Another side-effect of pred is bone loss. One of mine was on it for 1.5-2
years and broke his hind leg. Very slow to heal, was pinned for quite a
long time. He is off it now.
Having trouble eating and having an irritated throat - is it possible he
has developed a stricture from getting pilled
Hi Anne,
Welcome to the group. I love the pictures of Dublin with your
greyhound! It's been a little while since I've had a positive, he
was infected as a young kitten, lived for 3.5 years (with his still
negative siblings) before he passed. If your guy was a little older
when he was infected,
My positive grew up wrestling with his two negative brothers and they were
fine. They initially all tested negative, so some of the tussling happened
before
the neg's were vaccinated, and still no transmission. Once Will tested
positive, we vaccinated the neg's. Will lived with them until he
Hi Marcia,
I know popular opinion is to limit antibiotic use, because it can kill
the good bacteria in the gut, but in my limited experience I prefer to
leave immune-compromised kitties on it longer. I had one little FeLV
pos kitten with a URI that had a 10 day regimen of Clavamox. She was
Hi Marcia,
Glad to hear Fletch is looking better! After what I went through
with Alice (trapped at 6weeks, lost to wet FIP at 12 weeks), I'd leave
him on it for awhile even after he seems ok, just to be sure. I am on
the FIP list too, as hard as the FeLV stories are, FIP is even worse!
I only
Hi Marcia,
So sorry to hear about Fletch. There is a good chance your adults
will be just fine. I would get them tested and vaccinated, and keep
Fletch seperated for a couple of weeks after the last shot. 3 of mine
ran around with an infected brother for weeks before he was diagnosed
and they
.
Lorrie
On 07-09, Beth Noren wrote:
Yes, I've used Dumor brand Starter/Grower Chick Feed. I get it
from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I
got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus.
my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor
Yes, I've used Dumor brand Starter/Grower Chick Feed. I get it
from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I
got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus.
my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough. Pros:
1.price 2.low dust
Winn Foundation is legit and does a lot of good, I know they give
grants for FIP research, but I think they do grants for other cat
health issues as well. If you go to their home page and click on
Grants you can see listings for what they have funded. Each year
they put out a list of what
Hi Cindy,
I'm not familiar with Hyland's Bioplasma tablets either, but if you
decide to try them
and they don't work, maybe talk to your vet about Cyclosporine. I
have 2 boys with severe allergies (one food/environmental, one just
environmental) and tried many things, including food trials and
Natalie,
Just a note of caution, a mom cat can test negative and still have
positive babies. Happened to me. Also, if they are tested
immediately upon rescue, there can be false negatives because the
virus is still incubating and hasn't had time to show up yet. Also
happened to me. Even if a
Hi Pam,
I think a good regular vet who is willing to listen is the absolute
best kind. I've tried another vet with a larger 24 hour practice who
has pioneered some procedures. He was a mean, nasty ego-maniac. I
much prefer a smaller practice where they can spend time to get to
really know you
Many dog products are extremely dangerous for cats, but at least the
last time that I ordered, Revolution used the same formula for both
dogs and cats. I have used the large dog tube many times on my cats.
Like Lynda, I have a couple of cats that lose their fur at the
application site, so I
Hi Melinda,
I tried them on back paws to try to prevent one with severe allergies
from scratching his head. Didn't work. He just chewed them off.
(he's on Cyclosporine now, which works wonders). Haven't tried them
on front paws, perhaps they would chew less on those, or if you are
really
I am so sorry to hear that Rosie has passed. I really hoped that at
least one would be spared a while longer. They were a lucky bunch of
kittens to have found you, so many people won't give even one positive
a chance.
Hugs,
Beth N., angel Will Feral's mom
Marnie,
It is common for this to happen. I trapped 5 plus mom, mom was
snap negative, runt was positive, 4 others were negative. 6 weeks
later one of the negatives got a fever, was retested, and was
positive. We think the first test was done too soon after his last
exposure, there was not
Hi Stacy,
One of my negative cats has EGC on his belly. He gets raised, red
plaques and licks constantly. I had no luck with topical creams, fish
oil, or allergy shots. We had him on prednisolone to control it for
quite a while, because it worked and it was what we could afford.
Unfortunately,
Hi,
I have 1 formerly stray, and 1 formerly feral. I think the best way
is cold-turkey. Otherwise they will just keep begging to go out and
trying to slip outside. Mine adjusted quickly, had one scary
over-night sneak out, but overall they seem content to be inside.
