sprinklers are provided around the
perimeter of the pool area.
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Yes... CMSA...
NFPA 13, 2016 ed. Table 12.12.1.2(b)
Also, see FMDS 8-24 Table 3...
Flow (25) 11.2K uprights at 25 psi
I think you could use CMDA criteria from Table A.12.12.1.1(a) and increase the
area of operation by 30%??
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that prepare the sprinkler documents have scrutinized areas from
which sprinklers can be omitted and limited them to the greatest extent
possible.
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Gregg,
Take a look at A.11.1.4.2 last paragraph. I don't believe it matters if the
water supply for the hydrants is from a fire pump or a municipal supply, the
intention is for the sprinkler demand and the fire flow to be separate
stand-alone calculations.
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and the hose
allowance, but not the fire flow.
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hazard classification in accordance with
NFPA 13.
Exception: Existing buildings.
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to be questioning whether this should be a listed
fire pump installed per NFPA 20 or if this is can be looked at as though it is
like a municipal system until you hit the backflow.
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be an acceptable water supply source
I couldn’t find a definition of ‘waterworks’ in NFPA or IBC.
BTW, 2018 IBC is applicable.
Any help or code/standard references are appreciated.
Thank you.
Reed Roisum
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Ed,
I think if you are going to stop posting you should end with a doozy, not
something as innocuous as below...stir things up a bit. B-rad ical. Help Mr.
Denhardt earn his keep.
Seriously, thank you for all of your wisdom shared.
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.
What will make our industry “push back”? Is there enough of an incentive for
sprinkler contractors to “push back”?
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These might also be applicable…
NFPA 652: Standard on the Fundamentals of Combustible Dust
NFPA 664: Standard for the Prevention of Fires and Explosions in Wood
Processing and Woodworking Facilities
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Check out FMDS 8-29 Refrigerated Storage...particularly the section on
'Prevention of Ice Plugs'.
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-walled storage tank acts as the
secondary means of containment, the exception would allow the omission of the
leakage containment area for all flammable and combustible liquids.
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I don't think you will find anything in NFPA 13 higher than 40'. I tried to
check FM Global Data Sheet 8-24, but FM's website is down...probably worth
taking a look if you have a copy or when the site is back up.
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-pipe) and
0.5/3000 for ceilings up to 60’. FMDS 3-26
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should be consulted in each case. A building is considered sprinklered
throughout when protected in accordance with the requirements of this standard.
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NFPA 484 Combustible Metals
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,
dryers, furnaces, or water heaters shall be sprinklered, regardless of size.
This section is only in New Apartment Buildings and not in New Hotels though.
Anyone have a reference that makes it clear whether this space is to be
protected or not?
Thanks.
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ment such as washers,
dryers, furnaces, or water heaters shall be sprinklered, regardless of size.
This section is only in New Apartment Buildings and not in New Hotels though.
Anyone have a reference that makes it clear whether this space is to be
protected or not?
Thanks.
Reed Roisum
Reed
If you are in NFPA 13, 2013 edition or newer I believe the check valve is
required.
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rooms.
Not trying to be difficult Steve, but is having a potential ignition source or
not relevant to what the sprinkler density should be? What if you had rack
storage of plastics in a room with the only ignition source the house
electrical system??
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ed.
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to be performed again?
Thank you.
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State of Minnesota… 2015 MN Building Code
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I’m not planning on it…unless the owner requests it. I don’t believe they
would be required.
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No. They didn’t have a requirement for automatic standpipes when the current
system was installed as the fire pump is clearly not sized for automatic. We
are adding hose connections to meet the building code and replacing the fire
pump.
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technically only have a single
standpipe, I don’t believe we would add another 250 gpm?? Is that correct? I
would just flow 250 gpm at the 3 most remote hose connections on third floor??
Thank you.
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ratings when
there are multiple systems that will affect each other if they operate? Or,
secondarily, I will take any opinions/justifications on what should be rated
what.
Thank you.
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Materials, which is
taken from NFPA 33?
