Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2009-03-06 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
When my mom was in her seventies she got scammed by some guy selling
securities -- he told her she wouldn't lose money, and she ended up
losing like $5,000.  She felt so foolish on top of losing the money,
which on a fixed income was not going to replenish itself, and of course
I felt bad that she felt bad, and so very angry at this young snake oil
salesman who preyed on her and others her age.  That made me
hypersensitive to the plight of older people, how easy it can be to take
advantage of them and how at a loss some of them are in a world where
technology and change can overwhelm even those of us who can keep
somewhere near the cutting edge.  Arlene and others like her are in my
thoughts daily.

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:41 AM
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thanks for posting this, sue, because the issue of folks unable to take
care
of their critters right now, elderly or not, is becoming huge.

folks, check with your local shelters to see if any of them run a
pet-food
bank--a lot actually do. there are ani-meals programs in a number of
places,
that deliver food for animals to homes where the humans can't afford to
get
the food, or can't get to the store to pick it up. in some places, there
are
programs that are funded by the United Way--they just don't get much
publicity.

social-service agencies SHOULD know about clients who have companion
animals
in need, and SHOULD be working with animal-welfare groups to help, but
it
doesn't happen when case loads aren't overwhelming the system, so i'm
sure
it's not now.

sometimes all it takes is stopping long enough to look around: if you
have
an elderly or disabled neighbor that you know has critters, or is
feeding
ferals, ask them what kind of food they use because you're into coupons,
and
you'll keep an eye out (that's not charity, you see)--etc etc etc.

MC

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Sue  Frank Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 I belong to a cat forum on-line.  One of the members who is a well
 respected TNR person posted this the other day and I have not been
able to
 stop thinking of this poor lady:

 There is a town south of tucson. Very poor and colorful characters
live
 there. Its a dumping ground for people who abandon their companion
cats and
 dogs. There is a woman who has worked with us to S/N the abandoned
cats in
 her yard. She is devoted to these cats and feeds them and watches out
for
 them.
 Last year her husband developed pancreatic cancer and died. We found
out
 yesterday she is going to loose her house and has been using her food
stamps
 to buy cat food for her companion indoor cats. her beloved dog is
having
 serious health problems and she doesnt have money to take him to a
vet.
 These animals have helped her get thru her hard times.
 Our group has been supplying her with food for the ferals but didnt
know
 she didnt have money for her indoor animals. We are going to try to
raise
 money to help her dog go to the vet and help her with food for her
indoor
 cats.

 When I PM'd her asking how to help this poor woman this was her
response:

 I work with Paws Patrol of Green Valley. We have a website with pay
pal if
 that would be convenient to donate there.
 http://greenvalleypawspatrol.org/ Be sure and mention it is for
Arlene.
 It made me sad all day thinking how awful it must be to face those
things
 alone in your elderly years. I'm sure none of us picture our lives
happening
 like that. Plus a lot of the older female generation are not
self-sufficient
 women like we are today. I know my mom is always wanting a man to do
chores
 and figure things out for her. (she is 84) when her daughters are
perfectly
 capable of doing alot of the stuff!
 Its just plain wrong when the elderly fall on hard times like this
with no
 recourse. Medical bills bankrupt so many families. Please keep this
woman in
 your prayers and thoughts. We are going to have to try to move her
colony of
 cats because once she is gone they dont have a prayer to be looked
after in
 this community. Her name is Arlene.

 I am posting Arlenes story here with permission from the woman who
posted
 it in our cat forum.
 Thanks,
 Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS

2009-03-05 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Awww.  Sweetest of Bridge vibes to Flanagan, and hugs to y'all at Sids.

Diane R. 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:46 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS

Well we sadly lost another one of our Sids kids.Flanagan was quite the
spunky boy.He was an orange tiger that LOVED to wash windows! He has had
his ups and downs in the passed six months.And just recently got a bunch
of his feisty silliness back,even just this Monday he helped me do the
special feedings and kept me company.He passed away during the night
last night and I feel for the volunteers that went in and found him this
morning.I would have been devastated.We knew his time was getting
shorter but he just made a major comeback.Maybe he was just giving us a
last glimpse of the Flanny we have ALL came to love.We love you baby
boy.
Sherry


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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hello- new to the list

2009-03-04 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Wow, Laurie, I had never heard of that So I'm guessing that dry food
should be kept, say, in its bag with the top rolled so there's no extra
air?  Wacky!

Diane R. 

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Coco lost weight, couldn't jump up, her tongue would come out of her
mouth
and her legs weren't working right. Not FeLV+but she was diagnosed with
myonecrosis. A change in food (from dry to canned) reversed her issues.
The
vets tested for all the usual causes and she was negative so they
assumed
nutritional. I would dump all the dry (Wellness) into a tupperware
container. Vets said that exposed the food to too much air which
depleted
the food of vitamin D and Selenium and caused muscle death. For what
it's
worth
Laurie

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:17 PM
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I appreciate everyones concern  thoughts.  Looking back at what I've
written so far, I can see that I haven't been very clear about what
was/is
going on with Grrr.  I've been a little emotional these last few days!
I
took him in monday morning because he had been having a very difficult
time
doing normal cat stuff- jumping, running, etc- saturday night  sunday,
and
it was getting progressively worse as hours passed.  I had consulted
with my
vet on Sunday about possibly taking him to emergency, but because he was
not
displaying any very dramatic symptoms of stroke, seizure, obvious
distress
or pain, we decided to save him the trip and bring him in first thing
Monday
morning.  He had been losing weight, and it seemed likely that his
weakness
was a symptom of whatever was causing the weight loss- hence the blood
tests
that led to the leukemia diagnosis.  The vet believes it likely that the
weakness  instability are a result of a spinal tumor caused by
lymphosarcoma, and I believe that yesterday's dramatic neurological
symptoms
were simply a progression from what had been going on all weekend,
exacerbated by the stressful hospitalization  long car rides- he
doesn't
travel well either.  Grrr doesn't do anything easily except look
handsome 
growl.  The cortisol shot was administered as an effort at pain
management,
to see if it helped him get around easier.  Just got him home and he's
looking OK- a bit better than yesterday, and he sure seems happy to be
home.
We have a very long term relationship with this doctor, and do trust
him-
obviously, mistakes can be made, but I am comfortable with the treatment
Grrr has been given and the plans we have discussed for his future. I
am, as
has been suggested, throwing out the calender- my cat seems happy, if a
bit
awkward physically, and that makes me happy!  Amy
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Re: [Felvtalk] hello- new to the list.

2009-03-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Amy --

I'm sorry your baby isn't doing well, and I'm even sorrier that
diagnosis and treatment need to be ruled by, as you say, your credit
line.  We've all been at this point, I think.  Part of the nastiness of
this disease is that it's expensive all around, from the frequent vet
visits to the food and supplements, to the emotional expense.  Unlike
many of the kitties on this list, my FeLV kitty, Patches, turned up on
our doorstep one night and was gone within two months.  I don't know if
I could have afforded his care in the long run, and it absolutely bites
to have to think in those terms about a little soul in your care.

I have a cat that sounds a lot like Grrr -- thankfully he's been healthy
all his life, except, y'know, for the psychosis. ;-)  Best of luck with
whatever your vet comes up with to treat him.

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy Ackerman
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:09 PM
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 Thanks for the welcome  kind words, Gary  Laurie.   My vet
believes Grrr has lymphosarcoma, but for the time being the diagnostic
tools recommended to locate the suspected spinal tumor are simply out of
reach financially.  Times are lean for everyone, I know; this was a very
difficult day, deciding courses of treatment for this very cool, loved
cat based on our credit lines.  He's having a rough time getting around.
Grrr is also, as you may be able to gather from his name, not a terribly
good patient.  That may be the understatement of the month.  He is
slightly anemic as well, but his... attitude doesn't make him a terribly
good candidate for, say, daily pills, etc.  He's getting a cortisol shot
to see if it improves his mobility/comfort  an injectable, long term
antibiotic (I need to get the drug name) to counter the immune
suppressive effects of the cortisol.  He eats like a horse, so we're
going to try some of the suggested dietary modifications as well.  Any
one with suggestions for minimally invasive treatments (minimally
invasive by this cat's standards is, say, tossing a tasty tidbit gently
from across the room, careful not to let it land too close), please
share as I continue to dredge through the archives.  My other two are
keenly looking around for Grrr tonight- should be a fun car ride home
tomorrow with all three, plus the mastiff going along to get her rabies
vax.  I'll check back in tomorrow- good night, all, and thanks again for
the support! 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

2009-03-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry, Heather.  It sounds like you are doing the exact right
thing for Bashful now.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to her, and hopes for a
passing free from fear and full of the knowledge that she was loved.

Diane R. 

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Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:51 PM
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Cc: Duke, Melanie
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bashful to cross at 2:15 today (EST) Tampa, FL

I haven't posted much lately, sadly have had quite a few rescue losses
in
the last months as well as rescue emergencies which has me so behind
on
all fronts

However, one of our dear, fairly elderly university campus ferals,
Bashful,
will be crossing this afternoon and I wanted to share her story so that
many
thoughts will be with her.

Bashful's caregiver has been taking care of her for at least 10 years,
she
disappeared a couple of weeks ago which was attributed to roofers at the
Library where she has lived for so many years.   When she showed back up
she
was clearly in dire need of help.   Elaine her caregiver called me for
help
trapping, 2 friends and I set out without much success the first two
days--it was heartbreaking, she was half under the drop trap the first
night
but just a bit of food made her choke  cough so horribly, we had tears
in
our eyes just hearing  watching.  Her neck was very, very swollen
impairing
her ability to eat and walk.

We got her 2 nights later, began b/w, examcytology via needle
aspirate
confirmed a high grade, aggressive lymphoma.

We discussed the possibility of chemo but Bashful is very feral and
already
unhappy even being at the vet, it was clear this was not going to be a
way
to give her quality time and that she was already in a very bad state.

One of my good campus friends who came to the call to help drop trap is
leaving now to be with Bashful for her final moments.   Bashful was not
FELV+ (likely was FIV+), but I know many here can sympathize with the
dreadful diagnosis of lymphoma.

We treat feral cats for illnesses as much as we possibly can, I've
actually
got 14 campus feral kitty Bobbye on my porch now for that reason (CRF,
FIV+,
along with Toxoplasmosis  possible eye tumor which has not
progressed--she's done well other than not liking the fluids of
course)but it just didn't seem there were any way we could put
Bashful
through chemo, weekly vet visits, and possibly never feeling good enough
for
the time to have been of quality for her.   She is very stressed at my
vet
and we hope things go as peacefully as possible this afternoon.

Go with love, sweet Bashful, and know how badly we wanted to help
you--you
will not be forgotten.

Heather
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Re: [Felvtalk] add Hambone to the bridge list(not FELV)

2009-02-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sometimes they just plain run out of steam.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to
good old Hambone, and hugs to you.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] add Hambone to the bridge list(not FELV)

Hambone died yesterday.  I've had Hambone as a foster cat since Jan  
2004, when Susan brought me a couple of black FIV+ kitties (not FELV),  
one was Hambone.  He had been in the rescue group for a year or two,  
was originally from the city animal shelter, obviously a stray, very  
friendly. Everybody loved Hambone.

Within the last year he developed high blood pressure, and was on  
medication for that.  He was obviously old, maybe 17-18, though we  
couldn't tell exactly his age.  He had 1 ear that seemed to have  
stuff coming out of it at times, and stopped eating at some point  
recently. He had some red spots above his eye, and the eye started to  
squint and shut.  Recently he'd started walking around and sticking  
his head in corners.  He got stuck behind the hot water heater, and it  
was very hard to get him out.  There was something going on in his  
head, and the vet wasn't sure what, but it seemed to be causing him  
pain and disorientation, and it was getting worse.  We helped our old  
friend to the bridge  yesterday, told him we loved him, and thanked  
him for all his help. He was a great and beloved kitty friend.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Adoption

2009-02-25 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Mike -- 

Can you have your negative cat vaccinated?  Lots of success on this list 
intermingling.  

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Adoption

I have a stray cat that looks completely healthy. After a check up at the 
vet, I found out that she is Felv positive. The trouble is that I have dogs and 
a cat (felv negative) so I keep the stray cat quarantined. She's a great cat, 
very friendly, and I'm looking for a home for her (preferrably one that would 
treat her with acemannan.) I live in Chicago and am looking for someone 
relatively close by. Any possible leads would be appreciated.
 
Mike


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding

2009-02-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oh, I'm so sorry.  She's just so young!

You'll get more good advice here, but quickly, you should get some A/D
from your vet.  It's stinky in a way cats love, and it's a paste.  You
can try syringing it right from the can, or you can water it down and
blend it and squirt it down the throat.  It's richer than regular canned
food.  Or you can go and get some Gerber meat baby food, making sure
there are NO ONIONS in it.  

Good luck with your baby.

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Assisted Feeding

My Macy is only 10 1/2 mos. and I took her to the vet yesterday because
she had become lethargic and wasn't playing. My son is one of the vet
techs so they know us and have been with Macy since we got her at 10 wks
old. She was a feral cat in the neighborhood. We even tried catnip on
her favorite toy, Mr. Lion. After an exam, urinalysis and blood work,
the vet came in and just stood there, too upset to talk. Macy's blood
count is so bad they don't know how she's even walking, although she
still jumps up on furniture but not with much energy. They said she only
has a few days.

I've read about assisted feeding but don't recall anyone saying what
they're feeding the cat. She is still eating a very small amount but if
more is going to help her, we're willing to try anything. I'd appreciate
any advice or suggestions.

Dawn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(

2009-02-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, I'm so sorry that Jazzman and Valentino left you -- gentle
Bridge vibes to them, and hugs to those at Sids who cared about them.
Vibes for Oscar and Flanagan, and also gentle Bridge vibes for the other
kitty you lost.  What a sad few days!

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:39 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Jazzman Please add to the CLS :(

Well we lost our Jazzman today,I knew last night that it would be the
last time I saw him so I told him that I loved him at least 100
times.Just so he heard it at least one last time before he passed.I was
hoping the prayers would have helped.They have helped Oscar so far,he
seems to be feeling much better.Also could you keep our Flanagan in your
prayers too he is not feeling well.It has been a sad couple of weeks in
our rescues.We lost a Crash cat too this week. :( Thanks
Sherry


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Re: [Felvtalk] Trudi (was: PCR test reliability)

2009-02-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I wonder if maybe the Retopix tingles or stings a little or maybe feels 
unexpectedly cool or warm on the skin.  Or maybe since the lesions seem to be 
healing, Trudi is feeling itchy and the medicine makes it worse?  Glad you got 
good news about your other two girls!

Diane R.

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I have some good news: my two little ones, Ginny and Babette, are negatives and 
well. Ginny has been vaccinated two times already (she is two y.o.) and Babette 
is only 6 months and we have to wait after she recover from her operation to 
vaccine her.

My dear Trudi is now taking:
- Baytril for any infection
- Orozyme for stomatitis
- Ribes pet (vitamin E)

My vet also gave me Retopix (Aldemidrol) spot on to control dermatitis, but 
when i put it on Trudi, she starts licking herself and her hair away and to me 
it seems worse. 
I don't understand!

In these days, after taking Baytril, it seemed a bit better. In the places 
where she had lesions now she has crusts. But with this drops she becomes 
obsessed and bite and licks herself.

Do you have any experience of something similar?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

2009-02-11 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I was about to mention this myself, thanks for saving me the time.  I'd
add that hepatic lipidosis in itself does not constitute permanent liver
failure, and can be treated by feeding high-protein, low-fat food, by
force or esophageal tube if necessary if the cat isn't eating enough on
its own.  I've done this with 3 cats and while it's no walk in the park,
they all pulled through it and their enzymes eventually returned to
normal and they could resume a normal diet.  I don't know, either, if
the elevated enzymes can be a function of an infection or not.  I'd say
the best advice until you can get Orlando to a trustworthy vet (my God,
the one you saw sounds like a piece of work!) is to encourage him to eat
all the lean stuff you can get into him.  Good luck!

Diane R.

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

Elevated liver enzymes can mean Hepatic lipidosis (liver failure). If he
is
eating less than normal he can go into liver failure. If it is that, he
is
critical. I would ask her for a copy of the blood work and ask her how
elevated they are and consider getting him to another vet/specialist
(and/or
get the numbers and provide them to the Feline Assisted feeding group).
You
might join the FAF yahoo group. Also, I do not know what elevated white
blood cells mean other than an infection. Maybe liver enzymes elevate
during
infectious process ~ I don't know the answer. Sounds like you might
benefit
from doing some internet research?? 
 
I had elevated liver enzymes and they discovered tumors on my liver. 

Good luck!
L
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the bathroom rug just
over
a week ago.  I figured out who was doing it on Saturday and got him in
to
the vet on Monday.  They tested his urine and blood and the vet called
me
today with the results.  She said his liver enzymes are elevated and his
white cell levels are high.  She is going to put him on an antibiotic
and
re-do the tests in two weeks.  (When I asked the name of the anti-biotic
she
side stepped the question and just said is is a pill wrapped in foil. I
am
currently looking for another vet because there is only one vet in this
practice that I fully trust and it is very hard to get to see him.) 
Anyway, can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated?
The
advise I have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the
advise
from this particular vet in the past, so I would very much appreciate
any
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Re: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

2009-02-11 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
The first thing that leaps to my mind, from experience, is hepatic
lipidosis (fatty liver disease) which generally happens when a cat isn't
eating enough to sustain it, its body tries to use its fat reserve for
nourishment, and the liver gets overloaded with fat.  The causes for the
cat not eating enough could be a lot of things -- something that makes
it painful to eat like stomatitis or pancreatitis, general blahness that
decreases the appetite, etc.  I had two cats sick at once with elevated
liver enzymes, plus neurological involvement, and we think they somehow
ingested some household toxin, although the other four cats did not.  Is
Orlando eating all right?  Once the cause of the not-eating is cleared
up, treatment for the liver is to stimulate the appetite but to feed
high-protein, low-fat food for a while.  Don't know of any other
condition that would account for the uncharacteristic peeing, though,
and your vet made no mention of diabetes?  Hope it's all just due to
infection, though, and good luck consulting another vet, the one you saw
sounds like a piece of work.

Diane R.

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To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Elevated liver enzymes

Orlando, my 10 year old FeLV+ began urinating on the bathroom rug just
over a week ago.  I figured out who was doing it on Saturday and got him
in to the vet on Monday.  They tested his urine and blood and the vet
called me today with the results.  She said his liver enzymes are
elevated and his white cell levels are high.  She is going to put him on
an antibiotic and re-do the tests in two weeks.  (When I asked the name
of the anti-biotic she side stepped the question and just said is is a
pill wrapped in foil. I am currently looking for another vet because
there is only one vet in this practice that I fully trust and it is very
hard to get to see him.) 
Anyway, can anyone tell me what would make his liver enzymes elevated?
The advise I have gotten on this list has proved to be better then the
advise from this particular vet in the past, so I would very much
appreciate any input.

