Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'Criminal Minds' says hello, Frisco
David Risner wrote: Forest Whitaker has already had big, and very well done, roles in The Shield ER. Not to mention being in the Rod-Serling-as-host role (as opposed to the Rod-Serling-as-writer role) for the UPN revival of The Twilight Zone. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] WGN Cubs Promo
On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Joe Hass wrote: Even if you're not much of a baseball fan, it's worth watching if only to see the parade of WGN logos through the years. And if you are, it's a reminder that we're only 27 days away from Opening Day (I don't count that ESPN Sunday Night game that's an affront to God, nature, and Abner Doubleday) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSadtke3w2A Together forever is kind of a bold promise in this day and age, when it comes to a team and their broadcast outlets. (I know it's radio and not TV, but I'm sure five years ago, no one would have batted an eyelash if KMOX had advertised themselves as being together forever with the St. Louis Cardinals.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Emergency bulletin for Kevin
@dohertyshannen now exists. That is all. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: How do you pronounce this?
On Mar 5, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Michael wrote: Re: The working title, such as it is - I must note that CBS is the home of the free-cursing (albeit humorously-censored) crown prince of late-night Craigyferg. And not that anyone currently at CBS would remember this, but they once had a daytime game show named Whew, which a title that sounds strange if one tries to pronounce it as if it's an actual word: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZPOIsDK90 -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] R-rated Gilligan?
Bob in Jersey wrote: Would be the only way to justify making it into a feature film... I'll let one of you make the obvious joke... Russell Johnson has long claimed that the real reason they never got off the island (at least, during the original series) was because the Professor didn't really want to leave -- on the island, he had no serious competition for Ginger and Mary Ann. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Again with the live-v-taped Olympics...
Tom Wolper wrote: I've seen a lot of carping about live streaming only hockey and curling on NBC's website. What I haven't seen mentioned is that not everybody can see those events on their website. They restrict it to NBC partners only. I have Comcast Basic and when I tried to watch a game, I got redirected to a Comcast page to order a digital package. If I had a digital package, I'd be watching the games on TV instead. Same thing happens with the site ESPN would likely use to stream Olympics coverage, ESPN360.com. I didn't have access to ESPN360 when my ISP was DSL Extreme, and I still don't have access now that my ISP is Road Runner/Time Warner -- neither one has paid ESPN's fee for the right to make it available to their subscribers. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Anyone else caught Archer on FX?
On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Kevin M. wrote: Starring the voice talent of H. Jon Benjamin (Ben from Dr. Katz and Chris' boss on Family Guy) and a few co-stars of Arrested Development, including Jessica Walter. People were asking if there was a cartoon to plug into Adult Swim -- I think we may have a winner. It's from the creators of the Adult Swim cartoons Sealab 2021 and Frisky Dingo. Looks like it was pitched to FX soon after Adult Swim declined to renew Frisky Dingo. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Stephen Colbert at Pride House
On Feb 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: Well, it meets my experience. If I see this explanation on video, it's out of a guest's mouth after they appeared on TCR. If I see it coming from Colbert (which happens much less often than from a guest), it's been in print. Here he is explaining it to John Kerry before a Colbert Report taping in 2007 (I'm an idiot to let them film this): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Z-IaMV3Pc -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: And we inch ever so closer to an all day Adult-Swim channel...
M-D November wrote: I wonder how much of an option McFarlane would be for the 9-10 block. CN doesn't have a west coast feed (that I know of)... They do indeed have a West Coast feed, at least of the standard-def version. (DirecTV has both feeds in SD, but only the East feed in HD. I only watch the latter, since I have my receiver in hide SD duplicates mode.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Anyone else snowed in?
On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Doug Eastick wrote: Welcome to Canada, everyone. (I say this with a snicker because this winter for me has been light snow. Max 8 inches only once.) Surely you mean 20cm, right? As I was leaving work this afternoon, someone who had just come inside was complaining to the receptionist about the cold weather. It was 60 degrees and sunny. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC zonks all CoCo from Web
jeffrey marousek wrote: I doubt we have run a paid spot (except the occasional PI) beyond 11:35pm in years. Do you fill the local ad time in Late Night with Jimmy Fallon et al. with PSAs, promos, and such, or do you just go back to the still-with-the-band-playing that's on the network feed? -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC zonks all CoCo from Web
On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Kevin M. wrote: Decent interview. During my brief trist with Late Night in LA ten years ago, the two I worked closest to were Mike Sweeney and then head writer Robert Smigel (a.k.a. Triumph). Sweeney was the one I went to when I asked to join Conan's Tonight Show as a writer's assistant. My mom is glad they didn't hire me, since I'd be unemployed now. But I would be unemployed with a healthy severance (and having The Tonight Show writer's room on a resume would have been nice), so who is to say what is better. And I now realize that I saw Mike Sweeney at a They Might Be Giants show at the Largo in L.A. on Saturday night (between the opening act and the TMBG performance, sitting on a bench outside the auditorium, with what appeared to be a wife and kids). Sadly, I didn't recognize him beyond hmm, that guy with the gray hair looks oddly familiar for some reason -- I'm really, really bad at recognizing people out of context. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bad, really, really bad for public relations
On Feb 7, 2010, at 10:49 AM, K.M. Richards wrote: (Oh, and something else I have learned from friends who still work at ATT: In a widespread disaster, your cell phone isn't going to work either, because of the way the wireless infrastructure works ... or rather, won't work under those circumstances. Text messaging *may* work, but no one guarantees that either... Absolutely -- when there was a relatively minor earthquake in L.A. during the work day a while back, the first reaction of many of my coworkers was to 1) evacuate the building, and 2) attempt to use their cell phones to call to check on their kids and/or significant others. 1) was not a good idea, and 2) didn't work; no one could get a call through. I've since joined the company emergency response team, which officially empowers me to yell at people during earthquakes. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: In NY, the day will start even earlier
On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:51 PM, jeffrey marousek wrote: nbc has been threatening to drop early today for years now. every summer we get a survey asking the affiliates about not having it available. every year they renew it, it is a surprise to our programming exec. There was once a time (late 1997/early 1998) when I had to show up at the office at 3:30 A.M. to work on the closed-captioning of NBC News at Sunrise, the predecessor to Early Today. Back then, the start time was 5:00. I was surprised any home viewers could even read the captions at that hour, in their bleary-eyed states. I'm sure it's even worse at 4:00. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy online test
On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:37 PM, PGage wrote: When I give tests to students over the internet, we require them to use a lock-down browser that prevents students from doing anything else on their computer, in any other window, other than working on the test. Does J use something like this here? Their check against cheating is to, at the in-person auditions, give another 50-question test. They're not scored right away -- everyone at the auditions gets to play a mock version of the game for, and be interviewed by, the contestant coordinators, and is told you're in the potential contestant pool for 18 months -- but presumably anyone who does significantly worse on the live test than the online version goes into the circular file. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy online test
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Kevin M. wrote: The audition questions will be up on the website within the hour. I haven't checked all the answers yet, but I feel I'll be lucky if I got 50% correct. Wednesday's test, which I took, definitely seemed harder than any other previous J! test I've taken, live or online. I have to assume they're trying to limit the number of people competing to be randomly chosen for one of the in-person auditions. (But I think I got 41 or 42, which should put me in the running.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy online test
