Hi John,
I thought we were trying to delineate the ways of establishing Sq/DQ
metaphysics, or is it Dq/SQ. HM! I guess I refer indefinable to
understandable, and definable to understandable. Understandable is carrying
two metaphysical loads. I wonder if I have an indefinable brain that
Joe,
I had a nice walk this sunny afternoon along the NID ditch, which I was
happy to see flowing again; I offer the following as a fun logical
conundrum for you to consider:
DQ=SQ
proof:
DQ is a pointer to, or conceptualization of, an indefinable and nothing
else.
pointers and
Marsha to Andre:
I have applied it to static (conventional) quality. Do you think
concepts, or patterns, are independent?
Andre:
This doesn't really address your statement nor does it address my
questions about that statement. But, predictably you give me half of a
one-liner immediately
On Sep 30, 2013, at 4:25 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:
Marsha to Andre:
I have applied it to static (conventional) quality. Do you think concepts, or
patterns, are independent?
Marsha:
No, this was part of a discussion between dmb and myself. It was not a
discourse between the two of us.
Marsha to Ham:
Hmmm, regardless of half empty/half full, static value is empty of
inherent existence and cannot be found. How is that for a bottom line?
Andre:
Mmmm, I really wonder how you figured that out Marsha? And what this
means as far as the MoQ goes.
Care to take that one on?
Andre,
On Sep 28, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:
Marsha to Ham:
Hmmm, regardless of half empty/half full, static value is empty of inherent
existence and cannot be found. How is that for a bottom line?
Andre:
Mmmm, I really wonder how you figured that out Marsha? And what this
static value is empty of inherent existence and cannot be found. How is that
for a bottom line?
Actually, it stinks as a bottom line. It's not thought out at all.
Inhere: to stick, to exist permanently and inseparably in, as a quality,
attribute, or element; belong intrinsically, infixed,
The Metaphysics of Quality itself is static and should be separated from the
Dynamic Quality it talks about. Like the rest of the printed philosophic
tradition it doesn't change from day to day, although the world it talks about
does.
Marsha said:
...static value is empty of inherent
dmb,
And Andre added a special ps: please don't give me quotes. Ohhh, but you and
your analogies are so special, so real and true. Zzzz.
Marsha
---
On Sep 28, 2013, at 3:40 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
The Metaphysics of Quality itself is static
Marsha said to dmb:
And Andre added a special ps: please don't give me quotes. Ohhh, but you and
your analogies are so special, so real and true. Zzzz.
dmb says:
Andre asked YOU to answer two questions without giving him quotes, which you
said you would do after I answered your
On Sep 28, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Andre Broersen andrebroer...@gmail.com wrote:
Marsha to Ham:
Hmmm, regardless of half empty/half full, static value is empty of inherent
existence and cannot be found. How is that for a bottom line?
Andre:
Mmmm, I really wonder how you figured that out
On Sep 28, 2013, at 3:40 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
It's not exactly clear how Marsha arrives at the idea that static patterns
are ever-changing but it's clear that she has confused static concepts with
dynamic reality. When we look at the textual evidence, we can
Hi Ham,
Hmmm, regardless of half empty/half full, static value is empty of inherent
existence and cannot be found. How is that for a bottom line?
Marsha
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Hamilton Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
Dear Marsha --
Very early on Tuesday morning you
Marsha to Andre:
Here's what I've been considering lately. What do you think?
Andre:
The DQ/sq distinction is quite clear to me. It seems as though I am not half as
confused about my motorcycle (ZMM) as you are about yours.
Not playing your game Lucy.
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Dear Marsha --
Very early on Tuesday morning you responded as follows to a note from Andre:
Hey Andre,
Here's what I've been considering lately. What do you think?
RMP seems to have split Quality into Dynamic static as a rhetorical
device. I understand the relationship between Dynamic
Hi MarshaV and All,
In a discussion of DQ/SQ I don't see the foundation for the blank space
between the thoughts. Indefinable DQ is not blank space. I experience the
indefinable. I do not know how blank space becomes indefinable.
Is nothing defined as the indefinable?
Nothing and existence
Hi Joe,
On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
In a discussion of DQ/SQ I don't see the foundation for the blank space
between the thoughts.
I suppose insight would be a better term then seeing.
