Re: Block Universes

ar 3, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > Your position becomes more and more absurd. > > > "My position" is simply that for any question on which different frames > give different answers, there is no physical basis for judging on

Re: Block Universes

Liz, Thanks but P-time doesn't need to "be rescued from relativity" since it's completely consistent with relativity, though apparently not with some people's interpretation of relativity. Edgar On Monday, March 3, 2014 1:42:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > By the way, a friend suggested how Edga

Re: Block Universes

in spacetime. How could you believe differently? So this is the ERROR in your example. Therefore it does NOT generate a result in which A's proper age is both 0 and 20 at the same point in spacetime. Edgar On Monday, March 3, 2014 1:50:40 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On

Re: An official friendly challenge to Brent, or anybody else interested in QT..

Liz, The 'results' and the 'everything' are the actual information state of the universe. There is NO separate storage of anything other than the current information state of the universe. The current information state of the universe is continually being computed by the computations. No, it

Re: Block Universes

s would do that You are just endlessly repeating what you read in some relativity textbook without using simple logic to determine its proper application Edgar On Monday, March 3, 2014 5:51:25 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Edgar L. O

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

Bruno, It may be that some plants respond to music or at least to sound but to claim "some plants love music" is an unwarranted anthropomorphism that demonstrates a rather 'New Agey' mentality. Can you link me to any slow motion videos in which plants move IN SYNCH WITH MUSIC? I rather doubt i

Re: Block Universes

l ages even if they are in relative motion. With this understanding your 1. is true of symmetric cases, and 2. is true of all cases... Edgar On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:19:27 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > >

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

5:57 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Edgar, > > > On 04 Mar 2014, at 15:02, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Bruno, > > It may be that some plants respond to music or at least to sound but to > claim "some plants love music" is an unwarranted anthropomorphism tha

Re: Block Universes

f your post later when I have more time... Edgar On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:19:46 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > You ask me to choose between 1. and 2. > > 1. If B's proper age at t

Re: Block Universes

disagree. The current discussion is about choice of frames though. Check my latest post for a synopsis of one case.. Edgar On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:56:49 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 3/4/2014 11:19 AM, Jesse Mazer wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Edgar L.

Re: Block Universes

radiction that isn't just another disagreement over choice of frames that were assumed, then give me a simple example, the simplest you can come up with. Edgar On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Edgar L. Owen >

Re: Block Universes

Jesse, First I see no conclusion that demonstrates INtransitivity here or any contradiction that I asked for. Did I miss that? But that really doesn't matter because second, you are NOT using MY method because you are using ANOTHER coordinate clock FRAME rather than the frame views of the part

Re: Block Universes

Jesse, Here's another point for you to ponder: You claim that all frame views are equally valid. What would you say the weighted mean of all frame views is? I would suspect that it converges towards my solution. It is clear from your own analysis that it does converge to my solution as separat

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

iting for that to happen! Edgar On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:32:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 04 Mar 2014, at 20:14, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > > I only insult people who insult me first, > > No. You have insulted many people a long time before they react

Re: Block Universes

4 at 8:38 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > >> Jesse, >> >> Here's another point for you to ponder: >> >> You claim that all frame views are equally valid. What would you say the >> weighted mean of all frame views is? >> > > Weighted how? I

Re: Block Universes

t doesn't seem to sink in Edgar On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:36:10 AM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > First I see no conclusion that demonstrates INtransitivity here or any > contradic

Re: Block Universes

e apparent lack of simultaneity between two events Nonsiimultaneity=(t1-t2) and plot it relative to the simultaneity that my method claims is actual. Edgar On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:13:24 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wr

Re: Block Universes

agree with it? I see no evidence you are even able to do that Edgar On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:13:24 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > Yes, you are right. I phrased it incorrectly. > &g

Re: Amoeba's Secret, by Bruno Marchal available from Kindle store

Ghibbsa and Bruno, Yes, a fair question. Apparently the committee decided Bruno's paper didn't really deserve the prize. Why was that? Some internal math error discovered? Some inconsistency with other math theory? Or just unwarranted assumptions and conclusions about its application to the rea

