Re: Did Y'all know ...
Oops ... wrong URL: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ On 11/25/2010 2:06 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I just discovered that Ned Bunnell has a photo blog at Posterous. I thought I'd pass along the info in the event anyone was unaware because, as the late, great Johnny Carson would say, I did not know that. Also, I didn't see any of the other Posterous users on the list subscribed to him. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Did Y'all know ...
Sigh ... http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/ On 11/25/2010 2:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Oops ... wrong URL: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ On 11/25/2010 2:06 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I just discovered that Ned Bunnell has a photo blog at Posterous. I thought I'd pass along the info in the event anyone was unaware because, as the late, great Johnny Carson would say, I did not know that. Also, I didn't see any of the other Posterous users on the list subscribed to him. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Did Y'all know ...
Ah, OK! Must've been while I was out of town and missed a lot of the goings-on on the list. Apologies for the redundancy, and the fact that it took three attempts to tell everyone what they already knew. :-\ -- Walt On 11/25/2010 2:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 25, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Sigh ... http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/ Yes, that's the blog where he mentioned chatting with Miserere a couple of weeks back. On 11/25/2010 2:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Oops ... wrong URL: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ On 11/25/2010 2:06 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I just discovered that Ned Bunnell has a photo blog at Posterous. I thought I'd pass along the info in the event anyone was unaware because, as the late, great Johnny Carson would say, I did not know that. Also, I didn't see any of the other Posterous users on the list subscribed to him. http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Did Y'all know ...
Thanks, Darren. I feel 33% less moronic now. ;-) On 11/25/2010 5:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Walter, Their comments were regarding the blogspot blog that you first (twice) erroneously linked to. Bunnell's Posterous blog, on the other hand, has never been noted here before (I don't believe) so thanks for passing THAT link along also. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the advantage of DNG?
Well, y'all finally shamed me into shooting in DNG. Up until now, I've been shooting almost exclusively in JPG. The few raw shots I have taken were throw-away shots I simply discarded out of hand. But, tonight, I decided to check try out the DNG + JPG function while taking shots of the family Thanksgiving feast. You see, quite a few of the reviews I read before buying my K-x lauded its jpeg engine, stating that you don't really give up much at all by using it instead of RAW. So, in the interest of conserving relatively scarce storage space and computer resources, I never really bothered. Well, I'm here to say -- and feel free to pass this along to anyone who ever wrote a review of the K-x making that claim -- that they're huge liars (I'm looking at YOU dpreview!). I'm quite simply astonished at the difference, and kicking myself over the fact that it took me over 7000 clicks to realize it. Of those 7000 shots, I shudder to think how many were deleted that could have easily been salvaged. Ah, well ... live and learn. But, damn ... so many shots. (sob) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Did Y'all know ...
Tell me about it. Three times. On 11/25/2010 6:07 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: That's the best I can hope for most days. -Original Message- From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:54:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Did Y'all know ... Thanks, Darren. I feel 33% less moronic now. ;-) On 11/25/2010 5:27 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Walter, Their comments were regarding the blogspot blog that you first (twice) erroneously linked to. Bunnell's Posterous blog, on the other hand, has never been noted here before (I don't believe) so thanks for passing THAT link along also. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Did Y'all know ...
Ha! That reminds me of a time when my then-girlfriend called me on her cell while she was at the store. She'd told me where she was, and what she was looking for. A moment or two later, she says, Hold on just a sec ... 'Excuse me, could you tell me how much this is? OK, thank you! Before she could say anything else, I asked her, Did you just ask a guy for a price at the dollar store? Luckily, she had a great sense of humor, and still emails me about it to this day. On 11/25/2010 9:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pizza_hut.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I finally have a comorant pic for the list!!
He's pinin' for the fjord. -- Walt On 11/24/2010 2:27 AM, d...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:44 +1000, Tanya Lovetanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: So, I returned last night from a whirlwind trip to Sydney where in 6 days, I completed 2 x commercial shoots, taught 2 x workshops, and photographed 9 portrait sessions, with a total of almost 4000 frames captured, I am well, erm, shattered! I am home for 7 days, and then off again, this time to Perth, for 6 days and a very similar schedule to the one above. Wanted to show you all something though! I finally feel like a fully-fledged PDML member, having photographed my very first Cormorant during my Sydney trip. It is really quite different from the kinds of shots you guys usually post. *grins* Hope you enjoy it! Hehehe. http://www.lovebytes.com.au/files/cormorantlr.jpg Yes, well, that is definitely an ex-cormorant. Beautiful plumage, though Cheers Brian He's not dead, he's just resting... Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the advantage of DNG?
I keep a couple sets of NiMH -- Sanyo Eneloops and Energizers for my K-x, and they both seem to hold up pretty well. But, if it's going to be a situation where I know I'm going to need to take a LOT of photos, but not sure how many, I get the Energizer Ultimate Lithiums if I feel like I can spare the few bucks at the moment. They really do last a long time -- longer than I ever would've believed, actually. I don't know if anyone makes a rechargeable AA lithium with that kind of life. I've never seen them in Walmart. But, if they do, I'll save up the money to get a set if I have to. I have seen some Westinghouse rechargeable lithium AA's, but the voltage output rating listed on the package makes me afraid they'll damage my camera. -- Walt On 11/24/2010 11:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: You should invest in a good set of rechargeable NiHMs or buy disposable Lithiums, . When I was using the *ist-D and Ds exclusively I would wear out a package of 12 of the rechargeable, recharging them about once a week, in about a year and a half. They probably would have lasted longer if I had a better charger, but at $24.00 for a package of 12 it didn't seem to to be an onerous cost. Now that I have a K20D the *ist-Ds is just a backup and/or carry to sketchy places camera. I bought a package of 12 disposable energizer Lithium batteries. They get between 600 to 800 shots in constant use and the package has lasted about a year and 1/2 so far with occasional use, though I'm on the last set of four. On 11/24/2010 10:32 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 24, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Eric, once you invested your money, digital is free. You can shoot as much as you please and learn simply by trial and error. Given instant feedback your learning curve may be relatively short. Thanks, Boris. You forgot about batteries. [On my camera at least alkalines last a ridiculously short time.] That said, trial and error on digital instructs more rapidly, and may just instruct more. I'm glad I made the switch. I don't think it would make sense to shy away from LR3 or any other RAW processing software at this point. You can simply sit down in front of the computer and learn it by trial and error. I'm not shying away from LR3, and I've being doing it largely the way you say -- just trying things. And though I have a long way to go, it's working. I was shying away from raw -- till last night. I'm over that now. The web is full of LR guides and other material that is very easy to google out. But the more you actually try things, the more fun you have, the more you learn in the process and the more satisfaction you get from your hobby. That seems to be the way it's headed. For the moment I'm relying on the videos at Adobe and the LR3 help pages for guidance. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looks like the FA 43mm is going of for repair.