Marsha
Indefinable DQ is not blank
Greetings,
I accept the Metaphysics of Quality's central idea that the world is nothing
but value. I understand Dynamic Value as unpatterned, and static value as
patterned.
Marsha
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Greetings,
In relationship to Buddhism, I find it quite easy to relate static quality (the
patterned) to that which the Buddhists call the 'conditioned', and to relate
Dynamic Quality (the unpatterned) to that which the Buddhist call the
'unconditioned' or Nirvana, that which is unconditioned
Greetings,
The Pali word bhàvana is translated as 'meditation' and means ‘to develop,’ ‘to
cultivate,’ or ‘to expand,’ and represents different practices for
psychological transformation, one being to develop peace-of-mind. Consider it
techniques to explore the philosophy of mind. It is not
That's OK as far as it goes Marsha but how does this address DMB's recent
concerns?
Best wishes,
Ant
Marsha V stated July 30th:
The Pali word bhàvana is translated as 'meditation' and means ‘to develop,’ ‘to
cultivate,’ or ‘to expand,’ and represents different practices for
psychological
Again, that's OK as far as it goes Marsha but how does this address DMB's
recent concerns?
Best wishes,
Ant
Marsha V stated July 30th:
Greetings,
In relationship to Buddhism, I find it quite easy to relate static quality (the
patterned) to that which the Buddhists call the
Ant,
RMP wrote I think the difference in value judgements has produced more
unhappiness, more conflict, more wars and more evil than any other single
source. The idea that something is rigidly good or rigidly true and cannot
change or cannot be relative for different people leads to a kind
David M said:
Well I see your [dmb's] criticism as misguided so I am trying to get you to see
why it is wrong to raise it, this is why I mentioned Kant, obviously Kant sees
there is a noumenal reality that transcends experience and is not a physicalist
and neither am I. How exactly do you
Hi DMB
Another misguided point from yourself because obviously Kant is a dualist,
my point was that he escapes solipsism this way and so that is not a
possible option for the MOQ, so it will need to transcend the individuality
of experience another way, so you invoke a form of common or universal
David M said to dmb:
..., so is this a form of anthropocentrism that your description of the MOQ is
proposing? I think that's a bad move,... I would rather see the MOQ as giving
us DQ and SQ that has more than human import and more than human origin. ...
Now if you limit the MOQ to human
David M said to DMB:
... Now seems to me you want to say look at experience right and you have to
acknowledge the DQ. Great I agree with that but I want to look at all the
levels of SQ and how they have evolved, changed, become and be-gone. To me the
play of SQ reflects DQ, so that all SQ is
Hi DMB
Well I see your criticism as misguided so
I am trying to get you to see why it is
wrong to raise it, this is why I mentioned
Kant, obviously Kant sees there is a noumenal
reality that transcends experience and is not
a physicalist and neither am I. How exactly
do you explain that the MOQ
Ant McWatt comments to David Morey:
David,
I was just looking through your recent conversation with Dave Buchanan about
the MOQ's Dynamic-static terminology and how it can lead to the error of
physicalism (by thinking the term static in the MOQ has something to do with
Newtonian mechanics
M
-Original Message-
From: Jan-Anders Andersson
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:48 AM
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Hello All
Anyone who reads Lila carefully will notice that all through the story it is
very much about how things are related to how
David M said:
Yes water is static, ice is static but the change from one to another is
dynamic, and in a sense difficult to analyse, think Zeno here. And of course
this refers to SQ that we experience and SQ that we may wish to understand as
analysable as patterns that transcend experience,
of others. This is how the MOQ of experience relates
to the wider whole of the cosmos in process.
all the best
David M
-Original Message-
From: david buchanan
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:41 PM
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
David M said:
Yes
@ Adrie
These are all the potential resonance rise points although I think that in
case of exitement you dont go beyond a fase shift 90 degrees. I think that
on every static MOQ level there energy release effects take place.
On a organic quality level i think that a sexual orgasm causes a
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Eddo, are you kidding?