On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:20 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: Just finished it earlier this evening. I'm not particularly happy with my scores, and even though I know there's a random selection process for auditions of those who qualified, I will be annoyed if I don't get picked this time after being picked before. Sorry, needed to vent, and I know there are those who've dealt with this on here besides FJ!C Sikula. I also took the test tonight, even though it wasn't the one for my time zone (because I feel like I think better at 6:00 than I do at 8:00). A few I had absolutely no clue on -- current popular fiction is one of my weak spots, and there were at least two questions relating to that -- but I'm pretty sure I did well enough. I will also be annoyed if I don't get invited to an in-person tryout, because, of course, I'm positive that the SIXTH time is going to be the charm and I'll get the call to be a contestant. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] DVR follies, part the next
On Jan 14, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: There are enough other annoyances with the Samsung that I'm going to swap it for a Scientific Atlanta (no one is more shocked than I), but this one is the most intriguing. Anybody have any theories as to how it happened? And how it'll happen again on Monday, if the Samsung is still here? (According to the recording manager, tonight, next Tuesday and next Wednesday are all 1:30 starts.) At what point do you decide that the extra cost for a TiVo is worth no longer having to deal with Time Warner's various attempts to produce a properly-working DVR? -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Ebersol: What this is really all about is an astounding failure by Conan
On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:10 PM, PGage wrote: (small illustration, one night he had both LA icon Magic Johnson and Boston icon Larry Bird on to promote a great book they wrote together; Conan obviously idolizes Bird and has an instinctive antipathy for Magic and the Lakers - something I can relate to, since I have it in the reverse. But rather than either pretend to be an LA guy, or just play his Boston passion for exaggerated laughs, he was apologetic and tentative and awkward) I think that segment was doomed to be apologetic, tentative, and awkward from the get-go, since Magic was in the studio while Bird was only on a monitor, via satellite from Indiana -- definitely not an interviewing setup that Conan has had much experience with. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight Show Match Game
On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Kevin M. wrote: I've even replicated the Super Match board, and the game will feature the funky music to think to. But will you have a stagehand behind the board? Slide it, Earl! -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Simpsons aftermath
Joe Hass wrote: My guess is this: FOX had hoped that they could ask for the early game on Sunday, so they could start the special at 7:00 pm ET. Instead, stuck with an Arizona home game that forced them to take the late slot, they had to assume they couldn't get anything on until 8:00 pm, so they moved the special *after* the episode. Because instead of the regular three Seth shows that would follow, they would only have the one, they eliminated the joke. The special was scheduled for 8:30 before Fox knew they were definitely getting a late game, though -- it was showing at 8:30 in the program listings on my DVR as of January 2nd. (I believe even last week's Entertainment Weekly, which would have been printed couple days before that, had the start time as 8:30.) But I suspect that it was the CHANCE of a late game that led them to put the special at 8:30. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] new DVD trick: ex-extras
On Dec 24, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Jon Delfin wrote: Just got off the phone with a Netflix rep. The studios want you to buy the DVD, so they'll let you watch the movie, but if you want the extras, you'll have to cough up the dough. This is going to get ugly. This practice came to light with the Up DVD last month -- Disney took ALL the features off the rental edition, including the subtitling/closed captioning. They did apologize, and ended up giving out discount coupons for future movies, or some such thing. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Nobody gets Texas
jeffrey marousek wrote: then you are not old enough. 30-35 years ago, all remotes clicked. you had to have a lot of money back then to possess one though! there were 5 buttons. one for power, one for channel up, one for channel down, one for volume up, and one for volume down. pretty ingenious for the time. each click created an ultrasonic frequency...no batteries required! You don't even have to be that old yourself. My grandparents had a Zenith console TV into the late 1980s that had this clicker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/15692...@n00/1524813919/ Note that it has only four buttons. If I recall correctly, pressing the volume button by itself meant mute; adjusting the volume required pressing the volume button at the same time as either of the channel buttons. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Saddam TV, a channel Comcast isn't offering
Kevin M. wrote: Kevin M. (who has nightmare-inducing visions of Palin TV or even Bush TV dancing through his head) I thought we already had those, in the form of Fox News Channel. (Too obvious a response? Probably.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] technical question
On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Kevin M. wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote: So how does the DVR know when the television is on? The DVR's power is always on. When it was running Passport OS, both the foreground and background tuners maintained an hour's worth of buffer. Now, with Navigator OS, when I turn on the television, the foreground buffer is (almost always, but *not* always, which is even more weird) empty, and the background buffer is empty. Can anyone explain? Thanks. Probably some sub-frequency sent through the coax (frequency may not be the right word) that detects an active monitor/TV. Not unlike the method of detection used to identify a VCR attempting to record a copyrighted DVD. If it is plugged in and on... it just knows. Jon: Are you saying that you'll turn on the TV and both buffers will be empty, but then after you start actively watching (e.g., switching live TV to a different channel, or playing back a recorded program), you'll eventually notice that a buffer's been building up? Sounds more like a bug to me -- that is, the DVR stops keeping the buffer at a certain point after its last activity; once you wake it up by doing something, it starts keeping the buffer again. As far as I know, TVs in general don't send any kind of signal over coaxial cable (or any other possible video or audio connection) that could be used by another device to indicate whether they're on or off. But I'll defer to Kevin's brother on that. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] technical question
On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: I was wondering about what Kevin said about the VCR knowing a protected DVD shouldn't be copied. Isn't that because the DVD has a code included in its audio or video signal? So it's not that the VCR is reaching out to the DVD player, but that the DVD player is sending out a block? It's because the video on the DVD is encoded in such a way that the DVD player (and the TV) can handle the signal fine, but the VCR can't. Copy-protection on prerecorded VHS tapes worked similarly: the VCR could deal with it upon playback, but it would confuse a VCR that's trying to record it. Wikipedia is happy to explain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovi_Corporation#Content_Protection -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Plan accordingly...
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Bob in Jersey wrote: Sean Healy, to Wesley McGee: Any idea what they will fill with on the west coast? I checked LA through myway.com, and they still list Jay as usual. Obviously the updaters are not going to return until Monday. My DirecTV on-screen guide has been updated. It shows Dateline NBC at 8:00, The Biggest Loser at 9:00. Perhaps a glimpse of NBC's future...? -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv/ -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Watch Oprah Tear Up Announcing Show's End
PGage wrote: I was surprised to learn through the coverage today that her show is distributed by CBS, which seems odd since I am pretty sure her program is on the ABC stations in Los Angeles and San Francisco, unless that has changed in the last couple of years. Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy!, and Oprah -- all began syndication within a couple years of each other, all syndicated by King World (which has become CBS), all airing on most of the ABC owned-and-operated stations. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: [adult swim] Stoner Series promos
M-D November wrote: Point noted, but in this case, the entire logo is typographic. So... This doesn't directly apply to email forums, but it's the first example I can come up with: most, if not all, print publications have the ability to put a little star into regular typography. So why, when writing articles about a certain department store chain, do they use Macy's instead of macy(star)s (or even macy*s)? Think about it. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [adult swim] Stoner Series promos
Joe Coughlin wrote: I can't wait until [scrubs] returns this December. And now, please enjoy the sound of me banging my head on my desk for the next 5 minutes. (If I had a lot of time on my hands, I would start submitting endless corrections to IMDB based on the fact that, since they're presenting the title of Scrubs as [scrubs] based on its logo, then they also need to do, for example, tHe SIMPSONS.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [adult swim] Stoner Series promos
Wesley McGee wrote: If for some reason I post a press release from the local CBS affiliate from Washington DC, will I be subject to this if I don't strip out the stars they sneak in between the W and the U in its call letters (though they do it inconsistently)? Cut-and-pasting a press release is one thing; it's if you started a brand-new message that started off I was watching W*USA via DIRECTV on my S^MSUNG and then flipped over to 'MoNK' on USa...that's when I would start to get annoyed. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: We've run out of bars in Los Angeles...
