Hi all,
Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of
you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to
output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the
interface of choice for all Windows based games. It
To me is ok to switch to XAudio2. I dont know about you guys.
Tommy
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From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:03 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi all,
Recently I have
Hi Shaun,
BGT games will not need to be changed at all, but end users will need the
June 2010 version of Direct X in order to play them. XAudio2 does not
support panning natively, however the programmers I hired to write the port
of Streemway from DirectSound to XAudio2 have found a way to
Hi Philip,
I would like you to change to XAudio2, but would it be possible to have
links to those Direct X 9 and Windows 7 updates that you suggested?
I have Vista and have updated to the latest service pack.
thanks,
Phil
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From: Philip Bennefall
Hi Phil,
The best way to make sure you're up to date is to run the Direct X Web
Installer from Microsoft, but I can certainly provide this on my website as
well for people to download. I will also include it if I ever make a
Blastbay Games CD.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
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Oh now I always call a spade a spade unless it's a fork Smile
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list
Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid
plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are
there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen
and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo
hey that's great
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Sorry I'm not much help.
Ron
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oh the version I have of time adventures is put for off the cd.
at least my version is.
It is possible that I did a few things out of order.
I'll try to prepair the stove and the pot then ask, but if I can not
get access to my shopping then I have a problem.
At 01:07 a.m. 3/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi all
well I finally completed time adventures1.
Its a pitty codefactory stopped making games as I think there are
more than one story to tell in this series.
I finally figured out the issues I was having.
The game takes some time depending on where you are to refresh bits and bobs.
Eventually
well switch if you can.
It does mean panning will have to have 3d encoding but tom did manage
it in mota once and it was not to bad.
of cause that probably means that every bgt game created will
probably not work anymore.
I guess you could keep legacy stuff around is it possible to have
both
then if its just libraries I don't have any issue with it.
the directx 9 latest is june 2010 anyway and a lot of games need that anyway.
Change it then.
At 10:16 p.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
BGT games will not need to be changed at all, but end users will
need the June 2010 version of
Yes I agree
Shame no mac version of it but never mind wink
On 3 Mar 2011, at 11:15, dark wrote:
hi Tom.
That's not good, i hope your wife gets better soon.
Personally I am looking forward to level 2 too much to miss out on getting it
for want of a litle patience, in fact I'd be a bit
No, please update. Dragging old technology along if the newer technology
works better is counter productive. Soundcards and audio setups have changed
a lot since 1995.
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The project went down because we'd figured out how to use the product,
we'd created the demonstration podcast, and we gave our contact info
for users to get in touch with us. I still have a copy of my demo
podcast, should anyone want it, just send me an email and I'll
sendspace it to you. Should
Could a check be built in to automatically check for the needed
components, then prompt for download?
I'm certainly OK with switching to the new.
On 3/4/2011 3:03 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote:
Hi all,
Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of
you will know,
We should order one from Pizza Emergency. I mean, a nice big one! They
make a 28-inch pizza.
At Joe Dimagio's in San Francisco, back in the 1980's, they had a lunch
special that you got free of charge if you could eat it all. It was a
single topping pizza, and it did have a lot on it, but
Good grief 36 inch? I hope it was thin crust, a 36 inch deep pan would
make you explode!
with all this talk of pizza, methinks I'll order the barbeque one I
mentioned.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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You might want to reword that, because it looks like your refunding
money for all if your product is purchased.
At 12:40 AM 3/4/2011, you wrote:
Hi. For users who use the App Store and/or iTunes to buy their Apple
software, especially for iOS devices, you are required to pay the
price if
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 02:22:05AM -0600, Tommy wrote:
To me is ok to switch to XAudio2. I dont know about you guys.
[My Reply:]
Well, as long as I don't have to migrate past Windows XP Service
Pack 2, and upgrade to the buggy Service Pack 3. In any case, don't let
me stop you. I
Well as far as that goes. Just look at what is being offered now,
because that is what needs supported.
In windows would go xp and above, because the rest are not supported
or even easy to find.
There are always linix users, but not widely in blind community and
most ssh or tellnet into it.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:54:48PM +, Lori Duncan wrote:
Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a
horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules.
[My Reply:]
Hi Lori,
Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known
the
Hello,
Does anyone know of any accessible fantasy baseball games? I know of ones
like ESPN and Yahoo, but I'm not sure which is the most accessible, usable,
etc.
Karl
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Why not make the switch? People should upgrade anyway, make a habit of it.
Maybe you could even incorporate XAudio2 within your installation so the
process is easier to upgrade. Just my 2 cents.
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Hi Louis,
I don't feel that people should be forced into upgrading.
I believe there should be a check to see which library will successfully
open the audio device. Start with XAudio2. If that fails, switch to
DirectSound. That way, there is no necessity to upgrade, but those who have
upgraded
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I think all you can do is wait for people to actually buy the stuff.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi.
Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours now, and
I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by having the
packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others are much more fun.
They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables.
Hi Michael,
Michael wrote:
Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known
the rules, but he backstabbed you too.
