[FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Animal Life Forms on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Could rocks have life and move on their own? It's the same rock just from a slightly different angle. To answer the question: Rocks can't be seen as being alive because if you take them apart to their component molecules you can put them back in any order you like and they are still rocks. Take you, me or any living thing apart and there is only one way (or very few) that you could rebuild us so we are still living things, let alone the same as we are now. http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com
[FairfieldLife] 14 Things You Need to Know to Talk About Transcendental Meditation
Enlarge icon Pinterest icon http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnymag.com%2Fthecut%2F2014%2F10%2F14-things-you-need-to-know-to-talk-about-tm.htmldescription=14%20Things%20You%20Need%20to%20Know%20to%20Talk%20About%20TMmedia=%2F%2Fpixel.nymag.com%2Fimgs%2Ffashion%2Fdaily%2F2014%2F10%2F07%2F07-transcendental-meditation-beatles-maharishi-mahesh.w715.h476.2x.jpg Close icon Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty Images Transcendental Meditation is having a moment. After making a big splash in the peace ’n’ love era, it largely faded from view, but now everyone from Lena Dunham http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/lena-dunham-meditation_n_4070030.html and Lykke Li http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9392-lykke-li-better-off-alone/ to Oprah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP8FZgo1YFQ and Dr. Oz http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/oz-transcendental-meditation is into it. David Lynch has had a foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ dedicated to it since 2005, and earlier this year Jim Carrey’s commencement address http://www.openculture.com/2014/06/jim-carrey-its-better-to-fail-at-what-you-love-than-at-what-you-dont.html at a TM university went viral. 14 Things You Need to Know to Talk About Transcendental Meditation http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/14-things-you-need-to-know-to-talk-about-tm.html?n_play=54392680e4b0cfe1c8d0cd90 http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/14-things-you-need-to-know-to-talk-about-tm.html?n_play=54392680e4b0cfe1c8d0cd90 14 Things You Need to Know to Talk About Transcendent... http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/14-things-you-need-to-know-to-talk-about-tm.html?n_play=54392680e4b0cfe1c8d0cd90 Yes, you need a mantra. View on nymag.com http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/10/14-things-you-need-to-know-to-talk-about-tm.html?n_play=54392680e4b0cfe1c8d0cd90 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. Or appealing to people who still think that Maharishi's name means something...anything. Let's face it...anyone who believes that anything that old con man Mahesh ever said -- alive or dead -- was worth paying attention to is kinda beyond saving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly? I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: That's always amused me, too. It's even more of an obvious lie than the TM teachers who claimed (and continue to claim) that TM is not religious after learning exactly what the TM puja means and who it is they and their students are bowing down to every time they teach.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Very violent but a great Luc Besson film. I saw a couple months back in the nearby theater. I wouldn't go so far as to call it great, and didn't back when we discussed it here earlier. It was a pretty normal movie these days from Luc Besson, who is so bloody BUSY being the biggest producer of films in Europe (director of 21 films or TV series, producer of 116, and writer of 56) that he can't always be relied on to do his best with all of them. :-) As for those who've never seen the film talking about whether the humans use only 10% of their brains metaphor is correct, that's just silly. The film is fiction, and it's a metaphor. Those who really don't *get* fiction could just as have just as meaningless a debate about whether giant white whales really exist when discussing Moby Dick. :-) Anyway, I agree with Bhairitu that the level of violence might be too much for some here, but here's the car chase scene, which is a wonderful combination of real stunt driving and CGI, and should be an utter delight for anyone who knows Paris well: Lucy Movie CLIP - Paris (2014) - Scarlett Johansson Action Movie HD On 10/12/2014 12:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Are you sure, it looks a bit violent for sidhas ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansso... Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Like us on FACEBOOK: http://goo.gl/dHs73 Follo... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Get A Checking And Do As These Successful People:
Here you will find a list of celebrities and famous people who meditate at least once or twice a day. Famous people who meditate: Transcendental Meditation celebrities - TMhome http://tmhome.com/experiences/famous-people-who-meditate/#.VDpOybB4lPI.facebook http://tmhome.com/experiences/famous-people-who-meditate/#.VDpOybB4lPI.facebook Famous people who meditate: Transcendental Meditation ... http://tmhome.com/experiences/famous-people-who-meditate/#.VDpOybB4lPI.facebook Fascinating list of 40 famous people who meditate daily. WHY DO THE CELEBRITIES DO IT...!? They say it transforms life! Read quotes, watch vid... View on tmhome.com http://tmhome.com/experiences/famous-people-who-meditate/#.VDpOybB4lPI.facebook Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] EPA to Approve Dow's New GMOs Crops - Take a Stand!
BREAKING: Sources close to the administration have confirmed that the EPA is set to approve Dow Chemical's new 2,4-D Agent Orange GMO crops as early as tomorrow! Now the chemical arms race is about to explode on your plate with the biotech industry spraying more toxic chemicals on our food - and we need your help to stop it! To overcome the failure of Monsanto's Roundup Ready GMO crops and the rise of 70 million acres of superweeds, Dow Chemical is seeking the approval of new Enlist Duo GMO Agent Orange corn and soy to tolerate 2,4-D, a main chemical component of the Vietnam era defoliant linked to birth defects, cancer, and hormone disruption, and glyphosate, the main chemical in Monsanto's best selling weedkiller Roundup. These facts have greatly alarmed scientists and farmers alike, leading a former top Reagan USDA official to declare 2,4-D one of “the most dangerous chemicals out there.” Tell President Obama to Reject Dow’s Dangerous New Enlist Agent Orange GMOs! A copy of this petition will be delivered to the White House: Docket No. EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0195-0427 Docket No. EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0195-0427 Docket No. EPA-HQ-OPP-2014-0195-0427 Dear President Obama, I urge you to step in and stop Dow Chemical’s 2,4-D resistant genetically engineered (GE) corn and soybeans, and the toxic herbicide mixture they rely on, Enlist Duo. USDA approved these risky crops last month despite half a million public comments, letters from scientists and health care professionals, and even a letter from 60 members of Congress in opposition. EPA is about to follow suit and approve Dow’s new 2,4-D-glyphosate herbicide mix intended for use on these GE crops. If you allow EPA to approve this herbicide mix, tens of millions of pounds more 2,4-D will be sprayed on these new crops. 2,4-D would contaminate our food, water and atmosphere. Medical scientists have found that 2,4-D exposure is associated with higher rates of cancer, Parkinson’s disease, and reproductive problems. Dow’s 2,4-D resistant crops and 2,4-D herbicide mix pose a grave threat to our nation’s agricultural, environmental, and human health. I urge you to stop the approval of Enlist Duo herbicide and reverse USDA’s approval of 2,4-D-resistant corn and soybeans. Sincerely, [Your Name]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Get A Checking And Do As These Successful People:
They left out Stephen Collins - he's still a celebrity of sorts. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Get A Checking And Do As These Successful People: Here you will find a list of celebrities and famous people who meditate at least once or twice a day. Famous people who meditate: Transcendental Meditation celebrities - TMhome Famous people who meditate: Transcendental Meditation ... Fascinating list of 40 famous people who meditate daily. WHY DO THE CELEBRITIES DO IT...!? They say it transforms life! Read quotes, watch vid... View on tmhome.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Art from the beginning of History
Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 The discovery of 40,000-year-old artworks in Indonesian caves challenges established views on the origins of humans' artistic capabilities. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
I'm sure you'll have your hand out. Gimme! Gimme! And we can watch you, declaring how you are doing this strictly in the public interest! Sad isn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
I'm willing to join that class action suit! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly? I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:32 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview. I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30
Yes, and towards at least some objectivity in reporting I should hope that at least some people with current valid Dome badges could go and then report to us their observations. Would also be really good too if we could get a spectrum of reporting from both Re-certified TM teachers and old retired TM teachers who have effectively been Decertified to from teaching TM to give their reports independently. It simply would not be enough to just have someone from the Washington Post review the presentation. Most all the outside journalists never really get the nuance and miss entirely the back-stories to what really is going on. And of course obviously that local guy there who plays the banjo on the streets, corners and subways just because he lives close to the venue is way too biased to objectively report to us all. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome nablusoss1008 writes: It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. LEnglish5@... wrote : If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview. I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview. I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
I received my TM-Siddhis Program, as the result of a work-study program in 1979/80 - Worked a year, got the siddhis, after six months. No cash paid. Had very good results with the so called flying technique, and enjoyed it for many, many years. There was never a contractual obligation on the TMO's part, for any guaranteed results. I personally found the techniques to be quite powerful, so much so, that I stopped the conscious practice of the sutras, about twenty years ago, in order to focus on career and family. Now that I live a quieter, less scheduled life, I may begin them again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30
you don't have to go - you can watch the live streaming for free From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30 Yes, and towards at least some objectivity in reporting I should hope that at least some people with current valid Dome badges could go and then report to us their observations. Would also be really good too if we could get a spectrum of reporting from both Re-certified TM teachers and old retired TM teachers who have effectively been Decertified to from teaching TM to give their reports independently. It simply would not be enough to just have someone from the Washington Post review the presentation. Most all the outside journalists never really get the nuance and miss entirely the back-stories to what really is going on. And of course obviously that local guy there who plays the banjo on the streets, corners and subways just because he lives close to the venue is way too biased to objectively report to us all. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome nablusoss1008 writes: It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. LEnglish5@... wrote : If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Time to ditch Columbus Day?
