Re: cannot generate PDF

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Art, 

well, I do not see any disadvantages in using the "save
as pdf" option. 

Quite the contrary: The resulting PDF will by default
have exactly the same page size as the Frame file. This is very helpful
if you're switching much between different and unusual formats. 

And
the best is: "Saving" the PDF will be about 10 times faster than writing
a postscript file. 

I am often producing postscript files with 1 GB or
more - instead of half an hour this only takes a few minutes. 

Best
regards 

Tino H. Haida 

> A few others in the forum are likely to
disagree but I think it sucks. :-) 
> 
> There have always been
issues with it over the years and releases, so much so that I just quit
using it myself (still have to use it to debug for others) in the FM7
time frame because it was too buggy. It has always used an arcane
interface that, when it works, uses a totally different method of
specking and creating the PDF file than printing to the Acrobat logical
printer instance. It is much improved in the 11 release, but I still
haven't gotten into the habit of using it at all. 
> 
> I follow the
KISS principle and just print to the Acrobat printer. It's more
controllable and more stable, IMHO than its evil twin.
> 
> Bottom line
is if the SaveAs PDF isn't working for you, try printing to the Acrobat
printer instead; it's become a basic debugging step to determine if the
problem is in the output generation or in the files.
> 
> Cheers,
>
Art
> 
> Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
> "... In my opinion,
there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl."
-- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358
> 
> I support
www.TheGrotonLine.com [1], hyperlocal news for Groton MA. 
> 
> On Wed,
Feb 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> 
>>
On 2/13/2013 8:02 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> In particular, if you
get the same results printing
>>> to the Adobe Acrobat logical printer
as when you use SaveAs PDF
>>> (which I wouldn't recommend).
>> Art,
>>

>> Are you saying that SaveAs PDF is not good?
>> 
>> Theresa



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RE: cannot generate PDF

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Fred, 

I just tried: printing to the PDF printer uses the
standard size, e.g. DIN A4, if this is set. Which is absolutely not what
the "save as PDF" option does. 

So I would have to go to the settings
to adjust over and over again. It does not seem an efficient method, as
I am dealing with many different formats... 
Or did I miss something
here? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida 

Am 2013-02-14 21:04, schrieb
Fred Ridder: 

> Art never recommended that you write a PostScript
file.
> What he recommended is that you *print* to the Adobe PDF virtual
printer. This creates a PDF file directly, but uses a predictable set of
Distiller settings (unlike Save As PDF, which is affected by setting in
at least three different locations if I recall correctly). Printing to
the Adobe PDF virtual printer takes essentially the same amount of time
that the Save As PDF method does; the last time I tested the two methods
against one another, printing to the Adobe PDF printer was faster than
Save As PDF about 1/3 of the time and was only significantly slower on
one test document.
> And printing to the Adobe PDF virtual printer does
use the page size defined in FrameMaker, just as Save As PDF does.
> 
>
-Fred Ridder
> 
> -
> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013
01:32:23 +0100
> From: i...@heiko-haida.de
> To:
framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: cannot generate PDF
> 
>
Hello Art,
> well, I do not see any disadvantages in using the "save as
pdf" option.
> Quite the contrary: The resulting PDF will by default
have exactly the same page size as the Frame file. This is very helpful
if you're switching much between different and unusual formats.
> And
the best is: "Saving" the PDF will be about 10 times faster than writing
a postscript file.
> I am often producing postscript files with 1 GB or
more - instead of half an hour this only takes a few minutes.
> Best
regards 
> Tino H. Haida
> 
>> A few others in the forum are likely to
disagree but I think it sucks. :-) 
>> 
>> There have always been
issues with it over the years and releases, so much so that I just quit
using it myself (still have to use it to debug for others) in the FM7
time frame because it was too buggy. It has always used an arcane
interface that, when it works, uses a totally different method of
specking and creating the PDF file than printing to the Acrobat logical
printer instance. It is much improved in the 11 release, but I still
haven't gotten into the habit of using it at all. 
>> 
>> I follow the
KISS principle and just print to the Acrobat printer. It's more
controllable and more stable, IMHO than its evil twin.
>> 
>> Bottom
line is if the SaveAs PDF isn't working for you, try printing to the
Acrobat printer instead; it's become a basic debugging step to determine
if the problem is in the output generation or in the files.
>> 
>>
Cheers,
>> Art
>> 
>> Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
>> "... In my
opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD
358
>> 
>> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com [1], hyperlocal news for
Groton MA. 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Theresa de Valence
 wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/13/2013 8:02 AM, Art Campbell
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In particular, if you get the same results
printing
>>>> to the Adobe Acrobat logical printer as when you use
SaveAs PDF
>>>> (which I wouldn't recommend).
>>> Art,
>>> 
>>> Are you
saying that SaveAs PDF is not good?
>>> 
>>> Theresa
> 
>
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Re: Cannot find the file named...

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello David, 

lately I have a similar problem: double-clicking
takes vey long to start the application and to open the file,
whereas the normal Open dialog from within the application works as
usual. 

This is not always the case, but if, then it happens with any
application, also MS Word, Excel and so on. 
Here it helped to uncheck
the DDE option for those file-types (which is not possible for
Frame-files), but today I saw that the option is checked again
mysteriously. 

So my guess about this would be that its rather a
problem with the OS or with the network, not necessarily with
FrameMaker.
FM seems to expect a quick answer from the OS and handles
the delay as file error (my interpretation, only a guess). 

I am using
Windows XP here, by the way.
If someone has an explanation to this
problem, I would also be very glad. 

Best regards 

Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 

Am 2013-02-25 16:33, schrieb David Artman: 

> Hi, all;
> 
>
Latest, out-of-the-blue functional bug on FM8.0p277, Win 7:
> 
> 1)
Navigate to working folder for project [just like every day].
> 2)
Double-click BOOK file.
> FrameMaker opens, them immediately displays
the following message:
> "Cannot find the file named __. Make sure that
the file exists.
> 3) Click OK on that message.
> 4) On the FrameMaker
menu, click File > 1 [file_name].
> FrameMaker immediately displays the
same error message as in step 2, 
> then FrameMaker displays the Open
dialog, at the project folder root 
> (i.e., last folder to which I
wrote files).
> 5) Double-click the BOOK file in the Open dialog.
> The
BOOK file opens in FrameMaker.
> 
> Same behavior if I try to do the
above with a standalone FM file.
> 
> I have, over the course of days,
installed software that does various
> things to interface with the
hardware that I am documenting, so it's
> possible something went
pear-shaped with Windows. I'm *inclined* to
> blame FM because (a)
Windows knows the BOOK should open Frame, and sends
> it to Frame, and
only THEN does Frame claim not to find it; and (b) it's
> FrameMaker 8.
By Adobe. So, yeah
> 
> Any ideas what I could do to repair
whatever's gone wrong? I'm comfy
> manipulating INI file and the Windows
Registry. But I can't reinstall
> FM8, though I *have* rolled back and
reapplied all patches (p266 is 155
> MB, so I imagine it's pretty
thoroughly updating everything). This
> problem persists through daily
reboots.
> Thanks in advance;
> David
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Re: Distiller changes page sizes at will

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Thomas, 

most of our PDF files are produced with visible
printer marks (FrameMaker 8, Acrobat 9 Pro, Win XP). 

In some cases,
pages will be trimmed irregularly like you mention it.
So when checking
the PDF file I always set this back to zero for all pages just to be
sure. 

I have no idea at the moment why this happens, but until now I
could still handle it. 
Of course it would be embarassing if hundreds of
files were affected or if the output was produced without any
possibility for manual correction. 

It would be great to find out more
about this ... 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida 

Thomas Scalise: 

>
Esteemed colleagues, 
> 
> I am running FrameMaker 10 and Adobe
Distiller 11 on WIN 7 Professional. I have a simple manual with a Title
Page, a TOC, and 11 chapters. The manual is in A4 size. I have created,
and use, Distiller job options for the A4 page size. 
> 
> When I make a
PDF ( using Save as PDF), the Title page, the TOC, and Chapters 1, 9 10,
and 11 all format correctly. Chapters 2-8, however, format with the top
of the page trimmed off (the page size reverts to 8.5 X 11). The same
thing happens if I Print the manual to a postscript file and run the
Distiller against that file. 
> 
> I should say that using the same
Distiller settings against another A4 manual, the results are completely
correct. No shorter pages in the PDF. 
> 
> Has anyone faced this
problem? I have not seen it before, and I have made PDFs from many A4
size manuals. It looks as though starting with Chapter 2 the page size
is changed in the Distiller to 8.5 X 11 and then changed back to A4
starting with Chapter 9. Is there something that I have inadvertently
done in those chapters that is causing this Distiller behavior? To my
knowledge I have done nothing different in FrameMaker than I have done
before in creating a manual (nothing I am aware of, at any rate). 
> 
>
I came here rather than going to the Adobe forums, which are byzantine
in access and glacial in pace. Thanks is advance for any help you can
give. 
> 
> Tom 
> 
> TOM SCALISE 
> 
> Manager, Technical Documentation

> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: OT: FM and InDesign

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Alison, 

I don't know of any direct way of importing or
converting within the Adobe products. 

But I recently converted some
FrameMaker mif files to Indesign with the "Mif Filter"-plugin for
Indesign (by dtptools). 

After installing the plugin, mifs will be
visible in the Indesign "open file" dialog and can be opened (but not
saved or otherwise exported), allowing to test the plugin resp. the
files for suitability. If you want to convert, i.e. if you want to save
as Indesign file(s), you have to buy credits on a per-page basis.


There are some limitations due to conceptual differences between
FrameMaker and Indesign layouts, but I found it extremely useful, so you
should give it a try. 

Make sure you are not using to many local format
overrides because each of these will produce new formats like eg.
body001, body002, ...
So it pays off to prepare the FrameMaker files
thoroughly. 

More informations: -->
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid&more=features 

Best regards
- 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin (Germany) 

Alison Craig: 

> I don't use
InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open FM9
files in InDesign? 
> 
> I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products,
there's some kind of support. 
> 
> Alison
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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Rick, 

I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table
navigation was "OFF". 

Your suggestion is to add: 

>
>
>
> 

In FM 8, I had a
modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added these 4 lines
to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation via key arrows is now
ON! 

In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so I created this file with
these 4 lines as the only content => table navigation is now ON! 

So
everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you!


Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

> Hi Fred, 
> 
> I
specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they
worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the
modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem
specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. 
> 
>
Rick 
> 
> FROM: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
> SENT:
Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM
> TO: r...@rickquatro.com;
syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables 
> 
> Thanks Rick and Syed.
> 
> In my poking around earlier
today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the
MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut
keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the 
definition, or added a  command, those two MoveIP commands
refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do
MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two
commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the
move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to
reach for the mouse every damn time.
> 
> What's frustrating is that I
*know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one
mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to
impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with
version 9.0. Sigh...
> 
> I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe,
but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in
ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two
hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And
ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore,
the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that "we
fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work".
Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how
other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved
differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures
and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job
security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their
operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day...
> 
>
Thanks for your efforts, guys.
> 
> Fred Ridder 
> 
>> From:
r...@rickquatro.com
>> To: syed.hos...@aeris.net;
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>> 
>> Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
>>
these lines:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi all, 

I checked with "alt-key + shift-key + arrow-keys", that
would work (alt/shift+arrow does not seem to have another function when
the cursor is placed in the text). 

>
>
>
> 

Best regards - 

Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 

> Hi Rick, 
> 
> I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9
installations - table navigation was "OFF". 
> 
> Your suggestion is to
add: 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>

> In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I
added these 4 lines to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation
via key arrows is now ON! 
> 
> In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so
I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content => table
navigation is now ON! 
> 
> So everything's fine and working in these
older FM-versions. Thank you! 
> 
> Best regards - 
> 
> Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 
> 
>> Hi Fred, 
>> 
>> I specifically tested the four I modified
with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't
test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test
them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't
exactly right. Thanks. 
>> 
>> Rick 
>> 
>> FROM: Fred Ridder
[mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
>> SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11
AM
>> TO: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net;
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> SUBJECT:
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables 
>> 
>> Thanks Rick and Syed.
>> 
>>
In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg
and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to
more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed
the  definition, or added a  command, those two
MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight
both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but
not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just
have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better
than having to reach for the mouse every damn time.
>> 
>> What's
frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x
and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI
on us with version 9.0. Sigh...
>> 
>> I suppose I *should* report this
bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an
exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one
and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15
minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved
to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was
that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent
with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker
now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully
designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked
it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut
down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another
day...
>> 
>> Thanks for your efforts, guys.
>> 
>> Fred Ridder 
>> 
>>>
From: r...@rickquatro.com
>>> To: syed.hos...@aeris.net;
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>>> 
>>> Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
>>>
these lines:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >

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Re: Paragraph Formats Alternate Reality

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Nancy, 

I repeated these actions with one of my files -
everything's ok and fine. 

I have FM 10 with all updates on Win XP.


Could you supply the file? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin


Nancy Allison: 

> Hi, Harro. 
> 
> I finally went manually through
each paragraph format and changed the font from TimesNewRoman to Arial
and used Update All and that solved the problem. The system does have
Arial, and most of the paragraphs did not have overrides. 
> 
> I did a
further test: 
> 
> For clarity: The file that seems impervious to
alterations to paragraph tags, whether through .mif or Import, is
ImperviousFile. 
> 
> The file that I use for creating and then
exporting a clean paragraph tag is called AddFormats. In other words, if
I want to modify a paragraph tag in one or more .fm files, I create the
clean tag in AddFormats and then import it from AddFormats into my .fm
files. 
> 
> In my test I: 
> 
> 1. Deleted all paragraph tags from
AddFormats. 
> 
> 2. Successfully imported all the paragraph tags from
ImperviousFile. 
> 
> 3. Deleted all paragraph tags except Title from
AddFormats. (This is the chapter title para tag.) 
> 
> 4. Changed the
color of Title to red. 
> 
> 5. Imported para tags only from AddFormats
to ImperviousFile. 
> 
> Result: The chapter title did not change color
and the Title para tag did not change attributes! 
> 
> I have edited
ImperviousFile and saved it, so it is not locked. 
> 
> What the heck is
going on?
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Re: Paragraph Formats Alternate Reality

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Nancy, 

now I have been going through your little action list
again. 

What could be crucial here, is to make sure that the para
format is exactly what you want to have in its "basic" definition. 

So
for example you say: 

4. Changed the color of Title to red. 

Ok, you
changed the color - but where? This may somehow only produce an override
definition. You have to "apply to all" (I am sorry, I don't know what
this option next to "apply" is called in the English version). Because
only then you can be sure that also the basic definition of the Title is
affected and that you reimport the changed Title para (with red color
font). Else you would simply reimport exactly the same font definition
as you had imported into the Addformats file at first. 

This may be a
point. What I do not understand, though, is why editing the mif did not
work, as Arial is installed on your system. You might check again how
Arial is exactly referenced in a mif (from a file where Arial is used) -
maybe Harro was right that simply replacing with "Arial" did not take.


Best wishes - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Nancy Allison: 

> Hi, Tino.

> 
> I can't supply the file, unfortunately, since my employer would
not allow it. Thanks for your willingness to help, though. 
> 
> --Nancy

> 
> On 03/21/13, Heiko Haida wrote: 
> 
> Hi
Nancy, 
> 
> I repeated these actions with one of my files -
everything's ok and fine. 
> 
> I have FM 10 with all updates on Win XP.

> 
> Could you supply the file? 
> 
> Best regards - 
> 
> Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 
> 
> Nancy Allison: 
> 
>> Hi, Harro. 
>> 
>> I finally
went manually through each paragraph format and changed the font from
TimesNewRoman to Arial and used Update All and that solved the problem.
The system does have Arial, and most of the paragraphs did not have
overrides. 
>> 
>> I did a further test: 
>> 
>> For clarity: The file
that seems impervious to alterations to paragraph tags, whether through
.mif or Import, is ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> The file that I use for
creating and then exporting a clean paragraph tag is called AddFormats.
In other words, if I want to modify a paragraph tag in one or more .fm
files, I create the clean tag in AddFormats and then import it from
AddFormats into my .fm files. 
>> 
>> In my test I: 
>> 
>> 1. Deleted
all paragraph tags from AddFormats. 
>> 
>> 2. Successfully imported all
the paragraph tags from ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> 3. Deleted all paragraph
tags except Title from AddFormats. (This is the chapter title para tag.)

>> 
>> 4. Changed the color of Title to red. 
>> 
>> 5. Imported para
tags only from AddFormats to ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> Result: The chapter
title did not change color and the Title para tag did not change
attributes! 
>> 
>> I have edited ImperviousFile and saved it, so it is
not locked. 
>> 
>> What the heck is going on?
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RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Tammy, 

I remember that, a long time ago, I had the same problem
with a FM 7.2 installation. 

For reasons I ignore FM created log-files
for any file operation in the windows temp folder, many thousands of
them in only a few months, in the course of which any kind of
file-handling became slower and slower. 

Maybe you could check this.

Unfortunately I do not remember where exactly these files were located
and what extension they had. But if once you know this you can delete
them easily from time to time to regain the usual speed. (-- Other
question would be why these files were produced...) 

Best regards -


Tino H. Haida. Berlin 

Tammy Van Boening: 

> Thank you to everyone
for all their insight into this issue. I have received a myriad of
onlist and offlist responses, and they range from others having
identical issues and not being able to resolve them to some resolution
depending on if you turned off graphics, pods, etc. One interesting
comment that was made to me offlist on a few occasions was that the
problem seemed to really come to the forefront after the last few rounds
of Windows updates, and that is truly something that I have noticed as
well. A few people commented that overall FM 10 response in almost every
aspect was noticeably slowed after this last round of updates and this
was working local or w/ both the files and graphics stored on a network.
For now, I am going to keep all pods closed and be somewhat thankful
that I am pretty keyboard driven for commands (which harks back to my
days on older versions of FM and my age in general J). I really do need
to keep the graphics displayed as I write for a variety of reasons, but
if that ultimately becomes the real showstopper, I will just have to
work my way around that as well. I am sooo tired of all these issues
w/ newer versions of FM. FM 7.2 and 8.0 were just as solid as a rock and
quality just seems to be going downhill exponentially w/ every
subsequent release. 
> 
> Thanks so much again everyone. 
> 
> Regards,

> 
> TVB
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Re: importing HTML into FrameMaker?

[Heiko Haida]

 

--> http://www.blueberrysoftware.com/htmtomif.htm 

I don't know the
software, but you might give it a try. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida


Am 2013-05-05 10:06, schrieb Shmuel Wolfson: 

> Another option is to
save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
> Word, save it as a
DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.
> 
>
Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On
04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> 
>> I occasionally need to
take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a FrameMaker doc. The
wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, tables,
that's about it. Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or
MIF? Sort of the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go? I have
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RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Heiko Haida]

 

Dear Rick, 

please allow one note about the "print engine".


FrameMaker is still using the old Distiller engine (at least version
10 does).
I recently had to switch a workflow from Indesign to
FrameMaker and found it annoying that Indesign would produce a valid PDF
right away whereas with FrameMaker I have to correct all PDFs in Acrobat
to produce PDF/X3 with color profile and valid bleed box.
And as
transparency is not fully supported via the Distiller engine, the actual
PDF/X4 format cannot be produced (the favorite format for one of our
printing service companies). 

So finally, I came to think that not
FrameMaker, but Indesign may have one of the best "print engines" - at
least more flexible and more up to date than FrameMaker's. 

Best
regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Rick Quatro: 

> Here is my
suggestion on where to start. I would like a light-weight editor
> where
the user could apply styles, insert tables, images, etc. The styles
>
would be mapped to a schema so that the user could output XML. Then a
full
> copy of FrameMaker could be used as "print engine". You would set
up a
> structured application in full FrameMaker, and import the XML for
print,
> etc.
> 
> The reasons I favor this approach:
> 
> 1) FrameMaker
is currently the best "print engine" on the market for
> producing
high-quality print/PDF output.
> 
> 2) With a light-weight editor, you
would only need one copy of FrameMaker
> for output. The rest of the
writers/editors could use the light-weight
> editor.
> 
> 3) You could
easily exchange content with users of other XML editors as long
> as
everyone is using the same schema.
> 
> 4) This is a realistic "first
step" to a FrameMaker replacement. Anything
> more complex may be too
ambitious and not get too far.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> r...@frameexpert.com
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Re: Acrobat restriction for large paper sizes still there?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Klaus, 

Adobe states for Acrobat X: 

"For printers capable of
producing very large print areas, Acrobat supports pages as large as
15,000,000 in. (38,100,000 cm) by 15,000,000 in. (38,100,000 cm)."


This does not say anything about the resolution, of course. 

I tried
with Indesign 5.5 - max. page height here is *only* 5586 mm, which was
cropped to 5080 mm when producing a PDF. Acrobat displayed the file
correctly incl. some high resolution images on it (> 200 dpi), so I
guess for the size of your banner Acrobat X will work. 

Obviously, all
programs (FM, Indesign, ...) still have further individual limitations
for single objects that can be placed on a page. 

Quite interesting
banner, by the way... 

Kind regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Am
2013-05-27 19:22, schrieb Klaus Daube: 

> Dear all, 
> 
> When i want
to create a poster of 2260 x 297mm with FM and Acrobat 9.5.5 I encounter
the restriction described in fmaker43.html [1]: There must be only 32000
pixels on the longer edge of the page. Hence the resolution for such
posters can not be high. 
> For test you can access the FM-11 file at
dtp-banner.fm [2] 
> 
> Is this restriction still there in newer Acrobat
versions? 
> 
> Thank You for an answer. 
> Klaus Daube 
> 
>
~

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> Technical
documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper 
> F: +41-44-422 86 25 E:
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Re: Scaling Images

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ed, 

instead of using "impsize" you could try "dpi". This
attribute would at least respect the ratio of the imported graphic file.


