Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
When my mom was in her seventies she got scammed by some guy selling securities -- he told her she wouldn't lose money, and she ended up losing like $5,000. She felt so foolish on top of losing the money, which on a fixed income was not going to replenish itself, and of course I felt bad that she felt bad, and so very angry at this young snake oil salesman who preyed on her and others her age. That made me hypersensitive to the plight of older people, how easy it can be to take advantage of them and how at a loss some of them are in a world where technology and change can overwhelm even those of us who can keep somewhere near the cutting edge. Arlene and others like her are in my thoughts daily. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks unable to take care of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming huge. folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them run a pet-food bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a number of places, that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans can't afford to get the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in some places, there are programs that are funded by the United Way--they just don't get much publicity. social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have companion animals in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups to help, but it doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming the system, so i'm sure it's not now. sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look around: if you have an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, or is feeding ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because you're into coupons, and you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you see)--etc etc etc. MC On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Sue Frank Koren fs...@roadrunner.comwrote: I belong to a cat forum on-line. One of the members who is a well respected TNR person posted this the other day and I have not been able to stop thinking of this poor lady: There is a town south of tucson. Very poor and colorful characters live there. Its a dumping ground for people who abandon their companion cats and dogs. There is a woman who has worked with us to S/N the abandoned cats in her yard. She is devoted to these cats and feeds them and watches out for them. Last year her husband developed pancreatic cancer and died. We found out yesterday she is going to loose her house and has been using her food stamps to buy cat food for her companion indoor cats. her beloved dog is having serious health problems and she doesnt have money to take him to a vet. These animals have helped her get thru her hard times. Our group has been supplying her with food for the ferals but didnt know she didnt have money for her indoor animals. We are going to try to raise money to help her dog go to the vet and help her with food for her indoor cats. When I PM'd her asking how to help this poor woman this was her response: I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay pal if that would be convenient to donate there. http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for Arlene. It made me sad all day thinking how awful it must be to face those things alone in your elderly years. I'm sure none of us picture our lives happening like that. Plus a lot of the older female generation are not self-sufficient women like we are today. I know my mom is always wanting a man to do chores and figure things out for her. (she is 84) when her daughters are perfectly capable of doing alot of the stuff! Its just plain wrong when the elderly fall on hard times like this with no recourse. Medical bills bankrupt so many families. Please keep this woman in your prayers and thoughts. We are going to have to try to move her colony of cats because once she is gone they dont have a prayer to be looked after in this community. Her name is Arlene. I am posting Arlenes story here with permission from the woman who posted it in our cat forum. Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be
Re: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS
Awww. Sweetest of Bridge vibes to Flanagan, and hugs to y'all at Sids. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:46 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS Well we sadly lost another one of our Sids kids.Flanagan was quite the spunky boy.He was an orange tiger that LOVED to wash windows! He has had his ups and downs in the passed six months.And just recently got a bunch of his feisty silliness back,even just this Monday he helped me do the special feedings and kept me company.He passed away during the night last night and I feel for the volunteers that went in and found him this morning.I would have been devastated.We knew his time was getting shorter but he just made a major comeback.Maybe he was just giving us a last glimpse of the Flanny we have ALL came to love.We love you baby boy. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list
Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra air? Wacky! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her mouth and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues. The vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they assumed nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which depleted the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what it's worth Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM To: Felv talk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list I appreciate everyones concern thoughts. Looking back at what I've written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what was/is going on with Grrr. I've been a little emotional these last few days! I took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult time doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night sunday, and it was getting progressively worse as hours passed. I had consulted with my vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was not displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious distress or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing Monday morning. He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his weakness was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood tests that led to the leukemia diagnosis. The vet believes it likely that the weakness instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological symptoms were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend, exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization long car rides- he doesn't travel well either. Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look handsome growl. The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain management, to see if it helped him get around easier. Just got him home and he's looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be home. We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust him- obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I am, as has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a bit awkward physically, and that makes me happy! Amy _ Windows LiveT Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.
Hi, Amy -- I'm sorry your baby isn't doing well, and I'm even sorrier that diagnosis and treatment need to be ruled by, as you say, your credit line. We've all been at this point, I think. Part of the nastiness of this disease is that it's expensive all around, from the frequent vet visits to the food and supplements, to the emotional expense. Unlike many of the kitties on this list, my FeLV kitty, Patches, turned up on our doorstep one night and was gone within two months. I don't know if I could have afforded his care in the long run, and it absolutely bites to have to think in those terms about a little soul in your care. I have a cat that sounds a lot like Grrr -- thankfully he's been healthy all his life, except, y'know, for the psychosis. ;-) Best of luck with whatever your vet comes up with to treat him. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list. Thanks for the welcome kind words, Gary Laurie. My vet believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of reach financially. Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved cat based on our credit lines. He's having a rough time getting around. Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly good patient. That may be the understatement of the month. He is slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc. He's getting a cortisol shot to see if it improves his mobility/comfort an injectable, long term antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune suppressive effects of the cortisol. He eats like a horse, so we're going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well. Any one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please share as I continue to dredge through the archives. My other two are keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies vax. I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for the support! _ Hotmail(r) is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_0320 09 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL
I'm so sorry, Heather. It sounds like you are doing the exact right thing for Bashful now. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to her, and hopes for a passing free from fear and full of the knowledge that she was loved. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Duke, Melanie Subject: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue losses in the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so behind on all fronts However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals, Bashful, will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so that many thoughts will be with her. Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10 years, she disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers at the Library where she has lived for so many years. When she showed back up she was clearly in dire need of help. Elaine her caregiver called me for help trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the first night but just a bit of food made her choke cough so horribly, we had tears in our eyes just hearing watching. Her neck was very, very swollen impairing her ability to eat and walk. We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle aspirate confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma. We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and already unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to be a way to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad state. One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop trap is leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments. Bashful was not FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma. We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've actually got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason (CRF, FIV+, along with Toxoplasmosis possible eye tumor which has not progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put Bashful through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good enough for the time to have been of quality for her. She is very stressed at my vet and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon. Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help you--you will not be forgotten. Heather ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] add Hambone to the bridge list(not FELV)
Sometimes they just plain run out of steam. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to good old Hambone, and hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] add Hambone to the bridge list(not FELV) Hambone died yesterday. I've had Hambone as a foster cat since Jan 2004, when Susan brought me a couple of black FIV+ kitties (not FELV), one was Hambone. He had been in the rescue group for a year or two, was originally from the city animal shelter, obviously a stray, very friendly. Everybody loved Hambone. Within the last year he developed high blood pressure, and was on medication for that. He was obviously old, maybe 17-18, though we couldn't tell exactly his age. He had 1 ear that seemed to have stuff coming out of it at times, and stopped eating at some point recently. He had some red spots above his eye, and the eye started to squint and shut. Recently he'd started walking around and sticking his head in corners. He got stuck behind the hot water heater, and it was very hard to get him out. There was something going on in his head, and the vet wasn't sure what, but it seemed to be causing him pain and disorientation, and it was getting worse. We helped our old friend to the bridge yesterday, told him we loved him, and thanked him for all his help. He was a great and beloved kitty friend. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Adoption
Hi, Mike -- Can you have your negative cat vaccinated? Lots of success on this list intermingling. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MIKE JANUS Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Adoption I have a stray cat that looks completely healthy. After a check up at the vet, I found out that she is Felv positive. The trouble is that I have dogs and a cat (felv negative) so I keep the stray cat quarantined. She's a great cat, very friendly, and I'm looking for a home for her (preferrably one that would treat her with acemannan.) I live in Chicago and am looking for someone relatively close by. Any possible leads would be appreciated. Mike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding
Oh, I'm so sorry. She's just so young! You'll get more good advice here, but quickly, you should get some A/D from your vet. It's stinky in a way cats love, and it's a paste. You can try syringing it right from the can, or you can water it down and blend it and squirt it down the throat. It's richer than regular canned food. Or you can go and get some Gerber meat baby food, making sure there are NO ONIONS in it. Good luck with your baby. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of mdgallo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding My Macy is only 10 1/2 mos. and I took her to the vet yesterday because she had become lethargic and wasn't playing. My son is one of the vet techs so they know us and have been with Macy since we got her at 10 wks old. She was a feral cat in the neighborhood. We even tried catnip on her favorite toy, Mr. Lion. After an exam, urinalysis and blood work, the vet came in and just stood there, too upset to talk. Macy's blood count is so bad they don't know how she's even walking, although she still jumps up on furniture but not with much energy. They said she only has a few days. I've read about assisted feeding but don't recall anyone saying what they're feeding the cat. She is still eating a very small amount but if more is going to help her, we're willing to try anything. I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm so sorry that Jazzman and Valentino left you -- gentle Bridge vibes to them, and hugs to those at Sids who cared about them. Vibes for Oscar and Flanagan, and also gentle Bridge vibes for the other kitty you lost. What a sad few days! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:39 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :( Well we lost our Jazzman today,I knew last night that it would be the last time I saw him so I told him that I loved him at least 100 times.Just so he heard it at least one last time before he passed.I was hoping the prayers would have helped.They have helped Oscar so far,he seems to be feeling much better.Also could you keep our Flanagan in your prayers too he is not feeling well.It has been a sad couple of weeks in our rescues.We lost a Crash cat too this week. :( Thanks Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Trudi (was: PCR test reliability)
I wonder if maybe the Retopix tingles or stings a little or maybe feels unexpectedly cool or warm on the skin. Or maybe since the lesions seem to be healing, Trudi is feeling itchy and the medicine makes it worse? Glad you got good news about your other two girls! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Trudi (was: PCR test reliability) I have some good news: my two little ones, Ginny and Babette, are negatives and well. Ginny has been vaccinated two times already (she is two y.o.) and Babette is only 6 months and we have to wait after she recover from her operation to vaccine her. My dear Trudi is now taking: - Baytril for any infection - Orozyme for stomatitis - Ribes pet (vitamin E) My vet also gave me Retopix (Aldemidrol) spot on to control dermatitis, but when i put it on Trudi, she starts licking herself and her hair away and to me it seems worse. I don't understand! In these days, after taking Baytril, it seemed a bit better. In the places where she had lesions now she has crusts. But with this drops she becomes obsessed and bite and licks herself. Do you have any experience of something similar? Stefania Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes
I was about to mention this myself, thanks for saving me the time. I'd add that hepatic lipidosis in itself does not constitute permanent liver failure, and can be treated by feeding high-protein, low-fat food, by force or esophageal tube if necessary if the cat isn't eating enough on its own. I've done this with 3 cats and while it's no walk in the park, they all pulled through it and their enzymes eventually returned to normal and they could resume a normal diet. I don't know, either, if the elevated enzymes can be a function of an infection or not. I'd say the best advice until you can get Orlando to a trustworthy vet (my God, the one you saw sounds like a piece of work!) is to encourage him to eat all the lean stuff you can get into him. Good luck! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes Elevated liver enzymes can mean Hepatic lipidosis (liver failure). If he is eating less than normal he can go into liver failure. If it is that, he is critical. I would ask her for a copy of the blood work and ask her how elevated they are and consider getting him to another vet/specialist (and/or get the numbers and provide them to the Feline Assisted feeding group). You might join the FAF yahoo group. Also, I do not know what elevated white blood cells mean other than an infection. Maybe liver enzymes elevate during infectious process ~ I don't know the answer. Sounds like you might benefit from doing some internet research?? I had elevated liver enzymes and they discovered tumors on my liver. Good luck! L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:26 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the bathroom rug just over a week ago. I figured out who was doing it on Saturday and got him in to the vet on Monday. They tested his urine and blood and the vet called me today with the results. She said his liver enzymes are elevated and his white cell levels are high. She is going to put him on an antibiotic and re-do the tests in two weeks. (When I asked the name of the anti-biotic she side stepped the question and just said is is a pill wrapped in foil. I am currently looking for another vet because there is only one vet in this practice that I fully trust and it is very hard to get to see him.) Anyway, can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated? The advise I have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the advise from this particular vet in the past, so I would very much appreciate any input. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes
The first thing that leaps to my mind, from experience, is hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease) which generally happens when a cat isn't eating enough to sustain it, its body tries to use its fat reserve for nourishment, and the liver gets overloaded with fat. The causes for the cat not eating enough could be a lot of things -- something that makes it painful to eat like stomatitis or pancreatitis, general blahness that decreases the appetite, etc. I had two cats sick at once with elevated liver enzymes, plus neurological involvement, and we think they somehow ingested some household toxin, although the other four cats did not. Is Orlando eating all right? Once the cause of the not-eating is cleared up, treatment for the liver is to stimulate the appetite but to feed high-protein, low-fat food for a while. Don't know of any other condition that would account for the uncharacteristic peeing, though, and your vet made no mention of diabetes? Hope it's all just due to infection, though, and good luck consulting another vet, the one you saw sounds like a piece of work. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:26 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the bathroom rug just over a week ago. I figured out who was doing it on Saturday and got him in to the vet on Monday. They tested his urine and blood and the vet called me today with the results. She said his liver enzymes are elevated and his white cell levels are high. She is going to put him on an antibiotic and re-do the tests in two weeks. (When I asked the name of the anti-biotic she side stepped the question and just said is is a pill wrapped in foil. I am currently looking for another vet because there is only one vet in this practice that I fully trust and it is very hard to get to see him.) Anyway, can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated? The advise I have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the advise from this particular vet in the past, so I would very much appreciate any input. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability
Stef -- Sorry you're having all this trouble and worry right now. About FIV, you are right and your vet is wrong. It is VERY hard to transmit other than through fighting (deep bites) and sex. It's much less contagious than FeLV, and even FeLV appears to be not as contagious as originally thought. I'm on a feral cat list where there has been some discussion of FeLV, and people have said they've seen cat colonies where they know that some cats are FeLV+, and if it's as transmissible as we're supposed to believe, the whole colonies should have gotten sick and died, and they just haven't. The trouble is that for some reason some vets don't keep up with new research as much as they should, and keep giving wrong information, and more importantly, don't know the right things to do to keep the cats as healthy as possible or to treat them properly when they do get sick. Your cats are very cute! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stefania Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability Hi Chris, thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-) They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and many owners who don't bother to test their cats! What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a prison for them. On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope. My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so... I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel. Has anyone had experience with dermatitis? For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin. If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures. It's www.trumiro.com Hi all! Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Juno Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm so sorry Juno left you. Hugs to all who cared about her. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge
Terrie, my deepest condolences on your mother's passing. I know how hard that is. She sounds like a lovely person, and I'm glad she was able to get her kitty fix at your place even while living at the convalescent home. I'm sure she's happily cuddling all our Bridge babies now. Thank you for telling us her story. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tatorb...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge Hello everyone, I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel little better. To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior emails. Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording. Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone calls, also in person to my mother and myself. With great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father. I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed and do litter boxes. She was an avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens. She was a reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's. Her breed was Siamese and Persian cats. In the last 20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her home. They were given very much needed love and care. When she would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the last year she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home. She would call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my personal kitties. So she could be around them all and give them plenty of love. She took such pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly. Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away with it. Her services will be at a later date. I will let you all know. My brother is putting article in the local newspaper about her within the next day or two. Thanks again for all your support in the past and present regarding my mother! Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright (c) 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd
Emily, congrats to you and Tofu for having found each other, and to Kelley for babysitting until you did! Here's vibes that you have a long and happy life with each other. FIV is much less problematic than FeLV; often an FIV+ cat can live out its full lifespan asymptomatically, and since FIV is much harder to transmit (basically deep puncture wounds and sex) speutering should take care of the biggest risk factors. And yes, keeping them healthy is pretty much the same as with an FeLV+ kitty. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emily Hunter Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway, I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please share! Thanks! -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA.
