RE: test
I just joined...and I got ya, too!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:00:14 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: testTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I got ya Kelley--- On Tue, 6/17/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: testTo: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:35 PM Is the list working? I miss all the kind and helpful people that populate it-- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.http://www.rescuties.orgVist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20Check out our Memsaic!http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*Please help with some of our kitties medical needs!http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expensesRather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: looking for advice re kitty prozac
I tried amytriptaline (that's probably spelled wrong!) on Ruben for inappropriate urination.I now believe that it was his first signs that something was wrong with him internally My daughter used the same drug (we had it compounded into a cream we could rub into the ear...pilling was out of the question) on one of her male cats...her cat became more calm, but I'm not sure it completely solved the problem. I have heard people are having great results with the plug ins that release certain pheremones that are calming, but I haven't tried them yet myself. Good luck, it's one of a cat owner's biggest problems!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Subject: looking for advice re kitty prozacDate: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:40:25 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Dear all Has anyone ever used a kitty Prozac such as fluoxetine? One of my co-workers whose cat has always been a sprayer--and she's had him for YEARS, kudos to her---was thrilled when 1/2 tab fluoxetine daily fixed the behavior almost immediately. Unfortunately he began foaming at the mouth at the same time, so she stopped using it after a few days. Does anyone have any experience in using an alternative prozac that worked for spraying without causing foaming or other adverse side-effects. She says she's going to the vet to ask about a different one after she returns from vacation, and I thought I'd try picking your brains before she went. I think it's wonderful that--unlike so many people--she's committed to her cat despite his spraying. I have a sprayer too, but he's feral, so there's nothing I can use (he's not into any sort of treat on a regular basis, and he turned his nose up at Pillpockets) apart from a dividing line between him and the cause of his behavior, my other cats. He has his own loyal buddy, a female, Momcat, so he's pretty content on the whole, I think. Anyway, thanks for any other prozac ideas! Kerry _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08
Heather, I would like to introduce myself...I joined a couple of week back. I have been fostering/rescuing kittehs for the past 11 years in the Sanford/Orlando area. My first and only experience with Felv was not too long ago...and frankly, I knew next to nothing about the dise...ase...imagine my horror in finding out that an adult cat can throw the virus!! Mr. Thomas, a gorgeous cat who wandered into my life, turned out to be +...after they did his neutermyvet at the time told me he could NOT be outdoors anymoreand that he was putting all of my other 13 rescues at risk if I kept him inside...I find myself wondering if this darling young fellow might have survived...had I just researched a little more...I found may sanctuaries and shelters that would take FIV cats, but not one that would help with Felv.my heart still aches for Mr. Thomas. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that I am close by if you should ever need anything.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:42:56 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08 With much sadness, I wanted to share with everyone that Hobbs' sister, Sissy, has now joined him. The loss of her dear brother affected Sissy very much, which was to be expected as they were quite bonded, and she began to take a similar road as Hobbs did in his final days. Their people-Mom Jann had wanted to avoid Sissy suffering as she felt Hobbs did, and had planned for her to cross this morning, though unfortunately they had a very bad night, and stayed the night in the garage together, where Sissy had actually been spending a lot of time lately. I apologize that I haven't been active since the outpouring of support from you all regarding the loss of Hobbs, unfortunately the following week we lost another FELV+ rescue, Shennanigans (whom a friend in another city had given a home to for these last 3 months), and also a dear Torti rescue named Freckles who we found living in a woman's yard, very ill and with an old very uncomfortable injury. She was such a sweet, beautiful kitty and her spirit really touched us all very much, a rescue was assisting with her medical care but force feeding with her injury was very stressful for Freckles, and her caregiver, and given the severity of her illness (which prevented her from being a candidate for surgery for her long-healed injury, unless she made a remarkable recovery), they felt it was best to release her from her pain. I found out after the fact and have struggled with it ever since as I feel I didn't do enough for her, soon enough, and wonder if things could have been different. Shennanigans was a beautiful little charcoal grey long haired kitty whom we found outside at my vets, likely dumped around Febuary. She appeared to be only 4 - 5 months old, though we aren't really sure. The woman who she went to live with said her vet thought she might be older than we initially thought, she wasn't spayed when we found her and I still think she was a pretty young kitty. Her initial FELV test was a weak+. I really should have posted about Shennanigans here but was fairly numb with all of the loss.I was not the direct caregiver, but the rescuer, for these kitties so can only imagine what my friends have been going through as they loved them all dearly. Even if it was only for 3 months, I know Shennanigans spent those last 3 months sleeping in a bed with someone, though she was afraid of the other cats. What Jann did for Hobbs and Sissy, giving two little FELV+ kittens a home which is so hard to find, I will be eternally grateful for.I hate the pain it's caused her, yet she is such a giving soul and does nothing but thank me for entrusting her with their care and for the precious time she had with them over this last year. While I am always full of doubts as to how I handle things, I am so confident in the wonderful, loving happy lives they had with Jann, no matter how short. I just hate how painful the end has been. She still has their Mother, a double+ kitty I found at my new job with an eye ear injury, she has outlived all of her kittens--I found them all last April under a trailer behind my new office. I had moved accross campus after almost 20 years in the same building, and kept looking for a sign from God as to whether I should make the move...when I found Mom her babies, and their testing status, I knew had anyone else found them they'd most likely have immediately been put down, and that they were the sign I was looking for. We also have a new Leuk+ rescue, this poor kitty had scabies so bad his eyes were crusted shut (and still are quite infected), a friend made a heroic rescue standing on a truck and plucking this kitty out of a tree, and it hit hard when we found out he was leuk+. We are still looking for a home for him, and he is still boarding at
RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, My heart breaks for youI am so sorry. Godspeed, little Melina!Debbie You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:44:02 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Melina Please add to the CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts for this beautiful baby.The aweful disease was way too much for her this time.She was a VERY spunky little girl.My heart aches without her in my life.I need to keep telling myself that I gave her so much love that she was happy until the end.I will miss her little loving head butts and rubbing her sweet face on mine.Ok now the tears are coming out. :( Once again thank you all so much for having to listen to all my sadness.But I also get ALOT of goodness out of these creatures. Sherry _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: New server?
I would help if I canDebbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:26:27 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: New server?To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sky Danncer (Davy S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of us are there to divide the cost?Davy- Original Message - From: Sue Koren To: FeLV Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:19 AMSubject: New server? Hello everyone - I went to the archives today and found that I am only getting about half of the messages. Earlier this month it was suggested that we all chip in if a new server is needed. The support of this group has meant a great deal to me and I would be very happy to help in some way. Is it feasible to make this new server idea happen? Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Smokey update
Wow, Kathryn...what a rough weekend-for the both of you! It sounds like it took a while for the antibiotic to kick in for him...and that can make us completely frantic with worry, I know! I am still learning a lot about the disease process...but it sounds like he might get through this episode alright. I agree that getting him outside would be therapeuticthose enclosures are So expensive, thoughperhaps someone here has another idea? Good luck with your little guy...it's gonna be a rough ride, and your heart will be broken in the end...but you are doing a wonderful thing!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Smokey updateDate: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:10:11 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everyone,I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet.Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while.I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening,Kathryn-Original Message-From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 amSubject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonyaDiane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy (what's his name?) the best food possible and keep him as happy as possible, that's a great first step. You can also supplement his diet with L-lysine (from natural food stores, without the additives found in the kind you find in most drugstores, which is toxic to cats). Make sure your vet is knowledgeable on FeLV -- if he/she didn't immediately suggest euthanasia, that's a good sign. If he/she isn't, look around for one who is. Some people here like holistic vets, if there are some in your area, in addition to their regular vet. There's no way to know how long any of them will last. Some people here have kitties who have lived long and well with FeLV, and then there are some (like my Patches, who came to me as a stray, too, who only stayed with me six weeks.) What's important is to enjoy him every minute he's with you, fight the good fight together, but know when it's time to let go. Not easy, but doable. Good luck with your guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:50 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Melina. I am new to this site and really know nothing of this terrible disease. I have recently (just bringing him home from the vets today) adopted the sweetest little boy who sadly has this virus. He showed up a few days ago as a stray. My husband and I fell in love with him and took him to the vet for shots, etc. Sadly, we were informed that he has tested positive. I really do not know what this means. Any information will be greatly appreciated. I especially would like to know what I can do to keep him well for as long as possible. The vet suggests Vitamin C. Any information will be greatly appreciated.Sincerely,Kathryn-Original Message-From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 8:20 pmSubject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( I'm so saddened Sherry that Melina couldn't rally yet another time. My heart honestly aches everytime I hear of another passing. It sometimes makes one wonder just how much a body can endure. But I guess the courage and trusting nature of these dear creatures makes it possible to go on. Lynne - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First of
RE: test
Sherry, I am new to your site, but you came through just fine!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:44:09 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: testTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org i have gotten back the last 2 messages i sent telling me they could not be delivered. :( _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: Working on the bugs
Jane The sending problem must be fixed, since I got your note!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:51:45 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: Working on the bugs thanks James I cannot send or receive mail and I have tried everything I can think of on my end. I look forward to rejoining the list. Jane Lyons On Jul 14, 2008, at 5:26 PM, James G Wilson wrote: Hey all, I am (again) working on getting the bugs fixed with the FeLV project- especially the mail program. I bought us our own server, so things should be back to normal in the next two days or so. Again, I apologize for all of the inconvenience during the past two months. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Kind regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive
Robin, what a wonderful story. All of my cats came to me much the same way you found Kiwiorphaned or abandoned...sometimes right after birth. Love him all you can and enjoy his little antics...sometimes their time is very short! Good luck! Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:48:29 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - feline Luk positive Last summer my son brought home a kitten who was between 2 1/2 and 3 weeks old. He found him beside his dead sibling. He was actually in good health. We bought some kitten formula and he drank like a horse. We worked on getting him use to people so that he could eventually get him into a rescue. My daughter who was living with me at the time took her cat in for his regular shots, and took kiwi with her so she could be looked at. I guess kiwi was about 3 months old then. We were very shocked when kiwi came back positive for feline luk. The doctors asked without saying the words if we wanted to put him asleep. We said no. At that point she was and kind of still is a very healthy happy one year old who loves to wrestle with our cocker and would love to play with my daughter's Japanese Bob Tail Cat, but unfortunately we have to keep them separate. The Japanese Bob Tail Cat has been immunized against Feline Luk, but we have also heard that the shot does not offer 100% protection. It's sad because they use to love to play together. We were hoping that in a few months kiwi would come back negative, but he came back positive for the second test. He still is very active, but he has been having trouble with loose bowels. He is also a bit on the thin side. I don't have the money to take him to the vets and we have tried to find him a rescue and or foster home, but right now it doesn't seem like any are available. One thing positive is that we were able to find an organization to neuter him. Now he doesn't spray. Thank God! He is funny sometimes. Some times he gets one of his claws caught in things like curtains, and cat toys. He was trying to catch a fly one day by our back patio window and his nail got caught in the curtain and he couldn't get free. He was scared and somehow got himself wrapped in the curtain. He was so grateful when I freed him. His favorite toy is a 3 inch round black rubber spider. He loves carrying it around in the house. I don't let him play with it unless someone is here with him because I worry about him swallowing it and it getting stuck in his intestines causing a blockage. He also loves laser pointers. She loves chasing the dot on the floor or wall. He loves the little jingle cat balls, or strings. One thing I don't understand is that she enjoys licking our cocker spaniels face. He is such a funny cat. Besides that he loves to check everything out. He is the curious little cat. I would enclose a picture of him but I am new to this site and I don't know if that is allowed. Well, enough for now. I would appreciate advise from anyone on raising a feline luk positive cat. Thanks! Robin Pine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn, I am so very sorry for your lossbut remember, you did the very best you could, and Smokey knew how much he was loved!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:03:54 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :(I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of information and support.Sincerely,Kathryn-Original Message-From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 7:07 amSubject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( Kathryn, you can buy it as a pill from a drug store and maybe in a capsule. I started with 500 mg caplets and they were tough to crush. I ended up buying the powder from iHerbs. http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1st=lkw=L-Lysine Much easier to work with. I dissolve it in a little water, mix with food and feed it to mine. Sharyl --- On Tue, 7/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:12 PM It occurred to me last night that I did not take the time to properly say my condolences for the lost kittys such as Melina. It saddens me whenever a little animal leaves us and my thoughts are sincerely with their owners. I've been kind of preoccupied with Smokey. I really understand how these guys can effect you, I think it's because they are so innocent and, like Smokey, are so trusting. Every time I go to pet him, which is a lot, he purrs, even though he's not feeling great.I will be gone for six days on a previously planned vacation, (bad timing, I know). However, he will be staying with my vet, I'm really hoping that she can get his ulcers cleared up. I absolutely will get him on lysine. Just one more question if you all don't mind: Do I get it in liquid form or is it a powder? I'll email when I return to give an update. Can you send pictures on this site? If so and if it's appropriate, I can send a picture of Smokey.Thanks, again,Kathryn-Original Message-From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 8:10 pmSubject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( Wendy I am doing ok.Thanks for your concern.I really had the urge NOT to go to Sids tonight.But my heart dragged me there as usual.Not the same without Melina there.She was the first one I would look for and then I would carry her around and do the cat check head count.I fell for that baby girl the second I laid eyes on her. Also keep Jaws in your prayers,he is not doing so well.Another one that wins over your heart as soon as you meet him. Thanks so much, Sherry--- On Mon, 7/7/08, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :(To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:47 AM Sherry, How are you today? I hope you're doing better. I'm sorry about Melina. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:44:02 PMSubject: Melina Please add to the CLS :( First of all I want to thank all of you for your prayers and good thoughts for this beautiful baby.The aweful disease was way too much for her this time.She was a VERY spunky little girl.My heart aches without her in my life.I need to keep telling myself that I gave her so much love that she was happy until the end.I will miss her little loving head butts and rubbing her sweet face on mine.Ok now the tears are coming out. :( Once again thank you all so much for having to listen to all my sadness.But I also get ALOT of goodness out of
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
Sharyl, since I am new to this site...I can offer little in the way of advise right now. I just wanted to thank you for everything you are doing for them!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:21:44 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies I have been feeding a dumpster colony of kitties for several months with the goal of doing TNR (trap/neuter/release) for those that I can not rescue. Of the 3 kittens I rescued 2, Sissy and Rocket, were FeLV+. They are about 9 months old now and are doing well. Both have test positive twice. Their sister, Daisy, had a litter before I was able to TNR her. The kittens were approx. 4 weeks old when I got them. I took them because 1 had both eyes stuck shut and 1 had 1 eye stuck shut. The next day I was finally able to trap Daisy using a kitten as bait in the carrier.Daisy has since been spayed and released. The babies have received one worm treatment, got terramycin salve in their eyes for a week, and have lysine added to their food. It appears that Mattie will be blind. She is the biggest of the 4 and very feisty. I had her tested and the vet said she was very, very, very FeLV+. No idea what 3 verys mean. CJ may have some limited vision in her bad eye. Bright Eyes and Houdini (escaped from the dog crate twice now) seem healthy. I am adding L-Lysine and Mega C Plus to their food. I am looking for advice on what else I can do to help them throw off this virus. They will each be tested when I have them spayed. Sissy and Rocket were several months old when I rescued them. Didn't know if starting treatments earlier would improve the odds that they could beat this. Any advise on how to proceed with now 5 1/2 wk old kittens would be appreciated. By the way Stormie, same colony but different Mom from Sissy, Rocket and Daisy, tested negative. I did not have Daisy tested. I knew I could not afford to keep her if she was positive and simply do not have the disposition to have a cat PTS simply because she is positive. At least she will not have any more litters. There is one more sister, Mae, that I have been trying to trap for TNR. Sharyl Sissy, Rocket and the babies _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
LOL, MCyou NOE I lubs yu!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:38:09 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies it IS you, i thought it was my imagination!this is my FRIEND!!! oh, joy, oh, happiness, oh, never mind, you guys will NEVER understand!MC On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharyl, since I am new to this site...I can offer little in the way of advise right now. I just wanted to thank you for everything you are doing for them!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:21:44 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies I have been feeding a dumpster colony of kitties for several months with the goal of doing TNR (trap/neuter/release) for those that I can not rescue. Of the 3 kittens I rescued 2, Sissy and Rocket, were FeLV+. They are about 9 months old now and are doing well. Both have test positive twice. Their sister, Daisy, had a litter before I was able to TNR her. The kittens were approx. 4 weeks old when I got them. I took them because 1 had both eyes stuck shut and 1 had 1 eye stuck shut. The next day I was finally able to trap Daisy using a kitten as bait in the carrier.Daisy has since been spayed and released. The babies have received one worm treatment, got terramycin salve in their eyes for a week, and have lysine added to their food. It appears that Mattie will be blind. She is the biggest of the 4 and very feisty. I had her tested and the vet said she was very, very, very FeLV+. No idea what 3 verys mean. CJ may have some limited vision in her bad eye. Bright Eyes and Houdini (escaped from the dog crate twice now) seem healthy. I am adding L-Lysine and Mega C Plus to their food. I am looking for advice on what else I can do to help them throw off this virus. They will each be tested when I have them spayed. Sissy and Rocket were several months old when I rescued them. Didn't know if starting treatments earlier would improve the odds that they could beat this. Any advise on how to proceed with now 5 1/2 wk old kittens would be appreciated. By the way Stormie, same colony but different Mom from Sissy, Rocket and Daisy, tested negative. I did not have Daisy tested. I knew I could not afford to keep her if she was positive and simply do not have the disposition to have a cat PTS simply because she is positive. At least she will not have any more litters. There is one more sister, Mae, that I have been trying to trap for TNR.Sharyl Sissy, Rocket and the babies Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristine _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Thanks for the linkI printed it out and will mail it to the vet.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.htmlMost folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Oh yeah, she said it...we actually argued about itI have never felt completely comfortable with her diagnostic skills...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:18:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Yes, MC is known for being one of our most objective (cough) members. But I have to agree with her. Are you sure your vet actually said this tMaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.as ever, objectively yours,MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristine___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion).Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
Ohai, MaryChristine...I'm happy that you posted the website yet again...it's the first time I have seen it! You rock, mai fondue fren!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:53:49 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies unfortunately, not enough vets know as much as they really ought to. many, many times i wish that i knew MORE, because i am NOT a vet, i am NOT a virologist, and just do my best to make the things i've found clearer to others--and hope that those who know more than i do, will do likewise!i think that EVERYONE who has a FeLV, and who knows one, or who ever has loved one, needs to play out copies of--of have the url to tattooed where they can show it everyone--the most recent merck manual, where they've got the most up-to-date figures about how many cats do NOT remain viremic after exposure. shelters, rescues, vets, people who claim to follow alley cat allies' policy yet in practice test all cats and then KILL felvs (yet brag about the FeLVs they have at home): there are no excuses for ignorance, and now that the anecdotal info that the brave people who came before us is reaching the mainstream, ignorance about FeLV is a CHOICE when made by professionals, veterinary or rescue. here's that link again, and while i DO get tired of posting it, oh, well, if i don't (and you don't, and you don't, and you, there, over in the corner snuggling with your cute little FeLV baby, don't), no one else will.) The Merck Veterinary Manual -Feline Leukemia Virus and Related Diseases: Introduction do you have other cats? (yeah, i know, i could go back and reread everything, but.) are you isolating the little ones because of their FeLV status, or presumed status? are the older ones vaccinated against FeLV? if so, you really don't have to worry about them mixing with the young ones if the adults are healthy as the old-timers on this list can tell you, so far no one has been able to find a single, documented case of a TRUE negative (tested at least twice, with enough time for exposure and seroconversion times taken into consideration) becoming positive from LIVING with (closely, not just breathing on in passing) a TRUE positive (as above; testing positive over time, using at least two kinds of tests). current vaccination efficacy rates at 95% (yes, i am trying to find WHERE that figure is hiding in my hard drive; i know it was susan little, dvm, of the winn feline foundation, that gave that figure to a cat-health list in the past two or three years. many places state--not always with any proof or citation--that cats seem to develop a natural immunity to the FeLV virus around the age of one year, and with the KNOWN high percentage quoted in the merck re: ability to remain or become negative after exposure, anyone can see how miniscule the risk is for a vaccinated cat.is there a risk? of course there is. is it a higher risk than the same negative cat is going to have some genetic defect in its own history you have no knowledge of? i'm starting to think the latter is a much higher probabilityyou might want to talk with some of the folks who have positives running around their houses with the rest, now and in the past, and see why they made that decisioni wish that i could tell you that these little ones will, indeed, throw off the virus on their own and be as adoptable as any others. kittens with FeLV still appear to have less of a chance at a long life than those infected later in life, but we don't know enough to say why, and which ones have the best chance, nor what we can do to ensure that they get that absolute best chance. thank you for loving them. that's the best gift of all, anyway.MC On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks MC for explaining the ELISHA test. I had Mattie tested when her Mom. Daisy, was spayed. A lady here on the Eastern Shore drives up to MD once a month to a vet who does low cost spaying for rescues. She doesn't know anything about FeLV and just relayed the vets comments. Sissy and Rocket have had two ELISHA tests 4 months apart. When I 1st rescued them and again when they were spayed. Since they were FeLV+ I went with the local high cost vet for the spaying. Didn't want them stressed any more than necessary. I plan to have the IFA test done late this yr. Both are currently the picture of health and tired of being quarantined in the bedroom. I have read the info on the Ally Cats web site. I agree that healthy cats should not be PTS. The Yahoo Rescue group I belong to feels that TNR kitties should not be tested as long as they are healthy when spayed/neutered. Like the military 'don't ask, don't tell' philosophy. The exception is any cat that will be placed for adoption. There were 5 kittens in Sissy and Rocket's litter, One vanished. One, Daisy, has been TNR
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
Oh yes, I lubs mai fren MC!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:15:25 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem and don't worry, debbie is WELL aware of my objectivity and lack of patience with willful ignorance, from another part of my life/side of the innerwebs and she STILL joined the list! On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, to answer you then...she specializes in well animals!! LOL...she hates doing any surgeries, and probably should never have become a vet (my personal opinion). Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:07 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemlol. i meant does he specialize in cats or is he more of a 'dog' personDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wrong kind, obviously!!!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problemyes, hyper thyroid is very common with cats. what kind of vet do you go toDebbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! ___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more!___Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristine _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP!
