Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Too bad that the letter was put out as it was not what it pretended to be. Interesting that in an interview his commander said that while he had not written that one, it was certainly what he would have said had he written the letter. Somehow the message got a lot less press than did the messenger. I will concede a strategy win to the folks who made a combat wounded vet look less patriotic that a NG pilot whose commander did have those words to say about him. But I am one of those who was happier with the semi-ban on political comments on this list. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. Not sure what Cheney was doing - but given his current health he may have been unable to serve. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $ 1500 76 450sel 'wild' seat colors
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/632621739.html No affiliation or interest, just thought the seats were an odd color combination. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $ 1500 76 450sel 'wild' seat colors
Who'd they buy it from, Liberace's estate? In that area it is a possibility. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] $ 1500 76 450sel 'wild' seat colors On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/632621739.html No affiliation or interest, just thought the seats were an odd color combination. That grill looks awful too, and I'd hate to see what kind of custom wheels are on it. Who'd they buy it from, Liberace's estate? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] If I were a rich man ...
Don - if I were better off I have this one sent to you and get one for myself : http://cgi.ebay.com/Tervis-Tumbler-BIG-T-24-OZ-DEMOCRAT-donkey-NIB-15_W0QQit emZ380013311745QQihZ025QQcategoryZ38246QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Are you also getting bombarded with suggestions about your super delegate vote? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ...
And I can't believe it didn't enter my mind until I saw your replies - now I can't get it out of my head ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:23 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ... Sunil asked: is it bad that i started humming fiddler on the roof? No. It means you're alright. You started humming. I started singing. Bob R A musical lover. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ... On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - if I were better off I have this one sent to you and get one for myself : http://cgi.ebay.com/Tervis-Tumbler-BIG-T-24-OZ-DEMOCRAT-donkey-NIB-15_W0QQit emZ380013311745QQihZ025QQcategoryZ38246QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Tervis-Tumbler-BIG-T-24-OZ-DEMOCRAT-donkey-NIB-15_W0QQi temZ380013311745QQihZ025QQcategoryZ38246QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte m Are you also getting bombarded with suggestions about your super delegate vote? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ...
Have you ever tried these things? They are great. My brother has a set they bought years ago, and about once a year my SIL fills all of them with ice, then returns the ones that sweat for free replacements. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ... Thanks for not bidding.Way over-priced. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - if I were better off I have this one sent to you and get one for myself : http://cgi.ebay.com/Tervis-Tumbler-BIG-T-24-OZ-DEMOCRAT-donkey-NIB-15_W0QQit emZ380013311745QQihZ025QQcategoryZ38246QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Tervis-Tumbler-BIG-T-24-OZ-DEMOCRAT-donkey-NIB-15_W0QQi temZ380013311745QQihZ025QQcategoryZ38246QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte m Are you also getting bombarded with suggestions about your super delegate vote? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ...
I am rather notorious in my family for getting a song stuck in my head for about 1 - 3 months and singing it constantly until [as my darling daughter #3 says] people want to find the writer/singer and strangle them lest they create something else that catches in my head. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If I were a rich man ... Bill R wrote: And I can't believe it didn't enter my mind until I saw your replies - now I can't get it out of my head ... And now you've done it to me... http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/electric+light+orchestra/cant+get+it+out+of+my+ head_20045361.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao [or quite a few hundred million Chinese]. Have you been listening to Rush? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three presidents have run up over half of the national debt since the founding of this country - Reagan, Bush, and Bush. Cut taxes, and spend, spend, spend. How long will this country last being run that way? Where did the fiscally responsible republican myth come from? Wasn't it Slick Willie who established China as a most-favored-nation trading partner and decoupled the standing renewal of that status from human rights audits? If I had to pin blame for the country's current economic straits on any particular person or policy, that would be it. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
I believe that idea was floated in his direction a couple of months ago. I don't think either of them are after the #3 spot. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Maybe she will offer Osama bomo the vp position LarryT wrote: Now that Hillary seems to have lost the party's nod to run - it'll be interesting to see how she responds. History has shown she's not happy playing 2nd fiddle. I understand she's already saying some pretty provocative things. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Congress can't do anything if the president doesn't sign the bill. Can override a veto. And if he _still_ won't do it they can impeach him and perhaps get someone who will. Takes cojones, however. Something in short supply in DC. Billary has them, but I prefer them grown the natural way rather than hanging loosely from the teeth. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
Thanks Mitch - Being one of those ADD kids I often jump around too much while reading and miss some important modifying words. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb - Parts needed
Hi Kaleb - Just hoping you have gotten around to getting that seat bottom spring set for me. I am also needing the under door light and the visors with extensions if you have them in the correct color. Thanks - BillR mercleanint.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 10814 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080408/7d14583b/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs
Not a term I have heard elsewhere, but from it's use here I would suspect it is a reference to the now deceased Sam Walton of Wal-Mart and Sam's Club fame [and money]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - LCD TVs OK - WTF is Dead Sams? On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of the History HD stuff is not HD, and they zoom or stretch the std def stuff (even if it is widescreen on std def) to fit the HD 16:9, so sometimes things are a bit weird. --R Rolf wrote: I honestly think its the history channel as I remember pic being skewed as well. I dont have OTA channels, locals all come in via dish. Pisses me off that I cant get PBS in hidef. Nova OTA with no compression artifacting was like heaven. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: dish, and on their box, it has option to set what type of TV, such as 1080i, 720 etc. Also you can pic 16x9, 4x3 etc. All of which is set correct. Rolf wrote: I do know that they had some funky setup 4:3 on 16:9. I will check tonight as well, who is your provider? I have Dish. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its hooked up via hdmi. No, not zoomed in. I have both regular history, and HD history and of course the regular comes in with the black bars on the side, since its more a square pic. The HD fills up the screen but just seems zoomed in or something like you say, except its not zoomed. I will check to make sure though but I do not think so. Rolf wrote: Are you on DVI/HDMI or component? Sure its not zoomed in? History comes in HD now you know, even though most of the content is still 4:3. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Speaking of HDTV's, I have been noticing lately that I have some of the pic cut off on some channels. For instance, the History channel. I notice it because the H will be half or more cut off on the side, and some of the text will be cut off and you cant see. Same with some of the over air channels like CBS etc. I dont recall it being like this before when I first got the TV. I have not changed any settings, even tried adjusting them both on the TV and the sat box, no change. Is it just me with a problem or are they sending out the format screwed up or something so its not fitting properly on the screen? LWB250 wrote: Thanks for all the feedback, folks. Looks like Samsung is probably the one, which I had also figured out based on reviews I'm seeing. We're on cable here, but I have no idea what we'll end up with in Indiana. Probably cable as well, but that's going to be determined by where the house is. There are still a lot of places in the rural parts where cable hasn't reached yet. A contract ratio of 10,000:1 was mentioned, but I didn't think LCDs got in this range, only plasma? HDMI inputs are a must, and at least two - I need one for my Apple TV for starters. A lot is going to hinge on whether or not we leave our big (36) CRT TV with this house. We have a built in entertainment center that was designed for a large CRT TV, and it's one of the few that still fits. WE were worried about how to make a flat screen TV work with it in the future, as the size of the opening of the TV does not accommodate a flat screen TV's dimensions Again, thanks! Dan You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list
One of my friends, a born and bred Republican, is convinced that Rush is a closet liberal out to undermine the Conservative movement. I don't think so, but listening to him a few years ago blunted whatever desires I might have had to become more conservative. Now one of my friends is convinced that if I would just listen hard to Rush I would see the light, as he did... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, Obama on the list On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: Interesting that you think Bill Clinton had more to do with the internal political realities of China than did Mao I interpreted his statement to mean that he thinks our trade policies with China have something to do with our country's economy. Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I listen to Rush only for laughs. Guy gives conservatism a bad name. I miss Bill Buckley already. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Light manoower
I think the total weight of 2 tons of manure will depend on how much of the aroma has drifted off ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:41 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Light manoower So, how much does 2 tons of it weigh? That's pretty good. Now, lets see how many don't get it. The dope count. RLE ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
Given the different alphabets used [which tend to change over the centuries] that number [and there is some question as to 666 being the number intended - and you certainly can't look it up in English and be sure] can be used to refer to almost anyone. Using the Hebrew alphabet from before or after the insertion of vowels, for instance, or using the Latin alphabet, or Greek will give different results. Nero was the most likely candidate at the time. You can be sure that anyone who suggests it refers to anyone today started out with that person in mind then figured a way to use the alphabet they needed to make it add up. They will pretend they are doing exegesis [reading out of the text], but in fact are doing isogesis [reading a desired meaning into the text]. We can be sure that someone writing when those passages were written was not referring to implanted chips or to a position that did not then exist. It had to make sense at the time or it would not have been written or passed on. Somehow I doubt we want to get into that sort of discussion here, though. Entertaining, but even further OT than guns or politics. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301,111 miles - getting a rebuilt injection pump today - hopefully the last of the big expenses for a few years -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs Let's see... VICARIUS FILII DEI (Latin = the Pope) ads up to 666. Many held the Pope was the Anti-Christ. Anyone added up any of the new candidates yet? Hm... on 4/15/08 15:21 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of here. On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. And in an attempt to alienate the rest of the list who are not ignoring this crazy talk: I'll go on to say that the interpretation of the text that I have been most inclined to believe is that those who have a relationship with Christ will be raptured out of the earth before this requirement to accept The Mark of the Beast is foisted upon mankind. And do I recall that it goes that those who remain on Earth and refuse to accept the mark will be beheaded? - Brian Barry wrote:Actually we are much closer than you may have imagined. My stepson is an audio-visual tech and runs those systems at trade shows of all kinds. He obviously gets to hear what is said and shown in those shows. He related to me, hearing something rather disturbing at a security devices trade show a year or so ago where the plan for future identification will be to implant an RFID chip in the palm of everyone's hand and one in their forehead. That way, when the systems wants to make a positive ID of you, it will read the chip in your forehead and compare it to a retinal scan of your eye, then read your thumb print and compare it to the chip in your hand. If it all matches, great, you are who you say you are. This can be implemented right now. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Makes you stop and think. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
