Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, It is hardly a 1:1 correlation. However, if those cycles worked for the last 1/2 million years, they should be expected to still be working now and we can expect global cooling to occur again. Richard On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Spud,

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
Here is a prediction of the ratio of tensor to scalar of gravitational waves. They just got the ratio a bit low at 0.07 whereas the measured ratio is 0.2. http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.0706 Gravity Waves and Linear Inflation from Axion Monodromy Liam

Re: First direct evidence of cosmic inflation

2014-03-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
The black-hole big-bang theory hypothesized by Smolin and derived by Poplawski is also ruled out as it does not have a cosmic inflation phase. Richard On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/18/2014 3:13 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote: *From:*

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news). Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp, and comp by itself leads to many

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-15 Thread Richard Ruquist
The situation at everything list seems to be deteriorating. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 March 2014 12:19, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: sweet jesus...why do you bother yourself johnny boy, with such slobbering drivel when your hearts not in it. Get an

Re: Amoeba's Secret, by Bruno Marchal available from Kindle store

2014-03-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
Informatique théorique et philosophie de l'esprit Information Theory of Spirits (mistranslation intended) My Aristotelian take: From Leibniz Discourse, http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/mickelsen/texts/leibniz%20-%20discourse%20on%20metaphysics.htm XXXV: The excellence of spirits; that God

Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret, by Bruno Marchal available from Kindle store

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
On 3/5/14, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 05 Mar 2014, at 01:23, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: I just downloaded it from Amazon. Let us see what it can teach me? I won't get to reading it for a couple of days, due to work duties. -Original Message- From: LizR

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Richard Ruquist
bruno: God created the Integers. All the rest came when God added Add and Multiply. richard: I trhink the multiply mat be redundant. Is that a useful property? On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 28 Feb 2014, at 08:20, Chris de Morsella wrote:

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-02-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:42 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:56:39 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi ghibbsa, On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:19, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:59:50 PM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruno, You've said

Re: How does acceleration curve space? Can anyone provide an answer?

2014-02-22 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: John, Yes, that's my understanding, but that wasn't clear in your original post. However it is simply impossible for anything physical to be literally infinite when the nature of infinity as an unending PROCESS (forever

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-17 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, We recently learned on this list that a Turing machine does not halt based on real numbers and apparently can only halt for the natural numbers. I wonder if that may correspond to your claim of the computations of nature being different from the computations of humans. If I remember

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-17 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, Well the way in which I posed my question betrayed my lack of understanding, but the answers were illuminating. So in this vein I will pose another. There is a fellow Peter Beamish, who posts on the Mind/Brain and Theoretical lists (who is a biologist with a PhD from MIT for work done at

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-17 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:50 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/02/2014, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Edgar, Well the way in which I posed my question betrayed my lack of understanding, but the answers were illuminating. So in this vein I will pose another

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread Richard Ruquist
Isn't quantum mechanics based on the reals? On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/15/2014 1:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You might keep in mind that astonishing truth (deducible from Matiyasevitch): - The polynomial on the reals are not Turing

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 15 Feb 2014, at 1:09 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/14/2014 4:24 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 14 Feb 2014, at 3:42 pm, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: What about the CMBR? When it

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
The duplication of human beings, such a significant prediction of comp, should then be amenable to test- using mice of course. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-02-13 18:07 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 13 Feb 2014, at 16:40,

Re: Block Universes

2014-02-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Jesse, See my proximate response to Liz who asked the same question. Basically relativity theory gives you the equations for both frames for

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:12 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 17:16, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:45 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 16:33, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
: Suicide Words God and Ideas From: lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On 12 February 2014 10:55, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 08:50, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:58 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.comwrote: Bell's Inequality in my opinion does not explain the mechanism of EPR. True, Bell couldn't explain it but he did prove that if his inequality

