditation of the Yogic Flyers, and by extension, of the Vedic pundits, has a constructive interference effect that is the square of the number of participants. In other words, 1700 Yogic Flyers practicing together in the same vicinity and at the same time, reinforce each other's affect, and in a relatively small area, have 1.7 thousand times the effect on their local surroundings as would be expected from 1700 yogic flyers acting separately. The same phenomenon is found in any kind of wave, including light. The affect from the light is concentrated locally due to the constructive interference affect. According to ME theory, the effect from the group Yogic Flying should be sufficient to affect the rest of the USA IN A NOTICABLE WAY. That is the key: the effect is felt everywhere regardless of number or group or non-group, but only within the range of the constructive interference, will the effect be measureable. By extension, the action of a group of the Maharishi Vedic Pundits, being oh-so-much- more coherent than non-Maharishi-Vedic-Pundits (pandits?) should show a similar N- squared phenomenon: Their effect will be magnified in their local vicinity. 500 might not be enough to affect the entire USA, but apparently, they expect 2000 of them to arrive in Fairfield eventually, which by analogy to the Yogic Flyer's effect. would be enough to affect all of the USA. Even the 500 pundits, if the theory is even remotely correct, should have some noticable affect on a smaller region, especially on those participating in the Fairfield course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs
If you were very rich all of a sudden and you were going to make a donation to either SSRS or MMY which would you choose? - Original Message From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:09:05 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Another corroboration that the Indian TMO are a bunch of thugs --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Last night a friend told me that a wealthy couple (not either pair of Kaplans) living in or near the ³Spiritual Capital² in N. Carolina donated $2or 3 Million and later began to wonder what might have happened toit, so they went to India to investigate. After 6 months over there, they came back convinced that the Indian TMO was a mafia-like organization and that meddling with it could cost you your life. They have since distanced themselves from the movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any source and the people?Any more detail?More of why the upper-middleclass moved away in recent years from the TMO and FF?They all know each other and their stories.As much as the DesMoines Register article was neat, tidy and essentially persuasive in its promotion of the ME, what was also missing was this back story, 'The rest of the story' about spiritual integrity or the lack there of in the story of the TMorg. Hartnett Family?Who else living down there on 'Heavenly Mountain' have the resources for giving 2 or 3 million to the Movement?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he needed to. He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud, so why would he bother? Better to stand aside and just let the whole thing flop. The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish anything to sabotage the pundit project, other than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face. I never said that they would be effective. In Swaroopanand's case, he certainly could have (and almost certainly would have, had he been made aware) worked behind the scenes to sabatoge any attempts to bring the pundits here in the first place. In ColdBlueIce's case, like as not, he's on a Mission from God to help the pundits see the error of their ways-- afterall, he says that they have been corrupted from the moment they had contact with MMY and the TMO, so he would be doing them a tremendous favor by rescuing them from association with a hell-bound teacher (his terms). Think of the good karma that would result, in his eyes... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. This is the point where someone is supposed to come running in to agree with the indisputable logic of sparaig's thinking, and make the point that he *isn't* displaying some pretty paranoid thinking, and that Barry was off the wall in suggesting that he was. I haven't crossed any line. Reread your second paragraph above. Do you not feel that you not being surprised to learn that they are working diligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible is a little over the line I specified below? Nope. Swami Swaroopandana believes that MMY murdered his guru. Any action he can take to sabatoge such a person would be justified, even mandatory. ColdBLueIce believes that MMY is hell-bound, IIRC, and that the pundits are already corrupt by their association with MMY. Any action he could take would be to counter this corruption. There is a fine line between feeling personally threatened by opinions that are contrary to yours and believing that those who hold those opinions are actually capable of plotting against you or the organization you identify with overmuch. It would seem that at least one person here has crossed that line. Time will tell whether there are two of them. You wouldn't be surprised to find them plotting against MMY, did I get that right? Plotting? One need not plot to take action. If anyone in the Indian government asked the official Shankaracharya of the North what he thought of MMY and his activities with his pundits, how would he respond, do you think? Certainly, if any religious figure in India was to be consulted on the issue, it would be the legally-recognized Shankaracharya of the North, don't