Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

--On 24. März 2006 11:07:06 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - it was broken multiple times in the past, it still has problems How so? The import functionality seem to be broken since at least Zope 2.7. I created a DTML method exported it and _tried_ to reimport it. Zope 2.7

Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

essary). Andreas --- - Andreas JungZOPYX Ltd. & Co KG- - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.zopyx.com, ww

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

te ZClasses as an implementation solution to co-workers. ZClasses will stay for the time being but they should be regarded as a bad solution for new projects. -aj --- - Andreas JungZOPYX L

Re: [Zope-dev] Wishlist Item

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Re: [Zope-dev] I agree that ZClasses should stay. I will volunteer

--On 24. März 2006 10:00:46 -0800 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am interested in maintaining them, documenting them, and upgrading them. Cool. I think a good starting point would be to update I have been t

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

--On 24. März 2006 18:09:36 +0100 Yoshinori Okuji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 17:33, Andreas Jung wrote: >> - it has no maintainer, nobody wants to touch it without gloves > > Is that any more true than for lots of other things? Right, but for dupli

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

y the largest problem in the Zope 2 world right now. I do also prefer to spend my time on more interesting projects in the Zope world than digging through ancient, scary code. Andreas ------- - Andreas JungZOPY

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

--On 24. März 2006 11:25:53 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the subject of deprecation, for the record, I think removing ZClasses is a mistake. They have legitimate uses. They have major flaws too. It would help if we would more clearly document their limitations and pitfall

Re: [Zope-dev] IMO ZClasses should stay

? Your time and our time is very much limited. We should spend this time on useful Zope projects and not in supporting ancient concepts that don't help the majority of the Zope developers. Andreas ------- - Andreas Jung

Re: XML export/import is cool! (Was Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?)

--On 24. März 2006 11:07:06 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Zope supports the export of content either through Python pickles (.zexp) or as XML. Unfortunatly the XML export/import has several problems: - the generated XML is pretty much too low-level

[Zope-dev] Deprecating XML export/import?

Zope supports the export of content either through Python pickles (.zexp) or as XML. Unfortunatly the XML export/import has several problems: - the generated XML is pretty much too low-level to use it e.g. for migration issues - it was broken multiple times in the past, it still has problems

[Zope-dev] Upcoming Zope 2.X releases

As announced earlier I plan to release Zope 2.8.7 and 2.9.2 by next Monday...so as always: any pending fixes should be commited until Monday. Andreas pgpnNv3KkZAp4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

--On 14. März 2006 21:14:33 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module whic

Re: [Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

It seems to be ZClasses relatedso it can go :-) --On 14. März 2006 15:40:55 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what this code is. But I've never used it or seen anyone else use it. I suspect it can go. - C On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:14

[Zope-dev] App.Product - distribution related code?

lib/python/App/Product.py contains code that deals *somehow* with "distributions" (whatever this means). Does any one know what this code is doing?...anyway this code uses the Python rotor module which was removed in Python 2.4. This code is a clear candidate to be kicked... objections? -aj pgpX

[Zope-dev] [svn.zope.org] How to change the From: address for checkin notifications

Due to some changes in my email configuration I would like to use another email address for checkin notifications email other than the current one. Is there a way to configure this on my own or do I have to beg before the svn admistrator? Thanks, Andreas pgpxckMy3h2Un.pgp Description: PGP signat

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.7, Zope 2.9.2 schedule

I plan to release the next Zope versions around March 28. The release will basically contain newer Five versions. -aj pgpH0qawTOb9h.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-d

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?

--On 2. März 2006 11:42:09 +0100 Wolfgang Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In case your file is to be taken as the Zope-2.9.1 windows release i'd need it at the Zope-2.9.1 release folder and not at your member folder. Sure. I've removed it from my member folder. I think one needs to be M

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py using startswith()

--On 28. Februar 2006 21:41:24 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: -if name[0] == '_': +if name.startswith('_'): Just a question: Is this only a matter of stylistic changes, or is there some, like, speedup invol

Re: [Zope-dev] ZClass Replacement Volunteer

--On 28. Februar 2006 10:31:04 -1000 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am considering volunteering to rewrite ZClasses. Who do I speak to? You can basically start this as your own project. Starting Zope 2.10 are officially deprecated. Any new development for Zope 2 and 3

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Two visions

--On 28. Februar 2006 16:06:55 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think focusing on one app server and a dedicated set of libraries would be a good alternative to two concurring app servers. +1 -aj pgpe9Th17c7O9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Two visions

