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Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for
some 32 years. My denominational background has nothing to do
er. - Original Message - From
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophetsmyth ("For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.") On
If you agree with Perry, then why the question?
-- Original message -- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without the resurrection, all that Christ said and did is of no consequence.DAVEH: Did I not say the very same thing in previous posts, Pastor? If you failed to note that I
spel would have been meaningless. Preaching would have been in vain...faith would have been in vain.From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Date: Mon, 2
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Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ for some 32 years. My denominational background has nothing to do with my theology at this late date. Secindly, Aimee Semple McP
You give these words as a defense:couldn't
there still be a need for continued revelation to clarify the parts of
the Bible that are being misinterpreted?Revelation that "clarifies"parts of the
Bible that are being misinterpreted
isjust what you said, unless, of course, you believe that
"..I have come down from heaven..
thx
Why would you insist on using the term in a differing way?
DAVEH: What makes you think I'm insisting, John? I just thought it
was an interesting
perspective.
Catholics are Christians.
DAVEH: Do you view LDS folks the same way?
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suggests the term Protestant can
I know some to be followers of Christ , who know next to nothing about Mormonism. With that in mind, my answer is yes. I do not think the Mormon Church is a Christian institution, however because it claims to be what it is not -- the restored chruch of the biblcial message. And, if you
eding. Why truncate the gospel?- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: January 02, 2006 10:01 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Perry wrote: The gospel didn't even have POWER until he
I said that McPherson did not start her church as an objection to the RCC. That's my story and I'm sticking to it your parsing of words aside.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] DaveH wrote: If I remember correctly, you
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David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word protestant? Do
you understand that I do not like that characterization? Do you
understand that it is gross sectarianism
...members of the body of Christ. Christians. PerryFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +David, do you unders
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-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] John wrote: When you read this word, you see "office" and argue from that perspective. When I see the word "apostle." I see
anything.
Perry
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Unfortunately, I do agree. Now that I think of it, you are right in
your
.
Christians.
Perry
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +
David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word protestant? Do
you understand
of
Christ.
Christians.
Perry
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:50:33 +
David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word protestant? Do
you understand
This one looks promising.
http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/restoring/
Perry
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rg, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:54:08 + Unfortunately, I do agree. Now that I think of it, you are right in your statement of the use of the word "gentile."do you know of any websites , by Mormo
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rg, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:54:08 + Unfortunately, I do agree. Now that I think of it, you are right in your statement of the use of the word "
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From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*The operative point in our discussion is not that Christians would or
would not welcome new revelation...*
DAVEH: To me, it is a very pertinent point. You made the claim, and from
my experience it is not a claim I've heard any Christians previously make.
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:44:40 -0800
http://answers.org/theology/add_to_scripture.html
*DAVEH: Is the guy who wrote this serious? And...do you
Yes you are. That denomination did not come from the Portestant response to RCC theology.
I am not a protestant, in any event. One of our daughters is RCC and full of faith. My degree came from a Catholic University and I have a deeply felt consideation for the Catholic historian. You should
The most current posting form jd
-- Original message -- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not what I said at all. I spoke of
additional scripture. No need for more if it was right to start with. DAVEH: You are losing me, JD.are you now saying the heavens are open to
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The most current posting form
jd
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Not what I said at all.
I spoke of
additional scripture. No need for
more if it was right
The operative point is whether He HAS allowed new revelation
DAVEH: Nonsense, Perry. I have no interest in discussing that. I
already know what your answer is to the above point, and why.
AndI know what my answer is to the same questionso, what is
there to discuss about that
therefore, it's
exclusively eternallyentirely rootedsolely inJCs
extantword/s
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the entire NT was written subsequent
to[JCs] utterance
So, you are re-establishing the
correct interpretation of the Bible?
DAVEH: No, that is not what I said, or impliedbut now that you
have mentioned it, I do believe the restoration does have that
effect. I can see where post Biblical revelations have made
interpreting the Bible in some
myth
(impossible--interpretation of 'pB rev'produces pB commentary, not pB
truth)
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:55:42 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
post Biblical revelations
have made interpreting the
Bible..easier.
Yes you are. That denomination did not come from the Portestant
response to RCC theology.
DAVEH: OKhelp me out, Bishop. I must be missing something.
WIKI..
Originally, "protestant" meant "to be a witness for something"
rather than "to be against something", as the current popular
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:34:43 -0800
Dave,
Adding to the word is very dangerous business. If one is to believe
Jude 3, and Hebrews 1-2, t
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*The gospel didn't even have POWER until he was rose from the dead. */
DAVEH: Wow! I'd never heard that before, Perry. Is that something you
just made up, or is that commonly believed by many Christians?
