Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

[Dianne Robison]

Thanks for your thoughts, Amani!  Much appreciated.
Since I know my vet is going to ask me, is there any research or your 
experience you can provide to me so I can provide to my vet?  I know you have 
probably posted some back up in this group before but, thought it would be 
easier to ask you to send rather than trying to search.   Thanks again!

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley 
To: Dianne Robison ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 12:09 am
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

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Dianne, I don’t really know about the lymphoma. I can say that I have used the 
Winstrol in many different situations in cats. I have found it to be 
surprisingly and unexpectedly effective for a wide variety of conditions. I 
have used it in a cat with a nasal adenocarcinoma, and the effect was to keep 
the tumour shrunken for an extended period of time after radiation therapy. I 
am currently using it on a cat with a suspected spinal tumour which has a 
significant neurological effect, until I give a high Winstrol dose which has 
the immediate effect of correcting the neurological symptoms within 48 hours. 
No idea how it is doing it, but the effect is quite pronounced, to the point 
that I have had difficulty in getting a neurologist to assess my cat’s 
condition since the symptoms disappear within 2 days of giving the Winstrol. I 
have had to resort to videotaping the symptoms in order to be able to 
demonstrate them to the vets.    Thus, I have no idea what the Winstrol will 
do, if anything, in the presence of the lymphoma. However, FeLV often causes 
the development of lymphoma, so with any luck, by knocking back the virus, it 
may have a beneficial effect on the lymphoma.    Amani    From: Dianne Robison 
 
Sent: July 27, 2020 10:18 PM
To: Amani Oakley ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap  
  
   
Thanks for your quick response, Amani!  What are your thoughts about the added 
issue of lymphoma?    Thanks, Dianne -Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley 
To: Dianne Robison ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2020 8:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap 
Hi Dianne   I recommend starting her on Winstrol, Doxycycline and Prednisone.   
Winstrol (Stanozolol) is an anabolic steroid which is amazing in both its 
ability to stimulate red cell production from the bone marrow, as well as an 
excellent appetite stimulant. Cerenia is not a particularly effective 
antibiotic in the circumstances, though the fact that it can be used as a “slow 
release” antibiotic is a very good feature. My hypothesis is that Doxycycline 
actually works to affect the FeLV virus by preventing its cell wall production 
and/or stymies viral reproduction. The Prednisone or Prednisolone acts as an 
anti-inflammatory and possible liver protection.   Be forewarned that the 
Winstrol will likely significantly increase liver enzymes and will very much 
alarm the vet. My experience is that the liver enzyme spikes are temporary and 
will revert back to normal once the Winstrol is discontinued.   The dosages I 
recommend are:  
   - 1 mg x2 per day of Winstrol (However, I have learned that cats have a 
remarkably high tolerance for Winstrol, so you could “jump start” the process 
by giving 2 mg x2 per day for the first week and then dropping it down to 1 mg 
x2 per day.
  
   - 50 mg x2 of Doxycycline, per day
  
   - 5 mg x1 prednisone/prednisolone per day
     Run the bloodwork frequently – one a week if possible at the outset

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

[Dianne Robison]

Thanks for your quick response, Amani!  What are your thoughts about the added 
issue of lymphoma?
Thanks,Dianne

-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley 
To: Dianne Robison ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2020 8:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

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Dianne    I recommend starting her on Winstrol, Doxycycline and Prednisone.    
Winstrol (Stanozolol) is an anabolic steroid which is amazing in both its 
ability to stimulate red cell production from the bone marrow, as well as an 
excellent appetite stimulant. Cerenia is not a particularly effective 
antibiotic in the circumstances, though the fact that it can be used as a “slow 
release” antibiotic is a very good feature. My hypothesis is that Doxycycline 
actually works to affect the FeLV virus by preventing its cell wall production 
and/or stymies viral reproduction. The Prednisone or Prednisolone acts as an 
anti-inflammatory and possible liver protection.    Be forewarned that the 
Winstrol will likely significantly increase liver enzymes and will very much 
alarm the vet. My experience is that the liver enzyme spikes are temporary and 
will revert back to normal once the Winstrol is discontinued.    The dosages I 
recommend are:   
   - 1 mg x2 per day of Winstrol (However, I have learned that cats have a 
remarkably high tolerance for Winstrol, so you could “jump start” the process 
by giving 2 mg x2 per day for the first week and then dropping it down to 1 mg 
x2 per day.
   
   - 50 mg x2 of Doxycycline, per day
   
   - 5 mg x1 prednisone/prednisolone per day
       Run the bloodwork frequently – one a week if possible at the outset, and 
see if the results help to guide the dosage of Winstrol. Right now, you 
indicate your cat’s haematocrit is 20 which is low but not anywhere near 
critical yet. My cat’s haematocrit went down to 5. After several attempts at 
blood transfusions, it went only as high as 16. When it dropped back to 10, I 
started him on Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisolone, out of sheer desperation 
(nothing else worked), and got an immediate and wonderful response – the 
haematocrit began to climb within days of the first doses of Winstrol.    I had 
my cat, Zander, on this regime for a year, though at some point during the 
course of the year, I dropped the Winstrol down to 1 mg per day. Again, this 
was entirely dependent on his bloodwork. For the longest time, every time I 
tried to wean down the dose of Winstrol, his haematocrit would immediately drop 
as well. It probably took more than 4-6 months before his haematocrit would 
stay steady when I reduced the dose of Winstrol, and more than a year before I 
could wean him off it completely. However, Zander’s situation in terms of his 
haematocrit, was more dire than the blood work you have reported, so you may 
not need that long.    By the way, the Winstrol actually seemed to “turn back 
on” the bone marrow after it seems to have been destroyed by the virus. 
Zander’s reticulocyte count was ZERO for more than a year, while we struggled 
to find something that worked: blood transfusions, interferon, LTCI injections, 
etc. After I started him on the Winstrol, within a few weeks, I was started to 
get readings on the reticulocyte counts. Reticulocyte count is a measurement of 
how many immature red cells are being produced by bone marrow. Clearly, for 
more than a year, Zander was basically producing next to nothing in red cells, 
and was kept alive by the blood transfusions we were giving him.    Winstrol 
can be difficult to get ahold of. Generally, it needs to be specially 
compounded by a compounding pharmacy. I used small white pills. Others on this 
email group have reported that they have obtained it in liquid form.    Good 
luck and hopefully your vet will assist.     Amani    From: Felvtalk 
 On Behalf Of Dianne Robison
Sent: July 27, 2020 9:00 PM
To: felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

[Amani Oakley]

Dianne, I don’t really know about the lymphoma. I can say that I have used the 
Winstrol in many different situations in cats. I have found it to be 
surprisingly and unexpectedly effective for a wide variety of conditions. I 
have used it in a cat with a nasal adenocarcinoma, and the effect was to keep 
the tumour shrunken for an extended period of time after radiation therapy. I 
am currently using it on a cat with a suspected spinal tumour which has a 
significant neurological effect, until I give a high Winstrol dose which has 
the immediate effect of correcting the neurological symptoms within 48 hours. 
No idea how it is doing it, but the effect is quite pronounced, to the point 
that I have had difficulty in getting a neurologist to assess my cat’s 
condition since the symptoms disappear within 2 days of giving the Winstrol. I 
have had to resort to videotaping the symptoms in order to be able to 
demonstrate them to the vets.

Thus, I have no idea what the Winstrol will do, if anything, in the presence of 
the lymphoma. However, FeLV often causes the development of lymphoma, so with 
any luck, by knocking back the virus, it may have a beneficial effect on the 
lymphoma.

Amani

From: Dianne Robison 
Sent: July 27, 2020 10:18 PM
To: Amani Oakley ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap


Thanks for your quick response, Amani!  What are your thoughts about the added 
issue of lymphoma?

Thanks,
Dianne
-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
To: Dianne Robison mailto:dbearw...@aol.com>>; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2020 8:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap
Hi Dianne

I recommend starting her on Winstrol, Doxycycline and Prednisone.

Winstrol (Stanozolol) is an anabolic steroid which is amazing in both its 
ability to stimulate red cell production from the bone marrow, as well as an 
excellent appetite stimulant. Cerenia is not a particularly effective 
antibiotic in the circumstances, though the fact that it can be used as a “slow 
release” antibiotic is a very good feature. My hypothesis is that Doxycycline 
actually works to affect the FeLV virus by preventing its cell wall production 
and/or stymies viral reproduction. The Prednisone or Prednisolone acts as an 
anti-inflammatory and possible liver protection.

Be forewarned that the Winstrol will likely significantly increase liver 
enzymes and will very much alarm the vet. My experience is that the liver 
enzyme spikes are temporary and will revert back to normal once the Winstrol is 
discontinued.

The dosages I recommend are:


  *   1 mg x2 per day of Winstrol (However, I have learned that cats have a 
remarkably high tolerance for Winstrol, so you could “jump start” the process 
by giving 2 mg x2 per day for the first week and then dropping it down to 1 mg 
x2 per day.


  *   50 mg x2 of Doxycycline, per day


  *   5 mg x1 prednisone/prednisolone per day


Run the bloodwork frequently – one a week if possible at the outset, and see if 
the results help to guide the dosage of Winstrol. Right now, you indicate your 
cat’s haematocrit is 20 which is low but not anywhere near critical yet. My 
cat’s haematocrit went down to 5. After several attempts at blood transfusions, 
it went only as high as 16. When it dropped back to 10, I started him on 
Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisolone, out of sheer desperation (nothing else 
worked), and got an immediate and wonderful response – the haematocrit began to 
climb within days of the first doses of Winstrol.

I had my cat, Zander, on this regime for a year, though at some point during 
the course of the year, I dropped the Winstrol down to 1 mg per day. Again, 
this was entirely dependent on his bloodwork. For the longest time, every time 
I tried to wean down the dose of Winstrol, his haematocrit would immediately 
drop as well. It probably took more than 4-6 months before his haematocrit 
would stay steady when I reduced the dose of Winstrol, and more than a year 
before I could wean him off it completely. However, Zander’s situation in terms 
of his haematocrit, was more dire than the blood work you have reported, so you 
may not need that long.

By the way, the Winstrol actually seemed to “turn back on” the bone marrow 
after it seems to have been destroyed by the virus. Zander’s reticulocyte count 
was ZERO for more than a year, while we struggled to find something that 
worked: blood transfusions, interferon, LTCI injections, etc. After I started 
him on the Winstrol, within a few weeks, I was started to get readings on the 
reticulocyte counts. Reticulocyte count is a measurement of how many immature 
red cells are being produced by bone marrow. Clearly, for more than a year, 
Zander was basically producing next to nothing in

[Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

[Dianne Robison]

Hello and help please.
This is our third go around with a Feluek positive and lymphoma (sad to say).  
Our girl, Ginger, will be 7 years old on Wednesday and has been asymptomatic 
until now.  Her lymph nodes in neck and belly are enlarged ad she stopped 
eating about 36 hours ago.  We took her to doc today who did blood work, xray, 
needle biopsy of lymph node. Her organ function numbers are all still good but 
her Hematocrit is 20 and she was dehydrated.  We got her fluids, Cerenia and 
will start her on 5 mg. of prednisone twice a day and an appetitie stimulant in 
her ear.  
Thoughts, ideas, suggestions, please!  We know time is not on our side and 
anything you have up your sleeve is welcome.
We've gone the feeding tube and chemo route with our first kitty with FeLV and 
mediastinal lymphoma and it was not good.  
Thank you so much!Dianne Robison & Ginger
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Dianne

I recommend starting her on Winstrol, Doxycycline and Prednisone.

Winstrol (Stanozolol) is an anabolic steroid which is amazing in both its 
ability to stimulate red cell production from the bone marrow, as well as an 
excellent appetite stimulant. Cerenia is not a particularly effective 
antibiotic in the circumstances, though the fact that it can be used as a “slow 
release” antibiotic is a very good feature. My hypothesis is that Doxycycline 
actually works to affect the FeLV virus by preventing its cell wall production 
and/or stymies viral reproduction. The Prednisone or Prednisolone acts as an 
anti-inflammatory and possible liver protection.

Be forewarned that the Winstrol will likely significantly increase liver 
enzymes and will very much alarm the vet. My experience is that the liver 
enzyme spikes are temporary and will revert back to normal once the Winstrol is 
discontinued.

The dosages I recommend are:


  *   1 mg x2 per day of Winstrol (However, I have learned that cats have a 
remarkably high tolerance for Winstrol, so you could “jump start” the process 
by giving 2 mg x2 per day for the first week and then dropping it down to 1 mg 
x2 per day.


  *   50 mg x2 of Doxycycline, per day


  *   5 mg x1 prednisone/prednisolone per day



Run the bloodwork frequently – one a week if possible at the outset, and see if 
the results help to guide the dosage of Winstrol. Right now, you indicate your 
cat’s haematocrit is 20 which is low but not anywhere near critical yet. My 
cat’s haematocrit went down to 5. After several attempts at blood transfusions, 
it went only as high as 16. When it dropped back to 10, I started him on 
Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisolone, out of sheer desperation (nothing else 
worked), and got an immediate and wonderful response – the haematocrit began to 
climb within days of the first doses of Winstrol.

I had my cat, Zander, on this regime for a year, though at some point during 
the course of the year, I dropped the Winstrol down to 1 mg per day. Again, 
this was entirely dependent on his bloodwork. For the longest time, every time 
I tried to wean down the dose of Winstrol, his haematocrit would immediately 
drop as well. It probably took more than 4-6 months before his haematocrit 
would stay steady when I reduced the dose of Winstrol, and more than a year 
before I could wean him off it completely. However, Zander’s situation in terms 
of his haematocrit, was more dire than the blood work you have reported, so you 
may not need that long.

By the way, the Winstrol actually seemed to “turn back on” the bone marrow 
after it seems to have been destroyed by the virus. Zander’s reticulocyte count 
was ZERO for more than a year, while we struggled to find something that 
worked: blood transfusions, interferon, LTCI injections, etc. After I started 
him on the Winstrol, within a few weeks, I was started to get readings on the 
reticulocyte counts. Reticulocyte count is a measurement of how many immature 
red cells are being produced by bone marrow. Clearly, for more than a year, 
Zander was basically producing next to nothing in red cells, and was kept alive 
by the blood transfusions we were giving him.

Winstrol can be difficult to get ahold of. Generally, it needs to be specially 
compounded by a compounding pharmacy. I used small white pills. Others on this 
email group have reported that they have obtained it in liquid form.

Good luck and hopefully your vet will assist.

Amani

From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Dianne Robison
Sent: July 27, 2020 9:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and now Multicentric lymphoma - need advice asap

Hello and help please.

This is our third go around with a Feluek positive and lymphoma (sad to say).

Our girl, Ginger, will be 7 years old on Wednesday and has been asymptomatic 
until now.  Her lymph nodes in neck and belly are enlarged ad she stopped 
eating about 36 hours ago.  We took her to doc today who did blood work, xray, 
needle biopsy of lymph node. Her organ function numbers are all still good but 
her Hematocrit is 20 and she was dehydrated.  We got her fluids, Cerenia and 
will start her on 5 mg. of prednisone twice a day and an appetitie stimulant in 
her ear.

Thoughts, ideas, suggestions, please!  We know time is not on our side and 
anything you have up your sleeve is welcome.

We've gone the feeding tube and chemo route with our first kitty with FeLV and 
mediastinal lymphoma and it was not good.

Thank you so much!
Dianne Robison & Ginger
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV

[Pam Doore]

That has always been my email signature.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 4:11 PM Lorrie  wrote:

> >
> > ~~@~@~@~@~@
> >
> > *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **St. Patrick*
>
> This is a group for feline leukemia, not a religious group.
>
> >  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV

[Lorrie]

> 
> ~~@~@~@~@~@
> 
> *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me,
> Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **St. Patrick*
  
This is a group for feline leukemia, not a religious group.

>  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org


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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Gloria]

Amani-I thought that the meds you talked about might be beneficial for both 
since both are viruses-thanks!

note: keeping the previous emails attached for context-hope this is okay
Gloria
-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> I was confused about that because the "re" line said FeLV.
> 
> It doesn’t matter though. I have used the medication combo on a cat from a 
> feral colony where FIV ran rampant and killed most of the cats. When I took 
> mine in, she was very very sick as well. She pulled through on the med 
> combination.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Gloria
> Sent: October-17-18 10:49 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent
> 
> Amani-
> FYI
> Sandy said FIV, not FeLV-not sure if it makes any difference, tho’.❤️
> Gloria
> 
> 
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sandy
>> 
>> I will step in here, and repeat what I have told so many others on this 
>> chatline.
>> 
>> I am cutting and pasting from one of my first ever posts on this forum:
>> 
>> I would like to share what I think is very important information with others 
>> who have cats diagnosed with Feline Leukemia.
>> 
>> 
>> "I am new to this forum so I don't know if my post (below) can be seen by 
>> other members of the discussion forum. If so, I apologize for reposting it a 
>> few times today in response to a few of the posts.
>> 
>> I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died 
>> from something else that I don't believe was related to the leukemia. When 
>> the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with 
>> leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and 
>> I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers 
>> to any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I 
>> had in the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat. 
>> 
>> This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we 
>> were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After 
>> being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to 
>> climb very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets 
>> couldn't believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of 
>> the woods in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of 
>> his ears,


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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Amani Oakley]

I was confused about that because the "re" line said FeLV.