Wow - I am glad this is being published. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Why do we celebrate this creep anyway? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:32 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30
Doug (Buck) would rather just bitch about what he imagines being said than find out. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30 you don't have to go - you can watch the live streaming for free From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30 Yes, and towards at least some objectivity in reporting I should hope that at least some people with current valid Dome badges could go and then report to us their observations. Would also be really good too if we could get a spectrum of reporting from both Re-certified TM teachers and old retired TM teachers who have effectively been Decertified to from teaching TM to give their reports independently. It simply would not be enough to just have someone from the Washington Post review the presentation. Most all the outside journalists never really get the nuance and miss entirely the back-stories to what really is going on. And of course obviously that local guy there who plays the banjo on the streets, corners and subways just because he lives close to the venue is way too biased to objectively report to us all. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome nablusoss1008 writes: It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. LEnglish5@... wrote : If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30
No, Video is never the same as being there. Would be nice to hear afterwards the gestalt from someone who was present in the flesh to take it in with the five senses.. mjackson74@.. wrote : you don't have to go - you can watch the live streaming for free Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30 Yes, and towards at least some objectivity in reporting I should hope that at least some people with current valid Dome badges could go and then report to us their observations. Would also be really good too if we could get a spectrum of reporting from both Re-certified TM teachers and old retired TM teachers who have effectively been De-certified from teaching TM to give their reports independently. It simply would not be enough to just have someone from the Washington Post review the presentation. Most all the outside journalists never really get the nuance and miss entirely the back-stories to what really is going on. And of course obviously that local guy there who plays the banjo on the streets, corners and subways just because he lives close to the venue is way too biased to objectively report to us all here. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome nablusoss1008 writes: It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. LEnglish5@... wrote : If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Very funny Sal, I love the expression earn(ing) a decent crust. You have the potential to write some blow-us-out-of-the-water parodies. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 The discovery of 40,000-year-old artworks in Indonesian caves challenges established views on the origins of humans' artistic capabilities. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Preview by Yahoo Very cool. And also, every hand outlined was a left hand indicating the artist was right handed or, if there were more than one hand depicted, many of the artists were right handed. Some things don't change.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Hammond's Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, and towards at least some objectivity in reporting I should hope that at least some people with current valid Dome badges could go and then report to us their observations. Would also be really good too if we could get a spectrum of reporting from both Re-certified TM teachers and old retired TM teachers who have effectively been Decertified to from teaching TM to give their reports independently. It simply would not be enough to just have someone from the Washington Post review the presentation. Most all the outside journalists never really get the nuance and miss entirely the back-stories to what really is going on. And of course obviously that local guy there who plays the banjo on the streets, corners and subways just because he lives close to the venue is way too biased to objectively report to us all. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome Livestreaming is the answer Buck. I can pretty much guarantee that 90% of the people at FFL will be watching online. Guess what the subject will be from Dec. 1 onward for a good few days will, no doubt, be? nablusoss1008 writes: It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. LEnglish5@... wrote : If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview. I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. Progress can occur within a movement or group while the group still persists and exists. It is not necessarily an all or nothing thing (and I'm not speaking about the TM Movement. I only know anything about that from what I read here and am not, essentially interested one way or another if it remains or if it evolves its way into something else completely). Everything changes whether one is aware of it or not. Certain core beliefs may remain the same in whatever religion, corporation or spiritual movement you look at but lots of other things are changing all the time like who are members, who leaves who joins, who is the leader where they are located or spreading to. These are all small but significant changes and movements within the movement and they will ultimately spill over into a larger shift or change. There is no such thing as stasis in the physical world - ask Salyavin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/12/2014 9:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. /This is great news! Due to the out-of-court settlement with Red Bull you may be entitled to a $10 refund because you didn't get any wings after consuming your drink. With the money you receive you can purchase another Red Bull drink, although now the price will probably have doubled for each can. Good work, you dumb shits./ /A Cafe Mocha at Starbucks costs $4.45 and a Red Bull at Walgreen is $1.99.//Go figure./ Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. Are they? Is it possible that anyone is taking this seriously beyond the fact that a few here are just dying to be able to talk about all of it on Dec 1 here at FFL? I think the Movement Mockers are getting the most mileage out of this so far that I can see but then, I'm not in FF. What are the feelings there of the people you know and talk to, Feste? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to ditch Columbus Day?
Just wondering if Eric Kasum would have been born had there been no Columbus, much less have his education, wealth,freedom to pursue his hearts desire, and all the leisure time he seems to have to think and write about peace and justice. Columbus was a man of his *time* as is Eric Kasum. Kasum judges Columbus based on what are normal values today, not what reality was then. Kasum compares Columbus to the peaceful Arawak Indians, not the blood thirsty Mayan or Aztecs, go figure(sorry willie).We don't celebrate Christopher Columbus for his personality but what his contribution has done for mankind. Columbus's accidental discovery lead to further exploration and development that has given us what we have and are today. Thank you Chris! On Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:24 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do we celebrate this creep anyway? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/12/2014 9:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? For the record, only a few informants have posted witnessing claims to a levitation event - nobody has claimed the ability to actually levitate. /A red herring is a statement that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting. Often used to refer to something that misleads or distracts from the relevant or important issues./ P.S. You are supposed to read the messages posted here BEFORE you ask redundant questions. /He didn't teach how to do this stuff directly; he just did it. //As far as I know, none of his students ever developed the //knack./ - TurquoiseB http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Like I said before, it is Jerry Jarvis' stamp of approval that is giving this event legitimacy in the eyes of many old time TM'ers - not to mention the penchant of TM'ers to believe unbelievable bullshit - that helps too. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
On 10/13/2014 8:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Very funny Sal, I love the expression earn(ing) a decent crust. You have the potential to write some blow-us-out-of-the-water parodies. /It has already been established by MJ that there is no money to be earned baking a descent crust for the TMO - anyone who would fall for that is a dupe. What the respondents need to do is get a job and get off welfare. It's not complicated. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. On 10/13/2014 8:37 AM, salyavin808 wrote: How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! /Only a dupe would think that they could levitate just from reading a poster on the wall. To try and fly for over ten years with no perceived benefit is just plain dumb./ /Or, maybe the problem was something you're not telling us about. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 9:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. /This must be really embarrassing for you. It has already been established that Sal is a dupe for believing he could levitate, so nobody could expect a reasonable comment from him.//Obviously you are a dupe as well, based on your posting history to FFL. Obviously neither you nor Sal is capable of common sense, let alone understanding the mechanics of consciousness. I sometimes wonder if you two are dealing with a full deck. //Have either of you ever considered getting professional help for your cognitive-dissonance?/ *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England *From:* anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split.*Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
salyavin, let's put it this way: I was pretty coordinated as a sport playing kid and teen and that level of coordination hasn't deteriorated much in 50 years. Also, I notice that I often feel graceful in my actions, even if it's something simply like walking. And definitely less mind chatter! On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:37 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:32 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I might add, Nabby, that if either of us is doing something to harm the Movement, it’s you. As others have pointed out, your behavior sets a very bad example as to the effect on one’s personality one might expect decades of TM practice to produce. I hope that by contrast, I come across as fairly balanced and objective. At least I strive to be, but you continue to wallow in your cultish mindset.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. It's a good question, there are a few teaching in various places, The Meditation Trust is probably the best known as they were the guys who quit when Marshy put the price up so high it put them out of business. They have a few centres and hold courses in a country house where they teach the TMSP too. The TM official are always taking legal action against them but there isn't much they can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy. I know people who go on their courses, they always tell me that I musn't mention it to people in the movement, which says it all about the TMO really. The same guy was telling me that someone asked him if it was true that people get brainwashed in the TMO, he said of course not. Anyway, they seem to be doing well and actually making money out of it which is the TM teachers dream, but then they don't have to give half to the TMO. Bad feelings about that too I shouldn't wonder. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
Never tried Red Bull except for their natural cola which is very good and has real cola nut in it instead of artificial flavors. I might have a problem with a class action suit over an obviously absurd and mainly metaphoric claim that Red Bull gives you wings. Did Red Bull start the class action themselves. It might be cheaper to pay $13 million than more for an ad campaign. When I cut the cable I got Hulu+ (first month free) to keep up with any broadcast TV shows worth watching. When I had cable I would DVR shows and then use the 30 second skip button to skip ads. With Hulu you get ads too but the breaks are usually shorter though ABC and FOX seem to be booking longer breaks there. There is no 30 skip button for Hulu+ so I just hit the mute button and don't watch. There's hardly anything there I would be interested in buying anyway. But turning the sound off makes the ads look even more insipid. I think the ad agencies need to turn the sound off just to realize how bad their ads are these days. I didn't do the TM-Sidhi program to learn to fly. If it was just that well guess what? I was hopping before I got that sutra. A bunch of us who were being naughty and reading Muktananda's books at the time for some reason started hopping during meditations at home. So when I got the flying sutra it was merely time to officially fly. Bet there are a few others here who had the same experience. In fact the other person who flew immediately admitted to me that he had been hopping before the course. Can we levitate. Probably (now some heads are going to start frittering). My tantra guru told me had floated saying he felt something odd and opened his eyes to find himself off the ground a bit and not using any specific sutra. There is the supernatural and there are things human beings don't understand yet. Oh and I'm no athlete and never felt any effort in flying even with several foot high hops. On 10/12/2014 07:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to ditch Columbus Day?