On Nov 14, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Kevin M. wrote: I've seen the same bar in Flash Forward and NCIS: LA in the last two weeks. Does either series actually film in LA, or have they found a Canadian bar with saloon doors that somebody somewhere thinks might look like an LA backstreets establishment? I actually know of one bar in the L.A. area with saloon doors: Tinhorn Flats, on the mean streets of Burbank (specifically, Magnolia near Buena Vista). -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [adult swim] Stoner Series promos
On Nov 14, 2009, at 9:03 PM, M-D November wrote: I don't know how many members of the group are regular viewers of programming on [adult swim], but...am I the only one who noticed the 10-second bumps (aired AFTER the traditional bumps) that introduced programming as [adult swim] Stoner Series? Insert my usual rant about using regular typography to attempt to replicate a logo. Yes, I'm a regular Adult Swim viewer, of Titan Maximum and The Venture Brothers at present. I noticed those bumps last Sunday but didn't think much of them, beyond...it's nice of them to finally come up with a fancy graphic acknowledging their core audience. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Report: Hulu will not go pay-only
On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Tom Wolper wrote: The earlier remarks on Hulu's pay plans came from News Corp.’s Deputy Chairman, the alliteratively named Chase Carey, who said at a conference last month that Hulu might have to turn to a subscription model to start pulling in the dough. Chase Carey is the former CEO of DirecTV, so he is of course very familiar with the subscription model -- but not with the paying for something that used to be free model. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Disney to start filming porn
Kevin M. wrote: Well, what the article says is that Disney is going to erect (word intentional) a studio complex in the Valley. And since we all know the Valley is the porn producing capital of the world, Disney must be getting into porn. As the article says, Disney's new studio complex will be in the Santa Clarita Valley, which is a valley, not The Valley (i.e., the San Fernando Valley). Disney's current studio complex IS in The Valley, so they've apparently been making porn all this years. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Atlanta TV station outsources sports
colonial wrote: WGCL, the low-rated CBS affiliate in Atlanta (originally owned by Pat Robertson, now run by Meredith) is outsourcing all local and national sports coverage (including weekend college football shows) to WQXI, a sports radio station in the city... This may have been in the works for a while -- a friend of mine, who was a sports producer/fill-in anchor at WGCL, was laid off a couple months ago. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Naughty Office is the place...
Terry Knab wrote: He's been dealt with. I banned him personally =) Wait, this isn't the Ricky Gervais Golden Globes thread? -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Cold Case on ice
On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:58 AM, JW wrote: CBS had the doubleheader this week. It wasn't bonus coverage when CBS switched everyone from Pats-Titans to Jets-Bills. Maybe we're disagreeing on the definition of bonus coverage; I'm using it to mean a game that the network switches to after the original game is over (with James Brown saying And now here's bonus coverage of the Jets and Bills). For whatever reason, CBS stayed with the Pats-Titans game all the way to the end, then switched to New York and Buffalo. True bonus coverage is when, following the conclusion of a game, the network switches its audience to another game although they may be required to cut off the game for that audience at some point (usually at 4:15) for contractual reasons -- which happens when that network is the singleheader network that week. Hence the specific use of the word bonus. Sometimes they'll switch to a postgame show instead. As far as I know, because the network won't have to cut off the game for anyone, it doesn't count as bonus coverage when what began as the second game of a doubleheader concludes and that audience is taken to a different second game which is still under way. I don't remember having heard the phrase bonus coverage used in that situation in the past -- however, I have to admit that it's been a while since I've actually seen such a switch take place. I've had Sunday Ticket on DirecTV for a few years now, so I've usually made the switch before the network gets around to doing it. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Cold Case on ice
On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:06 AM, JW wrote: Bonus coverage would only apply to 4:05 games, i.e., late games on the network that doesn't have the doubleheader. No. When the Pats-Titans primary national game ended Sunday, CBS switched to the end of Jets-Bills, which ran until 8:15. Had it gone another ten minutes... Please reread my quote. CBS had the doubleheader this week. It wasn't bonus coverage when CBS switched everyone from Pats-Titans to Jets-Bills. In the '70s, on weeks where CBS' single game was early, I'd turn on my affiliate at 7:00 to see 60 Minutes, and they'd join the end of their late national game. If it was a singleheader week, then it wasn't a national game. Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but in the '80s, I only remember seeing CBS switch FROM local programming TO football (as opposed to 60 Minutes) at 7:00 when... 1. It was a doubleheader week for CBS. 2. My local CBS affiliate wasn't showing a game at 4:00. I was in Tampa, so this happened in CBS doubleheader weeks when the Bucs played a 1:00 home game against an NFC opponent. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Palin book tour begins on...
On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: ...Oprah, Nov. 16th. (We all know who she backed in the election.) And probably because I've been watching the Monty Python documentary this week on IFC, my first thought when I saw this subject line was, Oh, Michael Palin has another travel book out? I think I'd rather live in my world. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Cold Case on ice
JW wrote: Really obscure question (all times eastern) - when the network without the doubleheader switches to the end of a second 1:00 game (bonus coverage), they have to drop it at 4:15 so the doubleheader network has exclusivity. If bonus coverage of a 4:15 game ran past 8:20, would the network have to drop it so NBC can be exclusive? Bonus coverage would only apply to 4:05 games, i.e., late games on the network that doesn't have the doubleheader. However, I don't believe this would come up, because I don't think either CBS or Fox normally offers bonus coverage in the situation where they have more than one late game in a non-doubleheader week -- once a game ends, CBS will switch that audience to 60 Minutes if it's after 7:00, and Fox will switch to their postgame show, or whatever animated show is being rerun at 7:30, or The Simpsons at 8:00. And, of course, it would be an incredibly unusual event to have two 4:05 games still under way at 8:20 anyway. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Fox DC anchors may have to be athletes
On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: WTTG, per Paul Farhi at the WaPo, intends to train its newscasters to operate prompters using a series of hand levers and foot pedals, all while they're reading the news as it scrolls by... A series of hand levers and foot pedals? An actual technician can operate a prompter with exactly one control, in the form of a handheld dial: stop in the middle, forward to the right, back to the left, variable speed according to how far the dial is turned. In the summer of 1993, I worked as the script coordinator and prompter operator for the hourlong 10:00 newscast on then-independent WTOG in the Tampa Bay area. (It's now a CW affiliate, and no longer has a news department.) I was an unpaid college intern, which shows you how important they felt the prompter operator job was. It was an old- timey prompter, with a camera aimed at a conveyor belt that carried the paper scripts along. Newfangled prompters have the same kind of control -- it's just hooked up to a computer instead of that ridiculous contraption. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Wrap: Comcast is in Negotiations to Buy NBC
On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: Comcast, the nation’s leading provider of cable, entertainment and communications products and services, is in talks to buy the entertainment giant NBC-Universal from General Electric, according to knowledgeable individuals. Looks like a few more networks are going to be dropped from DirecTV soon! -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Quick note to NCIS: LA producers
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: Kevin M., in part: Camp Pendleton is to the south of Los Angeles. People in Los Angeles do not drive up to it on the weekends; they drive down to it. From what I've found, part of the base is at noticeable altitude, which would make it up compared to most of the LA Basin... Would you describe yourself as driving up to Pittsburgh? Parts of it are at a noticeable altitude. That's not even that apt of a comparison, since you'd have to cross a couple of mountain ranges to get to Pittsburgh. There's no noticeable change in elevation between L.A. and the Camp Pendleton area on Interstate 5. I'm not sure if I would even generalize people in Los Angeles as driving to Camp Pendleton for a fun weekend jaunt, it being a military base. San Onofre, the state beach/recreation area near Camp Pendleton, I could believe. (Disclaimer: I didn't see NCIS: LA.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Colbert running long
David Bruggeman wrote: The problem I had then seems to have gone away. This was a distinct overrun that I hadn't seen all week. Could just be my local provider. It's hard for a local provider to screw with the timing of a show on a national cable network. The overrun was more noticeable last night because the Flaming Lips' performance meant that the final segment was more than just Colbert's good night. Someone who watches both shows live and turns the TV off after the Colbert Report interview might not even notice the overrun on a night when the show is regularly formatted. The DirecTV DVR automatically pads everything 30 seconds at the beginning and 90 seconds at the end if it's able (and it's always able with two consecutive recordings on the same channel). I used to always get the entire Colbert Report cold open at the end of the Daily Show recording, but not anymore -- it now cuts off in the middle of the cold open, or occasionally even earlier, during the Daily Show closing credits. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Sports Commentators Who Sing!