It doesn’t matter though. I have used the medication combo on a cat from a 
feral colony where FIV ran rampant and killed most of the cats. When I took 
mine in, she was very very sick as well. She pulled through on the med 
combination.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria
Sent: October-17-18 10:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

Amani-
FYI
Sandy said FIV, not FeLV-not sure if it makes any difference, tho’.❤️
Gloria


-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy
> 
> I will step in here, and repeat what I have told so many others on this 
> chatline.
> 
> I am cutting and pasting from one of my first ever posts on this forum:
> 
> I would like to share what I think is very important information with others 
> who have cats diagnosed with Feline Leukemia.
> 
> 
> "I am new to this forum so I don't know if my post (below) can be seen by 
> other members of the discussion forum. If so, I apologize for reposting it a 
> few times today in response to a few of the posts.
> 
> I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died 
> from something else that I don't believe was related to the leukemia. When 
> the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with 
> leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and 
> I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to 
> any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in 
> the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat. 
> 
> This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we 
> were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After 
> being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb 
> very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't 
> believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods 
> in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, 
> gums and pads to check the status of his profound anemia, and to our 
> unbelievable joy, he began to get pink and his lab results just kept getting 
> better after only a few days on the medication. After about a year, I called 
> back the internal medicine veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us 
> there was no hope, and told him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my 
> surprise - and a little bit of anger - he said that I had gone "old school" 
> and that Winstrol used to be used but then there were rumours of possible 
> liver damage associated wit
> h it, and vets stopped prescribing it. This REALLY annoyed me. My cat was 
> dying and no one thought that maybe, just maybe, some treatment - even with a 
> potential side effect - was better than no treatment??? In our experience, on 
> a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back down 
> to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We monitored 
> our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial crisis, and if 
> I thought that maybe he was looking pale again, or if the CBC came back with 
> a significantly dropping red cell count, we would put him back on the 
> Winstrol for a 4 to 6 week period, and it would fix him right up.
> 
> The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him 
> to eat when he was so very sick.
> 
> I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and 
> when he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day 
> for a maintenance dose. I would pair it with prednisone (5 mg) and 
> Doxycycline (50 mg) as well.
> 
> I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a 
> science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory 
> medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using 
> this knowledge. I have since used Winstrol in my cats in a number of other 
> situations where vets have told me there is no hope, and I have to say that 
> it has come through more often than not.
> 
> I therefore could not understand the reluctance of the veterinary - and 
> medical community for that matter - to consider Winstrol, especially in 
> circumstances where vets are telling pet owners that there are no other 
> options and their kitten or cat will die.
> 
> I have had to do a fair amount of internet research and spoken to a number of 
> veterinarians about this. I have personally concluded that 

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Gloria]

Amani-
FYI
Sandy said FIV, not FeLV-not sure if it makes any difference, tho’.❤️
Gloria


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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy
> 
> I will step in here, and repeat what I have told so many others on this 
> chatline.
> 
> I am cutting and pasting from one of my first ever posts on this forum:
> 
> I would like to share what I think is very important information with others 
> who have cats diagnosed with Feline Leukemia.
> 
> 
> "I am new to this forum so I don't know if my post (below) can be seen by 
> other members of the discussion forum. If so, I apologize for reposting it a 
> few times today in response to a few of the posts.
> 
> I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and died 
> from something else that I don't believe was related to the leukemia. When 
> the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying with 
> leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to nothing and 
> I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up his numbers to 
> any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some Winstrol I had in 
> the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for another cat. 
> 
> This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we 
> were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After 
> being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to climb 
> very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets couldn't 
> believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of the woods 
> in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of his ears, 
> gums and pads to check the status of his profound anemia, and to our 
> unbelievable joy, he began to get pink and his lab results just kept getting 
> better after only a few days on the medication. After about a year, I called 
> back the internal medicine veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us 
> there was no hope, and told him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my 
> surprise - and a little bit of anger - he said that I had gone "old school" 
> and that Winstrol used to be used but then there were rumours of possible 
> liver damage associated wit
> h it, and vets stopped prescribing it. This REALLY annoyed me. My cat was 
> dying and no one thought that maybe, just maybe, some treatment - even with a 
> potential side effect - was better than no treatment??? In our experience, on 
> a few occasions the liver enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back down 
> to normal fairly quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We monitored 
> our beautiful Zander very closely during and after his initial crisis, and if 
> I thought that maybe he was looking pale again, or if the CBC came back with 
> a significantly dropping red cell count, we would put him back on the 
> Winstrol for a 4 to 6 week period, and it would fix him right up.
> 
> The Winstrol also really helped to increase his appetite so I could get him 
> to eat when he was so very sick.
> 
> I used it at a level of 1 mg two times a day when he was really sick, and 
> when he started to recover, I cut it back to 1 mg a day, or even 1/2 mg a day 
> for a maintenance dose. I would pair it with prednisone (5 mg) and 
> Doxycycline (50 mg) as well.
> 
> I have looked after a very large number of strays over the years and I have a 
> science and medicine background in science and microbiology and laboratory 
> medicine, so I tested and analyzed the lab results we were getting, using 
> this knowledge. I have since used Winstrol in my cats in a number of other 
> situations where vets have told me there is no hope, and I have to say that 
> it has come through more often than not.
> 
> I therefore could not understand the reluctance of the veterinary - and 
> medical community for that matter - to consider Winstrol, especially in 
> circumstances where vets are telling pet owners that there are no other 
> options and their kitten or cat will die.
> 
> I have had to do a fair amount of internet research and spoken to a number of 
> veterinarians about this. I have personally concluded that due to the 
> association of Winstrol with athletic doping scandals, the scientific 
> community as a whole has decided to abandon what might indeed be a promising 
> drug. This saddens me but I simply can see no other explanation. I mean 
> really - does it make sense to hear from vets that the drug MAY cause liver 
> disease, when your animal is dying Wouldn't you give that option in those 
> circumstances, and let the pet owner understand the risks??? Personally, I 
> think that the risk of permanent liver damage is not a significant risk. The 
> information I have been able to find - buried so very deeply as to be almost 
> unable to be found on the Internet - points to any change in the liver 
> enzymes as being transitory and not representing any 

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Amani Oakley]

arting to go up from basically a zero level). He 
was eating and looking better, so I grit my teeth and proceeded with the 
Winstrol. I suspect that many vets might have abandoned ship at that point, and 
pulled the Winstrol before it had had an opportunity to really have the desired 
effect, but my vet was at least good enough to recognize that if this treatment 
didn't work, my cat was out of luck, and she allowed me to continue on with the 
Winstrol since Zander was doing better in so many other ways.

This was also our experience when I used Winstrol in another very elderly cat 
who had a large and aggressive sarcoma in her sinus cavity, and again who was 
not expected to live very long. She lived another 3 years after the diagnosis 
(she was around 19 when she passed away), and I believe that the Winstrol 
helped immensely in getting her to keep eating, and to keep the swelling under 
control. With her, we definitely found that her liver enzymes spiked 
dramatically with the use of the Winstrol, but settled down immediately with a 
brief discontinuance of the drug.

Zander died at age 7 from cardiomyopathy - nothing to do with his liver. I 
tortured myself with thoughts that maybe the Winstrol had caused the 
cardiomyopathy, and for all I know, it did. However, again, I did a fair amount 
of research and initially, I found references to a link between Winstrol and 
cardiac damage, but the link was pretty tenuous at best, and seemed to be 
suspected in athletes who had taken Winstrol at 100 X the recommended dosages 
for years and years. My guilt has never gone away because of course, you never 
know, but what I do know is that I would have lost him when he was only a year 
old. If the Winstrol managed to give me 6 more very good years with my cat, who 
played and was exceptionally affectionate and showed an extreme happiness with 
his life, then I would have to say I have no hesitation in doing it again.
 
What I find truly bizarre is that given the death sentence that this disease 
represents to cats, it should be very simple indeed to (a) have vets try the 
Winstrol and see what their experience is with it (with the proviso that they 
shouldn't pull a cat off the Winstrol just because the liver enzymes start to 
go up) and (b) why haven't there been some decent clinical trials with this 
stuff? The cats are zero given probability of surviving this disease. Even if 
Winstrol only works sometimes, that is better than the odds we are given for 
these cats at the moment."



Sandy - let me also point out that with further experience, I am now very 
firmly of the view that it was the combination of Doxycycline, Winstrol 
(stanozalol) and prednisone that was effective. Doxycycline is an antibiotic 
which has interesting and effective properties against other viruses and 
parasites as well. It is my hypothesis that the Doxycycline prevents the FeLV 
virus from properly replicating (as it has been scientifically established to 
interfere with cell wall synthesis in some other viruses), and simultaneously, 
the WInstrol works on the bone marrow to get it to turn back on and start 
producing the progenitor cells (immatures) of the red cell, white cell and 
platelet lines. Winstrol is used in humans for severe and intractable 
hereditary anemia, and of course, athletes use it to build up muscle and heal 
injured tissues.

You will need the compounding pharmacy to get the Winstrol, and you will need a 
vet who is onside. Some people on this forum have had good success with this 
combination of medication.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Sandy Millard
Sent: October 17, 2018 2:18 AM
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Cc: gcm...@comcast.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

I adopted 2 male cats with fiv. Can anyone give me info to help minimize the 
symptoms of upper respiratory infections?

I am using homeopathic nasal, cough, and immune support in their food and 
water.  Is there a product that will boost what i am already using? 
Sandy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Gloria]

Compounding pharmacy link-don’t have to join website to read info: 
https://www.pharmacist.com/frequently-asked-questions-about-pharmaceutical-compounding

A compound pharmacy will prepare prescription in the dose that your vet 
(or doctor) prescribes —- whereas a regular pharmacy only gives you meds that 
are already prepared by a pharmaceutical company


-g 
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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 4:05 AM, Sandy Millard  wrote:
> 
> Thank you. What do you mean "a compound pharmacy"?
> After reading as much as possible, all I can do is keep Sonny comfortable and 
> make sure he eats good food.
> I dread what is to come. 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
> 
> From: gloriajh...@verizon.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: gcm...@comcast.net
> Sent: 2018-10-17 3:37:54 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent
> 
> I would get an antibiotic to help their compromised immune system and suggest 
> a compound pharmacy to provide a liquid form- I’m no vet, and do not have 
> medical training , so, take this as a layman talking-I currently have 15 cats 
> in our home-strictly inside only-so take this as only a layperson 
> sharing—imho- you need a stronger solution as you evaluate the risks.
> So sorry you’re struggling with this, it’s hard, I know!❤️❤️
> Gloria
> 
> -g 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Sandy Millard  wrote:
>> 
>> I adopted 2 male cats with fiv. Can anyone give me info to help minimize the 
>> symptoms of upper respiratory infections?
>> 
>> I am using homeopathic nasal, cough, and immune support in their food and 
>> water.  Is there a product that will boost what i am already using? 
>> Sandy
>> gcm...@comcast.net
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Sandy Millard]

Thank you. What do you mean "a compound pharmacy"?
After reading as much as possible, all I can do is keep Sonny comfortable and 
make sure he eats good food.
I dread what is to come. 


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From: gloriajh...@verizon.net
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Cc: gcm...@comcast.net
Sent: 2018-10-17 3:37:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

I would get an antibiotic to help their compromised immune system and suggest a 
compound pharmacy to provide a liquid form- I’m no vet, and do not have medical 
training , so, take this as a layman talking-I currently have 15 cats in our 
home-strictly inside only-so take this as only a layperson sharing—imho- you 
need a stronger solution as you evaluate the risks.
 So sorry you’re struggling with this, it’s hard, I know!❤️❤️
Gloria

-g 
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> On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Sandy Millard  wrote:
> 
> I adopted 2 male cats with fiv. Can anyone give me info to help minimize the 
> symptoms of upper respiratory infections?
> 
> I am using homeopathic nasal, cough, and immune support in their food and 
> water.  Is there a product that will boost what i am already using? 
> Sandy
> gcm...@comcast.net
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Gloria]

I would get an antibiotic to help their compromised immune system and suggest a 
compound pharmacy to provide a liquid form- I’m no vet, and do not have medical 
training , so, take this as a layman talking-I currently have 15 cats in our 
home-strictly inside only-so take this as only a layperson sharing—imho- you 
need a stronger solution as you evaluate the risks.
 So sorry you’re struggling with this, it’s hard, I know!❤️❤️
Gloria

-g 
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> On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Sandy Millard  wrote:
> 
> I adopted 2 male cats with fiv. Can anyone give me info to help minimize the 
> symptoms of upper respiratory infections?
> 
> I am using homeopathic nasal, cough, and immune support in their food and 
> water.  Is there a product that will boost what i am already using? 
> Sandy
> gcm...@comcast.net
> 
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[Felvtalk] Felv positive support urgent

[Sandy Millard]

I adopted 2 male cats with fiv. Can anyone give me info to help minimize the 
symptoms of upper respiratory infections?

I am using homeopathic nasal, cough, and immune support in their food and 
water.  Is there a product that will boost what i am already using? 
Sandy
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV induced non-regenerative anemia treatment question

[Amani Oakley]

I think you’re low on the doxycycline. If you’re going to give it twice a day, 
stick to ¼ twice a day.

Also, if Oliver has trouble keeping food down (as my Zander did when I put this 
“protocol” together) I added metoclopramide ¼ tablet a little before I would 
feed him.

Amani

From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of Oliver Mccann
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV induced non-regenerative anemia treatment question

Hi everyone,

My cat Oliver is 3.5 and has been diagnosed with FeLV and appears to have non 
regenerative anemia. So far he has been through 5 blood transfusions over the 
last month, the first 3 in the hospital in the first 6 days, and now he seems 
to be about a week to nine days in between. We couldn't get him stable enough 
to do a bone marrow aspiration before we started him on steroids so we don't 
have the full picture, but I want to do whatever I can to help.

I have perused the archives and I think I have come up with a treatment plan 
but I want to run it by everyone to see if I am doing it right.

So far I have seen the best treatment option to be


Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day



Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day



Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day
This is the most common treatment I see you guys recommend. Right now he is 
only on Prednisolone.

I have read about Acemannan and Sodium Ascorbate treatments that may work but I 
haven't seen any info on that in the archives. Also what so you guys think 
about LTCI?

Thanks is advance. We have insurance on the little guy so $$ is not much of a 
problem. We are willing to try anything.

Cheers,

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[Felvtalk] FeLV induced non-regenerative anemia treatment question

[Oliver Mccann]

Hi everyone,
My cat Oliver is 3.5 and has been diagnosed with FeLV and appears to have non 
regenerative anemia. So far he has been through 5 blood transfusions over the 
last month, the first 3 in the hospital in the first 6 days, and now he seems 
to be about a week to nine days in between. We couldn't get him stable enough 
to do a bone marrow aspiration before we started him on steroids so we don't 
have the full picture, but I want to do whatever I can to help. 
I have perused the archives and I think I have come up with a treatment plan 
but I want to run it by everyone to see if I am doing it right. 
So far I have seen the best treatment option to be 
Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day

Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day

Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a dayThis is the most common treatment I 
see you guys recommend. Right now he is only on Prednisolone. 
I have read about Acemannan and Sodium Ascorbate treatments that may work but I 
haven't seen any info on that in the archives. Also what so you guys think 
about LTCI?
Thanks is advance. We have insurance on the little guy so $$ is not much of a 
problem. We are willing to try anything.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV transmission

[Theresa O'Rourke]

Thank you Robert,
I’m preparing the cat’s room with his own blankets, toys,
Tower, and will clean everything well after! I’m not worrying about it like 
before,
Because you all sent me back very good feedback and ideas! I really appreciate 
it!

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> On Nov 23, 2017, at 3:21 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> 
> to bolster what Amani wrote. Felv appears to be a minor risk for adult cats 
> who did not get the disease from the queen at birth. It is a MAJOR risk for 
> kittens born with the disease who still show it at 6 months. I wouldnt worry 
> terribly about adults getting it from a kittenwould definitely worry 
> abiut exposing kittens to a disease carrying adult OR kittenalso Caution 
> with FIV adults
> 
> 
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> to bolster what Amani wrote. Felv appears to be a minor risk for adult cats 
> who did not get the disease from the queen at birth. It is a MAJOR risk for 
> kittens born with the disease who still show it at 6 months. I wouldnt worry 
> terribly about adults getting it from a kittenwould definitely worry 
> abiut exposing kittens to a disease carrying adult OR kittenalso Caution 
> with FIV adults
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>> From: Theresa O'Rourke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection 
>>> would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case 
>>> event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been 
>>> fairly pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) 
>>> and even though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the 
>>> house. I have since read repeatedly that it really isn?t that infectious, 
>>> especially with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Theresa O'Rourke
>>> Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM
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>>> 
>>> I have three cats, and take care of other people?s cats.
>>> My daughter?s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate 
>>> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after 
>>> the cat goes back home?  It?s because I take care of other  friend?s cats 
>>> also and want to know if they can catch The disease.
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[Felvtalk] FeLV transmission

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

to bolster what Amani wrote. Felv appears to be a minor risk for adult 
cats who did not get the disease from the queen at birth. It is a MAJOR 
risk for kittens born with the disease who still show it at 6 months. I 
wouldnt worry terribly about adults getting it from a kittenwould 
definitely worry abiut exposing kittens to a disease carrying adult OR 
kittenalso Caution with FIV adults



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Thank you!