Apparently the Vikings and off course India sailors discovered the earth wasn't flat either and way before Columbus. On 10/13/2014 07:15 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Just wondering if Eric Kasum would have been born had there been no Columbus, much less have his education, wealth,freedom to pursue his hearts desire, and all the leisure time he seems to have to think and write about peace and justice. Columbus was a man of his *time* as is Eric Kasum. Kasum judges Columbus based on what are normal values today, not what reality was then. Kasum compares Columbus to the peaceful Arawak Indians, not the blood thirsty Mayan or Aztecs, go figure(sorry willie).We don't celebrate Christopher Columbus for his personality but what his contribution has done for mankind. Columbus's accidental discovery lead to further exploration and development that has given us what we have and are today. Thank you Chris! On Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:24 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do we celebrate this creep anyway? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. While I agree that the whole scenario is too silly for words, what does it say about the incredible gullibility and susceptibility of TMers *that* it's being taken seriously? In what other group would its members actually fall for this? What other group would proactively attempt to squelch it, as Raja (that's ludicrous in itself) Hagelin did? This is great theater. I hope *some* reporters actually attend, and write it up or do a TV bit about it. Can't you just imagine the headline/teaser? Leaders Of TM Cult Freak Out Over Advice From Beyond The Grave Sent By Original Sexy Sadie Guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Painted caves challenge art origins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 The discovery of 40,000-year-old artworks in Indonesian caves challenges established views on the origins of humans' artistic capabilities. View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29415716 Preview by Yahoo Very cool. And also, every hand outlined was a left hand indicating the artist was right handed or, if there were more than one hand depicted, many of the artists were right handed. Some things don't change. Well spotted, I wonder when that arose in humanity, and why? Ice age art is my favourite thing, I went to a show at the British Museum called The arrival of the modern mind because all the works there showed that our distant ancestors had the same capacity for mental abstraction, metaphor and representation. It's like the complexity of modern art appeared fully formed one day and we just set about painting. I posted this the other day, it really is well worth a look if you like this sort of thing: Cave_of_forgotten_dreams http://vimeo.com/32371643 http://vimeo.com/32371643 Cave_of_forgotten_dreams http://vimeo.com/32371643 Prepare to be shocked. 30,000 years old art. View on vimeo.com http://vimeo.com/32371643 Preview by Yahoo There are odd things here though, the fact the cave was in use for 20,000 years makes me wonder why there are so few pictures on the walls, in one place you see a row of galloping horses and some of them were painted many thousands of years apart. That's like the people who built Stonehenge putting the stones up and leaving it for all that time and then me going along and finishing it yesterday. Why did they go in so infrequently? They obviously didn't live in the cave, did so many generations really pass before another painting was done? So many questions, and we can only guess at the answers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? Yes, many of whom benefit tremendously from it, as I have. It’s not all “lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics”. There are many good people who are not guilty of that stuff, and there is probably a power struggle within the movement between them and those who are. _ From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
I'm curious, how would you feel about TM if it was today only $125 and maybe taught over a weekend workshop? Or maybe even the first technique free? What bothers you more the money or the supposed link to 'Hinduism'? On 10/13/2014 09:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? *From:* 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM *Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *nablusoss1008 *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
But one man's cultish nonsense is another man's profoundly spiritual insight... People assume that MMY could never do wrong, and so they always went with his program/project/practice _du jour_ Others assume that when MMY came up something they perceived as off-the-wall, it meant he had gone off teh deep end. My own take is that MMY never had a clue when something was going to work or not until he tried it, and the stuff that stuck to the wall, is the stuff that he embraced as valid. In every case (stick-able or not) he had to find an intellectual reason for why he suggested something, and so he made something up to explain things. Sometimes those reasons sounded plausible and sometimes they didn't. Sometimes something he did turned out to be very good, even though he had no idea why it was very good. Example of this last: the Rajas and their golden crowns. Totally crazy, and yet, the schism that resulted occurred BEFORE his death and not after. By the time he died, everywhere in the world outside of India, the TM organization had already restructured itself to work with the new hierarchy of Those Who Wear Crowns, while those who couldn't deal with such craziness had already left. The result was an almost drama-less succession for Good King Tony (outside of India). Brilliant... even though I'm almost positive that MMY hadn't really thought of things that way. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
The Meditation Trust also offers TM teacher training these days, and implies that they are doing the work that MMY authorized them to do, despite him rescinding that authorization quite publicly and in completely explicit terms. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. It's a good question, there are a few teaching in various places, The Meditation Trust is probably the best known as they were the guys who quit when Marshy put the price up so high it put them out of business. They have a few centres and hold courses in a country house where they teach the TMSP too. The TM official are always taking legal action against them but there isn't much they can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy. I know people who go on their courses, they always tell me that I musn't mention it to people in the movement, which says it all about the TMO really. The same guy was telling me that someone asked him if it was true that people get brainwashed in the TMO, he said of course not. Anyway, they seem to be doing well and actually making money out of it which is the TM teachers dream, but then they don't have to give half to the TMO. Bad feelings about that too I shouldn't wonder. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
What's interesting about your Sexy Sadie comment is that a while back you commented that you were quite amazed that any woman was claiming to have sex with MMY as your personal observation was that he had no sexuality to speak of. Once it became clear that you could get specific people mad by referring to the claims, you started to embrace them, without ever explaining why you came to change your mind about MMY's sexual activities or lack thereof. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. While I agree that the whole scenario is too silly for words, what does it say about the incredible gullibility and susceptibility of TMers *that* it's being taken seriously? In what other group would its members actually fall for this? What other group would proactively attempt to squelch it, as Raja (that's ludicrous in itself) Hagelin did? This is great theater. I hope *some* reporters actually attend, and write it up or do a TV bit about it. Can't you just imagine the headline/teaser? Leaders Of TM Cult Freak Out Over Advice From Beyond The Grave Sent By Original Sexy Sadie Guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
If you can manage to do what I did -- see this movie without spoilers, and without any real idea of what to expect -- it's really quite an E-ticket ride. My hat is off first to novel and screenplay author Gillian Flynn, who managed to actually come up with an original idea...that's a real rarity these days. Next hat-tip is to David Fincher, for bringing it to the screen effectively, and in such a way that you almost feel as if you're watching a succession of short movies rather than just one long one. You start in one plot reality, and then twenty minutes later you're in another, and then another, all the way through. Fincher did that with Se7en and Fight Club, of course, but it's just as effective a technique here. Ben Affleck always tends to leave me feeling Meh! about his performances, and did so again in this movie, but that may be purely a preference thang on my part. He just doesn't do it for me, but I can see how people who like him will love him in this role. So it's really Rosamund Pike's movie. She drops into the ever-changing reality of this plot like she was born to it. Whoever she is called upon by the script to be in that moment, that's who she is. She never telegraphs anything from any of the other realities or points of view. I think she won herself a Best Acting Oscar in this movie. I liked it. I'm thinking of going to see it tonight in an actual theater, instead of rewatching the small-screen DVD-quality screener version I saw earlier. Coming from a pirate, that's a pretty high recommendation for a movie, :-) Here's a trailer, and a pretty good one because it manages to give away almost nothing. Gone Girl - Official Trailer (2014) HD Gone Girl - Official Trailer (2014) HD View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
When I learned the TM-Sidhis in 1984, I had to write out, in long-hand, a paragraph dictated to me over the phone from the TM-SIdhis course office, saying that I understood that the TM-Sidhis were for the development of consciousness, and that I understood that no-one was guaranteeing I was going to obtain any kind of special power. Then I had to sign it, date it, and mail it back to them. THEN they would accept me on the TM-Sidhis course. Anyone who learned after doing that has no defensible way to sue on those grounds, I suspect, and of course, that was the point. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, let's put it this way: I was pretty coordinated as a sport playing kid and teen and that level of coordination hasn't deteriorated much in 50 years. Also, I notice that I often feel graceful in my actions, even if it's something simply like walking. And definitely less mind chatter! On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:37 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:32 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Maybe we are splitting hairs here but you yourself offered the opinion that the Movement needed to purge itself of cultish nonsense. I agree that not ALL the things the Movement says about TM is a lie, but a good deal of it is stretching the truth if not an out right lie. Sal summed it up by referring to TM as a gateway drug. You know good and well the Movement leaders want everyone who does TM to swallow it whole hog, get into yagyas, ayurveda over western medicine, buy vedic observatory models and all the rest. If you can see the Movement doing good when they for example offer to do a national yagya for England to prevent more flooding and storms AFTER the rainy season was over and AFTER they asked for and collected $100,000 to do the yagya when the pundits were already living in TM facilites and knew how to do the yagya already, if you see this as evidence of the kind of behavior TM creates or that it is doing good, you have a way different idea of what doing good in the world is. I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? Yes, many of whom benefit tremendously from it, as I have. It’s not all “lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics”. There are many good people who are not guilty of that stuff, and there is probably a power struggle within the movement between them and those who are. From:'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to ditch Columbus Day?