Teaching him that he must
I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and
died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the negatives became sick soon
after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with
his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings
vaccinated, but did not
Hi Rachel,
Here is a link to a chart that explains what the next step should be
for each type of test result. For positive Elisa, negative IFA, they
recommend retesting after a certain time period until the results are
no longer discordant.
Hope this helps,
Beth
Georgetta,
Here are more links that I could find on when to test, somewhat
contradictory. Since the Elisa looks for antigens, not antibodies,
you can test as young as you like without worrying about maternal
antibodies interfering. But, since the virus needs some time to
incubate (I'm seeing
Hi Georgetta,
Yup, I understand how bitey an unsocialized singleton can be! My arms
were SO scratched up from my first positive that lived in quarantine
from 6-12 weeks. Others here may have better references, but I found
one article that says that the time between infection and testing
positive
Hi Georgetta,
A negative snap is not always negative. I rescued a litter of 5 six
week olds, sickly runt was immediately quarantined, Elisa tested
positive at seven weeks old. Her siblings were first tested at eight
weeks old, all negative. One brother came down with a high fever at
fourteen
Alice,
I lost two of five to this lousy disease, can't imagine going through
it as many times as you have. Wishing you strength to see Murphy
through his journey. They were a lucky litter to find you.
Hugs,
Beth
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Glad you your kitties like it!
Beth N.
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, rache20...@aol.com wrote:
Thank to whomever suggested the Chicken starter/grower from TSC. I went and
got a 50lb. bag for $11.49 (and I live in NY state). I'm thrilled. It is
just as good or better than the World's
Hi Kelley,
Me too! I like the way this box catches the urine in a reservoir.
One of my boxes is a Tidy Cat Breeze right now. The cats love it, it
is their favorite box too pee in, but the urine collection tray is too
shallow and the pads are bad for the environment. It's too bad, I
love the way
Not sure statistically how often it happens, but I know it can,
because it happened to me.
Tested mom cat (negative) and sickly 7 week old runt (positive) with
the in-house Elisa snap test.
Four other littermates were separated from mom and the runt and were
tested at 8 weeks (all negative). At
Of Beth Noren
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Multi Cat House Protocol
Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for quite
some time. I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a follow-up IFA
several
Hi, I'm not sure if you got a reply as my computer has been down for quite
some time. I tested everyone Elisa and IFA initially, did a follow-up IFA
several months later, and vaccinated the negatives. My plan was only to
retest if a negative became sick, and this was supported by my vet. The
My cats tend to be fattest on dry food. They are thinner, more playful and
energetic on wet, and it is supposed to be a lot healthier for them (less
chance of diabetes, etc.), although it is painfully expensive for 5 cats.
Mine have severe allergy problems so I have to feed them Natural Balance
Saw this on Detroit area Craig's List last night, thought I'd pass it
along...
WANTED: FELV OR FIV POSITIVE KITTEN (Troy)
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Reply to:
comm-1037835...@craigslist.orgcomm-1037835...@craigslist.org?subject=wanted:%20FELV%20OR%20FIV%20POSITIVE%20KITTEN%20(Troy)
[?
Hi, me again,
I just re-read some info on FIP at this site, and they are saying FCoV
transmission is primarily through shared litterboxes, so even less chance
for worry...
http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html
Beth
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Hi Tonya,
I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic
URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When
her belly very first started to swell I noticed it, but the vet couldn't see
it (or perhaps didn't want me to worry too much prematurely?)
Hi Laurie,
If there are no other symptoms (fever, pronounced spine) then I
wouldn't worry. Wet FIP
normally progresses pretty quickly, from my experience and what I've
read. When I lost my Alice to it it was maybe 3 weeks or less from first
noticing symptoms to having her so swollen and
I think it's called Rivalta's test?
Beth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a test which MC will probably remember the name of that can rule
out FIP. Most vets do not know about it. If the cat does indeed have wet
FIP, the prognosis is very
Here's a link with a good explanation:
http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html
Beth :o)
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's it - thanks!
