Re: [Vo]:Linear and Angular Momentum

2014-02-08 Thread David Roberson
David Roberson Sat, 08 Feb 2014 13:32:56 -0800 If you look into this scenario in detail, you will see how the total angular and linear momentum is conserved separately. The high velocity gas impacts the large volume of gas and sends the total mass

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread David Roberson
I agree with you Eric, the jury is still out. Ed's way of thinking is more in line with my recent thoughts about a retarding magnetic field effect. He may not agree, but it is easier for me to understand how a process that slows down the snap action associated with the acceleration of the

Re: [Vo]:Not from Fusion paper by Steven Jones

2014-02-07 Thread David Roberson
The link does not work for me. -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 11:53 pm Subject: [Vo]:Not from Fusion paper by Steven Jones

[Vo]:More Magnetic Coupling Thoughts

2014-02-06 Thread David Roberson
Looking deeper into the magnetic coupled positive feedback LENR reaction, I have a few ideas to pass along. I understand that a magnetic field has essentially unlimited access to the atomic structure. By this I mean that a large, static external field can penetrate through the electron cloud

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-05 Thread David Roberson
the arrangement of the electrodes in the cells--they did not have the platinum coil that P F used. There was no comparable magnetic field applied to the Pd electrode in those null experiments. Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-05 Thread David Roberson
It is interesting that the magnets are shown in that application. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2014 3:28 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev Of interest - in this

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-04 Thread David Roberson
Axil, you have offered an idea for a mechanism that might allow coupling between a locally large magnetic field and nearby fusion events. I remain skeptical of this type of effect but I want to understand how it operates according to your concept. I have a few questions for you to review

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

2014-02-04 Thread David Roberson
I have realized for many years that magnetism is just another way of observing moving electric charges. Even though the behavior of the underlying moving charges can be used to define how they effect other charges, it is more convenient to express the effects by invoking a magnetic field in

Re: [Vo]:Superconductors and voltage

2014-02-04 Thread David Roberson
While looking at reviews for Caver A. Mead's book, I read a review that said he made a mistake including voltage in a calculation for superconductors. Now I think that there must be voltage of a type in superconductors, there are 2 types of voltage. One is the voltage drop across a

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-04 Thread David Roberson
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 3:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, you have offered an idea for a mechanism that might allow coupling between a locally large

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-04 Thread David Roberson
from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The large magnetic field reported by DGT supports the coupling concept, but there is question as to whether or not the report is accurate. It is valuable to review again what DGT said

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
Axil, It is premature for us to draw the conclusion that all cold fusion reactions are the same process. Nature decided this issue and not us. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 10:11 am Subject:

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
. It turns out that assumption fits the behavior. Of course this fit might result from luck, but this approach would seem to be a good start - better than an approach that does not fit the observations. Ed Storms On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:25 PM, David Roberson wrote: Axil, It is premature

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:23 PM, David Roberson wrote: I agree with your approach Ed. I just wanted to point out that we must not put on blinders if we make measurements that suggest that some

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
(Stalecookie) (My first response to this blog.) - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev I agree with your approach Ed. I just wanted to point

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
a magnetic field, it can thermalize gamma radiation to EUV and convert that radiation to more magnetic strength in a positive feed back loop. I will continue to repeat this until it gets through, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:00 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Bob, I was not thinking

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
I agree Bob. He needs to rotate the coils 90 degrees as you point out. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
, the electrons spiral towards one electrode and the positive species spiral to the opposite electrode with the electrodes connected to a load On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I agree Bob. He needs to rotate the coils 90 degrees as you point out. Dave

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
the transverse field, the electrons spiral towards one electrode and the positive species spiral to the opposite electrode with the electrodes connected to a load On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I agree Bob. He needs to rotate the coils 90 degrees

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
increase magnetic field strengths going forward. The magnetic fields produced by such solitons can get huge. LeClair saw a soliton he produced eat through 6 feet of copper as it rode on the surface of a copper rod. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
strong permanent magnet. Charge movement does not produce a current. There is no AC frequency and no RF involved. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:13 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: You are describing a strange particle Axil. It is not clear as to whether or not the magnetic field