EH2, separate valve, cellophane or paper bags over the sprinklers, sprinklers
in stacks or ducts spaced every 12', etc.
Thank you.
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Not sure about everything in the tunnel, but I know there is some steam piping
and domestic water piping.
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them.
I’m not necessarily looking for opinions on whether we should or shouldn’t
protect the tunnels, but more so, what the intent of 8.15 is in regards to
tunnels or if there are other references in the IBC (2012) or elsewhere that
would shed more light.
Thank you.
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Reed
13, 2013 ed.
8.6.4.1.2? I believe (1) is the only arrangement that works for this scenario.
Was the 1-6” below the bottom of the structural member added in recent years?
Thank you.
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nformation…
FMDS 06-17 Rotary Kilns and Dryers
FMDS 07-10 Wood Processing and Woodworking Facilities
FMDS 07-73 Dust Collectors
FMDS 07-04 Pulp Dryers
Any help or direction is appreciated.
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It is in 1996. 5-2.3.2.5
Can’t find it in 1989. I don’t have a 1994 or 1991.
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s say in accordance
with NFPA 13 or 14 and provide sufficient length of hose. So, I take that to
mean if you can't cover the stage with the length of hose provided from a
single connection, then you would need on both sides. Is that correct Mr.
Leyton?
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Hose connections shall be equipped with an approved
adjustable fog nozzle and be mounted in a cabinet or on a rack.
I have found that many fire departments do not want these installed so worth
checking...actually, State of MN amended out this section in their building
code.
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Your still kickin' B-rad!
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think we will be just fine as
I suggest.
Thank you everyone for the help.
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they are being used.
6.2.1.4 Quick-response sprinklers discharging a minimum of 0.1 gpm/ft2 (4.1
mm/min) shall be permitted to be used in mechanical closets.
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Thanks Travis. Can you please point me to where it says that?
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Are residential sprinklers required for dwelling units in NFPA 13R? It appears
as though they can be QR or residential in the 2012 IBC (903.3.2). For some
reason I had in my mind that they needed to be residential within the dwelling
unit or sleeping unit??
Thanks.
Reed R.
Reed A. Roisum
Correct.
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Thanks Craig. Yes, the valve room is below grade.
If we use nitrogen to charge the dry system then would we just use standard DI?
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. Is ductile iron
the best option for the underground portion? We are able to slope to drain
back to the valve room.
Thank you.
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That’s what I was looking for! Thanks Ben.
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quantities
are taken out and used in the lab facility is there something in NFPA 30 that
says protect these areas to OH2? It seems reasonable to me but I need to
justify it with something solid and written in the standard.
Thanks.
Reed
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It is a medical lab so portions are definitely light hazard but areas that are
using and storing the flammable liquids would be OH2 IMO.
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or combustible liquids are stored in approved cabinets that you basically don't
have to account for their presence?...at least I believe that is the intent so
please correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you.
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I do receive Sprinkler Age…didn’t see that I guess.
I was able to get an answer from the Assistant Fire Marshal in Omaha. They are
in the process of changing to a more current edition, but are currently in the
2002 edition.
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page is under
construction so I am having trouble finding anything definitive.
Thank you.
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for Class III solid pile storage. NFPA 13,
2013 edition 14.2.4 gives design criteria for Class III solid piled over 12 ft
in height.
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. It may be because
I believe NFPA 1, 2012 edition is the adopted fire code and that would
reference NFPA 13, 2010 edition??
Can anyone point me to something definitive for Wisconsin’s applicable edition
of NFPA 13?
Thank you.
Reed
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underneath?
Thank you for any insight.
Reed
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to take your advice and not pursue any other method of
protecting this building besides installing a fire pump and design per the
current codes and standards.
Thanks for the advice.
Reed
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psi at the elevation of the highest sprinkler in a pipe
schedule system, that a fire pump is the only option.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Reed
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the building, but
just wondering if that is the only option, or if there are other, not as good,
options.
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that would be willing to get you started by
walking you through the basics?? 10 minutes and a sketch would go a long ways.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
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e schedule and doesn't work hydraulically.