I had not heard about this, Terrie, but I rejoice with you, and mourn the dogs who couldn't be helped. Puppy mills are a national disgrace. I think the tide is turning, though, although too slowly. Congratulations to the agencies performing the raids and caring for the poor animals afterward. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tatorb...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:01 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA. Hi everyone, I'm sure by now you have heard of all the different raids of the puppy mills here in Washington. We are rank 1st in Puppy Mills as I hate to say. I've been waiting a long time for this to happen. Finally after years something has been done. I live about 4 miles from the first raid. There are 3 different people involved with this. A mother and 2 daughters possibly an aunt as well. Mind you these people live in very nice homes. So they made their money from the puppies/dogs. The first raid consisted of 155 dogs/puppies of the small breeds, 4 cats, 6 large dogs, and a few birds. City of Goldbar. Second raid consisted of over 100 dogs/puppies. City of Snohomish. Third raid had over 400 dogs/puppies, few cats, livestock and horses that were extremely underweight. City of Mount Vernon. Many of these dogs are being sheltered in the local shelters and foster homes (Everett/Mount Vernon) and the fairgrounds in Skagit County. Some have been euthanized there was nothing the Vets could do because they were beyond medical help. They are all matted and have sores all over their bodies. Many of them have defects that comes with inner breeding. Malnourished and underweight. They had to live in their own waste. I've seen some of these dogs it made me want to puke because of the smell and the sight of them. It made me so mad that I wanted to kill these breeders for allowing this to h appen to these innocent animals. Mind you this is a family ran business. Sorry, I don't have the direct links right now. If you pull up the news and newspapers for WA. it will show some of what has happened regarding these raids. Not all information will be displayed. I don't need to read or hear as I know what's been happening but nothing could be done. Let's hope and pray some good and justice will come out of this for the dogs/puppies sakes. Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright (c) 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir =http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%2 6bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS
Sally, truly a bummer about your workplace, I believe the attitude out there right now is be thankful you have a job -- never mind that you can't make ends meet on what they pay you. Hopefully things will get better in the coming year or so. I hope we can all at least hang on to what we've got until the economy starts to bounce back. About your week without pay, my housemate is given furlough days at the factory where she works that sound like fun (if you're in the Army!) but are unpaid, and she can file for unemployment for these days. It's like half-pay but it's better than nothing. Are you able to do this? Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS Thanks Gloria.. The place I work is in a bit of an uproar.. call it the economy Some of us have been laid off including a good Friend of mine. We all had our hours cut..I live paycheck to paycheck like many.. so a 12.5% cut was too much Now they are telling us we have to take a week w/o pay off, DO WHAT Plus the board met again yesterday and every time they meet something else goes down I had worried about our sweet girl if somehow we close.. She now has a permanent home in heaven. I wonder if she picked up on our stress. Maybe her recent friendliness was to comfort us. It certainly did. She will me missed. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS
Sally -- my housemate took the medical coding class, online, a few years ago, at which point the bottom apparently dropped out of the medical coding biz, at least around here. So she puts stickers on at In-Sink-Erator. Her furlough days are usually only 1 day at a time, and she can still get unemployment for that 1 day. Things have changed a lot in the unemployment area since the last time I was on it, let me tell you! Maybe it would be good for you to consult state or federal rules on that... Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS Hi diane They are very shrewd where I am employed. They made the furlough short enough so it does not qualify for unemployment. I do believe things will pick up again, but I am preparing for another career. I am getting ready to take a certificate program in Medical billing and coding. Of course right now no one is hiring but when it breaks loose, I hope to change fields. I am only 55 :-). Thanks Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS
Sally, I'm sorry you lost Baby Girl just as she was getting friendly. I'm glad you were there to help her at the end. Gentle Bridge vibes to her and hugs to you, Pat and everyone else who looked after her. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:56 PM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS Please add sweet Baby Girl to the CLS if possible she was not positive but had 7 good years as a Feral cat next to where I work. Here is what happened: Yesterday I noticed the cat at work (a TNR feral) named Baby Girl was not feeling good. She has had a URI on and off, but never seemed affected by her. This time she was not eating and even allowed me to touch her. Normally she would have swatted me. We discussed taking her to the ER but we did not have a way to catch her or anything to put her in and it was closing. Today before I even got to work Pat, who is really Baby Girls momma with the help of another girl caught her. She had not eaten any food left for her yesterday. So Angel first went to a vet that is one street over from us. They could not see her gave names of other vets. I already decided to call my vet who is also close. She could not be seen until 3:30 first . She was in distress and I had noticed she was cold to the touch although she was kept by a heater all day. I drive her to Junior's vet. Since she is feral I also notified the guy, Phil who looks after her colony. She is only one of 3 or 4 cats that hang out next to us. He said they would probably test her for FELV in fact he wanted her tested. They vet had a hard time getting blood she was so wek she did not fight. Her temp was 94. The vet though she would test positive but she was negative for FELV and FIV. She had pnuemonia and was now coughing blood and she was shutting down. The vet was sure she was dying and euthanized her. Of course it was a heart stick and I decided I did not need to watch. It was over before I even was out of the room. The test came back after she was pts. I called Phil to let him know. He will adopt out any who are adoptable and has kept many cats himself. Anyway I will miss Baby Girl. She was just getting freindly after 6 years and would rub up against all that she used to run away from. The vet was so kind she is going to bury her in her yard . She is now an Angel. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed 3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
Jennifer, have you consulted a vet who knows more about FeLV? That could be crucial in Mr. Darcy's treatment. You can just call vets in your local area and ask if they are knowledgeable about FeLV, and if so make an appointment with one of them and get him checked out. If nothing else, you'd be more sure about where Mr. Darcy stands. Good luck to you and eat something! vibes to Mr. Darcy. I love his name! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Dykhouse Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan Hello all, I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell. He was symptom free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of his leukemia. We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 lbs 5 oz, which is not good. He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at night. Anything we can do to help him would be great. Is there a website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. Thanks so much! Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 -0600From: Lisapony lisap...@aol.comSubject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id: 04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.comContent-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075 voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: Sally Davis putty...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d 750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do not have experience because my cat died before this became readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it on some of FELV positivecats Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed 3 _ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten
Lorrie and Gary -- I have no practical advice here, just vibes coming for both these babies. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten One of my FeLV cats is very anemic now and her anemia just hasn't responded to treatment, I will lose her this week as she has now refused to let me syringe feed her anymore, she has always been very good about it and about taking meds and now wants no part of it. There are many things you can try to get the anemia reversed, Epogen as previously mentioned, Immunoregulin, etc., but you may need a transfusion to give them time to work. Unfortunately, for my baby the transfusion didn't seem to do much good at all and her numbers just keep going down. One of my first FeLV kittens had the same problem with his back legs, over a period of a couple of days they just stopped working and he couldn't pee. Tried a lot of different things but never got better and I never found out what caused it, please post if your vet finds out the cause. You might want to join the anemia group on yahoo. Gary - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten One of our FelV kittens is very anemic. Has anyone ever tried iron suppliments? We went back to the vet yesterday, and got her vitamins and iron, and hope this will buy her a bit more time. She is 8 months old and only weighs 3 1/2 pounds. She didn't actually lose the weight, she just never gained anymore weight than that, as she is also a small cat. She recently lost control of her back legs and the vet isn't sure this is caused by the FelV. He thinks it may be a neurological thing.. This happened suddenly about a week ago. First she was wobbly and then she got so she couldn't stand at all, and also lost control of her bladder and bowels. She is still eating and does not seem to be in any pain. Otherwise I'd put her to sleep. She is my daughter's favorite cat, and she doesn't want to do this unless the cat is in distress. I just wondered if any of you had ever seen this lose of mobility in a FelV cat? Advice please. Thanks, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3698 (20081217) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article
Argh! My mother got C. diff when she was in a nursing home, and it was a horrible horrible thing. It didn't kill her, but it took months to clear up. She had fallen and broken a hip and a wrist, and the constant diarrhea made everything much much harder for her and her caretakers. I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get it from visiting her! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article http://bulletin.aarp.org/opinions/othervoices/articles/a_hospital_germ_o n_the_warpath_.html Opinion - A Hospital Germ on the WarpathYou can take some simple steps to avoid infection By Betsy McCaughey - November 1, 2008 - From the AARP Bulletin print edition Grace Voros was 85 and enjoying life, watching her family grow and taking romantic walks with the man she fell in love with 61 years ago, when she took a minor fall. She went to the hospital for an x-ray, where tests confirmed she had no broken bones. But while there, she contracted an infection no one in the family had ever heard about, C. diff, and died. C. diff, short for Clostridium difficile, is raging through hospitals, infecting hundreds of thousands of patients a year. The bacteria contaminate every surface, including bed rails, bed tables, nurses' uniforms, privacy curtains, faucets and call buttons. When patients touch these surfaces and then pick up food without washing their hands, they ingest the germ. Any patient taking antibiotics who ingests C. diff is in danger of developing severe diarrhea, leading to dehydration, inflammation of the colon and even death. Routine cleaning isn't enough to protect you from C. diff. Researchers at Case Western Reserve and the Cleveland VA Medical Center found that after routine cleaning at a hospital, 78 percent of surfaces were still contaminated. To kill the germ, you need to use bleach. When surfaces are not properly disinfected, the results can be deadly. At Thomas Jefferson Medical Center in Philadelphia, three consecutive patients occupying the same room came down with C. diff. One died. Staffs at many U.S. hospitals are woefully uninformed about what to do. One study reported that 39 percent of medical personnel didn't know that C. diff could be spread on stethoscopes, blood pressure cuffs and other equipment. About two-thirds of medical staff were unaware they should clean their hands with soap and water, because alcohol sanitizers don't kill this superbug. What can you do to protect yourself? Insist that everyone treating you clean their hands before touching you. Clean your own hands thoroughly before eating. Do not touch your hands to your lips. Do not place your food or utensils on any surface except your plate. Ask family to bring wipes containing bleach to clean the items around your bed. When you leave the hospital, assume any belongings you bring home are contaminated. Do not mix clothes from the hospital with the family wash; wash with bleach. Regular laundry detergents do not kill C. diff. If you are visiting someone in the hospital, be careful about eating in the cafeteria or a restaurant where the staff go in their scrubs or uniforms. These uniforms could be covered in invisible superbugs. More than 20 percent of nurses' uniforms had C. diff on them at the end of a workday, according to one study. Imagine sliding into a restaurant booth after a nurse has left the germ on the table or the seat. You could easily pick it up on your hands and then ingest it with your sandwich. Poor hospital hygiene and lax practices such as wearing scrubs in public are putting all of us at risk. That's why I founded RID, the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, so that other families won't have to go through what Grace Voros' family suffered. Betsy McCaughey is a former lieutenant governor of New York. On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:27 AM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will do. dorlis catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. Evidently it's highly contagious. tonya dlg...@windstream.net wrote: just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Woodgie and Grey to the candlelightingceremony
Gentle Bridge vibes to Woodgie. That's way too young, but if as you say there's a history of heart trouble in her family, it's probably a good age for her. Sorry it was so sudden though, it must have been so horrible for you. Hugs. Never too late to acknowledge Grey. He's probably welcoming Woodgie to the Bridge along with your other angels. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Woodgie and Grey to the candlelightingceremony Dear Belinda, Would you please add my Woodgie's name to the candlelighting ceremony list? She was not feline leukemia positive. She was 9 years old, a sweet little tortie girl, who had severe allergies all her life, including those awful rodent ulcers on her lip now and then. I don't know what she died of but since she was doing great only hours beforehand, and demanding her lunch and eating it heartily, I am thinking heart. Two of her siblings died young of heart problems but since she survived her youth, I thought she was safe. She died Thanksgiving day, November 27, 2008. Grey died on May 17th, 2008, at age 16. I feel terrible I forgot to ask you to add his name to the list at that time, apparently. He was not FeLV positive, either. He was really my daughter's cat, although he ended up with me for most of his life. He was a friendly, bottle-cap fetching lovable comedian, all grey but with a white splash on his chest for flair. He died of liver cancer. Thanks, Belinda, Anne in Michigan with FeLV angels Buggs, Jimi Too Cool, Simms, Nala and Sammy and other beloveds waiting for me at the bridge ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (dowe still have one?)
