Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transparency: special WMF employee rights for Wikimedia projects

A few comments: Limiting staff rights to being on an as-needed basis makes good sense to me. There have a few incidents where staff have taken actions that they shouldn't. Limiting the scope of staff rights helps to contain the potential problems. I'm sure that rights management becomes a more an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Hi Pax, I agree that blaming the victim is an unsatisfactory resolution. On the other hand, defining what is meant by "incivility" and "harassment" can be very tricky. Just because there is a strong disagreement doesn't imply that people are being uncivil, and we cannot expect that no one will ev

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

iduals, and discourage > marginalized people from participating in the project. > > - Pax > > > On 6/5/16 5:09 AM, Pine W wrote: > >> Hi Pax, >> >> I agree that blaming the victim is an unsatisfactory resolution. >> >> On the other hand, defining wh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

Hi Board search folks, Can you comment in response to the email from Lord Bumbury? Thanks, Pine On Jun 1, 2016 14:21, "Nikola Kalchev" wrote: > Hello, > > about the ED search survey [0] I, as a member of an emerging community, the > Bulgarian one [1], disagree that anyone wants "to invite also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

ver the weekend to keep at least the > worst instances of abuse and hate-speech off of the pages :( > > Best, > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Pine W wrote: > >> Hi Pax and Pete, >> >> It sounds like part of the issue in this case may be that may we need

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting: "Please rate these other qualifications: (Please rate 0 to 5 with 0 being 0 not important; 5 for extremely important)... Experience of working in an a-hierarchical, participative management environment". I find this puzzling bec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

Agreed that uncivil administrators can be a part of a negative feedback loop of stress and cynicism, as can uncivil WMF staff and others in positions of authority. However, there are no perfect human beings and if we demanded that all administrators and WMF staff be perfect at all times then there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

I understand now. Thank you for clarifying. Pine On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak < djemieln...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > I'll add a question of my own here. I find this statement interesting: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

I've been following this discussion with some interest. Can someone point us to where Sue's compensation, after she left the Executive Director role, was budgeted in the WMF annual plans? That money cannot have come out of nowhere. Which line item, or line items, in the 2015-2016 Annual Plan were t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

With regard to Sue, adding to the list of concerns about the sheer amount of money is that she wasn't the executive anymore, so why was she being paid like one? Pine On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Fæ wrote: > Thanks Gnangarra. > > I'm familiar with Bridgespan, and when I worked as a strategy >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

I have created https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Training_for_administrators and would welcome feedback there. On the subject of block evasion, I have some ideas but would defer to our experienced CheckUsers. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

ps://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Pine W wrote: > >> I have created >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Training_for_administrators >> and would welcome feedback there. >> >&

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

> for doing some types of work. > > Sydney > > > > > > Sydney Poore > User:FloNight > Wiki Project Med Foundation > WikiWomen's User Group > Facebook https://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore > > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Pine W wro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

ibber wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > I've been following this discussion with some interest. Can someone point > > us to where Sue's compensation, after she left the Executive Director > role, > > was budgeted in the WMF annual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Thank you for pointing that out, Risker. The emails indeed cross paths and I did not see it. The point remains: the standard is proactive disclosure, not minimum and delayed disclosure. The latter happened, and it is not ok. It is a relief that Sue was not getting $300k per year as an advisor, whi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

Thanks Pete. I also think that Risker and I have different expectations for financial disclosure and transparency. My view is influenced by my experiences with Washington Stare government as well as my experience with WMF grantmaking, where transparency is prioritized over privacy. Among other bene

[Wikimedia-l] WMF and affiliate finance practices; further questions about WMF finances

Hi folks, I'm working on an essay about good finance practices for WMF and Wikimedia affiliates. I'm also working on some further questions regarding WMF finances. I imagine that the essay and the collection of questions will be ready in 1 to 3 weeks. In the meantime, if people would like to provi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

ypes of work on WMF projects. And that training > > > should be mandatory. > > > > > > Then people who are focusing on a particular type of administrative or > > > functionaries work can take more advanced courses that could be > mandatory > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Individual Engagement Grants program will fund 8 community-led projects