Damn, indeed. Sorry to hear that. Another reason lens prices depress the hell out of me. -- Walt On 11/24/2010 12:45 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 11/24/2010 1:40 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Seems the inability of the FA 43 not being able to achieve focus lock at middle distances was a harbinger of doom. The focus is jammed solid. Damn. It's worse that I thought, looks like the aperture is jammed solid too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 204 - GDG
I used to have all manner of nettling little problems like that, which all started suddenly one day when I installed a Flash update. I just lived with it for a while, thinking it was a bug that would eventually be addressed in a later release. Then, those problems just as suddenly disappeared when I updated the drivers for my video card, which were WAY out of date. Coincidence? Perhaps. -- Walt On 11/24/2010 9:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Thanks Bruce! Occasionally, someone says they can't see the lightbox. I never get any specifics and it's easy enough to provide a link to the regular page, so ... :-) On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 10-11-24 9:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Taken earlier today ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5205218297/lightbox/ Out for lunch for an excellent Chinese lunch on this chill but sunny day, I spied a dragon right around the corner from the restaurant and couldn't help but capture him. (If your browser has problems with the lightbox view, here's the standard flickr.com page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5205218297/ ) Thanks for looking, comments appreciated. Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi Photography PO Box 60215 Sunnyvale, CA 94088-0215 USA godf...@gdgphoto.com www.gdgphoto.com Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it! Very nice, Godfrey. I really like the colour and texture in this. BTW: I wasn't aware that any browsers have trouble with the Flickr lightbox view. Have you gotten feedback about issues with that? -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back Again
Well, thankfully, Congress is set to repeal the Law of Unintended Consequences when they reconvene, and this will all be addressed in short order. -- Walt On 11/24/2010 8:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walter Gilbert Great news about the surgery, sorry to hear about the food. Could be that's their way of discouraging lengthy hospital stays and discharge appeals. It doesn't work. I should have been out on Friday, and I would have been if I hadn't gotten sicker at every meal. I wanted to get out of there on Friday. I think it's just a well meaning, misguided cost-cutting measure. The contractor bid too low and is cutting way too many quality corners struggling to make a go of the contract. Contract meals don't have to be so ghastly. But what the VA saved with the right hand, they more than lost with the left. Because it didn't discourage me from lengthening my stay. It impeded me getting the hell out of there. Figure under the old system it might have cost them $15 per day for my meals. Instead they're only spending $10 a day ... or $7.50. The downside of those savings is I couldn't choke down the food. What little I did manage to choke down wouldn't stay down. And I couldn't be discharged until I could eat. It actually made me sicker and I stayed two additional days before I could be discharged. Figure it generously at $500 a day to keep me in the hospital (probably cost the VA closer to $1000 every day I was in there). They saved $15 on food for Thursday and Friday. Which they turned around and spent anyway on food because I was there Saturday and Sunday. *PLUS* it cost another $1000 for the two additional days I stayed in the hospital because the food made me so sick they couldn't discharge me. And when I did get out of there on Sunday I was sicker than I should have been because I'd had no effective nutrition for 6 days. Nothing but clear liquids after midnight Monday = Tuesday and nothing that managed to stay down longer than a minute Thursday through Sunday. I did manage to eat something, I think a cup of clear broth, in SICU on Wednesday night and got a nibble of egg a cup of coffee on Thursday morning. It wasn't until I went into the general surgical ward Thursday evening that my problems with the food began. Must have missed lunch Thursday in transit somewhere. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back Again
Great news about the surgery, sorry to hear about the food. Could be that's their way of discouraging lengthy hospital stays and discharge appeals. But, hey ... even a crappy Thanksgiving will seem like a relative cornucopia of epicurean treasures after all that. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/23/2010 7:53 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Made it successfully through my surgery and have recovered enough to be on my own again. I'm not experiencing any real pain post-op, and just a low level irritation from the catheter. That's supposed to come out about a week from now, so I guess I'll just have to deal with it until then. The people at the VA Hospital in Durham, NC were wonderful. The only complaint I have is with the food and I don't blame the Durham VAMC for that. They closed down the hospital kitchen a couple of years back and the food is out-sourced to some company up in Virginia. Cooked twice a week, trucked in held in storage until heated to serve to the patients. It was the most god-awful tasting and smelling crap I have ever encountered, including airline food. Although, I think it's the same catering company. Anyway, the taste and smell was so bad I'd start vomiting every time I tried to eat. I finally managed to choke down a few tiny bites and figured out to hang on to the juice pack crackers. I'd make it a part of the contract for this sort of outsourced catering that the corporate executives and board board of directors of the company doing the catering be required to eat their every meal from the menus they provide to the VA. Bet the quality would improve drastically. PDQ! Anyway, I'm up and around and more or less mobile and on the way back to normal. Gonna close this right now, gotta go chase some kids off my lawn. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back Again
If only I could afford to be an equipment snob. But, I'm working toward it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/23/2010 9:56 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: But, hey ... even a crappy Thanksgiving will seem like a relative cornucopia of epicurean treasures after all that. That reminds me, one Thanksgiving I was in the hospital recovering from surgery. My surgeon came in on rounds to check on me, and I asked her if it was her job to carve the turkey. She said, No, I complain too much about the quality of the knives. I guess we're all equipment snobs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Hear! Hear! I've got integrity out the wazoo. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 5:14 PM, Bob W wrote: I refuse to compromise my artistic integrity by making money out of photography... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
'Round here, they'd just assume I was drunk and give me a ride home. It's a vicious cycle. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a house, and the owner shoots you. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8 EX DG ASP - about $400 2. PENTAX-DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 ED AL[IF]SDM - about $1400 3. Pentax Lens 12-24mm f/4 ED AL IF DA - about $1269 4. Sigma Lens 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM - about $927 Obviously the 20-40 would be a whole lot less in terms of $$ and you usually get what you pay for, but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone has any experience with it? I'm fairly certain that I am set on #2, but interested to here all of your feedback first... Tan.x. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au www.facebook.com/LoveBytesPhoto www.loveandsoul.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: critter
I love this shot! I've been hoping to get some snake photos in the wild for quite some time now, but simply haven't seen any. I did manage to get a shot of a boa constrictor recently, at a wildlife refuge. But, it's nowhere near as interesting to look at as your shot here, bland colors and light. :-\ Thanks for posting! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 11:16 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: in the interest of full disclousre... it is a snake so if you are phobic about them don't look... I find them all very good lookin This is from a couple of years ago... I phototed one like it in the Toronto Zoo last month but this was a better capture. http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/Critters/14740904_qL7Eb/1/1098567117_PL92o/Large ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Thanks, Ted. I agree with you wholeheartedly. And, that's why I have this little twinge of guilt for not using a tripod more often. I know it ends up producing better photos, and forces you to be more deliberative in your composition. And, yet ... when I shoot off a tripod, you might as well be telling a kid he has to brush his teeth before he can watch his favorite TV show. It's something I really need to work more on. I actually used one a whole lot more when I shot with my old Olympus, since I had to wait so long for the shot to be written to the media card. But, ever since I've had my K-x, it's like I can't be bothered. I'm just going to have to make more of an effort to use it more often. I think I'm a hand-held shooter by temperament, but that I'm missing out on some opportunities for better shots by not exercising more patience. Thanks again, Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 8:40 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote: A tripod forces you to slow down, compose more carefully, and pay more attention to you exposure as well as improving overall image sharpness. This is a shooting style that takes effort to adopt but is worth it in the long run. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Thanks, Boris. I completely agree with your view that these are all individual traits in the photographer. I just can't help wondering if I'm limiting myself by leaning too much on what I'm inclined to do with the camera, instead of making more of an effort to break away from my habits. In a way, it's a chicken vs. egg kind of thing: Do I not use a tripod or bracket my shots because that's my style, or is that my style because I'm too lazy to use a tripod and bracket my shots? It's a conundrum. I will say that I love the mobility that comes from not carrying a tripod and a bunch of gear. It's just that, when I look at Ted's photo of that church in Picher, Oklahoma compared to mine, I can't help feeling like I really half-assed the shot, and that with more deliberation, many of the shots I took could have been better, and I'd have had fewer throw-aways at the end. In the end, it's all part of a self-education process, I suppose. It's just a matter of learning that, while a lot of the photography I do simply isn't conducive to a more deliberative technique, it doesn't necessarily follow that I don't need to learn to be more deliberative. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 9:41 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/22/2010 3:33 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: So, I was just curious as to the thoughts of the folks on the list as to how much my approach would be considered spray and pray by more seasoned photographers, and how much it would benefit if it were less so. Thanks for any input anyone has to offer. Stochastics aside, I think it is really more of an individual trait of a photographer, than anything else. The methods or practices are well known (and in advance too): * Tripod * Bracketing * Chimping (well, yes, that's a practice, just like a deliberate choice not to chimp) * etc Personally, my approach is different: * I realize that no matter how hard I try, only few shots come out (*). * I try to shoot relatively few tries as I first try to think how the final image would look like. But this would be simply the reflection of my character... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Believe me, I don't think you're being patronizing in the least, Boris. In fact, I really appreciate your taking the time to help me address my concerns. Questions like these are stifling for me, and the more help and input I have in hashing them out, the more I can improve. And, the simple fact of the matter is, I love photography -- every moment I spend with my camera. And, to the extent that asking questions makes me better at what I love to do, getting answers to those questions from people who've been doing it a lot longer than I have is never to be seen as being patronized. So, thank you. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 10:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/22/2010 6:41 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Boris. I completely agree with your view that these are all individual traits in the photographer. I just can't help wondering if I'm limiting myself by leaning too much on what I'm inclined to do with the camera, instead of making more of an effort to break away from my habits. In a way, it's a chicken vs. egg kind of thing: Do I not use a tripod or bracket my shots because that's my style, or is that my style because I'm too lazy to use a tripod and bracket my shots? It's a conundrum. I will say that I love the mobility that comes from not carrying a tripod and a bunch of gear. It's just that, when I look at Ted's photo of that church in Picher, Oklahoma compared to mine, I can't help feeling like I really half-assed the shot, and that with more deliberation, many of the shots I took could have been better, and I'd have had fewer throw-aways at the end. In the end, it's all part of a self-education process, I suppose. It's just a matter of learning that, while a lot of the photography I do simply isn't conducive to a more deliberative technique, it doesn't necessarily follow that I don't need to learn to be more deliberative. -- Walt Well, here is my view... There is no (or there is, but in reality very little) connection between half-assing the shot and using bracketing and tripod. As a part of good photography /craftsmanship/ we are supposed to be able to recognize whichever tool is best suited to whatever task. Thence, would come a choice - to take a shot handheld 'cause: I'm lazy, I forgot tripod at home, etc or to bring out the tools, set them up and do what you think is needed. I also (personally) have come to realize that as time progresses my own habits change. So, in a sense both you and I are on the /way/ (like in Japanese 'do' or Chinese 'tao'). The other side of this coin is that rather often the photo opportunity will present itself only once. So we better be ready. And then of course the third side of the same coin is that SMC DFA* 5-500/1.2 Limited SDM WR hasn't been constructed yet, as well as a number of other things that might not let us miss those opportunities. If I sound patronizing, I apologize in advance. It is not my intent. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?
