Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
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Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Yeah the only thing you couldn't do was to own stations or anything like that. But its safe to say that elite and its sequals are the foundation set but a lot of gamers will say that there still isn't much that came close to it. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 01:23, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Well, there were actually several different versions of Elite, but all have the same basic story or goals so I'll give you a generic description of the game. As I recall basically you are something of a priviteer picking up contracts as you go, and get rewarded for carrying out certain missions. In one mission you might dock at a space station, and you are warned that the sun is about to go nova. You can dump your cargo, and try to rescue as many people from the station as possible. If you do you get bonus credits you can put towards ship upgrades or buying another ship altogether. In another mission the galactic military is being attacked by a stealth ship, a cloaked enemy ship, and the galactic military will higher you to hunt down and destroy the cloaked ship. In another mission the Thargoids--the main bad guys in the game--swarm and takeover a space station. If you attack and destroy the station you will be given a reward for stopping the Thargoids invasion. There are various missions like that in the game. Some are rescue missions like the first one i described and others are strictly military in nature like the second and third examples I gave here. Not only that but you can mine moons, asteroids, and planets for minerals like silver, gold, and platnum you can sell for ship upgrades or a bigger and better ship. So its got a mining and trading feel to it as well. Which brings me to one of the best features which is the game has several classes of ships you can buy and use to carry out missions. If you didn't have the credits for a newer and better ship you could perform minor upgrades like swap out that wimpy pulse laser for an ion cannon, buy more powerful shields, and a docking computer to automate docking with other ships and stations.Basically, think priviteer in space and you'll get the jist. Cheers! On 11/20/11, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: I've never played Elite, could you give me a description of the goals, scope and type of play it had? I get that it has jillions of worlds, which is very cool, but I want to know some specifics of the objectives and play of the game, if it's a popular model, to see if it fits what I want to make. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Swamp and finding the safe zone in new version
Greetings! Loving the new features. One question however, the safe zone is no longer one of the options when activating your radar any more, so just wondering how to find the safe zone? Sorry if this is a dumb question, just a bit lost. Thanks and keep up the Excellent work! Sly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land
I havn't played swamp for a bit but thats mainly because there is now little challenge after I mastered multiplayerthough I think this is on the todo list. Right now for example we get to much ammo, etc. Its almost garenteed that we will get more than enough of anything, and everything. In a short time but then this is still a concept in progress and honestly playing this online thing is real good. I previously didn't bother with online play because of really bad things going on, from the fact you had to know everyone's ip on some games to bad things happening with my connection. It maybe have been that I have had a crappy connection which I have resolved somewhat but it always seemed that I was dropped off. And then again I have never been an online junky. Eg I used to play muds, core exiles and things. I found unless I devoted part of my day to ce or whatever the rest was I would have to put time asside for the game. At 08:29 p.m. 20/11/2011 +0800, you wrote: I am finding it getting a bit boring playing with no objectives. While waiting for the next update of swamp, I changed my playing style and find it more exciting this way. Think it will keep me going for quite some time. this is a recording of my new way of playing swamp. Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2106729/steady%20the%20butcher.mp3 é¦å'/Steady Goh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp and finding the safe zone in new version
to track the save zone is the ~ key shift + `. It's good to take note of the coordinates since you will have to go there a lot. 锦发/Steady Goh - Original Message - From: Sylvester Thomas cinema-...@msn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Swamp and finding the safe zone in new version Greetings! Loving the new features. One question however, the safe zone is no longer one of the options when activating your radar any more, so just wondering how to find the safe zone? Sorry if this is a dumb question, just a bit lost. Thanks and keep up the Excellent work! Sly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Oh yeah dark, I loved elite. Used to play it on my commodore omega 500. I also played frontier elite 2 which was much much harder. Although fun because you could land on planets. I used to get the big frater ship called the panther clipper, I filled it with shield generators, this is for fun mind, then I'd take off and turn the engines off and let the ship bounce! It was rather amusing to say the least! The other thing I liked to do is to fuel scoop planets and stars. Yes elite is the father of the space sim, I miss it a great deal. It was very inventive for it's time, frontier even more so, purely because of the sheer physics involved and the size of the actual universe. It was basically the home galaxy all of it. incredible really to get over 10 stars and planets on 2 little floppies. And then of course there was the whole science thing of the hyperspace affect. What took a few seconds in hyperspace took days in real time. it was measured out according to mathematical formula. Yes we need a game that brings all the core elite elements into play. Also with a few elements from the x beyond the frontier series. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 20 November 2011 22:29 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space stratagy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released! Hi Darren. i like the idea of a space stratogy game, sinse having single player versions is very different and imho far more preferable to a multiplayer one. However, if it were a single player game I'd want it to have some significant differences from the online affairs available. elite for instance, which is possibly the most famous game of that sort, though it used textual menues for combat missions and buying and selling, actually had a fully 3D flight system. You just set the nav beacon for where you wanted and followed it in full 360 degree 3D action, dodging pirates or fighting on the way. This is the sort of thing I'd love to see in a stand alone single player game, features that really make use of what is there. Castaways for instance in it's basic map structure with grid coordinates and ticks of time is in one sense rather like soemthing like tribal wars. however, even if we ignore the fact that your opponents in castaways are dynamic according to the mission rather than thousands of online players, the game has an ai which is truly unique, and makes the management of jobs, people and resources far more interesting and dynamic than any online game could do. So, while I'd love a space trader (especially for the exploring), I'd want something more in the game than just flying, trading and possibly turn based combat, sinse Ce does many of those things extremely well pluss more. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
Hit enter whilst in the Safe Zone. There will be a donate equipment entry. Kai - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b How do you drop items in safe zone? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Oh yeah dark, I loved elite. Used to play it on my commodore omega 500. I also played frontier elite 2 which was much much harder. Although fun because you could land on planets. I used to get the big frater ship called the panther clipper, I filled it with shield generators, this is for fun mind, then I'd take off and turn the engines off and let the ship bounce! It was rather amusing to say the least! The other thing I liked to do is to fuel scoop planets and stars. Yes elite is the father of the space sim, I miss it a great deal. It was very inventive for it's time, frontier even more so, purely because of the sheer physics involved and the size of the actual universe. It was basically the home galaxy all of it. incredible really to get over 10 stars and planets on 2 little floppies. And then of course there was the whole science thing of the hyperspace affect. What took a few seconds in hyperspace took days in real time. it was measured out according to mathematical formula. Yes we need a game that brings all the core elite elements into play. Also with a few elements from the x beyond the frontier series. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 20 November 2011 22:29 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space stratagy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released! Hi Darren. i like the idea of a space stratogy game, sinse having single player versions is very different and imho far more preferable to a multiplayer one. However, if it were a single player game I'd want it to have some significant differences from the online affairs available. elite for instance, which is possibly the most famous game of that sort, though it used textual menues for combat missions and buying and selling, actually had a fully 3D flight system. You just set the nav beacon for where you wanted and followed it in full 360 degree 3D action, dodging pirates or fighting on the way. This is the sort of thing I'd love to see in a stand alone single player game, features that really make use of what is there. Castaways for instance in it's basic map structure with grid coordinates and ticks of time is in one sense rather like soemthing like tribal wars. however, even if we ignore the fact that your opponents in castaways are dynamic according to the mission rather than thousands of online players, the game has an ai which is truly unique, and makes the management of jobs, people and resources far more interesting and dynamic than any online game could do. So, while I'd love a space trader (especially for the exploring), I'd want something more in the game than just flying, trading and possibly turn based combat, sinse Ce does many of those things extremely well pluss more. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Yes, sorry, should have mentioned it, but that website, abandonia.com generally offers abandonware games etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Oh yeah dark, I loved elite. Used to play it on my commodore omega 500. I also played frontier elite 2 which was much much harder. Although fun because you could land on planets. I used to get the big frater ship called the panther clipper, I filled it with shield generators, this is for fun mind, then I'd take off and turn the engines off and let the ship bounce! It was rather amusing to say the least! The other thing I liked to do is to fuel scoop planets and stars. Yes elite is the father of the space sim, I miss it a great deal. It was very inventive for it's time, frontier even more so, purely because of the sheer physics involved and the size of the actual universe. It was basically the home galaxy all of it. incredible really to get over 10 stars and planets on 2 little floppies. And then of course there was the whole science thing of the hyperspace affect. What took a few seconds in hyperspace took days in real time. it was measured out according to mathematical formula. Yes we need a game that brings all the core elite elements into play. Also with a few elements from the x beyond the frontier series. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 20 November 2011 22:29 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space stratagy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released! Hi Darren. i like the idea of a space stratogy game, sinse having single player versions is very different and imho far more preferable to a multiplayer one. However, if it were a single player game I'd want it to have some significant differences from the online affairs available. elite for instance, which is possibly the most famous game of that sort, though it used textual menues for combat missions and buying and selling, actually had a fully 3D flight system. You just set the nav beacon for where you wanted and followed it in full 360 degree 3D action, dodging pirates or fighting on the way. This is the sort of thing I'd love to see in a stand alone single player game, features that really make use of what is there. Castaways for instance in it's basic map structure with grid coordinates and ticks of time is in one sense rather like soemthing like tribal wars. however, even if we ignore the fact that your opponents in castaways are dynamic according to the mission rather than thousands of online players, the game has an ai which is truly unique, and makes the management of jobs, people and resources far more interesting and dynamic than any online game could do. So, while I'd love a space trader (especially for the exploring), I'd want something more in the game than just flying, trading and possibly turn based combat, sinse Ce does many of those things extremely well pluss more. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via
Re: [Audyssey] swamp query
Hi Joseph, Its good to see you here on the Audyssey list. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp bugs
Love the sounds and the new layout- but this is, for me who never got that good on the alst one, even more frustrating- I can't walk out of the save zone more than two blocks without dying lol. Targetting is still nearly imposible, also got killed in the save zone again- while donating an item! There seems to be a bug with experience and reputation- mine jumps all over the place...I donated enough items to get 170 rep, then saved the game, died later, and had 1 rep...same with exp, I was up to 500ish at one point, then it went down to 150, then 125. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
looking forward to playing this new update how do i turn on music On 11/21/11, Kai kaixi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hit enter whilst in the Safe Zone. There will be a donate equipment entry. Kai - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b How do you drop items in safe zone? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Yup also you need an emulator in order to run those games. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 10:12, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Yes, sorry, should have mentioned it, but that website, abandonia.com generally offers abandonware games etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Some of the Dos platform specific ones run alright in dosBox, although haven't really tried to actually play them too much, since still not really too accessible via windows7 and jaws, but, anyway. Haven't really bothered too much, except some of them, like elite, sun tzu's ancient art of war, and the original hobbit interactive fiction game are things I remember from a hell of a long time ago - remember playing them when they first came out, on things like my old commodore 64, and my first ever PC - an old XT, with something like a 20Mb hard drive...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Yup also you need an emulator in order to run those games. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 10:12, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Yes, sorry, should have mentioned it, but that website, abandonia.com generally offers abandonware games etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
It sounds great but i can't leave the safe zone. How do we do that? Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 11/21/2011 6:35 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Whoops I forgot to give the link for those who don't already know what it is. www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/Swamp.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
yes that is a problem maybe there should be a option in the menu that puts us outside addit other than that it is awesome On 11/21/11, Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com wrote: It sounds great but i can't leave the safe zone. How do we do that? Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 11/21/2011 6:35 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Whoops I forgot to give the link for those who don't already know what it is. www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/Swamp.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