Joe Hass wrote: Each song last 7.5 minutes: the additional time is McCarver breaking down the lyrics of each song, despite the obviousness of a lyrics. See, when he talks about how long it took to bake the cake, he's really saying that that was a cake that he put a lot of time into. It's a cake that took a long time to bake, and now it's been left in the rain, and he's lost all the work he put into it--all that time it took to bake--because it's been left out in the rain, where most people wouldn't leave a cake, since cakes take so long to bake. (Written by a friend, who alerted me to the Tim McCarver CD about 30 minutes before this list did.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno Redux
Pollak, Melissa F. wrote: The set is much better looking than Conan's. On the latter, when Andy's on camera, the view of the audience behind him couldn't be more visually unappealing. I disagree, on nights when there are good-looking ladies sitting back there. (I'm surprised the pages don't do the seating that way every time -- or maybe there are just nights when they're making the best of a bad situation because no particularly attractive tourists showed up.) Actually, it's just another reason Andy needs to be on the couch as much as possible, although that wouldn't help the situation during the monologue. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL news - unconfirmed
On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Dave Sikula wrote: First I'd heard of it. Was Pardo doing anything other than staying up until 11:30 on Saturdays? No, since he was officially retired from NBC -- SNL was flying him in from his home in Arizona every week when there was a new show. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Classic Jeopardy! this week
On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:49 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: A question for whomever here serves as the Jeopardy! equivalent of Donz - did they goose the audience response back in the day, or are they just more subtle about it now. There are audible gasps when players give an incorrect question. The middle contestant seemed to be the only one getting the gasps -- I think she had some friends in the audience. These days there's not much to goose, even if they wanted to: there's generally no reaction whatsoever from the audience during the game, except on the Daily Doubles and when a player runs a category. (Note, in case it wasn't obvious: tonight's rerun had the contestant interview segment cut out, in addition to the plugs for the prizes given to the runners-up, obviously to make room for Alex's modern-day segments.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Fire threatens LA TV towers
Kevin M. wrote: As with all SoCal brushfires, I hope no lives are lost, but if the Mt Wilson antennae go up in flames, nothing of value would be lost. Cable and satellite providers get most of the L.A. TV signals via means other than the over-the-air broadcasts, so it wouldn't be too big of a deal for those of us who pay for our TV. The FM radio stations that are also on the Mt. Wilson transmitters, on the other hand... -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: TDS/CR block starting early?
On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:44 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: While on late night topics, how long has Fallon been giving his audience the cue cards of his really botched jokes? Is there any chance he copped that from anybody besides Dave? Conan used to do that once in a blue moon on Late Night. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Andy Dick to perform in Orange County
On Aug 6, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Kevin M. wrote: I am so glad that I no longer live in Orange County. Shocked that he played the Improv in Irvine... that's Jon Lovitz territory. Not anymore -- he has his own comedy club on the Universal Citywalk, where it appears he's the regular Wednesday night act. http://www.thejonlovitzcomedyclub.com/ -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Wayne Brady hosts pilot of Let's Make a Deal
Tom Wolper wrote: Light ends its run Sept. 18 with Price Is Right reruns filling its time slot until the Deal debut on Oct. 5. It'll be interesting to see how many CBS affiliates that currently have Guiding Light in an afternoon slot switch Let's Make a Deal to the morning (a fair number of affiliates already have GL in a morning slot, and presumably, they'll keep LMAD there). -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Nickelodeon's famous orange ... thing: 1984-2009...
On Jul 30, 2009, at 6:42 PM, M-D November wrote: It's interesting you should say that - I was wracking my brain earlier trying to figure out when, back in the 'glory days' of the network, the logo was actually presented as an orange 'splat'. In this compilation of You Can't Do That on Television bumpers... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezr60asDeXQ ...the third one (1985) has a splat-esque version of the logo. Although the first one, labeled as 1986, is much more familiar to me -- I seem to recall them using those bumpers, with that flask version of the logo, all the way until YCDToT left the network. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: NotTV: Do You, Uh, Bing?
Tom Wolper wrote: Yahoo's brand name is too powerful to go away. If anything, there will be something like a powered by Bing note next to a Yahoo search box. Just as, for much of the early '00s, Yahoo! search was powered by Google, before they decided to bring it in-house. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: 25 Years Ago today...
I saw the opening ceremonies of the 1984 Olympics the next day, on tape-delay on Swedish television, at the tail end of a family vacation in Europe. As I recall, literally all the Swedish announcer said was the names of the countries as each delegation marched in, and he only broke out of a monotone for Sverige. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Katie Couric is the most trusted newscaster in Iowa?
On Jul 23, 12:00 am, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote: With the passing of Walter Cronkite, Time commissioned an internet poll asking who people today trusted the most for news. Surprising or not, Jon Stewart wins the plurarity of the internet vote (9409 folks voted total), and from the looks of it, the internet electoral college as well. What I find interesting is that somehow Couric wins Iowa. Does not appear to be due to the strength of CBS affiliates in Iowa, as was opined here earlier. Appears to be due to pranksters. Here's a graphic compiling some other recent Time internet polls (hopefully this link works): http://imgur.com/o7Uu9.png -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Les Lye, actor and broadcaster, dies
On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Trevor Trevor wrote: Actor Les (Leslie) Earnest Lye, best known for the 1979 hit children's program You Can't Do That on Television, died Tuesday in Ottawa. He was 84. This must be the introduction to the opposite sketches...? (Alternatively: What is the world going to do without him? I don't kn--) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: BBC America HD: not!
