[MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay
Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national finals. 
Which means they have been invited to compete in the international 
finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, daughter 
and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over to 
Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the 
bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent US 
address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is the 
choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been busy 
in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off shore in 
order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I am led to 
believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks policy and 
you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are in a designated 
smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental a 
better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the 
HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between 
the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they 
have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our itinerary 
at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - New York 
across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son requested this 
one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the 
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 T EGR mod WAS: Fuel delivery valve job

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT

It would be clean without the EGR?  Wow! That'd be great!

Thx - I'll pay attention ;-)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 T EGR mod WAS: Fuel delivery valve job


LarryT wrote:

Hi Guys -
What's the reason for wanting/needing the EGR disconnected?  Does it 
improve something?


My W124 seems pretty well balanced as is ...


What about that black sooty ooze in the intake manifold?
That comes from the EGR valve.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT
Thx Loren - my '91 300D just turned 176K so it's time for me to inspect 
things around the rear end -


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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

My 87 300 D had the lower wheel carrier bushing totally crapped out at 
160K  By 180k the links were going bad.



About how long does it take to go thru the rear suspension bushings/etc?
(on the 124).

thx
LarryT
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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

The 126 is the same as the 123 except for the size.  Same mounts, etc, 
same hassles.


The W124 is completely different -- multilink suspension (and you 
probably need to replace them all) plus four subframe mounts, two front 
and two rear (not the same).  It can be done by jacking up the  rear and 
dropping one side at a time, then using a puller/pusher to  remove and 
install the mounts.


Diff is held on by two steel and rubber inserts in the subframe at the 
rear and a pair of rubber mounts between plates up front.  Rear mounts 
must be removed to the front (they are tapered and won't come  out the 
back) and they are always very stuck.  Best course is to use  an air 
chisel to collapse the steel ring to get them out, then pull  the new 
ones in.  You can hang the diff on a jack while you are doing  this and 
leave the axles installed.


This is a job I was going to tackle on the old 300D when it got smashed, 
and will be doing next month on the new one (and an evaporator 
transplant, oh joy!)


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT

Hi Hendrik -
   Welcome to USA !  IMO riding a train is a great experience.  But your 
plans will still require a car/taxi/public transp.You lose a lot of 
flexibility when traveling by trains are they just are not as regular or 
frequent as they are in Europe.  If it were me, I'd use the train for long 
distances but plan on renting a car when you want to visit museums and the 
other attractions you'd like to see.   Having the freedom to be on your own 
time table is invaluable.


   The weather in the parts of US you'll be visiting in June can vary 
greatly so you may need to bring layers of clothing that can come off when 
the temps go up.  It's still early enough in the summer season to have some 
cold surprises.


The Gun shops await!  Yu might consider Cabela's.  www.cabelas.com has a 
listing of all their stores - hopefully one will be near your route


Congrats to your daughter!  She played an obviously outstanding part in 
helping the team win!  ;-)  Good luck on the travels and her competitions.


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From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates (buddies 
in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary school based 
competition and gained second place in the national finals. Which means 
they have been invited to compete in the international finals to be held 
in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, daughter 
and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce Willis 
movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of traveling 
around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over to 
Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the bonnet 
(hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that registration 
and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent US address, so we 
have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been busy 
in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off shore in 
order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I am led to 
believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks policy and you 
can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are in a designated 
smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental a 
better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the HD 
museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between the two 
but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they have public 
transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our itinerary 
at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - New York across 
to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son requested this one =-O ) 
and then back up to LA, with a few stops in between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the people 
of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hans Neureiter
Train travel in the US is more like a luxury cruise,except in the DC - NY
City area. Quite expensive and little flexibility.
Also local public transportation is still in very fine print around here.
The best way to sightsee the country is a rental car.
Allthough all rental cars are Non Smoking and without ashtrays or
lighters, - but who knows if you dont tell.
Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.
You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally (LA
to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little
 backwater.
 OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates (buddies
 in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary school based
 competition and gained second place in the national finals. Which means they
 have been invited to compete in the international finals to be held in La
 Crosse Wisconsin http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from
 June 10th - 13th.
 Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, daughter
 and son) and have a gander at the US.
 Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce Willis
 movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of traveling
 around the states, especially since 911.
 The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over to
 Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the bonnet
 (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that registration and
 insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent US address, so we have
 shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is the choo choo train.
 I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been busy in
 the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off shore in order to
 light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I am led to believe that
 Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks policy and you can only smoke
 when the train is stopped and you are in a designated smoking area on the
 platform?
 Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental a
 better option?
 For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the HD
 museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between the two
 but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they have public
 transport.
 So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our itinerary at
 this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - New York across to
 San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son requested this one =-O ) and
 then back up to LA, with a few stops in between I guess.
 I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

 Hendrik  Family
 who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the people
 of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this
 http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Hans Neureiter wrote:

The best way to sightsee the country is a rental car.


Yes.


Allthough all rental cars are Non Smoking and without ashtrays or
lighters, - but who knows if you dont tell.
Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.


$15 a day, is that for the car, or for the damage waiver?
Henny surely isn't going to get off the plane at O'Hare, walk to the rental 
counter, and drive off with a $100 a week car. Maybe Chairman Meow can clue us 
in on whether it's possible to rent for that anywhere in his mafia infested 
city, but I can pretty much guarantee you won't find that price at an airport.


One thing to note on the damage waiver. With some rental firms, if somebody pays 
for the damage waiver and brings the car back damaged, the best way to recoup 
the loss is to rent it out to some sucker who doesn't pay for the waiver 
(preferrably at night or in the rain if the damage is obvious) and then charge 
him for the damage when he brings the car back.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Hans Neureiter wrote:

Train travel in the US is more like a luxury cruise,except in the DC - NY
City area. Quite expensive and little flexibility.


That's a good comparison. The train can be your hotel, your restaurant, and your 
transportation, if you pay for a sleeping compartment. Four years ago the food 
was excellent, but I've heard that might have changed. The train ride up the 
coast from LA to San Fran is quite scenic. Trains have scheduling problems, 
mostly in the areas where passenger trains yield to freight trains. It's 
possible for Amtrak to get you to a station after the train you were supposed to 
ride out of the station left.


If you could have a lister inspect and procure a car for you, touring the 
country in a 300D 2.5 or a 300SDL would be quite nice. If you buy it in 
California and sell it in Illinois/Wisconsin, you might even turn a profit.
If you relive the POS SDL saga while on vacation, that would not be fun or 
profitable. I wonder if it's feasible to take a train to Tulsa and find a usable 
car at Okie Acres? Seems like that place has more drivers than reliable cars 
these days. How's Reggie's W140 doing?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Biggest thing to notice is the camber of the rear tires or any 
squirrelyness in handling


Thx Loren - my '91 300D just turned 176K so it's time for me to 
inspect things around the rear end -


LarryT

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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

My 87 300 D had the lower wheel carrier bushing totally crapped out 
at 160K  By 180k the links were going bad.



About how long does it take to go thru the rear suspension bushings/etc?
(on the 124).

thx
LarryT
91 300D

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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

The 126 is the same as the 123 except for the size.  Same mounts, 
etc, same hassles.


The W124 is completely different -- multilink suspension (and you 
probably need to replace them all) plus four subframe mounts, two 
front and two rear (not the same).  It can be done by jacking up 
the  rear and dropping one side at a time, then using a 
puller/pusher to  remove and install the mounts.


Diff is held on by two steel and rubber inserts in the subframe 
at the rear and a pair of rubber mounts between plates up front. 
Rear mounts must be removed to the front (they are tapered and 
won't come  out the back) and they are always very stuck.  Best 
course is to use  an air chisel to collapse the steel ring to get 
them out, then pull  the new ones in.  You can hang the diff on a 
jack while you are doing  this and leave the axles installed.


This is a job I was going to tackle on the old 300D when it got 
smashed, and will be doing next month on the new one (and an 
evaporator transplant, oh joy!)


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 7

2010-02-21 Thread Douglas




We switched from Norton to Symantec endpoint at work last year. Norton was 
a dog, endpoint is fine...


My wife's computer at work has AVAST! which I find to be pretty good.

Its always hard to tell though, are we really being protected or do we 
care more that the computer runs well?


I put the windows essential on Windows 7 RC and it seems to be fine. Will 
probably go with that. on the others when I do the motherboard CPU change.






How is your Mac Wall street?

I haven't used it much as it needs a Pram battery and doesn't really like to 
boot up.



I think you are right I have comcast and they provided me with
McAffee it has worked fine for years. Now they provide Norton! I am
planning on getting another motherboard and processor and don't want
to do the whole reinstall thing. Having to chase down all my
settings and such, but also that I'll lose McAffee.

Douglas





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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT

The tires were just replaced and wear was even --

Are there any bushings that are easy to replace without pulling everything 
apart? Or is it not practical to do things a little at a time?


 thx -

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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:17 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

Biggest thing to notice is the camber of the rear tires or any 
squirrelyness in handling


Thx Loren - my '91 300D just turned 176K so it's time for me to inspect 
things around the rear end -


LarryT

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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

My 87 300 D had the lower wheel carrier bushing totally crapped out at 
160K  By 180k the links were going bad.



About how long does it take to go thru the rear suspension bushings/etc?
(on the 124).

thx
LarryT
91 300D

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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

The 126 is the same as the 123 except for the size.  Same mounts, etc, 
same hassles.


The W124 is completely different -- multilink suspension (and you 
probably need to replace them all) plus four subframe mounts, two front 
and two rear (not the same).  It can be done by jacking up the  rear 
and dropping one side at a time, then using a puller/pusher to  remove 
and install the mounts.


Diff is held on by two steel and rubber inserts in the subframe at the 
rear and a pair of rubber mounts between plates up front. Rear mounts 
must be removed to the front (they are tapered and won't come  out the 
back) and they are always very stuck.  Best course is to use  an air 
chisel to collapse the steel ring to get them out, then pull  the new 
ones in.  You can hang the diff on a jack while you are doing  this and 
leave the axles installed.


This is a job I was going to tackle on the old 300D when it got 
smashed, and will be doing next month on the new one (and an evaporator 
transplant, oh joy!)


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
If your rear tires are wearing evenly, just keep an eye on it every 6 
months or so.  No use doing anything when it is all working 
correctly.  The common advice is to replace everything at once, then 
it should be good for another 15-20 years or so.



The tires were just replaced and wear was even --

Are there any bushings that are easy to replace without pulling 
everything apart? Or is it not practical to do things a little at a 
time?


 thx -

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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:17 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

Biggest thing to notice is the camber of the rear tires or any 
squirrelyness in handling


Thx Loren - my '91 300D just turned 176K so it's time for me to 
inspect things around the rear end -


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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

My 87 300 D had the lower wheel carrier bushing totally crapped 
out at 160K  By 180k the links were going bad.



About how long does it take to go thru the rear suspension bushings/etc?
(on the 124).

thx
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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

The 126 is the same as the 123 except for the size.  Same 
mounts, etc, same hassles.


The W124 is completely different -- multilink suspension (and 
you probably need to replace them all) plus four subframe 
mounts, two front and two rear (not the same).  It can be done 
by jacking up the  rear and dropping one side at a time, then 
using a puller/pusher to  remove and install the mounts.


Diff is held on by two steel and rubber inserts in the subframe 
at the rear and a pair of rubber mounts between plates up 
front. Rear mounts must be removed to the front (they are 
tapered and won't come  out the back) and they are always very 
stuck.  Best course is to use  an air chisel to collapse the 
steel ring to get them out, then pull  the new ones in.  You 
can hang the diff on a jack while you are doing  this and leave 
the axles installed.


This is a job I was going to tackle on the old 300D when it got 
smashed, and will be doing next month on the new one (and an 
evaporator transplant, oh joy!)


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread WILTON
Congratulations to all!  How 'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a 
hassle?  BTW, don't believe  all that Bruce has taught you, and please 
promise that you'll stay to the right when driving.  ;


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:56 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June


Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates (buddies 
in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary school based 
competition and gained second place in the national finals. Which means 
they have been invited to compete in the international finals to be held 
in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, daughter 
and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce Willis 
movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of traveling 
around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over to 
Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the bonnet 
(hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that registration 
and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent US address, so we 
have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been busy 
in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off shore in 
order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I am led to 
believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks policy and you 
can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are in a designated 
smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental a 
better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the HD 
museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between the two 
but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they have public 
transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our itinerary 
at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - New York across 
to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son requested this one =-O ) 
and then back up to LA, with a few stops in between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the people 
of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] 40k miles of CDI Ownership

2010-02-21 Thread John Robbins

LarryT wrote:

How much of a difference did you notice with new Motor Mounts?


HUGE  One of them failed completely... As in, it fell apart into two 
pieces when I took it out.  It was in needs to be replaced condition 
for about 10k miles, but when it started to go bad, it took about a week 
to fail completely. The car was undriveable once it failed.  I think the 
engine was basically bouncing off the chassis at that point.


