Re: A News Group that Takes Attachments please.

[NoOp]

On 03/28/2009 07:22 AM, Mark Hansen wrote:

> 
> I use a modern news reader which shows messages in a threaded fashion,
> and I have it configured to show threads with unread messages.

You might want to update that 'modern' newsreader from 1.1.13 to 1.1.15:


> 
> My comment wasn't that everyone should do it my way, or that the poster
> shouldn't include some context in his post.

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Re: Marking Software

[NoOp]

On 03/28/2009 01:55 AM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

> If you hear of one for Linux, that is easier than the GIMP (Photoshop 
> equivalent), please let me know.
> Sorry I misread your query. Barry

http://shutter-project.org/about/
[edit your screenshots directly using the embedded drawing tool]

https://launchpad.net/shutter

It's still pretty new, so there are issues/bugs
https://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bugs?
but overall it's a pretty cool app in the making.


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Re: 0.9560022 Does This Look Good? ... 0.4366621

[NoOp]

On 03/29/2009 04:41 PM, iwant...@0.5862007nowathome.com wrote:
[spam]

Sigh... Now if I could figure out a way to have SeaMonkey 2.x not only
block by IP, but also by IP blocks/networks I'd be a very happy guy.

Spamhaus has the whole /19 of this Verizon net blocked.
71.188.96.0/19 is listed on the Policy Block List (PBL)



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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[NoOp]

On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote:
> I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in
> /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the
> first start as root, I get this error:
> 
>   ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries:

./seamonkey

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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0

[NoOp]

On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:
> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
>> Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in.  If you look back at the last 50
>> or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
>> sending in plain text.  SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
>> if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
>> proportional font, etc.  I won't repeat what I've already written.
>> 
> 
> but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!
> 
> A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the 
> emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML, 
> etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!
> 
> 
>> To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
>> religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
>> 8-{
>> /j
>> 
> 
> and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you 
> are responding in your reply!!!
> 
> Daniel

And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:

Organization: http://groups.google.com

:-)

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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[NoOp]

On 03/30/2009 05:00 PM, Bob Barrett wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote:
>>   
>>> I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in
>>> /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the
>>> first start as root, I get this error:
>>>
>>>   ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
>>> 
>>
>> ./seamonkey
>>
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>>   
> Thanks for the quick response.
> 
> Sorry. It looks like I forgot to supply that part.
> 
> After trying to start it the first time as root' (with ./seamonkey),
> I received the error message.
> 
> Bob
> 

I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.

Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
recommended for any browser/suite.



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Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0

[NoOp]

On 03/31/2009 05:17 PM, Daniel wrote:
> NoOp wrote:

>> I'll have to install into /usr/local/ on a test machine. All of my
>> installs are installed to /home//Seamonkey or Seamonkey2.
>> 
>> Can I ask why you wish to run as root? That is generally *not*
>> recommended for any browser/suite.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> NoOp, I can sort of remember that the instructions for SM say it must be 
> run as root the first time to finish the installation.
> 
> But don't quote me, things do change!!
> 
> Daniel

Nope. There is *no* requirement at all to run SM as root or even to
install in a /usr/local directory. Unfortunately the default install
script is set to /usr/local; there has been considerable discussion in
the past regarding this very issue. All of my systems run SeaMonkey in
~/ and I've encountered no problems with regards to that yet. The only
thing that you need to do is change the install directory when you
initially install - there is a thread here somewhere were I've described
how to do that, if I find time tomorrow I'll see if I can dig it out.

IMO there *never* should be occasion to install SM in a root permissions
based directory/folder. I suspect that this is some type of hangover
from installing system wide. I suppose that there are reasons/instances
where you'd want to install SM on a system-wide basis, however this
should be the exception rather than the rule.


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Re: server pop

[NoOp]

On 04/02/2009 06:50 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> none wrote:
>> Hello,   I am so new to this programme.I do not understand.I 
>> keep getting msg:  cannot connect to server pop3.
>> 
>> What in Heaven's Name can I do
> 
> What is your Internet Service Provider ?

According to this:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.183.177.42

It's telus Canada.

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Re: Processing Folder - NOT!

[NoOp]

On 04/02/2009 06:27 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>> OK there is some kind of issue with AVG email scanner. If I disable the
>> email scanner it works. Odd I have similar configurations on other
>> computes that work just fine.
>> 
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> George Carden wrote:
>>>
 Shut down Seamonkey.  Then, try deleting the .msf file for the Inbox
 you're talking about in your Profiles mail folder.  Then re-start
 Seamonkey.  See if that works.
> 
> Well then turn off email scanning, it really a redundant feature and is
> not necessary.  You don't get a virus just by uploading or downloading a
> file, it's when you try to open it or run it is when you get infected.
> The resident virus protection is all you really need as it will detect
> the virus when you open or run the file, and then prevent it from
> infecting your machine.  That is if your virus definitions are up to date.
> 
> - --

Please fix your sig... it's dash dash space --

> 
> Roy Smith
> Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
> Remove N O S P A M when replying by email.

Rob is running Windows:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19)
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14

So you might want to revise your statement...

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[Resolved] Re: Processing Folder - SOLVED!

[NoOp]

On 04/03/2009 11:32 AM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> My problem wasn't really Seamonkey, It was with the AVG email scanner, 
> which hung when it got the expired certificate. Seamonkey worked like it 
> was supposed to, even with the expired certificate. I later found out 
> AVG also worked if I turned off TLS in Seamonkey,
> 
> Thanks to everyone here helping me figure this out.

It's always a good thing to add a [Resolved] or [Solved] tag to the
subject when you've got it sorted out. That way folks that don't read/or
can't read the entire thread don't continue to add 'suggestions'.

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Re: 1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[NoOp]

On 04/05/2009 03:06 AM, BeeNeR wrote:
> I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup then
> select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would disappear.
> 
> With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group
> that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to the
> newsgroup I wanted to mark read.
> 
> In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without having
> to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.
> 
> Ed

Works for me (1.1.16 linux).

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Re: 1.1.16 - News Group Problem

[NoOp]

On 04/06/2009 03:42 AM, BeeNeR wrote:
> On or about 4/6/2009 1:40 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov typed the following:
>> Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:06:43 -0400, /BeeNeR/:
>> 
>>> I used to be able to move my cursor and right click on a newsgroup
>>> then select 'mark news group read", left click and message count would
>>> disappear.
>>>
>>> With 1.1.16 the same process moves my selection back to the news group
>>> that was selected and still highlighted before I moved the cursor to
>>> the newsgroup I wanted to mark read.
>>>
>>> In other words I could previously mark a newsgroup 'read' without
>>> having to 'open' the newsgroup with a 'left click'.
>> 
>> I could reproduce your problem by not opening the group I would like to
>> mark as read, at all.  If I just open the group then open another one, I
>> can mark the former as read using a right-click.  Can you confirm this
>> was not a case with previous SeaMonkey versions?  Could it be a
>> temporary index file problem?
>> 
> 
> No, i can't confirm that it did/didn't work in previous versions.
> I just noticed it since I added mozilla.test to my Mozilla News groups.
> Normally I wouldn't open mozilla.test unless I had posted there so to
> keep things to a minimum when opening Mozilla News I just placed the
> cursor on mozilla.test, right clicked, selected mark newsgroup read, and
> the cursor jumps back to the previously selected newsgroup without
> marking mozilla.test read.
> 
> Since it does highlight the selected group I thought it should work.
> 
> 
> Ed

Oddly enough, I see this behaviour in SM 2.0b1pre but did not on 1.1.16.
I'll need to to compare the two a little closer to see if I can figure
out why I get it on one, but not on the other. In the interim, you might
want to search bugzilla to see if you can spot an already existing bug.


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[Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been
running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone
troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading
from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup
errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32
directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 & 1.1.16
required reboots.

If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error
on startup:

WindowsSearch.exe - Ordinal Not Found
The ordinal 49 could not be located in the synamic link library MAPI32.dll.

If I move the SM mapi32.dll (Mozilla version 0.8.0.0) out of the way and
replace it with the original MS version (4.0.835.1374), I no longer
receive the error & SM seems to continue to work just fine. Note: I have
to keep copy of the MS version in a temp/backup folder as SM keeps
overwriting the original - whats up with that?

The Microsoft WindowsSearch.exe is version 7.0.6001.16503.

I seem to recall some discussion regarding Mozilla interference with
mapi32.dll files in the past, but I've been on linux for a few years now
and had thought that any issues like this had been sorted out. Is anyone
else experiencing mapi32.dll issues?

Crossposted to: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey set



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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 07:59 AM, Terry R. wrote:
> The date and time was Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:10:07 PM, and on a 
> whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard:
> 
>> I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been
>> running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone
>> troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading
>> from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup
>> errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32
>> directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 & 1.1.16
>> required reboots.
>> 
>> If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error
>> on startup:
>> 
>> WindowsSearch.exe - Ordinal Not Found
>> The ordinal 49 could not be located in the synamic link library MAPI32.dll.
>> 
>> If I move the SM mapi32.dll (Mozilla version 0.8.0.0) out of the way and
>> replace it with the original MS version (4.0.835.1374), I no longer
>> receive the error & SM seems to continue to work just fine. Note: I have
>> to keep copy of the MS version in a temp/backup folder as SM keeps
>> overwriting the original - whats up with that?
>> 
>> The Microsoft WindowsSearch.exe is version 7.0.6001.16503.
>> 
>> I seem to recall some discussion regarding Mozilla interference with
>> mapi32.dll files in the past, but I've been on linux for a few years now
>> and had thought that any issues like this had been sorted out. Is anyone
>> else experiencing mapi32.dll issues?
>> 
>> Crossposted to: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
>> Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey set
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Windows Search most recent version is 4.
> http://www.file.net/process/windowssearch.exe.html

Yeah, it's 4.0 & the file is valid:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/choose/windowssearch4.mspx?tab=Install
It>
I was refering to the actual windowssearch.exe file version.

> 
> I would suggest a malware scan using Malwarebytes and Spybot:
> http://www.malwarebytes.org/
> http://www.safer-networking.org/index2.html
> 
> I have SP3 and my mapi32.dll version is 1.0.2536.0. The last time I had 
> that issue was 1998, as I realized I have a backup file of the moz mapi 
> file in the system32 folder.
> 
> If you copy the SM mapi32.dll file to the SM program folder, does it work?
> 
> 
> Terry R.

Thanks for the suggestions... however the only malware in this case is
SM replacing mapi32.dll in C:\windows\system32. It's quite simple to
reproduce:

1. Put original mapi32.dll in system32
2. Reinstall SM 1.1.1x and watch SM replace the existing mapi32.dll with
it's own, and rename the previous mapi32.dll to mapi32_Mozilla.dll.

Doesn't get much simpler than that.

Philip hit the nail on the head w/
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109362>

I'll pursue that one, thanks.


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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/09/2009 09:42 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:10:07 -0700, NoOp wrote:
...
>> I seem to recall some discussion regarding Mozilla interference with
>> mapi32.dll files in the past, but I've been on linux for a few years now
>> and had thought that any issues like this had been sorted out. Is anyone
>> else experiencing mapi32.dll issues?
>> 
>> Crossposted to: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
>> Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey set
> 
> There are a bunch of MAPI32.DLL bugs in bugzilla, most of them have been
> duplicated to:
> 
> Bug 109362 - Installing/setting Mozilla as default mail breaks other
> clients (e.g. groupwise, outlook) (bad mapi32.dll)
> 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109362>
> 
> This is nominated for "wanted‑thunderbird3" I think this should be
> blocking-thunderbird3 since the problem will be even worse with Vista
> and Windows7.
> 
> Phil
> 

Yep. That's the one - thanks! I'll add a note to that bug later today.

Gary

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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 09:11 AM, Frank Wein wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been
>> running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone
>> troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading
>> from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup
>> errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32
>> directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 & 1.1.16
>> required reboots.
>> 
>> If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error
>> on startup:
> [...]
> 
> Try deleting the registry key
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Mozilla\Desktop\Mapi_backup_dll (if it
> exists, that is :). 

No key; I even did a registry search.

Then it should no longer replace the file. I'm not
> sure why the registry entry might be there, just check if it is and
> report back? Normally it should only exist when a very old IE version
> (<5.5 as far as I know) was once installed, which can normally not be
> the case on Windows XP.
> 
> Frank

I should note that I have both 1.1.16 and 2.0a3 installed on that box.

Probably the easiest would be for one of the WinXP users here to install
the WindowsSearch:
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/choose/windowssearch4.mspx?tab=Install_it>
I reinstalled and as soon as I did, the error popped up - didn't even
have to reboot.

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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 04:23 PM, Terry R. wrote:

> 
> Actually it would be better for you to uninstall WS.  I don't allow that 
> search crap on any workstations I manage.  Nothing but a performance hit.
> 
> 
> Terry R.