B.B. sounds like a great little soul. It's so hard when some seemingly inconsequential thing becomes life-or-death. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to B.B. and hugs to you for your love and care. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (dowe still have one?) One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2, 2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list. He was a double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue. I've fostered him since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat. But he developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with that ever since. He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of days. He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had other things going on, I'm not sure. B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties
Hi, Amber Welcome to the list, and condolences on losing Parker. People can be so very stupid. Of course you're sad about Parker, and will be sad when it's Neo's time. But unless you keep only, like, elephants or gorillas or parrots for pets, chances are good that you'll outlive even a healthy kitty, and you'll be sad then anyway. And to the other argument, you can bet that if someone's human family member becomes very ill, they aren't saying, better snuff Mom, she's taking the doctors' attention away from other people. You're right, these babies didn't ask for this to happen to them, and they deserve some kindness for whatever time they have. And you'll see on this list, some of them really can have a lot of time left! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amber Gilewski Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties Hello everyone, I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of you in advance for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV positive cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I knew their lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give them a happy, comfortable life before they left this world. Some friends and family members have given us grief over purposely adopting these sick kitties. I've heard things to the effect of You'll be sad when they die to You're keeping a healthy cat from having a home. But I didn't (and still don't care) what the naysayers have to say. I know that I'm doing a good service to these cats that otherwise would be euthanized before they needed to be or would be without a loving home. Someone (who was in my corner) told me that she worked at a shelter once and no one would even play with the FeLV cats, let alone adopt them. This solidified my belief for the need of loving homes of these forgotten felines! Their happiness is more important than my sadness, as profound as it may be. I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we got more recently in September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death as he suddenly collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. It was late at night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. Other vet services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his last few breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but couldn't). But he died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he didn't die alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :( Our other cat, Neo is doing great! He's not showing any symptoms, has put on weight since we got him, and has a strong appetite! I recently read about LTIC/Imulan and told my vet about it. He didn't know too much about it as it's a newer medication, but I asked him to order some for Neo. It's quite expensive, but if I would have known about it sooner I would have tried it on little baby Parker to help him. Since Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what effect it will have on him, but I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as we can for as long as we can. I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this with their cat and could tell me how it works out. Also, did your cat have any symptoms before or were they asymptomatic before starting treatment? Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your beloved cats! Amber _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the I'm a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone
Sue, I'm so very sorry. Gentle rest to your little guy. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS. I feel like a very large piece of me is missing. The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him. He was terrified, cowering between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' house. He had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my brother used to live. When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very sick, full of parasites, starving and near death. She and my brother nursed him back to physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him. That day Lee caught him in a blanket and handed him to me. I sat with him and gently pet him and talked to him. Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left that day he reached up to me and touched noses. After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him. When I brought him home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and to keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few days later his feline leukemia test came back positive. Buzz was going to live in the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat tree and pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I would spend hours with him. I was working on a computer project and he kept me company with that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April. At that point it was clear that keeping him separate was not working. We vaccinated the other cats for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house. He loved his new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to watch what was going on. His favorite place was a window bench that looks out on the bird feeder. At night he either slept on a ledge right behind my head or cuddled up next to me, purring. When July came I noticed that he seemed to have no energy and was not eating. When we took him to the vet the diagnosis was anemia. With heavy doses of prednesolone his health and red blood count began to come back. I was so happy watching my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite. While he was recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap. He loved sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his fur. He would sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and hold him. In the evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser pointer. His blood was being tested every couple of weeks and soon it was in the normal range. We began to back off on the prednesolone. For several weeks everything was going well until the week that his blood count started going the wrong direction. I prayed that it was just the one time but unfortunately not. That horrible disease was in his bone marrow and the medication was no longer helping. For the last several weeks I watched as he became more and more lethargic. We offered him every special treat we could think of to keep him eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost to the end. He would sit all day on his window seat and for the last week we carried him to the litter box. He always watched every move I made as I moved around the kitchen. Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead of watching, I knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took him to the vet I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at the bridge. Then he went to sleep in my arms. I will miss him so very much, but now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Trish Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm so sorry you lost Trish. That happened to one of the kitties at the Katrina shelter I volunteered at for a few months. Frenzy had just gotten adopted, and then they found out she was full of cancer. It seemed so unfair that she had been through so much already, and then that. Gentle Bridge vibes to Trish, and hugs to you for all the love you gave her. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:42 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Trish Please add to the CLS :( Ok so this was another horrible heartbreak for me.I dont know if I ever mentioned Trish before.She and her 2 other sisters came to us felv pos.Just little babies.The moment I saw little Trishs beautiful crazy paint job of a face my heart skipped a beat!! I cried and fell totally in love with her.So I made it my personal duty to make sure she knew she was loved,same as my Melina,I think they thought their names were I LOVE YOU!! :) Little Trish always told me she loved me too. :) She and her sisters were adopted by a great guy that volunteers with us.He took them home not even 2 weeks ago.He took her into Jen today for some issues she was having,and Jen found that she was full of cancer and had blockages.So they let her go peacefully.She was strong little girl.My heart is hurting very muvh right now. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Lisa -- I think what Chris suggests below is very important. Your baby needs a vet whose choices aren't limited to euthanize or isolate. Best of luck in finding a great, FeLV-knowledgeable vet. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] So now what? I would perhaps seek out a vet who has had some experience with treating the things that come up w. a FELV cat. My original vet, who I loved, honestly told me he hadn't had much experience an helped me find someone who did. I ended up with a friend's vet who it turned out was the vet for a small little FELV rescue in the area. He's laid back, takes everything in stride, and has a lot of patients in mixed households. Its real important, I found, to have a vet who works with you This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo's story...
I think it's important to share a kitty's story when he or she passes -- at other times too, of course, but particularly then. It gives the bereaved some closure, it celebrates the kitty's life and tells people just how unique that one little furball really was. The listmom on another list -- some of you know Gesine -- thinks it's very important to tell a kitty its own story occasionally, and in times of crisis like illness or the kitty coming to the end of its time. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo's story... Thank you all for your kind words and to those who still struggle with sick kitties, I know how hard it is and how hopeful you all are. This board continues to help with an incredible wealth of very practical down to earth info... It was because of all of you that I knew instantly what the vet was saying when she said lymphoma. I knew the options and possibilities and could ask the right questions and could make an informed decision when I needed to. Romeo's story is not unique==I really posted it for all those who are just getting into the FELV world-for them to know that no matter what, its all worth it. I found myself smiling tonight as I thought about all those goofy things he did-I don't think he was ever allowed to be a kitten and he made up for it as he got older-he loved playing just like little kittens do. No matter the worry or the cost, giving him that opportunity was worth it whether he stayed 5 years or 5 months or 5 days. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Chris, thank you for telling us Romeo's story. He's surely telling all the Bridge kitties a similar story, but it's all about how great YOU are and how he trained you into a loving mommy. Hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when I'd whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn't miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybody's food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he'd scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we've had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home ready-but he turned out to be positive and they couldn't handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren't that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby steps-first the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, he'd come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his face-this is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get out-he rarely sat at the window-the couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you'd ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But he'd jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to him-all jealousy, I'm sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. He'd never been real sick before-had some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so I'd always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. He'd been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard-like he couldn't catch his breath. He'd been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him in-ABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming inside-ABSOLUTELY NOT-he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We can't save them forever-but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the
Re: [Felvtalk] Murdoch,Cody,Bijou and London
Sherry, this is good news indeed. May they all continue to prosper. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:31 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Murdoch,Cody,Bijou and London Hi all,as you remember I sent out a prayer and good thought request for these babies.Well I am happy to report that all four seem to be doing very good right now.Bijou did lose her sight,but we think she can still see shadows.Bijou also went home with one of our volunteers and seems very happy.Sorry I took so long on the update.Thank you ALL so much for your kind words and prayers.may all of you and your fuzzer butts stay healthy. Sherry and my 5 fuzzer butts Rafferty,CouCous,Xander,Tristan and Mystique We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its aweful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] tests
Welcome, Sally. I'm glad you got so many good answers so quickly -- we've all been through what you're going through now, some many times over. It's great that you and your vet are working together on this and that you already have a plan. Best of luck to you and the kitties. Nobody can guarantee that there won't still be some crying down the road for you, but at least it won't be from powerlessness and lack of information. This list is a great source of advice, emotional support and good information. Many of us, like me, don't even have an FeLV+ cat anymore, we just stuck around because everybody is so nice! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SALLY NORDSTROM Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] tests You and the others on this site are ANGELS! You will be glad to know that I stopped crying, called my vet, and have a plan of action. Please, keep us in your hearts and heads, I will be asking a lot of questions in the months to come because I am keeping the mom. --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] tests To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 10:36 AM The ELISA test takes a blood sample from the lower leg, and is inexpensive. It's not that accurate, as there are false positives and sometimes false negatives. We had 2 three month old kittens who became negative within 1 month, and one that became negative 3 months later. You can retest after about 2-3 months with the Elisa again. Better yet is the IFA test. It checks whether the felv has reached the bone marrow- the vet sends a blood sample to a lab and is a tad more expensive but much more accurate. However,the best alternative after a positice elisa test is the new PCR test. It's so new you won't see it in many google searches. It can detect even minute quanitites of the virus and is the most accurate test out there- also sent to the lab. Best after two consecutive positive ELISA tests. Your kitties can fight off the virus and change to negative though it's not guaranteed. They probably got it from their mother. Many kittens can and do fight it off which is why early testinf is often inaccurate. In order to do so, you'll need to provide a low stress environment, indoor only home to reduce exposure to germs, premium food mostly canned (wellness, innova evo, natures variety instinct,etc), clean the litterbox and dishes daily and have more than one box, vaccuum and keep them flea and worm free, as well as spend time playing with the kittens and giving them affection, toys, warm places to sleep. There are no guarantees but it is possible to go from positive to negative. Just takes dedication and having hope... And others will tell you a felv positive diagnosis is not a death sentence! There are plenty of people here who have healthy cats with felv that have had long lives. I don't know about financial assistance, but you should try and talk to your vet about payment options. The cheapest ELISA test I found ran about $25-30 here in LA. Also, you can do you best to change their positive status to negative in the next few months. Even if they don't, you can adopt them out when they are a bit older after you've tried or just try to adopt them out now and tell people they are positive for now but could change.. On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:51 PM, SALLY NORDSTROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting real confused about the available tests and their accuracy. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? I had to file a bankruptcy and can't afford testing. Is there someplace that can give me help? How hard is it going to be to place my rescued kittens in homes? What resources should I be using? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have
Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive
Welcome, Brenda! Sorry Spazzy is so ill, but you've come to the right place for info. You will be getting a lot of it in a very short time, but just to start out, your vet is way wrong about the bone marrow biopsy. Yikes! What you need to get is an IFA test. It's much more accurate than the test that would have been done in that long ten minutes -- it's a blood test that's sent to a lab and IT is the way to find out if the disease is in the marrow. You probably need, and I know this can be daunting, to find a vet who is more knowledgeable about FeLV. If yours is willing to learn, that's good but with an already sick kitty you probably need someone who's up to speed now. Here's the mini-drill: lots of love, keep stress levels low, give good food (Iams is pretty good, but there are better ones you can get at the pet shop) with meat as the FIRST ingredient in the list and low on grains. You can give the supplement L-Lysine (from the health food store, not the human stuff from the drugstore, which has bad additives). Your vet may be talking about immunoregulin, which has been a big help to some kitties on this list. Probably you need to reassess Spazzy's condition once the runnies are under control. If he bounces back from that after the Clav, you'll have a better idea of his overall health. It may be that it's just a passing cold not directly related to the FeLV, in which case he may be around for quite a while. Or it could be that he's gotten to the really-sick stage and there may not be much you can do. (That's how it was with my Patches, a stray we brought in who crashed within 6 weeks). In that case, by bringing him in you are giving him the great kindness of a safe and loving place to be for however long rather than out on his own. Bless you for caring for him. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Waterson Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive Hello, I recently took in a stray cat that had been hanging around my neighborhood for some time. He's such a nice boy and I had been feeding him for a few months before I took him in. What made me take him in was he became very sick with an upper respiratory infection and I had just felt so bad because the mucous that was coming from his nose was green, not too mention he was having a hard time breathing. I took him to my Vet who said he was a very sick kitty, he was close to pneumonia treated him with antibiotics and sent us home. I was to follow up with vaccinations and a neuter. He did finish his course of antibiotics, and days after I went on a family vacation for 10 days. My pet sitter stopped by daily to feed my animals, and walk the dogs. I received a call from the pet sitter stating she was sorry but the cat (Spazzy) had ran past her when she was taking the dogs out. I told her not to worry just try calling him and he should come back. Well that went on for days and no Spazzy. When I finally got home from vacation I was worried about him because he had been gone for about a week, I looked around the neighborhood but couldn't find him. Well about a month and a half had passed one morning while I was heading out the door to work, he was sitting at my back door. I was happy to see him, but was concerned because it seemed his upper respiratory infection was back. I brought him in the house, feed and watered him and off to work I went. I called my Vet who was booked for the weekend and couldn't see him until Monday. I was too concerned to wait so I figured it would be best to see a different Vet. Well Mr. Houdini as I like to call him (Spazzy) had gotten out. I was heartbroken and worried because he was sick . I again searched the neighborhood for him but had no luck at finding him. About a week had passed and I spotted him while I was walking my dogs. I was able to grab him, brought him back home and called the Vet. I took him in the following morning but seen a different Vet at the practice. Dr. McGinn had said he was sick but she wanted to check for Feline Leukemia because where he was treated not that long ago chances are he probably did have it. Not too mention he also had ulcers in his mouth which she stated is common for cats with feline L. Well those 10 minutes were very long just waiting, I hoped and prayed it was negative but it turned out he was positive. He was seen 10/13/08 was treated with Amoxi drops, twice a day until gone. Initially he seemed to be getting better, but a week and a half after I noticed he was sneezing but this time no mucous was visible just blood. I called the Vet's office once they opened, I had explained what was going on and was told Dr. McGinn would call me back by the end of the day. She did return my call and said she's changing his antibiotic to something stronger. She put him
Re: [Felvtalk] ALL KITTENS NEGATIVE !!!! YIPPE !!!!!!!!!
I'm so happy for your good news!! The kittens are precious (as all kittens are) and the pic of THE PILE makes me want to join them in the cage. Here are vibes that they all find just the right homes! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ALL KITTENS NEGATIVE YIPPE ! This is a story that I am hoping will give those of you who have a positive Mom, with a litter of kittens, some hope! I was told by so many rescues and cat related people and vets etc that because Mom tested positive, the kitten would no doubt be also. I was also told by the rescue I am working with, that the loner I could wait to test them, the better chance they have of *throwing it off* and they get it in their system from the mom's milk. Well, on October 13th, they *ALL* tested negative !~ So..there is hope for kittens of positive Mom's ! They were born between June 20th and June 27th, so waiting until October gave them lots of time... and it worked! Thank goodness. You can see lots of photos of them and read the story here on my forum. I have the most gorgeous photos of each one by themselves in the bottom post The first post has the story about them and videos of them. Enjoy .it is a wonderful outcome and I hope it encourages anyone who needs it :) :) http://www.animalsspeak.org/2008-09-00-a-rescue-story-successful-not-suc cessful-sigh-t1238.html#p2015 Pamela Myers www.AnimalsSpeak.org Register: http://tinyurl.com/58txeu http://letstalkpetfoods.wordpress.com/ www.ElegantBow-tique.com Quote from various consumers! sigh I called the Pet Food Company and they said their foods are 100% safe ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better. I don't know anything about this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would prevent reoccurrence later? I know chemo is never an easy thing. Hugs to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grumpy Gus is gone
Sam, I'm so sorry you lost Grumpy Gus. I'm glad you were there for him. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Grumpy Gus is gone The abandoned Former Grey Tom Cat that I took in and called Grumpy Gus or Gus for short, has passed on, this disease is horrible, the list of issues he had are long. He sounded like two cats fighting when he meows. He was loved, inside, well fed and had Vet care, unlike so many that do not in the care of Companions. Please add him to Mondays list please. Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Piggee Piggee is gone
Carolyn, I'm so sorry. I'm glad Piggee was happy at the vet's. That's so rare! Gentle Bridge vibes and rest to him. He's telling everykitty up there about his great mommy and his great vet. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Piggee Piggee is gone I'm cross-posting this from the epi-felines yahoo group. Wanted you guys to know I lost another foster...to the dreaded fip, yet again. Thanks for your support. It is with a very heavy heart that I report to you that my Piggee has left me. It is especially sad for me since Piggee and I have only been members since Sept- when he had a weekend of cluster seizures due to a mistake in the pheno dosing. Last time I checked in with the group, Piggee's pheno level had been tested and was too high and I was desperate to get it down b/c his lethargy was so pronounced. However, I took him to the vet Friday morning b/c his lethargy was not getting better, he hadn't eaten, and hadn't had a bm in 2 days, and I noted the dreaded swollen belly of fluid in the stomach (there was). I was praying that I didn't have yet another FIP foster cat on my hands...altho I realized that alone could now explain the seizures that began in July. I left him with the vet over the weekend b/c I had a bad feeling and I have had 2 foster cats 'crash' on me over weekends in the past (and my boyfriend was in the hospital all week and being released Friday and I needed to get him home and settled, etc etc). I did not feel bad about leaving Piggee Piggee at the vets b/c he LOVED his vet and the whole time we were there, he kept trying to get out of the room when he would hear his vet's distinctive voice--trying to get to his vet! He loved being at the clinic (I don't know why? But he did!). He would just purr and purr and get all perky. The vet drew fluid on Friday and said we would need to await the full analysis but it was bright yellow like urine-- which told me to prepare myself for FIP. I had already decided if it came back FIP, I would let him go b/c having 2 fosters die of it in Jan and Feb last year, I didn't want him to suffer more- especially since it made him epileptic. Over the weekend, apparently, Piggee did wonderfully (as I knew he would b/c he loves the vet and the clinic)-- he ate, he peed, he had a bm, and he was overall totally perked up per the clinic staff and just having a good time. But the vet called today and said he did great over the weekend, but he crashed this a.m. out of nowhere. He threw up in his crate and it was full of 'coffee grounds'- which was blood. AND the full fluid analysis came back and it was FIP. So I told the doctor we will put him down. I asked what Piggee was doing and the doc said unfortunately, he crashed bad and he's pretty much comatose, non-responsive, on oxygen and they had to trach him w/o anesthesia so he was not happy. That broke my heart and I told the doctor I would be there as soon as possible to get there to say goodbye and let him go-- which is what I did. When I put my hand on Piggee, he barely opened his mouth and let out a low, long, meow and the vet said 'that is the first time all day he's said anything.' As I pet him and stroked his nose (like I always did with him), he continued to talk to me like that and the doctor just kept saying that it's the most responsive he's been- that he hasn't even had much of a pupil or eye reflex, but he's talking to me. So he knew I was there for him at that final moment..., as I have been there for Monkee, Possee and Brumley in their final moments when they were called home. I will miss my Piggee Piggee so much. I feel bad that I couldn't have done more for him. I know he never would have been given a chance if it hadn't been for me. I was his first foster that got him thru 2 URI's that I thought he would never beat; and I was his final foster and home when the people that adopted him returned him to me in August because of his seizures. He was a perfectly healthy boy, except for the seizures. I wanted to get him on the phenobarbital and treat him and try to give him a chance to beat the seizures-- which inevitably he did do. Thank you to everyone who did offer us advice and support in the brief time that we needed you. God bless all of you that care of epileptic cats everyday. Piggee Piggee thanks you for caring for these most special cats. Caroline Kaufmann and Piggee Piggee...in spirit. See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. See Now _ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi
Robin, I'm so sorry you lost Kiwi. He knows you did everything within your power. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:04 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi Kiwi is with God now. I'm to upset to say anything else right now. Robin ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!