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's called Rivalta's test
Hi,
I would test all, if financially possible. I rescued a mom and five babies,
mom tested negative, runt tested positive at 7 weeks old and was
quarantined, 4 siblings were negative at 8 weeks old. One of the neg's got
a fever at about 14 weeks old, he was retested Elisa and IFA and was
Hi Sherry, quick question...has she had an ultrasound of her bladder? Our
Will Feral was recently dx'd with idiopathic interstitial cystitis (blood in
urine off and on, peeing on the floor, straining at times, normal urine ph,
no evidence of crystals, no infection, nothing on xray). He gets
Sharyl,
Don't give up hope that some are negative. Ours initially tested 4
negative, 1 pos. One of the negs was incubating the virus and tested
positive some weeks later, but the other three
were still negative 6 months later. Their feral momma tested Elisa
negative (didn't do IFA on her) and
Hi Tonya,
Sounds like Bob is having problems very similar to what we are now going
through with Will Feral. He began spraying a few weeks ago, blood has been
in the urine off and on. X-ray was clear, urinalysis had no crystals, good
ph, no blockage. Dx was interstitial cystitis. He did 2 weeks
Hi Terrie,
I am so sorry to hear what you are going through with your mom. Just as a
little bit of hope, my dad is the same age as your mom and his doctor gave
him 1 month to 1 year to live over 2 and a half years ago. We thought it
was really the end just before last Christmas, he couldn't walk
Dear Heather,
I am so sorry that Hobb's has passed. Thank you and Jann for all you have
done for him and his sister Sissy. I rescued a litter of 5, mom tested
negative on the Elisa, very sick runt tested Felv+ right away (7 wks old),
after a brief rally we lost her to suspected FIP at 12 weeks.
and now. Even when he's hell-bent on stealing used Q-tips from the
bathroom trash. :o)
Sending good thoughts for Sissy,
Beth
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Heather Wienker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Beth (Noren)-
For your two surviving 2 year old FELV kitties, are there supplements
you've
My crew of born-in-a-brush-pile kitties acted like that at first. They were
7-8 weeks old when we brought them into our house. We had them quarantined
in our bedroom, got a positve FELV test, and kept them in there until we
could run a confirming test 3 months later, and get our adult kitty
Thanks Tonya, I'm tryin', though it doesn't come easy! I just joined a
parrot behavior list that teaches people to modify their parrots behavior
through positive reinforcement and modeling
the correct behavior. Funny thing is, list members are required to live by
those same principals in their
Glenda, many of us here mix our vaccinated negatives with our positives. It
is a calculated risk that takes into account quality of life, as is your
decision to allow your cats outside. In my situation, with my neighborhood
and my street-senseless cats, an outdoor kitty is a risk that I won't
.
Trajan Tennent
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*From:* Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:16 AM
*Subject:* Re: Here is the link
Glenda, many of us here mix our vaccinated negatives with our positives
Liquid Benadryl will make your cat drool and foam at the mouth like it's
gone rabid. I think crushed up pills may do the same. Best bet is a pill
popper, or having it compounded into a transdermal cream.
Beth
On 8/10/07, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beckie: I bought pill
I can't remember where I read it, (thinking it was in Kittens for Dummies,
which I can't find right now), but I know I've read that products containing
lidocaine should not be used on cats. Bactine contains lidocaine. Can't
remember what the side-effect was with cats, anyone else out there have
Hi Kelley,
I am so sorry for what you are going through. If it is FIP, maybe you have
a chronic FeCov shedder with a more easily mutating strain? I know regular
old FeCov is gonna be present in any rescue, but if more than 5-10% of your
cats are getting FIP, maybe a nastier strain is the
Oh Kelley, I am so sorry for your loss, I just finished responding to your
other email and then saw this one. Please don't put the blame on yourself
for trying to rescue too many. Look instead at how many lives you have
saved. Add them up. Our local Humane Society euthanized almost 28,000
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
St.
Francis
- Original Message -
*From:* Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2007 12:13 AM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons
Hi Phaewryn,
I know that we will probably have to agree to disagree on this, but if I
take your opinion to it's logical conclusion, then all declawed cats that
end up in a shelter should automatically be euthanized to end their
suffering? Like you, I am not a knee-jerk no-kill ever person. Like
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck
suggesting this
to people yet, (even when I tell them how much money they can save) as they
all
seem to want itty-bitty kittens. In my case, I
- Original Message -
*From:* Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat
It sounds like Phelix and Mythic might have inhalant or contact allergies
and that the allergy tests might be worthwhile for them. Unfortunately, my
vet and I are fairly certain that Scooter's problem IS a food allergy, which
means food trials are the recommended method of diagnoses and
Hi, I have laminate (Armstrong) and so far, so good, no scratches from the
cats.
MIne is called Easylock, not sure if they still make it, but it was very
easy to
install (easier than the Pergo I put in for my sister a few years ago.)
:o)
Beth
On 6/7/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That
-friendly.
elizabeth
On 6/7/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have laminate (Armstrong) and so far, so good, no scratches from
the cats.
MIne is called Easylock, not sure if they still make it, but it was
very easy to
install (easier than the Pergo I put in for my sister a few years
I love having 5, though our ordinance is for 3. Silly, because we are
allowed up to
3 dogs as well, which would make six total. Guess I'll just count the play
fetch
kitties as dogs...