I agree in general - I use linux. However, that doesn't negate the fact
that the SM mapi32.dll causes issues with quite new & recent MS
applications. I'd much prefer to find a fix so that SM doesn't interfere
with other applications. Further, if you read the bug provided by
Philip, there are other, more critical applications that this affects
(Groupwise & Outlook for example). I think it better to spend some time
resolving the issue rather than having new users experience issues with
applications that they chose to install on their systems.



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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 05:19 PM, Frank Wein wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 04/10/2009 09:11 AM, Frank Wein wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote:
>>>> I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been
>>>> running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone
>>>> troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading
>>>> from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup
>>>> errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32
>>>> directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 & 1.1.16
>>>> required reboots.
>>>>
>>>> If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error
>>>> on startup:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Try deleting the registry key
>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Mozilla\Desktop\Mapi_backup_dll (if it
>>> exists, that is :). 
>> 
>> No key; I even did a registry search.
> [...]
> 
> Hrm, strange. As far as I see this, there are two places in the code
> where mapi32.dll can be replaced with the SeaMonkey mozMapi32.dll:
> 1) On install, but only if these two conditions are met:
> 299 // If Mapi_backup_dll *and* the default var of
> 300 // HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Clients\Mail is set, then install
> 301 // mozMapi32.dll to the windows system dir as Mapi32.dll.
> 2) When setting SeaMonkey MailNews as default mail client and the
> Mapi32.dll file present is some old dll (as mentioned before) or another
> strange version of the DLL. Here I wonder a bit: The Mapi32.dll I have
> here on Windows XP has as version "1.0.2536.0" (5.1.2600.0 as product
> version) and as description "Extended MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT". You
> mentioned as version "4.0.835.1374", what description does the DLL have?
> I'm wondering if this is the original DLL from Windows XP or another
> (3rd party?) DLL? Do you happen to have Exchange or Groupwise installed?
> 
> Frank

The mapi32.dll is microsoft:
Description: Extended MAPI 1.0 for Window NT
Company: Microsoft Corporation
File Version: 4.0.835.1374

The system had Groupwise & Exchange installed on it (since removed) and
is valid.

<http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=mapi32.dll+%2B"4.0.835.1374"&btnG=Google+Search>

However, it should not matter; SM shouldn't replace the file in
system32. What I can do, if I find time later this weekend, is to
completely purge SM and then reinstall first 1.1.16 (then purge that)
and then 2.0a3 again. That way I can determine exactly which one is the
culprit. I'm pretty sure that it was the update from 1.1.15 to 1.1.16,
but I want to be positive before adding to the bug.


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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 05:50 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 04/10/2009 05:19 PM, Frank Wein wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
>>> On 04/10/2009 09:11 AM, Frank Wein wrote:
>>>> NoOp wrote:
>>>>> I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been
>>>>> running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone
>>>>> troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading
>>>>> from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup
>>>>> errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32
>>>>> directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 & 1.1.16
>>>>> required reboots.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error
>>>>> on startup:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Try deleting the registry key
>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Mozilla\Desktop\Mapi_backup_dll (if it
>>>> exists, that is :). 
>>> 
>>> No key; I even did a registry search.
>> [...]
>> 
>> Hrm, strange. As far as I see this, there are two places in the code
>> where mapi32.dll can be replaced with the SeaMonkey mozMapi32.dll:
>> 1) On install, but only if these two conditions are met:
>> 299 // If Mapi_backup_dll *and* the default var of
>> 300 // HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Clients\Mail is set, then install
>> 301 // mozMapi32.dll to the windows system dir as Mapi32.dll.
>> 2) When setting SeaMonkey MailNews as default mail client and the
>> Mapi32.dll file present is some old dll (as mentioned before) or another
>> strange version of the DLL. Here I wonder a bit: The Mapi32.dll I have
>> here on Windows XP has as version "1.0.2536.0" (5.1.2600.0 as product
>> version) and as description "Extended MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT". You
>> mentioned as version "4.0.835.1374", what description does the DLL have?
>> I'm wondering if this is the original DLL from Windows XP or another
>> (3rd party?) DLL? Do you happen to have Exchange or Groupwise installed?
>> 
>> Frank
> 
> The mapi32.dll is microsoft:
> Description: Extended MAPI 1.0 for Window NT
> Company: Microsoft Corporation
> File Version: 4.0.835.1374
> 
> The system had Groupwise & Exchange installed on it (since removed) and
> is valid.
> 
> <http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=mapi32.dll+%2B"4.0.835.1374"&btnG=Google+Search>
> 
> However, it should not matter; SM shouldn't replace the file in
> system32. What I can do, if I find time later this weekend, is to
> completely purge SM and then reinstall first 1.1.16 (then purge that)
> and then 2.0a3 again. That way I can determine exactly which one is the
> culprit. I'm pretty sure that it was the update from 1.1.15 to 1.1.16,
> but I want to be positive before adding to the bug.
> 
> 

OK Frank, here is what I've done (it's Friday night & I'm going sailing
this weekend so figured I'd better test now):

Note: all of the following with the WindowsSearch.exe program installed.

1. Used fixmapi.exe to replace the mozilla SM mapi32.dll in \system32\ -
that version is MS 1.0.2536.0.
2. Purge SM - all (Windows 'Add or Remove Programs) & deleted the
\mozilla\ folder in 'Documents and Settings'.
3. Rebooted & installed SM 1.1.16 (complete - no quicklaunch). I only
ran a cursory check - browser works & accepted making it my default
browser. Checked mapi32.dll - no change, it stayed the same.
4. Created a newsgroup account (news.mozilla.org) and accepted making SM
as the default mail application. Checked mapi32.dll - no change, it
stayed the same.
5. Purged SM 1.1.16 & \mozilla\ folder and rebooted.
6. Installed SM 2.0a3 (most recent as my copy was a 'pre' version).
7. Repeated 3 above w/2.0a3 - Standard + all Optional Components
(interesting license agreement): Checked mapi32.dll - no change, it
stayed the same.
8. Repeated 4 above: Checked mapi32.dll - no change, it stayed the same
(MS version).

If I get time later I can try with the 4.0.835.1374 mapi32.dll to see if
that makes any difference + try with my old \mozilla\ data to see if
there is something in that causing the issue.

Gary


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Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6

[NoOp]

Frank Wein wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 04/10/2009 05:19 PM, Frank Wein wrote:

[...]

Hrm, strange. As far as I see this, there are two places in the code
where mapi32.dll can be replaced with the SeaMonkey mozMapi32.dll:
1) On install, but only if these two conditions are met:
299 // If Mapi_backup_dll *and* the default var of
300 // HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Clients\Mail is set, then install
301 // mozMapi32.dll to the windows system dir as Mapi32.dll.
2) When setting SeaMonkey MailNews as default mail client and the
Mapi32.dll file present is some old dll (as mentioned before) or another
strange version of the DLL. Here I wonder a bit: The Mapi32.dll I have
here on Windows XP has as version "1.0.2536.0" (5.1.2600.0 as product
version) and as description "Extended MAPI 1.0 for Windows NT". You
mentioned as version "4.0.835.1374", what description does the DLL have?
I'm wondering if this is the original DLL from Windows XP or another
(3rd party?) DLL? Do you happen to have Exchange or Groupwise installed?

Frank

The mapi32.dll is microsoft:
Description: Extended MAPI 1.0 for Window NT
Company: Microsoft Corporation
File Version: 4.0.835.1374

The system had Groupwise&  Exchange installed on it (since removed) and
is valid.

[...]

Yes, that's probably the "problem" (well, actually it's a bug in the
code then). The code checks if the function "GetOutlookVersion" is
present in the mapi32.dll to see if the DLL is current enough (on old
systems like Win9x, there could be a DLL installed that did not support
Simple MAPI the way SeaMonkey uses it, so SeaMonkey had to replace it).
AFAIK this worked fine with the original mapi32.dll coming with IE 5.5,
6, 7 and various Outlook (Express) versions, but seems like this check
fails Groupwise as already noted in the bug. With SeaMonkey 2 this will
no longer be a problem as we never overwrite the mapi32.dll file in the
system folder. Thanks for testing.

Frank


Confirmed. I tested with the 4.0.835.1374 mapi32.dll file today - same 
way as outlined in my previous post with the 1.0.2536.0 mapi32.dll.


1.1.16 _does_ change it to the Mozilla version 0.8.0.0.
2.0a3 does not, it leaves it as 4.0.835.1374.

Gary


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Re: Quick Launch

[NoOp]

On 04/10/2009 10:15 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
> 
>> Please reply to the post, rather then composing a new message, 
> 
> apparently, for some its not that easy as they're 
> posting via the lists
> 

Then there obviously a problem with the list or responder:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15

He's using SM, he's subscribed to a SM list & if it's not possible to
keep within the thread, then there is something very wrong. Don't know
what as I use the newsgroups instead.


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Re: Is cacert not reliable?

[NoOp]

On 04/15/2009 07:45 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 4/15/2009 5:19 AM, P.N. wrote:
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed as a 
>> certificates issuer - any problems with it? Can I trust it, or shouldn't 
>> I for some reason?
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
> 
> CACert has not gone through an audit or review within the criteria given
> in Sections 7-10 of
> .  Thus, no one
> knows if it can be trusted.  I believe they are now in the process of
> going through that review.
> 
> I did a preliminary review of CACert's documentation a few years ago
> when they first requested inclusion in the NSS database of CA roots.  I
> found some problems that were not major but did indeed require
> correction.  That review never reached the point of looking at CACert's
> practices.  (A review or audit should parallel the ISO 9001 mantra:  Say
> what you do; do what you say; and be prepared to prove it.  Beyond ISO
> 9001, what you say and do must also meet certain standards.)
> 
> Note that only a certificate authority (CA) itself can request
> inclusion.  Users cannot make this request.  CACert made such a request
> in 2003; see .
> However, when it became obvious that they needed to do some work to
> comply with the Mozilla policy, they agreed in 2007 to withdraw the
> request.  They will submit a new request (a new bug report) when they
> are ready to undergo Mozilla's scrutiny.
> 

Adding to David's links:

http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/InclusionStatus

CAcert's primary focus and largest challenge at present is to meet the
fair but firm policy of Mozilla with a view to inclusion in their
products, including the popular Firefox browser (see Mozilla bug
215243). To that end an Audit is underway (you can refer to the
AuditToDo list for progress and our Certificate Policy Statement is
being refined at CPS (many thanks to Christian Barmala's work on this
topic and for everyone who has contributed to the shaping of these
policies).



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Re: Merge Mail Inbox & Sent ??

[NoOp]

On 04/18/2009 05:26 AM, Willard wrote:
> I receive and send mail on a desktop PC and on a laptop PC..
> Is there a way to merge the Inbox and Sent folders on both PCs , so that 
> both are current and complete??
> Can the same be done for Bookmarks??
> 
> 

In linux I use rsync/grsync for this[1]. There is a windows program that
does the same (I've not tried it):

http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp

Also see:
http://www.rsync.net/resources/howto/windows_rsync.html
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/


[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync

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[OT] crash reports - was Re: slow speed of newsreader

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On 04/22/2009 10:21 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:46:47 -0400, Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> Martin Feitag wrote:
> 
>>> Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-)
>>> (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here)
> 
>> Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week.  Still, its more then I 
>> ever saw with 1.1.x.
> 
> I do hope that you guys running 2.0a/b have turned on the crash reporter
> AND are filing crash bugs. Because if you aren't nobody is going to fix
> those bugs (unless it's in code shared with either Thunderbird or
> Firefox and someone there has already filed some crash bugs) because the
> developers aren't aware of those.
> 
> Also it's better to file a crash bug and have it marked as a duplicate
> than to suffer in silence in case nobody else has filed a bug.
> 
> Phil
> 

Explain please why it is necessary to *also* file a bug in addition to
the crash report. For example, my 2.0b1pre crashed about an hour ago.
The crash reporter files this:



Crash-stats (http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/) search shows all of these
for a libc-2.7.so crash in 2.0b1pre:



[SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre Crash Report [@ libc-2.7...@0x73463 ]]

Isn't there sufficient information in the crash reports (including raw
dumps) to work on the issues? The crash report shows the build, branch,
version, OS version, OS, reason (SIGSEGV in this case), signature, etc.
  Further, when submitting the crash report I've always ticked the box
to include my email address so that I can be contacted for additional
information/testing. However I yet to receive an email back regarding
any of the 32 crash reports that I've sent.

Note: it would also be *very* helpful if the 'submitted' file actually
contained the full url to the crash report... it gets to be a pain
pasting in http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ then going back
and pasting in '121cf58e-7098-4d62-8511-35d5c2090423' (mind you that you
need to leave off the preceeding 'bp-' in
Crash ID: bp-121cf58e-7098-4d62-8511-35d5c2090423
for the url to work.


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Re: Saving web sites

[NoOp]

On 04/23/2009 02:41 PM, n...@home wrote:
> Thanks for the advice.  Both methods worked, but I like the scrapbook 
> system a bit more because of the bookmarking.  I should have asked 
> earlier and saved myself a lot of time.