The definition of "dpi" in the attlist is:
dpi NMTOKEN #IMPLIED

(as described in the STRUCTURE
APPLICATION DEVELOPER GUIDE) 

It would also produce a kind of scaling:

A graphic file originally designed for 300 dpi would have a smaller
representation if "dpi" is set to 400.
Of course, all files should have
equivalent resolution settings. 

I don't know how FrameMaker will
handle a dpi-related "size" with a PDF, though...
I have only used this
for tiff files. 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Am 2013-08-15
02:28, schrieb Ed Nodland: 

> I have 130 images created in Illustrator
and saved as PDFs 
> In my XML I have image tags such as: 
>  
> without the impsize attribute
> 
> My Read/Write rules is 
> 
>
element "img" { 
> is fm graphic element "mygraphic"; 
> attribute "src"
is fm property file; 
> attribute "width" is fm property width; 
>
attribute "height" is fm property height; 
> attribute "position" is fm
property position; 
> } 
> 
> The images saved as PDF are larger than I
want. I can add impsize attributes to all of the image tags, but I'll
have to be careful to get the width-height ratio correct. 
> 
>
Question: Is there a scale attribute to define and use or a similar
mechanism. Or, maybe someone knows how to produce scaled PDF outputs. 
>

> Thanks 
> Ed
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Re: Autonumbering Puzzle for an Ordered List Numbering Scheme

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Alex, 

the main problem is to have a bullet big enough for a
number with two digits. 

I produced a test font, where the bullet is
very big and starts below the normal font line. 

Everything else works
fine. The bullet character tag gets around -42% for the distance which
will pull the following numbered paragraph on top. 

Of course, this
will only help until you reach the number 100. 

I will send you my
examples off-list. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin


alex.lu...@sce.com: 

> Greetings, fellow Framers. 
> 
> Two of us in
the office have tried many ways to get autonumbering to work properly in
a run-in head configuration, but we're getting very strange results, no
matter what we do. 
> 
> As shown below, the autonumbering works fine up
to "9," but then goes to "01," "11," "21," and so forth. (As you can
see, we also have centering issues to eventually resolve.) 
> 
> What
you are looking at is a glyph in "Bullet" Paragraph Tag (autonumber =
B:●t). "Bullet" is a run-in paragraph. 
> 
> The next tag is "Bullet
Number" (autonumber = N:tt) or (N:tt). This is a non-run-in
paragraph. 
> 
> We've experimented with resets and changes to series
designations between the run-in and the non-run-in paragraphs, but
nothing we've tried so far has worked. The best we've managed is to
produce a "10," but the "10" appears at the beginning of the list,
followed by numbers 1 through 9, and then numbers that increment in 10s,
as before; that is, "01," "11," "21," and so forth. 
> 
> Does anyone
happen to have a solution for this? 
> 
> I would really appreciate some
help. 
> 
> I suppose it doesn't make any difference, but we are using
FrameMaker 11. 
> 
> Alex Lukes
> Communications Specialist
> T&D
Standards & Publications
> Southern California Edison 
> 
>
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Re: FrameMaker file deletion bug

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Eugene, 

sometimes I have similar problems with file visibility
in Windows Explorer of Windows 7, but not directly connected to working
with FrameMaker. I have to wait a while or restart the Explorer until
files show up (again) after moving them. 

I think, the main aspect is
that your actions cause the files to be modified. Windows 7 has some new
features for caching recent files - maybe this causes your trouble.


You might look into this: -->
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff686200.aspx 

Although I
never liked FrameMaker 9 very much, I do not think it is FM to be
blamed. 

Best regards and good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Eugene
Ingram Jr: 

> The publications department where I work has experienced
a persistent file deletion bug using Adobe FrameMaker 9 (version
9.0p255) for the past few months. The bug only occurs when opening
FrameMaker books from the network share drive in Windows 7. This network
share drive appears identical to a local drive. When copying FrameMaker
projects to the local hard-drive the problem does not occur. However,
it's essential to work off the network share drive so that other writers
see FrameMaker locked files and do not work on those files
simultaneously. 
> 
> Steps to reproduce issue follow. 
> 
> Scenario
#1: 
> 
> * Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated
FM files are contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> *
Generate a TOC.
> 
>> Result: Files in book randomly disappear from
FrameMaker project folder. After restoring the files and running the TOC
again, files randomly vanish again. I use the phrase "randomly vanish"
because which files vanish is unpredictable and constantly changing
every time the TOC is generated.
> 
> Scenario #2: 
> 
> * Open a
FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> * Highlight
all the files in the book.
> * Select View > Hide Conditional Text
Indicators.
> 
>> Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
> 
> Scenario #3: 
>

> * Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files
are contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> *
Highlight all the files in the book.
> * Select Format > Document >
Change Bars.
> * Modify any setting(s) within the Change Bars Properties
dialog box.
> * Click Set.
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Re: Printing Color Images

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ed, 

probably your colors are set to automatically separate to
CMYK in Illustrator: 

If you use a pantone library, all colors here are
by default defined as CMYK-separating colors, although a pantone value
is displayed in the color window... 

=> Set the two colors to
"spotcolor" in the color options (swatch options). A small dot will then
be visible in each color (in the swatches palette for the document).


After this, when producing a PDF, set the output option to "no color
conversion". 

The pantone colors will then have their own plates in the
pdf as spot colors. 

Pls see also: 

-->
http://karafintechteam.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/5/3/7853240/spot_color_and_adobe_illustrator.pdf


Best regards 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Ed Nodland: 

> This seems
like it should be simple and done routinely by many others. 
> 
> I have
an image of a flammable substance label. It has a pantone red, a pantone
yellow, and black. I want to use the image in a Framemaker document that
will be sent for commercial printing using "Spot Color" not process
printing. How can I accomplish this? 
> 
> The image is an Illustrator
file. I save the file to PDF, load it into Frame 10, save the Frame file
as PDF, open in acrobat pro and use Advanced > Print Production > Output
Preview to see that the image is a mix of CMYK not my spot pantone
colors. 
> 
> I also suspect that the image saved from Illustrator as a
PDF format should display the spot colors but it does not. So the
problem/solution might start there. 
> 
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Re: FM 10 not copying contents from the Windows clipboard

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Hi Linda, 

this problem seems to be common for some Adobe
applications. I have it with Indesign CS4 and old Win XP, and also with
Indesign CS6 and Win7. Fortunately, I can work for quite a long time...
Suddenly, nothing can be copied/pasted, not even text. 

In the Adobe
forums, this is vividly discussed, mostly concerning Photoshop. I did
not find any solution that seemed to be working for everybody/every
constellation. 

Some had a solution when unstalling certain plugins or
certain applications (like Skype). Others reported this to be specific
for their 64bit installation of Windows, not for a 32bit installation.
Some think the problem is related to Adobe, some think, Microsoft should
fix it. 

So, it is really hard to say what could help you. 

While
searching with "windows clipboard lock" I found something that was new
to me in Win7: The clipboard may be "emptied" with a special command
sequence. 
-->
http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-empty-the-clipboard-in-windows-7-tip/


Well, I do not know, if this works while FrameMaker is still
running... Maybe the "blocking" is stronger... 

Or: 
You could try one
of the many "Clipboard manager" utilities to see if using them can help
you out. 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Linda Rose: 

> FM 10
is not copying anything on the Windows clipboard after a while. It only
pastes the last thing copied within FM. If I restart, it works for
awhile but then stops copying from the Windows clipboard.
> 
> Anyone
know how to fix this? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Linda 
> 
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RE: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Fei Min, 

you are probably right with presuming that there is no way to apply the
"rotate page" command to more that just the actual page.
I could not find any hint about this. 

Of course you could: Remap the command to a different, shorter shortcut.
Or: Add the command to a menu.
All this would not solve your problem, I think. 

a)
One way would be to write a short program (e.g. with framescript or with
Extendscript) that lets you enter the relevant pages and either rotates
them this way or back.
(Unfortunately I am no help in writing this tool.) 

b)
I thing the best approach is to work with a rotated master page, as was
already mentioned: 

You should define one new master page with landscape orientation and a
main text frame in it in the appropriate size, in a comfortable view for
editing. It is not necessary to add headers and footers unless these
were also continuous textflows. Nor is it necessary to create different
left and right pages, as you would only use the page temporariliy. 

As you are obviously working with structured applications, this new page
should be applied to your template, so that it becomes available in each
document that you generate. 

This done, you can apply the master page to the page range where the
index is located with a single command (in the master page menu). Then
you would edit the content. The you would reapply the master pages that
are intended to be used here. Probably you have to distinguish between
right and left pages, so this time you would need two actions to get
back to the original format. 

And thats it... 

c)
Other solutions are: 
-- You could use a screen that can be rotated... I have one, but with a
configuration like this (screen rotated, content editable but not
*really* rotated), it takes some skill to move the cursor, either with a
mouse or with the arrow keys... 

-- Or you could use the landscape orientation page as a STANDARD for
your index pages and not the 8x11 inch portrait master pages. 
Depending on what the purpose is, you may then e.g. simply rotate the
pages in the final PDF as the very last step. This would also be helpful
for reviewing the content meanwhile in the PDF. In Acrobat, the rotation
is only one single command for a page range. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Fei Min Lorente: 

> Oh, I see the confusion. Okay, I have an 8.5 x 11 book, so all the pages are 
> the same size. For this appendix, the first couple of pages and the last page 
> are normal portrait. The tables in between these pages are rotated so that 
> the top is always at the left and the bottom is always at the right, but the 
> header and footer are still at the top and bottom edges (short sides of the 
> page). The master pages are applied by a structured master page map which 
> triggers on an attribute value.
> 
> If there is a quick, easily reversible way to rotate all the pages so I can 
> edit them, then rotate them all back, I'd be okay with that too. They are 
> contiguous. But I tried selecting all the pages and it only lets me highlight 
> one at a time. Maybe messing with the master page is the best option?
> 
> Fei Min
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On 
> Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM
> To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise
> 
> Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you meant 
> landscape pages.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Fei Min Lorente  
> wrote:
> 
>> I did. So they're showing up sideways, but I can't edit them that way. Do 
>> you mean unrotate the master pages and apply them temporarily so I can edit? 
>> Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com 
>> [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: 
>> Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:36 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; 
>> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate 
>> clockwise/counter-clockwise Instead of manually rotating pages, you should 
>> define a rotated master page.
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Re: Insert image as H/F variable

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Wim, 

I have seen something like that, but I dont know exactly how the trick
worked. 

It was also structured FM. The graphics were all on the reference page
in individual frames.
On the master page, there was a textflow frame with a "normal"
paragraph, no variables (I think). You would have to see that the
setting for "Frame Above Pgf" is set to the specific frame on the
reference page with the graphic needed. 

As I said, I know it is possible, but there are some things missing here
that I do not remember. At the time I worked with the files, my focus
was only on the typesetting work. 

Another option:
Similarly, instead of using the reference pages, you may put all
graphics in a font (if possible). 
For the sinchronization of H/F appearance and related chapter (or
heading) you could use a marker in the heading with just the letter that
stands for the graphic in the font The marker could be referenced on the
master page with a variable. 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp: 

> Hi, 
> 
> one of my clients wants to use images as (in) H/F variables. This can not be 
> done using default FM functions, as a variable can not contain an image. 
> 
> Has anyone handled this kind of formatting and can give me some suggestions? 
> Or may be someone has a script available to replace H/F with an image - I 
> guess an image that should be taken from the content, just like a H/F takes 
> the heading text from the content. 
> 
> Note: this is structured FM (XML, not DITA) and currently moving tom FM7 to 
> FM10/11. 
> 
> thanks, 
> 
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
> 
> Wim Hooghwinkel 
> 
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> 
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Re: Paragraph tag selection - F9 + keyboard

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Tim, 

you should always work with the fully patched version! 

Patches are available for download on the Adobe website: 

-->
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows
[1] 

You have to apply all patches successively: first 9p230, then 9p237,
then 9p250, then 9p255 -- ok? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Tim Pann: 

> I'm running Frame 9 on each of two Windows 7 laptops, which I'll call 
> computer A and computer B. 
> 
> Computer A is running version 9.0p196. (A while back it was fully updated but 
> my hard drive crashed and I had to start over.) 
> 
> Computer B is running version 9.0p255. 
> 
> My problem is that on computer A I am not able to select a paragraph tag by 
> hitting F9 and then typing the first few characters of the tag name. For 
> example, I have the following: 
> 
> b1Body1 
> 
> bu1Bullet1 
> 
> Naturally if I hit F9 then "b" it activate b1Body1. On computer B, if I enter 
> "bu" then I get to bu1Bullet1. On computer A, typing "bu" does not move me 
> from b1Body1 to bu1Bullet1. I have to use the down arrow key. 
> 
> I suspect this has to do with my version. 
> 
> So my QUICK question is, can someone help me understand what version to 
> update to from 9.0p196 to get to 255? And how to get that? 
> 
> For a full explanation of why I'm asking this question, read on. It will 
> probably give you a headache. Thank you in advance. J 
> 
> - Tim 
> 
> Continuing, the second problem I have is that I cannot download an update on 
> computer A. Upon asking Frame to look for updates, I get the following 
> message: "The update server is not responding, which means it might be 
> offline at the moment, or the Internet or firewall settings may be incorrect. 
> Please try again later." (It works fine on computer B.) 
> 
> This error occurs on my work network and at home. 
> 
> Through some logic (I don't remember actually), several weeks ago I managed 
> to download the FrameMaker_9_0_4_win.exe update. (I didn't get it on computer 
> B because computer B tells me there is no update to p255.) Anyway, when I try 
> to install this upgrade on computer A it tells me that this update is for the 
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> 
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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Cheryl, 

as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you
should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at
least. 

FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings
for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries
(EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) -
may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you
convert FM 7.2-files. 

FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still
work. 

As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following
parts/files: 

structured application definition file = structapps.fm
read/write-rules file
DTD and entity definitions
EDD
Template(s) with imported EDD 

In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary
files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest
version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the
application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the
structure-view window), without the header.
All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11. 

If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will
also be helpful for FM 11. 

Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure
application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion
on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest
versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long
time ago...). 

The FM 11 online help is here: 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html


You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here:
http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

dwyer...@verizon.net: 

> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, 
> I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created 
> structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back 
> several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the 
> XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
> 
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I 
> did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or 
> so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there 
> a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD 
> (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
> blurbs on it says it will do? 
> 
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome! 
> 
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer 
> 
> Lead Tech Writer
> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
> McLean, VA
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Re: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't

[Heiko Haida]

 

Well, it is extremely useful to have character format definitions that
leave certain issues undefined. 

The bug (old, indeed) is, that the "as is" used here is the same "as is"
that is used for redefining formats (like for para or table formats). 

It is necessary to keep this in mind when working with character
formats. You always have to put everything in that is intended to be
used. 

My advice: Make character formats as simple as possible, by defining
only the new color (here = Blue), or a new font size, or new weight. The
less properties are defined the better the format can be used. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Shmuel Wolfson: 

> This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the 
> text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a 
> display problem.
> 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote:
> 
>> FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, 
>> Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the 
>> size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a 
>> cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed 
>> the Size setting to As Is but: ·After clicking As Is, the Size control 
>> doesn't say "As Is"--it's blank. ·Hyperlink text in table footnotes is 
>> larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I 
>> didn't see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user 
>> forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your 
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Re: CMY data in PDF for JPEGs [do have workaround, but just curious]

[Heiko Haida]

 

Well, as far as I know, FrameMaker was never quite *the* dtp-tool famous
for adequate color-handling. 

The first version that does have a color management independent of the
Window GDI being capable of real CMYK colors is FM 10. So, if specific
color is needed, the best would be working with eps. 

On the other hand, the newer Acrobat versions have a built-in function
(print production tool) for "color conversion". You may set everything
e.g. to "dot-gain 15%". Dot-gain is a grayscale profile. Look on the
adobe forums for more information. 

There are other tools that provide this conversion on PDF files, like
the Quite suite or PitStop. I would always produce a color PDF first and
reduce color to grayscale in a second step. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Steve Rickaby: 

> At 12:53 -0600 13/12/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
> 
>> This may be a wild stab, but how is color management set up in your PDF 
>> .joboptions file? (In Distiller, choose "Default Settings", then Settings> 
>> Edit Adobe PDF Settings> Color tab> Color Management Policies). (May be 
>> different in your old Acrobat version) Some of those settings, as I recall, 
>> will change grayscale to color (such as "Tag Everything for Color 
>> Management). You probably want it set to "Leave Color Unchanged."
> 
> As a default I'm using 'Press Quality', which in v 6 does have color 
> management set to 'Leave color unchanged'.
> 
> My guess is that this is all something to do with FrameMaker's JPEG import 
> filters. The clue is that it does not happen for a TIFF version of any of the 
> problem images when converted from JPEG to TIFF outside of FrameMaker and 
> embedded as TIFFs. It seems to be peculiar to JPEGs.
> 
> As Sherlock Holmes used to say, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, 
> whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.' (Or something like 
> that).
> 
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Re: Page size going from FM to PDF

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Elchanan, 

I think this is your job... 

It is hard to say from the distance, but I think there may be two main
problems for printing: a) a missing trimbox and b) missing cropmarks.
This depends on the output intent and on the agreements with your print
shop. 

a) 
For printing, we are in touch with 3 print shops, all of them favor
PDF/X3 (or X4). 

I found that FrameMaker 8 does not supply valid PDF/X3 by itself -- even
with the matching Distiller profile, if it is used in "default"
configuration.
Acrobat preflight tells that all necessary "BOXES" are missing (that is
mainly the trimbox) and will stop, leaving the PDFs as useless as they
were before. 

The information about cropbox and trimbox may be essential for your
print shop. Simply cropping pages in Acrobat does not necessarily add
the correct trimbox. It will only change what you see onscreen. 

To get valid PDFs for print: 

You can either set box sizes via "pdfmark" information.
Or you change your distiller profile: go to Standard, set the
Compatibility option to PDF/X3. 
This will make the options for trimbox and cropbox available - you have
to enter the margins of your FM files without/with a suitable bleed. You
may have to try out if the result is ok -- hopefully your left/right
page setting is still working. 
(Settings here in the distiller profile will only allow one single value
for each size.) 

Finally you should always use the Acrobat preflight correction to obtain
valid PDF/X3 files!

b)
Cropmarks may also be essential for printing.
It may be a problem to supply cropmarks if the real page size and the
effective size differ (so much). I guess that FM will always place
cropmarks according to the total size = 8.5x11 in. 
If this is so, the best would be to draw the lines yourself on the
master pages of your template or to switch to another template with the
correct (final) page size. 
Some tools like PitStop may be able to put cropmarks on the PDF pages in
batch mode. 

Please also note: 
CMYK color will always be changed to different values unless you use EPS
(first FM version to handle this correctly is FM 10). If exact color is
necessary for your prints, the PDFs should be made with FM 10 (or 11). 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

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> Greetings everyone, 
> 
> I've created a book in FrameMaker, consisting of about 25 Frame files. There 
> is nothing extraordinary about the book, just chapters, mostly text, a ToC, 
> an index, and some standard front matter. Using FM 8 on Win 7. 
> 
> The book is to be printed in a 6"x9" format. In the Frame template, I used 
> 8.5 x 11 pages, then set the margins large enough, so that the text, headers, 
> footers, etc. would all fit perfectly inside a 6.9 page, including the 
> margins on the 6.9 page. I assumed that a print shop would be able to take 
> such a PDF file and put it on press on any machine that print shop has. 
> 
> Now, the print shop, with which I have no direct contact, apparently says it 
> can't use that, wants me to convert the book to 6.9 pages. I say 
> "apparently", because this is a game of telephone, and I actually have no 
> idea what the print shop actually said. Charming, eh? :)
> 
> 1. Does my assumption, namely, that a print shop should be able to take the 
> PDF I created and put it up on any reasonable press, make sense? (I ask, 
> because I need to decide whether I should "fix" this on my nickel or theirs. 
> If I'm making a reasonable assumption, then theirs; if not, then of course, 
> mine.)
> 
> 2. If I need to change the page size in FrameMaker and recreate the PDF, am I 
> better off changing the template and importing it into the existing book 
> files, or am I better off changing the template and then pasting the content 
> into the template, one chapter at a time, resaving each file as I go? Or is 
> there a third, better option? (It's a one-off project, no one is going to pay 
> to automate anything, whatever is done, will be done manually.) Also, if I 
> end up doing this, is there something special I need to know WRT Acrobat 
> settings I would use in FrameMaker? 
> 
> Thank you kindly, 
> 
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Re: Replicate groups of files

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi John, 

with FM 10 the hierarchical organisation of files in a book was added
(folders, groups, or books within books). Using a folder, group, or book
with 5 files for each scenario may help to make navigation easier. 

You would duplicate the files on the hard disk (e.g. together with a
scenario-related book) and put them into a new folder (or new book)
simultaneously. 

(A remaining question would be, of course, why you would need all files
of all scenarios in one book...) 