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR

2014-01-31 Thread David Roberson
I have a question regarding the Casimir effect that someone might be able to assist me in answering. There is discussion of how this effect is able to squeeze the hydrogen atom into one of the fractional states and I wonder why this same force does not push apart the atoms or whatever else may

Re: [Vo]:Huizenga dies

2014-01-30 Thread David Roberson
It is unfortunate that he did not live long enough to understand the damage he caused to the world by his vendetta against cold fusion. One, or perhaps two more years and we would have witnessed his mea culpa. Dave -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To:

[Vo]:ECAT Computer Model Calibration

2014-01-30 Thread David Roberson
A few days ago I speculated that a COP of at most two would be measured for an ECAT that undergoes only one power pulse starting from a cold state. Both of the table top sized box demonstrations performed by Rossi essentially operated in this manner and there seems to be plenty of controversy

Re: [Vo]:LENR monopoles.

2014-01-29 Thread David Roberson
Let me speculate about the magnetic field. My suspicion is that the magnetic field encourages the LENR activity. The additional LENR activity somehow interacts with the magnetic field to increase the strength of that same field. Thus you have a positive feedback mechanism in effect that

Re: [Vo]:NASA Bushnell quote on 5-30 THz stimulation for LENR

2014-01-28 Thread David Roberson
I consider a magnetic field the consequence of a time changing electric field. The electromagnetic effects that we experience depend upon which observation frame we happen to occupy. This is demonstrated by considering how a charged particle appears to a stationary or moving observer at some

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-27 Thread David Roberson
The superconducting regions might be detectable by the way they interact with electromagnetic waves. There is discussion about trapped photons from time to time and that might be due to the zero loss walls of a superconducting cavity. I can't think of a better method of trapping energy for a

[Vo]:ECAT COP with One Power Pulse

2014-01-27 Thread David Roberson
There seems to be a great deal of contraversy related to the actual COP demonstrated by Rossi during his public tests. I especially recall the two that used the table top cubic device that he plans to place within his megawatt shipping model. Several of us made attempts to calculate the

Re: [Vo]:energy driven superconductivity and IR coherence for LENR

2014-01-27 Thread David Roberson
believe SPPs are 1D. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The superconducting regions might be detectable by the way they interact with electromagnetic waves. There is discussion about trapped photons from time to time and that might be due to the zero loss

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
Jeff Driscoll says: |smaller fractions than 1/137.0359 are not possible because electron would be going faster than light| Special Relativity explains the electron speed of light limit in a somewhat reasonable manner. In that case the maximum speed is approached as the limit to a

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
I guess that is what it boils down to Eric. I would much rather have the series continue indefinitely as I have been discussing. i.e. (1/2,1/3,...1/137,1/138...1/infinity) which would blend nicely with the other integer portion that we all assume is real. If the total series is found to be

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory Why would you attach no special consideration to the fine structure constant? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I guess that is what it boils down to Eric. I would much rather have the series continue indefinitely as I

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
their errorbars right. On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I guess that is what it boils down to Eric. I would much rather have the series continue indefinitely as I have been discussing. i.e. (1/2,1/3,...1/137,1/138...1/infinity) which would blend nicely

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
atom can be. Harry On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I guess that is what it boils down to Eric. I would much rather have the series continue indefinitely as I have been discussing. i.e. (1/2,1/3,...1/137,1/138...1/infinity) which would blend

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-26 Thread David Roberson
= 2, 3, 4 ...) - otherwise Mills would use that as proof, Though he shows through math why his size is correct - google correspondence principle Randell Mills On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: That is right Harry. Nobody cares about how big it can

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-25 Thread David Roberson
not be the answer. But the end result is amazing in terms of elegance 5 simple equations all equal the rest mass of the electron to 9+ significant digits. Jeff On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Thanks for the information Jeff. I was expecting his mass

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
I didn't make an effort to identify exactly which water molecules are loosing energy in the process. The end result is the same; the water left behind is cooler and less energetic than it was before the vaporization occurs. What process do you consider active leading to the vapor escape with

Re: [Vo]:Two answers to the solar neutrino problem

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
Jones, Thanks for the assist. In your theory of RPF, in what form is the energy released? In the usual solar fusion process a neutrino escapes the active region to carry away excess energy. Since they are difficult to capture, most leave the sun along with the mass and energy from their

Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter Two

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
Mike, do you believe that those older cavitation devices operated at over unity? My main concern is that it is so difficult to make accurate measurements of that type when the answer is so very close to 1. Too bad the effective gain was not significantly higher. That would make our lives a

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
Robin, there is only one lower frequency where radiation is not possible and that is zero radians per second. If you believe that some other frequency exists that is a threshold how would that be determined? What in nature would separate one frequency from the next so that a well defined

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
I think I understand what you are referring to now. We are in agreement that energy is radiated by atoms in discrete levels at 1 photon per chunk. The main point I was attempting to make is that the actual orbitals must have characteristics that do not radiate unless and until that photon is

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
Eric, the broadband emission of photons does seem a little problematic. I have come to expect the energy levels of atoms to be so well defined that accurate clocks are built using the transitions. Are you sure that you accurately understand the source of that radiation? It would seem more

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
luminescence during NIR Ti:sapphire femtosecond laser excitation. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:54 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Eric, the broadband emission of photons does seem a little problematic. I have come to expect the energy levels of atoms to be so well defined

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
cavities. He says that protons were in these cavities but who can tell really. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:42 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I see what you mean Axil. Unless the nano cavity is a super conductor it should loose energy to resistive walls like a normal cavity resonator

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
were in these cavities but who can tell really. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:42 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I see what you mean Axil. Unless the nano cavity is a super conductor it should loose energy to resistive walls like a normal cavity resonator. In time, the total

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-23 Thread David Roberson
is correct. You could have missed something important. Hand waving just won't due. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:01 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, you might be expecting too much too quickly. It could well take many years to fill in the cracks assuming that Mills is correct

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
The total energy contained by the steam must be no greater than the input light energy. This is not magic, just a way to concentrate the incoming light. I am assuming that LENR of some sort is not contributing. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
cells. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:09 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The total energy contained by the steam must be no greater than the input light energy. This is not magic, just a way to concentrate the incoming light. I am assuming that LENR of some sort is not contributing

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
superfulidically and share the incoming energy, enhance energy concentration might result. Using water as the reaction substrate precludes the development of BEC formation due to its cooling effect. Using hydrogen does not stop BEC formation. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:44 PM, David Roberson dlrober

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
the production of little heat. I think this lack of heat condition is all connected under the nano-particle causation principle. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, I realize that there may be some interesting behavior associated with this material

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
still runs. This was demonstrated to the patent office and Papp got the best patent of the year award back in the 70s.. When Mills can do that, Mills will only be 50 years behind Papp. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It could be a Papp like process

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
to the patent office and Papp got the best patent of the year award back in the 70s.. When Mills can do that, Mills will only be 50 years behind Papp. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: It could be a Papp like process as you suspect Axil. I do not know what

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
I look at this issue from another angle. If Papp had a real engine, then why would he want to keep it from humanity? It seems more likely that he wanted to prevent others from seeing that his device was a fake and the liquids would make that obvious. Many people would like to prevent being

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The other problem I find difficult to accept is that the Papp engine did not find its way into production if it actually performed as described. Even an idiot would instantly realize that the Papp engine would be a great investment and money maker

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
it short of exceptional evidence. I have heard this illogical thought process many times, sadly the utility of something does not overcome the resistance of belief and powerful entrenched interests. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have to admit

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
steam without bring water to a boil. You should further your education into human nature by dealing with a criminal psychopath. Bernie Madoff is not available anymore but I am sure there are many more doing business on wall street. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, David Roberson dlrober

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
, then to protect that beloved thing, the welfare of the world can go to hell. Just a thought... On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Sorry John. You are correct about what you say to a certain extent. How much resistance do you think the general public would

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
, 2014 10:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Why on earth would they let such an opportunity get away? It just doesn't add up. Just to play devil's advocate, perhaps Papp had

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
to a boil. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Sorry John. You are correct about what you say to a certain extent. How much resistance do you think the general public would exhibit to owning a vehicle that runs virtually for free? Virtually zero

Re: [Vo]:Nanoparticles make steam without bring water to a boil.