Have you considered checking up the results
@ Adrie
Correctie:
Mine is 104/120 = 0,86667 inverse sinus is about 60 degrees
inverse sinus of 1 is 90 degrees so 90 - 60 is 30 degrees. The difference
between the stable 60 degrees fase shift state and the resonance rise 90
degrees fase shift state.
groeten Eddo
2013/4/9 Eddo
Hi Jan
Thnx for showing me this, I didn't know about Wilhelm reich :)
Before the numbers ad up there are no conclusions, is there no science and
no claim from me. I just noticed that the numbers did add up in the case of
measuring myself. I don't have seen any data from others. They must be
Eddo
The Tecoma Bridge is a good picture. I gave the example of bouncing a basket
ball to the floor in MALC.
By that experiment anyone can experience the feeling in their hands what a
balanced wave can be like. I think it is better than waves of sound and colour
because they are a little more
@Adrie
Correction again1:
I thought my phase shifted formula represented the mu state according to
Pirsig but I am Not sure now
e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt(when cos wt = cos -wt)
.
This is the stable state, like a 3 phase motor or generator
When you add energy(increasing rotation
180° 90° 0° 90° 180
2013/4/8 Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com
@Adrie
Correction again1:
I thought my phase shifted formula represented the mu state according to
Pirsig but I am Not sure now
e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt(when cos wt = cos -wt)
.
This is the stable state, like a 3
@Jan
You probably are a basketbalplayer so your subconscious frame of reference
resonates better with the experience of basketbal.
I am an Engineer who started repairing things at a very young age so i
believe that's the reason why i resonate more with idea's of a elektronic
nature.
Thnx Adrie
This is a comment I can deal with, learn from and helps me to bring my view
in a new pespective.
I come back to you for an answer but for now I am busy to play music all
weekend. Seven english musik friends have come over for a weekend of
playing in Amsterdam.
You're right about
Hi Adrie
Net terug van muziek sessie. Maak je geen zorgen over mijn opslingeringen.
You're worries about my state of resonance rise gives me the idea that you
seem to understand the direction i want to go to. I am taking some more
time to write a propper answer to your mail.
But for the time
correction; basic resonance mu state: e^(iwt+pi/3) + e^-(iwt+pi/3) = coswt
(when cos wt = cos -wt)
2013/4/8 Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com
Hi Adrie
Net terug van muziek sessie. Maak je geen zorgen over mijn opslingeringen.
You're worries about my state of resonance rise gives me the idea
correction again; mu state: e^i(wt+pi/3) + e^-i(wt+pi/3) = coswt(when
cos wt = cos -wt)
Just woke up this can't be right, the math in my head is graphical, that's
why these errors. I am an Engineer, not a Mathematiciam :D
2013/4/7 Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com
correction; basic resonance mu
Eddo, read learrn and chill-out a bit.
Mu state . Zen and the art...someone quoting Roberts observations on
wiki.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)
Good but no good article.
Under “unasking the question” there is a snippet from Zen where
Eddo answered the million dollar question: What's the point?
...Understanding this relationship became even more important during psychotic
episodes when i noticed that the amounts of sensation i had to deal with became
so high that it had a distorting effect on the personality i was (as a
@dumb
Typical you to pick this part being my soft spot as someone with a
psychiatric hystory being honest about it. You are not a philosopher but a
moq philosophologist a politician and a narcistic priest that wants me out
of his church. Good luck with your church. You win! :D probably dropped
First book written in qr code entirely
http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/93a2090d-d655-42b1-a8fa-d59fd3401a07/free-kindle-book-written-entirely-in-qr-code-after-the-revolution-has-passed-us
nice naming , device literature , language only as data-transfer
better attempt than importing math into
Interesting comments though.
J A
4 apr 2013 kl. 10.26 skrev ADRIE KINTZIGER:
First book written in qr code entirely
http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/93a2090d-d655-42b1-a8fa-d59fd3401a07/free-kindle-book-written-entirely-in-qr-code-after-the-revolution-has-passed-us
nice naming , device
Hm , yes ,what i mean to say about connotation/denotation and datatransfer
via language/barcode/math is this..
snowleopard-leopard, written in barcode or qr-code, it will mean only that,
nothing else, but in pure language
a snowleopard without snow is not a lesser snowleopard nor it will become
Hi David
Why don't you respond to the answers i gave you?
Jeez. Is this a discussion group or a psychiatric hostipal?
Are you becomming political here rather than philosophical?
Greetings Eddo
2013/4/4 ADRIE KINTZIGER parser...@gmail.com
First book written in qr code entirely
Hi Adrie, yes I'm Swedish.