Best regards and Happy New Year - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com: 

> Hi, guys...
> 
> I have a book with maybe 700 files. Our product is composed of multiple
> rules, or scenarios. Each scenario has five documents.
> 
> Every time we add another scenario, maybe 20-30 per month, I replicate each
> of the five documents and add them to the book individually. What I would
> like to do is replicate a template set of the five files for each scenario
> in one action, then modify the files for the specific scenario.
> 
> Any ideas on how I could approach this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
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Re: Convert from FrameMaker to InDesign

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Elchanan, 

"easy" way: No, only "possible" (but only if certain conditions are
met). 

Please read more in the Adobe forums, eg. this quite recent posting: -->
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5497914 

I am using "Mif filter" which is quite accurate but needs some
preparation of the FM material and some reworking after conversion. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

VLM TechSubs: 

> Greetings, 
> 
> Is there an "easy" way to convert documents/books from FM to InDesign? Using 
> FM 8 and don't own InDesign, but now this client has requested this 
> conversion. MIF2Go, perhaps?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Elchanan
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Re: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Karen, 

you might also try the FM 11-mif format. FM 9 seems to open these files,
and probably thus the font information will be correct. 

(In any case, FM 9 should be patched to its last version, as the support
for the FM 7.2 "not Unicode" characters was added very late.) 

Why this once worked but not now... I have no idea. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Karen Mann: 

> Hi everyone, 
> 
> Yep, got a problem. 
> 
> Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always 
> worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 
> as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the 
> new FM 9 .fm file through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows 
> up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss 
> something… 
> 
> Anyone else having this issue? 
> 
> Thank you in advance for your efforts. 
> 
> Karen Mann 
> 
> km...@i-t-tech.com 
> 
> 262-251-9702 Ext. 111 
> 
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Re: Font issue in Framemaker 10, Windows 7, 64-bit

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Tammy, 

to check your problem I had to buy one font style, I choose the "Breuer
Text regular" font. 

Now, after checking the font info, it is clearly a mistake in the font
definition. Although the style name is "Regular", the font weight is set
to "medium". 

If this is a problem, you should contact your font dealer or the maker
of the font. Of course the setting could be modified with a font
program, but this would be against license agreements, I guess. 

best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin (Germany) 

Tammy Van Boening: 

> All, 
> 
> I am having a doozy of a time with fonts in Framemaker and I am hoping that 
> if I provide a detailed description of the problem, someone can point me in 
> the right direction. This >>SHOULD<< be Fonts 101, but I give. Here is the 
> summary: 
> 
> · I have purchased four fonts directly from the font maker. The fonts are 
> Breuer Text Regular, Breuer Text Regular Italic, Breuer Text Bold, and Breuer 
> Text Bold Italic. 
> 
> · There are other fonts in this family with "Medium" in their names, such as 
> Breuer Text Regular Medium, Breuer Text Medium Italic, etc. 
> 
> · There are 8 font styles in all in this family, and they are style-linked 
> 
> · I have purchased and installed only the four fonts that I listed in my 
> first bullet. I have not ever installed any of the Medium fonts or any of the 
> other fonts, so style-linking should not be an issue. 
> 
> · After installing these four fonts, I see this in my C:WindowsFonts 
> directory - Medium, Medium Italic, Bold, and Bold Italic. Note that the 
> Regular fonts are actually being renamed automatically to Medium upon 
> installation. I did not do this manually. 
> 
> · When I open the top level Breuer Text font folder, I see four individual 
> detailed font folders - one named Medium, one named Medium Italic, one named 
> Bold and one named Bold Italic. 
> 
> · If I open either of the Medium folders, the file name in the title bar 
> still reads as BreuerText-Regular. otf or BreuerTextItalic-Regular. 
> 
> · When I create a paragraph tag in FM named BodyItalic, I select Breuer Text 
> as the Font Family, and then for the angle, I select Italic, which should 
> just switch the Regular font with the Regular Italic font, but boom. . . the 
> weight is also set to Bold immediately. For the weight characteristic, there 
> is a Regular option, so I try to select that and click Update All, but the 
> angle is immediately reset to Bold and I cannot change it. Anytime I try to 
> set the angle for any paragraph tag that uses the Breuer text to Italic, FM 
> automatically sets the weight to Bold as well. 
> 
> · I opened a Word doc., typed in some text in Breuer text, and then manually 
> applied the Italic character. In Word, the text is only italicized. It is NOT 
> bolded. I have to manually apply the Bold in Word. 
> 
> · If I use just Regular Breuer text in FM, and don't screw with the angle, 
> the weight remains Regular. It does not get bolded. 
> 
> I have tried rebooting, clearing my font cache, rebooting again and I still 
> this issue in Framemaker with this danged Breuer text. I tried uninstalling 
> the Breuer text, clearing my font cache, reinstalling and still the same 
> issue. The Regular text gets loaded and installed with "Medium" in the name 
> in the Fonts directory and in FM., anytime I try to italicize a paragraph 
> tag, it gets bolded as well. 
> 
> This is really screwing up my docs., obviously, as I don't want all 
> italicized text to be bolded. 
> 
> Any and all advice is sincerely appreciated. 
> 
> Tammy Van Boening 
> 
> Owner/Principal 
> 
> Spectrum Writing, LLC 
> 
> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com 
> 
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com 
> 
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RE: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character problems

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Fei Min, 

you can not produce a character above 255 (decimal) = 00FF (hexadec.)
without "modding" your Windows. 

If you absolutely want to use the "alt + ..." for Unicode characters,
you have to set the key value of "HKEY_CURRENT_USERControl PanelInput
MethodEnableHexNumpad" to "1". 

For more information how to use this, please see: -->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input 
in the section: 
"Hexadecimal code input" -->" In Microsoft Windows" 

This is a very useful little trick! 

- 

If your colleague still gets a question mark, I think it is because a
font is applied (for whatever reason that may be...) that does not
contain this character.

Best regards -

Tino H. Haida, Berlin

 Fei Min Lorente: 

> Thank you for the directions to the Character Palette. That works for me, but 
> my colleague is still getting a question mark when she tries to insert the 
> infinity symbol. There's obviously something wrong with her setup. 
> 
> Yes, the Character Palette is crude, so it really helped to know that 221E 
> would get me the infinity symbol; otherwise I could spend all day looking for 
> it, and still miss it. 
> 
> Also, thanks for this site, Robert: 
> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/221e/index.htm [1]. It's very 
> thorough, and it was reassuring to know that the infinity symbol is available 
> in Trebuchet, which is the font we're using. 
> 
> Fei Min 
> 
> FROM: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
> SENT: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:39 PM
> TO: Lise Bible; Fei Min Lorente
> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character 
> problems 
> 
> Windows Character Map should work, but not all systems have it installed. My 
> company's IT department, for example, does not include it in the standard 
> corporate desktop image. But the necessary executable *is* present in all 
> Windows 7 system installations, and you can install it as a "Windows 
> component" from the Add Programs control panel tool.
> 
> But as of FM9, FrameMaker itself has a similar (albeit *very* crude 
> looking...) tool built in. Go to Edit>Utilities>Character Palette. And if you 
> know the Unicode character number, you can also use File>Utilities>Hex Input, 
> whihc is even cruder looking than the Character Palette (if that is possible).
> 
> -Fred Ridder 
> 
> -
> 
> From: rentagoodb...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:11:54 -0600
> Subject: Re: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character 
> problems
> To: feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
> 
> Fei Min, 
> 
> I'm on Frame 8, so I have no solutions for Frame 10, but have you tried using 
> Windows Character Map (under Programs>Accessories>System Tools) as a 
> workaround? I was able to find and copy the ∞ symbol from there. 
> 
> Not a terribly elegant solution, but an alternative to copy/paste from 
> Word... 
> 
> -Lise 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Fei Min Lorente  
> wrote: 
> 
> I'm working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and I cannot insert the infinity 
> symbol. According to the FrameMaker character set documentation, it is 
> Unicode 221E, but perhaps all that information is obsolete now. In any case, 
> I tried holding down Alt while I pressed +221e, and all I got was the Edit 
> menu. I can't find a keyboard shortcut for it. I resorted to getting the 
> symbol in Word and copying and pasting it into FrameMaker, but seriously, is 
> that what I have to do? Or do I have to create an equation and insert the 
> symbol? 
> 
> My colleague is also working in FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and she can't use 
> the keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-q shift-8 to get a TM symbol). She gets 
> other characters instead. She's resorted to copying and pasting from Word, 
> and those all work except for the infinity symbol. All the information I've 
> found on the internet has been for FrameMaker 7 or older. Can anyone tell me 
> what to do for FrameMaker 10? 
> 
> Fei Min Lorente 
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Re: "Unable to allocate ... bytes for color profile"

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Robert, 

after a web search for "setdistillerparams color profile" I found some
interesting results, like this: 

--> http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/error-pdf-printer-failed-to.html 

Maybe it is simple and you only need to install or re-install this
specific color profile in your system... 

Or: Color profiles should be embedded in the graphics files, so you may
check this (after finding out which file causes the error, as Steve
Rickeby wrote). 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Robert CH Shell: 

> Dear Framers:
> Any clues what went wrong here?
> 
> %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: setdistillerparams ]%%
> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
> Unable to allocate 557168 bytes for color profile U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 
> %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
> 
> I so wish there was a pre-flight check for FM. Even the despised PageMaker
> had one.
> This error cost me 7 hours of precious computer time. Waits till end before
> error message~acronym~ WEBEM
> 
> Rob Shell
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> rsh...@uwc.ac.za
> shell.robert@gmail.com
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Re: Structured FM 11 Font management issue

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Brenda, 

as far as I can see you mentioned all relevant parts that lead to a
specific formatting in a XML workflow.
Pls also check the r/w-rules, there may be (older, non-Unicode)
definitions expecially directing the output for symbol fonts. 

Now, if you had a "clean" workflow - EDD and template - the font
information would correctly be Courier new or ITC Dingbats. 

The notification shows that Courier/ZapfDingbats are still "somewhere"
and will come up every time you convert an XML file to a Frame file.
This information is not part of the XML file, so it must still be in
your template: What happens if you open it? You may convert the template
to "mif" and check if the fonts are still defined (open it with a text
editor). As the template and therefore the "mif" file also contains all
EDD definitions, this should make clear where the problem is. 

Concerning the ZapfDingbats font: Probably the template has been
reworked with a FrameMaker where the entry in the maker.ini was NOT
present... 

Now, if you change e.g. this one entry in the maker.ini to: 

Zapfdingbats, *,*= ITC Zapf Dingbats Std,*,* 

as you mentioned, this may help for the Frame publications you produce,
but you would still get this message every time, which is quite
annoying. 

So it is better to find out about the template... 

There are 3 main issues here: 
(1) If you changed the EDD, it must be re-imported into the template.
(2) A change in the FrameMaker formats must always be done via the
"update all" command, otherwise the definition will not really be
affected.
(3) There may be formats on the master pages (that are not in the format
list) or formattings defined in the EDD eg. for prefixes or suffixes
that are not easily found. A text search in the mif file should show
everything. 

Btw, as far I can see, all characters in ZapfDingbats are on ANSI
positions whereas in the ITC font all relevant characters are on their
Unicode positions - maybe this will not work as expected if you only
change the font but not the character encoding information (eg. via
r/w-rules). 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

George, Brenda (CAI): 

> My office recently upgraded to FrameMaker 11 in a Windows 7 environment. We 
> previously used FrameMaker 8 | Windows XP. 
> 
> We are in the process of replacing the following fonts: 
> 
> Courier 
> 
> Zapf Dingbats 
> 
> With the following: 
> 
> Courier New 
> 
> ITC Zapf Dingbats Std Medium 
> 
> I am having problems with Zapf Dingbats being replaced with ITC Zapf Dingbats 
> Std Medium. I have used the FrameMaker 11 fonts pod to update these fonts for 
> all of the appropriate FrameMaker files. 
> 
> We use an automated process to create the FrameMaker files. The process 
> involves importing XML feeds into Structured FrameMaker 11 using an automated 
> process. After the XML has been imported, it is fully formatted in FrameMaker 
> 11. After I select the xml file to import and the automated process is about 
> to import the xml file into FrameMaker 11, the FrameMaker console is 
> displaying this message: 
> 
> The "Zapfdingbats" font is not available. 
> 
> It will be replaced by "AdobePiStd". 
> 
> The "Zapfdingbats" font is not available. 
> 
> It will be replaced by "AdobePiStd". 
> 
> The "Courier" font is not available. 
> 
> It will be replaced by "Courier New". 
> 
> When I view the fonts in this newly created FrameMaker 11 file in the font 
> pod, the "AdobePiStd" font is displayed as part of the fonts in this file. I 
> did update the Zapf Dingbats occurrences in the FrameMaker template to ITC 
> Zapf Dingbats Std Medium and I updated all of the other systems files as 
> well. I did update the FrameMaker Edd. 
> 
> I looked at the maker.ini file and I noticed the following code: 
> 
> ; Font Entries Added in Frame 8 due to Font Set Changes 
> 
> Zapfdingbats, *,*= Adobe Pi Std,*,* 
> 
> In the automated process that I am using, when the xml feed is about to be 
> imported is this line of code causing FrameMaker 11 to override the font 
> changes that I made to all of the FrameMaker 11 files? Should I change this 
> line of code to this in order to fix the problem: 
> 
> Zapfdingbats, *,*= ITC Zapf Dingbats Std,*,* 
> 
> Any help that you can give me will be appreciated. 
> 
> Brenda George 
> 
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Re: TOC Failure

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Alison, 

this is a problem that I very often have: My colleagues are using the
English installation of FrameMaker which uses name extensions like TOC,
SIX, and para formats like "body", and so on, whereas my German Frame
uses IVZ, IX, "Haupttext", and so on. 

My installation does not always recognize generated files coming from
the English version. 
This is very annoying, and when I re-generate, the standard para formats
(German name is not "LevelTOC" but "EbeneIVZ"!) do not exist in the file
and will come up with a useless standard formatting. Furthermore, some
reference pages will not be found, which especially applies for index
generation. So its much work then to recover files and formatting... 

You better take care that all colleagues are using the same installation
language (preferably English). FrameMaker comes with a multi-language
installer, but of course normally those with the "wrong" language have
to re-install their FrameMaker. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig, Alison: 

> I received a request for help from my counterparts at a sister company in 
> Denmark. I know they are running unstructured Frame 9 and should be all 
> patched at this point. At least one system is a 64 bit Windows 7 Pro machine. 
> 
> The issue is a TOC file that is no longer a TOC file. It's simply registering 
> as a regular FM file in the book, although it used to be a proper TOC file 
> that updated just fine when required. 
> 
> Can anyone tell me: 
> 
> · why - and how - would a TOC file stop being a TOC file? 
> 
> · short of simply recreating a new TOC file, is there a way to salvage the 
> existing file and turn it back into an updatable TOC? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Alison 
> 
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RE: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Stephen, 

well, I have been working for translation companies for more than 15
years (DTP). There are two ways to handle this: 

a) mif files are supplied for translation, mif files are returned (no
dtp involved). This is best if you can handle all dtp yourself.
It is necessary to know which mif version (which FM version) is used,
that is most important. 

b) Frame files are supplied and a dtp step is involved for preparation. 
In this case, it is preferable to have all details about the layout and
design rules communicated. Fonts should be supplied, graphics should be
supplied (they might also contain text btw). 
If you want to get the translations back fully layouted (or get PDFs
ready to publish), you should make sure that your source files are
accurate in the way the layouts are set and formats and typography are
used, so that no one has to guess what was originally intended. 

As you can see, b) may need a lot of communication, preparation and data
transfer in both directions. It may of course be useful, but it only
makes sense if there is a certain (recurring) amount of text to be
translated, or if languages are involved where you can not provide the
proper typesetting yourself. 

Regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig, Alison: 

> Stephen: 
> 
> For the past 8 years, I've managed a significant number of translation 
> projects and I've never heard of the customer having to provide MIF files to 
> a translation bureau. 
> 
> Are they also returning the files to you in MIF format? If so, this means the 
> translation bureau has not opened and tested the finished Frame files - an 
> important step in a properly run translation project. 
> 
> Can I ask who your translation bureau is? I can recommend a couple that do 
> excellent work and are very competitive on pricing. 
> 
> Alison 
> 
> ALISON CRAIG | TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION LEAD 
> 
> Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | 
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> 
> T 604-279-8550 EXT 127 | F 604-279-8559 
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> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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> SENT: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:03 AM
> TO: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
> SUBJECT: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format? 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> (FM9, Windows 7) 
> 
> I have a book of 40 files, graphics imported by reference; no text insets. 
> 
> The translation company want me to provide files in MIF format. I am 
> surprised that Trados does not accept the files in .FM format. Is this 
> normal? 
> 
> I have never created MIF files before. At least, it seems like a long manual 
> process. Is there a plug-in that does a complete book? I imagine the graphic 
> files remain linked by reference. 
> 
> Any comments are much appreciated. BTW, we plan to upgrade to FM 12 very 
> soon. Would that help (not have to convert to MIF?). 
> 
> Have a good day, 
> 
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Re: Using pdfs in Frame12...cue some spooky music

[Heiko Haida]

 

Well, FrameMaker is not a very reliable and handy tool for editing
graphics.
There may be better and more accurate tools for this like Adobe
Illustrator. 

Concerning your question about cropping: 

a) The easiest way would be to work with pixel-related formats like
tiff, not with postscript-formats like eps or pdf. 

b) If cropping is not effective throughout the whole workflow on a pdf,
you may simply place the whole pdf in a frame as described in step (4),
but then reduce the size of the frame according to the requested
cropping. 

c) There may be tools that can crop postscript information. 
I once worked with Quite Imposing to produce a booklet and found that
postscript information from the original pdf that had been (invisible)
outside the page frame was in fact completely removed in the booklet.
Maybe somebody else in the forum has a good idea how to deal with it. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Theresa de Valence: 

> 1a. The original pdf is an outline drawing from google maps done in 
> Generic CAD. As part of that process, the original pdf also had a title, 
> a ruler to measure the map in increments, and some notes at the bottom.
> 
> 1b. This drawing was cropped using Adobe Acrobat XI tools which removed 
> the title, ruler and notes.
> 
> 2a. The second file is a Frame 12 document which imported the cropped 
> pdf from Item 1 onto the master page.
> 
> 2b. On the body page of the Frame document are some hundreds of numbers 
> (dots on the map).
> 
> 2c. This looks just great in Frame and prints properly.
> 
> 3. Save as pdf in Frame brings the uncropped image from Item 1a as part 
> of the pdf from 2c.
> 
> 4. The pdf generated in item 3 will be inserted as an anchored frame in 
> a new document.
> 
> How to fix # 3, i.e. to get the cropped file to stay cropped? 
> Following that, I'll have to figure out how to accomplish #4--which may 
> not be a problem if I can fix # 3.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Theresa
> 
> (This is reprinted from Adobe Frame & Acrobat forums...because there are 
> a lot of wise people here)
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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ken, 

in FM 12 you can define object formats which can be used along with the
import of graphics. (Maybe this is also possible in FM 11...). 

So, with activated option "use object style", you would automatically
apply a pre-defined format to the graphic, lets say a 0.5pt line and
runaround options = zero. 

About the tables: 

You may use an anchored frame as before and first put a text frame
inside filling it 100% (width). This text frame could hold any table you
want. And btw: A table can have a title at the bottom, so there is no
need to have a second row. You could display the figure no. as redefined
table no., which would go along with the table format (and para format
used here) automatically. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Ken Poshedly: 

> I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
> my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
> just doesn't work for me,
> 
> We produce operator and other manuals for a heavy equipment manufacturing 
> company using FrameMaker 11.0 on a Windows XP plaform.
> 
> 1. Is there a way to force a certain width line border around all imported 
> graphics as they are brought in?
> 
> 2. Is there a more "elegant" way to insert a sequential figure number than 
> how my company currently does it?
> 
> Background for question 1:
> The procedure here for inserting images is to first insert a right-aligned 
> anchored frame 3.25 in. wide. That frame is set to "Run into Paragraph" and 
> as already stated, "Right Aligned"; it is anchored to its procedural text to 
> the left, so if its procedural text is deleted or moved, that anchored frame 
> goes with it. 
> 
> I then import by reference an subject image inside that anchored frame, scale 
> it to 2.75 in. wide and then right-align it inside that anchored frame. (The 
> height of the subject image, of course, then dictates the height of the 
> anchored frame, but that's no problem.) That leaves a 0.50 inch margin 
> between the left side of the subject image and the left side of the anchored 
> frame.
> 
> The reason for the anchored frame, by the way, is to artificially force the 
> procedural text for that subject graphic into a one-column format. Yes, I'm 
> one of the few who still believes that a true two-column format should be 
> used throughout a book (whether or not there are images on the right), but my 
> NOT tech writing or page layout-sophisticated supervisor believes all white 
> space on a page needs to be used. Thus, most pages wind up with a mix of 
> one-column and two-column layouts. (Those paragraphs not accompanied by a 
> graphic are full-page-width, while those paragraphs with a graphic are 
> artificially left-column-width. Pretty sloppy to my way of thinking.)
> 
> Anyway . . . after importing, positioning and scaling the subject image as 
> described above, I left-click on it (the image, not the anchored frame) and 
> use the Graphics toolbox icons to select a solid black border that is 0.5 pt 
> in width because all images (referenced or embedded) import "naked" (with no 
> line border). 
> 
> So CAN a line border with a predefined width be set so we don't have to do it 
> for every image? (Of course anchored frames with images that are used 
> repeatedly are simply copied and pasted wherever required and they retain 
> their size and border attributes.)
> 
> Background for question 2:
> 
> After the image is imported, positioned, sized and "bordered", a small text 
> box is also placed inside the anchored frame but directly below the subject 
> image and left-aligned with its left border. The empty paragraph marker 
> within that little text box is then tagged "section graphic counter"; it is 
> set to then automatically display the word "Fig." and the applicable chapter 
> and sequential figure number separated by a hyphen. For example, "Fig. 1-2". 
> Surely you get the idea.
> 
> That little text box is a problem because one has to eyeball its placement to 
> make sure it's not too close and not too far from its subject graphic and 
> that it is perfectly left-aligned with the left border of its subject 
> graphic. Then the subject graphic's runaround props must be set to "Do not 
> runaround" or else no graphic counter text appears inside the little text 
> box.What a damn pain in the . . .!
> 
> Note that we do also use full-page-width images and in those cases, I simply 
> insert a two-row, single-column table, stretch it to full-page-width, import 
> and center the image into the top row (or "cell"), tag the empty paragraph 
> marker inside row 2 as "section graphic counter" and the result is as 
> described above (left-aligned text with "Fig. 1-2" or whatever), but without 
> having to create another funky little text box.
> 
> I toyed with creating a one-column, two-row, right-aligned table to use this 
> method for single-column-width graphics, but FrameMaker doesn't allow text to 
> the left of a table (a

RE: Reproducible FM12 file corruption?

