[Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
To me is ok to switch to XAudio2. I dont know about you guys. Tommy - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Shaun, BGT games will not need to be changed at all, but end users will need the June 2010 version of Direct X in order to play them. XAudio2 does not support panning natively, however the programmers I hired to write the port of Streemway from DirectSound to XAudio2 have found a way to change the volume of individual speakers. I have then extended this myself so that now, panning works 100 % the same as in DirectSound. In other words, not only will there be no change necessary to existing code but there will also not be any difference whatsoever in the positioning of sounds in stereo. This is not a pan simulation in 3d, this is exactly the same behavior as DirectSound exposes. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT well switch if you can. It does mean panning will have to have 3d encoding but tom did manage it in mota once and it was not to bad. of cause that probably means that every bgt game created will probably not work anymore. I guess you could keep legacy stuff around is it possible to have both loads and then people can use either function set? Eventually like anything direct sound will probably dissapear but for now there are a lot of people that still play with it and use it. Though I am no programmer and don't know how game code would have to change. if it just means the files change but the code is the same with more options and such then thats fine with me. At 09:03 p.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Philip, I would like you to change to XAudio2, but would it be possible to have links to those Direct X 9 and Windows 7 updates that you suggested? I have Vista and have updated to the latest service pack. thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3479 - Release Date: 03/03/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Phil, The best way to make sure you're up to date is to run the Direct X Web Installer from Microsoft, but I can certainly provide this on my website as well for people to download. I will also include it if I ever make a Blastbay Games CD. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi Philip, I would like you to change to XAudio2, but would it be possible to have links to those Direct X 9 and Windows 7 updates that you suggested? I have Vista and have updated to the latest service pack. thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3479 - Release Date: 03/03/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires
Oh now I always call a spade a spade unless it's a fork Smile - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires True. It might be like death warmed over. Sheesh. What a grave subject. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list and otherentires Hi Charles, Now, that's something I've never liked on my pizza. I Detest anchovies. However, I definitely like sossage, peparoni, olives if you have them, and love hot peppers. I'd imagine a few dominoes on my pizza would be, well, a bit crunchy don't you think? Of course, that is better than having a tombstone on my pizza. Lol! On 3/3/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'd rather have Pepperoni, Italian sausage, extra cheese, and anchovies if I'm in the mood for a pizza. I don't think a pizza with dominos on it would be all that good. (grin) --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] OT: BrailleSoft and Apple Products
hey that's great On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Louis Bryant wrote: Hi. For users who use the App Store and/or iTunes to buy their Apple software, especially for iOS devices, you are required to pay the price if there is one for the product you want to buy. If you have donated $5.00 or more, purchase the BrailleSoft app and your money will be refunded back to you. HTH. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilots everywher
To answer those questions, you'll have to subscribe and ask the questions. If you do't like the list, then unsubscribe. Sorry I'm not much help. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilots everywher will this include podcasts about things? Blindpilots has been dead for ages, though they receantly rereleased all their stuff including some pre project material. At 02:45 a.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: If you're a blind computer user and enjoy the art of flying via your computer. Check out the new e-mail mailing list that the info is down below. This group is for blind persons or those who want to develop accessible add- ons for Microsoft Flight Simulator X. If you are using Fs9, you are also welcome. This group is intended for people to share their experiences, thoughts and ideas about flight simming. Visit this group on the web by using this URL: http://groups.google.com/group/blind-flight-simmers?hl=en You can unsubscribe from this group using the following URL: http://groups.google.com/group/blind-flight-simmers/unsub?u=74AALwwAAADVhdinwolGaTv_23ov1jf2hl=en Information About This Message If you feel that this message is abuse, please inform the Google Groups staff by using the URL below. http://groups.google.com/groups/abuse?direct=YQAAALtQIYDjhFhs9ngsrlff_3xEnB9EmHnVPBB6GDf-FBEhl=en Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] time adventures
oh the version I have of time adventures is put for off the cd. at least my version is. It is possible that I did a few things out of order. I'll try to prepair the stove and the pot then ask, but if I can not get access to my shopping then I have a problem. At 01:07 a.m. 3/03/2011, you wrote: shame this wasn't made to play off the cd especially private detective school but never mind On 2 Mar 2011, at 11:51, shaun everiss wrote: yeah thats all done. I have the baskets the fire is lit and the pot is on the fire. At 12:06 a.m. 3/03/2011, you wrote: s p o i l e r s p a c e ask Philomena for help, if she won't offer her something. don't forget to open the trap door in the roof as you will be smoked out. and of course you need to lite your fire you may want to ask the brothers to help ya there, if they refuse, again offer them something. Simon msn: simod...@hotmail.com skype, slifinger fortis et egregious - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:23 AM Subject: [Audyssey] time adventures hi. You may have seen my posts on the ag forum about this and other codefactory games. Due to issues with the protection system mangling things for one of these and my dislike of another I have decided to leave them alone. However in time adventures I have just just come back from the market. The game thinks the baskets are to take therefore there must be a use. But either I am missing a command or I am being a stupid idiot or something, what exactly do I do now, how do I access my food in the baskets to cook with. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5918 (20110301) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5918 (20110301) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] time adventures
Hi all well I finally completed time adventures1. Its a pitty codefactory stopped making games as I think there are more than one story to tell in this series. I finally figured out the issues I was having. The game takes some time depending on where you are to refresh bits and bobs. Eventually I got it working. This is good because after private detective school and the fact I did not like km1000 there was alien invasion and this one left. And I am happy I can at least keep 2 of my downloads, since they were large. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
well switch if you can. It does mean panning will have to have 3d encoding but tom did manage it in mota once and it was not to bad. of cause that probably means that every bgt game created will probably not work anymore. I guess you could keep legacy stuff around is it possible to have both loads and then people can use either function set? Eventually like anything direct sound will probably dissapear but for now there are a lot of people that still play with it and use it. Though I am no programmer and don't know how game code would have to change. if it just means the files change but the code is the same with more options and such then thats fine with me. At 09:03 p.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
then if its just libraries I don't have any issue with it. the directx 9 latest is june 2010 anyway and a lot of games need that anyway. Change it then. At 10:16 p.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Shaun, BGT games will not need to be changed at all, but end users will need the June 2010 version of Direct X in order to play them. XAudio2 does not support panning natively, however the programmers I hired to write the port of Streemway from DirectSound to XAudio2 have found a way to change the volume of individual speakers. I have then extended this myself so that now, panning works 100 % the same as in DirectSound. In other words, not only will there be no change necessary to existing code but there will also not be any difference whatsoever in the positioning of sounds in stereo. This is not a pan simulation in 3d, this is exactly the same behavior as DirectSound exposes. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT well switch if you can. It does mean panning will have to have 3d encoding but tom did manage it in mota once and it was not to bad. of cause that probably means that every bgt game created will probably not work anymore. I guess you could keep legacy stuff around is it possible to have both loads and then people can use either function set? Eventually like anything direct sound will probably dissapear but for now there are a lot of people that still play with it and use it. Though I am no programmer and don't know how game code would have to change. if it just means the files change but the code is the same with more options and such then thats fine with me. At 09:03 p.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quick MOTA Announcement