John

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread John Robbins

Peter Frederick wrote:

Check the frame bushings on the rear anti-sway bar too -- when they
get old, hard, and shrink, the bar rattles in them.


I can attest to this as well!  If they get really bad it almost sounds
like metal on metal rattling.

John

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you can buy the car and I will register and insure it for you.  When you 
leave, I will keep the car for you.


Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over 
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the 
bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent 
US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is 
the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been 
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off 
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I 
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks 
policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are in 
a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental 
a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the 
HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between 
the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they 
have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our 
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - 
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son 
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in 
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the 
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
if you want to see the single largest collection of guns in the world, 
come to Claremore.


LarryT wrote:

Hi Hendrik -
   Welcome to USA !  IMO riding a train is a great experience.  But 
your plans will still require a car/taxi/public transp.You lose a 
lot of flexibility when traveling by trains are they just are not as 
regular or frequent as they are in Europe.  If it were me, I'd use the 
train for long distances but plan on renting a car when you want to 
visit museums and the other attractions you'd like to see.   Having 
the freedom to be on your own time table is invaluable.


   The weather in the parts of US you'll be visiting in June can vary 
greatly so you may need to bring layers of clothing that can come off 
when the temps go up.  It's still early enough in the summer season to 
have some cold surprises.


The Gun shops await!  Yu might consider Cabela's.  www.cabelas.com has 
a listing of all their stores - hopefully one will be near your route


Congrats to your daughter!  She played an obviously outstanding part 
in helping the team win!  ;-)  Good luck on the travels and her 
competitions.


LarryT

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From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over 
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off 
the bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent 
US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is 
the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been 
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off 
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I 
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks 
policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are 
in a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car 
rental a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit 
the HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service 
between the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, 
spose they have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our 
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - 
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son 
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in 
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the 
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600 Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
wrote:


 Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.

$15 a day?! I see you haven't rented for a while.

I went on the Budget Car Rental site (http://www.budget.com) and found
that going to the rental office at the Los Angeles airport (the other LA),
renting a standard- or full-size car, picking it up on 5 June and
returning on 15 June, will be $311.41 for an Aussie (it will be $244.14
for a US resident
-- they do record your driver's license information). So that's $31/day.
Plus gasoline costs. That is down from what it was a few years ago (which
was $60 - 70/day).

 You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally
 (LA to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).

Now that's a good suggestion. I prefer travelling Southwest Airlines
(http://www.southwest.com) when possible. The airports from/to which they
fly are listed at
http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?tabType=routeMapint=GSUBNAV-AIR-ROUTEMAP
 ,
and includes Los Angeles, Chicago Midway, Milwaukee, La Guardia and Las
Vegas.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] MB repair, maintenance manual

2010-02-21 Thread P. Prud'homme
Thank you for your insights. I appreciate it. I think that in conjunction with 
every other manual and figuring out how things work is probably a good bet.
--PT

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:04:42 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB repair, maintenance manual
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

For the 110/111 I had a chilton and a Haines.  each had holes, but 
with both, I could figure out everything I needed to.

I bought a 123 paper manual set on here from somebody that was 
getting rid of them.  Only used them once, to set the timing on a 
616.They had the injection timing spec.  By the time I got them, 
I have done nearly everything i needed a reference for.  One nice 
things about the 123 is that you really don't need a manual if you 
have worked on other cars.  I don't want to part with them though, 
because they have a lot of specs for things.

The vintage Chilton's I have for the Frankenheap is
not bad.  That, in conjunction with every other manual
I have, is all I need!  :-)

-- Jim



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the engine is in the garage tore apart waiting for me to do something 
with it, the car is sitting just outside the garage in the driveway.


Mitch Haley wrote:

Hans Neureiter wrote:
Train travel in the US is more like a luxury cruise,except in the DC 
- NY

City area. Quite expensive and little flexibility.


That's a good comparison. The train can be your hotel, your 
restaurant, and your transportation, if you pay for a sleeping 
compartment. Four years ago the food was excellent, but I've heard 
that might have changed. The train ride up the coast from LA to San 
Fran is quite scenic. Trains have scheduling problems, mostly in the 
areas where passenger trains yield to freight trains. It's possible 
for Amtrak to get you to a station after the train you were supposed 
to ride out of the station left.


If you could have a lister inspect and procure a car for you, touring 
the country in a 300D 2.5 or a 300SDL would be quite nice. If you buy 
it in California and sell it in Illinois/Wisconsin, you might even 
turn a profit.
If you relive the POS SDL saga while on vacation, that would not be 
fun or profitable. I wonder if it's feasible to take a train to Tulsa 
and find a usable car at Okie Acres? Seems like that place has more 
drivers than reliable cars these days. How's Reggie's W140 doing?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread LWB250
Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under several 
times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how similar the two countries 
are in many respects.

Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to Chicago are 
probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are plentiful and the market is 
competitive, so you could easily get a mid-sized sedan for a couple hundred 
$USD a week with unlimited mileage.  That would allow you to wander freely 
without worry.

As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine the pitfalls 
- the main ones being establishing ownership (you're not a US citizen) and 
insurance (can't register/title in most states without proof of residency and 
insurance.)  I think a rental is going to be the easiest and best way to go.  
Look into an international driver's license now - I used to have one when I 
traveled extensively for business, and it allowed me to rent a car in just 
about any country.

Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and a long 
day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to consider using 
Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations rather than Chicago.  MSP is a 
wonderful city and has a lot to see and do within a short distance.  It's not 
the thriving metropolis that Chicago is, but you could easily make a 2-3 day 
trip to Chicago from there without a lot of effort.

Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this country.  The 
primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are regularly scheduled 
passenger trains, their schedules are often compromised by freight traffic.  If 
you land in MSP, a train trip to Chicago make a lot of sense, and would be a 
pleasant day trip (one way) with some very nice scenery.

Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy within the city 
centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a premium for staying in the city, 
but that is offset by the proximity of so many wonderful things to see and do, 
not to mention the ease of getting around using public transportation.

You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation there is 
pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex due to the size of 
the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as that area is pretty nasty.  
Make a list of the things you want to do and see and find a place to stay based 
on that.  Driving in LA is a real experience and can take far longer to get 
from point A to point B than you could ever imagine, due to the congestion.

While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it is the only 
chance you will have to visit here, and make the most of it.  You won't be 
disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under were business, I had plenty of 
leisure time and I made the most of it, and I am glad I did.

Dan




--- On Sun, 2/21/10, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
 Congratulations to all!  How
 'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle? 
 BTW, don't believe  all that Bruce has taught you,
 and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
 driving.  ;
 
 Wilton



  


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT
You wrote Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this 
country


There is one train trip that everyone should experience - the route between 
Chicago and Seattle follows the US/Can border and is filled with some of the 
best scenery in the world.  3 days each way IIRC.


Enjoy -
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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under several 
times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how similar the two 
countries are in many respects.


Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to Chicago are 
probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are plentiful and the 
market is competitive, so you could easily get a mid-sized sedan for a 
couple hundred $USD a week with unlimited mileage.  That would allow you 
to wander freely without worry.


As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine the 
pitfalls - the main ones being establishing ownership (you're not a US 
citizen) and insurance (can't register/title in most states without proof 
of residency and insurance.)  I think a rental is going to be the easiest 
and best way to go.  Look into an international driver's license now - I 
used to have one when I traveled extensively for business, and it allowed 
me to rent a car in just about any country.


Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and a long 
day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to consider using 
Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations rather than Chicago.  MSP 
is a wonderful city and has a lot to see and do within a short distance. 
It's not the thriving metropolis that Chicago is, but you could easily 
make a 2-3 day trip to Chicago from there without a lot of effort.


Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this country.  The 
primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are regularly scheduled 
passenger trains, their schedules are often compromised by freight 
traffic.  If you land in MSP, a train trip to Chicago make a lot of sense, 
and would be a pleasant day trip (one way) with some very nice scenery.


Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy within the 
city centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a premium for staying in 
the city, but that is offset by the proximity of so many wonderful things 
to see and do, not to mention the ease of getting around using public 
transportation.


You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation there is 
pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex due to the size 
of the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as that area is pretty 
nasty.  Make a list of the things you want to do and see and find a place 
to stay based on that.  Driving in LA is a real experience and can take 
far longer to get from point A to point B than you could ever imagine, 
due to the congestion.


While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it is the 
only chance you will have to visit here, and make the most of it.  You 
won't be disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under were business, I 
had plenty of leisure time and I made the most of it, and I am glad I did.


Dan




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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
Congratulations to all!  How
'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle?
BTW, don't believe  all that Bruce has taught you,
and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
driving.  ;

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas

you can only smoke when the train is stopped

You shouldn't have any problems with the train stopping, though you 
might have to stand out in the woods or some farmer's field to smoke.


BTW, you know that the US is rather large, and those train rides (even 
if it all works, which I understand is somewhat problematic) it takes 
awhile.  Rental cars are cheap enough (decline the insurance, let your 
own or credit card cover it) though you might have to learn to drive on 
the proper side of the road.  But the distance aspect applies too -- I 
think you mapped out about 5000 miles there Bubba.  Airlines fly with 
some frequency everywhere you want to go, though you can't smoke in the 
cabin (they might ask you to step outside) or most aerodromes, and 
rental car agencies are lined up to take your money.  I think Hertz and 
some others don't have drop-off charges, so going between cities is not 
an issue.


Maybe if you fly first to Claremore Oklahoma you can find your cheap 
Benz, and you'll be far enough away when it craps out that you won't be 
able to go back for a warranty claim.


--R

On 2/21/2010 3:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over 
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off the 
bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent 
US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is 
the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been 
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off 
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I 
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks 
policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are in 
a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car rental 
a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit the 
HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service between 
the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, spose they 
have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our 
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - 
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son 
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in 
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the 
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:

 BTW, you know that the US is rather large, and those train rides (even
 if it all works, which I understand is somewhat problematic) it takes
 awhile.  Rental cars are cheap enough (decline the insurance, let your
 own or credit card cover it)

Be sure you understand what your credit card and insurance covers.  Most
will cover collision damage but the rental companies are now also
charging for loss of use if a car needs to have damages repaired or is
totaled.  This might not be covered.

I found that my insurance co (State Farm) does not cover this in the
standard policy but has it available for a small additional cost.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread WILTON
Rent a car and go wherever you want; don't depend on trains in USA to take 
you where you wanta go.  BTW, the US interstate highway system 
(Interstates/Autobahns) can deliver you at 70 - 75 mph (no-stop-cruise) 
within striking distance of anywhere in the lower 48 states.  Don't 
forget, though, this is a BIG country.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June


Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under several 
times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how similar the two 
countries are in many respects.


Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to Chicago are 
probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are plentiful and the market 
is competitive, so you could easily get a mid-sized sedan for a couple 
hundred $USD a week with unlimited mileage.  That would allow you to wander 
freely without worry.


As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine the 
pitfalls - the main ones being establishing ownership (you're not a US 
citizen) and insurance (can't register/title in most states without proof of 
residency and insurance.)  I think a rental is going to be the easiest and 
best way to go.  Look into an international driver's license now - I used to 
have one when I traveled extensively for business, and it allowed me to rent 
a car in just about any country.


Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and a long 
day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to consider using 
Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations rather than Chicago.  MSP 
is a wonderful city and has a lot to see and do within a short distance. 
It's not the thriving metropolis that Chicago is, but you could easily make 
a 2-3 day trip to Chicago from there without a lot of effort.


Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this country.  The 
primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are regularly scheduled 
passenger trains, their schedules are often compromised by freight traffic. 
If you land in MSP, a train trip to Chicago make a lot of sense, and would 
be a pleasant day trip (one way) with some very nice scenery.


Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy within the 
city centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a premium for staying in 
the city, but that is offset by the proximity of so many wonderful things to 
see and do, not to mention the ease of getting around using public 
transportation.


You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation there is 
pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex due to the size of 
the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as that area is pretty nasty. 
Make a list of the things you want to do and see and find a place to stay 
based on that.  Driving in LA is a real experience and can take far longer 
to get from point A to point B than you could ever imagine, due to the 
congestion.


While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it is the 
only chance you will have to visit here, and make the most of it.  You won't 
be disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under were business, I had 
plenty of leisure time and I made the most of it, and I am glad I did.


Dan




--- On Sun, 2/21/10, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
Congratulations to all! How
'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle?
BTW, don't believe all that Bruce has taught you,
and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
driving. ;

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
I think you'll find smoking laws vary wildly by state. New England is basically 
the center of the civilized world for anti-smoking meaning theres a lot of 
places you can't smoke but we don't get lame about it like CA does.
While you're in LA don't plan on smoking ANYWHERE... Seriously. In Burbank you 
can't smoke within something like 500' of a window or door. Doesn't matter if 
its open (or capable of being opened) or not...

Don't plan on smoking on the train, or in the airport, bus terminal, subway, 
train station or restaurant in most of the states. I believe some states, 
particularly in the south, will still allow smoking sections in restaurants but 
nowhere in the northeast still does that I know of.