:o)
Beth
On 5/22/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i always liked five.. tho i can barely
Hi Deana,
Very glad to hear you are finding a new vet. I rescued a litter born of a
feral mom who tested negative (we had her spayed and released). One sick
baby tested positive right away, the other 4 tested negative. The sick one
developed FIP and had to be pts (but at least had some quality
Beth,
I am so sorry for your loss of Stamp. I had to pts Ally last summer due to
FIP, it is a rotten disease.
Peace to you and yours,
Beth N.
On 4/17/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing
Angel Alice - captured at 6 weeks, tested positve Elisa and IFA at 7 weeks,
pts with unconfirmed
FIP at 12 weeks (unresponsive fevers, huge belly of
fluid, anorexic).
Will Feral -captured at 6 weeks, tested Elisa negative at 8 weeks, fever
at 13.5 weeks, tests
I've wondered about the possibility too :o) My kittens momma
tested Elisa negative when she was spayed, but one kitten tested
positive (elisa and IFA) at seven weeks, and a second one turned
positive at about 14 weeks. I think that the momma was probably
the source and would have tested
Sorry, meant to send that to the list and sent it direct to you instead.
Hope your having
a wonderful morning and that your friendly old orange boy is sitting up on
the table, enjoying
a patch of this wonderful sunshine...
:o)
Beth
On 4/10/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've
Hi,
What did her cat pass from? If it was complications from FeLV then she can
get another
cat immediately. FeLV does not survive long at all outside of a cat's
body, if it dries, it dies.
Beth
On 4/4/07, Jennifer Madon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a neighbor that had a cat get sick
Dear Elizabeth,
I am so sorry for Mama Kitty's passing. Her picture is just beautiful. I
know she is
doing better now (rolling in the sun somewhere just as I pictured her on her
last day).
The hard part is knowing the pain that you, her kind, generous, loving
caretaker must struggle
with in her
Hi Sherry,
I am so sorry for your loss of Hammy. Prayers going out for dear Lucinda.
Beth
On 3/28/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,thank you for your good wishes and prayers for sweet little
Hammy.He is now with all the Angel fur kids.
Could you also put Lucinda in your
Hideyo, sending strength and good thoughts to you in this difficult time.
Beth
On 3/28/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm writing to the list for prayers, strength and love to be sent to our
dear friend Hideyo. She has had so many losses, so much pain and
sadness, so much strife, she
Hi Belinda,
Glad to hear that Fred spirits are up. Is there any way you could have a
syringe filled with water or tuna juice and maybe squirt it in after he gets
his pills? I don't know how possible that would be if he's struggling, why
is it the ones that really really need the meds seem to be
Marissa,
Thinking of you and Slinky at this difficult time, so glad that he was able
to spend his life with such a good friend at his side. Peace and hugs to
you both,
Beth N.
On 3/26/07, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina (and EVERYONE!), thank you soo much! It is so
Hi Elizabeth,
So sorry to hear Mama Kitty had a seizure. I haven't had time to write
anyone much lately, but I have tried to keep up with reading the list and
have followed what you've been going through with her. It is weird, we had
lots of beautiful sunshine this afternoon and I was thinking
Hi Kelley,
I was surprised at how forgiving and positive you sounded when this adoption
didn't work out. I just read your link to the Boulder Humane Society's open
adoption program and now
I understand. What a great approach! I know of many pet-worthy people in
our area who
have really been
PM, wendy wrote:
This is assuming that the unvaccinated cats were not
already born with it or carrying it; we seem to never
be able to say for sure that that wasn't the case.
This virus is SO frustrating sometimes!!!
:)
Wendy
--- Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just a quick point
on
our half-wall, all staring intently at the tv, (greyhounds on
Animal Planet). They are so darling!
(:o{
Beth
On 3/20/07, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Gloria,
I believe it was Bonnie that brought home a false negative
kitten that possibly infected 3 of 6 indoor cats. If I
Sending positive thoughts for Mama Kitty, hope the
4:00 appointment goes well.
Hugs,
Beth
On 3/20/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm worried about Mama Kitty this morning.
She was diagnosed almost a year ago - and rebounded very well with
Acemannan. She's had a wonderful
Hi,
Just a quick point, it is probably safe to mix
VACCINATED negatives with your positive.
There is at least one list member who had 3
unvaccinated cats turn positive after unknowingly
mixing with an felv+...
Regards,
Beth
On 3/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donna,
A lot of us here
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