On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:41 PM, sallymeow wrote: So apparently BBCA has been lying to us all and hasn't given the hi- def feed to anyone? No cable, no satellite, no whatever you call ATT. Not a lie -- surely they're giving the HD feed to anyone with whom they've completed successful negotiations for the rights to carry it. However, that doesn't seem to be any of the major cable or satellite operators. Obviously, we don't know exactly how much negotiation has been going on. It's possible there was a lot, but they couldn't get the deals done (they wanted too much money, nobody has spare channel space at this point, etc.)...and it's possible there has been very little up to this point and they're counting on an avalanche of furious calls to TV providers starting today to give them a better starting point for negotiations. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: CBS News will retire Cronkite's VO opening
On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: The New York Times‘ Brian Stelter reported via Twitter last night that the voiceover would be retired, “probably immediately”; Mediaite confirmed early this morning that the voiceover will not be used on further broadcasts. Katie indicated as much at the beginning of last night's West Coast version of CBS Evening News; after the VO, she began the obituary coverage with words to the effect of, His voice introducing this broadcast for the final time, Walter Cronkite... -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [NotTV]Continental sat-radio coverage
On Jun 30, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Brad Beam wrote: The directions say that all the car rentals at MSP are in a garage, so reception will most likely be non-existent until we get outside. Sirius/XM has ground-based repeaters in big cities, so you may well get reception in the garage. If there's no reception, though, you should still be able to check whether or not you can tune to the various channels on the SAT band on the car radio. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [NotTV]Continental sat-radio coverage
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Brad Beam wrote: So for those who know, these questions: *Will XM-Sirius (US) convert once I cross the border, or are the two wholly incompatible? *Is this something I can prepare for with National, or will I find myself tuning in CBC Radio One and 2 instead? You will get exactly the same satellite radio signals north of the border that you do south of the border. I actually am a semi-frequent National renter, so I can report the following: National doesn't pay for the XM/Sirius subscription, so the only way you'll have it is if the car was equipped for satellite radio in the first place, and is new enough to still be in the free trial period. As far as I know, there's no way to guarantee it with National (unlike some other rental car companies, where you can guarantee it at an extra cost). Now, since you're starting off from Minneapolis -- the MSP airport location should be big enough to have the Emerald Aisle setup, which means you'll be able to try out any car sitting on the midsize aisle (or whichever type of car you've reserved), to see if it has the satellite radio subscription still active. Just be prepared to drag your luggage around from car to car if necessary, and perhaps fighting off other people who are doing the same thing. If you can't find anything you like, you can try putting on your best puppy-dog-eyes face, finding a National employee, and asking, Uh, is there anything else ready to come out of the car wash? By the way, don't be fooled -- even if the subscription's not active, a couple of emergency/information channels will still be available on the radio, so make sure you can get actual music/talk programming before you drive off. (And by the way -- there ARE radio stations other than the CBC in Canada!) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [NotTV]Continental sat-radio coverage
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Brad Beam wrote: So for those who know, these questions: *Will XM-Sirius (US) convert once I cross the border, or are the two wholly incompatible? *Is this something I can prepare for with National, or will I find myself tuning in CBC Radio One and 2 instead? You will get exactly the same satellite radio signals north of the border that you do south of the border. I actually am a semi-frequent National renter, so I can report the following: National doesn't pay for the XM/Sirius subscription, so the only way you'll have it is if the car was equipped for satellite radio in the first place, and is new enough to still be in the free trial period. As far as I know, there's no way to guarantee it with National (unlike some other rental car companies, where you can guarantee it at an extra cost). Now, since you're starting off from Minneapolis -- the MSP airport location should be big enough to have the Emerald Aisle setup, which means you'll be able to try out any car sitting on the midsize aisle (or whichever type of car you've reserved), to see if it has the satellite radio subscription still active. Just be prepared to drag your luggage around from car to car if necessary, and perhaps fighting off other people who are doing the same thing. If you can't find anything you like, you can try putting on your best puppy-dog-eyes face, finding a National employee, and asking, Uh, is there anything else ready to come out of the car wash? By the way, don't be fooled -- even if the subscription's not active, a couple of emergency/information channels will still be available on the radio, so make sure you can get actual music/talk programming before you drive off. Incidentally, this is something I tend to forget about, given how old my personal car is: there's an extremely good chance that whatever car you get will have an auxiliary input jack, so you can bring, and easily use, an iPod or similar device if you're worried about not having satellite radio. If it's not right on the faceplate of the radio, try inside the center console or the glove compartment. (It'll almost definitely be a 1/8-inch stereo plug -- you'd have to get a serious upgrade from National to wind up with a car that has a USB input.) And by the way -- there ARE radio stations other than the CBC in Canada! -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [NotTV]Continental sat-radio coverage
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Brad Beam wrote: So for those who know, these questions: *Will XM-Sirius (US) convert once I cross the border, or are the two wholly incompatible? *Is this something I can prepare for with National, or will I find myself tuning in CBC Radio One and 2 instead? You will get exactly the same satellite radio signals north of the border that you do south of the border. I actually am a semi-frequent National renter, so I can report the following: National doesn't pay for the XM/Sirius subscription, so the only way you'll have it is if the car was equipped for satellite radio in the first place, and is new enough to still be in the free trial period. As far as I know, there's no way to guarantee it with National (unlike some other rental car companies, where you can guarantee it at an extra cost). Now, since you're starting off from Minneapolis -- the MSP airport location should be big enough to have the Emerald Aisle setup, which means you'll be able to try out any car sitting on the midsize aisle (or whichever type of car you've reserved), to see if it has the satellite radio subscription still active. Just be prepared to drag your luggage around from car to car if necessary, and perhaps fighting off other people who are doing the same thing. If you can't find anything you like, you can try putting on your best puppy-dog-eyes face, finding a National employee, and asking, Uh, is there anything else ready to come out of the car wash? By the way, don't be fooled -- even if the subscription's not active, a couple of emergency/information channels will still be available on the radio, so make sure you can get actual music/talk programming before you drive off. Incidentally, this is something I tend to forget about, given how old my personal car is: there's an extremely good chance that whatever car you get will have an auxiliary input jack, so you can bring, and easily use, an iPod or similar device if you're worried about not having satellite radio. If it's not right on the faceplate of the radio, try inside the center console or the glove compartment. (It'll almost definitely be a 1/8-inch stereo plug -- you'd have to get a serious upgrade from National to wind up with a car that has a USB input.) And by the way -- there ARE radio stations other than the CBC in Canada! -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Observations on Australian TV
On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Mark J. wrote: SBS runs a good amount of foreign-language programming, including during the day unsubtitled foreign newscasts. For years after they started running ads, the programing was uninterrupted and the ads ran between programs, similar to some state-owned European channels. In the last couple of years, in order to compete with seamless presentation on the commercial nets and advertisers complaining that people changed channels before their ads came on, they had to start interrupting the programs with ads. I assume that if they're doing seamless, that credits are either squeezed back or genericed (and I assume that the commercial networks are doing the same thing). Actually, I was pleasantly surprised -- only squeezed-back credits I saw were, if I recall correctly, on The Simpsons on Ten. Don't remember seeing any seamless transitions, not even between The Daily Show and The Colbert Report; there was always a commercial break. Kind of a schizophrenic lineup on SBS: foreign newscasts (including The Newshour with Jim Lehrer), documentaries about aborigines, Corner Gas, South Park, and Flight of the Conchords. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Observations on Australian TV