2014-01-22 Thread David Roberson
for the conservation of mass when the CoE was proposed, but probably only because it would have seemed obvious. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:10 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Sorry John. You are correct

Re: [Vo]:PESN: Mills explains upcoming BLP demo

2014-01-21 Thread David Roberson
The video raises my expectations quite a bit, but there are many questions that need to be answered before I will be convinced that it works well. My main question at this point is why do they need 10,000 amps of drive current to get the power output? If the dynamic impedance is .1 ohms,

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-21 Thread David Roberson
Jeff, do you know whether or not Mills takes special relativity into consideration in his equations that lead to the excellent match with the fine structure constant? If he does, how does SR impact the calculation? There are interesting implications if he does not need to. Dave

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-21 Thread David Roberson
zero mass, On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, do you know whether or not Mills takes special relativity into consideration in his equations that lead to the excellent match with the fine structure constant? If he does, how does SR impact

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-20 Thread David Roberson
in determining biological and chemical processes. Strength of the luminescence indicates distance between the molecular tags. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:17 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Harry, I have been following the hydrino discussion and I believe that the theory

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-20 Thread David Roberson
be accommodated. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 8:04 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: All they need

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-20 Thread David Roberson
My bad. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 11:13 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Eric

Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory

2014-01-20 Thread David Roberson
I, like you would greatly appreciate a theory that is more classical and deterministic. But, there is a great deal of human intellect and energy involved in quantum theory and we must be careful before it can be abandoned. It is our task to remain skeptical of a new theory and subject it to

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
as ‘unknown sources’. But, the same lines have been seen in BLP experiments producing hydrinos. Mike Carrell From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement My understanding of fields

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? It would seem

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
announcement On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:42 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Can a loss of mass attributed to the formation of hydrinos and their subsequent escape from the system be shown? This would be strong evidence as well. I think the transition from hydrogen to hydrino would show

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
Mechanics) where Mills's theory is based on CQM. Mills's theory fits existing data better than standard quantum mechanics and the equations are *much* simpler and easier to understand, though it takes some elbow grease to understand it, Jeff On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:54 PM, David Roberson

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
to see. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
Jeff, Do you expect x-rays and gamma rays to pass through a cloud of hydrinos without interacting? This might be a way to see them if they are in fact considered dark matter. I recently read about a super powerful x-ray laser that could strip all the electrons from atoms and I bet it would

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
hydrinos? These things are Atoms( bosons) aren't they? Let 's see an experiment that produces a hydrino BEC and look for absolute certainty and determinism. That would be something to see. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Mike, I honestly hope that Mills

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
The more I think about hydrinos, the more I suspect that they would not be dark enough to hide from astronomers. Perhaps the clouds of hydrogen that we see and from which stars form are just a large number of hydrinos being decomposed back into hydrogen due to gamma radiation. One problem

Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered

2014-01-19 Thread David Roberson
Kevin, the skeptics have failed to prove that Rossi does not have a real device. They always fall back on character assassination when they have nothing left. I guess you might think that if someone once committed a felony, then it is likely that they might repeat. This belief may be true in

Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR contacts the particles? The IR must induce an extremely large electron current flow on the surface of the metal which of course leads to a strong

Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
Mike, You say that hydrinos are dark matter. What do you base this statement upon? I have long believed that dark matter and energy do not actually exist, but am open to ideas. It seems that the scientific community comes up with concepts to explain everything except LENR by imagining

Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
focusing and resonances), restrictions on EMF concentration can be overcome to fantastic levels. The deep infrared(terahertz) is ideal for this type of wavelength manipulation because the wavelength is so long. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil

Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: One of my favorite concepts is that the electric field

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
Mike, I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? It would seem that much of the recent quantum computing, etc. fairly well establishes

Re: [Vo]:The photo reactor

2014-01-18 Thread David Roberson
NANOPARTICLE David Roberson wrote: Axil, How does quantum mechanics explain this phenomenon? Is this new physics of some type or just super heating of the region where the IR

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-17 Thread David Roberson
I also find what appears to be a problem with the theory. Mills makes an assumption in the very beginning of his analysis that the electron orbit sphere must be of zero thickness with no radial component if it is to exist without radiation of electromagnetic waves. This is not true and can