[Heiko Haida]

 

BTW, repeating this "format - save - undo" operation will kind of toggle
the side heads on and off again, both on the body pages and the master
page. 

T.Haida 

Rick Quatro: 

> Confirmed here as well.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> r...@frameexpert.com
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:31 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Reproducible FM12 file corruption?
> 
> I've been seeing occasional wonkiness (yes, I know... it's a technical term)
> since upgrading from FM10 to TCS5 (FM12), but I think I have narrowed at
> least one of them down to the point where the behavior is reproducible on
> demand, but I'll be darned if I know what is triggering it.
> 
> Let's find out if it's just my installation/environment or if it affects
> others.
> 
> I'm running TCS5 under Windows 7, 64-bit Enterprise.
> 
> To try to eliminate character & paragraph format catalog issues and template
> anomalies, once I was able to reproduce the behavior, I tried doing the same
> in a generic FM file, and am also seeing the behavior there, so that's what
> I'm going to walk through. I've included screenshots of what I see along the
> way.
> 
> 1. Create a new file using the default "Portrait" blank paper.
> 
> http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-1.png [1]
> 
> 2. Copy in a few paragraphs of generic text (I use www.lipsum.com [2]).
> 
> http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-2.png [3]
> 
> 3. Save the file.
> 
> 4. Place your cursor in one of the paragraphs.
> 
> 5. In the Paragraph Designer, change the Spread to 1% and hit Enter to
> "Apply".
> 
> http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-3.png [4]
> 
> 6. Save the file.
> 
> 7. Press Ctrl+z to undo.
> 
> 8. WHAMMO! 
> 
> http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-4.png [5]
> 
> On my system, the margins change completely, as if room for side heads was
> added. In my main working file it also put footnotes in the middle of pages.
> 
> Also, it's not just any kind of change prior to a save and then undo that
> triggers the corruption. Simple text edits do not trigger it, however
> changes in the paragraph and character designers do. It's not just font
> attributes, but changing paragraph attributes and applying them, followed by
> a save and undo will also trigger the corruption. Changing the color of
> selected text via the tool palette, save, undo, will also trigger it.
> 
> It appears to be the sequence of (1) anything involving changing
> *ATTRIBUTES* of text, (2) a save, and (3) an immediate undo, that triggers
> it. If I do the above steps without a save, the undo does not cause the
> corruption. It's as if reverting to a pre-save state makes FM go haywire.
> 
> Now that I know what triggers the page going nuts, I now know what to avoid
> doing. I would experience this periodically since I'm a save-monkey, and
> wouldn't know what the heck was going on.
> 
> Bizarre.
> 
> Dan Harding
> Technical Editorial Specialist
> University of Illinois Tax School
> ___
 

Links:
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[1] http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-1.png
[2] http://www.lipsum.com
[3] http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-2.png
[4] http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-3.png
[5] http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-4.png
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Re: Removing custom row heights

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi, 

the table row format options can only applied individually and are not
accessed via a format list (afaik). 

You could write a script (Framescript or ExtendScript) to change all
rows to specific values. 

(In ExtendScript, the objects are called "RowMaxHeight" and
"RowMinHeight".) 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida 

Mike Wickham: 

> I don't know if this is what the original poster meant, but Table> Format> 
> Row Format lets you set minimum and maximum row heights for tables.
> 
> Mike Wickham
> 
> On 7/6/2014 9:55 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: 
> 
>> What do you mean by custom row heights?
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RE: Removing custom row heights

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Craig, 

this kind of manipulation via MIF sounds like a very good idea. I did
not check, but I am pretty sure this would work. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida 

Craig Ede: 

> I wasn't suggesting a table by table approach, but a search and replace 
> approach of the kind Shmuel describes. Framemaker could do the search and 
> replace, but Notepad++ is a lot more efficient. 
> 
> Notepad++ seems to work using search and replace as follows (for all tables). 
> You could restrict it to the particular table setting you want removed if 
> you'd like. 
> 
> Use the regular expression option. 
> 
> Set Find to  
> 
> Set Replace to  
> 
> If you cut & paste a  line from the mif, you'll get the 
> right space and tick marks. 
> 
> Here's a JPG showing the options selected in Notepad++. Do a Find Next to 
> make sure you are getting what you want and then do a replace all. Retain a 
> copy of your original file. 
> 
> Note that you can do the replace on a whole series of open documents. 
> 
> Craig 
> 
> FROM: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] 
> SENT: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:42 AM
> TO: Craig Ede; Framers
> SUBJECT: Re: Removing custom row heights 
> 
> Yes, but this could take a long time if you have a lot of tables with a lot 
> of rows. 
> 
> However, if you do the search and replace using a text editor that supports 
> regular expressions (Notepad++, etc.) this could be a good solution. The 
> regular expression to search for would be "RowMinHeight [0-9]*.[0-9]*" 
> (without the quotes) and replace with RowMinHeight 0.
> 
> Shmuel Wolfson
> 
> Technical Writer
> 
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On 07-Jul-14 7:12 PM, Craig Ede wrote: 
> 
>> I set the row heights to zero, which I believe is the default. FrameMaker 
>> seems to take things over from there using the current paragraph tag to set 
>> the height to the minimum without obscuring text. 
>> 
>> If all your custom settings are the same (for example: "1.56789") you can do 
>> a simple search and replace in the mif. 
>> 
>> Replace: 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> with 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It looks to me like you could reset all tables by just removing the 
>>  line from the mif. That would require a more 
>> sophisticated find value that used wildcards (or regexp) 
>> 
>> Try this on a copy of a file and see if that works for you. 
>> 
>> Craig 
>> 
>> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Christenson, Pat
>> SENT: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:36 PM
>> TO: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> SUBJECT: Removing custom row heights 
>> 
>> Almost all our tables have custom row heights - ugh! Does anyone know of a 
>> way to global reset the row heights to the defaults? I can't find anything 
>> in FrameMaker so I'm wondering if there's an add-on for it. 
>> 
>> FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 Professional 
>> 
>> Thanks! 
>> 
>> Pat Christenson 
>> 
>> Resource Coordinator 
>> 
>> Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications 
>> 
>> pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
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Re: Structured Framemaker

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Rebecca, 

you have to tell FrameMaker to work with a "structapps.fm" in a location
different than the program folder.
The necessary command is in the "maker.ini" -- which itself is also in
the FM folder, unfortunately. 

But you can overwrite this general "maker.ini" with commands in your own
"maker.ini"-file. FrameMaker uses a second file with your personal
settings which is placed here: 

C:Users*Your User-Name*AppDataRoamingAdobeFrameMaker11 

Put in your user name (or login name) and find the folder on your
harddrive. Probably the user section is on drive c: (it could be on any
other accessible drive). 

Now, in this maker.ini there should already be a section [Directories].
If not, copy this section header with the square brackets into the file,
just before another section starts. 

Add the following command:
StructureDir=*Your Directory* 

*Your Directory* can be anywhere on your harddrive where you have the
right to change files. 

First, you also have to put a copy of a "structapps.fm" file into this
directory, otherwise FM still refers to the default path. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Frasure, Rebecca - APHIS: 

> Windows 7, Framemaker 11 
> 
> I have no admin privileges on my computer. How can I make edits to the 
> structapps file? I know there is a workaround, but I don't remember what it 
> was. 
> 
> Thanks very much for anyone's help. 
> 
> Rebecca Frasure 
> 
> Editorial Assistant 
> 
> USDA-APHIS-PPQ-RPM-ISMU 
> 
> 92 Thomas Johnson Drive, Suite 200 
> 
> Frederick, MD 21702-4593 
> 
> phone: 240-529-0353 
> 
> fax: 240-529-0399 
> 
> rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov
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Re: Quoted speech

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Theresa, hi Lin, 

this problem is known for older versions of FrameMaker, where it was
necessary to replace these characters in MIF. 

FM 8 is the first version to understand Unicode and to distinguish these
characters well. 

But, apart from this technical matter, I am wondering about the choice
of the apostrophe for all quotes. 

AFAIK, the opening single character in English docs would be Alt+145,
the closing single character is Alt+146. You should not use one
character in both cases. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Lin Sims: 

> I'm surprised. Frame's usually so good about finding those weird things.
> 
> OK, this part I'm not sure will work, but according to the help.adobe.com [1] 
> website, you can search for Unicode characters using their UTF-8 hex code and 
> x.
> 
> So for your first character, in the Find box, type 'xCABB' (without the quote 
> characters. For your second character, type 'xCABC' (without the quote 
> characters. (I got the UTF-8 hex codes from 
> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode [2]).
> 
> I don't have any files using those codes, so I can't test it. :( 
> 
> Let me know if it works so I can put it into my bag of tricks, too. 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> 
> On 7/30/2014 11:58 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the "Find" box,
> then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then click
> Change All, making sure Book is selected. For me that doesn't quite work. 
> There's something in Frame which decides a curved apostrophe is the same as 
> an uncurved apostrophe.

-- 
Lin Sims 

Links:
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[1] http://help.adobe.com
[2] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode
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Re: File not appearing in Set Structured Application dropdown

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Angela, 

I am not sure if I understand what you are expecting. 

If there is a "department rule", those department guys should tell you
what to do exactly - it seems they know something. 

Ok, now, you say: "When I try to select my file from the Set Structured
Application dropdown...". 

Well, you do not select a file there. This option will apply the
settings of one of the structured applications (defined in the
"structapps.fm") to an open xml file, so that FrameMaker knows how to
handle this file, parse with which DTD, use which entities and so on. 

Maybe you can specify your problem more accurately. 

(Or: Maybe you should get a good introduction in working with structured
FrameMaker first.) 

Good luck - Tino Haida, Berlin 

angela.fos...@daimler.com: 

> Hi There, 
> 
> I'm a longtime Unstructured Frame user but am new to Structured. Per 
> department rules, I added a folder in the following location: 
> 
> Program FilesAdobeAdobeFrameMaker11xml 
> 
> When I try to select my file from the Set Structured Application dropdown, it 
> doesn't appear. The folder and files are in the xml folder though. I 
> restarted Frame and restarted my computer just to make sure. 
> 
> What am I missing? 
> 
> Thanks much for the help! 
> 
> Angela
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Re: Getting a handle on structured Frame (DITA)

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Theresa, 

although this will not help you at the moment: Structured authoring is
not like loading a new and maybe a little bit strange template from
somewhere and thats it. 

It is a completely different approach of thinking. 

There are tons of books about this and all of them say: Take your
time... First step: Define your structural needs. Them: Implement a
suitable DTD (or Schema) and adjust your tools and processes. 

The advice is to calculate at least one year for this, before the actual
work could start (you are already worried about a few days...). 

The main strength of structured writing is the reliability and the
flexibility (if everything is well done) - of course we are talking of
hundreds and thousands of documents. 

The main problem is: There are cases when the structure is either too
narrow or too loose, and most authors do not know how to adjust the DTD
but would sort of bend the material or misuse structural elements, thus
weakening the aforementioned strength. 

So, I definitely agree with Rick: You should start thinking about your
own DTD first and then compare this with DITA or any other made-up DTD. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida 

Theresa de Valence: 

> On 8/13/2014 11:21 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> 
>> XML for sure, and personally I'd use DITA. DITA for 3 reasons .. 1) the 
>> implementation of DocBook support has problems, and that may cause you 
>> trouble down the line, 2) you'll likely find more options for DITA support 
>> in the techcomm space, and 3) I like DITA better than DocBook :)
> 
> OK, conceptually, I understand the value of dividing each part of the 
> document into a single-purpose element and that DITA might be better 
> than the mishmash of DocBook. However, when I look at the DITA 
> applications in structapps.fm, I cannot tell which application is used 
> for plain ordinary text (i.e. what consitutes ). How does one use 
> DITA for:
> --Book
> Chapter
> --Section
> Body
> 
> Is this what the DITA map is?
> [And here I thought we were going to have geographical maps in the book 
> 8-) ]
> 
> Thanks,
> Theresa
> P.S. I have ordered XML AND FRAMEMAKER by Kay Ethier but it won't be 
> here for several days
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Re: Latest Structured Application Guides - FM12

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Philomena, 

that is most welcome, thank you. 

One technical detail: The file description (document properties) still
shows FM9 in both cases: 

FrameMaker 9.0 Structure Application Developer's Guide
FrameMaker 9.0 Structure Application Developer Reference. 

Maybe this could be fixed to avoid misunderstandings. 

Best regards - Tino Haida, Berlin 

Philomena Dolla: 

> Hi, 
> 
> We've updated the structured application developer guides to include features 
> from FrameMaker 11 and 12. 
> 
> The guides are now available online: 
> 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf
>  [1] 
> 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/12.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Guide.pdf
>  [2] 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Philomena
 

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[2]
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Re: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Craig, 

whatever the theoretical and technical differences of RGB and CMYK
colours are: 

The FrameMaker RGB output of CMYK-colours is not even close to how the
CMYK output looks like. I am (still) using FM 10, btw. 

Therefore I always produce CMYK pdfs first and use Acrobat preflighting
to get correct RGB pdfs (even if these pdfs are only for the screen).
The other way round would not work at all: 
The "interpretation" of colours in the RGB output by FrameMaker is quite
strange (a colleague who only uses Indesign called these colours
"tawdry"). 

I am very glad that FM 10 (unlike FM 12) still seems to work with my
CMYK graphic files and CMYK colours.
I hope that as part of the Adobe products family, FrameMaker will soon
be able to handle colours like Indesign does, with colour profiles and
direct (error-free) PDF-X3/PDF-X4 compatible output. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig Ede: 

> Do you need the CMYK option checked? (In other words, are you sending your
> PDF out to a service bureau using a high-quality printer so it can be
> printed and bound? That's usually why people are checking the CMYK option.)
> 
> From some of the discussion here, I get the idea that people think CMYK is
> just something you pick on a whim. And in response to an earlier comment
> that CMYK affects color vividness in the PDF, that happens because CMYK is
> limited to producing colors by mixing printing inks (a subtractive process
> that is quite different from the additive mixing of pixels on the screen,
> i.e. RGB). 
> 
> Additive mixing produces white by its max values (256,256,256). Mixing C, M,
> and Y inks at max values produces black (albeit not a lovely black, which is
> why the K is there).
> 
> If your PDF is only going to the screen or a cheap printer (with minimal
> control of the color space desired), then RGB is fine and choosing CMYK is
> really not a smart idea since it takes much longer to distill and would have
> little or no benefit.
> 
> Craig
> P.S. Forgive any simplifications in the above. CMYK printing is a rather
> complex issue.
> P.P.S. The color space that can be produced by Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and K
> (black) printing inks on paper is much more restricted than the color space
> produced by RGB pixels on a computer screen. If you've ever mixed watercolor
> paint you know that you can't mix colors with pigment that result in colors
> that are lighter or more vivid than the colors you start with. Any mixing
> reduces both the value (lightness/darkness) as well as the vividness
> (saturation) of the color. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
> (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:32 PM
> To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: RE: PDF query
> 
> Same here with "Save as PDF", except that with FM 12, it seems that I also
> need to select the "RGB" checkbox option to make it work correctly. The
> "CMYK" option does _not_ work properly.
> 
> I will see if I can find the test documents I sent to Adobe and post them
> here later ...
> 
> Z
> 
> Robert Lauriston said:
> 
>> At least from FM6 on, I had zero problems with Save as PDF so long as
> 
> Distiller / Adobe PDF was selected as the printer and I used the same file
> name as the .book I was saving.
> 
> Mike Wickham wrote:
> 
>> Actually, Frame print to PDF was the gold standard. Save as PDF was so
> 
> buggy that all experts recommended against using it.
> 
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RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

[Heiko Haida]

 

Well, Craig, 

thats easy to explain: 
When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen
representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That
is not a miracle or a question of "who knows" (these programs use HSB
definitions, and obviously the conversion works very well).
With FrameMaker, on the other hand, a CMYK colour will not look "right"
neither on screen nor in the resulting PDF. 
And only with the CMYK print option activated that has been implemented
successfully with FM 10, this colour information will be transfered to
the PDF correctly. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig Ede: 

> Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB 
> output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. 
> 
> Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd 
> expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the 
> screen, who knows? It's be "close" but depends on the color correctness of 
> the particular monitor.
> 
> Craig
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RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Jacob, 

my point here is:
The CMYK option in FM is not something like a fancy gadget (that is how
I understood what Craig said earlier), but essential for a correct
colour representation in certain constellations. 

Here is an example, I enclose a screenshot: 2 rectangular objects are
visible, with colours defined as CMYK = 100/70/0/0 and 100/0/20/20. 

To the left, that is the (correct) representation in Illustrator. To the
right, thats what it looks like in FrameMaker (obviously not "correct").
In the middle that is the PDF output with the CMYK option not activated
(which is the standard - and only possible - behaviour of all older FM
version up to FM 10). 

With the CMYK option activated on the other hand, the PDF output would
in fact look exactly like in Illustrator.
And if this PDF is converted afterwards to RGB via Acrobat preflight,
the colours would still be perfect on screen. 

If you know a better or easier way or working settings for FM or
Acrobat, please tell me. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Jacob Schäffer: 

> It's definitely NOT easy to explain this. Color conversions are COMPLEX. 
> Anyway, RGB -> CMYK conversion is lossy, and CMYK -> RGB is also lossy. 
> 
> What is the point of the RGB switch afterall? Why not just pass through 
> what's input and remove this switch? 
> 
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen 
> 
> Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer 
> 
> -
> 
> Grafikhuset (House of Graphics)
> Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse
> DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark 
> 
> Mobile: +45 2021 1958
> Phone: +45 4848 0096
> Email: j...@grafikhuset.dk
> Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk [1] 
> 
> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Heiko Haida
> SENT: 20. oktober 2014 16:22
> TO: Craig Ede
> CC: framers
> SUBJECT: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query 
> 
> Well, Craig, 
> 
> thats easy to explain: 
> When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen 
> representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is 
> not a miracle or a question of "who knows" (these programs use HSB 
> definitions, and obviously the conversion works very well).
> With FrameMaker, on the other hand, a CMYK colour will not look "right" 
> neither on screen nor in the resulting PDF. 
> And only with the CMYK print option activated that has been implemented 
> successfully with FM 10, this colour information will be transfered to the 
> PDF correctly. 
> 
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 
> 
> Craig Ede: 
> 
>> Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB 
>> output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. 
>> 
>> Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd 
>> expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the 
>> screen, who knows? It's be "close" but depends on the color correctness of 
>> the particular monitor.
>> 
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Re: FrameMaker: mysterious font substitution in PDF

[Heiko Haida]

 

When mysterious problems with fonts occur, it can also be considered to
delete the Windows Font Cache file, so that all font informations are
(correctly) rebuilt with the next system start. 

==> http://www.ehow.com/how_7197467_rebuild-font-cache.html 

It is very strange that the FM display is changing, even if the main
font has no embedding option. I have never seen this before.
But in fact, some very old postscript fonts that worked well in Win XP
might fail in Win 7. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Alan Houser: 

> Colleagues,
> 
> A client is seeing the following problem:
> 
> - FrameMaker 12, fully patched, Windows 7, full Acrobat.
> 
> - Document uses Helvetica font. Font pane shows all document fonts are 
> available and in use (i.e., FrameMaker is not substituting any fonts).
> 
> - File>Save as PDF -- FrameMaker document reflows on-screen, with 
> Helvetica replaced by Times New Roman. Generated PDF uses Times New 
> Roman instead of Helvetica. (FrameMaker screen display refreshes and 
> reverts back to Helvetica).
> 
> I'm baffled. I have yet to investigate:
> - Missing "legal to embed" flag in client's Helvetica font?
> - Corrupted Acrobat Distiller settings?
> 
> I would be grateful for any other ideas.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> -- 
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> Group Wellesley, Inc.
> Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
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Re: How do Document properties in PDF get populated?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Linda, 

as far as I remember, this behaviour is set in the PDF distiller
profile. In the advanced options you may try to activate / deactivate
DSC comments. 

Another way of defining document properties is via pdfmark. This can be
defined in each document or only in one document for the whole book. 