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Re: [Felvtalk] PCR test reliability

2009-02-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Stef --

Sorry you're having all this trouble and worry right now.  

About FIV, you are right and your vet is wrong.  It is VERY hard to transmit 
other than through fighting (deep bites) and sex.  It's much less contagious 
than FeLV, and even FeLV appears to be not as contagious as originally thought. 
 I'm on a feral cat list where there has been some discussion of FeLV, and 
people have said they've seen cat colonies where they know that some cats are 
FeLV+, and if it's as transmissible as we're supposed to believe, the whole 
colonies should have gotten sick and died, and they just haven't.  The trouble 
is that for some reason some vets don't keep up with new research as much as 
they should, and keep giving wrong information, and more importantly, don't 
know the right things to do to keep the cats as healthy as possible or to treat 
them properly when they do get sick.

Your cats are very cute!

Diane R.  

 

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Hi Chris,
thank-you very much for sharing your story. The problem here is that in these 
days I read very much on FeLV and FIV and I agree with you. My cats have always 
been together (except for Trudi, who is a lone wolf), they play, groom each 
other and they eat together even if they have one bowl each :-)
They go out and I live in the country, so there are surely many stray cats and 
many owners who don't bother to test their cats!

What am I supposed to do? I don't want to keep them inside because it's like a 
prison for them.

On friday I will test the last two of them and I strongly hope they're 
negative, so I will continue to vaccine them and hope.

My vet scared me a lot saying that FIV is very transmissible and the virus is 
strong and cats can catch it by grooming each other. Since I knew that it's not 
so, I tried to ask once again to this vet, but she keeps on saying that FIV 
spreads very well. I'm really surprised to hear so...

I so decided to take Trudi to another vet and she immediately recognized 
stomatitis in her mouth (which the first one denied) and nose. She simply gave 
me a gel for her mouth. About the dermatitis: it can be for amoxicillin but we 
don't know. We decided to use, first, something against fleas and then wait and 
see. If the situation does not change, we will try with a local gel.

Has anyone had experience with dermatitis?
For Trudi it's the first time, and that's why I think it was the amoxicillin.

If you want to see picture of my 4 babies, I have a blog. It's written in 
cattish so you cannot understand, but you can see pictures.
It's www.trumiro.com

Hi all!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Juno Please add to the CLS :(

2009-02-09 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, I'm so sorry Juno left you.  Hugs to all who cared about her.

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge

2009-01-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Terrie, my deepest condolences on your mother's passing.  I know how
hard that is.  She sounds like a lovely person, and I'm glad she was
able to get her kitty fix at your place even while living at the
convalescent home.  I'm sure she's happily cuddling all our Bridge
babies now.  Thank you for telling us her story.

Diane R.

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Hello  everyone,
I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel

little better. 
To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior
emails.
Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording.
 
Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails,
phone  
calls, also in person to my mother and myself.
With  great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this
morning. 
As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father.
I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to
feed  
and do litter boxes.
 
She was an  avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and
kittens.
She was a  reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's.
Her breed was  Siamese and Persian cats.
In the last  20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into
her  
home.
They were  given very much needed love and care.
When she  would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home
during the 
last year  she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home.
She would  call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my 
personal kitties.  So she could be around them all and give them plenty
of love. 
She took such  pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly.
Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get
away  
with it.
 
Her services  will be at a later date.
I will let  you all know.
My brother is  putting article in the local newspaper about her within
the 
next day or  two.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd

2009-01-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Emily, congrats to you and Tofu for having found each other, and to
Kelley for babysitting until you did!  Here's vibes that you have a long
and happy life with each other.

FIV is much less problematic than FeLV; often an FIV+ cat can live out
its full lifespan asymptomatically, and since FIV is much harder to
transmit (basically deep puncture wounds and sex) speutering should take
care of the biggest risk factors.  And yes, keeping them healthy is
pretty much the same as with an FeLV+ kitty.


Diane R.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Further update on Tofu cont'd


Sorry, my mom was talking at me and I accidently hit send - anyway,  
I was going to say that from what I've read, it seems like the felv  
may be worse to deal with than the fiv, and that the precautions for  
both are about the same. If anyone knows anything different, please  
share!

Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA.

2009-01-23 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I had not heard about this, Terrie, but I rejoice with you, and mourn
the dogs who couldn't be helped.  Puppy mills are a national disgrace.
I think the tide is turning, though, although too slowly.
Congratulations to the agencies performing the raids and caring for the
poor animals afterward.  

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Puppy Mills in WA.

Hi everyone,  
 
I'm sure by now you have heard of all the different raids of the puppy
mills 
here in Washington.
We are rank 1st in Puppy Mills as I hate to say.
I've been waiting a long time for this to happen.
Finally after years something has been done.
I live about 4 miles from the first raid.
There are 3 different people involved with this. A mother and 2
daughters  
possibly an aunt as well.
Mind you these people live in very nice homes. So they made their money
from 
the puppies/dogs.
The first raid consisted of 155 dogs/puppies of the small breeds, 4
cats, 6  
large dogs, and a few birds.
City of Goldbar.
Second raid consisted of over 100 dogs/puppies.
City of Snohomish.
Third raid had over 400 dogs/puppies, few cats, livestock and horses
that  
were extremely underweight.
City of Mount Vernon.
 
Many of these dogs are being sheltered in the local shelters and foster

homes (Everett/Mount Vernon) and the fairgrounds in Skagit County.
Some have been euthanized there was nothing the Vets could do because
they  
were beyond medical help.
They are all matted and have sores all over their bodies.
Many of them have defects that comes with inner breeding.
Malnourished and underweight.
They had to live in their own waste.
 
I've seen some of these dogs it made me want to puke because of the
smell  
and the sight of them.
It made me so mad that I wanted to kill these breeders for allowing this
to  h
appen to these innocent animals.
 
Mind you this is a family ran business.

 
Sorry, I don't have the direct links right now. If you pull up the news
and  
newspapers for WA. it will show some of what has happened regarding
these 
raids. Not all information will be displayed.

I don't need to read or hear as I know what's been happening but nothing

could be done.
 
Let's hope and pray some good and justice will come out of this for the

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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

2009-01-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sally, truly a bummer about your workplace, I believe the attitude out
there right now is be thankful you have a job -- never mind that you
can't make ends meet on what they pay you.  Hopefully things will get
better in the coming year or so.  I hope we can all at least hang on to
what we've got until the economy starts to bounce back.

About your week without pay, my housemate is given furlough days at
the factory where she works that sound like fun (if you're in the Army!)
but are unpaid, and she can file for unemployment for these days.  It's
like half-pay but it's better than nothing.  Are you able to do this? 

Diane R.

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Thanks Gloria..

The place I work is in a bit of an uproar.. call it the economy

Some of us have been laid off including a good Friend of mine.

We all had our hours cut..I live paycheck to paycheck like many.. so a
12.5%
cut was too much

Now they are telling us we have to take a week w/o pay off, DO WHAT

Plus the board met again yesterday and every time they meet something
else
goes down

I had worried about our sweet girl if somehow we close.. She now has a
permanent home in heaven. I wonder if she picked up on our stress. Maybe
her
recent friendliness was to comfort us. It certainly did. She will me
missed.

Sally
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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

2009-01-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sally -- my housemate took the medical coding class, online, a few years
ago, at which point the bottom apparently dropped out of the medical
coding biz, at least around here.  So she puts stickers on at
In-Sink-Erator. 

Her furlough days are usually only 1 day at a time, and she can still
get unemployment for that 1 day.  Things have changed a lot in the
unemployment area since the last time I was on it, let me tell you!
Maybe it would be good for you to consult state or federal rules on
that... 

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

Hi diane

They are very shrewd where I am employed. They made the furlough short
enough so it does not qualify for unemployment. I do believe things will
pick up again, but I am preparing for another career. I am getting ready
to
take a certificate program in Medical billing and coding. Of course
right
now no one is hiring but when it breaks loose, I hope to change fields.
I am
only 55 :-).

Thanks

Sally
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Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

2009-01-13 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sally, I'm sorry you lost Baby Girl just as she was getting friendly.
I'm glad you were there to help her at the end.  Gentle Bridge vibes to
her and hugs to you, Pat and everyone else who looked after her.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sally Davis
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:56 PM
To: FeLV Talk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl please add CLS

Please add sweet Baby Girl to the CLS if possible she was not positive
but
had 7 good years as a Feral cat next to where I work.

Here is what happened:


Yesterday I noticed the cat at work (a TNR feral) named Baby Girl was
not
feeling good. She has had a URI on and off, but never seemed affected by
her. This time she was not eating and even allowed me to touch her.
Normally
she would have swatted me. We discussed taking her to the ER but we did
not
have a way to catch her or anything to put her in and it was closing.
Today
before I even got to work Pat, who is really Baby Girls momma with the
help
of another girl caught her. She had not eaten any food left for her
yesterday. So Angel first went to a vet that is one street over from us.
They could not see her gave names of other vets. I already decided to
call
my vet who is also close. She could not be seen until 3:30 first . She
was
in distress and I had noticed she was cold to the touch although she was
kept by a heater all day.

I drive her to Junior's vet. Since she is feral I also notified the guy,
Phil who looks after her colony. She is only one of 3 or 4 cats that
hang
out next to us. He said they would probably test her for FELV in fact he
wanted her tested. They vet had a hard time getting blood she was so wek
she
did not fight. Her temp was 94. The vet though she would test positive
but
she was negative for FELV and FIV. She had pnuemonia and was now
coughing
blood and she was shutting down. The vet was sure she was dying
and euthanized her. Of course it was  a heart stick and I decided I did
not
need to watch. It was over before I even was out of the room. The test
came
back after she was pts. I called Phil to let him know. He will adopt out
any
who are adoptable and has kept many cats himself.

Anyway I will miss Baby Girl. She was just getting freindly after 6
years
and would rub up against all that she used to run away from. The vet was
so kind she is going to bury her in her yard . She is now an Angel.


-- 
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angel),
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Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan

2009-01-12 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Jennifer, have you consulted a vet who knows more about FeLV?  That
could be crucial in Mr. Darcy's treatment.  You can just call vets in
your local area and ask if they are knowledgeable about FeLV, and if so
make an appointment with one of them and get him checked out.  If
nothing else, you'd be more sure about where Mr. Darcy stands.  Good
luck to you and eat something! vibes to Mr. Darcy.  I love his name!

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Dykhouse
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan


Hello all,
 
I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last
stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell.  He was symptom
free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago
when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and
it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic
and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of
his leukemia.  
 
We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's
now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to
help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7
lbs 5 oz, which is not good.
 
He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at
night.  Anything we can do to help him would be great.  Is there a
website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet
isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. 
 
Thanks so much!
 
Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14
-0600From: Lisapony lisap...@aol.comSubject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo:
felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:
04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.comContent-Type: TEXT/plain;
charset=us-ascii
 Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat
Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced.  Lisa
Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075
voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon,
12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: Sally Davis
putty...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo:
felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d
750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do
not have experience because my cat died before this became
readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on
another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally
involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it
on some of FELV positivecats
Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate
angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy,
Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please
Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten

2008-12-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Lorrie and Gary --

I have no practical advice here, just vibes coming for both these
babies. 

Diane R.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten

One of my FeLV cats is very anemic now and her anemia just hasn't
responded 
to treatment, I will lose her this week as she has now refused to let me

syringe feed her anymore, she has always been very good about it and
about 
taking meds and now wants no part of it.  There are many things you can
try 
to get the anemia reversed, Epogen as previously mentioned,
Immunoregulin, 
etc., but you may need a transfusion to give them time to work. 
Unfortunately, for my baby the transfusion didn't seem to do much good
at 
all and her numbers just keep going down.

One of my first FeLV kittens had the same problem with his back legs,
over a 
period of a couple of days they just stopped working and he couldn't
pee. 
Tried a lot of different things but never got better and I never found
out 
what caused it, please post if your vet finds out the cause.

You might want to join the anemia group on yahoo.

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:32 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sick FelV kitten


 One of our FelV kittens is very anemic.  Has anyone ever tried iron
 suppliments?  We went back to the vet yesterday, and got her vitamins
 and iron, and hope this will buy her a bit more time.

 She is 8 months old and only weighs 3 1/2 pounds.  She didn't
 actually lose the weight, she just never gained anymore weight
 than that, as she is also a small cat.

 She recently lost control of her back legs and the vet isn't sure
 this is caused by the FelV.  He thinks it may be a neurological
 thing.. This happened suddenly about a week ago. First she was
 wobbly and then she got so she couldn't stand at all, and also lost
 control of her bladder and bowels.  She is still eating and does not
 seem to be in any pain.  Otherwise I'd put her to sleep. She is my
 daughter's favorite cat, and she doesn't want to do this unless the
 cat is in distress.  I just wondered if any of you had ever seen this
 lose of mobility in a FelV cat?   Advice please.

 Thanks,  Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article

2008-12-12 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Argh!  My mother got C. diff when she was in a nursing home, and it was
a horrible horrible thing.  It didn't kill her, but it took months to
clear up.  She had fallen and broken a hip and a wrist, and the constant
diarrhea made everything much much harder for her and her caretakers.
I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get it from visiting her!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article

http://bulletin.aarp.org/opinions/othervoices/articles/a_hospital_germ_o
n_the_warpath_.html

Opinion -  A Hospital Germ on the WarpathYou can take some simple  
steps to avoid infection
By Betsy McCaughey - November 1, 2008 - From the AARP Bulletin print  
edition

Grace Voros was 85 and enjoying life, watching her family grow and  
taking romantic walks with the man she fell in love with 61 years ago,  
when she took a minor fall. She went to the hospital for an x-ray,  
where tests confirmed she had no broken bones. But while there, she  
contracted an infection no one in the family had ever heard about, C.  
diff, and died.

C. diff, short for Clostridium difficile, is raging through hospitals,  
infecting hundreds of thousands of patients a year. The bacteria  
contaminate every surface, including bed rails, bed tables, nurses'  
uniforms, privacy curtains, faucets and call buttons. When patients  
touch these surfaces and then pick up food without washing their  
hands, they ingest the germ. Any patient taking antibiotics who  
ingests C. diff is in danger of developing severe diarrhea, leading to  
dehydration, inflammation of the colon and even death.

Routine cleaning isn't enough to protect you from C. diff. Researchers  
at Case Western Reserve and the Cleveland VA Medical Center found that  
after routine cleaning at a hospital, 78 percent of surfaces were  
still contaminated. To kill the germ, you need to use bleach.

When surfaces are not properly disinfected, the results can be deadly.  
At Thomas Jefferson Medical Center in Philadelphia, three consecutive  
patients occupying the same room came down with C. diff. One died.

Staffs at many U.S. hospitals are woefully uninformed about what to  
do. One study reported that 39 percent of medical personnel didn't  
know that C. diff could be spread on stethoscopes, blood pressure  
cuffs and other equipment. About two-thirds of medical staff were  
unaware they should clean their hands with soap and water, because  
alcohol sanitizers don't kill this superbug.

What can you do to protect yourself? Insist that everyone treating you  
clean their hands before touching you.

Clean your own hands thoroughly before eating. Do not touch your hands  
to your lips. Do not place your food or utensils on any surface except  
your plate. Ask family to bring wipes containing bleach to clean the  
items around your bed.

When you leave the hospital, assume any belongings you bring home are  
contaminated. Do not mix clothes from the hospital with the family  
wash; wash with bleach. Regular laundry detergents do not kill C. diff.

If you are visiting someone in the hospital, be careful about eating  
in the cafeteria or a restaurant where the staff go in their scrubs or  
uniforms. These uniforms could be covered in invisible superbugs. More  
than 20 percent of nurses' uniforms had C. diff on them at the end of  
a workday, according to one study. Imagine sliding into a restaurant  
booth after a nurse has left the germ on the table or the seat. You  
could easily pick it up on your hands and then ingest it with your  
sandwich.

Poor hospital hygiene and lax practices such as wearing scrubs in  
public are putting all of us at risk. That's why I founded RID, the  
Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, so that other families won't  
have to go through what Grace Voros' family suffered.

Betsy McCaughey is a former lieutenant governor of New York.





On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:27 AM, dlg...@windstream.net
dlg...@windstream.net 
  wrote:

 yes it is.  story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall.   
 went to hospital for x-ray.  no broken bones, but contracted c. diff  
 and died.   article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008.  if  
 someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will  
 do.  dorlis
  catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote:
 what is the germ?  is it c-diff?  My grandmother died from that in  
 August.  Evidently it's highly contagious.
  tonya

 dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only  
 Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said  
 that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash  
 hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc  
 should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in 

Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Woodgie and Grey to the candlelightingceremony

2008-12-09 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Gentle Bridge vibes to Woodgie.  That's way too young, but if as you say
there's a history of heart trouble in her family, it's probably a good
age for her.  Sorry it was so sudden though, it must have been so
horrible for you.  Hugs.

Never too late to acknowledge Grey.  He's probably welcoming Woodgie to
the Bridge along with your other angels.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Woodgie and Grey to the
candlelightingceremony

Dear Belinda,
Would you please add my Woodgie's name to the candlelighting
ceremony list?  She was not feline leukemia positive.  She was 9 years
old, a sweet little tortie girl, who had severe allergies all her life,
including those awful rodent ulcers on her lip now and then.  I don't
know what she died of but since she was doing great only hours
beforehand, and demanding her lunch and eating it heartily, I am
thinking heart.  Two of her siblings died young of heart problems but
since she survived her youth, I thought she was safe.  She died
Thanksgiving day, November 27, 2008.

Grey died on May 17th, 2008, at age 16.  I feel terrible I forgot to
ask you to add his name to the list at that time, apparently.  He was
not FeLV positive, either.  He was really my daughter's cat, although he
ended up with me for most of his life.  He was a friendly, bottle-cap
fetching lovable comedian, all grey but with a white splash on his chest
for flair.  He died of liver cancer.

   Thanks, Belinda,
Anne in Michigan with FeLV angels Buggs, Jimi Too Cool, Simms, Nala and
Sammy and  other beloveds waiting for me at the bridge
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Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (dowe still have one?)

2008-12-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
B.B. sounds like a great little soul.  It's so hard when some seemingly
inconsequential thing becomes life-or-death.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes
to B.B. and hugs to you for your love and care.

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service
(dowe still have one?)

One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2,  
2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list.  He was a  
double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the  
Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue.  I've fostered him  
since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat.  But he  
developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with  
that ever since.  He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of  
days.

He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had  
other things going on, I'm not sure.

B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge  
early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan Losing kitties

2008-11-25 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Amber

Welcome to the list, and condolences on losing Parker.

