Since nobody else has chimed in on this one, let me offer a few
comments.
It seems to me that the big advantages of structured authoring
fall into a few general areas:
-enhanced ability to publish content in different forms
(definition A of "single sourcing")
-enhanced ability to reuse content
ady, you wouldn't really be gaining much direct benefit from
using structure, would you?)
-Fred Ridder
>From: russ at weststreetconsulting.com
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: structured Frame
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:08:25 -0700
>
>Fred,
>
>Good
rom: mcarr at allette.com.au
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: structured Frame
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:44:13 +1000 (EST)
>
>
>Fred Ridder wrote:
>
> > There *are* some real benefits, but
> > they tend to be less quantifiable tangible and harder to proove
&g
any lingering Word weirdness.
-Fred Ridder
>From: "Lin Surasky"
>To: "Stuart Rogers"
>CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: Table Cell Alignment
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:03:20 -0500
>
>Hi, Stuart-
>
>You know, I realized this after I
PriceGrabber.com to find
resellers who are offering FrameMaker 7.2.
But one might ask whether you really need the 7.2 upgrade. If I
recall correctly, most of the changes and new features were on
the structured side. The only thing I can recall being added for
unstructured mode was muktiple undo.
Fr
..LOF, ...IX). If the names of the existing generated files
don't follow the pattern, FrameMaker will generate brand-new,
unformatted generated files rather than updating the existing ones.
Fred Ridder
>From: "Kelly McDaniel"
>To:
>Subject: Broken xrefs
>Date: Fri,
And meanwhile, on the HATT list, there's a list member who has
posted nearly two dozen messages complaining beiiterly about
how RoboHelp was not included in the list of Adobe products
in their most recent SEC 10-K filing, nor is it included in the
categorized list of Adobe products in the docume
they wouldn't have made that kind of investment.
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:08:27 -0500> From: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com> To:
> framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: RE: I'm impressed with Adobe> > So,
> I'm preparing presentation to m
This is fairly easy. You just need to control separate counter
elements as for each type of number and include placeholders
as necessary. The only thing unusual is making the step
number an unseparated compound of the chapter number
system variable (<$chapnum>) plus a zero. I've never seen
this
;0< =0>< =0>: Table = N:Figure <$chapnum>0.<
>Figure = N:Table <$chapnum>0.< >
Sorry for any confusion...
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:58:57 +0200> From: yves.barbion at gmail.com> To:
> framers at frameusers.com> CC: > Subject: Re
..
But if anybody knows how to change this behavior, I'd
love to hear about it. I tried to find it in the online help,
but it was completely useless (what was I thinking??).
-Fred Ridder
> From: docudoc at hotmail.com> To: yves.barbion at gmail.com; framers at
frameusers.com> Date
l case. With less compliant
source material there is certainly going to be more hand work
to clean up the mapping.
-Fred Ridder
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Rebecca Officer asked:> Anyone know how to get it? The cudspan website seems to
have
> vanished off the face of the web. :-(
get any of the Word
paragraph format definitions, either.
-Fred Ridder
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uot;sampler" template, it takes less than 5
minutes to change all the fonts in a whole bookful of files
that use the same tag set.
-Fred Ridder
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srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Because a figure or table can float away from its anchor
> during pagination, this can result in invalid sequences of
> paragraph tags, such as two consecutive lead-in paragraphs.
Many iof us simply avoid using the Float option for reasons like
this.
dspreadb at yahoo.com asked:
> What is wrong with using the Watched Folders feature of Acrobat Distiller.
>
> Install Distiller on the remote server and have it launch whenever the
> server is booted. Print your postscript files to the IN watched folder.
> Distiller will automatically place the
Art Campbell wrote (in part):
> The easiest way to open a Word file in Frame is not to... Instead,
> save Word as an RTF and open that. (Note that I'm saying Open -- not
> Import. Import implies that the file is imported as an object within
> Frame, which isn't what you should be trying to do.)