Good riddance too...

Anyway I think Amtrak is a pretty good, relatively civilized way to travel but 
plan on it being at least a little slower than any reported timetable. I know 
nothing of Chi-town and the surround, I'm sure some of our locals (Mao and 
Luther) will pipe up on it.

In Vegas be sure to check out the Gold and Silver Pawnshop of Pawnstars fame. 
Apparently there are some fantastic sub$100 rooms to be had this year at good 
hotels.Theres a tapas place on Paradise Blvd thats worth checking out, food 
gets cheaper the farther you get from the strip, Paradise is roughly parallel 
to the strip but 2 streets over. Renting a car in Vegas only makes sense if 
you're not going to be on the strip. The traffic on the strip is terrible... 
Cabs in Vegas are the most expensive I've ever seen (2-3x New York) every ride 
will cost at least $10.

LA covers a huge area both good and bad. What I'd guess you really want to see 
is Hollywood. Theres a decent Comfort Inn just of Hollywood Blvd thats 
relatively inexpensive while being within walking distance for stuff like 
Hollywood Blvd. A car rental in LA isn't a bad idea, get one with GPS though I 
always have a helluva time finding the car return at LAX. LAX is by the way one 
of the better airports to travel through, so is Vegas although the landings in 
Vegas can be epic depending on the winds.

I dunno anything about huge gunshops, I think thats probably a southern thing. 
I try to avoid huge anythings...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:26:11 +1030
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahhh, you'll find a line in the rental agreement that says we get to rape you 
if we catch you smoking in the car. Our corporate rental agency is Avis and I 
think its like $300 cleaning fee.

I approve of that, I've had some really smelly rentals. In fact Avis owes me a 
free rental right now because of that.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600
From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID:
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Train travel in the US is more like a luxury cruise,except in the DC - NY
City area. Quite expensive and little flexibility.
Also local public transportation is still in very fine print around here.
The best way to sightsee the country is a rental car.
Allthough all rental cars are Non Smoking and without ashtrays or
lighters, - but who knows if you dont tell.
Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.
You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally (LA
to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I got a free rental when the next (hot steamy) morning the baby puke had 
overwhelmed the air freshener and when I got in the car I nearly 
contributed to the existing stench.


--R

On 2/21/2010 1:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Ahhh, you'll find a line in the rental agreement that says we get to rape you if we catch you 
smoking in the car. Our corporate rental agency is Avis and I think its like $300 
cleaning fee.

I approve of that, I've had some really smelly rentals. In fact Avis owes me a 
free rental right now because of that.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600
From: Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID:
 f5f376201002210401t5c1e7e6fif0c8ffabdf91e...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Train travel in the US is more like a luxury cruise,except in the DC - NY
City area. Quite expensive and little flexibility.
Also local public transportation is still in very fine print around here.
The best way to sightsee the country is a rental car.
Allthough all rental cars are Non Smoking and without ashtrays or
lighters, - but who knows if you dont tell.
Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.
You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally (LA
to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:54 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Rent a car and go wherever you want; don't depend on trains in USA to
 take you where you wanta go.  BTW, the US interstate highway system
 (Interstates/Autobahns) can deliver you at 70 - 75 mph (no-stop-
 cruise) within striking distance of anywhere in the lower 48
 states.  Don't forget, though, this is a BIG country.

I agree.  My first and last experience with Amtrak was not something
that anyone on a schedule would be happy to experience.

Fly the long hops, drive regionally.  Allow two hours for TSA hassles
before flights.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread WILTON
No more smoking in restaurants in NC (likely the smokingest state of 'em 
all) since 1 Jan 10 - long overdue.
I y'all have time someday I'll deliver my smoking (non) dissertation - the 
agonies of a non-smoker growing up on a tobacco farm and living in a world 
where nearly everybody else (civilian and military) smoked.


Wilton

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To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June


I think you'll find smoking laws vary wildly by state. New England is 
basically the center of the civilized world for anti-smoking meaning theres 
a lot of places you can't smoke but we don't get lame about it like CA 
does.
While you're in LA don't plan on smoking ANYWHERE... Seriously. In Burbank 
you can't smoke within something like 500' of a window or door. Doesn't 
matter if its open (or capable of being opened) or not...


Don't plan on smoking on the train, or in the airport, bus terminal, 
subway, train station or restaurant in most of the states. I believe some 
states, particularly in the south, will still allow smoking sections in 
restaurants but nowhere in the northeast still does that I know of.


Good riddance too...

Anyway I think Amtrak is a pretty good, relatively civilized way to travel 
but plan on it being at least a little slower than any reported timetable. 
I know nothing of Chi-town and the surround, I'm sure some of our locals 
(Mao and Luther) will pipe up on it.


In Vegas be sure to check out the Gold and Silver Pawnshop of Pawnstars 
fame. Apparently there are some fantastic sub$100 rooms to be had this 
year at good hotels.Theres a tapas place on Paradise Blvd thats worth 
checking out, food gets cheaper the farther you get from the strip, 
Paradise is roughly parallel to the strip but 2 streets over. Renting a 
car in Vegas only makes sense if you're not going to be on the strip. The 
traffic on the strip is terrible... Cabs in Vegas are the most expensive 
I've ever seen (2-3x New York) every ride will cost at least $10.


LA covers a huge area both good and bad. What I'd guess you really want to 
see is Hollywood. Theres a decent Comfort Inn just of Hollywood Blvd thats 
relatively inexpensive while being within walking distance for stuff like 
Hollywood Blvd. A car rental in LA isn't a bad idea, get one with GPS 
though I always have a helluva time finding the car return at LAX. LAX is 
by the way one of the better airports to travel through, so is Vegas 
although the landings in Vegas can be epic depending on the winds.


I dunno anything about huge gunshops, I think thats probably a southern 
thing. I try to avoid huge anythings...


-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:26:11 +1030
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread LWB250
I remember driving through VA on the way back to FL with a 108 I picked up in 
Norfolk, stopping at a rural McDonald's for a pit stop and a cold beverage.  
There was something weird about the place I just couldn't put a finger on until 
I realized all these people were smoking inside.  I couldn't recall when I had 
seen a McDonald's that allowed smoking, but after all, this *was* Virginia.

Dan



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 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:11 PM
 No more smoking in restaurants in NC
 (likely the smokingest state of 'em all) since 1 Jan 10 -
 long overdue.
 I y'all have time someday I'll deliver my smoking (non)
 dissertation - the agonies of a non-smoker growing up on a
 tobacco farm and living in a world where nearly everybody
 else (civilian and military) smoked.
 
 Wilton



  


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[MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Donald Snook
My Neighbor has a crappy old truck that seems to break down all the time, but 
he loves it.  He is pretty young and plays in a band and he can afford to do 
that because his Father is a local cardiologist who bought him the house and 
loans him his extra car whenever the truck breaks down.

Here's the point of the story.  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in 
very nice shape.  I am not positive about the miles.  He is the original owner 
and this is just a third car they keep around.  I have been bugging him to sell 
it to me because I think the 95 E320 is the best looking of all modern Mercedes 
convertibles.  But, I don't know that much about them.

This has the more powerful and better 6 cylinder engine, correct?  Is it the 
M104? Does it still have head gasket and valve seal problems like the 103?  I 
know 95 is a prime year for the wiring harness problem, but was it used on the 
convertible?

What other issues do these cars have?

Evap?

Anything I can look at in particular?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, it has the 104, yes, they still have head gasket leaks, yes it has 
wiring harness problems, yes it can have evap problems


Donald Snook wrote:

My Neighbor has a crappy old truck that seems to break down all the time, but 
he loves it.  He is pretty young and plays in a band and he can afford to do 
that because his Father is a local cardiologist who bought him the house and 
loans him his extra car whenever the truck breaks down.

Here's the point of the story.  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in 
very nice shape.  I am not positive about the miles.  He is the original owner 
and this is just a third car they keep around.  I have been bugging him to sell 
it to me because I think the 95 E320 is the best looking of all modern Mercedes 
convertibles.  But, I don't know that much about them.

This has the more powerful and better 6 cylinder engine, correct?  Is it the 
M104? Does it still have head gasket and valve seal problems like the 103?  I 
know 95 is a prime year for the wiring harness problem, but was it used on the 
convertible?

What other issues do these cars have?

Evap?

Anything I can look at in particular?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job

2010-02-21 Thread OK Don
Ahh - I mis-spoke. It's pressure operated. It opens the waste gate when the
manifold pressure hits a given value.

This is the link to order the control that most closely fits the 2.5T engine
-
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=TPProduct_Code=433489-12Category_Code

or *http://tinyurl.com/ylq562o* http://tinyurl.com/ylq562o  if the
wrapping link doesn't work.

I'll try to find the thread on the Peachparts forum with Dave N.'s research
and results.

 So how does one get a vacuum operated waste gate to work properly (i.e.,
 open at the right time, close at the right time)?

 Craig



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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread OK Don
I've had a couple of collapsed engine mounts. One was brand new from
dealer when i installed the factory crate engine in a 115. I spent weeks
looking for that rattling noise till I finally looked at the new mount! It
is the sound of metal hammering on metal - either at idle, or under
acceleration, depending on which side broke.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:18 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote:

 Peter Frederick wrote:

 Check the frame bushings on the rear anti-sway bar too -- when they
 get old, hard, and shrink, the bar rattles in them.


 I can attest to this as well!  If they get really bad it almost sounds
 like metal on metal rattling.

 John


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[MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas



 Original Message 
Subject:OT Water softener
Date:   Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:35:50 -0500
From:   Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes mailing list merce...@striplin.net



I am taking out an old well setup, it seems to have a water softener or
something -- one fiberglass tank like a big scuba tank with some kind of
little glass? beads inside, all kinda rusty looking, and there was a big
plastic thing, like a 3 ft tall trash can, about half full of what looks
like white rocks but they are sorta soft. It was full of water, looked
quite clean having been sitting there for who knows how long.  The trash
can thing had a water line to it but it couldn't be pressurized as it is
just a big open thing.  The scuba tank thing had some kind of timer
controller on it and solenoid-operated water valves.  Anyway, I am
getting rid of it and just scavenging some stuff (like the scuba tank
and controller and big trash can, which will become abig trash
can!).  What are those little white rock things and can I dump them out
somewhere or will they kill everything within miles?  What is that stuff
in the scuba tank thing?  Any good for anything?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey

What are those little white rock things and can I dump them out
somewhere or will they kill everything within miles?


Salt.  Handy for melting snow on sidewalks, etc.
Not too good for the shrubbery, in quantity.


What is that stuff in the scuba tank thing?


Resin ion-exchange beads.

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT
When one of my W124 MMs failed it was a metal on metal hammering - as you 
described - very annoying!  It only hammered at speeds above ~30mph but it 
truly got on our nerves!


Fun stuff -

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe


I've had a couple of collapsed engine mounts. One was brand new from
dealer when i installed the factory crate engine in a 115. I spent weeks
looking for that rattling noise till I finally looked at the new mount! 
It

is the sound of metal hammering on metal - either at idle, or under
acceleration, depending on which side broke.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:18 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote:


Peter Frederick wrote:


Check the frame bushings on the rear anti-sway bar too -- when they
get old, hard, and shrink, the bar rattles in them.



I can attest to this as well!  If they get really bad it almost sounds
like metal on metal rattling.

John



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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread E M
Sounds like the kinda guy who might fix things as they come up.  It's old
enough, I would imagine a number of things have already been addressed on
it.  I think they're great looking cars too.  Years ago when I was in the
club, and guy sold a mint mint mint SL280 to buy a new E320 convertible at
the time.  I think a few here had some sportline option or something.  I
remember one guy had a coupe, which I think had a 23 valve head or
something, different suspension and seats, etc.  I think the standard M104
is a 16 valve engine ?

Anyway, if you really want it, keep bugging him, or reminding him you would
like first chance to buy it should he ever decide to sell.  I've got a few
cars that way.  For me, it's preferable to see something you really like,
and offer to buy it, than trying to sort through all the for sale junk out
there with the hope you'll find one you like.

Good luck.

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2010 14:43, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 My Neighbor has a crappy old truck that seems to break down all the time,
 but he loves it.  He is pretty young and plays in a band and he can afford
 to do that because his Father is a local cardiologist who bought him the
 house and loans him his extra car whenever the truck breaks down.

 Here's the point of the story.  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is
 in very nice shape.  I am not positive about the miles.  He is the original
 owner and this is just a third car they keep around.  I have been bugging
 him to sell it to me because I think the 95 E320 is the best looking of all
 modern Mercedes convertibles.  But, I don't know that much about them.

 This has the more powerful and better 6 cylinder engine, correct?  Is it
 the M104? Does it still have head gasket and valve seal problems like the
 103?  I know 95 is a prime year for the wiring harness problem, but was it
 used on the convertible?

 What other issues do these cars have?

 Evap?

 Anything I can look at in particular?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in very nice shape.  I am not 
 positive about
 the miles.  He is the original owner and this is just a third car they keep 
 around.