Words are just like labels on a jar. You must open the lid and (experience)
taste it for real to be sure what the name stands for. Stll there is no
guarantee for the content of the next item.
Thus, the quality of jam can not be fully defined.
JamAnders
4 apr 2013
How do you do Eddo?
In a scientific mode, scientists are doing research to find knowledge by using
their tools and methods on objects, not upon themselves. It would look very
funny with a group of astronomers pointing their mirror telescopes at each
other instead of at the real stars.
I've
Ja said to Adrie
Words are just like labels on a jar. You must open the lid and (experience)
taste it for real to be sure what the name stands for. Stll there is no
guarantee for the content of the next item.
Thus, the quality of jam can not be fully defined.
spoken like socrates would have
Hi Adri
The mathemathics i use speaks of a real and a immaginairy dimension. I use
this to be able to distinguish between sensation and information. It's sort
of the same distinction between denotations and connotation in your way of
thinking only in a more strict manner. The reason i started
I am very fine, Thank you Jan! Like a rat in a sewer or a pig in the mud
Jan said:
In a scientific mode, scientists are doing research to find knowledge by
using their tools and methods on objects, not upon themselves. It would
look very funny with a group of astronomers pointing their mirror
Eddo
4 apr 2013 kl. 11:56 skrev Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com:
I am very fine, Thank you Jan! Like a rat in a sewer or a pig in the mud
Jan said:
In a scientific mode, scientists are doing research to find knowledge by
using their tools and methods on objects, not upon themselves. It would
Eddo said to dmb:
...How does a person strip every bit of information from every emotion? The
use of the word every emotion implies that there are more than one and that
there are differences between those emotions. Consciously you can only be aware
of those differences in terms of
Hi David, thnx for the reply (hopefully horse doesn't see this = 5th post)
I see you have noticed that i like to reduce everything to information and
sensation. To me every component of information(as a composition of waves)
is joined witt a component sensation( as a range of feeling from I Like
Ahem! the dutch was a mating ritual,but in an english environment it
looks and sounds like a social handicap.
Yes of course , we will write in english from now on.
THx horse
Adrie
2013/4/2 Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net
Ahem! English please :)
Horse
On 02/04/2013 09:41, Eddo Rats
buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com
The mathematics of pure sensation? I hope this is some kind of April Fools
Day joke.
From: antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 00:23:45 +
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Eddo,
I just knew you and Joe
Hi Adri and Horse
What if we talk Mathematics? is that allowed? ;-)
2013/4/3 ADRIE KINTZIGER parser...@gmail.com
Ahem! the dutch was a mating ritual,but in an english environment it
looks and sounds like a social handicap.
Yes of course , we will write in english from now on.
THx
dmb said:
The mathematics of pure sensation? I hope this is some kind of April Fools Day
joke.
Eddo replied:
If it is too confusing for your current belief system to handle, just ask what
you want me to clarify.
dmb says:
Okay. How does a person strip every bit of information from every
Hi David
Yeah psychotic people can be a real pain in the ass as it comes to thinking
differently. Look what it did to Robert Pirsig and where we are now. It
comes from being outside the culture, the Matrix or The Mythos as Robert
Pirsig called it in ZMM. Pirsig was a Philosophologist when he
LOL! (though it was interesting to see how Adrie had constructed her bi-lingual
English-Dutch Discuss post).
Best wishes,
Ant
Eddo Rats asked (rhetorically) April 3rd 2013:
Hi Adrie and Horse
What if we talk Mathematics? is that allowed? ;-)
2013/4/3 ADRIE KINTZIGER
Ant McWatt comments:
I generally tend to have the same suspicions as Dave here. I probably receive
correspondence about the new secret of the universe once every month and most
of this - once you slowly go through each step of the great new idea - through
the usual evading tactics of
Thnx Ant, for giving me the benevit of the doubt. Believe me the last thing
i want to be is a savior or a celebrity. My thought's have risen from a
sort of mental survival mode in an effort to regain my sanity! The last
twenty years i have seen how psychiatric pseudo science is struggling
without
Lol!!no his! his! not her...It (the bilingual post) was a check-out for the
statement from Eddo that he is better in his native tongue,.
importantly because this was always one of my biggest problems so far , the
use of archaic barney flintsone alike sentences.
why i oppose to the use of math in
dmb said:
The mathematics of pure sensation? I hope this is some kind of April Fools
Day joke.