People can be so very stupid.  Of course you're sad about Parker, and
will be sad when it's Neo's time.  But unless you keep only, like,
elephants or gorillas or parrots for pets, chances are good that you'll
outlive even a healthy kitty, and you'll be sad then anyway.  And to the
other argument, you can bet that if someone's human family member
becomes very ill, they aren't saying, better snuff Mom, she's taking the
doctors' attention away from other people.  You're right, these babies
didn't ask for this to happen to them, and they deserve some kindness
for whatever time they have.  And you'll see on this list, some of them
really can have a lot of time left!

Diane R.

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTIC/Imulan  Losing kitties


Hello everyone,

   I am new to this listserv, but wanted to thank all of you in advance
for your insights and kindness! I recently adopted 2 FeLV positive
cats, Neo and Parker (1 in April and 1 in September). I knew their
lives would be cut short by the illness, but wanted to give them a
happy, comfortable life before they left this world. 

 

  Some friends and family members have given us grief over purposely
adopting these sick kitties. I've heard things to the effect of You'll
be sad when they die to You're keeping a healthy cat from having a
home. But I didn't (and still don't care) what the naysayers have to
say. I know that I'm doing a good service to these cats that otherwise
would be euthanized before they  needed to be or would be without a
loving home. Someone (who was in my corner) told me that she worked at
a shelter once and no one would even play with the FeLV cats, let alone
adopt them. This solidified my belief for the need of loving homes of
these forgotten felines! Their happiness is more important than my
sadness, as profound as it may be. 

 

  I'm saddened to report that baby Parker (who we got more recently in
September) died on November 8th. It was a sad death as he suddenly
collapsed and died a couple of hours later in our home. It was late at
night and the emergency vet closest to us was in surgery. Other vet
services were an hour or more away. We saw him take his last few
breaths and wanted to end his suffering sooner (but couldn't). But he
died knowing (hopefully) that he was loved and that he didn't die
alone. He was the sweetest cat ever! :(

 

  Our other cat, Neo is doing great! He's not showing any symptoms, has
put on weight since we got him, and has a strong appetite! I recently
read about LTIC/Imulan and told my vet about it. He didn't know too
much about it as it's a newer medication, but I asked him to order some
for Neo. It's quite expensive, but if I would have known about it
sooner I would have tried it on little baby Parker to help him. Since
Neo is quite healthy, I'm not sure what effect it will have on him, but
I'd do anything to keep him as healthy as we can for as long as we can.
I'd be most pleased if anyone tries this with their cat and could tell
me how it works out. Also, did  your cat have any symptoms before or
were they asymptomatic before starting treatment?

 

   Thanks for reading and for all that you do for your beloved cats!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone

2008-11-21 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sue, I'm so very sorry.  Gentle rest to your little guy.

Diane R. 

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Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS.  I feel like a very
large piece of me is missing.

The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him.  He was terrified,
cowering between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my
brothers' house.  He had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban
area where my brother used to live.  When my sister in law, Lee, rescued
him he was very sick, full of parasites, starving and near death.  She
and my brother nursed him back to physical health but he was still
terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw because of the way his
claws flew whenever anyone got near him.  That day Lee caught him in a
blanket and handed him to me.  I sat with him and gently pet him and
talked to him.  Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left
that day he reached up to me and touched noses.

After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him.  When I brought
him home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used
to, and to keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the
vet a few days later his feline leukemia test came back positive.  Buzz
was going to live in the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat
toys and a cat tree and pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I
could. Every evening I would spend hours with him.  I was working on a
computer project and he kept me company with that. That is how it was
from January of '07 to April.  At that point it was clear that keeping
him separate was not working.  We vaccinated the other cats for feline
leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house.  He loved his
new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to watch
what was going on.  His favorite place was a window bench that looks out
on the bird feeder.  At night he either slept on a ledge right behind my
head or cuddled up next to me, purring.  When July came I noticed that
he seemed to have no energy and was not eating.  When we took him to the
vet the diagnosis was anemia.  With heavy doses of prednesolone his
health and red blood count began to come back.  I was so happy watching
my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite.  While he was
recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap.  He
loved sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his
fur.  He would sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and
hold him.  In the evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser
pointer.  His blood was being tested every couple of weeks and soon it
was in the normal range.  We began to back off on the prednesolone.  For
several weeks everything was going well until the week that his blood
count started going the wrong direction.  I prayed that it was just the
one time but unfortunately not.  That horrible disease was in his bone
marrow and the medication was no longer helping.  For the last several
weeks I watched as he became more and more lethargic.  We offered him
every special treat we could think of to keep him eating and he would
nibble on those tidbits almost to the end.  He would sit all day on his
window seat and for the last week we carried him to the litter box.  He
always watched every move I made as I moved around the kitchen. Today
when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead of watching, I knew
it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took him to the vet
I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at the
bridge.  Then he went to sleep in my arms.  I will miss him so very
much, but now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia.

Sue

 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Trish Please add to the CLS :(

2008-11-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, I'm so sorry you lost Trish.  That happened to one of the
kitties at the Katrina shelter I volunteered at for a few months.
Frenzy had just gotten adopted, and then they found out she was full of
cancer.  It seemed so unfair that she had been through so much already,
and then that.  Gentle Bridge vibes to Trish, and hugs to you for all
the love you gave her.

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Trish Please add to the CLS :(

Ok so this was another horrible heartbreak for me.I dont know if I ever
mentioned Trish before.She and her 2 other sisters came to us felv
pos.Just little babies.The moment I saw little Trishs beautiful crazy
paint job of a face my heart skipped a beat!! I cried and fell totally
in love with her.So I made it my personal duty to make sure she knew she
was loved,same as my Melina,I think they thought their names were I LOVE
YOU!! :) Little Trish always told me she loved me too. :)
She and her sisters were adopted by a great guy that volunteers with
us.He took them home not even 2 weeks ago.He took her into Jen today for
some issues she was having,and Jen found that she was full of cancer and
had blockages.So they let her go peacefully.She was strong little
girl.My heart is hurting very muvh right now.
Sherry


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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?

2008-11-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
 Lisa -- I think what Chris suggests below is very important.  Your baby
needs a vet whose choices aren't limited to euthanize or isolate.
Best of luck in finding a great, FeLV-knowledgeable vet.

Diane R.

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I would perhaps seek out a vet who has had some experience with treating
the
things that come up w. a FELV cat.  My original vet, who I loved,
honestly
told me he hadn't had much experience an helped me find someone who did.
I
ended up with a friend's vet who it turned out was the vet for a small
little FELV rescue in the area.  He's laid back, takes everything in
stride,
and has a lot of patients in mixed households.  Its real important, I
found,
to have a vet who works with you  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo's story...

2008-11-11 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I think it's important to share a kitty's story when he or she passes --
at other times too, of course, but particularly then.  It gives the
bereaved some closure, it celebrates the kitty's life and tells people
just how unique that one little furball really was.   

The listmom on another list -- some of you know Gesine -- thinks it's
very important to tell a kitty its own story occasionally, and in times
of crisis like illness or the kitty coming to the end of its time.

Diane R.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo's story...

Thank you all for your kind words and to those who still struggle with
sick
kitties, I know how hard it is and how hopeful you all are.  This board
continues to help with an incredible wealth of very practical down to
earth
info...  It was because of all of you that I knew instantly what the vet
was
saying when she said lymphoma.  I knew the options and possibilities and
could ask the right questions and could make an informed decision when I
needed to.  

 

Romeo's story is not unique==I really posted it for all those who are
just
getting into the FELV world-for them to know that no matter what, its
all
worth it.  I found myself smiling tonight as I thought about all those
goofy
things he did-I don't think he was ever allowed to be a kitten and he
made
up for it as he got older-he loved playing just like little kittens do.
No
matter the worry or the cost, giving him that opportunity was worth it
whether he stayed 5 years or 5 months or 5 days.  

 

Christiane Biagi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....

2008-11-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Chris, thank you for telling us Romeo's story.  He's surely telling all the 
Bridge kitties a similar story, but it's all about how great YOU are and how he 
trained you into a loving mommy.  Hugs to you.

Diane R.

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It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to
lymphoma.  I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who
wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know
enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc.  And the
resounding answer is YES YES YES.  My Romeo was a throw away stray that I
first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony
near me.  He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running
across the field when I'd whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn't miss
him.  He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury
everybody's food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving.  I knew
someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he'd scamper away,
just out of reach, cowering.  

 

Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we've had in
a long time.  One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major
snowstorm.  Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him
in.  I even had an adoptive home ready-but he turned out to be positive and
they couldn't handle it.  Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks,
watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren't
that bad.  Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he
thought I was asleep.  Little baby steps-first the food dish got moved next
to his crate.  Then the litter box in the bathroom.  And slowly, he'd come
out during the day.  I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my
monitor to spot him on my bed.  You could see it in his face-this is
niiice and from that point on, he was totally
comfortable being in and around we humans.  Funny thing is that he never
really wanted to get out-he rarely sat at the window-the couch and the bed
were always much more comfortable for him!

 

Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you'd ever
want to meet.  Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him
in any way---he was just too scared.  But he'd jump up on me, lie on my
chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and
otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm
and loved.  My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take
much of a liking to him-all jealousy, I'm sure.  But Romeo persevered and
the two of them had come to terms with each other...

 

His final illness took him quickly.  He'd never been real sick before-had
some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it.  Going to
the vet was a major trauma for him so I'd always worked with my wonderful
vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum.  But today was one of those days
that I knew he had to get to the vet asap.  He'd been feeling poorly during
the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard-like he
couldn't catch his breath.  He'd been on antibiotics for what I thought was
another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot
more.  My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they
confirmed the lymphoma.  He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had
filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could
never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood
would only give him a short extension of his life.  So, I made that decision
we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was
time.  I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him.

 

And do I regret taking him in-ABSOLUTELY NOT.  He gave me so many wonderful
memories and he will always be in my heart.  And did he regret coming
inside-ABSOLUTELY NOT-he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know
that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold
and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone.  We can't save them
forever-but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so
very much about life from these little guys.  

 

Christiane Biagi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Murdoch,Cody,Bijou and London

2008-11-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, this is good news indeed.  May they all continue to prosper.

Diane R. 

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Hi all,as you remember I sent out a prayer and good thought request for
these babies.Well I am happy to report that all four seem to be doing
very good right now.Bijou did lose her sight,but we think she can still
see shadows.Bijou also went home with one of our volunteers and seems
very happy.Sorry I took so long on the update.Thank you ALL so much for
your kind words and prayers.may all of you and your fuzzer butts stay
healthy.
Sherry and my 5 fuzzer butts Rafferty,CouCous,Xander,Tristan and
Mystique


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Re: [Felvtalk] tests

2008-10-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Welcome, Sally.  I'm glad you got so many good answers so quickly --
we've all been through what you're going through now, some many times
over.  It's great that you and your vet are working together on this and
that you already have a plan.  Best of luck to you and the kitties.
Nobody can guarantee that there won't still be some crying down the road
for you, but at least it won't be from powerlessness and lack of
information.  This list is a great source of advice, emotional support
and good information.  Many of us, like me, don't even have an FeLV+ cat
anymore, we just stuck around because everybody is so nice!

Diane R. 

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] tests

You and the others on this site are ANGELS!  You will be glad to
know that I stopped crying, called my vet, and have a plan of action.
Please, keep us in your hearts and heads, I will be asking a lot of
questions in the months to come because I am keeping the mom.


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 Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 10:36 AM
 The ELISA test takes a blood sample from the lower leg, and
 is  
 inexpensive. It's not that accurate, as there are false
 positives and  
 sometimes false negatives. We had 2 three month old kittens
 who became  
 negative within 1 month, and one that became negative 3
 months later.
 
 You can retest after about 2-3 months with the Elisa again.
 Better yet  
 is the IFA test. It checks whether the felv has reached the
 bone  
 marrow- the vet sends a blood sample to a lab and is a tad
 more  
 expensive but much more accurate.
 
 However,the best alternative after a positice elisa test is
 the new  
 PCR test. It's so new you won't see it in many
 google searches. It can  
 detect even minute quanitites of the virus and is the most
 accurate  
 test out there- also sent to the lab. Best after two
 consecutive  
 positive ELISA tests.
 
 Your kitties can fight off the virus and change to negative
 though  
 it's not guaranteed. They probably got it from their
 mother. Many  
 kittens can and do fight it off which is why early testinf
 is often  
 inaccurate. In order to do so, you'll need to provide a
 low stress  
 environment, indoor only home to reduce exposure to germs,
 premium  
 food mostly canned (wellness, innova evo, natures variety  
 instinct,etc), clean the litterbox and dishes daily and
 have more than  
 one box, vaccuum and keep them flea and worm free, as well
 as spend  
 time playing with the kittens and giving them affection,
 toys, warm  
 places to sleep.
 
 There are no guarantees but it is possible to go from
 positive to  
 negative. Just takes dedication and having hope...
 
 And others will tell you a felv positive diagnosis is not a
 death  
 sentence!
 There are plenty of people here who have healthy cats with
 felv that  
 have had long lives.
 
 I don't know about financial assistance, but you should
 try and talk  
 to your vet about payment options. The cheapest ELISA test
 I found ran  
 about $25-30 here in LA.
 
 Also, you can do you best to change their positive status
 to negative  
 in the next few months. Even if they don't, you can
 adopt them out  
 when they are a bit older after you've tried or just
 try to adopt them  
 out now and tell people they are positive for now but could
 change..
 
 
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:51 PM, SALLY NORDSTROM
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  I'm getting real confused about the available
 tests and their  
  accuracy.  Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
 
  I had to file a bankruptcy and can't afford
 testing.  Is there  
  someplace that can give me help?
 
  How hard is it going to be to place my rescued kittens
 in homes?   
  What resources should I be using?
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive

2008-10-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Welcome, Brenda!  Sorry Spazzy is so ill, but you've come to the right place 
for info.  You will be getting a lot of it in a very short time, but just to 
start out, your vet is way wrong about the bone marrow biopsy.  Yikes!  What 
you need to get is an IFA test.  It's much more accurate than the test that 
would have been done in that long ten minutes -- it's a blood test that's sent 
to a lab and IT is the way to find out if the disease is in the marrow.  You 
probably need, and I know this can be daunting, to find a vet who is more 
knowledgeable about FeLV.  If yours is willing to learn, that's good but with 
an already sick kitty you probably need someone who's up to speed now.

Here's the mini-drill:  lots of love, keep stress levels low, give good food 
(Iams is pretty good, but there are better ones you can get at the pet shop) 
with meat as the FIRST ingredient in the list and low on grains.  You can give 
the supplement L-Lysine (from the health food store, not the human stuff from 
the drugstore, which has bad additives).  Your vet may be talking about 
immunoregulin, which has been a big help to some kitties on this list.

Probably you need to reassess Spazzy's condition once the runnies are under 
control.  If he bounces back from that after the Clav, you'll have a better 
idea of his overall health.  

It may be that it's just a passing cold not directly related to the FeLV, in 
which case he may be around for quite a while.  Or it could be that he's gotten 
to the really-sick stage and there may not be much you can do.  (That's how it 
was with my Patches, a stray we brought in who crashed within 6 weeks).  In 
that case, by bringing him in you are giving him the great kindness of a safe 
and loving place to be for however long rather than out on his own.  Bless you 
for caring for him. 

Diane R.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Stray Kitty I took in tests positive

Hello,

I recently took in a stray cat that had been hanging around my neighborhood for 
some time. He's such a nice boy and I had been feeding him for a few months 
before I took him in. What made me take him in was he became very sick with an 
upper respiratory infection and I had just felt so bad because the mucous that 
was coming from his nose was green, not too mention he was having a hard time 
breathing. I took him to my Vet who said he was a very sick kitty, he was close 
to pneumonia treated him with antibiotics and sent us home. I was to follow up 
with vaccinations and a neuter.  He did finish his course of antibiotics, and 
days after I went on a family vacation for 10 days. My pet sitter stopped by 
daily to feed my animals, and walk the dogs. I received a call from the pet 
sitter stating she was sorry but the cat (Spazzy) had ran past her when she was 
taking the dogs out. I told her not to worry just try calling him and he should 
come back. Well that went
 on for days and no Spazzy. When I finally got home from vacation I was worried 
about him because he had been gone for about a week, I looked around the 
neighborhood but couldn't find him. Well about a month and a half had passed 
one morning while I was heading out the door to work, he was sitting at my back 
door. I was happy to see him, but was concerned because it seemed his upper 
respiratory infection was back. I brought him in the house, feed and watered 
him and off to work I went. I called my Vet who was booked for the weekend and 
couldn't see him until Monday. I was too concerned to wait so I figured it 
would be best to see a different Vet. Well Mr. Houdini as I like to call him 
(Spazzy) had gotten out. I was heartbroken and worried because he was sick . I 
again searched the neighborhood for him but had no luck at finding him. About a 
week had passed and I spotted him while I was walking my dogs. I was able to 
grab him, brought him back home and
 called the Vet. I took him in the following morning but seen a different Vet 
at the practice. Dr. McGinn had said he was sick but she wanted to check for 
Feline Leukemia because where he was treated not that long ago chances are he 
probably did have it. Not too mention he also had ulcers in his mouth which she 
stated is common for cats with feline L. Well those 10 minutes were very long 
just waiting, I hoped and prayed it was negative but it turned out he was 
positive. He was seen 10/13/08 was treated with Amoxi drops, twice a day until 
gone. Initially he seemed to be getting better, but a week and a half after I 
noticed he was sneezing but this time no mucous was visible just blood. I 
called the Vet's office once they opened, I had explained what was going on and 
was told Dr. McGinn would call me back by the end of the day. She did return my 
call and said she's changing his antibiotic to something stronger. She put him 

Re: [Felvtalk] ALL KITTENS NEGATIVE !!!! YIPPE !!!!!!!!!

2008-10-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so happy for your good news!!  The kittens are precious (as all
kittens are) and the pic of THE PILE makes me want to join them in the
cage.  Here are vibes that they all find just the right homes!

Diane R. 

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This is a story that I am hoping will give those of you who have a
positive
Mom, with a litter of kittens, some hope!

I was told by so many rescues and cat related people and vets etc that
because Mom tested positive, the kitten would no doubt be also.

I was also told by the rescue I am working with, that the loner I could
wait
to test them, the better chance they have of *throwing it off* and they
get
it in their system from the mom's milk.

Well, on October 13th, they *ALL* tested negative !~
So..there is hope for kittens of positive Mom's !
They were born between June 20th and June 27th, so waiting until October
gave them lots of time... and it worked!  Thank goodness.

You can see lots of photos of them and read the story here on my forum.
I
have the most gorgeous photos of each one by themselves in the bottom
post  The first post has the story about them and videos of
them.