I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds like
they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it
is.  The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111
cabriolet ('68-'71? 280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
$10,000 on up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Google is my friend -- I read about those systems, guess I could take 
the salt to the beach or dump it by the marsh (our blizzard last 
Saturday was about 1/2!) or put it in the trash.  The little beads can 
just go wherever I guess.  Or I have a lifetime supply of seasoning if I 
live 200 years.


--R

On 2/21/2010 4:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

What are those little white rock things and can I dump them out
somewhere or will they kill everything within miles?


Salt.  Handy for melting snow on sidewalks, etc.
Not too good for the shrubbery, in quantity.


What is that stuff in the scuba tank thing?


Resin ion-exchange beads.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
 indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
 the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
 $10,000 on up.

I forgot to say that if it's green or blue, with tan or brown leather
and a tan top, I want to buy it if you don't!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
Google is my friend -- I read about those systems, guess I could take 
the salt to the beach or dump it by the marsh 


Or make a salt lick for the deer.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote: I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds 
like they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it is.  
The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111 cabriolet ('68-'71? 
280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any indication, the car should sell 
for anywhere from twice to ten times the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 
sedan of the same year--i.e. $10,000 on up.

Boy, I hope they don't think it is worth that much!  I was hoping to pay no 
more than $7500 and only that much if it has low miles.  You are right, these 
cars are getting very pricey and they are hard to find.  There is one for sale 
here in town for $20K and its got 90K miles.  Well, I will keep bugging him 
about the car.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Donald Snook wrote:


Boy, I hope they don't think it is worth that much!


I just checked Edmunds.com.
I asked for a quote on one with 125k, clean condition.
Came up with 4,000 trade, $7000 retail, $5000 private party, including a $400 
premium for low mileage on a 15 year old car.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit Kaleb  
and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the end of the  
trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it out for a fee,  
then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland,  
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as  
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car tour  
allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit the  
locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you desire  
and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   Less  
doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.Try LA  
to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  Three or  
four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to NYC.  Go  
down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit I-40 and do  
the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are in  
Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your  
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates  
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary  
school based competition and gained second place in the national  
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the  
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html 
 from June 10th - 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus,  
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce  
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts  
of traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over  
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off  
the bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed  
that registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a  
permanent US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan  
B which is the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been  
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off  
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I  
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle  
trucks policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and  
you are in a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car  
rental a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit  
the HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service  
between the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well,  
spose they have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our  
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee -  
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son  
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in  
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the  
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp 
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
I just had a thought.  Hendrik could look into timeshares if he is a  
member of RCI or such.  There are a few good ones scattered about that  
would allow for base of operations.


clay

On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:41 AM, LWB250 wrote:

Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under  
several times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how similar  
the two countries are in many respects.


Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to  
Chicago are probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are  
plentiful and the market is competitive, so you could easily get a  
mid-sized sedan for a couple hundred $USD a week with unlimited  
mileage.  That would allow you to wander freely without worry.


As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine  
the pitfalls - the main ones being establishing ownership (you're  
not a US citizen) and insurance (can't register/title in most states  
without proof of residency and insurance.)  I think a rental is  
going to be the easiest and best way to go.  Look into an  
international driver's license now - I used to have one when I  
traveled extensively for business, and it allowed me to rent a car  
in just about any country.


Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and  
a long day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to  
consider using Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations  
rather than Chicago.  MSP is a wonderful city and has a lot to see  
and do within a short distance.  It's not the thriving metropolis  
that Chicago is, but you could easily make a 2-3 day trip to Chicago  
from there without a lot of effort.


Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this  
country.  The primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are  
regularly scheduled passenger trains, their schedules are often  
compromised by freight traffic.  If you land in MSP, a train trip to  
Chicago make a lot of sense, and would be a pleasant day trip (one  
way) with some very nice scenery.


Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy within  
the city centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a premium for  
staying in the city, but that is offset by the proximity of so many  
wonderful things to see and do, not to mention the ease of getting  
around using public transportation.


You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation  
there is pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex  
due to the size of the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as  
that area is pretty nasty.  Make a list of the things you want to do  
and see and find a place to stay based on that.  Driving in LA is a  
real experience and can take far longer to get from point A to  
point B than you could ever imagine, due to the congestion.


While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it  
is the only chance you will have to visit here, and make the most of  
it.  You won't be disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under  
were business, I had plenty of leisure time and I made the most of  
it, and I am glad I did.


Dan




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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
Congratulations to all!  How
'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle?
BTW, don't believe  all that Bruce has taught you,
and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
driving.  ;

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
It is a great ride, but has been troubled lately with avalanche,  
freight and land slides on this end.


clay

On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:51 AM, LarryT wrote:

You wrote Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in  
this country


There is one train trip that everyone should experience - the route  
between Chicago and Seattle follows the US/Can border and is filled  
with some of the best scenery in the world.  3 days each way IIRC.


Enjoy -
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under  
several times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how  
similar the two countries are in many respects.


Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to  
Chicago are probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are  
plentiful and the market is competitive, so you could easily get a  
mid-sized sedan for a couple hundred $USD a week with unlimited  
mileage.  That would allow you to wander freely without worry.


As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine  
the pitfalls - the main ones being establishing ownership (you're  
not a US citizen) and insurance (can't register/title in most  
states without proof of residency and insurance.)  I think a rental  
is going to be the easiest and best way to go.  Look into an  
international driver's license now - I used to have one when I  
traveled extensively for business, and it allowed me to rent a car  
in just about any country.


Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and  
a long day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to  
consider using Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations  
rather than Chicago.  MSP is a wonderful city and has a lot to see  
and do within a short distance. It's not the thriving metropolis  
that Chicago is, but you could easily make a 2-3 day trip to  
Chicago from there without a lot of effort.


Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this  
country.  The primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are  
regularly scheduled passenger trains, their schedules are often  
compromised by freight traffic.  If you land in MSP, a train trip  
to Chicago make a lot of sense, and would be a pleasant day trip  
(one way) with some very nice scenery.


Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy  
within the city centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a  
premium for staying in the city, but that is offset by the  
proximity of so many wonderful things to see and do, not to mention  
the ease of getting around using public transportation.


You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation  
there is pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex  
due to the size of the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as  
that area is pretty nasty.  Make a list of the things you want to  
do and see and find a place to stay based on that.  Driving in LA  
is a real experience and can take far longer to get from point A  
to point B than you could ever imagine, due to the congestion.


While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it  
is the only chance you will have to visit here, and make the most  
of it.  You won't be disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under  
were business, I had plenty of leisure time and I made the most of  
it, and I am glad I did.


Dan




--- On Sun, 2/21/10, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
Congratulations to all!  How
'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle?
BTW, don't believe  all that Bruce has taught you,
and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
driving.  ;

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
It is large.  I pictured having to drive between Perth and Sydney with  
stops in Brisbane, Winton, Uluru, Derby, and Adelaide, before heading  
home from Melbourne


clay


On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:54 AM, WILTON wrote:

Rent a car and go wherever you want; don't depend on trains in USA  
to take you where you wanta go.  BTW, the US interstate highway  
system (Interstates/Autobahns) can deliver you at 70 - 75 mph (no- 
stop-cruise) within striking distance of anywhere in the lower  
48 states.  Don't forget, though, this is a BIG country.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June


Welcome, Hendrick.  Having had the pleasure of visiting Down Under  
several times, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how similar  
the two countries are in many respects.


Your plan of flying to LA, staying a few days, then flying to  
Chicago are probably the best.  Rental cars in these cities are  
plentiful and the market is competitive, so you could easily get a  
mid-sized sedan for a couple hundred $USD a week with unlimited  
mileage.  That would allow you to wander freely without worry.


As for buying a car and then selling it, well, I can just imagine  
the pitfalls - the main ones being establishing ownership (you're  
not a US citizen) and insurance (can't register/title in most states  
without proof of residency and insurance.)  I think a rental is  
going to be the easiest and best way to go.  Look into an  
international driver's license now - I used to have one when I  
traveled extensively for business, and it allowed me to rent a car  
in just about any country.


Check your maps - LaCrosse is on the western edge of Wisconsin, and  
a long day's drive from Milwaukee or Chicago.  You might want to  
consider using Minneapolis/St. Paul for your base of operations  
rather than Chicago.  MSP is a wonderful city and has a lot to see  
and do within a short distance. It's not the thriving metropolis  
that Chicago is, but you could easily make a 2-3 day trip to Chicago  
from there without a lot of effort.


Trains, while they are available, are somewhat iffy in this  
country.  The primary rail traffic is freight, and while there are  
regularly scheduled passenger trains, their schedules are often  
compromised by freight traffic. If you land in MSP, a train trip to  
Chicago make a lot of sense, and would be a pleasant day trip (one  
way) with some very nice scenery.


Public transportation in most larger cities is cheap and easy within  
the city centers.  If you go to Chicago you will pay a premium for  
staying in the city, but that is offset by the proximity of so many  
wonderful things to see and do, not to mention the ease of getting  
around using public transportation.


You'll definitely need a car in LA, as the public transportation  
there is pretty lousy, not to mention the logistics are so complex  
due to the size of the area.  You don't want to stay around LAX, as  
that area is pretty nasty. Make a list of the things you want to do  
and see and find a place to stay based on that.  Driving in LA is a  
real experience and can take far longer to get from point A to  
point B than you could ever imagine, due to the congestion.


While you are probably working within a budget, treat this as if it  
is the only chance you will have to visit here, and make the most of  
it.  You won't be disappointed.  Even though my trips Down Under  
were business, I had plenty of leisure time and I made the most of  
it, and I am glad I did.


Dan




--- On Sun, 2/21/10, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
Congratulations to all! How
'bout renting a car if buying is too much of a hassle?
BTW, don't believe all that Bruce has taught you,
and please promise that you'll stay to the right when
driving. ;

Wilton







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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Well we have plenty of those, so I guess they might like it (though 
there is plenty of salt water around for them)


--R

On 2/21/2010 4:44 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
Google is my friend -- I read about those systems, guess I could take 
the salt to the beach or dump it by the marsh 


Or make a salt lick for the deer.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I think I40 is closed at the NC/TN border due to a rockslide in the 
mountains.  It was in Dec, don't know if they have cleared it yet or 
not.  Google maps shows it as missing.  H


--R

On 2/21/2010 5:49 PM, Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit Kaleb 
and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the end of the 
trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it out for a fee, 
then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland, 
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as 
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car tour 
allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit the 
locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you desire 
and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   Less 
doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.Try LA 
to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  Three or 
four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to NYC.  Go 
down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit I-40 and do 
the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are in 
Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over 
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off 
the bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent 
US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is 
the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been 
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off 
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I 
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks 
policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are 
in a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car 
rental a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit 
the HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service 
between the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, 
spose they have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our 
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - 
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son 
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in 
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay attention :-)

Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the 
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this 
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through 
customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service 
to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that 
it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by 
train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - 
but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would 
prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las 
Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa 
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have 
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service 
for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to 
go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay


Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit Kaleb 
and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the end of the 
trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it out for a fee, 
then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland, 
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as 
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car tour 
allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit the 
locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you desire 
and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   Less 
doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.Try LA 
to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  Three or 
four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to NYC.  Go 
down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit I-40 and do 
the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are in 
Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your little 
backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th - 
13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts of 
traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly over 
to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star hanging off 
the bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more has revealed that 
registration and insurance is a nightmare to get without a permanent 
US address, so we have shelved that idea and gone to plan B which is 
the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have been 
busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles off 
shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore but I 
am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their cattle trucks 
policy and you can only smoke when the train is stopped and you are 
in a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car 
rental a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit 
the HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service 
between the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well, 
spose they have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our 
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee - 
New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old Son 
requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few stops in 
between I guess.

I'll probably have more questions 

Re: [MBZ] Delivery Valve Repair Job

2010-02-21 Thread LarryT

OK - I need your help again.  I bled the fuel lines some more - it's odd
that several of the lines spurt 2' in the air but a couple seem to dribble.
Maybe I didn't have them loosened equally?  It did reduce the noise though.

   Anyway - on cyl.'s #3  #5, I noticed a bubbling - like air was escaping
and mixing with the stream of fuel running down.  The area where the
Injector screws into the head seems to screw into what looks to be a flange.
It's a dark metal against the shiny aluminum head.   I haven't been able to
find anything in the WSM to show what the injectors look like - except for
tj

   Well, I found the injectors (Nozzle Holders) in the WSM but nothing
showing how the injectors screw into the head - or what the flanges look
like either.

   Anyway, the fuel flows down the injectors and around the base - around
the flange thing and then bubbles form  - I was hoping I was wrong but it
keeps doing it.I guess I never saw it (the fuel / bubbles) before
because it never had fuel around the base of the injector...

   Any idea what the problem might be - or even *if* it's a problem.  Can
these flange things be tightened to seal them again the head?  Is there a
gasket or o-ring under the flange thingie?