Thank you, Marti and IEGCom. It's nice to start a weekend by reading good news. Pine On Jun 18, 2016 08:45, "Marti Johnson" wrote: > Hi all, > > > In the latest round of Individual Engagement Grants > , 28 eligible proposals were > submitted for review.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

In the last ED selection, I had thought that experience in the private sector would be good for the WMF ED to have. I was a bit disappointed with Sue (I know that some people liked her on a personal level, but on a professional level as ED she was also partly responsible for a variety of initiative

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 43

Hi Joady, Can you comment on WMF's approach to succession planning? I am aware of a few situations in which it would have been very helpful if succession plans had been in place for managers in WMF, and if employees had been trained accordingly so that when a position opened there was an easy and

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Reiss-Engelhorn Museum (REM) of the City of Mannheim v. Wikimedia Foundation

Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Steinsplitter Wiki" Date: Jun 21, 2016 08:27 Subject: [Commons-l] Reiss-Engelhorn Museum (REM) of the City of Mannheim v. Wikimedia Foundation To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" Cc: Unfortunately, the German trial court in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

Hi James, Thanks for the update. Questions: 1. Is Flow feature development still frozen? If and when would Flow feature development resume? 2. Will VE be enabled on talk pages? 3. Is work planned to improve the Wikitext editor, or will that happen only in the context of integrating it into VE?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

6 08:16, "James Forrester" wrote: > On 23 June 2016 at 17:01, Pine W wrote: > > > 1. Is Flow feature development still frozen? If and when would Flow > feature > > development resume? > > > > ​Yes, principal development is frozen. Like with all production s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

A number of us are currently discussing this situation on IRC. (: I believe that the immediate concern is being addressed, and we are also discussing ways of improving the deletion process on ENWP. Pine On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:21 PM, carl hansen wrote: > Mitar, > To get a deleted article bac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing and the privacy policy

at this point. > > On 2 July 2016 at 00:14, Pine W wrote: > > Hi Tomasz, > > > > The Ombudsman Commission's scope, as I understand it, includes > > investigations of violations of the privacy policy under certain > > circumstances. So far as I know, the OC

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing and the privacy policy

politics. > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Yes, it's a very quiet list. However, I'm an advocate of being mindful of > > scope. I've long advocated for wiki-specific discussions to happen on the > > wiki and/or mailing lists which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia-I] Winner of Wiki Loves Earth 2016 in Nepal

Wow, those are impressive. I am forwarding this to the Commons mailing list. Thanks for sharing, Pine On Jul 3, 2016 18:03, "Bijay chaurasia" wrote: > Hi all, > > It’s our privilege to share the list of winners for* Wiki Loves Earth 2016 > in Nepal*. Thanks to Wiki Loves Earth International Te

[Wikimedia-l] Essay: "Editing Wikipedia as self-care activism"

https://medium.com/@verbistheword/editing-wikipedia-as-self-care-activism-72bbcb67b02c by Veronica Erb might be of interest to Wikimedians. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New me

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

could be helpful for novice talk page editors (and novice wikimarkup editors on content pages as well). Pine On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Pine W wrote: > Thanks James. It would be nice if novice users who prefer VE for content > pages didn't need to learn about wikimarkup for ta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] With my thanks to everyone ...

Thank you for your service, Geoff. I hope that we will still see you around. Good luck with the new gig. :) Regards, Pine On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Geoff Brigham wrote: > Hi all, > > Over the past five years, I’ve been honored to serve as the General Counsel > and Secretary of the Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disclosure and the ethics of funding non-profit journalism

Hi Craig, Thank you for setting a good example with proactive disclosure. Pine On Jul 16, 2016 14:53, "Craig Newmark" wrote: > Hey, after discussion with WMF folks, and more, I figured I should disclose > the following, in respect. > > In addition to founding craigslist, I've been focused on ph

[Wikimedia-l] Essay: "We need to stop treating nonprofits the way society treats poor people"

This essay just landed in my inbox. It's good food for thought about how we (WMF and affiliates) manage our grant allocations, our relationships with major donors, and our reporting systems. http://nonprofitwithballs.com/2016/07/we-need-to-stop-treating-nonprofits-the-way-society-treats-poor-peopl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 100k articles written with Content Translation tool