Dave, I take it you do not believe that statement,
/*Is it that you know Paul preached something that is not in the Bible? */
DAVEH: Yes, I do think so.
Dave, what did Paul preach that is not in the Bible? I will need Biblical
references, as in book, chapter, and verse of course. :-)
Perry
--
Let your speech be always with
conviction.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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See comments below.
-- Original
e -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My recent comments in Green. - Original Message - From: knpraise@
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Don't get too excited, DH. Miller is just having another one of his "wherefore art thou" moments. He actually believes in the very same scriptures the rest of do. He just wants to be differenct from me.
Where youseethe myopic, I see the the ability of God to get things done and the power to
It is perhaps perplexing to them why you would so adamantly argue that the
Scriptures have been closed.
DAVEH: Yes DavidM, that is correct.Such does perplex us. I'm
suspect there may be other reasons as well, but it almost seems that
the argument for closure is just a knee jerk
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*It is perhaps perplexing to them why you would so adamantly argue that the
Scriptures have been closed.*
DAVEH
He actually believes in the very same scriptures the rest of do.
DAVEH: As I understand DavidM, he believes prophets exist today. Is
that the way you believe as well, Bishop?
From your posts, I was under the impression that you believe the
heavens are closed, and there is no need for
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*It is perhaps perplexing to them why you would so adamantly argue that
the Scriptu
Dave wrote:
DAVEH: As I understand DavidM, he believes prophets exist today. Is
that the way you believe as well, Bishop?
=
Profits exist almost everywhere today, except, of course, in my shop.
ability were too high, and
my search techniques were lacking.
Perry
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* It is not additional revelation that we
So, Terry, you are running a non-prophet business?
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Dave wrote:
DAVEH: As I understand DavidM
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Perry
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dave,
Adding to the word is very dangerous business. If one
jd in blood red
-- Original message -- From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] He actually believes in the very same scriptures the rest of do. DAVEH: As I understand DavidM, he believes prophets exist today. Is that the way you believe as well, Bishop? From your posts, I was
Pastor, what do you
thinkDaveH means by this word "Protestants"?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:55:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the Mormon rhetoric
"Protestants"
If truth be told, info from the hearing of flies on the wall would reveal that "protestant" is a word used by the Mormon faithful as they speak with contempt of the opposing hordes. The public use of the word is one thing -- the private use is another. It is the perfect ad hom .
let's keep Thinkin'
Thoughtfully..what(will) certainppl(will)
disclose(?)(.)
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:54:27 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If truth be told, info from the hearing of flies on the wall would
reveal that "protestant" is a word used by the Mormon faithful as they
speak
It is the perfect ad hom . defensible and
accusatory at the same time.
DAVEH: LOL..You guys slay me. If I had used the term, Liberal
Protestants, you might have a reasonable chance of having a valid
argument. But to hear you guys recoil from being thought of as a
DAVEH: Interesting that you would ask somebody who doesn't claim to
read minds to read mine, G. Another example of myopic vision? Seems
like you are looking for answers inside rather than outside the box.
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Pastor,
what do you thinkDaveH means by this word
Not what I said at all. I spoke of
additional scripture. No need
for more if it was right to start with.
DAVEH: You are losing me, JD.are you now saying the heavens
are open to further revelation? I'm not trying to put words in your
mouthjust trying to find out what you believe
that
boxRocks, Bro;can you lie your way out of it?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..Protestant[Christianity] has piqued my
curiosity.
nally, I would not rely on Google for uncovering the truth
about anything. Especially if my expectations of it's ability were
too high, and my search techniques were lacking.
Perry
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ure.html
Perry
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Dave,
Adding to the w
DAVEH: No need to do so, G.
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that
boxRocks, Bro;can you lie your way out of it?
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:37:52 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..Protestant[Christianity] has piqued my curiosity.
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Dave Hansen
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David Miller wrote:
As for Mark not being around at the time
of Christ, Hippolytus names Mark as one of
the seventy appointed by Jesus in Luke 10.
John wrote:
Hippolytus of 340 AD ???
I don't know where you got the 340 AD date. Hippolytus was born 80 years
after the apostle John died,
As you, David, are a CT (contributing theologian) on TT, ought we exhibit
the same caution when reading you? IFO always do.
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Hi John. I was not sure that you were the one who wrote that piece in the
beginning, which is why I spoke about the author. It is a very common
doctrine among scholars and theologians. I offer a few more comments below.