"pdfmark" text is added in separate text frames set up as postscript
text (invisible text), either on a normal page or on a master page that
is applied. 

pls see: 

-->
http://books.google.de/books?id=b-yEKgcQmN8C&pg=PA564&lpg=PA564&dq=pdfmark+framemaker&source=bl&ots=Wkaf_yRBhm&sig=ZuN7SOEK3iyqEjXBKdwqvAEzGok&hl=de&sa=X&ei=y5hKVMz8A4S4OtnFgNgF&ved=0CGMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=pdfmark%20framemaker&f=false


-->
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdfmark_reference.pdf


Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Linda Rose: 

> Hi, 
> 
> I have some pdf files made from Framemaker 11 that show the FM book filename 
> in the Document Properties window of the PDF (File > Properties). I also have 
> some pdf files made from Framemaker 11 that show a blank field in the 
> Document Properties window of the PDF. I can't figure out why some pdf files 
> display the FM book filename and others don't. I've checked the File > Info 
> box in the FM source files for both books and it is blank. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Linda
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Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs)

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Alison, 

I also had problems to print some single pages to PDF in a larger DIN A3
format: The content was displayed partially, the page was not completely
shown (without error message). 
First I thought the graphic files were corrupt, as taking out the
graphics would at least produce a PDF. 

Then I found that the distiller profile was set to 2400 dpi, and after
reducing this to 1200 dpi everything was fine.
I don't like it, but it seems FM has some internal memory problems here.


Maybe this also applies to your problem. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig, Alison: 

> FM 9 Version: 9.0p255 
> 
> Unstructured 
> 
> OS: Windows 7, 64 bit 
> 
> Okay, after repairing, then reinstalling Frame 9 and Acrobat (which I 
> actually updated to CC Acrobat XI) I was still getting constant crashes when 
> trying to create PDFs using either method. 
> 
> I had previously tried removing a few graphics (all imported by reverence), 
> but that didn't help. This time I went all out and removed every PDF and PNG. 
> (Note that I didn't remove any EPS files. I was hoping that wouldn't be 
> necessary as I have so many EPS icons). 
> 
> Voila! _PRINT BOOK…_, then distilling to PDF worked just fine. 
> 
> I retested the files, leaving in the PNGs and it continued to work. 
> 
> I opened several Visio files, resaved them to PDF then re-imported a few by 
> reference. _PRINT BOOK…_ crashed with these "new" PDFs, even if only a single 
> PDF was in the file. The page count would stop at precisely the page 
> containing the PDF. 
> 
> I have dozens and dozens of PDFs in my books. If resaving the Visio files to 
> a "new" PDF didn't fix the problem, does anyone have any suggestions? 
> 
> What could have gone wrong with the PDFs, many of which have existed for 
> months or, in some cases, years? 
> 
> Alison 
> 
> ALISON CRAIG | TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION LEAD 
> 
> Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | 
> analogicultrasound.com [1] 
> 
> T 604-279-8550 EXT 127 | F 604-279-8559 
> 
> -
> 
> Analogic 
> Ultrasound 
> 
> [2] 
> 
> [3] 
> 
> [4]
 

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Re: Table running over into footers and beyond

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Pam, 

there is a row min and max height value. I think the heighest possible
max value for row height is 14" (set by default to new table rows). 

a) If the page height is less than the row height, the row will extend
further down with the added content, even outside the page (where it is
not visible but would print). 
b) If the row max height is set to a value that will fit into the text
frame, but the content would require more space vertically than this
limit allows, the rest of the content will not be shown (and would not
print). 

I do not think that this behaviour is different for portrait or
landscape format pages.
If the content for a single table row is getting larger than the text
frame size on the page, this will always be problematic. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

 Pam Harper: 

> When I add spaces or anchored frames below one another in a table that is on 
> a landscape page, the table extends itself without regard to the text frame 
> into the footer and beyond. It doesn't do this with the same type of table on 
> a portrait page. This has done this in Frame 10 and 12, which I now use. 
> 
> The key seems to be that the table is on a landscape page, which I created as 
> a custom master page with a regular text frame as a template for body page 
> text frame. The Flow Tag is A--same as the rest of the master pages. Nothing 
> is rotated. I only run into this table behavior on a landscape page. If I add 
> extra pictures or text in a table cell on a portrait page, it always breaks 
> cleanly or at least where I can logically break it. Any ideas? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Pam Harper
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Re: Docbook bookfile

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Wim, 

the new FM 12 XML Author tool would create book files, but only xml
files for chapters inside etc. 

So your authors could work with this tool. It looks like this is want
you want (any DTD would work). 
Publishing would be done afterwards with a regular FM (not necessarily
FM 12). 

best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp: 

> I'll redefine my question: 
> for a specific use case I'm investigating the option of using a docbook book 
> file to let my client edit and maintain their docbook-based xml files in a 
> book-like setting. Analog to the ditamap. 
> Now when I open a docbook book file in FM, FM converts it directly to a FM 
> book. All XML files are converted to fm files. That's not what I want. 
> I want the author to be able to open the docbook book file as XML, be able to 
> edit the individual linked XML files and eventually save the complete book as 
> FM book for publishing. 
> 
> So my question to current docbook FM users: has one of you found a solution 
> for this, maybe a script or a way of working that resembles the topic based 
> approach of DITA maps? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
> 
> Wim Hooghwinkel
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Re: Adobe Illustrator Dimensioning Tool

[Heiko Haida]

 

simple Workaround: 

If you work with PDF in Illustrator, you can use the Adobe Acrobat
measurement tool, which seems to be quite accurate.
(Of course adjustments require switching from Acrobat to Illustrator
back and forth...) 

Best regards - T.Haida 

 Denis Daly: 

> Hi, 
> 
> Hopefully, it is ok to ask this question here. 
> 
> Does anyone know if AI has a dimensioning tool, please? 
> 
> I have used Corel Draw in the past and it had a very easy to use tool, to 
> enable dimensioning of objects (width, height, etc ). 
> 
> A quick online search revealed that a plugin is required. Is this so? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Denis
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Re: Fm book with .xml files

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Wim, 

when I save a book file as XML, all chapters are included as entities
(external references). 

Of course this is not a single file, but still it works. 

What is your problem with it? 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp: 

> Hi, 
> 
> for a project we use a FM book with .xml files (not DITA, it's customized 
> Docbook). The book file has valid XML structure (book, chapters etc). 
> 
> If I save the book to XML the referenced .xml files are omitted from the 
> resulting XML. 
> 
> Any advice how to get a XML from the book file with all referenced .xml files 
> in it?
> 
> Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
> 
> Wim Hooghwinkel
> 
> Information Energy [1], June 3 2015 
> Closing the loop with FontoXML [2] 
> DITA content management with DITAToo [3]
> 
> tel. +31652036811
> Skype wimhooghwinkel
> Twitter @idtp @ien2013
> i...@idtp.eu 
> www.idtp.eu [4]
 

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Conditions not displayed correctly -- structured FM, comparison XML file

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Framers, 

I am using a tool to compare XML files that writes a comparison file
with simple change marks (start and end for "added" / "deleted").
With XSLT, I transform the markers to regular condition markers which
can be read by FrameMaker and which will cause the text to be shown in
green color/underline or red color/strikethrough. 

Now, in the case that one sentence not only contains this constellation
one single time: 
--> "deleted-end" marker is immediately followed by an "added-start"
marker 

but two or more times, something strange happens. 

The first occurence is ok (maybe also the second). 
In the second (or third) and all other occurences with this
constallation, the red color/strikethrough will continue further into
the "added" part until the "added" text ends, which gives a mixed color,
a kind of olive-green, instead of the pure green; also underlining and
strikethrough are both present. 

If I edit the XML comparison file before opening in FM and put a space
between the "deleted-end" marker and the following "added-start" marker
in the second occurence, here the color will display correctly, and
furthermore also in the other occurences (where nothing has been
changed). 

I am not sure if this happens exactly this way all the time... 

Is this a known bug? I checked with FM 8 and FM 12, both are wrong (at
least, some times).
And what can I do here besides inserting spaces between the markers? Any
ideas? 

Thank you - Tino Haida 

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Re: Save as PDF not working for particular directory

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Klaus, 

my FM12 is not available at the moment, and also I only have here the
latest Acro 10. 

After short testing, what I can say is: 

FM 9 + Acro 10.1.13 --> OK, PDF output is fine 

FM 8 + Acro 10.1.13 --> NOT OK, produces only the "empty job" log file. 

So, it may be an Acrobat problem, but it may also be a problem with
FrameMaker (or the combination of both programs?). 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Am 2014-12-22 14:18, schrieb Klaus Daube: 

> This morning I discovered the following:
> Acrobat 11 does not allow to have directory names containing a comma. This 
> was not a 
> problem with Acrobat 9.5.xx
> Situation:
> Using FM-12.0.3.424 to save as PDF works well except for files in a 
> praticular 
> directory: D:PrivateHaus+hofEntsorg,ERZEntsorgung_2015.fm creates an empty 
> TPS 
> which creates the Distiller Message [ Warning: Empty job. No PDF file 
> produced.].
> 
> I was fiddling around, e.g. save as MIF, then open the MIF and Save as PDF 
> from the 
> MIF (no effect); multiple times restarted FM and even W7-x64 (no effect); 
> saving the 
> PDF to another directory (worked).
> Then suddenly had the idea with the directory name. After changing the 
> directory name 
> to Entsorgung+ERZ (no comma, but +) everything is fine again...
> 
> IMHO this is a bug, as on windows a comma is allowed in directory names.
> ~~
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> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
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Re: Customizing anchored frames in FM12 (unstructured)

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Tom, 

I do not know any way to change the underlining parameters. 
I am not sure, but I guess this may not even be accessible via scripting
as there are no plugins available for this purpose. 

How about using the new "background color" feature or the "para box"
feature instead of underlining? This may look well with a 10% black e.g.
Or you could use a "frame below pgf", but the resulting line would
always have a fixed length (like with footnotes). 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com: 

> I am trying to make some design changes to our machine manuals. Currently, 
> all graphics are in anchored frames that are placed within a special table. 
> They look great in print, but tables don't scale well if you plan to also 
> publish for use on a tablet. 
> 
> I have 2 problems. 
> 
> 1) I would like to have a thin border around all graphic frames, but can't 
> find anything within the FM help menus that tells me how to do this. 
> 
> 2) I want to have the figure capture underlined; however, when I choose 
> "underline" in the paragraph designer (not numeric), the line is too close to 
> the descenders in words containing g, y, p, etc. Is there a way to adjust the 
> position of the underline so that it is just below a character's descender? 
> 
> Tom Beiswenger
> Manager, Technical & Training Documentation, Project Manager - Inspection 
> Business
> Emhart Glass Mfg. Inc.
> 1140 Sullivan St.
> Elmira, NY 14901
> PH: +607 735-4279
> FX: +607 734-8278
> Mobile: +607 769-4779
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RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Harro, 

this is a bug and I think it has been discussed here already. 

The link information will be truncated in the mif (not in the FM file
itself) to the max possilble no. of folders available in the folder
hierarchy at the level where the mif file is actually stored to (not
where the FM file is stored) ! 

In your case, you need 2 more hierarchical folder levels. 

Hi Winfried, 

yes, FrameMaker searches for missing graphics in the last successfully
opened graphics folder (of the actual session at least). So, if you have
just opened a first file, all missing graphics for the second file will
be replaced with graphics for the first file if they have the same
names, without checking if they are identical. 

This can be very annoying and therefore I recommend to use unique IDs
for graphics (including version/revision) instead of or in addition to
simple names. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Reng, Dr. Winfried: 

> Hi, 
> 
> I think this is a bug! 
> 
> Steps: 
> 
> Copy a file with a referenced graphics into another folder. The graphics path 
> might be .graphicstest.eps 
> 
> Open the first file. 
> 
> Then open the copied file. It will show the referenced graphics although it 
> should complaint that the graphics file could not be found in .graphics. 
> 
> Obviously FrameMaker calculates for the copied file the graphics path to the 
> graphics file the first file. 
> 
> Best regards 
> 
> Winfried 
> 
> FROM: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
> [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] 
> SENT: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:57 PM
> TO: Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths 
> 
> Winfried Reng said: 
> 
>> However, I do not know how FrameMaker gets the path 
> 
>> to the orginal graphics files. 
> 
>> Does this happen only, if another file is open which points to 
> 
>> the graphics files of the copied file? 
> 
>> Otherwise I wonder how FrameMaker can find out where the 
> 
>> graphics files are located. 
> 
> That part of detecting the absolute file location is easy. After a program 
> accessing a file (through all the relative references), determining the 
> absolute location of a file is trivial in code. 
> 
> The truncation mentioned by Harro is troublesome though. 
> 
> Also, there is a path length limit in Windows - I thought it was 256 
> characters, but may be 64 characters? And this does not explain the network 
> file name issue mentioned … 
> 
> I'll look … 
> 
> Z 
> 
> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Harro de Jong
> SENT: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 10:35 AM
> TO: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths 
> 
> hi all, 
> 
> I recently ran into an issue: we received a set of FrameMaker files for 
> translation. After we sent the translated files back to the customer, they 
> complained that all of the image paths in their files were changed. 
> 
> They were using relative paths that had lots of 'parent' references: 
> 
> Graphicsetc 
> 
> When I received these files, I placed them in a directory 4 levels deep: 
> 
> F:Customerprojecttranslationincomingblah.fm 
> 
> When I opened this file Frame asked for the location of external graphics. I 
> selected 'Ignore all missing files' and saved the file as MIF. 
> 
> When I inspected the MIF, the graphics paths were truncated to 
> 
> Graphicsetc 
> 
> So the path gets truncated to the number of levels available from the current 
> location. 
> 
> When I store the file on an UNC path, it gets worse: 
> 
> \ServerCustomerprojecttranslationincomingblah.fm [1] 
> 
> graphics paths: 
> 
> \Graphicsetc [2] 
> 
> In my opinion, this is a bug. When I select 'Ignore all missing files', Frame 
> should leave the existing paths alone. 
> 
> Has anyone else seen the same behavior? 
> 
> Harro de Jong
 

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Re: Long change bars are created when a table is in between 2

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ed, 

I checked with FM 8 and FM 12: 

If the character format is applied only to a single character in each
paragraph, the change bars combine to a long line, "including" also the
tables. 

I do not see any kind of workaround in your suggestion, the bug here is
exactly what Simon was telling us. 

I haven't got FM 9 here right now, so I cannot say if the behaviour is
different. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida 

De Rosier, Edward: 

> Hi Simon, 
> 
> You could also use the Character Designer to apply change bars so that the 
> table marker will not be included. 
> 
> You can use a mouse in the Character Designer dialog box, or use the 
> keyboard. 
> 
> The key sequence for those change bars is Format > Style > Change Bar, which 
> can by keyed on a Windows PC by: 
> 
> [Alt][o] [y] [c] 
> 
> This does not mean the behavior was not a bug, but it is a relatively easy 
> workaround. 
> 
> As an aside, I sometimes want to have a change bar that includes an 
> intermediate table. FM 9 does not do this the way your version behaves. If I 
> highlight a long sequence of paragraphs, and use the Paragraph Designer to 
> apply a change bar, the tables are skipped. If I use the Character Designer 
> to apply the change bar, then the tables are included. 
> 
> Best Wishes, 
> 
> Ed DeRosier 
> 
> Technical Writer 
> 
> Anritsu Company 
> 
> Morgan Hill, California
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Re: Supporting Thai

[Heiko Haida]

 

I know some folks who are publishing Thai with FrameMaker. 

But I do not know how they are doing it. I could try to ask them...
What is the specific problem with segmentation? 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Wei JIANG [PT-CN]: 

> Hello Framers,
> 
> I have quick question - Does FrameMaker support Thai? Particularly, word 
> segmentation?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wei
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Re: Supporting Thai

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Wei Jiang, 

it seems that word boundaries have to be set manually. 
You will definitively need people who know both the language and
FrameMaker as typesetting tool. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Wei JIANG [PT-CN]: 

> It seems that Thai text does not has explicit word boundaries, such as 
> blanks, so that FrameMaker may wrap lines in a wrong way. I was just 
> wondering if there is any way to ensure proper word breaking.
> 
> On 2015/1/21 12:15, Heiko Haida wrote: 
> 
> I know some folks who are publishing Thai with FrameMaker. 
> 
> But I do not know how they are doing it. I could try to ask them...
> What is the specific problem with segmentation? 
> 
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 
> 
> Wei JIANG [PT-CN]: 
> 
> Hello Framers,
> 
> I have quick question - Does FrameMaker support Thai? Particularly, word 
> segmentation?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wei

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Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

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Hi Lin, 

if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based
email is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the
review, which means that you cannot use the email review process at all
(as far as I understand it). 
You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that
is necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final
version at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the
files as "original" or "commented" versions of one review process. (...I
guess.) 

There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but
server-based: 

1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV) 

2) acrobat.com could be used as a "server" (Adobe ID required for setup)


In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or
work with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered
to the server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for
all reviewers and can also be answered, which can be very useful
(connection to server-path/internet must be available to "publish" the
comments). This way, the comments do not have to be re-imported into the
original version from all the different commented files. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin 

Lin Sims: 

> Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
> invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been 
> able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is 
> complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service 
> for collecting the review comments.
> 
> I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send 
> it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say about 
> assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a reviewer 
> tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on the cloud 
> server.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Lin Sims

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RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Fred, 

I was also thinking of the fact that Acrobat will use a PDF file with
some modifications, like the comment function readied for Adobe Reader,
not the original file.
(This is a useful service and you would have to keep this in mind if
your doing it without Acrobat.) 

But you are right, of course it is possible to share the file and start
a review-cycle the old-fashioned way, only -- probably -- this will not
be so "effortless".
To me, the server-based workflow seems to be better suited for a quick
and efficient review than the email-based workflow. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Fred Ridder: 

> I don't think that's entirely true, Tino.
> You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, 
> but it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the 
> FrameMaker source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried it).
> The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each reviewer 
> sends and then importing those comments into the master review PDF. Look in 
> the Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments tool palette 
> (or whatevertheheck Adobe calls it...) for the "Export All as Data File" and 
> "Import Data File" commands.
> Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to date 
> and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about grabbing the 
> latest copy of the master file before starting to add their own comments.
> 
> -Fred Ridder
> 
> -
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:50:17 +0100
> From: i...@heiko-haida.de
> To: ljsims...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review
> 
> Hi Lin,
> if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based email 
> is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, which 
> means that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as I 
> understand it). 
> You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that is 
> necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final version 
> at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files as 
> "original" or "commented" versions of one review process. (...I guess.)
> There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but 
> server-based:
> 1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV)
> 2) acrobat.com could be used as a "server" (Adobe ID required for setup)
> In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or work 
> with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to the 
> server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all reviewers 
> and can also be answered, which can be very useful (connection to 
> server-path/internet must be available to "publish" the comments). This way, 
> the comments do not have to be re-imported into the original version from all 
> the different commented files.
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin
> 
> Lin Sims:
> 
>> Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
>> invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been 
>> able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is 
>> complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service 
>> for collecting the review comments.
>> 
>> I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send 
>> it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say 
>> about assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a 
>> reviewer tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on 
>> the cloud server.
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Lin Sims
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Adobe SourceSans Han // Google NotoSansCJK font -- FM does not print to PDF -- Bug?

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Hi Framers, hi Adobe experts, 

I read about the Adobe / Google project of inventing a type with a
complete Unicode basic plane 0 (-->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Han_Sans). 

So I found a website where I downloaded the Adobe versions (which is
"Source Sans Han"; in the sc version), and also from Google I got the
"NotoSansCJK" fonts (which are said to contain the same glyphs). 

When I use the standard chinese (sc) versions of these fonts in
FrameMaker 12 (and FM 8, on Win7), on screen everything looks fine, but
the resulting PDF is -->empty!
("Empty" means that there is no font information on the page at all,
nothing is reported missing, only some characters from other fonts will
show up, the rest is absolutely blank.)
I tried rebuilding the Windows font cache, but without change in the
output. 

--> The same text in Indesign will print fine with these fonts as PDF. 

So whats the problem here? Why can't FrameMaker do this...?
Is the font too "big"? 

I know that Opentype features are not available in FM (yet). But until
now, I always thought that that there would be no problems with using
normal CJK fonts.
Of course I remember the "font cache problem" of the old days of Windows
XP which caused an ongoing dementia concerning the characters (which
could fortunately be cured with a patch from Microsoft). 

As this font project was developed by Adobe, I guess some of you Adobe
folks might come up with an answer (or solution?) for this. 

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Re: Adobe SourceSans Han // Google NotoSansCJK font -- FM does not print to PDF -- Bug?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello dear Hiro, 

thank you for testing this... 

The strange thing on my computer (german Win 7) is that some characters
are visible. 
I took only these and copied them until a whole page was filled -- this
printed fine in the PDF. Other characters would still disappear.
Klicking on "RGB" did not change this. 

I read that some Windows security patches from Microsoft sometimes have
influences on the font display.
The last patch with this side effect was KB2982791 dating from August
'14. 

Maybe it is not only related to FrameMaker (I tested it in version 8 and
12), but also to Windows. I do not know why it works well in Indesign,
though.
Maybe the OTF-compatibility of FrameMaker is not well enough for a font
with 2^16=65535 characters. 

