John Berryman wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today.
No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny
fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny
Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely --
How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go?
Did you try to torque it?
Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got up to
the torque spec.
On 1/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 06:15 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
By the wayare you all settled and back to the daily grind Johnny B?
Bob Rentfro
For the time being yes. I'm Taking a break for a good long time but I
am designing a house and garage that I will commence building in the
I was going by the year, figured the only 6-cyl diesel they made in
'91 was the dreaded 3.5.
On 1/29/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am thinking it is. Does not look like the 3l 603 and more like the
bender engine I saw at the shop
On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Alex
Heh heh heh, turns out it's not the ethnic groups Clay thought were
destroying the cars in the PnP's before he showed up, it's the
Romanians. The ever pragmatic Romanians just use whatever tools
they've got available at the moment, so it's all been a big
misunderstanding.
On 1/29/06, Dave M.
Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today
I'm happy to report that my car does not have an engine driven fan and thus,
no clutch. It also has no aux fans or an AC compressor clutch. Plenty of other
stuff to crap out, of course.
RLE
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 07:02 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL
stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even
better!
Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every
30 kmi or a
Benzers,
The Becker radio on the 82 300CD went dead. Antenna also doesn't move.
Replaced fuses in main box, radio still dead. Found a little fuse or resistor
in the radio power supply line, measures at about 1/2 to 1 ohm. What is it,
and what should its resistance be? What else
The GD's had the 617 in them until '89 and the 616 until '87.
http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/engines.html
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:09:22 -0600, Alex Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going by the year, figured the only 6-cyl diesel they made in
'91 was the dreaded 3.5.
On 1/29/06,
I got Michelin blades for my Dodge pickup just the other day, today driving
back from Maine it rained most of the way and I agree they're very nice.
-Curt
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:40:21 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiper blades
To: Mercedes Discussion
mine torqued down nice and snug, no problems there.
OK Don wrote:
Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely --
How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go?
Did you try to torque it?
Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got
Sorry, I mostly gloss over most OT things but I have a weekness for
anything diesel powered.
I wish all my vehicles were diesel powered.
Now all I need to do is find a donor Mitsu Mighty Max diesel truck to
re-power my 88 Mitsu Montero.
On 1/28/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
I spent 1 1/2 days this weekend trying to help my nephew-in-law
get his Blazer running well enough to drive to work tomorrow.
About noon Sunday, I threw in the towel and bought him a 1988
Cutlass Ciera. Then we got to spend an afternoon cobbling together
the exhaust, catching up on PM, etc. I
19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen.
John Berryman wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 06:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
How about the rear diff PM...
I noticed that it is seeping a tad and since it's in dry lay up until
I get
the caliper rebuild parts from Rusty
Aha! I get it... if that chart is correct, in '91 they made both a
300GD with a 603.931 (non-turbo, Marshall says) and a 350GD with a
603.972 rodbender. Interesting. Too bad they didn't do the same with
the W126!
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
On 1/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob,
When I first got my '80 300SD (W116) in '89, there were different
motor mounts for each side. IIRC, the right side was a little
stiffer to offset the torque. Don't remember when it changed in
90's, but they are now the same. And they are a 123 part number.
Take care,
Chuck
1980
On 1/29/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I
walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me
estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the
uncharacteristic V12 emblem
Chuck Landenberger wrote:
Bob,
When I first got my '80 300SD (W116) in '89, there were different
motor mounts for each side. IIRC, the right side was a little
stiffer to offset the torque. Don't remember when it changed in
90's, but they are now the same. And they are a 123 part
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
when I first read this just now I though marshall was switching to
amsoil
Amsoil sells real good oil. Mobil supplies them with the raw oil and
they concoct the additive package. The tribologists at Mobil say the
additive package is really great for some special
Sure wish I could understand whatever language they're speaking..
Romanian.
RLE
Jeez, you should have bought him the 700 dollar SDL. It could have been
made decent with some labor, a welder and a few parts.
At 07:22 PM 1/28/2006, you wrote:
anybody have any leads, preferably in the midwest area, so we (friend and
I) can check it out? My parish priest wants one. He
It was converted to the Fast glow plugs. The slow glow plugs are still
faster than the loop type glow plugs..,
Turn the key on, pullout the cold start handle, fasten the seat belt and
ignite the fuel (hit the starter) Zoom! goes like a ra*ed ape
At 12:00 AM 1/29/2006, you wrote:
Bob --
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 09:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen.