you agree? Doesn't that kinda equate to you believing them *capable* of plotting against him? In Swami Swarropananda's case, he might well have had influence on the decision-making. If any religious figure in India was in a position to have such influence, it would be him. In ColdBlueIce's case, he's made it clear that he wants MMY to fail in every way possible. What opportunity he could have to facilitate this failure, I don't know, but he has made it clear that he believes that he has had the effect of disuading many people from learning TM over the years due to his posting on the internet and that he is quite happy with this outcome. I don't believe them capable of such a thing. I would imagine that Swaroopanand has better things to do with his time, If Swami Swaroopananda were asked, in his capacity as Shankaracharya, what he thought of MMY's pundit project, what would be his response, do you think? and although it doesn't seem that Coldbluiceman does :-), I've never gotten the feeling that he'd go out of his way to sabotage any of Maharishi's projects. If I recall correctly, he credits himself with dissuading many people from learning TM due to his posting on the internet. I have no idea how effective he has been, but he appears to believe that he has been. Certainly, he appears to believe it a worthy cause. Who, after all, would need to? The majority of them are self-sabotaging. There is that, of course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] This sort of brainlessness on your part is why I initially assumed Lawson must be joking to suggest you were capable of participating in a conspiracy to corrupt the pundits. Never meant to imply a conspiracy. If Swami Swaroopananda were consulted, he would likely respond that the MMY is a murderer and nothing he does should be supported. ColdBlueICe brags (IIRC) about dissuading people from learning TM due to his internet posting. If he could concieve of a way to have some negative effect on the pundit project in Fairfield that would require no more expenditure of energy than writing internet posts and e- mails, do you think he wouldn't do so? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Paranoia, Sir Torque. I always looked up to you as an inspiration. Remember that scene in Predator when Ahnold takes a punch at the predator creature and then realizes that this is not exactly the smartest thing he's ever done? The exact quote is, Bad idea. Looking up to me? Bad idea. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi: `Because the Vedic words are the words of the transcendental field, being the structuring dynamics of the transcendental field, they are not limited to space and time. That means when one word is pronounced its effect is everywhere, everywhere. This has given the Vedic language the authority to produce the effect anywhere in space and time from one place in space and timeanywhere in the universe from anywhere in the universe. Dr. Morris: Uh, if the effect is everywhere, from anywhere, why was it so important to move the pundits to America? Wouldn't their chanting have been as effective in India? Maharishi: Yes, but their value in fundraising would not have been. Where are your *priorities*, Bevan? No soup for you. The importance of moving the pandits/pundits to the US is their consciousness is now on the US. Its a subtle thing and has a direct effect on the celestial attention on the US also. Should help with fundraising too, only because the TMO will now be more effective.;-) Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? Good question- I went back and read all of bob's posting regarding Maharishi's talk about the Yagyas performed by the pundits. It doesn't specifically address the physical placement of the pundits relative to the object of focus of the Yagya, while they are performing the Yagya, though it is clear about the effects of the Yagya transcending time and space. So based on what I know today, I am comfortable with the conclusion I reached earlier regarding the pundits' attention (I said consciousness earler, but I think 'attention' is a better word for what I am trying to say) being on the US. If they have some environmental impact based on the location of their practice, than the people most likely to receive that benefit would be the Yogic Flyers living in Fairfield, no? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
Who is your brother? Where Is Robert Winquest these days? - Original Message From: Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:35:06 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" curtisdeltablues@ wrote: My favorite line: "Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand." The thing I couldn't help noticing is that he only showed up to "check everything out." One gets the feeling that he wasn't actually gettin' down and dirty with the construction work. Of course, not! That would be undignified. My bro, the Raja of Denver,can't even take his kids to the MUM pool because it would be likehanging out with commoners or some such. Technically, he's not evensupposed to drive; he's supposed to be chauffeured around. Rajas havea whole 'nuther set of rules and regulations to follow. Thankfully, being the mere brother of a Raja doesn't impact my life atall, except that people now ask me what it's like to be the brother ofa Raja.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