   Are they screwed into the head?  Screwed onto the injectors?  Pressed
into the head?  or what?

TIA -
LarryT
'91 300D

OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Short bit of PVC pipe and a metal plate will do coming out, you need  
some washers and probably the correct sized pipe to pull the new ones  
in.


There are MB tools, but you can improvise.  Key point is to push on  
the housing going in, not the inner part so you don't run the risk of  
tearing the rubber (the front ones are gel filled now).


They are much like the front subframe bushing on the W115/W107.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery Valve Repair Job

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup.  You have leaking prechambers, either at the injector to pre- 
chamber seal, or worse, the prechamber to head seal.


The flange you see is a threaded fitting that screws into the head  
and holds the pre-chambers in place.  The injector screws into the  
pre-chamber.


Check to see if the bubbles are appearing around the injector body  
thread, or around the outside of the pre-chamber retaining ring.  If  
around the injectors, you nees to pull them and install a new seal  
(correctly).


I have this problem on the 300D -- I hope to fix it before my trip to  
DC this spring.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 I just checked Edmunds.com.
 I asked for a quote on one with 125k, clean condition.
 Came up with 4,000 trade, $7000 retail, $5000 private party, including a
 $400 premium for low mileage on a 15 year old car.


I really think that's low, unless every person trying to sell one on
CL is totally deluded.  (Not impossible!)  Google e320 cabriolet
site:craigslist.org---the great majority of ads seem to be asking
around $15,000.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Check out Greyhound Bus Lines (called Ridin' da dog) for buses.  They 
go about everywhere.  And as a free bonus you get quite the sociological 
education from your fellow passengers.


There is a train that goes from O'Hare (Chicago) to downtown, pretty 
easy ride.  There are some nice things to do in Chicago (Museum of 
Science and Industry), art museums, some great pizza places there too.


I would not take a train from Chicago to NY -- that route is probably 
one of the worst for performance given all the cities it would go 
through.  You could do that in a 2 day drive (or maybe 16 hr straight 
through).  The only part that would be half attractive is through the 
mountains.  Or jump on a plane and it is maybe 3 hr flt and you don't 
have to deal with it (having dealt with it numerous times -- it gets old 
after about 2 hours).


One of those Amtrak (our only passenger train line, run by the gummint 
if that gives you a clue) trains that goes across the west is supposed 
to be in some pretty country, esp through the Rockies, maybe from 
Chicago on west?  I think there is one that goes across Canada too, that 
might actually be better to take -- pop up to Toronto or Montreal from 
NYC and then do it.  Maybe ends up in Vancouver or somewhere, then easy 
pop down to SFO.  http://www.seat61.com/Canada.htm#Canadian


--R

On 2/21/2010 6:22 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get 
through customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a 
shuttle service to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found 
that it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by 
train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - 
but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik 
would prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago 
to Las Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa 
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have 
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service 
for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to 
go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay


Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit Kaleb 
and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the end of the 
trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it out for a fee, 
then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland, 
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as 
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car 
tour allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit 
the locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you 
desire and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   Less 
doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.Try LA 
to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  Three or 
four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to NYC.  Go 
down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit I-40 and do 
the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are 
in Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your 
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th 
- 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts 
of traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to 

Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay

Thanks Rich

Rich Thomas wrote:
Check out Greyhound Bus Lines (called Ridin' da dog) for buses.  
They go about everywhere.  And as a free bonus you get quite the 
sociological education from your fellow passengers.


There is a train that goes from O'Hare (Chicago) to downtown, pretty 
easy ride.  There are some nice things to do in Chicago (Museum of 
Science and Industry), art museums, some great pizza places there too.


I would not take a train from Chicago to NY -- that route is probably 
one of the worst for performance given all the cities it would go 
through.  You could do that in a 2 day drive (or maybe 16 hr straight 
through).  The only part that would be half attractive is through the 
mountains.  Or jump on a plane and it is maybe 3 hr flt and you don't 
have to deal with it (having dealt with it numerous times -- it gets 
old after about 2 hours).


One of those Amtrak (our only passenger train line, run by the gummint 
if that gives you a clue) trains that goes across the west is supposed 
to be in some pretty country, esp through the Rockies, maybe from 
Chicago on west?  I think there is one that goes across Canada too, 
that might actually be better to take -- pop up to Toronto or Montreal 
from NYC and then do it.  Maybe ends up in Vancouver or somewhere, 
then easy pop down to SFO.  http://www.seat61.com/Canada.htm#Canadian


--R

On 2/21/2010 6:22 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get 
through customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a 
shuttle service to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found 
that it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse 
by train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - 
but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik 
would prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from 
Chicago to Las Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah 
Iowa before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have 
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service 
for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want 
to go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay


Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit Kaleb 
and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the end of 
the trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it out for a 
fee, then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland, 
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as 
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car 
tour allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit 
the locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you 
desire and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   
Less doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.
Try LA to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  
Three or four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to 
NYC.  Go down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit 
I-40 and do the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to 
Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are 
in Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your 
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 10th 
- 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from Bruce 
Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and bolts 
of traveling around the states, especially 

Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Other than the price I hate Southwest mostly because I HATE the cattle call...

One time the last seat on the plane was between a married couple. I inquired if 
perhaps they'd like to sit together rather than having me in between and noted 
that I didn't mind sitting by the window or the aisle I got We'll sit where we 
are thank you! so I plopped in the middle. They then decided they'd have a 
conversation *around* me... I quickly (and loudly) told them there was no 
friggin way I was going to allow that.

They sulked the entire flight, I watched M*A*S*H on my Zune and laughed 
loudly...

I prefer Jet Blue but that said I never had to be stuck in one of their flights 
for hours... They don't fly LAX but they do go to Long Beach which is just 
south. The Long Beach airport is not far from the home of West Coast Choppers 
should you have such a mind.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:22:06 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 20100221092206.522cf613.diese...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600 Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
wrote:


 Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.

$15 a day?! I see you haven't rented for a while.

I went on the Budget Car Rental site (http://www.budget.com) and found
that going to the rental office at the Los Angeles airport (the other LA),
renting a standard- or full-size car, picking it up on 5 June and
returning on 15 June, will be $311.41 for an Aussie (it will be $244.14
for a US resident
-- they do record your driver's license information). So that's $31/day.
Plus gasoline costs. That is down from what it was a few years ago (which
was $60 - 70/day).

 You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally
 (LA to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).

Now that's a good suggestion. I prefer travelling Southwest Airlines
(http://www.southwest.com) when possible. The airports from/to which they
fly are listed at
http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?tabType=routeMap∫=GSUBNAV-AIR-ROUTEMAP
 ,
and includes Los Angeles, Chicago Midway, Milwaukee, La Guardia and Las
Vegas.


Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
This was a PT Cruiser and the smell while not terrible was definitely odd. Baby 
vomit is a definite possibility. When I returned the car there was a survey and 
one of the questions was Did the car smell bad? and I thought Well sonofagun 
it did!.

-Curt


Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:49:52 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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I got a free rental when the next (hot steamy) morning the baby puke had 
overwhelmed the air freshener and when I got in the car I nearly 
contributed to the existing stench.

--R

On 2/21/2010 1:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Ahhh, you'll find a line in the rental agreement that says we get to
rape you if we catch you smoking in the car. Our corporate rental
agency is Avis and I think its like $300 cleaning fee.

 I approve of that, I've had some really smelly rentals. In fact Avis owes me 
 a free rental right now because of that.

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ah the joys of flying... 
Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner of our national carrier 
Qantas.


Curt Raymond wrote:

Other than the price I hate Southwest mostly because I HATE the cattle call...

One time the last seat on the plane was between a married couple. I inquired if perhaps 
they'd like to sit together rather than having me in between and noted that I didn't mind 
sitting by the window or the aisle I got We'll sit where we are thank you! so 
I plopped in the middle. They then decided they'd have a conversation *around* me... I 
quickly (and loudly) told them there was no friggin way I was going to allow that.

They sulked the entire flight, I watched M*A*S*H on my Zune and laughed 
loudly...

I prefer Jet Blue but that said I never had to be stuck in one of their flights 
for hours... They don't fly LAX but they do go to Long Beach which is just 
south. The Long Beach airport is not far from the home of West Coast Choppers 
should you have such a mind.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:22:06 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 20100221092206.522cf613.diese...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600 Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
wrote:


  

Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.



$15 a day?! I see you haven't rented for a while.

I went on the Budget Car Rental site (http://www.budget.com) and found
that going to the rental office at the Los Angeles airport (the other LA),
renting a standard- or full-size car, picking it up on 5 June and
returning on 15 June, will be $311.41 for an Aussie (it will be $244.14
for a US resident
-- they do record your driver's license information). So that's $31/day.
Plus gasoline costs. That is down from what it was a few years ago (which
was $60 - 70/day).

  

You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally
(LA to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).



Now that's a good suggestion. I prefer travelling Southwest Airlines
(http://www.southwest.com) when possible. The airports from/to which they
fly are listed at
http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?tabType=routeMap∫=GSUBNAV-AIR-ROUTEMAP
 ,
and includes Los Angeles, Chicago Midway, Milwaukee, La Guardia and Las
Vegas.


Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
I haven't flown since the idiot tried to use his bloomers to blow up the plane 
but 2 hours is probably excessive for in-country flights. 1 hour is in most 
cases plenty, the security lines move pretty quick. Have your ducks in a row 
(read the TSA website before you fly) and watch the line you pick.
The one to look out for is the older gentleman with a navy ship hat that has 
pins in it. You know the one, where I come from we call them Gomers. 
Invariably some Gomer is going to put his boarding pass in his bag that he runs 
through the xray. There are always people standing around telling you to keep 
your boarding pass in your hand but he decides it should be in his luggage, he 
might even say something moderately impolite to his wife when she suggests he 
should keep it in his hands. Then the TSA person has to get his bag and theres 
a big deal and it slows the line up bad. I even saw one rocket scientist nearly 
have a heart attack he was so angry.

The trick to getting through the line quick is to know the routine and then 
keep your cool. I almost always breeze through.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:07:07 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:54 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Rent a car and go wherever you want; don't depend on trains in USA to
 take you where you wanta go.  BTW, the US interstate highway system
 (Interstates/Autobahns) can deliver you at 70 - 75 mph (no-stop-
 cruise) within striking distance of anywhere in the lower 48
 states.  Don't forget, though, this is a BIG country.

I agree.  My first and last experience with Amtrak was not something
that anyone on a schedule would be happy to experience.

Fly the long hops, drive regionally.  Allow two hours for TSA hassles
before flights.




  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Its admittedly been 5 years since I was down that way but I seem to remember SC 
having more signs for cheap smokes. One of my neighbors up on the farm had a 
trailer that he and his wife would haul to Florida (crossing every state on the 
eastern seaboard except RI) every year. His wife smoked and he told me they'd 
stop in SC at the same place every year and she'd buy $1000 of smokes. On the 
way north they'd stop again and she'd buy $2000 of smokes and sell 'em to her 
friend's when she'd return home.
I can't imagine how many smokes $2000 is and where they'd store them although 
they had a very large travel trailer.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:11:49 -0500
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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No more smoking in restaurants in NC (likely the smokingest state of 'em 
all) since 1 Jan 10 - long overdue.
I y'all have time someday I'll deliver my smoking (non) dissertation - the 
agonies of a non-smoker growing up on a tobacco farm and living in a world 
where nearly everybody else (civilian and military) smoked.

Wilton



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread LWB250
Fay,

Having lived in the Milwaukee area and used O'Hare airport for a lot of 
international travel, I can tell you that there are several private bus 
services that run regular routes to/from O'Hare and Milwaukee, if you choose to 
visit there.

Also, if you are considering air travel within the States, one of the best 
(cheapest) and reliable carriers is Southwest Airlines (www.southwest.com)

They are a short haul airline that prides itself on low fares and good 
service.  They typically serve smaller airports in major cities, such as Midway 
on the south side of Chicago.  Booking now will get you some pretty good fares. 
 I just booked a couple of round trip tickets from Indianapolis to Tampa, and 
it was only $87/person each way ($174.00 per person total.)  You can only book 
them through their Web site - they do not participate in any of the large 
travel aggregators like Orbitz or others.  I'm sure your travel agent can book 
them as well.

I'm not sure I would ride the dog if I were you.  It's cheap, but very slow, 
and probably the most colorful members of our society use it.  If you're 
looking to immerse yourself in the culture, fine, but I would not consider it 
for any lengthy travel.

And while you didn't mention Indianapolis, if your travels bring you through 
the area, we are more than happy to put you and the brood up at Chez Penoff.  
We have plenty of room and are located close to a couple of major interstate 
highways, depending on the direction you're heading.  Just let us know so we 
can expect you

Dan

--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 6:48 PM
 Thanks Rich
 
 Rich Thomas wrote:
  Check out Greyhound Bus Lines (called Ridin' da dog)
 for buses.  They go about everywhere.  And as a
 free bonus you get quite the sociological education from
 your fellow passengers.
  