If one is inclined toward Hebrew numerology 3 = a perfect number including the heavens, earth, and the regions below the earth; 4 = the four corners of [or all] the earth, so 7 = perfect completeness [4+3]. 6 is short of perfection [much like a 6 foot plank to cross a 7 foot gap]. 3 6's is a fullness of imperfection. As usual, interpretations depend greatly on the time period one is talking about as such understandings did change over the years. The numerology of the 666 would be Greek [they actually used the letters of the alphabet as numbers at one point [alpha = 1, beta = 2 gamma = 3, etc], though the number of letters in their alphabet did change over the years]. I don't think it at all possible to put every possibility out on the table and chose which one is 'correct'. We have to do the same thing in all instances when doing this sort of thing, which is to start with the answer we want then chose the method that fits the desired result. Like I said, entertaining, but only of use to support a preconceived answer. It also doesn't take much to get me started on such topics. I'll quit. Again. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs My favorite sci-fi author, Robert Anson Heinlein, wrote a novel named The Number of the Beast. In his book, 6-6-6 was six to the sixth power, to the sixth power (a very large number). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
As a self described liberal who supports a flat tax, you need to look at it more closely. There is a rebate of the tax for the $$ amount of the federal poverty level. If you make no more than that [and hence spend no more than that] you really are not paying any tax as the tax on necessities has already been given to you and everyone else [a prebate, if you want to use the term]. Tax is collected only on final consumer sales, so personal, corporate and business to business sales are tax free. No more IRS, no more inheritance tax, no more tax of any kind except for a tax on a sale to the consumer. Buy a lot, you pay a lot of tax; buy a little, you pay little tax. I suspect many of our corporations who have moved offshore would return, and there would be no advantage to setting up an account offshore as there is no tax here. No tax loopholes, no tax shelters. I am sure there would be some problems with it, but compared to what we have now it should be less. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for a flat tax. I will give away my mortgage deduction (TurboTax always points to standard deduction anyway, so why be buying a house?) if everyone would pay x% of income (NO loopholes) in taxes. Let's say 5%. if you make $20K a year, you pay 5%. If you make $10,000,000 a year, you pay 5%. Do the other Democrats know you feel this way? Have they tried to kick you out of their tree house yet? ;) Seriously, I've never heard anyone else who was a self-described liberal support a flat tax. Quite the opposite---it's usually the pet project of people who are unabashedly in the pocket of big business (e.g. Steve Forbes). Isn't a flat tax as regressive as you can get (short of charging a percentage inversely proportional to income)? It hits the poor a lot harder than the rich, surely. In your example above, 5% of $10,000,000 means one less condo in Lake Tahoe, new Bentley for the mistress, or splurge in Vegas... big deal. But 5% of $20K means Grandma doesn't get her heart medicine, or the kids don't get new winter coats. BIG deal. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
SLAPS SELF ON FORHEAD. Thanks Kaleb - Yes, I have been talking about the Fair Tax proposal for long enough that I forget there is also a flat tax idea. That one I am not for, the Fair Tax proposal I would support. BTW - Taken apart any decent 126 front seats lately? I still need that spring set for the seat, and the other stuff if you have it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes What you are talking about sounds like the fair tax, not the flat tax. With the fair tax, everyone gets a prebate on necessary items purchases, based of family size. Bill R wrote: As a self described liberal who supports a flat tax, you need to look at it more closely. There is a rebate of the tax for the $$ amount of the federal poverty level. If you make no more than that [and hence spend no more than that] you really are not paying any tax as the tax on necessities has already been given to you and everyone else [a prebate, if you want to use the term]. Tax is collected only on final consumer sales, so personal, corporate and business to business sales are tax free. No more IRS, no more inheritance tax, no more tax of any kind except for a tax on a sale to the consumer. Buy a lot, you pay a lot of tax; buy a little, you pay little tax. I suspect many of our corporations who have moved offshore would return, and there would be no advantage to setting up an account offshore as there is no tax here. No tax loopholes, no tax shelters. I am sure there would be some problems with it, but compared to what we have now it should be less. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for a flat tax. I will give away my mortgage deduction (TurboTax always points to standard deduction anyway, so why be buying a house?) if everyone would pay x% of income (NO loopholes) in taxes. Let's say 5%. if you make $20K a year, you pay 5%. If you make $10,000,000 a year, you pay 5%. Do the other Democrats know you feel this way? Have they tried to kick you out of their tree house yet? ;) Seriously, I've never heard anyone else who was a self-described liberal support a flat tax. Quite the opposite---it's usually the pet project of people who are unabashedly in the pocket of big business (e.g. Steve Forbes). Isn't a flat tax as regressive as you can get (short of charging a percentage inversely proportional to income)? It hits the poor a lot harder than the rich, surely. In your example above, 5% of $10,000,000 means one less condo in Lake Tahoe, new Bentley for the mistress, or splurge in Vegas... big deal. But 5% of $20K means Grandma doesn't get her heart medicine, or the kids don't get new winter coats. BIG deal. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
OK, thanks. I will continue to eagerly await my turn. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes I have you on my list, dont worry, but no I still do not have one yet Bill R wrote: SLAPS SELF ON FORHEAD. Thanks Kaleb - Yes, I have been talking about the Fair Tax proposal for long enough that I forget there is also a flat tax idea. That one I am not for, the Fair Tax proposal I would support. BTW - Taken apart any decent 126 front seats lately? I still need that spring set for the seat, and the other stuff if you have it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes What you are talking about sounds like the fair tax, not the flat tax. With the fair tax, everyone gets a prebate on necessary items purchases, based of family size. Bill R wrote: As a self described liberal who supports a flat tax, you need to look at it more closely. There is a rebate of the tax for the $$ amount of the federal poverty level. If you make no more than that [and hence spend no more than that] you really are not paying any tax as the tax on necessities has already been given to you and everyone else [a prebate, if you want to use the term]. Tax is collected only on final consumer sales, so personal, corporate and business to business sales are tax free. No more IRS, no more inheritance tax, no more tax of any kind except for a tax on a sale to the consumer. Buy a lot, you pay a lot of tax; buy a little, you pay little tax. I suspect many of our corporations who have moved offshore would return, and there would be no advantage to setting up an account offshore as there is no tax here. No tax loopholes, no tax shelters. I am sure there would be some problems with it, but compared to what we have now it should be less. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am all for a flat tax. I will give away my mortgage deduction (TurboTax always points to standard deduction anyway, so why be buying a house?) if everyone would pay x% of income (NO loopholes) in taxes. Let's say 5%. if you make $20K a year, you pay 5%. If you make $10,000,000 a year, you pay 5%. Do the other Democrats know you feel this way? Have they tried to kick you out of their tree house yet? ;) Seriously, I've never heard anyone else who was a self-described liberal support a flat tax. Quite the opposite---it's usually the pet project of people who are unabashedly in the pocket of big business (e.g. Steve Forbes). Isn't a flat tax as regressive as you can get (short of charging a percentage inversely proportional to income)? It hits the poor a lot harder than the rich, surely. In your example above, 5% of $10,000,000 means one less condo in Lake Tahoe, new Bentley for the mistress, or splurge in Vegas... big deal. But 5% of $20K means Grandma doesn't get her heart medicine, or the kids don't get new winter coats. BIG deal. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Tom, I don't think you have the whole picture on why we have so many Indian physicians in the US. No doubt some might come for primarily financial reasons, but the other quite important factor has to do with the desire to be more than a family physician. The bulk of the population might never see a physician in their life, or it would be at best a very rare occasion. India does have a wealthy class who can afford and avail themselves of such services, but the main need for most of the country is basic medical care. For the government to support training of village health workers would be $$ far better spent. It would not make sense to invest in the specialized education for a specialist that few would ever see. I am sure finance does play a role, but so does the desire to be better trained and to become a better physician. A relatively wealthy population who demand and can pay for advanced services is a necessity for those wanting more $ but also for those not satisfied to do mostly 'entry level' care. Another perspective. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:22 PM To: 'Jim Cathey'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes So, you are suggesting that we place even more of the tax burden on the rich? England did that, so does India. Why do you think so many of our Physicians are from those two countries. Capitolism works because those of us who are motivated and fotunate enough to excel are rewarded. Take peoples motivation to excel, for example - through excessive taxtation, and you will only drive these people to leave or rebel. That's what the American revolution was all about! Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/16/08 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes But the bulk of the tax dollars are collected from the lower middle classes. Is that not fair? That's the bulk of the people, and presumably where the bulk of benefits reaped from taxation are seen. Or are we proposing that there be 'tax slaves'? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 6:10 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and temp fluctuations
Hopefully someone can offer some suggestions here. I have two issues that are giving me problems: 1. The temp gauge usually holds at 100 or a degree or two above or below. It has started to register hot for a time every few miles, starting in the last few months. I have had the thermostat replaced, radiator flushed and the temp sensor replaced [old one was a bit corroded], and this morning when it jumped up to 120 I headed back to the shop and a temperature sensor showed nothing on the engine or cooling system over 180 while the gauge was at 119. Sometimes it jumps [like an air bubble] and sometimes it climbs and goes back down slowly. Tomorrow the cluster will be pulled and the resistance on the wire checked, as well as the vacuum lines. Any other thoughts ? 2. My injection pump has been making noise [much louder in the car than outside, but a stethoscope on the pump found the noise was within]. I got a rebuilt pump and had it installed - but the mechanic doing the install really doesn't have any history on those things. While there are always 3 or 4 MB's in the lot it turns out I am one of only two diesels they take care of. When I picked it up it was already running, and smoking more than before, though most of the noise was gone - or at least quieter and different. When I started it the next morning it was making a fair amount of noise and putting lots of smoke. It lessened when it got warmed, and by the time I have driven it a few miles the noise is pretty much gone [you can still hear it a little bit over the engine noise], the smoke lessens, but is still much more than it has ever been, and the power seems lessened. At this point if I want to get moving in a normal fashion I need to turn off the AC, but it still does not seem as peppy. I know I am not accelerating as hard as usual because I am sure something is wrong somewhere, but it still seems a tad anemic. I also assume that those clouds of black smoke the tend to surround my at stop lights is fuel that is not being burned as it should. At $4.199 / gallon I don't like that. I did get my 250k kilometer badge over the weekend - they do look nice. Wonder if I should buy the $2,200 MB watch from the catalogue to go with it . Is there a 'normal' spot to mount this? At the moment it is angled behind the rear speaker to push up against the rear glass while I decide if I want to put it on the front grill. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'll take them down to the shop in the morning. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 3001k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and temp fluctua...