I like the idea of the Scrapbook add-on as well (haven't tried it
though). However, I've always found it handy to simply print the page(s)
to a pdf for archiving. On linux I use cups-pdf, but in Windows you can
generally find a free pdf printer program to do the same; I use
PDFCreator in WinXP and Win2KPro (http://www.pdfforge.org/), but you can
use cutePDF etc:



The advantages of printing to PDF is that you can: 1) archive for
reference, 2:) forward the PDF to a co-worker etc., via email.
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Re: [OT] crash reports - was Re: slow speed of newsreader

[NoOp]

On 04/23/2009 04:22 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 04/22/2009 10:21 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:46:47 -0400, Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>> Martin Feitag wrote:
>> 
>>>> Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-)
>>>> (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here)
>> 
>>> Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week.  Still, its more then I 
>>> ever saw with 1.1.x.
>> 
>> I do hope that you guys running 2.0a/b have turned on the crash reporter
>> AND are filing crash bugs. Because if you aren't nobody is going to fix
>> those bugs (unless it's in code shared with either Thunderbird or
>> Firefox and someone there has already filed some crash bugs) because the
>> developers aren't aware of those.
>> 
>> Also it's better to file a crash bug and have it marked as a duplicate
>> than to suffer in silence in case nobody else has filed a bug.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> 
> Explain please why it is necessary to *also* file a bug in addition to
> the crash report. For example, my 2.0b1pre crashed about an hour ago.
> The crash reporter files this:
> 
> <http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/121cf58e-7098-4d62-8511-35d5c2090423>
> 
> Crash-stats (http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/) search shows all of these
> for a libc-2.7.so crash in 2.0b1pre:
> 
> <http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/query/query?do_query=1&product=SeaMonkey&version=SeaMonkey%3A2.0b1pre&platform=linux&date=&range_value=4&range_unit=weeks&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&query=libc-2.7.so>
> 
> [SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre Crash Report [@ libc-2.7...@0x73463 ]]
> 
> Isn't there sufficient information in the crash reports (including raw
> dumps) to work on the issues? The crash report shows the build, branch,
> version, OS version, OS, reason (SIGSEGV in this case), signature, etc.
>   Further, when submitting the crash report I've always ticked the box
> to include my email address so that I can be contacted for additional
> information/testing. However I yet to receive an email back regarding
> any of the 32 crash reports that I've sent.
> 
> Note: it would also be *very* helpful if the 'submitted' file actually
> contained the full url to the crash report... it gets to be a pain
> pasting in http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/ then going back
> and pasting in '121cf58e-7098-4d62-8511-35d5c2090423' (mind you that you
> need to leave off the preceeding 'bp-' in
> Crash ID: bp-121cf58e-7098-4d62-8511-35d5c2090423
> for the url to work.
> 
> 

Or this one, that just now crashed while in this newsgroup:
<http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/96355a85-7f62-4bf3-9dbf-6ae462090423>



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Re: Does anyone care about this?

[NoOp]

On 04/23/2009 06:59 PM, Brian Mailman wrote:
> ad...@mmri.us wrote:
>> Brian Mailman wrote:
> 
>>> If you wish to make your messages difficult for others to read,
>>> they may oblige you and not read them.
> 
>> That is perfectly fine, and in order with me if they don't read my
>> posts. Everyone is entitled to their choice.
> 
> In cyberspace, no one can hear you scream.
> 
> B/

The trees can.

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Re: Seamonkey SSL Disabled Error

[NoOp]

On 04/24/2009 01:32 PM, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> texstar wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> texstar wrote:
 We are having an odd error using Seamonkey 1.1.16 on pclos. From time 
 to time when going to a secure site such as paypal or gmail, 
 Seamonkey will throw an error saying SSL has been disabled when in 
 fact it is enabled. One can close out and restart Seamonkey and go 
 back to the same site and everything is fine. Any ideas on what to 
 try would be greatly appreciated.

>>>
>>> when you say SSL is in fact enabled, how do you know?
>>>
>> Both enable ssl 3 and tls are checked and access to secure sites is 
>> available most of the time. Seamonkey just decides sometimes that ssl is 
>> not enabled.
> 
> OK, now that we're on the same page, try this: in the 
> address bar type in:
> 
> about:config
> 
> and in the filter box, type in 128 and now you should 
> get a whole bunch of:
> 
> security.ssl
> 
> type of messages.  Double click on each one and set 
> them to true.  Just the "security.ssl" ones, and 
> nothing else.
> 
> Now try again.  Did that work?
> 

I'm not sure I'd do _all_ of them:
security.ssl2.rc2_128
security.ssl2.rc4_128
are purposely set to false.


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Re: [Bug 413385] Implement Customizable Toolbars in SeaMonkey MailNews

[NoOp]

On 04/24/2009 09:42 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Just a note to our nightly testers. Customizable Toolbars in MailNews
> has landed. The show hide prefrences have been removed from the
> Preferences window. To add or remove buttons to the toolbar, right click
> on the mailnews toolbar and select "Customize..." then start dragging
> buttons around. You can drop them on any toolbar (in the toolbox)
> including the menubar.
> 
> If you see any weirdness including a totally missing toolbar then try
> shutting down SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre and deleting/renaming localstore.rdf in
> your profile.
> 
> Phil
> 

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b4pre)
Gecko/20090409 SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

Not working for me - unless I'm not clicking in the proper location.

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Re: [Bug 413385] Implement Customizable Toolbars in SeaMonkey MailNews

[NoOp]

On 04/24/2009 08:19 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 04/24/2009 09:42 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Just a note to our nightly testers. Customizable Toolbars in MailNews
>>> has landed. The show hide prefrences have been removed from the
>>> Preferences window. To add or remove buttons to the toolbar, right click
>>> on the mailnews toolbar and select "Customize..." then start dragging
>>> buttons around. You can drop them on any toolbar (in the toolbox)
>>> including the menubar.
>>>
>>> If you see any weirdness including a totally missing toolbar then try
>>> shutting down SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre and deleting/renaming localstore.rdf in
>>> your profile.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>  
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b4pre)
>> Gecko/20090409 SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
>>
>> Not working for me - unless I'm not clicking in the proper location.
>>
>>
> Bug 413385 - 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413385>(RESOLVED FIXED) 
> Implement Customizable Toolbars in SeaMonkey MailNews 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413385>
> Gary, I think you missed the date of Phil's message. It was working 
> correctly in last-night's build and again in tonight's edition..
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b5pre) Gecko/20090424 
> Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre ID:20090424000648
> on Mandriva-Linux-2008.1-PowerPack kernel-2.6.24.7-2 2008-10-30 i686 
> Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz GNU/Linux. Barry

My updates hadn't been working & I was stuck at 20090409. I've
reinstalled with the latest nightly & the toolbar is working for me now.
Sorry for the noise.

Gary

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Re: PDF handling within SeaMonkey

[NoOp]

On 04/25/2009 10:01 AM, George Carden wrote:
> I've always used the Adobe Acrobat Reader to read PDF files.  But 
> recently I installed the Foxit reader in order to take advantage of 
> their typing feature to fill out PDF forms.  I still kept the Adobe 
> reader as my default PDF reader.
> 
> However, since downloading Foxit, now whenever I get a PDF file in my 
> email as an attachment, and when I click links to PDF files within the 
> SeaMonkey browser, it is opening the documents in Foxit (within the 
> browser).  I want it to open them in Adobe, within the browser, like it 
> used to before I downloaded Foxit.
> 
> How can I get that set back?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> -George

This has nothing to do with SeaMonkey - unless you've specifically set
pdf files to open in SM via the Helper Applications.

I suggest that you open Windows Explorer, find a .pdf file, right click
the file, select 'Open With', select Adobe Reader & click the 'Always
use this program to open these files'. Then check in SM preferences:
Navigator|Helper Applications| and see what is set for pdf files.
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Re: PDF handling within SeaMonkey

[NoOp]

On 04/26/2009 02:18 PM, George Carden wrote:
> JD wrote:

>> 
>> Try this. In SeaMonkey, enter  about:plugins  like you would a web 
>> address. Scroll down and look at your installed plug-ins. Is there one 
>> installed for .pdf files? If there is, make a note of where it is located.
>> 
> 
> Aha!  Yes...There's a plug-in for Foxit, and one for Adobe:
> 
> Foxit Reader Plugin for Mozilla
> 
>  File name: npFoxitReaderPlugin.dll
>  Foxit Reader Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape
> 
> MIME Type Description SuffixesEnabled
> application/pdf   Acrobat Portable Document Formatpdf Yes
> 
> 

Find the plugin, rename it to x-npFoxitReaderPlugin.dll-x
Restart SM & test a PDF to see if it now defaults to Adobe.
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Re: best version

[NoOp]

On 04/30/2009 10:39 AM, Karl Anderson wrote:
> Is the current version of SeaMonkey compatable with older systems?
> 
> My P3-900 with win2k has Mozilla 1.7.3 installed along with plugins for 
> Flash, Shockwave, Adobe Reader, Realplayer, Quicktime and Flashblock, 
> Mozilla Calendar 200502-cal, . It's worked well for many years, but 
> I'm finding it won't render many newer webpages properly. Would the 
> current version of SeaMonkey work on this system? If not which version 
> would be best?

For best web page rendering I'd recommend the pre-released 2.0:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0a3

It will work just fine in Win2K & uses much of the same browser code
that FireFox 3.x uses. However, calendaring addons (Lightning) work is
still in progress, so you'll be without that for awhile yet.
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Re: best version

[NoOp]

On 05/01/2009 06:38 AM, Benoit Renard wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> For best web page rendering I'd recommend the pre-released 2.0
> 
> You shouldn't recommend an alpha version to an end user. All kinds of 
> funky things might (and do) occur.

Perhaps. But the link I provided does include a bright warning:

Warning! The SeaMonkey version for download on this page is a
testing-only preview of the next generation of our Internet suite.
Please test it carefully, it's not yet in a state where we can encourage
you to use it for daily browsing and mail operations.
For daily use, we strongly advise you to download the current stable
release instead.


And Karl stated:
> I'm finding it won't render many newer webpages properly. Would the 
> current version of SeaMonkey work on this system? If not which version 
> would be best?

For page rendering 2.0x _is_ the better choice IMO. I've also switched
all of my systems (with the exception of 2 test systems) over to 2.x, as
even with it's outstanding issues/bugs, I find it *considerably* better
overall than 1.1.1x. Again my opinion.  But I get your point & do
conceed that 1.1.16 is probably the safer choice for most new users...
temporarily.
  However, in this case Karl is running "Mozilla 1.7.3" - SM 2.0x will
install in parallel to his existing version and, therefore he should be
able to fall back to/switch to his current version without issue.
Further he's running an unsupported version to begin with:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/suite17.html

The Mozilla Suite is no longer supported and is affected by several
known vulnerabilities fixed in newer Mozilla-based products. All users
are urged to upgrade to a supported product such as Firefox or SeaMonkey.

Why bother with installing a lame duck from a non-supported version at
this stage?

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Re: Address Book editing

[NoOp]

On 05/05/2009 05:25 AM, stan wrote:
> I need to scan through my entire address book and delete addresses I no 
> longer need/want. Ideally, I would like a list online where I can scan 
> through and mark for delete those I don't want.  Anyone know a simple 
> way to do this?
> 
> Thanks.
> Stan
> 

AM-Deadlink


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Re: Unable to download 2.0a3

[NoOp]

On 05/05/2009 01:29 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:

>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> Thanks! I don't think I will use 2.0a3 right now. I can't stop it 
> asking for a master password. The place where you decide whether to 
> encrypt passwords etc. is missing so I can't turn it off.
> 

Edit|Preferences|Privacy & Security|Master Passwords|Change Password|
enter your existing password and leave the rest blank, click OK.
However, be aware that your stored passwords will no longer be encrypted.

The bug for this issue is:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414047
[master password prompt for every mail account on every SWF page load]
Please add to the bug report, or at the least add a vote; this issue is
one of the biggest PITA's of 2.x and really does need to be fixed before
final release.




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Re: Address Book editing

[NoOp]

On 05/05/2009 06:43 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/05/2009 05:25 AM, stan wrote:
>> I need to scan through my entire address book and delete addresses I no 
>> longer need/want. Ideally, I would like a list online where I can scan 
>> through and mark for delete those I don't want.  Anyone know a simple 
>> way to do this?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Stan
>> 
> 
> AM-Deadlink

Sorry... I was thinking 'Bookmarks' editing when I suggested AM-Deadlink.


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Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?

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On 05/08/2009 03:18 PM, horst39 wrote:
> Suddenly since a few days on some sites (which I have used hundreds of 
> times before without problems) I suddenly get following message:
> 
> Incorrect Response
> This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal 
> Security Manager (PSM). Download and install PSM and try again, or 
> contact your system administrator.
> The site responded to the network request in an unexpected way and the 
> browser cannot continue.
> 
> It seems that PSM is a program needed for Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.
> But I'm using SM 1.1.16 !
> The above message appears in following sites:
> http://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en (at the end of the page)
> https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/
> Does this happen to me only?
> What do you suggest me to do?
> Horst

Are you running ZoneAlarm or some other software firewall?