i'll be adding you to skype ehen able accept ok thank you - Original Message - From: Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b It sounds great but i can't leave the safe zone. How do we do that? Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 11/21/2011 6:35 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Whoops I forgot to give the link for those who don't already know what it is. www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/Swamp.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Goodness now you are going back a bit. Speaking of space games am working with the developer of starbase orion to make it accessible. He is totally on board with it. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 13:13, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Some of the Dos platform specific ones run alright in dosBox, although haven't really tried to actually play them too much, since still not really too accessible via windows7 and jaws, but, anyway. Haven't really bothered too much, except some of them, like elite, sun tzu's ancient art of war, and the original hobbit interactive fiction game are things I remember from a hell of a long time ago - remember playing them when they first came out, on things like my old commodore 64, and my first ever PC - an old XT, with something like a 20Mb hard drive...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Yup also you need an emulator in order to run those games. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 10:12, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Yes, sorry, should have mentioned it, but that website, abandonia.com generally offers abandonware games etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Hello, What is starbase orion? Not heard of that one! Thanks. Dave. On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Goodness now you are going back a bit. Speaking of space games am working with the developer of starbase orion to make it accessible. He is totally on board with it. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 13:13, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Some of the Dos platform specific ones run alright in dosBox, although haven't really tried to actually play them too much, since still not really too accessible via windows7 and jaws, but, anyway. Haven't really bothered too much, except some of them, like elite, sun tzu's ancient art of war, and the original hobbit interactive fiction game are things I remember from a hell of a long time ago - remember playing them when they first came out, on things like my old commodore 64, and my first ever PC - an old XT, with something like a 20Mb hard drive...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! Yup also you need an emulator in order to run those games. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 10:12, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Yes, sorry, should have mentioned it, but that website, abandonia.com generally offers abandonware games etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! They are freeware games now the author has put them up for download so this isn't piracy before anybody asks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 21 November 2011 09:03 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! You can download a copy of both elite and elite plus from: http://www.abandonia.com/ Here are the elite search results: http://www.abandonia.com/en/search_abandonia/elite However, don't think it's accessible at all, but anyway...:) Stay well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Its am iphone game based on master of orion ii Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 14:48, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, What is starbase orion? Not heard of that one! Thanks. Dave. On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Goodness now you are going back a bit. Speaking of space games am working with the developer of starbase orion to make it accessible. He is totally on board with it. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 13:13, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Some of the Dos platform specific ones run alright in dosBox, although haven't really tried to actually play them too much, since still not really too accessible via windows7 and jaws, but, anyway. Haven't really bothered too much, except some of them, like elite, sun tzu's ancient art of war, and the original hobbit interactive fiction game are things I remember from a hell of a long time ago - remember playing them when they first came out, on things like my old commodore 64, and my first ever PC - an old XT, with something like a 20Mb hard drive...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
Hi, i cant wait to try this later. have the weapons keys changed? as i notice there are now more than 10. :D On 11/21/11, joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net wrote: i'll be adding you to skype ehen able accept ok thank you - Original Message - From: Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b It sounds great but i can't leave the safe zone. How do we do that? Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 11/21/2011 6:35 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Whoops I forgot to give the link for those who don't already know what it is. www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/Swamp.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
Well? Here's what I think so far. With the range on the weapons it's much harder to target. You end up wasting ammo because with the footsteps being louder it's hard to tell if a zombie is in range of your gun. The game seems sluggish now for some reason. I've only been playing for a few minutes now and keep dyeing without getting very far. I think it needs a little more balancing. I will keep playing and trying to get better, but right off the bat, I'm not too happy with this version at least from the stand point that Can't stay alive long enough to rack up anything. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ . Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released!
Hi, Master of orion is a game I'd love to play! Dave On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Its am iphone game based on master of orion ii Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 14:48, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, What is starbase orion? Not heard of that one! Thanks. Dave. On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Goodness now you are going back a bit. Speaking of space games am working with the developer of starbase orion to make it accessible. He is totally on board with it. Sent from my iPhone On 21 Nov 2011, at 13:13, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Some of the Dos platform specific ones run alright in dosBox, although haven't really tried to actually play them too much, since still not really too accessible via windows7 and jaws, but, anyway. Haven't really bothered too much, except some of them, like elite, sun tzu's ancient art of war, and the original hobbit interactive fiction game are things I remember from a hell of a long time ago - remember playing them when they first came out, on things like my old commodore 64, and my first ever PC - an old XT, with something like a 20Mb hard drive...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games wasRE:Game conceptsBGT Version1.1 Released! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
Then what would be the point of the safe zone? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:50 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b yes that is a problem maybe there should be a option in the menu that puts us outside addit other than that it is awesome On 11/21/11, Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com wrote: It sounds great but i can't leave the safe zone. How do we do that? Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 11/21/2011 6:35 AM, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: Whoops I forgot to give the link for those who don't already know what it is. www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames/Swamp.zip --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, Which are all valid points. However, as Philip mentioned he has put restrictions in BGT to keep novis BGT developers from dumping 100 2048 KB of values into the registry So it sounds like Philip is aware of the issues and is taking steps to minimize any risk of someone over using and abusing the registry as you described. As far as removing keys I haven't looked but it stands to reason if BGT can create registry keys and set registry values that there should be wrapper functions for deleting them as well. In C++ the functions to do this is RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx. If BGT has wrapper functions for those registry functions someone can add an option to delete keys prior to the uninstallation of the game. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, I understand your decision to include it completely, though I still can't say I agree. Still if your paying customers request it, it is understandable. Kai, I did not question registry support because it was redundant. I questioned it because Microsoft's prinsipals from which they built the registry is flawed and dangerous. This could lead to unhappy users of bgt games where someone for example decided to (accidentally?) dump 100 2048 kb values into a registry that usually has a size 10mb. This would have an effect on the whole operating system of the user. There is also no way to control the automatic removal of these keys if a user deletes the bgt script. To my mind it just didn't seem worth the extra effort for no gain and a big risk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released!
Hi Darren, Ah, I see. As I recall the version for the Amiga was a little different from the Atari versions. I never understood quite why, but every time Elite was ported or rewritten for a different platform they offered different ships, slightly different missions, etc. Perhaps it was a marketing ploy to purchase the same game more than once or the developer just liked making different versions. However, I do recall playing two or three different versions back in the 80's. On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I had the omiga 500 version. I loved it. Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land
Well the new update should hopefully help solve the problem where everyone had everything they needed. I've made it a bit harder now. When it comes to your multiplayer comments, those are exactly the kinds of things I wanted to solve with Castaways and Swamp. With the centralized server people don't need to keep track of IP numbers, and the server is coded in a way that allows even very slow connections to use it. While it certainly isn't perfect, it seems to be doing what I intended. I havn't played swamp for a bit but thats mainly because there is now little challenge after I mastered multiplayerthough I think this is on the todo list. Right now for example we get to much ammo, etc. Its almost garenteed that we will get more than enough of anything, and everything. In a short time but then this is still a concept in progress and honestly playing this online thing is real good. I previously didn't bother with online play because of really bad things going on, from the fact you had to know everyone's ip on some games to bad things happening with my connection. It maybe have been that I have had a crappy connection which I have resolved somewhat but it always seemed that I was dropped off. And then again I have never been an online junky. Eg I used to play muds, core exiles and things. I found unless I devoted part of my day to ce or whatever the rest was I would have to put time asside for the game. At 08:29 p.m. 20/11/2011 +0800, you wrote: --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp bugs
I'm looking in to both issues, you getting killed in the safe zone, and the reputation being buggy. Love the sounds and the new layout- but this is, for me who never got that good on the alst one, even more frustrating- I can't walk out of the save zone more than two blocks without dying lol. Targetting is still nearly imposible, also got killed in the save zone again- while donating an item! There seems to be a bug with experience and reputation- mine jumps all over the place...I donated enough items to get 170 rep, then saved the game, died later, and had 1 rep...same with exp, I was up to 500ish at one point, then it went down to 150, then 125. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
I'm considering a change that would start you lined up with the door to exit. yes that is a problem maybe there should be a option in the menu that puts us outside addit other than that it is awesome --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land
it is still hard you not suppose to be trapped in the safe zone and the river is insane still love it On 11/21/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: Well the new update should hopefully help solve the problem where everyone had everything they needed. I've made it a bit harder now. When it comes to your multiplayer comments, those are exactly the kinds of things I wanted to solve with Castaways and Swamp. With the centralized server people don't need to keep track of IP numbers, and the server is coded in a way that allows even very slow connections to use it. While it certainly isn't perfect, it seems to be doing what I intended. I havn't played swamp for a bit but thats mainly because there is now little challenge after I mastered multiplayerthough I think this is on the todo list. Right now for example we get to much ammo, etc. Its almost garenteed that we will get more than enough of anything, and everything. In a short time but then this is still a concept in progress and honestly playing this online thing is real good. I previously didn't bother with online play because of really bad things going on, from the fact you had to know everyone's ip on some games to bad things happening with my connection. It maybe have been that I have had a crappy connection which I have resolved somewhat but it always seemed that I was dropped off. And then again I have never been an online junky. Eg I used to play muds, core exiles and things. I found unless I devoted part of my day to ce or whatever the rest was I would have to put time asside for the game. At 08:29 p.m. 20/11/2011 +0800, you wrote: --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
The weapons now start with the ~ key, move along the top number row, and even use - if I'm not mistaken. i cant wait to try this later. have the weapons keys changed? as i notice there are now more than 10. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
same here it seems to hard On 11/21/11, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Well? Here's what I think so far. With the range on the weapons it's much harder to target. You end up wasting ammo because with the footsteps being louder it's hard to tell if a zombie is in range of your gun. The game seems sluggish now for some reason. I've only been playing for a few minutes now and keep dyeing without getting very far. I think it needs a little more balancing. I will keep playing and trying to get better, but right off the bat, I'm not too happy with this version at least from the stand point that Can't stay alive long enough to rack up anything. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ . Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
The weapon range problem is a bug that I'm just now testing the fix for. The game was measuring the ranges in a different scale than tiles, but I put in the numbers meaning for them to be measured in tiles. So stupid mistake on my part, lol. The sluggishness is a result of the extra 100 zombies in the map. I'm working on some ways to correct that, but it seems somewhere between 50 and 150 several people's computers reached a point with a noticeable difference in performance. For me, I noticed it only when I had 200 zombies which is why I kept it at 150 for the update release. I'm fairly certain I can get performance back up to where it was, or perhaps even better, I just need a little time. The difficulty is something that was hard to balance without real people populating the server. As people play over the next day or two, I'll get a much better idea of how to tweak things. A multiplayer map that's overly hard for 1 person becomes super easy when you have a dozen armed players mowing down the undead. This means I'll have to figure out the new normal and try to make adjustments to match it. Well? Here's what I think so far. With the range on the weapons it's much harder to target. You end up wasting ammo because with the footsteps being louder it's hard to tell if a zombie is in range of your gun. The game seems sluggish now for some reason. I've only been playing for a few minutes now and keep dyeing without getting very far. I think it needs a little more balancing. I will keep playing and trying to get better, but right off the bat, I'm not too happy with this version at least from the stand point that Can't stay alive long enough to rack up anything. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ . Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
I do plan to watch things and make adjustments to the difficulty, but I'm reluctant to do that until I've given people a chance to get used to the changes. When the game first added multiplayer I was flooded with emails about the game being too hard. Those slowly died down and soon I was flooded with emails saying it was too easy and people were starting to get bored. I think this could end up being the same type of situation where people just need to get used to it. I am willing to change it though, when the time is right. same here it seems to hard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released!