There were a lot of people that knew the earth wasn't flat at that time and even earlier. Education was not for the common man at that time. People struggled to just have enough to eat and a roof over their heads. Not a lot of time for anything else, much less ponder the shape of the earth or the orbit of the planets. I'm not quite sure it's fair to judge people from the past by the standards we set for our selves. We have an awful lot going for us today. It's kind of interesting to note that in Daniel's prophecy, that the end of times(change of the age) would be marked by a great increase of knowledge and the *coming and going*(travel) of people. On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:14 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Apparently the Vikings and off course India sailors discovered the earth wasn't flat either and way before Columbus. On 10/13/2014 07:15 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Just wondering if Eric Kasum would have been born had there been no Columbus, much less have his education, wealth,freedom to pursue his hearts desire, and all the leisure time he seems to have to think and write about peace and justice. Columbus was a man of his *time* as is Eric Kasum. Kasum judges Columbus based on what are normal values today, not what reality was then. Kasum compares Columbus to the peaceful Arawak Indians, not the blood thirsty Mayan or Aztecs, go figure(sorry willie).We don't celebrate Christopher Columbus for his personality but what his contribution has done for mankind. Columbus's accidental discovery lead to further exploration and development that has given us what we have and are today. Thank you Chris! On Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:24 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do we celebrate this creep anyway? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
It's the same crew that accepts as valid the claim that MMY appeared to the woman in her dreams and begged her to publish her tell all book. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Like I said before, it is Jerry Jarvis' stamp of approval that is giving this event legitimacy in the eyes of many old time TM'ers - not to mention the penchant of TM'ers to believe unbelievable bullshit - that helps too. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free seat, Live Stream it, or to watch the recording afterwards: www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you can manage to do what I did -- see this movie without spoilers, and without any real idea of what to expect -- it's really quite an E-ticket ride. /You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you post your review of the movie version. Where is Judy when we need her?/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
over the past 9 years, the DLF claims that they have taught 500,000 kids to meditate for free. In 2012, all of 8,000 adults in the USA learned TM, paying some portion of the full fee while with kids, the lion's share of the fee went straight to the TM teachers. It's not a 50-50 thing as with the adult fee, but more like an 80-20 or even 90-10 split, when kids are taught. This suggests that, unless you think that they're planning on huge revenues 20 years from now from all the kids who learned TM at school, that teh TM organization exists primarily to teach TM, not to make money for its own sake. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I liked it. I'm thinking of going to see it tonight in an actual theater, instead of rewatching the small-screen DVD-quality screener version I saw earlier. Coming from a pirate, that's a pretty high recommendation for a movie, :-) /Why bother? You already spoiled the movie version by watching it on your laptop computer using ear buds and you apparently didn't read the book. Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you can manage to do what I did -- see this movie without spoilers, and without any real idea of what to expect -- it's really quite an E-ticket ride. You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you post your review of the movie version. Where is Judy when we need her? I already read the book so am going to see The Judge today instead.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
They, including Rick Archer, have several agendas the most urgent is to try to split up and weaken the TMO.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 They, including Rick Archer, have several agendas the most urgent is to try to split up and weaken the TMO. With friends like you Nabby, the TMO doesn’t need enemies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : When I learned the TM-Sidhis in 1984, I had to write out, in long-hand, a paragraph dictated to me over the phone from the TM-SIdhis course office, saying that I understood that the TM-Sidhis were for the development of consciousness, and that I understood that no-one was guaranteeing I was going to obtain any kind of special power. Then I had to sign it, date it, and mail it back to them. THEN they would accept me on the TM-Sidhis course. Anyone who learned after doing that has no defensible way to sue on those grounds, I suspect, and of course, that was the point. What, they told you it was for developing supernatural powers - see Patanjali and Marshy's TMSP teaching videos for further details - and then made you write a letter that you understood it wasn't! I didn't have to do that but I did have to sign a lengthy contract absolving them of any responsibility for any unforseen problems etc. I asked for a copy and they refused which renders it legally invalid which amused me as I didn't worry if I had to sue. But then I wasn't worried because I'd seen the physics of yogic flying lecture and knew it was all about gaining super powers even if they wouldn't admit it and was told by the TMO that almost everyone masters one or two of them. Funny thing is we all know it's rubbish really, I mean deep down, but they don;t do much to dissuade the newbies, the idea of consciousness being the unified field has to have some amazing use if that is really what you are experiencing and influencing - there isn't much point otherwise. If the TMSP is simply for personal development they'll have to admit the Maharishi Effect is nonsense at some point, that's if we follow this line of reasoning to it it's logical conclusion. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, let's put it this way: I was pretty coordinated as a sport playing kid and teen and that level of coordination hasn't deteriorated much in 50 years. Also, I notice that I often feel graceful in my actions, even if it's something simply like walking. And definitely less mind chatter! On Monday, October 13, 2014 8:37 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, you're partially right. I learned because of the prediction that mind body coordination would improve. For me that prediction has been spot on. And my first flight was pretty powerful, leading me to think that some profound transformation was occurring. I've known I'm no St Joseph Cupertino so haven't minded about no actual levitation. How do you know that your mind-body coordination has improved, anything in particular? I did it for ten years and can't say I noticed any changes anywhere! On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:32 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering! I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water! I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue is in the name) and they even publish scientific lectures about how it works to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too. Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert spluttering protests here: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Its the whole ball of wax. TM just doesn't measure up to the hype they make for it. It is a moderately effective meditation that many teachers say has a dropout rate of up to 90% in the first few months. It doesn't produce enlightened people, which is one of the reasons the Movement no longer advertises that it will lead to enlightenment. The practice often leads to mental/emotional problems, which is one of the downsides I think Rick is ignoring when he says the Movement is doing good in the world. I agree that some seem to benefit from it, but to see the entire effect, one has to look at the whole picture and to ignore those who have mental and emotional problems that even lead to suicide is to ignore the whole effect of TM on the population of the world. I don't know of other meditations that can lead to the unstressing you have with TM. In addition the absurd mental states the Movement actively encourages that Sal has commented on leads a lot of people to having major life problems with health, relationships and money. When you encourage people to believe whatever the Movement tells you, when they claim a man has a cigarette addiction because he's a siddha and is self referral and expect you to believe it they are engaging in mind manipulation and really encouraging people to be psychotic or to put it more nicely teaching them to be mind numbed sheep holding their wallets out to the Movement. This is not doing good in the world. They love to sell TM by implying that if you do TM, you will be as successful as the celebrities they love to parade before the cameras on David Lynch fund raisers. They ignore the rough edges of some of them like Lynch, Brand and Stern. They absolutely ignore and hide from the enormities of people like Robin Carlsen, Andy Rhymer, Stephen Collins, Bloomfield, Wallace's ex-wife who shot a woman during program in Los Angeles, Shuvender Shem who murdered Levi Butler right in Annapurna dining hall at MUM. Let's look at the whole picture. I appreciate much Rick has done on many levels but I think he is still wearing blinders about Marshy and about the Movement. Let's look at the whole picture. Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. Look objectively at both sides, both camps and you have a picture of a meditation technique that taken in moderation and not expecting too much from it will yield positive results for some. When it is taught in the WAY MARSHY himself taught it and the way the Movement continues to teach it it is definitely doing damage to the world. Take out the lies, the bullshit and the Hindu superstitions and practices and its ok, otherwise not so ok. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I'm curious, how would you feel about TM if it was today only $125 and maybe taught over a weekend workshop? Or maybe even the first technique free? What bothers you more the money or the supposed link to 'Hinduism'? On 10/13/2014 09:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. While I agree that the whole scenario is too silly for words, what does it say about the incredible gullibility and susceptibility of TMers *that* it's being taken seriously? In what other group would its members actually fall for this? What other group would proactively attempt to squelch it, as Raja (that's ludicrous in itself) Hagelin did? This is great theater. I hope *some* reporters actually attend, and write it up or do a TV bit about it. Can't you just imagine the headline/teaser? This doesn't even begin to approach great theater. This is one of the funniest thing you have inadvertently ever written, bawee. Leaders Of TM Cult Freak Out Over Advice From Beyond The Grave Sent By Original Sexy Sadie Guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Rick, that has to be one of the best FFL comments EVER!! From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 They, including Rick Archer, have several agendas the most urgent is to try to split up and weaken the TMO. With friends like you Nabby, the TMO doesn’t need enemies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