Yes I agree Shame no mac version of it but never mind wink On 3 Mar 2011, at 11:15, dark wrote: hi Tom. That's not good, i hope your wife gets better soon. Personally I am looking forward to level 2 too much to miss out on getting it for want of a litle patience, in fact I'd be a bit disappointed if level 2 wasn't in the next beta sinse Mota has got rather fun of late. My vote therefore goes for getting it done when you can, rather than releasing it on schedule half done. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Quick MOTA Announcement Hi everyone, I know I told a lot of you that Mysteries of the Ancients beta 18 would be done about the end of February. A lot of you have started asking questions off list what is going on, why isn't the beta ready, etc and I thought I'd make a quick public announcement explaining where we stand on things. As so often happens with creating accessible games as a side venture in our free time real life problems and issues simply get in the way. This case is no different. Around a week ago my wife got really sick. We took her to the hospital where they gave her some antibiotics, and strict orders to stay in bed for seven to ten days until she felt well enough to get out of bed. As a result I've had to take over all of the house hold duties such as cooking, cleaning, and doing simple tasks like fetching my wife a glass of water when she needs to take a pill etc. The end result of all of this is absolutely no time to work on MOTA at all. So our beta 18 release schedule is pretty much shot to pieces. So here is the thing. I could go ahead and release beta 18 now, as is, but it isn't complete so to speak. Most of the upgrades are done, level 1 has been updated, but we don't yet have level 2 added to the demo. So it is really your choice if you want to wait a few days for me to add level 2 to the game, when I have the time to do so, or if you would rather just have the beta now without level 2. Any thoughts? Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive http://www.usagamesinteractive.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
No, please update. Dragging old technology along if the newer technology works better is counter productive. Soundcards and audio setups have changed a lot since 1995. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:03 AM Subject: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilots everywher
The project went down because we'd figured out how to use the product, we'd created the demonstration podcast, and we gave our contact info for users to get in touch with us. I still have a copy of my demo podcast, should anyone want it, just send me an email and I'll sendspace it to you. Should anyone have any other questions, again, send me an email. On 3/4/11, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: To answer those questions, you'll have to subscribe and ask the questions. If you do't like the list, then unsubscribe. Sorry I'm not much help. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:26 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilots everywher will this include podcasts about things? Blindpilots has been dead for ages, though they receantly rereleased all their stuff including some pre project material. At 02:45 a.m. 4/03/2011, you wrote: If you're a blind computer user and enjoy the art of flying via your computer. Check out the new e-mail mailing list that the info is down below. This group is for blind persons or those who want to develop accessible add- ons for Microsoft Flight Simulator X. If you are using Fs9, you are also welcome. This group is intended for people to share their experiences, thoughts and ideas about flight simming. Visit this group on the web by using this URL: http://groups.google.com/group/blind-flight-simmers?hl=en You can unsubscribe from this group using the following URL: http://groups.google.com/group/blind-flight-simmers/unsub?u=74AALwwAAADVhdinwolGaTv_23ov1jf2hl=en Information About This Message If you feel that this message is abuse, please inform the Google Groups staff by using the URL below. http://groups.google.com/groups/abuse?direct=YQAAALtQIYDjhFhs9ngsrlff_3xEnB9EmHnVPBB6GDf-FBEhl=en Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Could a check be built in to automatically check for the needed components, then prompt for download? I'm certainly OK with switching to the new. On 3/4/2011 3:03 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Casey Mathews www.webfriendlyhelp.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires
We should order one from Pizza Emergency. I mean, a nice big one! They make a 28-inch pizza. At Joe Dimagio's in San Francisco, back in the 1980's, they had a lunch special that you got free of charge if you could eat it all. It was a single topping pizza, and it did have a lot on it, but it was a 36-inch monstrosity. I wasn't about to try it. I really did enjoy talking baseball with the owner, though. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires Hi, The What? What's a hanimbal lecter style slerp of evil? Lol! I will say though that pizza sounds like something I'd love to try. Long time ago Pizza Hut use to sell a bbq pizza that was delicious. Sadly it was here and gone, and they have tried other things such as taco pizzas etc but nothing ever tasted as good as their bbq pizza from the 1980's. Oh, and 18 inches isn't a truck tire. however, a pizza as big as a truck tire does sound good though. Let's order one and split it. Let's get one as large as a semi-truck tire. What do yousay? Cheers! On 3/3/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: An 18 inch pizza? that's not a pizza, that's a truck tire! Actually dominoes do do 12 inch, as do my very nice local shop (and they, unlike dominoes only charge an extra quid for 12 inch), but I only tend to order those if I'm really uba! hungry. Myself, I tend to like a good mix of meet, peppers and spicey sauce. In fact I've got this special diy arrangement with my local pizza place, bbq source on the base, green peppers, meetballs, ham, and spicy beef! Right now I'm just going outside to check if anyone is walking past who I could invite in for a pizza, invite them with my big carving knife! Hmmm, I wonder what text speak is for the hanimbal lecter style slerp of evil? shlshlshlsshl? Sadly Orphius just doesn't do it justice! Sorry for the weerdness, blame it on the late hour and a litle too much speciality firey coke! ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires
Good grief 36 inch? I hope it was thin crust, a 36 inch deep pan would make you explode! with all this talk of pizza, methinks I'll order the barbeque one I mentioned. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires We should order one from Pizza Emergency. I mean, a nice big one! They make a 28-inch pizza. At Joe Dimagio's in San Francisco, back in the 1980's, they had a lunch special that you got free of charge if you could eat it all. It was a single topping pizza, and it did have a lot on it, but it was a 36-inch monstrosity. I wasn't about to try it. I really did enjoy talking baseball with the owner, though. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires Hi, The What? What's a hanimbal lecter style slerp of evil? Lol! I will say though that pizza sounds like something I'd love to try. Long time ago Pizza Hut use to sell a bbq pizza that was delicious. Sadly it was here and gone, and they have tried other things such as taco pizzas etc but nothing ever tasted as good as their bbq pizza from the 1980's. Oh, and 18 inches isn't a truck tire. however, a pizza as big as a truck tire does sound good though. Let's order one and split it. Let's get one as large as a semi-truck tire. What do yousay? Cheers! On 3/3/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: An 18 inch pizza? that's not a pizza, that's a truck tire! Actually dominoes do do 12 inch, as do my very nice local shop (and they, unlike dominoes only charge an extra quid for 12 inch), but I only tend to order those if I'm really uba! hungry. Myself, I tend to like a good mix of meet, peppers and spicey sauce. In fact I've got this special diy arrangement with my local pizza place, bbq source on the base, green peppers, meetballs, ham, and spicy beef! Right now I'm just going outside to check if anyone is walking past who I could invite in for a pizza, invite them with my big carving knife! Hmmm, I wonder what text speak is for the hanimbal lecter style slerp of evil? shlshlshlsshl? Sadly Orphius just doesn't do it justice! Sorry for the weerdness, blame it on the late hour and a litle too much speciality firey coke! ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] OT: BrailleSoft and Apple Products
You might want to reword that, because it looks like your refunding money for all if your product is purchased. At 12:40 AM 3/4/2011, you wrote: Hi. For users who use the App Store and/or iTunes to buy their Apple software, especially for iOS devices, you are required to pay the price if there is one for the product you want to buy. If you have donated $5.00 or more, purchase the BrailleSoft app and your money will be refunded back to you. HTH. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 02:22:05AM -0600, Tommy wrote: To me is ok to switch to XAudio2. I dont know about you guys. [My Reply:] Well, as long as I don't have to migrate past Windows XP Service Pack 2, and upgrade to the buggy Service Pack 3. In any case, don't let me stop you. I don't plan on giving Microsoft any more of my money in any case. If the XP laptop stops being internet compliant, I'll just install Linux on it. Give me a good reason to remove the GUI from the desktop, since I only use it to listen to youtube videos anyway. Michael -- Linux User: 177869 # Powered By: Intel # http://rivensight.dyndns.org Postings Copyrighted 2010-2011 by: Michael Ferranti --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Please Vote on the BrailleSoft Poll
