Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

Hoi, There is one big hole in this comparison. We are a movement, the Foundation is the material part of it. It is responsible for all kinds of everything but we, as a community do not pay for a roof over our head. We are represented on the WMF board. That is it. Arguably, the employees have a bi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

Hoi, That would not be a bad idea in and of itself. However, the kind of troubles are not necessarily the kind where a Union has its experience. Thanks, GerardM On 5 March 2016 at 20:45, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 05/03/16 16:49, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Arguably, the employe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

Hoi, I am the last one to say that multi-linguality is not important. However, given that the affiliates board is selected by an organisation that NEEDS to communicate in English, I disagree. It is vital for people of the affiliates to have a reasonable understanding of English and when they do no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

te for the > representative who needs to communicate in English > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen > Sent: Sunday, 06 March 2016 9:45 AM > To: Wikimedia Maili

Re: [Wikimedia-l] about staff

Hoi, It is a travesty when it is up to an employer to recognise a trade union. The question is very much what is implied by such a recognition. It may be cultural but I would consider the WMF seriously flawed when it is not willing to recognise the right of employees to be organised. A trade union

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

Hoi, A few things are clear. Having a WMF project intended to compete with Google is bonkers. The mudslinging and power grabbing tone of many of these messages seriously turn me off. The only thing they accomplish is that people like myself are moving in their emotions from depressed to furious. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: A conversation?

Hoi, He is (as far as I know) flying coach. It was his own project with his own money. So what is the point? Thanks, GerardM On 10 March 2016 at 07:19, Ruslan Takayev wrote: > Gerard, et al > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

Hoi, Katherine welcome.. you are now included at Wikidata as well [1]. Yes, the information is incomplete but many people will add information about you including links to Wikipedia articles. Do good. Thanks, GerardM [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=23034479 On 11 March 2016

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

Hoi, It is becoming boring. Andreas, quality is not in sources. They are often horrible. Your notion that only sources are good is off. It has been argued too often that quality is in much more than only sources. The argument that Wikidata is immature has been made all frequently and the point is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: Is it going to be once every two years?

Hoi, When it is only a nominal consideration but mostly a chuckle, what does it say about the validity of those people and their assumptions? This is exactly the infuriating kind of response that turns people off the community. Thanks, GerardM On 12 March 2016 at 14:45, Marc A. Pelletier wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania: Is it going to be once every two years?

exposes what is wrong with us. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/02/wikipedia-peter-breggin-power-of.html On 13 March 2016 at 00:58, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 2016-03-12 1:35 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> When it is only a nominal consideratio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Hoi, May I ask on what basis this should be done. Is it not equally relevant to ask yourself how isolated you are in your position? Is this what we need, will it do us any good or is it just that you feel that this is what "we" need ? It is fine for you to spout what you do. However, I am very muc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

Hoi, Organising our movement in the format of a federation will not necessarily do what you describe. As you assume that money flows to the places where money is spend, you will not have a federation. A federation is based on equal terms and when money is what keeps everone in line it is not a fed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

Hoi, Realistically. Wikipedia is very much an enabler. Your ease to consider "simply" disabling mobile edits or uploads I find appalling. People in countries like USA or UK are very fortunate. Nobody would ever argue to disable their edits or uploads. At the same time as a movement we desperately

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hoi, Have you considered the cost? It is not free to run a shop. When another organisation can do it for you for less, it would be not good to have an own shop on principles only. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2016 at 20:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > Why do we need such a Shop? > > (I must

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FLOSS for operations equipment

Hoi, Given that a Google and Facebook are working on networking equipment and are making both hardware and associated freely available, it makes more sense to concentrate on this high end solution. A solution that fits with the need of WMF. Thanks, GerardM PS I am not so interested that I kno

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hoi, With the same pragmatism a different scenario. If say a $20,- donation arrives and a T-shirt is send, * $12 basic transaction and product costs * $12 pro rata costs of having our "own" product to sell produce * 1,80 WMF administration costs * $5,80 loss on every T-shirt Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