Nice to see. Thank you, Runa and Language Engineering. I like video clip too. Thank you, Victor. Pine On Jul 18, 2016 04:15, "Runa Bhattacharjee" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Our barely 1-year old Content Translation Tool just passed 100,000 > translations < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

Thanks Stephen. A brief question to the Board: the board minutes say, "After discussion, the Board identified three goals. First, the Board is responsible for maintaining the long-term plan for the organization. The long-term plan is designed in partnership with the executive staff, and also needs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] June minutes from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

I hope I answered your question :) > > Have great day/evening/night > > Christophe > > PS: I'm sending this email from my smartphone sorry for any typos due to > french autocorrect ^^ > > Le 23 juil. 2016 3:17 AM, "Pine W" a écrit : > > > > T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

Hi BGC, I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether the Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future? Pine On Jul 20, 2016 21:20, "Pine W" wrote: > Thanks D

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

nks, > GerardM > > On 26 July 2016 at 06:53, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi BGC, > > > > I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been > > overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether the > > Founder's seat will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

> that I'm not sure it would be a good idea. > > All that being said, I'm sure it will come up during the gouvernance > review. > > And yes I missed it, sorry. Gérard, no need for such email, just, as Pine > did, reask the question :) > > Have a nice day >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

f it. > > > > Now, my personal opinion is it's neither urgent nor critical. And on top > of > > that I'm not sure it would be a good idea. > > > > All that being said, I'm sure it will come up during the gouvernance > > review. > > > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board structure (Was: New Elections Committee)

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > You can reach the pers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board structure (Was: New Elections Committee)

6 08:33, "Liam Wyatt" wrote: > On Wednesday, July 27, 2016, Pine W wrote: > > > > > > > There are times when highly threaded discussions on wiki are easier to > > follow than large quantities of entangled mailing list posts, but that is > > an ex

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board structure (Was: New Elections Committee)

Hi Dan, As is evidenced by this very discussion, people read and discuss matters on this list. Those who prefer a lower volume of communication can subscribe to the Announce list instead. Pine On Jul 27, 2016 08:46, "Dan Garry" wrote: > Hey Pine, > > On 27 July 2016 at 0

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about Wikimedia-l communications

There has been recent discussion about Wikimedia-l communications. I think that there are varying understandings that would benefit from discussion in a distinct thread. The information page for Wikimedia-l says: *"Discussion list for the Wikimedia community and the larger network of organizatio

[Wikimedia-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

Slides that Katherine presented at State of the Map US: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Katherine_Maher%27s_keynote_presentation_at_OSM_State_of_the_Map_US_2016.pdf Video of Katherine's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywGuz1586M0 Slides that Yuri presented at State of the Ma

[Wikimedia-l] Conference submissions now open for WikiConference North America

WikiConference North America will take place October 7 through 10 in San Diego. The session tracks are: 1. Community 2. Advocacy & Outreach 3. Technology & Infrastructure 4. Health care and science 5. GLAM 6. Education and Academic Engagement Please submit proposals here: https://wikiconference.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board level strategic planning?

Thanks Ben. Just a few comments: * The WMF Board has limited bandwidth, and they have a lot on their agenda right now. I'm not sure how much of strategic work they can do while also handling their other priorities, so some dependence on the ED is likely necessary. * Some members of the WMF Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel received a grant to work with Arabic speaking gifted students

Thanks for the news, Ido. I have heard many good comments about the Wikipedia Education Program in Israel, and it's nice to see that the program is expanding. It's also good to see the program build bridges across languages. Pine On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 11:34 PM, ido ivri wrote: > Hi all, > > We

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google returning outdated text snippet

Hi Pax, I believe that WMF Discovery is the team that is best suited to address matters like this, so I am forwarding your email to the Discovery mailing list. Pine On Aug 7, 2016 16:46, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" wrote: > In a recent thread about improving search, I posted a comment about a > possib

[Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

Hi, Just a request for an update about C level hiring. My understanding is that WMF is actively recruiting for a new CTO and hopes to fill that position within the next month or two. Previously announced next priorities were HR and Community, in that order. I am wondering how Communications and L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

t; On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Just a request for an update about C level hiring. My understanding is > > that WMF is actively recruiting for a new CTO and hopes to fill that > > position within the next month or two. Previously a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

ED and how the Board was handling those concerns. Pine On Aug 14, 2016 04:52, "Asaf Bartov" wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > > > I am also wondering about what can be done to keep C levels after we get > > them. > > > The i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

2016 at 12:28 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > I agree that there can be a benefit to internal promotions in the sense > > that less onboarding is required. On the other hand, sometimes a fresh > > perspective is helpful, and at least one of the interim Cs has been > > insisten

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

That probably wasn't your intent, but I > agree with Keegan's characterization of it as gossip. > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Discussing an organization's strengths and weaknesses, transparently, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

Returning to one of the original subjects of this thread, which wasn't intended to be controversial: can we get an update about how the C level hiring schedule looks? I realize that I asked this questiom on the weekend. There is no rush to get an answer. "We're still thinking about this but will h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C level hiring and retention

Hi Christophe, Thanks. Your email is more than I expected on a weekend. Board members get to have AFK time too. There are people (both Wikimedians and WMFers) who need to deal with emergencies of various kinds (primarily technical or safety) whenever those happen, and community activity needs to b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2016 call for Board Governance Committee Volunteer and Advisory members [results]

I'm impressed with the high caliber nature of the appointees. Thank you for volunteering. Thank you Nat for making these valuable appointmrments. Pine On Aug 16, 2016 06:47, "Nataliia Tymkiv" wrote: > Dear all, > > I am honestly delighted to announce the results of the public call for > Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

Hi Carlos, In general, I like the new criteria. I would like to suggest making the criteria entirely quantitative, so that there is minimal subjectivity about whether or not affiliates are meeting these standards and therefore there is likely to be less controversy about the status of affiliates.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

I might suggest distinguishing the resourcing issue from the chapter status criteria. I am of the view that expecting volunteers to be available for the same kind and quantity of work as paid part-time or full-time staff is unrealistic, that WMF should provide a smoother glide slope from all-volun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

m continues to discuss the criteria for chapters and thematic organizations. Pine El 19/08/2016 a las 06:28 p.m., Pine W escribió: > Hi Carlos, > > In general, I like the new criteria. > > I would like to suggest making the criteria entirely quantitative, so that > there is min

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

> What harm is avoided by eliminating the ambiguity you refer to, Pine? One of the harms is that aspiring chapters don't know what standards we should be aiming to meet, because the standards are vague. Another harm is that the Affiliations Committee doesn't have clear criteria to apply, which mea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Iowa User Group

Hi Kevin, Welcome! This is a high traffic list with a wide variety of topics. You might also be interested in the Affiliates mailing list, and in WikimediaUS-l. Also, please do attend the US Wikimedians meeting next week if possible. Info at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaus-l/20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

efine the criteria, so nothing is set in stone yet. But that's the general > idea and the AffCom is there to assist as much as possible to those groups > who wish to meet the criteria. > > Sent from my HTC > > - Reply message - > From: "Pine W" > To: &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

Carlos, I completely agree that resources are a prerequisite for organizational success. A group in rural Afganistan will have a much different operating environment than a group in metropolitan London, and it is more likely that the group in London will be a chapter. My understanding is that WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

I agree that Affcom, as well as WMF, could do more to support affiliates in all stages of development. However, the subject of this thread is the criteria for chapter and thematic organization status. Chapter or thematic organization status comes with some privelidges like the right to vote for af

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

Gnangarra, I agree with you about the vision. I think that where we see things differently may be in the discussion of how we achieve the vision. Individuals have a lot of freedom in the Wikimedia community, but organizations exist in a complicated world with real money, real laws, real people, an

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Translators-l] Purodha passed away

Forwarding news of the passing of a Wikimedian, User:Purodha. May he rest in peace. Condolences to his family and friends. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Johan Jönsson" Date: Sep 2, 2016 12:38 Subject: [Translators-l] Purodha passed away To: "Wikimedia Translators" Cc: Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I agree that we need to work on developing new leaders. That includes: * On-wiki administrators * On-wiki program leaders * Affiliate board and committee members (including user groups, which IMO get far too little support from WMF) * Affiliate p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thinking outside the box