Well as far as that goes. Just look at what is being offered now, because that is what needs supported. In windows would go xp and above, because the rest are not supported or even easy to find. There are always linix users, but not widely in blind community and most ssh or tellnet into it. that is a always changing field and may gain more. With Apple stuff, you better go for what is going on now. Because seen it before from one version to next don't mean the same software works. For example screen flow. It worked good in leopard but not snow leopard. Now what works on snow leopard may not work on tiger. To keep inventing. You have to stay as current with software as much as possible, or you get left behind! At 07:25 PM 3/3/2011, you wrote: To better help BrailleSoft manage time and resources, I need everyone who can to please vote on the BrailleSoft poll! The poll basically asks you to check the equipment you are using. Whatever devices are high on this list, at least 100 people or more, will be supported for a good while. The highest device however will always be supported first, and whatever device comes next. Any questions plase ask off-list at lo...@braillesoft.net. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:54:48PM +, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. [My Reply:] Hi Lori, Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known the rules, but he backstabbed you too. Michael -- Linux User: 177869 # Powered By: Intel # http://rivensight.dyndns.org Postings Copyrighted 2010-2011 by: Michael Ferranti --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] fantasy baseball
Hello, Does anyone know of any accessible fantasy baseball games? I know of ones like ESPN and Yahoo, but I'm not sure which is the most accessible, usable, etc. Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Why not make the switch? People should upgrade anyway, make a habit of it. Maybe you could even incorporate XAudio2 within your installation so the process is easier to upgrade. Just my 2 cents. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Louis, I don't feel that people should be forced into upgrading. I believe there should be a check to see which library will successfully open the audio device. Start with XAudio2. If that fails, switch to DirectSound. That way, there is no necessity to upgrade, but those who have upgraded will still receive the benefits of the new system. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Louis Bryant lo...@braillesoft.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Why not make the switch? People should upgrade anyway, make a habit of it. Maybe you could even incorporate XAudio2 within your installation so the process is easier to upgrade. Just my 2 cents. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
They are different games. Duh? Different tables. Different sounds. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: blindle...@aol.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Entombed Question
I think all you can do is wait for people to actually buy the stuff. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Tommy to...@sirinet.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed Question Hi everyones! I have a question about the Entombed game. I'm trying to sale some of my stuff to buy the playCard. I go to sale and then they put it in the manage sale. When I get in there it's said, Would I like to remove it? How can I sale my stuff to buy the unlock playcard? I did it once but I forgot how now. Tommy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Accept for xtreme wild west in the pinball party pack which is a remake of the wild west table in classic. I actually wish they'd get around to releasing more pinball party packs, I find pinball is another thing which is actually more fun in audio than visually for some reason. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic They are different games. Duh? Different tables. Different sounds. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: blindle...@aol.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Pin ball Extreme has different tables, it has homerun, pinball extreme which is the circus game and others. Original message: what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lelia Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts
Hi. Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours now, and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by having the packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others are much more fun. They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables. Socker star was easy once I worked out a way of getting instant goals by only knocking out one defender, and got that instance reflex to hit the spacebar everytime I here the ball come near my goal. Safari was proving a problem until I sped up my key hammering speed for escaping the water and the kooga, once I got that worked out it was fine. Haunted house is my favourite, the sfx are just awsome (EVENTHE INTRO is cool), and probably is the hardest one I've cracked thus far, sinse some of those shots, particularly for the letter g took a bit of working out. Heist I'm stil trying thus far. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Hi Michael, Michael wrote: Well, if Thomas had posted my previous reply, you would've known the rules, but he backstabbed you too. My reply: Michael, I don't know what your problem with me is, but you are way off base here. You are not on moderated status so Raul and I have absolutely nothing to do with posting/not posting your messages. If a message did not get through it isn't our fault. Contrary to what you believe we are not a couple of power hungry dictators reading each and every single post people send to the list looking for people to moderate. We only step in and do so if and when a post comes to our attention that is in violation of the list rules/guidelines. Since you are not on moderated status, and you rudely insinuated that I was withholding your post on purpose, I demand an apology from you. What you said was very low and was very belittling for absolutely no reason at all. Good day. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts
Hi Dark, Well, as far as the demo of Pinball Clasic goes the blame doesn't fall on Draconis really. The demo has always used the Packman and Wild West tables ever since it was first released by ESP which was long before Josh came along and took it over. I agree with you, however, that some of the other tables like Haunted House would have made abetter demo table than the current demo tables. Cheers! On 3/4/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours now, and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by having the packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others are much more fun. They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables. Socker star was easy once I worked out a way of getting instant goals by only knocking out one defender, and got that instance reflex to hit the spacebar everytime I here the ball come near my goal. Safari was proving a problem until I sped up my key hammering speed for escaping the water and the kooga, once I got that worked out it was fine. Haunted house is my favourite, the sfx are just awsome (EVENTHE INTRO is cool), and probably is the hardest one I've cracked thus far, sinse some of those shots, particularly for the letter g took a bit of working out. Heist I'm stil trying thus far. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
Xtreme is an advanced version of classic. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: blindle...@aol.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question to damien
Hi Damien, Could you update your ts pack please? sevgiler saygılar --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts
Hi Dark, glad I'm not the only who felt like that about packman and the other game in the demo. Original message: Hi. Well I bought the game and have been playing it for a couple of hours now, and I actually think draconis didn't do themselves any favours by having the packman and wildwest tables in the demo, sinse the others are much more fun. They seem generally easier than most of the xtreme tables. Socker star was easy once I worked out a way of getting instant goals by only knocking out one defender, and got that instance reflex to hit the spacebar everytime I here the ball come near my goal. Safari was proving a problem until I sped up my key hammering speed for escaping the water and the kooga, once I got that worked out it was fine. Haunted house is my favourite, the sfx are just awsome (EVENTHE INTRO is cool), and probably is the hardest one I've cracked thus far, sinse some of those shots, particularly for the letter g took a bit of working out. Heist I'm stil trying thus far. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lelia Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Damien, I'm sure you know this is coming, but I absolutely disagree with this. For one thing it is not practical to include XAudio2 and DirectSound in the same executable and it is going to become much harder to support long term since Microsoft has officially dropped support for DirectSound 8 and earlier. That means support will only remain as long as the legacy libraries are compatible with the OS. As it is we are already experiencing problems with DirectSound 8 and Windows 7, and nobody knows if it will be remotely compatible with the next version of Windows or not. Given that fact alone it is always a good idea to adopt the new standards early on so that BGT and all the games written for it are not only XP compatible but are forward compatible with Windows 7 and beyond. It is frankly downright foolish to stick with an old API and unsupported legacy libraries when there is an easy Windows XP web installer for the newer DirectX components. I'm frankly sick and tired of this if it ain't broke don't fix it attitude I see on this list. Second, there are a number of key benifits to upgrading to XAudio2 rather than sticking with DirectSound besides forward compatibility. Improved 3d audio, better custom DSP effects, better memory management, better support for newer sound cards, etc top the list of improvements and features. Answer me why on earth would you want to forego these benifits and features just to stick with an out dated technology like DirectSound In my opinion there is absolutely nothing, no reason what so ever, that could convince me that DirectSound is better. If you disagree with me that's fine, but absolutely do not, I mean do not, hold us back from XAudio2 because Windows 7 users such as myself absolutely need it. DirectSound does not work well on Windows 7 at all and it is high time that developers get off their collective butts and start providing up to date technical support for the OS or I'm personally not going to buy a single product from them again. Not now not ever. On 3/4/11, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Louis, I don't feel that people should be forced into upgrading. I believe there should be a check to see which library will successfully open the audio device. Start with XAudio2. If that fails, switch to DirectSound. That way, there is no necessity to upgrade, but those who have upgraded will still receive the benefits of the new system. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Michael, Michael wrote: Well, as long as I don't have to migrate past Windows XP Service Pack 2, and upgrade to the buggy Service Pack 3. My reply: What do you mean service pack 3 is buggy? My wife and I have been running XP sp3 on an old desktop ever since it came out and haven't had any problems with it. It was far more stable than Windows Vista. So I haven't a clue what you are talking about. In any case I'm pretty sure the DirectX components we are talking about are sp2 compatible. However, you might have to check. It is possible they have updated to using sp3 libraries by now. That would generally be because they are supposed to be more stable than sp2 libraries. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts
Well that makes sense Tom, accept I do regret a litle not buying the game originally. When I first tried esp pinball classic back in 2006 when I bought xtreme, my opinion was that the tables were far simpler than the xtreme ones so I didn't bother with the game, my mistake as it turns out. That's obviously why the second game has the pinball extreme and I believe alien invasion tables, which have a lot going on in them, in fact if I remember rightly I bought the game the same night I tried it just on the strength of those two tables (particularly pinball xtremem). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Casey, Yes, that is possible to do, but not exactly cheap. It is up to the setup application to check for installed components and install them. I haven't had any luck with Inno Setup in testing for these components, but I do know Advanced Setup Installer will test for various requirements such as DirectX, .NET Framework, and lots of stuff. Problem is that Advanced Setup Installer is extremely, extremely, extremely expensive. So while it is possible in order to pay for the right tools for the job you can expect the game developers to pay an extra $300 to $400 to get the right setup tools. Either that or they have to learn Microsofts MSI language and write custom MSI scripts. Not the easiest job for a newby. Cheers! On 3/4/11, Casey Mathews csm...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Could a check be built in to automatically check for the needed components, then prompt for download? I'm certainly OK with switching to the new. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic
i got the xtreme version and i liked it ,i appreciate your help. lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 5:36:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, burakyuksek...@gmail.com writes: Xtreme is an advanced version of classic. sevgiler saygilar - Original Message - From: blindle...@aol.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic what is the difference between pinball clasic and pinball xtreme? lee In a message dated 3/4/2011 9:12:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, duff...@gmail.com writes: Best way to learn is to download the demo and have a go And read the docs as well to get a good understanding. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] ESP Pinball Classic Hi I used to have a game of pinball when I was really small, just a horrid plastic one, but I didn't understand the rules. What I'm wondering is are there any recordings or trails for the ESP Pinball out there, so I can listen and get a feel for it, rather than stumble my way through a demo version. Isn't the point of pinball that you move the ball and it lands on certain numbers? If so, then where does a haunted house or nightmare table come into it? Sorry for being very dim on this one, but it would help if someone could explain it a bit for me. Thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5925 (20110304) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] michael
i for one consider michael fair a great friend and i appreciate your friendship. lee --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Shaun, Not true. Yes, it is true that XAudio2 doesn't have a native pan control but the way the API is designed it is rather simple to create a custom pan control for XAudio2 that works exactly like DirectSound. Philip and I have been discussing this off list, and he has already made such a pan control for Streemway so nothing would essentially change for BGT developers. The only change is they would get a better API for game development, and they shouldn't have to do major modification of their game code either. As for MOTA and 3d you might want to remember that that was using OpenAL via the SFML-Audio wrapper. SFML-Audio didn't offer a pan control, and OpenAL works completely different from XAudio2. To be canded comparing OpenAL and XAudio2 is comparing apples and oranges. They are two different kinds of fruit, but that's where similarity ends and differences begin. All I'm saying as stop thinking of XAudio2 in the same terms of OpenAL as they work differently and shouldn't be compared in this context. On 3/4/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well switch if you can. It does mean panning will have to have 3d encoding but tom did manage it in mota once and it was not to bad. of cause that probably means that every bgt game created will probably not work anymore. I guess you could keep legacy stuff around is it possible to have both loads and then people can use either function set? Eventually like anything direct sound will probably dissapear but for now there are a lot of people that still play with it and use it. Though I am no programmer and don't know how game code would have to change. if it just means the files change but the code is the same with more options and such then thats fine with me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Philip, Yes, by all means please do. As one of those who has already switched all but one of my Windows computers to Windows 7 it is a bit unfair to be held back from buying new games using XAudio2 that will directly support Windows 7 better just to pander to those Windows users still running XP who either refuse or don't have the money to upgrade to Windows 7 yet. Especially, seeing as upgrading to DirectX June 2010 is a free upgrade for them and wouldn't cost them anything more than a little time and energy. Plus as BGT is a commercial venture I think you should think highly of the future compatibility of the engine rather than thinking of what people have right now. Odds are probably pretty good in the next five years most of the XP systems running right now will be so far out of date people will buy new computers with Windows 7 preinstalled and it is a good idea to plan ahead for that eventuality rather than waiting until the change comes and have to play catch up. On 3/4/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I have been making some drastic changes to the BGT core. As many of you will know, most audio games today use a technology known as DirectSound to output audio. BGT is no exception. Until about 3 years ago DirectSound was the interface of choice for all Windows based games. It has been around since 1995, and has become rather stable over the years. However, Microsoft are now pushing developers away from DirectSound as it is being replaced by a new audio engine called XAudio2. XAudio2 provides much greater flexibility when it comes to low latency audio processing, and is an over-all better system than DirectSound. However, in order for XAudio2 to work reliably I have found that the end users need to run at least the June 2010 release of Direct X 9. It is also necessary for users of Windows 7 service pack 1 to upgrade in a few cases. So my question to you all is this. In the next BGT release, would you like me to switch to XAudio2? This will give much better performance on Windows Vista and 7 as compared to DirectSound, but should be about the same on Xp. However, the games simply will not run if the user has anything earlier than Direct X June 2010 installed and it will force them to upgrade. Do I maintain two versions of the engine for a while, a DirectSound and an XAudio2 build, or are we okay to switch immediately? This is what I would like to ask you all before I make a final decision. Thanks for reading. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hey Thomas, I'm sorry it really bothers you that much. For a start, it was only a suggestion to try and be forward, as well as backward compatible and I felt you were biting my head off so to speak. The tone of your message there I feel was rather harsh and judgmental, even disdainful, towards people running earlier systems. I myself have no problems making reasonable upgrades to my system if and when the time comes, I was merely thinking of the community as a whole. For a second, I was not holding anybody back from XAudio2. If you want XAudio2, fine. If not, I don't think people should be penalised for it and have to suffer a lack of games and the developer a lack of money because only three out of the seven or so Windows operating systems are supported. To give you an idea, I have a friend based over here who has written software, and even a miniature game, that can be run on all flavours of windows, right from Windows 95, which he runs by the way, all the way up to Vista, if not higher. If his game were marketable, there is a possibility he may get more custom than people who are prepared to only support the latest and greatest, since there are also people, quite a few of whom I am on friendly terms with, who run systems earlier than XP, either for personal preference, or financial problems in upgrades. I think there should be more tolerance towards people who prefer earlier versions of an operating system. I myself would choose XP over any of the later systems, because that is the system that I have written, composed music, edited audio, played games and programmed software with for the past ten years, although I have been through the 95 and 98 phases as well. Even if I wanted to I couldn't upgrade to a later version of Windows, since it would mean forking out a whole lot more money just for a new licence for a completely new copy of Windows. With my living arrangements this just isn't affordable. So am I uncool or unworthy just because I run on an older system? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi Damien, I'm sure you know this is coming, but I absolutely disagree with this. For one thing it is not practical to include XAudio2 and DirectSound in the same executable and it is going to become much harder to support long term since Microsoft has officially dropped support for DirectSound 8 and earlier. That means support will only remain as long as the legacy libraries are compatible with the OS. As it is we are already experiencing problems with DirectSound 8 and Windows 7, and nobody knows if it will be remotely compatible with the next version of Windows or not. Given that fact alone it is always a good idea to adopt the new standards early on so that BGT and all the games written for it are not only XP compatible but are forward compatible with Windows 7 and beyond. It is frankly downright foolish to stick with an old API and unsupported legacy libraries when there is an easy Windows XP web installer for the newer DirectX components. I'm frankly sick and tired of this if it ain't broke don't fix it attitude I see on this list. Second, there are a number of key benifits to upgrading to XAudio2 rather than sticking with DirectSound besides forward compatibility. Improved 3d audio, better custom DSP effects, better memory management, better support for newer sound cards, etc top the list of improvements and features. Answer me why on earth would you want to forego these benifits and features just to stick with an out dated technology like DirectSound In my opinion there is absolutely nothing, no reason what so ever, that could convince me that DirectSound is better. If you disagree with me that's fine, but absolutely do not, I mean do not, hold us back from XAudio2 because Windows 7 users such as myself absolutely need it. DirectSound does not work well on Windows 7 at all and it is high time that developers get off their collective butts and start providing up to date technical support for the OS or I'm personally not going to buy a single product from them again. Not now not ever. On 3/4/11, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Louis, I don't feel that people should be forced into upgrading. I believe there should be a check to see which library will successfully open the audio device. Start with XAudio2. If that fails, switch to DirectSound. That way, there is no necessity to upgrade, but those who have upgraded will still receive the benefits of the new system. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Thomas, Even if Inno Setup can't internally check for such components, I am sure it would be possible to check with the Pascal scripting, just by checking for certain files or registry values, or even better, run the DXSetup tool directly from the installer using a silent installation, and let that do all the work. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT Hi Casey, Yes, that is possible to do, but not exactly cheap. It is up to the setup application to check for installed components and install them. I haven't had any luck with Inno Setup in testing for these components, but I do know Advanced Setup Installer will test for various requirements such as DirectX, .NET Framework, and lots of stuff. Problem is that Advanced Setup Installer is extremely, extremely, extremely expensive. So while it is possible in order to pay for the right tools for the job you can expect the game developers to pay an extra $300 to $400 to get the right setup tools. Either that or they have to learn Microsofts MSI language and write custom MSI scripts. Not the easiest job for a newby. Cheers! On 3/4/11, Casey Mathews csm...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Could a check be built in to automatically check for the needed components, then prompt for download? I'm certainly OK with switching to the new. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Please Vote on the BrailleSoft Poll
Hi Trouble, Just a little note. Well, it is hard to say how many blind users use Linux, because not a lot of them are on this list. However, there seams to be quite a lot over on the Orca mailing list, Speakup mailing list, Gnome Accessibility List, etc. As a result I have estimated about 100 blind Linux users online world wide just by reading posts etc. There may be more possibly less, but it is still a fairly decent market if a game developer actively courts that market. The trouble is that game developers often hang out here rather than the Linux specific lists and there hasn't been any concerted effort to go to the source and ask about how many VI Linux users there are interested in playing games. So the trouble with The Braille Soft polll is I know it has been posted here, but has it been posted to the Linux mailing lists too? If not then I doubt Louis will hear back from a number of Linux users since they don't tend to congrigate on this list. Besides myself I know Zack, Michael, and a couple of others regularly use Linux but not many on this list do. However, four or five of us aren't representative of the entire blind Linux community. Cheers! On 3/4/11, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Well as far as that goes. Just look at what is being offered now, because that is what needs supported. In windows would go xp and above, because the rest are not supported or even easy to find. There are always linix users, but not widely in blind community and most ssh or tellnet into it. that is a always changing field and may gain more. With Apple stuff, you better go for what is going on now. Because seen it before from one version to next don't mean the same software works. For example screen flow. It worked good in leopard but not snow leopard. Now what works on snow leopard may not work on tiger. To keep inventing. You have to stay as current with software as much as possible, or you get left behind! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
Hi Damien, My apologies. I didn't mean to bite your head off. I shouldn't have come down on you so harshly. However, allow me to explain my position a little clearer withouttthe flaming. First, my issue isn't with the fact people are running older operating systems like XP. I know full well a lot of us have fixed incomes, a limited budget, and the Microsoft technologies cost a lot to upgrade and maintain regularly. So my agrivation isn't so much that people are running older software, but all too often many of them have an attitude of if it ain't broke don't fix it. That really agrivates me, because I know full well that isn't true when multiple versions of Windows are involved. For instance, XAudio2 is available for XP, Vista, and Windows 7 and is a totally free upgrade. There is no reason why someone can't upgrade to XAudio2 if they are running XP because it is free and by doing so a developer can better support XP, Vista, and Windows 7 at the same time using the exact same APIs and libraries. Instead of doing the right thing like switching to XAudio2 for all Windows platforms we get these compromises like lets support XP with DirectSound and support Vista with XAudio2, or let the end user decide wich he/she wants to use etc. That is a nightmare for a developer to be honest, and perhaps we should be greatful Philip allowed us to discuss this openly with him. A mainstream developer would just pick the best option for the project, and that would be the end of the debate right there. Second, as far as thinking of the community as a hole that is what I'm doing as well. Sure I have a vested interested in