Great news, Sue! Way to go, Tweezer! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:48 PM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] So Happy! Hello everyone! Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with him (Besides being positive) is a secondary infection! No liver stint. No blood parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis. He already looks so much better. His eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and no more watery stools. He actually was playing for the last day or so! Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! Dance!) Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :(
Oh, damn. Gentle Bridge vibes to Sharkey. He knew he was loved. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:55 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :( Well he was going to get to go home with his foster parents when he was well enough to,but he had worsen very quickly. We lost him on the 18th. He was a beautiful gray and white fluffy boy.He had a loving home for 5 months. Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New member
Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV. There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter I rescued have tested positive for FelV. I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate input on the efficacy of the vaccine. I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes, water bowls and mutual grooming. The virus apparently doesn't live long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could be infected. The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-( I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this. Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member
The thing about the cat walking in the same space is very farfetched. FeLV is more easily transmitted than FIV, but this kind of casual contact won't do it. Many people here will tell you how their FeLV positive and negative cats have hung out together for years with zero transmission. If your vet is willing to do the homework, bring her stuff from this website about transmission and treatment options. The L-lysine is a great start. Feed them food that's as good as you can afford -- high protein, low grain, etc. Wellness isn't the absolute best, but it's not bad and not hideously expensive. Some people here swear by holistic medicine and raw feeding for their cats, and will certainly chime in with more info. Stress them as little as possible. Watch for stuff like anemia, which often turns up in FeLV kitties, and be vigilant about stuff you'd let run its course in other cats, like respiratory things. These cats can live relatively long lives with good care and luck and lots of love. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member Hi, Diane, Thanks for replying to my first post on this group. The kittens are 5 1/2 months old now. I've been trying to find homes for them since they were 8 weeks old, but no luck :-( I had no clue that some of them had FelV until a friend adopted one, and it became extremely sick. It was tested for FelV and soon died. The others are still fine, they had their shots and other than feeling bad for 24 hours, which most kittens do, they recovered and are running all over. My vet is good. She has always answered all my questions, given me plenty of time, and she is also understanding about my ordering vet meds online to save money. In fact she will tell me what to use and what dosages to give. The vet I used before got p.o'ed big time about this! There are only 2 vet clinics in our very small town, and I really like the one I use now. I assume she had to cover her butt by giving me a worst case scenario on FelV. One of the things she told me, that didn't seem right, was that felV could be transmitted in ways other than by sharing food water bowls, grooming or biting My cats often escape their quarters, and my vet indicated that a negative cat might walk where a positive cat had been and pick up the virus. This sounded a bit far fetched to me. What do you think? Is she just covering all bases? I am now giving the kittens L Lysine, which I understand will help boost their immune systems, however they are all still together. I have no place to separate them. I have 15 cats at home (they are rescued inside/outside cats) and I bought a building in town which I use as a shelter. There are 33 cats there, so we're full up! These cats are not in cages, they all have individual rooms, but the rooms are full, without being over crowded. I'm working on finding more space where all FelV cats can be separated. Thanks for writing. Lorrie in WV On 09-19, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: Hi, Lorrie -- Glad you found this group. You'll get lots of great advice here. Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway. Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens! Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies. The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-) I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease. If they aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days. You'll get lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success stories. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New member Hello Everyone, I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time. For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put down to protect my other cats. I've felt horribly guilty ever since, and because of this I quit testing. I
Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue
They are so beautiful! Great job with the TNR and rescue!! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:56 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes works as an extra. I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to start when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor Kitschhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/, petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck. I asked him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's friendly! I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out of my truck. One of the other principals, Minka Kelly,http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1310368/seemed amazed that I had produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle of the night. I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always carried these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties in need at any of the other shooting locations. We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property owner's permission. So Sunday night we went back and obtained permission. Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property named Hot Sauce. We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to be a very lovable kitty. We got permission from the property owner to have him neutered and then return him. We also found that our new kitty (we named her Taylor) had 3 adorable little kittens. One brown tabby and white, one blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white. They are all safe and warm and fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now. I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at http://www.rescuties.net Taylor is combo neg. The kittens are too young to be tested. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Michelle's Patches is an angel
Oh, damn. Gentlest of Bridge journeys to Patches, and hugs to Michelle and everyone who loved Patches. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Michelle's Patches is an angel I'm sorry to let you all know, Michelle's Patches passed away yesterday at the hospital, her body just wasn't physically strong enough to handle anymore treatment ... they are devastated, please say a prayer for them. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Kitten is FeLV+
Hi, Jody -- Sounds like you're doing great already with your others! Brava! Since you're experience in FeLV, you've probably already heard some of the suggestions. You're already doing good food -- can't hurt to supplement with L-lysine, the pure kind from the health food store rather than the human kind from the drugstore which has kitty-hostile additives. And of course, keep stress as minimal as possible. Others will have more suggestions, I know. Oh, and of course you'll probably want to retest in a while, just in case. Best of luck with your new little girl, and the two others. What are all their names? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] New Kitten is FeLV+ Last week, we took in a darling tortie/calico kitten who'd been abandoned at my workplace. At her first vet check today, we got the results that she's FeLV+. We have two other cats that are positive. I would appreciate any tips on how to get this little girl off to the healthiest start possible. We're feeding high protein kitten foods already. Our other cats are doing well at ages 4 and 1 year, but we'd love to learn anything we can to help our newest 'patient' stay healthy and happy. Thanks, Jody ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches
Here are wishes and vibes that Patches rallies once again, and hugs to her and to Michelle. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches Hi again all, Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work, there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and support on the list for many years). Thanks for your prayers for Patches. Kerry M. Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained weight, she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to be improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She has gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed her too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis has been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We are planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs IV fluids. Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would ask. thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Natasha
Here's hoping Natasha bounces back from her URI with no lasting harm done. Welcome and Gesundheit, Natasha! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:51 AM To: Felvtalk; Felvot groups Subject: [Felvtalk] Natasha Hi all we got in a new beautiful white girl named Natasha and she is having a really tough time with a URI.She is fiv/felv+ and a sweet little girl.Please add her to your good thoughts and prayers.Thank you much. Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Good News!
This is great, Sue! Happy hugs to you and Miracle Buzz! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Koren Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:27 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Good News! Some of you may remember my FeLV+ kitty, Buzz, had anemia a couple of months ago. His red blood cell level was down to 8% and the replacement vet gave him two days to live. Because of the advise of people from this list I demanded he be put on Doxycycline, and when my regular vet came back he also put him on prednesone. His blood levels have been steadily rising since then. He finished the Doxy and two weeks ago we started to back off on the Prednesone when his red blood level was at 32%. He was just tested again and his level is at 38%. I feel like he is a miracle kitty! We hear so many of the very sad stories on this list that it feels good to report something happy. Thank you all so much for your help and support. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight
I'm so sorry, Kim. I know it's not a lot of consolation that you had him with you for 6-1/2 years when a healthy cat can live 3 times that long, but it *is* an extraordinary age for a FeLV+ kitty and both of you fought the good fight and loved each other fiercely for all that time. Don't try to second-guess yourself about whether it was the exact time to help him end it -- I think one of the other members of this list would say better a day too early than a second too late. When you are talking to him, as Marylyn has suggested, invite him to visit you. So many people have experienced what they feel is a visit from their departed pets -- maybe you're in bed and it feels like somekitty is walking on the bed, but when you look nobody's there, that kind of thing. And if you ever move, specifically invite Cole to the new place too. And finally, once it stops hurting quite so badly, be open to the idea of finding another kitty, not to take his place but to fill the void. He won't want you to be lonely, and so many times people have said they felt that their departed kitty has led them right to a new one to love. Hugs to you and to Cole in his new home, where he is undoubtedly swapping great mommy stories with our kitties there. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:00 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight It is with great sadness that I have to say that my Cole has lost his fight. The last 2 weeks he has been recieving epogen shots two times a week and we found out today that the shots have not improved his anemia. He in fact got worse and his hemoglobin went down to 9% from 11% 2 weeks ago. He has also lost an addition 1lb in 3 days because he would not eat. It was the hardest thing ever to have to make the call in putting him to sleep or not, but he has been so lethargic and down the last couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good enough shape to even attempt any other treatment at this point. I wish I would have caught this earlier and maybe treatment would have been better. He had been living with Feline Leukemia since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so at least I was blessed with that time with him. Right now the hardest thing is to come home and not have him waiting at the door for me. I am praying that I made the right decision and didnt jump the gun on putting him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I knew that I was prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are having a special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that having Cole for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was my rock and was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to be there for him. Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it helped me make it through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you Cole. Kim ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?
Hi, Adrienne. I'm sorry Emma is ill. There are lots of people on this list who will give you some really good pointers. I don't have any personal experience with chemo for FeLV+ cats; by the time my Patches turned up on my doorstep and was diagnosed, it was really too late to consider chemo. I do know that cats tolerate it much better than humans do. I think one of the questions the others here will ask is, what symptoms was Emma displaying that resulted in the vet visit where the lymphoma was diagnosed -- in other words, was she acting sick, and how has her health been generally since the FeLV diagnosis? And about that -- although the presence of the lymphoma points toward the FeLV diagnosis being accurate, is it 100% certain that she really does have FeLV? False negatives and false positives aren't uncommon with these tests, especially if only the in-office test was given. This doesn't, of course, affect the lymphoma itself, just Emma's general hardiness. Do you feel that she is suffering now? Also, how have you been treating the FeLV? Supplements, diet, etc.? I hope you and Emma still have some good time left together. Hugs. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrienne Statfeld Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy? Hello. My beloved Emma is 5 ½ years old. Two years ago she was diagnosed as being FeLV+. I don't know how this happened. I raised Emma and her sisters from the time they were about two days old. Her sisters are negative, as are my other cats, despite the fact that they have all lived together as indoor only cats, and have groomed each other, and shared bowls, litter boxes, and dishes. Emma tested negative for FeLV as a kitten. She has never been outside except in a carrier. Yesterday, I got the news that Emma has Lymphoma. I've started her on Prednisone, and the doctor is recommending chemotherapy. The doctor estimated an 8 to 10 month survival rate for cats with Lymphoma who go through chemotherapy, but couldn't give me any idea of the prognosis for a cat who has FeLV. Any opinion about chemotherapy for an FeLV+ cat with Lymphoma? I'm heartbroken and I don't want to do anything to prolong my beautiful girl's suffering. Thank you. Adrienne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone
Laura, I am so sorry for both your losses. Hugs to you and gentle Bridge journey to Duncan and your other kitty -- what was his/her name? Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Mostello Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week. I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Patches update
Here's vibes that Patches rallies through this. She has so much going on, poor baby. Hugs to her and to Michelle. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Patches update Please pray for Patches again. Her PCV went down from 20 to 18, and she's not eating much on her own anymore. Her liver values were normal, though. She did get some chemo yesterday. I am not sure why she is getting worse. They think the cancer is in remission. Maybe it is the anemia. Maybe her pancreatitis is acting up. I am not sure. Prayers helped before, though thanks, Michelle _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures continued
Caroline, Bless you for caring so much about this little problem child! While I hate to hope that an animal was abused, I do hope that his problems, whatever they turn out to be, ARE finite and treatable. You know, if these folks are really old, maybe they just aren't up on current thinking on kitty behavior. My housemate's mother got a cat and couldn't really accept that this particular cat's personality was not to be a cuddler, and she steadfastly tried to *train* the cat to be a cuddler and then resented it when she wasn't. She wasn't cruel to her or anything, but I think Kitty was much happier later when living with my housemate, who respected her right to express affection on her own terms. Maybe these adoptive folks just couldn't cope with this boy's little quirks and tried to punish him as if he were a whispers dog or something. I guess I'm glad, at least, that they realized they were in over their heads and relinquished him rather than some other alternatives. If it turns out that he's not irreversibly sick, I'm sure you'll be able to resocialize him (possibly with a little pharmaceutical help); maybe when he's calmed down and his poor toes don't hurt so much, he'll rediscover playing. I hope so. (We socialized a near-feral who'd been on her own in her early months, and we didn't know how we'd ever teach her the concept of play -- but she learned, and is probably the most playful of the bunch.) Best of luck to you and the little guy! Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittensbeFeLV+??