Re: Block Universes

> > On 6 March 2014 09:12, Edgar L. Owen >wrote: > >> Jesse, >> >> PS: It is well known that accelerations and gravitation are the ONLY >> causes that produce real actual age rate changes. These real actual age >> rate changes are real and actual because

Re: Block Universes

oesn't work. I used actual ages synchronized at birth (twins) to avoid that kind of misunderstanding. Edgar On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:23:54 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > >

Re: Block Universes

:41:17 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > Yes, the views are infinite on several axes, but that can be addressed > simply by enumerating views at standard intervals on those axes. > > > B

Re: Block Universes

Jesse, I don't think this is correct. It is meaningless to try to TAKE THE FRAME VIEW OF ALL FRAME VIEWS. That's not the correct way to look at it. What we do is to take all frame views of any ONE proper time correlation. Every frame view will give one and only one EXACT answer of how close tho

Re: Amoeba's Secret, by Bruno Marchal available from Kindle store

would be a whole panel of judges to approve it, and the whole panel to reject it. Edgar On Thursday, March 6, 2014 5:58:55 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 06:15:14AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Ghibbsa and Bruno, > > > > Yes, a fair

Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

All, An empty space within which events occur does not exist. There is no universal fixed pre-existing empty space common to all events and observers. Why? Because we cannot establish its existence by any observation whatsoever. We NEVER observe such an empty space. All we actually observe is

Re: The solar example of a town in Germany

All, re global warming Global warming slows down Antarctica’s coldest currents, poses huge threat Oceanographers believe that Antarctica‘s oceanic waters, which are turning from briny to fresh

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

philosophy This is a big big difference. Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 10:31:10 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 07 Mar 2014, at 13:21, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > An empty space within which events occur does not exist. There is no > universal fixed pre-

Re: Block Universes

rent clock slowing along it to get the actual proper clock interval from start to finish. So when we do this we find that the different LENGTHS of world lines between any two spacetime points are due ONLY TO ACCELERATIONS OR GRAVITATION as I previously stated. Do you agree? Edgar On T

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

8 March 2014 01:21, Edgar L. Owen >wrote: > >> All, >> >> An empty space within which events occur does not exist. There is no >> universal fixed pre-existing empty space common to all events and observers. >> >> Why? Because we cannot establish its exi

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

actual universe 'out there' on which minds in general agree no matter how minds work... Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 5:03:19 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 3/7/2014 12:52 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 8 March 2014 01:21, Edgar L. Owen >wrote: > >> All, >>

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

On Friday, March 7, 2014 5:08:40 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 8 March 2014 10:10, Edgar L. Owen >wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> You have a point and I devote an entire part of my book on Reality to >> discussing these kinds of interactions of mind and external comp

Re: Block Universes

7, 2014 5:15:57 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > Finally hopefully getting a minute to respond to at least some of your > posts. > > I'm looking at the two 2 world line diagram

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

Russell, Sure, but that only works if what the similar minds observe is also similar. If similar minds observe different things they will get different answers Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:23:46 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:02:46PM -0800, E

Re: Block Universes

e exactly equal. Thus slanted blue lines of ANY LENGTH have NO EFFECT AT ALL on world line lengths, and only curved red line accelerations do. If you disagree I can give you another example. Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:26:38 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

leads to consistency problems. At least it seems awfully lonely Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:36:59 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:23:15PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Russell, > > > > Sure, but that only works if what the simil

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

st a matter of using the right observation device, but seeing empty space is impossible with ANY observational device Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:46:56 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 8 March 2014 11:03, meekerdb > wrote: > >> On 3/7/2014 12:52 PM, LizR wrote: >>

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

; On 3/7/2014 4:23 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 04:02:46PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > >> Brent, > >> > >> Yes, exactly. The agreement of nearly all minds on the values of > empirical > >> observations is truly remarka

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

to directly experience this by actually seeing that everything is actually its information components, and that only. Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 8:39:20 PM UTC-5, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:49:58 AM UTC, Liz R wrote: >> >> On 8 March 2014

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

3, meekerdb >wrote: > >> On 3/7/2014 12:52 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 8 March 2014 01:21, Edgar L. Owen >wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> An empty space within which events occur does not exist. There is no >>> universal fixed pre-e

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

Liz, Don't you understand the difference between a repeatable observation, which is the basis of science, and human interpretations of reality based on how human minds work? Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:12:30 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 8 March 2014 13:02, Edgar L.