I
Jim Owens wrote:
> I've just tested this. For what it's worth, if your Figure Titles are
> not in anchored frames in the main flow (for example, if you've placed
> them in graphics frames containing text frames for the captions, or in
> text frames containing anchored frames for the graphics),
how examples as well as identifying the template version
by number and/or date.
-Fred Ridder
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This is only a test to see if the list server is awake yet.
Brad says everything *looks* fine from his end, so maybe
all is well again.
-FR
Don Rinderknecht wrote:
> I'm generating a large book. In one of my files I get this error in the
> book error log:
> "Show/Hide setting for PrintVersion is inconsistent."
>
> I can't figure out what causes this one. Any ideas?
It's pretty straightforward.
At least two of the files in your b
owed by a hyphen
without the quotes) didn't work? That's the standard code for typing a
discretionary hyphen in plain-text dialog boxes. See Appendix A of the
FrameMaker User Guide for a full list of dialog box codes for special
characters.
-Fred Ridder
e"
option *cannot* be set from the individual file's Pagination dialog
because only the "Left" and "Right" options make sense in that
context. You can *only* choose "Next Available" via the book
window's Pagination dialog because that option only makes sense
when there is a preceding file.
-Fred Ridder
default rather than any property that is set in the file.
And as others have noted, having the structured interface as the default does
not preclude you from working normally with non-structured files.
-Fred Ridder
TOC file itself. I'll bet you
that you find the ...TOC tags included in that PDF bookmark list.
-Fred Ridder
gs stating
with T.
Other than a wholesale renaming of the paragraph tags
in our templates and all documents based on them to
change the hyphens to spaces, I guess we'll just have
to get used to typing the hyphen whenever we use the
F9 shortcut. Sigh...Fred Ridder
o SP2).
Fred Ridder
Peter Gold wrote:> Just off the top of my head I wonder if the change is from
an ASCII
> sort order to a Unicode sort order.
>
> Have you tried choosing a different character set for your OS (I'm on
&
order is the result of a *deliberate*fix*
for the sort order in p277. I guess the way the catalogs always used
to be sorted was suddenly deemed "improper". Bah!!
-Fred Ridder
;Paragraph",
FrameMaker interprets the string as a character tag name that is not
defined in the current document's character catalog and does nothing.
But there is also an undocumented syntax for default paragraph font
in markers and variable definitions that is a lot shorter, namely .
-Fred Ridder
on. If you do not want this to happen, you might want to investigate
a third-party plug-in that allows you to selectively import format properties.
-Fred Ridder
Art Campbell wrote:> I'd guess that there's something on page 57 that either
is, or
> contains, something that can't be distilled...
>
> Maybe a graphic?
Umm, wouldn't the offending object be on page 58? Doesn't Distiller
report the number of the last page that it was able to process
successfu
didn't fix it. The font name was nowhere to be found in the MIF,
either, but converting the MIF back to FM *did* fix the problem. Eventually
I found that there had been a new text frame added on one of the the
reference pages that somehow had a meaningless, extraneous font spec
attached to
eMaker winds up doing the equivalent of a book
update each time you change a name, but it's still a *LOT*
faster than having to rebuild all the x-refs that got broken.
-Fred Ridder
hanged filenames, his files contain incorrect paths to markers that are OK
as they are.
-Fred Ridder
rent sixe), what you actually get will exactly resemble
the font, size, and formatting from the original Body paragraph.
Happy New Year,-Fred Ridder
FrameMaker Print dialog.
Without that capability, you are sacrificing significant
functionality by using PDF Converter rather than the
Acrobat tool suite.
-Fred Ridder
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Pete Rourke asked several questions:
> I am using Snagit (default image resolution 96dpi, and saving as .jpg) to
> capture screenshots for a end user manual which assumes the user needs
> visual walkthrough of using a desktop application and a pocket pc.