My reply:
Michael, I don't know what your problem with me is, but you are way
off base here. You are not on moderated status so Raul and I have
absolutely
Hi Dark,
Well, as far as the demo of Pinball Clasic goes the blame doesn't fall
on Draconis really. The demo has always used the Packman and Wild West
tables ever since it was first released by ESP which was long before
Josh came along and took it over. I agree with you, however, that some
of the
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Hi Damien,
Could you update your ts pack please?
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Hi Dark, glad I'm not the only who felt like that about packman and the
other game in the demo.
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Hi.
Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours
now, and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by
having the packman and wildwest
Hi Damien,
I'm sure you know this is coming, but I absolutely disagree with this.
For one thing it is not practical to include XAudio2 and DirectSound
in the same executable and it is going to become much harder to
support long term since Microsoft has officially dropped support for
DirectSound 8
Hi Michael,
Michael wrote:
Well, as long as I don't have to migrate past Windows XP Service
Pack 2, and upgrade to the buggy Service Pack 3.
My reply:
What do you mean service pack 3 is buggy? My wife and I have been
running XP sp3 on an old desktop ever since it came out and haven't
Well that makes sense Tom, accept I do regret a litle not buying the game
originally.
When I first tried esp pinball classic back in 2006 when I bought xtreme, my
opinion was that the tables were far simpler than the xtreme ones so I
didn't bother with the game, my mistake as it turns
Hi Casey,
Yes, that is possible to do, but not exactly cheap. It is up to the
setup application to check for installed components and install them.
I haven't had any luck with Inno Setup in testing for these
components, but I do know Advanced Setup Installer will test for
various requirements
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i for one consider michael fair a great friend and i appreciate your
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Hi Shaun,
Not true. Yes, it is true that XAudio2 doesn't have a native pan
control but the way the API is designed it is rather simple to create
a custom pan control for XAudio2 that works exactly like DirectSound.
Philip and I have been discussing this off list, and he has already
made such a
Hi Philip,
Yes, by all means please do. As one of those who has already switched
all but one of my Windows computers to Windows 7 it is a bit unfair to
be held back from buying new games using XAudio2 that will directly
support Windows 7 better just to pander to those Windows users still
running
Hey Thomas,
I'm sorry it really bothers you that much. For a start, it was only a
suggestion to try and be forward, as well as backward compatible and I felt
you were biting my head off so to speak. The tone of your message there I
feel was rather harsh and judgmental, even disdainful, towards
Hi Thomas,
Even if Inno Setup can't internally check for such components, I am sure it
would be possible to check with the Pascal scripting, just by checking for
certain files or registry values, or even better, run the DXSetup tool
directly from the installer using a silent installation, and
Hi Trouble,
Just a little note. Well, it is hard to say how many blind users use
Linux, because not a lot of them are on this list. However, there
seams to be quite a lot over on the Orca mailing list, Speakup mailing
list, Gnome Accessibility List, etc. As a result I have estimated
about 100
Hi Damien,
My apologies. I didn't mean to bite your head off. I shouldn't have
come down on you so harshly. However, allow me to explain my position
a little clearer withouttthe flaming.
First, my issue isn't with the fact people are running older operating
systems like XP. I know full well a
Hi,
Yikes! A 36 inch deep pan pizza?
That would be a truck tire to be sure. Just thinking about trying to
eat something that huge makes me want to puke. Lol!
On 3/4/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Good grief 36 inch? I hope it was thin crust, a 36 inch deep pan would
make you explode!
Hi Charles,
Ummm..Did anyone ever complete the 36 inch pizza?
On 3/4/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
We should order one from Pizza Emergency. I mean, a nice big one! They
make a 28-inch pizza.
At Joe Dimagio's in San Francisco, back in the 1980's, they had a lunch
Beat It Extreme
by Mad Games Inc.
Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You
know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick
someone's butt just because you feel like it? You just want to
sstrangle your next door neighbor because his dog crapped on your
Hey now, that's a game for me. When my neighbors are loud upstairs? o
yeah look out here I come.
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Beat It Extreme
by Mad Games Inc.
Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You
know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick
Hey.
Lol. That sounds like a fun game. I wonder if it could be an audio game.
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Hi Thomas, Thank you very much. I will definitely subscribe to the lists you
mentioned and spread the word.
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Man I want to order this. Thomas, send me your paypal info man. hahahaha
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hey.
Lol. That sounds
Hi,
Sure. No problem. It will talk and play music. At least until you
break the speakers by jumping up and down on it or throw it against
the wall. OOf course, using the explode it option will blow the unit
to pieces,, and I'll have to sell you a new one. Still it might be fun
sticking that
Hi Lelia,
Lol! I can se it now. You doing your own little Joan Jett
impersonation with the thing. Hello, dad. Hello mom. I'm a cherry
bomb. Hello, world. I'm a wild girl. I'm a cherry bomb. Bang!
On 3/4/11, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:
Hey now, that's a game for me. When my
I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been
interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the
ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds
pretty darn appealing just now.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi Bryan,
Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game
is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the
stuffing out of someone. Lol!