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

Russell, You actually claim that the conservation of energy and time invariance depend on "how humans see the world"? If so I disagree, Edgar On Friday, March 7, 2014 11:53:40 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 05:46:58PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wro

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

John, I don't know where you are getting your data but the data I've seen shows a fairly neat CORRELATION of global temps and CO2. Would you like to give us a link that shows otherwise that is authoritative? Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 1:16:16 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > > On Fri, M

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

rsonal views". Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:46:05 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 08 Mar 2014, at 01:02, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Brent, > > Yes, exactly. The agreement of nearly all minds on the values of empirical > observations is truly remarkable. Th

Re: Tegmark and UDA step 3

because there can be no deterministic rules to align completely separate spacetime fragments, thus nature must act randomly to align them.. Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:53:22 AM UTC-5, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:18:50 PM UTC, Edgar L. O

Re: Block Universes

, but not sure that's the same as the other's actual proper times. Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:31:24 AM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse, > > I guess I'm supposed to take that as

Re: Block Universes

orrelation of proper times between A and C with your method? And isn't that what you keep telling me CAN'T BE DONE? Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:31:24 AM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Jesse,

Re: Why an empty space within which events occur does NOT exist.

humans willy nilly I would be surprised if Brent, a physicist, disagrees with that but I'll let him speak for himself. Edgar On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:52:32 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 05:10:25AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Russe

New NASA study predicts high probability of collapse of industrial civilization

All, this seems like a very reasonable scenario and is in line with my thinking.. Edgar http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/14/nasa-civilisation-irreversible-collapse-study-scientists NASA-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

All, In terms of the Permian and Cretaceous extinctions the theory I find most compelling in both cases is asteroid strikes whose resulting strike energies were also focused at the antipodes. The energy of the Cretaceous strike off the Yucatan was focused in India where it ruptured the crust r

Re: Video of VCR

Craig, Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn it around then I guess by your theory I'd have self awareness? Edgar On Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:09:27 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > >

Re: New NASA study predicts high probability of collapse of industrial civilization

Liz, How is going to another planet and screwing that one up too going to help. The problem is not astronomical, it's human nature. The very success of humans as a species depended on the ruthless exploitation of nature and repression of competition. But those exact same aspects of human nature

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Richard, Yes, it's fun to watch everyone who was dumping on Edgar now dumping on each other even more viciously! So maybe it wasn't Edgar after all, but those who were doing the dumping? :-) Edgar On Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:23:28 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > The situation at everything l

Re: Video of VCR

gs of self-awareness. Edgar On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:17:47 AM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:00:48 PM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> Craig, >> >> Hmmm, let me see. If I just take my eye out of its socket and turn

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

Brent. Correct to a point and those networks of entanglement form the basis of my theory of how space arises piecewise from quantum events that no one here is interested in exploring even though it resolves all quantum paradox and shows how to unify QT and GR. Ah, well, there is always the Sex

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

Brent, If information is not being lost then the amount of information in the universe is increasing at a tremendous rate as new events occur, and has been since the beginning. So where is all that new information being stored? How can ever increasing amounts of information be being stored in

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > >> Brent, >> >> If information is not being lost then the amount of information in the >> universe is increasing at a tremendous rate as new events occur

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

John, If human overpopulation is not drastically reduced humanely it will inevitably be drastically reduced INhumanely... There are a number of ways to reduce human overpopulation humanely. Mainly by offering sufficient financial incentives to women of child bearing age to undergo voluntary st