Enjoy .it is a wonderful outcome and I hope it
encourages
anyone who needs it :)  :)

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Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey

2008-10-21 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better.  I don't know anything about
this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would
prevent reoccurrence later?  I know chemo is never an easy thing.  Hugs
to both of you.

Diane R. 

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I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through.  I wrote a couple
of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed
from his leg that kept bleeding.  The biopsy came back as malignant
hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he
was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come
back in his lungs or heart.  I don't think I want to put him through
chemo if it does.  I want him to have as many good days as he can.

 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Grumpy Gus is gone

2008-10-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sam, I'm so sorry you lost Grumpy Gus.  I'm glad you were there for him.

Diane R. 

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The abandoned Former Grey Tom Cat that I took in and called Grumpy Gus

or Gus for short, has passed on, this disease is horrible, the list of

issues he had are long. He sounded like two cats fighting when he meows.

He was loved, inside, well fed and had Vet care, unlike so many that do 
not in the care of Companions.

Please add him to Mondays list please.

Sam

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bijou,Cody,Murdoch and London

2008-10-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hope they all pull through.  Vibes coming.

Diane R. 

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Hi all could you please add these 4 Sids kids to your prayers.3 are battling 
high temps and Bijou is struggling with her eyesight.Just keep them in your 
thoughts.Thank you.
Sherry
 


 
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Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Piggee Piggee is gone

2008-10-14 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Carolyn, I'm so sorry.  I'm glad Piggee was happy at the vet's.  That's
so rare!  Gentle Bridge vibes and rest to him.  He's telling everykitty
up there about his great mommy and his great vet.

Diane R.

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I'm cross-posting this from the epi-felines yahoo group.  Wanted you
guys to know I lost another foster...to the dreaded fip, yet again.
Thanks for your support.  

It is with a very heavy heart that I report to you that my Piggee has
left me.  It is especially sad for me since Piggee and I have only been
members since Sept- when he had a weekend of cluster seizures due to a
mistake in the pheno dosing.  Last time I checked in with the group,
Piggee's pheno level had been tested and was too high and I was
desperate to get it down b/c his lethargy was so pronounced.  However, I
took him to the vet Friday morning b/c his lethargy was not getting
better, he hadn't eaten, and hadn't had a bm in 2 days, and I noted the
dreaded swollen belly of fluid in the stomach (there was).  I was
praying that I didn't have yet another FIP foster cat on my
hands...altho I realized that alone could now explain the seizures that
began in July.  I left him with the vet over the weekend b/c I had a bad
feeling and I have had 2 foster cats 'crash' on me over weekends in the
past (and my boyfriend was in the hospital all week and being released
Friday and I needed to get him home and settled, etc etc).  I did not
feel bad about leaving Piggee Piggee at the vets b/c he LOVED his vet
and the whole time we were there, he kept trying to get out of the room
when he would hear his vet's distinctive voice--trying to get to his
vet!  He loved being at the clinic (I don't know why?  But he did!).  He
would just purr and purr and get all perky.  The vet drew fluid on
Friday and said we would need to await the full analysis but it was
bright yellow like urine-- which told me to prepare myself for FIP.  I
had already decided if it came back FIP, I would let him go b/c having 2
fosters die of it in Jan and Feb last year, I didn't want him to suffer
more- especially since it made him epileptic.  Over the weekend,
apparently, Piggee did wonderfully (as I knew he would b/c he loves the
vet and the clinic)-- he ate, he peed, he had a bm, and he was overall
totally perked up per the clinic staff and just having a good time.  

But the vet called today and said he did great over the weekend, but he
crashed this a.m. out of nowhere.  He threw up in his crate and it was
full of 'coffee grounds'- which was blood.  AND the full fluid analysis
came back and it was FIP.  So I told the doctor we will put him down.  I
asked what Piggee was doing and the doc said unfortunately, he crashed
bad and he's pretty much comatose, non-responsive, on oxygen and they
had to trach him w/o anesthesia so he was not happy.  That broke my
heart and I told the doctor I would be there as soon as possible to get
there to say goodbye and let him go-- which is what I did.  

When I put my hand on Piggee, he barely opened his mouth and let out a
low, long, meow and the vet said 'that is the first time all day he's
said anything.'  As I pet him and stroked his nose (like I always did
with him), he continued to talk to me like that and the doctor just kept
saying that it's the most responsive he's been- that he hasn't even had
much of a pupil or eye reflex, but he's talking to me.  So he knew I was
there for him at that final moment..., as I have been there for Monkee,
Possee and Brumley in their final moments when they were called home.  

I will miss my Piggee Piggee so much.  I feel bad that I couldn't have
done more for him.  I know he never would have been given a chance if it
hadn't been for me.  I was his first foster that got him thru 2 URI's
that I thought he would never beat; and I was his final foster and home
when the people that adopted him returned him to me in August because of
his seizures.  He was a perfectly healthy boy, except for the seizures.
I wanted to get him on the phenobarbital and treat him and try to give
him a chance to beat the seizures-- which inevitably he did do.  

Thank you to everyone who did offer us advice and support in the brief
time that we needed you.  God bless all of you that care of epileptic
cats everyday. Piggee Piggee thanks you for caring for these most
special cats.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi

2008-10-07 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Robin, I'm so sorry you lost Kiwi.  He knows you did everything within
your power.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you.

Diane R. 

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Kiwi is with God now.  I'm to upset to say anything else right now.
Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] So Happy!

2008-09-23 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Great news, Sue! Way to go, Tweezer!

Diane R. 

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Hello everyone!
Tweezers tests came back and it is likely that all that is wrong with
him (Besides being positive) is a secondary infection!  No liver stint.
No blood parasites, no crystals, no micro cystosis.  He already looks so
much better.  His eyes are not goopy, he seems to be gaining weight and
no more watery stools. He actually was playing for the last day or so!
Celebrate !! (Dance! Dance! Dance!)
Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] Sharkey Please add to the CLS :(

2008-09-23 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oh, damn.  Gentle Bridge vibes to Sharkey.  He knew he was loved.

Diane R. 

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Well he was going to get to go home with his foster parents when he was
well enough to,but he had worsen very quickly. We lost him on the 18th.
He was a beautiful gray and white fluffy boy.He had a loving home for 5
months.
Sherry


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New member

2008-09-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Lorrie --

Glad you found this group.  You'll get lots of great advice here.

Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the
kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then, it
would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway.
Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens!

Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst of
what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you might want
to consider finding another vet, at least for these babies.  The fact
that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in her favor, but the
kittens would be better served by someone on the cutting edge of FeLV.
Or, if she's willing to work with you, you can print off stuff from the
files on the felineleukemia.org website and help her expand her
knowledge base. ;-)

I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease.  If they aren't,
depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus.  But if they
don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic.  FeLV *isn't* an
automatic death sentence these days.  You'll get lots of advice here on
diet and supplements, and (along with some heartache) some nice success
stories.

Diane R.

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Hello Everyone,

I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue 
and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time.

For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested
all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put
down to protect my other cats.  I've felt horribly guilty ever
since, and because of this I quit testing.

I started testing again about 4 years ago when I began taking care 
of a feral colony I discovered in our small town of Terra Alta, WV.
There were always kittens I couldn't find homes for, and if I kept
them, or kept any strays that were dumped at our house I felt I should
have them tested.. None of them were ever positive. I guess I was
just lucky, but now my luck has run out. Several kittens in a litter
I rescued have tested positive for FelV.

I intend to learn everything I can about FelV, and meanwhile I'll
vaccinate my negative cats with the FelV vaccine. In the 80's it
wasn't too effective, so I hope it's improved I'd appreciate 
input on the efficacy of the vaccine.

I understand FelV is contagious, but not highly contagious. From what
I've read it is apparently spread through blood (bites) food dishes,
water bowls and mutual grooming.  The virus apparently doesn't live
long outside the cat's body, but in even a few hours other cats could
be infected.  The vet didn't tell me to euthanize the positive
kittens, but she did give me a grim outlook :-(

I'd appreciate hearing from any of you in regard to this.

Lorrie in Terra Alta, WV


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Re: [Felvtalk] Letter from new member

2008-09-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
The thing about the cat walking in the same space is very farfetched.
FeLV is more easily transmitted than FIV, but this kind of casual
contact won't do it.  Many people here will tell you how their FeLV
positive and negative cats have hung out together for years with zero
transmission.  If your vet is willing to do the homework, bring her
stuff from this website about transmission and treatment options.  The
L-lysine is a great start.  Feed them food that's as good as you can
afford -- high protein, low grain, etc.  Wellness isn't the absolute
best, but it's not bad and not hideously expensive.  Some people here
swear by holistic medicine and raw feeding for their cats, and will
certainly chime in with more info.  Stress them as little as possible.
Watch for stuff like anemia, which often turns up in FeLV kitties, and
be vigilant about stuff you'd let run its course in other cats, like
respiratory things.  These cats can live relatively long lives with good
care and luck and lots of love.

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Hi, Diane,

Thanks for replying to my first post on this group. The kittens are 5
1/2 months old now.  I've been trying to find homes for them since
they were 8 weeks old, but no luck :-(  I had no clue that some of
them had FelV until a friend adopted one, and it became extremely
sick. It was tested for FelV and soon died.  The others are still
fine, they had their shots and other than feeling bad for 24 hours,
which most kittens do, they recovered and are running all over.

My vet is good. She has always answered all my questions, given me
plenty of time, and she is also understanding about my ordering vet
meds online to save money.  In fact she will tell me what to use and
what dosages to give.  The vet I used before got p.o'ed  big time
about this!  There are only 2 vet clinics in our very small town, and
I really like the one I use now. I assume she had to cover her butt
by giving me a worst case scenario on FelV.  One of the things she
told me, that didn't seem right, was that felV could be transmitted in
ways other than by sharing food  water bowls, grooming or biting 
My cats often escape their quarters, and my vet indicated that a
negative cat might walk where a positive cat had been and pick up the
virus.  This sounded a bit far fetched to me.  What do you think? 
Is she just covering all bases?

I am now giving the kittens L Lysine, which I understand will help
boost their immune systems, however they are all still together. I
have no place to separate them.  I have 15 cats at home (they are
rescued inside/outside cats) and I bought a building in town which I
use as a shelter. There are 33 cats there, so we're full up!  These
cats are not in cages, they all have individual rooms, but the rooms
are full, without being over crowded.  I'm working on finding more
space where all FelV cats can be separated.

Thanks for writing.

Lorrie in WV


On 09-19, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote:
 Hi, Lorrie --
 
 Glad you found this group.  You'll get lots of great advice here.
 
 Firstly, don't beat yourself up too much -- it's too bad about the
 kitties you put to sleep, but nobody knew much about FeLV back then,
it
 would have been universally considered to be a death sentence anyway.
 Now, there is so much hope for your positive kittens!
 
 Admittedly, your vet was probably trying to let you know the worst
 of what you're facing, but if all she can offer is grimness, you
 might want to consider finding another vet, at least for these
 babies.  The fact that she didn't suggest euthanasia is a point in
 her favor, but the kittens would be better served by someone on the
 cutting edge of FeLV. Or, if she's willing to work with you, you
 can print off stuff from the files on the felineleukemia.org
 website and help her expand her knowledge base. ;-)
 
 I assume the kittens are not showing signs of disease.  If they
 aren't, depending on their age, they may yet shake off the virus. 
 But if they don't, there are still ways to keep them asymptomatic. 
 FeLV *isn't* an automatic death sentence these days.  You'll get
 lots of advice here on diet and supplements, and (along with some
 heartache) some nice success stories.
 
 Diane R.
 
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 Hello Everyone,
 
 I'm a new member to the FelV group, but not new to cat rescue 
 and TNR, which I've been doing for a long time.
 
 For years I didn't test for FelV, because back in the 1980's I tested
 all of my cats for it, and two were positive, so I put had them put
 down to protect my other cats.  I've felt horribly guilty ever
 since, and because of this I quit testing.
 
 I

Re: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue

2008-09-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
They are so beautiful!  Great job with the TNR and rescue!!

Diane R. 

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:56 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT- Friday Night Lights Kitty Rescue

I was on the set of the Friday Night Lights TV show, where I sometimes
works as an extra.  I was hanging around waiting for the shooting to
start
when I noticed one of the principals, Taylor
Kitschhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/,
petting a cat and feeding her ice cream off the catering truck.   I
asked
him if he knew anything about the cat and he said, No, but she's
friendly!  I went and got the kitty some cat food, bowls, and water out
of
my truck.  One of the other principals, Minka
Kelly,http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1310368/seemed amazed that I had
produced a 20 pound bag of cat food in the middle
of the night.  I explained to her that I did cat rescue and I always
carried
these items, and gave her my card in case they ran into any more kitties
in
need at any of the other shooting locations.
We had to wait to come back and get the kitty until we had the property
owner's permission.   So Sunday night we went back and obtained
permission.
Seems the property owner also has an unaltered male cat on the property
named Hot Sauce.  We shared our dinner with Hot Sauce and found him to
be
a very lovable kitty.  We got permission from the property owner to have
him
neutered and then return him.  We also found that our new kitty (we
named
her Taylor)  had 3 adorable little kittens.  One brown tabby and white,
one
blue tabby, and one blue tabby and white.  They are all safe and warm
and
fed at one of our great foster parents' homes now.

I have taken lots of pics of the kittens now, some are posted at
http://www.rescuties.net

Taylor is combo neg.  The kittens are too young to be tested.

Kelley

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help with the Friday Night Lights' kittens medical needs!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/the-friday-night-lights-kittens

Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them
first
as long as you leave me alone.
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[Felvtalk] Gracie (was RE: worried Mom seeking info)

2008-09-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Janine, I'm so sorry Gracie had to leave you.  I'm so glad you were
there to help her go in peace and comfort.  Gentle Bridge vibes to this
feisty old girl.

Diane R.

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I joined this list a few yrs ago because I am involved in rescue and
wanted better answers to the leukemia questions I had.  This email is a
good time to jump in and tell you all about the matriarch of a large
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Re: [Felvtalk] Michelle's Patches is an angel

2008-09-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oh, damn.  Gentlest of Bridge journeys to Patches, and hugs to Michelle
and everyone who loved Patches.

Diane R. 

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 I'm sorry to let you all know, Michelle's Patches passed away 
yesterday at the hospital, her body just wasn't physically strong enough

to handle anymore treatment ... they are devastated, please say a prayer

for them.

-- 

Belinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] New Kitten is FeLV+

2008-09-09 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Jody --

Sounds like you're doing great already with your others!  Brava!  Since
you're experience in FeLV, you've probably already heard some of the
suggestions.  You're already doing good food -- can't hurt to supplement
with L-lysine, the pure kind from the health food store rather than the
human kind from the drugstore which has kitty-hostile additives.  And
of course, keep stress as minimal as possible.  Others will have more
suggestions, I know.

Oh, and of course you'll probably want to retest in a while, just in
case.  

Best of luck with your new little girl, and the two others.  What are
all their names?

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] New Kitten is FeLV+

Last week, we took in a darling tortie/calico kitten who'd been
abandoned at my workplace.  At her first vet check today, we got the
results that she's FeLV+.  We have two other cats that are positive.

I would appreciate any tips on how to get this little girl off to the
healthiest start possible.  We're feeding high protein kitten foods
already.  Our other cats are doing well at ages 4 and 1 year, but we'd
love to learn anything we can to help our newest 'patient' stay healthy
and happy.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

2008-09-08 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Here are wishes and vibes that Patches rallies once again, and hugs to
her and to Michelle.

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Can you please pray for Michelle's Patches

Hi again all,
Strangely I was just wondering this a.m. how Michelle's Patches was
doing, and thinking I must email her, and then when I came into work,
there was the email from her (below). (For those who don't know
Michelle, she was a tireless, dedicated source of knowledge and support
on the list for many years).
Thanks for your prayers for Patches.
Kerry M.


Hi, Kerry. Can I bother you to ask the list for prayers again? Patches
had been doing a lot better for a couple of weeks-- her hematocrit was
going up (and maybe still is-- she looks quite pink), she gained weight,
she was getting more active and had started eating some on her own
again. But the last few days she has looked worse than when we brought
her to the hospital with the pancreatitis. She had the strongest chemo
drug 8 days ago, so we thought it was that, but she does not seem to be
improving. She lays in one spot all day and only gets up to use the
litterbox, and looks weak when she does. She seems nauseous too. She has
gained a lot of weight and we think the vets were telling us to feed her
too much through her tube, and we are wondering if her pancreatitis has
been aggravated by this. Or, of course, the cancer could be back. We are
planning on taking her to the hospital tomorrow afternoon when her
internist is in, to see if they can ultrasound her and if she! needs IV
fluids.  Prayers always seem to help, though, so I thought I would ask.

thanks as always, and I hope you and yours are ok,
Michelle


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Re: [Felvtalk] Natasha

2008-09-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Here's hoping Natasha bounces back from her URI with no lasting harm
done.  Welcome and Gesundheit, Natasha! 

Diane R.

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Hi all we got in a new beautiful white girl named Natasha and she is
having a really tough time with a URI.She is fiv/felv+ and a sweet
little girl.Please add her to your good thoughts and prayers.Thank you
much.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Good News!

2008-09-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
This is great, Sue!  Happy hugs to you and Miracle Buzz!

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Good News!

Some of you may remember my FeLV+ kitty, Buzz, had  anemia a couple of
months ago.  His red blood cell level was down to 8% and the replacement
vet gave him two days to live.  Because of the advise of people from
this list I demanded he be put on Doxycycline, and when my regular vet
came back he also put him on prednesone.  His blood levels have been
steadily rising since then.  He finished the Doxy and two weeks ago we
started to back off on the Prednesone when his red blood level was at
32%.  He was just tested again and his level is at 
38%.  I feel like he is a miracle kitty!  We hear so many of the very
sad stories on this list that it feels good to report something happy.
Thank you all so much for your help and support.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight

2008-08-26 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry, Kim.  I know it's not a lot of consolation that you had
him with you for 6-1/2 years when a healthy cat can live 3 times that
long, but it *is* an extraordinary age for a FeLV+ kitty and both of you
fought the good fight and loved each other fiercely for all that time.
Don't try to second-guess yourself about whether it was the exact time
to help him end it -- I think one of the other members of this list
would say better a day too early than a second too late.

When you are talking to him, as Marylyn has suggested, invite him to
visit you.  So many people have experienced what they feel is a visit
from their departed pets -- maybe you're in bed and it feels like
somekitty is walking on the bed, but when you look nobody's there, that
kind of thing.  And if you ever move, specifically invite Cole to the
new place too. 

And finally, once it stops hurting quite so badly, be open to the idea
of finding another kitty, not to take his place but to fill the void.
He won't want you to be lonely, and so many times people have said they
felt that their departed kitty has led them right to a new one to love.