I also find it interesting that many who still defend the Movement or think it is doing good or that TM itself is valuable don't actually teach TM anymore and in many cases don't even do TM anymore. That says more about the goodness of TM and its organization than anything else they can say about it. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I'm curious, how would you feel about TM if it was today only $125 and maybe taught over a weekend workshop? Or maybe even the first technique free? What bothers you more the money or the supposed link to 'Hinduism'? On 10/13/2014 09:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Jesus, Lawson of course they are counting on revenues coming from people they hope will become siddhas and lifetime Movement fanatics. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 over the past 9 years, the DLF claims that they have taught 500,000 kids to meditate for free. In 2012, all of 8,000 adults in the USA learned TM, paying some portion of the full fee while with kids, the lion's share of the fee went straight to the TM teachers. It's not a 50-50 thing as with the adult fee, but more like an 80-20 or even 90-10 split, when kids are taught. This suggests that, unless you think that they're planning on huge revenues 20 years from now from all the kids who learned TM at school, that teh TM organization exists primarily to teach TM, not to make money for its own sake. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/13/2014 12:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I liked it. I'm thinking of going to see it tonight in an actual theater, instead of rewatching the small-screen DVD-quality screener version I saw earlier. Coming from a pirate, that's a pretty high recommendation for a movie, :-) Why bother? You already spoiled the movie version by watching it on your laptop computer using ear buds and you apparently didn't read the book. Go figure. Probably because he has already developed a small crush on the lead actress and wants to see he in larger-than-life movie format. He tends to fall in love with fictional female characters.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:14 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely. /Don't be so quick to confirm an opinion as *absolute* - you've been influenced by suggestion before, remember? ///It has already been established that there's no money in TM - even if you are a TM teacher or a dish washer on staff. /It can be argued that it is not a TOTAL a waste of time to be a door guard for MMY or to bake some crusty bread for the president of MUM. On the contrary, for a narcissist in the pursuit or gratification from vanity you may have derived a certain amount of personal pride from such an endeavor. Case in point.// /
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
Nice article. 20,000 years ago at the peak of the last ice age, sea levels were 120 meters lower than today. Sea level was 400 feet lower then because huge ice caps two miles deep covered most of Europe and North America. But as the ice caps began to melt all the water stored in them returned to the oceans and sea-level rose, submerging many parts of the world where humans had previously lived. Thus Britain was joined to Europe during the Ice Age (there was no English Channel or North Sea). Likewise there was no Red Sea, no Persian Gulf, Sri Lanka was joined to southern India, Siberia was joined to Alaska, Australia was joined to New Guinea - and so on and so forth. It was during this epoch of sea-level rise, sometimes slow and continuous, sometimes rapid and cataclysmic, that the Ice Age continent of Sundaland was submerged with only the Malaysian Peninsula and the Indonesian islands as we know them today high enough to remain above water. The following map of 20,000 years ago shows Indonesia as part of the Asian mainland and almost Asia -- as well as significant continental land connections. And this provides insight as to why virtually all cultures have a Great Flood mythology / traditions. Coasts and rivers are often the hubs of civilizations and progress. How many civilizations and cultures for which we have no clue may have perished without a sign during the numerous dramatic rises and falls of oceans in the past 100,000-200,000 years since homo sapiens emerged? Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Marinexplore now provides elevation data at 1 arc-minute global relief model of Earth s surface from ETOPO1, integrating land topography and ocean bathymetry from ... View on blog.planetos.com http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Preview by Yahoo Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogeographyregion of Southeastern Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_shelf, the part of the Asian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia continental shelf that was exposed during the last ice age. The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago. It included the Malay Peninsula http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_Peninsula on the Asian mainland, as well as the large islands ofBorneo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo, Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(island), and Sumatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatra and their surrounding islands. The eastern boundary of Sundaland is the Wallace Line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line, identified byAlfred Russel Wallace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace as the eastern boundary of the range of Asia's land mammal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal fauna, and thus the boundary of theIndomalaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indomalaya and Australasia ecozones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia_ecozone. The islands east of the Wallace line are known as Wallacea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallacea, and are considered part of Australasia. Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical region of Southeastern Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf, the part of the Asian co... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Preview by Yahoo Some dating for the Gunung Padang Megalithic Site in the Sundaland region place it at 16,000 years old. Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Java Province of Indonesia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia, 50 km southwest of the city of Cianjur or 6 kilometers from Lampegan station. It is the largest megalithic site in all of Southeastern Asia. The survey believes that Gunung Padang is built in 4 different eras.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunung_Padang_Megalithic_Site#cite_note-1 Located at 885 metres above sea level, the site covers a hill in a series of terraces bordered by retaining walls of stone that are accessed by about 400 successive andesite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andesite steps rising about 95 metres. It is covered with massive rectangular stones of volcanic origin. The Sundanese people
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote : Nice article. 20,000 years ago at the peak of the last ice age, sea levels were 120 meters lower than today. Sea level was 400 feet lower then because huge ice caps two miles deep covered most of Europe and North America. But as the ice caps began to melt all the water stored in them returned to the oceans and sea-level rose, submerging many parts of the world where humans had previously lived. Thus Britain was joined to Europe during the Ice Age (there was no English Channel or North Sea). Likewise there was no Red Sea, no Persian Gulf, Sri Lanka was joined to southern India, Siberia was joined to Alaska, Australia was joined to New Guinea - and so on and so forth. It was during this epoch of sea-level rise, sometimes slow and continuous, sometimes rapid and cataclysmic, that the Ice Age continent of Sundaland was submerged with only the Malaysian Peninsula and the Indonesian islands as we know them today high enough to remain above water. The following map of 20,000 years ago shows Indonesia as part of the Asian mainland and almost Asia -- as well as significant continental land connections. And this provides insight as to why virtually all cultures have a Great Flood mythology / traditions. Coasts and rivers are often the hubs of civilizations and progress. How many civilizations and cultures for which we have no clue may have perished without a sign during the numerous dramatic rises and falls of oceans in the past 100,000-200,000 years since homo sapiens emerged? I can't see why people living near the coast would have a more advanced culture than any of those living inland, not without the inlanders copying and trading with coastal folk. But there are no signs of advanced culture inland so it's reasonable to suppose that the disparate groups of humans really did evolve as they appear to have done and not with major civilisations that we don't know about. I suspect on this time scale the people would have just moved away from the rising seas and in a single generation would not have noticed them moving at all. We may have lost some nice cave paintings but I doubt there is an Atlantis awaiting discovery. Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Earth Elevation Data Now Available http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Marinexplore now provides elevation data at 1 arc-minute global relief model of Earth s surface from ETOPO1, integrating land topography and ocean bathymetry from ... View on blog.planetos.com http://blog.planetos.com/noaa-etopo1-global-relief-earth-elevation/ Preview by Yahoo Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogeographyregion of Southeastern Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_shelf, the part of the Asian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia continental shelf that was exposed during the last ice age. The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago. It included the Malay Peninsula http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_Peninsula on the Asian mainland, as well as the large islands ofBorneo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borneo, Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(island), and Sumatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatra and their surrounding islands. The eastern boundary of Sundaland is the Wallace Line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line, identified byAlfred Russel Wallace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace as the eastern boundary of the range of Asia's land mammal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal fauna, and thus the boundary of theIndomalaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indomalaya and Australasia ecozones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia_ecozone. The islands east of the Wallace line are known as Wallacea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallacea, and are considered part of Australasia. Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Sundaland (also called the Sundaic region) is a biogeographical region of Southeastern Asia which encompasses the Sunda shelf, the part of the Asian co... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundaland Preview by Yahoo Some dating for the Gunung Padang Megalithic Site in the Sundaland region place it at 16,000 years old. Java
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Take out the lies, the bullshit and the Hindu superstitions and practices and its ok, otherwise not so ok. /Prejudice is the judgment toward people or a person because of religion, race, gender, political opinion, social class, age, or disability./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