Yeah I had heard that, the Atari 520st was somewhat different as well. Although I never got that far with it but to be honest it wasn't a patch on the omega version of the game. On the omega version, you could scoop fuel from stars, use the fuel scoop to get cargo, my favourite mission in that game was the cloking ship one because if you completed it and destroyed the ship, you got to keep the cloking device. Another one was for an ecm jammer, I can't remember what mission that was but again it was another ship, the hardest one was the naval one for the thargoids. They just kept coming! You had to deliver papers on the making of the thargoid ship to some navel base something like that and every system you went too, depending on your rating, you'd get 3, 4 or even 5 of the beggers on you at any 1 time. imagine that, 5 or so thargoid ships, loaded with remotely controlled thargons, yeah that was hard hard hard! Lol in some cases I'd turn my ship around and use my retro's pointed at the planet just so I could get there! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 November 2011 16:08 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] space strategy games was RE: Game concepts BGT Version1.1 Released! Hi Darren, Ah, I see. As I recall the version for the Amiga was a little different from the Atari versions. I never understood quite why, but every time Elite was ported or rewritten for a different platform they offered different ships, slightly different missions, etc. Perhaps it was a marketing ploy to purchase the same game more than once or the developer just liked making different versions. However, I do recall playing two or three different versions back in the 80's. On 11/21/11, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I had the omiga 500 version. I loved it. Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
well it is not slow on my computer zombees just dont let me get far On 11/21/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: I do plan to watch things and make adjustments to the difficulty, but I'm reluctant to do that until I've given people a chance to get used to the changes. When the game first added multiplayer I was flooded with emails about the game being too hard. Those slowly died down and soon I was flooded with emails saying it was too easy and people were starting to get bored. I think this could end up being the same type of situation where people just need to get used to it. I am willing to change it though, when the time is right. same here it seems to hard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BariBariFutsal
Hey everyone, I'd like to invite you all to check out this new game I bought. It was translated into English, and I believe it comes in several other languages as well. It's a little pricey, but it has online play, and several other modes. You can check out the thread here: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=6403 Give it a try, it's awesome. Look forward to playing some of you. Ryan 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4eca8e3925a8330228fst06vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
Fair anough. That's actually what I was hoping you would say. I just wanted you to know. Thanks. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp. I do plan to watch things and make adjustments to the difficulty, but I'm reluctant to do that until I've given people a chance to get used to the changes. When the game first added multiplayer I was flooded with emails about the game being too hard. Those slowly died down and soon I was flooded with emails saying it was too easy and people were starting to get bored. I think this could end up being the same type of situation where people just need to get used to it. I am willing to change it though, when the time is right. same here it seems to hard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
Sweet. Thanks. I am gonna go die some more then, If if it helps you lol! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp. The weapon range problem is a bug that I'm just now testing the fix for. The game was measuring the ranges in a different scale than tiles, but I put in the numbers meaning for them to be measured in tiles. So stupid mistake on my part, lol. The sluggishness is a result of the extra 100 zombies in the map. I'm working on some ways to correct that, but it seems somewhere between 50 and 150 several people's computers reached a point with a noticeable difference in performance. For me, I noticed it only when I had 200 zombies which is why I kept it at 150 for the update release. I'm fairly certain I can get performance back up to where it was, or perhaps even better, I just need a little time. The difficulty is something that was hard to balance without real people populating the server. As people play over the next day or two, I'll get a much better idea of how to tweak things. A multiplayer map that's overly hard for 1 person becomes super easy when you have a dozen armed players mowing down the undead. This means I'll have to figure out the new normal and try to make adjustments to match it. Well? Here's what I think so far. With the range on the weapons it's much harder to target. You end up wasting ammo because with the footsteps being louder it's hard to tell if a zombie is in range of your gun. The game seems sluggish now for some reason. I've only been playing for a few minutes now and keep dyeing without getting very far. I think it needs a little more balancing. I will keep playing and trying to get better, but right off the bat, I'm not too happy with this version at least from the stand point that Can't stay alive long enough to rack up anything. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ . Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6648 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A swamp bug.
One thing I just descovered when starting a new game is that if I hear a zombie grone and I turn my mouse to pan the sound does not pan with me. OOPSY! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Drummer for The Overflow worship band! http://www.theoverflowband.com http://www.theoverflowband.com/ . Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. On 11/21/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Which are all valid points. However, as Philip mentioned he has put restrictions in BGT to keep novis BGT developers from dumping 100 2048 KB of values into the registry So it sounds like Philip is aware of the issues and is taking steps to minimize any risk of someone over using and abusing the registry as you described. As far as removing keys I haven't looked but it stands to reason if BGT can create registry keys and set registry values that there should be wrapper functions for deleting them as well. In C++ the functions to do this is RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx. If BGT has wrapper functions for those registry functions someone can add an option to delete keys prior to the uninstallation of the game. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, I understand your decision to include it completely, though I still can't say I agree. Still if your paying customers request it, it is understandable. Kai, I did not question registry support because it was redundant. I questioned it because Microsoft's prinsipals from which they built the registry is flawed and dangerous. This could lead to unhappy users of bgt games where someone for example decided to (accidentally?) dump 100 2048 kb values into a registry that usually has a size 10mb. This would have an effect on the whole operating system of the user. There is also no way to control the automatic removal of these keys if a user deletes the bgt script. To my mind it just didn't seem worth the extra effort for no gain and a big risk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Need some Logitech f510 help.
Hi to all. I just received a newer Logitech f510 in today's snail mail. Now for Three D Velocity. It came in the x mode and asked me to switch to direct mode so that I could set up a profile. What should I do? I have tried to fly bvia tdv with the switch on the back of the f510 both ways and I'm still having the same old problem. Is there a way to cheance the X and Y axes manually for the right hand stick and if so, what should be the numbers. Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane hands down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Just tried f510 with Aliens outback.