So, I will see if FM 13 can do better. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

OISHIHIROFUMI: 

> Dear Heiko, 
> 
> Hello. I've tried creating a PDF with Adobe SourceSans Han font (Chinese 
> Simplified) on the following set: 
> 
> FrameMaker: Ver. 12 (Japanese Ver.) 
> OS: Windows 7 Pro (Japanese Ver.) 
> Joboption: Press Quality 
> How to create PDF: Save as PDF... 
> Used font: SourceHanSansCN-Bold, SourceHanSansCN-Medium, 
> SourceHanSansCN-Regular 
> 
> The result is as follows: 
> When I have selected "CMYK" on the Save as PDF dialog -> Failed 
> 
> When I have selected "RGB" on the Save as PDF dialog -> Successed 
> 
> The problem should be same as the CMYK/RGB problem (often reported on the 
> list), I think... 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Hiro. Oishi 
> sima...@mac.com 
> 
> 2015年2月12日 19:10、Heiko Haida さんのメッセージ：
> 
>> Hi Framers, hi Adobe experts, 
>> 
>> I read about the Adobe / Google project of inventing a type with a complete 
>> Unicode basic plane 0 (--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Han_Sans). 
>> 
>> So I found a website where I downloaded the Adobe versions (which is "Source 
>> Sans Han"; in the sc version), and also from Google I got the "NotoSansCJK" 
>> fonts (which are said to contain the same glyphs). 
>> 
>> When I use the standard chinese (sc) versions of these fonts in FrameMaker 
>> 12 (and FM 8, on Win7), on screen everything looks fine, but the resulting 
>> PDF is -->empty!
>> ("Empty" means that there is no font information on the page at all, nothing 
>> is reported missing, only some characters from other fonts will show up, the 
>> rest is absolutely blank.)
>> I tried rebuilding the Windows font cache, but without change in the output. 
>> 
>> --> The same text in Indesign will print fine with these fonts as PDF. 
>> 
>> So whats the problem here? Why can't FrameMaker do this...?
>> Is the font too "big"? 
>> 
>> I know that Opentype features are not available in FM (yet). But until now, 
>> I always thought that that there would be no problems with using normal CJK 
>> fonts.
>> Of course I remember the "font cache problem" of the old days of Windows XP 
>> which caused an ongoing dementia concerning the characters (which could 
>> fortunately be cured with a patch from Microsoft). 
>> 
>> As this font project was developed by Adobe, I guess some of you Adobe folks 
>> might come up with an answer (or solution?) for this. 
>> 
>> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin
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Re: Deactivate not available for for Framemaker 10

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Hi Tammy, 

it may be necessary to work with admin rights to have the "Deactivate"
button available, or maybe it will only work if the computer is
connected with the internet. 

If this did not help: Maybe you could just try to install FM 10 on the
second laptop and see if the program would run with your license... 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Tammy Van Boening: 

> HI All, 
> 
> I have two Win 7, 64 bit machines (one desktop and one laptop) both with 
> Framemaker 10 installed, all patched and current. I need to deactivate the 
> instance of FM 10 on the laptop so that I can install and activate it on a 
> second laptop. When I open the instance of FM 10 on the desktop, the 
> Deactivate option is available from the Help menu. Great, but I do not want 
> to deactivate this instance. When I open the instance of FM 10 on the laptop, 
> the Deactivate option is grayed-out and no matter what I do, I cannot get to 
> become enabled. I have closed and reopened FM multiple times, I have opened 
> and closed existing FM documents, I have created and saved new FM documents, 
> but no joy. 
> 
> I can't deactivate the FM instance on my desktop . . .it has to be the one on 
> the laptop. 
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions? 
> 
> TIA, 
> 
> TVB 
> 
> Tammy Van Boening 
> 
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> 
> Spectrum Writing, LLC 
> 
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> 
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Re: importing graphics in xml file

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Fred, 

there is a dpi option. 

Example: 

dpi="300" 

(height and width are used to specify the frame that contains the
graphics in FM.) 

The structured application developers guide says: 

"dpi corresponds to the dpi property and indicates how to scale an
imported graphic object. The software ignores this attribute if it finds
a value for the impsize attribute. It produces only one of the
attributes--dpi or impsize. The value of the dpi attribute is a number.
If not supplied, the value is 72." 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Fred Wersan: 

> Looks like it imports it at 72 dpi. I want 150 dpi for some graphics, higher 
> for others.
> 
> Fred
> On 2/19/2015 1:55 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> 
>> Hi Fred, What happens if you don't include the width and height attributes? 
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>> Subject: importing graphics in xml file I am importing xml files into 
>> structured framemaker 8 and these files reference graphics using the 
>> following syntax: > yoffset = "0.0in" position = "runin" align = "aright" cropped = "0" float = 
>> "0" width = "3.25in" height = "3.1in" angle = "0.000" bloffset = "0.000in" 
>> nsoffset = "0.000in"/> I think I got this syntax by exporting a file and 
>> seeing what framemaker created. I am using an automated process to create 
>> the xml files that assumes all the refer
 enced
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aren't. The result is that graphics files that don't fit impsize = "3.183in 
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Re: Automatic column widths on import of XML file

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi, 

last time I had a closer look I found that FrameMaker would only support
the CALS table model with fixed numeric column widths, not with
percentages. 

Although it may be possible to set the widths via scripting, the result
will probably not be satisfying at the first attempt. (... especially
when translating the text in different languages) 

Each column has a numeric "column width" entry. 
If these entries are deleted or not written, FrameMaker assumes all
colums to have the same width when interpreting the XML code.
(I have an example here where all columns are output with a width of 2
cm, but I do not know what the default value would be.) 

Although a template may seem to specify a certain no. of columns (when
inserted as a new table), in the XML workflow a template will only have
influences on margins, ruling and shading. It does not mean that all
tables would be complemented or trunkated to this quantity of columns. 

We are using FrameMaker as XML editor, so the columns widths are
specified during the editing process and are thus transfered to the XML
code. Indesign e.g. would not be "able" to understand this XML directly
without transformation.
As you can see, one XML is not like another... 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

 Lin Sims: 

> We've an internal perl script that sets up tables at a predefined table width 
> with the columns at predefined widths, but I'm pretty sure those measurements 
> are hard-coded into the script that creates the XML file from the Excel 
> spreadsheet. It's doable if you know what sizes you're working with before 
> you get started, including how many columns you need included.
> 
> XML might let you set column widths as a percentage of page/screen width, but 
> I don't think that's directly transferable to FM. Can perl handle 
> calculations? 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> 
> Fei Min...
> 
> FM won't auto-adjust table columns in any useful way. The only way I know of 
> is to write a script or plugin to analyze the contents of the cells and do 
> the width adjustment based on some predefined logic (widest graphic, or 
> amount of text, etc.).
> 
> Would love to hear I'm wrong .. but hot holding my breath.
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/23/15 9:16 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: 
> 
> Hi folks: 
> 
> I found this discussion from 2008: 
> https://forums.adobe.com/message/1279946#1279946 [3], and this helpful answer 
> from Russ Ward in 2010: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/577820?tstart=0 [4], 
> but I don't see the solution that I'm looking for. My manager (a software 
> development guy) would like to create an XML file that I can import into 
> FrameMaker that doesn't specify the width of each column. He's taking output 
> from Jira, and people can create tables in the Description field there, but 
> he has no way of knowing how wide the columns are. He figures that if HTML 
> can automatically size the columns to suit the contents, surely FrameMaker 
> can do this too (I'm not so sure). 
> 
> I've tried it myself, and the column widths in the table template apply when 
> you don't specify widths in XML. If you have more columns than are in your 
> template, it seems to use the width of the last templated column. And the 
> tables might contain graphics as well as text. 
> 
> Anyone have any better ideas? 
> 
> I'm using FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7. I think my manager is using Perl or 
> some other scripting language. Jira outputs HTML as well as some other text 
> format. 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: Automatic column widths on import of XML file

[Heiko Haida]

 

Good point, Scott, thank you.
I haven't seen this before, sorry... 

The syntax in the XML file would be like this: 

a) numeric example 


 

b) proportional example 


 

(here with the default that proportions add to "100") 

Best regards - Tino 

Scott Prentice: 

> Fei Min...
> 
> Column widths can be percentages using the "NN*" format, if your r/w rules 
> file includes this rule ..
> 
> writer use proportional widths;
> 
> Cheers,
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/24/15 10:41 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks everyone who responded to this question. The conclusion is that we 
>> can't expect FrameMaker to automatically size the column widths depending on 
>> the cells' contents. The next best solution seems to be a post-processing 
>> script. Maybe a preprocessing script is feasible, but since XML is supposed 
>> to be format-independent, we really shouldn't know the font type and size or 
>> padding in each cell, so preprocessing is probably a bad idea. 
>> 
>> In the interests of clarity, I should point out that Russ Ward seems to be 
>> correct (at least in FrameMaker 10). If no column widths are specified in 
>> the XML file, FrameMaker uses the column widths of the table style (i.e. 
>> template), even though you don't explicitly specify them. FrameMaker saves 
>> the number of columns and the width of them behind the scenes whenever you 
>> save that table style. When you import the XML table using that style, it 
>> uses the width of the columns in the table style going from left to right 
>> (of course), and if the XML table has more columns than the table style, it 
>> keeps using the width of the last (rightmost) column. I know it never 
>> truncates nor adds columns according to the table style. 
>> 
>> Thanks for letting me know that the widths have to be fixed numbers and 
>> can't be percentages. 
>> 
>> Fei Min Lorente 
>> 
>> Senior Technical Communicator 
>> 
>> Medical and Wireless Division 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> +1 519-831-4931 | mobile 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> last time I had a closer look I found that FrameMaker would only support
>> 
>> the CALS table model with fixed numeric column widths, not with
>> 
>> percentages. 
>> 
>> Although it may be possible to set the widths via scripting, the result
>> 
>> will probably not be satisfying at the first attempt. (... especially
>> 
>> when translating the text in different languages) 
>> 
>> Each column has a numeric "column width" entry. 
>> 
>> If these entries are deleted or not written, FrameMaker assumes all
>> 
>> colums to have the same width when interpreting the XML code.
>> 
>> (I have an example here where all columns are output with a width of 2
>> 
>> cm, but I do not know what the default value would be.) 
>> 
>> Although a template may seem to specify a certain no. of columns (when
>> 
>> inserted as a new table), in the XML workflow a template will only have
>> 
>> influences on margins, ruling and shading. It does not mean that all
>> 
>> tables would be complemented or trunkated to this quantity of columns. 
>> 
>> We are using FrameMaker as XML editor, so the columns widths are
>> 
>> specified during the editing process and are thus transfered to the XML
>> 
>> code. Indesign e.g. would not be "able" to understand this XML directly
>> 
>> without transformation.
>> 
>> As you can see, one XML is not like another... 
>> 
>> Tino H. Haida, Berlin 
>> 
>> Lin Sims: 
>> 
>>> _ We've an internal perl script that sets up tables at a predefined table 
>>> width with the columns at predefined widths, but I'm pretty sure those 
>>> measurements are hard-coded into the script that creates the XML file from 
>>> the Excel spreadsheet. It's doable if you know what sizes you're working 
>>> with before you get started, including how many columns you need included._
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ XML might let you set column widths as a percentage of page/screen width, 
>>> but I don't think that's directly transferable to FM. Can perl handle 
>>> calculations? _
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Scott Prentice >> [1]> wrote:_
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ Fei Min..._
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ FM won't auto-adjust table columns in any useful way. The only way I know 
>>> of is to write a script or plugin to analyze the contents of the cells and 
>>> do the width adjustment based on some predefined logic (widest graphic, or 
>>> amount of text, etc.)._
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ Would love to hear I'm wrong .. but hot holding my breath._
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ ...scott_
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ On 2/23/15 9:16 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: _
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ Hi folks: _
>> 
>>> _ _
>> 
>>> _ I found this discussion from 2008: 
>>> https://forums.adobe.com/message/1279946#1279946 [2] [3], and this helpful 
>>> answer from Russ Ward in 2010: 
>>> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/577820?tstart=0 [3] [4], but I don't see 

Re: Problem with master pages and pagination settings

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Pat, 

I checked our standard XML-workflow: We are also using a special first
master page which is assigned to the first (and only) page of the
template. 

After loading the XML content, the standard left and right master pages
are used after the first page. The setting for the template is "Delete
empty pages". 

We had no problems with this so far. 

I checked with FM 8 and FM 12. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

 Christenson, Pat: 

> I have a template with a custom master page on the first page. Pagination is 
> set to Before Saving & Printing, Delete Empty Pages. The template is 1 page 
> with boilerplate content. Content in each document flows onto new pages. 
> 
> Here's the problem: the new pages all use the custom first master page, not 
> master page Right. 
> 
> I've discovered that changing the Before Saving & Printing setting in the 
> template to Make Page Count Even in the template corrects this (new pages use 
> master page Right) but these documents aren't supposed to have empty pages. 
> 
> The 2 fixes I've developed are: 
> 
> - In the template, set Before Saving & Printing to Make Page Count Even. 
> After content is final in a document, set it to Delete Empty Pages. 
> 
> OR 
> 
> - In the template, add empty paragraphs to flow onto a second page, then set 
> Before Saving & Printing to Delete Empty Pages. In a document, delete the 
> empty paragraphs after inserting real content. 
> 
> Any other suggestions? 
> 
> Pat Christenson 
> 
> Resource Coordinator 
> 
> Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications 
> 
> pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
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Re: creating multiple table of contents in one FrameMaker document

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Salome, 

the main mechanism is: Certain para formats are chosen from the content
files (in book menu) to provide the source for the text in the table of
content file(s). 

For your case, this would mean: 

a) There is a book with all files in it, or 2 books in a book (one per
group) etc. 

b) The para formats for 1.-5. are headlines; when creating the TOC this
format is chosen to add its content to the TOC. 

c) There is a restarting numbering with the 2nd group ("1. Document:
Fish"). One way to do it is to use a different headline para format for
group 2, or the numbers are entered in the content as real text (not
auto-numbered headlines). It depends which option is best. 

d) The text "Group 1 Program" and "Group 2 Program" must be somewhere in
a document to be referenced to add to the TOC (this is a main problem). 

e) "Table of Contents" is simple text at the beginning of the TOC (para
format must not match other headline para formats that are supposed to
be added to TOC). 

This given, it should be possible to have a TOC like in your example. 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Abungu, Salome: 

> Hi! I would like to create multiple table of contents in one document. It 
> would look something like the layout below. Each of the documents is a 
> standalone FrameMaker file. Is this possible? I'm wracking my brain for 
> ideas. Thank you! 
> 
> Salome 
> 
> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* 
> 
> TABLE OF CONTENTS 
> 
> GROUP 1 PROGRAM 
> 
> * Document: Alligator 
> * Document: Bear
> * Document: Camel
> * Document: Deer
> * Document: Eagle
> 
> GROUP 2 PROGRAM 
> 
> * Document: Fish
> * Document: Giraffe 
> * Document: Hippopotamus
> * Document: Iguana
> * Document: Jaguar
> 
> SALOME ABUNGU
> _Service and Sales_ 
> 
> _Technical Writer_ 
> 
> SCOTT SAFETY
> 4320 Goldmine Road 
> 
> Monroe, NC 28110 USA 
> 
> TEL: 704.207.2692 
> 
> FAX: 704.291.8420 
> 
> sabu...@tycoint.com 
> 
> WWW.SCOTTSAFETY.COM [1] 
> 
> FOLLOW SCOTT SAFETY [2] [3] [4]
 

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[2] http://www.facebook.com/pages/Scott-Health-Safety/129164020434839
[3] http://www.youtube.com/user/scotthstube?blend=23&ob=5
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Re: secured PDFs

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi all, 

some time ago I bought the PDF Password Remover (-->
http://www.verypdf.com/app/pdf-password-remover/index.html)for legal
purposes. 

The tool simply wipes away the password in a second and costs only 30 $.
So, forget about password security to be any kind of obstacle. 

We are using the certificate security for our manuals instead, which
will make sure that any unauthorized change could be detected. 

(Until now, I still do believe that a certificate can not be removed, or
only by those users who own the certificate and with the system where
the certificate was originally set. But maybe this is not true, does
anyone have objections?) 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Shmuel: 

> This is what we allow and disallow:
> Printing: ALLOWED
> Changing the Document: Not Allowed
> Document Assembly: Not Allowed
> Content Copying or Extraction: ALLOWED
> Content Extraction for Accessibility: ALLOWED
> Commenting: Not Allowed
> Filling of form fields: Not Allowed
> Signing: Not Allowed
> Creation of Template Pages: Not Allowed
> 
> --
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 
> On 03-Mar-15 10:12 PM, Johnson, Joyce wrote: 
> 
>> We deliver user guides (software and hardware) to customers via 
>> password-protected pdfs, loaded onto servers and also posted on our customer 
>> web portal. 
>> 
>> I'm wondering how members of this group deliver customer-facing documents. 
>> Do you use pdfs? If so, do you secure those pdfs? If you secure them, how do 
>> you accommodate in-house colleagues who request unsecured pdfs so they can 
>> extract pages and images? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your responses. 
>> 
>> Joyce 
>> 
>> JOYCE M. JOHNSON 
>> 
>> AmerisourceBergen 
>> 
>> Lead Technical Writer 
>> 
>> Technology Group 
>> 
>> 1400 Busch Parkway 
>> 
>> Buffalo Grove, IL 60089 
>> 
>> 847.808.5875 
>> 
>> 888.537.3102 ext 15875 
>> 
>> www.abtg.com [1]
 

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Re: Track changes question

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi John, 

in the online help for FM 11 it says: 

"If you modify the document with the Track Text Edits feature on and
Preview Final or Preview Original selected, FrameMaker switches from
Preview mode to Tracking mode." 

So I guess you have to decide either to see all changes in tracking mode
or to switch off the tracking feature (which means of course that the
following changes then would not be tracked at all). 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com: 

> Hi, guys..
> 
> First, thanks for answering my question about using Scope to limit Track
> Changes to a single document.
> 
> Next question: Is there an element in a Framemaker configuration file that
> makes Document the default in the scope of track text edits?
> 
> Also, I find that if I have a document in the state "Preview Final", and I
> make a change, it immediately turns off Preview Final and shows all the
> track changes. I'd like to be able to work in a clean view and only view
> the changes when I want..
> 
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY
> 
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> Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal Cellphone - 732-259-2874 
> Fax 
> Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 
> Email 
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Re: secured PDFs

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Carol, 

as I and Shmuel Wolfson pointed out: The password "security" is not
secure at all. 

I apologize, but your clients require something that cannot be achieved.


About the certificate: 
Given an original PDF with certificate, any later change would be
displayed -- so any reader could see that the file is not the original
file.
On the other hand, of course it is not possible for external
users/readers to distinguish a fake PDF with a false certificate or with
no certificate at all from an original one. First, he/she would have to
know that our company uses a certificate, and second the way a
certificate looks like can be reproduced by anyone. 

Only our staff could find out if the PDF is a fake (with certificate
password check), e.g. if necessary to initiate legal measures. 

At the moment, I do not see any way to prevent fake PDFs, although I
would be fond of knowing one. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida 

Carol J. Elkins: 

> At 11:00 AM 3/4/2015, you wrote:
> 
>> We are using the certificate security for our manuals instead, which will 
>> make sure that any unauthorized change could be detected.
> 
> Heiko, from the little I know about PDF certificate security, you must be 
> able to identify every user of the PDF. My clients sell PDF versions of their 
> books via CD on open ecommerce and I have found no good way to secure those 
> PDFs other than the very vulnerable password protection. Do you happen to 
> know if certificate security can be used in situations where a PDF is burned 
> to CD and the CDs mass-produced? My clients require secure PDFs to prevent 
> modifying them and also to prevent companies from copying the content and 
> rebranding it as their own.
> 
> Carol 
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RE: Problem with master pages and pagination settings

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Pat, 

I do not think that FM 12 would produce a different result. 

Did you consider to use a "MasterPagesMap" (on reference page)? 

pls. see -->
http://www.adobe.com/print/tips/frm7masterpage/pdfs/frm7masterpage.pdf 

Points 3-5. 

(Although this is for FM 7, is still applies to newer versions of FM, I
guess.) 

Best regards -- T.H. Haida 

Christenson, Pat: 

> We are using FrameMaker 10. 
> 
> Sorry I haven't responded sooner but more important things came up and I 
> think we're just going to have to live with this until we upgrade to FM 12. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Pat 
> 
> FROM: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] 
> SENT: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:23 PM
> TO: Christenson, Pat; Framers
> SUBJECT: Re: Problem with master pages and pagination settings 
> 
> Hi Pat, 
> 
> I checked our standard XML-workflow: We are also using a special first master 
> page which is assigned to the first (and only) page of the template. 
> 
> After loading the XML content, the standard left and right master pages are 
> used after the first page. The setting for the template is "Delete empty 
> pages". 
> 
> We had no problems with this so far. 
> 
> I checked with FM 8 and FM 12. 
> 
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 
> 
> Christenson, Pat: 
> 
>> I have a template with a custom master page on the first page. Pagination is 
>> set to Before Saving & Printing, Delete Empty Pages. The template is 1 page 
>> with boilerplate content. Content in each document flows onto new pages. 
>> 
>> Here's the problem: the new pages all use the custom first master page, not 
>> master page Right. 
>> 
>> I've discovered that changing the Before Saving & Printing setting in the 
>> template to Make Page Count Even in the template corrects this (new pages 
>> use master page Right) but these documents aren't supposed to have empty 
>> pages. 
>> 
>> The 2 fixes I've developed are: 
>> 
>> - In the template, set Before Saving & Printing to Make Page Count Even. 
>> After content is final in a document, set it to Delete Empty Pages. 
>> 
>> OR 
>> 
>> - In the template, add empty paragraphs to flow onto a second page, then set 
>> Before Saving & Printing to Delete Empty Pages. In a document, delete the 
>> empty paragraphs after inserting real content. 
>> 
>> Any other suggestions? 
>> 
>> Pat Christenson 
>> 
>> Resource Coordinator 
>> 
>> Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications 
>> 
>> pchristen...@ftportfolios.com

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RE: removing space at the end of line

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Craig, 

this sounds familiar. It was always necessary to start a first search
from text, a second one from within a table (and sometimes a third one
on the master pages). 