  There is a train that goes from O'Hare (Chicago) to
 downtown, pretty easy ride.  There are some nice things
 to do in Chicago (Museum of Science and Industry), art
 museums, some great pizza places there too.
  
  I would not take a train from Chicago to NY -- that
 route is probably one of the worst for performance given all
 the cities it would go through.  You could do that in a
 2 day drive (or maybe 16 hr straight through).  The
 only part that would be half attractive is through the
 mountains.  Or jump on a plane and it is maybe 3 hr flt
 and you don't have to deal with it (having dealt with it
 numerous times -- it gets old after about 2 hours).
  
  One of those Amtrak (our only passenger train line,
 run by the gummint if that gives you a clue) trains that
 goes across the west is supposed to be in some pretty
 country, esp through the Rockies, maybe from Chicago on
 west?  I think there is one that goes across Canada
 too, that might actually be better to take -- pop up to
 Toronto or Montreal from NYC and then do it.  Maybe
 ends up in Vancouver or somewhere, then easy pop down to
 SFO.  http://www.seat61.com/Canada.htm#Canadian
  
  --R



  


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Or DC.

Speaking of which if you had time DC is definitely worth seeing. I got down 
there just after Christmas. Hotels are very reasonable right in the center of 
the city...


-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:49:09 -0800
From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
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There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are in  
Boston or NYC.

Just my $0.02


  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Decorah is an unusual town, and you will like it, but not sure how 
much a high school age girl will like it.  She will like it if she 
has fun with the teammates and locals, I guess.  Decorah has a high 
percentage of Norwegians, and the downtown reflects that.  It is also 
home to Luther College, founded as you might suspect, by the Lutheran 
church.


In theory, 2 hours should be enough for customs, but who knows.  Have 
a a plan B.


NY to SF by train is unimaginable to me.  I would go part way and get 
off for a day, then go on.  The train doesn't really go to SF.  It 
ends at Oakland.  Chicago to Oakland is a very interesting train 
ride.  Breaks at chicago and Salt Lake city would help, so you can 
get some food and a real shower.  Travelling across the country by 
train or car will give you an appreciation of the diversity of the 
country.


A car gives you the opportunity to meet people in the small towns 
along the way.  That is the real USA.  I like to travel and AVOID the 
big cities, because it is easier and you get to meet real people in 
any country you go to.  I have spent maybe a total of 12 weeks in 
europe, and I can probably count the cities I have been in on my 
fingers.   The only ones I really liked were London and Munich.  But 
the small towns and countryside are great.  I'd opt for Decorah over 
NYC hands down any day.  So you can see my bias!



Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get 
through customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a 
shuttle service to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found 
that it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse 
by train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York 
- but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik 
would prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from 
Chicago to Las Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah 
Iowa before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people 
have offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus 
service for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want 
to go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay


Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit 
Kaleb and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the 
end of the trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it 
out for a fee, then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland, 
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as 
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car 
tour allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit 
the locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you 
desire and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out. 
Less doubling back will give you a better chance to see things. 
Try LA to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown. 
Three or four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to 
NYC.  Go down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit 
I-40 and do the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to 
Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are 
in Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your 
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates 
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary 
school based competition and gained second place in the national 
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the 
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 
http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html from June 
10th - 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus, 
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from 
Bruce Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and 
bolts of traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was 

Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:

 I really think that's low, unless every person trying to sell one on
 CL is totally deluded.  (Not impossible!)  Google e320 cabriolet
 site:craigslist.org---the great majority of ads seem to be asking
 around $15,000.

Asking price and selling price are often quite different... Edmunds and
the like base their prices on actual title transfers.  On the other
hand, it's not unusual for the price to be understated on those
documents, to avoid some of the sales tax.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Anaheim?

So you'll be doing Disney I suppose. I went 2 years ago and surprised myself by 
enjoying it. I usually spend 2 weeks in LA in June, we'll have to see if our 
trips overlap. Maybe I can get you tickets to see Leno or something, I've got 
contacts In the biz as they say.

A warning, it'll take about an hour to drive from Anaheim to Hollywood. I'm not 
kidding. Yes I realize its like 15 miles... At rush hour it'll take 2 hours at 
least.

How much does it cost to take the train to LaCrosse? How much to fly? It might 
be cheaper/easier to fly and then drive around. A quote from Greg The Bunny 
(one of my favorite largely unknown Fox sitcoms) might entice you = Nobody 
likes train travel, all you see is poor people's backyards. I agree and I LIKE 
rail travel.

How long is this trip? It sounds like theres going to be a helluva lot of 
riding in trains...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:52:01 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81c019.4070...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.

We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through 
customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service 
to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that 
it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by 
train - 3 hour ride.

The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - 
but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
 From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.

If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would 
prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las 
Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.

Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa 
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have 
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service 
for them  am having trouble.
Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to 
go it can be unaffordable for the average person.

Thanks all
Fay



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

 Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?

Yeah, they are OK.  You will probably be on an MD-80 with them, they
seem to have a lot of them.

I would avoid Delta even if it means walking.

Allan
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
But that is such a spectacular drive!  I loved the sweeping curves and  
all from Asheville until you hit flat land.


clay

On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

I think I40 is closed at the NC/TN border due to a rockslide in the  
mountains.  It was in Dec, don't know if they have cleared it yet or  
not.  Google maps shows it as missing.  H


--R

On 2/21/2010 5:49 PM, Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit  
Kaleb and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the  
end of the trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it  
out for a fee, then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland,  
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost as  
much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The car  
tour allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to visit  
the locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much as you  
desire and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.
Less doubling back will give you a better chance to see things. 
Try LA to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.   
Three or four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to  
NYC.  Go down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit  
I-40 and do the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to  
Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you are  
in Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your  
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates  
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a secondary  
school based competition and gained second place in the national  
finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in the  
international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin http://www.fpspi.org/International%20Conference.html 
 from June 10th - 13th.
Anyway we figured that we might as well all go (Me, the missus,  
daughter and son) and have a gander at the US.
Seeing all I know about the States is what I have learnt from  
Bruce Willis movies and he doesn't mention much about the nuts and  
bolts of traveling around the states, especially since 911.
The original plan was to stay in LA for a few days and then fly  
over to Chicago and buy a cheap car (preferably with a star  
hanging off the bonnet (hood)) but looking into this a bit more  
has revealed that registration and insurance is a nightmare to get  
without a permanent US address, so we have shelved that idea and  
gone to plan B which is the choo choo train.
I love train travel but apparently the anti smoking Nazis have  
been busy in the US and apparently now you have to row three miles  
off shore in order to light up, well perhaps not 3 miles off shore  
but I am led to believe that Amtrak has a no puffing in their  
cattle trucks policy and you can only smoke when the train is  
stopped and you are in a designated smoking area on the platform?
Has anyone here used the train lately? Is it any good or is car  
rental a better option?
For instance we plan to travel from Chicago to Milwaukee  to visit  
the HD museum and a couple of breweries, there is a train service  
between the two but then we have to get around Milwaukee as well,  
spose they have public transport.
So any hints on traveling or anything will be appreciated, our  
itinerary at this stage is LA for a few days - Chicago - Milwaukee  
- New York across to San Fran, down to Los Vegas (my 9 year old  
Son requested this one =-O ) and then back up to LA, with a few  
stops in between I guess.
I'll probably have more questions for you later, so pay  
attention :-)


Hendrik  Family
who really only wants to see a big Walmart (maybe make it onto the  
people of walmart site) and a huge Gunshop (sort of like this http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp 
 )



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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah its pretty average. I took American from Boston to LA a year ago... I 
don't travel a lot of different places and so tend to get into regular service, 
JetBlue when I go to LA, Air Canada Jazz to Toronto. Oh wait I flew American 
Eagle (American's low cost group) to DC in December.

All the big name airlines are pretty much the same. I think JetBlue is a little 
better but thats mostly because they have TV in the seatbacks.

Southwest has fine service and occasionally you get a flight crew with a sense 
of humor which is fun, I just hate the cattle call.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:40:40 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81cb80.2040...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Ah the joys of flying... 
Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner of our national carrier 
Qantas.

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Other than the price I hate Southwest mostly because I HATE the cattle call...


One time the last seat on the plane was between a married couple. I
inquired if perhaps they'd like to sit together rather than having me
in between and noted that I didn't mind sitting by the window or the
aisle I got We'll sit where we are thank you! so I plopped in the
middle. They then decided they'd have a conversation *around* me... I
quickly (and loudly) told them there was no friggin way I was going to
allow that.

 They sulked the entire flight, I watched M*A*S*H on my Zune and laughed 
 loudly...


I prefer Jet Blue but that said I never had to be stuck in one of their
flights for hours... They don't fly LAX but they do go to Long Beach
which is just south. The Long Beach airport is not far from the home of
West Coast Choppers should you have such a mind.

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Are there threaded holes for pulling?  On the 123 i didn't see any 
way to pull the old bushing.  Could you give me some 
dimensions/sketches so I could build the puller and pusher tools 
ahead of time?  Thanks!



Short bit of PVC pipe and a metal plate will do coming out, you need 
some washers and probably the correct sized pipe to pull the new 
ones in.


There are MB tools, but you can improvise.  Key point is to push on 
the housing going in, not the inner part so you don't run the risk 
of tearing the rubber (the front ones are gel filled now).


They are much like the front subframe bushing on the W115/W107.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Historically, AA was probably the best US airline 
in terms of service after the demise of Pan AM. 
I flew a domestic short haul last fall on AA. 
First time I had used them for years.  I was 
quite pleased.  Most unusual was that the ground 
people were actually friendly, not the usual 
surly bunch.




Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner 
of our national carrier Qantas.


Curt Raymond wrote:
Other than the price I hate Southwest mostly 
because I HATE the cattle call...


One time the last seat on the plane was between 
a married couple. I inquired if perhaps they'd 
like to sit together rather than having me in 
between and noted that I didn't mind sitting by 
the window or the aisle I got We'll sit where 
we are thank you! so I plopped in the middle. 
They then decided they'd have a conversation 
*around* me... I quickly (and loudly) told them 
there was no friggin way I was going to allow 
that.


They sulked the entire flight, I watched 
M*A*S*H on my Zune and laughed loudly...


I prefer Jet Blue but that said I never had to 
be stuck in one of their flights for hours... 
They don't fly LAX but they do go to Long Beach 
which is just south. The Long Beach airport is 
not far from the home of West Coast Choppers 
should you have such a mind.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:22:06 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 20100221092206.522cf613.diese...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600 Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com
wrote:



Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.



$15 a day?! I see you haven't rented for a while.

I went on the Budget Car Rental site (http://www.budget.com) and found
that going to the rental office at the Los Angeles airport (the other LA),
renting a standard- or full-size car, picking it up on 5 June and
returning on 15 June, will be $311.41 for an Aussie (it will be $244.14
for a US resident
-- they do record your driver's license information). So that's $31/day.
Plus gasoline costs. That is down from what it was a few years ago (which
was $60 - 70/day).



You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels locally
(LA to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).



Now that's a good suggestion. I prefer travelling Southwest Airlines
(http://www.southwest.com) when possible. The airports from/to which they
fly are listed at
http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?tabType=routeMap†=GSUBNAV-AIR-ROUTEMAP 
,

and includes Los Angeles, Chicago Midway, Milwaukee, La Guardia and Las
Vegas.


Craig


 
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Allan Streib
Is Frontier Airlines still flying?  I liked them the one time I flew
with them.  Brand new airplanes and a good-natured crew.

Allan

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 Yeah its pretty average. I took American from Boston to LA a year
 ago... I don't travel a lot of different places and so tend to get
 into regular service, JetBlue when I go to LA, Air Canada Jazz to
 Toronto. Oh wait I flew American Eagle (American's low cost group) to
 DC in December.

 All the big name airlines are pretty much the same. I think JetBlue is
 a little better but thats mostly because they have TV in the
 seatbacks.

 Southwest has fine service and occasionally you get a flight crew with
 a sense of humor which is fun, I just hate the cattle call.


-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
Rail Canada is excessively expensive.  Looked into it six years ago to  
get from Seattle to Buffalo.  Cost was $2400/person.  Not sure what  
prices are now.  Great scenery.  Supposed to be wonderful service.  At  
that price I would rather book an ocean liner.


clay

On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Check out Greyhound Bus Lines (called Ridin' da dog) for buses.   
They go about everywhere.  And as a free bonus you get quite the  
sociological education from your fellow passengers.


There is a train that goes from O'Hare (Chicago) to downtown, pretty  
easy ride.  There are some nice things to do in Chicago (Museum of  
Science and Industry), art museums, some great pizza places there too.


I would not take a train from Chicago to NY -- that route is  
probably one of the worst for performance given all the cities it  
would go through.  You could do that in a 2 day drive (or maybe 16  
hr straight through).  The only part that would be half attractive  
is through the mountains.  Or jump on a plane and it is maybe 3 hr  
flt and you don't have to deal with it (having dealt with it  
numerous times -- it gets old after about 2 hours).