Any insight or ideas will be appreciated.
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Good point Steve. One of your most eloquent. :)
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Guess I was meaning accessible in the NFPA defined way, “Spaces or concealed
areas of construction that can be entered via openable panels, doors hatches,
or other readily movable elements (e.g., ceiling tiles).”
I’d have to argue the “everything is doable” notion also ☺.
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another option would be to add gyp to the bottom of the joists and fill
above with insulation.
Thanks for the input.
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Do all sprinklers have to be accessible? If so, does anyone have reference?
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, if it still makes sense to flow water at least every 3 years rather
than just use a meter loop.
Thank you.
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requires that valve be close to the
pump?
Thanks.
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We have consulted the code authority in which I was able to reference the IFC
and NFPA 13 standards. We are also going to work with the FM Global Rep but I
wanted to have references to the FM Data Sheets if there were any.
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to the topic.
Thank you.
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piping, not existing. Unfortunately we
are using the owner’s spec and not ours so there is more opportunity for
shenanigans ☺.
Thank you.
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Did you mean calc plates or Hydraulic Design Information Sign?
Found in 1996 ed. 8-5 Hydraulic Design Information Sign but can’t see it in
1989 ed. I don’t have anything in between.
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Does anyone have any experience with Cellulose Nitrate Film storage? NFPA 40
has a lot of good information but I would like to talk with someone with some
experience if possible.
Thanks.
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with a listed indicating
valve in an accessible location, so located as to control all automatic sources
of water supply.
8.16.1.1.7* Control Valve Accessibility. All control valves shall be located
where readily accessible and free of obstructions.
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, “Permanent ladders, clamped treads on risers, chain-operated hand wheels,
or other accepted means should be provided where necessary.”
Any guidance is appreciated.
Thanks.
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sense to me that it would depend on the type and quantities of combustible
liquids.
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liquids, or furniture. Incidental combustible storage in the vestibule is
limited to 5 ft3 of material.
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Does “log-grade” mean worse than finished lumber grade?
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, the potential for a
shielded fire.
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Thanks Rick.
No, the supply piping to each tenant is above ground. The controls for the
building are located near the center of the building and supplied with overhead
piping from there.
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Mississauga.
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.
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find if that is to flow 4
sprinklers on 3 lines or 3 sprinklers on 4 lines or something else??
Can anyone point me to where you determine how many sprinklers per line to
include?
Thanks.
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and be mounted in a cabinet or on a rack.
If you choose to install a 1 1/2" hose connection in accordance with NFPA 13,
go to 8.17.5 (2013 ed.).
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Chris,
Have you looked at Pyrotech? http://pyrotechusa.com/
What is the application? Explosion protection?
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oordinated
with the sprinkler operating temperatures.
NFPA 13, 2013 ed. 12.1.1.2 "ESFR sprinklers shall not be used in buildings with
automatic heat or smoke vents unless the vents use a high-temperature rated,
standard-response operating mechanism."
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s a 'private fire service main' is that pipe
between a source of water and the water supply side of the first above ground
connection to a sprinkler or standpipe system.
Thanks.
Reed
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sayin'... :)
Sincerely,
Les B. Consistent
Deputy of Grammar and Spelling
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
http://www.kfiengineers.com
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You just have to remember that if you are in a burning car you should get out
before you enter the garage...or, make sure you shut the garage door once
inside.
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile
IFC 2012, Appendix B
Section B105 Fire-Flow Requirements For Buildings
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
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-combustible construction but the plastic sheeting for walls
is going to be a hurdle I would guess.
Thanks.
Reed
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
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of the highest story is located more than 30 feet above
the lowest level of the FD vehicle access.
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
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Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection
Designer | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9903 | mobile: 701.388.1352 |
http://www.kfiengineers.com
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Behalf Of Steve
Steve agrees that the IFC commentary figure does not agree with the code
language and should be disregarded. A mezzanine is clearly not a story. Sorry
for the confusion...I thought I was safe when I was just quoting what I read in
the code commentary.
Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges
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