this choice because I am effected by this decision more than XP users. However, you have to understand exactly where I am coming from. When I began taking college courses one of the things they traind us to do as programmers is to think and plan ahead for the future. To plan ahead in advance so that our software can be supported and upgraded for the long term rather than just looking at what is available for today. By doing so you will adopt certain APIs, tools, and practices that will help you achieve that goal for the long term rather than the short term. Otherwise from a technical point of view you are setting yourself up for a huge amount of work rewriting and fixing your mistakes later on. For example, let's say a person starts programming a game today in Visual Basic 6, using DirectX 8, and makes the build for a Windows XP 32-bit system. He figures reasonably enough that most of the computers have this type of setup, and will just blow off the fact that 64-bit platforms have replaced 32-bit platforms, and that Visual Basic 6 and DirectX 8 are not really handled that well on Windows 7. Two years from now Microsoft releases Windows X, it is 64-bit only, running on a 64-bit platform, and VB 6 and DirectX 8 are no longer compatible with the operating system. What is the developer to do? Well, the answer is quite clear. He has to take his source code and upgrade it to VB .NET or similar language which will require a massive rewrite. That will cost him both time and energy rewriting what he has already written. All of this could have been avoided just by doing that in the first place. It isn't like he didn't know when he started that these changes were coming, but he chose to ignore them for whatever reason. My point is since BGT is a game development tool we are going to run into this exact same issue sooner or later. It is better we take care of this upgrade now rather than wait until whenever to take care of it. Do you see where I am coming from? Finally, as far as supporting Windows 95 through Windows 7 I know it can be done, but it is not a good idea by any means. there are some darn good reasons why pro developers don't do it, and those are the exact same reasons why I will never support Windows 95, 98, or ME. It has nothing to do with tollerence, but more to do with the time, cost, and technical aspects of trying to support Windows 9x era software. One, any time you want to try and support legacy software like Windows 95 and Windows 98 that means you end up having to use a lowest common denominator approach. Instead of using Visual C++ 2008 that means going clear back to Visual C++ 6.0 which is less accessible, buggier, and is no longer supported on Windows 7. Instead of using DirectX 9.0C, DirectX 10, or DirectX 11 we have to go back to DirectX 8 which is itself no longer supported. In fact, the SDK isn't even available from Microsoft any more making finding and obtaining the development kits required a serious difficulty. Two, assuming we decide to use this lowest common denominator approach everyone who purchases your product are litterally going to lose out on a lot of features that could have been included by supporting newer APIs and libraries. For example, better 3d graphics using Microsoft Direct3D, support for XInput controllers using XInput, superior 3d audio processing and
Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires
Hi, Yikes! A 36 inch deep pan pizza? That would be a truck tire to be sure. Just thinking about trying to eat something that huge makes me want to puke. Lol! On 3/4/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Good grief 36 inch? I hope it was thin crust, a 36 inch deep pan would make you explode! with all this talk of pizza, methinks I'll order the barbeque one I mentioned. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires
Hi Charles, Ummm..Did anyone ever complete the 36 inch pizza? On 3/4/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: We should order one from Pizza Emergency. I mean, a nice big one! They make a 28-inch pizza. At Joe Dimagio's in San Francisco, back in the 1980's, they had a lunch special that you got free of charge if you could eat it all. It was a single topping pizza, and it did have a lot on it, but it was a 36-inch monstrosity. I wasn't about to try it. I really did enjoy talking baseball with the owner, though. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Beat It Extreme by Mad Games Inc. Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick someone's butt just because you feel like it? You just want to sstrangle your next door neighbor because his dog crapped on your side walk again? Are you angry at the neighborhood kids because they through a baseball through your front picture window? We've got the answer for you. Mad Games Inc. has totally revised the popular game, Bop It, with a revolutionary new anger based theme. This handheld device can stand up to hours of pounding and will seriously take abeating. Try out the various modes. Slightly angry mode gives you prompts to punch it, throw it, kick it, and beat it. Very angry mode adds slam it, smash it, jump on it, and chop it. Extremely angry mode includes an explode it option that wil detonate this device. Makes a great hand grenade to throw at your next door neighbor, or your neighbors' kids when they throw a baseball through your picture window. Warning! Do not hold this device when explode it is activated. May cause serious injury or death.However, slip it in your neighbor's mailbox or your neighbor's trash can and listen to the loud bang. Sincerely, Mad Games Inc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hey now, that's a game for me. When my neighbors are loud upstairs? o yeah look out here I come. Original message: Beat It Extreme by Mad Games Inc. Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick someone's butt just because you feel like it? You just want to sstrangle your next door neighbor because his dog crapped on your side walk again? Are you angry at the neighborhood kids because they through a baseball through your front picture window? We've got the answer for you. Mad Games Inc. has totally revised the popular game, Bop It, with a revolutionary new anger based theme. This handheld device can stand up to hours of pounding and will seriously take abeating. Try out the various modes. Slightly angry mode gives you prompts to punch it, throw it, kick it, and beat it. Very angry mode adds slam it, smash it, jump on it, and chop it. Extremely angry mode includes an explode it option that wil detonate this device. Makes a great hand grenade to throw at your next door neighbor, or your neighbors' kids when they throw a baseball through your picture window. Warning! Do not hold this device when explode it is activated. May cause serious injury or death.However, slip it in your neighbor's mailbox or your neighbor's trash can and listen to the loud bang. Sincerely, Mad Games Inc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lelia Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hey. Lol. That sounds like a fun game. I wonder if it could be an audio game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all blind pilots everywher
I am, for one. Why not send it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Please Vote on the BrailleSoft Poll
Hi Thomas, Thank you very much. I will definitely subscribe to the lists you mentioned and spread the word. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Man I want to order this. Thomas, send me your paypal info man. hahahaha - Original Message - From: Bryan Mckinnish bryan...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Hey. Lol. That sounds like a fun game. I wonder if it could be an audio game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hi, Sure. No problem. It will talk and play music. At least until you break the speakers by jumping up and down on it or throw it against the wall. OOf course, using the explode it option will blow the unit to pieces,, and I'll have to sell you a new one. Still it might be fun sticking that sucker in someone's mailbox, set the timer, and run like crazy and listen to it blow up. Sounds like a few pranksters I knew of who use to do that by putting cherry bombs in peoples mailboxes. Lol ! On 3/4/11, Bryan Mckinnish bryan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey. Lol. That sounds like a fun game. I wonder if it could be an audio game. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hi Lelia, Lol! I can se it now. You doing your own little Joan Jett impersonation with the thing. Hello, dad. Hello mom. I'm a cherry bomb. Hello, world. I'm a wild girl. I'm a cherry bomb. Bang! On 3/4/11, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote: Hey now, that's a game for me. When my neighbors are loud upstairs? o yeah look out here I come. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Beat It Extreme by Mad Games Inc. Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick someone's butt just because you feel like it? You just want to sstrangle your next door neighbor because his dog crapped on your side walk again? Are you angry at the neighborhood kids because they through a baseball through your front picture window? We've got the answer for you. Mad Games Inc. has totally revised the popular game, Bop It, with a revolutionary new anger based theme. This handheld device can stand up to hours of pounding and will seriously take abeating. Try out the various modes. Slightly angry mode gives you prompts to punch it, throw it, kick it, and beat it. Very angry mode adds slam it, smash it, jump on it, and chop it. Extremely angry mode includes an explode it option that wil detonate this device. Makes a great hand grenade to throw at your next door neighbor, or your neighbors' kids when they throw a baseball through your picture window. Warning! Do not hold this device when explode it is activated. May cause serious injury or death.However, slip it in your neighbor's mailbox or your neighbor's trash can and listen to the loud bang. Sincerely, Mad Games Inc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Hi Bryan, Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the stuffing out of someone. Lol! On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Hi Bryan, Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the stuffing out of someone. Lol! On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Please Vote on the BrailleSoft Poll