> [1] > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATeles&type=revision&diff=168565809&oldid=168565337&uselang=en > > [2] > https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Teles/Angola_Facebook_Case&oldid=168514640 > > On 3/20/16, Gerard M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Accuracy

Hoi, There are two parts to it as far as I am concerned. More collaboration, I am all for it. The other part is a power grab because it means that things must meet "established" requirements, that is imho a bad idea. It establishes power struggles whereby established "truths" trump common sense wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Accuracy

Hoi, Sorry but your alphabet soup makes it hard if not impossible to understand. I do not edit en.wp and that should not be a necessity to understand what is being said. Thanks, GerardM On 25 March 2016 at 14:13, Stephen Philbrick wrote: > Improved accuracy is like motherhood and apple pie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Accuracy

er Keyes > Sender: "Wikimedia-l" Date: Fri, > 25 Mar 2016 10:27:33 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiProject Accuracy > > Featured Article, Good Article and point of view, in sequence. Hope that > he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

Hoi, Hoe does this fit in with the plan to use structured data for Commons? As I understand it, the plan is to use tags for pictures, this will make what pictures depict findable in any language with the appropriate labels. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2016 at 20:02, Dan Garry wrote: > Hello

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

Hoi, If anything they provide us a service. Anything they can do, we can do integrated. Anything they can do, we can learn from. Anything they prove works better is often a discussion the others have lost their firm footing. We are very much stuck in fixed thinking modes. It is why Wikisource is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

Hoi, When we recognise that an editor has different needs we should provide editors with different tools. Readers in turn do not need all the tools of editors but we do want to convert them to editors. It does not follow that they will be enticed to become one by all the clutter. The objective is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikiwand

Hoi, I think you have missed the point badly. Wikiwand is not about the communities and their pride. It is about what the Wikimedia Foundation stands for. It is sharing the sum of all knowledge. When we do a piss poor job and let Wikiwand steal the cake we have our priorities fatally wrong. The n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

Hoi, Denny I am sorry to have lost a friend who is on the board but I am happy to welcome back a friend who can now express his ideas, his notions, his opposition, his point of view. Yes you work for Google. For me it means that you are again in an unique position to be an ambassador for both Googl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What can we learn

Hoi, Really more bureaucracy? As if that does not bring its own conflict of interest? Thanks, GerardM On 9 April 2016 at 10:20, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > What should be noted is that a personal declaration of COI cannot be > sufficient. Probably an evaluation of potential conflits done by a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Kenya - copyright infringement

Hoi, Sorry for some nit-picking. It is only one variation of NDS it is not a variation of NL. The problem with NDS is that there has been a formal adoption of one variant of NDS that is only for Germany. Thanks, GerardM On 11 April 2016 at 09:34, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > Wikipedia goes by l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey annual report

Hoi, Congratulations Leigh :) Thanks, GerardM On 14 April 2016 at 03:52, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote: > As per the request on the Reports page on Meta, we hereby announce our > very first annual report as a Wikimedia user group (sorry its late! we > lack hands) > > > https://outreach.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

Hoi, I do appreciate Denny. However, your notion that "we're lucky to have him" flies in the face of him leaving the board. He now does no longer a COI working at Google. Have you considered that he might have been more worthwhile to us having remained on the board and having been more outspoken ev

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Hoi, You are welcome to your opinion about Jimmy Fae. But honestly. I think you have gone into a direction where I fail to follow you nor do I see a benefit. I also fail to understand why you have it in for Jimmy, it comes over as personal. What I personally observed in quite a few occasions is th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

Hoi, So when as a result of your yihad the worst of what you imagine comes out, the most you have achieved is that you can say "this is why I think he is an asshole". Then what. It does not change a thing. We are still intend on sharing the sum of all knowledge. You still have to do a lot of convin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

g on the board for > life. Our current situation is a disheartening for many within the > movement. > > James > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Gordon Joly > wrote: > > > On 17/04/16 20:55, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > Arguably the latest > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias

