Registered http://serverwiki.info/ If people want to use it great, if not oh
well.
Added a few things to get it started, mainly css, tf2, and l4d related.
Knock yourselves out.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote:
It's too bad Daitengu let serverwiki.org die
Thats great - thank you, but i have say that for the most part it could
possibly be yet another place for un-official conjecture.
Valve needs to provide complete official documentation for their products on
their own wiki.
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- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Kellaway Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:44 AM To:
Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] How about
some server instructions and server.cfg files? Srcds.com doesn't really go
beyond getting
It's honestly driven me to the point of not caring anymore. I love the
game so I play it but I have 3 servers that I just haven't even bothered
with since the release. Its not so much hate as it is disappointment in
Valve. I think a lot of the problem is that they don't view us as
I stayed up till 2:00 in the morning playing expert on the last campaign
where you have to get in the boat. I had to get up at 7:00, but hey its
better than crack rock.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Timothy L Havener
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's honestly driven me to the point of not
dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their
game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart
dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their
game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart
.
There is a once payment for the client install though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ccfan4326
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 2:01 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions
i find srcds.com is all that's needed :)
David Kellaway wrote:
I have some unfinished rough documentation I wrote for myself a while
back. Would anyone be interested if I were to transfer that into a
wiki format as a general resource for server stuff?
-Dave
ccfan4326 wrote:
All I'm
Srcds.com doesn't really go beyond getting the game installed, which is
the easiest part (one command-line command, one shell script and a five
minute coffee break). I think what people would like to see is a more
complete set of documentation on configuring map cycles and MOTDs, the
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 november 2008 11:55
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
They don't make it a pain.. If you don't know how to setup servers, then
maybe you shouldn't be doing so. There are 1000's
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Olly
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 november 2008 11:55
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
They don't make it a pain.. If you don't know how to setup servers, then
maybe you shouldn't
-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
To be honnest, i think he is right. We don't whine, but instead we give
feedback (some feedback is a little negative formulated.. but its
feedback).
I'm sure they all read
QFT. Documentation complete.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Left4dead servers are very much easier to run than other source servers, as
so much is decided runtime by the matchmaking system... set your IP and
port, edit the motd and host files, and set a custom
@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
QFT. Documentation complete.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Left4dead servers are very much easier to run than other source servers, as
so much is decided runtime
Left 4 Dead is a product.
To release a product without any documentation to support it, whether its
front end or back end - is poor, very poor.
How about, Zanussi releasing a washing machine without any manual or
support? Or Sony releasing a DVD player without any information on it?
Think
: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:09:05 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
QFT. Documentation complete.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Left4dead servers are very
@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:09:54 +
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
None of this is about documentation. It's about the server being done in a
certain way, and you wishing it was different. Some of the things you are
talking about
mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
To be honnest, i think he is right. We don't whine, but instead we give
feedback (some feedback is a little negative formulated.. but its feedback).
I'm sure they all read the mailinglist (hi, guys
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Olly
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 november 2008 11:55
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
They don't make it a pain.. If you don't know how to setup servers, then
maybe
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kellaway
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:44 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
Srcds.com doesn't really go beyond getting the game installed
dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
I'm *not* supporting L4D until Valve gets their act together. I made
the decision a day or two after release and numerous frustrating
attempts to get it behaving the way I wanted
.
From: Matthew Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:06:13 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Check out srcds.com
Seconding. It has more or less been the community's place in the past to
explore options that are outside the box, and I don't see why L4D is or
should be any different.
Want documentation? Play with CVARs and throw you findings up on
srcds.com or the Developer wiki. Thank you for helping us help
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:09:54 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
hlds
.
Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. I hope you don't have jobs in the
industry, and I pray no accredited university has awarded you a degree in the
field.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:55:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server
a degree in the
field.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:55:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Seconding. It has more or less been the community's place in the past to
explore
in the
industry, and I pray no accredited university has awarded you a degree in
the field.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:55:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files
mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Seconding. It has more or less been the community's place in the past to
explore options that are outside the box, and I don't see why L4D is or
should be any different.