Julie, I wish you tremendous luck...such sweet beautiful babies!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:09:10 +To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] HELP! Hi Everyone, I am a volunteer with a new (in operation for 1 year) rescue group in Upstate NY. I have a litter of kittens, now 13 weeks, who tested positive last week for FeLV. I had them in with another litter..I know this was wrong, but it was certain death for them if I did not do this..I took a chance and it was a bad one. The others have all tested negative, but will be re-tested regardless..The positive litter had 1 kitten that was negative and 4 positive. 1 also was tested negative 2 weeks ago, but passed away in the hospital from a bacterial overload. These kittens are so healthy and happy..they are the most loving bunch I have ever known. I am desperate to try and find them homes. They have been separated from the negatives and are temporarily being kept in someones spare room. This is not a permanent solution obviously. I am hoping and praying that when they are retested that they may go negative..but our vet tells us that is very unlikely and I should look for homes for them where they can be only kitties or with other FeLV + cats. We have 2 from last year that we were never able to find homes for..they became permanent fosters...this is not doable for us now as we have no foster that can keep them indefinitely. I am reaching out in hopes that some of you may be interested in adopting one of these beautiful ans healthy babies. they are fully vetted and have been altered as well. I would be willing to transport them anywhere as long as it is a safe and loving home! Please let me know if you can help or if you have any suggestions on who could help. They do not deserve to die..they deserve to have loving homes! Here is a link to their pictures: a href=http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/julielafferty/Mayberry%20Babies/; target=_blankimg src=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/julielafferty/Mayberry%20Babies/Barney.jpg; alt=julielafferty/Mayberry Babies border=0 //a their names are Barney, Helen, Opie and Bea.. Desperately in need of help, Julie Please Don't Breed or Buy While Homeless Pets Die! http://www.anotherchancepetrescue.org/ Protect your PC from Spyware. Click now! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV therapy
Hello Herbert...just want to welcome you...I am new, also...and learning something new every day. Thank you for your input.Debbie You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:51:40 -0300Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV therapy Hello! nice to meet you. I am from Brazil and new to this talk group. If you’re not attracted to read so much, please, just jump to essential questions at the last paragraph. I have 14 cats, four of them FeLV+, persistently viremic, according to the results of four IFA tests carried through the last 6 months. Pupa, a siamese female 8 years old is the only showing advanced symptoms of illness, having developed lymphoma (diagnosed in April, in a submandibular lymphnode). The other three positives are very well and without any complication beyond leucopenia. The FeLV+ cats have been kept isolated from the others 10 animals (which have been recurrently tested negative for the same period). I am biologist and scientific researcher in the area of taxonomy and evolution but, since the beginning of this year, into an hard attempt to digest an amount of literature on veterinary and human (cancer and AIDS, specifically) medicine, in search of some alternative solution to one given by the vets who diagnosed the problem in the colony: “We are sorry to inform, but you it will go to lose all the positives in a short period of time”. Sometimes I wonder it wasn’t better if I had overlooked those papers in the first NCBI PubMed search. Since then I am trying to understand why such promising line of research have been discontinued after the 1990’s. The subsequent articles contradicting those finds are too few and, although a randomized controlled clinical trial, reporting there is no significant statistical difference between treated and placebo groups, a large amount of the early finds were left untouched, given no alternative explanation to a number of cases reporting remission of FeLV infection and FeLV related lymphosarcoma. I had no choice, and nothing to lose, so I decided to begin a treatment from my own. I still haven’t read all the early talks in this mailing list, but I expect many of you have already realized what the matter is; indeed I believe that some have previously experienced such drama. If so, I hope you can share with me some results, conclusions or just your doubts and opinions. I’ll be very pleased in putting my preliminary impression, to plant my doubts and discuss possible outcomes. DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE TRIED A TREATMENT WITH STAPHYLOCOCCAL PROTEIN A (SPA)? HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT ANY SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL TRIAL OUTSIDE THE CIENTIFIC LITERATURE? Thanks, Hebert from São Paulo Conheça já o Windows Live Spaces, o site de relacionamentos do Messenger! Crie já o seu! _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey
Sherry, the best of luck to you and Hennessey...Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:53:00 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Hi all we are in need of your good thoughts and prayers again.Sweet big orange boy Hennessey may be in liver failure.Dr. Jen is doing all she can for him. Thank you all. Sherry _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss of Hennesseylost my Baby Ruben last month...one day we will smile again.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:17:10 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :( I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words. Sherry _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic
I know I am totally too late here to make any difference, but myToken had a pcv equally low...and with serious steroid treatments (plous other meds and rx food) he recoveredholding Buzz and his mom in my prayers.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:37:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 30. She gave him a steriod shot. She says we could choose to give him a transfusion but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive. He also has a bad heart murmer. Right now I am just trying to by time to look into optiions. I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of painful procedures just to buy a month or two. They just don't understand why you are doing it to them. Why can't cats take iron pills like anemic humans do? So many questions... Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orgIiI _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Michele (and others)...not being sarcastic...I really need to know!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:23:16 +Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens Hi, We've had several FIV cats and they've all lived well into their teens. We didn't even start to see any health problems until they were older. One of our FIV cats is about 15 and she has only ever been to the vet for routine things. The one thing I would suggest is that you feed a really good quality diet and also that you get regular teeth cleanings. FIV cats tend to have teeth problems. Michele -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have had a kitten since last summer when he was about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He came back possitive FIV. He was tested again when he was about 9 or 10 months old and sad to say, he was still possitive. So I guess he does have FIV. Not sure what to do now. Thanks, Robin P. gary wrote: OK, here we go. The only reason to test a kitten for FIV before 6 months is to obtain a negative test and know for certain the kitten does NOT have FIV and can be adopted without the chance of FIV. We all know that MOST kittens who test positive for FIV will test negative when retested around 6 months of age. For FeLV, the accuracy of the test itself is not affect ed by the age of the kitten (at least I have never seen any data to indicate that) however, it can take 1 to 3 months to develop FeLV antigens to a detectable level after exposure. Some feel they are detectable in as little as 2 weeks. The vet is just trying to avoid a false negative. Unfortunately, there has not been enough study done to know just how much exposure and for what length of time it takes to infect a kitten or a cat. An article in Shelter Medicine says, FeLV can be spread transplacentally from mother to offspring, but spread via nursing or grooming is more common. http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_feline_felv.shtml They don't reference any data for that. Sort of leaves you in a tough place if you have a know FeLV queen about to give birth, do the kittens already have it, or do you snatch them away as soon as they ar e born so they don't get it from milk or grooming? Hope that helps. Gary - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens i guess the question is this, tho i may be wrong: there is no point in testing for FIV until at least six months of age, because both the ELISA and western blot test antibodies, and kittens will show their MOM'S antibodies until (and often for two or three motnsh beyond) then. is the only reason that the article i just read said you can test for FeLV, which tests antigens instead of antibodies? why would the vet mentioned above then say 3 months is the best age? ; ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
well...that went poorly...I was asking what constitutes a good diet for cats these days...please.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:39:29 +0500Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens Michele (and others)...not being sarcastic...I really need to know!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:23:16 +Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens Hi, We've had several FIV cats and they've all lived well into their teens. We didn't even start to see any health problems until they were older. One of our FIV cats is about 15 and she has only ever been to the vet for routine things. The one thing I would suggest is that you feed a really good quality diet and also that you get regular teeth cleanings. FIV cats tend to have teeth problems. Michele -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have had a kitten since last summer when he was about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks old. He came back possitive FIV. He was tested again when he was about 9 or 10 months old and sad to say, he was still possitive. So I guess he does have FIV. Not sure what to do now. Thanks, Robin P. gary wrote: OK, here we go. The only reason to test a kitten for FIV before 6 months is to obtain a negative test and know for certain the kitten does NOT have FIV and can be adopted without the chance of FIV. We all know that MOST kittens who test positive for FIV will test negative when retested around 6 months of age. For FeLV, the accuracy of the test itself is not affect ed by the age of the kitten (at least I have never seen any data to indicate that) however, it can take 1 to 3 months to develop FeLV antigens to a detectable level after exposure. Some feel they are detectable in as little as 2 weeks. The vet is just trying to avoid a false negative. Unfortunately, there has not been enough study done to know just how much exposure and for what length of time it takes to infect a kitten or a cat. An article in Shelter Medicine says, FeLV can be spread transplacentally from mother to offspring, but spread via nursing or grooming is more common. http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_feline_felv.shtml They don't reference any data for that. Sort of leaves you in a tough place if you have a know FeLV queen about to give birth, do the kittens already have it, or do you snatch them away as soon as they ar e born so they don't get it from milk or grooming? Hope that helps. Gary - Original Message - From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens i guess the question is this, tho i may be wrong: there is no point in testing for FIV until at least six months of age, because both the ELISA and western blot test antibodies, and kittens will show their MOM'S antibodies until (and often for two or three motnsh beyond) then. is the only reason that the article i just read said you can test for FeLV, which tests antigens instead of antibodies? why would the vet mentioned above then say 3 months is the best age? ; ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] info please
I hope this is correct...I had it saved James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support)http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page)Debbie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:06:45 -0400Subject: [Felvtalk] info please Hi, can someone tell me how to contact the moderator of the group? Thanks Lynne _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine
I have to say from my own personal experiences that you are correct, MC! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.
What wonderful news, Sue!! I have learned so much from everyone here already!!! Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:41:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list. I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork. He has gone from 8 when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18. It is because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life. He will be loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years! Thank you everyone! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat
I know they take FIV and many other health concerns, but I don't think they do Felv.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:17:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat Tabby's Place perhaps? http://www.tabbysplace.org/ Gloria On Aug 5, 2008, at 6:34 PM, JENI RECA wrote:Hi, Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat. Female, young (between 1-3 years old), tabby, will be spayed and up to date on vaxes before rehomed. The cat was abandoned at the shelter I work at, she tested positive on elisa and IFA and now needs to find a home in a week. She will be pts if I don't find her a place to go. I can not take her in, I have four feluk positives, three dogs and a husband that says no more, plus I can't afford to feed another cat. Willing to travel, you will also get food with her and a carrier. In the new york area...Please help Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:07:09 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list. Yipee!!! I am so happy for the good news. Junior started out anemic as well it was actually the first symptom that something was wrong. He was put on Baytril rather than doxy but for the same reason. His anemia got better. It was not as bad as Buzzy's. Great News. Sally Davis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] my Cole, help!
Kim, I am sorry you are going through this with your dear Cole...only you and your vet will know when it is time to let him go...I just lost my very first rescued babyhe was only 7...not nearly old enough to go! Warm, loving thoughts for you both. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:45:54 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] my Cole, help! I am afraid I am on the verge of losing my loved and adored kitty, Cole. I have had him for 6 1/2 years and we have had our ups and downs with some illnesses but nothing a little TLC and medicine couldn't handle. I got Cole when he was 5 months old from the Humane Society and about a week after adopting him I found out he was feline leukemia positive. The Humane Society said they would take him back and give me a new kitty. By that point my heart was completely in love with him and there was no turning back, I had to meet this challenge with strength and do all I had to take care of him. Up until this point I knew that he would make it through all of the colds, pneumonia's, gastro-intestinal issues, but now I am not sure anymore. He is not acting like he would normally when he is sick..no sneezing, coughing, breathing difficulties, or diarrhea. He just lays around all the time, doesnt seem to be eating much or drinking much. Wet food doesnt even make him happy! I have noticed that he is losing weight as well. I have an appointment with the vet today to get him checked out but I am scared that this will just be the beginning of the end. I am unsure of how far to let him go. I don't know if I should keep treating everything or if I should give up? The last thing I would ever want to do is prolong his life and make him suffer more just so I could have more time with him. Does anyone have any words of advice? I am new to this posting and I am afraid of losing one of the most important things in my life and I am not sure how to even go about dealing with any of it! Kim ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures and some fabulous non-related news!!!