As an audiophile of somewhat limited means, my first purchase was a Denon integrated amplifier -- PMA-950 A/V, which lasted nearly 20 years. I loved it so much, I've bought Denon equipment almost exclusively ever since. Granted, I've had to scrimp and save to do so, but in my experience, it's a nice, happy medium between mass market Kenwood, Pioneer, JVC equipment (which is still nice, don't get me wrong) and the exotic stuff that only Hasselblad owners can afford. But, I'm sure you'll find audio equipment to be much like photographic equipment -- very much a brand-loyalty item. Denon just suits my personal taste, and has a fairly broad range of offerings with regard to price range. Onkyo, Harman-Kardon, and Yamaha also make really nice stuff as well. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 12:30 PM, John Celio wrote: I know there are a lot of tech-heads here, so I hope y'all don't mind my asking such an off-topic question. Please feel free to reply off-list. I'm looking for a basic home theater setup for use with my Xbox and DVD player. My TV is a big ol' CRT, which I don't expect to be able to upgrade for some time (unless I find some incredible deals on 40 LCDs this December), but I'd really like better sound than the built-in speakers. The thing is, I know absolutely nothing about home theater equipment and don't know where to start. What are good brands? What are important specs to look at? Are there good online guides you can recommend for this sort of info? Any sound advice (pun intended) would be appreciated. Thanks, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Thanks, Ken. I plan to do just that, particularly on any landscape or architecture shots in the near future. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 12:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote: You should force yourself to try using the tripod for a period of time and see if it does in fact improve your photography. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ducks on the Wing
I meant to comment on this shot earlier, but somehow, I must have gotten distracted. Anyway -- love the shot! I live in the heart of duck hunting country (right on the Mississippi flyway) and have never had a chance to get a shot like that. I even have a close friend who is part-owner of a duck hunting lodge. Still ... no dice. :-( -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/20/2010 7:23 AM, frank theriault wrote: Not technically great, I like it none the less: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/10/ducks-on-wing.html And I hope you do, too. I'm always amazed to see that flying birds (waterfowl, at least) seem to always synchronize their flapping wings. Cool. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: For Baseball Fans
In the modern game, they'd have probably kept him in a pitching rotation, unfortunately. He was a southpaw, after all. :-\ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 2:07 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's all about Babe Ruth. Very few American sports figures have so towered in their sport. Hence the American adjective Ruthian. It may be true that he literally saved baseball. After the Black Sox scandal attendance dropped around the majors. Ruth was the superstar that turned that around and brought fans back to the parks again. And why not? He single-handedly changed the way the game was played. Until he came along home runs were not a part of the game - it was thought to be better to keep the ball in the park, to keep rallies going, to continue to have base runners. Turned out, however, that the fans ~loved~ home runs! His finest year is thought by many to have been 1920, when he hit 54 home runs, with a .376 batting average. He hit more home runs than any other ~team~ in the league that year, except the Phillies who hit (as a team) 64 homers. And he did all that while drinking and eating to excess, whoring around and playing many games hung over. Imagine if he'd had modern training techniques available to him? Hard to know... cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Home Theater Advice?
Sounds like my PC audio set-up, which is a used Denon AVR-900 from eBay, with a Bose Acoustimass 5 LFE I picked up at a warehouse clearance for $50 without the satellite speakers -- in place of which, I use a set of Sony SS-TS503's from Overstock. Works pretty well for computer audio, and cost less than $200 all-told. Thrift: It's a good thing. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 2:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My home theater audio system is a Denon DRA-435 receiver I picked up at the local Salvation Army Thrift Store last month for $40 and a Bose 3E satellite speaker system I bought in 1991 for $600. Sound quality meets my needs for 'audiophile' quality: it works well for listening to music, watching movies and videos with the Sony flat panel television and AppleTV or CD/DVD player. A friend of mine is a true audiophile. He's been collecting the greatest recordings he can find of his favorite operas, music and movies for years. But he can't decide on what equipment is the best, can't afford the expensive stuff, so mostly he just dusts his collection occasionally and fantasizes how nice it will sound when he finally decides what equipment to buy. ...Equipment often gets in the way of Photography applies broadly. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Thanks for the input! I think I may have come up with the best option -- a sort of reverse monopod. A 1/4 bolt through a length of lightweight chain. Run the bolt through one end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of the bolt) -- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain and pull it tight while shooting. It'll provide a fair amount of stability, and when not being used, can be carried in a pocket. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagTli...@thrane.name wrote: I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find out what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then start photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only one. No tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the flexibility and slows down the reactions. I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in good light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Great idea! Thanks, Bob! A little rubberized/silicone coating on the Vise-Grips jaws would make them pretty versatile, too. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 3:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip' pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them. You then put a small ball head on the bolt and the Vise-Grip onto anything. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the input! I think I may have come up with the best option -- a sort of reverse monopod. A 1/4 bolt through a length of lightweight chain. Run the bolt through one end of the chain (making sure the link is smaller than the head of the bolt) -- screw into the camera, step on the other end of the chain and pull it tight while shooting. It'll provide a fair amount of stability, and when not being used, can be carried in a pocket. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/22/2010 3:05 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 23 November 2010 07:16, DagTli...@thrane.namewrote: I usually start by walk around or looking at the subject, trying to find out what caught my interest, visualizing how the picture could be, and then start photographing. Even then I tend to take few pictures, sometimes only one. No tripod, even when using large format, because it removes the flexibility and slows down the reactions. I realised many years ago though inspection of my slides at high mag that tripods apart from often reducing the amount of often useful experimentation in composition aren't the be all and end all to obtain optimal sharpness either, especially when working with WA lenses in good light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
On 11/22/2010 9:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote: --- On Mon, 11/22/10, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Other alternative is a 'Vise-Grip' pliers with a bolt or two braised onto them. Now you're cookin'... Agreed. A real-world baste solution if I ever saw one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - birdy
After re-consulting Peterson's, I think you're right. Though, it looks like it might be a house finch, due to the less contrasting markings around the eye, and more squared-off tail feathers. Both, very similar to a sparrow. I could never be an ornithologist. Aside from the difficulty in discerning between species, on television, they all seem to wear funny hats. -- Walt On 11/21/2010 12:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I think it's a finch... female purple finch Im guessin Nice capture, Paul, so hard to get those little fellas ann On 11/20/2010 7:47 PM, paul stenquist wrote: That much I'm sure of. I think it's some kind of sparrow. It was only a wee bit bigger than the chickadees. In any case, I'm pleased in that the A400/5.6 doesn't seem to fringe as much with the K5 as it did with the other Pentax DSLRs. Or maybe I just got lucky. Not enough samples to say for sure. K-5, A 400/5.6, ISO 1250, f5.6, 1/800th, AF 540 flash with Xtender. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11980010size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Some Kinda Warbler?
Hi all, The sudden surge of bird photos reminded me of this one. It's a shot I took a couple of weeks after I first got my K-x. There's nothing particularly special about the shot, though the bird was pretty cool in that it seemed intent on being photographed. As I crept down the dusty gravel road on a nearby wildlife refuge, the little guy followed me on the roadside, and didn't seem the slightest bit disturbed by my presence, or the fact that I was pointing a camera at him. The best I've been able to come up with for an identification from my trusty Peterson's guide is that it's some manner of warbler -- possibly a Nashville warbler -- though, it only seems to match the fall warblers, and it was taken in mid-May. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5195113176/ K-x, 50-200, f/5.6, ISO 1600, Action mode Any ideas? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Some Kinda Warbler?