Hugs to you and to Cole in his new home, where he is undoubtedly
swapping great mommy stories with our kitties there.

Diane R.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight


It is with great sadness that I have to say that my Cole has lost his
fight. The last 2 weeks he has been recieving epogen shots two times a
week and we found out today that the shots have not improved his anemia.
He in fact got worse and his hemoglobin went down to 9% from 11% 2 weeks
ago. He has also lost an addition 1lb in 3 days because he would not
eat. It was the hardest thing ever to have to make the call in putting
him to sleep or not, but he has been so lethargic and down the last
couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good enough shape to even
attempt any other treatment at this point. I wish I would have caught
this earlier and maybe treatment would have been better. He had been
living with Feline Leukemia since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so
at least I was blessed with that time with him. Right now the hardest
thing is to come home and not have him waiting at the door for me. I am
praying that I made the right decision and didnt jump the gun on putting
him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I knew that I was
prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are having a
special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that having
Cole for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was
my rock and was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to
be there for him. Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it
helped me make it through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you
Cole.
Kim
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Re: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?

2008-08-21 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Hi, Adrienne.  I'm sorry Emma is ill.  There are lots of people on this list 
who will give you some really good pointers.  

I don't have any personal experience with chemo for FeLV+ cats; by the time my 
Patches turned up on my doorstep and was diagnosed, it was really too late to 
consider chemo.  I do know that cats tolerate it much better than humans do.  

I think one of the questions the others here will ask is, what symptoms was 
Emma displaying that resulted in the vet visit where the lymphoma was diagnosed 
-- in other words, was she acting sick, and how has her health been generally 
since the FeLV diagnosis?  And about that -- although the presence of the 
lymphoma points toward the FeLV diagnosis being accurate, is it 100% certain 
that she really does have FeLV?  False negatives and false positives aren't 
uncommon with these tests, especially if only the in-office test was given.  
This doesn't, of course, affect the lymphoma itself, just Emma's general 
hardiness.  Do you feel that she is suffering now?

Also, how have you been treating the FeLV? Supplements, diet, etc.? 

I hope you and Emma still have some good time left together.  Hugs.

Diane R.

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Subject: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?

Hello.  My beloved Emma is 5 ½ years old.  Two years ago she was diagnosed
as being FeLV+.

I don't know how this happened.  I raised Emma and her sisters from the time
they were about two days old.

Her sisters are negative, as are my other cats, despite the fact that they
have all lived together as indoor only cats, and have groomed each other,
and shared bowls, litter boxes, and dishes.  Emma tested negative for FeLV
as a kitten.  She has never been outside except in a carrier. 

Yesterday, I got the news that Emma has Lymphoma.  I've started her on
Prednisone, and the doctor is recommending chemotherapy.  The doctor
estimated an 8 to 10 month survival rate for cats with Lymphoma who go
through chemotherapy, but couldn't give me any idea of the prognosis for a
cat who has FeLV.

 

Any opinion about chemotherapy for an FeLV+ cat with Lymphoma?  I'm
heartbroken and I don't want to do anything to prolong my beautiful girl's
suffering.

 

Thank you.

Adrienne

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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Laura, I am so sorry for both your losses.  Hugs to you and gentle
Bridge journey to Duncan and your other kitty -- what was his/her name?

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from
a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was
still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as
if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then
to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was
driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought
Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella
and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr
Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of
the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any
symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who
lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the
vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good
past couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Patches update

2008-08-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Here's vibes that Patches rallies through this.  She has so much going
on, poor baby.  Hugs to her and to Michelle.

Diane R. 

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Please pray for Patches again. Her PCV went down from 20 to 18, and
she's not eating much on her own anymore. Her liver values were normal,
though. She did get some chemo yesterday. I am not sure why she is
getting worse. They think the cancer is  in remission. Maybe it is the
anemia. Maybe her pancreatitis is acting up. I am not sure. Prayers
helped before, though

thanks,
Michelle




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Re: [Felvtalk] Seizures continued

2008-08-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Caroline,

Bless you for caring so much about this little problem child!  While I
hate to hope that an animal was abused, I do hope that his problems,
whatever they turn out to be, ARE finite and treatable.  You know, if
these folks are really old, maybe they just aren't up on current
thinking on kitty behavior.  My housemate's mother got a cat and
couldn't really accept that this particular cat's personality was not to
be a cuddler, and she steadfastly tried to *train* the cat to be a
cuddler and then resented it when she wasn't.  She wasn't cruel to her
or anything, but I think Kitty was much happier later when living with
my housemate, who respected her right to express affection on her own
terms.  Maybe these adoptive folks just couldn't cope with this boy's
little quirks and tried to punish him as if he were a whispers dog or
something.  I guess I'm glad, at least, that they realized they were in
over their heads and relinquished him rather than some other
alternatives.  If it turns out that he's not irreversibly sick, I'm sure
you'll be able to resocialize him (possibly with a little pharmaceutical
help); maybe when he's calmed down and his poor toes don't hurt so much,
he'll rediscover playing.  I hope so.  (We socialized a near-feral who'd
been on her own in her early months, and we didn't know how we'd ever
teach her the concept of play -- but she learned, and is probably the
most playful of the bunch.)

Best of luck to you and the little guy!

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Re: [Felvtalk] I think my girl kitty is pregnant...will the kittensbeFeLV+??

2008-08-12 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Jennifer, I know how bad you must be feeling now, and I know what it's
like to not have enough money to go around, and I know what it's like to
make a bad judgment call.  Obviously you should have made it a priority
to have *somebody* fixed since unfixed cats living together WILL do what
comes naturally.  Preferably both of them should have been fixed, but I
know Ash's FeLV status is a factor.  I join in the plea to have Isobel
aborted if at all possible.  Even if by some miracle the kittens were
born healthy, there are so, so many heartbreakingly unwanted kittens in
the world already.  And the thing is, if they're born, sick or well
they're your responsibility.  If you can't personally keep them, you
will be faced with the same agonizing decision as you are now, except
that they will be warm little creatures you can hold in your hand and it
will be much, much worse.  Sorry you're going through this.  Hugs to you
and Isobel and Ash.

Diane R.

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kittensbeFeLV+??

Exactly, well put.   Whenever someone asks me for help with a cat or
kitten
saying otherwise they'll have to take them to a AS/AC, I tell them that
if
they care about the cat at all they should take it to the vet to be put
down
themselves rather than subject them to such a fearful, cold
endpeople so
often prefer to spare themselves pain at the expense of the animal.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 And the life they lead before they are killed is rough.  They are
 surrounded by awful noises, cold bars..and may or may not have a
 gentle death at the hands of people who cannot afford to love them.
 On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Heather wrote:

  Even with negative kittens, unless you find a strictly no kill
  shelter
  and keep them yourself until they are 8 weeks, they'd probably be
  put to
  sleep anyway without even being tested...and even a no-kill shelter
  will
  euthanize the positives.
 
  I know it sounds sad to terminate but unless you will keep them
  yourself...the one thing sadder than the idea of termination is if
  you go to
  your local AS/AC agency and see all of the sweet, friendly,
  beautiful Mom 
  full litters of kittens who are being put to sleep--positive or
  negative.
 
  On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  I don't know the groups in Southern New Jersey (although I lived
  there many years ago) - but some group will gladly help you with
  testing and s/n.  Yes, the kittens would most likely be euthanized
at
  a shelter, if FELV +.Good chance they'd be euthanized even if
  negative.
  BTW, some vets will spay a pregnant cat, depending on how far
along,
  some won't.  Let us know what the test results are!
 
  Best of luck,
 
  Gloria
 
 
 
  On Aug 11, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Jennifer wrote:
 
  and the only possible father is my FeLV+ kitty, Ash.  Isobel is
  showing signs of pregnancy (hard and protruding tummy as well as
  pointy nipples).  She's going this Thursday to get tested for
  FeLV.  My question is, if she tests negative (which my guess is
she
  won't being that her and Ash mated), will the kittens be FeLV+
  because their father is FeLV+?  Also, if Isobel is pregnant and
she
  is FeLV+, does that automatically mean the kittens will be too?  I
  feel so horrible about not getting her fixed sooner, but my money
  is tight and I have to save up just to take them to the vet.  If
  she is pregnant, I can't keep the kittens as we already have three
  and my boyfriend is allergic and says no way to any more cats in
  the house, which I understand.  If I take them to a shelter and
  they're positive, won't they put them to sleep right away?  I
don't
  want that to happen.  I live in Southern New Jersey...anyone want
  more kittens??  When I take her to the
  vet this week, I'll have them confirm her pregnancy.
 
  Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their
voice.
 ~ loving mama to ~
 Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
 Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
 Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz might be sick

2008-07-25 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sally, here's hoping the vet finds nothing major.  I know you'll be
going crazy until you find out.  Hugs to you all.

Diane R. 

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz might be sick

Thanks, Sally,
Buzz seems to be breathing fast, but I am not sure how he usually
breaths.  Like you said, panic mode.  My husband is taking him at 10:40
am today because I am working.  I want to be there so badly!  
Sue
 Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
HI Sue

I am sorry Buzz is not well. I am not sure what to tell you to ask the
vet.
There are so many things I should have asked, but i was clueless.
Sometimes
I think I tortured Junior needlessly because I was in panic mode.  Be
calm
and listen his life depends on you. You can check his gums to see if
they
are pale. Anemia is common. As my vet told me b4 Junior was dx with
Felv,
hemabartenella can be caused by just one flea. It is treatable. How is
his
breathing?

I will keep you and Buzz in my prayers.

Hugs

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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2008-07-25 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Unfortunately, not all vets are current on the latest thinking on such
death sentence diseases as FeLV and FIV.  It's so important to find
one who is knowledgeable and willing to work with a kitty through its
various issues.  There are many knowledgeable and supportive vets out
there, and often the ones who are not knowledgeable welcome any info you
can give them, so don't be discouraged.  If this vet persists in her he
must be suffering viewpoint it might be good to shop around.  
 
Good luck with your ferals.  In case you haven't come across it,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a wonderful resource.  Some of the members
can be a little hard-line about some things, but the files section of
the web page is a treasure trove of good info on trapping, vetting and
other aspects of feral caretaking.  Many of them are working with little
or no money themselves.  The co-listmom, Gesine, gives great
down-to-earth advice.
 
Diane R.



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Thanx Tonya,

 

I have been on the internet to many sites that have been very
informative and am going to try to find help with the colony around my
home.

This was a new vet I went to and am now going to ask more questions.
Being new to felv i didnt know much. I took her word that he was
suffering and would only get worse.

 

It's a little hard for me at this time because i lost my job so finances
are low. But I am trying to find help so this doesnt happen again.

 

The feralcat group at yahoo has been very helpful about tnr if i can
find a vet who will help me, since i am not working and have the time to
do it.

 

Again Thanx so much for your support.

 

Sharon



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Be sure to really check around.  My sister is in North Carolina
and they have TNR program that cost only like 15 dollars per spay and
neuter.  Good luck.
t

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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic

2008-07-25 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry, Sue.  I know cats have come back from bouts of anemia but
you do have to weigh the options.  Hope he feels better in the meantime
with the shot.

Diane R. 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic

Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 30.  She gave
him a steriod shot.  She says we could choose to give him a transfusion
but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive.  He also has
a bad heart murmer.  Right now I am just trying to by time to look into
optiions.  I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of
painful procedures just to buy a month or two.  They just don't
understand why you are doing it to them.  Why can't cats take iron pills
like anemic humans do?  So many questions...
Thanks,
Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey Please add to the CLS :(

2008-07-24 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oh, damn.  Condolences to all of you, and a gentle journey to Hennessey.
 
Diane R.



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I am so saddened to say that Hennessey took a turn for the worse and he
had to be helped over to the bridge.Thank you for all your kind words.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hennessey

2008-07-23 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Vibes coming.  Hennessey is in good hands but there's only so much even
good hands can do.  Hope he pulls through.
 
Diane R.



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Hi all we are in need of your good thoughts and prayers again.Sweet big
orange boy Hennessey may be in liver failure.Dr. Jen is doing all she
can for him. Thank you all.

Sherry



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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Daisy's Babies

2008-07-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sharyl --  Best wishes to you and to all these babies.  Whatever future
they have is already brighter with you taking such good care of them.
 
About Daisy, I guess I would say that if in the future she looks like
she's actively sick, bring her in and, if you can't afford to keep her,
do the kind thing so she's not out there suffering.  I'm not of that
disposition either but no matter what, they shouldn't suffer.
 
Diane R.



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I have been feeding a dumpster colony of kitties for several months with
the goal of doing TNR (trap/neuter/release) for those that I can not
rescue.  Of the 3 kittens I rescued 2, Sissy and Rocket, were FeLV+.
They are about 9 months old now and are doing well.  Both have test
positive twice.

Their sister, Daisy, had a litter before I was able to TNR her.  The
kittens were approx. 4 weeks old when I got them.  I took them because 1
had both eyes stuck shut and 1 had 1 eye stuck shut.  The next day I was
finally able to trap Daisy using a kitten as bait in the carrier.
Daisy has since been spayed and released.  The babies have received one
worm treatment, got terramycin salve in their eyes for a week, and have
lysine added to their food.  

 

It appears that Mattie will be blind.  She is the biggest of the 4 and
very feisty.   I had her tested and the vet said she was very, very,
very FeLV+.  No idea what 3 verys mean.  CJ may have some limited vision
in her bad eye.  Bright Eyes and Houdini (escaped from the dog crate
twice now) seem healthy.   I am adding L-Lysine and Mega C Plus to their
food.  I am looking for advice on what else I can do to help them throw
off this virus.  

 

They will each be tested when I have them spayed.   Sissy and Rocket
were several months old when I rescued them.  Didn't know if starting
treatments earlier would improve the odds that they could beat this.
Any advise on how to proceed with now 5 1/2 wk old kittens would be
appreciated.

 

By the way Stormie, same colony but different Mom from Sissy, Rocket and
Daisy, tested negative.  I did not have Daisy tested.  I knew I could
not afford to keep her if she was positive and simply do not have the
disposition to have a cat PTS simply because she is positive.   At least
she will not have any more litters.  There is one more sister, Mae, that
I have been trying to trap for TNR.

Sharyl Sissy, Rocket and the babies



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[Felvtalk] Smokey (was RE: Melina Please add to the CLS :(

2008-07-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Kathryn, I am so sorry about Smokey.  I know how much you wanted him to
make it.  Don't reproach yourself too much (I know you have to a little,
20-20 hindsight is  what we humans do best) for causing him pain trying
to take care of the mouth sores.  You were doing what you could to be a
good mom, and we often have to do things they don't like for their own
good.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Smokey.  I know he knows how much you
loved him, and maybe he will guide you to another kitty who needs you.
Brava for wanting to find one who's been passed by, I always worry about
the older ones who aren't kitten-cute anymore.  Hugs.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :(


I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey
cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us
that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was
suffering. She said  there wasn't anything that could be done. I just
couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better
and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said
no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in
great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little
mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him.
I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores
doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me,
I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. 

After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and
adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by,
maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when
I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all
were a great source of information and support.

Sincerely,
Kathryn




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Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda

2008-07-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Tonya -- re the cosequin, we've been giving it to our senior guy Luc for
several months now -- we get the capsules and sprinkle it into his wet
food.  He goes for the juicy part first so we try to get the cosequin
powder mostly into the juice.  He sucks it right up. ;-)
 
Diane R.



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Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value?  Just very low for a CRF
kitty with a Crea of 2.6.  You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's
web site.  

www.felineCRF.org

 

SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration.  Weekly
fluids probably don't help much on that score.  Usually kitties are no
longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to
the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment
plan.  All of Bob's other values look good.  The best food for a CRF
kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat.

Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies

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Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM


Hey Belinda,
 
This has been lost in cyberspace several times.  I'm hoping it
comes through with the new server.
 
Bob's numbers:
 
creatnine 2.5
bun 16
phosphorus 4.5
potassium 4.1
HCT 37.9
 
Other numbers that were noted as high were:
 
urea nitrogen 40
cholesterol 269
amylase 1440
 
we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a
better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried
that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week.
 
and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc
2.5 mg daily
 
plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it
actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so
small on the capsules and i can't find the box.  i have a hard time
getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much
regularity.)
 
how does all of this sound to you.
 
I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the
vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about
that?
tonya

Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN, 
Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the
important ones that 
tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from
your vet, they 
can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work
results, you paid for 
them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can
tell you what my 
vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has
his blood 
pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for
getting high blood 
pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness
if not caught 
and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone
blind been put on 
amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight.
The retinas 
detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high
can vary for each 
individual cat but you really don't want the blood
pressure higher than 
170 or 180 at the vets.

Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having
the episode 
that I took him in for right away, thankfully his
retinas never detached 
but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching
and he kind of 
looked spacey and fell over.

Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get
fluids?

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RE: Smokey update

2008-07-07 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Any responsible vet will treat an FeLV+ kitty.  One of the first things
to know about this virus is that it isn't nearly as casually contagious
as was first thought, though it is more readily transmittable than the
other bugaboo, FIV.  Unless the cat is in a position to bite other cats,
or is sharing food and water with them, which is not likely in an
emergency-vet situation, it's not readily transmittable.  And as some on
this list will attest, from letting their + kitties mingle with their
negatives, even the food and drink isn't necessarily a problem.  My
Patches escaped his temporary confinement -- he was a 3 a.m. rescue, we
lured him into our back hall, fed him, left him there blocked from the
rest of the house by a 7-foot screen door, and went back to sleep...at 6
a.m. woke up to find him in our FRONT porch room 50 feet from where we'd
left him, having a conversation with one of our other cats!  He'd had 3
hours to get over or under that door, wander the length of the house and
interact with all the cats, and partake of their grazing crunchies and
water.  He died 6 weeks later, but none of the others have shown a
single symptom.  If he had lived, we would have had the others
vaccinated as an extra precaution, and let him hang out with them.  As
it was, we had to keep him in a room by himself while he was sick, and
he really wanted to join us all, he was such a sociable little guy.
That was really hard.  
 
At least we were able to give him some comfort -- when he came, he had
such huge, severe mats of fur on his sides that they looked like wings.
They must have hurt him horribly, he wouldn't let you touch him past his
shoulders.  He came to us over a 4th of July long weekend so it was a
few days before we could get him to the vet, and we were able to get
some of the matting off him by me distracting him and my housemate
snipping at the mats practically one strand of fur at a time.  (A few
months later, cleaning behind some furniture in the porch room, we found
another piece of wing that he must have rubbed off himself on the
furniture.)  He was also filthy, and we would pet him with damp cloths
wherever he'd let us, and he cleaned up into a lovely Turkish Van.
Thankfully, our vets, who don't usually do extensive grooming like this,
took pity and were able to clean him up and deflea him during his exam.
After that he loved being petted all over.  We would gladly have
kneecapped whoever left him out on his own to get into this condition,
even if he had been FeLV negative!  We had already socialized a
near-feral cat, and it had taken months.  This guy was immediately
friendly and had obviously been someone's pet.  
 