This sounds like a perfect match...congratulations!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:21:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures and some fabulous non-related news!!! Well, I guess the lord truly does giveth and taketh away in a good ways sometimes! Just as I am struggling to deal with my returned foster suffering from seziures of unknown origin and reaching the height of my stress...I also have the best news I have had in a long time. My feleuk foster Manny has a home. A lady and her 14 yo son were coming to look at him tonight at 6:00 and I had not allowed myself to get excited about it b/c I am realistic. But they knew he had feleuk and still wanted to see him (tho they have never had a feleuk- had two cats that lived to be 18-20 that died a few months ago a few mths apart). The son needed time to grieve but has recently been asking for a cat. They just want 1 so a foster friend suggested my Manny b/c I'm desperate to get him home b/c I just don't have the set up for him to have much of a life here-- running out of rooms! They have already been screened by the organization I am adopting him thru or else they wouldn't have come to the house to see him. AND they are cousins by marriage of one of my fellow foster friends! Manny is the healthiest thing ever and he's flourished in my care-- he's all muscle, not an ounce of fat, vivacious, playful, tons of fun, and a complete alpha male who rules humans and dogs-- whomever he is given the opportunity to interact with!!! He's the smartest thing in this house and that includes the dogs- of which one is very bright-- but Manny takes the cake in the brains area. I love love love him and would so keep him if I hadn't already had non-feleuk fosters and house cats and in particular kitten fosters. So I didn't get my hopes up too much when they came to see him but they asked all the right questions about feleuk and I think they feel comfortable b/c they can rely on me and my experience since we will have a very open adoption! She is a nurse so she has a great base of knowledge for understanding his disease! I just want him to have a home so I have told them that I will help personally with vet bills so that he can have his red blood cells monitored every 6 months and should he ever get sick- with the treatment. The organization I am adopting him thru (I am working with another one on the side now that I am very happy with) helps with vet bills in all cases and will assist with his should he get sick! They said they were told by another rescuer/foster in the organization that they will just know the right cat for them when they see it and they said we just know it's him! I just can't believe I got my Manny a home I have a few days to spend with him to say goodbye so I can ease myself into it-- they want to clean the house for Manny and have to get a litterbox, etc. because they threw things out. I just can't even explain to you how happy I am but I know you all share my joy! Manny finally gets a young boy to PLAY WITH, an entire house to romp in, and windows to bird watch from ALL DAY (instead of just a few hours a day)! I couldn't possibly want more for him. Caroline _ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update
Caroline, looks like that precious baby has found his forever home with you! How lucky for both of you. Keep us updated, please.Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:16:42 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Seizures Update Here's an update on my adopted/returned foster cat with alleged seizures: By the time his appt rolled around yesterday with the vet of my choice, I knew it was going to go well. The more people I talked to about it, the more people said there was something wrong with those people at that house and having him out of there was the most important thing. But he's just gotten better and better. I have no trouble medicating him at all. Just those first few times. He's actually one of the easiest I've ever medicated now!! I haven't had a scratch or a bite yet and it goes super fast-- he's a good boy! The odd aggressive behavior is lessened. He totally trusts me already and is a complete love-bug. He is just a quirky, willful little thing and that's just his personality-- he wants to run around and be hyper and get into everything and so sometimes when I scoop him up, he does that growling, but it's funny/harmless. Most importantly, no seizures-- no signs of seizures. I've had him since Thursday and you'd think he never left me with the way he responds to me!So the vet saw a totally healthy, friendly, bright, Curious George Cat yesterday! He just walks all over the exam room, jumps in the doctor's lap and rolls around!, purrs, tries to get into everything! It's great to watch. Dr. said we have a very healthy cat and he can't believe those people said they were going to put him down! He said this is not a cat you even consider that with! He agrees there was possible abuse. But he also suggested that-- upon watching the cat's behavior in the exam room- that he is a cat who wants to get into everything so he thinks it's very possible the cat got into something- like a chemical- and the people- since they are so weird- just didn't know and overreacted. He said that's very possible and with the way that cats metabolize things so slowly, it might just take a while for him to work it out of his system and that could be why he maybe had continuing seizures (if he even had them). He said since there's been so seizures and the cat is happy, he doesn't want to change anything. Stay on the same dose of phenobarb for 1 mth. Then he wants to see him again in a month and they will take blood and get a phenobarb level at that time. Then we will work on taking him off it slowly and monitoring the level. He said if we start taking him off and he has a seizure- then we know he was having them, but at least we know that the phenobarb will control it. But Dr. said no signs of a neurological defect-- none at all. No need to even consider a catscan b/c there's just no signs-- totally alert and bright. He said if it was FIP, there'd be other neurological signs, like ataxia. But also, I don't know if I told you that?- adoptive parents vet called on sat- and everything negative- fip, toxo, felv, fiv- neg. Dr. confirmed too that blood work looks great. Good news all around! He's a happy, healthy, bouncing boy and I'm glad to have him back in my care! Thanks for everyone's input, care and concern! Caroline _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone
Laura, I am so very sorry for your loss; please don't beat yourself up...you did the very best you could! Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:24 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week. I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight
Kim, I am so sorry that Cole has lost his final battle. Bless you for your love and care of this special boy! You did a wonderful job. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:59:52 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight It is with great sadness that I have to say that my Cole has lost his fight. The last 2 weeks he has been recieving epogen shots two times a week and we found out today that the shots have not improved his anemia. He in fact got worse and his hemoglobin went down to 9% from 11% 2 weeks ago. He has also lost an addition 1lb in 3 days because he would not eat. It was the hardest thing ever to have to make the call in putting him to sleep or not, but he has been so lethargic and down the last couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good enough shape to even attempt any other treatment at this point. I wish I would have caught this earlier and maybe treatment would have been better. He had been living with Feline Leukemia since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so at least I was blessed with that time with him. Right now the hardest thing is to come home and not have him waiting at the door for me. I am praying that I made the right decision and didnt jump the gun on putting him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I knew that I was prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are having a special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that having Cole for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was my rock and was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to be there for him. Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it helped me make it through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you Cole. Kim ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing
Me, too! Loud and clear. Thanks for checking. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:28:29 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testingI see ya! James Been busy in the rescue world. I too noticed it was quiet...hope all is well too, that is a good sign! In a message dated 8/29/2008 10:05:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all, Haven't seen any activity on the list for a couple of days. So, I'm testing the list. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html)_http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!
Hooray for Tweezer!!!w00t!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:48:07 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] So Happy! Hello everyone! Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with him (Besides being positive) is a secondary infection! No liver stint. No blood parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis. He already looks so much better. His eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and no more watery stools. He actually was playing for the last day or so! Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! Dance!) Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today
Wendy, I am so sorry for your loss...Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:48:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today My little furbaby Jack-Jack crossed the bridge today. He had cancer and was not responding to treatment. We will miss him greatly. Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
I read all of the information...thanks, by the way...and I agree with you; I wouldn't put one of my little ones through chemo with such a bleak outlookjust love him all you can while he's still well enough to enjoy it! Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can.Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New to group
Hooray for her! How wonderful to get such good news...my Monday is now complete! Thanks for sharing with us. Sometimes things seem so depressingbut news like this brightens anyone's day!Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do (Edward Everett Hale) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:33:16 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 weeks. Same at 11 weeks. Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive again. All 3 were the Elisa test. Then our vet recommended the PCR test, which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate than the IFA. Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive. So it does happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...-Original Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola, the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month 0A helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yah oo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive
Hey MC...send me your phone # offline...I need to ask some important questions about a couple of female kittys I want to have spayed...pretty pleeze!Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:05:27 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive this is closer to what i would have said--wait to see if the cat is actually positive, and then weight the very real risks of NOT vaccinating against the potential ones of doing so. i follow dr dodd's recommendations myself, i just define sick differently, i guess. (tho i'm REALLY not happy about the new protocol for kittens--every 3-4 weeks of vaccines until they're FOUR MONTHS OLD?? to me, that's WAY too much..) MC On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our vet told us to hold off on both shots and spay surgery until the final diagnosis. It stresses their systems and makes them weak, thereby making it harder for them to fight off the disease... Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2008, at 2:29 PM, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sally, I personally would not vaccinate a positive cat. See Jean Dodds' and Charles Loop's (both vets) views here. (The paragraph below is taken from the website.) Kerry M. http://www.newsagepress.com/protectyourpet.html All packages of vaccinations carry warnings that they should be injected only in healthy animals. In the case of cats, vaccine manufacturers advise against vaccinating pregnant or nursing cats. However, many pets are not healthy when vaccinated although they might not have outward signs of health problems. Charles Loops, DVM, a holistic veterinarian from Pittsboro, North Carolina, notes that chemically killed viruses or bacteria are injected directly into the blood stream, which is an unnatural route of infection. (7) This causes the animal's antibodies to attempt to fight off the offending virus molecules and render them harmless. If the animal's immune system is too weakened, he or she cannot fight off these viruses and can develop a reaction to the vaccine. Even small amounts of a virus that is introduced through a vaccination may be too much for sick animals to fight off. They then may fall ill from the very disease to which they have been vaccinated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SALLY NORDSTROM Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive Another question. My kittens tested positive with the ELISA test. May they have their vaccines? Mom gets tested Friday. If positive, may she have her vaccines? May she be spayed? _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
My sister's cat had stomatitis...partial extraction donehe did fine with the missing teeth, but had occasional flareups that were treatedsteroids and I'm sorry I can't remember the antibiotic...clindamyacin?Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:04:32 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Tweezer may have a nasal polyp or something simple...hopefully. If he is having trouble breathing through his nose (cats are obligate nasal breathers) get him seen by someone asap. I have an orange tabby, Kirby, who has had these problems since birth...and I occasionally have to use saline drops or (when it gets green) put him on antibiotics. He is now 7 and does well...I just have to keep a close eye on him.Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:55:30 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood My two year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer has been sneezing blood for a few days. (At first we didn't know where it was coming from, we were just seeing tiny blood droplets on the floor.) Last night we saw what was happening. He sounds a little stuffy, but he has sounded that way since we got him. My problem is that my usual vet who is good with my positive kittys is on vacation until the 24th of November. I personally consider the associates in his practice to be less then adequate for a positive kittys specail problems. I am trying to decide if I should wait for my usual vet (Possibly start Tweezer on some Doxycycline in the mean time), take them to one of the other vets in the practice and hope that this problem is something they can handle, or maybe take him to an internist I have been to before with one of my other cats. I guess it all depends on why this is happening to him. Has anyone ever had a cat sneeze blood droplets? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties
I agree with Sally...not only would that deprive us of their affections, however short, it also deprives these precious babies of the love they need and deserve, too. Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:52:49 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties Amber, I'm sorry to hear about baby Parker. One thing that everyone needs to keep in mind all the time - every living thing on this earth will someday die. Nobody knows when or how, and to deprive ourselves of love and affection even for a day, because of what may or may not happen today or tomorrow is a slap in the face to life and love itself.--- On Tue, 11/25/08, Amber Gilewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Amber Gilewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 1:43 PM Hello everyone,I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of you in advance for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV positive cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I knew their lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give them a happy, comfortable life before they left this world. Some friends and family members have given us grief over purposely adopting these sick kitties. I've heard things to the effect of You'll be sad when they die to You're keeping a healthy cat from having a home. But I didn't (and still don't care) what the naysayers have to say. I know that I'm doing a good service to these cats that otherwise would be euthanized before they needed to be or would be without a loving home. Someone (who was in my corner) told me that she worked at a shelter once and no one would even play with the FeLV cats, let alone adopt them. This solidified my belief for the need of loving homes of these forgotten felines! Their happiness is more important than my sadness, as profound as it may be. I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we got more recently in September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death as he suddenly collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. It was late at night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. Other vet services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his last few breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but couldn't). But he died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he didn't die alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :(Our other cat, Neo is doing great! He's not showing any symptoms, has put on weight since we got him, and has a strong appetite! I recently read about LTIC/Imulan and told my vet about it. He didn't know too much about it as it's a newer medication, but I asked him to order some for Neo. It's quite expensive, but if I would have known about it sooner I would have tried it on little baby Parker to help him. Since Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what effect it will have on him, but I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as we can for as long as we can. I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this with their cat and could tell me how it works out. Also, did your cat have any symptoms before or were they asymptomatic before starting treatment?Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your beloved cats!Amber _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA.
