without the thread.
>
> Fortunately, I have never had a cat display a bad reaction to the rabies
> vaccination even though it's given at the same time as spay/neuter surgery.
> However, consider that giving vaccinations does overload the immune system at
> least until the cat develops the
the rabies
vaccination even though it's given at the same time as spay/neuter surgery.
However, consider that giving vaccinations does overload the immune system at
least until the cat develops the required immunity. NEVER give anything but the
rabies vaccination if the cat is going into surgery
Awesome! Thanks for that link and the note about the expense! I, too,
might look into a mass vaccination day.
Marsha
Margo wrote: Shelley, It is now available;
http://www.merial.com/EN/PressRoom/PressRelease/Pages/Merial-Introduces-PUREVAX%C2%AE-Feline-Rabies-3-YR-Vaccine.aspx
I don't thin
Good point about giving vaccines on intake. It is not effective to
protect other cats, or the ones being vaccinated.
I have boarded at a veterinarian's office a few times in the past, when
I had fewer cats. And once in the distant past at a pet store that had
a boarding room (no dogs). I do
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>To: Shelley Theye
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
>
>
>
>Shelley,
>
> It is now available;
>
>http://www.merial.com/EN/PressRoom/PressRelease/Pages/Merial-Introduces-PUREVAX%C
with the procedures in place.
Margo
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>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
>
>Vets who have a boarding service will require vaccinations before
>boardi
Margo,
I don't think there is a 3 year Purevax Rabies yet is there?
I thought I read somewhere that it might last longer than a year, which it is
listed as now, but that
they hadn't officially decided to call it a 3 year. I would love to only have
to think about this every 3 years!
Shelley
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I have been vaccinating Harley for rabies because a bat got in the
garage a couple years ago. The bat was not caught and tested. That is
the only vaccine he gets, and when his FeLV progresses to an active
form, I will not vaccinate him anymore. I skipped a year between
vaccinations too
Almost all of you have suggested I not get the FVRCP vaccinations.
so I won't. These kittens are indoors only and have no contact with
AC. My rescues usually come from local people who dump them at my
rescue shelter.
Thanks so much to everyone who posted.
Lorrie
On 10-07, Beth
e my heart to lose my
> FeLV babies but they brought me so much joy. I only hope I was able to
> give them 1/2 of what they gave me.
> >
> >Hugs to yours
> >Sharyl
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Beth
> >To: felvtalk
Yep.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Lorrie wrote:
> I did not know the 1 year and 3 year rabies were the same. So the vet
> gives a new cat or kitten the first vaccination for rabies and then
> makes extra $$ by having you return for another vaccination in a year.
>
>
> On 10-06, Kathryn Hargre
at they gave me.
>
>Hugs to yours
>Sharyl
>
>
>
> From: Beth
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
>
>Don't. My one got sick immediately after an FvRCP annual v
I did not know the 1 year and 3 year rabies were the same. So the vet
gives a new cat or kitten the first vaccination for rabies and then
makes extra $$ by having you return for another vaccination in a year.
On 10-06, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote:
>Also, I'm sure you know that 1-year and 3-year
e old childhood diseases now. As an older woman I immediately
recognized the disease and my grandson did recover just fine.
Lorrie
On 10-06, Lee Evans wrote:
>This is just an opinion stemming from a human experience with
>vaccinations. I almost died from the whooping cough vaccina
t: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Don't. My one got sick immediately after an FvRCP annual vaccination
Lorrie wrote:
>What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens??
>They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations,
>but I've had immune compromised kittens d
ns at once. That's
what is done to our cats when they get the FeLV, rabies and FVRCP vaccinations
at one time on top of which they are undergoing surgery to remove their
reproductive system. Whew!
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neig
gnize it as
> sufficient. The vets make money on the vaccinations every year. Why
> should they stop a good cash cow (or cat)?
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
> ---
Don't. My one got sick immediately after an FvRCP annual vaccination
Lorrie wrote:
>What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens??
>They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations,
>but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I wor
Yes, I know that but the dim wits who make the Animal Control laws in Texas
refuse to recognize it. A titer costs a whole lot of $$$ for that reason and
I'm not sure the authorities would even recognize it as sufficient. The vets
make money on the vaccinations every year. Why should they
life.