So it seems that FrameMaker has not changed its behaviour with version
12. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig Ede: 

> Oddly enough, after posting this I ran into an issue I hadn't seen before 
> while stepping through a series of such replaces.
> 
> Sometimes after removing a space in a table it reports "Not found." Yet if 
> you click outside the table, it will continue to find such items. Sounds like 
> a bug to me. The occurrence of multiple paragraphs in a table, some of which 
> may have spaces at the end of a paragraph, may not have been adequately 
> tested by Adobe.
> 
> Craig
> 
> -
> From: adam.holl...@solacesystems.com
> To: craig...@hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: removing space at the end of line
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:59:18 +
> 
> Thanks so much for this. I've had a blog post brewing in my head for some 
> time about how regular expressions can be very useful for editing. Have yet 
> to write it, though. 
> 
> I'll be using this very frequently, I think. 
> 
> Adam Hollett 
> 
> Customer Documentation 
> 
> Solace Systems 
> 
> adam.holl...@solacesystems.com 
> 
> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Craig Ede
> SENT: March-23-15 3:31 PM
> TO: framers
> SUBJECT: removing space at the end of line 
> 
> Thanks to Rick Quatro's excellent webinar on regular expression search and 
> replace some time back I was able to construct the following reg exp search 
> in FM 12 to remove a space occurring at the end of a line right before the 
> end of paragraph marker. I've been using for it for awhile. I'm sure others 
> have constructed something similar, but for those of you who don't want to 
> mess around and experiment:
> 
> Find: (?<=.) (?=x0a)
> 
> Replace with nothing. Of course, the Regular Expressions option has to be 
> checked in the Find/Replace dialog.
> 
> Earlier versions of FrameMaker would allow you to replace a space followed by 
> an end of paragraph, but you had to replace with the paragraph marker. That 
> would result in your paragraph being formatted with the tag of the following 
> paragraph which was often not what you wanted.
> 
> Hope this is useful to someone out there. I find that Word conversions often 
> suffer from these extra spaces.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Craig
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Re: Character Format Issue

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Kristy, 

if the Bold font is available and the corresponding character format is
defined and used correctly in the template, the only reason would be a
"AutonumCharFormat" defined in the EDD that overrides the template
(specifying a different character format). 
Of course, this would not explain why you can apply another formatting,
like Bold Underline... 

About the tables: I could try to answer a specific question, but my
range of experience with this issue is limited. 

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Kristy Nolan: 

> Hi, fellow Framers - 
> 
> I am working on cleaning up our EDD for our manuals, Frame 11. We have 3 
> types of alerts (note, caution, warning) that pretty much follow the same 
> rules, so are set up the same as much as possible. I have the caution and 
> warning doing exactly what I need them to do with Autonumber Format as 
> "Caution:" or "Warning:" and the Character Format as "Bold Underline." Since 
> I am trying to match (where possible) our Arbortext DTD and styles, I need 
> the "Note:" to be just Bold. 
> 
> However, the bold is not showing up. I can change it to everything else, 
> including Bold DoubleUnderline or Blue, and it displays as prescribed. Just 
> not plain bold. Spacing all works, nesting/indenting works fine. What can I 
> be missing? 
> 
> Also, if you are good at table format structuring and are willing to answer 
> questions, I am having trouble with those. Right now those are still just 
> done in my template through table designer with only the very basic set up in 
> the EDD. 
> 
> Thanks for any advice anyone can give on this! 
> 
> Kristy 
> 
> Kristy Nolan 
> 
> Manager Flight Ops Publications 
> 
> Central Publications 
> 
> Southwest Airlines 
> 
> 214.792.6142
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Re: Is FM11 completely backward compatible with FM10?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Jim, 

I wonder where you would buy FM 10 -- this is not available any more. I
have been looking for a license recently, but I could not find any. 
You can still get FM11, but not directly from Adobe... 

AFAIK it is possible to buy the newest version (FM 12) and to use this
license to install an older version ("downgrading"). You should ask the
Adobe support how it works, of course. This way you could stay with your
FM 10 workflow. 

FM 11 has some new features like the code view, or the line numbers, and
so on. Depends if this is useful for you.
(Alan Houser described them here:
http://www.groupwellesley.com/2012/08/26/a-look-at-adobe-framemaker-11/)


Or maybe you buy one license of FM 12 for the new colleague and the
upgrade from FM 10 to FM 12.
In this case, you also have to consider that other people working for
you, like translators or typesetters, would be forced to change their
version.
FM 12 still has problems with the CMYK output by the way, if I remember
the recent discussion here in this forum correctly (FM 10 works fine!). 

I heard that FM 13 will be launched next year... 

 

Anyway, both writers must use the same version. 

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Jim Duszynski: 

> Happy Tuesday Framers! 
> 
> We are adding a writer and current have FM10. I want to buy FM10 or FM11 but 
> am not sure if FM11 is completely backward compatible with FM10. Can anyone 
> verify that the FM working files are interchangeable between FM11 & FM10, 
> with no special save to FM10 steps? I know there's a difference and I think 
> that is DITA output with FM11 (Thanks to Klaus for the FM feature history!). 
> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has been down this road before me. 
> 
> Thanks in advance! 
> 
> _JIM DUSZYNSKI_ 
> 
> Technical Writer 
> (719) 884-3787 
> 
> _"Don't write merely to be understood. Write so that you cannot possibly be 
> misunderstood." _(Robert Louis Stevenson) 
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Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ed, 

I have not checked, but maybe this message and statement from Dov Isaacs
(about FM 11) still applies to FM 12 as well... 

--> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1092566 

Fortunately we will see a change already with FM 13. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

De Rosier, Edward: 

> Hello Framers,
> 
> We are using FM 12 (TCS 5) on Windows 7 PCs.
> 
> The company has a new document style that includes a background image, which 
> is a bit like having a watermark on the cover page. In modifying the design 
> of our templates, we have placed the background image on the master page.
> 
> When we add a product image to the body page, the white background of the 
> product image masks a portion of the background image. We have tried images 
> (referenced from a common image folder) of the following types: Adobe 
> Illustrator (*.ai), Adobe Photoshop (*.psd), *.png, and *.eps.
> 
> Even though we have carefully created knockedout images with transparent 
> backgrounds, we have not been able to avoid the masking effect.
> 
> We would appreciate any ideas.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ed DeRosier
> Technical Writer
> Anritsu Company, Morgan Hill, California, USA
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RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release) -- first steps with Arabic (RTL)

[Heiko Haida]

 

Dear Maxwell, 

thank you for this announcement and for the many new features of FM
2015, of course. 

I bought a subscription license and just made the very first steps to
use FM 2015 in our XML-based workflow for Arabic documents. The
conversion to Arabic looks very well. Only changing the direction from
RTL to LTR (with the setting of bidi-markers) is different to Indesign
and not so intuitive and handy. 

One point where there might be a small bug: 
Although the structured template is set to "Document > Direction > RTL",
my new FM files based on this template still are set to "LTR"... It
seems that this new property is not correctly transfered during the
structured workflow (unless I am missing sth ...). 

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Maxwell Hoffmann: 

> Robert,
> 
> You can view the following featurette video to get a preview of how 
> Conditional Table Columns work:
> 
> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/framemaker-2015/fm-cond-tbl-cols/ [1]
> 
> I'll post separately on the REGISTRATION pages for LAUNCH WEBINARS for 
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> in English are:
> 
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> - web help custom "skins"
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RE: FrameMaker 2015 Thai formatting

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Kate, 

as Thai does not have spaces between words, you will absolutely need a
native speaker to break lines manually and to split up the text in the
correct way. Given this, is seems obvious that it is not advisable to
use the "justified" setting. 

Until now, there was no feature in FrameMaker -- built-in or accessible
to users -- to deal with this automatically (I would be surprised if
Indesign could do it...). 
I do not think this has changed in FM 2015. Have you worked with Thai
before? 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Kate Williams: 

> Hi Rick, 
> 
> I did check this and there is no Thai option in the language setting in the 
> paragraph format, unlike Arabic and Hebrew which are new additions. The only 
> viable option is None, which does nothing. 
> 
> Kate 
> 
> FROM: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
> SENT: 17 June 2015 16:44
> TO: Kate Williams; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: FrameMaker 2015 Thai formatting 
> 
> Hi Kate, 
> 
> Check the Language of the paragraph format. 
> 
> Rick 
> 
> Rick Quatro 
> 
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> 
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> SUBJECT: FrameMaker 2015 Thai formatting 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm doing some Thai testing in FrameMaker 2015 and while there are no issues 
> with the text displaying correctly, I'm having trouble with the formatting. 
> The paragraph style is fully justified and where in InDesign, the Thai would 
> follow on until the edge of the frame and then flow on to the next line, in 
> FrameMaker the text is breaking after almost every sentence. If it is a long 
> sentence then it will start on the next line completely, even if there are 
> only one or two characters on the previous line. This is leaving massive gaps 
> in the paragraphs. Any suggestions as to how to stop this from happening so 
> that the text flows normally? 
> 
> Many thanks, 
> 
> Kate 
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Re: Purchase question

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hello Bertrand, 

did you check to work with the "Compatibility mode" setting? This is set
for the "exe"-file(s) of older applications and sometimes it may help --
you would choose the "Window XP" mode here. 

Another problem is, that older applications often require admin-rights
for certain folders like the application folder.
Maybe you can check if starting FrameMaker 7 with admin-rights may help.


I think that even FM 7.2 should run on a Win 8 system... 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Bertrand Meyer: 

> This is a newbie question; on the technical side I am not a FrameMaker 
> newbie, having used it for several decades, but I am not familiar with recent 
> versions since I have stuck to old ones which do what I need, on Solaris and 
> Windows. With recent releases of Windows, however, FrameMaker 7.2, which I 
> still use, crashes increasingly often (for example just using the mouse to 
> select text that includes a table invariably causes a crash). That's not 
> sustainable so I need to upgrade. For the most recent version all I saw on 
> Adobe's page is a software-for-rent solution, which is not acceptable. Could 
> someone please recommend a version that is the most recent possible, is 
> available for purchase, works reliably on recent versions of Windows (Windows 
> 8.1, soon Windows 10), will take older *.fm files, generate MIF, and retain 
> the traditional FrameMaker advantages? 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> -- Bertrand Meyer
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Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Tammy, 

I remember that, a long time ago, I had the same problem
with a FM 7.2 installation. 

For reasons I ignore FM created log-files
for any file operation in the windows temp folder, many thousands of
them in only a few months, in the course of which any kind of
file-handling became slower and slower. 

Maybe you could check this.

Unfortunately I do not remember where exactly these files were located
and what extension they had. But if once you know this you can delete
them easily from time to time to regain the usual speed. (-- Other
question would be why these files were produced...) 

Best regards -


Tino H. Haida. Berlin 

Tammy Van Boening: 

> Thank you to everyone
for all their insight into this issue. I have received a myriad of
onlist and offlist responses, and they range from others having
identical issues and not being able to resolve them to some resolution
depending on if you turned off graphics, pods, etc. One interesting
comment that was made to me offlist on a few occasions was that the
problem seemed to really come to the forefront after the last few rounds
of Windows updates, and that is truly something that I have noticed as
well. A few people commented that overall FM 10 response in almost every
aspect was noticeably slowed after this last round of updates and this
was working local or w/ both the files and graphics stored on a network.
For now, I am going to keep all pods closed and be somewhat thankful
that I am pretty keyboard driven for commands (which harks back to my
days on older versions of FM and my age in general J). I really do need
to keep the graphics displayed as I write for a variety of reasons, but
if that ultimately becomes the real showstopper, I will just have to
work my way around that as well. I am sooo tired of all these issues
w/ newer versions of FM. FM 7.2 and 8.0 were just as solid as a rock and
quality just seems to be going downhill exponentially w/ every
subsequent release. 
> 
> Thanks so much again everyone. 
> 
> Regards,

> 
> TVB

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Scaling Images

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Ed, 

instead of using "impsize" you could try "dpi". This
attribute would at least respect the ratio of the imported graphic file.


The definition of "dpi" in the attlist is:
dpi NMTOKEN #IMPLIED

(as described in the STRUCTURE
APPLICATION DEVELOPER GUIDE) 

It would also produce a kind of scaling:

A graphic file originally designed for 300 dpi would have a smaller
representation if "dpi" is set to 400.
Of course, all files should have
equivalent resolution settings. 

I don't know how FrameMaker will
handle a dpi-related "size" with a PDF, though...
I have only used this
for tiff files. 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Am 2013-08-15
02:28, schrieb Ed Nodland: 

> I have 130 images created in Illustrator
and saved as PDFs 
> In my XML I have image tags such as: 
>  
> without the impsize attribute
> 
> My Read/Write rules is 
> 
>
element "img" { 
> is fm graphic element "mygraphic"; 
> attribute "src"
is fm property file; 
> attribute "width" is fm property width; 
>
attribute "height" is fm property height; 
> attribute "position" is fm
property position; 
> } 
> 
> The images saved as PDF are larger than I
want. I can add impsize attributes to all of the image tags, but I'll
have to be careful to get the width-height ratio correct. 
> 
>
Question: Is there a scale attribute to define and use or a similar
mechanism. Or, maybe someone knows how to produce scaled PDF outputs. 
>

> Thanks 
> Ed

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Autonumbering Puzzle for an Ordered List Numbering Scheme

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Alex, 

the main problem is to have a bullet big enough for a
number with two digits. 

I produced a test font, where the bullet is
very big and starts below the normal font line. 

Everything else works
fine. The bullet character tag gets around -42% for the distance which
will pull the following numbered paragraph on top. 

Of course, this
will only help until you reach the number 100. 

I will send you my
examples off-list. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin


Alex.Lukes at sce.com: 

> Greetings, fellow Framers. 
> 
> Two of us in
the office have tried many ways to get autonumbering to work properly in
a run-in head configuration, but we're getting very strange results, no
matter what we do. 
> 
> As shown below, the autonumbering works fine up
to "9," but then goes to "01," "11," "21," and so forth. (As you can
see, we also have centering issues to eventually resolve.) 
> 
> What
you are looking at is a glyph in "Bullet" Paragraph Tag (autonumber =
B:?t). "Bullet" is a run-in paragraph. 
> 
> The next tag is "Bullet
Number" (autonumber = N:tt) or (N:tt). This is a non-run-in
paragraph. 
> 
> We've experimented with resets and changes to series
designations between the run-in and the non-run-in paragraphs, but
nothing we've tried so far has worked. The best we've managed is to
produce a "10," but the "10" appears at the beginning of the list,
followed by numbers 1 through 9, and then numbers that increment in 10s,
as before; that is, "01," "11," "21," and so forth. 
> 
> Does anyone
happen to have a solution for this? 
> 
> I would really appreciate some
help. 
> 
> I suppose it doesn't make any difference, but we are using
FrameMaker 11. 
> 
> Alex Lukes
> Communications Specialist
> T&D
Standards & Publications
> Southern California Edison 
> 
>
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[Heiko Haida]

Hi Eugene, 

sometimes I have similar problems with file visibility
in Windows Explorer of Windows 7, but not directly connected to working
with FrameMaker. I have to wait a while or restart the Explorer until
files show up (again) after moving them. 

I think, the main aspect is
that your actions cause the files to be modified. Windows 7 has some new
features for caching recent files - maybe this causes your trouble.


You might look into this: -->
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff686200.aspx 

Although I
never liked FrameMaker 9 very much, I do not think it is FM to be
blamed. 

Best regards and good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Eugene
Ingram Jr: 

> The publications department where I work has experienced
a persistent file deletion bug using Adobe FrameMaker 9 (version
9.0p255) for the past few months. The bug only occurs when opening
FrameMaker books from the network share drive in Windows 7. This network
share drive appears identical to a local drive. When copying FrameMaker
projects to the local hard-drive the problem does not occur. However,
it's essential to work off the network share drive so that other writers
see FrameMaker locked files and do not work on those files
simultaneously. 
> 
> Steps to reproduce issue follow. 
> 
> Scenario
#1: 
> 
> * Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated
FM files are contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> *
Generate a TOC.
> 
>> Result: Files in book randomly disappear from
FrameMaker project folder. After restoring the files and running the TOC
again, files randomly vanish again. I use the phrase "randomly vanish"
because which files vanish is unpredictable and constantly changing
every time the TOC is generated.
> 
> Scenario #2: 
> 
> * Open a
FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files are
contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> * Highlight
all the files in the book.
> * Select View > Hide Conditional Text
Indicators.
> 
>> Result: Similar to Scenario #1.
> 
> Scenario #3: 
>

> * Open a FrameMaker book file (where the book and associated FM files
are contained in a file folder) on the network share drive.
> *
Highlight all the files in the book.
> * Select Format > Document >
Change Bars.
> * Modify any setting(s) within the Change Bars Properties
dialog box.
> * Click Set.

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[Heiko Haida]

Well, as far as I know, FrameMaker was never quite *the* dtp-tool famous
for adequate color-handling. 

The first version that does have a color management independent of the
Window GDI being capable of real CMYK colors is FM 10. So, if specific
color is needed, the best would be working with eps. 

On the other hand, the newer Acrobat versions have a built-in function
(print production tool) for "color conversion". You may set everything
e.g. to "dot-gain 15%". Dot-gain is a grayscale profile. Look on the
adobe forums for more information. 

There are other tools that provide this conversion on PDF files, like
the Quite suite or PitStop. I would always produce a color PDF first and
reduce color to grayscale in a second step. 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Steve Rickaby: 

> At 12:53 -0600 13/12/13, Mike Wickham wrote:
> 
>> This may be a wild stab, but how is color management set up in your PDF 
>> .joboptions file? (In Distiller, choose "Default Settings", then Settings> 
>> Edit Adobe PDF Settings> Color tab> Color Management Policies). (May be 
>> different in your old Acrobat version) Some of those settings, as I recall, 
>> will change grayscale to color (such as "Tag Everything for Color 
>> Management). You probably want it set to "Leave Color Unchanged."
> 
> As a default I'm using 'Press Quality', which in v 6 does have color 
> management set to 'Leave color unchanged'.
> 
> My guess is that this is all something to do with FrameMaker's JPEG import 
> filters. The clue is that it does not happen for a TIFF version of any of the 
> problem images when converted from JPEG to TIFF outside of FrameMaker and 
> embedded as TIFFs. It seems to be peculiar to JPEGs.
> 
> As Sherlock Holmes used to say, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, 
> whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.' (Or something like 
> that).
> 
> -- 
> Steve
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[Heiko Haida]

Hi Elchanan, 

I think this is your job... 

It is hard to say from the distance, but I think there may be two main
problems for printing: a) a missing trimbox and b) missing cropmarks.
This depends on the output intent and on the agreements with your print
shop. 

a) 
For printing, we are in touch with 3 print shops, all of them favor
PDF/X3 (or X4). 

I found that FrameMaker 8 does not supply valid PDF/X3 by itself -- even
with the matching Distiller profile, if it is used in "default"
configuration.
Acrobat preflight tells that all necessary "BOXES" are missing (that is
mainly the trimbox) and will stop, leaving the PDFs as useless as they
were before. 

The information about cropbox and trimbox may be essential for your
print shop. Simply cropping pages in Acrobat does not necessarily add
the correct trimbox. It will only change what you see onscreen. 

To get valid PDFs for print: 

You can either set box sizes via "pdfmark" information.
Or you change your distiller profile: go to Standard, set the
Compatibility option to PDF/X3. 
This will make the options for trimbox and cropbox available - you have
to enter the margins of your FM files without/with a suitable bleed. You
may have to try out if the result is ok -- hopefully your left/right
page setting is still working. 
(Settings here in the distiller profile will only allow one single value
for each size.) 

Finally you should always use the Acrobat preflight correction to obtain
valid PDF/X3 files!

b)
Cropmarks may also be essential for printing.
It may be a problem to supply cropmarks if the real page size and the
effective size differ (so much). I guess that FM will always place
cropmarks according to the total size = 8.5x11 in. 
If this is so, the best would be to draw the lines yourself on the
master pages of your template or to switch to another template with the
correct (final) page size. 
Some tools like PitStop may be able to put cropmarks on the PDF pages in
batch mode. 

Please also note: 
CMYK color will always be changed to different values unless you use EPS
(first FM version to handle this correctly is FM 10). If exact color is
necessary for your prints, the PDFs should be made with FM 10 (or 11). 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

VLM TechSubs: 

> Greetings everyone, 
> 
> I've created a book in FrameMaker, consisting of about 25 Frame files. There 
> is nothing extraordinary about the book, just chapters, mostly text, a ToC, 
> an index, and some standard front matter. Using FM 8 on Win 7. 
> 
> The book is to be printed in a 6"x9" format. In the Frame template, I used 
> 8.5 x 11 pages, then set the margins large enough, so that the text, headers, 
> footers, etc. would all fit perfectly inside a 6.9 page, including the 
> margins on the 6.9 page. I assumed that a print shop would be able to take 
> such a PDF file and put it on press on any machine that print shop has. 
> 
> Now, the print shop, with which I have no direct contact, apparently says it 
> can't use that, wants me to convert the book to 6.9 pages. I say 
> "apparently", because this is a game of telephone, and I actually have no 
> idea what the print shop actually said. Charming, eh? :)
> 
> 1. Does my assumption, namely, that a print shop should be able to take the 
> PDF I created and put it up on any reasonable press, make sense? (I ask, 
> because I need to decide whether I should "fix" this on my nickel or theirs. 
> If I'm making a reasonable assumption, then theirs; if not, then of course, 
> mine.)
> 
> 2. If I need to change the page size in FrameMaker and recreate the PDF, am I 
> better off changing the template and importing it into the existing book 
> files, or am I better off changing the template and then pasting the content 
> into the template, one chapter at a time, resaving each file as I go? Or is 
> there a third, better option? (It's a one-off project, no one is going to pay 
> to automate anything, whatever is done, will be done manually.) Also, if I 
> end up doing this, is there something special I need to know WRT Acrobat 
> settings I would use in FrameMaker? 
> 
> Thank you kindly, 
> 
> Elchanan

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Replicate groups of files

[Heiko Haida]

Hi John, 

with FM 10 the hierarchical organisation of files in a book was added
(folders, groups, or books within books). Using a folder, group, or book
with 5 files for each scenario may help to make navigation easier. 