G'day, mates. Got back today from a few days in Sydney and Melbourne. My hotel rooms were equipped with TVs. Some TV-related notes I scrawled while I wasn't out developing giant blisters on my feet. Didn't feel I could make this coherent enough for a blog post (and I may well be stating the obvious with some of this anyway): * The three fully commercial over-the-air networks are named Seven, Nine, and Ten, because those are their channel numbers in Sydney. Imagine if CBS were named Two. * Fully commercial because the other two over-the-air networks are government-funded: the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (no commercials) and SBS (has commercials). Both of these have digital secondary channels, which means the primary channels have recently become known as ABC 1 and SBS One. * Picking up on the gap in the Seven, Nine, Ten sequence is a cable channel named Fox 8. (Neither hotel I stayed in had it on Channel 8.) * There are plenty of American shows available, on both over-the-air and cable channels -- some run on one of each, even simultaneously (The Simpsons airs weeknights at 5:55 on Fox 8 and 6:00 on Ten). * Some shows air very shortly after they air in the U.S.: for example, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Conan O'Brien, and Jimmy Fallon all air weeknights on The Comedy Channel, and David Letterman airs on Ten, all only a few hours after their American broadcast (because of the time zones, it's the next day). * Some shows are months or even years behind. Days of Our Lives, The Bold and the Beautiful, and The Young and the Restless all air months behind -- the TV magazine I picked up has a spoilery Direct from the U.S. section that gives the current American goings-on for all three shows. * Coming out of commercial breaks back into the show, 5-second title graphic bumpers are fairly common. * TV rating levels are G, PG, M, MA-15+, and AV-15+ (the latter represents a special advisory for violence). That's almost identical to the Australian government's movie/video game rating system (which don't have AV-15+, and movies have an additional R-18+ classification). * And speaking of which, the equivalent of this film is not yet rated is this film has advertising approval; check the classification closer to the release date. Fortunately, for movie trailers on TV, it only has to run as a graphic at the bottom of the screen, not as an announcement. * June 30 is the end of financial year, as mentioned in plenty of commercials; similarly, some retailers were running stocktake sales (i.e., inventory clearance). * Australia does have 1-800 phone numbers, but more common in commercials are 13 numbers, which are caller pays local rate regardless of distance and can apparently be set up to connect to the caller's closest location, e.g., call 13 JENNY for your nearest Jenny Craig weight loss center. * Australian Deal or No Deal is much, much, much, much, much more tolerable than the American version. I suspect all the game show fans on this list already knew this. * The most Australian thing I saw was the discussion on Nine's morning show Today of the forthcoming new variety of Vegemite, which contains butter and cream cheese, for easier spreading. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Screen time - The death of conventional TV watching may be greatly exaggerated
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:33 AM, Jon Delfin wrote: I know someone who had a TiVo before she had cable (until six months ago), so it's not unreasonable to assume it would work with a digital antenna in place of standard rabbit ears. Standard rabbit ears CAN be a digital antenna. That's what I have hooked up to the tuner I have connected to my computer. Yes, the high-definition standalone TiVo boxes contain digital tuners and can work with antenna reception only. However, since there's a fairly high monthly service fee involved, TIVo may not appeal to many of those whose households are antenna-only. EchoStar (Dish Network) was supposed to have combination digital converters/simple DVRs for antenna-only users, but I can't find anyplace that's actually offering them for sale, only sites that mention the announcement of the product -- they may have been victims of the TiVo/EchoStar lawsuit. I suspect that anyone who's really serious about a DVR for antenna TV, but not serious enough to pay for TiVo, is using some sort of PC solution. That's what I have on this computer, although I only use it as a backup, since I have a DirecTV HD DVR on my actual TV. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: OT: Off with the countdowns?
On Jun 7, 2009, at 11:56 AM, K.M. Richards wrote: 80s version airs on the 80s on 8 channel Sunday mornings 7-11: http://www.xmradio.com/onxm/channelbio.xmc?ch=8 I know the 70s version airs on the 70s on 7 channel as well, as I have heard it within the past few weeks, but I can't find a link on the website that gives the time. '70s version should be Saturdays at the same time. Until recently, the start time for both was noon Eastern...the new time is not particularly good for those of us on the West Coast. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: NWS to Weather Guys: No Such Thing as a 'Monsoon Alert'
Bob in Jersey wrote: Mark J.: It's a weather season, not a storm, and the Las Vegas Weather Service office told the local weathermen something that is obviously not covered in the Mississippi State University mail-order TV metereology course: So go tell the guy who wrote the following for Wiki: As monsoons have become better understood, the term monsoon has been broadened to include almost all of the phenomena associated with the annual weather cycle within the tropical and subtropical land regions of the earth. That makes the NWS's complaint even more appropriate. The local weather folks should be providing specific information to the viewing/listening public by using specific language for the warnings (thunderstorm, flash flood, tornado, etc.), rather than an overly broad climatological term like monsoon. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Is Conan Getting Geezer-ly on Twitter?
On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Kevin M. wrote: I noticed they dropped the commercial break between the musical guest and the goodnights... did Jimmy Fallon's ratings drop that dramatically on Monday and Tuesday? I don't think it had anything specific to do with Jimmy's ratings. After years of commercial break consistency, they started mixing things up in the past year or so on Conan's Late Night -- sometimes there was a commercial right after the monologue, sometimes not; sometimes there was a commercial break after the musical guest, sometimes not. Since the same producers are now working on Tonight, I guess that philosophy has carried over. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: 100 Universal City Plaza
dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, I'd guess that the remote with Conan driving his Taurus was taped at his actual house, which looked to be somewhere in the Valley. Brentwood, actually: http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-rew-hotprop1mar02,0,6236760.story -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: ABC's new sked: Kelsey Grammer, Courteney Cox, Patricia Heaton, Ed O'Neill and maybe Julia Louis-Dreyfus? Christina Applegate canceled
On May 20, 2009, at 3:28 PM, stan wrote: Could be that they just didn't want to confuse DVRs all over the USA. The owners of those DVRs, maybe, but the DVRs themselves can deal with two shows with the same title just fine, assuming they get the correct listings data from either Tribune Media Services or TV Guide. The DVR doesn't care about the actual show title; it only cares about an internal ID number assigned by whichever listings service it uses. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's new schedule: Where's 30 Rock
On May 19, 2009, at 7:07 PM, televisiongirl wrote: I think you could keep Amy Poelher if they bothered to make it funny. I'm just watching for cameos by my apartment building, which is across the street from the pit. Very visible in last week's episode -- because it was night, you couldn't see the Spanish tile roof that would have belied its non-Indiana location. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: FOX: No thanks, Obama
On Apr 28, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: Just hunting and pecking, I did find that Wichita Falls, TX and Yuma, AZ don't do news post-PT. Ditto for Tallahassee, Florida, where I was this past weekend -- neither the Fox nor NBC affiliates there have local news. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: I really hate network TV
On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Mark J. wrote: ...violate the privacy... Sheesh...some loaded words there. I can't speak to the cable and satellite operators, but in my experience, TiVo has always been forthcoming about their data collection, and does offer the ability to opt out -- and various third parties (i.e., hacker types) have verified both the veracity of TiVo's claims about the data that's being sent back, and the fact that opting out really does opt someone out. Disclaimer: I owned a TiVo back when they first started the data collection, but haven't had one for over a year, so the attention I've paid to this topic is not quite as close as it once was. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Sunday Night Football's 2009-10 sked : Since some people care
On Apr 20, 2009, at 1:16 AM, JW wrote: This is the same league that scheduled January's conference championships so that the game in Phoenix was played before the one in Pittsburgh, ignoring time zones and weather. The NFL didn't even have a chance to ignore time zones and weather in this case. The scheduling decision had been made years earlier, when they started scheduling one of the conference championship games for a prime-time slot, and stuck to a strict rotation so that CBS and Fox would get an equal number of prime-time championship games. For the 2008 season, it was CBS's turn to have the AFC championship in prime time, period. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Did He Actually Say This?