CORRECTION: Enlightenment Discussed By Maharishi http://www.tm.org/enlightenment http://www.tm.org/enlightenment Enlightenment Discussed By Maharishi http://www.tm.org/enlightenment Maharishi on Enlightenment (excerpts from an interview) What is the goal of Transcendental Meditation? Maharishi: “The goal of the Transcendental View on www.tm.org http://www.tm.org/enlightenment Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Its the whole ball of wax. TM just doesn't measure up to the hype they make for it. It is a moderately effective meditation that many teachers say has a dropout rate of up to 90% in the first few months. **It doesn't produce enlightened people, which is one of the reasons the Movement no longer advertises that it will lead to enlightenment.** The practice often leads to mental/emotional problems, which is one of the downsides I think Rick is ignoring when he says the Movement is doing good in the world. I agree that some seem to benefit from it, but to see the entire effect, one has to look at the whole picture and to ignore those who have mental and emotional problems that even lead to suicide is to ignore the whole effect of TM on the population of the world. I don't know of other meditations that can lead to the unstressing you have with TM. In addition the absurd mental states the Movement actively encourages that Sal has commented on leads a lot of people to having major life problems with health, relationships and money. When you encourage people to believe whatever the Movement tells you, when they claim a man has a cigarette addiction because he's a siddha and is self referral and expect you to believe it they are engaging in mind manipulation and really encouraging people to be psychotic or to put it more nicely teaching them to be mind numbed sheep holding their wallets out to the Movement. This is not doing good in the world. They love to sell TM by implying that if you do TM, you will be as successful as the celebrities they love to parade before the cameras on David Lynch fund raisers. They ignore the rough edges of some of them like Lynch, Brand and Stern. They absolutely ignore and hide from the enormities of people like Robin Carlsen, Andy Rhymer, Stephen Collins, Bloomfield, Wallace's ex-wife who shot a woman during program in Los Angeles, Shuvender Shem who murdered Levi Butler right in Annapurna dining hall at MUM. Let's look at the whole picture. I appreciate much Rick has done on many levels but I think he is still wearing blinders about Marshy and about the Movement. Let's look at the whole picture. Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. Look objectively at both sides, both camps and you have a picture of a meditation technique that taken in moderation and not expecting too much from it will yield positive results for some. When it is taught in the WAY MARSHY himself taught it and the way the Movement continues to teach it it is definitely doing damage to the world. Take out the lies, the bullshit and the Hindu superstitions and practices and its ok, otherwise not so ok.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
On 10/13/2014 12:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. /So, w//ho would you believe? A very large group of people standing on a streetcorner, who all said that they just saw a 'big blue bus' go by.// // //Or,// // //Another, very small group of people, standing on the same street corner,who all said that 'no big blue bus' came by./
[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The Meditation Trust also offers TM teacher training these days, and implies that they are doing the work that MMY authorized them to do, despite him rescinding that authorization quite publicly and in completely explicit terms. Now that I didn't know. Would like to know what their arrangement for the profits is, shall do some investigating... When I was last living at a TM centre - many moons ago - a few of the MT's students turned up asking for a check. They'd been told that once they had learnt TM they were welcome at any TM centre, which I thought was a bit naughty as it's a blatant lie and not fair on them to have to be told that we can't have anything to do with them. I resented the MT for putting me in the position of having to explain to some really nice and sincere seekers what was going on and why there was all this bad blood between us. It all seems so childish. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. It's a good question, there are a few teaching in various places, The Meditation Trust is probably the best known as they were the guys who quit when Marshy put the price up so high it put them out of business. They have a few centres and hold courses in a country house where they teach the TMSP too. The TM official are always taking legal action against them but there isn't much they can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy. I know people who go on their courses, they always tell me that I musn't mention it to people in the movement, which says it all about the TMO really. The same guy was telling me that someone asked him if it was true that people get brainwashed in the TMO, he said of course not. Anyway, they seem to be doing well and actually making money out of it which is the TM teachers dream, but then they don't have to give half to the TMO. Bad feelings about that too I shouldn't wonder. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1) Is the content valuable and helpful to me now in my life? 2) Does it have a practical benefit? If yes, then take that part and use it. If not, then don't. That should always be the test. On the individual level. For details of how to Reserve a free
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Note that I'm not defending the movement. I can teach meditation myself with a program that is better than TM but I don't push it nor hang a shingle but am willing to teach anyone who is interested. That training and authority came from by tantra teacher. I think TM is Yoga Lite and the way it is not will definitely not work for everyone. Maharishi I'm sure knew that and just figured if it didn't work for someone they'd move on to something just as folks in India find a teaching from a particular guru isn't working for them they find another guru. It's part of the culture. When TM was $75 for an adult to learn that was no problem and it made a good social outlet for folks of similar interest. Our medical establishment often speaks and acts as if everyone has metabolic syndrome just as TM treats the public as they are all pitta. Not everyone has metabolic syndrome and getting caught in such a shotgun approach to treating it can be disastrous if you don't have that problem. Similarly with TM. I wanted to know what was behind TM and I wasn't about to get that from the movement. That I got from other teachers and from a trip to India to demystify that culture. On 10/13/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I also find it interesting that many who still defend the Movement or think it is doing good or that TM itself is valuable don't actually teach TM anymore and in many cases don't even do TM anymore. That says more about the goodness of TM and its organization than anything else they can say about it. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 12:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I'm curious, how would you feel about TM if it was today only $125 and maybe taught over a weekend workshop? Or maybe even the first technique free? What bothers you more the money or the supposed link to 'Hinduism'? On 10/13/2014 09:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? *From:* 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM *Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *nablusoss1008 *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Gone Girl
I thought of seeing it last week because it is at the nearby theater. But I'm not a big Affleck fan either and was more interested in seeing what Carrie Coon does in the film because she kinda stole the show on HBO's The Leftovers. It'll probably be available before Xmas on BD rental. Amazon is being a bit slimy on the listed by showing Watch Now and it's the trailer and the opportunity to pre-order it streaming or disc. On 10/13/2014 10:04 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: If you can manage to do what I did -- see this movie without spoilers, and without any real idea of what to expect -- it's really quite an E-ticket ride. My hat is off first to novel and screenplay author Gillian Flynn, who managed to actually come up with an original idea...that's a real rarity these days. Next hat-tip is to David Fincher, for bringing it to the screen effectively, and in such a way that you almost feel as if you're watching a succession of short movies rather than just one long one. You start in one plot reality, and then twenty minutes later you're in another, and then another, all the way through. Fincher did that with Se7en and Fight Club, of course, but it's just as effective a technique here. Ben Affleck always tends to leave me feeling Meh! about his performances, and did so again in this movie, but that may be purely a preference thang on my part. He just doesn't do it for me, but I can see how people who like him will love him in this role. So it's really Rosamund Pike's movie. She drops into the ever-changing reality of this plot like she was born to it. Whoever she is called upon by the script to be in that moment, that's who she is. She never telegraphs anything from any of the other realities or points of view. I think she won herself a Best Acting Oscar in this movie. I liked it. I'm thinking of going to see it tonight in an actual theater, instead of rewatching the small-screen DVD-quality screener version I saw earlier. Coming from a pirate, that's a pretty high recommendation for a movie, :-) Here's a trailer, and a pretty good one because it manages to give away almost nothing. Gone Girl - Official Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGn-xKFZdU image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGn-xKFZdU Gone Girl - Official Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGn-xKFZdU View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGn-xKFZdU Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Art from the beginning of History
Sal I suspect on this time scale the people would have just moved away from the rising seas and in a single generation would not have noticed them moving at all. We may have lost some nice cave paintings but I doubt there is an Atlantis awaiting discovery. Mass migration, even today is not a walk in the park. 25% or possible more of Bangladesh may be lost by 2100. Will neighboring countries welcome all the refugees with open arms? Countless refugee camps now and in past years demonstrate the difficulty of relocation. And with temperature, climate patterns and sea level changes, massive changes presumably occurred to flora and fauna significantly disrupting the economic foundations and social fabric of migrating societies. And cultures advance in many directions. An advanced culture might look little like the high tech image portrayed by Atlantas fans. We have lost massive amounts of knowledge of past cultures and civilizations (Greek, Egyptian for example) that at least remain intact geographically.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
But, Richard, it's often gonna be groups of equal size who are disagreeing! Ultimately we each have to come to our own conclusions. On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:01 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/13/2014 12:25 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. So, who would you believe? A very large group of people standing on a streetcorner, who all said that they just saw a 'big blue bus' go by. Or, Another, very small group of people, standing on the same street corner,who all said that 'no big blue bus' came by.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?