ffia1120, Did they pick you up in a limo at the airport when you went to to get your Chopra technique? Nice touch. That was really a funny move on MMY's part letting him teach techniques without a puja. He did a long induction first with my eyes closed, I remember that. It was a mix of techniques like a yardsale package. Some A of E technique, a nightime technique and a magic word for health. After leaving the movement I felt it was particularly sketchy selling a magic word for your health cloaked in the respectability of a doctor's office. They say don't tempt an honest man. When Chopra saw us all lining up with our fists full of dollars (I remember it had to be in cash) he must have thought to himself, Popa needs a new pair of shoes! I think Chopra's story was a way of distancing himself from his association with MMY. Making it seem like he got techniques from the Shankaracharya was like padding his resume. He blew his own cover by being too specific about how he did the techniques. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm.. I don't know what he was doing (besides practicing medicine) prior to joining MMY. Sounds though, like he is either lying or has his timeline messed up/confused. I met him before he got too involved with the TMO and he was a very honest, ethical person back then. But the TMO has been known to corrupt a person or two. ;-) (P.S. I got a technique in his Stoneham office back in '86 or '87, too. I cannot for the life of me remember what it was, though. Oh the wonders of the aging brain.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote: I believe Chopra hooked up with MMY in 1985 or '86. Certainly not before that. He was working at a Mormon hospital in the Boston area before he got invloved with the TMO. So he was practicing a technique like the sidhis before he met MMY? See my timeline problem with his story? He was selling MMY's Chopra technique by '87. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: There were some interesting claims by Chopra. He claimed to have learned a program based on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras from the Shankaracharya in 1980. His claim poses some interesting time line issues. Is he describing his experience with MMY on a sidhi course? He mixes up a few different techniques in his description, some virtues sutras, some A of E technique, which he sold to me right in his doctor's office in Stonham Mass for $700 in around '87, and some other forgiveness techniques common in new age seminars. Could any of this be true? Was he with MMY in 80? His magic bird attraction story also has problems for me. Holding out food to tame birds makes them come to you for the food. Without the food he would have an unusual story. With the food you've got nothing. He shifted the story to make it sound like magic at first. He claims that after the three week course with the Shankaracharya , he would see a bird on a tree and have the intention for it to come to him and it would. Later he mentions using grain or nuts to feed the birds. I'm guessing he fed some parrots nuts, most birds can't eat them, and some pigeons grain, most birds don't want grain but pigeons love millet. Or just made the whole nonsense up start to finish. Wanna know a surefire way to tell if Chopra is lying? Watch his lips, if they are moving, bingo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did not understand what the word meant. I have always thought of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not reborn. I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like moving from one house to the other. snip excellent story Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not just describing what happens when you actually die. The same process applies to the continual death and rebirth of the self during a single incarnation. That is an interesting concept. What do you mean by continual death and rebirth during a single incarnation? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
I don't care about any of this objective shit. I'm curious about subjective
meditation or spiritual experiences of depth or tranquility. Especially of
FF locals.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
sparaig spare egg/ Lawson English wrote:
Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.??
How would you know a corrupted Pundit from an un-corrupted
Pundit?
Perhaps by the style in which they wear their dhotis?
Which style would indicate a corrupted pundit?
Do lange Dhoti (Ankle Length)
Tevata Dhoti (Mid Calf Length)
Tilangi Dhoti (Above Knee)
Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of,
but I'm almost certain that a few people who
have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce)
would feel obligated to try to their utmost
to make it so and come to think of it,
Please tell me Spare Egg why would i care??
So, when the course finally ends in Fairfield, and America is much
the state of affairs that it was last month-Sept.'06 does this
somehow indicate that it is my fault?
And, when no one in Fairfield {ph}lies.., it is because i single-
handedly corrupted pundits in Iowa from Austin, TX?
How would i-, try to their utmost to make it so?
The pundits were probably corrupt the momment they decided to hook
up with Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma.
As no pundit worth his salt would make a claim(or allow another to
make a claim) that would insinuate a group of pundits
chanting Vedic verses could change the course of human events.
Just this morning i read the US forces just topped 100 dead troops
in Iraq for the month of October...Somehow i just don't think this
whole pundit thing is working.
Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the
same way.
And, you are somehow qualifed to speak for the *ONLY* legally
recognized / legitimate Shankaracharya of Jyosimutt and direct
disciple of Sri BrahmanandJi??
As Barry points out later on.., if these pundits can indeed
influence the entire universe by their chanting from anywhere in the
world to anywhere.., then why come here to America?