Thanks Jim BillR Bill, Probably a corroded connection. Start by unplugging the connector at the driver's side of the cylinder head, and watch the gauge. There are two senders in the 2-3 cylinder area of the head i believe. Push the connector on and off a few times and see if the temperature reading becomes more accurate. A little known connection on the back of the glow plug relay is next. The wiring harness for the temperature sender is the same one that contains the wiring for the glow plugs. So the glow plug relay becomes a connection point for your sender. Same drill--unplug it and replug it a few times to remove the tarnish on the contacts that Mercedes silver is famous for. Do not sand the contacts! If these two points have not fixed the problem, NOW you can pay someone to remove the instrument cluster, which also has a circular push on connector on the back. I bet it is the one on the GP relay, since you recently changed the sensor. You changed the correct sensor--right? Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and temp fluctua...
Yes, we used a laser temp sensor. It showed there were no problems with the actual temp of the engine, just the gauge. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and temp fluctua... Bill, I had a temp problem on my 500E.. Do you have a laser Thermometer...?? I merely had a problem with the connection at the gauge. It was loose. Tightened! No more temp problem... Check the coolant lines and engine with a laser thermometer... Even cheap ones work pretty good. Hope this helps.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Apr 21, 2008, at 6:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/21/2008 3:50:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. The temp gauge usually holds at 100 or a degree or two above or below. It has started to register hot for a time every few miles, starting in the last few months. I have had the thermostat replaced, radiator flushed and the temp sensor replaced [old one was a bit corroded], and this morning when it jumped up to 120 I headed back to the shop and a temperature sensor showed nothing on the engine or cooling system over 180 while the gauge was at 119. Sometimes it jumps [like an air bubble] and sometimes it climbs and goes back down slowly. Tomorrow the cluster will be pulled and the resistance on the wire checked, as well as the vacuum lines. Any other thoughts ? Bill, Probably a corroded connection. Start by unplugging the connector at the driver's side of the cylinder head, and watch the gauge. There are two senders in the 2-3 cylinder area of the head i believe. Push the connector on and off a few times and see if the temperature reading becomes more accurate. A little known connection on the back of the glow plug relay is next. The wiring harness for the temperature sender is the same one that contains the wiring for the glow plugs. So the glow plug relay becomes a connection point for your sender. Same drill--unplug it and replug it a few times to remove the tarnish on the contacts that Mercedes silver is famous for. Do not sand the contacts! If these two points have not fixed the problem, NOW you can pay someone to remove the instrument cluster, which also has a circular push on connector on the back. I bet it is the one on the GP relay, since you recently changed the sensor. You changed the correct sensor--right? Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and
Thanks for the additional info. If you have the timing information handy I will pass it on to the shop. It would seem that whatever information they used didn't work. I have to start with the belief that the rebuilders did the job correctly, and that sitting on a shelf a few years' didn't hurt anything either [it had been tested by the rebuilder so it should have been lubricated, and was sealed]. I suspect the mechanic just wasn't familiar with the procedure. I am to the point of thinking it is a connection problem or a faulty gauge. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles [not 3001 k miles] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J52 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and Bill, Probably already answered (I on digest and catching up) but here are my thoughts: 1)You probably have an air bubble, and if your thermometer does not agree with the gauge, your gauge may be off. Air Bubble: park car facing up hill on slight incline with heater controls on full heat (or put front axles up on jack stands), drain off a gallon or so and pour back into the block via the top radiator hose. Pour until coolant is about to run back out, re-connect hose and put remainder into expansion tank or radiator. You may have to squeeze the upper hose to 'burb' as much air as possible out as adding those last few pints. Keep squeezing until you can't get any more air bubbles into expansion tank/radiator. 2)Sounds like pump timing is off and maybe the linkage is not adjusted correctly. Let us know if you need the instructions for timing the pump. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 307k miles Charleston SC Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:48:37 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Two questions, at least - 1981 300SD injector pump and temp fluctuations To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hopefully someone can offer some suggestions here. I have two issues that are giving me problems: 1. The temp gauge usually holds at 100 or a degree or two above or below. It has started to register hot for a time every few miles, starting in the last few months. I have had the thermostat replaced, radiator flushed and the temp sensor replaced [old one was a bit corroded], and this morning when it jumped up to 120 I headed back to the shop and a temperature sensor showed nothing on the engine or cooling system over 180 while the gauge was at 119. Sometimes it jumps [like an air bubble] and sometimes it climbs and goes back down slowly. Tomorrow the cluster will be pulled and the resistance on the wire checked, as well as the vacuum lines. Any other thoughts ? 2. My injection pump has been making noise [much louder in the car than outside, but a stethoscope on the pump found the noise was within]. I got a rebuilt pump and had it installed - but the mechanic doing the install really doesn't have any history on those things. While there are always 3 or 4 MB's in the lot it turns out I am one of only two diesels they take care of. When I picked it up it was already running, and smoking more than before, though most of the noise was gone - or at least quieter and different. When I started it the next morning it was making a fair amount of noise and putting lots of smoke. It lessened when it got warmed, and by the time I have driven it a few miles the noise is pretty much gone [you can still hear it a little bit over the engine noise], the smoke lessens, but is still much more than it has ever been, and the power seems lessened. At this point if I want to get moving in a normal fashion I need to turn off the AC, but it still does not seem as peppy. I know I am not accelerating as hard as usual because I am sure something is wrong somewhere, but it still seems a tad anemic. I also assume that those clouds of black smoke the tend to surround my at stop lights is fuel that is not being burned as it should. At $4.199 / gallon I don't like that. I did get my 250k kilometer badge over the weekend - they do look nice. Wonder if I should buy the $2,200 MB watch from the catalogue to go with it . Is there a 'normal' spot to mount this? At the moment it is angled behind the rear speaker to push up against the rear glass while I decide if I want to put it on the front grill. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'll take them down to the shop in the morning. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 3001k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?
Had that been gallons I might ask you to ship me some. $4.09 here early this week. Still not $100 for a fill but close enough. My tank must be growing also. Because I have lived in areas with long Winters I won't mention it is over 80 here today. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/24/08 3:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some? I know it is only Thursday but there is not much traffic on the list. Here I sit in my office bored and looking for distraction. Miserable day here in the great white north as it is once again white. Snowed during the night and shifted to some freezing rain this morning so not a very nice spring day. Filled my truck this morning and I believe this is the first time I have been able to put more than $100 in the tank. $106 plus cents this morning. Do you think the tank is stretching? I'm sure it did not hold that much when I bought it a couple of years back. Time to get the diesel out of the garage. Diesel is slightly more expensive than regular gas right now. $1.224 for regular and $1.259 for diesel. Before you run up here to fill, remember that I am referring to liters rather than gallons. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:
That makes me wonder if he had another car he wanted to have burned ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad: haha, thats funny Donald Snook wrote: Randy: A bit too odd perhaps, as it has been removed. Care to enlighten those of us who might remain curious? Well, I hope no one is offended (I know this isn't banned). The ad pictured a Chrysler 300 that had been in a serious fire. Then it said that owners girlfriend caught him having anal sex with another man and burned the car. Very strange. It also listed his cell phone #. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ghost stories
My personal experiences are not quite as dramatic, but my father spoke of being on guard duty during the Battle of the Bulge [Germany, WWII, for you young folks]. He said his mother came to see him and spoke to him about 20 minutes. He was not at all surprised when he later got word that she had died that night. My Sister's Father-in-law lived with them for the last few years of his life. One morning when my sister went into his room to make sure he was ok he told her that her daddy had come to visit him the night before. He had stayed about 20 - 30 minutes sitting in a chair in the room, and told him that his family was waiting to see him, and everything would be alright. Out dad had been dead for a few years then, and her father-in-law died that night. My personal experiences relate to foreknowledge with both my [then] future wife and other instances, but are not quite so dramatic. As for how one can speak of these things, the only philosophy that includes such a possibility as part of carefully reasoned thought is that of Alfred North Whitehead. If you are so inclined much of the basis can be found if Process and Reality. Plan on reading it several times before it begins to make sense. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mak Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ghost stories Different cultures have different understanding of these phenomena - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Ghost stories (From another list:) Pete wrote: I'm confused about how we handle paranormal events. These cannot be explained logically, yet I have personally experienced them several times myself. They cannot be explained with simple psychology either, as they are physical manifestations revealing knowledge that no one can know. In my other discussions it seems that this whole world of the paranormal is dismissed without any real reasoning, usually with a sense of fear. It doesn't appear much on our discussion lists. What do _you_ think? Is there more between heaven and earth than we can explain? ... Al wrote: I've encountered quite a few people who have extrasensory experiences. There may be a genetically determined characteristic of the mind/brain since it seems to run in families. Jim Smith (now deceased), a longtime member of this and other mailing lists, could think about his dog in the next room and the dog would shortly come to him. He was a law professor and not one given to joking or exaggeration. Only last week I thought about my old brother-in-law up north with some concern. I asked my daughter to call him and see how he was. She found that he had fairly severely injured his hand while working on a window. Normally I don't think about him or have any contact with him at all. The validation and explanation of extrasensory phenomena will be on a par with the discoveries of Newton and Einstein when it happens, but I don't think it will happen in our lifetimes. John ... Ted wrote: One night in 1974 when I was in Hawaii aboard ship in the Navy, I dreamed that my grandmother had come to visit me and we spent a nice day walking around the Naval base. About a week later, I received a letter from my mother that my grandmother had died in Pennsylvania on the same day of my dream. My wife says that she has had a dark visitor come into our bedroom several times over the past, and each time that she has seen or dreamed of this vistor, it was a precursor to our getting a message that a relative had died: her mother, her father, and my aunt. I don't know if these things or the other types of paranormal events can be explained rationally at this time. Certainly, they cannot be investigated with scientific rigor with the current tools available. But, I wonder if these events are only para-normal because we do not yet have the means to observe and document the events. Perhaps there is an alternative form of reality which we, at the present time, can only perceive in fragments. The situation could be analogous to that of the ancients who could only perceive of a flat earth until the tools and science were available to demonstrate that the earth was round. Similarly, pre-Copernicans perceived the sun rotating about the earth until they had the telescopes and mathemathics to understand what the real situation was. Perhaps we see paranormal events as a sort of hysteria/magic/etc, because we don't yet have the tools and the science/mathematics/psychology to understand a different level of reality?