Re: Vote to make ecocide illegal

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:41 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 19:01, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: The Vostok ice core data, from which Atm. temperature and CO2 content have been extracted, suggests that at least for the last half million years climate change

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:45 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 18:40, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: String theory based on Maldacena's conjecture predicted the viscosity of the quark-gluon plasma before it was measured Correctly, I assume. and more

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:45 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 18:40, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: String theory based on Maldacena's conjecture predicted the viscosity of the quark-gluon plasma before it was measured Correctly, I assume. More accurately

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:55 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/11/2014 12:42 AM, LizR wrote: On 11 February 2014 17:21, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 04:57:50PM +1300, LizR wrote: You wouldn't need to say that if you could show what's

Human brain artificially created in laboratory

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
The title of this article is a bit of a reach. But these lab results regarding self-organizing may be of interest to this list. Richard Human brain artificially created in laboratory Published on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 by livia rusu Post filled in: Genetics, Mind Brain Human embryonic stem cells

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 00:41, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:45 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 18:40, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: String theory based

Re: Vote to make ecocide illegal

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 00:38, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:41 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 19:01, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: The Vostok ice core data

Re: Human brain artificially created in laboratory

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
'. Agnostically yours John Mikes On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.comwrote: The title of this article is a bit of a reach. But these lab results regarding self-organizing may be of interest to this list. Richard Human brain artificially created in laboratory

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 08:50, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:42 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 00:41, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:45

Re: Nagel on Explanation

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: Explanation, unlike causation is not just of an event but of an event under a description. An explanation must show why it was likely than an event *of that type* occurred. - Thomas Nagel This quote applies to my

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:00 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 10:55, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 08:50, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:42

Re: Vote to make ecocide illegal

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 10:48, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see that. Warming oceans have less capacity to absorb gas from the atmosphere

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 16:23, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Bell's Inequality in my opinion does not explain the mechanism of EPR. The Einstein-Rosen bridge does. It explains how entangled particles maintain

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:45 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 16:33, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:29 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 February 2014 16:23, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Bell's Inequality in my

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 February 2014 16:40, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: The claimed consequence is that consciousness can be instantiated by a computation which requires no physical events. But I think what is shown is that there can

Re: Vote to make ecocide illegal

2014-02-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
The Vostok ice core data, from which Atm. temperature and CO2 content have been extracted, suggests that at least for the last half million years climate change has been a natural occurrence, apparently based on fluctuations on earth-incident solar radiance. That is except for the last 10,000

Re: Block Universes

2014-02-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
The hole in zero is like the closed circular string which in two dimensions maps everything outside of it to its interior with a r-1/r mapping in every direction. If so then infinity is mapped to the center of the zero, like 1/0=infinity. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:19 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
bay doors...) On 6 February 2014 20:29, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Opps. My memory is not eidetic as well. Here is the pertinent quote from Davies article referenced above: For example, proteins are made of strings of 20 different sorts of amino acids, and the combinatoric

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:44 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2014 02:01, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:36 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: So he's saying the number of proteins you COULD make from around 60 amino acids exceeds the Lloyd

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
OK, I concede. I read Davies 2004 for a fuller explanation, On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2014 14:20, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:44 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2014 02:01, Richard

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
An aspect of my string cosmology is that the metaverse contains a 4D-space (in which one space axis is time) that records every event that ever happened in this and every universe much like the Akashic Records. Eidetics and gurus can apparently time travel in this block-space. Richard On Wed,

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
/papers/0602/0602420.pdf On 6 February 2014 15:58, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: An aspect of my string cosmology is that the metaverse contains a 4D-space (in which one space axis is time) that records every event that ever happened in this and every universe much like the Akashic

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-05 Thread Richard Ruquist
(in the strong sense of emergence). On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:31 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very interesting point. What is the estimated capacity of the human brain? I seem to recalls some 10^17 bits being

Fwd: Fw: [Swines] Matter itself doesn't make this journey, only the information that describes it