Possibly this is the problem:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.16/known-issues

Security
...
On Windows, some software firewalls may block SeaMonkey from properly
accessing the Internet. If SeaMonkey is not working properly, check that
your firewall settings allows SeaMonkey to connect to the net. If your
receive a warning from ZoneAlarm that SeaMonkey attempts to set itself
up as a local server, it is due to SeaMonkey communicating with Personal
Security Manager (PSM) which is required to access secure Web and mail
servers, and you should allow SeaMonkey access.

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Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?

[NoOp]

On 05/09/2009 01:51 AM, horst39 wrote:

>> 
>> I think it's a good bet that's it.  Horst, once you check your
>> firewall settings, you can test whether SM is using the PSM by going to
>> .
>> 
> Thank you all for your help.
> It is NOT a firewall but a profile issue.
> This means that this weekend will be spent for recreating a new profile 
> (I have many mail and news accounts and personalized extensions!)
> And weather report tells it will be a beautiful weekend!
> Sigh!
> Horst

Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in
about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking
screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently
changed a setting from default & changing it back may resolve the issue.

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Re: Playing Videos (was 'I think I'll try a reinstall'

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On 05/09/2009 03:43 PM, Nobody wrote:
> Martin Feitag wrote:
>> Rex's Mom schrieb:
>>> When last I posted, I was unable to play videos on SM 1.1.16, but here's
>>>an update.
>>>
>>> Went to:  http://www.uspoledance.com/ and was ABLE to view the video
>>>
>>> Went to: http://www.jacquielawson.com/ and, after signing in, was NOT
>>> able to view the video.
>>>
>>> This is becoming very frustrating as so many sites use flash to get
>>> one's attention even when it's not a video. So when I encounter the
>>> problem, I have to switch to Firefox.
>>>
>>> Any help would be much appreciated. I do not want to transfer to FF
>>> because I do not have the time for the learning curve.
>>>
>>> TIA
>> 
>> So is your problem flash-related or are the videos windows media format 
>> or anything like that?
>> regards
>> 
>> Martin
> 
> Both are Flash... and launch OK for me SM 1.1.16/WinXP Home SP3/Adobe 
> Flashplayer 10

And here w/Flash 10 SM 2.0b1pre.

Cards were cute... but one has to wonder which pole dance video contains
Rex's Mom :-)


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Re: best version

[NoOp]

On 05/14/2009 01:10 PM, Karl Anderson wrote:
> Benoit Renard wrote:
>> John Doue wrote:
>> 
>>> The best version is the one you have been using for a while to your 
>>> satisfaction.
>> 
>> 
>> Not if that version has publicly known exploits that have been patched 
>> in the next version.
>> 
>>> The wise man does not rush.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, this isn't really true for security updates, and often is 
>> followed to the point of exaggeration. See: Conficker infections.
> 
> Unfortunately, most of these answers don't address my underlying 
> question. Are the newer versions of Seamonkey backwards compatable with 
> my older version of Windows (Win2kpro)running on outdated hardware? 
> Also, do they hog resources the way that newer versions of windows do? 
> In other words, my old PIII-900 with 256 megs of RAM runs Win2K pretty 
> well, but I suspect it would bog down under XP, which is one reason I've 
> not upgraded. But at this point it is also tying me back to legacy 
> versions of some software and I'm wondering if Mozilla/Seamonkey falls 
> into that category.

Yes it did - I've *already* told you that SeaMonkey will work with Win2K:


It will work just fine in Win2K & uses much of the same browser code
that FireFox 3.x uses. However, calendaring addons (Lightning) work is
still in progress, so you'll be without that for awhile yet.


I run Win2K, both as dual-boot and in VirtualBox and run Both SeaMonkey
1.1.16 and 2.0b1pre. The dual-boot is an 800Mhz/384Mb laptop. I also
have 1.1.16 running on a 350Mhz/256Mb Win2K laptop.

I've also told you that SeaMonkey 1.1.16 or 2.0b1pre will run in
parallel with your existing outdated and unsupported version of Mozilla
1.7.3. So, load it up and give it a try.

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Re: Runtime error R6034

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On 05/14/2009 06:34 PM, Ken wrote:

> Jeff, I don't believe the message I quoted was 'screaming' at me what to 
> do.  And in fact not much of what you have gone on to quote from the Web 
> - thank you kindly for your research - means a lot to 
> not-greatly-technically-savvy me.  Note, btw, my earlier observation 
> that I don't have the problem if I use Internet Explorer, only when I 
> use my preferred browser, SM.  (That discrepancy puzzles me.)  Also, the 
> problem HAS now been sort-of solved - as I reported - by uninstalling my 
> VLC media player.  Now, while using SM, I can run the video clips in 
> question.  (Ideally, I would like to be able to run them with the VLC 
> media player loaded, but unfortunately I don't understand the stuff on 
> the Web about manifests and various dlls, and such.)

Perhaps you can find a solution here:



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Re: NBC.com's embedded videos doesn't play?

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On 05/21/2009 07:52 AM, BeeNeR wrote:

> 
> Doesn't work on SM 1.1.16 either.  Commercial plays perfectly but
> presentation just shows a rotation circle.

Works for me:
- Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
rv:1.9.1b5pre) Gecko/20090520 SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042523
Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.10

Does *not* work on:
- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090402
SeaMonkey/1.1.16
- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217
Firefox/2.0.0.20


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Re: NBC.com's embedded videos doesn't play?

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On 05/21/2009 01:09 AM, squaredancer wrote:

> 
> tells me I'm a foreigner and can't see US videos bloody censorship 
> is what I say!
> 
> reg

Call India for support :-)
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Re: NBC.com's embedded videos doesn't play?

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On 05/21/2009 09:58 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 5/21/2009 9:57 AM PT, NoOp typed:
> 
>> On 05/21/2009 07:52 AM, BeeNeR wrote:
>> 
>>> Doesn't work on SM 1.1.16 either.  Commercial plays perfectly but
>>> presentation just shows a rotation circle.
>> 
>> Works for me:
>> - Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
>> rv:1.9.1b5pre) Gecko/20090520 SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042523
>> Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.10
>> 
>> Does *not* work on:
>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090402
>> SeaMonkey/1.1.16
>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217
>> Firefox/2.0.0.20
> 
> So, it looks like it doesn't work with old Gecko v1.8.1 browsers? I 
> assume this is a NBC.com's issue?

Yep. This one (from Youtube) plays just fine in all:
<http://commercial.videosift.com/video/Cannabis-High-For-a-Night-Slow-For-a-Month>
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Re: NBC.com's embedded videos doesn't play?

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On 05/21/2009 12:33 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 5/21/2009 10:12 AM PT, NoOp typed:
> 
>>>>> Doesn't work on SM 1.1.16 either.  Commercial plays perfectly but
>>>>> presentation just shows a rotation circle.
>>>> Works for me:
>>>> - Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US;
>>>> rv:1.9.1b5pre) Gecko/20090520 SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
>>>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042523
>>>> Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.10
>>>>
>>>> Does *not* work on:
>>>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090402
>>>> SeaMonkey/1.1.16
>>>> - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217
>>>> Firefox/2.0.0.20
>>> So, it looks like it doesn't work with old Gecko v1.8.1 browsers? I 
>>> assume this is a NBC.com's issue?
>> 
>> Yep. This one (from Youtube) plays just fine in all:
>> <http://commercial.videosift.com/video/Cannabis-High-For-a-Night-Slow-For-a-Month>
> 
> Yes, all the other non-NBC.com and hulu.com work fine. It seems like 
> only videos from nbc.com have problems. :(

On the other hand, the SNL clips on nbc.com work in both:
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/calculator/866362/

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Re: "Customize" option for Mail/NG Filters?..

[NoOp]

On 05/22/2009 12:06 PM, Rufus wrote:
> ...Help says there is a "Customize" option to allow filters to use 
> headers not listed in the first drop down menu.
> 
> Where, and how?
> 

Which version of SeaMonkey?

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Re: Components

[NoOp]

On 05/25/2009 01:58 PM, Serge Popper wrote:
> I run Seamonkey for both mail and browsing.  On certain URL's the 
> original design of the page is not reproduced faithfully by Seamonkey. 
> One of those URL's is American Express.  When opening a monthly 
> statement the figures are shown under the wrong columns and the 
> statement becomes impossible to read.  American Express says they 
> support Firefox.
> I'd like to know what the two components in Seamonkey are.  Is the mail 
> side a version of Firefox?
> Is there anything I can do in Seamonkey so that the columns and figures 
> are presented as written?
> I actually have to use Internet Explorer to read my American Express 
> Statements.
> Thanks,
> Serge

Two points:

1. You need to advise: 1) which version of SeaMonkey, and 2) which OS
you are having the problem on. While some folks here like to think that
they are mind readers, such isn't necessarily the case.

2. Have you tried the page with FireFox, and if so: 1) which version, an
2) what were the results.

Congrats on still having an Amex in this economy...
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Re: Components

[NoOp]

On 05/26/2009 08:42 AM, Serge Popper wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> Two points:
>> 
>> 1. You need to advise: 1) which version of SeaMonkey, and 2) which OS
>> you are having the problem on. While some folks here like to think that
>> they are mind readers, such isn't necessarily the case.
>> 
>> 2. Have you tried the page with FireFox, and if so: 1) which version, an
>> 2) what were the results.
...
> 
> I do not have FireFox installed. Amex says they support Firefox.  That's 
> why I was wondering if the browser in Seamonkey is one they support?
> 
> I have Seamonkey 1.1.16 installed and run Windows XP, home.
> 
> Thanks for your help.

Might be worth installing Fx just to test. The problem is that nobody
can test a link for you as I understand it occurs when you are reading
your statement. If it is a Fx sniffing problem, you can install Prefbar:
http://prefbar.mozdev.org/
and change the User Agent to Firefox & see if that works.


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Re: SM 2

[NoOp]

On 05/27/2009 07:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> After the last beta, will there be release candidates before the final
>> version?
> 
> There will surely be candidate builds, actual release candidate releases 
> are something I don't like much, we mostly misused them in the past for 
> what betas are for, but we'll see what we'll be doing when we see in 
> what shape we are in approaching that.
> The major difference between earlier Mozilla Suite releases as well as 
> current Firefox releases and SeaMonkey/Thunderbird releases is that 
> Gecko and platform changes and regression fixes happen in the former but 
> not the latter, so we are in a different situation.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

Any progress/tests for Calendar w/SM 2.x?


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Re: SM 2

[NoOp]

On 05/27/2009 05:34 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/27/2009 07:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> After the last beta, will there be release candidates before the final
>>> version?
>> 
>> There will surely be candidate builds, actual release candidate releases 
>> are something I don't like much, we mostly misused them in the past for 
>> what betas are for, but we'll see what we'll be doing when we see in 
>> what shape we are in approaching that.
>> The major difference between earlier Mozilla Suite releases as well as 
>> current Firefox releases and SeaMonkey/Thunderbird releases is that 
>> Gecko and platform changes and regression fixes happen in the former but 
>> not the latter, so we are in a different situation.
>> 
>> Robert Kaiser
> 
> Any progress/tests for Calendar w/SM 2.x?
> 
> 

Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load
it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show.

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Re: SM 2

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On 05/28/2009 08:56 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> 
>> Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load
>> it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show.
> 
> Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the
> Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP.
> 
> Phil
> 

Thanks. BTW: I do get the lightning menu items in the menu dropdowns -
so that part is working :-)


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Re: SM2.0b1pre and helper addition/selection

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On 05/28/2009 12:11 PM, dominique wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Somebody could remind me how to add new helpers in Seamonkey?
> I have a recent example where I received a mail with attachments, and 
> these were not recognized by the helpers. I get the usual dialog box asking:
>   * Open with
>   * Save to disk
> and the last option (always perform this action when handling this type 
> of files) stays greyed out.
> 
> Is there a way to have this option available again?
> 
> Thanks !
> Dominique
> SM2.0b1pre (nightly) on Linux Ubuntu 9.04, using an IMAP account.

For the browser:

Similar to 1.1.16 only now it takes on the FireFox atributes:

Edit|Preferences|Browser|Helper Applications

In email attachements, there is no 'always perform this action' - at
least not that I am aware of.