Hoi, Given the existing number of articles and the gender gap in them, it is unlikely that activities make much of a difference. I think that it makes more sense to compare the new articles and see if the percentages are different in those. Did anyone look at it in this way? Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias

nts so far are getting stale. Thanks, GerardM On 20 April 2016 at 13:11, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > Yes. That is SOP for studies about biographies and literature in general. > On 20 Apr 2016 18:04, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Given the existing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias

Hoi, EEK women EEK ... I think we should accept that our heroes deserve attention. Calling Emily a hero as in an achiever is not a problem. Emily is certainly notable and she is more than a figurehead. I do not have a problem with celebrating our own notable people. When we do, WE have a problem.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Africa / Gender gaps (was Re: Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias)

Hoi, Anders, have you looked into the ArticlePlaceholder? Could it serve you well instead of adding articles using the bot? Thanks, GerardM On 21 April 2016 at 07:48, Anders Wennersten wrote: > Our traditional way of creating article is based on the interests of the > contributors. This p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Africa / Gender gaps (was Re: Gender gap on "classical" encyclopedias)

> Den 2016-04-21 kl. 08:21, skrev Gerard Meijssen: > >> Hoi, >> >> Anders, have you looked into the ArticlePlaceholder? Could it serve you >> well instead of adding articles using the bot? >> Thanks, >>GerardM >> > I do not know, as I am not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

forward, it does hinder and it takes energy away from those things that really matter. Thanks, GerardM On 17 April 2016 at 22:13, Oliver Keyes wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > So when as a result of your yihad the worst o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

Hoi, I categorically oppose paying people for content. Enabling them to create content is different. Citations is content and its quality is relevant but only that. Thanks, GerardM On 22 April 2016 at 18:54, James Salsman wrote: > How do people feel about a few of the larger the Chapters

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

benefit, it would destroy what we are and how we do things for no obvious benefit. Thanks, GerardM On 23 April 2016 at 16:02, James Salsman wrote: > > > > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > ... > > > > I categorically oppose paying people for content. Enabl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

to expand our outreach to libraries and seek the use of commercial sources in the libraries that enable this for their users. Libraries are our friends and in this publishers are our enemy. Thanks, GerardM On 23 April 2016 at 18:00, James Salsman wrote: > > > > > > Ger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia is basically just another giant bureaucracy

Hoi, When you restrict or (mis)direct this conversation to a specialist mailing list, you fail to understand what this is all about. It is exactly much of the discussion that happens on this mailing list by the people who are most heard where it becomes plain that the publication has a point. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crisis of Confidence

Hoi, The most important thing about the board and the WMF is that they enable what we do. The dependence on them delivering services that are of a high quality is something they deliver. At the same time there is a coterie of "Wikipedians" that want to remake the WMF in their own image. They have p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crisis of Confidence

/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no_confidence_on_Arnnon_Geshuri > 2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35411208 > 3. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Quarterly_Report,_FY_2015-16_Q2_(October-December).pdf&page=5 > > Fae > > On 2 May 2016 at 06:58, Gerard M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

Hoi, What is the point of this question. As if money is an issue in matters like this. When is it enough, why is it for you to want more and more and in the process make it less a Wikipedia thing and more something personal to you. The board decided on a quality team including outside council that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

Hoi, I would assume that people who spoke in confidence were ASKED if they wanted to be included. It would be really bad to approach it in any other way. As to the knowledge engine. Can we please put it to rest. It has always been a big misunderstanding. It is not and has never been what the WMF i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

Hoi, There is a difference between your formality and what actually happens. The board is unlikely to not accept a chosen representative. I wonder if it ever did. Given the quality of the people who can be chosen from, do you really expect this to happen and consequently what is it what you want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

Hoi, There is a difference between your formality and what actually happens. The board is unlikely to not accept a chosen representative. I wonder if it ever did. Given the quality of the people who can be chosen from, do you really expect this to happen and consequently what is it what you want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What should the board do *now*? [was Re: Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal]

Hoi, Really? Doctors from Mexico?? That is very discriminating. The problem with many medical publications from the USA is that they are not at all about the best practices people should be treated with. Many best practices are not practiced in the the USA eg Open Dialogue. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