Thanks, Paul. Looks like a pretty good call to me. Maybe a female black-backed lesser goldfinch. I hadn't thought of that, since the only goldfinches I've seen around here are the more boldly marked ones. But, again, turning to the ol' Peterson's, I think you may be right. -- Walt On 11/21/2010 8:49 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Nice shot. I think it's a goldfinch with a lot of yellow, which is sometimes the case in the spring. I believe warblers have a straight, conical beak. This one appears to be curved. Christian Skofteland would know. But he doesn't come around here much any more. Paul On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, The sudden surge of bird photos reminded me of this one. It's a shot I took a couple of weeks after I first got my K-x. There's nothing particularly special about the shot, though the bird was pretty cool in that it seemed intent on being photographed. As I crept down the dusty gravel road on a nearby wildlife refuge, the little guy followed me on the roadside, and didn't seem the slightest bit disturbed by my presence, or the fact that I was pointing a camera at him. The best I've been able to come up with for an identification from my trusty Peterson's guide is that it's some manner of warbler -- possibly a Nashville warbler -- though, it only seems to match the fall warblers, and it was taken in mid-May. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5195113176/ K-x, 50-200, f/5.6, ISO 1600, Action mode Any ideas? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Lights of the Ozarks 2010
Wow, Ted! You got some really nice shots there. On 11/21/2010 2:23 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Diane and I went up to the square here in Fayetteville, and photographed the annual Lights of the Ozarks display the city does every year. Basic photo info: K 7, handheld mostly except one shot using a trash bin for support. mostly 800 iso, DA 21mm mostly, DA 40mm for two shots. Didn't use the tripod because I wanted the spontaneity of shooting handheld. http://beilbyfinearts.blogspot.com/2010/11/lights-of-ozarks-2010.html Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Consumer Reports
I have to say, but for the introduction of the K-r so shortly thereafter, since I bought my K-x, I've never felt the slightest twinge of buyer's remorse. And, I most certainly have never asked myself, Why didn't I go with the Canon? -- Walt On 11/21/2010 6:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I was looking at the Consumer Reports Buying Guide for 2011 for a purpose unrelated to photography. I looked at the digital camera ratings, just for fun. The K-7 is the fifth rated SLR, about equal with the D300S, which costs almost twice as much. The K-x was one of three SLRs rated as a CR Best Buy. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Stochastic photography
Hi all, For the past couple of days, I seem to keep encountering references to stochastic photography -- or spray and pray if you will, and it's piqued my interest. It's not that I'm considering actively pursuing the practice so much as I wonder how much my current style (method?) could actually be considered stochastic. Having never worked in the vicinity of another photographer before, my days out shooting with Ted Beilby were, as I said, educational. We took nearly diametrically opposed approaches. Clearly, Ted came out with better quality shots than I did. He was much more methodical and exacting and produce much more highly textured images than I did. At the same time, I came out with some images that, while not as polished as Ted's, did have some redeeming value -- at least I thought they did. I was so arrested by the sheer amount of potential subject matter that I felt I had to get as many different shots as I could in order to get a reasonable account of my experience, so I shot hand-held, almost exclusively. Knowing that I'd have at least several hundred shots to go through at the end of my trip (also, due to a relative lack of PC processing power and memory), I stuck to shooting single exposures in jpeg. Some subjects, I chose to take three or four different shots from different perspectives and focal depths, while others I shot once or twice and moved on. And, that's typically the way I do things. A large part of the reason for that is that I simply don't trust what the camera shows me on its display to be an accurate depiction of what I'm going to see when I load it onto the computer. The same goes for my perception of any given scene at the time. I come away with rough approximation in my mind, and when I get home, I'm usually fairlyclose, but never seemingly dead-on in my expectations. And, of course, a good bit of what I do shoot simply defies staging in any practical sense. I'm not going to be able to tell a butterfly how to hold its wings, or a bird where to position itself within my frame. So, I have to make snap judgments and several attempts. To the extent that I'm able to dictate composition, I do make a fairly diligent attempt at it. But, at the same time, I don't try to control every minute detail -- essentially because the vast majority of the subjects I shoot are in an environment that simply defies control. So, I was just curious as to the thoughts of the folks on the list as to how much my approach would be considered spray and pray by more seasoned photographers, and how much it would benefit if it were less so. Thanks for any input anyone has to offer. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Ha! I wasn't familiar with Brownian Movement photography before. So, I've already learned something by asking. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 7:59 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-11-21 20:33, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, For the past couple of days, I seem to keep encountering references to stochastic photography -- I prefer to think about it as Brownian. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Duly noted. I guess my biggest concern is, based on some of the comments on some of the stories about stochastic method I've read, whether or not I'm missing out on a lot of texture by being lazy. I've seen so many images that are just so rich in detail, yet the subject matter seemed to be of a nature that demanded snap judgment. I couldn't help wondering if there were some particular method or technique I ought to be using that is suffering from my approach. In a way, it's a relief to know that, rather than being lazy, I'm just not that talented. Thanks, David. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:02 PM, David Parsons wrote: Spray and Pray really doesn't have anything to do with a Stochastic method. Besides that, 3 or 4 carefully considered shots is the antithesis of SP. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, For the past couple of days, I seem to keep encountering references to stochastic photography -- or spray and pray if you will, and it's piqued my interest. It's not that I'm considering actively pursuing the practice so much as I wonder how much my current style (method?) could actually be considered stochastic. Having never worked in the vicinity of another photographer before, my days out shooting with Ted Beilby were, as I said, educational. We took nearly diametrically opposed approaches. Clearly, Ted came out with better quality shots than I did. He was much more methodical and exacting and produce much more highly textured images than I did. At the same time, I came out with some images that, while not as polished as Ted's, did have some redeeming value -- at least I thought they did. I was so arrested by the sheer amount of potential subject matter that I felt I had to get as many different shots as I could in order to get a reasonable account of my experience, so I shot hand-held, almost exclusively. Knowing that I'd have at least several hundred shots to go through at the end of my trip (also, due to a relative lack of PC processing power and memory), I stuck to shooting single exposures in jpeg. Some subjects, I chose to take three or four different shots from different perspectives and focal depths, while others I shot once or twice and moved on. And, that's typically the way I do things. A large part of the reason for that is that I simply don't trust what the camera shows me on its display to be an accurate depiction of what I'm going to see when I load it onto the computer. The same goes for my perception of any given scene at the time. I come away with rough approximation in my mind, and when I get home, I'm usually fairlyclose, but never seemingly dead-on in my expectations. And, of course, a good bit of what I do shoot simply defies staging in any practical sense. I'm not going to be able to tell a butterfly how to hold its wings, or a bird where to position itself within my frame. So, I have to make snap judgments and several attempts. To the extent that I'm able to dictate composition, I do make a fairly diligent attempt at it. But, at the same time, I don't try to control every minute detail -- essentially because the vast majority of the subjects I shoot are in an environment that simply defies control. So, I was just curious as to the thoughts of the folks on the list as to how much my approach would be considered spray and pray by more seasoned photographers, and how much it would benefit if it were less so. Thanks for any input anyone has to offer. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Interesting. I suffer from nearly the opposite malady. Using an 8 Gig card, I seem to be overly conscious of taking extra shots. For instance, even though I keep my camera in fast drive mode , if I accidentally take more than one exposure, I invariably and reflexively say, Dammit! and immediately delete the second and/or third shot. I never even check to see how many shots I have left on a card. And, while I will spend three or four different shots on a given subject from varying perspectives, those accidental exposures always feel to me like a wasted shutter actuation. Don't ask me why. There's obviously no rational reason for it. As for metering, I still have so much to learn about it that I find it daunting. I've tried spot metering and matrix metering so far, and generally shoot in aperture priority. And, up until a couple of days ago, I've always shot with highlight correction on (unknowingly sacrificing the lower end of my ISO range in the process). So, it seems I'm going to have to do a good bit of relearning on my camera before I'll ever know which type of metering I should be using in any given situation. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:10 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: That said, spray and pray is becoming more of a norm for me. After all, when my high capacity memory card keeps telling me that I have 999 exposures left, then what the hell. But I wish that this were not the case. If the digital camera would give me a sweet spot ISO from which I had some confidence that exposure over the entire frame could be salvaged no matter what the camera chose for me, I could spend a lot more time composing and moving around, thinking more about the subject. For now, I have decided never to use spot metering on a dSLR. The area being spot measured looks great, but that doesn't mean I can salvage the blown highlights. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Well, no wonder you went over my head the first time. :-D When I read your reply, I immediately googled Brownian Photography to see what you were talking about, and it brought up several links to stock photos of brownian movement: http://is.gd/hyUfu Funny, huh? -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:36 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: I didn't know about Brownian Photography either, Walt. I was thinking about Brownian Motion (of particles in a gas). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stochastic photography