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Re: SM 2

[NoOp]

On 05/28/2009 11:18 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 05/28/2009 08:56 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:46:56 -0700, NoOp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry... Any progress/tests for Lightning w/SM 2.x? I can actually load
>>>> it from the nightly, but can't seem to get anything to show.
>>>
>>> Once we land the tabmail (tabbed mail interface) patch getting the
>>> Lightning UI to show up should be just a SMOP.
>>
>> Thanks. BTW: I do get the lightning menu items in the menu dropdowns -
>> so that part is working :-)
> 
> And with the recent tabmail patch, even more is working. The goal of 
> having Lightning be installable and working in SeaMonkey 2 seems to be 
> reachable for sure with that tabbed mail work.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

I'll be happy to test on linux :-) However, just uninstalled lightning
as my cpu when honking up to 95% and an strace on the pid shows:

read(3, 0xb6b60058, 4096)   = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8,
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=13,
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=18,
events=POLLIN}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=24, events=POLLIN},
{fd=92, events=POLLIN}, {fd=36, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN},
{fd=90, events=POLLIN}, {fd=19, events=POLLIN}], 14, 0) = 1 ([{fd=19,
revents=POLLIN}])
read(19, "\372"..., 1)  = 1
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413108}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413161}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413217}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1243545361, 413260}, NULL) = 0
futex(0xb6bd1448, FUTEX_WAKE_OP_PRIVATE, 1, 1, 0xb6bd1444,
{FUTEX_OP_SET, 0, FUTEX_OP_CMP_GT, 1}) = 1

Which I _think_ may be lightning related. Not sure as I've never had
that occur before.
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Re: SM 2

[NoOp]

On 05/28/2009 02:30 PM, NoOp wrote:

> 
> I'll be happy to test on linux :-) However, just uninstalled lightning
> as my cpu when honking up to 95% and an strace on the pid shows:

> 
> Which I _think_ may be lightning related. Not sure as I've never had
> that occur before.

Sorry for the noise... doesn't appear to be lightning related at all. I
_think_ what happened is that I had been cleaning the download manager &
at the same time had a download popup still active (buried under my main
windows). Cleared all of that & reloaded. Download manager seems to have
issues though... clear the urls & instead of actually clearing them, it
just removes the visible url. But that's for another bug/issue.
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Re: Seamonkey2.0b1pre Can't see my mails/newsgroups/rss

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On 05/29/2009 07:24 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Gunther Nikl wrote:
>> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Is this build from latest-comm-central or latest-comm-1.9.1?
>>
>> In the second post the build identifier says "rv:1.9.1pre". Thus I
>> guess it is a comm-central build. A comm-1.9.1 build would show
>> "rv:1.9.1b5pre", wouldn't it?
> 
> No, the codebase is the same, the only difference is different 
> configurations and build machines. What currently is uploaded as 
> "comm-1.9.1" is our new experimental setup, while what lands in 
> "comm-central" directories is the old, official setup. I have explained 
> this in the proper group for development, which still is 
> mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey :)
> 
> Robert Kaiser

I am running the latest nightly (also on Ubuntu 9.04):

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090529 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

Obtained mine from Help|Check for Updates, which I presume gets it from
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-trunk/
seamonkey-2.0b1pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 29-May-2009 01:05.
about:buildconfig
Source
Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/e3cc670e1c64

Not sure it this makes a difference or not, but my system is 32bit,
Stéphane's is 64bit.
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Re: SM 2

[NoOp]

On 05/29/2009 05:29 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> Download manager seems to have
>> issues though... clear the urls&  instead of actually clearing them, it
>> just removes the visible url. But that's for another bug/issue.
> 
> Right. And one that might just have been resolved minutes ago by me 
> landing the replacement of the old download manager with the new one. :)
> 
> Robert Kaiser

Cool & thanks!

FYI for other users:
<http://home.kairo.at/blog/2009-05/new_download_manager_lands_in_seamonkey>
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Re: Archiving in SM2.0bpre (nightly)

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On 06/03/2009 01:22 AM, dominique wrote:
> Hello dev gurus,
> 
> I am curious about the archiving function available (or soon to be...) 
> in SM2.0bpre (nightlies)...
> I have several IMAP and POP accounts, and I tried to play with it, but 
> it seems still pretty much incomplete for the time being...
> I found this link for TB3: 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes#Message_Archiving_and_Folders
> 
> Is there somewhere a list of features/ default setting / use for this?
> Is there some missing UI (for the moment)
> Is it link to the tabbed mailnews interface to be landed soon ?
> 
> Thanks for some light on these questions
> 
> Dominique

Wow... I hadn't even noticed this feature until your post. I just tried
it on today's nightly on my pop accounts and it archived the msgs as
advertised. Would be nice to be able to do the same for an entire subfolder.

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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

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On 06/03/2009 02:24 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Lucas Levrel:
> 
>>Thanks for your concern. I tried your exact settings, to no avail. Could 
>>you also post your about:config results for browser.tabs.* ?
> 
> Sure.
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090603.png (12 KB)
> 
>>I've got SM 1.1.14 under Linux and SM 1.1.16 under Win98SE: the bad 
>>behavior shows up on both ones.
> 
> And it is bad for me on some tested SM1 on Linux. Win98SE fails also?
> Hm. There was an answer from arne about a working 1.1.14 on NT 6.0 - at
> least his header says so - but on a closer look he writes about opening
> links and not attachments. ;)
> 
> Perhaps it works only in SM2.
> 
> Hartmut

I compared SM 1.1.16 & 2.0 (both linux same machine same Tabbed Browsing
pref settings) and:

1.1.16: attachment (I used a .jpg) opens in existing/current tab
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090402
SeaMonkey/1.1.16
2.0: attachment opens properly in a new tab.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090601 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

So it appears to have been fix in 2.0.


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[SM 2.0] New news servers not showing up w/out restarting SM

[NoOp]

Anyone else notice that when you subscribe to a new news server that it
doesn't show up in the mail/news window unless you close and restart SM?

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090608 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

Test twice today, and on both occasions the new news server doesn't show
up without closing & restarting SM. Note: the server does indeed show up
in Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.
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Re: [SM 2.0] New news servers not showing up w/out restarting SM

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On 06/08/2009 06:45 PM, NoOp wrote:
> Anyone else notice that when you subscribe to a new news server that it
> doesn't show up in the mail/news window unless you close and restart SM?
> 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
> Gecko/20090608 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre
> 
> Test twice today, and on both occasions the new news server doesn't show
> up without closing & restarting SM. Note: the server does indeed show up
> in Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings.

Correction, just found out that if I close and restart the mail windows
(all that are open) the new news servers do show up.

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[OT - somewhat] mozilla.support.screenshots borked?

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Has the "moderator" gone walkabout? Posted a SM 2.0 related screenshot
there hours ago & it's yet to show up.

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Re: [OT - somewhat] mozilla.support.screenshots borked?

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On 06/09/2009 05:07 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 09.06.2009 00:28, NoOp wrote:
> 
>   --- Original Message ---
> 
>> Has the "moderator" gone walkabout? Posted a SM 2.0 related screenshot
>> there hours ago & it's yet to show up.
>> 
> 
> You've just experienced one of the many drawbacks of the way screenshots 
> are to be posted for public viewing. Your problem may have gone away 
> before the screenshot has been posted, who knows. Actually best to post 
> a link to ImageShack or PhotoBucket or your own site, etc.
> 

Yep. Done on imageshack:

<http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1703/screenshot606.png>

Concerns the tiny pause/stop buttons on the new 2.0 download manager
dialog popup if anyone is interested
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Re: [SM 2.0] New news servers not showing up w/out restarting SM

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On 06/16/2009 11:20 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> Am 09.06.2009 03:45 schrieb NoOp:
>> Anyone else notice that when you subscribe to a new news server that it
>> doesn't show up in the mail/news window unless you close and restart SM?
> 
> WFM with a current nightly, creating a test account using File > New > 
> Account... Or did you click a news:// URL? Please provide clear steps to 
> reproduce, ideally work with a fresh profile and optionally file a bug.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Jens
> 

Edit|Mail & Newsgroup Settings... added a new news server.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090615 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre


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Re: What most advanced Java compatible with Seamonkey?

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On 06/23/2009 06:40 PM, James wrote:
> Okay; I just installed Seamonkey 1.1.7 and then installed Adblock Plus.  
> I did not have to run Seamonkey as administrator in order to do that.
> 
> Next I went to the Java test page and found the Dancing Duke indicated 
> Java is working fine, so I guess I don't have to reinstall it [since I 
> just installed the latest].
> 
> James

Now that you have java working...

You might consider: 1) subscribing to the group via nntp rather than the
list as you continue to post new threads every time you reply, or 2)
ask/figure out how to use SeaMonkey to reply *only* to the thread rather
than posting a new reply [1].

To use nntp:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey

You might find this a better method anyway... you don't have to deal
with list emails.

[1] I can't advise on how to do this as I do not use the list to
communicate here.


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Re: What most advanced Java compatible with Seamonkey?

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On 06/24/2009 08:24 AM, James wrote:
> I don't know how to do what you're suggesting.  I signed up to the group 
> and requested a daily digest due to the large number of emails I 
> receive.  I have been manually adding the subject [as I did with this 
> message] in the belief/hope that that would place it in the right thread.
> 
> The page you reference has a ton of info.  I haven't read it all but if 
> there's specific parts I can read to make my messages fit better with 
> the format here I would appreciate a hint.
> 
> At present I don't even remember the link to the page where it's 
> possible to reply or post directly without replying to the list, as I'm 
> doing here.
> 
> This digest arrives as a single text document for some reason that I do 
> not understand or know how to adjust.  I receive many Yahoo groups and 
> somehow this one is listed in my Yahoo groups too, although I didn't 
> think Yahoo had anything to do with it.  There is ONE Yahoo group where 
> the entire digest comes through exactly like this one [a single text 
> document], but I have no clue as to why or how to fix it.  I'm not 
> literate with things like newsgroups.  All of the other groups have a 
> reply option at the bottom of each message which puts the reply in the 
> right thread [I think].
> 
> If someone will be kind enough to point me to the URL where I can reply 
> directly to individual messages I'll take a look at that.
> 
> Thanks,
> James

Simple: click on
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey

That will add this group to your news. You should then see:
'news.mozilla.org' underneath your email account, click on the right
triangle to expand (just as you would your email account to expand the
folders), you'll then see the mozilla.support.seamonkey folder, right
click that and click 'Open in New Mail Window'[1]. You now have access
to this newsgroup via your newsreader (nntp). You can then view & reply
to messages in the group. When you reply to a post, simply click
'Reply', do not select 'Reply All', compose your reply (please trim
posts when needed) and click 'Send'.

After you become used to reading/posting via the newsgroup, you can then
unsubscribe from the mailing list/archive if you wish.

[1] It's not necessary to 'Open in New Mail Window', but it simply makes
it easier to have one window for email and another for newgroups. If you
prefer, just click 'mozilla.support.seamonkey' and it will stay within
your original email window.

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Re: SM 1.1.16 crashes on OpenSUSE 11.1

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On 06/25/2009 01:55 AM, Andrew McLean wrote:
> I'm running OpenSUSE 11.1 64 bit on a system with an Intel Quad core cpu.
> 1. SeaMonkey browser 1.1.16 crashes often e.g. I go to www.google.co.uk 
> and enter "apod" and get the list OK. When I click on the APOD link it 
> starts displaying the page but immediately crashes.
> Any comments welcome- should I run a debug version and report the result 
> ? If so, how do I do that ?
> 
> 2. I then downloaded the installer for 1.1.17, but when I run the 
> 'seamonkey-installer' script, it says this:
> "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open 
> shared object file."
> The installed version of this file seems to be libstdc++.so.6
> The version no is 4.3.3.
> 
> What should I do to install this version of SeaMonkey ?
> 
> AM

Install libstdc++.so.5. You can have both 5 & 6 installed at the same time.

You might want to check:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.17/installation
for other issues/dependencies.


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Re: Can't forward emails with pictures

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On 05/21/2009 11:03 AM, Serge Popper wrote:
> I've just read a dozen emails on this topic and do not seem to be able 
> to find an answer.
> I run XP and Seamonkey.
> Up until a week or so ago, I was able to forward emails, inline, with 
> photos in them.  Now, I am only able to forward emails inline with text 
> in them.
> I need the inline function so that I can edit out all the extraneous 
> contents and mailing addresses before I forward the message.
> I am aware of no changes I might have made to cause the above.
> If I want to forward a message, inline, I now have to save each picture, 
> open it, copy it and then paste it to the email. This becomes very 
> tedious when there are lots of pictures.
> My "Send in HTML" is turned on.
> Can anyone tell me how I can restore the send inline function?
> Thanks,
> Serge

I've just noticed this on:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre)
Gecko/20090623 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre

I cannot forward w/attachments unless I select
Edit|Preferences|Composition|Forward messages|As Attachement

You're right... it's an issue as, like you, I'd prefer to edit the
original email (addresses, text, whatever) and forwarding this way does
not allow you to do this. I'll poke around in bugzilla and see if an
issue has already been filed.


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Re: Can't forward emails with pictures

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On 05/21/2009 11:03 AM, Serge Popper wrote:
> I've just read a dozen emails on this topic and do not seem to be able 
> to find an answer.
> I run XP and Seamonkey.
> Up until a week or so ago, I was able to forward emails, inline, with 
> photos in them.  Now, I am only able to forward emails inline with text 
> in them.
> I need the inline function so that I can edit out all the extraneous 
> contents and mailing addresses before I forward the message.
> I am aware of no changes I might have made to cause the above.
> If I want to forward a message, inline, I now have to save each picture, 
> open it, copy it and then paste it to the email. This becomes very 
> tedious when there are lots of pictures.
> My "Send in HTML" is turned on.
> Can anyone tell me how I can restore the send inline function?
> Thanks,
> Serge

Serge, the only way that I've found to do this is to right-click|Edit as
new|do your editing, and send in html format. Not an eloquent way to do
it (plus the added fact that you have to send in html), but it does work
for me on SM 2.0.