Mark J. wrote: So I'm on the El last night... I'm pretty sure you were on the 'L', unless you moved to New York and didn't tell us. As I suspected, there was one camera shot on Parks and Recreation that almost got my apartment building into the frame, but not quite. It's a building that definitely doesn't look like it would be in Indiana, with a Spanish tile roof, stucco balconies, and a big banner on the parking gate that has an 818 area code phone number on it. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Parks and Recreation filming photos
The construction pit seen in Parks and Recreation, premiering tonight, was dug out of a vacant lot in Van Nuys, across the street from my apartment; there have been five or six filming days there over the past couple of months. Unfortunately, I don't have a very good view of the action from my apartment -- it's not high enough to see into the actual pit very well, and there are some trees partially blocking things. But I have a set of photos anyway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/trainman/sets/72157614781887315/ -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: weird close caption characters
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Wrecks wrote: Last night at the end of the Smallville episode Eternal, a bunch of weird close caption characters came across the screen. Is this normal? I've never seen this before. It's normal in one sense, but it's not normal that the home viewer would see it. Here are the key pieces of the puzzle: 00:58:54 MAINT. TESTING PC-15 F1 00:58:58 CBS CAPTION TEST !!! Someone must have hit the wrong button and put the closed-captioning encoder that was handling Smallville into self-test mode. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Wanda Sykes Replacing 'MADtv' on Fox Sat. Late Night
On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Jon Delfin wrote: It broadcasts nationally via a chain of local affiliates. We certainly do consider it a network, much more so than cable channels like HBO and AMC, which are often mislabeled as such. But we don't consider it an acronym, which is why we don't put its name in all caps. But their logo looks like FOX, not Fox! That's the same reason at least half the references on the Internet to a certain Cartoon Network programming block write it as [adult swim]. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Muppet Show to Return To TV After 27 Years
Peter wrote: Finally something interesting on television! I'll believe it when I actually see it. Because there was supposed to be a Muppet series on Fox circa 2002... http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2002/030702.shtml And America's Next Muppet on ABC in the summer of 2006... http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2005/090505.shtml And a Muppet mockumentary series circa 2007... http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2007/011307.shtml Just to name the first three abortive Muppet TV show projects I found after a quick search. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Conan tours the flyovers
On Feb 20, 2009, at 10:45 PM, stan wrote: This was recorded last week in Charlotte, NC: http://www.wcnc.com/video/index.html?nvid=334232shu=1 In the last couple of months, he had remote bits on the show recorded in Detroit and Tampa, and mentioned the cooperation of the affiliates there. I'd assumed he was doing a please don't get any crazy ideas about running syndicated programming at 11:35 tour, especially since Detroit was one of the two affiliates that was significantly delaying the Late Night broadcast in favor of other stuff in the mid-1990s. But that doesn't explain Charlotte, since there's probably no danger of WCNC delaying The Tonight Show, it being an NBC OO. Maybe Conan was flying U.S. Airways and had a layover. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Conan tours the flyovers
On Feb 21, 2009, at 5:24 PM, stan wrote: WCNC is owned by Belo Corp, it's not an OO. So it could be a don't put me after CSI reruns tour. My mistake...didn't they used to be an OO? Back in the NBC News Channel days, when the Nightside newscast was produced in Charlotte? It's hard to keep track these days. It was much easier back when the networks could only own five stations each. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: PaleyFest details
On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Pollak, Melissa F. wrote: Anyone know if the event will be available online? They haven't been in the past -- I would seriously doubt it. Eventually, the panel discussions will be available to view at the Paley Center locations in L.A. and N.Y., and some of them may show up as DVD special features. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: [audience laughter]
Adam Bowie wrote: It seems pointless somebody else re-transcribing the dialogue when it's already been done in the Britain. The major issue: it's the BROADCAST that was originally captioned/subtitled, but the broadcast is not what's being sold overseas. Issue #2: even if the producers happen to have access to the broadcast captions, they don't stay intact anyway when the show is converted between PAL and NTSC. Even given a copy of the original computer file of the captions, it would take some work to convert -- each caption would have to be re-timed to account for the difference between 25 frames per second and 29.97 frames per second. Issue #3: U.K. subtitling conventions are, as I understand it, quite a bit different from U.S. captioning conventions (a couple of examples: U.S. captions are now pretty much verbatim, but I'm told that U.K. subtitles are usually edited to keep to a relatively low reading rate; U.K. subtitles identify different characters by using different colors, which is unheard of in the U.S.). -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Our Kevin Saves SNL
On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:06 PM, PGage wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote: Looked to me like KNBC cut away to their last block of local commercials too soon, thus interrupting the second hot-air balloon ad. Then once that block of commercials finished, they went back early to the national feed, which was covering the local break with the Baldwin/Godfather bumper. That is probably a better description of what happened than what I gave - but if it is the explanation too, then KNTV made the same mistake. Sounds like NBC gave their West Coast stations the wrong time for the start of that commercial break -- I assume KNBC and KNTV, both owned by NBC, are using the same kind of automation procedures to drop the local commercials into late-night programming. (Or they might even be running out of the same master control room -- I believe KNBC and KNSD in San Diego share master control facilities, but I'm not sure exactly how much NBC has consolidated things.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Tonight Show one last time...
Kevin M. wrote: He may stay in Burbank, specifically the portion colloquially known as Universal City... Point of order: Universal City is in the city of Los Angeles, not in the city of Burbank. (As one takes Barham Boulevard, the direct route from NBC to Universal Studios, the city limits are just past Warner Bros. and the Smoke House restaurant, at the concrete ditch -- I mean the L.A. River.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Buck starts here
On Feb 6, 2009, at 8:01 PM, televisiongirl wrote: Honestly, that Randy Moss call was the only time he ever showed any emotion. Otherwise, he's duller than dishwater. It's slightly more fun if you know that he'll slip random phrases into his broadcasts, in a reasonably seamless manner, that have been suggested by others. During Game 1 of the World Series, he called Tim McCarver buddy boy at one point, at the request of Conan O'Brien. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Super Bowl
Jon Delfin wrote: One thing NBC did (actually, didn't do) that drove me bats all night: The on-screen information bar didn't indicate where the ball was. 2nd and 7 from where? I recall both NBC and CBS using such graphics (2nd and 7/Ball on the Steelers' 40 Yard Line) back in the '80s, NBC on a more consistent basis than CBS. But I don't think I've seen it regularly on any network for at least 20 years -- these days, similar graphics only appear on games being played in the snow. My perception is that Drew Esocoff doesn't seem to have the camera zoom out for the beginning of the play as far as the various directors for CBS and Fox, which makes it less likely that there's a field and/or sideline yard marker on screen, thus causing part of your problem. (Of course, watching in HD makes a yard marker spotting much more likely.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL not going to phone it in tomorrow night...