Oops, I digressed a little there!   But the point is that no
knowledgeable vet would refuse to treat a cat on the basis of its FeLV
status.  It's so good that your regular vet is being so supportive.  It
can be really disheartening to have to look for a new vet on top of
everything else.  
 
Diane R.



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Hi Everyone,

I had a real scare with Smokey over the weekend. I thought I was loosing
him and I didn't even know if an emergency vet would treat him because
of his disease. Do they?The good news is that I didn't need to find out,
he's snapped out of it. I've been treating him for an upper respiratory
problem and an eye infection. He also has ulcers on his mouth, poor boy!
The little cat is a wreck, but he appears to have turned the corner. As
of today, his mouth is healing, his eye isn't running and his breathing
is normal. I do not want to get my hopes up too much, but I sure do want
the little boy to stay with me. I can't believe how many tears I have
shed for a little guy I've known less then two weeks. He's just so
sweet.

Is it normal for them to snap back so quickly? Is this a good sign that
he might live a while? My vet says that he could live a few years and
has even emailed me outdoor enclosures to look at. He was a stray and
longs to be outside, so it would be nice for him to go outside once in a
while.

I really appreciate this site. It's wonderful to hear from people who
know about this and also who understand. As with my horse, (he's a
rescue, too) most of my friends think I am nuts for taking on this
little cat. 

Thank you for listening,
Kathryn


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I didn't get your original email Kathryn.  Welcome to ghe group.  Is
your cat showing any symptoms? How old is he?
tonya

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You've come to a great place for information and support.
Others have much more experience with these babies, but I can tell you
that diet and stress control are paramount.  If you can give your new
guy 

RE: Prayers needed AGAIN

2008-07-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I hope Melina is hanging in there this morning and is feeling better.
Big vibes to her.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Prayers needed AGAIN


Please can we get ALL the prayers and good thoughts for beautiful sweet
Melina.Dr.Jen took her home with her to try and get her feeling
better.She thinks that she may becoming septic.So she has started her on
Doxy and Prednisone and will do a work up on her tomorrow.Please pray
for this baby girl that won my heart the moment I saw her.I know in the
long run the aweful felv will win. :( But maybe she can win just this
one more time.
THank you all so much
Sherry


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RE: Add to CLS - Muffin - (non FELV)

2008-07-01 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry, Kelley.  Gentle Bridge vibes to Muffin.  What is her
(his?) story?  I always think it's good to tell their stories when they
pass.
 
Diane R.



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Could you please add my Muffin to the CLS?  

Thanks,

Kelley

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RE: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08

2008-06-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Heather, I'm so sorry for all your losses, and Jann's and Kate's.  I'm
sure all these sweet babies are at the Bridge bragging up all the VERY
special people who cared so much about them.  I don't know of anybody on
this list who hasn't at some point beaten themselves up about what they
shoulda coulda done, but sometimes things just are what they are and you
do what you can.  Sometimes it turns out that it wasn't enough, because
nothing short of divine intervention WOULD have been enough, but you
know you made a world of difference to somekitty just by giving them a
warm, loving place to be at the end.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Sissy has joined Hobbs, 6/27/08


With much sadness, I wanted to share with everyone that Hobbs' sister,
Sissy, has  now joined him.   The loss of her dear brother affected
Sissy very much, which was to be expected as they were quite bonded, and
she began to take a similar road as Hobbs did in his final days.   Their
people-Mom Jann had wanted to avoid Sissy suffering as she felt Hobbs
did, and had planned for her to cross this morning, though unfortunately
they had a very bad night, and stayed the night in the garage together,
where Sissy had actually been spending a lot of time lately.
 
I apologize that I haven't been active since the outpouring of support
from you all regarding the loss of Hobbs, unfortunately the following
week we lost another FELV+ rescue, Shennanigans (whom a friend in
another city had given a home to for these last 3 months), and also a
dear Torti rescue named Freckles who we found living in a woman's yard,
very ill and with an old  very uncomfortable injury.   She was such a
sweet, beautiful kitty and her spirit really touched us all very much, a
rescue was assisting with her medical care but force feeding with her
injury was very stressful for Freckles, and her caregiver, and given the
severity of her illness (which prevented her from being a candidate for
surgery for her long-healed injury, unless she made a remarkable
recovery), they felt it was best to release her from her pain.   I found
out after the fact and have struggled with it ever since as I feel I
didn't do enough for her, soon enough, and wonder if things could have
been different.
 
Shennanigans was a beautiful little charcoal grey long haired kitty whom
we found outside at my vets, likely dumped around Febuary.   She
appeared to be only 4 - 5 months old, though we aren't really sure.
The woman who she went to live with said her vet thought she might be
older than we initially thought, she wasn't spayed when we found her and
I still think she was a pretty young kitty.   Her initial FELV test was
a weak+.
 
I really should have posted about Shennanigans here but was fairly numb
with all of the loss.I was not the direct caregiver, but the
rescuer, for these kitties so can only imagine what my friends have been
going through as they loved them all dearly.   Even if it was only for 3
months, I know Shennanigans spent those last 3 months sleeping in a bed
with someone, though she was afraid of the other cats.
 
What Jann did for Hobbs and Sissy, giving two little FELV+ kittens a
home which is so hard to find, I will be eternally grateful for.I
hate the pain it's caused her, yet she is such a giving soul and does
nothing but thank me for entrusting her with their care and for the
precious time she had with them over this last year.   While I am always
full of doubts as to how I handle things, I am so confident in the
wonderful, loving happy lives they had with Jann, no matter how short.
I just hate how painful the end has been.   She still has their
Mother, a double+ kitty I found at my new job with an eye  ear
injury, she has outlived all of her kittens--I found them all last April
under a trailer behind my new office.   I had moved accross campus after
almost 20 years in the same building, and kept looking for a sign from
God as to whether I should make the move...when I found Mom  her
babies, and their testing status, I knew had anyone else found them
they'd most likely have immediately been put down, and that they were
the sign I was looking for.
 
We also have a new Leuk+ rescue, this poor kitty had scabies so bad his
eyes were crusted shut (and still are quite infected), a friend made a
heroic rescue standing on a truck and plucking this kitty out of a tree,
and it hit hard when we found out he was leuk+.   We are still looking
for a home for him, and he is still boarding at the vets being treated
(3 weeks now), but we are glad we've had the chance to give him the
chance he deserves to feel good love and care.
 
Well I am sorry as this must be a very sad update...but I know you all
will keep Sissy, Hobbs, Shennangans, and Jann  Kate the loving humans
they've left behind, in your close thoughts and prayers.   

RE: Little Man Please add to CLS :(

2008-06-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry Little Man didn't make it, Sherry.  Hugs to Dr. Jen and all
of you.  Little Man has gone through orientation by now and is telling
all his new friends about his wonderful old friends.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Little Man Please add to CLS :(


Poor Dr. Jen had to let our Little Man go at 5 am this morning.She wrote
us all the legacy of his story.He was an awesome boy.It was a very nice
legacy.
Sherry


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RE: Kissinger and Zin Please add to the CLS :( :(

2008-05-30 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Kissinger and Zin will surely find lots of old friends at the Bridge.
:-(  Condolences to Zin's hoomin and all at Sids.
 
Diane R.



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I found out tonight sweet beautiful Zin lost his battle.He was adopted
by one of the volunteers and she told me tonight he left us.He was a
flame point beautiful boy.
Also we lost sweet Kissinger he had such a gentle way about him. This
has been a sad week for us at Sids.
Sherry


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RE: Sebastian Please add to the CLS :(

2008-05-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sorry, Sherry and all.  Gentle Bridge vibes to Sebastian.
 
Diane R.



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I am saddened to say that we lost another one of our sanctuary babies.
Sebastian was a sweet gray and white boy.On monday he was talking to me
alot,maybe he was letting me know that he is leaving. :( I will miss
that great boy.
Sherry


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RE: Hobbs, May 4, 2008

2008-05-05 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Heather, I am so very sorry to hear of Hobbs' passing.  Blessings to you
and Jann for caring so deeply for him, and thank you for sharing his
story.  Hugs to you all and skritches to Sissy.
 
Diane R.



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I am very sad to let everyone know that Hobbs passed away Sunday
afternoon at 12:48 p.m.
 
His caregiver, Jann, woke up Saturday and dashed around to replenish
suppliesbut when she got home he was clearly declining.   She felt
he was suffering and made the decision on Sunday to cease force feedings
as he was obviously in pain.   She did keep his mouth moist and tried to
keep him warm, mostly just allowing him to do whatever he wanted or
could.   She took a sleeping bag in her spare room  slept with him
Saturday night, and spent Sunday morning in her yard with him in the
sun, petting and consoling him.
 
We had been trying to find a vet to come to her home, but he ended up
passing on his own...which we are grateful for, though she fears she
allowed him to suffer.   I think had we not tried the treatments of this
last week, we would be wondering if he might have had more time.
 
Please add Hobbs to the Candle Light Service, and keep Jann and his
sister Sissy in your prayers, they were two little peas in a pod, as
Jann would say.  Hobbs was a year old.   I am very thankful to Jann for
giving Hobbs  Sissy the chance to live the life of love that all
kitties deserve, regardless of what is in their blood.   We found them
when, after 20 years in the same building on a busy university campus, I
moved to a new office on the other side of campus.   I was very nervous
about this decision and kept telling everyone I wished that I'd get a
sign from God.   Upon moving, I had 2 injured feral cats colonies in
the first two weeks, and also was approached by a new coworker regarding
an injured cat, who was Hobbs' and Sissy's Mom.   She had an eye  ear
injury and my heart immediately told me I had to help her; we did not
know she was a nursing Mom.   I had been told she was declawed, and that
they'd caught her 6 months prior along with a kitten of hers (negative),
she also was not injured then.   Why she was put back out unspayed, I
will never know unless it was because they thought she might have more
kittens.   When I trapped her, she was not declawed but was positive for
FELV, FIV, and a nursing Mom.   I really feel that Mama, Sissy, Hobbs,
Mickey  Sebastian were that sign from God I'd sought, as they would
either still be out there reproducing and likely ill, or would have been
put down due to testing positive for Leukemia had someone else trapped
them.
 
I set out to find/trap the kittens and found out that 2 ladies had
already found 2 of them, I had to give them the news of the Mom' testing
status.  Both of their kittens were weak double+, but did clear the FIV.
Initially Sissy and Hobbs were only FIV+, but they retested positive for
Leukemia a month later, confirmed by retesting twice.
 
I was so upset by all that this Mom kitty had been through, and knowing
that much of it--including this litter of kittens with leukemia, could
have been prevented had she been spayed...there was no way I could not
give them their chance.   However, being in a small condo with 10 cats,
I didn't even have room for another negative cat.   It is Hobbs'
caretaker, Jann, who gave Hobbs and Sissy the chance for life and love
that they deserved, and I know they could not have had a more loving
home.   I am very grateful for Jann, and know she is hurting badly right
now.
 
I want to thank everyone for their kindness, support, advice and
prayers.   Hobbs was a very special boy, when I first took them to
Jann's as kittens she said she felt an instant connection, she has
always told me this.   His illness and loss has been very hard for her
and she has been very appreciative of the support.   Thank you all for
giving these special kitties love for the time that they have here, it
means everything in the world for them.
 
In Loving Memory of Hobbs,
 
Heather

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RE: Hobbs, May 4, 2008

2008-05-05 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Laurie, condolences to your friends as well.  What a hard weekend this
has been.
 
Diane R.



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I am so sorry. Three friends also lost cats this weekend...
2 Saturday night and one early this morning.
Prayers for all those kitty angels and their grieving
caretakers/guardians.
L

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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Hobbs, May 4, 2008

I am very sad to let everyone know that Hobbs passed away Sunday
afternoon at 12:48 p.m.
 
His caregiver, Jann, woke up Saturday and dashed around to
replenish suppliesbut when she got home he was clearly declining.
She felt he was suffering and made the decision on Sunday to cease force
feedings as he was obviously in pain.   She did keep his mouth moist and
tried to keep him warm, mostly just allowing him to do whatever he
wanted or could.   She took a sleeping bag in her spare room  slept
with him Saturday night, and spent Sunday morning in her yard with him
in the sun, petting and consoling him.
 
We had been trying to find a vet to come to her home, but he
ended up passing on his own...which we are grateful for, though she
fears she allowed him to suffer.   I think had we not tried the
treatments of this last week, we would be wondering if he might have had
more time.
 
Please add Hobbs to the Candle Light Service, and keep Jann and
his sister Sissy in your prayers, they were two little peas in a pod,
as Jann would say.  Hobbs was a year old.   I am very thankful to Jann
for giving Hobbs  Sissy the chance to live the life of love that all
kitties deserve, regardless of what is in their blood.   We found them
when, after 20 years in the same building on a busy university campus, I
moved to a new office on the other side of campus.   I was very nervous
about this decision and kept telling everyone I wished that I'd get a
sign from God.   Upon moving, I had 2 injured feral cats colonies in
the first two weeks, and also was approached by a new coworker regarding
an injured cat, who was Hobbs' and Sissy's Mom.   She had an eye  ear
injury and my heart immediately told me I had to help her; we did not
know she was a nursing Mom.   I had been told she was declawed, and that
they'd caught her 6 months prior along with a kitten of hers (negative),
she also was not injured then.   Why she was put back out unspayed, I
will never know unless it was because they thought she might have more
kittens.   When I trapped her, she was not declawed but was positive for
FELV, FIV, and a nursing Mom.   I really feel that Mama, Sissy, Hobbs,
Mickey  Sebastian were that sign from God I'd sought, as they would
either still be out there reproducing and likely ill, or would have been
put down due to testing positive for Leukemia had someone else trapped
them.
 
I set out to find/trap the kittens and found out that 2 ladies
had already found 2 of them, I had to give them the news of the Mom'
testing status.  Both of their kittens were weak double+, but did clear
the FIV.   Initially Sissy and Hobbs were only FIV+, but they retested
positive for Leukemia a month later, confirmed by retesting twice.
 
I was so upset by all that this Mom kitty had been through, and
knowing that much of it--including this litter of kittens with leukemia,
could have been prevented had she been spayed...there was no way I could
not give them their chance.   However, being in a small condo with 10
cats, I didn't even have room for another negative cat.   It is Hobbs'
caretaker, Jann, who gave Hobbs and Sissy the chance for life and love
that they deserved, and I know they could not have had a more loving
home.   I am very grateful for Jann, and know she is hurting badly right
now.
 
I want to thank everyone for their kindness, support, advice and
prayers.   Hobbs was a very special boy, when I first took them to
Jann's as kittens she said she felt an instant connection, she has
always told me this.   His illness and loss has been very hard for her
and she has been very appreciative of the support.   Thank you all for
giving these special kitties love for the time that they have here, it
means everything in the world for them.
 
In Loving Memory of Hobbs,
 
Heather


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RE: Update on Hobbs

2008-05-01 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Here are big hang in there vibes to Hobbs and his human, and some hugs
and skritches thrown in too!  I know we're all rooting for him.
 
Thanks for the update, Heather.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Update on Hobbs


Hi Everyone-
 
Hobbs' caregiver, Jann, also preferred him to be at home and did have
them show her how to do meds and feels ok doing it and has already
startedthe feedings are kind of tough, and he's on many meds
(Densyl, Baytril, Amox., Argenine, Cartinine, Cypro. appetite stimulant,
and I think one other thing).The current latest worries are that
she says his eyes are dilated and glassy, we called the vet and she said
to bring him in.   She also says that he seems weaker in terms of
stopping after just a few steps...and he does cry when she picks him up.
 
When they initially did the BW, it was partially to check for
Hemobartonella or anemia, but he didn't have either of those, though I
do need to get a copy of the blood work.   The vet simply indicated it's
his liver and he appears to have an infection.   When I asked about the
Baytril and Amoxicillin, she said it was in case there is an infection
in the liver and also part of their liver cocktail, if I understood
correctly.   I have a friend who has some Imulan coming in, she's using
it on an FIV+ of hers (and says it has helped him greatly, but is not a
quick-fix kind of thing)Hobbs' has so much already going in him, I'm
wondering if it's smarter to consider this if he improves  strengthens.
My vet is not familiar with Imulan and I'm not yet sure if she'll
administer it.
 
Jann says Hobbs is so braveof course seeing him struggling is
breaking her heart.   I really appreciate all of your thoughts, prayers
and advice.   Any input is welcome!!!
 
Heather

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RE: Hobbs, more info--Liver

2008-04-29 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
If the bilirubin is high, could this be fatty liver disease (hepatic
lipidosis)?  I've been through this with my Luc and it is very
reversible with proper treatment.  The treatment is simple -- feed,
feed, feed, and quick, quick, quick!  The problem is that the cat may
not feel like eating, in which case force-feeding or tube-feeding is the
way to go.  With Luc, force-feeding was so stressful that we elected to
have an esophageal tube inserted through his neck.  We thinned out and
blended some A/D from the vet and syringed it through a little funnel
into the tube.  Within a week, he started to feel better and lapped it
up on his own, and turned right around.  We had to wait a while to have
the tube removed -- the rough edges of the hole needed to heal over
before they could be stitched shut.  
 
We too had the test to the tune of several hundred dollars, and then Luc
didn't react well to the anesthetic and they kept him overnight for
several more hundred, so I feel your pain on having to consider money.
The tube insertion itself was only a couple hundred dollars (although
the vet may have taken pity on us after the original $1200 we'd spent on
tests and the overnight stay).  Thankfully, my mother had left a small
amount of money and I know she would have been happy to know it went to
save my heart-kitty's life.
 
I hope things turn out okay for Hobbs!  Hugs to him and his hoomins.
 
Diane R.



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Hi everyone,
 
I thank you all so much for your caring  insightful replies!
 
It appears the problem is Hobbs' liver, his bilirubin is very high.
They are suggesting a regimen of meds including Denocil, baytril, amox.,
Cartinine  Arginine, and fluids.   BW suggested an infection which may
be the reason for the antibiotics.
 
They also suggested doing X-ray/ultrasound/fine needle aspirate 
cytology for the liver.   I asked if we can start the meds and see how
he responds.   If anyone has comments on this it is appreciated.   My
rescue vet bills were $1,100 last week and I hate considering money, but
the vet did say we could proceed that way...I also thought sedating for
the aspirate might not be good if he's so weak?
 
What we are trying to figure out now is if it's best to hospitalize him
for 3 days for fluids as suggested, or, for my friend to take him home
where she can watch over him more during the night (my vet's does not
have staff there overnight).   She can't do fluids so would have to
bring him back each day for fluids if so.   I think that would be
stressful, but it might be best for him to be at homeespecially if
he took a turn for the worse, I don't think she'd like his last moments
to be in the hospital if possible.   I am always boarding cats so they
can get proper care but in this case am not sure which is best, kind of
a toss up.
 