[MBZ] The saga of the injection pump
The saga of my injection pump has come to a happy conclusion. When I picked it up the first time it was smoking and still had a rattle [it was the rattle that had me take it in in the first place]. I took it back on Tuesday and they went into it once more, finally determining that the pump, while adjusted according to the directions they had, was not adjusted correctly. Mechanic took the pump back off and compared it to the pump that came out of the car, determining that the two were not set the same, nor were they the same pump. That covered Tuesday afternoon and part of Wed. Finally my nephew called the MB dealer and was assured that the new pump was the correct one for the engine, but that the one that came off was not. It seems that when Potomac German sent the engine [they never did tell me from what year 300SD, despite many promises to do so] the pretend mechanics who had my car in Vero Beach pulled everything off the old engine and installed it on the new. Somehow they almost got it to work [though my nephew had to do a few hundred $$ work rerouting and reinstalling items]. Thus it stayed with a worsening shifting problem. I later replaced the tranny and the vacuum pump, and finally the injection pump. After my nephew called a friend at another shop [very familiar with that injection process] they straightened out the calibration and the timing process got started all over again. I think the full job entailed three removals and installations of the injection pump, and I think possibly one of the vacuum pump, and several attempts to time and calibrate it. What had not been clear in the directions was that with a pump that had a lock installed at a rebuild you set the timing to 15 degrees, instead of the 34 degree setting without the lock [or the other way around]. Big difference. It turns out that the previous incorrect pump had been timed and calibrated close enough to almost stop the smoking, but it also threw off the vacuum to the transmission. Long story short [sort of], half of Tues, Wed, Thurs and half of Friday later it is running beautifully, shifting better than it has since I have had it], and no smoke. I am happy. When I pulled out the checkbook for all the stuff done beyond the initial install I was told there was no charge, as it was under their [three month?] warranty. I tried to pay for some of the mechanic's time so he would not be out half a week's work, and was told that it was for situations like this that they kept the mechanic who worked on my car as a salaried employee [The other guy is hourly]. They wouldn't take any $ for the mechanic [who it turns out wasn't out anything] or for their extra work, and my car runs much better than it did before. I am confirmed in my belief that having a mechanic you can trust is a very nice thing. Now I await the first fill-up [hopefully at less than $100] to see if the mileage has improved also - though it got as high as 27 mpg before, so probably not. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The saga of the injection pump
Ha Ha - good idea Larry. I'd have wished for him when my car went out in Vero two years ago. But, the part owner and manager of the shop is my nephew, so I would have his wife, two kids, my brother and sister in law to answer to. The mechanic who did most of the work is good, but also relies on my nephew for many parts of the repair and other contacts. HOWEVER, if you want to ship me your cars for awhile I'd be happy to take them in for you and drive them back to you for costs... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The saga of the injection pump Hi Bill, Great story! Now, don't tell anyone else - this is just between you me - one dark night we need to follow that mechanic home and kidnap him - we'll chain him to the garage and force him to repair various classic MBs while we feed him Knachtworst and other worst meats. ;-) Sounds like you found one of the very, *very* good MB technicians (I don't use that term loosely). Keep close tabs on him -- Have a nice weekend - BTW, I think you're right - 27mpg is probably as good as it will get - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Allen Ringgold' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] The saga of the injection pump The saga of my injection pump has come to a happy conclusion. When I picked it up the first time it was smoking and still had a rattle [it was the rattle that had me take it in in the first place]. I took it back on Tuesday and they went into it once more, finally determining that the pump, while adjusted according to the directions they had, was not adjusted correctly. Mechanic took the pump back off and compared it to the pump that came out of the car, determining that the two were not set the same, nor were they the same pump. That covered Tuesday afternoon and part of Wed. Finally my nephew called the MB dealer and was assured that the new pump was the correct one for the engine, but that the one that came off was not. It seems that when Potomac German sent the engine [they never did tell me from what year 300SD, despite many promises to do so] the pretend mechanics who had my car in Vero Beach pulled everything off the old engine and installed it on the new. Somehow they almost got it to work [though my nephew had to do a few hundred $$ work rerouting and reinstalling items]. Thus it stayed with a worsening shifting problem. I later replaced the tranny and the vacuum pump, and finally the injection pump. After my nephew called a friend at another shop [very familiar with that injection process] they straightened out the calibration and the timing process got started all over again. I think the full job entailed three removals and installations of the injection pump, and I think possibly one of the vacuum pump, and several attempts to time and calibrate it. What had not been clear in the directions was that with a pump that had a lock installed at a rebuild you set the timing to 15 degrees, instead of the 34 degree setting without the lock [or the other way around]. Big difference. It turns out that the previous incorrect pump had been timed and calibrated close enough to almost stop the smoking, but it also threw off the vacuum to the transmission. Long story short [sort of], half of Tues, Wed, Thurs and half of Friday later it is running beautifully, shifting better than it has since I have had it], and no smoke. I am happy. When I pulled out the checkbook for all the stuff done beyond the initial install I was told there was no charge, as it was under their [three month?] warranty. I tried to pay for some of the mechanic's time so he would not be out half a week's work, and was told that it was for situations like this that they kept the mechanic who worked on my car as a salaried employee [The other guy is hourly]. They wouldn't take any $ for the mechanic [who it turns out wasn't out anything] or for their extra work, and my car runs much better than it did before. I am confirmed in my belief that having a mechanic you can trust is a very nice thing. Now I await the first fill-up [hopefully at less than $100] to see if the mileage has improved also - though it got as high as 27 mpg before, so probably not. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
Re: [MBZ] The saga of the injection pump
My appreciation for the shop goes up! BillR -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/25/08 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The saga of the injection pump I think the full job entailed three removals and installations of the injection pump, and I think possibly one of the vacuum pump, You can't take the IP off without first taking off the vacuum pump. though it got as high as 27 mpg before, so probably not. No, you're not going to beat that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Moose Day a day late...
All the time, even on the freeway? ;=) BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Moose Day a day late... My starter-wife drove a VW under a moose. On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard several stories about hitting a moose at Forestry Canada while I was doing my post-doc there. One fellow drove his MG midget UNDER one, only thing that happened was he got moose fur in the top clamps since the top was down. Very lucky, it'd have been squashed flat if the moose had fallen other. The other story involved our resident squeamish I couldn't kill a fly type having to use a fire ax to kill a moose after our resident lunatic Frenchman hit it -- Frenchie got sick to his somach and they didn't have a rifle with them, hence the fire ax. Brad was green for two weeks after than, but they couldn't leave it, both front legs were broken. The right corner of the truck cab as all bashed in, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CYA on an eBay Sale
How about Miami. @23% Anglo; average age @ 23 [figures from the late 1990's]. Not typical of Florida as a whole, BillR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CYA on an eBay Sale I won't say where the buyer lives, suffice that it's a major city south of me where english is not the primary language. LA? SD? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Still happy with my 300SD, but ...