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
This might be of interest -- Forwarded message -- From: richard ruquist yann...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM Subject: Fw: [Swines] Matter itself doesn't make this journey, only the information that describes it To: yann...@gmail.com yann...@gmail.com

Re: Fw: [Swines] Matter itself doesn't make this journey, only the information that describes it

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
You are correct: But crucially they've done it for the first time over the kind of ordinary optical fibre that telecommunications that are in use all over the world. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:28 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Matter itself doesn't make this journey, only the information

Re: Fw: [Swines] Matter itself doesn't make this journey, only the information that describes it

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:29 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 February 2014 14:30, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: Of course, you realise there must have been a bunch of entangled particles at both ends of the teleport link prepared ahead of time, which does involve matter

Re: Better Than the Chinese Room

2014-02-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Feb 2014, at 23:29, LizR wrote: On 3 February 2014 08:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/2/2014 5:37 AM, David Nyman wrote: Craig, nothing you have said so far diminishes by a single iota the

Re: Better Than the Chinese Room

2014-02-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 03 Feb 2014, at 14:55, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Feb 2014, at 23:29, LizR wrote: On 3 February 2014 08:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Tegmark's new book

2014-02-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
Having just read arXiv:1401.1219 [pdf, other] Title: Consciousness as a State of Matter, my take on its conclusion is that human consciousness cannot be understood on the basis of classical or quantum mechanics- the former yields only a max of 37 bits and the latter even less. Richard On Sat,

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-30 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, dark matter space warping as you call it is amenable to model mathematically. I think that is something we would all like to see. Richard. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Ghibbsa, Yes, of course there is already a gravity gradient from regular

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-30 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, Please specify the mathematical relationship between p-time and coordinate time. Richard On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Dear Ghibbsa, Thanks for stepping in. And quite pleased to see you accept the obvious fact that the twins DO share a

Re: Better Than the Chinese Room

2014-01-30 Thread Richard Ruquist
Mentioning comp poetry, if we are just conscious mathematical creatures and mathematics has existed long before us, perhaps other conscious math creatures have also existed long before us as Bruno describes. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:03 AM, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote: On 30

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 03:44, LizR wrote: On 27 January 2014 14:08, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/26/2014 3:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I have provided the definition. Should I repeat? God is the

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 13:01, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 03:44, LizR wrote: On 27 January 2014 14:08, meekerdb meeke

Re: Church thesis = non computable functions exist (Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Dear Bruno, No, time is observer dependent as well as observers supply the measures. Recall that I see time as a local measure of change. Change itself is not observer dependent, it flows eternally as

Re: what is the definition of computation?

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
Comp works whether you are conscious or unconscious, if it works at all. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 13:16, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-01-24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be You are a bit non serious here. I have never

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 16:33, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 13:01, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Bruno

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-01-27 Thread Richard Ruquist
Brent, Just put the origin of your GR BH solution at the singularity and most all is explained. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:56 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/27/2014 3:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Jan 2014, at 06:55, meekerdb wrote: On 1/26/2014 9:19 PM, LizR wrote:

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-26 Thread Richard Ruquist
Edgar, Electric fields also come out if the BH singularity has a charge. Richard On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: OK, time for THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION of how gravity can escape from a black hole Liz, Brent, and Richard, OK, nobody got the

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-26 Thread Richard Ruquist
the dying star, and the name black hole is justified.' On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.comwrote: Edgar, Electric fields also come out if the BH singularity has a charge. Richard On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: OK, time

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-26 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: PS: In my post below that should read electric FIELDS can come out of a black hole, not electric CHARGES. Pardon the typo! Edgar On Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:41:07 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: Richard,

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-01-26 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:09 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 25 Jan 2014, at 14:05, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 24 Jan 2014, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/24/2014 12:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 24 Jan 2014, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/24/2014 12:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: In your aristotelian theology. But when working on the mind-body problem, it is better to abandon all prejudices on this. Indeed