I am so glad all of the hard work being done is finally getting something done up there! Keep up the good work!Debbie (COL)The time is alway right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: tatorb...@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:00:52 -0500 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA. Hi everyone, I'm sure by now you have heard of all the different raids of the puppy mills here in Washington. We are rank 1st in Puppy Mills as I hate to say. I've been waiting a long time for this to happen. Finally after years something has been done. I live about 4 miles from the first raid. There are 3 different people involved with this. A mother and 2 daughters possibly an aunt as well. Mind you these people live in very nice homes. So they made their money from the puppies/dogs. The first raid consisted of 155 dogs/puppies of the small breeds, 4 cats, 6 large dogs, and a few birds. City of Goldbar. Second raid consisted of over 100 dogs/puppies. City of Snohomish. Third raid had over 400 dogs/puppies, few cats, livestock and horses that were extremely underweight. City of Mount Vernon. Many of these dogs are being sheltered in the local shelters and foster homes (Everett/Mount Vernon) and the fairgrounds in Skagit County. Some have been euthanized there was nothing the Vets could do because they were beyond medical help. They are all matted and have sores all over their bodies. Many of them have defects that comes with inner breeding. Malnourished and underweight. They had to live in their own waste. I've seen some of these dogs it made me want to puke because of the smell and the sight of them. It made me so mad that I wanted to kill these breeders for allowing this to h appen to these innocent animals. Mind you this is a family ran business. Sorry, I don't have the direct links right now. If you pull up the news and newspapers for WA. it will show some of what has happened regarding these raids. Not all information will be displayed. I don't need to read or hear as I know what's been happening but nothing could be done. Let's hope and pray some good and justice will come out of this for the dogs/puppies sakes. Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list
Me, too!!Debbie (COL)The time is alway right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:51:39 -0600 From: kmacken...@mayerbrown.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list Your email reached me, James--thanks for checking, hope you're well too. Best, Kerry M. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] testing the list Hey all, Just testing the list since there's been no activity since Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
I don't mean to intrude here, but what type of gel did you get for the stomatitis?Debbie (COL)The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:49 + From: pebble...@yahoo.it To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes
Call their office and tell them you want the NAME of the medication and the dosage strength,they CAN'T not tell you! It's your animal, and your money-this is your right.Debbie (COL)The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:26:18 -0500 From: fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the bathroom rug just over a week ago. I figured out who was doing it on Saturday and got him in to the vet on Monday. They tested his urine and blood and the vet called me today with the results. She said his liver enzymes are elevated and his white cell levels are high. She is going to put him on an antibiotic and re-do the tests in two weeks. (When I asked the name of the anti-biotic she side stepped the question and just said is is a pill wrapped in foil. I am currently looking for another vet because there is only one vet in this practice that I fully trust and it is very hard to get to see him.) Anyway, can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated? The advise I have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the advise from this particular vet in the past, so I would very much appreciate any input. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My Mickey
Viky, we mourn with you for the loss of your sweet baby! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:50:43 -0600 From: vdiga...@dss.state.la.us To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My Mickey In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio sarcoma which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read was bad. He had the first tumor removed on 10-13-08. It came back this time two tumors and they were removed on 1-6-09. This surgery was very, very difficult on him to get over. Then on 2-13-09 the vet discovered it had come back even more rapidly than the first time. x-rays showed nothing in the lungs or spleen but the liver was hard to see though not enlarged. This past Monday he stopped eating and drinking and I knew it was time. The next morning I took my heart disguised as a little 7 pound black and white angel to the vet for the final time. The night before I laid him on the bed next to me and he stared into my face purring for hours. The cancer had spread to his liver and I knew I could not stand for him be in pain. Before I took him to the vet I wrapped him in his cat blanket and walked him all over the yard so he could see his ducks and feel the air on his face. He loved to be outside. So from start to finish he lived 19 weeks from diagnosis. This is a deadly, aggressive cancer and I hope none of you experience it with your babies. I had my little man for 8 years and 7 months and they were worth every minute. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters
I have to say that my FIV cat lived 6 years after his diagnosisand none of my other twelve indoor cats ever contracted it. Also, Spike lived a very healthy life until the last couple of days...I wouldn't trade anything for the time we had. I take care of a feral colony, also...all TNR'ed and vaccinated. Just because these cats were abandoned or born outside doesn't mean they need to die. TNR works! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:54:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanizing FELV+ cats in shelters Do they hold and re-test? Cats with FIV can live a normal lifespan. Ethically, killing cats who test initially positive or even confirmed positive but who are not suffering is wrong on so many levels. Maybe they need to look up the definition of euthanasia. We had a Cat Management Forum last September and a volunteer took some pretty good notes from Dr. Christine Wilford of the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project in Washington State - check it out here: http://www.pawsofpa.org/new/join_the_team.php?p=72 And the Feral Cat Spay/Neuter Project website here: http://www.feralcatproject.org/ Any reasonable person/people should be willing to listen to the most reputable veterinary scientists on this subject - not only does it include Dr. Wilford but Dr. Julie Levy - whose articles are referenced in Dr. Wilford's presentation. Dr. Julie Levy has a site here: http://www.ufsheltermedicine.com/meetTeam_Levy.html She runs Operation Catnip at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can do a Google search on the subjects or even contact the veterinarians and ask their advice to medical information. Anita Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies kittens. Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply because they did not have a home. Every puppy or kitten born costs a shelter animal its life. Save lives, spay-neuter, support Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) adopt for life! Visit http://www.castawaycritters.org/info/display?PageID=153 for information on Spay/Neuter in Mid-Central PA Visit http://www.alleycat.org and http://www.neighborhoodcats.org for info on humane control of free roaming cats Visit http://www.pawsofpa.org for information on spay/neuter clinics and resources in south-central PA Join the Yahoo! Group for feral free roaming cats http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feralcatsinsouthcentralpa/ _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
Just be sure to pay them before that year...otherwise the interest rate is astronomical! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org CC: fs...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list. reL finances and caring for kitties, has anyone else heard of Care Credit? i fuond out about it from my dentist and it can be used for glasses, dental work, vets and even plastic surgery. the vet collects the charges until they reach at least $300.00 and then sends charges to Care Credit. you have a year to pay it off with no interest. you only pay interest if you take more than i year to complete payment. it has helped me out with my babies because i like to get a complete blood profile and urinealysis (?) on each one so we have a base line to start from. also helps when i have to get shots for all 5 at same time. dorlis Sue Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to want to care for a beloved kitty when they want no part of it. My sweet gentle Tucker used to go absolutely ballistic whenever I tried to give him a pill. Sometimes I think it is kinder to choose the least threatening or invasive ways to help a sick kitty. Some would much rather be gently let go in their own time with dignity then to have procedures forced upon them that might lengthen their lives but would make them extremely unhappy. Your best choice may be feeding him the highest quality food you can find. (I like Wellness Core canned food.) And making sure there is little or no stress in his life. Best wishes for as much quality time as possible with Grrr. You picked such a great name for a feisty cat! Sue Amy Ackerman swa...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the welcome kind words, Gary Laurie. My vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support! _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Feeling Guilty
We do what we CAN...and it hurts to realize we cannot save every one. I don't think the guilt ever goes away, but it does help to remember the story of the boy and the starfish.every one we save matters. Be gentle with yourself...I know exactly how you are feelingand so do many others. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:23:57 -0500 From: martinj...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Feeling Guilty when you have to turn away FeLv cats because you rescued one to many, does the feeling of guilt ever go away. I was going to take a cat from NY but had an emergency rescue of one who was going to be put to sleep. I had to tell this person that I can't take the cat. We are getting our last one from Indiana, that has been planned for months. I worry about being reported to the ASPCA for having too many cats. We currently have 13, plus 1 from indiana makes 14. I wish I could rescue them all. In 2-3 years, when we get more financialy stable, we are going to convert a house that we are currently renting, into a cattery so I can rescue more cats. But for now we run it out of our home, which is large, but is getting over run by cats. Any advice or words of comfort is appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto
That is wonderful news! I hope he continues to improve for you. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:53:53 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Hello all,I am happy to report that Pluto is back at Sids and feeling much better!! I brought his favorite treats(Temptations) on Monday but he was sick at the clinic so I didn't hand them out,so tonight he will have his treats!! I always hand out 2 or 3 bags of them.They ALL love Temptations.Thank you all for your good wishes!! :) Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list
Gloria, you blessed his life by giving him the love he deserved...he blessed your life by sharing his time on earth with you. I am so sorry for your loss. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:43:10 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Bob to the bridge list Bob was a wonderful little gray tabby FELV boy that I took in from a couple here who rescue cats. He was found at a truck stop on the highway, all alone, last November, and such a sweetie! But then he tested positive for FELV. The folks who brought him to me were just devastated, just loved him so much, as I did. They thought he was not quite a year old, and we were all hoping he'd make it longer. Bob was fine - eating heartily, playful - until March. He became lethargic and the vet said he was severely anemic. He got a blood transfusion, and was on prednisone, pettinic, etc. But just couldn't make it back from his sickness. He died the early morning of March 17, 2009, and with St Patrick's help went to the Rainbow Bridge where he was greeted by all our other sweet feline kitties. Sleep soft sweet Bob. Gentle thoughts to all of you who have lost little ones, it helps so much having others out there. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] CLS - Angel Kathy - Non FELV
Thirteen years? Wow, she was a great momI personally applaud her and all she did for this kitty/ Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:04:33 -0500 From: moonv...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] CLS - Angel Kathy - Non FELV Kathy is one of my friends' kitties. She crossed the bridge last week due to end stage cancer and renal failure. She had been blind since birth and they had her operated on to form eyelids so the fur would not stick to her eyes. She also had some other birth defects. Despite her living 13 years of course my friend blames herself. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help with medical expenses for two very special kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROM GREECE PLEASE
Marcel, there are many wise people here I am sure they will give you the answers you need. Good luck with your cats! Debbie The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:22:16 + From: marcelwal...@yahoo.gr To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEED HELP FROM GREECE PLEASE Hello and Greetings from Greece, We need help from the experts, pls. Before 2 weeks we've found out that 2 of our cats are FELV + It was an ELISA bloodtest (this are the only ones here in Greece) Now we wrote and talked with so many people but this made us more confused, because we have one tomcat here (so 3 cats in the home) which is 9 years old and he was tested Negative. Everyone tells us something different , one time they say that we shouldnt give our negative tomcat a vaccency-injection for the FELV because it can be dangerous in his age and that he will not get FELV now and another one tells that we should go asap to give him the injection. To explain it: We took a stray cat before one year in our house, he was sleeping sometimes inside and had contact with our both cats. One our little cat girl got FELV but the older tomcat not. We want to help them but dont know what is now the best to protect at first the old tomcat and what we can do with the both infected cats ? Because here you cant get INTERFERON etc. also you get here only the standard cat food like whiskas, Felix, Gourmet. Please can help some expert here, what we should do now with our lovely old tomcat that he gets not infected and what we can do that we help the both infected cats?/ Thank you very much Marcel ___ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n' drop-Get easy photo sharing with Windows LiveT Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
First off, I'd like to thank you for keeping this little one despite all of your other demands. Then, has your vet done any fecal testing? Maggie could possibly only need some antibiotic or antiparasitic... Other than that, the wonderful people here will tell you to feed her a good quality diet and keep her life as stress free as possible. Your kitten could conceiveably live a good, long life. Best of luck to you and your family. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:05:57 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn and work and times get hectic, sorry. We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 years old as well. My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr
Amy, I can't remember now...but, has he been checked for hyperthyroidism? If he is eating that much and still not gaining weightjust curious. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: swa...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:00:21 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Supplements for Grrr Thanks for all the ideas and advice. I had thought of kitten food but thought it best to steer clear for the reasons mentioned- concern about kidney function- as we are already worried about that. The dang cat eats just FINE- he eats like a horse, and is easily eating twice what the other two are, maybe combined. I'm wary of getting into another bought of testing to determine why he's eating so much and still wasting away- see my previous thread. Very hard to do lots of intensive vet work with this cat. I'm going to try baby food as I think we'll be able to add it to his 'normal' rations without issue. He's still king of the roost- hardly has to look at the other two and they scatter to the wind. I think baby food will be viscous enough for him to nosh in one go with the dry. We have also begun giving him bits of chicken throughout the day- if he didn't think he was special before.. well, now his crown is almost visible. Thanks again all-Amy _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm?