I am still most pleased with my SD with the new [rebuilt] injection pump. The shifting is way better and the smoking has stopped and the things starts most easily. One oddity I have noticed is that at normal in town highway speeds [ mid 40's] I can here a faint ticking from somewhere under the hood. It does not seem to be there at idle, and not being able to run beside the car to check I thought I might ask the experts. My first guess would have to be something in the injection pump as nothing else on the car has been changed. Any thoughts? Other than that faint tick, I have heard the rattle of an injection pump with what I think is a messed up vacuum connection once or twice, and for some reason it started to idle at about 7500 RPM rather than its usual 6500. That only went on for a short time, but it was noticeable. Turning off the AC had no effect. Thanks for all who help us non-mechanical types. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
Count me in. I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a weekday. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:21 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier last month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to make some plans. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
I've got it in the calendar. My darling wife won't be with me as she will be at work. She is also deaf and does have a hard time with new folks until she learns how their lips move, which is why I prefer a weekday. Bill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville Count me in. I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a weekday. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:21 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier last month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to make some plans. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
Rusty - I take it all back. My darling wife said she would love to go have lunch with us [anything to keep me guessing], but then it will need to be Saturday. Can we make that switch? BillR- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville Okie dokie. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville I've got it in the calendar. My darling wife won't be with me as she will be at work. She is also deaf and does have a hard time with new folks until she learns how their lips move, which is why I prefer a weekday. Bill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville Count me in. I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a weekday. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:21 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier last month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to make some plans. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
Just let us know. I was assuming she would not be interested with folks she didn't know, but I had forgotten that she reads all the posts so does feel a bit like one of us. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ANGELO GIAIMO Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville Sorry guys, won't be in town, yet. Did book our tickets; Arriving JAX 5/31; Driving our newly aquired 2001 2WD Tahoe (!) back north 6/6. Bill, maybe we can hook up sometime that week at Singletons or one of the other places I talked about.. Probably have my wife with me, too. Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield replacement
Yes, for both front and rear glass replacement. It was ok, but I didn't discover until several months later that the rear defogger only worked over about half the window. It is unusual for us to have a need for such things and I didn't know of any reason to test it at the time. Not a huge problem and it was installed on a rebuilt rear deck [rust killed the area below the rear window and I had it all cut out and rebuilt]. Basically a good experience - until I discovered the defogger was not fully operational. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:07 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Windshield replacement I need a new windshield for my '85 190D, has anybody ever used one of those services that comes to your office? -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens
OMG, I hope it doesn't require that you read their instructions to assemble the thing! The Thermomix cooks by oneself...prepares dishes, also time-consuming, easier and faster than you are accustomed of the traditional cuisine. The several times patented all-in-one-concept...allows weighing, cutting, chaffing, kneading, stirring and heating...recipes succeed always and taste brilliant. By using the Varoma you cook vitamin-protecting, healthy and delicious - just your family's fancy. Bill R's Sue -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens What you really want is this http://www.vorwerk.com/thermomix/html/ My wife is all hot on it but the $1k+ price tag makes parts of me shrivel. (2008-05-02 14:47:49) *rolf:* hey (2008-05-02 14:47:54) *rolf:* whats the name of that thing you want (2008-05-02 14:47:58) *rolf:* for the kitchen (2008-05-02 14:47:59) *rolf:* all in one (2008-05-02 14:48:02) *rolf:* thermo king? (2008-05-02 14:48:16) *Christelle:* thermomix (2008-05-02 14:48:21) *Christelle:* aka bimbi (2008-05-02 14:48:33) *Christelle:* the god of all food processors There you have it. The GOD of all food processors even. -Rolf Curt Raymond wrote: Just add water, makes its own sauce. Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:30:28 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WOW! A floor polish AND a dessert topping! --R Rolf wrote: I want one of the new ones that is a toaster, a grill, a convection oven AND microwave. Cant beat that with a bat. -Rolf - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Quirky thermometer readings
I have been having erratic temp readings and have tried several things suggested to cure. Last week my aux fan would not turn off, so after a few hours I took the car to the shop. My nephew opened the fuse box and tapped on a relay and the fan shut off and the temps have registered where expected - at least most of the time. A laser digital thermometer showed that when the gauge said 120 no part of the engine or cooling system was above 180F, so the problem seems to be with resistance somewhere. Manfred is planning a visit to Jax and we'll check things out. I did have an unusual end of the week with it, though. After the three day event to get the injection pump straightened out, which resulted in a great improvement in the shifting and almost complete stopping of the smoke, a wonderful drive for a few days. On Thursday it started shifting hard, idling fast [but 750 - 800 RPM and not 7500RPM], and if the AC was on I had to get out and push to get it going. It did that until Saturday morning, when it reverted back to a perfect lady. Great shifts, able to keep up with traffic leaving stop lights even with the AC, and just a really nice ride. Elves, Dwarves, or whatever. I'll still take it in for a once over, but I really don't want anything different than this - except for it not to do that again. My Darling wife and I are planning a 5 day Memorial weekend and I don't need something like that. Does that sort of thing ring any bells? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.....
Your concern is appreciated, but premature. Rusty / Teri are due Wed. and lunch is next Sat. BillR -Original Message- From: ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/4/08 8:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons. Hey Rusty and Bill, How was lunch at Singletons? With the Shrimp Festival in Fernandina, I'm sure the ferry back was a bitch to catch. Heard it was backed up all the way to the Lighthouse..or did you take the bridge back? Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quirky thermometer readings
Thanks John. I now have some good ideas of where to start. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/4/08 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quirky thermometer readings Bill R wrote: Does that sort of thing ring any bells? For the intermittent power loss I would check the pressure line that goes from the back of the intake manifold to the ALDA on top of the IP. I haven't followed your great IP saga, so forgive me if you've already done that. Another thing you might want to check is the wastegate hose (depending on your turbo it may/may not have one. It should be pretty easy to see if it does. It is on the front of the turbo and goes down to the bottom underneath the compressor housing. Regardless... it sounds like you aren't getting boost all the time or the IP isn't seeing that you have boost (much more likely). HTH! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued - backup system
As a testament to what Don said, a few years ago I asked a friend who worked at Publix [major Florida based grocery chain] about the new building going up a the back of an area near where he worked. He said an internal study showed that a computer system failure would most likely cause the company and it's hundreds of stores to end up bankrupt. They were constructing a fully redundant system in a separate location. The more you need a computer system the more you need good protection and backup. BillR Formerly living in Lakeland FL, headquarters of Publix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, IE problems continued Never rely on only one computer --- if you're business depends on it, you need a spare. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something is locking it up when it tries to connect. Yes, have tried it with zone alarm turned off. Now, firefox is also locking up when trying to connect. Usually you have to restart it several times and it will finally work. Now, I have not got it to work yet. I have spent over 2 h ours just trying to upload some ebay listings and ship 2 packages. This is not good -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
Tom, you hit on 'the dark side' of much of the recycle and green movement. My first real kick in the seat on this came from an engineer friend who had to deal with land use issues. His comment was that prior to the recycle push when you put stuff into a landfill most of it stayed there. After so many items started to be made biodegradable suddenly runoff became a major problem as these items don't necessarily breakdown into pleasant stuff for drinking water. I don't suppose we who drive ancient MB's need to be talked at too much about the problem of a 'throw away society', but it does need to be preached loud and long. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:08 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green Yep, the truth is coming out. Bio Diesel is causing a serious third world food shortage. Wait till they figure out the real impact that Ethanol production has on the world. We are already experiencing record food inflation, partly due to higher oil prices but more directly related to the fact that so much corn is going to Ethanol! Then there's the long term impact of compact florescent bulbs. Every one contains a bit of mercury. I don't know about you but I throw mine out when they burn out and I bet that 99% of the county does the same. So, do mercury tainted landfills appeal to you? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:56 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004391337_danny04.html Danny Westneat Seattle Times staff columnist I thought I was going green. Instead, I was committing a crime against humanity. Recently our family car was totaled in a wreck (no one was hurt). So I figured: Here's a chance to green up. To leave gas guzzling behind. To go off the oil grid.I'm talking biodiesel. Instead of running your car on noxious petroleum, you cruise about town powered by veggie oil ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1413 - Release Date: 5/3/2008 11:22 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons.....
What about New York? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons. i'll try to make it if my schedule permits On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your concern is appreciated, but premature. Rusty / Teri are due Wed. and lunch is next Sat. BillR -Original Message- From: ANGELO GIAIMO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/4/08 8:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Lunch at Singletons. Hey Rusty and Bill, How was lunch at Singletons? With the Shrimp Festival in Fernandina, I'm sure the ferry back was a bitch to catch. Heard it was backed up all the way to the Lighthouse..or did you take the bridge back? Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
An '85 would have enough personality that it could just be angry with you. From occasional random features I think my '81 is ticked off at me once in awhile. Sorry, no helpful advice other than some very marginal leak that closes with 20 min of vibration. Actually, I like my first answer better. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave H... Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:51 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 85 300SD I had my SD parked for quite some time. Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been driven for approximately 20 minutes or more. If shut down (time does not matter) when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to set/hold cruise speed. I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions? Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] secret message for Ringgold
The Wonk has a stash [now smaller] of Sake; Like the rising crane the detritus of life become expanding circles. fortunately the day job is secure. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] secret message for Ringgold Huh? Been inhaling the stuff Billybob never did? At 10:30 PM 5/5/2008, you wrote: The dove has landed. It is a beautiful swan. The owl sings in the tree. The rain forest is pretty ... and gets burned to grow soybeans. And Kaleb keeps on being Kaleb. Sigh. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Wonko Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] computer OS other than MS
Max, I certainly do not know, but I suspect whatever branch of the military you are with has folks who can answer that question easily enough. My son [USAF, Inspector General's Office] does some of that for inspectors. BTW, he [and the rest of you Linux folk] has finally gotten me ready to try it. We shall see. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:29 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] computer OS other than MS Linux gurus and others, Here is the show-stopper that I see for MY situation. Review: plan is to purchase cheap laptop for use while I travel. Mostly personal stuff (set up Skype or some other webcam/audio method of communicating with home front while I'm gone, peruse MB stuff, read up on survival skills, etc.) but, and here's the big but, I'd also like to be able to access some military sites so that I can do official work if needed. So, we are now delving into the security realm. Worse yet, DOD security realm. I am just savy enough to know where the boundaries are that when crossed, the Internet Police come to my cube and ask what I'm doing and who am I and please show some ID and follow us (that has only happened once so far. Embarrasing!). So, can I make Linux work with Active Card Gold or Active Client? Please contact me offline if anyone has been down this path. Secure communication paths are available to me. I've tried to make Mozilla Firefox work for these military sites on my XP machine, can't do it and haven't found anyone that knows (but I haven't really tried very hard). OK, maybe this isn't a show-stopper, but would be nice to figure it out and be able to do more things with future laptop... Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: computer OS other than MS
Don't stop with the MBZ stuff - best resource you might find for everything from tomatoes to cardiac recovery to just about anything related to MB's. Makes a great mix. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:10 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: computer OS other than MS Thanks Bill, I know I know, I need to stop with the MBZ stuff, get off my butt and interact with some humans. A couple names just occured to me, one Army and others Air Force, so I'll bounce this problem off their fertile minds... Max (Navy-type) -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:31:55 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] computer OS other than MS To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Max, I certainly do not know, but I suspect whatever branch of the military you are with has folks who can answer that question easily enough. My son [USAF, Inspector General's Office] does some of that for inspectors. BTW, he [and the rest of you Linux folk] has finally gotten me ready to try it. We shall see. BillR -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3966 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080506/796 dff4f/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] grass
While we are in the yard, I am contemplating getting a hedge trimmer for my daughter to use. Do the electric ones do an adequate job? I hated the cord and had a gas one, till it was liberated some years ago. Not sure she could wield a gas model, and we have a lot of hedges [IMHO, since I can't trim them]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:23 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] grass I bought a 110v trimmer largely because unless you use a gas trimmer a lot (or maintain it very well) it'll be hard to start. The electric trimmer is a breeze to use, didn't cost much ($30 maybe) and does the job. It won't cut brush like a good gas trimmer will but is entirely adequate to trim around the house. -Curt Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:38:06 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] grass To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't trim because I could never get my gas trimmer to start. But I do love the look of a freshly mowed lawn. I bag the clippings to mulch the veg, garden and never feed the lawn either. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lt Don wrote: I think of it as exercise, not mowing. I may be weird, but I really enjoy mowing. I also have a pretty small yard. I can mow and trim in all in about an hour. I enjoy having the nicest yard on the block. One thing I do not like is pulling weeds in all of the landscaping. Donald H. Snook - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
I could well be a Linuxian by next week. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query Since we're all talking computers, I was curious to find out how many of us are actually using Linux? I know there's me, Hursty and Lt. Don..who else? It seems like Linux has a much higher penetration rate here than in the general domain. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hedge Clippers, was grass
Excellent suggestion. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Weeks Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:27 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Hedge Clippers, was grass Bill: I have a Black Decker 18v cordless trimmer, and a BD cordless hedge clipper that uses the same batteries. Both work great. If you get both tools, you get two chargers and 4 batteries, which allows you to pre-charge enough to keep you going for a good long while-- I've never needed to use more than 2 batteries in a session, but you may use all 4. Both tools are lighter than gas counterparts, and no cord. Ideal, in my view. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?)