--On 27. Februar 2006 21:57:46 -0500 Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 27 February 2006 10:37, Jim Fulton wrote: 1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually    replace Zope 2 2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5. As you probably know alr

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

done --On 21. Februar 2006 08:00:47 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). U

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

--On 23. Januar 2006 21:37:10 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Unfortunately I am currently too busy to do any releases right now. There are also some bug reports pending that sho

Re: [Zope-dev] Introspector package in zope 2.9

--On 10. Februar 2006 18:06:53 +0100 Jean-François Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I can't find the Introspector package in zope.app in 2.9 (Zope shipped with Zope-2.9.0.tgz) but can find it on svn. Forgot something ? Can you help? Thanks! This will be fixed in 2.9.1. -aj pgpq

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Release schedule and deprecation decisions

--On 5. Februar 2006 12:11:08 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one

Re: [Zope-dev] No more access to username

--On 3. Februar 2006 23:22:00 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Beat Rubischon wrote at 2006-2-3 14:10 +0100: Until Zope 2.8.3 it was possible to access to the name of the logged in user also in a public accessible method. .. This no longer works in Zope 2.8.5 (2.8.4 is unteste

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 schedule

I am plan to release Zope 2.8.6 and 2.9.1 in the middle of February (around Feb, 15th). Cheers, Andreas pgp4CgZl6DpmQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

--On 20. Januar 2006 10:03:03 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: set' set. A cool :-) Where's the code that checks if this header is present so I can take a look? ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py (where else :-)) Oh :-S I was expecting a different patch... so this only affects c

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

--On 19. Januar 2006 18:37:35 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Ah, okay, and how would I indicate in my PythonScript return that I'm returning something different to what is specified in zpublisher_default_encoding? By setting the content-

Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

--On 18. Januar 2006 10:31:03 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: ... The basic problem with the windows release is that there is currently nobody in charge for the windows release (although Tim is again doing working on the Windows side, ALL HAIL TIM).

Re: [Zope-dev] December release post-mortem

--On 18. Januar 2006 07:36:35 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the future, if someone introduces a major change, they *must* be committed to be available to deal with issues that arise during the release cycle. Perhaps we need to pick different release dates to avoid holidays.

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPT backward compatibility

--On 16. Januar 2006 13:36:32 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are two separate issues here: 1. ZPT backward compatibility. Are we introdcuting ZPT backward incompatibilities? (Aside from module paths)? My original implementation would introduce incompatibilitie

Re: [Zope-dev] Deprecation process issues

--On 16. Januar 2006 13:08:31 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll just note that: - I agree with your point about deprecation warnings. IOW we should not check in new deprecation warnings on the trunk that cause warnings to be output when running the standard tests. We s

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

--On 13. Januar 2006 13:25:19 +0100 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Thoughts? All these changes seem to be the right thing. This will make unicode life in Zope a lot easier. I worry about backward compatibility though. Some code (s

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 10. Januar 2006 12:20:14 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This means basically keeping zLOG since it is only a very thin logging module wrapper. So why did we deprecate zLOG? :-) Did we? It was impl

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 10. Januar 2006 11:44:31 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't have an opinion on solution yet. What I want is something easy to use wher you can just import a log method or object and make a function. I don't want to set things up, because if we need to set things up

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 10. Januar 2006 11:09:32 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/10/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). How do you mean? As far as I can see, all the levels are still there in

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 10. Januar 2006 10:51:04 +0100 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find all this fairly self-evident and highly useful, and se absolutely zero reason for removing them, when they are so useful. This decision was made for Zope 2.8 (according to zLOG/__init__.py). We're now wor

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

--On 9. Januar 2006 20:06:09 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-) The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there: You just want to deprecate and remove it. _We_ want to _cleanup_ things. The cu

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 9. Januar 2006 17:40:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. BLATHER & TRACE can be merged to DEBUG and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the "ReST allowed arbitrary f

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 9. Januar 2006 10:55:21 -0500 Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

--On 9. Januar 2006 16:35:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If that is the case then I intend to: 1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather) into a more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has to be an independent package),

Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

--On 8. Januar 2006 17:49:01 -0500 Jeff Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does the twice-annual release policy say about bugs and/or packaging errors that are identified and fixed within a very short time of the official release announcement? huh? I don't understand. Bugfixes will b

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

--On 8. Januar 2006 20:58:19 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-8 11:44 +0100: the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please hel

[Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

Hi all, the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please help to replace all outstanding code that uses the zLOG module on the _trunk_ (which is a fun job :-|). Thanks, Andreas pgplAWTe1565a.pgp D

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/2.9/ Move to ZODB 3.6 final.