Bhairitu, I heard through the grapevine that people started popping up out of their chairs during lectures. And that's one reason Maharishi brought out the siddhis. On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:12 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Never tried Red Bull except for their natural cola which is very good and has real cola nut in it instead of artificial flavors. I might have a problem with a class action suit over an obviously absurd and mainly metaphoric claim that Red Bull gives you wings. Did Red Bull start the class action themselves. It might be cheaper to pay $13 million than more for an ad campaign. When I cut the cable I got Hulu+ (first month free) to keep up with any broadcast TV shows worth watching. When I had cable I would DVR shows and then use the 30 second skip button to skip ads. With Hulu you get ads too but the breaks are usually shorter though ABC and FOX seem to be booking longer breaks there. There is no 30 skip button for Hulu+ so I just hit the mute button and don't watch. There's hardly anything there I would be interested in buying anyway. But turning the sound off makes the ads look even more insipid. I think the ad agencies need to turn the sound off just to realize how bad their ads are these days. I didn't do the TM-Sidhi program to learn to fly. If it was just that well guess what? I was hopping before I got that sutra. A bunch of us who were being naughty and reading Muktananda's books at the time for some reason started hopping during meditations at home. So when I got the flying sutra it was merely time to officially fly. Bet there are a few others here who had the same experience. In fact the other person who flew immediately admitted to me that he had been hopping before the course. Can we levitate. Probably (now some heads are going to start frittering). My tantra guru told me had floated saying he felt something odd and opened his eyes to find himself off the ground a bit and not using any specific sutra. There is the supernatural and there are things human beings don't understand yet. Oh and I'm no athlete and never felt any effort in flying even with several foot high hops. On 10/12/2014 07:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate? Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying? Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous? Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. Energy drink Red Bull settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a receipt for proof. Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
I'm surprised they have this on their web site - but that is a far cry from the focus the Movement had on it before - witness the early days of TMSP where it was said that ALTHOUGH the program taught supernormal abilites, the real reason Marshy taught them was to accelarate the progress to enlightenment - he said the yoga sutras sewed or knit together the fabric of Unity. They don't say that anymore -it became all about world peace since no one gained enlightenment from TMSP (except Robin and Unity Andy) From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 CORRECTION: Enlightenment Discussed By Maharishi Enlightenment Discussed By Maharishi Maharishi on Enlightenment (excerpts from an interview) What is the goal of Transcendental Meditation? Maharishi: “The goal of the Transcendental View on www.tm.org Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Its the whole ball of wax. TM just doesn't measure up to the hype they make for it. It is a moderately effective meditation that many teachers say has a dropout rate of up to 90% in the first few months. **It doesn't produce enlightened people,which is one of the reasons the Movement no longer advertises that it will lead to enlightenment.** The practice often leads to mental/emotional problems, which is one of the downsides I think Rick is ignoring when he says the Movement is doing good in the world. I agree that some seem to benefit from it, but to see the entire effect, one has to look at the whole picture and to ignore those who have mental and emotional problems that even lead to suicide is to ignore the whole effect of TM on the population of the world. I don't know of other meditations that can lead to the unstressing you have with TM. In addition the absurd mental states the Movement actively encourages that Sal has commented on leads a lot of people to having major life problems with health, relationships and money. When you encourage people to believe whatever the Movement tells you, when they claim a man has a cigarette addiction because he's a siddha and is self referral and expect you to believe it they are engaging in mind manipulation and really encouraging people to be psychotic or to put it more nicely teaching them to be mind numbed sheep holding their wallets out to the Movement. This is not doing good in the world. They love to sell TM by implying that if you do TM, you will be as successful as the celebrities they love to parade before the cameras on David Lynch fund raisers. They ignore the rough edges of some of them like Lynch, Brand and Stern. They absolutely ignore and hide from the enormities of people like Robin Carlsen, Andy Rhymer, Stephen Collins, Bloomfield, Wallace's ex-wife who shot a woman during program in Los Angeles, Shuvender Shem who murdered Levi Butler right in Annapurna dining hall at MUM. Let's look at the whole picture. I appreciate much Rick has done on many levels but I think he is still wearing blinders about Marshy and about the Movement. Let's look at the whole picture. Look at all the people who say TM is an asset, look at those who think it is a fine thing and then look with the same objective view at those who say it ruined their lives, that it screwed them up in many ways. Both camps are telling the truth. One is not right and the other wrong. Both things are true. Look objectively at both sides, both camps and you have a picture of a meditation technique that taken in moderation and not expecting too much from it will yield positive results for some. When it is taught in the WAY MARSHY himself taught it and the way the Movement continues to teach it it is definitely doing damage to the world. Take out the lies, the bullshit and the Hindu superstitions and practices and its ok, otherwise not so ok.
[FairfieldLife] Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
Can we rewrite our memories? Lengthy but fascinating article about how Sci-Fi is becoming reality. A bit grim for the mice though Make your own memories: one day you’ll be able to replace the bad ones with good ones http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/12/memory-how-science-fiction-can-become-reality http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/12/memory-how-science-fiction-can-become-reality Make your own memories: one day you’ll be able to re... http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/12/memory-how-science-fiction-can-become-reality Science fiction fantasies such as Total Recall, Blade Runner and Eternal Sunshine could become reality View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/12/memory-how-science-fiction-can-become-reality Preview by Yahoo
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
The TMO doesn't have real enemies, they don't qualify. But they do have a lot of nutties with big egos who think they know better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 They, including Rick Archer, have several agendas the most urgent is to try to split up and weaken the TMO. With friends like you Nabby, the TMO doesn’t need enemies.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
None of the nutties with big ego's who think they know better, like yourself, qualify as an enemy of the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 They, including Rick Archer, have several agendas the most urgent is to try to split up and weaken the TMO. With friends like you Nabby, the TMO doesn’t need enemies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Animal Life Forms on Mars
Salyavin, The NASA chief recently stated that there may be life forms that exist on Mars today. Here's the link: http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-spot-odd-objects-on-mars-maybe-curiosity-wasn-t-first-explorer http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-spot-odd-objects-on-mars-maybe-curiosity-wasn-t-first-explorer
[FairfieldLife] For Mike: Hawk attacks Drone
Does your falcon attack drones? http://youtu.be/AhDG_WBIQgc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Can someone help me with this? Has Barry moved towards the Michael mindset, or has Michael inched up towards the TB mindset. At any rate, they have become absofuckingly indistinquishable from another. Two TM Obsessives who positively live off whatever what is going on with TM. Or, would feed off, be a better phrase. What Barry doesn't realize, when he pines for Marek and Curtis, and (yes, pines away is the right term), is that evidently they do have other interests. You know, the comment Barry often throws out when referring to people he considers TBers, people who have no other lives other than TM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I can't help but see the fact that what the Movement mainly uses TM for is to get more converts to make more money. They are not out there doing anything substantive to improve the quality of life for people - they promote TM to promote TM, not to do anything else. (from my point of view) Absofuckinglutely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Barry, I'm not sure when you decided to skew everything in such a way to cast a negative light on the TM organization. I think there was a time when you felt as though you could engage in discourse that wasn't 100% agenda. Oh wait, FLASH. The arrival of your acolyte, one Mr. Michael Jackson. Nevermind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com This is just too silly for words. If the emphasis is on assessing the content, why is it being promoted as being a message from MMY? The truth is that for some weird reason, Hammond is using this ploy to promote his own views. If he just gave a talk himself, no one would be interested. So he has hit on this ludicrous marketing ploy. As I commented earlier, I am astonished that anyone is taking this seriously. While I agree that the whole scenario is too silly for words, what does it say about the incredible gullibility and susceptibility of TMers *that* it's being taken seriously? In what other group would its members actually fall for this? What other group would proactively attempt to squelch it, as Raja (that's ludicrous in itself) Hagelin did? This is great theater. I hope *some* reporters actually attend, and write it up or do a TV bit about it. Can't you just imagine the headline/teaser? Leaders Of TM Cult Freak Out Over Advice From Beyond The Grave Sent By Original Sexy Sadie Guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30