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On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Amani Oakley  wrote:

We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was 
infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the 
infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) 
That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy 
(it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in the 
house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and 
groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read 
repeatedly that it really isn?t that infectious, especially with 
adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens.


Amani

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Of Theresa O'Rourke

Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question

I have three cats, and take care of other people?s cats.
My daughter?s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a 
separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean 
the room, after the cat goes back home?  It?s because I take care of 
other  friend?s cats also and want to know if they can catch The 
disease.

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:28:57 -0500
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Actually, Feline Leukemia can also be transmitted through ?friendly? 
contact.  Sharing food/water and grooming each other over a period of 
time.
The virus only lives for a few hours in the environment, so really 
just cleaning out the food/water bowls and litter box after the cat 
leaves should suffice, and check to see if any wet spots on floor, 
etc. from water or urine and disinfect just to be on the safe side.


You might want to have different shoes on too?  and clothes, if you 
will be playing with and handling the cat a lot, in case drools on 
you?but that might be going overboard.  Definitely wash hands after 
handling...


Shelley


On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote:

My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact 
with blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted 
primarily through a bite.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Question

I have three cats, and take care of other people?s cats.
My daughter?s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a 
separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean 
the room, after the cat goes back home?  It?s because I take care of 
other  friend?s cats also and want to know if they can catch

The disease.
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[Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitten with mild CH in North Carolina needs a home

[Katherine K.]

Who needs a buddy for their FeLV baby?

Urgent request from Davidson County Humane Society in North Carolina. Can
anyone adopt a kitten who has tested positive for FeLV and has some mild
neurological problems (cerebellar hypoplasia)? There's a photo and video of
her on their Facebook page; she's a little brown tabby.

The shelter is desperate since she's currently being boarded at a vet and
they are being charged daily for her boarding fees. I'm an hour and a half
away and can help with transport. No info yet on what kind of test she was
given.

Davidson Humane Society
(336) 248-2706
Lexington, North Carolina


If the timing was different for me and my FeLV cat, I would consider her
but I just can't right now. :(
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[Margo]

I went thru the lymph node thing with one cat three years ago. All external 
nodes were the size of a golfball. His were so bad internally that they 
obstructed his bowel. He was in a household with FeLV+s, so we assumed 
lymphosarcoma. I took him in, and it was my first contact with a new Vet. I 
told her I had no desire to put a dying cat thru very much, if she could just 
relieve the constipation, and try to shrink the nodes, I'd just take him home 
and make him comfortable. She (surprisingly, to me) didn't quibble, gave him an 
enema, prescribed an antibiotic (I chose Zenequin), and a course of 
prednisolone. He recovered completely, and there's never been a recurrence. 

I don't know if he's FeLV+. None of us expected him to live, so no bloodwork 
was done. 

Just my experience.

Margo


-Original Message- 
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: Feb 25, 2017 9:15 AM
>To: Molly Mou <mollymou...@yahoo.com>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat
>
>I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer.
>
> Molly Mou <mollymou...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
>>  I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was diagnosed 
>> with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her to the vet’s 
>> initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem premandibular, 
>> prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals wereenlarged. A needle 
>> aspirate of the lymph nodes result was hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White 
>> blood cell count was normal, but she was anemic, butnot to the point of 
>> needing a transfusion.I was devastated and stunned at this diagnosis because 
>> she(the whole litter) was tested as kittens for FIV and FeLv and were 
>> negative. Myvet said the disease can stay in the bone marrow. I have her 
>> brother who isasymptomatic – confusing. I haven’t had him tested yet for 
>> FeLv yet.My vet recommended treatment with Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per 
>> Plumb’s is an IV injection twice weekly for two weeks, then 1injection once 
>> weekly for 21 weeks. She is now in her 4th week oftreatment. For the first 
>> two weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and becamesofter. But after the 2nd 
>> week her lymph nodes are raging againdespite the treatments. She is eating 
>> well, but not very active. Has anyone had experience with this treatment or 
>> any othertreatment(s) or advice to help my little girl? Thanks in advance,  
>> Pat Peterson
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Molly

I tried Immunoregulin for a long time with my FeLV little boy, but it was 
completely ineffective. You need to be doing regular (weekly or every other 
week) blood testing, to monitor whether the Immunoregulin is helping or not.

If not, then don’t run through the full 21 weeks. There would be no point and 
you will waste valuable time while she worsens.

I had good luck using a combination of Doxycycline (1/2 100 mg twice a day) 
plus Winstrol (1 mg x2 day) plus prednisone/prednisolone (1/2 5 mg tablet x2 a 
day). Even on this protocol, I recommend close weekly or bi-weekly monitoring 
so you can see if you start getting a rise in the red cell indices, etc. Don’t 
let your vet talk you out of one or another of these medications. You can’t 
substitute another antibiotic for the Doxycycline, for example. Doxycycline has 
anti-RNA properties (which allows it to interfere with the replication of 
viruses when other antibiotics don’t do this.)

Some people in this group have also reported excellent results with “Zander’s 
Protocol” while others have not. I am hypothesizing that this may be due to the 
fact that it appears there may be as many as five different strains of the 
virus, so perhaps the different strains respond or don’t respond to certain 
things. The other thing that may affect outcome is timing. The virus shuts down 
the bone marrow by killing or taking over the cells in the bone marrow. At some 
point, there will be little in the bone marrow to turn back on (which it 
appears the Winstrol can do in some instances).

Amani

P.S. – For those of you keeping score, I have corrected my previous description 
of Zander’s Protocol because I found an old pill bottle and realized I had been 
giving him ½ a 100 mg Doxy tablet twice a day, not a ¼ tablet as I had 
previously reported. Sorry for any confusion.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Molly 
Mou
Sent: February-24-17 9:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Mia kitty was diagnosed 
with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. I took her to the vet’s 
initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all of them premandibular, 
prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals were enlarged.
A needle aspirate of the lymph nodes result was hyperplasia, no lymphosarcoma. 
White blood cell count was normal, but she was anemic, but not to the point of 
needing a transfusion.
I was devastated and stunned at this diagnosis because she (the whole litter) 
was tested as kittens for FIV and FeLv and were negative. My vet said the 
disease can stay in the bone marrow. I have her brother who is asymptomatic – 
confusing. I haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv yet.
My vet recommended treatment with Immunoregulin. The protocol per Plumb’s is an 
IV injection twice weekly for two weeks, then 1 injection once weekly for 21 
weeks. She is now in her 4th week of treatment.
For the first two weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and became softer. But after 
the 2nd week her lymph nodes are raging again despite the treatments. She is 
eating well, but not very active.
Has anyone had experience with this treatment or any other treatment(s) or 
advice to help my little girl?

Thanks in advance,

Pat Peterson
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[Katherine K.]

;
> Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat
> with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed
> lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the
> vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need
> a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The
> vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case
> we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV
> positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him
> which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was
> going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went
> forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had
> him on doxycycline  in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone.
> Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that
> and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other
> suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull
> through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's
> in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated,
> and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be
> separated. She's not FeLV positive.
>
> Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we
> incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is
> interested.
> http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk
>
> Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
>
> --
> *From: *dlg...@windstream.net
> *To: *"Molly Mou" <mollymou...@yahoo.com>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:15:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat
>
> I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer.
>
>  Molly Mou <mollymou...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >  I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was
> diagnosed with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her
> to the vet’s initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem
> premandibular, prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals
> wereenlarged. A needle aspirate of the lymph nodes result was
> hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White blood cell count was normal, but she
> was anemic, butnot to the point of needing a transfusion.I was devastated
> and stunned at this diagnosis because she(the whole litter) was tested as
> kittens for FIV and FeLv and were negative. Myvet said the disease can stay
> in the bone marrow. I have her brother who isasymptomatic – confusing. I
> haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv yet.My vet recommended treatment with
> Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per Plumb’s is an IV injection twice weekly for
> two weeks, then 1injection once weekly for 21 weeks. She is now in her 4th
> week oftreatment. For the first two weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and
> becamesofter. But after the 2nd week her lymph nodes are raging
> againdespite the treatments. She is eating well, but not very active. Has
> anyone had experience with this treatment or any othertreatment(s) or
> advice to help my little girl? Thanks in advance,  Pat Peterson
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[Sandy]

l be 
able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know 
if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, 
unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be 
separated. She's not FeLV positive. 

Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and 
I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. 
http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk 

Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. 

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 

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From: dlg...@windstream.net 
To: "Molly Mou" <mollymou...@yahoo.com>, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:15:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat 

I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer. 

 Molly Mou <mollymou...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was diagnosed 
> with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her to the vet’s 
> initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem premandibular, 
> prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals wereenlarged. A needle 
> aspirate of the lymph nodes result was hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White 
> blood cell count was normal, but she was anemic, butnot to the point of 
> needing a transfusion.I was devastated and stunned at this diagnosis because 
> she(the whole litter) was tested as kittens for FIV and FeLv and were 
> negative. Myvet said the disease can stay in the bone marrow. I have her 
> brother who isasymptomatic – confusing. I haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv 
> yet.My vet recommended treatment with Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per Plumb’s 
> is an IV injection twice weekly for two weeks, then 1injection once weekly 
> for 21 weeks. She is now in her 4th week oftreatment. For the first two 
> weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and becamesofter. But after the 2nd week her 
> lymph nodes are raging againdespite the treatments. She is eating well, but 
> not very active. Has anyone had experience with this treatment or any 
> othertreatment(s) or advice to help my little girl? Thanks in advance, Pat 
> Peterson 


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[dlgegg]

I haave had no problems with this, all I can offer is prayer.

 Molly Mou  wrote: 
>  I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was diagnosed 
> with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her to the vet’s 
> initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem premandibular, 
> prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals wereenlarged. A needle 
> aspirate of the lymph nodes result was hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White 
> blood cell count was normal, but she was anemic, butnot to the point of 
> needing a transfusion.I was devastated and stunned at this diagnosis because 
> she(the whole litter) was tested as kittens for FIV and FeLv and were 
> negative. Myvet said the disease can stay in the bone marrow. I have her 
> brother who isasymptomatic – confusing. I haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv 
> yet.My vet recommended treatment with Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per Plumb’s 
> is an IV injection twice weekly for two weeks, then 1injection once weekly 
> for 21 weeks. She is now in her 4th week oftreatment. For the first two 
> weeks, her lymph nodes decreased and becamesofter. But after the 2nd week her 
> lymph nodes are raging againdespite the treatments. She is eating well, but 
> not very active. Has anyone had experience with this treatment or any 
> othertreatment(s) or advice to help my little girl? Thanks in advance,  Pat 
> Peterson


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[Felvtalk] FeLv Positive cat

[Molly Mou]

 I am new to the list. Three weeks ago my 5-year old Miakitty was diagnosed 
with FeLv. The ELISA test showed slightly + for FeLv. Itook her to the vet’s 
initially because her lymph nodes were raging – all ofthem premandibular, 
prescapular, inguinal all the way to the popliteals wereenlarged. A needle 
aspirate of the lymph nodes result was hyperplasia,no lymphosarcoma. White 
blood cell count was normal, but she was anemic, butnot to the point of needing 
a transfusion.I was devastated and stunned at this diagnosis because she(the 
whole litter) was tested as kittens for FIV and FeLv and were negative. Myvet 
said the disease can stay in the bone marrow. I have her brother who 
isasymptomatic – confusing. I haven’t had him tested yet for FeLv yet.My vet 
recommended treatment with Immunoregulin. Theprotocol per Plumb’s is an IV 
injection twice weekly for two weeks, then 1injection once weekly for 21 weeks. 
She is now in her 4th week oftreatment. For the first two weeks, her lymph 
nodes decreased and becamesofter. But after the 2nd week her lymph nodes are 
raging againdespite the treatments. She is eating well, but not very active. 
Has anyone had experience with this treatment or any othertreatment(s) or 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Sanctuaries..

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Jennifer...

You had inquired about rescues and sancuaries and I couldn't recall too 
many the other day... I've added a few below this is hardly a 
comprehensive list  Every time you do a search different ones will 
come up...  and it also depends on the search engine..


Meanwhile here are a couple of the places that I located along the 
way.   I can't vouch for how helpful they would be to you but... 
it's a start if you care to follow up.   Thought I also saw a note 
from you ON the Merrimack River Rescue Site???...



Unfortuneately I'm going to have to give them to you my name rather than 
as links because I've tried numerous times to send links and my mailers 
content scanner is picking up " spam "   I don't know which of the 
sites below is regarded as spam ( I didn't get any warning about going 
to any of the sites initially_ so I am flumoxed ..



The first is a place called Second chance rescue in the State of 
Washington...  You'll have to google it because ( as I mentioned 
above...if I format it as a URL the mail might again bounce...   Another 
is _ pawsativekarmarescue... they are in texas and sound like a very 
small operation may not still exist as last information was from 
@2013


Another is the Felineleukemiacarecenter... they are based in 
Minnesota they at least mention that they charge a surrender fee... 
 Unable to say if they are of any quality or not ALL must be checked 
out thoroughly before sending an animal to them if you want to be sure 
of it's safety...



Then there is the bestfriends sanctuary in Utah They are a very 
large operation that has been around quite a few years and provide a 
home to many hundreds of animals ( per their website and other info I 
have seen_ They put out a good blog and their site is also a good source 
of general information...



The last two are worth checking out as well.   
 Loveandhopeforanimals ( another well funded operation in Upstate New 
York and  Aslanscats also in the Northeast






http://loveandhopeforanimals.org( a well funded sanctuary in Northern 
New York State...definitely worth a look if you are not too far away...


Thanks for your kindness to this little guy if it weren't for people 
like you and our other group members a LOT more cats would be living 
MUCH more difficult lives.


Have to get going I volunteer at my Local Shelter and try to get 
there for a few hours on Sundays.Again.  I'd keep the boy if 
you possibly can...  maybe work out an arrangement with you local 
shelter ( if they are a no kill) to help with Vet bills if he turns out 
to be a sick guy ( I adopted two FeLV cats...one cost me dearly 
financially as he was sick from the get gothe other guy is going to 
the vet for the first time tomorrow ( apart from being looked at by the 
shelter vet a few times. I want him to have baseline bloodwork and a 
good physical , fecal and his 1 year Rabies ( I'm still in a quandry 
about doing or not doing the Rabies but some vet practices will not 
see cats UNLESS they've been innoculated...



Best,
Bob



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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Sanctuaries..

[dlgegg]

If she is looking for a place to take them for life, C>W> RUSTIC HOLLOW is a no 
kill shelter and takes felv positive cats.  That is where I plan to send my 
babies when I pass on.
It cost $$, but I am assured they will not be ut to sleep, just kept for the 
rest of their lives.
 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Jennifer...

A few days back you had inquired about FeLV rescues and 
sanctuaries   When I got my FeLV boys I searched the Web for just 
such resources...not to transfer them but to be prepared with places 
they might go in the even something happened to me AND , specifically, 
to call them and ask their advice about how to care for my boys ( this 
was before I found this list)... I wanted to talk to people who spent a 
lot of time with multiple FeLV cats   Found that some folks were 
just nice folks that were providing homes and other were pretty well 
funded and set up with good PR...active boards and had a decent track 
record of adoption   I'm very sorry that I don't have the contacts 
right now  I put them on my PC somewhere and now don't know 
precisely where but... a couple of google searches with FeLV Rescue FeLV 
SanctuaryFelV adoption as the search terms and you will turn up 
quite a few   Off hand I recall
Blind Cat Rescue and Merrimack River ( in Mass) as two 
possibilities  The name's Aslan and Seer Farms also stick in my 
mind but I can't be more specific than that at the moment   FEW 
I imagine are going to immediately welcome new additions but it's always 
been my experience that if you get to know people at one placethey 
know people at another placeetc...etc and sooner or later you hit on 
someone that can offer assistance..   BTW  I'm absolutely with 
Amani on this one.    If your other cats are no longer kittens...( 
say 1.5 years and up) I'd vaccinate them and let your other little love 
join them  I have yet to hear of FeLV being passed from Kitten to 
Adult   I'd worry a LOT in reverse and would not put a very young 
negative cat in with FeLV positive adults.. But..as always...it's what 
YOU are comfortable with.   I just know that some cats really do a 
LOT better with company... my remaining boy ( I lost one of my guys just 
a short while ago after a brief life of constant illness) is VERY 
affiliative and I ended up adopting him BECAUSE I could see that he was 
dying to be with company Other cats... not so much... Your guy sound 
much like my own remaining guy and I'd really be inclined to let him 
have he company.

Bob


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[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Jennifer...