Thanks, David. That post was where I first read the reference to stochastic photography, but I didn't really have a clue as to what it meant at the time I saw it. It wasn't until today, when I stumbled across the reference in another article that I decided to read up on it a little, but hadn't gotten back around to reading this one again. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:46 PM, David Parsons wrote: Ctein, over at TOP shoots stochastically, and his latest Thurday post touched on almost exactly what you are talking about. There was a comment that 6 shots was his spray and pray amount. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/its-just-how-i-work.html On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Duly noted. I guess my biggest concern is, based on some of the comments on some of the stories about stochastic method I've read, whether or not I'm missing out on a lot of texture by being lazy. I've seen so many images that are just so rich in detail, yet the subject matter seemed to be of a nature that demanded snap judgment. I couldn't help wondering if there were some particular method or technique I ought to be using that is suffering from my approach. In a way, it's a relief to know that, rather than being lazy, I'm just not that talented. Thanks, David. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:02 PM, David Parsons wrote: Spray and Pray really doesn't have anything to do with a Stochastic method. Besides that, 3 or 4 carefully considered shots is the antithesis of SP. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, For the past couple of days, I seem to keep encountering references to stochastic photography -- or spray and pray if you will, and it's piqued my interest. It's not that I'm considering actively pursuing the practice so much as I wonder how much my current style (method?) could actually be considered stochastic. Having never worked in the vicinity of another photographer before, my days out shooting with Ted Beilby were, as I said, educational. We took nearly diametrically opposed approaches. Clearly, Ted came out with better quality shots than I did. He was much more methodical and exacting and produce much more highly textured images than I did. At the same time, I came out with some images that, while not as polished as Ted's, did have some redeeming value -- at least I thought they did. I was so arrested by the sheer amount of potential subject matter that I felt I had to get as many different shots as I could in order to get a reasonable account of my experience, so I shot hand-held, almost exclusively. Knowing that I'd have at least several hundred shots to go through at the end of my trip (also, due to a relative lack of PC processing power and memory), I stuck to shooting single exposures in jpeg. Some subjects, I chose to take three or four different shots from different perspectives and focal depths, while others I shot once or twice and moved on. And, that's typically the way I do things. A large part of the reason for that is that I simply don't trust what the camera shows me on its display to be an accurate depiction of what I'm going to see when I load it onto the computer. The same goes for my perception of any given scene at the time. I come away with rough approximation in my mind, and when I get home, I'm usually fairlyclose, but never seemingly dead-on in my expectations. And, of course, a good bit of what I do shoot simply defies staging in any practical sense. I'm not going to be able to tell a butterfly how to hold its wings, or a bird where to position itself within my frame. So, I have to make snap judgments and several attempts. To the extent that I'm able to dictate composition, I do make a fairly diligent attempt at it. But, at the same time, I don't try to control every minute detail -- essentially because the vast majority of the subjects I shoot are in an environment that simply defies control. So, I was just curious as to the thoughts of the
Re: Stochastic photography
That sort of gets at one of the reasons I delete those extra images. Part of the reason I feel like they're wasted shutter actuations is that, dumb as it may sound, the extra shots just don't feel like my shots. Keeping them feels a little like taking a shortcut, and sort of encourages a spray-and-pray ethic if you will. Of course, I gladly accept all my other happy accidents, so I guess there's no good reason not to keep the extras, just in case they turn out better than the intended ones. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/21/2010 8:51 PM, Nick David Wright wrote: I am, in general, no advocate of spraying-and-praying. In this digital age where we have instant feedback and no perceived cost to the art I think this adds up to laziness. But I urge you not to delete those extra shots. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Camera Spelling Fail
Don't remember seeing this posted to the list, so forgive me if this is old news. But, I couldn't *not* share it. http://spellingfails.com/post/1314299088/pentax-cameras-spelling-fail -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Finally did it
I have every confidence you'll find a warm (if belated) reception, Ted. It took a full six weeks-plus for all of my original submissions to be accepted and/or declined. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/20/2010 8:29 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Well, I finally did it, I signed up to the PPG and submitted some shots. Maybe will have some rejects in time to post on the next pug. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - birdy
Great shot! Looking through my Peterson's Field Guide, the closest match I could find is the juvenile Slate-colored Junco, which is indeed a sparrow. Then again, it could be any number of sparrows. I'm just going by the pretty pictures in the birdy book. -- Walt On 11/20/2010 7:47 PM, paul stenquist wrote: That much I'm sure of. I think it's some kind of sparrow. It was only a wee bit bigger than the chickadees. In any case, I'm pleased in that the A400/5.6 doesn't seem to fringe as much with the K5 as it did with the other Pentax DSLRs. Or maybe I just got lucky. Not enough samples to say for sure. K-5, A 400/5.6, ISO 1250, f5.6, 1/800th, AF 540 flash with Xtender. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11980010size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
I meant not *Sensitivity Priority* or any other. On 11/18/2010 4:39 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
Ah! I see. I thought by expanded it meant expanding the range from 200-6400 to 100-12800. In that case, I'll just turn off the expanded sensitivity, since I've yet to encounter an instance where its use was particularly desirable. Thanks! -- Walt On 11/18/2010 5:33 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:39:29PM -0600, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? I believe you've answered your own question. AFAIK, if you turn off expanded sensitivity you'll be able to use ISO 100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
Actually, when I went to change it, it appears I was right, according to the dialogue on the menu screen. On: Enables ISO sensitivity from 100 to 12800 Off: ISO sensitivity can be set from 200 to 6400 Curious, that. On 11/18/2010 5:40 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Ah! I see. I thought by expanded it meant expanding the range from 200-6400 to 100-12800. In that case, I'll just turn off the expanded sensitivity, since I've yet to encounter an instance where its use was particularly desirable. Thanks! -- Walt On 11/18/2010 5:33 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:39:29PM -0600, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? I believe you've answered your own question. AFAIK, if you turn off expanded sensitivity you'll be able to use ISO 100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
I do ... or, did, actually. Thanks, Matthew! On 11/18/2010 5:59 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Actually, when I went to change it, it appears I was right, according to the dialogue on the menu screen. Do you have d-range highlight correction on? That will sacrifice the lowest ISO setting. On: Enables ISO sensitivity from 100 to 12800 Off: ISO sensitivity can be set from 200 to 6400 Curious, that. On 11/18/2010 5:40 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Ah! I see. I thought by expanded it meant expanding the range from 200-6400 to 100-12800. In that case, I'll just turn off the expanded sensitivity, since I've yet to encounter an instance where its use was particularly desirable. Thanks! -- Walt On 11/18/2010 5:33 PM, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:39:29PM -0600, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? I believe you've answered your own question. AFAIK, if you turn off expanded sensitivity you'll be able to use ISO 100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Matthew Montgomery matt...@electricjunk.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .
I'll keep you in my thoughts in the interim, Stan. I somewhat know what you're going through, so you have my very best wishes. -- Walt On 11/18/2010 8:32 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks for the good wishes, on and off list. Surgery postponed for now, last minute family emergency and the surgeon headed home to Lebanon. So I am on hold for a week or two . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax photo gallery
Congratulations, Nick! I loved that pic when you posted it! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 6:14 AM, Nick David Wright wrote: Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Thanks, Steve. The Goddernator would have made a good title. Wish I'd thought of it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The Goddernator. Neat shot. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
It's the emptiness of the beer. :-( -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 8:52 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: There's some kind of essential sadness you've captured in that simple shot. On 11/17/2010 7:32 AM, frank theriault wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 9:53 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: I agree - redo it. It will make them twice as valuable as gifts and you won't forever regret having given a flawed gift. But, DO have someone else PFOOF the text before resubmitting! ;-) stan On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
You and my great niece. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:40 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Hey. I've been looking for that trike . . . On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.comwrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
I picked up on that. Could be I need batteries for my Sarcastoblaster and Ironichron. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:43 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
I know. Just goes to show you, anyone can take great photos ... even with a Pentax. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:47 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. Wow, Kenny! That's a great photograph! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Ablaze
Hi all, I'm submitting a few more images for the Pentax Gallery, and just wanted to get a little input on this shot, as I'm on the fence about it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5185239879/ K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 18mm), f/4, ISO 800, 1/3200, Aperture Priority (I'd been taking pictures of family in a fairly dim room before I went out for my stroll and neglected to adjust for conditions outside. Hence the high ISO.) I like it as an image on its own merits, but in a gallery full of foliage photos, I just don't know if it would get my attention. So, any input -- thumbs-up-or-down -- would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Godfrey's Contraption
Thanks, Christine! I *tried* to do him justice, but in the end, all imitations are pale. :-) -- Walt On 11/17/2010 7:55 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Walt: A well executed homage to our Godfrey! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. I did the best I could with the limited resources at hand. :-) -- Walt On 11/17/2010 12:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2010 23:20, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. This is a hilarious post, guys. I agree. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
I suspect a lot of PDML ears were burning as we were looking through Ted's yearbooks. On 11/17/2010 12:08 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/17/2010 6:20 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Corollary: when two or more PDMLers meet, they will always mention the third or (more + 1)'th PDMLer who is not present at the moment. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Of course, I would never come up with an overwrought title like that! On 11/17/2010 10:35 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Better title: The Goddernator Stalks it's Prey On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Steve. The Goddernator would have made a good title. Wish I'd thought of it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The Goddernator. Neat shot. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
... and we're all better off for it. :-) On 11/17/2010 3:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Know what to do with it. Godfrey used to have one, and a great set of lenses to go with it, but decided that it was too big to carry in his camera bag and sold them all to buy an 8x10 view camera and three lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso mr. mom
A good bit of my self-esteem rests on that very premise. On 11/14/2010 10:20 AM, Bob W wrote: things can be vulgar AND funny! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Guardhouse
I dig this mightily. -- Walt On 11/14/2010 6:00 AM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all A shot from about a year ago at Cockatoo Island in Sydney Harbour. I like the shadow patterns in this as well as the intersecting lines. I've had a few tries at processing it over the intervening period, trying to retain reasonable detail in the shadow areas - never quite satisfied so I keep coming back to it. This seems to be about as good as I can do. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2508peso.html Comments/suggestions/criticisms all gratefully received. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Platinum Print Guy
Haven't you heard? A guy recently bought a whole bunch of them at a yard sale for $5.00 http://is.gd/hkfv0 Little has been spoken of archrival Harry Westmen, who pioneered albumen printing on white bread. All his great prints have been either lost or eaten. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Ablaze
I see your point, Brian. That hadn't occurred to me at all, and it may be why I'm on the fence about it. I loved the colors, and the way the clouds suggested smoke emanating from the fiery color in the trees. But, there's no point in the photo that draws the eye. I'll go ahead and submit it just to be surprised if it passes muster. But, if they kick me out of the gallery for it, I'm blaming you. -- Walt On 11/17/2010 9:45 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:11 -0600, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm submitting a few more images for the Pentax Gallery, and just wanted to get a little input on this shot, as I'm on the fence about it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5185239879/ K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 18mm), f/4, ISO 800, 1/3200, Aperture Priority (I'd been taking pictures of family in a fairly dim room before I went out for my stroll and neglected to adjust for conditions outside. Hence the high ISO.) I like it as an image on its own merits, but in a gallery full of foliage photos, I just don't know if it would get my attention. So, any input -- thumbs-up-or-down -- would be appreciated. Thumbs sideways The colours and contrst are great and the split between the foliage and sky forms a diagonal across the frame which is interesting. My reservation is that it doesn't seem to have a defined focal point. That said, I'd submit it anyway. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm back, and so is @PDML
Just to make sure I have this right -- any post to PDML that has PESO or GESO (case-sensitive, as you said) *automatically* goes to the Twitter feed, and that's it? You don't have to engage in any other alchemy or wizardry? If so, how'd you do that? That's pretty spiffy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 12:44 AM, Tim Bray wrote: The summer trip to Chicago, except for the couple of hours I spent in your company, was disastrous on some other fronts, and then I got super-busy at work, then I noticed I was like 2000-plus messages behind on PDML. Also, the PESO/Twitter mashup broke when Twitter introduced a barbaric technology called OAuth. Long story short: recently I've been shooting more and consequently missing y'all and your pictures. So I fixed the mashup and will post a couple of pix to prove I'm here. A quick mashup primer: It's at http://twitter.com/#!/PDML, @PDML for short, and if you're a twitter/Pentax kind of person you might enjoy it. If you post anything with a subject line that begins PESO or GESO it shows up there. It's case-sensitive, so if you want to avoid that just say Peso or peso or whatever. I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to make it skip over the hundreds of PESOs since it broke in August so it's doing 15 per hour and should be caught up in a couple of days. Photo news... recently I've been sort of infatuated with the stupidly-good-for-its-size-and-price Canon S90. So when I travel I take my K20, the 40mm and 21mm Limiteds, and the S90; a very compact and versatile kit. The S90 has a bit of zoom and is damn near the K20's equal for low-light. I am totally planning on not buying a K-5. Totally, I keep telling myself. -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just a note ...
Best wishes to you, John! My dad had surgery for that several years ago and all went well. He had to undergo the chemo and radiation therapy as well, but you'd have never known it unless he told you. Here's hoping you have as smooth a ride, or even better. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:06 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I have to go into the VA hospital in Durham, NC tomorrow morning for prostate cancer surgery, so I'm going to be off-line for a while. I hope to be back on-line by the weekend. Y'all keep yer fingers crossed for me please. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm back, and so is @PDML
Hah! :-D http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 10-11-16 11:36 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Just to make sure I have this right -- any post to PDML that has PESO or GESO (case-sensitive, as you said) *automatically* goes to the Twitter feed, and that's it? You don't have to engage in any other alchemy or wizardry? If so, how'd you do that? That's pretty spiffy. Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards. It makes them soggy and hard to light. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
Hi all, This is a shot I took on my recent trip to Arkansas on one of my family outing days, taken at the Wilderness Safari in Gentry, Arkansas (which I HIGHLY recommend if you should ever find yourself in the area). http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5181653663/ K-x, DAL 50-200 (at 125mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/400, Aperture priority As you can see, said cormorant was a rather curious one -- apparently, we had arrived pretty close to feeding time. This is a resized copy of the original jpeg, for purposes of posting to my Facebook page. I'm posting it here mostly just to see if it would show up in the magical Twitter feed, but comments, critiques and lavish gifts are welcome nonetheless. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just a note ...
Best of luck to you, too, Stan! You'll be in my thoughts as well. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:59 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: Hey John - I go in Friday morning for the same thing. Send some good thoughts my way . . . Best of luck and best wishes for a rapid recovery. stan On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I have to go into the VA hospital in Durham, NC tomorrow morning for prostate cancer surgery, so I'm going to be off-line for a while. I hope to be back on-line by the weekend. Y'all keep yer fingers crossed for me please. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
Thanks, Dan! Here's another cormorant I captured that day: Cormorantus Rex http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5182322610/ K-x, DAL 50-200 (at 115), f/4.5, 1/400, ISO 200, Aperture Priority It was a very cool place for photography, I have to say. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 11:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: It's not a cormorant, but is is a great image! Dan On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This is a shot I took on my recent trip to Arkansas on one of my family outing days, taken at the Wilderness Safari in Gentry, Arkansas (which I HIGHLY recommend if you should ever find yourself in the area). http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5181653663/ K-x, DAL 50-200 (at 125mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/400, Aperture priority As you can see, said cormorant was a rather curious one -- apparently, we had arrived pretty close to feeding time. This is a resized copy of the original jpeg, for purposes of posting to my Facebook page. I'm posting it here mostly just to see if it would show up in the magical Twitter feed, but comments, critiques and lavish gifts are welcome nonetheless. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Absolutely Fireproof