You would duplicate the files on the hard disk (e.g. together with a
scenario-related book) and put them into a new folder (or new book)
simultaneously. 

(A remaining question would be, of course, why you would need all files
of all scenarios in one book...) 

Best regards and Happy New Year - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com: 

> Hi, guys...
> 
> I have a book with maybe 700 files. Our product is composed of multiple
> rules, or scenarios. Each scenario has five documents.
> 
> Every time we add another scenario, maybe 20-30 per month, I replicate each
> of the five documents and add them to the book individually. What I would
> like to do is replicate a template set of the five files for each scenario
> in one action, then modify the files for the specific scenario.
> 
> Any ideas on how I could approach this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John X Posada
> AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics
> | HSBC North America Holdings Inc
> 330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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[Heiko Haida]

Hello Art, 

well, I do not see any disadvantages in using the "save
as pdf" option. 

Quite the contrary: The resulting PDF will by default
have exactly the same page size as the Frame file. This is very helpful
if you're switching much between different and unusual formats. 

And
the best is: "Saving" the PDF will be about 10 times faster than writing
a postscript file. 

I am often producing postscript files with 1 GB or
more - instead of half an hour this only takes a few minutes. 

Best
regards 

Tino H. Haida 

> A few others in the forum are likely to
disagree but I think it sucks. :-) 
> 
> There have always been
issues with it over the years and releases, so much so that I just quit
using it myself (still have to use it to debug for others) in the FM7
time frame because it was too buggy. It has always used an arcane
interface that, when it works, uses a totally different method of
specking and creating the PDF file than printing to the Acrobat logical
printer instance. It is much improved in the 11 release, but I still
haven't gotten into the habit of using it at all. 
> 
> I follow the
KISS principle and just print to the Acrobat printer. It's more
controllable and more stable, IMHO than its evil twin.
> 
> Bottom line
is if the SaveAs PDF isn't working for you, try printing to the Acrobat
printer instead; it's become a basic debugging step to determine if the
problem is in the output generation or in the files.
> 
> Cheers,
>
Art
> 
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
> "... In my opinion,
there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl."
-- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358
> 
> I support
www.TheGrotonLine.com [1], hyperlocal news for Groton MA. 
> 
> On Wed,
Feb 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> 
>>
On 2/13/2013 8:02 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> In particular, if you
get the same results printing
>>> to the Adobe Acrobat logical printer
as when you use SaveAs PDF
>>> (which I wouldn't recommend).
>> Art,
>>

>> Are you saying that SaveAs PDF is not good?
>> 
>> Theresa



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[Heiko Haida]

Hello Fred, 

I just tried: printing to the PDF printer uses the
standard size, e.g. DIN A4, if this is set. Which is absolutely not what
the "save as PDF" option does. 

So I would have to go to the settings
to adjust over and over again. It does not seem an efficient method, as
I am dealing with many different formats... 
Or did I miss something
here? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida 

Am 2013-02-14 21:04, schrieb
Fred Ridder: 

> Art never recommended that you write a PostScript
file.
> What he recommended is that you *print* to the Adobe PDF virtual
printer. This creates a PDF file directly, but uses a predictable set of
Distiller settings (unlike Save As PDF, which is affected by setting in
at least three different locations if I recall correctly). Printing to
the Adobe PDF virtual printer takes essentially the same amount of time
that the Save As PDF method does; the last time I tested the two methods
against one another, printing to the Adobe PDF printer was faster than
Save As PDF about 1/3 of the time and was only significantly slower on
one test document.
> And printing to the Adobe PDF virtual printer does
use the page size defined in FrameMaker, just as Save As PDF does.
> 
>
-Fred Ridder
> 
> -
> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013
01:32:23 +0100
> From: info at heiko-haida.de
> To:
framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: cannot generate PDF
> 
>
Hello Art,
> well, I do not see any disadvantages in using the "save as
pdf" option.
> Quite the contrary: The resulting PDF will by default
have exactly the same page size as the Frame file. This is very helpful
if you're switching much between different and unusual formats.
> And
the best is: "Saving" the PDF will be about 10 times faster than writing
a postscript file.
> I am often producing postscript files with 1 GB or
more - instead of half an hour this only takes a few minutes.
> Best
regards 
> Tino H. Haida
> 
>> A few others in the forum are likely to
disagree but I think it sucks. :-) 
>> 
>> There have always been
issues with it over the years and releases, so much so that I just quit
using it myself (still have to use it to debug for others) in the FM7
time frame because it was too buggy. It has always used an arcane
interface that, when it works, uses a totally different method of
specking and creating the PDF file than printing to the Acrobat logical
printer instance. It is much improved in the 11 release, but I still
haven't gotten into the habit of using it at all. 
>> 
>> I follow the
KISS principle and just print to the Acrobat printer. It's more
controllable and more stable, IMHO than its evil twin.
>> 
>> Bottom
line is if the SaveAs PDF isn't working for you, try printing to the
Acrobat printer instead; it's become a basic debugging step to determine
if the problem is in the output generation or in the files.
>> 
>>
Cheers,
>> Art
>> 
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>> "... In my
opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD
358
>> 
>> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com [1], hyperlocal news for
Groton MA. 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Theresa de Valence
 wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/13/2013 8:02 AM, Art Campbell
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In particular, if you get the same results
printing
>>>> to the Adobe Acrobat logical printer as when you use
SaveAs PDF
>>>> (which I wouldn't recommend).
>>> Art,
>>> 
>>> Are you
saying that SaveAs PDF is not good?
>>> 
>>> Theresa
> 
>
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[Heiko Haida]

Hello David, 

lately I have a similar problem: double-clicking
takes vey long to start the application and to open the file,
whereas the normal Open dialog from within the application works as
usual. 

This is not always the case, but if, then it happens with any
application, also MS Word, Excel and so on. 
Here it helped to uncheck
the DDE option for those file-types (which is not possible for
Frame-files), but today I saw that the option is checked again
mysteriously. 

So my guess about this would be that its rather a
problem with the OS or with the network, not necessarily with
FrameMaker.
FM seems to expect a quick answer from the OS and handles
the delay as file error (my interpretation, only a guess). 

I am using
Windows XP here, by the way.
If someone has an explanation to this
problem, I would also be very glad. 

Best regards 

Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 

Am 2013-02-25 16:33, schrieb David Artman: 

> Hi, all;
> 
>
Latest, out-of-the-blue functional bug on FM8.0p277, Win 7:
> 
> 1)
Navigate to working folder for project [just like every day].
> 2)
Double-click BOOK file.
> FrameMaker opens, them immediately displays
the following message:
> "Cannot find the file named __. Make sure that
the file exists.
> 3) Click OK on that message.
> 4) On the FrameMaker
menu, click File > 1 [file_name].
> FrameMaker immediately displays the
same error message as in step 2, 
> then FrameMaker displays the Open
dialog, at the project folder root 
> (i.e., last folder to which I
wrote files).
> 5) Double-click the BOOK file in the Open dialog.
> The
BOOK file opens in FrameMaker.
> 
> Same behavior if I try to do the
above with a standalone FM file.
> 
> I have, over the course of days,
installed software that does various
> things to interface with the
hardware that I am documenting, so it's
> possible something went
pear-shaped with Windows. I'm *inclined* to
> blame FM because (a)
Windows knows the BOOK should open Frame, and sends
> it to Frame, and
only THEN does Frame claim not to find it; and (b) it's
> FrameMaker 8.
By Adobe. So, yeah
> 
> Any ideas what I could do to repair
whatever's gone wrong? I'm comfy
> manipulating INI file and the Windows
Registry. But I can't reinstall
> FM8, though I *have* rolled back and
reapplied all patches (p266 is 155
> MB, so I imagine it's pretty
thoroughly updating everything). This
> problem persists through daily
reboots.
> Thanks in advance;
> David
>
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[Heiko Haida]

Hello Thomas, 

most of our PDF files are produced with visible
printer marks (FrameMaker 8, Acrobat 9 Pro, Win XP). 

In some cases,
pages will be trimmed irregularly like you mention it.
So when checking
the PDF file I always set this back to zero for all pages just to be
sure. 

I have no idea at the moment why this happens, but until now I
could still handle it. 
Of course it would be embarassing if hundreds of
files were affected or if the output was produced without any
possibility for manual correction. 

It would be great to find out more
about this ... 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida 

Thomas Scalise: 

>
Esteemed colleagues, 
> 
> I am running FrameMaker 10 and Adobe
Distiller 11 on WIN 7 Professional. I have a simple manual with a Title
Page, a TOC, and 11 chapters. The manual is in A4 size. I have created,
and use, Distiller job options for the A4 page size. 
> 
> When I make a
PDF ( using Save as PDF), the Title page, the TOC, and Chapters 1, 9 10,
and 11 all format correctly. Chapters 2-8, however, format with the top
of the page trimmed off (the page size reverts to 8.5 X 11). The same
thing happens if I Print the manual to a postscript file and run the
Distiller against that file. 
> 
> I should say that using the same
Distiller settings against another A4 manual, the results are completely
correct. No shorter pages in the PDF. 
> 
> Has anyone faced this
problem? I have not seen it before, and I have made PDFs from many A4
size manuals. It looks as though starting with Chapter 2 the page size
is changed in the Distiller to 8.5 X 11 and then changed back to A4
starting with Chapter 9. Is there something that I have inadvertently
done in those chapters that is causing this Distiller behavior? To my
knowledge I have done nothing different in FrameMaker than I have done
before in creating a manual (nothing I am aware of, at any rate). 
> 
>
I came here rather than going to the Adobe forums, which are byzantine
in access and glacial in pace. Thanks is advance for any help you can
give. 
> 
> Tom 
> 
> TOM SCALISE 
> 
> Manager, Technical Documentation

> 
> Cross Match Technologies, Inc. 
> 
> 3950 RCA Boulevard, Suite
5001 
> 
> Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 
> 
> U.S.A. 
> 
> T +1 561 622
5416 
> 
> F +1 561 622 9938 
> 
> thomas.scalise at crossmatch.com

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OT: FM and InDesign

[Heiko Haida]

Hello Alison, 

I don't know of any direct way of importing or
converting within the Adobe products. 

But I recently converted some
FrameMaker mif files to Indesign with the "Mif Filter"-plugin for
Indesign (by dtptools). 

After installing the plugin, mifs will be
visible in the Indesign "open file" dialog and can be opened (but not
saved or otherwise exported), allowing to test the plugin resp. the
files for suitability. If you want to convert, i.e. if you want to save
as Indesign file(s), you have to buy credits on a per-page basis.


There are some limitations due to conceptual differences between
FrameMaker and Indesign layouts, but I found it extremely useful, so you
should give it a try. 

Make sure you are not using to many local format
overrides because each of these will produce new formats like eg.
body001, body002, ...
So it pays off to prepare the FrameMaker files
thoroughly. 

More informations: -->
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid&more=features 

Best regards
- 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin (Germany) 

Alison Craig: 

> I don't use
InDesign at all, so can someone tell me if it's possible to open FM9
files in InDesign? 
> 
> I'm hoping as they're both Adobe products,
there's some kind of support. 
> 
> Alison

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[Heiko Haida]

Hi Rick, 

I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table
navigation was "OFF". 

Your suggestion is to add: 

>
>
>
> 

In FM 8, I had a
modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added these 4 lines
to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation via key arrows is now
ON! 

In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so I created this file with
these 4 lines as the only content => table navigation is now ON! 

So
everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you!


Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

> Hi Fred, 
> 
> I
specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they
worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the
modify sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem
specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. 
> 
>
Rick 
> 
> FROM: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
> SENT:
Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM
> TO: rick at rickquatro.com;
syed.hosain at aeris.net; alison.craig at ultrasonix.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables 
> 
> Thanks Rick and Syed.
> 
> In my poking around earlier
today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and tried to reassign the
MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more convenient shortcut
keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the 
definition, or added a  command, those two MoveIP commands
refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, as do
MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two
commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the
move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to
reach for the mouse every damn time.
> 
> What's frustrating is that I
*know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one
mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when Adobe saw fit to
impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on us with
version 9.0. Sigh...
> 
> I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe,
but every time I have done it in the past has been an exercise in
ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one and two
hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15 minutes. And
ever since software development and maintenance was moved to Bangalore,
the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was that "we
fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to work".
Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with how
other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved
differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures
and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job
security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their
operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another day...
> 
>
Thanks for your efforts, guys.
> 
> Fred Ridder 
> 
>> From:
rick at rickquatro.com
>> To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net;
Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com; docudoc at hotmail.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>> 
>> Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
>>
these lines:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

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[Heiko Haida]

Hi all, 

I checked with "alt-key + shift-key + arrow-keys", that
would work (alt/shift+arrow does not seem to have another function when
the cursor is placed in the text). 

>
>
>
> 

Best regards - 

Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 

> Hi Rick, 
> 
> I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9
installations - table navigation was "OFF". 
> 
> Your suggestion is to
add: 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>

> In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I
added these 4 lines to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation
via key arrows is now ON! 
> 
> In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so
I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content => table
navigation is now ON! 
> 
> So everything's fine and working in these
older FM-versions. Thank you! 
> 
> Best regards - 
> 
> Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 
> 
>> Hi Fred, 
>> 
>> I specifically tested the four I modified
with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't
test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test
them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't
exactly right. Thanks. 
>> 
>> Rick 
>> 
>> FROM: Fred Ridder
[mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
>> SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11
AM
>> TO: rick at rickquatro.com; syed.hosain at aeris.net;
alison.craig at ultrasonix.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> SUBJECT:
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables 
>> 
>> Thanks Rick and Syed.
>> 
>>
In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg
and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to
more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed
the  definition, or added a  command, those two
MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight
both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but
not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just
have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better
than having to reach for the mouse every damn time.
>> 
>> What's
frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x
and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI
on us with version 9.0. Sigh...
>> 
>> I suppose I *should* report this
bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an
exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one
and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15
minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved
to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was
that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent
with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker
now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully
designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked
it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut
down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another
day...
>> 
>> Thanks for your efforts, guys.
>> 
>> Fred Ridder 
>> 
>>>
From: r...@rickquatro.com
>>> To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net;
Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com; docudoc at hotmail.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>>> 
>>> Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
>>>
these lines:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >

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[Heiko Haida]

Hi Nancy, 

I repeated these actions with one of my files -
everything's ok and fine. 

I have FM 10 with all updates on Win XP.


Could you supply the file? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin


Nancy Allison: 

> Hi, Harro. 
> 
> I finally went manually through
each paragraph format and changed the font from TimesNewRoman to Arial
and used Update All and that solved the problem. The system does have
Arial, and most of the paragraphs did not have overrides. 
> 
> I did a
further test: 
> 
> For clarity: The file that seems impervious to
alterations to paragraph tags, whether through .mif or Import, is
ImperviousFile. 
> 
> The file that I use for creating and then
exporting a clean paragraph tag is called AddFormats. In other words, if
I want to modify a paragraph tag in one or more .fm files, I create the
clean tag in AddFormats and then import it from AddFormats into my .fm
files. 
> 
> In my test I: 
> 
> 1. Deleted all paragraph tags from
AddFormats. 
> 
> 2. Successfully imported all the paragraph tags from
ImperviousFile. 
> 
> 3. Deleted all paragraph tags except Title from
AddFormats. (This is the chapter title para tag.) 
> 
> 4. Changed the
color of Title to red. 
> 
> 5. Imported para tags only from AddFormats
to ImperviousFile. 
> 
> Result: The chapter title did not change color
and the Title para tag did not change attributes! 
> 
> I have edited
ImperviousFile and saved it, so it is not locked. 
> 
> What the heck is
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[Heiko Haida]

Hi Nancy, 

now I have been going through your little action list
again. 

What could be crucial here, is to make sure that the para
format is exactly what you want to have in its "basic" definition. 

So
for example you say: 

4. Changed the color of Title to red. 

Ok, you
changed the color - but where? This may somehow only produce an override
definition. You have to "apply to all" (I am sorry, I don't know what
this option next to "apply" is called in the English version). Because
only then you can be sure that also the basic definition of the Title is
affected and that you reimport the changed Title para (with red color
font). Else you would simply reimport exactly the same font definition
as you had imported into the Addformats file at first. 

This may be a
point. What I do not understand, though, is why editing the mif did not
work, as Arial is installed on your system. You might check again how
Arial is exactly referenced in a mif (from a file where Arial is used) -
maybe Harro was right that simply replacing with "Arial" did not take.


Best wishes - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Nancy Allison: 

> Hi, Tino.

> 
> I can't supply the file, unfortunately, since my employer would
not allow it. Thanks for your willingness to help, though. 
> 
> --Nancy

> 
> On 03/21/13, Heiko Haida wrote: 
> 
> Hi
Nancy, 
> 
> I repeated these actions with one of my files -
everything's ok and fine. 
> 
> I have FM 10 with all updates on Win XP.

> 
> Could you supply the file? 
> 
> Best regards - 
> 
> Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 
> 
> Nancy Allison: 
> 
>> Hi, Harro. 
>> 
>> I finally
went manually through each paragraph format and changed the font from
TimesNewRoman to Arial and used Update All and that solved the problem.
The system does have Arial, and most of the paragraphs did not have
overrides. 
>> 
>> I did a further test: 
>> 
>> For clarity: The file
that seems impervious to alterations to paragraph tags, whether through
.mif or Import, is ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> The file that I use for
creating and then exporting a clean paragraph tag is called AddFormats.
In other words, if I want to modify a paragraph tag in one or more .fm
files, I create the clean tag in AddFormats and then import it from
AddFormats into my .fm files. 
>> 
>> In my test I: 
>> 
>> 1. Deleted
all paragraph tags from AddFormats. 
>> 
>> 2. Successfully imported all
the paragraph tags from ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> 3. Deleted all paragraph
tags except Title from AddFormats. (This is the chapter title para tag.)

>> 
>> 4. Changed the color of Title to red. 
>> 
>> 5. Imported para
tags only from AddFormats to ImperviousFile. 
>> 
>> Result: The chapter
title did not change color and the Title para tag did not change
attributes! 
>> 
>> I have edited ImperviousFile and saved it, so it is
not locked. 
>> 
>> What the heck is going on?

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importing HTML into FrameMaker?

[Heiko Haida]

--> http://www.blueberrysoftware.com/htmtomif.htm 

I don't know the
software, but you might give it a try. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida


Am 2013-05-05 10:06, schrieb Shmuel Wolfson: 

> Another option is to
save the webpage to your computer, open it with 
> Word, save it as a
DOC or DOCX file, then open the DOC/DOCX file with Frame.
> 
>
Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On
04-May-13 1:24 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> 
>> I occasionally need to
take content from a MindTouch wiki and add it to a FrameMaker doc. The
wiki source is very basic HTML: h2, h3, p, strong, ul, ol, tables,
that's about it. Is there a tool that will convert HTML to FrameMaker or
MIF? Sort of the reverse of RoboHelp / WebWorks / MIF2Go? I have
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[Heiko Haida]

Dear Rick, 

please allow one note about the "print engine".


FrameMaker is still using the old Distiller engine (at least version
10 does).
I recently had to switch a workflow from Indesign to
FrameMaker and found it annoying that Indesign would produce a valid PDF
right away whereas with FrameMaker I have to correct all PDFs in Acrobat
to produce PDF/X3 with color profile and valid bleed box.
And as
transparency is not fully supported via the Distiller engine, the actual
PDF/X4 format cannot be produced (the favorite format for one of our
printing service companies). 

So finally, I came to think that not
FrameMaker, but Indesign may have one of the best "print engines" - at
least more flexible and more up to date than FrameMaker's. 

Best
regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Rick Quatro: 

> Here is my
suggestion on where to start. I would like a light-weight editor
> where
the user could apply styles, insert tables, images, etc. The styles
>
would be mapped to a schema so that the user could output XML. Then a
full
> copy of FrameMaker could be used as "print engine". You would set
up a
> structured application in full FrameMaker, and import the XML for
print,
> etc.
> 
> The reasons I favor this approach:
> 
> 1) FrameMaker
is currently the best "print engine" on the market for
> producing
high-quality print/PDF output.
> 
> 2) With a light-weight editor, you
would only need one copy of FrameMaker
> for output. The rest of the
writers/editors could use the light-weight
> editor.
> 
> 3) You could
easily exchange content with users of other XML editors as long
> as
everyone is using the same schema.
> 
> 4) This is a realistic "first
step" to a FrameMaker replacement. Anything
> more complex may be too
ambitious and not get too far.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com

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