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Lee Evans wrote:
> This is just an opinion stemming from a human experience with
> vaccinations. I almost died from the whooping cough vaccination when I was
> 9 years old. Again, when the Salk vaccine came out, my father, a physician
> gave
read about that but I think that's part of why they can develop this
condition/infection.
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From: "Lee Evans"
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Date: Sat, Oct 6, 2012 6
e kittens??
>> They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations,
>> but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry.
>> They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in
>> my cat sanctuary.
>>
>> Lorrie
>>
s
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
I wonder if you should try to get a tubal ligation instead, as a recent study
indicates that longevity is tied to keeping the ovaries:
http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html
I&#x
This is just an opinion stemming from a human experience with vaccinations. I
almost died from the whooping cough vaccination when I was 9 years old. Again,
when the Salk vaccine came out, my father, a physician gave me the anti-polio
vaccination. Now, I do approve of polio vaccinations
wrote:
> Thank for this advice. Kitty, the little feral, I rescued us living in her
> bedroom with all her toys and things. She is due for her vaccinations and
> very soon to be spayed. I'm holding off on the vaccinations but she will
> get spayed soon. Keeping fingers crossed that wh
life (not
that they say though!).
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Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
What are your opinions on vaccinating Fel
Thank for this advice. Kitty, the little feral, I rescued us living in her
bedroom with all her toys and things. She is due for her vaccinations and very
soon to be spayed. I'm holding off on the vaccinations but she will get spayed
soon. Keeping fingers crossed that when I retest her s
onths old and should have their first vaccinations,
but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry.
They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in
my cat sanctuary.
Lorrie
On 10-05, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
There seem to be a lot of questions about the
What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens??
They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations,
but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry.
They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in
my cat sanctuary.
Lorrie
On 10-05
Mine feels the same way :0)
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From: "Natalie"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
My vet hates that vaccine - and the company that produces it is not very
good or reliable, either!
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Some do...at least to a degree. One vet I asked charges almost $250
for a rabies titer and it has to be repeated yearly.
On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Natalie wrote:
I wish that states would accept a titer, and allow vaccinations
accordingly. But I sup[pose [people may not want to pay the
I wish that states would accept a titer, and allow vaccinations accordingly.
But I sup[pose [people may not want to pay the extra money for it.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of molvey...@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August
;t offer
protection for the animal being seen or for animals at the clinic that day.
sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
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From: "Marcia Baronda"
Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 12:31 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
They should no better than to give an FIV shot. Once administered they will
then always test positive for it whether they have it or not!!
Idiots!
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From: "Lorrie"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:50 PM
S
elvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:51 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
>
> It's very bad practice to vaccinate cats while they are having
>
They should no better than to give an FIV shot. Once administered they will
then always test positive for it whether they have it or not!!
Idiots!
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From: "Lorrie"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
It&
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
>
>
>
> Me too, they don't need all that every year
>
>
> > From: gbl...@ari
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Me too, they don't need all that every year
> From: gbl...@aristotle.net
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:52:43 -0500
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
>
> That's pretty much why I do...
>
will
NOT treat any cat that has never been vaccinated!
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Me too, they don't need all that every year
> From: gbl...@aristotle.net
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:52:43 -0500
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
>
> That's pretty much why I do...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On
er when I bring them for
> surgery. I give my cats their PCRC, way before they have surgery,
> but Rabies vaccinations are the law here, and only vets can give the
> injections. Once they are vaccinated I do not repeat vaccinations
> annually, and I just ignore the postcards I get s
It's very bad practice to vaccinate cats while they are having
surgery, but vets do it, so now I write out instructions not to
vaccinate, and put it on the cat's carrier when I bring them for
surgery. I give my cats their PCRC, way before they have surgery,
but Rabies vaccinations a
Here's an interesting article on vaccines:
http://www.examiner.com/pet-health-in-national/pet-health-101-are-vaccinatio
ns-safe-for-dogs-and-cats
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> Sorry to hear about the rabies shots- ouch!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:00 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
>
> As a matter of fac
i don't think that many states have senses of humor when it comes to rabies.
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Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
i was in MI then
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Cougar Clan wrote:
> What state are you in?
>
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:51 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
>
> THEY DON'T CARE.
>>
>> if there is a bat fo
i was in MI then
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Cougar Clan wrote:
> What state are you in?