Jennifer, I know how bad you must be feeling now, and I know what it's like to not have enough money to go around, and I know what it's like to make a bad judgment call. Obviously you should have made it a priority to have *somebody* fixed since unfixed cats living together WILL do what comes naturally. Preferably both of them should have been fixed, but I know Ash's FeLV status is a factor. I join in the plea to have Isobel aborted if at all possible. Even if by some miracle the kittens were born healthy, there are so, so many heartbreakingly unwanted kittens in the world already. And the thing is, if they're born, sick or well they're your responsibility. If you can't personally keep them, you will be faced with the same agonizing decision as you are now, except that they will be warm little creatures you can hold in your hand and it will be much, much worse. Sorry you're going through this. Hugs to you and Isobel and Ash. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittensbeFeLV+?? Exactly, well put. Whenever someone asks me for help with a cat or kitten saying otherwise they'll have to take them to a AS/AC, I tell them that if they care about the cat at all they should take it to the vet to be put down themselves rather than subject them to such a fearful, cold endpeople so often prefer to spare themselves pain at the expense of the animal. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the life they lead before they are killed is rough. They are surrounded by awful noises, cold bars..and may or may not have a gentle death at the hands of people who cannot afford to love them. On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Heather wrote: Even with negative kittens, unless you find a strictly no kill shelter and keep them yourself until they are 8 weeks, they'd probably be put to sleep anyway without even being tested...and even a no-kill shelter will euthanize the positives. I know it sounds sad to terminate but unless you will keep them yourself...the one thing sadder than the idea of termination is if you go to your local AS/AC agency and see all of the sweet, friendly, beautiful Mom full litters of kittens who are being put to sleep--positive or negative. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know the groups in Southern New Jersey (although I lived there many years ago) - but some group will gladly help you with testing and s/n. Yes, the kittens would most likely be euthanized at a shelter, if FELV +.Good chance they'd be euthanized even if negative. BTW, some vets will spay a pregnant cat, depending on how far along, some won't. Let us know what the test results are! Best of luck, Gloria On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote: and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash. Isobel is showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as pointy nipples). She's going this Thursday to get tested for FeLV. My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is she won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+ because their father is FeLV+? Also, if Isobel is pregnant and she is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too? I feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet. If she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in the house, which I understand. If I take them to a shelter and they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away? I don't want that to happen. I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want more kittens?? When I take her to the vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy. Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice. ~ loving mama to ~ Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000) Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007) Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz might be sick
Sally, here's hoping the vet finds nothing major. I know you'll be going crazy until you find out. Hugs to you all. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Koren Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sally Davis Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz might be sick Thanks, Sally, Buzz seems to be breathing fast, but I am not sure how he usually breaths. Like you said, panic mode. My husband is taking him at 10:40 am today because I am working. I want to be there so badly! Sue Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = HI Sue I am sorry Buzz is not well. I am not sure what to tell you to ask the vet. There are so many things I should have asked, but i was clueless. Sometimes I think I tortured Junior needlessly because I was in panic mode. Be calm and listen his life depends on you. You can check his gums to see if they are pale. Anemia is common. As my vet told me b4 Junior was dx with Felv, hemabartenella can be caused by just one flea. It is treatable. How is his breathing? I will keep you and Buzz in my prayers. Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such death sentence diseases as FeLV and FIV. It's so important to find one who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its various issues. There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out there, and often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you can give them, so don't be discouraged. If this vet persists in her he must be suffering viewpoint it might be good to shop around. Good luck with your ferals. In case you haven't come across it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource. Some of the members can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of the web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and other aspects of feral caretaking. Many of them are working with little or no money themselves. The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great down-to-earth advice. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon Harden Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanx Tonya, I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my home. This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions. Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was suffering and would only get worse. It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again. The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to do it. Again Thanx so much for your support. Sharon --- On Fri, 7/25/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Be sure to really check around. My sister is in North Carolina and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and neuter. Good luck. t Sharon Harde ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic
I'm so sorry, Sue. I know cats have come back from bouts of anemia but you do have to weigh the options. Hope he feels better in the meantime with the shot. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Koren Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:38 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 30. She gave him a steriod shot. She says we could choose to give him a transfusion but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive. He also has a bad heart murmer. Right now I am just trying to by time to look into optiions. I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of painful procedures just to buy a month or two. They just don't understand why you are doing it to them. Why can't cats take iron pills like anemic humans do? So many questions... Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(
Oh, damn. Condolences to all of you, and a gentle journey to Hennessey. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:17 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :( I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey
Vibes coming. Hennessey is in good hands but there's only so much even good hands can do. Hope he pulls through. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:53 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Hi all we are in need of your good thoughts and prayers again.Sweet big orange boy Hennessey may be in liver failure.Dr. Jen is doing all she can for him. Thank you all. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies
Sharyl -- Best wishes to you and to all these babies. Whatever future they have is already brighter with you taking such good care of them. About Daisy, I guess I would say that if in the future she looks like she's actively sick, bring her in and, if you can't afford to keep her, do the kind thing so she's not out there suffering. I'm not of that disposition either but no matter what, they shouldn't suffer. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies I have been feeding a dumpster colony of kitties for several months with the goal of doing TNR (trap/neuter/release) for those that I can not rescue. Of the 3 kittens I rescued 2, Sissy and Rocket, were FeLV+. They are about 9 months old now and are doing well. Both have test positive twice. Their sister, Daisy, had a litter before I was able to TNR her. The kittens were approx. 4 weeks old when I got them. I took them because 1 had both eyes stuck shut and 1 had 1 eye stuck shut. The next day I was finally able to trap Daisy using a kitten as bait in the carrier. Daisy has since been spayed and released. The babies have received one worm treatment, got terramycin salve in their eyes for a week, and have lysine added to their food. It appears that Mattie will be blind. She is the biggest of the 4 and very feisty. I had her tested and the vet said she was very, very, very FeLV+. No idea what 3 verys mean. CJ may have some limited vision in her bad eye. Bright Eyes and Houdini (escaped from the dog crate twice now) seem healthy. I am adding L-Lysine and Mega C Plus to their food. I am looking for advice on what else I can do to help them throw off this virus. They will each be tested when I have them spayed. Sissy and Rocket were several months old when I rescued them. Didn't know if starting treatments earlier would improve the odds that they could beat this. Any advise on how to proceed with now 5 1/2 wk old kittens would be appreciated. By the way Stormie, same colony but different Mom from Sissy, Rocket and Daisy, tested negative. I did not have Daisy tested. I knew I could not afford to keep her if she was positive and simply do not have the disposition to have a cat PTS simply because she is positive. At least she will not have any more litters. There is one more sister, Mae, that I have been trying to trap for TNR. Sharyl Sissy, Rocket and the babies This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey (was RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :(
Kathryn, I am so sorry about Smokey. I know how much you wanted him to make it. Don't reproach yourself too much (I know you have to a little, 20-20 hindsight is what we humans do best) for causing him pain trying to take care of the mouth sores. You were doing what you could to be a good mom, and we often have to do things they don't like for their own good. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Smokey. I know he knows how much you loved him, and maybe he will guide you to another kitty who needs you. Brava for wanting to find one who's been passed by, I always worry about the older ones who aren't kitten-cute anymore. Hugs. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of information and support. Sincerely, Kathryn This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
Tonya -- re the cosequin, we've been giving it to our senior guy Luc for several months now -- we get the capsules and sprinkle it into his wet food. He goes for the juicy part first so we try to get the cosequin powder mostly into the juice. He sucks it right up. ;-) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value? Just very low for a CRF kitty with a Crea of 2.6. You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's web site. www.felineCRF.org SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration. Weekly fluids probably don't help much on that score. Usually kitties are no longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment plan. All of Bob's other values look good. The best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies --- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM Hey Belinda, This has been lost in cyberspace several times. I'm hoping it comes through with the new server. Bob's numbers: creatnine 2.5 bun 16 phosphorus 4.5 potassium 4.1 HCT 37.9 Other numbers that were noted as high were: urea nitrogen 40 cholesterol 269 amylase 1440 we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week. and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc 2.5 mg daily plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so small on the capsules and i can't find the box. i have a hard time getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much regularity.) how does all of this sound to you. I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about that? tonya Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN, Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the important ones that tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from your vet, they can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work results, you paid for them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can tell you what my vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has his blood pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for getting high blood pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness if not caught and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone blind been put on amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight. The retinas detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high can vary for each individual cat but you really don't want the blood pressure higher than 170 or 180 at the vets. Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having the episode that I took him in for right away, thankfully his retinas never detached but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching and he kind of looked spacey and fell over. Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get fluids? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended
RE: Smokey update
Any responsible vet will treat an FeLV+ kitty. One of the first things to know about this virus is that it isn't nearly as casually contagious as was first thought, though it is more readily transmittable than the other bugaboo, FIV. Unless the cat is in a position to bite other cats, or is sharing food and water with them, which is not likely in an emergency-vet situation, it's not readily transmittable. And as some on this list will attest, from letting their + kitties mingle with their negatives, even the food and drink isn't necessarily a problem. My Patches escaped his temporary confinement -- he was a 3 a.m. rescue, we lured him into our back hall, fed him, left him there blocked from the rest of the house by a 7-foot screen door, and went back to sleep...at 6 a.m. woke up to find him in our FRONT porch room 50 feet from where we'd left him, having a conversation with one of our other cats! He'd had 3 hours to get over or under that door, wander the length of the house and interact with all the cats, and partake of their grazing crunchies and water. He died 6 weeks later, but none of the others have shown a single symptom. If he had lived, we would have had the others vaccinated as an extra precaution, and let him hang out with them. As it was, we had to keep him in a room by himself while he was sick, and he really wanted to join us all, he was such a sociable little guy. That was really hard. At least we were able to give him some comfort -- when he came, he had such huge, severe mats of fur on his sides that they looked like wings. They must have hurt him horribly, he wouldn't let you touch him past his shoulders. He came to us over a 4th of July long weekend so it was a few days before we could get him to the vet, and we were able to get some of the matting off him by me distracting him and my housemate snipping at the mats practically one strand of fur at a time. (A few months later, cleaning behind some furniture in the porch room, we found another piece of wing that he must have rubbed off himself on the furniture.) He was also filthy, and we would pet him with damp cloths wherever he'd let us, and he cleaned up into a lovely Turkish Van. Thankfully, our vets, who don't usually do extensive grooming like this, took pity and were able to clean him up and deflea him during his exam. After that he loved being petted all over. We would gladly have kneecapped whoever left him out on his own to get into this condition, even if he had been FeLV negative! We had already socialized a near-feral cat, and it had taken months. This guy was immediately friendly and had obviously been someone's pet. Oops, I digressed a little there! But the point is that no knowledgeable vet would refuse to treat a cat on the basis of its FeLV status. It's so good that your regular vet is being so supportive. It can be really disheartening to have to look for a new vet on top of everything else. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey update Hi Everyone, I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out, he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy! The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so sweet. Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a while. I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this little cat. Thank you for listening, Kathryn -Original Message- From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 7:33 am Subject: Re: Welcome, Kathryn I didn't get your original email Kathryn. Welcome to ghe group. Is your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he? tonya Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've come to a great place for information and support. Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you that diet and stress control are paramount. If you can give your new guy
RE: Prayers needed AGAIN
I hope Melina is hanging in there this morning and is feeling better. Big vibes to her. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:56 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Prayers needed AGAIN Please can we get ALL the prayers and good thoughts for beautiful sweet Melina.Dr.Jen took her home with her to try and get her feeling better.She thinks that she may becoming septic.So she has started her on Doxy and Prednisone and will do a work up on her tomorrow.Please pray for this baby girl that won my heart the moment I saw her.I know in the long run the aweful felv will win. :( But maybe she can win just this one more time. THank you all so much Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Add to CLS - Muffin - (non FELV)
I'm so sorry, Kelley. Gentle Bridge vibes to Muffin. What is her (his?) story? I always think it's good to tell their stories when they pass. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:01 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Add to CLS - Muffin - (non FELV) Could you please add my Muffin to the CLS? Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08
Heather, I'm so sorry for all your losses, and Jann's and Kate's. I'm sure all these sweet babies are at the Bridge bragging up all the VERY special people who cared so much about them. I don't know of anybody on this list who hasn't at some point beaten themselves up about what they shoulda coulda done, but sometimes things just are what they are and you do what you can. Sometimes it turns out that it wasn't enough, because nothing short of divine intervention WOULD have been enough, but you know you made a world of difference to somekitty just by giving them a warm, loving place to be at the end. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Wienker Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08 With much sadness, I wanted to share with everyone that Hobbs' sister, Sissy, has now joined him. The loss of her dear brother affected Sissy very much, which was to be expected as they were quite bonded, and she began to take a similar road as Hobbs did in his final days. Their people-Mom Jann had wanted to avoid Sissy suffering as she felt Hobbs did, and had planned for her to cross this morning, though unfortunately they had a very bad night, and stayed the night in the garage together, where Sissy had actually been spending a lot of time lately. I apologize that I haven't been active since the outpouring of support from you all regarding the loss of Hobbs, unfortunately the following week we lost another FELV+ rescue, Shennanigans (whom a friend in another city had given a home to for these last 3 months), and also a dear Torti rescue named Freckles who we found living in a woman's yard, very ill and with an old very uncomfortable injury. She was such a sweet, beautiful kitty and her spirit really touched us all very much, a rescue was assisting with her medical care but force feeding with her injury was very stressful for Freckles, and her caregiver, and given the severity of her illness (which prevented her from being a candidate for surgery for her long-healed injury, unless she made a remarkable recovery), they felt it was best to release her from her pain. I found out after the fact and have struggled with it ever since as I feel I didn't do enough for her, soon enough, and wonder if things could have been different. Shennanigans was a beautiful little charcoal grey long haired kitty whom we found outside at my vets, likely dumped around Febuary. She appeared to be only 4 - 5 months old, though we aren't really sure. The woman who she went to live with said her vet thought she might be older than we initially thought, she wasn't spayed when we found her and I still think she was a pretty young kitty. Her initial FELV test was a weak+. I really should have posted about Shennanigans here but was fairly numb with all of the loss.I was not the direct caregiver, but the rescuer, for these kitties so can only imagine what my friends have been going through as they loved them all dearly. Even if it was only for 3 months, I know Shennanigans spent those last 3 months sleeping in a bed with someone, though she was afraid of the other cats. What Jann did for Hobbs and Sissy, giving two little FELV+ kittens a home which is so hard to find, I will be eternally grateful for.I hate the pain it's caused her, yet she is such a giving soul and does nothing but thank me for entrusting her with their care and for the precious time she had with them over this last year. While I am always full of doubts as to how I handle things, I am so confident in the wonderful, loving happy lives they had with Jann, no matter how short. I just hate how painful the end has been. She still has their Mother, a double+ kitty I found at my new job with an eye ear injury, she has outlived all of her kittens--I found them all last April under a trailer behind my new office. I had moved accross campus after almost 20 years in the same building, and kept looking for a sign from God as to whether I should make the move...when I found Mom her babies, and their testing status, I knew had anyone else found them they'd most likely have immediately been put down, and that they were the sign I was looking for. We also have a new Leuk+ rescue, this poor kitty had scabies so bad his eyes were crusted shut (and still are quite infected), a friend made a heroic rescue standing on a truck and plucking this kitty out of a tree, and it hit hard when we found out he was leuk+. We are still looking for a home for him, and he is still boarding at the vets being treated (3 weeks now), but we are glad we've had the chance to give him the chance he deserves to feel good love and care. Well I am sorry as this must be a very sad update...but I know you all will keep Sissy, Hobbs, Shennangans, and Jann Kate the loving humans they've left behind, in your close thoughts and prayers.