John Berryman wrote:
To beat the 14mm in, what else. I was thinking conversion 9/16 and the
9 got caught up in it somehow.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in
particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other
characters in the Mercedes font.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
It does stand-out. Maybe
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
When you can
get Amsoil for the same price as Mobil 1, I see NO problem using it,
but
if it costs more, go with Mobil!
Marshall
To go and buy Mobil 1 products is at least a 50 mile round trip and
then half of the time I
Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked
sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though.
Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs?
Brian
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
I got to drive a 2.5td Pajero (US Montero) while living in Japan. Great
setup for that type of vehicle.
Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD
402 horsepower
428 torque
Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks.
James Zavesky
1991 500SL
1992 600SEL
1995 E320
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From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
How does that compare to the 5 litre V8? Some say that the V8 is the better
motor, particularly in the SL due to the extra weight of the V12. Have you
driven a 600SL?
I don't think that the extra weight is going to affect handling in the sedan
as much and the extra torque would be an asset in
we have the 8 in the SL and in my opinion that is the proper motor for the
car. plenty of power, handles well. doesn't seem to have the wiring problems
the 1990's S class has. From what I've read the major problem is the oil
tubes in the motor.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: Hendrik
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the
Will do.
Heater wires should not be a problem. Heated windshield, as in late model
Lexi or Range Rover, can be a problem. Interestingly, I had a solar
windshield in my '02 Audi that blocked my Fastlane transponder and probably
reduced the performance of my Valentine V1, while the Nav system
eBay item 4608220272 is a '91 350SDL with ~56k miles.
Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to arise?
It doesn;t mention the problem being addressed - its a W126 and not a W140
chassis - but the engine is my concern -
I'm not crazy about big black MBs the currect
I have had the best longevity with Continental belts. You can get them
from Rusty US made belts are of all forms of quality, and it is not
usually obvious which are good and which are not. There some very good
ones out there but Conti belts are consistent.
At 08:07 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
yes its a rod bender, with those miles they could bend at any moment.
If it had 300K on it its possible they might not bend.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
eBay item 4608220272 is a '91 350SDL with ~56k miles.
Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to arise?
It doesn;t
What rear diff lubricant was I told is the beat to put in after I make sure the
fill plug can be removed (14mm Johnny B) and I drain out the old?
Bob Rentfro
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Paul,
If it's flaring on ALL shifts, it's probably vacuum modulator related. There
used to be a good article on mbz.org that described adjusting the vacuum
switch on the top of the IP and the vacuum modulator down on the
transmission.
If you're making the Dallas to Austin trip again, you could
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the
240D was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often
enough.
Disabled Larry? I was gone for
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to
arise?
It doesn;t mention the problem being addressed - its a W126 and not a
W140
chassis - but the engine is my concern -
As far as I know, all 3.5s
The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side hase
a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side doesn't.
--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
the wiring degrades! Plan on replacing ALL the harness'. The ETA's harness
is also know to degrade, fortunately my ETA's were fine. Replacing the
evaporator and rear accumulators are the least of your worries.
Are you watching the 1992 white one with the fogs in the bumper? That one
has late
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:49 AM, BillR wrote:
For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still
an
occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk]
usually
stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is
located, and
I don't
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:
The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side
hase
a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side
doesn't.
Could it be for the engine shock absorber? Or a missing bolt? the
mounting
Hans Neureiter wrote:
The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side hase
a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side doesn't.
One side is stiffer than the other when the sides are NOT identical.
It's NOT something you can easily see (that's why
This past weekend I replaced the ignition tumbler in my 82 300TD. I was
surprised that the write-ups that I found on the Internet were almost all for
the w124, the series after mine, which use a different tool and has a different
process. It is really very easy.
I used a hair pin, one of
BillR wrote:
Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks.
James Zavesky
James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay
now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the
problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be
They are all the same, always have been.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Is the or is there not a
Only the 300SE SEL have left and right.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Bob DuPuy wrote:
Is
In a message dated 1/30/2006 7:43:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What rear diff lubricant was I told is the beat to put in after I make sure
the fill plug can be removed (14mm Johnny B) and I drain out the old?
Bob,
I use Mobil 1 gear oil in all my cars.
In a message dated 1/30/2006 9:15:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This past weekend I replaced the ignition tumbler in my 82 300TD. I was
surprised that the write-ups that I found on the Internet were almost all for
the w124, the series after mine, which use
Marshall and John - Thanks for the help. I'll continue with the numerous
repitions, and try to get at that switch, and only consider VERY well priced
140's or those with reworked wiring.