Absolutely love it! What a great shot. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 9:52 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: http://www.pixelsmithy.com/absolutely-fireproof Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
Thanks, Frank! I was just joshing around with the whole cormorant thing. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 11:54 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This is a shot I took on my recent trip to Arkansas on one of my family outing days, taken at the Wilderness Safari in Gentry, Arkansas (which I HIGHLY recommend if you should ever find yourself in the area). http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5181653663/ K-x, DAL 50-200 (at 125mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/400, Aperture priority As you can see, said cormorant was a rather curious one -- apparently, we had arrived pretty close to feeding time. This is a resized copy of the original jpeg, for purposes of posting to my Facebook page. I'm posting it here mostly just to see if it would show up in the magical Twitter feed, but comments, critiques and lavish gifts are welcome nonetheless. Doesn't look like any cormorants we have around here (they're black diving waterfowl in these parts), but it's a cool shot! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- East River (Fall 2010)
Great shot! Very placid, glassy surface. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 12:26 PM, Tim Bray wrote: So peaceful. -T On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastriver2010.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another interesting write up about 645D
With any luck, it'll cause a precipitous price drop for the K-r and bring it further down into the entry-level range, and I'll be able to have illuminated focus points, improved low-light focusing, and higher frame rate for a fairly good price as I begin to approach 50,000 clicks on my K-x. That is, assuming I haven't managed to save up for a K-5 by then -- which, at this point, strikes me as a fairly dubious proposition. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 7:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 10-11-16 7:07 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Indeed...and the K-5 is growing a very good reputation in the 'industry'...(lesnumeriques just tested the 60D and they say that it is a good camera but not at the level of K-5/D7000) The looser here semms the K-r...well...maybe the success of the K-x was based on the fact that it surpassed the K-7 in some respects, and this is not the case of the K-r vs. K-5. Regards, Jaume It can only be a good thing that the K-5 trounces the K-r in *all* respects. There was clear confusion in the market (as evidenced by the PDML sub-market) that the K-x beat the K-7 in a few ways and that hurt the K-7's reputation and Pentax sales. The K-5 seems to be entirely made of win. The K-r should benefit from the new Pentax halo effect. -bmw I think the K-r's biggest problem is that it's too much a K-x with tweaks and the K-x is just so cheap now that the price difference is a bit hard to justify for many. Still looks like a great little camera but it's lost between the much higher-end K-5 and the much cheaper K-x. --Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO today's mushroom picture
Well, if they keep coming out like this one, you need all you can get! Very nice. I've never seen mushrooms pose before. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 7:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I keep asking myself how many mushroom pictures do I need? I was working in the yard this afternoon and got distracted by playing with my camera again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set-72157625405200292/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
Now, now. Let's not get our tit in a wringer. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 9:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Don't grouse. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:39 PM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: That is a fowl remark! Dan Go and hide your head in the sand Dave On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5181653663/ K-x, DAL 50-200 (at 125mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/400, Aperture priority As you can see, said cormorant was a rather curious one -- apparently, we He's at least EMUlating a cormorant. inside every ostrich there's a cormorant trying to get out B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: test
Success! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:36 PM, cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: test -- Sent from my Verizon Wireless mobile phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photos of trips with Walter
Thanks, Brian. As I posted in my photo blog, Picher was immensely fascinating for me. I think I could have stayed there shooting for an entire week and never run out of shots to take. I wondered what became of Gloria and Tom, too. I always love finding things like that -- personal graffiti, for lack of a better term. Glad you enjoyed my contribution. I absolutely enjoyed making it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/15/2010 5:58 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:24 -0600, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: I started to post the photos I took to Flickr, but quickly grew annoyed at the fact that it was taking forever to get them all uploaded (and that I've exceeded my 200-photo limit!!!). So, I went ahead and put together a couple of blog posts with some of the images I took on our treks out into the NW Arkansas and NE Oklahoma hinterlands. After looking at Ted's shots, I must say I'm submitting these humbly, and only because it would be unseemly not to do so. It seems Ted was wise enough to take time to create good photography, whereas I took a rather scatter-shot approach -- taking pictures of everything that moved, and didn't move. If I learned anything from our trips, it's the old maxim, Slow and steady wins the race. RAW vs. jpeg. Bracketed vs. single exposure. Tripod vs. handheld. My hat is off to you, Mr. Beilby. You gave me quite a tutorial, whether you intended to or not. :-) http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/picher-oklahoma-americas-newest-ghost-town http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/scenes-from-northwest-arkansas I enjoyed those Walt - and thanks for the story about Pilcher. Old mining towns are fascinating places. Nice to know that Gloria loved Tom for at least 16 days back in 1998. Wonder how that turned out? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photos of trips with Walter
I started to post the photos I took to Flickr, but quickly grew annoyed at the fact that it was taking forever to get them all uploaded (and that I've exceeded my 200-photo limit!!!). So, I went ahead and put together a couple of blog posts with some of the images I took on our treks out into the NW Arkansas and NE Oklahoma hinterlands. After looking at Ted's shots, I must say I'm submitting these humbly, and only because it would be unseemly not to do so. It seems Ted was wise enough to take time to create good photography, whereas I took a rather scatter-shot approach -- taking pictures of everything that moved, and didn't move. If I learned anything from our trips, it's the old maxim, Slow and steady wins the race. RAW vs. jpeg. Bracketed vs. single exposure. Tripod vs. handheld. My hat is off to you, Mr. Beilby. You gave me quite a tutorial, whether you intended to or not. :-) http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/picher-oklahoma-americas-newest-ghost-town http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/scenes-from-northwest-arkansas Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/14/2010 12:48 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: I know some of you hate Flickr but I decided to use it because of putting around fifty shots online. I divided them into different locations and put them into a collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/collections/72157625264533489/ Comments are welcomed, We went to: Boxley Valley Nature Area, Steel Creek Campground, Lost Valley Campground, and War Eagle Mill on Wednesday. On Friday, we drove to Pitcher, Oklahoma. I hope you enjoy. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Back from Beilbyville!
Hi all! Just wanted to check in and let everyone know that the trip to northwest Arkansas, where I was most graciously hosted by Ted Beilby. He took me around to several excellent sites that made for an absolutely joyful experience for me as a budding photographer. I can't thank him enough for all the kindness he showed me, not to mention the immensely interesting and beautiful landscapes. It was a trip I'll never forget. I managed over 1000 shutter actuations over the course of the five days I was there -- well over half of which were taken in the places I visited with Ted as my guide. The folks who sang Ted's praises were indeed correct. He's a great guy to hang out with in general, and an invaluable resource to this greenhorn. My trip would have been less than half as enjoyable but for his contribution. Now, if you all will excuse me for about a week, I have a few files to go through. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Walt's visit to NW Arkansas
I have finally landed at home, in western Kentucky. As Ted said, couple of the sites weren't at what he would consider to be prime photo fodder, but I thoroughly enjoyed every place we went to. Even War Eagle Mill provided some interesting images that I'm anxious to dig into, despite the presence of four school buses full of juvenile miscreants and signs prohibiting entry into good vantage points. In all likelihood, I'll be back in War Eagle Mill one day, and I'll be carrying hip waders. I'd like to see them try to stop me then. Of all the places we went, I guess I'd have to say the most interesting was Picher, OK. Had I not been unceremoniously and prematurely called away from the day by my sister (more accurately, her teenage daughter), I could have spent days out there finding stuff to shoot. Still, they were all great. I got in a lot of practice, and loved every minute of it! Many thanks, Ted! I couldn't have asked for a better host/guide. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/13/2010 7:51 AM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Well Walter has come and gone. Wednesday we drove to the Buffalo River area and shot elk in Boxley Valley, scenic at Steel Creek, hiked into Lost Valley and found that there was no water at Eden Falls, then we went to War Eagle Mill only to find no access to good spots to photograph from and four school bus loads of elementary school kids marching across the bridge. All in all, a good day of shooting. Thursday, Walt had to devote to family which was good as I was under the weather somewhat. Yesterday, I picked him up before dawn and we drove to Pitcher, OK. (a Superfund cleanup site.) We spent several hours there exploring the ramshackle buildings and dodging rain showers. Almost as far opposite as you can get from Wednesday's subjects, yet, still evidence of nature. I am still working on post and will put online sometime this weekend. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goin' to Beilbyville
Thank you, Boris! I'll be sure to pass along your sentiments and maximize my photographic fun. It'll probably take me a good week to go through the photos when I get back. 'Til then ... -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/7/2010 1:22 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Walter, please pass Ted my warmest regards. I remember the similar situation when I was about to travel to Norway in 2004. I brought with me heavy and big bag full of all kinds of gear. At the end, the advise I received prior to that was the most sound one - just let go and have fun with your camera, don't sweat about lenses, etc. HTH. Boris On 11/7/2010 5:26 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a week-long excursion to Arkansas, whereupon I shall engage the tutelage of one Ted Beilby. Unfortunately, my finances will be severely limited, forcing me to subsist on hard tack and salt pork. Otherwise, I'd buy everyone shot glasses from the gift shop. Any advice on preparation before I head out the door? I have an extremely crappy inherited tripod (Velbon Victory 451) which I'm tempted to take, but don't know if it'll be worth the baggage factor. I've used it on approximately, three shots since I got my K-x, but have never really found it useful for the types of photography I've done. Will it be worth my while to take it along on hikes given its relative shoddiness, or would I be just as well off shooting handheld with shake reduction? I'll be packing my whopping total of four lenses, though I suspect I'll only get much use out of two of them -- 18-55 and 50-200 DA L kit lenses. The other two are my 70-300 Promaster 4/5.6 and Takumar 135 2.5. I don't know how useful either of them would be, but I'll have them just in case. Any suggestions in addition to the guiding hand of Mr. Beilby will be much appreciated. I'll be heading out at 8:00 AM central time and don't know how much access to the list I'll have once I get there. Thanks in advance for any quick tips you can offer before I leave! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Goin' to Beilbyville