Karen, if you have suggestions now that we know that the liver seems to
be the issue, it's appreciated or I can give you a call.   A good rescue
friend suggested SamE, but I think the Denocil is like an RX version
that might have some further benefits if I'm understanding correctly.
 
Thank you allI haven't been active in the group but always scan the
messages and pray for all of our kitties.
 
Blessings to you all--and especially to your furry ones,
 
Heather

 

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RE: Today is test day

2008-04-24 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Best of luck to you and Buzz today.  Hugs and good vibes to both of you.

Diane R. 

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Hello everybody,
Today after work I will take Buzz to have his first re-test since he was
diagnosed positive for FeLV.  I am trying not to hope too much, but
there is a bottle of champagne in the fridge if he turns out negative.
Tuna for Buzz - I don't think he likes champagne.
Meanwhile he has been released from his room and is socializing with the
other cats.  I did some of the things the people in this group
recommended and that probably helped. All went well until a couple of
days ago when some electricians came to our house.  He really freaked!
He hid for 8 hours after they were gone.  His fear probably had
something to do with the abuse he received as a kitten.
Anyway, if anyone would care to say a prayer for my little kitty it sure
would be appreciated.
Sue

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RE: test

2008-04-22 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Me too, Tonya, both at home and at work.  When I saw the one at home, I
thought maybe it was because my inbox was nearly full -- but at work I
usually have a maximum of 100 items.  
 
Diane R.



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i got a notice saying i was bounced off the list. i rejoined, or
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RE: Fw: Please add Inky to CLS

2008-04-22 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
 Kerry, this is very late, but please accept my deepest condolences on
Inky's passing.  What a great long time you had together!
 
Diane R. 

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I didn't see this posted at the group so I thought I would re-send it. I
guess there has been a problem with the sight.  Hope this was ok.

Thanks, Kerry

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Date: Thursday, April 17, 2008, 6:51 PM


Hi everyone,

I think some of you might remember helping me with Inky back when Bandy
was ill.  Although Inky wasn't felv+, I would like him added to friends
at the CLS.  He was Buster and Lil Rascal's uncle.  He was 21 yrs 8
months and 4 days.  He fought a tough battle with CRF, IBD, and hyper-t
for the past 2 1/2 yrs.  He went on his own terms and in his own
time..He did some really unusual things the last 10 days prior to his
death. Just re-visiting some of his favorite places in the house and
such..He was one exceptional kitty, and I miss him so much..The place
isn't the same without him as most of you know how that is.

Anyway, he passed on April 13, Sunday.  

Thanks so much for all your help in the past and if I can ever help with
anything I would be glad to do so..I hope to get back on here real soon.

Kerry, Angel's Bandy, Inky, Buster, Lil Rascal, Snoopy, Striper, Albert
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RE: I really need some advice

2008-04-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
If you would rather keep this baby than adopt her out, I say go ahead
and have Velvet vaccinated (unless s/he is sickly) and let Binxy out of
that bathroom.  The only thing might be to introduce them gradually,
like with Binxy in a cage for a few days, to see if they're going to be
aggressive.  Of course, that's actually prudent for any new arrivals.  I
have only had one cat with FeLV, and only for a very short time, but his
first night in our house he got out of the back hall where we were
isolating him and intermingled with the other cats in our household, and
they are all fine after almost 2 years since their exposure to him.  He
hadn't bit anybody, and I don't know if he shared food/water/litterbox
with them, but very obviously he didn't transmit anything by just
interacting with them.

I'm glad you found this list.  It's a wonderful resource.

Diane R.

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Subject: I really need some advice

 I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro
 Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago
 who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV.

I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom
until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes
under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew
in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the
people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her--not
spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites,  no vet visits in four
years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an
older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people
want kittens. She is really cute. 

Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the
test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This
leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just
isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer.
I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does
allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs
bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very
loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over
being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving
personality is emerging.  Were she a more offish or mean type, the
thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as
difficult.

Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy
and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat
or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a
total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several
rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the
highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the
resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats
at risk.

If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be
immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at
all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the
cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue
group and tested before they even came through my door. 

Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in
this area which specializes in placing pos. cats?  I really don't want
to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what
to do now and I must do something soon.   I found this list as I was
doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have
encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from
other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public.

If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit-Metro in
Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey,
I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her
along.  

I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in
advance for any advice you could give me.  I really appreciate it.

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RE: I really need some advice

2008-04-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I forgot to mention, even though your vet may have administered the
in-house test correctly, that test sometimes shows false positives (and
negatives).  You should have Binxy retested using the Western Blot,
which is more accurate.

Diane R. 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:07 PM
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Subject: I really need some advice

 I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro
 Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago
 who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV.

I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom
until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes
under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew
in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the
people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her--not
spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites,  no vet visits in four
years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an
older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people
want kittens. She is really cute. 

Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the
test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This
leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just
isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer.
I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does
allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs
bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very
loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over
being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving
personality is emerging.  Were she a more offish or mean type, the
thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as
difficult.

Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy
and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat
or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a
total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several
rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the
highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the
resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats
at risk.

If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be
immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at
all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the
cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue
group and tested before they even came through my door. 

Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in
this area which specializes in placing pos. cats?  I really don't want
to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what
to do now and I must do something soon.   I found this list as I was
doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have
encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from
other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public.

If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit-Metro in
Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey,
I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her
along.  

I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in
advance for any advice you could give me.  I really appreciate it.

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RE: I really need some advice

2008-04-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Oops, sorry, was replying re FIV on another list, have Western Blot on
brain. 

Diane R.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: I really need some advice

Western Blot is for FIV, IFA is for FeLV.

If the snap test is positive for FeLV and the exposure
was recent, it can 
take 8 to 12 weeks before it will show in the IFA
test.  It could also have 
been a false positive and there is the possibility
that if it was a true 
positive and the exposure was recent the cat may be
able to mount an immune 
response and eliminate the virus.  That would usually
happen with 12 weeks 
after exposure.

If vaccinating other cats that may become exposed keep
in mind that to 
obtain the full immunity the vaccine provides requires
a series of 2 shots 3 
to 4 weeks apart so, the vaccine is not fully
effective for about 4 weeks.

Gary

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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: I really need some advice


I forgot to mention, even though your vet may have
administered the
 in-house test correctly, that test sometimes shows
false positives (and
 negatives).  You should have Binxy retested using
the Western Blot,
 which is more accurate.

 Diane R.



 


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RE: A few more facts

2008-04-02 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Caroline --

Of course you are making the right decision for both you and Binxy.
While money shouldn't have to be an object in pet care, it ALWAYS is,
and between the high-quality food, the supplements and the vet visits,
Binxy's care could eventually get costly, even if she's healthy now.  My
housemate and I both make reasonable lower-middle-class livings.  When
our Patches found us and tested positive, we couldn't abandon him, but
in the long run would have had a hard time paying for his care,
especially with 4 other cats needing vaccinations and their own care.
(As it turned out, we didn't have a long run with him, just under two
months.)  And of course there's the emotional toll, which everybody here
can relate to.

Likewise, nobody can fault or second-guess you on your avoidance of
vaccines.  There's some scary literature out there on that issue, and my
housemate and I have tried to avoid vaccinating our completely, forever
indoor cats, or at least vaccinating as often as the law would like.  As
you say, closed system.  

Here are big vibes that you find a great forever home for this sweet
baby.  (If the Iowa contacts don't pan out, you might check out places
like Best Friends -- other listmembers have had dealings with them and
other sanctuaries and can fill you in on them.)  Please let us know what
develops!

Diane R.

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 When I wrote in yesterday, I was more in panic mode and not necessarily
 thinking too clearly. I appreciate the advice from all of those who
 responded and felt I should fill in the picture a little more. I have
 also followed up on all of the Iowa contacts and hope something can
 develop there. I was also contacted by a gentleman from the list here,
 Gary, and if we can get the transportation coordinated, that looks to
 be the best yet.

 God bless those of you who have dedicated your life to helping these
 Felv kitties. I've realized more than ever why it is pretty unrealistic
 of me to keep her.

The house in which I currently live is not mine---it is a shared housing
situation while I wait for my name to come up on one of the lists for
subsidized Senior housing to which I have applied. The rest of the house
would appreciate their bathroom back, which my landlord has informed me
about.

Caring indefinitely for a cat (or possibly two) with a major disease
such as this is totally unrealistic for a low-income Senior living on SS
only. Reading about the numerous tests, supplements, treatments, etc. it
is obvious how quickly things can add up. Realistically, it's just not
manageable for me at all.  For those of you in different circumstances,
I think it's wonderful that you have chosen to use the resources you
have to make a difference for these kitties.  

 My cat has not been vaccinated for this and even if she were, the
 vaccine is generally 90% effective. Even tho Velvet is currently
 healthy, that may not necessarily be the case and could change rapidly
 at any  time.  She is a very Senior cat at 17 yrs. old and has
 outlasted her two other sisters even with a heart murmur. However, I
 could not live with myself if she were in the unlucky 10% and ended up
 with this disease due to my decision to expose her to it.

  I guess I could be faulted by some for her not being vaccinated, but
  that's just a result of my risk-benefits ratio evaluation of
  vaccinations for adult cats in general (kittens with undeveloped
  immune systems is a totally different scenario) With the accumulating
  evidence for the various cancers  stemming from yearly vaccinations, I
  just felt that it was better for MY cats to by-pass being vaccinated
  for something they would not encounter. Other people do differently
  for their cats as is their right.

 For all the time I have had various cats over the years, they have
 always been totally indoor-only cats. It has always been a closed
 system The only way for them to be exposed to something is if I
 introduce it. And as unbelievable as it may sound, no cat of mine has
 gotten out of my door unawares even tho one was a dedicated escape
 artist who felt she just HAD to go thru every open door, even a closet
 door. :) Velvet has zero interest (I guess her time as a stray prior to
 the SPCA was enough of a trauma so the streets hold no allure.)


 The best and most realistic thing that I can do for Binxy is to make a
 reasonable attempt to find someone who can care for her and if that
 fails then be sure that she is euthanized peacefully via injection
 rather than that horrendous vaccuum chamber or gas which can cause such
 needless suffering.


For me to do otherwise would be just plain foolish---I can't spend money
I don't have to save one cat while there are probably hundreds, if not
thousands, of other healthy cats within an hours drive being 

RE: Zeus Please add to the CLS :(

2008-03-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sorry, Sherry.  He sounds like a feisty little guy.  Hugs to all and
gentle Bridge vibes to Zeus.
 
Diane R.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:24 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Zeus Please add to the CLS :(


Well this was a bit of a shock for us. Zeus has been battling a URI and
we have had to keep his nose clean all the time.He was one big boy with
quite the cattitude.He would stalk me when I handed out individual
feedings at Sids.He loved baby food!! I used to argue with him but then
recently began a little bit of a friendship with him.He has been so
sweet the last couple of weeks.He has been there longer than I have been
volunteering,he will be missed by us all.I guess the infection moved
into his brain.Bye sweet Zeus
Sherry



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RE: please add Slinky to the CLS

2008-03-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
What a shame.  Gentle Bridge journey to Slinky and hugs to Laura.
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: please add Slinky to the CLS


Hi 
 
Slinky adopted my sister a year and a half ago. He was cautious to be
her cat as he was probably dumped off. He finally befriended her and her
canine lab mixes who loved chasing cats. Slinky was fearless andhe
invited his self into her home. With his laid back attitude the dogs did
not give chase. The day Junior passed I called Laura to cry on her
shoulder. She informed me Slinky was sleeping a lot and somewhat
lethargic. He was also off his food. I told her get him to a vet ASAP,
which she did. She found out that he was FELV positive. He had a fever.
The vet gave fliuds and sent abx home with her. Laura was scared . She
decided to give it a chance as this cat chose her. Well folks it was not
meant to be the cat went off. She found him hiding under her porch and
she could see in his eyes he was ready to go. So she took him to another
vet who checked everything out and she decided to set him free. She
feels as I do that Junior was letting us know that Slinky was not well.
 
So please add Slinky to the CLS for Laura. Hopefully Slinky will send
her someone to love soon.
 
Thanks
 
Sally
 
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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Tator, if this works I will join you in choking down a cheesecake (I
never *got* it -- why would you want CHEESE in a CAKE?? Cakes are for
chocolate and yummy cloyingly sweet icing!)
 
If this works, so much future heartache will be averted.  I suppose it's
too much to hope that it will come in time for most of the kitties on
this list, but here's hoping anyway!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


Thank you for sending this!
http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05fa8/01 
Yes, I will eat a whole Cheesecake if this does happen as promised!
Remember I can't stand the stuffLOL
This is totally awesome news to read about.
I'm excited
I have requested to be on their mailing list as well.
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 7:35:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug
Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal
government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom
based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study
that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia
(FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of
Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be
limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal
approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of
the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we
conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind
pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the
same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger
follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be
conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the
pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which
Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us
for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with
the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe
and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking for a
location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary).
Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot study
and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for
that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the
drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of
the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few
days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you
have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the
pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners...
this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives
will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to support us
with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and
now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I
am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation
to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these
potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible.


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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend one way
or the other.  And if this small a sample means it can get under way
quickly, I think it's worth a shot.  The results might nudge interest in
a larger study at the very least.
 
LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat owners
in the rest of the company.  That's OK, Florida is really good at
black-market stuff. ;-)
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is
thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...


On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

   Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New Cobra-Venom Drug
Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the federal
government to approve a license application to use a new cobra-venom
based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind research study
that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures feline leukemia
(FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval from the State of
Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the disease - sales would be
limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida cat owners. Federal
approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie Levy of
the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine suggested we
conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled double blind
pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study will follow the
same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a larger
follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study will be
conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results from the
pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study - which
Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the drug to us
for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot study (with
the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is safe
and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking for a
location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the sanctuary).
Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot study
and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money for
that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If the
drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale of
the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In a few
days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then, if you
have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate in the
pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their owners...
this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV, many lives
will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to support us
with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating funds and
now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study underway, I
am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need every donation
to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and for these
potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax deductible.


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RE: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!

2008-03-19 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
ROFL!!



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


here, snakey snakey snakey


On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Yes, it's small, but hopefully enough to at least show a trend
one way or the other.  And if this small a sample means it can get under
way quickly, I think it's worth a shot.  The results might nudge
interest in a larger study at the very least.
 
LOL, I can see a huge black market in cobra-venom drugs for cat
owners in the rest of the company.  That's OK, Florida is really good at
black-market stuff. ;-)
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Is Cheesecake On The Horizan?!


I would eat cheesecake even if it weren't true...sure hope it is
thojust remember than 18-30 cats is a really small sample size...


On 3/18/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

   Just received this from www.10thlife.org
http://www.10thlife.org/  newsletter, dare we hope???


Pilot Study Will Help Determine If New
Cobra-Venom Drug Cures Feline Leukemia

For more than a year we've been waiting for the
federal government to approve a license application to use a new
cobra-venom based drug in a large placebo controlled double blind
research study that will scientifically determine if the new drug cures
feline leukemia (FeLV). The manufacturer has already received approval
from the State of Florida to proceed, but - if the drug cures the
disease - sales would be limited to Florida veterinarians and Florida
cat owners. Federal approval would allow sales anywhere.

  Because of the federal delay, Dr. Julie
Levy of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine
suggested we conduct a smaller 18-30 cat, four month, placebo controlled
double blind pilot study using the Florida license. The pilot study
will follow the same procedures and be conducted in the same manner as a
larger follow-up study using 100+ FeLV positive cats. The larger study
will be conducted if the pilot study shows good results. Good results
from the pilot study could expedite federal approval for a larger study
- which Dr. Levy would supervise. The larger 100+ cat study will prove
conclusively that the drug cures, or does not cure, FeLV.

  The drug's manufacturer will supply the
drug to us for both studies (at no charge) and will supervise the pilot
study (with the results forwarded to Dr. Levy).

  No harm will come to the cats. The drug is
safe and there are no known side effects.

  For the last two weeks I've been looking
for a location to conduct the pilot study (we can't do it at the
sanctuary). Once we find a place, I can put a final budget together.

  We will need to raise money for the pilot
study and if we proceed to the bigger study, we'll have to raise money
for that, too. Donors to either study will receive a tax deduction. If
the drug does cure FeLV, 10th Life will receive a royalty on each sale
of the drug because (1) we are raising the necessary research funds (the
manufacturer's research budget is for human - not animal - trials), and
(2) we will be supplying the FeLV+ cats.

  We will probably need more FeLV+ cats. In
a few days I'll know if we need more FeLV+ cats and will ask you, then,
if you have, or know someone who has, FeLV+ cats that could participate
in the pilot study. Most FeLV+ cats are routinely put down by their
owners... this research is necessary because, if the drug cures FeLV,
many lives will be saved.

  In the meantime, please continue to
support us with a donation... I spend most of my time raising operating
funds and now that I'm spending a lot of time trying to get this study
underway, I am not out there raising operating funds. Please, we need
every donation to continue providing for our 1,200+ sanctuary cats and
for these potentially life saving studies. All donations are tax
deductible.


-- 

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RE: Marley Please add to the CLS :(

2008-03-17 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Gosh, Sherry, I'm so sorry.  Marley sounds like a very special little
guy indeed.  As always, hugs to you all.  I know Marley is telling
everybody at the Bridge the same kind of wonderful things about you
guys, including the slow dancing.
 
Diane R.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:52 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Marley Please add to the CLS :(


This is one of the biggest heartbreaks that I have had to deal with
since I started volunteering at Sids.Marley was the most
beautiful,handsome,sweet loving black cat that I have ever met.I know
that MANY MANY volunteers are crying today for the loss of our
Marley.Every cat that comes into our care leaves us with a piece of our
hearts,well Marley took ALOT more than that!! He has touched all of us
in so many ways.I will miss our slow dancing while he stared soulfully
into my eyes.Yes we slow danced. :) I swear he totally listened and
understood what I said to him.Monday night was the last time I had the
chance to tell him how much I loved him and how special he is to me.He
actually meowed at me,he didnt do that much.the aweful disease spread ti
his brain and Jen had to let him go yesterday.she sent out a very sweet
e-mail to all of us,title Goodbye to our Amazing Marley.He was truly an
amazing boy.The place will NEVER be the same.But it will still be full
of love.
Thank you all so much,
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RE: Mr. Kennedy Please add to the CLS :(

2008-03-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm sorry he didn't make it, Sherry.  I'm sure he's at the Bridge
bragging you all up.  Hugs.
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 5:53 AM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: Mr. Kennedy Please add to the CLS :(


I am saddened to say that we lost sweet Mr. Kennedy yesterday.Dr. Jen
said she got him purring for her and held him close as he fell asleep.I
will miss his sweet half black half white face.He was an older boy of 8
years old and lived many years in another sanctuary that did not look
after his needs as they should have.But at least we got to love him for
a too little of a time.Thanks for you prayers.
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RE: OT - CLS addition....... my Bandit

2008-03-07 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sorry, Barb.  Sweet Bridge vibes to Bandit, and hugs to you and Smoky.
 