--On 6. Januar 2006 10:49:29 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't like using tags in externals. Each time an external is changed to a tag, svn creates .OLD directories and gets a new version. It's a real hassle IMO. I _like_ tags in externals because they are self-documenting

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

--On 6. Januar 2006 19:55:56 +0900 TAHARA Yusei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've tried to the branch and I found a typo in zope.conf. I think default-zpublisher-encoding is a correct directive name. This is already fixed. By the way, I have a request related to this changes. If the root

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

--On 5. Januar 2006 21:12:08 +0100 Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> - allowing only unicode textual content when calling macros, PyScript etc. definitely not. I know that this is a hard requirement but it is an implicit requirement in Zope 3. - converting non-unicode to unicode in

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

--On 5. Januar 2006 17:36:45 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: ToDo: in-place conversion of persistent ZPT instance through setstate() or so... Could we avoid doing things in __setstate__ please? It imposes a runtime cost that doesn't disa

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

--On 5. Januar 2006 12:47:20 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As you might know I worked on the integration of the Zope 3 ZPT implementation for Zope 2.10. Before commiting the changes to the trunk I would like discuss my approach for Zope 2.10 I forgot to mention a

[Zope-dev] [Zope 2.10] ZPT going Unicode

As you might know I worked on the integration of the Zope 3 ZPT implementation for Zope 2.10. Before commiting the changes to the trunk I would like discuss my approach for Zope 2.10 - the ZopePageTemplate and PageTemplateFile classes will be replaced with wrapper classes around correspondi

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

--On 4. Januar 2006 11:23:09 +0200 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: No. Imagine a PythonScript that returns a unicode string. The ZPublisher converts the unicode string to latin1 (zpublisher_default_encoding). Most browsers will default Latin1 when they

[Zope-dev] Re: Directory structure on svn.zope.org

--On 25. Dezember 2005 18:48:22 +0100 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: The top-level directory structure on svn.zope.org appears a bit messy to me. There we have the folders for the "large" projects CMF, Zope, Zope3 and lots modul

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [ANN] Zope 2.9.0 beta 2 released

--On 26. Dezember 2005 14:49:07 -0500 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: on behalf of Zope Corporation and the Zope community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.9.0 beta 2 (the x-mas release) Than

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

--On 23. Dezember 2005 19:28:52 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The HTTP spec says that a http server *can* set the charset to make the encoding of the payload clear. That's what we are doing now. Not specifying the charset means for the browser: *guessing* the encoding which m

Re: [Zope-dev] Main repository on svn.zope.org now with fsfs backend

--On 25. Dezember 2005 12:48:38 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, Just got finished migrating the main repository on svn.zope.org away from the old BDB backend to a FSFS backend. Some quick tests show me that everything seems to be in order, including sending of commit

[Zope-dev] Re: zope 2.9b2 and sessions

--On 23. Dezember 2005 12:06:06 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm in the middle of debugging important session machinery problems with the current zope 2.9 branch. (ReadConflictErrors happening when everything should be mvcc). Could the 2.9b2 release please hold until

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 22. Dezember 2005 12:44:23 -0330 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, if we simply suck sqlite in as a build time requirement (during the 'make' process) do we care about importing non-ZPL code into svn.zope.org? We would only care about licensing when distributing binaries tha

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)

--On 22. Dezember 2005 10:46:42 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do Java people expect from jar files (I ask as a Java dope)? Do they have a more limited scope (no dependencies, for example?) Jar files have no dependencies. -aj pgpKlIVHcdQM0.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 22. Dezember 2005 11:42:30 -0330 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you mentioned before about importing sqlite into svn.zope.org, you were talking about actually including a snapshot of sqlite inside zope source rather than making it a build time requirement? I really don't c

Re: [Zope-dev] Modifiying the bootstrap Data.fs?