Loren - I am sort of gently looking for a laptop for my Granddaughter [9 years old and starting to want to use mine a lot]. What kind of $ are we talking for that? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) Ii need to clean house, so if anyone needs older macs, I have some for sale. Beige G3 266 It was top of the line in its day (tower) 256 Mb Ram 6.43 Gb drive Zip Drive Blue/White G3 350 (tower) 128 Mb Ram 20 Gig drive Zip Drive OS 9 installed Wall Street Powerbook G3 300 128 Mb ram 8 Gb drive OS 10 10.1 I think Battery won't hold charge, works fine on power cord. Also have a 7100 and a 7200 and a performa 6230 if anyone is interested. I understand there are versions of linux that run on these also Make an offer offlist. I am going to be on the road mostly until the 19th, so I will take the best bids in by then. email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?)
Thanks Don - All she really needs is some word processing [for 2 - 3 grade] and the ability to play some games. Any chance it would hook into ne of the two or three extra monitors we have lying around of the display is bad? How much is shipping? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) Bill: I picked up a Powerbook 1400CS yesterday. Boots up just fine but needs a new display (dinged). Yours if you want it. $0. Definitely not a speed demon but should be usable. Don On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren - I am sort of gently looking for a laptop for my Granddaughter [9 years old and starting to want to use mine a lot]. What kind of $ are we talking for that? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) Ii need to clean house, so if anyone needs older macs, I have some for sale. Beige G3 266 It was top of the line in its day (tower) 256 Mb Ram 6.43 Gb drive Zip Drive Blue/White G3 350 (tower) 128 Mb Ram 20 Gig drive Zip Drive OS 9 installed Wall Street Powerbook G3 300 128 Mb ram 8 Gb drive OS 10 10.1 I think Battery won't hold charge, works fine on power cord. Also have a 7100 and a 7200 and a performa 6230 if anyone is interested. I understand there are versions of linux that run on these also Make an offer offlist. I am going to be on the road mostly until the 19th, so I will take the best bids in by then. email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?)
Thanks. My darling wife is using the computer at the moment, but I looked a bit on the handheld. There is a battery for it for @ $17 including shipping. I might well get that if it is the correct one -3 wire / pin? Thanks - it wi l Be nice for her. BillR -Original Message- From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/6/08 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) ... I will do some checking on eBay for you. (Anyone have an idea why my laptop suddenly sends messages before their time? I might be hitting something with my fat palms but not sure what.) On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check eBay for a spare display for that model. Might be expensive or might be reasonable. I think we have a guy on here (or maybe Banned) that has a stockpile of Mac parts. Not sure how much money you are willing to spend, but a really nice laptop (like my Dell D400) is only about $300. Yea, that isn't pocket change but it is reliable. Just turned over the garden and must go tighten the alternator belt on the 240D. If I finish up in time, On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Don - All she really needs is some word processing [for 2 - 3 grade] and the ability to play some games. Any chance it would hook into ne of the two or three extra monitors we have lying around of the display is bad? How much is shipping? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List ubject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) Bill: I picked up a Powerbook 1400CS yesterday. Boots up just fine but needs a new display (dinged). Yours if you want it. $0. Definitely not a speed demon but should be usable. Don On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren - I am sort of gently looking for a laptop for my Granddaughter [9 years old and starting to want to use mine a lot]. What kind of $ are we talking for that? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Macs for sale (linux?) Ii need to clean house, so if anyone needs older macs, I have some for sale. Beige G3 266 It was top of the line in its day (tower) 256 Mb Ram 6.43 Gb drive Zip Drive Blue/White G3 350 (tower) 128 Mb Ram 20 Gig drive Zip Drive OS 9 installed Wall Street Powerbook G3 300 128 Mb ram 8 Gb drive OS 10 10.1 I think Battery won't hold charge, works fine on power cord. Also have a 7100 and a 7200 and a performa 6230 if anyone is interested. I understand there are versions of linux that run on these also Make an offer offlist. I am going to be on the road mostly until the 19th, so I will take the best bids in by then. email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
I could be wrong, but wasn't that started at a time when the list was something like 90% mechanical or Benz related? I guess it still serves the function of not having to explain the terminology to the rest of us when you talk computer, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query PS - we have a Linux list, so as not to bother those who don't care about penguins On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Word on the street is that the newer ubuntu is not as good as the previous version, personally I have upgraded to the latest distro but wish I hadn't. The active desktop is a feature of the newer distro but if you want stability go for the earlier one. The only good thing is the ability yo zoom in with the scroll function. The next distro which is just about ready for distribution should hopefully fix a lot of issues. Hendrik linux user for a few months Jeff Zedic wrote: How much of a change was Ubuntu 8.0.4? My neighbour, that I'm getting into Linux, was given a disc from me with 7.1 on it and d/l'd the newer version at work with his high speed connection. Just curious. Also, how many members do we have on this list? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OK, this one cracked us up
Driving by the ABC store tonight we read their sign: Make ABC your Mother's Day Headquarters. Fortunately I wouldn't have thought of that on my own. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My $500 Kaleb Car let me down
Some days just shouldn't happen. Sounds like the battery / connection / cables are bad BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] My $500 Kaleb Car let me down I went out to start my $500 Buick Lesabre this morning and it wouldn't start. It would click once, but not start. I think it's the starter. It could also be the battery cable. These cars have a problem with a spacer in the cable that corrodes. I was dressed in my suit because I had to meet a client for her deposition this morning. So, I had to get my wife out to help me try to start it while whacking the starter with a hammer while laying on the drive in my suit and tie. And of course, it didn't work. So, we had to push it out of the way, in order to get my wife's car out of the garage, so I could drive it. Crazy morning. I am rushing to my office and my client is trying to reach me, I am driving too fast and trying to answer my cell phone, I ran a red light by mistake (luckily no one around) and when I finally get to work, my client is calling because they cannot come to the deposition because the Joint Commission on Accredidation of Hospitals is there for their SURPRISE inspection. It is once every three years and it was today without any notice. What a morning. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK, this one cracked us up
Fortunately my MIL is great [especially since she lives in an apartment attached to our house], so don't think I will need to. Then there was this: Reserve our Banquet Hall sign in front of the IHOP. Pure class. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK, this one cracked us up Sounds like a good plan, did you? --R Bill R wrote: Driving by the ABC store tonight we read their sign: Make ABC your Mother's Day Headquarters. Fortunately I wouldn't have thought of that on my own. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's
All of you who wished you could have made it to lunch at Singleton's today certainly would have enjoyed it - and Rusty even bought the meal, a nice bonus in addition to fine company of Teri and Rusty [I could have gotten the lobster, if I weren't allergic to it.] When Manfred discovered he had to be home to watch his granddaughter that just left My Darling wife and me to reap the benefits of his largess. We can attest to the accuracy of your combined memories of at least the sea scallops, clams, crab sandwich and fish dip, and the friendly wait staff, and the rest of their food looked to be pretty good also. I even discovered yet one more beer that I don't especially like [that is a clean sweep since 1970, I've never had one that I actually liked]. Sorry the rest of you missed it, but we enjoyed it about enough for everyone. Thanks Rusty and Teri. BillR and his Darling Wife Sue ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel
Don't complain [too much]. Varies from $4.29 - $4.35 here. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:16 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] diesel Well, diesel is now 4.17 here. Geez, I need to get my 190D going quick. Why the hell did I get rid of my 92 300D with its 33mpg? Its too expensive driving a SDL back and forth to work. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No user serviceable parts inside
I sure you can. You could also use an hydraulic spreader on whatever parts you can get a grip on, or even a smoke wrench. The problem will be getting it to work [correctly] later vs. having a multi-thousand $$ lawn/garage/driveway ornament... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No user serviceable parts inside Replacement of rear rotors requires a special Rolls Royce hub tool ($1,000 if you can find one for sale, or rentable from the RROC) and takes two days of labor. Does that mean I can't just get a big mallet and beat on them until they come loose? --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: Here's something to take a look at whenever you feel like M-B repair is too tricky and you're spending too much money on one-use-only tools (4.5mm Allen for the 124 center dash vent?). Notice the number of times the writer refers to a $1,000 Rolls Royce special tool. http://www.robisonservice.com/servicedep/rolls_info.asp Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's
Not yet, but I'll put it on the list. Even though I don't ever see myself as a 'beer drinker' I would like to have at least one or two that I like ok for social situations that seem to call for one. Thanks for the tip. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's Bill, I admire your persistence and perseverance. Have you tried Stella Artois yet? On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of you who wished you could have made it to lunch at Singleton's today certainly would have enjoyed it - and Rusty even bought the meal, a nice bonus in addition to fine company of Teri and Rusty [I could have gotten the lobster, if I weren't allergic to it.] When Manfred discovered he had to be home to watch his granddaughter that just left My Darling wife and me to reap the benefits of his largess. We can attest to the accuracy of your combined memories of at least the sea scallops, clams, crab sandwich and fish dip, and the friendly wait staff, and the rest of their food looked to be pretty good also. I even discovered yet one more beer that I don't especially like [that is a clean sweep since 1970, I've never had one that I actually liked]. Sorry the rest of you missed it, but we enjoyed it about enough for everyone. Thanks Rusty and Teri. BillR and his Darling Wife Sue ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's
Like I need another taste to satisfy when I have a hard enough time keeping up with the vices I already have. Thanks for the suggestion. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:50 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's Stella rocks. Those were my beer of choice last Laughlin trip. Nice. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lunch at Singleton's Bill, I admire your persistence and perseverance. Have you tried Stella Artois yet? On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of you who wished you could have made it to lunch at Singleton's today certainly would have enjoyed it - and Rusty even bought the meal, a nice bonus in addition to fine company of Teri and Rusty [I could have gotten the lobster, if I weren't allergic to it.] When Manfred discovered he had to be home to watch his granddaughter that just left My Darling wife and me to reap the benefits of his largess. We can attest to the accuracy of your combined memories of at least the sea scallops, clams, crab sandwich and fish dip, and the friendly wait staff, and the rest of their food looked to be pretty good also. I even discovered yet one more beer that I don't especially like [that is a clean sweep since 1970, I've never had one that I actually liked]. Sorry the rest of you missed it, but we enjoyed it about enough for everyone. Thanks Rusty and Teri. BillR and his Darling Wife Sue ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois
My list is growing. Howe is it compared to my beverage of choice, Crystal Light Peach Tea? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois Duvel is overpriced and lacks in taste compared to some others. I had a 6 pack of Crystal Weiss this weekend. Some of the best american made weissbier I have ever had. -Rolf Glenn Brown wrote: Forget Stella Artois, and go for Duvel . . . at the top of my list for a flavorful white ale. G.M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Beer
Tom ought to know of what he speaks about beer. Pete, at my age sex in a canoe is more of a distant memory than risk, but back in the day I am sure I would have been willing to try it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:15 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer Unlike others, Sam Light is a 100% malt beer. For those fortunate enough to be in their distribution area, Sprecher Micro Light is also a 100% malt beer and is a great product. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:31 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer Sam Light is the only light worth drinking... I'm into dark beer. A really good beer should slap you around a bit on the way down. I had a coffee porter that was outstanding not long ago, should get some more of that. -Curt Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:42:43 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et Light beer is like, sex in a canoe. Not worth the risk. That being said, I do like Sam Adams light. Pete - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duvel is overpriced
Glenn - I printed your list to give a few a try. Now I just need to remember to take the list with me. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:22 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Duvel is overpriced Some think Anchor Steam is something special. Personally, I don't. Here are a few others which are also exceptional: St. Feuillien Abbey Ale (Belgian Special Blond Ale) Leffe Blonde Abbey Ale Clovis Special Belgian Ale Barber Belgian Honey Ale Blanche De Bruxelles (Belgian White Ale) Pax Belgian White Ale (Limburgs Wit) If Michael Jackson (The one who actually made a positive societal mark in his life) were still with us, I believe he would agree to these being top notch as well. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Beer
Depends on if you are using the mustang to get laid. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:31 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer It's got to be easier than sex in a 66 Mustang... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer Tom ought to know of what he speaks about beer. Pete, at my age sex in a canoe is more of a distant memory than risk, but back in the day I am sure I would have been willing to try it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:15 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer Unlike others, Sam Light is a 100% malt beer. For those fortunate enough to be in their distribution area, Sprecher Micro Light is also a 100% malt beer and is a great product. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:31 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer Sam Light is the only light worth drinking... I'm into dark beer. A really good beer should slap you around a bit on the way down. I had a coffee porter that was outstanding not long ago, should get some more of that. -Curt Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:42:43 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et Light beer is like, sex in a canoe. Not worth the risk. That being said, I do like Sam Adams light. Pete - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: 5/11/2008 1:08 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois
Rusty - I put in a plug with Chris and John Herndon of Herndon Automobile Company in Jacksonville. My nephew recommended him as a well known MB specialist who is always available to help others - even get's calls / emails from around the world. Don't know for sure if you will hear from him as he has been in business for about 30 years here and no doubt has folks he is used to using, but I did let them know how much we respect you and they seemed open. I'll mention you once more when I pick up the car. FYI - Herndon's 904-737-0001, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 5105-503 Phiiips Highway, Jax, 26467. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois No comparison, I have 2 boxes of that at home. It is good stuff. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois My list is growing. Howe is it compared to my beverage of choice, Crystal Light Peach Tea? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stella Artois Duvel is overpriced and lacks in taste compared to some others. I had a 6 pack of Crystal Weiss this weekend. Some of the best american made weissbier I have ever had. -Rolf Glenn Brown wrote: Forget Stella Artois, and go for Duvel . . . at the top of my list for a flavorful white ale. G.M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK?
They liked To Kill A Monkingbird, a lot? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? Friends named their son Atticus. Not sure why. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? When's the last time you saw anyone named Atticus in a soap opera? Come on! Don't want your little darling to be different do you? :^) Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/13/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except of course, the Children would Jackson, Elizabeth, Reagan, and Atticus. (the last one is my choice and unlikely to actually make the cut). __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK?
Well, if one seeks a role model through a name, you could do worse. From experience with my grandkids though, as soon as someone picks up an unusual name you will suddenly hear dozens of kids with the same name. IE - Our 1 YO granddaughter Isabella - it seems to be a common girl's name these days. I never knew anyone [outside of Spanish history] who had that name but I have run across several in the last year. Who knew. I think the jury might still be out on Atticus, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? Yeah, BUT??? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:51 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? They liked To Kill A Monkingbird, a lot? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? Friends named their son Atticus. Not sure why. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's a GLK? When's the last time you saw anyone named Atticus in a soap opera? Come on! Don't want your little darling to be different do you? :^) Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/13/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except of course, the Children would Jackson, Elizabeth, Reagan, and Atticus. (the last one is my choice and unlikely to actually make the cut). __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thought I was in a different car...
Manfred - That rearrangement of the throttle rods you did yesterday was nothing short of amazing. I started out onto the road this morning and had to stop and walk around the car to see if it was mine. At least twice the pep it has had - probably since I got the car. A real pleasure to drive once more after months of problems with the injection pump and tranny. Still has some odd shift patterns [that 1-2-4-3-4 thing], but hopefully Herndon's can adjust that properly. Thanks loads - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atticus
Well, it would take so looking to come up with a nickname for Atticus - for the teachers anyway I get your point. My best friend a few years ago had the last name of Fly. That took a bit to get used to, but soon not even noticed. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:50 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Atticus With the very greatest respect, could a child named Atticus Snook make it through school alive? RLE ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Beer and Bugs and fun difficult activities to try in the m when we were young...
I did have a bug in the late 1970's. It was orange and was on the street when a rather destructive [golf ball sized hail] hailstorm came through Western Indiana. That VW looked like a golf ball when it was done. I did enjoy driving it, but having been married a few years at that point it was much more appealing to just go home than to get frisky in that. The hailstorm hit at around 10:00PM the day the crop insurance stopped at midnight. The corn fields were yellow with corn, but the farmers were a lot happier than they would have been had it hit a couple of hours later. It also put 853 holes in the beautiful stained glass windows of our church and broke lots of windows in the town in our area. It took two weeks to get an appointment to get an estimate on car repairs. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Beer New? Bug? Mine was a 1951 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:42 PM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all that room? Try a 68 VW bug sometime. Course that was back when the bug was new. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?
Actually after a day looking at it on the list it is growing on me. If I have another boy I'll consider it BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:34 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK? Bill R. wrote: From experience with my grandkids though, as soon as someone picks up an unusual name you will suddenly hear dozens of kids with the same name. I think the jury might still be out on Atticus, though. Perhaps little Atticus Snook (or Gregory Atticus Snook) will be the first to start the trend. I knew a girl in Law School who named her children Scout and Jem. That's a little weird. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thought I was in a different car...
Two of the rods that work to move all the throttle stuff [like my technical terms?] had been swapped at some point in the past. Manfred fiddled with trying to get the snag out of the linkage movement while having the stop lever be in the correct position, and finally discovered that to get that to happen the rods needed to be swapped. On my car it was the one going down near the stop lever and the one going directly across the top, I think attached to the same piece. Amazing difference. What can I say, it's a gift. I'm sure if you dropped by his place [worth it to watch progress on his dome home] he would take a look for you. Let's see: 2,970.5 miles each way [according to MS Streets and Trips], so rounding up just a bit for going around pot holes and such make it 6k miles and about 2 weeks driving time each way, If you don't eat or sleep you can make the trip in even less time for about $1,ooo. Good luck. Probably should call him first to make sure he would be home. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thought I was in a different car... That rearrangement of the throttle rods you did yesterday was nothing short of amazing. I wish he was closer to ME so that he could fiddle around with my '83 300SD! What was out of whack on yours? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?
Yeah, a little weird, but then she was planning to be alawyer..;=) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:34 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK? Bill R. wrote: From experience with my grandkids though, as soon as someone picks up an unusual name you will suddenly hear dozens of kids with the same name. I think the jury might still be out on Atticus, though. Perhaps little Atticus Snook (or Gregory Atticus Snook) will be the first to start the trend. I knew a girl in Law School who named her children Scout and Jem. That's a little weird. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys!
...and not broken off in the ignition. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Keys! This morning I got into my car in the garage and went to put the key in the ignition switch. No key! Just the plastic piece left. Got to love those silly soft plastic key tops. Started to make a wooden blank replacement a while back but never finished. I guess now I will be making 2 - assuming I find the other key. Think it must be close by as I have not driven the car since Sunday evening - rained here the past 2 days so I drove the Supercrew and left the MB in the garage. Hope the metal part of the key is in one of my pockets somewhere in the house - or maybe on the floor in the car somewhere. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys!