RE: Little Man Please add to CLS :(
I'm so sorry Little Man didn't make it, Sherry. Hugs to Dr. Jen and all of you. Little Man has gone through orientation by now and is telling all his new friends about his wonderful old friends. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:16 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Little Man Please add to CLS :( Poor Dr. Jen had to let our Little Man go at 5 am this morning.She wrote us all the legacy of his story.He was an awesome boy.It was a very nice legacy. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Kissinger and Zin Please add to the CLS :( :(
Kissinger and Zin will surely find lots of old friends at the Bridge. :-( Condolences to Zin's hoomin and all at Sids. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:39 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Kissinger and Zin Please add to the CLS :( :( I found out tonight sweet beautiful Zin lost his battle.He was adopted by one of the volunteers and she told me tonight he left us.He was a flame point beautiful boy. Also we lost sweet Kissinger he had such a gentle way about him. This has been a sad week for us at Sids. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry, Sherry and all. Gentle Bridge vibes to Sebastian. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 7:54 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :( I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies. Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss that great boy. Sherry This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Hobbs, May 4, 2008
Heather, I am so very sorry to hear of Hobbs' passing. Blessings to you and Jann for caring so deeply for him, and thank you for sharing his story. Hugs to you all and skritches to Sissy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Wienker Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hobbs, May 4, 2008 I am very sad to let everyone know that Hobbs passed away Sunday afternoon at 12:48 p.m. His caregiver, Jann, woke up Saturday and dashed around to replenish suppliesbut when she got home he was clearly declining. She felt he was suffering and made the decision on Sunday to cease force feedings as he was obviously in pain. She did keep his mouth moist and tried to keep him warm, mostly just allowing him to do whatever he wanted or could. She took a sleeping bag in her spare room slept with him Saturday night, and spent Sunday morning in her yard with him in the sun, petting and consoling him. We had been trying to find a vet to come to her home, but he ended up passing on his own...which we are grateful for, though she fears she allowed him to suffer. I think had we not tried the treatments of this last week, we would be wondering if he might have had more time. Please add Hobbs to the Candle Light Service, and keep Jann and his sister Sissy in your prayers, they were two little peas in a pod, as Jann would say. Hobbs was a year old. I am very thankful to Jann for giving Hobbs Sissy the chance to live the life of love that all kitties deserve, regardless of what is in their blood. We found them when, after 20 years in the same building on a busy university campus, I moved to a new office on the other side of campus. I was very nervous about this decision and kept telling everyone I wished that I'd get a sign from God. Upon moving, I had 2 injured feral cats colonies in the first two weeks, and also was approached by a new coworker regarding an injured cat, who was Hobbs' and Sissy's Mom. She had an eye ear injury and my heart immediately told me I had to help her; we did not know she was a nursing Mom. I had been told she was declawed, and that they'd caught her 6 months prior along with a kitten of hers (negative), she also was not injured then. Why she was put back out unspayed, I will never know unless it was because they thought she might have more kittens. When I trapped her, she was not declawed but was positive for FELV, FIV, and a nursing Mom. I really feel that Mama, Sissy, Hobbs, Mickey Sebastian were that sign from God I'd sought, as they would either still be out there reproducing and likely ill, or would have been put down due to testing positive for Leukemia had someone else trapped them. I set out to find/trap the kittens and found out that 2 ladies had already found 2 of them, I had to give them the news of the Mom' testing status. Both of their kittens were weak double+, but did clear the FIV. Initially Sissy and Hobbs were only FIV+, but they retested positive for Leukemia a month later, confirmed by retesting twice. I was so upset by all that this Mom kitty had been through, and knowing that much of it--including this litter of kittens with leukemia, could have been prevented had she been spayed...there was no way I could not give them their chance. However, being in a small condo with 10 cats, I didn't even have room for another negative cat. It is Hobbs' caretaker, Jann, who gave Hobbs and Sissy the chance for life and love that they deserved, and I know they could not have had a more loving home. I am very grateful for Jann, and know she is hurting badly right now. I want to thank everyone for their kindness, support, advice and prayers. Hobbs was a very special boy, when I first took them to Jann's as kittens she said she felt an instant connection, she has always told me this. His illness and loss has been very hard for her and she has been very appreciative of the support. Thank you all for giving these special kitties love for the time that they have here, it means everything in the world for them. In Loving Memory of Hobbs, Heather This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Hobbs, May 4, 2008
Laurie, condolences to your friends as well. What a hard weekend this has been. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hobbs, May 4, 2008 I am so sorry. Three friends also lost cats this weekend... 2 Saturday night and one early this morning. Prayers for all those kitty angels and their grieving caretakers/guardians. L - Original Message - From: Heather Wienker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Hobbs, May 4, 2008 I am very sad to let everyone know that Hobbs passed away Sunday afternoon at 12:48 p.m. His caregiver, Jann, woke up Saturday and dashed around to replenish suppliesbut when she got home he was clearly declining. She felt he was suffering and made the decision on Sunday to cease force feedings as he was obviously in pain. She did keep his mouth moist and tried to keep him warm, mostly just allowing him to do whatever he wanted or could. She took a sleeping bag in her spare room slept with him Saturday night, and spent Sunday morning in her yard with him in the sun, petting and consoling him. We had been trying to find a vet to come to her home, but he ended up passing on his own...which we are grateful for, though she fears she allowed him to suffer. I think had we not tried the treatments of this last week, we would be wondering if he might have had more time. Please add Hobbs to the Candle Light Service, and keep Jann and his sister Sissy in your prayers, they were two little peas in a pod, as Jann would say. Hobbs was a year old. I am very thankful to Jann for giving Hobbs Sissy the chance to live the life of love that all kitties deserve, regardless of what is in their blood. We found them when, after 20 years in the same building on a busy university campus, I moved to a new office on the other side of campus. I was very nervous about this decision and kept telling everyone I wished that I'd get a sign from God. Upon moving, I had 2 injured feral cats colonies in the first two weeks, and also was approached by a new coworker regarding an injured cat, who was Hobbs' and Sissy's Mom. She had an eye ear injury and my heart immediately told me I had to help her; we did not know she was a nursing Mom. I had been told she was declawed, and that they'd caught her 6 months prior along with a kitten of hers (negative), she also was not injured then. Why she was put back out unspayed, I will never know unless it was because they thought she might have more kittens. When I trapped her, she was not declawed but was positive for FELV, FIV, and a nursing Mom. I really feel that Mama, Sissy, Hobbs, Mickey Sebastian were that sign from God I'd sought, as they would either still be out there reproducing and likely ill, or would have been put down due to testing positive for Leukemia had someone else trapped them. I set out to find/trap the kittens and found out that 2 ladies had already found 2 of them, I had to give them the news of the Mom' testing status. Both of their kittens were weak double+, but did clear the FIV. Initially Sissy and Hobbs were only FIV+, but they retested positive for Leukemia a month later, confirmed by retesting twice. I was so upset by all that this Mom kitty had been through, and knowing that much of it--including this litter of kittens with leukemia, could have been prevented had she been spayed...there was no way I could not give them their chance. However, being in a small condo with 10 cats, I didn't even have room for another negative cat. It is Hobbs' caretaker, Jann, who gave Hobbs and Sissy the chance for life and love that they deserved, and I know they could not have had a more loving home. I am very grateful for Jann, and know she is hurting badly right now. I want to thank everyone for their kindness, support, advice and prayers. Hobbs was a very special boy, when I first took them to Jann's as kittens she said she felt an instant connection, she has always told me this. His illness and loss has been very hard for her and she has been very appreciative of the support. Thank you all for giving these special kitties love for the time that they have here, it means everything in the world for them. In Loving Memory of Hobbs, Heather This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we
RE: Update on Hobbs
Here are big hang in there vibes to Hobbs and his human, and some hugs and skritches thrown in too! I know we're all rooting for him. Thanks for the update, Heather. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Wienker Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Update on Hobbs Hi Everyone- Hobbs' caregiver, Jann, also preferred him to be at home and did have them show her how to do meds and feels ok doing it and has already startedthe feedings are kind of tough, and he's on many meds (Densyl, Baytril, Amox., Argenine, Cartinine, Cypro. appetite stimulant, and I think one other thing).The current latest worries are that she says his eyes are dilated and glassy, we called the vet and she said to bring him in. She also says that he seems weaker in terms of stopping after just a few steps...and he does cry when she picks him up. When they initially did the BW, it was partially to check for Hemobartonella or anemia, but he didn't have either of those, though I do need to get a copy of the blood work. The vet simply indicated it's his liver and he appears to have an infection. When I asked about the Baytril and Amoxicillin, she said it was in case there is an infection in the liver and also part of their liver cocktail, if I understood correctly. I have a friend who has some Imulan coming in, she's using it on an FIV+ of hers (and says it has helped him greatly, but is not a quick-fix kind of thing)Hobbs' has so much already going in him, I'm wondering if it's smarter to consider this if he improves strengthens. My vet is not familiar with Imulan and I'm not yet sure if she'll administer it. Jann says Hobbs is so braveof course seeing him struggling is breaking her heart. I really appreciate all of your thoughts, prayers and advice. Any input is welcome!!! Heather This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Hobbs, more info--Liver
If the bilirubin is high, could this be fatty liver disease (hepatic lipidosis)? I've been through this with my Luc and it is very reversible with proper treatment. The treatment is simple -- feed, feed, feed, and quick, quick, quick! The problem is that the cat may not feel like eating, in which case force-feeding or tube-feeding is the way to go. With Luc, force-feeding was so stressful that we elected to have an esophageal tube inserted through his neck. We thinned out and blended some A/D from the vet and syringed it through a little funnel into the tube. Within a week, he started to feel better and lapped it up on his own, and turned right around. We had to wait a while to have the tube removed -- the rough edges of the hole needed to heal over before they could be stitched shut. We too had the test to the tune of several hundred dollars, and then Luc didn't react well to the anesthetic and they kept him overnight for several more hundred, so I feel your pain on having to consider money. The tube insertion itself was only a couple hundred dollars (although the vet may have taken pity on us after the original $1200 we'd spent on tests and the overnight stay). Thankfully, my mother had left a small amount of money and I know she would have been happy to know it went to save my heart-kitty's life. I hope things turn out okay for Hobbs! Hugs to him and his hoomins. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Wienker Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hobbs, more info--Liver Hi everyone, I thank you all so much for your caring insightful replies! It appears the problem is Hobbs' liver, his bilirubin is very high. They are suggesting a regimen of meds including Denocil, baytril, amox., Cartinine Arginine, and fluids. BW suggested an infection which may be the reason for the antibiotics. They also suggested doing X-ray/ultrasound/fine needle aspirate cytology for the liver. I asked if we can start the meds and see how he responds. If anyone has comments on this it is appreciated. My rescue vet bills were $1,100 last week and I hate considering money, but the vet did say we could proceed that way...I also thought sedating for the aspirate might not be good if he's so weak? What we are trying to figure out now is if it's best to hospitalize him for 3 days for fluids as suggested, or, for my friend to take him home where she can watch over him more during the night (my vet's does not have staff there overnight). She can't do fluids so would have to bring him back each day for fluids if so. I think that would be stressful, but it might be best for him to be at homeespecially if he took a turn for the worse, I don't think she'd like his last moments to be in the hospital if possible. I am always boarding cats so they can get proper care but in this case am not sure which is best, kind of a toss up. Karen, if you have suggestions now that we know that the liver seems to be the issue, it's appreciated or I can give you a call. A good rescue friend suggested SamE, but I think the Denocil is like an RX version that might have some further benefits if I'm understanding correctly. Thank you allI haven't been active in the group but always scan the messages and pray for all of our kitties. Blessings to you all--and especially to your furry ones, Heather This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Today is test day
Best of luck to you and Buzz today. Hugs and good vibes to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Koren Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:25 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: Today is test day Hello everybody, Today after work I will take Buzz to have his first re-test since he was diagnosed positive for FeLV. I am trying not to hope too much, but there is a bottle of champagne in the fridge if he turns out negative. Tuna for Buzz - I don't think he likes champagne. Meanwhile he has been released from his room and is socializing with the other cats. I did some of the things the people in this group recommended and that probably helped. All went well until a couple of days ago when some electricians came to our house. He really freaked! He hid for 8 hours after they were gone. His fear probably had something to do with the abuse he received as a kitten. Anyway, if anyone would care to say a prayer for my little kitty it sure would be appreciated. Sue This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: test
Me too, Tonya, both at home and at work. When I saw the one at home, I thought maybe it was because my inbox was nearly full -- but at work I usually have a maximum of 100 items. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test i got a notice saying i was bounced off the list. i rejoined, or whatever.I don't know what would cause my account to bounce. t Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Fw: Please add Inky to CLS
Kerry, this is very late, but please accept my deepest condolences on Inky's passing. What a great long time you had together! Diane R. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't see this posted at the group so I thought I would re-send it. I guess there has been a problem with the sight. Hope this was ok. Thanks, Kerry --- On Thu, 4/17/08, Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please add Inky to CLS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 17, 2008, 6:51 PM Hi everyone, I think some of you might remember helping me with Inky back when Bandy was ill. Although Inky wasn't felv+, I would like him added to friends at the CLS. He was Buster and Lil Rascal's uncle. He was 21 yrs 8 months and 4 days. He fought a tough battle with CRF, IBD, and hyper-t for the past 2 1/2 yrs. He went on his own terms and in his own time..He did some really unusual things the last 10 days prior to his death. Just re-visiting some of his favorite places in the house and such..He was one exceptional kitty, and I miss him so much..The place isn't the same without him as most of you know how that is. Anyway, he passed on April 13, Sunday. Thanks so much for all your help in the past and if I can ever help with anything I would be glad to do so..I hope to get back on here real soon. Kerry, Angel's Bandy, Inky, Buster, Lil Rascal, Snoopy, Striper, Albert and Alberta Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i6 2sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i6 2sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: I really need some advice
If you would rather keep this baby than adopt her out, I say go ahead and have Velvet vaccinated (unless s/he is sickly) and let Binxy out of that bathroom. The only thing might be to introduce them gradually, like with Binxy in a cage for a few days, to see if they're going to be aggressive. Of course, that's actually prudent for any new arrivals. I have only had one cat with FeLV, and only for a very short time, but his first night in our house he got out of the back hall where we were isolating him and intermingled with the other cats in our household, and they are all fine after almost 2 years since their exposure to him. He hadn't bit anybody, and I don't know if he shared food/water/litterbox with them, but very obviously he didn't transmit anything by just interacting with them. I'm glad you found this list. It's a wonderful resource. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I really need some advice I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV. I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her--not spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people want kittens. She is really cute. Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer. I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as difficult. Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats at risk. If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue group and tested before they even came through my door. Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public. If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit-Metro in Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey, I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her along. I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me. I really appreciate it. Buttons -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any
RE: I really need some advice
I forgot to mention, even though your vet may have administered the in-house test correctly, that test sometimes shows false positives (and negatives). You should have Binxy retested using the Western Blot, which is more accurate. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I really need some advice I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV. I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her--not spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people want kittens. She is really cute. Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer. I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as difficult. Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats at risk. If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue group and tested before they even came through my door. Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public. If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit-Metro in Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey, I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her along. I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me. I really appreciate it. Buttons -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: I really need some advice