Ao isn't seeing the gamepad. I've tried both USB ports. I'm starting to hate the Logitech F510. Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane hands down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Quick swamp question
IU'm not sure if this is new to the game or not, but one problem I ran into is my pistol got broken very quickly, meaning I was running around manically with an axe which wasn't so much fun, especially sinse I can't actually find the beakon for the safezone where presumably I could borrow a gun, I tried shift zero but that didn't work). So firstly, what is the safe zone beacon command? and secondly, While I get the broken weapons thing, it makes starting off rather tough. I'm not sure what the way around this is, sinse even in single player it seems my pistol gets broken at the first hit. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quick swamp question
hi dark, the safe zone command is shift ` secondly, yeah i know what ya mean about the weapons, i had a different problem, running out of ammo way to quickly. lol. and not enough corpses to rade. he is still working on balancing the new stuff, so don't take things to hard yet. best regards dallas On 22 November 2011 07:09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: IU'm not sure if this is new to the game or not, but one problem I ran into is my pistol got broken very quickly, meaning I was running around manically with an axe which wasn't so much fun, especially sinse I can't actually find the beakon for the safezone where presumably I could borrow a gun, I tried shift zero but that didn't work). So firstly, what is the safe zone beacon command? and secondly, While I get the broken weapons thing, it makes starting off rather tough. I'm not sure what the way around this is, sinse even in single player it seems my pistol gets broken at the first hit. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, I can insert a limit of, say, 100 values for each game. Each value can be at most 2048 bytes in length, which would mean that a script writer could not store more than 200 kb in the registry. Would this solve the problem for you? I think though that no matter how you look at it, badly written code can always cause more or less serious issues. I have screen reader support in the engine where you can interrupt and stop the speech, and if someone wrote an infinite loop accidentally that kept stopping the speech it might be hard to shut that program down. Does this mean we should not have screen reader support? You can also delete files with the file_delete function. Again, something else that could be abused. There just comes a point where you need to decide whether or not you trust the writer of the game enough to subject your computer to their code, which is true of any game or software application. It is hard for me as the engine designer to prevent people from, intentionally or unintentionally, writing code that may be harmful in one way or another. But I will certainly do as much as I possibly can to make it more unlikely to occur, including limiting registry access if people feel it is necessary. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. On 11/21/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Which are all valid points. However, as Philip mentioned he has put restrictions in BGT to keep novis BGT developers from dumping 100 2048 KB of values into the registry So it sounds like Philip is aware of the issues and is taking steps to minimize any risk of someone over using and abusing the registry as you described. As far as removing keys I haven't looked but it stands to reason if BGT can create registry keys and set registry values that there should be wrapper functions for deleting them as well. In C++ the functions to do this is RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx. If BGT has wrapper functions for those registry functions someone can add an option to delete keys prior to the uninstallation of the game. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, I understand your decision to include it completely, though I still can't say I agree. Still if your paying customers request it, it is understandable. Kai, I did not question registry support because it was redundant. I questioned it because Microsoft's prinsipals from which they built the registry is flawed and dangerous. This could lead to unhappy users of bgt games where someone for example decided to (accidentally?) dump 100 2048 kb values into a registry that usually has a size 10mb. This would have an effect on the whole operating system of the user. There is also no way to control the automatic removal of these keys if a user deletes the bgt script. To my mind it just didn't seem worth the extra effort for no gain and a big risk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
hi, just tested something. found that when i am killed, i keep my kills, and things like that, but loose my reputation, and expeerience. thought i would just make you aware of that. dallas On 22 November 2011 02:37, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: The weapons now start with the ~ key, move along the top number row, and even use - if I'm not mistaken. i cant wait to try this later. have the weapons keys changed? as i notice there are now more than 10. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
Thing is, while I see why the loot rate got dropped and the need to lose items on death- it's like being tortured lol. While yes, some people were so good that they could rack up thousands of rounds of ammo in the last release, there were some, okay I admit, I was/am one of the suckier ones, who always ran out- even when the loot was high- just cause I spent so much ammo hitting nothing. So now that loots are hard to find, and you lose them on death- it's like being punished for not being good at the game lol. In fact it's so frustrating at times that I almost trashed the mouse...rofl I'm talking about, spending all your remaining points to buy ammo, so you stand a fighting chance, then head out, get jumped by like 10 zombies at once, died, all gone. Then you sneak around with the axe, good, find several clips, time to go back to safe zone, jumped by the same group of 10, died again, all gone. Am I whining? Yes I am, lol, but that's cause there's something I really gotta whine about. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
lol. it kinda feels that way, but as its still a work in trying to balance things out, mind you, reducing the lute would have been good in the old game, but as there are now more zombies, and harder to kill, the ammo is actually needed now. dallas On 22 November 2011 07:58, Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca wrote: Thing is, while I see why the loot rate got dropped and the need to lose items on death- it's like being tortured lol. While yes, some people were so good that they could rack up thousands of rounds of ammo in the last release, there were some, okay I admit, I was/am one of the suckier ones, who always ran out- even when the loot was high- just cause I spent so much ammo hitting nothing. So now that loots are hard to find, and you lose them on death- it's like being punished for not being good at the game lol. In fact it's so frustrating at times that I almost trashed the mouse...rofl I'm talking about, spending all your remaining points to buy ammo, so you stand a fighting chance, then head out, get jumped by like 10 zombies at once, died, all gone. Then you sneak around with the axe, good, find several clips, time to go back to safe zone, jumped by the same group of 10, died again, all gone. Am I whining? Yes I am, lol, but that's cause there's something I really gotta whine about. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp reflections
Addendum: isn't reputation/experience supposed to stay the same after you die? I don't mind if it doesn't, but am I remembering that correctly? It seems to reset. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
yep. its been a long time coming, and its great to see its here. a realistic shooting game! and yes, i do much the same, take things very ... very slow. ahahah. dallas On 22 November 2011 08:10, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quick swamp question
Hi. Well I figured out the problem, on a uk keyboard the ' key is the one to the right of semicolon, not to the left of 1 so I did find the beacon command. I've finally got some amo which is good, though i freely confess more is from kill rading than axe murdering, also from donating higher grade amo to the safezone for reputationa and spending on pistol amo instead, which is a good thing I admit. One weerd problem I'm having currently is wasting amo shooting at other players, sinse obviously it's better to pick zombies off when they're further away and you just here their footsteps rather than their grones, but I find my shot doesn't connect however close i am and realize I'm trying to shoot another human. I'm quite happy not shooting other people, but wasting amo on not shooting them is slightly more irritating :D. Perhaps a message such as the safezone one? he controls are taking a litle getting used to, as in fact are the graphics, particularly the way that the audio! turns your direction but the top down scrolling graphics do not, that was very whacky indeed! I've got it now though. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Quick swamp question hi dark, the safe zone command is shift ` secondly, yeah i know what ya mean about the weapons, i had a different problem, running out of ammo way to quickly. lol. and not enough corpses to rade. he is still working on balancing the new stuff, so don't take things to hard yet. best regards dallas On 22 November 2011 07:09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: IU'm not sure if this is new to the game or not, but one problem I ran into is my pistol got broken very quickly, meaning I was running around manically with an axe which wasn't so much fun, especially sinse I can't actually find the beakon for the safezone where presumably I could borrow a gun, I tried shift zero but that didn't work). So firstly, what is the safe zone beacon command? and secondly, While I get the broken weapons thing, it makes starting off rather tough. I'm not sure what the way around this is, sinse even in single player it seems my pistol gets broken at the first hit. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
From what I've gathered so far, 100 percent rep loss on death is rather harsh, as is losing your experience. I'd suggest follow the old mud method and lose a proportion, either that or have a reputation bank in the safe zone (which is a litle silly but might solve the problem). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
What I'm trying to learn currently is how to judge the weapon range in audio, so I know when I'm at close range and can start axe murdering. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections. yep. its been a long time coming, and its great to see its here. a realistic shooting game! and yes, i do much the same, take things very ... very slow. ahahah. dallas On 22 November 2011 08:10, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
yeah, i have to say, its very hard to tell what is 20 squares, and whats 50. lol. On 22 November 2011 08:31, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: What I'm trying to learn currently is how to judge the weapon range in audio, so I know when I'm at close range and can start axe murdering. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections. yep. its been a long time coming, and its great to see its here. a realistic shooting game! and yes, i do much the same, take things very ... very slow. ahahah. dallas On 22 November 2011 08:10, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
I don't know, I'm not finding it a problem. It just takes being sneaky until you're equipped. There is a philosophical question, should players who achieve skill be rewarded, or should players who have not yet achieved that skill be helped along? I see both sides of the argument, but I lean towards the former. Yes, there are skills and tactics that you have to pick up to survive. I haven't died from a shortage of ammo. The non-tracking zombies, and breaking weapons and me getting cocky, that's what has killed me so far. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:11 PM To: Johnny Tai; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo lol. it kinda feels that way, but as its still a work in trying to balance things out, mind you, reducing the lute would have been good in the old game, but as there are now more zombies, and harder to kill, the ammo is actually needed now. dallas On 22 November 2011 07:58, Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca wrote: Thing is, while I see why the loot rate got dropped and the need to lose items on death- it's like being tortured lol. While yes, some people were so good that they could rack up thousands of rounds of ammo in the last release, there were some, okay I admit, I was/am one of the suckier ones, who always ran out- even when the loot was high- just cause I spent so much ammo hitting nothing. So now that loots are hard to find, and you lose them on death- it's like being punished for not being good at the game lol. In fact it's so frustrating at times that I almost trashed the mouse...rofl I'm talking about, spending all your remaining points to buy ammo, so you stand a fighting chance, then head out, get jumped by like 10 zombies at once, died, all gone. Then you sneak around with the axe, good, find several clips, time to go back to safe zone, jumped by the same group of 10, died again, all gone. Am I whining? Yes I am, lol, but that's cause there's something I really gotta whine about. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi philip. Yes imposing the limmit of 100 values is a solution. I also think you should warn users of a script about a script accessing the registry as I would still not like keys floating around in my registry from games I tried once. I understand what you mean about the delete file command, but it is harder to accidentally delete the wrong file. My concern is less for malicious people and more for working with something they don't really understand. A file is simple and localized to your script while the registry is not. Even for your screen reader example, restarting the system would still allow the screen reader to work, where many keys in the registry would permanently slow down the system, even if they are later removed. Thank you. On 11/21/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Willem, I can insert a limit of, say, 100 values for each game. Each value can be at most 2048 bytes in length, which would mean that a script writer could not store more than 200 kb in the registry. Would this solve the problem for you? I think though that no matter how you look at it, badly written code can always cause more or less serious issues. I have screen reader support in the engine where you can interrupt and stop the speech, and if someone wrote an infinite loop accidentally that kept stopping the speech it might be hard to shut that program down. Does this mean we should not have screen reader support? You can also delete files with the file_delete function. Again, something else that could be abused. There just comes a point where you need to decide whether or not you trust the writer of the game enough to subject your computer to their code, which is true of any game or software application. It is hard for me as the engine designer to prevent people from, intentionally or unintentionally, writing code that may be harmful in one way or another. But I will certainly do as much as I possibly can to make it more unlikely to occur, including limiting registry access if people feel it is necessary. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. On 11/21/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Which are all valid points. However, as Philip mentioned he has put restrictions in BGT to keep novis BGT developers from dumping 100 2048 KB of values into the registry So it sounds like Philip is aware of the issues and is taking steps to minimize any risk of someone over using and abusing the registry as you described. As far as removing keys I haven't looked but it stands to reason if BGT can create registry keys and set registry values that there should be wrapper functions for deleting them as well. In C++ the functions to do this is RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx. If BGT has wrapper functions for those registry functions someone can add an option to delete keys prior to the uninstallation of the game. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, I understand your decision to include it completely, though I still can't say I agree. Still if your paying customers request it, it is understandable. Kai, I did not question registry support because it was redundant. I questioned it because Microsoft's prinsipals from which they built the registry is flawed and dangerous. This could lead to unhappy users of bgt games where someone for example decided to (accidentally?) dump 100 2048 kb values into a registry that usually has a size 10mb. This would have an effect on the whole operating system of the user. There is also no way to control the automatic removal of these keys if a user deletes the bgt script. To my mind it just didn't seem worth the extra effort for no gain and a big risk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Philip, Yes, I do think that would solve the problem, but I would recommend limiting it to 64 KB which is Microsoft's recommendation per software product. This keeps the registry small and prevents anyone from heavily abusing it. After all, 100 values is quite a lot, and I can't imagine any game requiring that many values for program settings etc. I hope you stressed that saved games should be serialized and written to a file not stored in the registry. As long as people do that 100 values isn't necessary for program settings, registration info, etc. On 11/21/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Willem, I can insert a limit of, say, 100 values for each game. Each value can be at most 2048 bytes in length, which would mean that a script writer could not store more than 200 kb in the registry. Would this solve the problem for you? I think though that no matter how you look at it, badly written code can always cause more or less serious issues. I have screen reader support in the engine where you can interrupt and stop the speech, and if someone wrote an infinite loop accidentally that kept stopping the speech it might be hard to shut that program down. Does this mean we should not have screen reader support? You can also delete files with the file_delete function. Again, something else that could be abused. There just comes a point where you need to decide whether or not you trust the writer of the game enough to subject your computer to their code, which is true of any game or software application. It is hard for me as the engine designer to prevent people from, intentionally or unintentionally, writing code that may be harmful in one way or another. But I will certainly do as much as I possibly can to make it more unlikely to occur, including limiting registry access if people feel it is necessary. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, True, but if we are talking a BGT script that is open source, you can review the code, and make changes as you see fit. Plus you would know what keys and values are being used in the registry and can pull them manually. Plus any decent registry cleaner should be able to find and delete unused keys and values. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi philip. Yes imposing the limmit of 100 values is a solution. I also think you should warn users of a script about a script accessing the registry as I would still not like keys floating around in my registry from games I tried once. I understand what you mean about the delete file command, but it is harder to accidentally delete the wrong file. My concern is less for malicious people and more for working with something they don't really understand. A file is simple and localized to your script while the registry is not. Even for your screen reader example, restarting the system would still allow the screen reader to work, where many keys in the registry would permanently slow down the system, even if they are later removed. Thank you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
i agree with christopher for the most part here. before, a skilled player was able to run around, blasting away, not caring much if they got killed. now we care, and that is a huge advantage to the game experience in my opinion. i still haven't quite figured out how to tell if zombies are far away, or behind a wall yet, and there seem to be tons of them congrigating there south of the safe zone. with some zombies not panning properly as the mouse is moved, its a huge problem, even with plenty of ammo. also, although i managed to get out of the safe zone building after spawning there once, i was not able to do so again, even after trying to go around the perimeter of the building in hopes of finding a door. quite frustrating. as jeremy said, this is a major release, so will take some tweaking and feedback, but i for one hope no matter what, he puts in a beginner server for the newer players to get going, and a second server for those that are experienced and want a real challenge. this is now a pretty hard game to get momentum in, and a lot of potential new players are going to give up if they can't get in a few easy kills while learning the game. also, i would reverse the order of the options when hitting enter in the safe zone. once we've read the history etc. no need to have to arrow through all that every time you wanna withdraw or deposit to the safe zone. glad you guys put sound effects in the menus, makes the game feel more professional and crisp. also, has anyone tried the field kits' new range ability to heal others? i only found one field kit so far, and was promptly zombie fodder, so i didn't get to check it out. btw, if you see a player named B A in there, thats me, for better or for worse. later che On 11/21/2011 4:33 PM, Dallas O'Brien wrote: yeah, i have to say, its very hard to tell what is 20 squares, and whats 50. lol. On 22 November 2011 08:31, darkd...@xgam.org wrote: What I'm trying to learn currently is how to judge the weapon range in audio, so I know when I'm at close range and can start axe murdering. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion listgamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections. yep. its been a long time coming, and its great to see its here. a realistic shooting game! and yes, i do much the same, take things very ... very slow. ahahah. dallas On 22 November 2011 08:10, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] new kof xiii vid!