Hoi, Sorry Pete, there is not. Thanks, GerardM On 9 May 2016 at 01:30, Pete Forsyth wrote: > Keegan, thank you for clarifying; I understand better now. I agree about > the dynamics; I wouldn't say Jimmy Wales' role on the Board is unrelated, > though, as Denny's message was intended to shed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

Hoi, And then there are all those people who wonder why you keep harping on the same subject.. Sigh.. Who is that community in your image? Thanks, GerardM On 10 May 2016 at 13:14, Fæ wrote: > On 9 May 2016 at 08:19, Lodewijk wrote: > ... > > The elimination of the Founder seat, I'm also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] "Among mobile sites, Wikipedia reigns in terms of popularity"

Hoi, It is wonderful to see how we have evolved.. Does anyone remember the good old days when it was an application totally and utterly outside of MediaWiki? Thanks, GerardM On 11 May 2016 at 20:33, Pine W wrote: > Forwarding since this may be of general interest regarding Wikipedia > reade

Re: [Wikimedia-l] governance improvements

Hoi, I wonder what you mean by doing better. Are you doing your best given the circumstances? If so you do what can be expected of you. When people think that is not enough, it is their problem. They are not in the same position and have no genuine grasp what the situation is. In the way that your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Hoi, For a bit of background form 990 is probably something everybody knows about as it is financial and important and that is why we mention this.. For all of you who do not know, we have a FAQ where you may find what is relevant about all this. Thanks, GerardM PS sorry Greg for pulling your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to get help (an essay)

Hoi, Jake there are plenty of us beavering away for our own private purposes. Some have noble ideas of sharing the sum of all knowledge but realistically there are far more for whom Wikipedia, Commons, Wikisource, Wikidata name them all is a coping mechanism. This is important to understand. Copi

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 43

g > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >1. Re: Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts > > r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

Hoi, The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for Wikidata. We can include much more and, we do include much more. It includes more people who won an award that what English Wikipedia does. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/06/wikidata-lan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

Hoi, What I know is that in India Wikisource has proven to be very effective and important to promote the use of local languages. As a member of the language committee I am in favour to have a Wikisource almost as easily as a Wikipedia. The one thing that the WMF fails to do is support the finishe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

Hoi, It is a matter of perspective. The persistence of the current talk system makes for hardly readable discourse. So please continue with what is good for some and not so much for others. Thanks, GerardM On 28 June 2016 at 18:27, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On 25.06.2016 17:15, James Fo

[Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

Hoi, At Wikimania two wikipedians of the year were elected. The article for one of them and the data at Wikidata are pathetic. The article is a one liner stub. The Wikidata item had no statements and I added the few that were minimally needed. I find it incredible that we take no care of our own

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

orrect? > > Joe > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 at 11:35 Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Wikipedia is not my thing. I hardly ever write on articles. The article > > states that Rosie wrote 1000 articles.. Hardly an argument why she > became a > > Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

l-intentioned, is counterproductive, > and is keeping others from engaging with you, or even engaging on the list > in general. > >A. > On Jun 30, 2016 4:22 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Yes that is incorrect. There is a Wikipedia article

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to communicate compassionately with non-native English speakers

Hoi, I have been thinking about what you say. The problem I see is that your attitude is one where you have to be compassionate for the benefit of people for whom English is a second language. What this means is that you see yourself as superior because your English is so great and they have a prob

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to communicate compassionately with non-native English speakers

ds in > the first place, i. e. attribute a different meaning than the > speaker/author had intended, you _cannot_ be in a position to understand > the points. > So, thanks Nick, for sharing! I like your post very much. > Michael > Am 07.07.2016 9:35 vorm. schrieb "Gerard Mei

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to communicate compassionately with non-native English speakers

, Bence Damokos wrote: > Gerard, > I for one do not really understand the point you are making..., especially > as it relates to best practices in communicating across cultures and > linguistic backgrounds. > > > Best regards, > Bence > > On Thursday, 7 July 2016, Gerar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to communicate compassionately with non-native English speakers