A few days back you had inquired about FeLV rescues and 
sanctuaries   When I got my FeLV boys I searched the Web for just 
such resources...not to transfer them but to be prepared with places 
they might go in the even something happened to me AND , specifically, 
to call them and ask their advice about how to care for my boys ( this 
was before I found this list)... I wanted to talk to people who spent a 
lot of time with multiple FeLV cats   Found that some folks were 
just nice folks that were providing homes and other were pretty well 
funded and set up with good PR...active boards and had a decent track 
record of adoption   I'm very sorry that I don't have the contacts 
right now  I put them on my PC somewhere and now don't know 
precisely where but... a couple of google searches with FeLV Rescue FeLV 
SanctuaryFelV adoption as the search terms and you will turn up 
quite a few   Off hand I recall
Blind Cat Rescue and Merrimack River ( in Mass) as two 
possibilities  The name's Aslan and Seer Farms also stick in my 
mind but I can't be more specific than that at the moment   FEW 
I imagine are going to immediately welcome new additions but it's always 
been my experience that if you get to know people at one placethey 
know people at another placeetc...etc and sooner or later you hit on 
someone that can offer assistance..   BTW  I'm absolutely with 
Amani on this one.    If your other cats are no longer kittens...( 
say 1.5 years and up) I'd vaccinate them and let your other little love 
join them  I have yet to hear of FeLV being passed from Kitten to 
Adult   I'd worry a LOT in reverse and would not put a very young 
negative cat in with FeLV positive adults.. But..as always...it's what 
YOU are comfortable with.   I just know that some cats really do a 
LOT better with company... my remaining boy ( I lost one of my guys just 
a short while ago after a brief life of constant illness) is VERY 
affiliative and I ended up adopting him BECAUSE I could see that he was 
dying to be with company Other cats... not so much... Your guy sound 
much like my own remaining guy and I'd really be inclined to let him 
have he company.


Bob


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I'm new   =~}

On Feb 10, 2017 7:50 AM, "Rebecca Pruett" wrote:


I am .


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM Katherine K.  wrote:


I'm not a new member. Been on here for about 4 years.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:51 PM,  wrote:

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MN.  Right now I'm about to switch from oral ivermectin to Feline 
Advantage

Multi.
His fur appears to be growing back, and he must be scratching less 
because
nearly all of the scabs/ bumps are gone- BUT it would be nice to 
destroy

the mites FASTER, & without the nasty tasting oral.
Your thoughts?
Jen

On Feb 9, 2017 4:42 PM, "Margo"  wrote:


Hi Jennifer,

Thank you for taking 

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV kitten

[Margo]

 Lorrie wrote "If you had started your little guy on Winstrol a few weeks ago it
might have saved his life, but it is probably too late now."

And it might have done nothing. Th young ones seem to have little in reserve to 
let them fight the disease. No point in second-guessing what might have been, 
it can only be hurtful. If you can't find a Vet that will cooperate, there's 
not much that can be done by a lay-person, except to love them and do the best 
you can with what you have available.

Margo


-Original Message-
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>Sent: Dec 24, 2016 5:49 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV kitten
>
>Robert,  I am so sorry you are going thru this. I have lost many
>kittens who were born with the virus, which they got from their
>mother who was feral. All these precious kittens died at less than a
>year.  At first they were so playful and looked so healthy I thought
>the two tests I'd had were surely wrong, but at 8 months I started to
>lose them one by one.  The 4th and last (my favorite) made it to 11
>months.  I was devastated.
>
>On the other hand I have had several older cats at my sanctuary who must 
>have contracted the virus when older.  One died suddenly at 7 years
>old and the other is now 8 years old, and she has never been sick. 
>You never know what will happen.  
>
>If you had started your little guy on Winstrol a few weeks ago it
>might have saved his life, but it is probably too late now. 
>
>I just wanted to tell you I am so sorry, and I know what you are
>going thru.
>
>Lorrie with 13 rescued cats at home and 32 in my sanctuary.
>
>
>On 12-24, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
>> Amani et al
>> 
>> Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia in 
>> a FeLV catGot a call on Yogi's  Most Recent Bloodwork and the vet 
>> states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia  I was taken aback and 
>> didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear that she felt 
>> it was time to put the little guy down.   I am at the end of my 
>> money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of other vets hoping 
>> one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that is showing itself to 
>> be effective with others cats...( I don't think I am going to get a lot 
>> of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I gave her my opinion of 
>> her unwillingness to help me through unconventional means).Nor can I 
>> afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and more definitive narrowing of the 
>> parameters of his drop in blood values ( it's Xmas eve and they are all 
>> gone from the office)   As much as I would like to save this little 
>> guy... He has so many other things wrong with him that I don't know that 
>> I am doing him any favors. Temp is 104...weight has dropped a full 
>> pound in the last 6 months If it weren't for the fact that he is 
>> still eating heartily I'd put him down Without further treatment is 
>> it kinder to put him down or allow nature to take it's course??.The 
>> idea of him suffering from an inability to get enough O2 is 
>> unacceptable
>> any suggestions are welcome but... please...  no admonitions re: 
>> what I _ should_ do.    I have learned an immense amount from this 
>> experience and will NOT repeat it...  My other boy is still doing OK and 
>> I WILL find someone eventually that is willing to work with me..
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV kitten

[Amani Oakley]

Frankly, it is not too late at all for the Winstrol. I have seen it pull back 
cats with a much much lower haematocrit than Robert is seeing.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: December-24-16 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FelV kitten

Robert,  I am so sorry you are going thru this. I have lost many kittens who 
were born with the virus, which they got from their mother who was feral. All 
these precious kittens died at less than a year.  At first they were so playful 
and looked so healthy I thought the two tests I'd had were surely wrong, but at 
8 months I started to lose them one by one.  The 4th and last (my favorite) 
made it to 11 months.  I was devastated.

On the other hand I have had several older cats at my sanctuary who must have 
contracted the virus when older.  One died suddenly at 7 years old and the 
other is now 8 years old, and she has never been sick. 
You never know what will happen.  

If you had started your little guy on Winstrol a few weeks ago it might have 
saved his life, but it is probably too late now. 

I just wanted to tell you I am so sorry, and I know what you are going thru.

Lorrie with 13 rescued cats at home and 32 in my sanctuary.


On 12-24, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Amani et al
> 
> Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia 
> in a FeLV catGot a call on Yogi's  Most Recent Bloodwork and the 
> vet states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia  I was taken 
> aback and didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear 
> that she felt it was time to put the little guy down.   I am at 
> the end of my money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of 
> other vets hoping one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that 
> is showing itself to be effective with others cats...( I don't think I 
> am going to get a lot of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I 
> gave her my opinion of her unwillingness to help me through 
> unconventional means).Nor can I afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and 
> more definitive narrowing of the parameters of his drop in blood 
> values ( it's Xmas eve and they are all gone from the office)   As 
> much as I would like to save this little guy... He has so many other 
> things wrong with him that I don't know that I am doing him any 
> favors. Temp is 104...weight has dropped a full pound in the last 
> 6 months If it weren't for the fact that he is still eating 
> heartily I'd put him down Without further treatment is it kinder 
> to put him down or allow nature to take it's course??.The idea of 
> him suffering from an inability to get enough O2 is unacceptable
> any suggestions are welcome but... please...  no admonitions re: 
> what I _ should_ do.    I have learned an immense amount from this 
> experience and will NOT repeat it...  My other boy is still doing OK 
> and I WILL find someone eventually that is willing to work with me..
> 

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[Felvtalk] FelV kitten

[Lorrie]

Robert,  I am so sorry you are going thru this. I have lost many
kittens who were born with the virus, which they got from their
mother who was feral. All these precious kittens died at less than a
year.  At first they were so playful and looked so healthy I thought
the two tests I'd had were surely wrong, but at 8 months I started to
lose them one by one.  The 4th and last (my favorite) made it to 11
months.  I was devastated.

On the other hand I have had several older cats at my sanctuary who must 
have contracted the virus when older.  One died suddenly at 7 years
old and the other is now 8 years old, and she has never been sick. 
You never know what will happen.  

If you had started your little guy on Winstrol a few weeks ago it
might have saved his life, but it is probably too late now. 

I just wanted to tell you I am so sorry, and I know what you are
going thru.

Lorrie with 13 rescued cats at home and 32 in my sanctuary.


On 12-24, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote:
> Amani et al
> 
> Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia in 
> a FeLV catGot a call on Yogi's  Most Recent Bloodwork and the vet 
> states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia  I was taken aback and 
> didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear that she felt 
> it was time to put the little guy down.   I am at the end of my 
> money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of other vets hoping 
> one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that is showing itself to 
> be effective with others cats...( I don't think I am going to get a lot 
> of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I gave her my opinion of 
> her unwillingness to help me through unconventional means).Nor can I 
> afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and more definitive narrowing of the 
> parameters of his drop in blood values ( it's Xmas eve and they are all 
> gone from the office)   As much as I would like to save this little 
> guy... He has so many other things wrong with him that I don't know that 
> I am doing him any favors. Temp is 104...weight has dropped a full 
> pound in the last 6 months If it weren't for the fact that he is 
> still eating heartily I'd put him down Without further treatment is 
> it kinder to put him down or allow nature to take it's course??.The 
> idea of him suffering from an inability to get enough O2 is 
> unacceptable
> any suggestions are welcome but... please...  no admonitions re: 
> what I _ should_ do.    I have learned an immense amount from this 
> experience and will NOT repeat it...  My other boy is still doing OK and 
> I WILL find someone eventually that is willing to work with me..
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

For the uti/turvite crystals, try an eye dropper of Bragg's raw vinegar in his 
watr.  Harley had this problem and after I started the vinegar, no more 
problems with crystals.


 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote: 
>  
Thank you everyone I am feeling better this morning your kind words mean the 
world to me.

One of my girlfriends had a double mastectomy and chemo and thank god she has 
been cancer free for four years. She also said if it comes back she will not do 
chemo again only alternative.

I might have already told you this so I am sorry if I am repeating (and that my 
post is so long!) Tucker had a urinary blockage, and it resulted in a catheter 
being placed at the emergency vet to save his life. When they removed the 
catheter he blocked right back up. I opted to do the pu surgery where they 
remove the penis and pull the urethra to make it wider, it was either this or 
put him down. A month or so after the surgery he blocked. I took him in and 
they could not insert a catheter, the hole had completely closed. I opted to 
redo the surgery, again it was life or death. The dr was worried he would not 
be able to pull the urethra any more as he really stretched it the first time. 
Luckily he was able to pull it past the stricture. Unfortunately the opening 
again closed quite a bit, even smaller than before surgeries, but he can still 
urinate.  He is prone to UTIs which causes crystals which in turn cause 
blockages. So I have an arsenal of meds on hand from my vet so I can treat him 
at the first sign of infection. He only eats him prescription food and I give 
him glucosamine every day. Needless to say I was in a constant state of worry 
even before the lymphoma diagnosis.
So if we didn't already have this life threatening problem and I hadn't already 
spent over 8,000 of my retirement money I probably would have jumped right on 
the chemo. 

And I still think anyone who's cats immunity is suffering because of felv 
should try the life gold, or ES clear.  It is $30 and lasts three months. It 
has a money back 90 day guarantee. I found this story on the Internet and 
decided to try the treatment plan. Yes, it might not work and chances are that 
I will lose my baby due to a blockage or the cancer but today he feels great, 
and I have a tiny bit of hope. Here is the link to the story it included chemo 
that unfortunately  didn't work and a last ditch effort holistic approach that 
by some miracle saved the day. 

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2013/06/from-incurable-to-cancer-free-in-one-year-how-nate-the-cat-survived-high-grade-lymphoma/

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2016, at 2:40 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Do what you think is best for both of you.  I will always avoid chemo and the 
> "proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo.  I will never go 
> through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through it.  Firt, all the 
> chemos they used on me did not work, all that suffering for nothing.  My 
> oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, she will follow me on my choice 
> of alternaitive medicine.  Drs. only accept their ways, chemo, surgery and 
> radiation.  
> 
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
>> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our 
>> experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want to 
>> proceed.
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> swacht
>> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll 
>> bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - 
>> it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in 
>> there.
>> Sandy W
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rachel Dagner
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in 
>> anymore strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it 
>> has been so hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But 
>> if Tucker goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and 
>> looks at me and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, 
>> heartache or whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and 
>> I have gotten the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I 
>>

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Rachel Dagner]

Yes, it was that group, and they continued to make me feel horrible even
after I tried to explain my circumstances, and why I was trying something
else. I was told over and over flat out that holistic does not work and my
cat would die soon. If my situation with Tucker was different I would have
done chemo, I would never tell someone not to do chemo on their pet. Even if
someone said they would do nothing at all "palliative care" I would support
them, as it is so painful to lose an animal no matter what you choose. I
pray every day that I am giving Tucker QOL and that he defies the odds and
lasts as long as he would have with Chemo. My parents did (very
expensive)chemo on two of their cats, and they did not do well, they
suffered as my parents had a hard time giving up, they live with a lot of
guilt for the lack of QOL. I know this is not always the case and many
animals do extremely well and even go into remission, you just never know
how an animal will respond or how long they will last. If Tucker does not
continue to do well on his current path I might consider trying traditional,
if I can somehow do it through my vet, you never know I am only on day 17
and it has been a rough journey. It would cost me about 1,000.00 just to go
and get an ultrasound and biopsy from a specialist, and I am not by any
means wealthy and have pulled a significant amount from my retirement
account to try to save Tucker from his urinary issues, and that turned out
bad anyways. Thank you for the info and understanding Margo and I will for
sure check out Holisticat as well.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Margo
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 7:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


It's very personal, and sometimes difficult choice. I don't know what my
choice would be for me, but for my animals I have chosen chemo in many
cases, and likely will again.

I'm also not sure it's fair to compare "human" chemo protocols to those used
in Veterinary Medicine. For the Vets, the goal is to extend QUALITY life,
not necessarily cure. So the treatments are calibrated to balance the
positive and the negative. For humans, it's an all out attempt to kill the
cancer without killing the patient, but they pretty much push it to the edge
of what people will/can tolerate. For animals, it's to find the highest dose
they can tolerate WITHOUT compromising QOL. I had a great Vet, who would use
the allopathic chemos, and back it up with Traditional Chinese Medicine and
alternative options. She was trained in both and had no problem using them
in a complimentary manner.

I understand choosing not to use chemo, and while I would encourage someone
to research and consider, I would TRY not to push. If it's the yahoo Feline
Lymphoma Group, yes, they can be pushy. I think it's because they have seen
such good results that they can't understand someone who won't even do a
trial. But they should back off when asked, and hopefully send the person to
a different source. Does HolistiCat still exist? They used to have a wide
range of opinions. Okay, yup!

http://www.holisticat.com/en/

If you haven't already tried them, they might be more supportive of your
decisions.

In any case, I hope that you find a way...

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: May 6, 2016 2:40 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>Do what you think is best for both of you.  I will always avoid chemo and
>the "proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo.  I will
>never go through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through it.  Firt,
>all the chemos they used on me did not work, all that suffering for
>nothing.  My oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, she will follow
>me on my choice of alternaitive medicine.  Drs. only accept their ways,
>chemo, surgery and radiation.
>
> Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our
>> experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want
>> to proceed.
>>
>> Amani
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
>> Of swacht
>> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>>
>> Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but
>> I'll bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be
>> upset - it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.
>> Hang in there.
>> Sandy W
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rac

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Rachel Dagner]

 
Thank you everyone I am feeling better this morning your kind words mean the 
world to me.

One of my girlfriends had a double mastectomy and chemo and thank god she has 
been cancer free for four years. She also said if it comes back she will not do 
chemo again only alternative.

I might have already told you this so I am sorry if I am repeating (and that my 
post is so long!) Tucker had a urinary blockage, and it resulted in a catheter 
being placed at the emergency vet to save his life. When they removed the 
catheter he blocked right back up. I opted to do the pu surgery where they 
remove the penis and pull the urethra to make it wider, it was either this or 
put him down. A month or so after the surgery he blocked. I took him in and 
they could not insert a catheter, the hole had completely closed. I opted to 
redo the surgery, again it was life or death. The dr was worried he would not 
be able to pull the urethra any more as he really stretched it the first time. 
Luckily he was able to pull it past the stricture. Unfortunately the opening 
again closed quite a bit, even smaller than before surgeries, but he can still 
urinate.  He is prone to UTIs which causes crystals which in turn cause 
blockages. So I have an arsenal of meds on hand from my vet so I can treat him 
at the first sign of infection. He only eats him prescription food and I give 
him glucosamine every day. Needless to say I was in a constant state of worry 
even before the lymphoma diagnosis.
So if we didn't already have this life threatening problem and I hadn't already 
spent over 8,000 of my retirement money I probably would have jumped right on 
the chemo. 

And I still think anyone who's cats immunity is suffering because of felv 
should try the life gold, or ES clear.  It is $30 and lasts three months. It 
has a money back 90 day guarantee. I found this story on the Internet and 
decided to try the treatment plan. Yes, it might not work and chances are that 
I will lose my baby due to a blockage or the cancer but today he feels great, 
and I have a tiny bit of hope. Here is the link to the story it included chemo 
that unfortunately  didn't work and a last ditch effort holistic approach that 
by some miracle saved the day. 

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2013/06/from-incurable-to-cancer-free-in-one-year-how-nate-the-cat-survived-high-grade-lymphoma/

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2016, at 2:40 AM, <dlg...@windstream.net> <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Do what you think is best for both of you.  I will always avoid chemo and the 
> "proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo.  I will never go 
> through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through it.  Firt, all the 
> chemos they used on me did not work, all that suffering for nothing.  My 
> oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, she will follow me on my choice 
> of alternaitive medicine.  Drs. only accept their ways, chemo, surgery and 
> radiation.  
> 
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
>> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our 
>> experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want to 
>> proceed.
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> swacht
>> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll 
>> bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - 
>> it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in 
>> there.
>> Sandy W
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rachel Dagner
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in 
>> anymore strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it 
>> has been so hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But 
>> if Tucker goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and 
>> looks at me and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, 
>> heartache or whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and 
>> I have gotten the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I 
>> feel like I have gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned 
>> online, except my friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling 
>> humans can be. I guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out he

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Margo]

It's very personal, and sometimes difficult choice. I don't know what my choice 
would be for me, but for my animals I have chosen chemo in many cases, and 
likely will again.

