well, it's also as you said previously, Richard, experiencing unbounded
awareness is pretty much its own verification.
I remember, as an aside, someone asking Maharishi, (this was on a tape), why
is the experience of unbounded awareness blissful. His response was that, that
is its nature. T
On 10/24/2014 7:40 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
Richard, you want something silly? I give you something silly.
Barry is having a near panic attack, pleading, insisting that someone
explain to him the importance of the experience of unbounded
awareness. I guess he's g
Richard, you want something silly? I give you something silly.
Barry is having a near panic attack, pleading, insisting that someone explain
to him the importance of the experience of unbounded awareness. I guess he's
got a turd he wants to drop on that or something.
But, here. Get this.
turquoiseb@...
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Well said
Xeno, me too! During some of my early meditations, I just wanted to jump up and
run out of the room. But I just "knew" that it was what I had been wanting,
just as I "knew" I was gonna start TM even before the lecturers said anything.
In retrospect it seems like an amazing time in my life.
I'l
On 10/24/2014 8:44 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
This sounds like a pretzeling "moment"
>
/It seems dirt simple to me. We are all bound by karma, which means
actions, past and present. If a person does good deeds, he or she will
be reborn in a better life. ///On the other
This sounds like a pretzeling "moment"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Xeno didn't even recognize the dissonance in Barry's preference for Bruce
Cockburn songs. Everyone knows Cockburn is a born-again Christian. What about
Barry's claim that a "belief in God is a form of
/Xeno didn't even recognize the dissonance in Barry's preference for
Bruce Cockburn songs. Everyone knows Cockburn is a born-again
Christian. What about Barry's claim that a "belief in God is a form of
mental illness." /
/>/
On 10/24/2014 12:03 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
/It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by
leaving out of the discussion all the interesting stuff Barry
believes in - like karma and reincarnation.
/
/>/
On 10/23/2014 10:21 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
I do not have time to read e
--- wrote :
It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the
discussion all the interesting stuff Barry believes in - like karma and
reincarnation.
What happened - I thought you guys all read Sam Harris' book. Go figure.
Xeno didn't even recognize the dis
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
That was a great read, thanks!
>
It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out of the
discussion all the interesti
It is the closest word I can think of, that describes a life of enlightenment,
normal. :-).
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Funny you mention this word. When a journalist in Vlodrop asked who are you
really Maharishi, he simply said; "I'm just a normal human being". Whereupon
On 10/23/2014 11:37 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
That was a great read, thanks!
>
/It was intersting to see how Xeno tried to enable Barry, by leaving out
of the discussion all the interesting stuff Barry believes in - like
karma and reincarnation. //
//
//What ha
Funny you mention this word. When a journalist in Vlodrop asked who are you
really Maharishi, he simply said; "I'm just a normal human being". Whereupon
Bevan afterwards remarked; "today we got a new understanding of what it means
to be "normal" :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrot
A slight nit:
in the 40 years that Benson has been publishing his book he never, not even
once, published a head-to-head study of TM vs his "Relaxation Response."
In fact, the criticisms that were leveled against Keith Wallace's first study
apply equally well to Benson's research.
And
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [
Like you Share, I really did not pay attention to the selling points as I had
had experiences prior to TM, I was just looking for an easy way to meditate, a
natural consequence of being lazy.
The sell was there in the introductory and preparatory lectures and in
available chart books suppose
e able to say every day 'I'm gonna help
people! Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggonit, people like
me!
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23,
e like
me!
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius
On 10/23/2014 10:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
Two travelers are on a road, looking for Ixtlan.
They ask a passing bird for directions.
He gives them, then flies off.
Do the travelers go in the direction he pointed them to, or not?
Whatever their choice, do th
From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I think you hit on something here I neve
everything has been done that needs to be done; gone to the other
shore; totally gone. No come back no more. Free.
>
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:00 AM, "TurquoiseBee
turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
:
*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife]"
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
m [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
From: "TurquoiseBee
Richard, I also appreciate Maharishi's distinction between and enlightened
person and an enlightened teacher. The person maybe popped into enlightenment
while eating a strawberry. So then he or she teaches the strawberry eating
technique.
OTOH, an enlightened teacher has such a perspective tha
Free.
>
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:00 AM, "TurquoiseBee
turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2
On 10/23/2014 9:02 AM, inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
You are very good at quoting scripture and contents of text books (and
there is a value to that), but when you look to the honesty of your
moment to moment experience - What do you find?