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Brent, Obviously the space outside a black hole event horizon is warped. That's experimentally confirmed. My question is HOW does it become warped from the mass inside the black hole which you now claim doesn't even

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
So how do you explain that gravitational effects escape a black hole. And while you are at it explain how electrostatics are instantaneous. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Richard, No, that's not correct. Gravitation is NOT faster than the speed of

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
The best example of what I am referring to is the propagation of EM waves thru a layer where attenuation is dominant. Empirically the EM waves leave the layer at the same instant that they enter. That is a well known near field effect. You might read up on near field scanning microscopes where

Re: A theory of dark matter...

2014-01-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/25/2014 5:29 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: Brent, We have to be careful to be precisely accurate here. 1. The structure of a black hole is not just a singularity inside an event horizon. The entire interior of a black

Re: On differentiation of universes in MWI

2014-01-21 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:30 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/20/2014 5:56 PM, Pierz wrote: A second question/thought on MWI. MWI proposes that the entire universe splits at the point of wave collapse, or rather that it is continually and infinitely splitting with every possible

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:01 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY -- T.H. White http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/426944.T_H_White, * The Once and Future King http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1140206 * I'll have to update my paper. I thought

Re: On differentiation of universes in MWI

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
I prefer a theory where every superimposed quantum state is realized physically but in the same spacetime. Is that theory feasible and does one already exist? Richard On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:08 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They talk about changes spreading out, perhaps gradually. ISTM

Re: On differentiation of universes in MWI

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
. (However a TOE might have something to say about background spacetime) On 21 January 2014 16:45, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer a theory where every superimposed quantum state is realized physically but in the same spacetime. Is that theory feasible and does one already

Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote: On 21 January 2014 00:01, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: All, I almost hesitate to post this. It's obvious nonsense but a good example of how science can be wildly misinterpeted. But on the other hand

Re: what is the definition of computation?

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
The notion that computation produces information contradicts the notion that information is conserved made famous by the black hole paradox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox The evolution of the wave function is determined by a unitary

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? The Computational Metaphor

2014-01-17 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:04 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2014 18:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Briefly, computationalism is the idea that you could replace the brain with a Turing machine and you would preserve the mind. This would not be possible if there is

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-15 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 15 Jan 2014, at 11:10, LizR wrote: On 15 January 2014 22:55, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Jan 2014, at 22:04, LizR wrote: Sorry, I realise that last sentence could be misconstrued by someone who's

Re: The One

2014-01-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:37 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 January 2014 17:44, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Liz, CY Compact manifolds are particles of 6d space that precipitate out of 3D space. Each particle is about 1000 Planck lengths in diameter. OK. That sounds

Re: The One

2014-01-13 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2014 01:04, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:37 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 January 2014 17:44, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Liz, CY Compact manifolds

Re: A different take on the ontological status of Math

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 11 Jan 2014, at 16:06, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Dear Friends, I highly recommend Louis H. Kauffman's new blog. His

Re: The One

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno: *Those machines are enumerable. There is an enumeration of all of them: m_0, m_1, m_2, m_3, m_4, ...* Richard: We are in close agreement if the digital machines are each a Calabi-Yau CY Compact Manifold that can be enumerated. Bruno: *So, you can fix one universal language, like a base,

Re: Tegmark and consciousness

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 12 Jan 2014, at 06:21, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 12 January 2014 15:12, Colin Geoffrey Hales cgha...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: RE: arXiv: 1401.1219v1 [quant-ph] 6 Jan 2014 Consciousness as a State of Matter

Re: The One

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 12 Jan 2014, at 15:30, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno: *Those machines are enumerable. There is an enumeration of all of them: m_0, m_1, m_2, m_3, m_4, ...* Richard: We are in close agreement if the digital machines