On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:54 AM, PGage wrote: I think we have t conclude that he is embarrassed about PP2 and embarrassed to be using his friends and connections to SNL to pimp it (I don't think he even mentioned the name of the film). Just for the record, he did mention the name, at the very end of his monologue -- and then the very first commercial was for said film, followed by the first of the Pepsi commercials based on the MacGruder sketches (which got me to stop fast-forwarding and watch, so they did their job perfectly). -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL not going to phone it in tomorrow night...
On Feb 1, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Brad Beam wrote: I wonder if that re-appearance during the second half counts as: (1)A network ad (2)A full-cost Pepsi ad (3)A discount-rate Pepsi ad I was watching the Super Bowl at the home of friends who are still on SD. The graphics were cut off on the edge of the screen on the MacGruber ad, and suddenly I realized -- ohhh, their cable company is providing NBC in SD by center-cutting the digital signal of the affiliate. It was more noticeable on The Office, where a lot of characters were halfway off the screen while they were talking. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Way OT: California Question
On Jan 24, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Brad Beam wrote: And it's a good thing you didn't head west on I-70 through Maryland: Exit 18 is MD 68, while 70's last Maryland exit is the eastern end of I-68. Some states are better than others about not letting route numbers overlap. I've driven between the DC area and Pittsburgh a couple times in my life, and as I recall, there's at least one sign approaching the Maryland 68 exit that specifically says This is not Interstate 68! Just as with I-95, I-70 is technically discontinuous and it's all Pennsylvania's fault: there's not a direct interchange to I-70 at its east end of its being multiplexed with the Pennsylvania Turnpike; to continue on I-70 at that point, one has to go through two traffic lights (and pass a myriad of fast-food joints, motels, and gas stations) in the town of Breezewood. ObTVorNotTV: The DuMont network had three owned-and-operated stations: WABD in New York, WTTG in Washington, and WDTV in Pittsburgh. WDTV was the most successful of the three -- it helped that it was the only TV station in town. In 1954, DuMont sold it off to Westinghouse to raise cash, but ended up going out of business anyway within a year or two. Westinghouse changed the call letters to KDKA-TV and the affiliation to CBS. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Way OT: California Question
On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:21 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: There is also the numbering system used in towns around Salt Lake City and into southern Idaho. Some major streets close to the main temple (or the first temple established) are named by their distance from the temple. So you can be at 540 West 400 South, with the second part of that being the street name. Way to easy to get turned about, at least for me. It's not really that much different than cities where the addresses are based on distances from the river, or from the train tracks, or from an intersection that someone 150 years ago decided was the center of town. 540 West 400 South translates to 540 W. 4th Street South or 540 4th Street SW in various non-Mormon locales. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Way OT: California Question
On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Brad Beam wrote: From Washington to New York, you'd get on 295 (or 95, either one) up to Baltimore, take 895 to bypass downtown -- Baltimore's beltway (695) swings too far off-course -- and then stay on 95 the rest of the way toward New York. Can't take I-95 directly all the way to New York. It goes through Philadelphia, over the Delaware River into New Jersey, and ends near Trenton where it intersects the northern end of the New Jersey I-295. Then the I-95 route number picks up again on the New Jersey Turnpike at Exit 6 (which, you may notice, is well south of I-95's end point near Trenton). Yes, it's a bizarre situation, and everyone going all the way through New Jersey on the Turnpike just kind of pretends it's I-95 all the way. Two reasons it's like this: I-95 ends north of Trenton because it was originally supposed to be extended north on an alignment running near U.S. 1, paralleling the Turnpike, but that project was canceled decades ago. And the I-95 numbering extends that far south on the Turnpike because New Jersey was expecting Pennsylvania to build an interchange between I-95 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and then the I-95 number would be assigned to what's now I-276, which is what connects to the NJ Turnpike at Exit 6. But that new interchange has been on hold for over 20 years. Of course, all this is moot if the NJ Turnpike is closed due to a suspected bomb, which is what prompted this thread in the first place, I thought. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC Only 90% Sold on Super Bowl
Joe Coughlin wrote: Of the four teams that could gain a Super Bowl berth this weekend -- the Philadelphia Eagles, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Arizona Cardinals and the Baltimore Ravens -- none hails from a major market and only the Steelers have a strong Super Bowl history and a brand that extends to the broader nation, buyers and sports-marketing experts noted. How are the Eagles not a major market team? Isn't Philly still the number four media market? As far as I've been able to tell over the years: especially as used in conjunction with sports teams, the phrase major market is code for New York, Los Angeles, and maybe Chicago. Philadelphia: #4 Phoenix: #12 Pittsburgh: #23 Baltimore: #26 http://www.nielsen.com/pdf/2008_09_DMA_Ranks.pdf -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: COM going HD
Mark J. wrote: Later this month on DirecTV and some cable systems, in a simulcast of the current SD feed--initially, the available programming be mostly movies, although South Park and The Sarah Silverman Program are currently being made in high-def... In fact, the most recent season of South Park looked like it was being framed for widescreen, but -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: COM going HD
Jim Ellwanger wrote: Mark J. wrote: Later this month on DirecTV and some cable systems, in a simulcast of the current SD feed--initially, the available programming be mostly movies, although South Park and The Sarah Silverman Program are currently being made in high-def... In fact, the most recent season of South Park looked like it was being framed for widescreen, but ...was being cropped into 4:3 by Comedy Central. (Sorry my accidentally hitting the send button kept you in suspense.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Tonight Show - sound is out of sync tonight
On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Jon Delfin wrote: By the way, the audio for the first two ABC episodes of Scrubs sounded like it had been funneled through a dead badger. Sounded fine here. Maybe something wrong with the West Coast feed? Sounded fine in my apartment here in Van Nuys, California, although I was watching the HD version via DirecTV DVR, with the sound funneled through a stereo receiver. Obviously, it's a conspiracy between ABC and the major electronics manufacturers to get Kevin to upgrade his setup. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: Someone likes the racist Burger King ads and it's the ...
On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire wrote: Parents Television Council Applauds New Burger King Ad Policy On November 20th, PTC Grassroots Chapter Director Miryam Knigge addressed Burger King’s annual shareholder meeting in Miami. At last year’s meeting, Miryam condemned Burger King for its raunchy commercials, as well as their placement in programs that were not family-friendly. But this year, after intensive efforts by the PTC, we were able to trumpet Burger King’s return to responsible advertising practices. How big of a donation did BK give to the PTC? Also, addressed makes it sound like she gave a formal speech that was on the shareholder meeting agenda -- but surely it was more along the lines of her standing up in the audience and speaking during the portion of the meeting that's set aside for the board of directors to pretend to listen to tirades from any shareholder in attendance. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TV orNotTV] Re: How close are we...
Bob in Jersey wrote: But not all TVs are consoles anymore. Plenty of them are tabletoppers (we have two of them here). And not all of them need to get the pay or on-demand channels, just the same ones we've been getting. And, more importantly, they've got to also be able to work with the VCR, and not in a watch-same-channel-being-taped way, either. Assuming a cable company is going to make sure their new boxes work properly with a VCR is like assuming a new fax machine supports pulse dialing. They would like to either sell you a DVR for every room, or, failing that, home networking equipment so that you can stream recorded programs from the DVR to a box that doesn't record. (DirecTV is very close to having this exact model.) -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