But if the Democrats are successful in taking control of the US
Senate i guess you will claim it was the pundits.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Role of Vedic Pundits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as a question, it doesn't bother you that your theory above (in the first two sentences) is in direct contradiction to what Maharishi actually said? Good question- I went back and read all of bob's posting regarding Maharishi's talk about the Yagyas performed by the pundits. It doesn't specifically address the physical placement of the pundits relative to the object of focus of the Yagya, while they are performing the Yagya, though it is clear about the effects of the Yagya transcending time and space. So based on what I know today, I am comfortable with the conclusion I reached earlier regarding the pundits' attention (I said consciousness earler, but I think 'attention' is a better word for what I am trying to say) being on the US. I wasn't trying to change your mind. I think that attention is probably more of a factor in the effect (if there is one) than the verses being chanted or the ceremony being performed, personally. I was just curious whether you'd noticed that your theory was not in agreement with what Maharishi actually said. There is the question of what effect the physical location of the pundits has. Is there none, or is there an effect on the local vicinity of the practice, by virtue of their physical presence? Is this effect synergistic ala the ME? Is it distance-related in some sense? Is it different than the effect of their chanting or is it related? Does it enhance the effect of Yogic Flying in some way? Etc. I don't know that any of these questions is even worth asking, but assuming that the ME exists and that the extended ME exists (N-squared effect), and that the pundits can have ANY kind of affect on the universe due to their chanting specific verses of the Vedas, the above questions aren't out-of-line. Those are a lot of assumptions, but for those who accept some of the premises that MMY does, such as the ultimate ahimsa being samadhi and that it has a constructive field effect, the above are relevant questions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
Probably global warming like how it snowed in Los Angeles in 88. - Original Message - From: Louis McKenzie To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity I remember 1979. It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history. 60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? - Original Message From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:28:23 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today: 2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST) From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits ArriveThanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Audio talk with Chopra... talks about peace, TM movement, etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm.. I don't know what he was doing (besides practicing medicine) prior to joining MMY. Sounds though, like he is either lying or has his timeline messed up/confused. I met him before he got too involved with the TMO and he was a very honest, ethical person back then. But the TMO has been known to corrupt a person or two. ;-) (P.S. I got a technique in his Stoneham office back in '86 or '87, too. I cannot for the life of me remember what it was, though. Oh the wonders of the aging brain.) Thanks for your impressions. Really. Chopra is a complete mystery to me. He arrived on the TM scene long after I had beat feet, and I've never been interested enough in him to read any of his books or articles. So about the only things I've heard about him are the badraps one tends to hear on TM-oriented talk forums. As a result, other than respecting him for his decision to beat feet and find his own path, I know diddleysquat about the man. It's good to hear some balancing opinions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where Is Robert Winquest these days? http://www.vendingsupply.com/about.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandits - etiquette
sparaig spare egg /Lawson English wrote: judy stein wrote: sparaig wrote: judy stein wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: sparaig wrote: Jason Spock wrote: Is there a Conspiracy to corrupt the Vedic Pundits.?? Now THAT is something I hadn't thought of, but I'm almost certain that a few people who have contributed to this forum (e.g. ColdBlueIce) would feel obligated to try to their utmost to make it so and come to think of it, Swami Swaroopananda and friends probably feel the same way. As I heard it, Coldbluiceman (in the best TMer entrepreneurial spirit) has opened a Seduce A Pundit stand within sight of the frat windows, where nubile young Iowa babes are encouraged to sunbathe nude and fondle themselves. Sparaig, *someday* you and Jason should learn to keep your unreasoning paranoia to yourselves. Uh, Barry, I think Jason was expressing skepticism, and Lawson was making, you know, a joke. Actually, I wasn't joking. ColdBlueIce has devoting years of posting on a.m.t. to saying that Maharishi Pundits simply don't exist, period. And Swami Swaroopananda believes that MMY killed his guru. Given those facts it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they are working deligently to sabotage MMY's projects, if at all possible. Swaroopanand *might* be in a position to get in the way, but I'm not sure why he'd think he needed to. He seems pretty convinced MMY is a fraud, so why would he bother? Better to stand aside and just let the whole thing flop. The idea of ColdBlue being able to accomplish anything to sabotage the pundit project, other than thinking evil thoughts and making absurd posts, appears to me to be ludicrous on its face. I never said that they would be effective. In Swaroopanand's case, he certainly could have (and almost certainly would have, had he been made aware) worked behind the scenes to sabatoge any attempts to bring the pundits here in the first place. Namaste Sir Lawson Ji.., i must respectfully standby my original thoughts on this matter and your current state of mental un-wellness. And, politley pose