>
/Teachers and textbooks are like fin
Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:00 AM, "TurquoiseBee
turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
wrote:
*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife]
You are very good at quoting scripture and contents of text books (and there is
a value to that), but when you look to the honesty of your moment to moment
experience - What do you find? Put aside traditions and ancient wisdom - they
are not relevant today - today its What are you bringing to
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
>
On 10/23/2014 5:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
>
It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T
valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost no one in history has ever
stepped up to the plate
ual life?/
>
*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:33 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental
illness
*From:* "Xenophaneros Anartaxius
On 10/23/2014 3:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
**
For me as time went on such experiences tended to damp out, everything
kind of flattened out, until one day on a walk there was this shift in
which the world, as it always had been, was identical with what I had
l Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
It's NOT that I'
From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
--- wrote :
It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T valuable. I'm
just pointing out that almost no one in history has ever stepped up to the
plate and made an objective, sci
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
It&#
Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a fo
From: "Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
The question for 'spiritually' oriented individuals would be, is there a way to
construct a system that gives us
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
From: &
Just to be clear, at no time have I said I was in the highest state of human
development. The way I learned it, according to Maharishi, was that
enlightenment meant simply, normal, and everything continues from there, as it
always has. Draw your own conclusions.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I have no problem with your friendship with Ann - As she responded, she
suspects some of what I said is accurate,
M: That would require her to believe that you know my feelings when reading
posts or whether or not I even read posts between other
I have no problem with your friendship with Ann - As she responded, she
suspects some of what I said is accurate, but doesn't let that deter a
friendship with you. I don't play the chimp's games, and you, like the chimp,
seem to have a difficult time reconciling, one the one hand, denying that I
Richard, it occurs to me that the only thing we can know for sure is that
awareness exists. And that's because we're aware. But maybe I'm over
simplifying (-:
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:02 PM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On 10/21/20
Hi, and thanks for that - Yeah, I just wanted to point out who is the hand, and
who is the sock monkey, in that equation. Have a great day!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
So, you must be a man of deep capacity to be able to ho
I'm sure Ann appreciates your straightening her out about me Jim. She was
making the mistake of trusting her own impression, but now has the enlightened
perspective from you on my dark motives and inner thoughts.
At first I wondered how you could know about my inner feelings or whether or
not I
I've been around FFL a while, but don't post often as conversations quickly
become too personal (I don't know folks by their given names) - and although I
can wade thru muck and mire, way too much bandwidth is used up on folks dealing
with their own emotions.
and I can't figure out the forum s
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
The human species lack of hard wiring makes us more flexible for learning; we
do
On 10/22/2014 5:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
*From:* "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical
wiring and growth of the brain, ca
who did you say was channeling Judy, sal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers From
Hell folder, I seem to remember her being the person who cl
oogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
okay, good goal Ann, but your normal style of functioning.
It's just when we see something that seems out of whack, we comment on it.
To Barry that's being obsessed, or stalking.
He, of course is beyond most, if not all, human foibles.
okay, good goal Ann, but your normal style of functioning.
It's just when we see something that seems out of whack, we comment on it.
To Barry that's being obsessed, or stalking.
He, of course is beyond most, if not all, human foibles. A model of
unattachment.
A button pusher on hi
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Ann, it appears that agreement with Barry, trumps any kind of rational
thinking with sal.
go figger!
Yes, but "kindness" is my goal today (although I always find it easy to be
kind to my animals) so I will hold off commenting on this exce
dLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and growth of the brain, causes not n
Barry, what the hell are you saying?
Tell me it's not the same 'ol diatribe.
Maybe I'll have time to read it later.
How many posts have you written denigrating the place here, and it's
participants, every hour, every day, letting us know what a waste of time it is
for your to partici
On 10/21/2014 12:54 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I enjoyed your response till you went "its all about Barry" on my ass
Richard.
>
/So, you don't want to talk about Barry and Sam Harris and their belief
in Buddhas, karma and reincarnation. Go figure./
>
I am not
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be
proven, by physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of
the equation of life, life then makes less sense, and becomes less
enjoyable. An example would be the love bet
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of ment
See what I mean about religion being a form of mental illness? Here
you have a person who chooses to excuse her stalking behavior and
obsession on one particular person she hates by claiming it's her
religious duty to act like this. This religious fanatic not only
admits to being a stalker,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first questi
On 10/22/2014 6:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
**
Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers
From Hell folder,
>
/It looks like maybe Ann pushed one of Barry's buttons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
So, you must be a man of deep capacity to be able to hold within your
appreciation myself and someone as different as I am in the form of bawee.
Maybe one day I'll get there too.
Something to point out, about Curtis, Ann -- Rather than an ex
rfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
*From:* "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results
wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
That's a nice piece Ann.
I feel as though I have a pretty good idea of the "real" person behind
people's online persona.
I think you might be referring to Barry in some of what you say here.
I've had a changing relationship with him.
On 10/21/2014 9:49 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yeah, I've seen $cientologists like this in action, and for the life
of me can't tell any difference between them and Richard, Ann, Jimbo,
and She Whose Holy Work They Are Continuing In Her Absence.