Diane R.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT - CLS addition... my Bandit


Bandit and his brother Smoky were the 2 kits I adopted after my FeLV+
kitty Ninja went to the Bridge.  Bandit went to the Bridge on Wednesday
March 5th, with his Momma and brother sitting with him.  He was only 9.5
yrs old...  but he's not hurting anymore and I'm sure he and Ninja and
Bart will get together and scheme to find someone to send to me.
Belinda, Bandit was FeLV-
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito 
 
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living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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RE: Autumn's Eye

2008-03-05 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
She sounds like a funny little girl -- I mean as in amusing rather than
peculiar, but probably both apply. ;-)  I'm glad she's doing better.
Here's vibes that her eye clears up okay.
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 2:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Autumn's Eye


Thanks to everyone for the info. Autumn is doing better today. You can
tell that her right eye isn't quite right - it seems more glassy than
the other. The steroids make her think she's invincible and she hates
her eye drops. Yesterday after her last dose she ran back over and
swatted the bottle out of my hand. Today she ran from me and tried to
get away - which I take as a good sign. She's usually pretty patient
with medicines. I've been watching her closely and I have my fingers
crossed that she just somehow gave herself a black eye.We'll just have
to keep watching it through the weekend. On a funny note, I decided to
skip brushing her teeth to keep from possibly further irritating her
eye. She saw me with my tooth brush in my mouth and indignantly screamed
at me. 'How dare I skip her!' I ended up having to give hers a cursory
scrubbing (she loves the malt toothpaste.) Bossy little squirt.
~Susan A.


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RE: BooBoo left us

2008-03-03 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Lynne, I am so sorry you lost BooBoo.  My heart truly goes out to you
and Bob.  Most of us on this list are all too familiar with the
frustration and desperation you've felt these past weeks, when you try
everything, hope for anything, and end up losing them anyway.  My
experience with Patches was less than 2 months, over a year ago, but I
still sometimes mourn the time we didn't have together.  You guys need
have no regrets (except for that part) -- you did every single thing you
possibly could.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to your brave boy.
 
I do believe that they come and visit us.  Sometimes late at night
you'll feel somebody jump up on the bed -- and the other cat(s) are
clearly not in the room.  Somebody (probably on this list) suggests
asking your departed pet to come and visit, and even, if you move, to
renew the invitation at the new place.  You will be happy again, when
you've had a little time and a chance to de-stress.  There may even be
another kitty in the future that you feel BooBoo has sent to you.  These
feelings that they're telling you something aren't stupid.  There is so
much out there that science has no explanation for.
 
Hugs to you and Bob.
 
Diane R.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: BooBoo left us


We lost our precious baby tonight.  He developed difficulty breathing
and we rushed him to the emergency clinic.  He was dehydrated and had
just had his lungs aspirated Friday.  The vet recently experienced the
same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes
think they make stuff up to identify with your pain.
 
I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he
slipped away almost immediately.  I don't think I've cried this much in
my life, Bob too.  At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy
again.  Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time
to go and he thanked us.  He was so very weak he could hardly walk but
he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in.  We
know this was best for him but the worst for us.
 
Thank you all for being so very supportive.
 
Lynne

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RE: OT - Cat enclosures

2008-02-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
OMG!!  Cats, schmats, *I* want to live there!
 
Diane R.



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Boy, am I jealous of these people!  One day I hope we can have a setup
like this one!

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RE: more questions and thankyou

2008-02-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Obviously, Dorothy, treat your cats the way you're comfortable with, but
as someone else has stated, the Cornell info *is* outdated.  If FeLV
were as hugely contagious as stated, I would now have 4 cats dead of it,
since our Patches escaped our quarantine the first night he was with us,
and interacted freely with whichever of our cats cared to acknowledge
his presence for at least 3 hours, and may have had some of their food
and drink as well.  Everybody is as robust as ever.  Patches was already
in the lymph-node-involvement stage, and only lasted 7 weeks with us
after that.  But if he hadn't been sick pretty much the entire time he
was with us, we would probably have had the others vaccinated and let
him mingle with them.  He so wanted to be out with us, and instead he
had to stay in a room alone most of the day. :-(
 
Don't be affronted about your info being called wrong.  It's easy to do,
it seems like there's more wrong info out there than right.  
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: more questions and thankyou


You are welcome to describe my information as inaccurate;  I wrote:
Apparently the virus CAN live for a while.  I have read in several
places that you need to clean any area with a bleach/water cleaner if a
+
cat has been where a negative one will be staying.  It is said that you
should wait 30 days after your + cat is gone before you should
introduce a new negative cat into the household.
 
I would think that the Cornell University (as well as all of the others
documented below) hold a certain amount of credibility - more so than
any layman just posting their opinions here.  
Whatever you believe, I would ALWAYS err on the side of caution and keep
all of the litterboxes, bowls, etc separate.  Without knowing it, I put
my negative cats at risk; they had all been vaccinated for FeLV but it
isn't 100% effective.  Due to the extreme contagiousness, one of my
vaccinated cats now is FeLV positive.  Please note the yellow
highlighted part below - by following this strictly, my other negative
cat remained negative.
Suit yourself, but I prefer to be proactive with my cats.
 
What can I do now to protect my cats?? The only method for protecting
your cats is to remove any FELV-positive cat from other cats completely.
You should also follow strict quarantine procedures including separate
utensils, housing, litter pans for the FELV positive cat, and thoroughly
washing your hands, clothing and shoes after handling and caring for the
FELV positive cat. Do not breed an FELV positive queen!! If you lose a
cat to FELV, it is recommended that you wait 30 days before bringing in
a new cat, and then only after the area has been thoroughly scrubbed and
disinfected with a solution containing 4 ounces of household bleach per
gallon of water, rugs vacuumed completely, and all litter pans, food
dishes, bedding, etc. have been replaced. 


-

*   FeLV is considerably unstable and will not survive outside an
infected cat for an extended length of time. It is recommended to wait
at least 30 days before a new cat is brought into the household/facility
in which a FeLV-positive cat once lived 
*   Cleaning:
Thoroughly disinfect or replace the food dishes, litter pans,
and bedding that were used by the infected cat.
Tile or hard surfaced floors should be cleaned and disinfected
with a diluted bleach solution (approx. 4 oz. household bleach to 1 gal.
water). 
Thoroughly vacuum rugs to eliminate the virus from carpeting. 
*   These plus the thirty-day quarantine, should be sufficient to
eliminate the virus within the household. 

--
Keep a FeLV-infected cat indoors and away from other cats. If the cat
dies from FeLV, the Cornell Feline Health Center recommends a waiting
period of at least 30 days before getting another cat. The house and cat
supplies should be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected before bringing a
new cat home.
An FeLV-positive cat that is not sick is probably still shedding the
virus. FeLV-positive cats should not be housed with other cats. Deciding
what to do with an FeLV-positive cat in a multicat household can be very
difficult. There are several options, including:

*   Euthanasia 
*   Finding a home for the FeLV-positive cat where it will be the
sole cat 
*   Isolating the FeLV-positive cat within the home, by keeping it
in a separate room and providing a separate litter tray and feeding bowl


Because FeLV can be spread through litter trays, water and food bowls,
and bedding, these should be disinfected with a solution containing 4
ounces of household bleach per 1 gallon of water, or they should be
replaced after isolating the FeLV-positive cat. Floors 

RE: FIV

2008-02-28 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I believe everything you've said is correct.  The kind of intermingling
of bodily fluids that comes only with deep bite wounds (or intercourse)
is the way FIV is transmitted.  In this way FIV is similar to HIV, but
its manifestations and treatment are not.  It's basically the good-food
and watchfulness regimen, and many positive cats remain asymptomatic
throughout their generally normal lifespan.  I haven't owned an FIV+ cat
but had some contact with a couple back when I volunteered at the local
Katrina shelter, and they were both big, sweet, healthy guys.  One of
them got to go back home -- they located his owner who unhesitatingly
took him back even knowing the diagnosis.  We all bawled for joy all
over him the day he shipped out.  He must have thought we were all nuts,
slobbering on him like that.  The other guy was, I believe, adopted by
someone as their only cat.  At the Katrina shelter we had to take
precautions, but in the normal course of things, having learned what I
have about FIV (mostly in the course of learning about FeLV), I wouldn't
hesitate to intermingle a non-aggressive positive cat with others.  Of
course, placement with other positive cats would be extra-ideal from a
safety standpoint.  Good luck with this little guy.
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FIV


Does anyone have any direct experience with FIV that they can pass on to
me?  I know the gist of course, since I foster cats and have met and
lost the battle to- both Felv and FIP in the past year (ugh).  I have
heard that cats with FIV can be fairly successful- live heathly lives
barely affected by the disease (is this true?), and it really is a lot
like human HIV?  I have also heard this is the one retroviruses that is
transmitted by deep bite wounds and NOT casual contact?
 
I am going to help a man who has taken in a alley cat that hung around
his house for about 3 years that tested positive of FIV.  He was clearly
neutered by alley cat advocates b/c he has a tipped ear.  He says it's a
wonderful, approx. 5 yo tuxie.  He has him in the bedroom for now (his
only room with a door in his house) because his own cat is an extremely
aggressive, neutered male and after 3 years of the tuxie hanging around
outside, and being in the house for a while now- they can't sort out
their differences and they will fight.  He wishes he could keep the cat
but with his cat- being such an aggressive fighter, and the tuxie being
a fighter when need be (alley cat mentality)-- he just doesn't see it as
possible due to transmission to his cat.  
 
The cat did get outside and got in a fight recently- ended up with an
abcess on his ear- being treated by a vet, stint put in and he has a f-u
next week- but it was at that appointment that the vet found the FIV and
said segregate!- as they always do.
 
I am going to work to get the cat into our adoption program as a
special needs cat in the hopes that someone w/o other cats, with a
non-aggressive cat, with a docile female, with other FIV cats, etc.,
would be willing to take him on.  In the meantime, this man has agreed
to continue to foster him in his home while I work to help him out
with the situation.   
 
In the meantime, I want to build up my knowledge so that I have talking
points for potential adoptive parents and I can educate if someone w/o
prior FIV experience is willing to take him.  The man seems to
understand that he could have a cat on his hands with something a lot
worse (like Felv or FIP), so he's definitely not an overreactor and he
seems well-educated.  
 
Any info that anyone has will be great!  Especially PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
and/or accurate and trustworthy websites I can read and pass on to
others!
 
thanks,
Caroline  




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RE: more bad news

2008-02-27 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Lynne, I know how sad and disheartened you are, but please be aware, as
Kelley says, that all FIP tests are not created equal.  Most of the
tests only show the *presence* of the coronavirus, which actually is
present in huge numbers of cats without ever turning into FIP.  It has
to mutate to become FIP and make them ill, and it usually only happens
in cats that are genetically predisposed for this mutation.  I'm not
saying that BooBoo doesn't have FIP, just that unless the specific test
Kelley mentions is performed, the diagnosis can be inaccurate.  The
general wisdom is that FIP can only really be accurately diagnosed by
necropsy.  
 
That being said, I'm so sorry you're going through this.  Hugs to both
of you and BooBoo.  You're doing a great job.
 
Diane R.



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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: more bad news


I don't know Kelly.  He sent it off to a lab and specifically tested for
it along with culturing the fluid.  I have to assume if he tested
positive and all the symptoms he has are those of an infected animal
that he has it.  Don't I wish there could have been an error but I'm at
the point where I have to accept where this is going.  I just want to
keep him unstressed and comfortable.  Unless there is some miracle drug
that can repair all his blood vessels I'm screwed.
 
Lynne

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From: Kelley Saveika mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: more bad news

Wait, wait.  What test did the vet use to test for FIP?  There
*is* an FIP test which is fairly accurate, but most vets don't even know
about it.  It is called Rivalta's test:
 
This is a test with which few veterinarians are familiar but it
can be very helpful in the diagnosis of FIP.   A test tube is filled
with distilled water and one drop of 98% acetic acid is added. To this
mixture one drop of effusion is added. If the drop dissipates, the test
is negative. If the drop retains its shape, the test is positive.  A
negative Rivalta's test is 97% accurate in ruling out FIP. A positive
test is 86% accurate in ruling in FIP.

Source:  http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html

 

If you are talking about a titer test - almost all cats will
test positive for coronavirus titers.  



 
On 2/27/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does.
BooBoo's cytology came back today and he has FIP as well as feline
leukemia.  There was no bacteria in it. There is nothing left for us to
do for him.  There was no bacteria in the culture, just protein and
fibres, because his blood vessels are leaky.  The vet says all we can do
is make him comfortable and at this point it is all about quality of
life.  He will continue to drain his lungs every week to 10 days and
keep him on this antibiotic until it is finished and only Lasix once a
day, which I guess does nothing for this lung fluid.  If he becomes
worse, ie he has to have the fluid drained more frequently then we will
have to do the obvious.  We will put on a good face for our dear boy and
do everything we can to keep him with us as long as we can but it isn't
looking too good at the moment.  The vet said they had another cat in
this week that tested positive for FIP but not leukemia.  He said BooBoo
has been hit with a double blow and unfortunately the end is near.  I
don't know if the Factor stuff will make it here before Boo dies but I'm
trying to be realistic here now and face the inevitable.  My husband and
I are horribly sad about this but I'm getting angry now at these
criminals who owned him and lied to me about his being healthy and
vaccinated.  We have several top notch lawyers in our practice who like
me a lot and would do me a favor if I asked.  I'm seriously considering
consulting with one of them when this tragedy is over.
 

Lynne




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RE: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(

2008-02-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sherry, sorry about feisty little Finlay.  I know you guys made his
little life with you a great one.  Gentle Bridge vibes to him, and hugs
to you all.
 
Diane R.



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Subject: Finlay Please add to the CLS :(


THis is a heartbreaker,I fell for this fluffy black boy the second I saw
him.He had a bit of a cattitude towards other cats but he loved
people.He even swatted me a few times.But all it took was a look at that
sweet fuzzy face to forgve him.I understood that he had a short hard
life.But plenty of love for the last few months.Thanks for your good
wishes and keep the others im your prayers.
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RE: Melina

2008-02-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
That's good news, Sherry.  Big vibes for a long, happy life for Melina.
 
Diane R.



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I just wanted to report to you all about beautiful little Melina.s you
know she just lost her brother Mysterio.Well last night I was at Sids
and that precious baby is doing just great!! I watched her playing with
a ball and just welled up with tears.That baby won my heart the second
that I laid eyes on her.Thank you all for the good thoughts on her.
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RE: for Lynne - good stories

2008-02-15 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Lynne, I don't think you're alone in reacting the way you did at your
mom's death.  I'm sorry that she, and you, had to go through 5 years  of
that kind of hell.  My mother died a few years ago, after 3 years in a
nursing home, and at the end was so far from what she had been a few
years before that we were probably both relieved. When the first cat I
owned by myself, Saavik, died, I was sad but also a little relieved,
since I had been worried, as she aged, about losing her and then it
happened (acute renal failure, so not a lot of warning) and I cried, a
lot (and still do sometimes when I think of her), but that part of it
was over and I'd lived through it.  My other cat was quite a bit
younger, so I knew that barring calamity I wouldn't have to worry about
THAT for a while again, and it was a relief.  Now HE's getting up there,
and there have been others in between, and it turns out you do get past
the sadness. 
 
The same wonderful woman that Jane mentions, Nina, also brought me to
this list with my stray Patches, and had a lot of wise words for me all
through our ordeal together, which was actually only a matter of weeks.
The circumstances of Patches' entering the lives of me and my housemate
Gail were so odd that I do tend to believe Nina when she told me he'd
been sent to us.  It was 3 a.m. on the Sunday before July 4, which was
on a Tuesday that year.  I just happened to be awake at that outlandish
hour, and noticed one of my cats howling at something outside.  I went
to the enclosed porch to investigate, and there was this big disheveled
boy demanding attention!  So we brought him in, and got him cleaned up
and de-matted -- he had mats so huge they were like big angel wings, and
must have been hurting him terribly.  I think now that he came to us
because we would clean him up, make him comfortable and love him for the
little time it turned out he had. I don't think we'd have been great
FeLV mommies in the long run -- with the supplements and the vet visits
and the top-of-line food, and we had 4 other cats we'd have had to have
vaccinated regularly and our resources are okay but not endless -- but
he didn't need us in the long run.  We beat ourselves up considerably
that we weren't able to save him by the sheer force of our will, but
possibly that was Patches' lesson to us, that you can't, always. ;-)
 
Diane



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: for Lynne - good stories


This may be very true Jane.  On the other hand it has crossed my mind
that I personally am being taught some kind of lesson about the need to
be sad.  My mom passed away last year after a horrible 5 years of
Alzheimer's.  The final two years she was in a nursing home and the
deterioration over that period of time was dramatic, to the point that
one day when I went to visit her I walked right past her because she
looked nothing like my mom.  The night she died, my sister, brother and
I stayed until her last breath.  My siblings broke down crying but not
me.  I believe I made a sigh of relief and I have never shed a tear over
her passing.  I think it's because I had to be responsible for her care
and I know I did all I could.  The other two did little for her.  I hope
that when BooBoo's time comes I can let go as easily as I did with my
mom but I doubt it.  With these little guys we have to make the
decisions about when they go.  I won't let him suffer but it will be
hard.  We held our big Chuckie when he had to be euthanized, drove him
home in the middle of the night and buried him in the pouring rain.
That was 20 years ago and I still choke up when I think of him.
 
Lynne

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From: Jane Lyons mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: for Lynne - good stories

Great Lynne ...that would be wonderful. You've found a good vet!


Not too long ago, when I was as 'shell shocked' as you are now,
a woman (Nina) who was on this list told me that
it is her belief that these Felv kitties are often 'sent' to us
to teach us how to let go of our fear of loss, and how
to live as they do, in the moment. I've found it to be so true.
I hope with some time, you'll feel that way about
BooBoo. It will get better.  
0It sounds as though you and your husband are going to give him
every thing you can to
fight this battle. He's so lucky to have found you.

Jane
On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Lynne wrote:



Jane, I think that's a wonderful idea.  I was telling
our vet about the good stories tonight and he was very interested.
We've determined this is a really terrific guy we've found.  He's
attempting to adopt out a just diagnosed FelV cat because as he confided
to us 

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