>
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:51 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
>
> THEY DON'T CARE.
>>
>> if there is a bat found in the house, they will tell you that you AND the
>> cats could easily have been bitten without y
What state are you in?
On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:51 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
THEY DON'T CARE.
if there is a bat found in the house, they will tell you that you
AND the
cats could easily have been bitten without your even noticing it, by
the
very sharp little bat teeth. if the bat comes back rap
THEY DON'T CARE.
if there is a bat found in the house, they will tell you that you AND the
cats could easily have been bitten without your even noticing it, by the
very sharp little bat teeth. if the bat comes back rapid and your animals
are NOT current, they WILL be confiscated, and they WILL be
Well, maybe you could put it way out in the woods on a tree... (haha)
Sorry to hear about the rabies shots- ouch!
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From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:00 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
8:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
Hey Laurie- have you ever considered putting up bat houses? That may keep
them out of the house :-)
http://www.batconservation.org/content/Bathouseimportance.html
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From: Laurieskatz [mailt
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
Thank-you to all who responded. GREAT help! I loved the KY vet link and the
thoughts about a holistic remedy to be used if vaccinating. I talked to my
vet and he does have the purevax. He prefers the 3 year adjuvanted rabies
but will use the purevax. He
There has been several cases of rabid bats in Ky. This is a
consideration. I have to ask what the odds are of a bat getting in
the house, then what are the odds of it biting Copper or Thomas then
what are the odds of it being rabid. Each person must decide. Ky
accepts titers by the way
Thank-you to all who responded. GREAT help! I loved the KY vet link and the
thoughts about a holistic remedy to be used if vaccinating. I talked to my
vet and he does have the purevax. He prefers the 3 year adjuvanted rabies
but will use the purevax. He also has the internasal distemper. He said it
Thanks for the information re the FeLVI have concerns about my
boys not being vaccinated because of the what-ifs associated with
travel and .well..thanks. Having lost Dixie to this and being
inclined to help out cats with no caregivers, the boys safety is a
concern.
On Mar 3,
g me smile."
- Anonymous
From: "lernermiche...@aol.com"
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:25:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
PureVax makes a rabies vaccine with no adjuvant. That is what I get my cats.
It'
PureVax makes a rabies vaccine with no adjuvant. That is what I get my cats.
It's more expensive and it lasts only one year instead of 3, but is supposed to
have no risk of vaccine-associated sarcoma so I think it is worth it.
I only revaccinate yearly because my town has cat licensing AND I am
r vet said that if she
handled that well that he wanted to do distemper. I am not going to
schedule
that because we almost lost her twice as a kitten and I think it was
the
distemper shot that did it. She was on antibiotics for almost a
month! I
know the vets push for vaccinations, but rabie
distemper shot that did it. She was on antibiotics for almost a month! I
know the vets push for vaccinations, but rabies is all I will consider. I
wouldn't even do that, but I don't want to chance her biting someone and not
having it.
~Susan
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Cougar Clan w
. Mai Mai Puppy had Auto Immune Hemophilic Anemia and
wasn't vaccinated after diagnosis; The Royal Princess Kitty Katt
(cancer) wasn't and Dixie (FeLV+) wasn't. I have to figure the odds
of them contracting something vs the possible harm of the vaccinations.
On May 12, 20
at was a stray, and he is now a
100% indoor cat.
I'm thinking I should ask the vet to titer him. I just don't feel good
about giving vaccinations to an immune compromised cat.
What do you folks do?
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Also how old is the kitten?
Young animals usually under a year can sometimes shed the virus and become
negative later in life.
I hope this helps, good luck.
Tanya
--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Kim wrote:
> From: Kim
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ but tested after the vaccinations were given
>
Hello,
I have a foster cat who tested positive to the Elisa test AFTER she was
vaccinated. Do previously vaccinating a cat create a false positive when
tested after the vac.s?
When I got her she had all of her shots but was never tested for FeLV until
I did it.
Thanks!
Kim
"...Saving just on
were NEVER spayed,
based on their health. but just as with vaccinations, perfectly healthy cats
can die from routine spays and neuters, and you have to weigh the
alternatives. i just don't think that we can blame everything that happens
to an FIV, or an FeLV, on their having the virus wanderi
soon died. I'm assuming his immune system was gone,
whereas the other kitten had an immune system that was still pretty
much alright.