my question again to you..,aside from being clinically diagnosed as having an OCD did your doctor also conduct screening for paranoia deslusional behavior? In ColdBlueIce's case, like as not, he's on a Mission from God to help the pundits see the error of their ways-- afterall, he says that they have been corrupted from the moment they had contact with MMY and the TMO, Sir Lawson Jji.., my statement regarding the pundits as-, they have been corrupted from the moment they had contact with Mishmashi Brahmachari Varma and the tmo was speculative in nature. As, i played along with the assumption you and Judy have have made that these kurta/dhoti pajama-clad gentlemen from India are indeed any sort of Vedic pundits. i maintain these vedic pundits are vedic pundits because Mishmashi Brahmachari Prasad Varma told you so! And, in fact are indian tmo recuits from off the streets of any major Indian city. so he would be doing them a tremendous favor by rescuing them from association with a hell-bound teacher (his terms). You are really are a verified *Nut Case* aren't you..Lawson? Think of the good karma that would result, in his eyes... Induldge me for a moment in your warped delusional fantasy Lawson and elucidate.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness
I have lived so many lives in this one life it is amazing I actually like this way better. I can die but continue so that I can come back to a place or group of people and reunite instead of as in reincarnation when dropping the body you have to go through the whole remembering process and reuniting. This way is so much better. - Original Message From: sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:02:42 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I have believed in reincarnation, but I must say I did not understand what the word meant.I have always thought of reincarnating as death and rebirth. But lets look at when you said. Consciouness does not die. Consciousness therefore is not reborn.I am not my body I am the indweller. I will maintian this body for a time and then change it like old clothes, like moving from one house to the other. snip excellent story Just FYI, one view of the rebirth process described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that it is not just describing what happens when you actually die. The same process applies to the continual death and rebirth of the self during a single incarnation.That is an interesting concept. What do you mean by continual death and rebirth during a single incarnation?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
No Drugs what is this question? - Original Message From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:16:31 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity Louis.Sweetheart.Are you on any prescription drugs?If so, how long have you been on them?In the interests of full disclosure, be a dear and list them here, please.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember 1979.It was one of the mildest winters in fairfield history.60 degrees in November and december how was this happening? Was it simply that global warming decided to focus on fairfield or was Maharishi really controlling the weather? - Original Message From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:28:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: From the Yahoo! Group TMNews today:2. Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive at MUM, USA Posted by: [] Date: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:46 pm (PST)From: Einar Olsen Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Celestial Unity, First Maharishi Pandits Arrive Thanks for posting this- The end of the beginning, eh? Glad to hear all went smoothly. Reminded me of Movement projects where it seems the air itself is lubricated for such things as this to happen. Good stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups LinksTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join(Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: Where Is Robert Winquest these days? http://www.vendingsupply.com/about.html Glad to see he's putting that Doctorate of Education to good use. Is the good doctor still doing TM? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celestial Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favorite line: Raja Wynne came in his white limo to check everything out. He looked grand. Second favorite line: Maharishi's Pandits arrived in Chicago in Raja Michael's domain to garlands, a large banner in Devanagari script, bags of treats and small gifts, bagpiper. Nothing says welcome to America to an Indian man like a bagpiper! I'm guessing that Mike Meyers was right: If it's not Scottish, it's crpp!! India IS part of the Commonwealth, and for 200 years, dignitaries have been greeted with bagpipes, I suspect. Besides, bagpipes are vedic. Maybe not the Scottish warpipes, but I've seen something that looks like an uilleann pipe, but driven by a bellows without breath, used by Ram Dass to aid his chanting and a quick google search on indian bagpipe says that there is a local variety that predates the British conquest. It is called a mashak or titti. Interestingly enough, it is also a water transportation device, according to one website: fill it with water and you can use it to cross a river by jetting the water out... Makes a good life preserver too, I guess. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Toni and Martin discuss MMY, $, etc
It's only interesting for seeing how people treat spirituality like a smorgasbord and blame the table for their indigestion. - Original Message - From: Vashti To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Toni and Martin discuss MMY, $, etc Boo!While googling I stumbled upon this link:http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=1444postdays=0postorder=ascstart=15sid=84f309e11603fbae4edd9e0cecbf1933 It's a conversation from 2005 between 2 TMers, "Toni" (managed The Crest Jewel for awhile but I don't remember her) and "Martin". I haven't looked through the rest of the forum. Haven't seen it mentioned here on FFL so I thought it might be of interest. Cheers,Vashti __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