duhI meant to say under sedation for surgerygeez, what a maroon... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:31:16 +0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm? Kerry, when I was MUCH younger, vets would tell you that cats couldn't get heartworms...but I have seen for myself that it is possible. I have not used Revolution, but the spay/neuter clinic routinely uses it for every animal they put under for sedation. I do keep my cats on Frontline and Advantage...wouldn't that kill any mosquito borne parasite as well? Curious kittens arecurious. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:41:21 -0700 From: kerrymacken...@ymail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Heartworm? Dear all, Just received this from my vet's clinic. My first instinct is no, but I would welcome your thoughts on the necessity for all-year-round Revolution? Thanks! Kerry M. Feline Heartworm Update: Dear Pet Owner, April 2009 A new study from Auburn University has indicated that heartworm disease in cats is a far bigger issue than previously thought. Cats can get heartworm infection through the simple bite of an infected mosquito. Studies have shown: Indoor cats are just as susceptible to infection when mosquitoes enter our home. Once bitten, immature heartworms are transmitted and the heartworm lifecycle begins. The larval worms then start their journey through the body, ultimately affecting the heart, blood vessels and lungs. A cat's body is designed to respond and kill foreign invaders, including heartworm larvae before they develop into adults. As the cat's body responds, the intense inflammatory reaction causes severe damage to the lung tissue. This disease state is clinically recognized as Heartworm Associated Respiratory Disease or H.A.R.D. Once this damage to the lung tissue occurs, it is not reversible and there is no treatment to remove the adult heartworms from a cat. With this new information we are now recommending ALL CATS be put on Revolution year round. Revolution is a broad spectrum parasiticide that in addition to preventing heartworm also prevents intestinal parasites, ear mites and fleas. Please contact us if you would like to discuss prevention for your cat. Sincerely, The Doctors and Staff at Roscoe Village Animal Hospital ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] patience
I would recommend that you give her time to recover from all of the traumathen, by all means, spay her. If everything else (besides the felv) looks good, spay her... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:22:11 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] patience ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted messages. now working on important ones (250). please be patient if i answer things our of order and out of date. also just got another furbaby. she showed up around 5 days ago, looking pitiful, only a 3 tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you ever saw. bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her to my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could not bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay. well, she has felv, a slight urinary infection. but her tail is doing well. he thinks a coyote or something made a grab for her and bit her tail off. she is so sweet, i can't imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for herself. well, she is working in with the others nicely. no one has killed anyone yet. QUESTION, SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT. vet says can't do anything until out of heat. i almost have to spay her or she will never be able to go out for fear of having kittens. he said most likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + also. i think i remember conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties. we think she is around 3 years. NEED ADVICE SPAY OR NOT is it safe with her being felv+? we are doing the best test to be double sure and a complete blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also to get a (normal) base for future reference. OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY. dorlis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stray
If the babies aren't crying like they are in distress, and they are moving about with a normal amount of energy, then give momma another day or socolostrum comes in prior to the milkand it is all they need until then. IF you are truly worried, you could offer them a teeny bit of KMR from a syringe...just be careful that they don't aspirate it. I am fostering a feral momma and babies right nowduring a very protracted birthing time (which finally meant a trip to an emergency vet and a shot of pitocin), I took the firstborn and gave it a supplemental nursing...just to get it settled down so momma could birth it's siblings! It sounds like you are doing an outstanding job...trust your instincts. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: sheila...@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:29:45 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray Hello all . I haven't posted in a while but have been reading everyday. All of my positives are healthy and happy, but on April fools day I had a stray cat come to my front door . I brought her in fed her and two hours later she gave birth to three beautiful healthy kittens. When I was petting the momma this morning I rubbed her stomach and it feels like she has no milk in her breast. The kittens are fat little butterballs and are not crying from hunger. Is this normal or should I be concerned. My vet is closed on Thursday and the next vet is fifty miles away. I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to be a nervous nelly if the babies are just drinking the milk as fast as she makes it. Sheila in SC **Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029082x1201385915/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213969145%3B35701480%3Bh) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stray
Also, just to add to the good advice, I offer dry and wet food at all times Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:34:02 -0700 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stray For right now I would say this is normal, the kittens have drained their mother of the current supply of milk. Put the mother cat on a Premium Kitten Food, Royal Canin Baby Cat is what I have used in the past. Make sure the mother cat has plenty of water to drink. If she will drink it give her a saucer of KMR, to help here gain what she needs to feed her kittens. Sam From: sheila...@aol.com sheila...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:29:45 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray Hello all . I haven't posted in a while but have been reading everyday. All of my positives are healthy and happy, but on April fools day I had a stray cat come to my front door . I brought her in fed her and two hours later she gave birth to three beautiful healthy kittens. When I was petting the momma this morning I rubbed her stomach and it feels like she has no milk in her breast. The kittens are fat little butterballs and are not crying from hunger. Is this normal or should I be concerned. My vet is closed on Thursday and the next vet is fifty miles away. I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to be a nervous nelly if the babies are just drinking the milk as fast as she makes it. Sheila in SC **Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029082x1201385915/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213969145%3B35701480%3Bh) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Laura, bravo for finding a different vet! And a huge HOORAY for Miss Charlotte Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:02:26 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Laura, believe me when I say that many of us are in the same financial boat! But I wouldnt do anything different...these babies are MY responsibility, and I will do everything I can for them. I'm glad Charlotte is feeling better...don't worry, she'll eat more as she improves. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:05:58 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte I've thought about checking it out, but I've met a few people who have been turned down by Care Credit lately for no obvious reason. I suppose the rotting posts on the front porch won't be fixed this year, and forget about painting the dining room. That's the most I've ever spent in one day on a vet visit. And that's in addition to the $600 spent last week on Tabby's teeth cleaning, Charlotte's initial exam, testing and meds and 2 neuters. Charlotte already is more active and is walking around the turtle room. She still isn't eating as much as I'd like, but she just seems so more normal now. And I really liked the vet we saw yesterday (Dr Michael Ray at the Cat Clinic of Roswell in Roswell, GA, for all you Georgians on the list). I think we've found a new vet. --- On Sun, 4/19/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:06 AM Laura, hang in there as long as you can and if they have Care Credit in your area, try it instead of Visa. you don't have to pay interest if you pay it off wihtin a year. you can reach them at www.geoonlineservice.com or 1-866-893-7864. they have gotten me thru a couple of $600.00 bills and a big dental bill. i don't know if they are in your area or your vet uses them, but would be worth a try. dorlis Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really? Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte
Heheheheheohai, MC! Are you all settled in? Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:17:28 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte good to know you feel that way, mom--will make sure there's a DNR order in your file! 2009/4/20 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com LOL, I have actually made that kind of reply to people before...Really? Well, if you ever get sick, I'll just have you put down to save moneythanks!... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Charlotte Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the circumstances. Don't let her get you down. You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very lucky cat and she knows it. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote: I brought Charlotte back to the vet yesterday. She still wasn't doing well, just nibbling at her food and appearing very lethargic. Since I wasn't especially happy with my vet's response to her, I tried another clinic that I'd heard good things about, just to get a second opinion. Dr. Ray took more blood and told me that Charlotte was indeed very anemic - her PCV was 9% versus about 40% for a healthy young adult cat. So I was a little ticked off that my regular vet didn't tell me just how anemic she was, and a week had gone by when something else could have been done. The vet was concerned about tumors but X-rays showed nothing. He recommended that a blood transfusion be done immediately, so he packed up his 22 pound donor cat and I brought both cats to North Fulton emergency center since they were just down the road Dr Ray's office was closing for the day. I picked Charlotte up at 11:30 last night (lots of coffee was needed since it was an hour and a half drive) and she was so hungry! She started chowing down right away. She now has doxycycline and Prednisilone twice a day. Now we just have to wait for the rest of the test results to come back. I'll keep you all updated. Thank goodness for Visait was almost $900 yesterday. My mom asked me, Why didn't you just put her down? but I couldn't. She doesn't want to die. She's purring and rolling over to be petted and even yesterday when she didn't feel good she was going up to everybody and looking for attention. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss... Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:47:59 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Please add to CLS :( I know I have asked for prayers for this wonderful soul lately.Well today he lost his battle to this aweful disease.Pooty Poots was one of my special boyfriends.I know I have many and will have many more,but sometimes certain ones steal an extra space in your heart.This was one of them.Pluto was a shy handsome tiger boy.I won him over with Temptations treats and love.And he won me over with the trust he had in me.Rest in peace baby boy,you are now with your mom Juno and brother Jupiter. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on!