Oops, sorry, was replying re FIV on another list, have Western Blot on brain. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: I really need some advice Western Blot is for FIV, IFA is for FeLV. If the snap test is positive for FeLV and the exposure was recent, it can take 8 to 12 weeks before it will show in the IFA test. It could also have been a false positive and there is the possibility that if it was a true positive and the exposure was recent the cat may be able to mount an immune response and eliminate the virus. That would usually happen with 12 weeks after exposure. If vaccinating other cats that may become exposed keep in mind that to obtain the full immunity the vaccine provides requires a series of 2 shots 3 to 4 weeks apart so, the vaccine is not fully effective for about 4 weeks. Gary - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: RE: I really need some advice I forgot to mention, even though your vet may have administered the in-house test correctly, that test sometimes shows false positives (and negatives). You should have Binxy retested using the Western Blot, which is more accurate. Diane R. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: A few more facts
Caroline -- Of course you are making the right decision for both you and Binxy. While money shouldn't have to be an object in pet care, it ALWAYS is, and between the high-quality food, the supplements and the vet visits, Binxy's care could eventually get costly, even if she's healthy now. My housemate and I both make reasonable lower-middle-class livings. When our Patches found us and tested positive, we couldn't abandon him, but in the long run would have had a hard time paying for his care, especially with 4 other cats needing vaccinations and their own care. (As it turned out, we didn't have a long run with him, just under two months.) And of course there's the emotional toll, which everybody here can relate to. Likewise, nobody can fault or second-guess you on your avoidance of vaccines. There's some scary literature out there on that issue, and my housemate and I have tried to avoid vaccinating our completely, forever indoor cats, or at least vaccinating as often as the law would like. As you say, closed system. Here are big vibes that you find a great forever home for this sweet baby. (If the Iowa contacts don't pan out, you might check out places like Best Friends -- other listmembers have had dealings with them and other sanctuaries and can fill you in on them.) Please let us know what develops! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: A few more facts When I wrote in yesterday, I was more in panic mode and not necessarily thinking too clearly. I appreciate the advice from all of those who responded and felt I should fill in the picture a little more. I have also followed up on all of the Iowa contacts and hope something can develop there. I was also contacted by a gentleman from the list here, Gary, and if we can get the transportation coordinated, that looks to be the best yet. God bless those of you who have dedicated your life to helping these Felv kitties. I've realized more than ever why it is pretty unrealistic of me to keep her. The house in which I currently live is not mine---it is a shared housing situation while I wait for my name to come up on one of the lists for subsidized Senior housing to which I have applied. The rest of the house would appreciate their bathroom back, which my landlord has informed me about. Caring indefinitely for a cat (or possibly two) with a major disease such as this is totally unrealistic for a low-income Senior living on SS only. Reading about the numerous tests, supplements, treatments, etc. it is obvious how quickly things can add up. Realistically, it's just not manageable for me at all. For those of you in different circumstances, I think it's wonderful that you have chosen to use the resources you have to make a difference for these kitties. My cat has not been vaccinated for this and even if she were, the vaccine is generally 90% effective. Even tho Velvet is currently healthy, that may not necessarily be the case and could change rapidly at any time. She is a very Senior cat at 17 yrs. old and has outlasted her two other sisters even with a heart murmur. However, I could not live with myself if she were in the unlucky 10% and ended up with this disease due to my decision to expose her to it. I guess I could be faulted by some for her not being vaccinated, but that's just a result of my risk-benefits ratio evaluation of vaccinations for adult cats in general (kittens with undeveloped immune systems is a totally different scenario) With the accumulating evidence for the various cancers stemming from yearly vaccinations, I just felt that it was better for MY cats to by-pass being vaccinated for something they would not encounter. Other people do differently for their cats as is their right. For all the time I have had various cats over the years, they have always been totally indoor-only cats. It has always been a closed system The only way for them to be exposed to something is if I introduce it. And as unbelievable as it may sound, no cat of mine has gotten out of my door unawares even tho one was a dedicated escape artist who felt she just HAD to go thru every open door, even a closet door. :) Velvet has zero interest (I guess her time as a stray prior to the SPCA was enough of a trauma so the streets hold no allure.) The best and most realistic thing that I can do for Binxy is to make a reasonable attempt to find someone who can care for her and if that fails then be sure that she is euthanized peacefully via injection rather than that horrendous vaccuum chamber or gas which can cause such needless suffering. For me to do otherwise would be just plain foolish---I can't spend money I don't have to save one cat while there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of other healthy cats within an hours drive being
RE: Zeus Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry, Sherry. He sounds like a feisty little guy. Hugs to all and gentle Bridge vibes to Zeus. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:24 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Zeus Please add to the CLS :( Well this was a bit of a shock for us. Zeus has been battling a URI and we have had to keep his nose clean all the time.He was one big boy with quite the cattitude.He would stalk me when I handed out individual feedings at Sids.He loved baby food!! I used to argue with him but then recently began a little bit of a friendship with him.He has been so sweet the last couple of weeks.He has been there longer than I have been volunteering,he will be missed by us all.I guess the infection moved into his brain.Bye sweet Zeus Sherry Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i6 2sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: please add Slinky to the CLS
What a shame. Gentle Bridge journey to Slinky and hugs to Laura. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: please add Slinky to the CLS Hi Slinky adopted my sister a year and a half ago. He was cautious to be her cat as he was probably dumped off. He finally befriended her and her canine lab mixes who loved chasing cats. Slinky was fearless andhe invited his self into her home. With his laid back attitude the dogs did not give chase. The day Junior passed I called Laura to cry on her shoulder. She informed me Slinky was sleeping a lot and somewhat lethargic. He was also off his food. I told her get him to a vet ASAP, which she did. She found out that he was FELV positive. He had a fever. The vet gave fliuds and sent abx home with her. Laura was scared . She decided to give it a chance as this cat chose her. Well folks it was not meant to be the cat went off. She found him hiding under her porch and she could see in his eyes he was ready to go. So she took him to another vet who checked everything out and she decided to set him free. She feels as I do that Junior was letting us know that Slinky was not well. So please add Slinky to the CLS for Laura. Hopefully Slinky will send her someone to love soon. Thanks Sally Still very much missing my Junior. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed 3 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!
Tator, if this works I will join you in choking down a cheesecake (I never *got* it -- why would you want CHEESE in a CAKE?? Cakes are for chocolate and yummy cloyingly sweet icing!) If this works, so much future heartache will be averted. I suppose it's too much to hope that it will come in time for most of the kitties on this list, but here's hoping anyway! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?! Thank you for sending this! http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fa8/01 Yes, I will eat a whole Cheesecake if this does happen as promised! Remember I can't stand the stuffLOL This is totally awesome news to read about. I'm excited I have requested to be on their mailing list as well. In a message dated 3/18/2008 7:35:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just received this from www.10thlife.org http://www.10thlife.org/ newsletter, dare we hope??? Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere. Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV. The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy). No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no known side effects. For the last two weeks I've been looking for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together. We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats. We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved. In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com http://www.bemikitties.com/ HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com http://www.hostdesign4u.com/ ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com http://www.foryoubyus.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/
RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!
Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend one way or the other. And if this small a sample means it can get under way quickly, I think it's worth a shot. The results might nudge interest in a larger study at the very least. LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat owners in the rest of the company. That's OK, Florida is really good at black-market stuff. ;-) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?! I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size... On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just received this from www.10thlife.org http://www.10thlife.org/ newsletter, dare we hope??? Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere. Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV. The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy). No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no known side effects. For the last two weeks I've been looking for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together. We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats. We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved. In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com http://www.bemikitties.com/ HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com http://www.hostdesign4u.com/ ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com http://www.foryoubyus.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the
RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!
ROFL!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?! here, snakey snakey snakey On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend one way or the other. And if this small a sample means it can get under way quickly, I think it's worth a shot. The results might nudge interest in a larger study at the very least. LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat owners in the rest of the company. That's OK, Florida is really good at black-market stuff. ;-) Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?! I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size... On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just received this from www.10thlife.org http://www.10thlife.org/ newsletter, dare we hope??? Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere. Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV. The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy). No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe and there are no known side effects. For the last two weeks I've been looking for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together. We will need to raise money for the pilot study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and (2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats. We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives will be saved. In the meantime, please continue to support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com http://www.bemikitties.com/ HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com http://www.hostdesign4u.com
RE: Marley Please add to the CLS :(
Gosh, Sherry, I'm so sorry. Marley sounds like a very special little guy indeed. As always, hugs to you all. I know Marley is telling everybody at the Bridge the same kind of wonderful things about you guys, including the slow dancing. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:52 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Marley Please add to the CLS :( This is one of the biggest heartbreaks that I have had to deal with since I started volunteering at Sids.Marley was the most beautiful,handsome,sweet loving black cat that I have ever met.I know that MANY MANY volunteers are crying today for the loss of our Marley.Every cat that comes into our care leaves us with a piece of our hearts,well Marley took ALOT more than that!! He has touched all of us in so many ways.I will miss our slow dancing while he stared soulfully into my eyes.Yes we slow danced. :) I swear he totally listened and understood what I said to him.Monday night was the last time I had the chance to tell him how much I loved him and how special he is to me.He actually meowed at me,he didnt do that much.the aweful disease spread ti his brain and Jen had to let him go yesterday.she sent out a very sweet e-mail to all of us,title Goodbye to our Amazing Marley.He was truly an amazing boy.The place will NEVER be the same.But it will still be full of love. Thank you all so much, Sherry Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsear ch/category.php?category=shopping This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Mr. Kennedy Please add to the CLS :(
I'm sorry he didn't make it, Sherry. I'm sure he's at the Bridge bragging you all up. Hugs. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:53 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Mr. Kennedy Please add to the CLS :( I am saddened to say that we lost sweet Mr. Kennedy yesterday.Dr. Jen said she got him purring for her and held him close as he fell asleep.I will miss his sweet half black half white face.He was an older boy of 8 years old and lived many years in another sanctuary that did not look after his needs as they should have.But at least we got to love him for a too little of a time.Thanks for you prayers. Sherry Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit
Sorry, Barb. Sweet Bridge vibes to Bandit, and hugs to you and Smoky. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+ kitty Ninja went to the Bridge. Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday March 5th, with his Momma and brother sitting with him. He was only 9.5 yrs old... but he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and Bart will get together and scheme to find someone to send to me. Belinda, Bandit was FeLV- Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Autumn's Eye
She sounds like a funny little girl -- I mean as in amusing rather than peculiar, but probably both apply. ;-) I'm glad she's doing better. Here's vibes that her eye clears up okay. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Ang Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Autumn's Eye Thanks to everyone for the info. Autumn is doing better today. You can tell that her right eye isn't quite right - it seems more glassy than the other. The steroids make her think she's invincible and she hates her eye drops. Yesterday after her last dose she ran back over and swatted the bottle out of my hand. Today she ran from me and tried to get away - which I take as a good sign. She's usually pretty patient with medicines. I've been watching her closely and I have my fingers crossed that she just somehow gave herself a black eye.We'll just have to keep watching it through the weekend. On a funny note, I decided to skip brushing her teeth to keep from possibly further irritating her eye. She saw me with my tooth brush in my mouth and indignantly screamed at me. 'How dare I skip her!' I ended up having to give hers a cursory scrubbing (she loves the malt toothpaste.) Bossy little squirt. ~Susan A. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: BooBoo left us
Lynne, I am so sorry you lost BooBoo. My heart truly goes out to you and Bob. Most of us on this list are all too familiar with the frustration and desperation you've felt these past weeks, when you try everything, hope for anything, and end up losing them anyway. My experience with Patches was less than 2 months, over a year ago, but I still sometimes mourn the time we didn't have together. You guys need have no regrets (except for that part) -- you did every single thing you possibly could. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to your brave boy. I do believe that they come and visit us. Sometimes late at night you'll feel somebody jump up on the bed -- and the other cat(s) are clearly not in the room. Somebody (probably on this list) suggests asking your departed pet to come and visit, and even, if you move, to renew the invitation at the new place. You will be happy again, when you've had a little time and a chance to de-stress. There may even be another kitty in the future that you feel BooBoo has sent to you. These feelings that they're telling you something aren't stupid. There is so much out there that science has no explanation for. Hugs to you and Bob. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: BooBoo left us We lost our precious baby tonight. He developed difficulty breathing and we rushed him to the emergency clinic. He was dehydrated and had just had his lungs aspirated Friday. The vet recently experienced the same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes think they make stuff up to identify with your pain. I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he slipped away almost immediately. I don't think I've cried this much in my life, Bob too. At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy again. Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time to go and he thanked us. He was so very weak he could hardly walk but he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in. We know this was best for him but the worst for us. Thank you all for being so very supportive. Lynne This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: OT - Cat enclosures
OMG!! Cats, schmats, *I* want to live there! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:30 PM To: felvtalk Subject: OT - Cat enclosures Boy, am I jealous of these people! One day I hope we can have a setup like this one! http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures-2.htm -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: more questions and thankyou