>
> There are 2 outputs intended:
>
> 1.
formatting definitions
that you want to use going forward? It may take a little time
and effort to design the clean template, but after that it
should only take a few minutes to do the file import and save
as operations to create clean versions of a whole bookful of
component
Use a user variable. That's what they're designed for.> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008
10:02:15 -0600> From: deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> To: framers at
lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Find and Replace cross references> > Good
morning fellow Framemaker Users!> > You didn't think a day would pass without
Deirdre Reagan wrote:> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in
the form of a statement.
>
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
>
> Discuss.
Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in
common is that they are methods
that
they do not always have to be in separate files. My system used
a multi-flow source document that had all 50 book titles in separately
defined, named text flows. Just remember to keep the flow names
short unless you feel like using Re
of. The
only time you can be certain the book file contains accurate page counts
is right after you've instructed it to scan all the component files by
performing an Update Book.
-Fred Ridder
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own process, I also removed all graphics from the
Word file because they really slowed the conversion down and I knew
we were going to replace the pasted-in images with anchored frames
and referenced graphics post-conversion.
-Fred Ridder
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> > ~Jennifer> >
-Original Message-> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:20 PM> To: Mike Feimster; Flato, Gillian;
Framers List> Subject: R
y structure when you
deliver the PDFs. If not, then Acrobat will not be able to find the
target file when the reader tries to follow an inter-book link.
-Fred Ridder
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IN responding to Pete, Peter wrote
> You want to look at the free Tocbreaker plug-in from Cudspan. It's a
> little hard to find. Search with Google for tocbreaker cudspan
> framemaker tools and variations. I think leximation.com has a list of
> FM utilities and contacts.
The free Cudspan plug-ins
James Dyson asked:> Does anyone know how to make a non-breaking space in a
cross reference?
> I'm using unstructured 7.1. I'm stumped.
Appendix A of the User Guide is your friend. To type a non-breaking space
in a dialog box, you type a backslash followed by a space
fessional version of
Acrobat, not in the Standard version. Presumably they are also
supported in the 3D version of Acrobat 8.0, since that product
is supposed to be a superset of Acrobat 8.0 Professional.
Fred Ridder
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Put your friends o
of user variables.
If any variable's name is already defined in the second document,
the paste operation will only insert a reference to the existing variable
without changing its definition.
-Fred Ridder
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\t, which would require two tab stops to be defined on the Basic
tab of the Paragraph Designer.
Fred Ridder
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obat 8.0.
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talogs),
but any unwanted table and x-ref formats and text conditions still need
to be tracked down and retagged before the definition of the unwanted
item can be deleted.
Fred Ridder
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Marta Berman asked:> I know how to close all files in a book
(Shift-->File-->Close All Files in Book)
>and how to save all files in a book (Shift-->File-->Save All Files in Book).
>Anyone know a way to close all files in a book at one time without being
>prompted to save each one (for the case
Glenn Voyles asked:
> Just out of curiosity, does anyone use (or not use) ALT+0169 (or other
> "alt" codes) for any particular reason?
Yup, I use 'em all the time because that was the method I learned in
my pre-FrameMaker days when I had to be a power user of MS Word.
When I transitioned to Fram
Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>I tested this out. In my TOC, all my Chapter Titles have the little
> white box in front of them, and all my chapter subsections (1., a.,
> etc) have a T in front of them. All work as hyperlinks.
>
> In the actual chapter, the Chapter Title with a T or a little white
> box
Joel Wilhelm wrote:
> Jim, I should have been more specific: all the tabs have "Continue From..."
> checked. - JW
If that's the case, but one numbering stream is restarting, the most likely
cause is that there is some other paragraph tag whose format references
that numbering series label and re
the down arrow,
specifically) to highlight the otherwise invisible 2nd item in
the list. But I could be making that up...
-Fred Ridder
e PDF: from the PostScript ("document fonts") or directly
from the font files ("system fonts").
But Adobe certainly could do a better job of explaining this stuff (and
not changing their terminology with every release).