Agree. Our flat population of active editors [0], while the Internet population continues to grow, suggests that we have a problem. As a part of the upcoming WMF strategy, I hope that there will be work on growing the population of active contributors, as well as developing the number and skills of

[Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

Below are some thoughts I have possible themes that can be included in the strategy update. I'm sharing these in public in case other Wikimedians would like to discuss strategy. 1. Design experience Move the design and intuitive ease of use of the Wikimedia user experience away from a 2000s experi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

ether? Why are we so much on an > amalgamation of islands? When we share, we do not lose when we are given > back we become enriched in the process. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 11 September 2016 at 22:48, Pine W wrote: > > > Below are some thoughts I have possible th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

I think that we're discussing two related but distinct themes in this thread. One of them is the organization of the consultation, and the other is the substance of the strategy. I will be very interested to see how the consultation is structured with a communication professional in the ED role. I

[Wikimedia-l] Cascadia Wikimedians board and officer update

Dear colleagues, I am writing to let you know of transition plans at Cascadia Wikimedians. Over the next few months, my Cascadia officer responsibilities will transfer to Peaceray and Brianhe, who are already Cascadia officers and are members of the Affiliates mailing list. I plan to resign my Cas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] General Counsel Search | Job Description

Hi Amy, Thank you for sharing this. Very briefly: Is it also necessary, or would it be beneficial, to have candidates also be licensed to practice in Florida? I suggest that the job announcement be copy-edited. I make typos myself, and sometimes when I later re-read one of my emails I am less th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cluster ban on most Wikimedia IRC channels on Freenode

I'll forward your inquiry to the IRC ops email list and ask one of the GCs to respond to you here. Pine On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > Hi, > > Today a ban was set on #wikimedia-bans that bans any user who is not > authenticated to the nickserv from joining a channel (

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Will the European Commission’s copyright rules spell destruction for Wikimedia?

Perhaps of interest, courtesy of Jacob Rogers: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/09/13/european-commission-copyright-leaks/ Pine On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki < steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote: > FYI: > > > Will the European Commission’s copyright rules spell destruction fo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GPS data shift

Just wondering: would tighter integration between Wikidata and OSM help with this situation, for example, if a set of coordinates is adjusted in Wikidata then it is automatically adjusted in OSM and vice versa? Would that be a good idea? Pine On Oct 4, 2016 22:17, "Sam Klein" wrote: > On Tue, O

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata

Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Léa Lacroix" Date: Oct 5, 2016 01:20 Subject: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." < wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Hello folks, An information that you could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

Hi Pax, My understanding is that WMF is doing a strategic review of Wikimania. If that is correct, considerations like the ones you raise about location could be included in the scope of that review. I'm pinging Ellie with the hope that she can provide information about the status of WMF's thinkin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference venues

Thanks Ellie. On the topic of event safety, I am wondering if there is a standard checklist that WMF uses when narrowing potential sites for Wikimanias and if you could make that checklist public. Perhaps it is public already but I don't know where to find it. Regarding Wikimania goals and strate

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania goals, strategy, and resources

whether by adding WMF staff/contractor time or adding resources for affiliates to hire event contractors. I hope that these factors will be included in WMF's consideration of its future goals, strategy, and resource commitments for Wikimania and other conferences. Regards, Pine On Mon, Oct 1

[Wikimedia-l] "Can Wikipedia save the internet?": Wikipedia and political neutrality

Hello colleagues, Some of you might be interested in this news article: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/can-wikipedia-save-the-internet-a7380786.html When we know that we have countless shortcomings in Wikimedia, I found it refreshing to hear that some aspects of our cont

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Technical Design Intern Search | Job description

Hi Maria, Can we get an update from someone about WMF about work on Portals in general? I believe there is, or is planned, a Discovery portal, a Research portal, an Evaluation portal, and a general-purpose Community portal. I heard that some work was paused while different teams were syncing their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Technical Design Intern Search | Job description