Re: your other e-mail.. I agree, vets want to give kittens way,
way too many vaccinations. They also get the same amount of vaccine
a full grown cat g
Hi Marie
I share your fear of unnecessary vaccinations. A vet I use, who is
very enlightened, recommended a book
entitled Vaccine Guide for Dogs and Cats by Catherine Diodati.
http://books.google.com/books?id=brILCAAJ&dq=Catherine+JM
+Diodati&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/
Marie:
There's lost of info out there now about over-vaccination, so it's something to
look into. You can google that term as it is related to cats and you will find
a ton of info. If the cat is healthy, then "generally" vaccinations are safe.
However, it's im
Marie, this is all new to me, but according to my vet, cats with feline
leukemia do not get the same vaccinations as healthy cats, so it may very well
have been what hastened your cat's demise. I'm not even going to have him
vaccinated for anything at this point.
Personally if an
But he ate well and was playful.
Then three weeks after he had his vaccinations, he went down quickly.
His sister, Chica, has tested negative twice within 90 days. I think she will
be okay. It's time to have her vaccinations again, and I'm just scared because
of what happened to
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:42:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I did not think it possible to send photos to the list.
Laurie,
I'm not sure. Possibly because I inserted the pictures in the email instead
of attaching them as files? You might try that.
I would vaccinate for feleuk in that case
L
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Whitey's Test Results and vaccinations
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:22:09 P.M. Ea
/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each
vaccination and the altering. Is there any point in vaccinating him
for feline leukemia? I would be hesitant, I guess. Just my opinion.
I only do the distemper series and rabies now. I am considering
discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune
for feline leukemia? I would
be
hesitant, I guess. Just my opinion. I only do the distemper series and rabies
now. I am considering discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune compromised
cats (allergies and asthma). All my cats have had the feline leukemia in
earlier years. None have been
and rabies now. I am
considering discontinuing all vaccinations for my immune compromised cats
(allergies and asthma). All my cats have had the feline leukemia in earlier
years. None have been vaccinated for it since 2001.
Laurie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To
Susan
I think that your vet is right. I would never consider vaccinating a
sick kitty.
This is a link to C.A. Diodati. http://www.freeyurko.bizland.com/
diodaticv.html
She has researched and written exhaustively about vaccinations, and
is considered a sane
and reasoned voice on the subject
I can't address the vaccinations that Autumn got but my holistic vets are
recommending titers to determine what a cat needs. Apparently a lot of animals
are having trouble with vaccinations. Others on the list can address this
better than I. Dixie tested FeLV+ and will never receive an
Since Autumn has been sick the vet didn't want to give her her booster. The
first time she got sick was two days after her first shots. She was found
outside and was relatively healthy. Has anyone else had problems with a cat
with viremia and vaccinations? Just curious.
~Susan A.
did a bit of research to find out where the original source of this
mis-attributed to Jean Dodds 'quotation' came from - it's an article
from 2003 - published in
"Better Nutrition"
Vexing vaccinations: a tale of too much of a good thing - petcare
Better Nutrit
t it.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Jane Lyons
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:56 PM
> >> Subject: NEW vaccination protocols announced today
> >>
> >>
> >>>
>
rotocols announced today
This information was released today. Because yearly vaccinations are
the primary source of income for many
veterinarian practices, and because pharmaceutical companies have
lobbied against this protocol, this has
been a long time coming. This version is a compromise,
I think you can have titers run on the little one when she is older to see
what her immunity level is.I believe they are relatively
expensive compared to vaccinations but even rabies titers are accepted in
many states including Ky which is not a pet friendly state
belong to,
including cancer at the vaccination site and reactions
leading to downward spirals ending in death. It's
really scary, so I feel my kitties are safer w/o
vaccinations. If one does vaccinate, they should do
it in a place that can be removed if cancer develops,
like the back legs.
Done---thanks, Nina.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Safer Vaccinations for Companion Animals Petition
Hi Everyone,
I was looking into cancer
Nina,
Petition signed and passed on to other groups and
friends! Thanks for posting that!
Hugs,
Patti
Hi Everyone,
I was looking into cancer occurrence due to vaccinations and came across
this petition. I thought you guys might be interested in signing it as
well.
Nina
http://www.petitiononline.com/petvax23/petition.html
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