Re: Tegmark and consciousness

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
Yes photosynthesis uses, I read, quantum processing in the tropics. Birds are alleged to navigate that way, I seem to remember reading. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: I wonder, if as a side issue, Tegmark still see's Bio matter as unsuitable for quantum

Re: The One

2014-01-12 Thread Richard Ruquist
Liz, CY Compact manifolds are particles of 6d space that precipitate out of 3D space. Each particle is about 1000 Planck lengths in diameter. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 Jan 2014, at 15:30, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno: *Those machines are enumerable

Geography

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Ruquist
computation, as seen from the 1p view. Richard Ruquist: The geography is important. Do we drive on a unique geography? Are there some things, some properties like charge, mass and energy of electrons and photons that are invariant and essentially do not affect their quantum states. If so

Re: Tegmark's New Book

2014-01-07 Thread Richard Ruquist
Most theories of everything (TOEs) like string theory are based on physics. But there are as well TOEs based on mathematics being fundamental to a physical reality based on science. In particular, one math-TOE is based on the discrete natural numbers famously used by Godel to derive his

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-06 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno, Are you saying that 3p determinacy and locality are sufficient to satisfy Bell's theorem? Richard On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Jan 2014, at 16:40, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Re: Another stab at the universal present moment - a gedanken..

2014-01-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Jason, Apparently we are not talking about the same scenario here somehow. Only acceleration/gravitation effects produce permanent clock time differences that both observers agree to when they meet up again. This

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:47 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: According to Wheeler's empirical quantum model, (where the properties of a particle vanish in between observations Yes that's Wheeler's theory

Re: Another stab at the universal present moment - a gedanken..

2014-01-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 Jan 2014, at 16:36, Edgar L. Owen wrote: Pierz, It may not be physics by your definition but both the Present moment and Consciousness are certainly part of reality, in fact they are basic aspects of reality.

Re: Another shot at how spacetime emerges from computational reality

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 23:00, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.com wrote: Hi Jason, Could be... convalescing from the flu I will try to reply...

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 17:12, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 15:11, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Edgar L. Owen

Re: Another shot at how spacetime emerges from computational reality

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 03 Jan 2014, at 12:45, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Jan 2014, at 23:00, Jason Resch wrote: snip Okay, and I can agree with this in some

Re: Putting it all together

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
Looks like a heirarchical Many World h-MW model to me. I conjecture that Wheeler's ItBit empirical quantum model is consistent with the h-MW model via ER=EPR tunneling. Richard On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote: There is no FTL in MWI. If you say so. And now that we know on the authority of Quentin Anciaux that MWI is local and because we already knew

Re: Putting it all together

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:50 PM, scerir sce...@libero.it wrote: It's not many worlds, it's a Uni_ that is _versing itself. UNIty in diVERSity -scerir BTW, did somebody read this paper? It seems interesting. http://arxiv.org/abs/.3328 Pusey, Barrett and Rudolf PBR pose the hypothetical

Re: Putting it all together

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:27 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 January 2014 09:01, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:50 PM, scerir sce...@libero.it wrote: It's not many worlds, it's a Uni_ that is _versing itself. UNIty in diVERSity -scerir BTW, did

Re: Another stab at the universal present moment - a gedanken..

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:11 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/3/2014 7:24 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Jason, If the acceleration is the same, the slowing of clock time will be the same... Doesn't matter

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 01 Jan 2014, at 21:38, meekerdb wrote: On 1/1/2014 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Jan 2014, at 01:18, meekerdb wrote: On 12/31/2013 1:58 PM, LizR wrote: On 1 January 2014 10:46, meekerdb

Re: What are wavefunctions?

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote: Jason, Great! An amazing post! You seem to have correctly gotten part of the theory I proposed in my separate topic Another stab at how spacetime emerges from quantum events. Please refer to that topic to confirm... Do

Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Richard, On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 01 Jan 2014, at 21:38, meekerdb wrote: On 1/1/2014 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: snip I disagree with this. Everett did

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