Eddo replied:
If it is too confusing for your current belief system to handle, just ask
what you want me to clarify.
dmb says:
Okay. How does a person strip every bit of information from every
emotion?
The dutch artist chielie wrote the first 12 poems in qr code
http://sargasso.nl/kunst-op-zondag-qr-code-gedichten/
try to find the connotations
Adrie
2013/4/4 ADRIE KINTZIGER parser...@gmail.com
dmb said:
The mathematics of pure sensation? I hope this is some kind of April Fools
Day joke.
Qr code, Greek or Mayan, it only has meaning if it is understood.
ADRIE KINTZIGER parser...@gmail.com wrote:
The dutch artist chielie wrote the first 12 poems in qr code
http://sargasso.nl/kunst-op-zondag-qr-code-gedichten/
try to find the connotations
Adrie
2013/4/4 ADRIE KINTZIGER
Hello Ant, Dave,
What raises suspicion is usually the contrast of analytic philosophy
with continental philosophy. The logical positivists considered analytic
philosphy useful only in the clarification of thoughts but that those thoughts
are culturally derrived is the consideration most analytic
Adrie said to dmb:
Long time no see,...only on first sight, i'v kept on reading in the archives
for most of the time of my absence here. Missed you and Arlo and Dan and
Horse,(marsha) but my mother died and i had a hard time.
dmb says:
Sorry for your loss. I can relate. I lost a sister and
Ant McWatt said:
..I probably receive correspondence about the new secret of the universe once
every month and most of this [...] is arcane nonsense. However, being a
philosopher (rather than a philosophiologist) is - I think anyway - about
trying to keep an open, beginner's mind. So
Hi Joe and Antony and everybody else
you got me there Joe :-D I am just, like many philosophhers, a theoretical
system/map builder, I was just speaking from my baudrillard map point of
view.
But what is reality? From my point of view does the immaginairy information
I experience as real(my
Hi Anthony
I am pleased to finally be able to discuss with you :D
Sub-atomic particles to me are just pieces of information that came into
existance by judging our observed universe in the most pragmatic way. Like,
as pirsig pointed out, Henry poincare explained our prefered use of euclids
Joe,
DQ
is
indeterminate.
IMHO.
Marsha
On Apr 1, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
The discussion embraces the path to knowledge without the analysis of the
theory of knowledge. The logic of mathematics, defined experience, cannot
Goodmornig Joe
If you say; Emotions are indefineable, you say that you can distinguish
between different emotions without having any idea(information/definition)
what they are, am i right?
Best regards Eddo
2013/4/2 Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net
Hi Edo Rats
SQ/DQ metaphysics are
hi , Eddo.
Eddo wrote
But what is reality? From my point of view does the immaginairy information
I experience as real(my consciousness) only exist in my mind as a
immaginairy information difference between what I already subjectively am
and what I objectively encounter every moment. Thats
Hoi Adri
Je mag dit niet als kritiek zien, Eddo,want ik zie je interesse in
filosofie en dat is aan te moedigen maar het komt nogal wikipedia-achtig
over allemaal.Dat is ook niet af te wijzen maar mag niet het enige zijn als
intellectuele onderbouw.
Iedereen filosofeert zo op zijn eigen manier
Ahem! English please :)
Horse
On 02/04/2013 09:41, Eddo Rats wrote:
Hoi Adri
Je mag dit niet als kritiek zien, Eddo,want ik zie je interesse in
filosofie en dat is aan te moedigen maar het komt nogal wikipedia-achtig
over allemaal.Dat is ook niet af te wijzen maar mag niet het enige zijn als
The mathematics of pure sensation? I hope this is some kind of April Fools Day
joke.
From: antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 00:23:45 +
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Eddo,
I just knew you and Joe would get the other one thinking
...@moqtalk.org
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 00:23:45 +
Subject: Re: [MD] DQ/sq as WATER/ice
Eddo,
I just knew you and Joe would get the other one thinking!
I'm sure Joe will be disputing the concluding sentence from your last post
in the near future though, in the meantime, am I correct
Hi Eddo and all,
IMHO Reality is tied to existence rather than definition in DQ/SQ
metaphysics. For myself I accept evolution as levels in existence as the
first premise.