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Re: SM 1.1.16 crashes on OpenSUSE 11.1

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On 07/01/2009 10:13 AM, A Williams wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 06/25/2009 01:55 AM, Andrew McLean wrote:
>>> I'm running OpenSUSE 11.1 64 bit on a system with an Intel Quad core cpu.
>>> 1. SeaMonkey browser 1.1.16 crashes often e.g. I go to www.google.co.uk 
>>> and enter "apod" and get the list OK. When I click on the APOD link it 
>>> starts displaying the page but immediately crashes.
>>> Any comments welcome- should I run a debug version and report the result 
>>> ? If so, how do I do that ?
>>>
>>> 2. I then downloaded the installer for 1.1.17, but when I run the 
>>> 'seamonkey-installer' script, it says this:
>>> "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open 
>>> shared object file."
>>> The installed version of this file seems to be libstdc++.so.6
>>> The version no is 4.3.3.
>>>
>>> What should I do to install this version of SeaMonkey ?
>>>
>>> AM
>> 
>> Install libstdc++.so.5. You can have both 5 & 6 installed at the same time.
>> 
>> You might want to check:
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.17/installation
>> for other issues/dependencies.
>> 
>> 
> 
> I have that library installed (libstdc++33-3.3.3-7.10) but Seamonkey
> only works for me since I reverted to the previous Firefox and xulrunner
> packages.
> I'll check the other requirements.  Looks like they were not set up
> correctly in the update.  Opensuse 11.1 does not handle SM very well at
> all, stuff like java does not work out of the box - even in the 32bit
> version.

Don't know about opensuse, but debian/ubuntu I have:
$ apt-cache policy libstdc++5
libstdc++5:
  Installed: 1:3.3.6-17ubuntu1
  Candidate: 1:3.3.6-17ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 1:3.3.6-17ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

$ locate libstdc++.so.5
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7

Do you have a similar locate command in opensuse?

For opensuse, these might help:
<http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&q=opensuse+%2Blibstdc%2B%2B5&btnG=Google+Search>

Alternatively, you might try:
<http://packages.opensuse-community.org/index.jsp?distro=openSUSE_111&searchTerm=SeaMonkey>




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Re: Can't update SeaMonkey 2 to the latest nightly

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On 07/05/2009 04:36 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> dominique wrote:
>> it seems though that the symlinks are not fully in place, or broken
>> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-trunk/
>> shows old versions...
> 
> There seems to be a problem with the generation of updates, I just filed 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502444 to track that.
> 
> The normal nightly builds are there and are fine, the automated updates 
> are broken right now (worked before on the new config, so something must 
> have crept in with or after the switch).
> 
> Thanks for pointing us to that!
> 
> Robert Kaiser

This appears to have the latest:


So perhaps the symlink for latest-comm-central is broken?

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Re: Quality Assurance plans for the upcoming releases leading to Thunderbird 3.0 final

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On 07/06/2009 09:07 AM, Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:
> So I should have probably talked about this a bit earlier - but as dates 
> and plan changed quite a bit in the last month it's good that I did not.
> 
> The QA plan for the upcoming betas and RC is for now as follow :
> 
>   Litmus Full Functionnal testing (FFT) for thunderbird 3.0b3
> 
>   Litmus Basic  Functionnal testing for 3.0b4
>   Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for 3.0b4
> 
>   Litmus FFT for RCs
>   Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for Rcs
> 
> 
> Dates for all of these testing efforts will be announced here and on 
> qualiry.mozilla.org.
> 
> As you will see if you participate to the Litmus testing[1] effort that 
> we are now breaking down tests platforms per os and platform. This let's 
> us better see what has been tested and where.
> 
> For those of you who are interested in testing Thunderbird, litmus is a 
> really easy tool to learn. You need an account (that's 10 minutes of 
> your time tops), you'll need a copy of Thunderbird (which copy and 
> versions will be announced on these newsgroups/mailing lists, they will 
> be announced on http://quality.mozilla.org/events and on the 
> thunderbird-testers mailing list.) and then time to spend reading how to 
> test , and enter the results of your testing.
> 
> On top of these lengthy events we will organize at least one test days - 
> these will be announced on the thunderbird-testers[2] mailing list and 
> probably here too.
> 
> 
> [1] http://quality.mozilla.org/documents-home/test-docs/litmus-tutorial
> [2] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers
> 
> Ludovic

For those that do litmus testing (smoke tests), I very much recommend
doing it from a fresh test profile rather than the exisiting user
profile. Using an existing profile (both for Thunderbird and SeaMonkey)
that has been customized for user use w/add-ons and extensions can skew
and affect the results.


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Re: Reporting broken sites

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On 07/07/2009 06:41 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
> There's a site which keeps crashing Seamonkey 1.1.17 when I click on
> it, at least lately (it didn't used to happen).  The site doesn't
> hang when I use Firefox 3.0.11.  The site is:
> http://www.losangelesmovietimes.com/

Doesn't crash mine, but drives 1.1.17 (linux) into 100% cpu and I have
to kill SM 1.1.17. Works with SM 2.0b1pre.

On another machine (linux again), 1.1.17 just keeps doing a circular:
Transfering data from losangeles.mrmovietimes.com... & again drives the
cpu up to 100%.

Only add-on that I have installed in 1.1.17 is prefbar.
...
> 
> Is this just my browser?  Or is there a problem with SM?
I'd say both the site and the browser.
> 
> --Ken Rudolph
> 
> 

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Re: Testing Thunderbird 3.0b3...

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On 07/08/2009 06:31 PM, Daniel wrote:
> JR WG wrote:
>> Also sending separate Email to you, Ludovic...
>> 
>> RE:  Testing Thunderbird 3.0b3 starting Thursday July 9th 2009
>> 
>> Can you verify that we can test Thunderbird 3 without overwriting or losing 
>> our existing TBird 2 access or installation, in case we need to revert back 
>> to TBird 2 for some reason.
>> 
>> We should know that answer beforehand.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>>  
>> Joe
>> 
> 
> What's this doing in the SeaMonkey group??
> 
> Sure we're waiting on TB 3.0 to be finalized before SM 2.0 will be 
> outed, but really!!
> 
> Daniel

There is consisderable shared code between the two. Plus several SM 2.0
features/functions actually depend upon the TB code, so it's to
everyone's advantage to help testing both TB & SM 2. Note: I'd asked the
same previously some time ago :-)

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Re: Reporting broken sites

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On 07/08/2009 04:49 PM, Martin Feitag wrote:
> Ken Rudolph schrieb:

>> Even the thought of testing an "alpha" makes me shudder with angst. It
>> seems to me that the news-mail part of SM 1x is not nearly so deficient
>> and outdated as the browser portion. If it is Thunderbird 3 which is
>> holding up SM 2x then maybe SM 2.0 should be released with a lesser mail
>> client.
>>
>> I guess I'm especially despondent because I've been a fanatical
>> supporter of the "suite" browser concept since Netscape 0.8 and now I
>> feel that nothing sufficiently modern is out there that I'm comfortable
>> using. The SeaMonkey Project is in danger of becoming irrelevant if they
>> keep dithering and waiting for utter perfection.
>>
>> --Ken Rudolph
> 
> According to Robert Kaiser it wasn't planned and they were pretty 
> surprised that the TB team struggled that much / was lacking a proper 
> plan or whatever. They are kinda angry because of that and it sounded 
> like that there will be taken actions to prevent such thing happening again.
> regards
> 
> Martin
> 
> PS: As said for an alpha it's very stable, don't compare it too much 
> with other alphas you might have tested, as the codebase is pretty 
> mature. Of course it's not recommended to replace SM1 with SM2 yet in a 
> productivity environment but having SM2 parallely doesn't harm and keeps 
> up the hope/interest ;-)

I've found, for the most part, that the 2.0b1pre is, IMO, more stable
than 2.0a. With the exception of one or two instances, the 2.0b1pre has
been pretty solid & I use it on 4 production machines. I of course have
1.1.17 also installed as a backup, but so far the only time that I ever
fire up 1.1.x anymore is to test something.

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Re: want to send 2 original mails

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On 07/10/2009 12:09 PM, horst39 wrote:
> On my account I'm getting all emails twice.
> Now I want to send 2 of these double emails to my ISP in order to find 
> out the reason of this strange effect.
> Can please somebody explain me what procedure I should use in order to 
> send a couple of these emails complete with all headers?
> A simple forwarding allows me to send only one of these emails and not 
> the second one.
> Thank you
> Horst

View|Message Message Source for both emails.
Compose email to your ISP explaining the problem. Then go to the first &
use Ctrl-A to copy all of the text, paste into the ISP email as quoted
text (Edit|Paste as quotation). Do the same for the second email.

Send.

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Re: The Sunbird Calendar, will it be upgraded along with Seamonkey?

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On 07/10/2009 04:59 PM, Martin Feitag wrote:
> John Boyle schrieb:
>> To whom it may concern: It has occurred to me that nobody is mentioning
>> what will happen to the Sunbird calendar program! I am wondering if it
>> will be integrated into SeaMonkey 2, or kept as a standalone, and if it
>> is being upgraded, also? O:-)
> 
> Sunbird seems to be dead after 1.0 beta. I wanted to strengthen my 
> efforts to help keeping sunbird alive in august, but I guess it doesn't 
> look good without more helpers.
> Afaik the Seamonkey crew is working on getting Lightning to work in SM2.
> regards
> 
> Martin

And you can follow along here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460960
[(smtabmail) Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews]
Note: this is why it's helpful to assist in Thunderbird 3.x bugs as was
posted a few days ago. Getting Lightning working in SM 2.x depends upon
resolving this bug (per kairo).



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Re: want to send 2 original mails

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On 07/11/2009 02:31 AM, horst39 wrote:
...
> Good idea!
> although it didn't exactly work as you suggested.
> The first CTRL-U works perfectly, but when I select the second mail, a 
> new CTRL-U doesn't work!
> I must shut down SM (and kill it in Task Manager) and only now I can 
> reuse CTRL-U a second time!
> Does this happen on your PC too?
> Horst

No. I just did it with your msg Paul B. Gallagher's msg as well:

> Path: 
> border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:31:10 -0500
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:31:09 +0200
> From: horst39 
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) 
> Gecko/20090403 MultiZilla/1.8.3.4e SeaMonkey/1.1.16
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
> Subject: Re: want to send 2 original mails
> References:  
> 
> In-Reply-To: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Message-ID: 
> Lines: 29
> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 188.60.125.116
> X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
> X-Trace: 
> sv3-GZEjc5eVJjR/QQQ+yirHwG7awgZ3Ar+ZRePliXtmS1G+JagSVCdLZAwK9+4x9dCd1BhmhcgkI2kh5M9!53cjOWZTThsWrVBRt5dF4rpBdlObTKop1CN/O50Ya4pDko1ssrChOOoDgXmYc1+klhkCXyKKC4p6!VscQGN7R8/BmvQ==
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint 
> properly
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.39
> Bytes: 2645
> X-Original-Bytes: 2602
> Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:39994
> 
> On 10.07.2009 22:29,  Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> horst39 wrote:
>> 
>>> On my account I'm getting all emails twice.
>>> Now I want to send 2 of these double emails to my ISP in order to find 
>>> out the reason of this strange effect.
>>> Can please somebody explain me what procedure I should use in order to 
>>> send a couple of these emails complete with all headers?
>>> A simple forwarding allows me to send only one of these emails and not 
>>> the second one.
>> 
>> How about this?
>> 
>> Open a composition window and draft your remarks to the ISP, promising 
>> that the messages in question follow at the bottom of your message.
>> 
>> Now open one of the messages you want to forward, do CTRL-U (reveal 
>> source code), CTRL-A (select all), CTRL-C (copy), ALT-Tab (switch to the 
>> composition window), CTRL-V (paste). Repeat as necessary for the 
>> messages you want to forward.
>> 
> Good idea!
> although it didn't exactly work as you suggested.
> The first CTRL-U works perfectly, but when I select the second mail, a 
> new CTRL-U doesn't work!
> I must shut down SM (and kill it in Task Manager) and only now I can 
> reuse CTRL-U a second time!
> Does this happen on your PC too?
> Horst


> Path: 
> border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.mozilla.org!news.mozilla.org.POSTED!not-for-mail
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:05:56 -0500
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:05:56 -0400
> From: "Paul B. Gallagher" 
> Organization: pbg translations, inc.
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) 
> Gecko/20090403 SeaMonkey/1.1.16
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
> Subject: Re: want to send 2 original mails
> References:  
>  
> 
> In-Reply-To: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Message-ID: 
> Lines: 41
> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.142.101.62
> X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
> X-Trace: 
> sv3-lFSDxEwajdPSGd90Xi58CQuvVhfevhYvoso1a+74Ne0M2SfFHdPoM0a1wz0C58UjznOGPKX5x2IGBaq!Rj+F9/5LDUgR3Rkndczm47hWge+z7FZaXhXGXDx3U8hNJk+i5bK7uhrQc8bhl0yBvlTw8UTXyb4+!661KA7Ya1UxM
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: ab...@mozilla.org
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint 
> properly
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.39
> Bytes: 3093
> X-Original-Bytes: 3050
> Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com mozilla.support.seamonkey:39995
> 
> horst39 wrote:
> 
>> On 10.07.2009 22:29,  Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> horst39 wrote:
>>>
 On my account I'm getting all emails twice.
 Now I want to send 2 of these double emails to my ISP in order to 
 find out the reason of this strange effect.
 Can please somebody explain me what procedure I should use in order 
 to send a couple of these emails complete with all headers?
 A simple forwarding allows me to send only one of these emails and 
 not the second one.
>>>
>>> How about this?
>>>
>>> Open a composition window and draft your remarks to the ISP, promising

Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey

[NoOp]

On 07/12/2009 02:32 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Previously, when the Mozilla suite existed, or, when it was Netscape, a 
> user was able to add search engines, and, change the default search 
> engine.
> 
> Due to misconduct by google, I want to replace google as the default 
> search engine, with yahoo, in seamonkey, but I cannot find how to add a 
> search engine that is not included by seamonkey.
> 
> Opera already includes yahoo as a search engine that can be used for 
> searching.
> 
> I am not sure whether Firefox allows for earch engines to be added to 
> its included search engines.
> 
> Please advise how a search engine that is not included in the search 
> engines available through the search facility in seamonkey, can be 
> added, so that the default search engine can be changed from google to 
> yahoo.