BillR
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On Behalf Of Marshall
Loren Faeth wrote:
It was converted to the Fast glow plugs. The slow glow plugs are still
faster than the loop type glow plugs..,
Turn the key on, pullout the cold start handle, fasten the seat belt and
ignite the fuel (hit the starter) Zoom! goes like a ra*ed ape
I love how fast VW
Mitch Haley wrote:
I was even more amazed to find out the 2.5L 4 Tech engine did not
take the PF47 spin-on filter. There was a 3 diameter oil drain
plug, with a paper cartridge filter above it.
Ah, yes. A friend of mine who used to own one of those cars had some
choice words about that
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was
replaced, no change.
Does anyone know if there is another fuse on the SDL?
There was a thread recently discussing a requirement to add an inline fuse for
the 126 but that might have been for pre 86 and 87 SDLs, I
My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the
interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2
second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle.
Also, at cold start it's very rough and needs to have enough throttle to
Look on the inner fender in front of the fuse box. Mine has a 1/2 inch
square by 1 1/2 box there. Inside it has a 30 A fuse strip, similar to the
glow plug fuse. (GP fuse is 60A)
At 12:32 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but
was
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4608839446
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (230,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Yeah - that is the one that got my interest. It will be a few months at
least before I decide what I will get- something like that or an SDL or just
do a more through update on my SD. Mostly at this point I am into creature
comfort. I don't really drive enough to worry about it too much, but
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4608832854
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (230,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 01:47 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down
the interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2
second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the
throttle.
I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a
lift pump that's weak.
The hand-operated primer pump can start to leak air. Try using it,
if it oozes fuel at all it's a bad sign.
-- Jim
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good
but was replaced, no change.
It is also possible that the blower brushes have given up.
Other than the fan not working, is the ACC system acting OK?
-- Jim
Fuel filters were changed after a Diesel Purge at the last valve adjust in
early November. Problem happens with a full or empty tank of fuel. Primer
pump might be a year old now and is the new style. I don't know about water in
the fuel, I might purchase some addative and give that a try.
Luther,
My cars will exhibit precisely those symptoms when I get a bad batch of bio,
or if temps go below cloud point.
Thanks,
Bruce
Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the
interstate and suddenly feel
95% of all fuel problems are caused because of dirt in the tank.
Empty your tank as much as possible (use hose or pump dsl out)
Go under your car, remove primary filter (this is the filter in the tank)
Have a look it will be dirty all over, clean it and the problem will be
solved.
Joopster
W116
it has been ongoing for several months. I will get the tanks as low as
possible and check the tank screen.
I'm getting the idea that lift pumps don't have many problems in the 617
engines.
~
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~On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 02:55 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
~
~ I've never had a quality issue
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/129741619.html
No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
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There is a strip fuse outside the fuse box, just be in a little
rectangle housing near the main fuse box.
Harry Watkins wrote:
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was
replaced, no change.
Does anyone know if there is another fuse on the SDL?
There was
the screen in your tank is getting plugged up.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the
interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2
second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen.
And you can make one using a metric bolt and a couple of nuts if nobody
around you sells a 14mm allen for what you want to pay for it.
K
what a basketcase.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Further to this I'll note not only will you need to replace the
engine wiring, it is also likely you'll replace the throttle
actuators (two) which have prices as much as $3000+ each, depending
of course who can acquire the parts for you. In reading on another
list it has been notice that
Speaking of evaporator failures, wonder if anyone knows when MB
recognized the error of their ways and reinforced this weak link? Was
it 96 or so?
Which also leads to the thought that perhaps the early 92 and up
replacements were not reinforced?
Thanks
On 1/30/06, John M McIntosh [EMAIL
My understanding was that it was never fixed. The alternate fix was
to install an evap
from a e-class and a baffle to fill in the gap because the e class
evap isn't as wide.
However the internet is full of stories about evaps being replaced 3
or 4 times in the 90s,
so I'm not sure when the
Sounds like it would be much simpler and cheaper to just keep the dream and
not mess it up with reality. Perhaps I'll find a nice 300SDL or just put
some more $ into EM.
BillR
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Sent:
http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598
need another thread about using this? I have a few gallons to burn
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Might be. I have not run into them wielding weapons upon the cars.
they show up with a bag of tools that seems adequate, even if it is the
cheap $20 FAPS chinese kit
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 04:16 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
Heh heh heh, turns out it's not the ethnic groups Clay thought
Looks nice are these W124s any good?? Also can
the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
the paint also. What is the going price for these??
All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.
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