Re: [Vo]:Re: BLP's announcement

2014-01-17 Thread David Roberson
, 2014 at 12:21 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I also find what appears to be a problem with the theory. Mills makes an assumption in the very beginning of his analysis that the electron orbit sphere must be of zero thickness with no radial component if it is to exist without

Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
It appears to me that they have most of the possible current levels covered. Why list ranges that include each other? Magnetic fields that are changing in magnitude or direction generate electric fields that can impart energy upon charged particles. A steady magnetic field is not able to

Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
Actually, the mass of the hydrino should be reduced since it has less energy than zero level hydrogen. That energy and hence mass has been lost to the catalyst. Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 16,

[Vo]:Some ECAT Model Observations

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
I spent a bit of time adjusting some of the parameters of my thermal control ECAT model and have a few observations. I suppose that it seems obvious that the greater the non linearity of the function binding core power generation to core temperature, the more critical will be the required

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
Blaze, you sound like a bookie. Are you the one calling the shots in that game? Is anyone actually making bets according to your inputs? How liquid are the bets and can someone get into a position and then out again without delay? How is the money handled? If someone had bought a position

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
John, it does seem rather arbitrary how his game works and hopefully he can help me understand it better. Does anyone actually risk capital on this issue? I have seen plenty of proof that Rossi has the real deal and I can not imagine how additional proof will make a difference to many others.

Re: [Vo]:Some ECAT Model Observations

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
I guess I should have mentioned that I do include thermal storage within the materials. This behaves much like a capacitor and charge. That is what determines the time domain characteristics of my model. I was referring to a different type of delay, such as one that might show up if the

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jan 16, 2014 4:24 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35% So, Dave, I guess you're at .. what? 95%? 90%? On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: John, it does seem rather arbitrary how his game

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
, 2014 at 1:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: At this point I would have to be shown iron clad evidence that the ECAT does not generate additional heat beyond what is used for drive. That would have to fall into the upper 90's. Dave -Original Message- From: Blaze

Re: [Vo]:Observation on a BLP (patent?) document

2014-01-16 Thread David Roberson
I mentioned the energy lost to the catalyst when I actually meant to include all of the various sinks. The main point I was intending to make is that energy and thus the mass associated with that energy exits the hydrino. I have one idea as to how that loss of mass may be distributed among

Re: [Vo]:Cern Colloquium: Low Energy Nuclear Reactions?

2014-01-14 Thread David Roberson
Axil, The magnetic effects on the sun are a long way from Earth. It is true that the net field at the surface of the Earth is a vector combination of the Sun's field at that location with the Earth's, but the Earth's field is far dominate. The effect should have been seen by experiments

Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement

2014-01-14 Thread David Roberson
It will be interesting to get more details about this device. Hopefully, the testing is solid and not subject to interpretation. The current level being injected into the cell seems enormous and capable of causing difficulties in the measurement system. Also, the pulse nature of the activity

Re: [Vo]:More on the Higgs field in LENR - as a portal

2014-01-14 Thread David Roberson
Eric, Not so fast with doing away with CoE. I have not seen any proof that it is violated in any of these reactions. My suspicion is that it remains valid. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jan 14,

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread David Roberson
Axil, It is premature to worry about understanding how LENR operates. One day it might appear very simple and we wonder why we did not understand it earlier. One look at a microprocessor and you have to realize how complicated it is, but we know how to make them by the boat full now. My

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-10 Thread David Roberson
That is amazing! I suspect that we are safe in assuming that none of the large objects will be traveling at greater than 3000 kilometers/second (1% of the speed of light). Unfortunately, that is plenty fast to destroy the planet if the object is large. I have never considered how much damage

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

2014-01-10 Thread David Roberson
It would be interesting for that speed gap to be filled. We might be able to guesstimate the density of these smaller object in some manner, although at the moment I am at a loss. The main thought that comes to my mind is along the lines that I mentioned previously about the bombardment of

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Web Page

2014-01-09 Thread David Roberson
There is interesting evidence that cosmic ray induced clouds determine the earth's temperature to a significant degree. The recent weak sun spot activity allowed more rays than usual and hence the colder weather. Let's hope that they return to normal levels so that we do not all freeze and

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