Glad you found it and didn't have to dig it out of a lock. You could get really industrious and make a bunch to give to all of us for Christmas... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! No, that couldn't be as the whole metal part was gone - just had plastic left over. Looked in the house at lunch to no avail. However, found it in the trunk lock so now back to square one. Time to make some wooden key heads to replace the plastic. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:05 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! ...and not broken off in the ignition. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Keys! This morning I got into my car in the garage and went to put the key in the ignition switch. No key! Just the plastic piece left. Got to love those silly soft plastic key tops. Started to make a wooden blank replacement a while back but never finished. I guess now I will be making 2 - assuming I find the other key. Think it must be close by as I have not driven the car since Sunday evening - rained here the past 2 days so I drove the Supercrew and left the MB in the garage. Hope the metal part of the key is in one of my pockets somewhere in the house - or maybe on the floor in the car somewhere. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys!
Still perfect for someone like me. I leave a single key in the ignition almost all the time. Not always a good idea, I know, as one of these days I might go out to a blank parking spot. I even forget to lock it many nights and have never had it even gone through. Yet. BillR Jacksonville FL [and in a pretty safe neighborhood] 1981 300SD 301k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! Randy, my wooden (walnut) key top works great, feels good, looks good, but I really don't use it much - just lying in the drawer as a spare now. I noticed the walnut top gets dinged fast in my pocket with other keys and stuff, but I enjoyed making it and knowing that I can. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! No, that couldn't be as the whole metal part was gone - just had plastic left over. Looked in the house at lunch to no avail. However, found it in the trunk lock so now back to square one. Time to make some wooden key heads to replace the plastic. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:05 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys! ...and not broken off in the ignition. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Keys! This morning I got into my car in the garage and went to put the key in the ignition switch. No key! Just the plastic piece left. Got to love those silly soft plastic key tops. Started to make a wooden blank replacement a while back but never finished. I guess now I will be making 2 - assuming I find the other key. Think it must be close by as I have not driven the car since Sunday evening - rained here the past 2 days so I drove the Supercrew and left the MB in the garage. Hope the metal part of the key is in one of my pockets somewhere in the house - or maybe on the floor in the car somewhere. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK?
It does seem a bit odd to do all of that and then stop. When I was in grad school that happened once in awhile, but very rare. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What's in a name was Re: What's a GLK? Bill R. wrote: Yeah, a little weird, but then she was planning to be a lawyer It didn't work out for her. She didn't pass the bar and then gave up trying. It is surprising how many people go through the pain of law school only to not take the bar or not practice at all. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hail damage
Not sure, I took the insurance money and sold the car to someone who thought it cute that way. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] hail damage It took two weeks to get an appointment to get an estimate on car repairs. Musta used up a 5-gallon bucket of Bondo. Dent Wizard does those jobs now. RLE ** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear
Make that the MB specialist ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 4:31 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Banned List' Subject: [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
I have no idea. My talents never ran toward the mechanical end of things. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. What frame? These are unibody cars, with subframe suspension, aren't they? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car.
Don - that is a pretty car. Why not go for that and impress the clients? It would sure impress me/. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:33 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] WOW! I really like this car. http://tinyurl.com/5ajv43 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear
Guess I'll learn a lot more tomorrow. Thanks for what I take to be encouragement about the frame crack. We do have some good welders around these parts. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:44 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear How does the frame crack on a unibody car? Would it be easier to fix on a unibody car? We had a frame crack repaired on the GMC farm truck not all that long ago. They boxed that section of the frame, maybe 1 foot around the crack. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NOT what I wanted to hear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com, 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update
Update. I went over to see they guy this morning and he put it up on the rack for me. He had driven the car and looked things over, noticing a number of fuel and vacuum irregularities, but heard the creaking and addressed none of them. He will not do work on a car with a cracked frame rail. His guess is a wreck at some point in the car's past, which I am sure is correct as the RF quarter panel is a slightly different color. The cracks are where the spring and the dampening piston/stabilizer [?] connect to the frame. In his opinion the car is not safe to drive and that needs to be fixed before he would address other issues. There is an automotive welding shop here in Jax that I will take it to when I can. No idea of how expensive that will be, but I have an unbelievable amount invested in the replacement engine, rebuilt transmission, new AC, new vacuum pump, new air flow actuators and a few other things, and the interior and exterior are both nice. I suspect it would have to be on the high side of $1000 for me to flinch too much. Lots cheaper than any other car I would like as much. I'll update you guys [and the occasional gal] as I learn more. BillR Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he can show me where the frame is cracked. That I was not expecting nor am I pleased to hear that one. Any thoughts as to what if anything can be done? He wanted me to see it before we talked about it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and what I had planned on to be my car for the rest of my driving life ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update
Not to worry on that score. And I'll look pained no matter what they say. The MB guy thinks that the only safe repair is to replace the rail in total as it supports the front end of the car, but stopped short of saying that is the only answer here. That needs to be decided by a welder. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update I suspect it would have to be on the high side of $1000 for me to flinch too much. If it's just cracked metal that isn't all rusty, the welding should be fairly straightforward if it can be reached easily. Try not to mention your top price to the guy when getting a quote! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update
Good to know. Thanks Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:34 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update Newer Mercedes bodies frames are made of high strength steel alloy. An incompetent welder can actually do more harm than good by tempering weakening the frame around the weld. This is why the Mercedes guy believes the only safe repair is to replace the frame rail. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:24 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update Not to worry on that score. And I'll look pained no matter what they say. The MB guy thinks that the only safe repair is to replace the rail in total as it supports the front end of the car, but stopped short of saying that is the only answer here. That needs to be decided by a welder. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] NOT what I wanted to hear - Update I suspect it would have to be on the high side of $1000 for me to flinch too much. If it's just cracked metal that isn't all rusty, the welding should be fairly straightforward if it can be reached easily. Try not to mention your top price to the guy when getting a quote! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 5/15/2008 7:24 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail
When I went to get the car, necessitating signing a statement to the effect that I was informed that the car was not safe to drive, the wife of the owner [who does the front desk work] seemed surprised that I was going to investigate having it fixed and not scrap it. I took it to the welders, and felt for a moment like I had tossed a live chicken into a pool of gators. They drove it up on a rack over an open bay and 4 welders descended [literally, they had to walk down stairs] on the RF tire area with someone checking it from every angle. I had talked with the owner about the issue of high strength and some poor welding in the past, and the critical nature of this for it to be my 'forever' car. A few minutes later the had determined that they could indeed repair the cracks. It would take about an hour from getting the undercoating off and getting it cleaned up. Estimated cost about $55 - $60. A far cry from the top I would have been willing to pay. Hopefully a good outcome, but I'll be watching that spot for a few years. I rest easier tonight, and tomorrow I will try to figure out transportation to get it back to the MB shop to have the numerous fuel and vacuum issues addressed. Manfred made a huge difference with the sharp eye on the throttle linkages. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail
You can believe I like this one [or sure hope to]! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail It would take about an hour...Estimated cost about $55 - $60. Welding is cool (hot?) s**t. Fast, cheap, and strong. Hard not to like it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb - almost in your price range
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[MBZ] 72 to 89 black cloth mercedes convertible top - $225
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Re: [MBZ] 72 to 89 black cloth mercedes convertible top - $225
No idea - and it would look really silly on my 300SD. Anyone who wants one should ask about that, though. Thanks. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 72 to 89 black cloth mercedes convertible top - $225 But..is it German canvas or that cheap Stayfast? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 72 to 89 black cloth mercedes convertible top - $225 http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/pts/680107994.html no affiliation, etc. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail
These guys come with good recommendations so here's hoping for the best BillR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/15/08 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail It would take about an hour...Estimated cost about $55 - $60. Welding is cool (hot?) s**t. Fast, cheap, and strong. Hard not to like it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail
Thanks for the thoughts Larry. I am planning to chat with them about that when I pick it up later today. I'm planning to drive it a bit prior to taking it back to the repair shop. I want to be more certain of the weld holding. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail Hi Bill, I know the weld should be as strong as the base metal but I wonder if the addition of a piece of flat steel could be bolted over the cracked area? That would take any stress off the weld - but may be totally un-necessary. ;-) Just becomes an issue of what you;re comfortable with. Have a nice weekend - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] update on the cracked frame rail When I went to get the car, necessitating signing a statement to the effect that I was informed that the car was not safe to drive, the wife of the owner [who does the front desk work] seemed surprised that I was going to investigate having it fixed and not scrap it. I took it to the welders, and felt for a moment like I had tossed a live chicken into a pool of gators. They drove it up on a rack over an open bay and 4 welders descended [literally, they had to walk down stairs] on the RF tire area with someone checking it from every angle. I had talked with the owner about the issue of high strength and some poor welding in the past, and the critical nature of this for it to be my 'forever' car. A few minutes later the had determined that they could indeed repair the cracks. It would take about an hour from getting the undercoating off and getting it cleaned up. Estimated cost about $55 - $60. A far cry from the top I would have been willing to pay. Hopefully a good outcome, but I'll be watching that spot for a few years. I rest easier tonight, and tomorrow I will try to figure out transportation to get it back to the MB shop to have the numerous fuel and vacuum issues addressed. Manfred made a huge difference with the sharp eye on the throttle linkages. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Picked up my car - cracked frame rail repaired
Talked to the guys at the welding shop, and we are pretty sure the problem was caused by an accident at some time in the past. They said under normal driving I should not have any problems with it. It drives well, and next week we stat with all the other stuff that needs adjusting. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles, and a refurbished frame rail ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Tried out my new [to me] grill tonight, and tried the rotisserie for the first time in my life. Pretty basic stuff, I stuck two chickens on the spit, put some BBQ rub on them and cranked it up. I was also dealing with some grandkids at the time, and when I thought it was stable at 450 degrees I wandered off for a time. When I got back a few minutes later it as at 550 and the chicken skin was black. Tasted good [burn was only of the skin], but not visually appealing, to say the least. It's a 4 burner Jenn-Air, 64,000 BTU. Anyone have a good method for using a rotisserie? It did not come with a manual. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
I wondered about that but caught someone's post that the high heat [though not to 550] for 45 min was the method used in commercial units. Chicken was tender, though at 45 minutes the inside 1/4 was a touch pink. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 6:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question You're better off with a lower heat and a longer cooking. Rotisserie is the best for chicken! And give the skin a few pokes with a fork to make some dribble holes for the juices! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