Hi. As I believe Clemant said the best place to get menus, character grids and such for mainstream games is here, there are a few of us here who are mainstream gamers and I've always found this bunch to be very nice and willing to help out new mainstream gamers however we can, I'm certainly willing to share whatever menus, character grids etc. that I have. If we don't have an answer for you or you don't want to wait around for one, then yes you can always try the old trial and error method or get sighted assistance one time and write the menus down, that is usually what I do if possible so I can get playing as quickly as I can. Hope this helps an hope you decide to give mainstream gaming a try it really can be a blast. Game on. Tom On Nov 19, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Willem Venter wrote: Hi. Is there a place where info about menus and gameplay is available for these fighting games? It would be nice to play, but I think many people on this list, me included, hesitate to buy a game they cannot try out propperly. Personally, my sighted friends do not play or enjoy these types of games, so sighted help isn't always available. On 11/19/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Menus need to be learned.. but with any other fighting game, the case is the same. Gameplay itself is quite accessible. - Original Message - From: Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new kof xiii vid! Is this game acissable? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, Yes, I know all that. I wasn't talking about a third-party installer, but talking about adding the ability to remove and delete keys from the game script itself. I haven't checked over the new docs for BGT 1.1 but I'm guessing Philip should have some functions in BGT similar to RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx to remove keys from the registry as needed. If so there could be an option in the game's settings menu to delete registry keys/values. In other words clean up after itself before you delete the script. Make sense? So in a nutshell if the script can clean up for itself its not totally reliant on a third-party installer to remove registry keys their script creates. Any programming language or API I've ever used could both create and delete registry entries it uses. It is merely up to the developer to add this extra functionality to his/her game script to clean up after itself if a third-party installer isn't being used. I'd advise Philip to recommend the use of a feature like that to make it easier for gamers to insure no registry keys and stray values are left behind when deleting the BGT script in question. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new kof xiii vid!
Hi. Wow yeah definitely sounds like one to look into getting. I'm not very familiar with this series at all but very well may be tempted to give this one a try sometime. Thanks for the link. Tom On Nov 17, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Clement Chou wrote: Okay! So... here's the latest vid for this game, and the game is less than a week away! Damn it I want to play now! http://youtu.be/X9Vw8LxJNFI Tuesday can't come soon enough! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Thomas. I don't think you can expect users with little computer knoledge to inspect a bgt script for entries that are made to the registry or even use a registry editor or cleaner. Also I'm not currently in the habbit of reading the source of every bgt game I try. It would simply take too much time. I guess a delete created registry keys item in the menu could solve the problem of not having an installer, but a menu item like this cannot be enforced by bgt, so not every scripter will make one. On 11/22/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Yes, I know all that. I wasn't talking about a third-party installer, but talking about adding the ability to remove and delete keys from the game script itself. I haven't checked over the new docs for BGT 1.1 but I'm guessing Philip should have some functions in BGT similar to RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx to remove keys from the registry as needed. If so there could be an option in the game's settings menu to delete registry keys/values. In other words clean up after itself before you delete the script. Make sense? So in a nutshell if the script can clean up for itself its not totally reliant on a third-party installer to remove registry keys their script creates. Any programming language or API I've ever used could both create and delete registry entries it uses. It is merely up to the developer to add this extra functionality to his/her game script to clean up after itself if a third-party installer isn't being used. I'd advise Philip to recommend the use of a feature like that to make it easier for gamers to insure no registry keys and stray values are left behind when deleting the BGT script in question. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
There is a bug regarding the reputation system, and I will have it fixed as soon as I'm able. hi, just tested something. found that when i am killed, i keep my kills, and things like that, but loose my reputation, and expeerience. thought i would just make you aware of that. dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land
how didd you do that! - Original Message - From: gamers-requ...@audyssey.org To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: Gamers Digest, Vol 69, Issue 209 Send Gamers mailing list submissions to gamers@audyssey.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gamers-requ...@audyssey.org You can reach the person managing the list at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Gamers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Game concepts BGT Version 1.1 Released! (Jeremy Kaldobsky) 2. Re: Swamp question (Jeremy Kaldobsky) 3. Re: Steady the butcher in zombie land (Jeremy Kaldobsky) 4. Re: Swamp question (lenron brown) 5. Re: Game concepts BGT Version 1.1 Released! (Thomas Ward) 6. Re: Game concepts BGT Version 1.1 Released! (Darren Harris) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game concepts BGT Version 1.1 Released! Message-ID: 1321795701.51051.yahoomailclas...@web1201.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you Jorge, I'm glad you hear you enjoy my games. :) I plan to continue making games, but I think I will try to spend a little more time on each one so that they become longer. Of course this does mean fewer overall titles, but it's worth trying since it seems like what the majority are asking for. Jeremy, i just wanted to tell you: please go on with your projects and go on with your own style of development. In this community the thing the people do best is to criticize without presenting any positive ideas. Your games are a big fresh air on this community and I would love to see you going on with your games. People can say that your games are short but some of them if they had the same ideas before, they could easily charge 30 dollars or more. If they say the games are short, why they didn't come up with the same ideas before? A Fsp multiplayer game only can please the majority of players and why noone did that before excepting the complicated case of audioquake? I understand why some people can be worried about your games because in my opinion it's not normal for this community that the best audiogame ever produced is still railracer which is 5 years old. Just my opinions so go on with your games. Because of my professional life and my small baby, I don't have much time to play but when I have some minutes I? enjoy very much your swamp. Cheers, Jorge Gon?alves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:30:51 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp question Message-ID: 1321795851.46896.yahoomailclas...@web1209.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lenron, the progress.ini file is created the first time you run Swamp, so if you haven't played it yet then the file won't be found in the folder. To solve this, just run the game and exit, and the file will be there in the main Swamp folder. where can i find the progress.ini i did not see it in the folder what is the file called -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:39:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land Message-ID: 1321796342.82549.yahoomailclas...@web1207.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I can say this for sure, you will be an absolute beast with the Axe after practicing like this for a while. haha! I am finding it getting a bit boring playing with no objectives. While waiting for the next update of swamp, I changed my playing style and find it more exciting this way. Think it will keep me going for quite some time. this is a recording of my new way of playing swamp. Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2106729/steady%20the%20butcher.mp3 ??/Steady Goh -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:19:27 -0600 From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp question Message-ID: caa86uuqprv58po_p28cc0zp86gyjnfj0rm8_utsjxutk5w9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 how would i turn this on i am using windows 7 On 11/20/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: Lenron, the progress.ini file is created the first time you run Swamp, so if you haven't played it yet then the
[Audyssey] intro and questions
Hello all, My name is Laurel and I just became a member of this list. I want to tame a moment and introduce myself to you all. I also have a few questions for you all. I am from Dallas Texas and am a third year university student. I study French and Russian and love learning languages! I use JAWS screen reader along with an iPhone. I have a yellow lab female guide dog from Guide Dogs for the Blind named Stockard. I am interested in learning to write and create text based games as well as iPhone applications and other accessible games for blind people. This leads me to my questions. /smiles/ I know that in order to write apps and games I need to learn a computer language so that I can code properly. I also know that there are a tun of computer programs out there that can help you write and design your games and apps. My first question is what are the computer programs out there that are the most JAWS accessible? I am having a hard time deciding whether I should try to use c++, java or what because I don't know what is good with JAWS. My second question is, I'm wondering if any of you would be willing to menter me some. Like I said, I'm just learning how to do this and I'm still learning the different computer languages used to create games/apps. So would somebody be willing to menter me and help me learn how to do this? Basically, I need somebody to help me get started and point me in the right direction as far as resources and helping me choose which programs to use, how to go about creating a game etc. Thanks, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
Wow. All I can say is wow. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:30:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b After giving it quite a bit of thought, and debating it with Kai, and flipping a coin, I've decided to post what I do have done so that people can begin testing out the new content while I work on the rest. The coin was just for fun afterward, but it actually agreed with the decision which was pretty cool. Version 1.2b has been posted and you will notice many many changes in this change log. Please know that your old characters have been ground up and fed to the new Zombies, so you must start over with a fresh start. Not everyone will be happy about that, and indeed some people were kicking and screaming as we ground them into zombi-chow, but that's life. Or death. Whichever. Grenades and Mission quests are not in this update! They are rather big additions that I was saving for last, and I will continue to work on them as people enjoy all this new fun stuff. Kai has done an excellent job on sounds, so we're both hoping everyone will enjoy this. Changes from version 1.1b to 1.2b - - Dogs movement speed has been increased a little. - Zombies should no longer be able to get into the safe zone. - Zombies have some updated sounds. - Pressing Shift + ? will announce who else is on the server. - 3 new voices have been added. - Cycling through screen reader options now uses sound files instead of synth speech. - The server used to contain 50 zombies at all times, it now holds 150, with the foundation for me to add more if needed. - Sounds heard through walls have been adjusted to reflect the thickness of the wall. - Zombie AI is improved to help them find you in complex environments. They are less likely to get stuck and stand around waiting for you to come back within slashing distance. - Zombie AI is more likely to give up persuing a target in order to chase down someone else. In the past a zombie chasing you would almost never stop to chase another person even if that person was making more noise and was closer. - The multiplayer map has had some changes. The entire eastern border has been expanded to reveal a lot of new land! - Sounds for the radar modes and beacons have been changed. - Window eyes should be fixed finally. - Guards don't yell out phrases as often because it sometimes became irritating. - Guards have their own separate phrases so they aren't as easily confused for other players. - Med kits have been replaced by the Field kit. The Field kit is used more like the weapons, and has an area of effect to heal nearby friends as well. - Field kits heal for 20 health on each use. - Kai has adjusted many of the weapon, zombie, and radar sounds. - Fixed a few bugs that were causing random game crashing. - Voices can now be heard by zombies. - Most of the weapons now have an alternative mode that is accessed by pressing T. - The axe can be set to defensive mode, which deals less damage but has a 20% chance to block a zombie attack. - T toggles the silencer for your pistol, assuming you've found a silencer already. - The Shotgun and Benelli can both be switched to scatter mode. In scatter mode you do less damage but the spread is more likely to hit zombies. - T toggles the scope on the hunting rifle, assuming you've found a scope already. - The MP5 and Assault rifle can be switched in to burst mode. Ammo is used up 3 times faster, and they make significantly more noise. - The Chainsaw has been added. It uses fuel as ammo, has range a little longer than the axe, and deals significantly more damage than most guns. - The Sniper rifle has been added. It uses 7.62mm ammo and deals more damage than any other gun. You must use T to crouch into the Sniper's position before you are able to fire. - The M60 machine gun has been added. It holds 100 rounds and uses T to brace the weapon against yourself. When braced, your movement speed is greatly reduced, but when not braced the gun is less accurate. - The Vulcan minigun has been added. It holds 1000 rounds of 7.62mm ammo and uses T to brace the weapon against yourself. Your speed is drastically slowed while holding the weapon, but you must brace to fire which will not let you move at all. - Players sending text messages will have a radio chirp mark their location around you. - You can no longer switch weapons while your current weapon is still in recoil or being reloaded. - A few sounds have been added to the menu. - There is a stereo sound test on the main menu. This tests to see if you have your headphones in the correct ears. - Tyrant zombies have 33% more health than before. - Matriarch zombies have more health now. They have as much as Tyrants used to have. - The Lamprey zombie type has been added. - The amount of loot to find on