Thanks, Belinda!! I forwarded it on to everyong I know who has pets. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:49:35 -0700 From: ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Important - please read, be aware and pass it on! * Here we go again:* The Food and Drug Administration is looking into a series of pet deaths and illnesses, possibly connected with Nutro Foods. Nutro Foods makes both dog and cat foods sold under brand names Nutro Max, Nutro Natural Choice and Nutro Max Cat. The company has set up a hot line for consumers to call with their concerns -- 800-833-5330. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30331337/ I'm getting really leery of the good foods!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS
Sharyl, I am so sorry for your lossHoudini was blessed to have had you for her short stay in this world. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:51:51 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Houdini to the next CLS My dear sweet little girl Houdini died today. She was just 10 months old. Test positive twice but never had any symptoms. For the last couple of days she meowed when I picked her up. This little girl loved to be held and petted. Since I have 8 house cats, I thought perhaps a bite or sprain but could find any evidence of an injury. Yesterday she started breathing kind of heavy so today we headed to the vet, a 45 minute drive. She stopped meowing a couple of miles away from the vet's office. I thought she had finally gotten used to the ride. Didn't know she was dead until I got into the vets office. I'm still in shock. Bright Eyes had failed over several weeks. I just didn't think I wouldn't be coming home with her. She loved to sit on the desk beside the computer while I was on line. When I sat down on the sofa she immediately got in my lap. She just loved to be loved. I will sorely miss her. I am just grateful I was able to have her love for as long as I did. I rescued her and her litter mates from a dumpster site when she was 4 weeks old. She earned her name because she was the only one of the 4 that could escape from the crate I had them in. Please add her to the next CLS. Sharyl Sissy Rocket CJ Mattie and all my Angels ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
Laura, I have known too many folks who have had unusual experiences for me to doubt what you said! I am so glad that you are coping well with the losswe are holding you and Charlotte in our hearts. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:50:28 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS This is what's so strange. I'm not a religious or even a spiritual person, at all. But after I felt that overwhelming peacefulness - and this is where it really gets weird - the air in front of me changed. The only way I can describe it is to say it sort of smoothed over, or glassed over. And then it changed color. It had a green tint. And then everything dissipated and was gone. I told my co-workers about it today, expecting to be ridiculed, but surprisingly, everyone took me seriously. Alison told me that after her 14 year old dog died, she had the body cremated. It took 2 weeks for the ashes to come back. During that 2 weeks she both saw and heard that dog in the house. When she finally brought the ashes back to the house, she saw a plume of black smoke whoosh through the house and disappear. She never saw her dog again after that. I buried Charlotte in the fern garden. But I know she's not really there. I will miss her so much, but at least she went quickly. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed
Amy, I am so sorrythis disease sucks. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:58:34 -0700 From: ajdalgli...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Zuckerman has crossed My Zman lost his fight today. He is my 6th in the past 9 months. I know that it is to be expected when you take in sickly street kids, but it doesn't help with the pain of losing any one of these wonderful creatures. . Zuckerman was a 2 week old kitten with a horrible URI when I found him. He quickly became a momma's boy, going to work with me during the day and holding paws through the carrier door at night. Once old enough to graduate from the carrier, he became quite the snuggler, curling up at my neck during the night. He loved to suckle earlobes and would launch himself off a piece of furniture onto any unsuspecting person who happened by in order to attach himself to one. I told him that he would have to stop because we couldn't have a 12 pound adult catapulting himself onto everyone. Guess I don't have to worry about that now, he was only 8 months old and less than 4 pounds at the end. We were holding paws when he left. It's been said before by all of us and unfortunately I know it will be said many more times, but I hate this freaking disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
Get a new vet...right away! Poor babykeep up the assisted feeding and let us know what the bloodwork shows! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:02:52 + Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away Hi everyone, Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them before leaving on Thursday). The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I syringe-fed her a wet food water slurry before rushing over to the vet where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly. Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. Thanks, Giselle _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Add CJ to the CLS
Sharyl, I am so sorry for your loss...knowing they are no longer sick is cold comfort at first, I know. Just remember how your life was blessed to have him with you. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 16:34:51 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Add CJ to the CLS I had to have CJ (Captain Jack Sparrow) PTS this morning. I had taken him to the vet Monday and she dx anemia from the FeLV. In spite of assist feeding and B12 supplements he faded. Went downhill fast Friday and showed signs of distress Friday night. With the holiday week end I just couldn't wait any longer. CJ was one of 4 dumpster babies I rescued last summer. They were just 4 weeks old. I have since TNR'd their Momma. CJ was the loving-est little boy. He would sleep under my chin and purr me to sleep every night. No idea how I'll get to sleep tonight. Every time I sat down he was in my lap for hugs and petting. Out of all the cats I've had he was the sweetest. I know he is in a better place. It's just hard to lose any of them but even harder with the special ones. I just have Mattie, who is blind, left out of this litter. She is my adventurer. Goes where no kitty in their right mind would go. She is also FeLV+ and currently asymptomatic. I pray I'll have her for a long time. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grace
Sherry, my prayers to little Grace.and to you. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:13:40 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Grace I am asking for prayers for sweet little Grace.I just recieved an e-mail that she is in very bad shape with a high fever and just not well.she was fune Monday when I was there,but we all know what horrible things can arise with FELV.I HATE this disease!! I have watch SO MANY beautiful babies die from this,my heart breaks EVRY time. Please keep her in your thoughts.I believe she is with Dr Jen tonight. Thank you Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie
Giselle, yes-when we love them so deeply, the loss is inconsolable...for a long time. It's been more than a year since I lost my Baby Ruben, and I still mourn him...but now that grief is tempered with memories of him as a teenie baby doing all sorts of silly things...and I can smile. I hope and pray your heart continues to heal and that one day you will smile again. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King From: gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 21:39:29 + Subject: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie Hi everyone. I really, really appreciate the support and wisdom this group has provided over the last 3 years -- when strange things were happening (frothy clear vomit, a non-dilating pupil) and I didn't know what to do, and especially during the scary and sad days surrounding Pixie's death. This listserv is an example of the internet at its finest, bringing together a warm virtual community of FeLV cat guardians from across the globe. You gave me the courage to adopt FeLV+ Pixie in the first place, when I was only a foster parent to her and had no previous experience with + cats. It's been two weeks without Pixie. Grief feels like a private hell but apparently I'm going through all the normal stages. I was in bad shape when I went to pick up her ashes and the woman at the crematorium asked if Pixie had lived a long life. I could barely reply that she was still a baby when this disease snatched her. But once I got her urn home and put it on the mantle, which was one of her favorite places to perch, I felt strangely relieved: the awful business of deterioration, dying and death was over. I attached her collar tag to my keys (the jingling sound of which made Pixie come running from any corner of the house in the hope she'd get to go outside). I miss her 100 times day. I'm comforted to know that many of you have survived the loss of a beloved cat and have eventually come to love new cats. Onwards and upwards, Giselle _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Champ Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorryI freakin hate this disease! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:55:44 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Champ Please add to the CLS :( Well Gracie is still doing a bit better,But sweet Champ lost his battle today.He was a quiet shy gray and white boy.He never caused any trouble and was always happy.Thank you . Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tiger Lily,Adam,Cherry and Grace
Please tell Dr. Jen how much WE appreciate all she doesI'm so sorry things are so difficult for all of you right now. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:02:27 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tiger Lily,Adam,Cherry and Grace Well I am asking for an overload of prayers and good thoughts from you wonderful people. Dr. Jen sent us a LONG e-mail about poor Champ and these other 4.TigerLily was fostered out to a volunteer and she still is just not doing well. Cherry our SWEET one eyed girl is in a bad way too. ADAM,this is one of my boyfriends from Sids(yes I have many I know) Adam is a special boy I have been worried about him all week,I thought he was getting better but he is not.If he does not show a sign of improvement tomorrow she will have to let him go. Grace is actually the one out of all of them that just might make a recovery,still not quite out of the water but hopeful. Dr. Jen had a very emotionally draining day and my heart goes out to her.But then she has to come home and break all the bad new to us. :( So please think good thoughts for her too. THank you all Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Jody, I am so sorry Darcy lost her fightbut I am so grateful that her short life was blessed by having your love. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:32:28 -0700 From: jbutler5...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry Tigerlily lost her fight...please let Dr Jen know how much we appreciate what she does for these little ones. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:08:12 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
Mine will be something like She loved cats...but tolerated people Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:57:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... thanks to emily and laurie for these posts; i have been thinking of my eventual obit, as i read all the wonderful things people put in the paper (i've moved back to my home town, and find myself not only reading the obits, but KNOWING the folks written about, scary.) i've decided i want mine to say something honest, like, she was really a pain in the neck to those humans who didn't know her well, but has been joyously welcomed home by the thousands of cats whose lives she encountered. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank You for posting this Emily, it touched my heart. Liz. From: emilyofw...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... ...most gentle thoughts. It is the nature of a list like this that there is constant loss to deal with, and the fiftieth one is no easier than the first. But with each story, I am struck by the remarkable people here, who did not choose the easy way out and put a cat to sleep simply because he or she tested positive. There is a lot of grief here, but a lot of love as well. The kitties waiting for us all at the Bridge were blessed to find human families who saw the value in them despite the dread diagnosis. -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
GMTA, my dear, that's why! Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:02:54 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... why am i not surprised, old pal, old friend? 2009/6/3 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com: Mine will be something like She loved cats...but tolerated people Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:57:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... thanks to emily and laurie for these posts; i have been thinking of my eventual obit, as i read all the wonderful things people put in the paper (i've moved back to my home town, and find myself not only reading the obits, but KNOWING the folks written about, scary.) i've decided i want mine to say something honest, like, she was really a pain in the neck to those humans who didn't know her well, but has been joyously welcomed home by the thousands of cats whose lives she encountered. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Elizabeth Paz mothernatur...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank You for posting this Emily, it touched my heart. Liz. From: emilyofw...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... ...most gentle thoughts. It is the nature of a list like this that there is constant loss to deal with, and the fiftieth one is no easier than the first. But with each story, I am struck by the remarkable people here, who did not choose the easy way out and put a cat to sleep simply because he or she tested positive. There is a lot of grief here, but a lot of love as well. The kitties waiting for us all at the Bridge were blessed to find human families who saw the value in them despite the dread diagnosis. -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dani Please add to the CLS :(
Dr Jen is my hero...what a heartbreaking year this has been so far...but we can never give up hope, right? Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:33:12 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dani Please add to the CLS :( Ok now this is just plain heartbreaking.I just found out tonight that sweet little Dani (Dani girl) lost to this disgusting disease.Ok so how much heartbreak are we supposed to take all at once?? Cherry and Grace are still foghting the good fight. Dani was a dainty sweet Tortie.She will be missed. Please keep Dr Jen in your prayers,she is especially having it rough.Not only is she battling the felvs right now but several Crash cats are too very ill.We lost a Crash cat too this week.Patton was a sweet big black boy.She is also trying to save a couple other Crash cats that are very ill.It is really adding up the medical bills.I am trying to think of some way to help out with some of them.She puts her heart soul and money into these wonderful animals.Thanks for your prayers.Sorry for all the sad news in the past week,I hope you dont kick me off the list. :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Good news for a change from ME :)
What exciting news...we definitely needed something to smile about here! Fingers crossed for continued health and happiness!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:16:17 -0700 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Good news for a change from ME :) I worked my shift at Sids tonight and our beautiful Grace was there and looking GREAT!!! She followed me around talking to me.I gave her MANY kisses from me and from all of YOU!! Thanks for the prayers. :) Lets hope our little tortie girl keeps feeling so good. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing
Amy, I am so sorryI have stayed on the sidelines during this because I knew others were far more knowledgeable...Godspeed, little Maverickyou were loved, and touched many lives. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:09:08 -0700 From: awilkin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing His name is Maverick. He woke up this morning with a yellow color and has let us know he's had enough. We just returned from the vet and he had a peaceful passing. Amy --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:45 AM Poor guy. What is his name? Please keep us posted. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat crashing Yeah, the vet does know about it. He threw it up and she said that means it was recently ingested. She said we can look at his belly today if we want but she said she felt while we were there and his belly felt fine. I read, and so did she, that one of the main reasons cats eat litter is because of anemia and we already know that's going on. I've lost the majority of my leuk positives over the years the same way. Either anemisa or tumors. We do full blood workups every 6 months to try to keep an eye on anemia but I've never been able to bring one back yet once the hematocrit starts dropping quickly. I expected him to live longer because I've lost most of my guys with hematocrits between 7-13 and his is 23. This guy is fading, though, and I think he's probably had enough. I'm just trying to decide if I want to do bloodwork and radiographs or if I want to just let him go peacefully without disturbing him any further. I have no doubt that the leukemia has just taken it's toll on him :( He also has Bartonella and despite numerous treatments, has not been able to shake it. We couldn't figure it out because any other cats I've treated have responded quite well. This guy's numbers actually got worse after treatment so I'm thinking his body just doesn't have the means to cope with fighting it off. Amy I would be real concerned with clumping litter if he ate any, you know what it does when it gets wet. Does the vet know about that? I have heard that cats shouldn't get tums, will see if I can find the palce I read it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I always keep a few cans on handbut I haven't checked for expiration dates on them...didn't even think about it. I would call the 800 number for Science Diet and ask them! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: emilyofw...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:24:15 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away from Mom!) -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat, needs your help!