One of those Amtrak (our only passenger train line, run by the  
gummint if that gives you a clue) trains that goes across the west  
is supposed to be in some pretty country, esp through the Rockies,  
maybe from Chicago on west?  I think there is one that goes across  
Canada too, that might actually be better to take -- pop up to  
Toronto or Montreal from NYC and then do it.  Maybe ends up in  
Vancouver or somewhere, then easy pop down to SFO.  http://www.seat61.com/Canada.htm#Canadian


--R

On 2/21/2010 6:22 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses,  
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get  
through customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a  
shuttle service to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found  
that it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse  
by train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York  
- but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco.  
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik  
would prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from  
Chicago to Las Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah  
Iowa before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people  
have offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus  
service for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South  
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want  
to go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay


Redghost wrote:
Schedule two weeks for this tour.  Maybe you can head to visit  
Kaleb and purchase a car in his name, then sell it to him at the  
end of the trip.  Or, I would love to purchase an SDL and lend it  
out for a fee, then buy back.


Rent the car.  The train is akin to 1942 Nazi rail cars to Poland,  
packed with future Auschwitz residents.  Private berth will cost  
as much as a fair condition used car with a family of four.  The  
car tour allows you to see a bunch more and you can make stops to  
visit the locals and really take in the ambiance.  Smoke as much  
as you desire and visit all the Walmarts along the way.


Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.
Less doubling back will give you a better chance to see things. 
Try LA to SF up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.   
Three or four days at 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to  
NYC.  Go down I-95 to Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit  
I-40 and do the South and Southwest until you get to the turn to  
Vegas.  Back to LA.


There is no real public transport anywhere in the US unless you  
are in Boston or NYC.


Just my $0.02





On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Joy to the world the mouth of the south will be coming to your  
little backwater.
OK so my hand has been forced, my daughter and some school mates  
(buddies in your language, which I must learn) entered a  
secondary school based competition and gained second place in the  
national finals. Which means they have been invited to compete in  
the international finals to be held in La Crosse Wisconsin 

Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Redghost
I would look at Alaska Airlines.  They are a partner with Quantas as  
well.  Much better service and quality.  Voted best airline and you  
get mileage plan.


They fly to Newark, MSP, Las Vegas, Chicago, most of the LA airports  
and Oakland/SF as well.  Though it looks like you have to fly to  
Seattle to get all these places


clay



On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:


Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner of our national  
carrier Qantas.


Curt Raymond wrote:
Other than the price I hate Southwest mostly because I HATE the  
cattle call...


One time the last seat on the plane was between a married couple. I  
inquired if perhaps they'd like to sit together rather than having  
me in between and noted that I didn't mind sitting by the window or  
the aisle I got We'll sit where we are thank you! so I plopped in  
the middle. They then decided they'd have a conversation *around*  
me... I quickly (and loudly) told them there was no friggin way I  
was going to allow that.


They sulked the entire flight, I watched M*A*S*H on my Zune and  
laughed loudly...


I prefer Jet Blue but that said I never had to be stuck in one of  
their flights for hours... They don't fly LAX but they do go to  
Long Beach which is just south. The Long Beach airport is not far  
from the home of West Coast Choppers should you have such a mind.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:22:06 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 20100221092206.522cf613.diese...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:01:26 -0600 Hans Neureiter  
diese...@gmail.com

wrote:




Rates are ~ $ 15 a day.



$15 a day?! I see you haven't rented for a while.

I went on the Budget Car Rental site (http://www.budget.com) and  
found
that going to the rental office at the Los Angeles airport (the  
other LA),

renting a standard- or full-size car, picking it up on 5 June and
returning on 15 June, will be $311.41 for an Aussie (it will be  
$244.14

for a US resident
-- they do record your driver's license information). So that's $31/ 
day.
Plus gasoline costs. That is down from what it was a few years ago  
(which

was $60 - 70/day).


You could combine air travel for long distance and rent wheels  
locally

(LA to Chicago = ~ 2000 miles or +30 hrs driving).



Now that's a good suggestion. I prefer travelling Southwest Airlines
(http://www.southwest.com) when possible. The airports from/to  
which they

fly are listed at
http://travel.southwest.com/travel/exploreTravel.html?tabType=routeMap 
∫=GSUBNAV-AIR-ROUTEMAP ,
and includes Los Angeles, Chicago Midway, Milwaukee, La Guardia and  
Las

Vegas.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Bah Humbug.  DC is overrun with vermin of every sort.  If you have a 
TV, you have already seen everything in DC.  DC is at or near the top 
of my worst armpits of the world list.



Or DC.

Speaking of which if you had time DC is definitely worth seeing. I 
got down there just after Christmas.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread OK Don
When driving cross country - drive into town to eat - find a local p[lace
with several cars around instead eating at the chain restaurants.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 A car gives you the opportunity to meet people in the small towns along the
 way.  That is the real USA.  I like to travel and AVOID the big cities,
 because it is easier and you get to meet real people in any country you go
 to.  I have spent maybe a total of 12 weeks in europe, and I can probably
 count the cities I have been in on my fingers.   The only ones I really
 liked were London and Munich.  But the small towns and countryside are
 great.  I'd opt for Decorah over NYC hands down any day.  So you can see my
 bias!



-- 
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Panic! (the national past time).
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread OK Don
Now, now - the museums and monuments are good, and the vermin are
interesting to watch.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bah Humbug.  DC is overrun with vermin of every sort.  If you have a TV,
 you have already seen everything in DC.  DC is at or near the top of my
 worst armpits of the world list.


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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread OK Don
There are special tools for that - my attempt at making a tool to remove the
locking ring by grinding down an old socket was a total failure. Using the
proper tool made it simple.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are there threaded holes for pulling?  On the 123 i didn't see any way to
 pull the old bushing.  Could you give me some dimensions/sketches so I could
 build the puller and pusher tools ahead of time?  Thanks!


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 Panic! (the national past time).

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
Its the same old thing where everybody hates something. For me its US Air, I'll 
never fly with them again after stranding me in Philly because the pilot's 
seatbelt broke. At least come up with a more reasonable excuse...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:34:32 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: m1pr3yw1k7@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

 Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?

Yeah, they are OK.  You will probably be on an MD-80 with them, they
seem to have a lot of them.

I would avoid Delta even if it means walking.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D


  
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener

2010-02-21 Thread WILTON

A water softener.  The little white rocks are salt.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: OT Water softener





 Original Message 
Subject: OT Water softener
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:35:50 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes mailing list merce...@striplin.net



I am taking out an old well setup, it seems to have a water softener or
something -- one fiberglass tank like a big scuba tank with some kind of
little glass? beads inside, all kinda rusty looking, and there was a big
plastic thing, like a 3 ft tall trash can, about half full of what looks
like white rocks but they are sorta soft. It was full of water, looked
quite clean having been sitting there for who knows how long.  The trash
can thing had a water line to it but it couldn't be pressurized as it is
just a big open thing.  The scuba tank thing had some kind of timer
controller on it and solenoid-operated water valves.  Anyway, I am
getting rid of it and just scavenging some stuff (like the scuba tank
and controller and big trash can, which will become abig trash
can!).  What are those little white rock things and can I dump them out
somewhere or will they kill everything within miles?  What is that stuff
in the scuba tank thing?  Any good for anything?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
A 94 300CE cab-same 124 body-sold at the Owls Head ME auction this summer
for 11k.
The stealers here list them over twenty sometimes-not unusual to see the
95's for 15k or so around here-what 2 or 3 have been on market in last
couple years.
Lust in my heart even though it is not diesel.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
  His dad has a 1995 E320 Convertible.  It is in very nice shape.  I am not
positive about
 the miles.  He is the original owner and this is just a third car they
keep around.

I smell another arbitrage opportunity for you, Donald.  Sounds like
they're unlikely to know what the car is worth nor how collectible it
is.  The 124 convertible is the modern equivalent of the W111
cabriolet ('68-'71? 280SE).  If prices I see on CL and eBay are any
indication, the car should sell for anywhere from twice to ten times
the price of a plain ol' 6-cylinder 124 sedan of the same year--i.e.
$10,000 on up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote:
 Henny surely isn't going to get off the plane at O'Hare, walk to the rental
 counter, and drive off with a $100 a week car. Maybe Chairman Meow can clue
 us in on whether it's possible to rent for that anywhere in his mafia
 infested city, but I can pretty much guarantee you won't find that price at
 an airport.

The airport is a short distance away, and I can certainly offer to get
you to some of your places - especially Gene  Jude's for a Chicago
dog - when you get here.  I have no idea what the cost for car rental
is here in mafia central, but I would doubt that $15 is a going rate -
but I don't know.  I don't frequent the airport, as they think I am a
terrorist and I don't care to try and prove them wrong.  I took the
train to LA 2 years ago to drive a 240D back to Chicago.  Train is a
nice ride, except I have no idea about the cigarette policies.  Maybe
you do the cigarette withdrawal route now, so you don't suffer on the
train rides here in USA?  I would guess the plane ride to Chicago is
the same price to LA? - do that and avoid the questions about train
travel and cigarettes?  You can't do cigarettes in an airplane either,
can you?

Car rental for a foreigner may be a bit tricky? - I don't know.  Maybe
I rent you a 240D for your Wisconsin escapades.  Then you are free to
drive to Wisconsin and Chicago however you need?  One of the 240D sits
here all day long anyway, these days.  But as things go, when you are
here, of course, someone here will need the car.  It's an idea to toss
around.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay
Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward 
to that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather 
go to the Getty Museum!
We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - 
flying to Chicago 5 June.
We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been 
told there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around 
20million.


Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 
one way been on Amtrak website.
Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per 
person! Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.


We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe 
on the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length 
of Vietnam by train.
Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's 
Hendrik's choice as he will be doing most of the driving


Curt Raymond wrote:

Anaheim?

So you'll be doing Disney I suppose. I went 2 years ago and surprised myself by enjoying 
it. I usually spend 2 weeks in LA in June, we'll have to see if our trips overlap. Maybe 
I can get you tickets to see Leno or something, I've got contacts In the biz 
as they say.

A warning, it'll take about an hour to drive from Anaheim to Hollywood. I'm not 
kidding. Yes I realize its like 15 miles... At rush hour it'll take 2 hours at 
least.

How much does it cost to take the train to LaCrosse? How much to fly? It might be cheaper/easier to 
fly and then drive around. A quote from Greg The Bunny (one of my favorite largely 
unknown Fox sitcoms) might entice you = Nobody likes train travel, all you see is poor 
people's backyards. I agree and I LIKE rail travel.

How long is this trip? It sounds like theres going to be a helluva lot of 
riding in trains...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:52:01 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81c019.4070...@ozemail.com.au
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Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, 
greatly appreciated.


We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through 
customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service 
to Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that 
it is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by 
train - 3 hour ride.


The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - 
but that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
 From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. 
Then driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.


If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would 
prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las 
Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.


Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa 
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have 
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service 
for them  am having trouble.

Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South 
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to 
go it can be unaffordable for the average person.


Thanks all
Fay



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Rentfro
How many days do you want to spend at Dinseyland?

Bob Rwho might have the Disney hook-up

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward to
 that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather go to
 the Getty Museum!
 We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - flying
 to Chicago 5 June.
 We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been told
 there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around
 20million.

 Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 one
 way been on Amtrak website.
 Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per person!
 Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.

 We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe on
 the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length of
 Vietnam by train.
 Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's Hendrik's
 choice as he will be doing most of the driving

 Curt Raymond wrote:

 Anaheim?

 So you'll be doing Disney I suppose. I went 2 years ago and surprised
 myself by enjoying it. I usually spend 2 weeks in LA in June, we'll have to
 see if our trips overlap. Maybe I can get you tickets to see Leno or
 something, I've got contacts In the biz as they say.

 A warning, it'll take about an hour to drive from Anaheim to Hollywood.
 I'm not kidding. Yes I realize its like 15 miles... At rush hour it'll take
 2 hours at least.

 How much does it cost to take the train to LaCrosse? How much to fly? It
 might be cheaper/easier to fly and then drive around. A quote from Greg The
 Bunny (one of my favorite largely unknown Fox sitcoms) might entice you =
 Nobody likes train travel, all you see is poor people's backyards. I agree
 and I LIKE rail travel.

 How long is this trip? It sounds like theres going to be a helluva lot of
 riding in trains...

 -Curt


 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:52:01 +1030
 From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
 Message-ID: 4b81c019.4070...@ozemail.com.au
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Hi All

 Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, greatly
 appreciated.

 We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through
 customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service to
 Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
 I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that it
 is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
 Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by
 train - 3 hour ride.

 The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - but
 that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
  From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. Then
 driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.

 If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would
 prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las
 Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.

 Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa
 before the conference in La Crosse.
 They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have
 offered to pick them up from there.
 As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service for
 them  am having trouble.
 Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

 Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South
 Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
 Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to go
 it can be unaffordable for the average person.

 Thanks all
 Fay




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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay
Not sure was going to look at one or two day passes I believe can be 
purchased, is one day enough?

Would like to go to Universal Studios as well.

Bob Rentfro wrote:

How many days do you want to spend at Dinseyland?