[Audyssey] hello
Hello all, My name is Laurel. I am a college student in Texas and I have a yellow lab guide, female named Stockard, from Guide Dogs for the Blind. I've recently gotten in to gaming, because I'm only now discovering the good variety of accessible games out there. I have two questions for all of you. 1, I'm interested in learning the computer language necessary to write a game. I study French and Russian, so learning codes and such is not hard for me. Would anybody be willing to kind of menter me and help me sort of learn how to get started? I'm not even sure which programs I can use that are compatible with my JAWS screen reader. 2, My favorite game in the world is Monopoly. I have the RS Games version of this. If any of y'all know where I can get other versions of this, please let me know! I also play cyber nations, which is a text based internet browser game. www.cybernations.net. My favorite games are like monopoly, risk, any kind of battle/war game, and I love text based games too. Especially like nation building games and empire games. What are some of the games, free or paid, that you all would recommend? I also love sports, but I've never found an accessible sports game like football, so if y'all know of any, let me know!! If you would be willing maybe to menter me and teach me some about computer language and game writing, please email me privately. Thanks all! Have a great day! Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp version 1.2b
Swamp game folder to start fresh. Doing so is not necessary of course, but if you just unzip this new update into your existing folder, you will wind up with a ton of unused sound files that are just wasting space on your computer. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6646 (2020) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6647 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6647 (2021) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Thomas, Yes. In the settings object, There are functions to delete strings, numbers, etc that are placed into the registry. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:26 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi Willem, Yes, I know all that. I wasn't talking about a third-party installer, but talking about adding the ability to remove and delete keys from the game script itself. I haven't checked over the new docs for BGT 1.1 but I'm guessing Philip should have some functions in BGT similar to RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx to remove keys from the registry as needed. If so there could be an option in the game's settings menu to delete registry keys/values. In other words clean up after itself before you delete the script. Make sense? So in a nutshell if the script can clean up for itself its not totally reliant on a third-party installer to remove registry keys their script creates. Any programming language or API I've ever used could both create and delete registry entries it uses. It is merely up to the developer to add this extra functionality to his/her game script to clean up after itself if a third-party installer isn't being used. I'd advise Philip to recommend the use of a feature like that to make it easier for gamers to insure no registry keys and stray values are left behind when deleting the BGT script in question. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4029 - Release Date: 11/20/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
Actually you aren't supposed to lose any reputation or experience when you die, but a bug is causing most people to lose it when they do. I'm also thinking of adding more loot to the map, but I haven't had time to code for pretty much the entire day. From what I've gathered so far, 100 percent rep loss on death is rather harsh, as is losing your experience. I'd suggest follow the old mud method and lose a proportion, either that or have a reputation bank in the safe zone (which is a litle silly but might solve the problem). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Castaways: Windows 7?
Hi there, I have had a look at the read me instructions, and I can't figure out how to install them. Can you please run me through it step by step? Thanks in advance for your help, it is very much appreciated. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011 10:47 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Castaways: Windows 7? My games don't require you to install the VB6 runtime libraries, but DX7VB.dll may need to be registered and instructions for that are found in the readme.txt file. Hi Christina, Yes, you can play Castaways on a Windows 7 system, but your friend will likely have to install a number of VB 6 libraries because Windows 7 does not come with native VB 6 support. In short, your friend will need the Visual Basic 6 SP6 runtime for Windows, DX7VB.dll, and DX8VB.dll. HTH Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Mud games
Hi there I have heard a little bit about MUD games and think that I'd like to start playing them. My problem is that I know little about mud clients, and not much about which games are accessible or how to connect using the mud surver. I was wondering if anybody could please help me in terms of which mud clients are accessible. I use window-eyes 7.5. I have heard of VIPmud but can't figure out how to download a copy. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Paula --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp zombies Re: Steady the butcher in zombie land
Hi all, What is this swamp zombies game, sounds fun? Lindsay Cowell -original message- Subject: [Audyssey] swamp zombies Re: Steady the butcher in zombie land From: Steady Goh stea...@gmail.com Date: 21/11/2011 3:11 am Hi Jeremy, is more of me trying to use up my 800+ med kits. they hit me, i heal. I slash them, they die. haha! zombie suggestions i think we need more faster and smarter zombies. most of them are way slow, is kind of like just waiting for me to shoot. And also a type of zombie that can attack from far. Sometimes, the swamp is quite safe that I weel that we can picnic over there. How I wish I can be one of the zombies attacking other players. haha! 锦发/Steady Goh - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land I can say this for sure, you will be an absolute beast with the Axe after practicing like this for a while. haha! I am finding it getting a bit boring playing with no objectives. While waiting for the next update of swamp, I changed my playing style and find it more exciting this way. Think it will keep me going for quite some time. this is a recording of my new way of playing swamp. Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2106729/steady%20the%20butcher.mp3 锦发/Steady Goh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
I was hoping this new update would cause people to play a bit more cautiously. The fear had worn off on most people in the last version, and they ran around like rambo with very little worry. I have a few ideas why there are now some zombies that glitch and don't pan properly, but I will have to run some tests before I know for sure. Ok, got to run around a bit this afternoon while my kids were watching the Muppet Show. (And if that isn't cognitive dissonance, what is?) Anyway, in contrast to a lot of commentary I heard in game and here, I *love* the new feel of the game. I found myself acting as I would in that situation, i.e. being extremely cautious, stopping a lot to listen, walking a lot instead of running, and trying to take zombies at long range when I had the weapons. I have a new appreciation for the hunting rifle. Some things that seem problematic. There are zombies that don't appear to track correctly as I move my mouse, that is, the sound stays in the same place. I got killed by one of those buggers. Buying weapons with reputation seems to be broken. I only have this from radio chatter, but it appears that people tried buying weapons and couldn't though the reputation score changed, they didn't get weapons. All in all, this is a new game for me and I'm excited to master the new techniques. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp reflections
It isn't supposed to reset. It's a bug I need to fix. Addendum: isn't reputation/experience supposed to stay the same after you die? I don't mind if it doesn't, but am I remembering that correctly? It seems to reset. Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
Once I post the next update it will include the fix for the gun range bug. Once fixed, if you can hear the zombies, odd are your gun can reach them. Currently the bug is causing the guns to have drastically shorter ranges than they are supposed to have. yeah, i have to say, its very hard to tell what is 20 squares, and whats 50. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] swamp voice-shadow
Whoever did shadow, lol, great voice for this- it's probably my favorite next to my own! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mud games
Hi to download vip mud go to www.gmagames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
I'm gathering that serialization in this context is the conversion of a state vector into an ordered series of values that can be reconstructed into that state vector at will? Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi Willem, True, but if we are talking a BGT script that is open source, you can review the code, and make changes as you see fit. Plus you would know what keys and values are being used in the registry and can pull them manually. Plus any decent registry cleaner should be able to find and delete unused keys and values. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi philip. Yes imposing the limmit of 100 values is a solution. I also think you should warn users of a script about a script accessing the registry as I would still not like keys floating around in my registry from games I tried once. I understand what you mean about the delete file command, but it is harder to accidentally delete the wrong file. My concern is less for malicious people and more for working with something they don't really understand. A file is simple and localized to your script while the registry is not. Even for your screen reader example, restarting the system would still allow the screen reader to work, where many keys in the registry would permanently slow down the system, even if they are later removed. Thank you. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] intro and questions
Hello and welcome to the list. Unfortunately, I can't answer your questions. I hope you find lots of good games and ideas here. Christina - Original Message - From: Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] intro and questions Hello all, My name is Laurel and I just became a member of this list. I want to tame a moment and introduce myself to you all. I also have a few questions for you all. I am from Dallas Texas and am a third year university student. I study French and Russian and love learning languages! I use JAWS screen reader along with an iPhone. I have a yellow lab female guide dog from Guide Dogs for the Blind named Stockard. I am interested in learning to write and create text based games as well as iPhone applications and other accessible games for blind people. This leads me to my questions. /smiles/ I know that in order to write apps and games I need to learn a computer language so that I can code properly. I also know that there are a tun of computer programs out there that can help you write and design your games and apps. My first question is what are the computer programs out there that are the most JAWS accessible? I am having a hard time deciding whether I should try to use c++, java or what because I don't know what is good with JAWS. My second question is, I'm wondering if any of you would be willing to menter me some. Like I said, I'm just learning how to do this and I'm still learning the different computer languages used to create games/apps. So would somebody be willing to menter me and help me learn how to do this? Basically, I need somebody to help me get started and point me in the right direction as far as resources and helping me choose which programs to use, how to go about creating a game etc. Thanks, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Rogue games.