Hi Cotty, I'm looking forward to meeting Ted. I was hoping to do so over some drag racing this summer, but we never got around to it. But, better in autumn than never. I look forward to reporting in with the details a week (or so) hence. Best, Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/7/2010 3:45 AM, Cotty wrote: On 6/11/10, Walter Gilbert, discombobulated, unleashed: Any suggestions in addition to the guiding hand of Mr. Beilby will be much appreciated. Ted is a real gentleman and one of the warmest people I have ever met. I envy you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Goin' to Beilbyville
Hi all, Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that I'll be leaving tomorrow to go on a week-long excursion to Arkansas, whereupon I shall engage the tutelage of one Ted Beilby. Unfortunately, my finances will be severely limited, forcing me to subsist on hard tack and salt pork. Otherwise, I'd buy everyone shot glasses from the gift shop. Any advice on preparation before I head out the door? I have an extremely crappy inherited tripod (Velbon Victory 451) which I'm tempted to take, but don't know if it'll be worth the baggage factor. I've used it on approximately, three shots since I got my K-x, but have never really found it useful for the types of photography I've done. Will it be worth my while to take it along on hikes given its relative shoddiness, or would I be just as well off shooting handheld with shake reduction? I'll be packing my whopping total of four lenses, though I suspect I'll only get much use out of two of them -- 18-55 and 50-200 DA L kit lenses. The other two are my 70-300 Promaster 4/5.6 and Takumar 135 2.5. I don't know how useful either of them would be, but I'll have them just in case. Any suggestions in addition to the guiding hand of Mr. Beilby will be much appreciated. I'll be heading out at 8:00 AM central time and don't know how much access to the list I'll have once I get there. Thanks in advance for any quick tips you can offer before I leave! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG reminder
Lamentably, my rejection was richly deserved. Maybe January's PUG could be, What the hell was I thinking? -- Walt On 11/4/2010 7:24 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: It can happen to any photograph: A dust speck, a tilted horizon, or a slight underexposer makes your whole picture unacceptable. Suddenly it's got nowhere to go. Or worse yet, it's rejected from its gallery during a simple editing of the details. Where does it go for help? Right here: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=58 The PDML Home for Rejected Pentax Photographs accepts all photographs. Has your photograph been unceremoniously rejected from the Pentax Photo Gallery? Click the link. Welcome home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II
But do any of them have the soul of an Olympus? I think not. -- Walt On 11/5/2010 12:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: All DLSR's are direct competetors of each other, or not, depends on how you look at it. It's in a different market segment. On 11/4/2010 8:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The 5DmII is a direct competitor to the K5, yes? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Maasa...@mawz.ca wrote: The 5DmII's AF is a sore point for Canon shooters. The high ISO on the other hand is excellent. -Adam On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, P N Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I rarely read Pentax forum, but I did today since I'm curious about their k-5 posts. This guy claims to be a Canon shooter and says the K-5 autofocus is superior. I haven't tested the autofocus enough to determine how good it is, but I have yet to experience a problem. Interesting that he's not that wild about the high ISO performance of the Pentax, which pretty much blew me away. Perhaps the 5000 is very good in that regard. Don't know. http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/120794-k-5-images-impressions.html Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Choosing a Digital Camera
Favre -- Walt (the other one) On 11/4/2010 6:55 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: So, what new words are we using today because of digital photography? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minor question of Englsih
I may not be the best person to explain the difference, but I'll try. The difference is subtle. In When I say to you -- the word to indicates that I am communicating with you particularly. In using When I'm saying you, there's no indication that anyone in particular is being addressed. For example, Believe me when I'm saying nice things -- I could simply be trying to emphasize that when I say nice things, I mean it -- and I could be saying nice things to anyone, and mean it just as much. On the other hand, if I were to say, Believe me when I say to you that you're beautiful ... the difference is that I'm trying to emphasize a personal connection with you ... the person I'm actually speaking to. I should point out that, in conversational English, you'd almost never hear it spoken that way by a native speaker. Most often, people would say, Believe me when I *tell* you rather than Believe me when I *say to* you, which I can only imagine being used in song lyrics or poetry for the purpose of phrasing and meter. I hope that helps somewhat, and hasn't caused you even more confusion. Best, Walt Contact Me Facebook http://www.facebook.com/walt.gilbertFlickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/Twitter http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert --- @ WiseStamp Signature http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install. Get it now http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install On 11/3/2010 12:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Each time I listen to Russians by Sting (lyrics here, e.g.: http://www.lyricattack.com/s/stinglyrics/russianslyrics.html), what is the difference between I'm saying you smth and I say to you like Sting sings? Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minor question of Englsih
You're more than welcome, Boris. I have to admire anyone who manages to learn English as a non-native speaker -- or any other language, really. :-) -- Walt On 11/3/2010 1:48 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Thanks, Walter. I think it clears this issue completely. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Photo Gallery acceptance + semi-OT question
Hi all, OK, I'll get the boasting out of the way, first: I found out yesterday that I've had three more of my submissions accepted, and one declined, for the Pentax Photo Gallery. I'll take those odds! I still have two of my original submissions pending, and two new ones uploaded since I got my first rejection. And, in all honesty, I'm somewhat surprised at my accept/reject rate. I submitted seven shots originally, and was happy to have one of them accepted, much less four! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert Now, on with the brain-picking. Over the past few weeks, I've attended a lot of political rallies and appearances by a fairly high profile US Senate candidate who won last night, and I've taken a whole gang of photos of the guy. I do know that just about every media outlet in existence gets its political photos from the wire services. My question is, how does one go about selling images to the wire services? Is it even worth trying to do so as an unestablished freelancer, assuming the photos meet whatever standards they have? I also have some more artistic shots of the candidate and wonder how I might go about shopping those around. Any help anyone can give me would be immensely appreciated, as I'm trying to make a little money wherever I can in hopes of, you know, owning a car again someday. Thanks in advance for any guidance anyone can give me. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery acceptance + semi-OT question
Thanks, Dave. After a little more research, I discovered that what you do is generally the best way to go as far as getting photos on the wire. I also get the impression that selling to wire services isn't really the wisest thing to do, since they generally require that you sign over all rights and offer little in the way of compensation. So, skroo those guys. I think I may actually be able to put together a coffee table book out of the images I've taken this year and sell it to political junkies, though. I have gotten some images that I believe would be appealing to fanboys and such. I'm going to have to look into it. -- Walt On 11/3/2010 12:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Not sure if this is helpful, but for the local papers around here, i load up on to a page the photos i think they may want and direct them to the link. If they had a photographer there, i lose, if not they will ask me to send photo A etc. Dave On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, OK, I'll get the boasting out of the way, first: I found out yesterday that I've had three more of my submissions accepted, and one declined, for the Pentax Photo Gallery. I'll take those odds! I still have two of my original submissions pending, and two new ones uploaded since I got my first rejection. And, in all honesty, I'm somewhat surprised at my accept/reject rate. I submitted seven shots originally, and was happy to have one of them accepted, much less four! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert Now, on with the brain-picking. Over the past few weeks, I've attended a lot of political rallies and appearances by a fairly high profile US Senate candidate who won last night, and I've taken a whole gang of photos of the guy. I do know that just about every media outlet in existence gets its political photos from the wire services. My question is, how does one go about selling images to the wire services? Is it even worth trying to do so as an unestablished freelancer, assuming the photos meet whatever standards they have? I also have some more artistic shots of the candidate and wonder how I might go about shopping those around. Any help anyone can give me would be immensely appreciated, as I'm trying to make a little money wherever I can in hopes of, you know, owning a car again someday. Thanks in advance for any guidance anyone can give me. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Caffe
My personal favorite whole bean: http://www.mysticmonkcoffee.com/store/storefront.php Mystic Monk Blend, Cowboy Blend, and Colombian are all worth getting power of attorney over Gramma's estate and selling her house out from under her. -- Walt On 11/3/2010 1:18 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: Our local coffee shop (the Lexington Coffee Shop) is connected with a local bean roaster (the Lexington Roasting Co.) so I have long since lost track of the outside world. The outside world I recommend getting in touch with: http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On behalf of William Robb
That's why I filtered Hitler. On 11/3/2010 1:31 PM, Cotty wrote: Congratulations, you've just justified the holocaust. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Gallery acceptance + semi-OT question
Thanks, Larry! I have another shot of a tiger swallowtail submitted that I'm not quite sure will make the cut as it doesn't seem to be quite as sharp to my eye, but I like the colors better than the one that's been accepted. Then again, I had the same opinion of Life Savers when I submitted it. We'll see, I suppose. I won't be heartbroken if it's rejected, though. -- Walt On 11/3/2010 1:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, OK, I'll get the boasting out of the way, first: I found out yesterday that I've had three more of my submissions accepted, and one declined, for the Pentax Photo Gallery. I'll take those odds! I still have two of my original submissions pending, and two new ones uploaded since I got my first rejection. And, in all honesty, I'm somewhat surprised at my accept/reject rate. I submitted seven shots originally, and was happy to have one of them accepted, much less four! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert Those butterfly pictures are annoyingly nice, especially tiger -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