-Fred Ridder
t as convenient as
Ctrl+M, but at least you don't have to reach for the mouse.
-Fred Ridder
agraph
using the $paranumonly building block and a character tag that applies
superscript formatting.
-Fred Ridder
endix A of the FrameMaker User Guide,
you will see that you can type a non-breaking hyphen in
a dialog box using the 2-character code \+. Works in
Find/Replace, when defining cross-reference formats,
when entering marker text--anyplace where you can't
use Escape codes.
Fred Ridder
anged,
but warns you that such changes *might* have occurred.
Fred Ridder
Dave Stamm wrote (in part):
> I'm not so sure it's a problem with Acrobat. I think it might be with
> FrameMaker. Or, more-precisely, with the name of the .fm file.
> I've encountered this problem a few times. After trying every other
> solution, I shortened the name of the .fm file to not more t
Austin Meredith wrote:
> Acrobat Pro 9 is just being released. Since we presently distill our
> FM8 files into PDFs with Acrobat8 -- should we upgrade immediately to
> Acrobat9, or should we "wait for the dust to settle"?
Upgrading to a new version of a tool just because it exists has never ma
Deirdre Reagan asked:
> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> Figure captions?
Tables are well-defined encapsulated objects, and one of the properties
that is defined is an optional Title object. If you define a table format
to include a Title object, every table t
Responding to Deirdre Reagan's original query, Hedley Finger wrote
(in small part):
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> > Figure captions?
>
> You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why
> isn't there a figure
Responding to Peter Kelly, Art Campbell wrote:
> In the book file, when you highlight all chapters except the first
> one, right-click and select Numbering, then pick the Paragraph tab, is
> Continue Numbering the active choice?
>
> If not, make it so, save (and save any files that are open)
Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> I have to create a TOC and one of items I want to list in the TOC is a
> user variable that is located on the master page of my chapters. Is
> it possible to have the TOC pick up a user variable? When we were
> building the TOC, I didn't see that option anywhere, and when
hotmail.com> CC: deirdre.reagan at
gmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: adding user variables
to the TOC> > FWIW, the paragraph tag for our master page footer does show up
in the > paragraphs you can select for the TOC.> > You might have to add it to
the catalog
Stuart Rogers suggested:
> Caveat: I haven't tried this. But suppose you put your XX-XX-XX
> variable in a conditional paragraph ahead of the ChapterTitle paragraph,
> and include both pgfs in your TOC setup (with the first tagged as RunIn
> in the TOC). Show the condition, generate and save t
Responding to my alternative approach, Stuart Rogers wrote (in part):
> I guess the thing to watch is whether inserting the variable pushes the
> title onto two lines, thereby making the pagination different under the
> show vs. hide setting. (If so, then using separate pgfs with negative
> sp
A confused and frustrated Deirdre Reagan wrote (in part):
> 1. If we are crossreferencing back to paragraph tags, and we change
> the source paragraph tag, do we have to keep the fat black T? That
> seems awfully picky, since we just want to double click the line of
> text and type in our new tex
Angela Akridge wrote:
> I'd like to use a special bullet symbol for my bulleted lists. I've chosen
> "Black Right-Pointing Pointer". Using Adobe's "To use a special bullet
> symbol" online help topic, I create my bullet list. I get a question mark
> instead of a pointer:
> Wingdings font works
Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> Speaking on fonts, does anyone have any info on any info on the various
> types of fonts such as TrueType? What are the most common types?
You might start with Wikipedia. The topics to start with are:
Computer_font
Type_1_and_Type_3_fonts
TrueType
OpenType-Fred Ridder
n
PostScript printers, which includes Helvetica, Times, Courier, Avant
Garde, Bookman, Garamond, Palatino, and others. With those soft
fonts in your computer, you can create PDFs that embed the printer-
resident fonts in the PDF itself so that the files can be printed on
any type of printer, PostScript
means that all settings in
the main maker.ini are used except for the specific items that are
included in the personal maker.ini.