Do you remember how many people you taught TM to, and what would you estimate the number who were still doing TM a year after their initiation? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Note that I'm not defending the movement. I can teach meditation myself with a program that is better than TM but I don't push it nor hang a shingle but am willing to teach anyone who is interested. That training and authority came from by tantra teacher. I think TM is Yoga Lite and the way it is not will definitely not work for everyone. Maharishi I'm sure knew that and just figured if it didn't work for someone they'd move on to something just as folks in India find a teaching from a particular guru isn't working for them they find another guru. It's part of the culture. When TM was $75 for an adult to learn that was no problem and it made a good social outlet for folks of similar interest. Our medical establishment often speaks and acts as if everyone has metabolic syndrome just as TM treats the public as they are all pitta. Not everyone has metabolic syndrome and getting caught in such a shotgun approach to treating it can be disastrous if you don't have that problem. Similarly with TM. I wanted to know what was behind TM and I wasn't about to get that from the movement. That I got from other teachers and from a trip to India to demystify that culture. On 10/13/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I also find it interesting that many who still defend the Movement or think it is doing good or that TM itself is valuable don't actually teach TM anymore and in many cases don't even do TM anymore. That says more about the goodness of TM and its organization than anything else they can say about it. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 I'm curious, how would you feel about TM if it was today only $125 and maybe taught over a weekend workshop? Or maybe even the first technique free? What bothers you more the money or the supposed link to 'Hinduism'? On 10/13/2014 09:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am curious how you feel it is doing good in the world when it has thrived off of lies, misinformation and the cultish beliefs and antics it has used for decades? Do you mean just by the fact it still teaches TM to folks who were not meditators before? From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. I have no such strategy. I just forward stuff that’s relevant to FFL. That includes stuff from Hagelin, Orme-Johnson, etc. I wish the movement well. I think it’s doing a lot of good in the world. But it will only thrive if it conducts itself with honesty and integrity and purges itself from cultish nonsense, much of which was introduced by MMY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Animal Life Forms on Mars
However NASA was advised at the beginning of our space age to be careful if they discover any evidence of intelligent life especially things like alien space craft or outposts. So don't count on hearing from them any time soon about anything they find along that line or have already found. The fear is it would cause upheaval from religious institutions who believe that some magic man in the sky invented things just 6000 years ago. On 10/13/2014 02:01 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Not a very good source of information here. NASA indeed thinks that life could have originated on Mars in the past, and possibly still exists today, but it would be micro-organisms, like bacteria. Temperatures on Mars range from about 20°C to below -100°C, averaging somewhere in the neighbourhood of -40°C most of the time. It is a frozen desert now. The life they expect they could find would be something like the micro-organisms found in the dry valleys in Antarctica, which live inside of rocks slightly beneath the rock's exterior surfaces. More likely, were signs of life to be found, it would be fossil evidence of life from the distant past when Mars had more atmosphere and surface water. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, The NASA chief recently stated that there may be life forms that exist on Mars today. Here's the link: http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-spot-odd-objects-on-mars-maybe-curiosity-wasn-t-first-explorer
[FairfieldLife] OMG! [1 Attachment]
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Re: [FairfieldLife] more wildlife: deer and bat, and fox
What do you do for spiders who happen to love the heat from the IR LEDs and will spin webs in front of the camera? Last week I had to brush them off twice on my front camera because it gets triggered more at night and those LEDs are on to attract them. I read that installers use Vaseline around the camera as spiders don't like it or lavender oil is useful as they don't like it either. Spiders smell with their feet. On 10/13/2014 02:40 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: [Attachment(s) #TopText from fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] included below] The bat photo-bombed the deer, and I figured out it is *the fox*, who roams inside the fence, sometimes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Animal Life Forms on Mars
The Creationists will have to rethink their theology if intelligent beings are found on Mars or elsewhere. That's their problem. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : However NASA was advised at the beginning of our space age to be careful if they discover any evidence of intelligent life especially things like alien space craft or outposts. So don't count on hearing from them any time soon about anything they find along that line or have already found. The fear is it would cause upheaval from religious institutions who believe that some magic man in the sky invented things just 6000 years ago. On 10/13/2014 02:01 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Not a very good source of information here. NASA indeed thinks that life could have originated on Mars in the past, and possibly still exists today, but it would be micro-organisms, like bacteria. Temperatures on Mars range from about 20°C to below -100°C, averaging somewhere in the neighbourhood of -40°C most of the time. It is a frozen desert now. The life they expect they could find would be something like the micro-organisms found in the dry valleys in Antarctica, which live inside of rocks slightly beneath the rock's exterior surfaces. More likely, were signs of life to be found, it would be fossil evidence of life from the distant past when Mars had more atmosphere and surface water. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, The NASA chief recently stated that there may be life forms that exist on Mars today. Here's the link: http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-spot-odd-objects-on-mars-maybe-curiosity-wasn-t-first-explorer http://www.examiner.com/article/ufo-enthusiasts-spot-odd-objects-on-mars-maybe-curiosity-wasn-t-first-explorer
[FairfieldLife] About Nov. 30 and the TM movement
Yea But, the really interesting thing here is the legal path the old UK TM teachers carve out to continue to teach in the face of the strong-hand attempt of TM trademark assertion.. as Sal notes: but there isn't much they (Vlodrop) can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi). That is interesting. 40,000 TM teachers out there in the world trained by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a few hundreds of TM teacher re-certs. The new TM legal department sharp-shoots old individuals continuing to teach TM as they were taught to teach as an infringement but this particular group of UK scorpion TM teachers stuck together and withstands the new TM legal department together. The Maharishi Foundation (Vlodrop and Vedic City) now keep a trademark infringement law firm on retainer now in the USA as they hunt down old TM teachers teaching outside the TM teacher re-certification project, a project that came post Maharishi or at the end to have old teachers come in and sign papers again restricting their teaching. Apparently the group of UK TM teachers exist extra-territorial to new-TM because they stuck together. Damned scorpions. -Buck steve.sundur wrote : Sal, .. Your strict adherence to everything science has dulled your sensitivity to nuance. You've got that knee jerk, TM bash move down pat. mjackson74@... wrote : Sal says they do and their web presence speaks to it as well. But I will defer to Sal on this he is in a position to know. Sal writing: It's a good question, there are a few teaching in various places, The Meditation Trust is probably the best known as they were the guys who quit when Marshy put the price up so high it put them out of business. They have a few centres and hold courses in a country house where they teach the TMSP too. The TM official are always taking legal action against them but there isn't much they can do as all the teachers were trained by Marshy. I know people who go on their courses, they always tell me that I musn't mention it to people in the movement, which says it all about the TMO really. The same guy was telling me that someone asked him if it was true that people get brainwashed in the TMO, he said of course not. Anyway, they seem to be doing well and actually making money out of it which is the TM teachers dream, but then they don't have to give half to the TMO. Bad feelings about that too I shouldn't wonder. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Michael: note the highlighted part of my post below. A schism requires that the split off group has a coherent organization. I don't know if the initiators in England have this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the Movement already split - don't forget the renegade initiators in England From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30 Species, Corporations, Religions, Cults, as is the nature of change, always, if they persist, break apart or become extinct. A schism is always eventually in the cards for the TM movement. It is said shortly after his death, the followers of Buddha broke into some two dozen different sects. You can see how Christianity split over time. There seem to be fewer splits among Muslims, perhaps a reflection of the dark ferocity of their memes. The Mormons, barely a religion after 150 years, have split six times. And look at all the different Hindu flavours. It is almost a no-brainer prediction that the TM movement will at some point split. *Already there are many teachers in various countries teaching outside the movement purview.* I would say that movements in which the participants are unable to think for themselves are likely to cohere together longer than those in which mental freedom and expression are given freer reign. Onward Lemmings! Rick does not have to do anything to weaken the movement, it will break naturally of its own accord, it is already frayed around the edges. While you might try to do something to arrest progress, eventually you will fail. That is the nature of evolution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's part of Rick Archer's long-time strategy to try to split up and weaken the Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thnovember.com/ Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on assessing its content (i.e., whoever the source may be is far less relevant). Ask yourself on November 30th: 1)
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike: Hawk attacks Drone
Excellent - Yes, please post pics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha ha, saw that on the news just a while ago. No, I won't fly mine around people with remote aircraft. I know my birds would be tempted to go after them and could get their feet hurt by the propellers. However, I have seen You Tube videos of Arabs using one to pull a lure through the air and the falcons were taught to chase it. I do train my falcons to go up to a lure suspended from a kite though. Just had my male Peregrine fly up 500 feet in a twenty mile an hour wind today. Little guy is getting strong! P90X for falcons! I'll have him going to 1500 feet by the end of the month. I'll post some pics of him soon. Having trouble e-mailing pics from my phone to my computer now. Once I get it worked out, I'll send some to FFL. On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:19 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Does your falcon attack drones? http://youtu.be/AhDG_WBIQgc