Uber-cultists, the whole l
You never really began to debate.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Xeno,
Thank you for your ideas. I believe we've exhausted this debate. There is no
point to continue.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :No
X
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not
considered a contagious disease. So contrary to the title Barry gave
n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental ill
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Well, before I started moving Ann's messages to the Deranged Stalkers From Hell
folder, I seem to remember her being the person who claimed to know for sure
that nothing bad had happened to Judy. That would indicate that they
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: salyavin808
See what I mean about religion being a form of mental illness? Here you have a
person who chooses to excuse her stalking behavior and obsession on one
particular person she hates by claiming it's her religious duty to a
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not
considered a contagious diseas
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first questi
From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and gro
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be proven, by
physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of the equation of life,
life then makes less sense, and becomes less enjoyable. An example would be the
love be
So, you must be a man of deep capacity to be able to hold within your
appreciation myself and someone as different as I am in the form of bawee.
Maybe one day I'll get there too.
Something to point out, about Curtis, Ann -- Rather than an expression of his
social flexibility and capacity to
There are many non-physical phenomena that on one hand, cannot be proven, by
physical means. On the other hand, if we take them out of the equation of life,
life then makes less sense, and becomes less enjoyable. An example would be the
love between a child, and its mother or father, or love bet
Xeno,
Thank you for your ideas. I believe we've exhausted this debate. There is no
point to continue.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :No
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly not what you stated
yester
As to the first question, mental illness perhaps results from atypical wiring
and growth of the brain, causes not necessarily known. Mental illness is not
considered a contagious disease. So contrary to the title Barry gave to this
thread, the hook if you will, belief in god is not a mental illn
That's a nice piece Ann.
I feel as though I have a pretty good idea of the "real" person behind
people's online persona.
I think you might be referring to Barry in some of what you say here.
I've had a changing relationship with him.
He thinks I've changed. I think he's changed.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I may not respond point by point Ann. You and I have our clear channel. I
think we get each other. I am more of a one one one poster here. Steve nailed
me recently. He said I respond to everyone in sympathetic response to how they
respond to me
On 10/21/2014 1:57 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Richard,
Your points are excellent. It's good that you reminded us of
Aristotle's idea regarding the first cause and principle. But it
appears that there are some people here who will disagree with you on
this point.
>
/So fa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
anything that interacts with the phys
irfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's such a delight to read something written by someone who can still think,
Curtis. Thanks.
The very IDEA that someone could consider Robin Carlsen or Jim Flanegin or
John R
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
anything that interacts with the physical/material.'
especially the . . . "and anythin
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
there seem to be 2 questions running through this thread: 1) is a belief in
God a mental illness and 2) is a belief in God justifiable.
the first question is too cumbersome for me - having the notion of mental
illness imbedded in the question
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :No
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly not what you stated
yesterday. Earlier, you said that "everything that exists has no cause". Then
you said that:
"As far as my experience is concerned, I have always existed. The
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
This is a lot of airy talk, though telling. My concern after having read it,
is, I feel it was written by someone who takes less than complete
responsibility for their life, and their personal thoughts and actions. Taking
this line, of the strong
On 10/21/2014 12:07 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is
a little more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam
Harris (-:
>
According to Sam Harris consciousness is the only thing that canno
Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart
of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or
anything that interacts with the physical/material.'
especially the . . . "and anything that interacts with the physical/material"
becaus
Trem23,
Regarding Q1, you have to understand who started this thread in the first
place. The person who started it is a self-proclaimed "non-theist". You can
ask him what this means. You may or may not get a consistent answer from him.
Regarding Q2, MMY said that everything in the world
Richard,
Your points are excellent. It's good that you reminded us of Aristotle's idea
regarding the first cause and principle. But it appears that there are some
people here who will disagree with you on this point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Everyone in the foru
21, 2014 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-:
Xeno,
You are changing your tune today which is clearly not what you stated
yesterday. Earlier, you said that "everything that exists has no cause". Then
you said that:
"As far as my experience is concerned, I have always existed. The body that
gives me eyes seems to have had prior caus
October 21, 2014 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-:
Anyway, my questions are:
1. how do we know that we know? Which is kind of abstract and pro
From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I enjoyed your response till you went "its all about Barry" on m
I enjoyed your response till you went "its all about Barry" on my ass Richard.
I am not on board with your use of the term inference and its validity in
gaining knowledge on its own. It is one of the pieces of the epistemological
puzzle and fraught with issues. Nor do I accept that the claim of
Everyone in the forum is invited to participate in this
discussion to ask Xeno about his revelations regarding his
physical existence.
>
/Everyone on this forum seems to believe in causation - that for
every event there is a cause. The question is if everything that
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Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little
more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-:
Anyway, my questions are:
1. how do we know that we know? Which is kind of abstract and probably just me
reliving a past life as a haetera!
2. w
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