DOES matter. > > And your point "Listening, understanding is where we have a problem" > is probably true on many levels. And if it is, I'd find it interesting > if you considered taking a piece of your own advice and reflected on > the way you address the people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Essay: "Editing Wikipedia as self-care activism"

Hoi. Yes. It describes much of how I feel about adding content to our projects. Many Wikimedians have their own private reasons to do what they do. The one thing we could deduce is how important it is to be much more effective and show the effect of people's efforts. At times it feels as if you are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Essay: "We need to stop treating nonprofits the way society treats poor people"

Hoi, It resonates powerfully. I had a grant for a very specific deliverable. The money was earmarked for this and in stead of payment of delivery, I had to jump through all kinds of hoops. It may be that all the effort to give money to do things is well intentioned however, have we ever looked in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

Sorry, no clue what that is supposed to mean. Thanks. GerardM On 24 July 2016 at 23:23, Robert Rohde wrote: > L8 v6d44oh > > On Jul 23, 2016 2:54 AM, "Stephen LaPorte" wrote: > > Hi all, > > The Board of Trustees have published minutes from the summer Board meeting > on June 22-23 and th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

Hoi, I really hope that the question is not answered and when answered the answer is no. I am so sick and tired of this nonsense. It never stops and there is supposed to be only one answer. There are two alternatives; no answer and not as you like it. Thanks, GerardM On 26 July 2016 at 06:53

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Fwd: Improving search (sort of)

Hoi, So what do we have? It is what the most missed searches are for the English Wikipedia. Arguably the searches include content that is "iffie". But when many people seek info on a porn site, on what basis is it not notable? This is only for en.wp and the results for other languages can be quite

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

Hoi, A question that is very much under discussion is if presentations like these deserve a place at Wikidata. Given the subject and the relevancy of our current state of mind on subjects like these it makes perfect sense. We are already able to produce lists using the tools provided by Magnus to u

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

fforts and easily do as they please without considering the Wikidata policies. Thanks, GerardM On 1 August 2016 at 09:31, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > A question that is very much under discuss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

t; This is intended as frank feedback, not an attack. If it reads like > the latter, my apologies for being unable to express myself more > clearly. > > Thanks, > Fae > > On 1 August 2016 at 14:22, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > The point is not about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Arabic version of Offline Medical App Launches

Hoi, Congratulations :) Thanks, GerardM On 2 August 2016 at 12:29, James Heilman wrote: > Hey All > > We have just launched the Arabic version of our offline medical app. It is > all of Arabic Wikipedia's healthcare, pharmaceutical, anatomy, and > sanitation articles. > > > https://play.go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [discovery] Fwd: Improving search (sort of)

ation is out for privacy reasons and manual review is not worth it, > > so this isn't a priority for Discovery right now. > > > I hope that helps to further explain what we found and why we're not acting > further on this issue at this time. > > Cheers, > > Deb

Re: [Wikimedia-l] coordinate liaising with Google (was Re: Google returning outdated text snippet)

Hoi, I had an issue with data Google provided. I notified them and used Wikipedia as a source. I was pleasantly surprised that it did not take long for it to be remedied :) Yes for big issues we can have a liaison however, we can still can notify them when the need arises. Thanks, GerardM O

[Wikimedia-l] Marketing jobs at the Wikimedia Foundation

Hoi, At the research mailing list two relevant activities were mentioned that do not adequately take place. * *Gamified interfaces for microcontributions à la Wikidata game* ** **Ubiquitous outreach, supported by dedicated technology* The notion exists that it is possible to do all kind of techno

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Marketing jobs at the Wikimedia Foundation

get > them to buy another, and that depends on the quality of the product. It is > much easier to get new first time editors than to give them the > encouragement and satisfaction to keep them going. > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Marketing jobs at the Wikimedia Foundation

kipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range= > latest-20&pages=%D0%9B%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D0% > BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B8% > D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B8_2016 > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Marketing jobs at the Wikimedia Foundation

rg/wiki/ > Communications/Resource_center > > In short, we are completely with you, and if you have ideas and questions > about raising project awareness and usage, we'd love to talk. > > Yours, > *The Wikimedia Foundation Communications Department* > > > > On Thu, Sep 1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New functionality: cross-wiki search results