Joe
On 4/1/13 11:31 PM, Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com wrote:
But what is reality?
Moq_Discuss mailing list
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Hi MarshaV and All,
I do not know what you mean by indeterminate? Indefinable, definable, noun,
adjective, adverb etc? I agree that a theory of knowledge by abstraction
like SOM is not logical.
Direct experience, DQ, requires that I tweak my theory of knowledge to the
acceptance of
Hi Eddo Rats,
DQ/SQ metaphysics accepts the reality of indefinable DQ. IMHO emotions are
DQ experience. False emotions SQ are definable. Ideas, percept/concept
are intellectual SQ experience.
Joe
On 4/2/13 12:21 AM, Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com wrote:
Goodmornig Joe
If you say;
Joe,
Strictly speaking, the creation of any metaphysics is an immoral act since
it's a lower form of evolution, intellect, trying to devour a higher mystic
one. The same thing that's wrong with philosophology when it tries to control
and devour philosophy is wrong with metaphysics when it
Joe,
Directly experiencing DQ is directly realizing that there is nothing (nothing
divisible, definable and knowable) persisting from moment to moment.
Marsha
On Mar 31, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha V, and All,
Fundamental nature needs some
On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:30 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
dmb:
Crazy is such a strong word. Let's just say she's [Marsha] conceptually
promiscuous.
Marsha:
You are so correct. You own the truth. You are an individual with high
intellectual competency.
April Fools!!!
Hi Joseph and all
I respect your point your point of view;
quote The theory of knowledge of MOQ is direct experience. I experience
DQ,
indefinable! I experience SQ definable. Words delineating experience like
DQ are indefinable not patterns. Emotions are indefinable and I suggest the
base for
Hi MarshaV and All,
The discussion embraces the path to knowledge without the analysis of the
theory of knowledge. The logic of mathematics, defined experience, cannot
logically validate indefinable emotions DQ/SQ.
The SOM metaphysical suggestion of abstraction as the value of knowledge is
Hello Joe
Honestly, I don't understand much of what you are writing and my pedagogic
talent is close to zero. How do you choose your words?
Jan Anders
1 apr 2013 kl. 22:01 skrev Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net:
Hi MarshaV and All,
The discussion embraces the path to knowledge without the
Hi Joseph
Quote
The logic of mathematics, defined experience, cannot
logically validate indefinable emotions DQ/SQ.
Sorry i don't agree
I am sensation(emotion) in the first place. Without sensation no existance.
In a meta-physical/mathematecal system i can choose a dimension to
represent that
Hi Eddo Rats,
Welcome. I am not a mathematician. I appreciate that Mathematically
approachable is a description for rigid logic.
DQ is indefinable. I have to tweak my consciousness to try to find
something in myself which validates a perception of the indefinable. I
cannot define Love. I
Hi Jan-Anders Anderson,
I try to be open so the words can choose me so to speak!
Joe
On 4/1/13 1:07 PM, Jan-Anders Andersson janander...@telia.com wrote:
Hello Joe
Honestly, I don't understand much of what you are writing and my pedagogic
talent is close to zero. How do you choose your
Hi Eddo Rats,
It seems to me that Emotion and Sensation have different nerve connections.
Joe
On 4/1/13 1:34 PM, Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com wrote:
I am sensation(emotion) in the first place.
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joe,
every moment now is theoretical a moment of infinite possibillities. for
some part we trust to know what to expect. I would call that SQ the other
part that we can't trust is DQ. and of course are the things we least
expect to happen the most emotional.
Eddo
2013/4/1 Joseph Maurer
Joe
In my opinion is the most ideal situation the one of perfect harmony or
total resonance. An ideal situation where al information dissolves because
subject and object information cancel each other out and what's left is a
pure mysthical emotion. Reality makes us deal with a for ever changing
Joe and all
It seems to me that Emotion and Sensation have different nerve connections.
When we talk about emotions we often talk about al kinds of emotion e.g.
love fear jalousy etc. it's the way we are used to couple certain
information with sensation in everydag language use. When you strip
Hi Eddo Rats,
How can a moment be theoretical? If a moment is imaginary it can be
described as an indefinable reality of infinite possibilities. If the
moment is real it is existing reality.
Joe
On 4/1/13 2:33 PM, Eddo Rats edd...@gmail.com wrote:
joe,
every moment now is theoretical a
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