Hey, all. I was wondering if there are any rogue games that accessible for the blind whether they was made for sighted people or not? I am also looking for some rpg's aswell. I would like to find out about these type of games for the iphone. Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] intro and questions
Hi Laurel, Well, to begin with when it comes to the subject of what programming language/languages to use that depends on a lot of factors. Fact is if you ask 10 programmers that question chances are you will get 10 different answers in return. That's because a lot of it comes down to personal preference. What I mean by that is you really have to know what exactly you want the language to do, and what you find easiest to work with. For instance, C-style languages like C++, Java, and C# .Net all have a C-style syntax using lots of braces, brackets, and that sort of thing to define blocks of code. Basic style languages such as Visual Basic .Net uses a lot of words instead of symbols like Sub, End Sub, Class, End Class, etc to begin and end blocks of code. Then, there are languages like Python that have very little to no sintax at all and you define blocks of code through spacing and indention. Obviously, everyone has there preference which language is easiest to work with, and some people like one coding convention over another. this makes the choice extremely personal. Other things to think about is what platform or platforms you will be programming for, what tools are accessible for that language, and what types of games you will be creating. This largely would effect what languages you might choose to use as well. For example, you mentioned writing text adventures. The easiest way to do that is use one of the text adventure specific languages such as Inform 7, create the adventure in the Inform IDE/Compiler, and then run the file using your favorite Inform interpreter like Frotz, Winfrotz, etc. Its not necessary to use an all purpose language like C or C++ to write a text adventure unless of course you plan to write several different types of games besides just text adventures. Finally, as far accessibility goes you don't really have to have a big fansy IDE to write games and other software. Mostly what you need is a plane text editor like Windows Notepad to write the source code, IE the stuff you can read, and then compile it with the compiler of your choice. Accessibility is largely up to weather you feel more comfortable with a graphical IDE/compiler or if you would rather work with command line text tools.Most development software such as Microsoft's Visual Studio come with both a graphical environment, and an optional command line environment with text only tools. So I think the place to start is to figure out what language you want to work with, and then find the tools that is most accessible for that programming language. Oh, and before I forget there is one other option that needs mentioning. For a beginner thinking about creating Windows games Philip Bennefall has created an accessible game programming engine called BGT. At the moment its a Windows only product, but it might be a good place to start. Cheers! On 11/20/11, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, My name is Laurel and I just became a member of this list. I want to tame a moment and introduce myself to you all. I also have a few questions for you all. I am from Dallas Texas and am a third year university student. I study French and Russian and love learning languages! I use JAWS screen reader along with an iPhone. I have a yellow lab female guide dog from Guide Dogs for the Blind named Stockard. I am interested in learning to write and create text based games as well as iPhone applications and other accessible games for blind people. This leads me to my questions. /smiles/ I know that in order to write apps and games I need to learn a computer language so that I can code properly. I also know that there are a tun of computer programs out there that can help you write and design your games and apps. My first question is what are the computer programs out there that are the most JAWS accessible? I am having a hard time deciding whether I should try to use c++, java or what because I don't know what is good with JAWS. My second question is, I'm wondering if any of you would be willing to menter me some. Like I said, I'm just learning how to do this and I'm still learning the different computer languages used to create games/apps. So would somebody be willing to menter me and help me learn how to do this? Basically, I need somebody to help me get started and point me in the right direction as far as resources and helping me choose which programs to use, how to go about creating a game etc. Thanks, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] hello
Hi Laurel, Well, as far as Monopoly and sports games I'd highly recommend checking out Jim Kitchens website. If you go to http://www.kitchensinc.net you'll find a large variety of board games like Life, Monopoly, Yatzi, etc. He also has a Baseball game and a Football game. So you can pretty much find a lot of what you want all at one place. As for strategy/empire building games there is Castaways by Jeremy Kaldobski found at http://www.kaldobski.com/audiogames/ and there is a game called SoundRTS which I forget the website address off hand. If you want something comercial, but is extremely good, there is a game called Time of Conflict from http://www.gmagames.com which is probably the best empire building/strategy game out there right now. P.S. In the future could you please use a better subject than Hello. Its considered good list practice to give messages a subject that gives the reader a indication of what the topic is about. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, My name is Laurel. I am a college student in Texas and I have a yellow lab guide, female named Stockard, from Guide Dogs for the Blind. I've recently gotten in to gaming, because I'm only now discovering the good variety of accessible games out there. I have two questions for all of you. 1, I'm interested in learning the computer language necessary to write a game. I study French and Russian, so learning codes and such is not hard for me. Would anybody be willing to kind of menter me and help me sort of learn how to get started? I'm not even sure which programs I can use that are compatible with my JAWS screen reader. 2, My favorite game in the world is Monopoly. I have the RS Games version of this. If any of y'all know where I can get other versions of this, please let me know! I also play cyber nations, which is a text based internet browser game. www.cybernations.net. My favorite games are like monopoly, risk, any kind of battle/war game, and I love text based games too. Especially like nation building games and empire games. What are some of the games, free or paid, that you all would recommend? I also love sports, but I've never found an accessible sports game like football, so if y'all know of any, let me know!! If you would be willing maybe to menter me and teach me some about computer language and game writing, please email me privately. Thanks all! Have a great day! Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
Let me understand this clearly. You intend that we not be able to hear zombies that are beyond our weapons range, meaning that what we hear will depend upon what we have equipped? That seems problematic from a realism perspective, and with the axe/chain saw seems also problematic from the perspective of the game. How about having a command to estimate the range to the target most nearly centered, which won't report a range if the weapon is out of range, but we still hear the zombies at all ranges. Shift-t perhaps? Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:46 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections. Once I post the next update it will include the fix for the gun range bug. Once fixed, if you can hear the zombies, odd are your gun can reach them. Currently the bug is causing the guns to have drastically shorter ranges than they are supposed to have. yeah, i have to say, its very hard to tell what is 20 squares, and whats 50. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] my thoughts on the new swamp version
This may be a bit early, but here goes. Rather than detail everying, I'm going to make a list of the things I've run into. *The walking sounds are quite loud, not only does this distract me, and make it harder to here zombies, but it throws off my distance scale. *I can't tell if I hit stuff. The old version had that very distinctive impact sound, which I really need to know if i'm hitting stuff. This way, I can't tell if it's a wall I'm emptying my last clip of pistol ammo into, or that zombie right next to it. *Love the donate/get stuff feature! *Nice job on the background/situation, can't wait for the quests. *The zombies are rather difficult to tell apart from players in some cases, and when there are a lot of them, very hard to aim at. There may be more things as I play, but that's all for now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, I have now added this limitation. A user cannot write more than 100 values to the registry for a given product, and each of these values can be no larger than 2048 bytes. I think this is all I can do in terms of precautions. The rest just comes down to whether you trust a particular script writer's competence enough to run his or her code. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi philip. Yes imposing the limmit of 100 values is a solution. I also think you should warn users of a script about a script accessing the registry as I would still not like keys floating around in my registry from games I tried once. I understand what you mean about the delete file command, but it is harder to accidentally delete the wrong file. My concern is less for malicious people and more for working with something they don't really understand. A file is simple and localized to your script while the registry is not. Even for your screen reader example, restarting the system would still allow the screen reader to work, where many keys in the registry would permanently slow down the system, even if they are later removed. Thank you. On 11/21/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Willem, I can insert a limit of, say, 100 values for each game. Each value can be at most 2048 bytes in length, which would mean that a script writer could not store more than 200 kb in the registry. Would this solve the problem for you? I think though that no matter how you look at it, badly written code can always cause more or less serious issues. I have screen reader support in the engine where you can interrupt and stop the speech, and if someone wrote an infinite loop accidentally that kept stopping the speech it might be hard to shut that program down. Does this mean we should not have screen reader support? You can also delete files with the file_delete function. Again, something else that could be abused. There just comes a point where you need to decide whether or not you trust the writer of the game enough to subject your computer to their code, which is true of any game or software application. It is hard for me as the engine designer to prevent people from, intentionally or unintentionally, writing code that may be harmful in one way or another. But I will certainly do as much as I possibly can to make it more unlikely to occur, including limiting registry access if people feel it is necessary. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. On 11/21/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Which are all valid points. However, as Philip mentioned he has put restrictions in BGT to keep novis BGT developers from dumping 100 2048 KB of values into the registry So it sounds like Philip is aware of the issues and is taking steps to minimize any risk of someone over using and abusing the registry as you described. As far as removing keys I haven't looked but it stands to reason if BGT can create registry keys and set registry values that there should be wrapper functions for deleting them as well. In C++ the functions to do this is RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx. If BGT has wrapper functions for those registry functions someone can add an option to delete keys prior to the uninstallation of the game. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, I understand your decision to include it completely, though I still can't say I agree. Still if your paying customers request it, it is understandable. Kai, I did not question registry support because it was redundant. I questioned it because Microsoft's prinsipals from which they built the registry is flawed and dangerous. This could lead to unhappy users of bgt games where someone for example decided to (accidentally?) dump 100 2048 kb values into a registry that usually has a size 10mb. This would have an effect on the whole operating system of the user. There is also no way