Fred Ridder
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because it does not make
any sense for an individual document; it only makes sense in the context
of a multi-file book.
-Fred Ridder
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efine the variable's value
(as a text string) in the numbering properties for the section divider files,
and set each other file's numbering properties to "Same As Previous".
Neat, clean, and easily explained in a simple book setup procedure for
other users.
Fred Ridder
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is not
definitive evidence.
-Fred Ridder
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Responding to Les Winberg, Art Campbell wrote:
> I'd check the file modification times and file sizes for large
> differences, but in general, open the recovered version.
>
> If there's missing info, open the original's backup copy, assuming you
> have auto backups turned on. And then open the or
ther the shared file appears as the first,
fifth, or fiftieth component in the book. This is fundamental to the
FrameMaker book paradigm, and is one of the reasons why
FrameMaker can be used so readily in a single-sourcing environment.
Fred Ridder
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to participate in reviews with complete
commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines,
shapes, and stamps
is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat
product suite.
Fred Ridder
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dard version of
Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the
tech writer preparing docs for review.
The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the "Enable
for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader" command.
-Fred Ridder
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Responding to Maxwell Hoffman's question about how to subscribe to
to the Framers list with the website down, Michael McCallister wrote:
> I just did this recently, and confirmed it works today:
>
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers
>
> It's a web interface to Mailman. The Ar
ay be cases where
it's more convenient to use multi-flow files to contain multiple
separate inset chunks. For example, you may have one file that
contains a half-dozen named flows, each of which contains a
different warning paragraph.
-Fred Ridder
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In responding to Deirdre, Clint Owen wrote:
> That's about right. It's a pain in the neck, but you can't globally open
> or search the master pages.
>
> If all or some of your chapters use the same master pages and the same
> cross-references (like to a part number on the title page), you can fix
Responding to Peter C, mulholland4 wrote (in part):> And remember, when you do
upgrade you can convert the> docs created in 5.5 to the upgrade version,
however you can't go backwards.
Not entirely true. If you save a document as MIF from any version of Frame,
that MIF file can be opened from *
Paul Findon wrote (in part):
> Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all." What he, I and, no doubt,
> others want is "reply-to-list." In other words, when you click your
> Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list.
>
> I've been using lists since 1993 and running several sin
Art Campbell, who is clearly in Friday mode, wrote:
> I'm surprised that no one has commented on how well the FM CDs
> function as mini-Frisbees.
> Get a good spin on one and you can sail it clear across a software
> engineering lab...
> And they make good coasters.
Well, CDs and DVDs do work pr
Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.
\r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...
-FR
Leah Smaller wrote:
> We also use the printer capabilites to produce booklets. We have run into
> one snag.
> The original FM files were produced for printing on A4 size paper and body
> text font size is TNR 10 pt. (of course, all other font sizes - headings,
> etc. - are extrapolated from th
Jim Pinkham asked:
> The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with
> Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the
> fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am
> I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and ce
Commenting on how to import figures from Visio, Milan Davidovic wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell
> wrote:
> > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic
> > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file.
>
> When I had to do thi
Pat Fortino wrote:
>Hi Fred,
>
>Thanks for the reply. The reason I am splitting the chapters is
>that our chapters start out as portrait for several pages and
>then go to landscape. Because I don't know when the break
>will be, I want to use automatic left/right pages to assign the
>landscape
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net asked:
> Can the color of the auto-numbering text be different from the color of
> the text in the body of the paragraph?
>
> Clearly, I want this to be part of the paragraph design in the catalog,
> so that whenever I apply that format onto a given paragraph of text, th
er of applying an
appropriate paragraph tag.
-Fred Ridder
ust go to
the IX reference page and find the SeparatorsIX paragraph. Add a period
(or whetever other character you want to use as an entry terminator)
at the very start of the paragraph, before the separator space. Then
regenerate the index.
-Fred Ridder
define it as a new named format or click Update All to save
it as part of the current format's definition.
-Fred Ridder
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