Follow-up question: would it make sense to have some integration between the redesigned Evaluations portal with the Communications Center and the resources on Outreach wiki? Pine On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi Maria, > > Can we get an update from someone about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Technical Design Intern Search | Job description

org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_ > Annual_Plan/2016-2017/Final#Program_3:_Develop_capacity- > building_tools_and_resources_for_core_Wikimedia_programs > - > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_Capacity_and_ > Learning/Annual_Plan#Grow_and_Scale_Mature_Wikimedia_ > Programs_including_Education_and_Lib

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer

Thank you for joining us, Victoria. We've been waiting for a VPT for a long time. Looking forward to all good things, Pine Pine On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Katherine Maher wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I’m excited today to introduce the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief > Technology Officer,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

A similar thought crossed my mind regarding MediaWiki software. I believe that a number of USG agencies use MediaWiki, and that some of them use it for classified purposes. This is a bit of a two-edged sword; I imagine that they'd want to support the continued development of MediaWiki (which is goo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

James, thanks for bringing up that NYTimes article. Having taken a quick look at it, it does raise some concerns but I would consider it a matter worthy of further inquiry rather than a red flag. In Wikimedia we have our own issues with trying to have an "open society" type atmosphere while keeping

[Wikimedia-l] WikimediaAnnounce-l not always forwarding to Wikimedia-l

Just an FYI that this is a problem again. I filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149381 last week. If you send something to WikimediaAnnounce-l with the intention of it being forwarded to Wikimedia-l, you may want to add Wikimedia-l explicitly to your To: field until this is fixed. Pine __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

Having looked at this situation further, I am glad to say that I did not find any information in Victoria's background that I considered to be a red flag. However, I would appreciate hearing more from Victoria about her involvement in "Total Information Awareness" [0] and similar programs, past or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to review: Design Statement of Purpose

Overall I like the statement on wiki. Quick question though: "rigorous research" can be very time consuming, very expensive, and probably difficult to do well given Wikimedia's vast number of languages, number of projects, and multiple platforms. Could this be made more nuanced? Other than that, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter to the new CTO

Hi Rogol, I wish I could comment in depth. The one comment that I will make is that Katherine's tone toward the community has generally been receptive, and so far we (meaning WMF, the community, and the affiliates) have not had large-scale conflicts since she became the interim ED, which I conside

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

Hi Dariuz, I like how you're thinking. Perhaps the Board could make public use of Phabricator to triage and track issues. Rogol, I share some of the frustration about communication problems. However, I'd also like to note that Dariuz, Christophe, and Natalia have been responsive to discussions her

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

In addition to the suggestions from Tim: (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that the tool you use does not send your chosen password over the Internet and instead tests it locally. (1) If you find it difficult to remember strong

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

besides 2FA which is not available to everyone? Pine On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 16/11/2016 à 19:19, Pine W a écrit : > > > > (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like > > http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > 1. If you don't trust that strength testing site (which is fine), choose > > another. I did a couple of quick checks on that site; while it's entirely > > po

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

As a reminder: IRC is governed by Freenode. Channels can have their own rules, and there are widely varying systems of internal governance for Wikimedia IRC channels. I think it's important to note that WMF and the Wikimedia community are guests on Freenode, and I'm uncomfortable with the propositi

[Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

erate: I think that there could be benefits from a TCC, but I would suggest (1) softening the WMF's role in the creation of this document and (2) stating that the TCC applies to IRC channels on an opt-in basis. Pine On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 11/17/2016 10:30

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Implementing Katherine's Vision: "Discussing Discussions"

Hi Scott, Thanks for your enthusiasm about making the wikis friendlier places. A few points to bring to your attention: * Patrick Earley in Support & Safety has been researching issues related to harassment for some time. I suggest that you consult him on possible approaches. * I was happy to he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 - 2016 Fundraising Report just published

There is an ongoing discussion about this subject in Wikipedia Weekly on Facebook, and it appears that the matter is not yet closed. Stephen, could you clarify who "we" is in your last paragraph? I am not sure that WMF Legal is the entity that should be determining what is "in the best interest of

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