Want documentation? Play with CVARs
Inline responses.
What about maplists and map cycles? Or mission cycles?
Typically you should drive the cycle of maps on the server based on the
lobby system and restrict your dedicated server search using sv_search_key
cvar. This is good if you want to create a public lobby but use your
that, is it by design, or is it a bug/omission?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:48:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
I'm not defending it, I just think it's absurd to be freaking out, up
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Seconding. It has more or less been the community's place in the past to
explore options that are outside the box, and I don't see why L4D is or
should be any different.
Want documentation? Play with CVARs
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Yeah, Valve dropped the ball. They should have had their act together
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Yeah, Valve dropped the ball. They should have had their act together,
but they didn't
I may want to set up co-op only because my testing has found that co-op
only requires less CPU and/or RAM resources.
This will probably need to be addressed in a patch, but I found this thread
that discusses restricting the server to versus maps:
http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/8879
In
Hey Mike, and everyone else defending the lack of documentation...
All of those things that you just responded with answers for...were all
figured out by admins, not you, nor Valve. Valve changed how the server
setup works for Left 4 Dead when it has been essentially the same for 10
years or so
If anyone wants to help I am setting up a wiki for L4D server documentation
here http://gulfy32.com/l4d/tiki-index.php
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, shoskins73 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Mike, and everyone else defending the lack of documentation...
All of those things that you just
http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/8879 That link is useless and provides no
answers, only the same questions that everyone else is asking.
As I just mentioned in my previous post. Despite what settings you add to
the server.cfg or how you edit the mapcycle file, Lobby players with
Campaign
to
vote for ANY map (including switching between versus and coop maps).
You can't find a solution, can you? There is none.
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:04:13 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files
and coop maps).
You can't find a solution, can you? There is none.
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:04:13 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Inline responses.
What about
: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
These have been addressed before. I'll go warm up a thread on srcds for
you.
How do I make my server coop or versus only?
If I can't do that, is it by design, or is it a bug/omission?
You cannot; it is by design
. They
are dependent on us, NOT the other way around.
And yes, I will continue to bitch and whine and moan about it.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:26:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
I want USERS
@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:38:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
It's by design, because it's not an accident? It's by design, because of
exactly what you said? It's not like there are CVARs that control it's
usage
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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:07:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
These have been addressed before. I'll go warm up a thread on srcds for
you.
How do I make my server coop or versus
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
It's by design, because it's not an accident? It's by design, because of
exactly what you said? It's not like there are CVARs that control it's
usage that aren't working. If it was designed to be allowed to do those
]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:26:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
I want USERS to be able to change between coop and versus maps.
You can't.
If this is not possible, I want to restrict my server
-0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and
server.cfg files?
I'm not defending it, I just think it's absurd to be freaking
out,
up in
arms about not having it. The game has been out for what, 2
weeks?
Has
Valve EVER had 100% documentation
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
I want USERS to be able to change between coop and versus maps.
You can't.
If this is not possible, I want to restrict my server to coop only.
You can't.
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 14:21 -0800, Blood
To you 'fanboys' defending valves lack of product documentation -
Through valves complacency you've basically been conditioned to think this
is normal, as a web developer i can assure you this is NOT how products are
rolled out.
When companies release a product, it is industry standard to
that
Valve took) is to simply disallow game mode switching.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:07:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
These have been addressed before. I'll go
How long have you been working with dedicated server?
No company his implemented a huge support system and documentation that
people seem to be begging for.
While I understand that documentation would help, just deal with it. This
listserv and SRCDS.com and other sites are working together as a
Just deal with it fantastic
Why dont you demand what is normal and standard?
I'm not gonna threaten to boycott source games - i like them, in fact i love
them, however, i cant sit by and not say anything about this issue.
I've said my bit, and you wont hear from me again on this subject :)
it.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:26:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
I want USERS to be able to change between coop and versus maps.