Copy & paste the following into a text editor (notepad - gedit etc).
Save the file as 'yahoo.src' and place into your seamonkey/searchplugins
folder. Restart SeaMonkey & you now should be able to select Yahoo from
Edit|Preferences|Internet Search.

# Yahoo Search Plug-in for Mozilla
#
# Created by Robert Fernandes (e-mail address removed by casey1992),
Matthew A. McGuigan (e-mail address removed by casey1992), Rafael Ebron
(e-mail address removed by casey1992)
# Last Edited May 31, 2002
# Last updated August 11, 2004

http://www.yahoo.com/r/so";
   method="GET"
   action="http://search.yahoo.com/search";
>








http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search";
update="http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/plugins/yahoo.src";
updateIcon="http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/plugins/yahoo.gif";
updateCheckDays="3"
>


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Re: want to send 2 original mails

[NoOp]

On 07/12/2009 06:08 AM, horst39 wrote:
> On 12.07.2009 04:52,  NoOp wrote:
...
>> 
>> Sounds to me like you may have other issues w/SM and/or your system.
>> 
> I have no additional problems of any kind neither with SM nor with the OS!
> horst

OK!
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Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey

[NoOp]

On 07/12/2009 05:56 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 07/12/2009 02:32 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>> Previously, when the Mozilla suite existed, or, when it was Netscape, a 
>> user was able to add search engines, and, change the default search 
>> engine.
>> 
>> Due to misconduct by google, I want to replace google as the default 
>> search engine, with yahoo, in seamonkey, but I cannot find how to add a 
>> search engine that is not included by seamonkey.
>> 
>> Opera already includes yahoo as a search engine that can be used for 
>> searching.
>> 
>> I am not sure whether Firefox allows for earch engines to be added to 
>> its included search engines.
>> 
>> Please advise how a search engine that is not included in the search 
>> engines available through the search facility in seamonkey, can be 
>> added, so that the default search engine can be changed from google to 
>> yahoo.
> 
> Copy & paste the following into a text editor (notepad - gedit etc).
> Save the file as 'yahoo.src' and place into your seamonkey/searchplugins
> folder. Restart SeaMonkey & you now should be able to select Yahoo from
> Edit|Preferences|Internet Search.

Sorry, I didn't realise that you also use linux (I just looked at your
web page). An easy way to add multiple engines (including Yahoo) is to
download and older deb of FireFox, extract the
/usr/share/firefox/searchplugins out of the data.tar.gz and then copy
files from that searchplugins folder your your seamonkey/searchplugin
folder.

I used:
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.15~prepatch080614l-0ubuntu1_i386.deb 28-Mar-2009
03:06   7.6M
The /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins folder in that deb contains both
the .src files and and gif files for:

/searchplugins/amazondotcom.png
/searchplugins/answers.png
/searchplugins/creativecommons.png
/searchplugins/eBay.gif
/searchplugins/google.gif
/searchplugins/yahoo.gif
/searchplugins/amazondotcom.src
/searchplugins/answers.src
/searchplugins/creativecommons.src
/searchplugins/debsearch.src
/searchplugins/eBay.src
/searchplugins/google.src
/searchplugins/wikipedia.src
/searchplugins/yahoo.src
/searchplugins/debsearch.gif
/searchplugins/wikipedia.gif

Note: you can't use the searchplugins from FireFox 3.x as Fx now uses
.xml files instead of .src file.

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FireFox jit.content security issue + SeaMonkey 2.x

[NoOp]

Issue

A bug discovered last week in Firefox 3.5’s Just-in-time (JIT)
JavaScript compiler was disclosed publicly yesterday. It is a critical
vulnerability that can be used to execute malicious code.
 .
 .
 .


There is a javascript.options.jit.content setting in SeaMonkey 2.0 as
well (none in 1.1.x). I've asked in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey if this
affects SM 2.x as well... no response yet, so I've set
javascript.options.jit.content to False on my SM 2.0's just to be on the
safe side.

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Re: Some web pages not showing up right

[NoOp]

On 07/14/2009 07:55 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 7/14/2009 6:58 AM, J G wrote:
>> several times I have noticed that a web page will not display on
>> SeaMonkey1.1.17 but it is a good looking web page on Mozilla Firefox
>> and the virus magnet MicroBsoft IE. The following link is an example.
>> https://wp11.calhfa.ca.gov/ApprovedLenders/Default.aspx
>> 
>> How can one fix SeaMonkey to make this type of problem go away.
> 
> I strongly suspect that SeaMonkey is not broken and therefore requires
> no fix.  The page has 50 XHTML errors and 3 CSS errors.  Until those
> errors are corrected, you should suspect them to be the cause of your
> problem.

It displays nicely in SeaMonkey 2.0b1pre & FireFox 3.5, is totally
wacked in 1.1.17, a little flat but ok in Opera, and nicely in Epiphany
(Gnome Web Browser 2.26.1 which uses gecko-1.9 - see
http://projects.gnome.org/epiphany/). So I reckon that 1.1.17 is broken
& recall a bug to this effect but can't put my finger on it just now. I
think it had something to do with css style handling.
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Re: Some web pages not showing up right

[NoOp]

On 07/15/2009 09:32 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Paul B.
> Gallagher wrote:
>> Martin Feitag wrote:
>>
>>> I've never seen a major website which causes problems for Seamonkey
>>> 1.1.x _without_ having fatal errors.
>>
>> Well, I guess there's a philosophical question here -- are we attorneys or
>> are we programmers?
>>
>> The sticklers are right, of course, to say that these pages are chock-full
>> of errors. But end users don't care if you're right, they want to see the
>> content. So if they have to choose between a program that displays a
>> reasonable facsimile of the author's intent and one that displays hash,
>> they'll choose the program that shows the content.
>>
>> So would you rather be right, or would you rather be popular?
>>
>> In an ideal world, I'd like to see SeaMonkey show a disclaimer (the way it
>> does in the mail app when it blocks remote content) saying something along
>> the lines that "this page contains fatal errors in its coding, but we've
>> done the best we could to divine what the designer wanted, and we're showing
>> you that but we might've guessed wrong." ;-)
> 
> Yes, the problem is that the author of the page in question
> specifically declared his page as being XHTML 1.0 Transitional and
> then violated all the rules. He could have just as easily left off the
> doctype and left it up to the browser to interpret the page in quirks
> mode or however it saw fit. By displaying buggy pages correctly,
> incompetence and laziness is rewarded. In fact a proper XHTML page
> served with application/xhtml+xml mime type will not display at all if
> there is a single error in the markup.
> 
> I would rather be right than popular :)

While I agree that the issue is likely code errors on the site, the fact
still remains that Fx 3.5 & SeaMonkey 2.0x (both of which use the Gecko
1.9.1 rendering engine vs SM 1.1.1x which uses Gecko 1.8.1[1]) handle
the page with no issues.
  Something has been changed between the versions to
ignore/correct/quietly handle, etc., the page code problems. So, I guess
that Mozilla has decided to go the "incompetence and laziness is
rewarded" route in your opinion?

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko


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Re: Some web pages not showing up right

[NoOp]

On 07/15/2009 12:21 PM, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM, NoOp wrote:
>>  Something has been changed between the versions to
>> ignore/correct/quietly handle, etc., the page code problems. So, I guess
>> that Mozilla has decided to go the "incompetence and laziness is
>> rewarded" route in your opinion?
> 
> Warning: extreme fence-riding below :)
> 
> As a user, the browser that lets me do what I'm trying to do no matter
> how the page is composed is more valuable. As a web developer, the
> browser that refuses to do anything with invalid content is more
> valuable. In a perfect world, the latter would render the former
> unnecessary because nobody would make bad web pages. I don't know what
> the mission of the Seamonkey and Firefox projects are and what their
> official stance is when it comes to displaying broken web pages, but I
> suspect they lean toward the user's side of things. (Especially when
> the "competition" is MSIE, which is the notorious king of allowing
> anyone to do any crazy thing on a web page and still render it in a
> way that looks normal)
> 
> I think the increasing ability of Firefox to display malformed web
> pages probably contributes to its usefulness by users, but could also
> lead to incompetence and laziness by web developers, just as MSIE has
> done and continues to do. Of course some of the theoretical web
> developers that I accuse of being lazy or incompetent might say that
> not having to "worry" about writing valid HTML contributes to their
> efficiency and their paycheck. :)
> 
> To get back to the OP's problem, whether this particular page
> rendering weirdly is the fault of a Seamonkey bug or the web page I
> have no idea, but I don't think the page can be ruled out as a suspect
> until its XHTML is fixed. I don't think I've ever seen a page with
> valid HTML that rendered so badly in Seamonkey (but of course that
> doesn't mean it's not possible).

Can't argue with any of that... but it sure is nice (from a user
perspective) to be able to render web pages in SM 2.0x in the same
manner as Fx 3.5 :-)


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Re: Some web pages not showing up right

[NoOp]

On 07/16/2009 05:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 7/16/2009 2:34 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Paul B. Gallagher
...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I would rather be right than popular :)
>> 
>> Be careful what you wish for. ;-)
>> 
> 
> The original post in this thread cited a Web page for a California state
> agency.  California law requires state Web pages be accessible to the
> handicapped.  In California, counties are considered agents of the state
> (unlike cities, which are governments distinct from the state).  Thus,
> the law might also apply to counties.   A page that can be viewed only
> with IE might violate that law as it is unlikely it can be rendered
> properly by an audio browser.

The page can be viewed with multiple browsers (as I've previously
mentioned). Further it can also be easily viewed even with SM 1.1.17 if
you use View|Use Style|None. There has been no mention of an 'audio
browser' in reference to the site or the subject: "Some web pages not
showing up right", so I'd recommend trying the site using an "audio
browser" to test it for accessability issues & then bring that up to the
State of California, and a *new thread* if you wish. In that pursuit,
this might be of interest/help:
http://www.reportingtransparency.ca.gov/accessibility.html

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Re: Rendering problem in Firefox v2.0.0.20 and SeaMonkey v1.1.17.

[NoOp]

On 07/18/2009 01:01 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/18/2009 12:42 PM PT, Benoit Renard typed:
> 
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Ant wrote:
 Since the problem still exists, is there a way to tell SeaMonkey v1 and
 Firefox v2 to not use JavaScript/JS on these Web sites?
>>>
>>> You could use the noscript extension. noscript.net
>> 
>> Bad suggestion. NoScript disables JavaScript globally and works with a 
>> whitelist. If one wants to only disable JavaScript for a couple sites 
>> (s)he should use YesScript.
> 
> Ah thanks for the warning. I thought it could white and black list for 
> specific sites/servers. :( Unfortunately, YesScript doesn't do SeaMonkey 
> v1. :(

http://prefbar.mozdev.org/
You can disable javascript with a single click before going to the site.
Works in 1.1.x and 2.0x
It's the first, and one of only a few, that I add as soon as installing
SeaMonkey or FireFox.


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Re: Rendering problem in Firefox v2.0.0.20 and SeaMonkey v1.1.17.