Hoi, Is Wikidata information included? Thanks, GerardM On 7 September 2016 at 18:35, Deborah Tankersley wrote: > The Discovery Search Team wants to enable search results > ​on Wikipedia ​ > that will include articles > ​ ​ > gathered across > all sister wiki > ​​ > projects – within the s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New functionality: cross-wiki search results

AM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Is Wikidata information included? > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > > Currently that is not part of the plan, this is specifically addressing > sister wik

[Wikimedia-l] Fixed the citation issue yet?

Hoi, This is a topic that deserves its own thread. Citations are problematic on so many levels it is hard to decide where to begin. When the question is can we get a lot of citations in Wikidata, relevant citations, the answer is yes. It takes a lot of work and a lot has been done by the lovely pe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fixed the citation issue yet?

quality of sources will improve in Wikidata and in their project. So far arguments why and how it will improve things have been made and so far the silence is deafening. Thanks, GerardM On 10 September 2016 at 20:30, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 08/09/16 05:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

Hoi, For me there are two things missing. * It is about the readers stupid! That is what we do it for. So how are we going to get more readers, how do we involve them. What can we achieve when we consider marketing approaches and marketing KPI's. * If design is important.. ok but how about qualit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

be very helpful. I'm not sure how that would > fit with the rest of the strategy. Perhaps a strategy would be "Increase > paid affiliate support for volunteers?" I'd be interested to hear what you > think. > > Pine > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Gerar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GPS data shift

Hoi, There is no room for impacting the Wikidata licensing. There is no question that it is CC-0 and stays that way. The main thing is the database license and it is what we happily wave as our data is mainly secondary anyway. Thanks, GerardM On 5 October 2016 at 21:04, Simon Poole wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

Hoi, I do care that everybody can come to places where they are safe. All the specific LGBT attention to safety is however on many levels problematic when we prioritise this over other safety aspects. The big picture for me is that we need to go to places where bringing Wikipedia and what it stands

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania strategic review

Hoi, I have largely lost my appetite for Wikimania and "strategic discussions". With the USA finally having its house in order, the argument surfaced. We can do with regional conferences I am told and it is for me to argue otherwise. I do not want to argue. For me Wikimania has always been a proof

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

ody in this thread has asked for the safety of > LGBT+ attendees to be "prioritized" over other safety aspects. Please > don't make it appear as if they have. > > Thanks, > Fae > > On 18 October 2016 at 11:42, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Hoi, There are two conflicting approaches to vulnerabilities known to "government"; vulnerabilities make government vulnerable and therefore they need to be handled properly in code. The other approach is that a vulnerability is a vector to attack. When Mrs Coleman works for the WMF, it follows th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

with a poor > human rights record reflects poorly upon Wikipedia/Wikimedia and our > mission to share knowledge. There's a reason a number of major companies > pulled their events and funding out of North Carolina after the restrictive > restroom laws were passed for example... &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

Hoi, Do you blame me for not feeling safe going to the USA? Thanks, GerardM On 8 November 2016 at 11:08, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Not going to North Corolina is absolutely fine with me. We do not gain > anything by going there arguably not to any state in the United State

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

black trans person who feels unsafe even in San > Francisco (and has felt that way for years), I would really appreciate you > not pushing last night's election results in my face to make a point. > > - Pax > > > > On 11/9/16 8:24 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

y recommend a reality check with friends off-list as to what > might be read as offensive, should you wish to continue posting > further emails about this particular topic. > > Thanks, > Fae > > On 9 November 2016 at 16:43, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

October which was positive > about the Wikimania experience. > > Fae > > On 10 November 2016 at 06:57, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > > The notion of offence is one where you take it where there is none > > certainly no offence is intended. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

Hoi, In that case what is the point of Wikimania. Thanks, GerardM On 10 November 2016 at 14:25, Andrew Lih wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > You do not get it. Wikimania is first an

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