You can't
I can totally agree on the sv_steam_group_exclusive part.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
To you 'fanboys' defending valves lack of product documentation -
Through valves complacency you've basically been conditioned to think this
is normal, as a web
People here say if you need help, just read the mailing list, look at
the forums. I say I have, and there's some basic stuff that is simply
impossible, by design or by flaw.
This is not a documentation issue, Unless your issue with the documentation
is the documentation doesn't tell me how to
-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:21 PM, shoskins73 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can bitch and complain and whine but nothing will happen. Shut off
your
servers or make them all private
mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
How long have you been working with dedicated server?
No company his implemented a huge support system and documentation that
people seem to be begging for.
While I understand that documentation would help, just
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Gottlieb
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:58 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
How long have you been working with dedicated server
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:21:06 -0800
From: shoskins73 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
Fact is, Valve have already publicly stated (when the demo was out) and
again by Chet
.
Sean
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:21:06 -0800
From: shoskins73 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
Fact is, Valve
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
Careful, frank :) I said the same thing a few weeks ago only to be
barraged with waah waaah wh what a crybaby type emails flooding the
list
@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
You know from time to time we all need help. I see no reason to flame valve
though. The dedicated servers are fairly straight forward, there is a lot of
info that can be found in many places about commands etc
are in the rotation.
And there's no way in the gui for people to vote for a map of a different
type.
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:48:34 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
You know from time to time we
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To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:19:08 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Pure speculation, but at this stage i imagine valve is hard at working
fixing some
From: Arg! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:19:08 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Pure speculation, but at this stage i
@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg
files?
You know from time to time we all need help. I see no reason to flame
valve
though. The dedicated servers are fairly straight forward, there is a
lot of
info that can be found in many places about commands
:46:09 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Apparently you're not reading the same mailing list I am. I've seen many
posts from valve regarding issues administrators have been experiencing
going as far back as the demo release date.
Now if your
: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Sorry... since the release I've seen nothing once the windows fubar was
patched.
demo was just that.. a demo
From: Chris Brunelle
To: Half-Life
Like he said though, there is not a central consolidated and up to date
list of information about running L4D servers. It shouldn't take more
than 30 minutes to put together and add to a wiki or forum page.
Leaving everyone to their own devices to scour mailing lists and forums
looking for
Sounds like you're up to the challenge.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Midnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like he said though, there is not a central consolidated and up to date
list of information about running L4D servers. It shouldn't take more
than 30 minutes to put together and add to
I'd be happy to. My consulting fees are $250/hr, 50% in advance. I
don't work for free sorry.
gulfy wrote:
Sounds like you're up to the challenge.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Midnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like he said though, there is not a central consolidated and up to
I bet the Valve guys don't either.
http://instantrimshot.com/
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 17:07 -0800, Midnight wrote:
I'd be happy to. My consulting fees are $250/hr, 50% in advance. I
don't work for free sorry.
gulfy wrote:
Sounds like you're up to the challenge.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008
Indeed. Everyone needs to stop whining about this.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, msleeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bet the Valve guys don't either.
http://instantrimshot.com/
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 17:07 -0800, Midnight wrote:
I'd be happy to. My consulting fees are $250/hr, 50% in
We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their
game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed. Everyone needs to stop whining about this.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, msleeper
list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their
game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM, John Du Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed. Everyone
, 25 November 2008 2:01 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
We're the ones paying them and paying for servers to support their
game, is it too much to ask for some decent documentation?
On Mon, Nov 24
Been through HUNDREDS of emails and it's like a guessing game for most
people to figure out what's what with setting up the servers the way we want
them.
Is it too much to ask to get proper instructions on what commands we need
for our servers?
I really find this very poorly organized. You
the
fact.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Hotte
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:50 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Been through
Seconded. And no, the Setting up a Standalone Dedicated Server guide
is not it.
I've got to believe that somewhere, someone (internal on the
development team) documented the server setup process and the cvars
used. Can't that be made public, say on the game title page:
]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] How about some server instructions and server.cfg files?
Careful, frank :) I said the same thing a few weeks ago only to be barraged
with waah waaah wh what a crybaby type emails flooding the list.
But yeah. I agree
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