--On 22. Dezember 2005 09:48:01 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK, there is no Data.fs.in file anymore and the "OFS.Application" logic creates all the objects it needs at startup time. Quickstart text is in lib/python/App/dtml/zope_quick_start.dtml (it's not read from Z

[Zope-dev] Zope Book 2.7 edition

Chris, what do you think about moving the current version of the ZB hosted on plope.com back on zope.org. The quickstart page of Zope still points to the 2.6 edition. I would like to get of the 2.6 edition and call it just "Zope Book" + the data of the last modification. Since we can not synch

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 22. Dezember 2005 15:20:27 +0100 robert rottermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I perfectly agree with both of these arguments. However having a "dead easy to use" RDBMS tool is very convenient. Both for teaching and marketing purposes. I agree (meanwhile) but we have to sort out the

[Zope-dev] Modifiying the bootstrap Data.fs?

Does anyone know how to modify the bootstrap Data.fs that is installed after a new Zope installation and how to modify the Zope Quickstart page? -aj pgpOQIS1FhaaI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.

Re: [Zope-dev] Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)

--On 22. Dezember 2005 09:09:02 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is this: do you think there should be an explicit "install" step for egg packages/Products or do you think it should be possible to just put eggs on your PYTHONPATH (and perhaps adjust a config

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 16:41:37 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Paul Winkler wrote: But I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying that in order to use Basket, my product can't call registerHelp()? Or are you saying that when installed via B

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 22. Dezember 2005 12:32:07 +0100 Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dont think we should inlcude more 3rd party products into zope core unless they are required for core funtionality. And a random database adaptor isnt really core functionality. Another point: with Zope 2.10

[Zope-dev] Directory structure on svn.zope.org

The top-level directory structure on svn.zope.org appears a bit messy to me. There we have the folders for the "large" projects CMF, Zope, Zope3 and lots modules that possibly don't belong there. Wouldn't it make sense to move them into a dedicated Zope3-modules folder (or choose another name)?

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-2.9 r40780 make install doesn't finish, files missing from bin

r --On 22. Dezember 2005 12:06:09 +0100 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Who has the knowledge and time to fix this? I think we need to have some philosophical agreement on what is going to be done before we figure out who has time to "fix" t

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 21. Dezember 2005 17:23:26 -0330 Rocky Burt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally I'd be a huge proponent of including SQLite in zope core. It is extraordinarilly functional and has few requirements. I particularly like using it to ensure unit tests against RDBMS connections work pro

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

--On 21. Dezember 2005 18:07:49 + Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How will Zope know when _not_ to add the content-type header? Makes no sense to me. Either the application set the content-type header or Zope does it for you. Check HTTPResponse.py. How will Zope tell if th

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-2.9 r40780 make install doesn't finish, files missing from bin

--On 21. Dezember 2005 19:35:35 + Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really think there is not a single good reason for having a different experience for checkouts vs tarballs. It would even lead to major annoyance where I work right now, just to give a real life example. For u

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 21. Dezember 2005 17:10:19 +0100 Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there is another practical way to do it, that would be fine too. I don't know about sqllite. But if it's more difficulte than dropping a package into a directory it would be bad. I mentioned to make it available as d

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 15:09:56 -0500 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - additional information and story telling should be done through doc tests For general "what is this / what does it do / how does it work" docs, I like that idea. But it doesn't help with filling out forms in the

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:27:18 -0500 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just to be clear, the stuff I'm talking about is ZMI user interface docs, not programmer docs. I'll raise the question again: what are the benefits of the HelpSys for a Zope user? I just clicked through the HelpS

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 13:32:02 -0500 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:24:32PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote: Maybe if we don't want to bundle them, we could host them in a versioned hierarchy on zope.org, like the way old versions of Python docs are always ava

Re: [Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 12:27:41 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In Zope 2.10 , Products packaged as Python Eggs will need either to drop support for helpsys stuff or the helpsys stuff will need to be revamped support files living in zipfiles. The former sounds saner to me

[Zope-dev] Re: [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

--On 20. Dezember 2005 14:05:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Gadfly(DA) - do we really need this? We discussed this already. In my opinion the purpose of Gadfly is only educational but nothing that one really needs or uses for production. It could be removed and m

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-2.9 r40780 make install doesn't finish, files missing from bin

--On 20. Dezember 2005 09:59:36 + Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I strongly disagree as well. I believe it is normal practice to grab a tag or branch tip from subversion and install that. Why would I ever grab some tarball when I'm at the command line already and use svn for

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.10: Wiki started

I created a wiki for the 2.10 development: Feel free to contribute and comment. Andreas pgpse6HSAzkQI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@