Kelly, blind animals can and do lead happy lives. I saved the chipin link, and will donate on Friday. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:26:07 -0500 From: moonv...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Tiffany, blind DUMPED cat, needs your help! Tiffany is an approximately 15-16 year old DUMPED cat with untreated high blood pressure which has caused her to become blind. She will need to be on blood pressure meds for life; they are calculating the dosage now. Please help us if you can. We have spent $178 on her already exclusive of the meds she will need to be on for life. We expect she was dumped because her owners did not want to pay to fix what was wrong. http://rescuties.chipin.com/tiffany-the-blind-cat -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must purchase it from a vet. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few months since I checked). On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 From: sue.san...@ssa.gov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what would I ask for? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
No,no,no...Banfield is the animal hospital attached to PetsmartIt's Hill's Science Diet a/d...that's it. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:53:19 -0400 From: sue.san...@ssa.gov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 From: sue.san...@ssa.gov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what would I ask for? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.a spxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty
Taming a feral kitten takes time and tons of patience...trust me, it's what I do! Try visiting the feral cat site online...they have tons of helpful information. And yes, he could possibly already have been exposed to the virus...but that is not necessarily a death sentence. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:07:02 -0400 From: expressprin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty Hi Folks: You all were such a big help to me last summer when we rescued a little cat who was diagnosed with feline leukemia. Sadly, we lost little Smokey but?my husband?is now in the process of trying to tame and catch?a wild little kitten that is on?his job. He's?eating the?food he gives him?but he will not let him touch him. Any suggestions? Also, what is the chance that an abandoned kitten has feline leukemia? Does it help to catch the decease early? Thank you for your help, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D Some PetsMart stores have an attached vet clinic called Banfield. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/18/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:54 PM It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D But is it simply called A/D with Banfield?? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle? Philo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Venting
I share your frustration...I spent more than $1,000 of my own money last year trapping all of the neighborhood cats and having them desexedeven a few who's owners couldn't be bothered to do the right thing. I still have a few of the boys to do, but for now (at least) none of the females are fertile...and I will continue as quickly as possible to do the fellasit's tough, though, because my employment is kind of iffybut I have to stay focused and do what I can...and that's all I can do. I am fostering a momma (barely more than a kitten herself) that was part of a group of 25 cats dumped behind a library when their owner was evicted from her house...and of course none were spayed/neutered. I lost one of the babies within the first 24 hours...and I am amazed that this emaciated little mother is doing so well with the other three. I get so frustrated and angry that I cannot sleep at nightI don't know how you deal with such ignorance and stupidity on a daily basis Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:09:14 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Venting I want to vent, too! I've had a bad, bad day! I work at a county shelter and we have just about had it with people. A woman called today and told me that she was getting ready to call Channel 2 news about us, because we were so very rude. Why was she ticked off? Because she surrendered her dog 2 weeks ago - she and her husband couldn't tolerate the dog's destructive behavior - and we were not doing enough to get her dog adopted. U..you weren't willing to spend any time and effort whatsoever on your dog, so why would anyone else? They decided to just reclaim the dog today, since they didn't want her to be euthanized. My colleague who handled the reclaim very nicely questioned the husband about his plans for the dog. Would they work with her, train her, try to find her another home? After all, we didn't want the dog to be reclaimed only to be dumped on us again. Not exactly fair to the dog, is it? The husband said he was ready to start cursing out my coworker, and apparently a nasty email is in the works. And someone else dumped his dog because she had a hot spot, and he didn't want to pay a vet, and when we told him that we had a low-cost vet we could refer him to, the excuse was, She's too wild around the kids. We try to help them, and they counter with another BS excuse. I'm sick of it! And you guys will love this one. Last week a woman surrendered 5 kittens. It seems that THREE of her cats had litters of 7 at the same time, and she needs to round up all the kittens and bring them to us, because, of course, they all roam around outside! She then proceeded to blame the neighborhood tomcats for knocking up her females, when naturally it's her irresponsibility that got her into this mess. They are planning to bring us nearly 30 cats in all. We had to euthanize FIFTY cats and kittens last week, and just as many this week, and STILL people refuse to spay/neuter or keep their animals confined when they're in heat. This has to stop. It just has to stop. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties
Thanks for the info, Gary...most of mine are 8+...I know that isn't considered geriatric, but it's never too early to learn! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:11:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties There is a Yahoo group called geriatric-cats. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Helene R. Hand Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties Hi, You'all, Is there a website like ours with member participation for routine (healthy) geriatric cat care.this is for a friend of mine.who really needs some good advice about her aging cat Sneakers Helene ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09
Sharyl, I am so sorry for your loss...bless you for giving her the best year of her life Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:42:03 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09 I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today. She lost the use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from the FeLV. The paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel control. She was still eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait until she was suffering. She deserved better than that. She fell asleep in my arms from the sedative and never felt the 2nd shot. Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've ever had. No challenge was too great for her. She is the last of a litter of 4 positive babies I rescued last summer. What amazes me is that their mom and 3 aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still doing fine. All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing and teaching me so much. I learned not to let a handicap limit me. It sure didn't limit her love of life. She is now at the Rainbow Bridge with Bright Eyes, Houdini, and CJ. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!
Hooray! One success story at a time.what a happy ending! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: katn...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:22:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks! I see you have made your goal + an extra $10. Congratulations. Best to Snowball!!! - Original Message - From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] UPDATE Re: Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+,and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks! http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-08-03.8415646672 UPDATE: We're going to make this work. We need $80 to meet the revised goal. (If we do not meet the goal, all the pledges are forfeited. And we're past the 5 day window when the goal can be lowered.) Second Chance Meow has agreed to take Snowball if we can meet the revised goal ($330, 10% of which goes to fundable as their fee.) I'll cover transport costs myself. Transport has been arranged to get Snowball from Los Angeles to Reno. I will also make arrangements to have him dewormed, treated for fleas and given his FVRCP vaccine en route. (Second Chance Meow will still need to get him neutered.) Please, please, please cross-post this. We are so very close to target. We have transport. And this has to work to get Snowball off the streets and into a home. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reyna Castano rcpin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 9:04 AM Hello Everyone, My name is Snowball and I have been given the opportunity to be part of a wonderful family and live with other cats like me. I can't wait to be in my new home and receive and give lots of love. If Reyna had not rescued me I would have died. When she found me I was severely anemic. I could hardly walk and open my eyes. I was very sick. After an emergency transfusion and 3 days at the hospital I'm doing much better now. My appetite and energy are back. I love to play... my squeaky mouse is my favorite toy! She, however, cannot keep me because her family suffers from asthma. Also, she is a college student and does not have the money to properly care for me. This is why I need your help to get to Second Chance Meow (a home based sanctuary in Reno, Nevada). We all know that cats like me are hard to place in homes and usually end up in sanctuaries or shelters. I'm happy to be going to a loving and caring home where the people there know about this disease and can properly care for me. The fundraiser that was set up for me will end in 6 days. We still need more donations to make my dream of having a family of my own possible. Please help me! You will not regret it because you will have made this blue eyed cat very happy. : ) Meow, Snowball Fundraiser: http://www.fundable .com/groupaction s/groupaction. 2009-08-03. 8415646672 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary
My thoughts exactly. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0700 From: secondchanceme...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where do they get off asking that much??? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to avoid becoming overwhelmed. - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Never heard of them. According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals. - Original Message From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/ has anyone ever heard of these folks before? i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history in the FIV/FeLV community. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno
What wonderful news! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:57:32 -0700 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update: Snowball has made it to Reno Just wanted to update everyone. Snowball, the FeLV+ cat in Los Angeles, has made it to his home/sanctuary in Reno, Nevada. Just got a voicemail from Michael at Second Chance Meow and Snowball is settling in so easily that you would think he had always lived there. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right thing for them. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball HELLO EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball
LOLI guess I haven't been doing it long enough, then! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:19:16 -0700 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball Yes it does, it gets much easier. I always tell people that if you foster long enough you'll reach the point where you cry when they DON'T leave. - Original Message From: Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Snowball Letting go never gets any easier, Reynabut we do what we pray is the right thing for them. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:08:06 -0700 From: rcpin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Snowball HELLO EVERYONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HELPED SNOWBALL. THANK YOU FOR HELPING HIM GET TO HIS FOREVER HOME. YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I spoke to Michael a few minutes ago and Snowball is doing great. He is getting along pretty well with the family and other cats. I'm so happy. Michael will post pictures soon. Before Snowball I knew nothing about rescue. I'm glad he came into my life and made me aware of the harsh lives of stray and abandoned cats. I admire all the people who do rescue because although is rewarding it is also sad. I cried when Snowball left. I miss him so much. It's hard to let go but we have to do what is best for the animal. That is the one thing about rescue that I don't like is saying Goodbye. Reyna ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Administrative List
I canfor what it's worth. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: ter...@tazzys.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:23:08 -0700 CC: phaed...@charter.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Administrative List Hello, Can anyone read this? TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ 501(c)3 Non-Profit national rescue. All donations are tax deductible. http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/ Copyright © 2007-2009 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Administrative List From: ter...@tazzys.org Date: Sun, September 20, 2009 8:19 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: James Wilson phaed...@charter.net ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] TNR Feral Colonies
I do TNR also...and I have to agree with Sharyl...this money is coming out of my own pockets...I cannot afford to spay/neuter/vaccinate...but I do. These cats will be returned to their colony as long as their health is good...I wish I could afford every test and every preventative vaccine, but I am doing the best I can with what I earn. I haven't had any kittens to worry about in the past two years, so I feel fortunate. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:57:28 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR Feral Colonies Not sure how all TNR individuals or groups handle the situation of FIV and/or FeLV+ colony members. I'm on the Feral Cat group. Most TNR is done by individuals or small groups. TNR = Trap, Neuter, Release Since the plan is to release the cat back to its original colony/location, very few folks test for FIV or FeLV. To be frank they can't afford the test and the results would not change the outcome. _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