I'm also not sure it's fair to compare "human" chemo protocols to those used in 
Veterinary Medicine. For the Vets, the goal is to extend QUALITY life, not 
necessarily cure. So the treatments are calibrated to balance the positive and 
the negative. For humans, it's an all out attempt to kill the cancer without 
killing the patient, but they pretty much push it to the edge of what people 
will/can tolerate. For animals, it's to find the highest dose they can tolerate 
WITHOUT compromising QOL. I had a great Vet, who would use the allopathic 
chemos, and back it up with Traditional Chinese Medicine and alternative 
options. She was trained in both and had no problem using them in a 
complimentary manner.

I understand choosing not to use chemo, and while I would encourage someone to 
research and consider, I would TRY not to push. If it's the yahoo Feline 
Lymphoma Group, yes, they can be pushy. I think it's because they have seen 
such good results that they can't understand someone who won't even do a trial. 
But they should back off when asked, and hopefully send the person to a 
different source. Does HolistiCat still exist? They used to have a wide range 
of opinions. Okay, yup!

http://www.holisticat.com/en/

If you haven't already tried them, they might be more supportive of your 
decisions.

In any case, I hope that you find a way...

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: May 6, 2016 2:40 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>Do what you think is best for both of you.  I will always avoid chemo and the 
>"proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo.  I will never go 
>through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through it.  Firt, all the 
>chemos they used on me did not work, all that suffering for nothing.  My 
>oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, she will follow me on my choice 
>of alternaitive medicine.  Drs. only accept their ways, chemo, surgery and 
>radiation.  
>
> Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
>> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our 
>> experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want to 
>> proceed.
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> swacht
>> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll 
>> bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - 
>> it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in 
>> there.
>> Sandy W
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rachel Dagner
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>> 
>> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in 
>> anymore strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it 
>> has been so hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But 
>> if Tucker goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and 
>> looks at me and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, 
>> heartache or whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and 
>> I have gotten the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I 
>> feel like I have gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned 
>> online, except my friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling 
>> humans can be. I guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here 
>> on my screened porch with me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't 
>> quit crying. It's time for me to give him his worst parent in the world 
>> treatment. Maybe I should get off of all of these "support" groups. They are 
>> making me miserable. Sorry, I know I totally barged in and vented on this 
>> post. I am just feeling really upset.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> 
>> > <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them 
>> > have turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be 
>

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

That is why I prefer the company of animals to humans, they are more honest and 
their love, affection is real.


 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote: 
> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in anymore 
> strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it has been so 
> hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But if Tucker 
> goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and looks at me 
> and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, heartache or 
> whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and I have gotten 
> the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I feel like I have 
> gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned online, except my 
> friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling humans can be. I 
> guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here on my screened 
> porch with me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't quit crying. 
> It's time for me to give him his worst parent in the world treatment. Maybe I 
> should get off of all of these "support" groups. They are making me 
> miserable. Sorry, I know I totally barged in and vented on this post. I am 
> just feeling really upset.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them have 
> turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be euthanized 
> just because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are not up to date on 
> info about this.
> 
> 
>  "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
>> not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals
>> to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form
>> stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
>> positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She
>> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
>> the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The
>> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
>> other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
>> him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me
>> off list.
>> 
>> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
>>> my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
>>> would
>>> come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> dlg...@windstream.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>>> 
>>> How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
>>> point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
>>> the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
>>> When
>>> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
>>> fear,
>>> what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
>>> up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
>>> when
>>> they get there.
>>> 
>>>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Margo
>>>> 
>>>> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to
>>> pay
>>>> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
>>>> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby
>>> communities,
>>>> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so
>>> that
>>>> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>>>> 
>>>> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of
>>> money
>>>> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
>>>> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
>>>>

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

Do what you think is best for both of you.  I will always avoid chemo and the 
"proven" treatments because of my own experience with chemo.  I will never go 
through that again nor wold I put anyone I love through it.  Firt, all the 
chemos they used on me did not work, all that suffering for nothing.  My 
oncologist has agreed that if it comes back, she will follow me on my choice of 
alternaitive medicine.  Drs. only accept their ways, chemo, surgery and 
radiation.  

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our 
> experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want to 
> proceed.
> 
> Amani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> swacht
> Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> 
> Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll 
> bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - it 
> is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in there.
> Sandy W
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> 
> That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in anymore 
> strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it has been so 
> hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But if Tucker 
> goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and looks at me 
> and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, heartache or 
> whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and I have gotten 
> the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I feel like I have 
> gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned online, except my 
> friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling humans can be. I 
> guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here on my screened 
> porch with me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't quit crying. 
> It's time for me to give him his worst parent in the world treatment. Maybe I 
> should get off of all of these "support" groups. They are making me 
> miserable. Sorry, I know I totally barged in and vented on this post. I am 
> just feeling really upset.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> > <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them 
> > have turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be 
> > euthanized just because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are 
> > not up to date on info about this.
> >
> >
> >  "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, 
> >> although not in the last couple of days. She does not want to 
> >> surrender her animals to Charleston Animal Society because they would 
> >> require her to sign a form stating they could be euthanized if sick. 
> >> She most likely has the FeLV positive cat mixed with the negatives. 
> >> The positive cat needs vet care.
> >> She
> >> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for 
> >> most of the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other 
> >> person.
> >> The
> >> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming 
> >> the other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help 
> >> network him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a 
> >> photo, email me off list.
> >>
> >> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!
> >>
> >>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I 
> >>> could quit my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn 
> >>> lotto tickets would come through I could start my own maybe Sandy 
> >>> Paws of Florida.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

I agree Rachel. We have all posted about different treatments, and our 
experiences with them, but it is up to everyone to decide how they want to 
proceed.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of swacht
Sent: May-05-16 8:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll bet 
everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - it is a 
shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in there.
Sandy W

-Original Message-
From: Rachel Dagner
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in anymore 
strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it has been so 
hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But if Tucker goes 
(ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and looks at me and 
asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, heartache or 
whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and I have gotten 
the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I feel like I have 
gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned online, except my 
friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling humans can be. I guess 
that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here on my screened porch with 
me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't quit crying. It's time for 
me to give him his worst parent in the world treatment. Maybe I should get off 
of all of these "support" groups. They are making me miserable. Sorry, I know I 
totally barged in and vented on this post. I am just feeling really upset.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> <dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them 
> have turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be 
> euthanized just because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are 
> not up to date on info about this.
>
>
>  "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, 
>> although not in the last couple of days. She does not want to 
>> surrender her animals to Charleston Animal Society because they would 
>> require her to sign a form stating they could be euthanized if sick. 
>> She most likely has the FeLV positive cat mixed with the negatives. 
>> The positive cat needs vet care.
>> She
>> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for 
>> most of the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other 
>> person.
>> The
>> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming 
>> the other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help 
>> network him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a 
>> photo, email me off list.
>>
>> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!
>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I 
>>> could quit my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn 
>>> lotto tickets would come through I could start my own maybe Sandy 
>>> Paws of Florida.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>>>
>>> How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to 
>>> that point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until 
>>> I get past the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can 
>>> happen so fast.
>>> When
>>> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my 
>>> greatest fear, what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened 
>>> to me.  Trying to set up an account to transport them to Rustic 
>>> Hollow and pay for their care when they get there.
>>>
>>>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Margo
>>>>
>>>> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion 
>>>> to
>>> pay
>>>> for t

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[swacht]

Rachel please don’t apologize - I can't speak for everyone else - but I'll 
bet everyone has walked in your shoes - you have every right to be upset - 
it is a shame everyone doesn't understand - but this group does.  Hang in 
there.

Sandy W

-Original Message- 
From: Rachel Dagner

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:39 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in 
anymore strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it 
has been so hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But 
if Tucker goes (ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and 
looks at me and asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, 
heartache or whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and 
I have gotten the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I 
feel like I have gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned 
online, except my friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling 
humans can be. I guess that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here 
on my screened porch with me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't 
quit crying. It's time for me to give him his worst parent in the world 
treatment. Maybe I should get off of all of these "support" groups. They are 
making me miserable. Sorry, I know I totally barged in and vented on this 
post. I am just feeling really upset.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> 
<dlg...@windstream.net> wrote:


I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them have 
turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be euthanized 
just because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are not up to date 
on info about this.



 "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote:

I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her 
animals
to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a 
form

stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. 
She

needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. 
The

positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email 
me

off list.

Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> 
wrote:


I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could 
quit

my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
would
come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get 
past

the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
When
I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
fear,
what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to 
set

up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
when
they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

Hi Margo

I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to

pay
for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I 
am

great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby

communities,

I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so

that

shouldn’t be a big issue.

I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of

money

in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get 
a

little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these 
animals

and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of

Margo
Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).

My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can th

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Rachel Dagner]

That is wonderful they stayed negative. My mom told me not to take in anymore 
strays after what I have been through with Tucker. And I admit it has been so 
hard and sad and stressful, not to mention crazy expensive. But if Tucker goes 
(ok now I am crying again!) , if another cat comes along and looks at me and 
asks for help I wouldn't hesitate, through health problems, heartache or 
whatever. I joined another support group today for lymphoma and I have gotten 
the opposite of support because I don't have him on chemo. I feel like I have 
gotten the opposite of support everywhere I have turned online, except my 
friends and family. I feel really hurt by how unfeeling humans can be. I guess 
that's why I love animals so much. Tucker is out here on my screened porch with 
me happy as a clam, probably wondering why I can't quit crying. It's time for 
me to give him his worst parent in the world treatment. Maybe I should get off 
of all of these "support" groups. They are making me miserable. Sorry, I know I 
totally barged in and vented on this post. I am just feeling really upset.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 8:10 PM, <dlg...@windstream.net> <dlg...@windstream.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them have 
> turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be euthanized 
> just because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are not up to date on 
> info about this.
> 
> 
>  "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
>> not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals
>> to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form
>> stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
>> positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She
>> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
>> the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The
>> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
>> other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
>> him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me
>> off list.
>> 
>> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
>>> my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
>>> would
>>> come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> dlg...@windstream.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>>> 
>>> How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
>>> point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
>>> the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
>>> When
>>> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
>>> fear,
>>> what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
>>> up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
>>> when
>>> they get there.
>>> 
>>>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Margo
>>>> 
>>>> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to
>>> pay
>>>> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
>>>> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby
>>> communities,
>>>> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so
>>> that
>>>> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>>>> 
>>>> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of
>>> money
>>>> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
>>>> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
>>>> little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
>>>> becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
>>>> and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
>>&

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

I mix my positive with my 3 negatives and for 5 years, none of them have 
turned.  I agree that if she turned them over, he/she would be euthanized just 
because of the FELV.  It is a shame that more vets are not up to date on info 
about this.


 "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
> not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals
> to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form
> stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
> positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She
> needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
> the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The
> positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
> other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
> him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me
> off list.
> 
> Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!
> 
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:
> 
> > I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
> > my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
> > would
> > come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > dlg...@windstream.net
> > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> > How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
> > point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
> > the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
> > When
> > I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
> > fear,
> > what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
> > up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
> > when
> > they get there.
> >
> >  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Margo
> > >
> > > I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to
> > pay
> > > for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> > > great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby
> > communities,
> > > I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so
> > that
> > > shouldn’t be a big issue.
> > >
> > > I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of
> > money
> > > in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> > > people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> > > little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> > > becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> > > and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
> > >
> > > Amani
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Margo
> > > Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> > >
> > >
> > > I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
> > >
> > > My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> > > $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented"
> > to
> > > them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> > > but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
> > >
> > > I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> > > Told you people aren't my forte...
> > >
> > > Margo
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Amani Oakley
> > > Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Katherine
> > >
> > > I have not heard from Sharon, but I have 

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

My thoughts exectly.  I would love to spend all my days caring for and playing 
with cats.

 Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote: 
> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets would
come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.  When
I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest fear,
what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when
they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> Hi Margo
>
> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay
> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities,
> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that
> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>
> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money
> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Margo
> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
>
> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to
> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
>
> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> Told you people aren't my forte...
>
> Margo
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> Hi Katherine
>
> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was
> a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting
> and a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to
> $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly
> fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already in
> a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
>
> This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her
> regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to
> get that mobile home for her.
>
> I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do
> that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let
> me know.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Katherine K.
> Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
> started -- without much luck it seems.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
> Katherine
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you privately message her
> and provide her with my email address? I don’t w

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Margo]

  You said there was donation site, can you link to it or tell me which one, and what it's under? Vet care I can do...Margo-Original Message-
From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 5, 2016 3:04 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me off list. Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far! On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets would
come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.  When
I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest fear,
what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when
they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> Hi Margo
>
> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay
> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities,
> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that
> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>
> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money
> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Margo
> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
>
> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to
> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
>
> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> Told you people aren't my forte...
>
> Margo
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> Hi Katherine
>
> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was
> a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting
> and a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to
> $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly
> fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already in
> a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
>
> This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her
> regarding whether she is in favour of this o

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

I will ask my friend down there, and also I have asked for help from another 
client whose case I just settled for her, and she has some contacts down in 
South Carolina. Surely, if we all pitch in, we can find a home for one cat!

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-05-16 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although not 
in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals to 
Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form stating 
they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV positive cat 
mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She needs to rehome 
some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of the housing 
assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The positive cat is 
probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the other 4 are still 
negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network him. He is 9 yrs old, 
tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me off list.

Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner 
<rdag...@novahrc.com<mailto:rdag...@novahrc.com>> wrote:
I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets would
come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.  When
I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest fear,
what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when
they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> 
wrote:
> Hi Margo
>
> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay
> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities,
> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that
> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>
> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money
> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
>  On Behalf Of
> Margo
> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
>
> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to
> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
>
> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> Told you people aren't my forte...
>
> Margo
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: 
> "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org><mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> Hi Katherine
>
> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was
> a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> obviously quite

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

I messaged with someone from the group who has talked to Sharon, although
not in the last couple of days. She does not want to surrender her animals
to Charleston Animal Society because they would require her to sign a form
stating they could be euthanized if sick. She most likely has the FeLV
positive cat mixed with the negatives. The positive cat needs vet care. She
needs to rehome some of her pets because there are pet limits for most of
the housing assistance places that were suggested by this other person. The
positive cat is probably the least likely to find a home  (Assuming the
other 4 are still negative) so maybe folks on this list can help network
him. He is 9 yrs old, tuxedo, named Thomas. If you'd like a photo, email me
off list.

Thank you Amani and Margo for your help so far!

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Rachel Dagner <rdag...@novahrc.com> wrote:

> I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
> my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets
> would
> come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
> point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
> the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.
> When
> I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest
> fear,
> what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
> up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care
> when
> they get there.
>
>  Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> > Hi Margo
> >
> > I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to
> pay
> > for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> > great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby
> communities,
> > I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so
> that
> > shouldn’t be a big issue.
> >
> > I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of
> money
> > in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> > people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> > little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> > becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> > and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Margo
> > Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> > I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
> >
> > My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> > $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented"
> to
> > them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> > but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
> >
> > I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> > Told you people aren't my forte...
> >
> > Margo
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Amani Oakley
> > Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> > Hi Katherine
> >
> > I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> > in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> > and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me
> was
> > a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> > obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting
> > and a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to
> > $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a
> monthly
> > fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already
> in
> > a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
> >
> > This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Rachel Dagner]

I just looked up Rustic Hollow, what a wonderful place! I wish I could quit
my job and go live there myself! Or if one of these darn lotto tickets would
come through I could start my own maybe Sandy Paws of Florida.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that
point.  I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past
the roof, hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.  When
I get bck on my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest fear,
what would happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set
up an account to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when
they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
> Hi Margo
>
> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay
> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am
> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities,
> I can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that
> shouldn’t be a big issue.
>
> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money
> in the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps
> people catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a
> little bit behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it
> becomes an insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals
> and her son, there was obviously some money for food, etc.
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Margo
> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
>
> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the
> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to
> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket,
> but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
>
> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation.
> Told you people aren't my forte...
>
> Margo
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
> Hi Katherine
>
> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client
> in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul)
> and come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was
> a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is
> obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting
> and a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to
> $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly
> fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already in
> a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
>
> This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her
> regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to
> get that mobile home for her.
>
> I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do
> that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let
> me know.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Katherine K.
> Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
> started -- without much luck it seems.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
> Katherine
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you privately message her
> and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> situation will be contacting me and I harbour e

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

How well I know.  Having to pay for a new roof hs put me close to that point.  
I am minding my finances and not buying anything until I get past the roof, 
hospital (fell and broke arm)copays.  It can happen so fast.  When I get bck on 
my feet, will try to help her.  This has been my greatest fear, what would 
happen to my 4 cats if something hqppened to me.  Trying to set up an account 
to transport them to Rustic Hollow and pay for their care when they get there.

 Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: 
> Hi Margo
> 
> I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay 
> for those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am 
> great at online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities, I 
> can easily pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that 
> shouldn’t be a big issue.
> 
> I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money in 
> the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps people 
> catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a little bit 
> behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it becomes an 
> insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals and her son, 
> there was obviously some money for food, etc.
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
> Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> 
> 
> I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).
> 
> My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the 
> $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to 
> them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but 
> even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.
> 
> I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation. 
> Told you people aren't my forte...
> 
> Margo
> -Original Message-
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> 
> 
> Hi Katherine
> 
> I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client in 
> South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul) and 
> come up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was a 2 
> bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is 
> obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting and 
> a new air conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to $12,000 
> U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly fee for 
> the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer 
> park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
> 
> This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her 
> regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to get 
> that mobile home for her.
> 
> I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do 
> that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let me 
> know.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Katherine K.
> Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> 
> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she 
> started -- without much luck it seems.
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
> <aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
> Katherine
> 
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
> comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
> track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her 
> with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every 
> single person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me 
> and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.
> 
> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
> collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals 
> and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
>  On Behalf Of Kat

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Marsha]

Will the trailer park allow the pets? How many?  I once adopted a kitten 
from a co-worker who wasn't allow to have even 1 kitten in her trailer.


Marsha

On 5/5/2016 10:32 AM, Amani Oakley wrote:


Hi Katherine

I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former 
client in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless 
her soul) and come up with a number of options. The best one she 
presented to me was a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for 
about $7,000 U.S. This is obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it 
probably needs new carpeting and a new air conditioning system, but 
probably for about $10,000 to $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a 
good option. There is also a monthly fee for the lot, which is usually 
around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer park and wouldn’t 
have to be moved.


This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her 
regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work 
to get that mobile home for her.


I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to 
do that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my 
concerns. Let me know.


Amani



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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

I don't know the answer to that question. I will have to ask my former client 
to maybe look into that. This is exactly why I am concerned about trying to do 
this long distance, and am still looking for people closer to the action so I 
don't do something stupid like that!

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: May-05-16 1:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Will the trailer park allow the pets?  How many?  I once adopted a kitten from 
a co-worker who wasn't allow to have even 1 kitten in her trailer.

Marsha

On 5/5/2016 10:32 AM, Amani Oakley wrote:
Hi Katherine

I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client in 
South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul) and come 
up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was a 2 bedroom 
used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is obviously quite 
inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting and a new air 
conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to $12,000 U.S., with 
furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly fee for the lot, which 
is usually around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer park and wouldn't 
have to be moved.

This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her 
regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to get 
that mobile home for her.

I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do that, 
I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let me know.

Amani

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Margo

I intend to raise enough money to give them a decent enough cushion to pay for 
those monthly amounts, for at least one year, and hopefully two. I am great at 
online auctions, so if they have those in the nearby communities, I can easily 
pick up good furniture/dishes, etc., for low numbers, so that shouldn’t be a 
big issue.

I figure that this woman was renting so there must be some source of money in 
the future. If she and her son have enough of a cushion, this helps people 
catch their breath and get back on their feet. It is easy to get a little bit 
behind every week on bills and expenses, until suddenly it becomes an 
insurmountable amount. If she was looking after these animals and her son, 
there was obviously some money for food, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: May-05-16 12:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ).

My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the $350 
a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to them, or 
lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but even tho I'm 
also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use.

I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation. Told 
you people aren't my forte...

Margo
-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley
Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


Hi Katherine

I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client in 
South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul) and come 
up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was a 2 bedroom 
used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is obviously quite 
inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting and a new air 
conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to $12,000 U.S., with 
furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly fee for the lot, which 
is usually around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer park and wouldn’t 
have to be moved.

This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her 
regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to get 
that mobile home for her.

I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do that, 
I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let me know.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she started 
-- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her with 
my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single 
person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I 
harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.

Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals and 
her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon 
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by 
joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you 
need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get mor

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Margo]

I will be happy to help (although humans aren't usually my thing ). My concern is how the family will cope in the future. Can they afford the $350 a month, plus utilities, food and pet food? Would this be "rented" to them, or lent, or rent with option? I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but even tho I'm also in SC, I'm to far to be of actual on-site use. I just want to try to make this a re-homing, not just a foster situation. Told you people aren't my forte...Margo-Original Message-
From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
Sent: May 5, 2016 11:32 AM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless





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Hi Katherine
 
I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client in South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul) and come up
 with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was a 2 bedroom used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is obviously quite inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting and a new air conditioning system, but probably
 for about $10,000 to $12,000 U.S., with furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly fee for the lot, which is usually around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer park and wouldn’t have to be moved.
 
This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to get that mobile
 home for her.
 
I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do that, I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let me know.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
 


I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she started -- without much luck it seems.



 

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:


Katherine
 
I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very comfortable with it –
 they keep way too much of your personal information and track everything about you. Can you
privately message her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.
 
Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can collaborate to perhaps find
 a used trailer she can live in with the animals and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM



To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless




 


Hi Amani,


 


Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by joining the "Owners of
 FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you need to join the group to see it.



 


Once you are a member this link will take you to it:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/. 



 


Katherine



 

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:


Katherine
 
I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. However, I would like
 to see if we might be able to do something more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


 
She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help with rehoming her animal(s).
The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?

On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:


Katherine
 
Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
 
Amani
 














 






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[Amani Oakley]

Hi Katherine

I have not heard from Sharon, but I have heard back from my former client in 
South Carolina, who has done a lot of research for me (bless her soul) and come 
up with a number of options. The best one she presented to me was a 2 bedroom 
used mobile home in Summerville for about $7,000 U.S. This is obviously quite 
inexpensive, and she says it probably needs new carpeting and a new air 
conditioning system, but probably for about $10,000 to $12,000 U.S., with 
furniture, it is a good option. There is also a monthly fee for the lot, which 
is usually around $350 a month but it is already in a trailer park and wouldn’t 
have to be moved.

This is a totally do-able target number for me. If I can hear from her 
regarding whether she is in favour of this option, I can get to work to get 
that mobile home for her.

I hate to rely upon you to be the go-between, and if you are unable to do that, 
I will have to venture onto Facebook, regardless of my concerns. Let me know.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she started 
-- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her with 
my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single 
person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I 
harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.

Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals and 
her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon 
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by 
joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you 
need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get more details?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. 
I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past 
for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help 
with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful 
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani


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[dlgegg]

Katherine,  nothing to do with Charleston, but all of your emails end op in my 
trash folder so I have to iick through TRASH to find your email and switch to 
inbox.  Do you know why


 "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I'm about 5 hours from Charleston. I've been there once. I have an
> acquaintance who just moved out of Charleston so I emailed her to ask about
> reliable rescue groups in the area.
> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Katherine
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you close enough to Charleston South Carolina to look into used mobile
> > homes, or know someone who can? If we have a target number to reach to
> > purchase one, that would be easier for me. I think I can hit some people I
> > know for some decent-sized donations, so if the purchase price is around
> > $20,000, I think that is do-able, though one problem is that our Canadian
> > dollar is so horribly devalued now, that anyone up here will have to donate
> > 30% more than it will register in the U.S. (I have just had a quick look on
> > line and I see a few in that price range. I just don’t know if what I see
> > on line is a true reflection of reality on the ground. I have a former,
> > very grateful client and her husband who moved down to South Carolina from
> > Canada, and I have sent her an email to see if she might help regarding
> > logistics as well.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> > Of *Katherine K.
> > *Sent:* May-03-16 1:18 PM
> >
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> >
> > I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
> > started -- without much luck it seems.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> >
> >
> > I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> > very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> > information and track everything about you. Can you *privately* message
> > her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> > since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> > situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it
> > is.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can
> > collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals
> > and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
> >
> >
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> > Of *Katherine K.
> > *Sent:* May-03-16 1:07 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Amani,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
> > Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
> > conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
> > private group, so you need to join the group to see it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.
> >
> >
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> > animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> > more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> > Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
> >
> >
> >
> > Amani
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> > Of *Katherine K.
> > *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> >
> >
> > She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Okay – very good.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I'm about 5 hours from Charleston. I've been there once. I have an acquaintance 
who just moved out of Charleston so I emailed her to ask about reliable rescue 
groups in the area.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Are you close enough to Charleston South Carolina to look into used mobile 
homes, or know someone who can? If we have a target number to reach to purchase 
one, that would be easier for me. I think I can hit some people I know for some 
decent-sized donations, so if the purchase price is around $20,000, I think 
that is do-able, though one problem is that our Canadian dollar is so horribly 
devalued now, that anyone up here will have to donate 30% more than it will 
register in the U.S. (I have just had a quick look on line and I see a few in 
that price range. I just don’t know if what I see on line is a true reflection 
of reality on the ground. I have a former, very grateful client and her husband 
who moved down to South Carolina from Canada, and I have sent her an email to 
see if she might help regarding logistics as well.)

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she started 
-- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her with 
my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single 
person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I 
harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.

Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals and 
her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon 
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by 
joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you 
need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get more details?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. 
I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past 
for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help 
with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful 
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


There is

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

I'm about 5 hours from Charleston. I've been there once. I have an
acquaintance who just moved out of Charleston so I emailed her to ask about
reliable rescue groups in the area.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> Are you close enough to Charleston South Carolina to look into used mobile
> homes, or know someone who can? If we have a target number to reach to
> purchase one, that would be easier for me. I think I can hit some people I
> know for some decent-sized donations, so if the purchase price is around
> $20,000, I think that is do-able, though one problem is that our Canadian
> dollar is so horribly devalued now, that anyone up here will have to donate
> 30% more than it will register in the U.S. (I have just had a quick look on
> line and I see a few in that price range. I just don’t know if what I see
> on line is a true reflection of reality on the ground. I have a former,
> very grateful client and her husband who moved down to South Carolina from
> Canada, and I have sent her an email to see if she might help regarding
> logistics as well.)
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:18 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
> started -- without much luck it seems.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you *privately* message
> her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it
> is.
>
>
>
> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can
> collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals
> and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:07 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> Hi Amani,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
> Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
> conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
> private group, so you need to join the group to see it.
>
>
>
> Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.
>
>
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Katherine

Are you close enough to Charleston South Carolina to look into used mobile 
homes, or know someone who can? If we have a target number to reach to purchase 
one, that would be easier for me. I think I can hit some people I know for some 
decent-sized donations, so if the purchase price is around $20,000, I think 
that is do-able, though one problem is that our Canadian dollar is so horribly 
devalued now, that anyone up here will have to donate 30% more than it will 
register in the U.S. (I have just had a quick look on line and I see a few in 
that price range. I just don’t know if what I see on line is a true reflection 
of reality on the ground. I have a former, very grateful client and her husband 
who moved down to South Carolina from Canada, and I have sent her an email to 
see if she might help regarding logistics as well.)

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she started 
-- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her with 
my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single 
person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I 
harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.

Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals and 
her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon 
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by 
joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you 
need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get more details?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. 
I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past 
for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help 
with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful 
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has 
been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has 
become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue 
that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

I hear you. I will private message her. I did find a GoFundMe page she
started -- without much luck it seems.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not
> very comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal
> information and track everything about you. Can you *privately* message
> her and provide her with my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly
> since obviously, every single person in the world with a difficult
> situation will be contacting me and I harbour enough guilt in my soul as it
> is.
>
>
>
> Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can
> collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals
> and her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 1:07 PM
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> Hi Amani,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
> Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
> conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
> private group, so you need to join the group to see it.
>
>
>
> Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.
>
>
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Katherine

I don’t go on Facebook very often. I will try to get to it but I am not very 
comfortable with it – they keep way too much of your personal information and 
track everything about you. Can you privately message her and provide her with 
my email address? I don’t want it posted publicly since obviously, every single 
person in the world with a difficult situation will be contacting me and I 
harbour enough guilt in my soul as it is.

Is there someone else in South Carolina, close to her, with whom I can 
collaborate to perhaps find a used trailer she can live in with the animals and 
her son? I would be willing to spearhead some fundraising.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 1:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon 
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full conversation by 
joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a private group, so you 
need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it: 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get more details?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. 
I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past 
for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help 
with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful 
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
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 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has 
been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has 
become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue 
that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

Hi Amani,

Thanks for your message. I don't have an email or phone number for Sharon
Follin Jowers, but if you are on Facebook, you can see the full
conversation by joining the "Owners of FeLV+/FIV+ cats" group. It's a
private group, so you need to join the group to see it.

Once you are a member this link will take you to it:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/permalink/10154196067502229/.

Katherine

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
wrote:

> Katherine
>
>
>
> I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the
> animals. However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something
> more permanent for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this.
> Can you put me in touch with her? Can you get more details?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-03-16 7:21 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
> too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
> the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
> for help with rehoming her animal(s).
>
> The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
> otherwise.
>
> Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
>
> On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
> Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Katherine K.
> *Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM
>
>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
>
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Katherine

I’m up in Canada so I can’t do much about finding a new home for the animals. 
However, I would like to see if we might be able to do something more permanent 
for a person with a good heart who keeps animals like this. Can you put me in 
touch with her? Can you get more details?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-03-16 7:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son too. 
I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in the past 
for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request for help 
with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful 
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has 
been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has 
become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue 
that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Margo]

Or find a place for both of them?
 
Do you know the whole story?
-Original Message- From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>Sent: May 3, 2016 2:57 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless 

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Katherine
 
Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?
 
Amani
 
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katherine K.Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
 
There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue that could help?
He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
Thanks,Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

She lives in a motel room with five cats, a dog and I think her adult son
too. I think efforts have been made to raise money for a rent deposit in
the past for her but I am unclear on the history. She just posted a request
for help with rehoming her animal(s).

The FeLV cat has some blood in his stool but sounds healthy and playful
otherwise.

Any Charleston resources or rescues that I could pass along?
On May 3, 2016 2:57 AM, "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote:

Katherine



Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?



Amani



*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of
*Katherine K.
*Sent:* May-01-16 8:03 PM

*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless



There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
rescue that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Amani Oakley]

Katherine

Is it too late to help the owner keep her house?

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: May-01-16 8:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless


There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has 
been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has 
become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue 
that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[dlgegg]

would be nice if owner and cat could be adopted together, seems they both need 
help.


 "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Sounds like it would be an adoption.
> On May 2, 2016 6:14 AM, "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Would this be temporary foster or adoption?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Katherine K."
> > Sent: May 1, 2016 8:02 PM
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
> >
> > There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> > has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> > has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> > rescue that could help?
> >
> > He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
> >
> > I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Katherine
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

Sounds like it would be an adoption.
On May 2, 2016 6:14 AM, "Margo" <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
> Would this be temporary foster or adoption?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Katherine K."
> Sent: May 1, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless
>
> There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
> has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
> has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
> rescue that could help?
>
> He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
>
> I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
>
> Thanks,
> Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Margo]

Would this be temporary foster or adoption?-Original Message-
From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 1, 2016 8:02 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston rescue that could help?
He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.
I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.
Thanks,
Katherine


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[Felvtalk] FeLV cat in Charleston - owner is homeless

[Katherine K.]

There is a 9 year old tuxedo cat in Charleston SC who is FeLV positive and
has been for several years. His owner is dealing with health issues and she
has become homeless. Does anyone have room for him or know of a Charleston
rescue that could help?

He was posted on the Facebook group for Owners of cats with FeLV/FIV.

I am in North Carolina and could help with transport.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

[Ardy Robertson]

Thanks Katherine  I will look into it.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Katherine K.
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

 

I think this has been mentioned before on the list, because I believe that is 
how I found out about it, but I'm a member of the "Owners of FeLV/FIV Cats" 
Facebook group and it's very active.

 

You have to have a Facebook account to join, and it's a closed group so you 
have to request to join the group. But I like the privacy of a closed group. My 
other Facebook friends can't see my cat conversations, and I know I'm with 
folks who understand what it's like to live with a FeLV kitty. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

 

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[Felvtalk] FeLV Facebook support group

[Katherine K.]

I think this has been mentioned before on the list, because I believe that
is how I found out about it, but I'm a member of the "Owners of FeLV/FIV
Cats" Facebook group and it's very active.