[Zope-dev] [RfC] Removal of old stuff in Zope 2.10

Hi, for next release we plan to replace several parts with the corresponding components from Zope 3 (e.g. ZPT´). Philipp is working on a proposal on that issue. In addition I would like to get rid of some old stuff that is no longer maintained and buggy: - ZopeTutorial (could be ripped off

Re: [Zope-dev] RFV: Unicode in Zope 2

--On 9. Dezember 2005 10:11:42 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot a very important need: - Common approach to Unicode We need to migrate Zope 2 to use a similar strategy. We need volunteers to brainstorm how this can be done and make one or more proposals. This is likel

[Zope-dev] ZPublisher, ZPT and XHTML

Another usecase where Zope does not play nicely: You can create a ZPT with XHTML content where the content is encoded as UTF-8 (which the corresponding encoding declaration within the XML preamble). When you redefine the zpublisher_default_encoding Zope might convert the UTF8 body of the ZPT to s

[Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

The following usecase is not handled correctly by Zope: When you call a PythonScript returning a Python unicode string then the ZPublisher/HTTPResponse code will convert the unicode response string using HTTPResponse.default_encoding to a Python string. The default encoding is configurable throu

[Zope-dev] svn.zope.org borked

I get always "connection closed unexpectedly" when using svn update. Andreas pgpFnXKQRqPEQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! *

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-2.9 r40780 make install doesn't finish, files missing from bin

--On 18. Dezember 2005 10:40:32 +0100 "Stefan H. Holek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "make install" does currently not work on 2.9 branch and trunk. I am told that this is because "zpkg cannot do it". I am also told that the tarball would support make install, just not the checkout. I never

Re: [Zope-dev] FTP Upload killing Zope

I would like to consider the 2.7 branch closed for any kind of fixes except security related fixes. I don't plan any further 2.7 releases. -aj --On 15. Dezember 2005 21:53:38 -0500 Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looks good! On Dec 15, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote:

Re: [Zope-dev] RFV: Unicode in Zope 2

--On 15. Dezember 2005 17:55:16 +0100 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hm, so it auto-decodes non-unicode strings using UTF-8? That's a bit dangerous, as you suppress a large class of unicode errors in the code. Code that creates UTF-8 strings will be silently accepted. Not as bad as

Re: [Zope-dev] RFV: Unicode in Zope 2

--On 9. Dezember 2005 10:11:42 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We need to migrate Zope 2 to use a similar strategy. We need volunteers to brainstorm how this can be done and make one or more proposals. This is likely a prerequisite for finishing the publisher and ZPT work. My

[Zope-dev] Deprecating OFS.content_types

Hi, Z2 and Z3 have a module content_types (where the Z3 implementation is an outdated copy from the Z2 tree). Over the weekend I move the current Z2 implementation from the Z2 trunk into the Z3 trunk and added aliases for the Z2 implementation (and fixes some broken tests that obviously never

Re: [Zope-dev] "make test" fails on 2.9.0-b1?

The build process changed in 2.9. Perhaps "make inplace; make test" should work. -aj --On 11. Dezember 2005 22:43:02 -0500 Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for redundancy if this is a known problem, but I just now grabbed the 2.9.0-b1 tarball and noticed this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] New ways of getting transactions?

--On 11. Dezember 2005 12:28:04 -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan H. Holek wrote: import transaction transaction.get() transaction.commit() transaction.abort() transaction.savepoint() This works since 2.8, but not in 2.7. Nearly every project has come up with its own backwa

Re: [Zope-dev] New ways of getting transactions?

--On 11. Dezember 2005 17:01:56 +0100 "Morten W. Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm having some code that bombs out trying to commit a transaction; I believe it's because of new ways of doing things in Zope 2.9.. how do you call the equivalents of get_transaction().commit() and

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPT] Zope 3 ZPTs in Zope 2

--On 11. Dezember 2005 13:42:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there different object-attributes in both classes? If not, you could simple replace with the same old class name. The Z3 ZPT implementation seems to use the same attrs. So I could just replace the class im

[Zope-dev] [ZPT] Zope 3 ZPTs in Zope 2

Hi, I have a working implementation for Zope 3 ZPTs within Zope 2. It is currently implemented through a new class ZPT which implements the same functionality as Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate. I am currently thinking about the migration to the new implementation. Would it be possible

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 b1 coming

--On 5. Dezember 2005 16:10:11 +0100 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to let you know: Zope 2.9 b1 will be released together with Zope 3.2 b1 this Wednesday..so the last changes and fixes should be done until Wednesday morning. We will release 2.9 earlier. Jim is go

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