On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:
I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about
I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have
now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those
they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio
games.
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Hi Louis,
Glad I could be of some help there. The Orca mailing list would be the
best place to start in my opinion. It is always a good thing to go
straight to the source when getting people intrested in a non-Windows
product or service, because I know from experience such users tend to
sstay
What is dominoes?
I never heard of that in south African pizza places.
Debonairs, hmm, their crush is always too thick but their toppings is nice.
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Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 04 March 2011 04:18
Plot and objective:
Have you heard that glen miller song, chaganooga choo choo?
Well, its telling of this couple that travels on the chaganooga choo choo
train. Only thing is the husband just wants to get onto that train; no
matter who is in the way!
That's why the song says:
Step aside partner,
Hi Yohandy,
Yeah, I definitely agree. Until we actually create some classic
beat-m-up games using BGT or Genesis 3D I doubt many VI gamers will
ever play them. In fact, now that the Genesis 3D engine is pretty much
stable enough for game development I've got a few beat-m-up games in
mind. When I
Hi Nicol,
Dominoes Pizza is the name of a popular restaurant chain in the U.S.
and apparently in the U.K. as well. They sell, well, pizza of course.
And just in case anyone didn't get my joke about a tombstone on their
pizza that is another brand of pizza. Here in the U.S. there is a
brand of
Hi Shaun and all,
Well, besides the fact a large sword or shotgun could throw off your
balance etc there are also other considerations. In the tomb rader
games when Lara jumps a chasm or jumps up to grab a ledge she needs to
grab the ledge with her hands and pull herself up onto the ledge. If
her
Hi Phil and all,
Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised
there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some
point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry
Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast
there are third party tools for inosetup existing round about but I
have never tried them.
At 12:00 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Casey,
Yes, that is possible to do, but not exactly cheap. It is up to the
setup application to check for installed components and install them.
I haven't had any
hmm well the only cherry bomb I know is from the sympsons.
one in the toilet, boom.
At 04:14 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Lelia,
Lol! I can se it now. You doing your own little Joan Jett
impersonation with the thing. Hello, dad. Hello mom. I'm a cherry
bomb. Hello, world. I'm a wild girl. I'm
Tombstone pizzas are good frozen pizzas, too. Big round slices of pepperoni
and a good spicy sauce.
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How's this for a name of the game? Thug Thud.
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Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:32 PM
It would be like one of those tires on a mining truck they use in the
Arizona copper mines. I can stand inside one and not reach the inside of
the tire at the top of the circle. I'm a few feet short. I'm only 5 feet
11.
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Try the Safari table in the set of classic ones and let me know what you
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I wouldn't mind seeing a true, oldschool fully-fledged beat em up in
the final fight style, and I'd make one with BGT myself if I had time
to learn everything and design the sounds and whatnot. But if I do
get that together, that's definitely a project on the list for me...
At 07:38 PM
Agreed as well... and if anyone does decide to tackle that project, I
could lend a hand with design to make the game more interesting...
I've had a lot of ideas I would like to implant into a beat em up,
and being a practicioner of a martial art I could be of some use if a
certain type of
Sorry for double-posting... I meant ones that are in 3d.
At 07:54 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Yohandy,
Yeah, I definitely agree. Until we actually create some classic
beat-m-up games using BGT or Genesis 3D I doubt many VI gamers will
ever play them. In fact, now that the Genesis 3D engine is
I can do sound design for anyone doing beate em ups... I've created a mod
for the now abandonware version of danger city... if anyone, or the whole
list, wants it, send me an email off list
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Hi Clement,
I'm certainly interested in such a project. I guess the next question
is what kind of beat-m-up to right. Most of the ones I enjoyed and
still enjoy are from the NES era such as Batman, Double Dragon, Bad
Dudes, and so on. Those games didn't have a lot of martial arts
weapons. What
By the way tom. Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its philosopher's
stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by that
name... but that's just me. Don't take it personally.
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True that. But it doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy with
different characters though, does it? Double Dragon reputedly had
martial arts in it, and you could, say, change the nationality of the
characters if you are going to change the names as well. In that way,
if they were to be
Fun idea times...
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Sent: 05 March 2011 03:48
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: chaganooga choo choo madness
Plot and objective:
Have you
Lol... change the character you're beating up to my mum and you've got a
real good game there too
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I! want! This! - put it in what you Americans would call the principles
office... lol
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Hi Ben,
Yes, I know. You can blame the naming issue on Scholastic. For reasons
no one will ever understand, including J. K. Rowling herself,
Scholastic insisted that the name be changed for the U.S. market even
though it was being marketed in the U.K. by Bloomsberry as Harry
Potter and the
Hi Tom
Thanks.
I then misunderstood the post I replied to.
I thought dominos is one of the things put on a pizza.
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Hi Clement,
No, it definitely doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy. In fact,
that's a very bad idea considering how fanatical Nintendo is about
their copyrights to begin with. Plus something like Batman has so many
copyrights on it from music, sounds, trademark, etc that would require
some
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