You have to have a Facebook account to join, and it's a closed group so you
have to request to join the group. But I like the privacy of a closed
group. My other Facebook friends can't see my cat conversations, and I know
I'm with folks who understand what it's like to live with a FeLV kitty.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive or negative

[Lorrie]

How right you are... It really is a crap shoot. I test all
newcomers to our sanctuary, but this does not mean the cat will be
Felv negative forever.  There is the re-emergence of the virus, the
test being done wrong, and the window area where a cat has  just
acquired the virus but it does not show up in the blood test yet.
-
Lorrie



> I have many cats. They live in groups, and occasionally one crosses
> from one group to another, or at least they did. All cats in my
> house have been FeLV tested at least twice (a minimum of 45 days
> apart), and all tested negative by Elisa. Two years ago in March,
> after blocking and subsequently going precipitously downhill, my
> Gribble tested positive for FeLV. After a major struggle, we got
> him back, at least for now. I now only test with routine bloodwork,
> or when someone is sick. One other cat has come up positive. He
> previously tested negative 3 times.
> 
> My point in all this is that I no longer believe negative means
> negative. I feel that the virus can become dormant in the bone
> marrow, and re-emerge to cause active infection. So I figure all I
> can do is now keep the groups separate, and vaccinate any incomers.
> Two cats have come in with special needs, and both live with the
> positives, because they also need monitoring. They are vaccinated.
> 
> It's a crap shoot :(
> 
> Margo
> 

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[Felvtalk] felv and chronic conjunctivitis

[dlgegg]

was looking for info on azo gantricin - is it safe for cats?  and found a site 
for Florida U that mentioned that chronic cases usually test positive for FELV 
AND FIV.  JUST SOME INFO THAT MIGHT COME IN HANDY SOME DAY.  VERY GOOD PHOTOS 
AND INFORMATION.  SITE IS -  
http://smallanimalvethospital.ufl.edu/files/2012/06/Lacrimal-and-conjunctivial-disease.pdf

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

[dlgegg]

You might want to try a tonic that I am using on the last of my lymphpoma.  I 
am also using the salve, but this is internal so you might want to just go with 
tonic.  You can get further information so you can make up your mind from:  

 2053-proven-alternati...@googlegroups.com   

 I started using this when I noticed a loss of circulation in my leg where drs. 
had done radiation.  I had undergone 4 chemos which the doctors told me did not 
good.  I then went into spontaneous remission.  Since using the salve on my 
leg, circulation is back.  It has been a long haul for me since I had radiation 
on that area, but it was worth it as I discovered a couple of new tumors trying 
to come up.  The salve has killed them and is now drawing the dead tissue out.  
The tonic does not taste good, but you can use a syringe and aim at one side 
and shoot it down.  I think it would be worth it to try.
Dorlis

 Elisabeth Eastley eeast...@gmail.com wrote: 
 We rescued a kitten on New Year's Eve. She was about 3 months old at the
 time, so she is now just over a year old. She tested FeLV positive and has
 been quite well until 2 months ago. She had terrible diarreah and was very
 lethargic.( In previous months she was so active and playful and naughty
 that her nickname was Troublemaker.
 The vet said that she had lymphoma in her intestines and the glands would
 eventually cut them off. She was given antibiotics and anti inflammatories
 and there was some improvement for a while. Then we had to take her back
 for more medication.
 
 She has deteriorated significantly in the last 2 weeks. Her hears are
 floppy, she's gradually stopped eating - we've been trying to tempt her
 with everything we can think of. She still purrs and paws, is able to climb
 the stairs and get on the bed, but has stopped playing. Her tummy is very
 plump - but we believe that this is the glands growing bigger.
 
 Her quality of life at this point is such that we don't believe it is time,
 but we want to get her eating. Is there anything we can offer her that has
 been found to be successful?
 
 Regards
 
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[Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

[Elisabeth Eastley]

We rescued a kitten on New Year's Eve. She was about 3 months old at the
time, so she is now just over a year old. She tested FeLV positive and has
been quite well until 2 months ago. She had terrible diarreah and was very
lethargic.( In previous months she was so active and playful and naughty
that her nickname was Troublemaker.
The vet said that she had lymphoma in her intestines and the glands would
eventually cut them off. She was given antibiotics and anti inflammatories
and there was some improvement for a while. Then we had to take her back
for more medication.

She has deteriorated significantly in the last 2 weeks. Her hears are
floppy, she's gradually stopped eating - we've been trying to tempt her
with everything we can think of. She still purrs and paws, is able to climb
the stairs and get on the bed, but has stopped playing. Her tummy is very
plump - but we believe that this is the glands growing bigger.

Her quality of life at this point is such that we don't believe it is time,
but we want to get her eating. Is there anything we can offer her that has
been found to be successful?

Regards

Elisabeth
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

[grace mifsud]

Hi Elisabeth

I would try Calo Pet It’s a paste. 

Or Hills Prescription diet  A/D

 

Regards

Grace

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Elisabeth Eastley
Sent: 18 October 2014 10:09
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

 

 

We rescued a kitten on New Year's Eve. She was about 3 months old at the time, 
so she is now just over a year old. She tested FeLV positive and has been quite 
well until 2 months ago. She had terrible diarreah and was very lethargic.( In 
previous months she was so active and playful and naughty that her nickname was 
Troublemaker. 

The vet said that she had lymphoma in her intestines and the glands would 
eventually cut them off. She was given antibiotics and anti inflammatories and 
there was some improvement for a while. Then we had to take her back for more 
medication.

 

She has deteriorated significantly in the last 2 weeks. Her hears are floppy, 
she's gradually stopped eating - we've been trying to tempt her with everything 
we can think of. She still purrs and paws, is able to climb the stairs and get 
on the bed, but has stopped playing. Her tummy is very plump - but we believe 
that this is the glands growing bigger.

 

Her quality of life at this point is such that we don't believe it is time, but 
we want to get her eating. Is there anything we can offer her that has been 
found to be successful?

 

Regards

 

Elisabeth

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV not eating

[Katherine K.]

Hi Elisabeth,
I'm so sorry to hear your baby is not feeling well. In general, I have
syringe-fed both Hills AD and blended chicken livers to sick cats who stop
eating. If you need assistance syringe-feeding, search YouTube for a
tutorial or there is a feline assisted feeding group on Yahoo.

My last FeLV kitten, Peanut, died from enlarged lymphoma glands around his
lungs and stomach, seen via x-ray. For the next week or so he would not eat
much and whatever he ate came right back up a few minutes later. I tried
many foods - the liquidy consistency of blended livers was all he could
keep down but he would not eat enough of it to give him much energy. He
still was friendly and sweet but his energy level went way down. His
breathing became labored and shallow for the last couple of days. We waited
too long, in my opinion, and I am afraid he suffered on his last day. We
got home from work and he was just languishing. A couple of hours later, he
was gasping for breath and retching repeatedly, likely trying to clear the
swollen nodes (tumors) from his air passage and get enough air. We had to
take him to the emergency vet that night to be euthanized.

He had always been very energetic up until the last two weeks. He was 1
year old.

There is an herbal tonic that is supposed to help decrease the tumors,
DLGEGG on this list will have more info if you want it. I did not get a
chance to try it.

Enjoy the time you spend with her. Thank you for giving her a life full of
love 3

Katherine
On Oct 18, 2014 4:09 AM, Elisabeth Eastley eeast...@gmail.com wrote:


 We rescued a kitten on New Year's Eve. She was about 3 months old at the
 time, so she is now just over a year old. She tested FeLV positive and has
 been quite well until 2 months ago. She had terrible diarreah and was very
 lethargic.( In previous months she was so active and playful and naughty
 that her nickname was Troublemaker.
 The vet said that she had lymphoma in her intestines and the glands would
 eventually cut them off. She was given antibiotics and anti inflammatories
 and there was some improvement for a while. Then we had to take her back
 for more medication.

 She has deteriorated significantly in the last 2 weeks. Her hears are
 floppy, she's gradually stopped eating - we've been trying to tempt her
 with everything we can think of. She still purrs and paws, is able to climb
 the stairs and get on the bed, but has stopped playing. Her tummy is very
 plump - but we believe that this is the glands growing bigger.

 Her quality of life at this point is such that we don't believe it is
 time, but we want to get her eating. Is there anything we can offer her
 that has been found to be successful?

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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[dlgegg]

THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES NOT 
GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.
 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Maya,
 
 I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
 positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
 But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
 decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
 vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.
 
 However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
 alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
 you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
 they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
 have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
 rehoming their pets.
 
 I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
 But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
 certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
 it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
 Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! 3
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
  command to our cat Yang who passed away.
 
  I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
  they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
  sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
  cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
  etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
 
  I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
  passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
  contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
  the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
  it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
  negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
  another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
  Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
  or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
   ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.
 
  What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
 
  --
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[Maya D'Alessio]

Thanks everyone,

Susan, good points on contacting local rescues.  My partner doesn't seem to
want to take another positive cat in (too much heartbreak maybe?), which I
do understand.

Your little one might test negative in six months, so don't lose hope!


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Susan Grimes sweet2bcota...@att.net
wrote:

 Hi Maya,
 My Sophia was just diagnosed with FeLV last week.  I have 7 other cats who
 have been living with Sophia since I saved her hours from being eu'd.  She
 was 8 weeks old when I got her and now she is 16+ weeks old.  My cats age
 from one to nine years old.  My one year old Jacob has loved, played, and
 groomed Sophia from her mouth to the other end.  Everyone is fixed and has
 had their vaccinations.  My cats are 100% indoors and everyone gets along
 good.  I plan to have Jacob tested since he has so much close contact and
 hopefully he will be FeLV- then everyone will get a booster just for good
 measure.  I am praying everyone's vaccines and immune systems are working
 good, but no one will be isolated I will watch the older ones and treat
 symptomatically then test as needed.

 I too have been in rescue for 3 yrs and you can check with local groups
 and if you let them know you are looking for a + cat they will keep watch.
 They usually have daily contact with local shelters in large cities and
 will know if a + cat comes in.  You can also look on Petfinders.com and can
 find local rescue groups too.

 Best of luck,
 Susan  Sophia


   On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.

 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
 they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
 sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
 cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
 etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
 contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
 the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
 it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
 negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
 another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
 Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
 or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

 --
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[dlgegg]

I have mixed FELV positive cats with negatives for at least 8 years and no 
problems.  My vet said that as long as the negatives were vaccinated, all would 
be okay.  In the last 2 years, no one has received any vaccinations and no 
problems.  Could be that as Lance said, the adults have developed an immunity.  
All 4 of my cats are healthy.  I lost 3 last year due to old age (17 years), 
not felv..

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 There are many anecdotes on the FeLV lists of negatives accidentally mixing 
 with positives and never getting sick or testing positive. I saw this happen 
 with several of our own cats. There are posts from guardians who mixed 
 healthy, vaccinated negatives with positives, and the negatives stayed 
 negative.
 
 We know that adult cats have a certain natural resistance to the virus and 
 are less likely to be persistently infected. We do not know how strong this 
 resistance is, and for all we know, it might vary from cat to cat.
 
 Vaccination works well. It does not prevent 100% of infections. I’ve seen 
 80-85% as a figure, but I’m not sure that AAFP or any other official 
 organization has given a number. 
 
 I would be comfortable mixing if the negative was a healthy adult and once 
 the negative was vaccinated. I believe the vaccine takes a little time to 
 kick in, too, and it might require a booster if the cat has not been 
 previously vaccinated. Your vet will know. I would also consider using a 
 PureVax vaccine, as it is (in theory) less likely to cause a fibrosarcoma to 
 form at the vaccination site. Your vet will be able to tell you far more 
 about that than I could. 
 
 Best wishes for you and Merlot,
 
 Lance
 
 On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in 
  command to our cat Yang who passed away.
  
  I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they 
  are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  
  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in 
  to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  
  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
  
  I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
  passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased 
  contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running 
  the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from 
  it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test 
  negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing 
  another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for 
  Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months 
  or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.  
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.
  
  What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
  
  -- 
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  PhD student
  B1 377B, x32320
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  Biology GSA Vice Chair
  GSA Director At-Large
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[Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[Maya D'Alessio]

So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
command to our cat Yang who passed away.

I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they
are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).
 She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in
to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.
 This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
 ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

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PhD student
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[Katherine K.]

Hi Maya,

I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.

However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
rehoming their pets.

I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! 3

Katherine


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.

 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
 they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
 sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
 cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
 etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.

 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
 contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
 the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
 it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
 negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
 another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
 Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
 or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.

 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?

 --
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 PhD student
 B1 377B, x32320
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[Lance]

There are many anecdotes on the FeLV lists of negatives accidentally mixing 
with positives and never getting sick or testing positive. I saw this happen 
with several of our own cats. There are posts from guardians who mixed healthy, 
vaccinated negatives with positives, and the negatives stayed negative.

We know that adult cats have a certain natural resistance to the virus and are 
less likely to be persistently infected. We do not know how strong this 
resistance is, and for all we know, it might vary from cat to cat.

Vaccination works well. It does not prevent 100% of infections. I’ve seen 
80-85% as a figure, but I’m not sure that AAFP or any other official 
organization has given a number. 

I would be comfortable mixing if the negative was a healthy adult and once the 
negative was vaccinated. I believe the vaccine takes a little time to kick in, 
too, and it might require a booster if the cat has not been previously 
vaccinated. Your vet will know. I would also consider using a PureVax vaccine, 
as it is (in theory) less likely to cause a fibrosarcoma to form at the 
vaccination site. Your vet will be able to tell you far more about that than I 
could. 

Best wishes for you and Merlot,

Lance

On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in 
 command to our cat Yang who passed away.
 
 I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they 
 are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  
 She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in to 
 the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  This 
 contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
 
 I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
 passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased contact, 
 but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running the place 
 she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from it, and she 
 had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test negative for FELV 
 recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing another cat to the 
 virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for Merlot who is lonely.  I 
 was thining maybe I would consider (in six months or so), trying to take in a 
 cat who was not going to find another home.  ie. an older cat, or a cat from 
 a society that they were about to put down.
 
 What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
 
 -- 
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 PhD student
 B1 377B, x32320
 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

[Susan Grimes]

Hi Maya,
My Sophia was just diagnosed with FeLV last week.  I have 7 other cats who have 
been living with Sophia since I saved her hours from being eu'd.  She was 8 
weeks old when I got her and now she is 16+ weeks old.  My cats age from one to 
nine years old.  My one year old Jacob has loved, played, and groomed Sophia 
from her mouth to the other end.  Everyone is fixed and has had their 
vaccinations.  My cats are 100% indoors and everyone gets along good.  I plan 
to have Jacob tested since he has so much close contact and hopefully he will 
be FeLV- then everyone will get a booster just for good measure.  I am praying 
everyone's vaccines and immune systems are working good, but no one will be 
isolated I will watch the older ones and treat symptomatically then test as 
needed.

I too have been in rescue for 3 yrs and you can check with local groups and if 
you let them know you are looking for a + cat they will keep watch.  They 
usually have daily contact with local shelters in large cities and will know if 
a + cat comes in.  You can also look on Petfinders.com and can find local 
rescue groups too.

Best of luck,
Susan  Sophia 


On Monday, August 11, 2014 4:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote:
  


So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in command 
to our cat Yang who passed away.

I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until they are 
adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really sick).  She 
thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another cat in to the 
house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised, etc.  This contrasts 
with what my vet says - no other cat contact. 

I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is 
passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased contact, 
but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running the place 
she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from it, and she 
had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test negative for FELV 
recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing another cat to the 
virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for Merlot who is lonely.  I 
was thining maybe I would consider (in six months or so), trying to take in a 
cat who was not going to find another home.  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a 
society that they were about to put down.


What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
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GSA Director At-Large
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[Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??

[Michelle B]

Hi guys,

I am pretty familiar with FeLV but heard something that is alarming and am 
hoping there is someone that can give feedback on this. 

Our rescue took in a nursing mother cat and her two kittens and a 5 month old 
kitten, unrelated, at the same time. These cats were in the same quarantine 
room but in separate holding pens (having no direct contact with each other). 
The 5 month kitten tested strong positive for FeLV and does have very large 
nodes. She also had a bad case of fleas. 

I read that FeLV can be transmitted through fleas - has anyone done research, 
or spoken with a well qualified veterinarian about this?

The mother cat and her kittens have not shown any evidence of fleas or fleas 
dirt but I am still concerned about this potential for transmission, especially 
since they are newborns.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??

[Lee Evans]

Haemobartonella fellis is transmitted by fleas, not FeLv. You can Google 
Haemobartonella and find out about it. That's why it's recommended that you 
treat all current cats for fleas with Frontline Plus or other flea product if 
you intend to bring a new cat/kitten into the house. The fleas actually carry 
the haemobart parasitic bacteria and when biting a cat, inject it. FeLv is a 
retrovirus mostly contagious through strong contact cat to cat. Even then, one 
cat may have a strong enough immune system not to get the disease.





On Monday, November 4, 2013 1:52 PM, Michelle B teals...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
Hi guys,

I am pretty familiar with FeLV but heard something that is alarming and am 
hoping there is someone that can give feedback on this. 

Our rescue took in a nursing mother cat and her two kittens and a 5 month old 
kitten, unrelated, at the same time. These cats were in the same quarantine 
room but in separate holding pens (having no direct contact with each other). 
The 5 month kitten tested strong positive for FeLV and does have very large 
nodes. She also had a bad case of fleas. 

I read that FeLV can be transmitted through fleas - has anyone done research, 
or spoken with a well qualified veterinarian about this?

The mother cat and her kittens have not shown any evidence of fleas or fleas 
dirt but I am still concerned about this potential for transmission, 
especially since they are newborns.



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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??

[Michelle B]

Thank you Lee, I really appreciate that!  =)

We do treat all cats for fleas as soon as they come in but did not treat the 
nursing mother and newborns for obvious reasons and have instead been doing the 
flea comb. This possible flea transmission was new to me so I was very alarmed. 
We always quarantine 'new' cats and test and then re-test after two months to 
make sure they are negative before we allow them to go into the general 
population.  Flea transmission would have changed everything though.

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:02:35 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??

Haemobartonella fellis is transmitted by fleas, not FeLv. You can Google 
Haemobartonella and find out about it. That's why it's recommended that you 
treat all current cats for fleas with Frontline Plus or other flea product if 
you intend to bring a new cat/kitten into the house. The fleas actually carry 
the haemobart parasitic bacteria and when biting a cat, inject it. FeLv is a 
retrovirus mostly contagious through strong contact cat to cat. Even then, one 
cat may have a strong enough immune system not to get the disease.   On 
Monday, November 4, 2013 1:52 PM, Michelle B teals...@hotmail.com wrote: 


Hi guys,I am pretty familiar with FeLV but heard something that is alarming and 
am hoping there is someone that can give feedback on this. Our rescue took in a 
nursing mother cat and her two kittens and a 5 month old kitten, unrelated, at 
the same time. These cats were in the same quarantine room but in separate 
holding pens (having no direct contact with each other). The 5 month kitten 
tested strong positive for FeLV and does have very large nodes. She also had a 
bad case of fleas. I read that FeLV can be transmitted through fleas - has 
anyone done research, or spoken with a well qualified veterinarian about 
this?The mother cat and her kittens have not shown any evidence of fleas or 
fleas dirt but I am still concerned about this potential for transmission, 
especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??