[NoOp]

On 07/18/2009 03:38 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/18/2009 2:23 PM PT, NoOp typed:
> 
>> http://prefbar.mozdev.org/
>> You can disable javascript with a single click before going to the site.
>> Works in 1.1.x and 2.0x
>> It's the first, and one of only a few, that I add as soon as installing
>> SeaMonkey or FireFox.
> 
> Yeah, I am using that. Usually, I am too late to find out the site is 
> hogging my Web browser so I try hit JavaScript/JS button and reload/load 
> the Web page.
> 
> I hope we don't have to wait too long for SeaMonkey v2 since it is in 
> alpha now. :(

Why wait? SM 1.1.x and 2.0x run in parallel just fine. And from Kairo today:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I ran into strange problems with the Mac builds of SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 
> (a step in the process that works flawlessly everywhere else hangs with 
> very strange errors), but that shouldn't stop us from starting tests on 
> the other two platforms that have builds available now.
> 
> So, please help us testing the available Windows installers and Linux 
> packages, both available in 17 languages including US English!
> Windows: 
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0b1-candidates/build1/win32/
> Linux: 
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0b1-candidates/build1/linux-i686/
> 
> I hope to sort out the Mac problems ASAP, we'll have disk images when 
> those are solved and will get updates ready on the testing channels once 
> all platforms have builds ready.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

Both installed and are working just find on both linux (see my headers)
and WinXPPro (SP3). And prefbar works find in both.

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Re: Master Password SM2

[NoOp]

On 07/25/2009 01:05 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> Martin Feitag wrote:
>> Gerald Ross schrieb:
>>>  Installed the beta version. Do I actually HAVE to have a master
>>>  password? I never did in previous versions. Unable to bypass the window
>>>  to make a master Password. Also unable to invent a password that I can
>>>  really remember (oldtimer's disease) and that it will accept.
>>
>> I guess I experienced the same when I migrated a Seamonkey 1.1.x profile
>> to SM2 after installing SM2.0b1. It seems like SM2 creates a key3.db
>> file in the profile-directory which is useless. After renaming/deleting
>> that file everything was fine and even the imported passwords were
>> accessible.
>> Hope that helps
>>
>> Martin
> Wish I had known that earlier. I actually did a master password reset, 
> then re-entered all my passwords one at a time. Only had about 15-20 
> that I still use so not a huge operation. Thanks.
> 

For others; you don't have to do either of the above.

1. If you have a Master Password and wish to get rid of it so that you
won't get the multiple prompts (warning, your SM passwords will no
longer be encrypted):
Edit|Preferences|Privacy & Security|Master Passwords|Change Password|
Current password: 
New password: 
New password (again): 
OK
*Do not" use 'Reset Master Password' (read the warning).

2. If you never had a Master Password in your 1.1.x version and you are
now being prompted for one with SM2 after it's imported your 1.1.x
profile, you shouldn't. Please post with details on what you are seeing.
Again, *Do not" use 'Reset Master Password' (read the warning).

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Re: Master Password SM2

[NoOp]

On 07/25/2009 07:06 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> 2. If you never had a Master Password in your 1.1.x version and you are
>> now being prompted for one with SM2 after it's imported your 1.1.x
>> profile, you shouldn't. Please post with details on what you are seeing.
>> Again, *Do not" use 'Reset Master Password' (read the warning).
>>
> OK  I never ever had a master password in SM 1.1.x or any other. When 
> I installed SM2 beta it imported the profile from 1.1.x. On attempting 
> to check mail it asked for my user name and password. After this was 
> done it popped up a window asking me to enter my Master Password. I 
> tried to leave blank and click OK but it was not OK and the window 
> popped back up. After several tries like this, I tried just clicking 
> the x on the popup. Back to square one. If it thought I had a current 
> Master Password and not a blank one, I figured getting a new one would 
> require the unknown old one, so I did not try this.
> 

OK, so I'll repeat with some added verbiage:
2. If you never had a Master Password in your 1.1.x version and you are
now being prompted for one with SM2 after it's imported your 1.1.x
profile, you shouldn't. Please post with details on what you are seeing;
including details on: 1) the 1.1.x version (Help|About SeaMonkey),
operating system, and 2.x details.
Again, *Do not" use 'Reset Master Password' (read the warning).

I just tested with a linux (Ubuntu 9.04) SM1.1.12 (yes I know it's old
but wanted to test from a very old version... results were the same
using 1.1.17) to SM2.0b1. The 1.1.12 has *no* master password set:
Bring up SM2.0b1 clean with no previous .mozilla/seamonkey folder
- Import Settings and Data
  - Import all items from:
   o SeaMonkey 1.x,...
Next
- Home Page Selection
  o Import...
Next
... SM is working on the import
Finished and SM2.0b1 starts up with no master password prompt(s), emails
are all there, bookmarks are all there, no issues.

Upgraded the 1.1.12 (hated to see it go as it was my only remaining test
verson of that old build) to 1.1.17 & repeated the above. No issues.

So unless it is an OS version build issue I don't know what the cause
may have been.




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Re: Master Password SM2

[NoOp]

On 07/26/2009 03:57 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:
> NoOp schrieb:
>> On 07/25/2009 01:05 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
>>> Martin Feitag wrote:
>>>> Gerald Ross schrieb:
>>>>>   Installed the beta version. Do I actually HAVE to have a master
>>>>>   password? I never did in previous versions. Unable to bypass the window
>>>>>   to make a master Password. Also unable to invent a password that I can
>>>>>   really remember (oldtimer's disease) and that it will accept.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I experienced the same when I migrated a Seamonkey 1.1.x profile
>>>> to SM2 after installing SM2.0b1. It seems like SM2 creates a key3.db
>>>> file in the profile-directory which is useless. After renaming/deleting
>>>> that file everything was fine and even the imported passwords were
>>>> accessible.
>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>> Wish I had known that earlier. I actually did a master password reset,
>>> then re-entered all my passwords one at a time. Only had about 15-20
>>> that I still use so not a huge operation. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> For others; you don't have to do either of the above.
> 
> I'm sorry but for now this is wrong. In fact when this problem comes up 
> for people who had not used a master-password in SM1, they /do/ need to 
...
> 
> I didn't have a Master-Password either.
> I started SM2 after migrating for the first time and it asked for a 
> master-password right away (I guess because it tries to check for mail 
> already in SM2 without having to open the mail-window, by default)
> So migrating from SM1.1.17 to SM2.0b1 caused a master password prompt 
> right from the start for me, before doing anything else.
> regards

See my reply to Gerald Ross.
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Re: Master Password SM2

[NoOp]

On 07/27/2009 05:46 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:
...
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506638
> 

Thanks. I am able to reproduce on Win2KPro (can't on linux) and have
added to the bug report.
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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

[NoOp]

On 07/27/2009 03:03 PM, Samuel S wrote:
> Hello all, after installing SM 2.0A Beta, it did not load my other 
> profiles. How do I get them loaded in this version, if at all??

It's important that you tell us what OS you are running, and what
version of SM you also have installed (1.1.x).

This might help:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

> 
> Yes, I did not back up the profile before installing the newer version 
> which came to me after the final click... dumb, very dumb...

2.0 does not overwrite your previous profile. Instead it creates a new
folder. Assuming you use windows (from your headers):
C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
Your old profile should still be intact at:
C:\Documents and Settings\gg\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt

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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

[NoOp]

On 07/27/2009 03:43 PM, NoOp wrote:
> C:\Documents and Settings\gg\Application
> Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt

Sorry, should be:
C:\Documents and Settings\\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt

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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

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On 07/27/2009 03:58 PM, Samuel S wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 07/27/2009 03:03 PM, Samuel S wrote:
>>> Hello all, after installing SM 2.0A Beta, it did not load my other
>>> profiles. How do I get them loaded in this version, if at all??
>>
>> It's important that you tell us what OS you are running, and what
>> version of SM you also have installed (1.1.x).
>>
>> This might help:
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I did not back up the profile before installing the newer version
>>> which came to me after the final click... dumb, very dumb...
>>
>> 2.0 does not overwrite your previous profile. Instead it creates a new
>> folder. Assuming you use windows (from your headers):
>> C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey
>> Your old profile should still be intact at:
>> C:\Documents and Settings\gg\Application
>> Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\.slt
>>
> 
> NoOP,
> 
> Yes, sorry about not providing that info.. I Am using WinXP Pro, and 
> replaced SM 1.1.14 with 2.0A1 beta.

I would suggest: 1) upgrading 1.1.14 to 1.1.17 (*make a backup of your
C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Mozilla\ first*),
2) uninstall 2.0a1 (it's from Sept 2008), and install 2.0b1 instead
(http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1).

But it looks like I'd be wrong (sorry I'm more familiar with linux
except for testing w/Windows), as it appears that 2.0ax overwrote your
1.1.14 according to:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall

Note:
Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2 will overwrite your existing
installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your extensions
and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.


This is why I *always* install a test/alpha/beta/et al to a separate
location & don't know why 2.0 doesn't do this as default as well. I
though that previously it did.

So, check first to see if you still have any .slt files on
your system in C:\Documents and Settings\\Application
Data\Mozilla\ & report back.
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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

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On 07/27/2009 06:33 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Samuel S wrote:
>> When installing 2.0A1 beta I was asked which profile to transfer, I
>> tried to get them both and could not, so I chose my main profile to
>> install and not the others.
>>
>> Thus, my question is still, how can I install the others without having
>> to re-invent the profiles etc.. it is possible that I have lost the
>> e-mails, book marks etc. associated with those profiles as well.
> 
> For a short description, create the other profile(s) with the profile 
> manager in SeaMonkey 2.x and then call
> seamonkey.exe -P  -migration
> and select the correct profile for importing any other profile. (If you 
> don't understand this, I'm sure someone's around here who can describe 
> it in more detail - do we have a KB entry for it?)
> 
> There is no functionality for automatically importing more than one 
> profile, but you can manually trigger it for the others.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

Perhaps the one that I referenced?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: Seamonkey launches on it's own

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On 07/28/2009 02:29 PM, Randy Daum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have spent several days now trying to solve the problem with the 
> browser launching on it's own.  I have scanned for viruses, spy ware, 
> and everything that could potentially cause this to happen.  I have read 
> all of the possible problems and repairs online.  No one is reporting 
> this, but I have it happening!  If there is not a browser open, 
> Seamonkey opens one!  It just sits there open. Please let me know if 
> anyone has reported this, and how to stop it from happening as there is 
> nothing external to the browser that is causing this!
> 
> Thank you,
> Randy
> 
> 

This may be related given that I see you are using Windows and SM 2.0a3
(which uses much of the Thunderbird code as well):

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Stop_Thunderbird_from_starting_automatically
http://kb.mozillazine.org/MAPI_Support

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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

[NoOp]

On 07/28/2009 03:19 PM, MN wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> But it looks like I'd be wrong (sorry I'm more familiar with linux
>> except for testing w/Windows), as it appears that 2.0ax overwrote your
>> 1.1.14 according to:
>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall
>> 
>> Note:
>> Please note that installing SeaMonkey 2 will overwrite your existing
>> installation of SeaMonkey. You won't lose any of your bookmarks,
>> browsing history or mail and news messages, but some of your extensions
>> and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.
>> 
>> 
>> This is why I *always* install a test/alpha/beta/et al to a separate
>> location & don't know why 2.0 doesn't do this as default as well. I
>> though that previously it did.
>> 
>> So, check first to see if you still have any .slt files on
>> your system in C:\Documents and Settings\\Application
>> Data\Mozilla\ & report back.
> 
> I believe it means that it will over write any other installation of 
> Seamonkey 2.
> 
> I installed 2.0b1 and it didn't harm my 1.1.17 install at all.


Thanks for the confirmation.
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Re: SM 2.0A Beta Install Question...

[NoOp]

On 07/30/2009 02:29 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:
> Gerd Klaus Hafenbrack schrieb:
>> Martin Feitag wrote:
>>> Gerd Klaus Hafenbrack schrieb:
 SamuelS wrote:
> Gerd Klaus Hafenbrack wrote:
>> Samuel S wrote:
>>> Hello all, after installing SM 2.0A Beta, ...
>> What is "SM 2.0*A* Beta"?
>> I only know "SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1".
> Gerd - it is up to 3 now...
 With or without the "A"?
 I can find neither a SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 3 nor a SeaMonkey 2.0*A* Beta 3.
>>>
>>> Seamonkey 2.0 Beta 1 is the current one.
>> 
>> Hallo Martin,
>> 
>> so what is up to 3 now?
> 
> I don't know, Samuel said that.
> Maybe hewas mixing it up with Thunderbird beta versions or whatever...
> regards
> 
> Martin

Perhaps he was referring to 2.0a; it was upto 3 (2.0a3-candidates) at
23-Feb-2009.

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Re: SM 2.0a3 Player Challenges...

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On 07/29/2009 05:40 PM, Samuel S wrote:
...
> Martin,
> 
> Thank you for the response... I find that my report was not clear, it is 
> the "listen live online" is the challenge to access, not "Listen to an 
> archived show"
>

You are trying during the times listed correct?
Duke and the Doctor are live on the air,
Monday-Friday 9:00-11:00am EST
Just checking to be sure...
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