Obviously, Dorothy, treat your cats the way you're comfortable with, but as someone else has stated, the Cornell info *is* outdated. If FeLV were as hugely contagious as stated, I would now have 4 cats dead of it, since our Patches escaped our quarantine the first night he was with us, and interacted freely with whichever of our cats cared to acknowledge his presence for at least 3 hours, and may have had some of their food and drink as well. Everybody is as robust as ever. Patches was already in the lymph-node-involvement stage, and only lasted 7 weeks with us after that. But if he hadn't been sick pretty much the entire time he was with us, we would probably have had the others vaccinated and let him mingle with them. He so wanted to be out with us, and instead he had to stay in a room alone most of the day. :-( Don't be affronted about your info being called wrong. It's easy to do, it seems like there's more wrong info out there than right. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dorothy Noble Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: more questions and thankyou You are welcome to describe my information as inaccurate; I wrote: Apparently the virus CAN live for a while. I have read in several places that you need to clean any area with a bleach/water cleaner if a + cat has been where a negative one will be staying. It is said that you should wait 30 days after your + cat is gone before you should introduce a new negative cat into the household. I would think that the Cornell University (as well as all of the others documented below) hold a certain amount of credibility - more so than any layman just posting their opinions here. Whatever you believe, I would ALWAYS err on the side of caution and keep all of the litterboxes, bowls, etc separate. Without knowing it, I put my negative cats at risk; they had all been vaccinated for FeLV but it isn't 100% effective. Due to the extreme contagiousness, one of my vaccinated cats now is FeLV positive. Please note the yellow highlighted part below - by following this strictly, my other negative cat remained negative. Suit yourself, but I prefer to be proactive with my cats. What can I do now to protect my cats?? The only method for protecting your cats is to remove any FELV-positive cat from other cats completely. You should also follow strict quarantine procedures including separate utensils, housing, litter pans for the FELV positive cat, and thoroughly washing your hands, clothing and shoes after handling and caring for the FELV positive cat. Do not breed an FELV positive queen!! If you lose a cat to FELV, it is recommended that you wait 30 days before bringing in a new cat, and then only after the area has been thoroughly scrubbed and disinfected with a solution containing 4 ounces of household bleach per gallon of water, rugs vacuumed completely, and all litter pans, food dishes, bedding, etc. have been replaced. - * FeLV is considerably unstable and will not survive outside an infected cat for an extended length of time. It is recommended to wait at least 30 days before a new cat is brought into the household/facility in which a FeLV-positive cat once lived * Cleaning: Thoroughly disinfect or replace the food dishes, litter pans, and bedding that were used by the infected cat. Tile or hard surfaced floors should be cleaned and disinfected with a diluted bleach solution (approx. 4 oz. household bleach to 1 gal. water). Thoroughly vacuum rugs to eliminate the virus from carpeting. * These plus the thirty-day quarantine, should be sufficient to eliminate the virus within the household. -- Keep a FeLV-infected cat indoors and away from other cats. If the cat dies from FeLV, the Cornell Feline Health Center recommends a waiting period of at least 30 days before getting another cat. The house and cat supplies should be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected before bringing a new cat home. An FeLV-positive cat that is not sick is probably still shedding the virus. FeLV-positive cats should not be housed with other cats. Deciding what to do with an FeLV-positive cat in a multicat household can be very difficult. There are several options, including: * Euthanasia * Finding a home for the FeLV-positive cat where it will be the sole cat * Isolating the FeLV-positive cat within the home, by keeping it in a separate room and providing a separate litter tray and feeding bowl Because FeLV can be spread through litter trays, water and food bowls, and bedding, these should be disinfected with a solution containing 4 ounces of household bleach per 1 gallon of water, or they should be replaced after isolating the FeLV-positive cat. Floors
RE: FIV
I believe everything you've said is correct. The kind of intermingling of bodily fluids that comes only with deep bite wounds (or intercourse) is the way FIV is transmitted. In this way FIV is similar to HIV, but its manifestations and treatment are not. It's basically the good-food and watchfulness regimen, and many positive cats remain asymptomatic throughout their generally normal lifespan. I haven't owned an FIV+ cat but had some contact with a couple back when I volunteered at the local Katrina shelter, and they were both big, sweet, healthy guys. One of them got to go back home -- they located his owner who unhesitatingly took him back even knowing the diagnosis. We all bawled for joy all over him the day he shipped out. He must have thought we were all nuts, slobbering on him like that. The other guy was, I believe, adopted by someone as their only cat. At the Katrina shelter we had to take precautions, but in the normal course of things, having learned what I have about FIV (mostly in the course of learning about FeLV), I wouldn't hesitate to intermingle a non-aggressive positive cat with others. Of course, placement with other positive cats would be extra-ideal from a safety standpoint. Good luck with this little guy. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FIV Does anyone have any direct experience with FIV that they can pass on to me? I know the gist of course, since I foster cats and have met and lost the battle to- both Felv and FIP in the past year (ugh). I have heard that cats with FIV can be fairly successful- live heathly lives barely affected by the disease (is this true?), and it really is a lot like human HIV? I have also heard this is the one retroviruses that is transmitted by deep bite wounds and NOT casual contact? I am going to help a man who has taken in a alley cat that hung around his house for about 3 years that tested positive of FIV. He was clearly neutered by alley cat advocates b/c he has a tipped ear. He says it's a wonderful, approx. 5 yo tuxie. He has him in the bedroom for now (his only room with a door in his house) because his own cat is an extremely aggressive, neutered male and after 3 years of the tuxie hanging around outside, and being in the house for a while now- they can't sort out their differences and they will fight. He wishes he could keep the cat but with his cat- being such an aggressive fighter, and the tuxie being a fighter when need be (alley cat mentality)-- he just doesn't see it as possible due to transmission to his cat. The cat did get outside and got in a fight recently- ended up with an abcess on his ear- being treated by a vet, stint put in and he has a f-u next week- but it was at that appointment that the vet found the FIV and said segregate!- as they always do. I am going to work to get the cat into our adoption program as a special needs cat in the hopes that someone w/o other cats, with a non-aggressive cat, with a docile female, with other FIV cats, etc., would be willing to take him on. In the meantime, this man has agreed to continue to foster him in his home while I work to help him out with the situation. In the meantime, I want to build up my knowledge so that I have talking points for potential adoptive parents and I can educate if someone w/o prior FIV experience is willing to take him. The man seems to understand that he could have a cat on his hands with something a lot worse (like Felv or FIP), so he's definitely not an overreactor and he seems well-educated. Any info that anyone has will be great! Especially PERSONAL EXPERIENCE and/or accurate and trustworthy websites I can read and pass on to others! thanks, Caroline Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: more bad news
Lynne, I know how sad and disheartened you are, but please be aware, as Kelley says, that all FIP tests are not created equal. Most of the tests only show the *presence* of the coronavirus, which actually is present in huge numbers of cats without ever turning into FIP. It has to mutate to become FIP and make them ill, and it usually only happens in cats that are genetically predisposed for this mutation. I'm not saying that BooBoo doesn't have FIP, just that unless the specific test Kelley mentions is performed, the diagnosis can be inaccurate. The general wisdom is that FIP can only really be accurately diagnosed by necropsy. That being said, I'm so sorry you're going through this. Hugs to both of you and BooBoo. You're doing a great job. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: more bad news I don't know Kelly. He sent it off to a lab and specifically tested for it along with culturing the fluid. I have to assume if he tested positive and all the symptoms he has are those of an infected animal that he has it. Don't I wish there could have been an error but I'm at the point where I have to accept where this is going. I just want to keep him unstressed and comfortable. Unless there is some miracle drug that can repair all his blood vessels I'm screwed. Lynne - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: more bad news Wait, wait. What test did the vet use to test for FIP? There *is* an FIP test which is fairly accurate, but most vets don't even know about it. It is called Rivalta's test: This is a test with which few veterinarians are familiar but it can be very helpful in the diagnosis of FIP. A test tube is filled with distilled water and one drop of 98% acetic acid is added. To this mixture one drop of effusion is added. If the drop dissipates, the test is negative. If the drop retains its shape, the test is positive. A negative Rivalta's test is 97% accurate in ruling out FIP. A positive test is 86% accurate in ruling in FIP. Source: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html If you are talking about a titer test - almost all cats will test positive for coronavirus titers. On 2/27/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does. BooBoo's cytology came back today and he has FIP as well as feline leukemia. There was no bacteria in it. There is nothing left for us to do for him. There was no bacteria in the culture, just protein and fibres, because his blood vessels are leaky. The vet says all we can do is make him comfortable and at this point it is all about quality of life. He will continue to drain his lungs every week to 10 days and keep him on this antibiotic until it is finished and only Lasix once a day, which I guess does nothing for this lung fluid. If he becomes worse, ie he has to have the fluid drained more frequently then we will have to do the obvious. We will put on a good face for our dear boy and do everything we can to keep him with us as long as we can but it isn't looking too good at the moment. The vet said they had another cat in this week that tested positive for FIP but not leukemia. He said BooBoo has been hit with a double blow and unfortunately the end is near. I don't know if the Factor stuff will make it here before Boo dies but I'm trying to be realistic here now and face the inevitable. My husband and I are horribly sad about this but I'm getting angry now at these criminals who owned him and lied to me about his being healthy and vaccinated. We have several top notch lawyers in our practice who like me a lot and would do me a favor if I asked. I'm seriously considering consulting with one of them when this tragedy is over. Lynne -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with
RE: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, sorry about feisty little Finlay. I know you guys made his little life with you a great one. Gentle Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you all. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:14 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Finlay Please add to the CLS :( THis is a heartbreaker,I fell for this fluffy black boy the second I saw him.He had a bit of a cattitude towards other cats but he loved people.He even swatted me a few times.But all it took was a look at that sweet fuzzy face to forgve him.I understood that he had a short hard life.But plenty of love for the last few months.Thanks for your good wishes and keep the others im your prayers. Sherry Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsear ch/category.php?category=shopping This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Melina
That's good news, Sherry. Big vibes for a long, happy life for Melina. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:05 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Melina I just wanted to report to you all about beautiful little Melina.s you know she just lost her brother Mysterio.Well last night I was at Sids and that precious baby is doing just great!! I watched her playing with a ball and just welled up with tears.That baby won my heart the second that I laid eyes on her.Thank you all for the good thoughts on her. Sherry Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: for Lynne - good stories
Lynne, I don't think you're alone in reacting the way you did at your mom's death. I'm sorry that she, and you, had to go through 5 years of that kind of hell. My mother died a few years ago, after 3 years in a nursing home, and at the end was so far from what she had been a few years before that we were probably both relieved. When the first cat I owned by myself, Saavik, died, I was sad but also a little relieved, since I had been worried, as she aged, about losing her and then it happened (acute renal failure, so not a lot of warning) and I cried, a lot (and still do sometimes when I think of her), but that part of it was over and I'd lived through it. My other cat was quite a bit younger, so I knew that barring calamity I wouldn't have to worry about THAT for a while again, and it was a relief. Now HE's getting up there, and there have been others in between, and it turns out you do get past the sadness. The same wonderful woman that Jane mentions, Nina, also brought me to this list with my stray Patches, and had a lot of wise words for me all through our ordeal together, which was actually only a matter of weeks. The circumstances of Patches' entering the lives of me and my housemate Gail were so odd that I do tend to believe Nina when she told me he'd been sent to us. It was 3 a.m. on the Sunday before July 4, which was on a Tuesday that year. I just happened to be awake at that outlandish hour, and noticed one of my cats howling at something outside. I went to the enclosed porch to investigate, and there was this big disheveled boy demanding attention! So we brought him in, and got him cleaned up and de-matted -- he had mats so huge they were like big angel wings, and must have been hurting him terribly. I think now that he came to us because we would clean him up, make him comfortable and love him for the little time it turned out he had. I don't think we'd have been great FeLV mommies in the long run -- with the supplements and the vet visits and the top-of-line food, and we had 4 other cats we'd have had to have vaccinated regularly and our resources are okay but not endless -- but he didn't need us in the long run. We beat ourselves up considerably that we weren't able to save him by the sheer force of our will, but possibly that was Patches' lesson to us, that you can't, always. ;-) Diane From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: for Lynne - good stories This may be very true Jane. On the other hand it has crossed my mind that I personally am being taught some kind of lesson about the need to be sad. My mom passed away last year after a horrible 5 years of Alzheimer's. The final two years she was in a nursing home and the deterioration over that period of time was dramatic, to the point that one day when I went to visit her I walked right past her because she looked nothing like my mom. The night she died, my sister, brother and I stayed until her last breath. My siblings broke down crying but not me. I believe I made a sigh of relief and I have never shed a tear over her passing. I think it's because I had to be responsible for her care and I know I did all I could. The other two did little for her. I hope that when BooBoo's time comes I can let go as easily as I did with my mom but I doubt it. With these little guys we have to make the decisions about when they go. I won't let him suffer but it will be hard. We held our big Chuckie when he had to be euthanized, drove him home in the middle of the night and buried him in the pouring rain. That was 20 years ago and I still choke up when I think of him. Lynne - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: for Lynne - good stories Great Lynne ...that would be wonderful. You've found a good vet! Not too long ago, when I was as 'shell shocked' as you are now, a woman (Nina) who was on this list told me that it is her belief that these Felv kitties are often 'sent' to us to teach us how to let go of our fear of loss, and how to live as they do, in the moment. I've found it to be so true. I hope with some time, you'll feel that way about BooBoo. It will get better. 0It sounds as though you and your husband are going to give him every thing you can to fight this battle. He's so lucky to have found you. Jane On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Lynne wrote: Jane, I think that's a wonderful idea. I was telling our vet about the good stories tonight and he was very interested. We've determined this is a really terrific guy we've found. He's attempting to adopt out a just diagnosed FelV cat because as he confided to us
RE: CLS
I know. I once knew a 25-year-old cat and thought that was really something. If this one was really 30 *and* positive all that time this guy should be calling Ripley. As it is, my dearly beloved (negative, but with thyroid problems) Luc is 16 now and I am hoping for 25 Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS Hmm, 30 years old. I'm not so sure even the healthiest of cats on the planet can accomplish that feat Diane, but hey, anything's possible I suppose. Lynne - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: RE: CLS Someone on another cat list I'm on just lost a cat he says was FeLV+ and it was THIRTY years old! Now, I'm not too sure how well-versed he is on FeLV, and I'm thinking maybe he's mistaken in that. What he said was that the cat was infected with FeLV when a kitten and had to have both eyes removed. So I don't know if it was something else entirely that he THINKS is FeLV or maybe the kitten later threw the virus, or what. I'd LIKE to believe he's accurate, as I'm sure we all would! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS Lynne - the vet (NOT my regular one) who I took Mandy to when I first got her to have her tested told me that leukemia positive cats live only about 6 months after diagnosis. Well, Mandy is 6+ years old and who knows how long she has had the virus. I've had her for more than six months myself--and she is thriving. When I saw my regular vet, he said the other vet was nuts. - Original Message - From: Lynne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: CLS I am taking all this advice to heart. Thank you Marilyn. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CLS I'll let others address your specific questions but I'll put my two cents worth in. Look at homeopathic/alternative/complemtary vets, especially if conventional vets are not meeting your needs. Enjoy the time you have together. If you spend it thinking about the possible future you will miss the wonderful present...and the future may or may not be as you imagine it. We all start dying the minute we are born. We fear death but our friends do not. They live in the minute and that is what you need to do too. I had a perfectly wonderful and apparently very healthy cat leave this world with cancer. My little FeLV + girl has been with me 3 wonderful years and is apparently perfectly healthy. We never know what will take us from this world or when. Please spend wonderful time with BooBoo.time enjoying him and listening to him. Tell him of your fears if that will help you verbalize them and deal with them. Good luck and all the blessings of all the universes to you and Boo. Don't waste the present. On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Lynne wrote: I'm sorry for not being knowledgeable of this, but what is CLS and the bridge you folks refer to? I've been busy trying to find some ray of hope for my BooBoo. I showed his blood work to the doc next door at work, who is a dog lover, not a cat but he interpreted it as being pretty bad. He said he has no platelets. He then got on the phone to a Vet friend who takes care of his dogs and gave him a brief history of Boo and his blood work. The vet said there was nothing I could do about the situation and that most cats after being diagnosed lived for 2 years at a max. I don't even know when BooBoo contracted the disease so who knows how long he has. This vet though kept saying, it doesn't mean he's going to die, whatever the H that means. I also have a pharmacist friend who is meeting with a vet friend of his in Detroit tomorrow and he too is running Boo's history by him to see if there is anything at all to help him. Apparently Immuno Regulin is not available here
RE: Mysterio Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. I'm glad the man found him and Melina in time to give Mysterio a few weeks of love and care. Give Melina a hug for me, and give yourself and Dr. Jen one as well. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:48 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: Mysterio Please add to the CLS :( I am sad to say that we lost sweet little Mysterio.He and his sister melina came into us about 3 weeks ago.The man that rescued him found him on his front porch almost dead.Then he brought him and Melina into Dr. Jen and she helped him through and he became the most beautiful fluffy black baby boy.We were working real hard getting them to trust us and he was just finally starting to purr when we held him.I will have to give his beautiful sister extra loving now that her brother is gone.Thank you all so much for being here for me. Sherry Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsear ch/category.php?category=shopping This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