[Beth]

Here are a couple links to suggest FeLV can be passed by fleas:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheNcpsidt=15342194 
http://www.chatvet.com/flv.htm

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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV and Fleas??
 


Haemobartonella fellis is transmitted by fleas, not FeLv. You can Google 
Haemobartonella and find out about it. That's why it's recommended that you 
treat all current cats for fleas with Frontline Plus or other flea product if 
you intend to bring a new cat/kitten into the house. The fleas actually carry 
the haemobart parasitic bacteria and when biting a cat, inject it. FeLv is a 
retrovirus mostly contagious through strong contact cat to cat. Even then, one 
cat may have a strong enough immune system not to get the disease.





On Monday, November 4, 2013 1:52 PM, Michelle B teals...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
Hi guys,

I am pretty familiar with FeLV but heard something that is alarming and am 
hoping there is someone that can give feedback on this. 

Our rescue took in a nursing mother cat and her two kittens and a 5 month old 
kitten, unrelated, at the same time. These cats were in the same quarantine 
room but in separate holding pens (having no direct contact with each other). 
The 5 month kitten tested strong positive for FeLV and does have very large 
nodes. She also had a bad case of fleas. 

I read that FeLV can be transmitted through fleas - has anyone done research, 
or spoken with a well qualified veterinarian about this?

The mother cat and her kittens have not shown any evidence of fleas or fleas 
dirt but I am still concerned about this potential for transmission, especially
 since they are newborns.



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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Positive cat

[Lorrie]

THANKS FOR THIS POST, LEE Too many people panic and kill cats who
test positive for FelV.  Some even kill FIV cats and there is no reason
for this, as I believe FIV is only transmitted by deep bite wounds.

Lorrie


On 09-01, Lee Evans wrote:
First of all, the vets blow way out of proportion the contagious factor
in FeLv. Yes, a cat can be latent, as were my Tiger Boy and Twerp. Both
latent, both tested negative all their long lives, then towards the
end, they got a URI plus kidney failure and both passed within days of
each other at ages 13 and 14. They lived with 8 other cats. I tested
periodically but none of their mates ever turned positive and all the
cats in that group regularly slept together, groomed each other, ate
from the same dishes and shared litter boxes. You can't make any hard,
fast rules with FeLv. Your cat has been living with the other cats so
it's up to you whether she should continues to do that. However, please
don't have her killed just because she tested positive. As for a cat
going outside and bringing in FeLv, I really don't think so. They have
to have some type of long term exposure or critical exposure - like
meeting a cat who is already ill from the disease and grooming him.
It's not airborne.

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[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)

[Margo]

This is a repost, maybe it will help?

From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 24, 2013 2:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: toomanykitti...@earthlink.net toomanykitti...@earthlink.net
Subject: FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)



Sharyl wrote;
The protocol I was given is 
1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days
Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives
Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot
?
I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine
Sharyl

Hi Sharyl, 

   There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly 
 used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include;

Fel-O-Vax LV-K
 By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia 
 vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age 
 and older. 

Leukocell 2
 by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. 
 For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for 
 initial immunity).

Nobivac® FeLV
 For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease 
 associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® 
 FeLv 

I'm sure there are others, as well.

Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) 
 injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less 
 likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most 
 concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this 
 vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it.
Here's an explanation; 
https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency

HTH,

Margo


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[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)

[Margo]

Sharyl wrote;
The protocol I was given is 
1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days
Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives
Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot
?
I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine
Sharyl

Hi Sharyl, 

   There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly 
used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include;

Fel-O-Vax LV-K
 By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia 
vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age 
and older. 

Leukocell 2
 by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. 
For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for initial 
immunity).

Nobivac® FeLV
 For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease 
associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® 
FeLv 

I'm sure there are others, as well.

Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) 
injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less 
likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most 
concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this 
vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it.
Here's an explanation; 
https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency

HTH,

Margo

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[Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats

[michael devitt]

hi i am new to felvtalk i was wondering if anybody has experience with felv+ 
cats living with other cats i been feeding a stray for about a year i finally 
got him to the vet to get neutered and he tested positive i am getting my other 
cats tested and vaccinated they tested negative the stray is indoors now he 
likes it indoors i dont feed from same bowl they use different litter boxes 
they get along do not really socialize with him  he is a good cat really cant 
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Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats

[Beth]

Hi Mike -

Thanks for taking this guy in. Mixing cats is a pretty frequent question. You 
may want to search the archives for mixing.
1st I would recommend having your FeLV cat retested in 6 months. Sometimes 
there are false positives,  sometimes(though rarely) they can throw the virus 
off. You could also get the cat tested on an IFA, which is a blood test which 
is sent out to a lab. If determines if the virus is circulating in the bone 
marrow. If the IFA is positive, there is no need to retest. Cats with a 
positive IFA will not throw the virus off. Your vet should be able to explain 
the protocol to you.

I mix my FeLV  non-FeLV cats freely. They all eat  drink from the same bowls. 
 I have been doing this for over 10 years,  none of my non-FeLV cats have ever 
turned positive. I have even had FIV+ cats living with the FeLV+ cats,  they 
have never caught the virus (I do re-test my non FeLV's, so I know this to be 
true)
You do need to keep him separate from your other cats until your cats are fully 
vaccinated ( 1st vaccine, booster vaccine,  wait at least 10 days after last 
vaccine) before mixing.
2 of my previous vets recommended vaccinating my non-FeLV cats every 6 months, 
instead of every year. Currently I just vaccinate yearly.
Right now I have 5 FeLV+ cats, 1 FIV+ cat,  one who is just a normal, healthy, 
13 year old who is not positive for anything.

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 From: michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
 

hi i am new to felvtalk i was wondering if anybody has experience with felv+ 
cats living with other cats i been feeding a stray for about a year i finally 
got him to the vet to get neutered and he tested positive i am getting my other 
cats tested and vaccinated they tested negative the stray is indoors now he 
likes it indoors i dont feed from same bowl they use different litter boxes 
they get along do not really socialize with him  he is a good cat really cant 
be separated from the others thanks for imput mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats

[michael devitt]

thanks for the info beth i am in the process of getting my cats vaccinated they 
are 3,5,6yrs old i have read that the older ones might have built up immunity 
from the viruses thanks for responding 



 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
 

Hi Mike -

Thanks for taking this guy in. Mixing cats is a pretty frequent question. You 
may want to search the archives for mixing.
1st I would recommend having your FeLV cat retested in 6 months. Sometimes 
there are false positives,  sometimes(though rarely) they can throw the virus 
off. You could also get the cat tested on an IFA, which is a blood test which 
is sent out to a lab. If determines if the virus is circulating in the bone 
marrow. If the IFA is positive, there is no need to retest. Cats with a 
positive IFA will not throw the virus off. Your vet should be able to explain 
the protocol to you.

I mix my FeLV  non-FeLV cats freely. They all eat  drink from the same bowls. 
 I have been doing this for over 10 years,  none of my non-FeLV cats have ever 
turned positive. I have even
 had FIV+ cats living with the FeLV+ cats,  they have never caught the virus 
(I do re-test my non FeLV's, so I know this to be true)
You do need to keep him separate from your other cats until your cats are fully 
vaccinated ( 1st vaccine, booster vaccine,  wait at least 10 days after last 
vaccine) before mixing.
2 of my previous vets recommended vaccinating my non-FeLV cats every 6 months, 
instead of every year. Currently I just vaccinate yearly.
Right now I have 5 FeLV+ cats, 1 FIV+ cat,  one who is just a normal, healthy, 
13 year old who is not positive for anything.

Beth


 
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 From: michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
 

hi i am new to felvtalk i was wondering if anybody has experience with felv+ 
cats living with other cats i been feeding a stray for about a year i finally 
got him to the vet to get neutered and he tested positive i am getting my other 
cats tested and vaccinated they tested negative the stray is indoors now he 
likes it indoors i dont feed from same bowl they use different litter boxes 
they get along do not really socialize with him  he is a good cat really cant 
be separated from the others thanks for imput mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats

[Maryam Ulomi]

Hi Mike, 

We rescued feral kitten in August and we have two other cats who are older. We 
keep our two older neg FeLV cats separated from Kitty, our FeLV positive cat. 
There is a lot of different opinions regarding mixing and not mixing. However 
based on the age of our other two cats we decided not to mix them. 
I would reiterate what others have said and recommend reading posts about 
mixing and talking to your vet as well.
Good luck Mike and bless you for saving this cat 

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 5, 2013, at 14:59, michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com wrote:

 thanks for the info beth i am in the process of getting my cats vaccinated 
 they are 3,5,6yrs old i have read that the older ones might have built up 
 immunity from the viruses thanks for responding 
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
 
 Hi Mike -
 
 Thanks for taking this guy in. Mixing cats is a pretty frequent question. You 
 may want to search the archives for mixing.
 1st I would recommend having your FeLV cat retested in 6 months. Sometimes 
 there are false positives,  sometimes(though rarely) they can throw the 
 virus off. You could also get the cat tested on an IFA, which is a blood test 
 which is sent out to a lab. If determines if the virus is circulating in the 
 bone marrow. If the IFA is positive, there is no need to retest. Cats with a 
 positive IFA will not throw the virus off. Your vet should be able to explain 
 the protocol to you.
 
 I mix my FeLV  non-FeLV cats freely. They all eat  drink from the same 
 bowls.  I have been doing this for over 10 years,  none of my non-FeLV cats 
 have ever turned positive. I have even had FIV+ cats living with the FeLV+ 
 cats,  they have never caught the virus (I do re-test my non FeLV's, so I 
 know this to be true)
 You do need to keep him separate from your other cats until your cats are 
 fully vaccinated ( 1st vaccine, booster vaccine,  wait at least 10 days 
 after last vaccine) before mixing.
 2 of my previous vets recommended vaccinating my non-FeLV cats every 6 
 months, instead of every year. Currently I just vaccinate yearly.
 Right now I have 5 FeLV+ cats, 1 FIV+ cat,  one who is just a normal, 
 healthy, 13 year old who is not positive for anything.
 
 Beth
 
  
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 From: michael devitt villagem48...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:17 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] felv+ cat living with 3 negative cats
 
 hi i am new to felvtalk i was wondering if anybody has experience with felv+ 
 cats living with other cats i been feeding a stray for about a year i finally 
 got him to the vet to get neutered and he tested positive i am getting my 
 other cats tested and vaccinated they tested negative the stray is indoors 
 now he likes it indoors i dont feed from same bowl they use different litter 
 boxes they get along do not really socialize with him  he is a good cat 
 really cant be separated from the others thanks for imput mike
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Positive mother

[Lorrie]

On 12-27, Sharyl wrote:
Dave, I have to agree with you.  I have fostered many FeLV kittens who
were positive from birth.  Most died before they were 2 yrs old.  Only
one survived until 4 yo.  In my experience kittens born to a positive
mom test positive from the get go.

I have a litter of rescued kittens who are now 7 months old. 
Their mother was feral and FelV pos.  All 4 kittens tested pos.
at 3 months old. One died a week ago, but the others seem fine.
I had one neutered and re-tested and he was such a light pos.
on the Elisa the tech could barely consider it pos. I am hoping
he and the other two kittens will turn negative next time I test
them.

Lorrie

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[Felvtalk] FeLV chart from Sharyl - in case you missed it!

[Natalie]

Janine, in case you missed it on October 4th.

This is a very helpful chart from Sharyl - explains the 30 day - 90 day
testing recommendations and exposure to FeLV!  

Natalie

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:01 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough

 

Janine, 1st thank you for helping all these cats and kittens in such a
responsible manner.  Here is the link to a chart I have found very helpful
in explaining testing for FeLV

http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html

 

As I understand it the IFA test requires the virus to be in the kittens bone
marrow which takes time.  

 

Sometimes positive test are incorrect perhaps due to the handling of the
test.  Timing is very important.  If left too long before reading they will
give a positive result for a negative cat.

 

Hope Bella tests negative next time

 

Sharyl

 

From: janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough


Hello,

I joined this list years ago, and have now needed to rejoin.  Trying to find

testing protocol for FeLV and an explanation for it. 

I am with a rescue grp and we have just started trapping in a colony that
had 30 
kittens last year and none of them tested pos.  We just took 9 kittens
within a 
few days, and are close to having all of the adults neutered.  There were a
few 
newcomers - mostly toms. 

All kittens tested neg until Bella, who tested a weak pos with Elysa sent
out to 
lab.  Moms were all mixed up in this colony, everyone taking care of each 
other's kittens.  

A 2nd vet did IFA test a few days after Bella's pos results, which I
understand 
is too soon, but having a hard time trying to explain this!  

My concern is that even if all the kittens tested neg except Bella, that
doesn't 
mean in a few weeks the same kittens would not retest pos.  My thinking is
that 
more than one may have been exposed recently enough that the test might not
be 
positive last wk, but may be tomorrow? 

Another vet thinks I am over thinking/reacting and we should just adopt out
the 
ones that have tested neg right around the same time Bella tested positive. 

Looking for guidance - 

Thank you, 
Janine




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Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive kitties

[Beth]

It has sadly gotten to the point where I delete 90% of the emails I get from 
this list without even reading them.

 
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 From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive kitties
 

 
You are correct, let’s get back on to the subject and help people that need 
to hear our experiences with this horrible disease. We need to get back on 
track 
and help people help their fur babies that they love so much. We know that it’s 
hard to find a vet that has the knowledge and is willing to help their patients 
without the first thought of putting them to sleep.  We need to keep 
getting the word out that there is hope for them. They can live long, happy, 
healthy lives. Please continue to share your stories and experiences of what 
meds have worked and what has not.  We are here for those precious cats 
that love us unconditionally.  They are better than humans.
 
Now back to the subject that matters mosthelping others. 
From: Elizabeth Malone 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
  This list has always been so very helpful—now it is full of 
judgmental people that do nothing but bash those with different views. What is 
happening to this list? If people hunt they are evil. Like it or not many 
people 
all over the world hunt—they are all condemned because there are those that 
hate 
it. Then the list is now into politics. What happened to helping deliver 
information about feline leukemia? People that look in to get help see this and 
leave. It is heartbreaking that this is deteriorating away from what brought 
all 
to the list in the first place.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary incontinence

[dot winkler]

Any info on urinary incontinence in the FELV pos cat?  My cat Chloe is running 
a low grade temp since night before last.  Doc gave pill form of anti b (said 
doesn't have it in the liquid).  I gave one last night along with a bite to my 
finger!  I noticed  a trail of urine on the floor on her way to the litter box 
this morning.  I guess she missed it.  Hope we are not running into further 
complications.  



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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends
 

If I may offer some advice, don’t sedate!  My vet hates it because you never 
know how any cat may react…cats get more frightened by sedation, what’s 
happening to them, than a trip.  As long as their cage/carrier is covered, to 
make them feel safe, there’s not much of  problem.  I have been transporting 
cats by car and even on the plane in the cabin often, and never used sedation.  
Some cats were not exactly “tame”.
Natalie
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jamielynn Storch
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends
 
Just an update.  The rescue was unable to offer any assistance with the 
transport in the time frame needed so they are holding off on getting 2 of the 
cats there.  Instead I will be transporting an FIV+ stressed out kitty on my 
trek.  Wish me luck that his sedatives work!  

 
Thanks so much for the offer to help.
-- 
Jamielynn  Storch
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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary incontinence

[Terri Brown]

Chiming in on this one -- I'd have her tested for urinary crystals, just to be 
sure there's no FLUTD.  If there are no crystals and there is no medical reason 
for the leaking urine, it could be behavioral.

How old is the cat?

Terri B

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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary incontinence


  Any info on urinary incontinence in the FELV pos cat?  My cat Chloe is 
running a low grade temp since night before last.  Doc gave pill form of anti b 
(said doesn't have it in the liquid).  I gave one last night along with a bite 
to my finger!  I noticed  a trail of urine on the floor on her way to the 
litter box this morning.  I guess she missed it.  Hope we are not running into 
further complications.  


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Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary incontinence

[Beth]

Yes, I had a cat once who was doing this. She had a blockage  had to have 
surgery. It's a serious thing.

Beth

 
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 From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary incontinence
 

  
Chiming in on this one -- I'd have her tested for urinary crystals, just to 
be sure there's no FLUTD.  If there are no crystals and there is no medical 
reason for the leaking urine, it could be behavioral.
 
How old is the cat?
 
Terri B
 
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From: dot  winkler 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:21  AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV urinary  incontinence


Any info on urinary incontinence in the FELV pos cat?  My cat  Chloe is 
running a low grade temp since night before last.  Doc gave pill  form of anti 
b (said doesn't have it in the liquid).  I gave one last  night along with a 
bite to my finger!  I noticed  a trail of urine  on the floor on her way to 
the litter box this morning.  I guess she  missed it.  Hope we are not running 
into further complications.   


 
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