Bob Rwho might have the Disney hook-up

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

  

Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward to
that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather go to
the Getty Museum!
We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - flying
to Chicago 5 June.
We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been told
there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around
20million.

Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 one
way been on Amtrak website.
Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per person!
Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.

We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe on
the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length of
Vietnam by train.
Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's Hendrik's
choice as he will be doing most of the driving

Curt Raymond wrote:



Anaheim?

So you'll be doing Disney I suppose. I went 2 years ago and surprised
myself by enjoying it. I usually spend 2 weeks in LA in June, we'll have to
see if our trips overlap. Maybe I can get you tickets to see Leno or
something, I've got contacts In the biz as they say.

A warning, it'll take about an hour to drive from Anaheim to Hollywood.
I'm not kidding. Yes I realize its like 15 miles... At rush hour it'll take
2 hours at least.

How much does it cost to take the train to LaCrosse? How much to fly? It
might be cheaper/easier to fly and then drive around. A quote from Greg The
Bunny (one of my favorite largely unknown Fox sitcoms) might entice you =
Nobody likes train travel, all you see is poor people's backyards. I agree
and I LIKE rail travel.

How long is this trip? It sounds like theres going to be a helluva lot of
riding in trains...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:52:01 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81c019.4070...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, greatly
appreciated.

We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through
customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service to
Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that it
is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by
train - 3 hour ride.

The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - but
that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
 From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. Then
driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.

If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would
prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las
Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.

Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service for
them  am having trouble.
Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to go
it can be unaffordable for the average person.

Thanks all
Fay




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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Curt Raymond
So the train sounds like a good price. Expedia.com says ~$350US per person 
roundtrip.

LA is another city not unlike Boston where Greater LA will tend to be 
referred to as LA. There are no film studios in LA proper anymore, they're in 
Burbank, or Hollywood or Studio City.

You'll find the trains here unlike Europe but probably not bad. I've only run 
the corridor between Boston and NYC which is a nice run. We also went from 
Albany to Niagara Falls for our honeymoon which was also quite pleasant.

I'll probably be in LA the week after you leave although I won't know for 
another month or more. If you want I can still see about tickets to the Tonight 
Show. A friend of mine used to run the NBC news bureau in LA so he's got 
connections.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:10:31 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81e08f.8010...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward 
to that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather 
go to the Getty Museum!
We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - 
flying to Chicago 5 June.
We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been 
told there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around 
20million.

Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 
one way been on Amtrak website.
Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per 
person! Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.

We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe 
on the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length 
of Vietnam by train.
Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's 
Hendrik's choice as he will be doing most of the driving



  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Redghost wrote:
It is large.  I pictured having to drive between Perth and Sydney with 
stops in Brisbane, Winton, Uluru, Derby, and Adelaide, before heading 
home from Melbourne


At least Aussies are used to wide open spaces. Sometimes European tourists don't 
really comprehend the distances until they experience them. It can come as quite 
a surprise to find out just how long it takes to get from Detroit Metro to NE 
Wisconsin by way of the upper peninsula, for example. Ironwood, MI is more than 
a megameter away from Detroit, MI, and it's about an 11 hour drive.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

A 94 300CE cab-same 124 body-sold at the Owls Head ME auction this summer
for 11k.



I just remembered to check up on that W116 wagon from last month. $23,000, wow.
http://search.ebay.com/270521820113

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Hendrik Fay

Our daughter loves Jay Leno  watches him on cable here in Oz.
Our LA stay from 1st - 5th June is with the school teacher, official 
parent  children. I doubt whether the teacher would let her away for 
something like that.
However we are returning to LA for our flight back to Australia - leave 
late on 29th June. May look at getting back there 27 or 28th June to do 
some stuff as a family.
We would all love an opportunity to go to something like the Tonight 
Show if possible  would be really appreciative if you could look into it.

Thank you very much for the offer Curt.


Curt Raymond wrote:

So the train sounds like a good price. Expedia.com says ~$350US per person 
roundtrip.

LA is another city not unlike Boston where Greater LA will tend to be 
referred to as LA. There are no film studios in LA proper anymore, they're in Burbank, or 
Hollywood or Studio City.

You'll find the trains here unlike Europe but probably not bad. I've only run 
the corridor between Boston and NYC which is a nice run. We also went from 
Albany to Niagara Falls for our honeymoon which was also quite pleasant.

I'll probably be in LA the week after you leave although I won't know for 
another month or more. If you want I can still see about tickets to the Tonight 
Show. A friend of mine used to run the NBC news bureau in LA so he's got 
connections.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:10:31 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81e08f.8010...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward 
to that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather 
go to the Getty Museum!
We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - 
flying to Chicago 5 June.
We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been 
told there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around 
20million.


Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 
one way been on Amtrak website.
Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per 
person! Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.


We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe 
on the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length 
of Vietnam by train.
Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's 
Hendrik's choice as he will be doing most of the driving




  
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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
Make sure it doesn't rain the day you do to disneyland.  We were 
assured ahead of time that if we got rained out, we could get a rain 
check for the next day.  After we went in, the monsoons started, and 
we found a gate and asked for the raincheck and they looked at us 
like we were zombies form another planet.  NO RAINCHECKS.  Just shell 
out another $100 and shut up.  it was no fun to be wet and cold all 
day.  It was not enjoyable and we never went back.The kids had 
looked forward to it for almost a year.  In 20 years neither has gone 
back there or to Dizyworld.




Not sure was going to look at one or two day passes I believe can be 
purchased, is one day enough?

Would like to go to Universal Studios as well.

Bob Rentfro wrote:

How many days do you want to spend at Dinseyland?

Bob Rwho might have the Disney hook-up

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:



Definitely doing Disney - our 9 year old son is really looking forward to
that. Our 14 year old daughter is not interested at all she'd rather go to
the Getty Museum!
We will be in LA from 1 June - staying at Holiday Inn Buena Park - flying
to Chicago 5 June.
We are slowing informing ourselves about distances in LA, I have been told
there a more people in LA then Australia - our population is around
20million.

Train fare from Milwaukee to La Crosse for 2 adults, 1 child USD$110.00 one
way been on Amtrak website.
Travel agent reckoned Chicago to La Crosse one way is USD$600 per person!
Don't know what airline didn't bother asking.

We have a love of train travel: 12 years ago we did 2 month round Europe on
the trains with a two year old in tow  3 year ago we did the length of
Vietnam by train.
Thanks to all your responses maybe driving is the way to go, it's Hendrik's
choice as he will be doing most of the driving

Curt Raymond wrote:



Anaheim?

So you'll be doing Disney I suppose. I went 2 years ago and surprised
myself by enjoying it. I usually spend 2 weeks in LA in June, we'll have to
see if our trips overlap. Maybe I can get you tickets to see Leno or
something, I've got contacts In the biz as they say.

A warning, it'll take about an hour to drive from Anaheim to Hollywood.
I'm not kidding. Yes I realize its like 15 miles... At rush hour it'll take
2 hours at least.

How much does it cost to take the train to LaCrosse? How much to fly? It
might be cheaper/easier to fly and then drive around. A quote 
from Greg The

Bunny (one of my favorite largely unknown Fox sitcoms) might entice you =
Nobody likes train travel, all you see is poor people's 
backyards. I agree

and I LIKE rail travel.

How long is this trip? It sounds like theres going to be a helluva lot of
riding in trains...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:52:01 +1030
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June
Message-ID: 4b81c019.4070...@ozemail.com.au
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi All

Hendrik's wife - name is Fay - here. Thanks for all the responses, greatly
appreciated.

We have our LA 4 day stay sorted. We have allowed 2 hours to get through
customs at LAX - is that enough time?- and have booked a shuttle service to
Anaheim as we are staying there for 4 nights.
I got cheap flights with American Airlines to Chicago  have found that it
is a ninety minute train ride to Milwaukee from there.
Have been on Amtrak website  we can go from Milwaukee to La Crosse by
train - 3 hour ride.

The main reason for train travel was to go from Chicago to New York - but
that means we have to go back to Chicago from La Crosse.
 From New York I have looked at traveling by train to San Francisco. Then
driving to Las Vegas  then back to LA.

If anyone has any better suggestions please let us know - Hendrik would
prefer to drive  would love to do part of Route 66 from Chicago to Las
Vegas - however this would mean backtracking twice.

Our daughter  her team buddies are having a home stay in Decorah Iowa
before the conference in La Crosse.
They are all flying to Minneapolis/St.Paul as the Decorah people have
offered to pick them up from there.
As a back up if anything goes wrong I am trying to find a bus service for
them  am having trouble.
Is it Rochester buses that service that area?

Your smoking laws seem to be as strict as they are here in South
Australia, doesn't vary much from state to state here.
Rail travel is also really expensive here, depending where you want to go
it can be unaffordable for the average person.

Thanks all
Fay




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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 Asking price and selling price are often quite different...

Of course.

Edmunds and
 the like base their prices on actual title transfers.

So they claim.  I still think the numbers Mitch gave are off by a
factor of two at least.  There have been many other examples of the
blue books getting it wrong on special-interest cars.

If I'm wrong, then I want in on some of that $5,000 E320 Cab action.
I'll buy three or four, stuff them in a warehouse, then be sitting
pretty in about 20 years when they are worth $50,000 apiece.  ;)

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Frederick
I have not yet made the tools myself -- you should probably get the  
new bushings and see what you need from there.  I'm hoping to get  
them done next month.


They are held in with a bolt through the center part into the frame,  
so there are no threaded holes.   Front and rear are not the same, so  
you may need two pullers.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Plan a loop tour instead of the criss cross you have laid out.   Less
 doubling back will give you a better chance to see things.    Try LA to SF
 up the 101.  Then get on  Interstate 80 to ChiTown.  Three or four days at
 80mph.  Do the competition then head east to NYC.  Go down I-95 to
 Washington DC, then on to SC until you hit I-40 and do the South and
 Southwest until you get to the turn to Vegas.  Back to LA.


I'm in total agreement with Clay here, except that if you have the
time I'd extend the route up U.S. Highway 101 to the southern Oregon
coast at least.  That brings you through the Redwood National Forest
which is like NOTHING in Australia and along some of the most
beautiful coastline in the world.  Between San Francisco and Los
Angeles is William Randolph Hearst's estate, San Simeon, which can be
a multi-day stop in itself.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Redghost wrote:

 It is large.  I pictured having to drive between Perth and Sydney with
 stops in Brisbane, Winton, Uluru, Derby, and Adelaide, before heading home
 from Melbourne

 At least Aussies are used to wide open spaces. Sometimes European tourists
 don't really comprehend the distances until they experience them.

And Americans too.  When I was in Australia I heard lots of
good-natured stories about dumb tourists from the USA who landed in
Sydney and expected to take a bus tour of Ayers Rock in the afternoon.
 About the same as visiting New York and planning to have lunch at
Kaleb's place in Oklahoma and be back for tea.

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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas
AA gives a whole new dimension to the term bad service.  And their 
flight crews are surly and unpleasant too.  Aside from that, they 
usually get you where you want to go, but it might take an extra day or two.


--R

On 2/21/2010 7:10 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner of our national 
carrier Qantas.




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Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Convertible

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
yes,  most are based on reported sales by stealers.  I don't know if 
they intentionally misreport or if it is just stupididity, but many 
MB prices are off.


In the 70s the NADA book continually showed you could buy a 3-5 year 
old 220 or 240D for under $2000.  I kept thelling the insurance 
adjusters to go out and buy all those cars they could find and I 
would sell them for $4000.  Nobody ever produced a $2000 220D.




On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Asking price and selling price are often quite different...


Of course.


Edmunds and
 the like base their prices on actual title transfers.


So they claim.  I still think the numbers Mitch gave are off by a
factor of two at least.  There have been many other examples of the
blue books getting it wrong on special-interest cars.

If I'm wrong, then I want in on some of that $5,000 E320 Cab action.
I'll buy three or four, stuff them in a warehouse, then be sitting
pretty in about 20 years when they are worth $50,000 apiece.  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 124, 126 rear subframe

2010-02-21 Thread Dieselhead
so how can you pull the bushings if there is nothing to attach to? 
Sounds like the old big screwdriver is a way to go.  I'll be 
interested to hear how you do it.  I looked on Dave M's website, but 
I didn't find any info or pictures about pullers or technique.  Lots 
of stuff about sportline bushings vs standard.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Rich Thomas

You can carry in DC now too.

--R

On 2/21/2010 7:59 PM, OK Don wrote:

Now, now - the museums and monuments are good, and the vermin are
interesting to watch.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

Bah Humbug.  DC is overrun with vermin of every sort.  If you have a TV,
you have already seen everything in DC.  DC is at or near the top of my
worst armpits of the world list.


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Re: [MBZ] Hendrik and Co coming to the US of A in June

2010-02-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I have flown them many times, one of their main maintenance bases 
is located right here in Tulsa.


Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Ah the joys of flying... Has anyone ever flown American Airlines?
All I know is that they are an alliance partner of our national 
carrier Qantas.




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