David Miller wrote:
The idea that the Scriptures were being recorded,
IMO, yes you are as to the former (Scripture) but, not the latter ('works')
L
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Hi John. I was not sure that you
As to date of your historical authority, the Hipp man, I confused the date of a list his name appears in. Your dates are correct. He is the same man who leaves the Church, declares himself anitpope and makes himself a successor to the Apostles. His comments about Mark, nearly 200 years after the
David maneuves to pin jd to the wall:
Upon what authority do you base your perspective that Mark was not around during Christ's ministry?I caution you not to embellish upon second hand theories that you read from theologians in such a way that it would cause you to reject primary historical
John in whatever color this is.
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi John. I was not sure that you were the one who wrote that piece in the beginning, which is why I spoke about the "author." It is a very common doctrine among scholars and
JD wrote:
David maneuves to pin jd to the wall:
Wrong spirit, JD. I have no interest in pinning you to the wall. You bring
your competitive spirit from wrestling into the wrong forum.
David Miller wrote:
Upon what authority do you base your perspective
that Mark was not around during
John wrote:
I do believe that the apostles had a measure
of the Spirit that was in addition that of the
gifts of the Spirit
The apostolic office is characgterized by special signs and wonders, yes,
but this should not be characterized as you have done here. Read 1 Cor. 12
for the proper
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John wrote:
I do believe that the apostles had a measure
of the Spirit that was in addition that of the
gifts of the Spirit
The apostolic office is characgterized
.
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John wrote:
I do believe that the apostles had a measure
of the Spirit that was in addition that of the
gifts of the Spirit
and prophets
Lance, you may be right, but please separate the biblical from the
speculation in David's post so the rest of us can see it as you do.
Perry
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Onest a rassler, always a rassler?
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David maneuves to pin jd to the wall:
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Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I would
like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that.
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I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I would
like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that.
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David -- this post causes me some concern. Aaahh, but I will limit my response to your comments. Read on.
P.S. Yes, I am writing this note after beginning my response. I have a three hour treadmill thingyto do at 12:30. I must get ready .
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An effeminate remark which even the female founder of your church has disagreed with. If you had a picture of me, you wouldnotaccuse me of "effeminate" anything. Apparently you honor Semple as some kind of authority within the Christian co mmunity. I do not.
a single word in this case, changes
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David -- this post causes me some concern.
Aaahh, but I will limit my response to your comments. Read on.
P.S. Yes, I am writing this note
after
to put
forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke.
Perry
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You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry
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All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be
speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to
produce stuff, while producing
up a claim, and you being unable to do so. That is all.
Perry
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:34:11 -0500
Why not go with 'blowin' smoke
: December 30, 2005 17:19
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Lance, I have asked you to back up your claims...something you evidently
cannot do. Your inability to do so makes your claims baseless. I am a
nuisance only in so much as I am asking you to do something you obviously
cannot do
My recent comments in
Green.
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David -- this post causes me
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David -- this post causes me some concern. Aaahh, but I will limit my response to your comments. Read on.
P.S. Yes, I am writing this note after be
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David -- this post causes me some concern. Aaahh, but I will limit my response to your comments. Read on.
P.S. Yes, I am writing this note after beginning my response. I have a three hour treadmill thingyto do at 12:30. I must
Recent comments in Green
below.
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The job of the apostles was not to write the Bible,Matthew, Mrak (probably under the supervision of the Apostle Peter), John'
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Within the church , God has placed apostles,
prophets,evangelists, pastors and teacher. There collective
ministries are given a threefold purpo
I think you named the apostles correctly. It appears that your list of
names of the others goes down hill from there. You did not even mention
Joseph Smith. Certainly he was as much a (False) prophet as Calvin and
more influential than any of the liberals you chose to honor.
You might want
You surprised me. J Smith was not an illuminary of the biblcial scriptures. He and Calvin are worlds apart. And Calvin's work certainly kept The Discussion alive for the established and Christian church. If you believe that one can be wrongabout something and remain connected to Christ, then you
And to compare the range of influence of J Smith with any on the list is spurious, at best. There is a big difference between one who creates a "new religion" and one who works within given boundaries to explain and definition a religion. J Smith has NO INFLUENCE outside his religion. Many on my
His condition was "If you abide in Me and My Words
abide in you" Tell me how does one meet the
condition with other words abiding in them. Also
how can one be a doer of the Word if they reject the true
and embrace the false?
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His condition was "If you abide in Me and My Words abide in you" Tell me how does one meet the
condition with other words abiding in them.There is no reason to believe that any other word than the word of God
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Within the church , God has placed apostles, prophets,evangelists, pastors and teacher. There collective ministries are given a threefold purpose, but the specifics of each functiona
Within the church , God has placed apostles, prophets,evangelists, pastors and teacher. There collective ministries are given a threefold purpose, but the specifics of each functionary is unique and even exclusive.
The apostles and prophetsare a case in point. They are a part of those named in
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