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > >> Telmo, >> >> No, compression is totally unable to explain the storage of total >> information in a universe which continually doubles its amount of >> information from one Planck time to the n

Re: Entropy and curved spacetime

precise but not sure if it's clearer... Edgar On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:24:44 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Mar 2014, at 12:54, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Presumably you do agree that information can't just float around somehow > without actually being

Re: New NASA study predicts high probability of collapse of industrial civilization

Liz, et al, The problem with your and other's comments is that, as I've explained before, entropy is NOT fundamental as many seem to think.. The current entropy state depends entirely on the current mix of the four fundamental forces, in particular on whether gravitation is more attractive or

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Spud, Using firewood properly done does NOT disrupt the forest. I've used firewood for heating most of my life including currently. I use only dead trees from my own property (16 acres), not taking any with nesting holes. Only very rarely do I cut a live tree when it's clearly on its last legs

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Spud, The best, likely the only, way to protect the environment is to drastically reduce human overpopulation. Down to pre-industrial levels would be a good target ~half to 1 billion... Anyway if we don't do it ourselves the environment will do it for us... Edgar On Thursday, March 20, 2014

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Spud, If only dead wood is cut for firewood and cooking you are just recycling a sustainable resource. Unlike coal and oil, firewood quickly and sustainably regenerates. And basically burning dead wood is just speeding up the natural process of the decay of dead trees. So burning dead wood fo

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Spud, But reducing human overpopulation IS the main problem facing the planet, the ecosystem, and the human species itself. Assuming that increasing technology will somehow solve the problem is, I fear, naive. It is precisely the use of more and more powerful technology that has resulted in th

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

dwindling resources upon which population is dependent. Edgar On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:49:27 AM UTC-4, jessem wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > >> Spud, >> >> But reducing human overpopulation IS the main problem facin

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

e Milankovitch cycles are not > a good explanation after all. > Richard > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Richard, > > Here's is new research into one possible contributor to ice ages. Edgar > > Airborne Iron May Hav

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

gt; I would suggest a stoppage of the Gulf stream as a possibility > based on plate movement. > > But I favor the change in albedo due to an unstable jet stream > known to result from arctic warming. > Richard > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

Richard, Here is a much better graph showing the correlation. Edgar On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:34:08 AM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > Edgar, > > I gather you have not looked at the link I provided which compares > isolation due to the Milankovitch cycles to the Vostok data as well as > compara

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

the 13th century. It gets colder so marmots and > rats dig tunnels and are in closer contact, and thus, easier to spread > bacilli that are bubonic, pneumonic, etc? > > > -Original Message- > From: Edgar L. Owen > > To: everything-list > > Sent: Sat, Ma

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

, they should be expected to still be working now and > we can expect global cooling to occur again. > Richard > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen > > wrote: > > Spud, > > Better evidence is that the little ice age was caused by solar varia

God or not?

All, The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and tha

Posting problems

I've set option of getting all posts as emails which seems to be working OK I think. But when I reply to a post via my Mac mail it never seems to get posted to the group. Also I tried starting several new topics via Mac mail by simply using a new subject line however none of either type of post

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

reality's logico-mathematical system. Edgar On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book > on Reality available on Amazon under my name. > > Marchal is on th

A simple incontrovertible proof there are two kinds of time and a couple of implications

All, The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

content according to his own nature. I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read my book which covers Mind and Reality and explains what Consciousness is quite thoroughly. Edgar On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > T

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

ember 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book > on Reality available on Amazon under my name. > > Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers > (math

The 'Fire' that animates the logic - reply to Stephen

Stephen, A very important point which I cover extensively in my book, but rather subtle to grasp. Reality clearly exists. There is something really here now and actual and happening. The totality of that is defined as reality and I refer to its 'stuff' (non-physical but real and actual) as an

Re: Posting problems

ld be horribly dumb for Google not to let me sign up with whatever email I wanted! Thanks, Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 2:09:10 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > I've set option of getting all posts as emails which seems to be working > OK I think. But when I reply to a post

Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

All, Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. The entire 'Part III: Elementals' of the book covers reality at its finest scale, the quantum world. I'll summarize here but can only gloss over some of the main points. As stated before reality, at its most fund

Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

Thanks for purchasing it. Note that in the Kindle edition the Title page and table of contents formatting is a little screwed up but the text seems OK. Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:13 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Someone asked somewhere if I cover quant

A proper definition of reality

All, Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that reality includes everything that exists and theories of reality most certainly exist. Roger and Bruno seem to be coming from the old dualistic defi

Re: God or not?

you would disagree with it! Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 1:48:40 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving > some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise > everyone is ta

Re: A proper definition of reality

formatting specs is neither science nor reason, its just stating an opinion with no supporting evidence. Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about

Re: God or not?

is tight, exact and meaningful. One doesn't need to know everything about reality to define it meaningfully as everything that exists. Thus defining God as Reality is well defined and meaningful. It's the only rational choice IF you need a God. Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013

Re: A proper definition of reality

ecember 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that > reality includes everything that exists and theories of reality mo

Re: A proper definition of reality

x27;t shown any such contradiction. Again the entirety of reality MUST be computational, otherwise it could never even happen as there is no way for something to happen other than it being computed. Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, &g

Re: A proper definition of reality

ngs are their information only, but that information is wonderful indeed! Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about reality. But the proper definition

Re: God or not?

ch conveys actual reality upon the computationally evolving information forms within it. Because of its non-physical nature OE is difficult to properly describe as Lao Tse noted about the Tao which was his take on OE. Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 1:48:40 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >

Re: A proper definition of reality

and no matter how much you try it still runs. Reality keeps running in spite of your human math telling you it can't run. *Eppur si muove!* Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with

Re: A proper definition of reality

... Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that > reality includes everything that exists

Re: Bruno's mathematical reality

is single universal computational reality in their respective frames as they emerge from quantum events. Best, Edgar On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book > on Realit

Re: A proper definition of reality

they just count up to 17. Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:48:24 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that > reality in

How the STc principle (special relativity) puts both the arrow of time and a common present moment on a firm physical basis.

Liz states that "Special relativity shows that there is no such thing as a "common present moment". but this is incorrect. Actually special relativity shows exactly the opposite. In my book I explain how this works. It is well known, though little understood, that everything without exception c

Re: How the STc principle (special relativity) puts both the arrow of time and a common present moment on a firm physical basis.

different observers) and P-time, the time of the present moment, are recognized. See my new topic on 2 different kinds of time for an explanation Edgar On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:26:00 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Liz states that "Special relativity shows that there is no

Why there is something rather than nothing...

All, As I state in my book on Reality in Part I: Fundamentals, Existence MUST exist because non-existence canNOT exist. That is why there was never a nothing out of which something appeared. Therefore there is no need for a creator nor a creation event. The very notion is illogical and impossi

Re: God or not?

, and they also as parts of that information reality are themselves also only information. Edgar On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:10:30 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving > some definition of what

Re: God or not?

Bruno, and Samiya, Because there can be no creator sustainer God that stands outside the universe. Where would he/it stand? That's an irrational belief from millennia ago. The universe by definition is all that exists... Edgar On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:10:30 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen

The 'Super Anthropic Principle' - why multiverses are not needed and thus very unlikely

All, ST=spacetime, c=speed of light, thus STc Principle. To answer some of Jason's questions. Block time is wrong. Only the common present moment exists. All the comments Jason makes refer only to differences in clock times which are well known, but the important point is that all those differ

Re: Yes, my book 'Reality' does cover quantum reality.

quantum events in my book 'Reality' on Amazon. I can discuss more details here if they come up... Best, Edgar On Monday, December 23, 2013 7:15:13 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Someone asked somewhere if I cover quantum theory in my book. Yes, I do. >

Re: The 'Super Anthropic Principle' - why multiverses are not needed and thus very unlikely

. Edgar On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:52:10 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > ST=spacetime, c=speed of light, thus STc Principle. > > To answer some of Jason's questions. Block time is wrong. Only the common > present moment exists. All the comments Jason ma

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