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Willem, True, but I was merely pointing out if it bothers you that much you could access the information about how this or that script accesses and uses your registry. I wasn't implying that everyone could would have these skills. Merely that its a possibility if someone really wants to know. The option is there. At any rate I think we've gotten to the point where we are beating the proverbial dead horse to death. Philip has added the ability to access and use the registry in BGT and right or wrong, good or bad, debating the issue isn't going to change anything. You have concerneds--that's noted--but let's not make a big issue out of something that may or may not be a big issue in the long run. All we can do is wait and see. On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I don't think you can expect users with little computer knoledge to inspect a bgt script for entries that are made to the registry or even use a registry editor or cleaner. Also I'm not currently in the habbit of reading the source of every bgt game I try. It would simply take too much time. I guess a delete created registry keys item in the menu could solve the problem of not having an installer, but a menu item like this cannot be enforced by bgt, so not every scripter will make one. On 11/22/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Willem, Yes, I know all that. I wasn't talking about a third-party installer, but talking about adding the ability to remove and delete keys from the game script itself. I haven't checked over the new docs for BGT 1.1 but I'm guessing Philip should have some functions in BGT similar to RegDeleteKeyEx and RegDeleteValueEx to remove keys from the registry as needed. If so there could be an option in the game's settings menu to delete registry keys/values. In other words clean up after itself before you delete the script. Make sense? So in a nutshell if the script can clean up for itself its not totally reliant on a third-party installer to remove registry keys their script creates. Any programming language or API I've ever used could both create and delete registry entries it uses. It is merely up to the developer to add this extra functionality to his/her game script to clean up after itself if a third-party installer isn't being used. I'd advise Philip to recommend the use of a feature like that to make it easier for gamers to insure no registry keys and stray values are left behind when deleting the BGT script in question. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi thomas. Many games are just scripts you run, so there is no installer or uninstaller. While I'm not sure if there is a limmit on how many keys a game may create, not having one is dangerous. Just imagine a program going into an infinite loop while writing values to the registry on each iteration. This can happen by writing while instead of if. It would be totally reliant on the developer to provide an installer that knows how to remove every key their bgt script created, where as a settings file harms noone even if it is a few MB. The registry is something that needs to be used with lots of care, even though it is easy to do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
same here they killing me i keep dying and loosing all my stuff. The other game was hard and this one is harder i only started playing saturday. Can we just loose some of the ammo and keep hour weapons. Maybe we could save another way love the game but my head hurts. Trying to get out the safe zone On 11/21/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: Actually you aren't supposed to lose any reputation or experience when you die, but a bug is causing most people to lose it when they do. I'm also thinking of adding more loot to the map, but I haven't had time to code for pretty much the entire day. From what I've gathered so far, 100 percent rep loss on death is rather harsh, as is losing your experience. I'd suggest follow the old mud method and lose a proportion, either that or have a reputation bank in the safe zone (which is a litle silly but might solve the problem). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] hello
hi. its good to get a newby on here. I am known on the audiogames forum as crashmaster. you should join the forum at forum.audiogames.net. Bgt is the toolkit for games its an engine made by blastbay at www.blastbay.com If all you want to do is make games then this should cover you. It costs 35 or so to compile free games and a bit more to licence 1 or more games depending on what you want. Running games from source is always free and a lot of us use that system. Then there is autoit, you can't really make anything bar simple games with that but its a basic scripting language. Then you have python which is also good though I don't know much about doing that. Then there are things like c sharp and c++ visualbasic dotnet and vb6 which is quite old. If all you want to do is text based games maybe stories on www.kaldobsky.com/audiogames there is dark grew which I have not bothered with fully yet but still it exists. Thats most of the main ones. There is the quenton c playroom but I forget the url for that. Now www.kitchensinc.net has a load of games like monopoly football and others. Allinplay.com and www.blindadrenaline.com have some stuff to. http://www.audiogames.net and www.pcsgames.net have game lists. I think thats about everything. At 02:45 p.m. 21/11/2011 -0600, you wrote: Hello all, My name is Laurel. I am a college student in Texas and I have a yellow lab guide, female named Stockard, from Guide Dogs for the Blind. I've recently gotten in to gaming, because I'm only now discovering the good variety of accessible games out there. I have two questions for all of you. 1, I'm interested in learning the computer language necessary to write a game. I study French and Russian, so learning codes and such is not hard for me. Would anybody be willing to kind of menter me and help me sort of learn how to get started? I'm not even sure which programs I can use that are compatible with my JAWS screen reader. 2, My favorite game in the world is Monopoly. I have the RS Games version of this. If any of y'all know where I can get other versions of this, please let me know! I also play cyber nations, which is a text based internet browser game. www.cybernations.net. My favorite games are like monopoly, risk, any kind of battle/war game, and I love text based games too. Especially like nation building games and empire games. What are some of the games, free or paid, that you all would recommend? I also love sports, but I've never found an accessible sports game like football, so if y'all know of any, let me know!! If you would be willing maybe to menter me and teach me some about computer language and game writing, please email me privately. Thanks all! Have a great day! Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my thoughts on the new version of swamp.
Well the fact is that there are to many zombies at once. My shots hardly if at all hit, my axe does, and I find that there are less items, guns etc no guns bar safezone really and I have never got that many things. The system was ok before it just was you had to much amo but if you put the zombie count up maybe that would work. All the zombies don't make noise unless they see you. The major issue with 1.1b was that there were not enough zombies you could walk round the map land not encounter hardly a zombie. I also have got stuck in buildings before can't find ways out, etc. At 09:05 a.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: I do plan to watch things and make adjustments to the difficulty, but I'm reluctant to do that until I've given people a chance to get used to the changes. When the game first added multiplayer I was flooded with emails about the game being too hard. Those slowly died down and soon I was flooded with emails saying it was too easy and people were starting to get bored. I think this could end up being the same type of situation where people just need to get used to it. I am willing to change it though, when the time is right. same here it seems to hard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Philip, I agree. A lot comes down to trust. I can't help but feel like this entire situation has been blown way out of proportion. If someone is that concerned a BGT script or a game written in BGT will blow up their registry don't install it. Its that simple. As for the issue of 100 values I'd personally limit it to 50. Anything more than 50 values for any kind of program is overkill, and should be serialized and written to a file. That's the one thing I do agree with Willem on that we should restrict the amount of values a BGT game developer could potentially use by sticking to recommended standards. Using 200 KB of space just seems like overkill to me and 100 KB is plenty. Cheers! On 11/21/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Willem, I have now added this limitation. A user cannot write more than 100 values to the registry for a given product, and each of these values can be no larger than 2048 bytes. I think this is all I can do in terms of precautions. The rest just comes down to whether you trust a particular script writer's competence enough to run his or her code. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp reflections.
aah I was wandering why I couldn't hit the zombies even if they were right in front of my mug. At 03:45 p.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: Once I post the next update it will include the fix for the gun range bug. Once fixed, if you can hear the zombies, odd are your gun can reach them. Currently the bug is causing the guns to have drastically shorter ranges than they are supposed to have. yeah, i have to say, its very hard to tell what is 20 squares, and whats 50. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
well now we have more zombies just put the loot to what it was before. At 03:38 p.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: Actually you aren't supposed to lose any reputation or experience when you die, but a bug is causing most people to lose it when they do. I'm also thinking of adding more loot to the map, but I haven't had time to code for pretty much the entire day. From what I've gathered so far, 100 percent rep loss on death is rather harsh, as is losing your experience. I'd suggest follow the old mud method and lose a proportion, either that or have a reputation bank in the safe zone (which is a litle silly but might solve the problem). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp voice-shadow
yeah shaddow sounds real good. At 03:47 p.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: Whoever did shadow, lol, great voice for this- it's probably my favorite next to my own! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp---extreme shortage on ammo
please do On 11/21/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well now we have more zombies just put the loot to what it was before. At 03:38 p.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: Actually you aren't supposed to lose any reputation or experience when you die, but a bug is causing most people to lose it when they do. I'm also thinking of adding more loot to the map, but I haven't had time to code for pretty much the entire day. From what I've gathered so far, 100 percent rep loss on death is rather harsh, as is losing your experience. I'd suggest follow the old mud method and lose a proportion, either that or have a reputation bank in the safe zone (which is a litle silly but might solve the problem). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] More BGT news
Hi Chris, That's an over technical explanation, but that's basically it in a nutshell. Serialization is simply taking a group of variables such as a class object, converting it to a binary stream, and then writing that binary stream to a data file. Deserialization is the process of taking a saved binary stream and reconstructing the status of objects and variables to the exact state they were in when they were serialized and saved. HTH On 11/21/11, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote: I'm gathering that serialization in this context is the conversion of a state vector into an ordered series of values that can be reconstructed into that state vector at will? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Steady the butcher in zombie land
hmmm now its to much the other way. The reason we were probably not running out was there were not enough monsters. Now I don't know. I amost feel like dropping back to 1.1 At 08:30 a.m. 21/11/2011 -0800, you wrote: Well the new update should hopefully help solve the problem where everyone had everything they needed. I've made it a bit harder now. When it comes to your multiplayer comments, those are exactly the kinds of things I wanted to solve with Castaways and Swamp. With the centralized server people don't need to keep track of IP numbers, and the server is coded in a way that allows even very slow connections to use it. While it certainly isn't perfect, it seems to be doing what I intended. I havn't played swamp for a bit but thats mainly because there is now little challenge after I mastered multiplayerthough I think this is on the todo list. Right now for example we get to much ammo, etc. Its almost garenteed that we will get more than enough of anything, and everything. In a short time but then this is still a concept in progress and honestly playing this online thing is real good. I previously didn't bother with online play because of really bad things going on, from the fact you had to know everyone's ip on some games to bad things happening with my connection. It maybe have been that I have had a crappy connection which I have resolved somewhat but it always seemed that I was dropped off. And then again I have never been an online junky. Eg I used to play muds, core exiles and things. I found unless I devoted part of my day to ce or whatever the rest was I would have to put time asside for the game. At 08:29 p.m. 20/11/2011 +0800, you wrote: --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