Hi Louis, Glad I could be of some help there. The Orca mailing list would be the best place to start in my opinion. It is always a good thing to go straight to the source when getting people intrested in a non-Windows product or service, because I know from experience such users tend to sstay clear of lists like Audyssey because there aren't enough Linux games to interest them in subbing to the list. On 3/4/11, Louis Bryant lo...@braillesoft.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Thank you very much. I will definitely subscribe to the lists you mentioned and spread the word. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list and otherentires
What is dominoes? I never heard of that in south African pizza places. Debonairs, hmm, their crush is always too thick but their toppings is nice. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 04 March 2011 04:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list and otherentires Hi Charles, Now, that's something I've never liked on my pizza. I Detest anchovies. However, I definitely like sossage, peparoni, olives if you have them, and love hot peppers. I'd imagine a few dominoes on my pizza would be, well, a bit crunchy don't you think? Of course, that is better than having a tombstone on my pizza. Lol! On 3/3/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'd rather have Pepperoni, Italian sausage, extra cheese, and anchovies if I'm in the mood for a pizza. I don't think a pizza with dominos on it would be all that good. (grin) --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] games we'd like to play: chaganooga choo choo madness
Plot and objective: Have you heard that glen miller song, chaganooga choo choo? Well, its telling of this couple that travels on the chaganooga choo choo train. Only thing is the husband just wants to get onto that train; no matter who is in the way! That's why the song says: Step aside partner, its my day. Rude, isn't it? Well, your character, a little green elve has decided to teach this male traveler some good manners because he always bumps people out of the way telling them Step aside partner, its my day. So you decides to take matters into your own hands and teach him a lesson. If there's one thing that this male traveler is concerned about, is his shirt buttons .So you decided, armed with your long hook, to rip off all his golden shirt buttons the next time he rudely says: step aside partner, its my day. So you storm down upon him with 3d game movement and you try to rip off as many precious buttons with your hook pressing spacebar. You have to back off and come back several times, as he tries to attack you. Then things gets worse, you no longer can manage to rip off his shirt buttons. His attacks gets too fast! Now you get onto the train, disconnect the train whissel, and get back to the rude traveler and by using shift, give loud blows on the train whissel right into his ear, backing off in between and coming back so that the traveler screams in pain and anger and storms away, never again traveling on the chaganooga choo choo! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
Hi Yohandy, Yeah, I definitely agree. Until we actually create some classic beat-m-up games using BGT or Genesis 3D I doubt many VI gamers will ever play them. In fact, now that the Genesis 3D engine is pretty much stable enough for game development I've got a few beat-m-up games in mind. When I was sighted I use to love Bad Dudes, Legend of Kage, and Double Dragon. Any of these classic beat-m-ups could be converted to audio quite easily. All I'd have to do is change the name of the characters , name of the game, and bingo. We've got a classic beat-m-up from the NES/Super NES era for the PC. It wouldn't take more than a month or two in order to create something like that. On 3/4/11, Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list and otherentires
Hi Nicol, Dominoes Pizza is the name of a popular restaurant chain in the U.S. and apparently in the U.K. as well. They sell, well, pizza of course. And just in case anyone didn't get my joke about a tombstone on their pizza that is another brand of pizza. Here in the U.S. there is a brand of frozen pizzas called Tombstone you buy at Wal-Mart, Publics, Giant Eagle, or wherever you like to shop and take it home and put it in the oven for 30 minutes. There company logo is, what do you want on your tombstone? I changed that around and asked what kind of tombstone do you want on your pizza? On 3/4/11, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: What is dominoes? I never heard of that in south African pizza places. Debonairs, hmm, their crush is always too thick but their toppings is nice. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thomas you did it, I'm trying MOTA
Hi Shaun and all, Well, besides the fact a large sword or shotgun could throw off your balance etc there are also other considerations. In the tomb rader games when Lara jumps a chasm or jumps up to grab a ledge she needs to grab the ledge with her hands and pull herself up onto the ledge. If her hands aren't free to grab the ledge she'll drop like a stone into the pit or miss the ledge. The same idea applies here in MOTA except that Angela does this automatically instead of manually. HTH On 3/3/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well weapons need to be holstered before you jump. The engine is quite realistic. as in real life you can't probably jump over a pit if you are holding to much. Torches seem ok but you need a hand free if it makes sence. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW
Hi Phil and all, Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast spells. For example, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to cast the Flipendo spell you have to move the mouse right, down, and then quickly up again. Then, click the left mouse button to cast the spell. For one thing it is visually pretty cool because Harry follows your wand movements on screen, but more than that it makes the games a bit more challenging because you actually have to learn and remember how to do each and every spell in the game. I was wondering if this could be a possible addition to Sarah at some point? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] XAudio2 and BGT
there are third party tools for inosetup existing round about but I have never tried them. At 12:00 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Casey, Yes, that is possible to do, but not exactly cheap. It is up to the setup application to check for installed components and install them. I haven't had any luck with Inno Setup in testing for these components, but I do know Advanced Setup Installer will test for various requirements such as DirectX, .NET Framework, and lots of stuff. Problem is that Advanced Setup Installer is extremely, extremely, extremely expensive. So while it is possible in order to pay for the right tools for the job you can expect the game developers to pay an extra $300 to $400 to get the right setup tools. Either that or they have to learn Microsofts MSI language and write custom MSI scripts. Not the easiest job for a newby. Cheers! On 3/4/11, Casey Mathews csm...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Could a check be built in to automatically check for the needed components, then prompt for download? I'm certainly OK with switching to the new. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
hmm well the only cherry bomb I know is from the sympsons. one in the toilet, boom. At 04:14 p.m. 5/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Lelia, Lol! I can se it now. You doing your own little Joan Jett impersonation with the thing. Hello, dad. Hello mom. I'm a cherry bomb. Hello, world. I'm a wild girl. I'm a cherry bomb. Bang! On 3/4/11, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote: Hey now, that's a game for me. When my neighbors are loud upstairs? o yeah look out here I come. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires
Tombstone pizzas are good frozen pizzas, too. Big round slices of pepperoni and a good spicy sauce. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires Hi Nicol, Dominoes Pizza is the name of a popular restaurant chain in the U.S. and apparently in the U.K. as well. They sell, well, pizza of course. And just in case anyone didn't get my joke about a tombstone on their pizza that is another brand of pizza. Here in the U.S. there is a brand of frozen pizzas called Tombstone you buy at Wal-Mart, Publics, Giant Eagle, or wherever you like to shop and take it home and put it in the oven for 30 minutes. There company logo is, what do you want on your tombstone? I changed that around and asked what kind of tombstone do you want on your pizza? On 3/4/11, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: What is dominoes? I never heard of that in south African pizza places. Debonairs, hmm, their crush is always too thick but their toppings is nice. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
How's this for a name of the game? Thug Thud. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Hi Bryan, Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the stuffing out of someone. Lol! On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires
It would be like one of those tires on a mining truck they use in the Arizona copper mines. I can stand inside one and not reach the inside of the tire at the top of the circle. I'm a few feet short. I'm only 5 feet 11. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza - Re: Phil's price list and other entires Hi, Yikes! A 36 inch deep pan pizza? That would be a truck tire to be sure. Just thinking about trying to eat something that huge makes me want to puke. Lol! On 3/4/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Good grief 36 inch? I hope it was thin crust, a 36 inch deep pan would make you explode! with all this talk of pizza, methinks I'll order the barbeque one I mentioned. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts
Try the Safari table in the set of classic ones and let me know what you think. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] esp pinball classic thoughts Well that makes sense Tom, accept I do regret a litle not buying the game originally. When I first tried esp pinball classic back in 2006 when I bought xtreme, my opinion was that the tables were far simpler than the xtreme ones so I didn't bother with the game, my mistake as it turns out. That's obviously why the second game has the pinball extreme and I believe alien invasion tables, which have a lot going on in them, in fact if I remember rightly I bought the game the same night I tried it just on the strength of those two tables (particularly pinball xtremem). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
I wouldn't mind seeing a true, oldschool fully-fledged beat em up in the final fight style, and I'd make one with BGT myself if I had time to learn everything and design the sounds and whatnot. But if I do get that together, that's definitely a project on the list for me... At 07:38 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote: I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Hi Bryan, Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the stuffing out of someone. Lol! On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
Agreed as well... and if anyone does decide to tackle that project, I could lend a hand with design to make the game more interesting... I've had a lot of ideas I would like to implant into a beat em up, and being a practicioner of a martial art I could be of some use if a certain type of weapon were picked up in terms of designing moves. Namely Japanese swords... since a lot of the beat em ups I played had them somewhere, regardless of whether it was made by a japanese company or not. The katana seemed to be one of the weapons you could rely on to be present in a lot of beat em ups, even in the more modern ones that aren't 3d. lol. At 07:54 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, Yeah, I definitely agree. Until we actually create some classic beat-m-up games using BGT or Genesis 3D I doubt many VI gamers will ever play them. In fact, now that the Genesis 3D engine is pretty much stable enough for game development I've got a few beat-m-up games in mind. When I was sighted I use to love Bad Dudes, Legend of Kage, and Double Dragon. Any of these classic beat-m-ups could be converted to audio quite easily. All I'd have to do is change the name of the characters , name of the game, and bingo. We've got a classic beat-m-up from the NES/Super NES era for the PC. It wouldn't take more than a month or two in order to create something like that. On 3/4/11, Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
Sorry for double-posting... I meant ones that are in 3d. At 07:54 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, Yeah, I definitely agree. Until we actually create some classic beat-m-up games using BGT or Genesis 3D I doubt many VI gamers will ever play them. In fact, now that the Genesis 3D engine is pretty much stable enough for game development I've got a few beat-m-up games in mind. When I was sighted I use to love Bad Dudes, Legend of Kage, and Double Dragon. Any of these classic beat-m-ups could be converted to audio quite easily. All I'd have to do is change the name of the characters , name of the game, and bingo. We've got a classic beat-m-up from the NES/Super NES era for the PC. It wouldn't take more than a month or two in order to create something like that. On 3/4/11, Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
I can do sound design for anyone doing beate em ups... I've created a mod for the now abandonware version of danger city... if anyone, or the whole list, wants it, send me an email off list -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Clement Chou Sent: 05 March 2011 06:10 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme I wouldn't mind seeing a true, oldschool fully-fledged beat em up in the final fight style, and I'd make one with BGT myself if I had time to learn everything and design the sounds and whatnot. But if I do get that together, that's definitely a project on the list for me... At 07:38 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote: I've always thought that someone should make a beat-m-up. only thing we have now are video games, and since most blind people refuse to play those they'll never get to experience them unless they are created as actual audio games. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Hi Bryan, Been there done that so to speak. Well, maybe writing a beat-m-up game is exactly what we need. Just a game where you run around beating the stuffing out of someone. Lol! On 3/4/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
Hi Clement, I'm certainly interested in such a project. I guess the next question is what kind of beat-m-up to right. Most of the ones I enjoyed and still enjoy are from the NES era such as Batman, Double Dragon, Bad Dudes, and so on. Those games didn't have a lot of martial arts weapons. What you are thinking is more like Legend of Kage which had throwing stars and a katana as best as I recall. In Double Dragon it mainly had various kicks and punches. There weren't that many weapons you could use other than dropped baseball bats and things like that. Batman had punches, kicks, his Batarang, and some kind of rocket launcher. Any of these would be easy to create in audio. I'd be interested in your ideas. Cheers! On 3/5/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed as well... and if anyone does decide to tackle that project, I could lend a hand with design to make the game more interesting... I've had a lot of ideas I would like to implant into a beat em up, and being a practicioner of a martial art I could be of some use if a certain type of weapon were picked up in terms of designing moves. Namely Japanese swords... since a lot of the beat em ups I played had them somewhere, regardless of whether it was made by a japanese company or not. The katana seemed to be one of the weapons you could rely on to be present in a lot of beat em ups, even in the more modern ones that aren't 3d. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW
By the way tom. Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its philosopher's stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by that name... but that's just me. Don't take it personally. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 05 March 2011 05:30 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW Hi Phil and all, Tonight I was sitting back playing a game of Sarah when I realised there is a feature I'd really love to se added to the game at some point. I don't know how many of you have ever played some of the Harry Potter PC games, but in many of them you have to use the mouse to cast spells. For example, in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone to cast the Flipendo spell you have to move the mouse right, down, and then quickly up again. Then, click the left mouse button to cast the spell. For one thing it is visually pretty cool because Harry follows your wand movements on screen, but more than that it makes the games a bit more challenging because you actually have to learn and remember how to do each and every spell in the game. I was wondering if this could be a possible addition to Sarah at some point? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
True that. But it doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy with different characters though, does it? Double Dragon reputedly had martial arts in it, and you could, say, change the nationality of the characters if you are going to change the names as well. In that way, if they were to be Japanese or Asian, the game could take place in Asia, and thus feature a more martial arts-related kind of sceen. If you really do want to know what I have to say, we can continue this discussion offlist or on... I'd be happy to do either. I just think that martial arts is a great setting for beat em ups. Especially sidescrolling ones. At 11:12 PM 04/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Clement, I'm certainly interested in such a project. I guess the next question is what kind of beat-m-up to right. Most of the ones I enjoyed and still enjoy are from the NES era such as Batman, Double Dragon, Bad Dudes, and so on. Those games didn't have a lot of martial arts weapons. What you are thinking is more like Legend of Kage which had throwing stars and a katana as best as I recall. In Double Dragon it mainly had various kicks and punches. There weren't that many weapons you could use other than dropped baseball bats and things like that. Batman had punches, kicks, his Batarang, and some kind of rocket launcher. Any of these would be easy to create in audio. I'd be interested in your ideas. Cheers! On 3/5/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed as well... and if anyone does decide to tackle that project, I could lend a hand with design to make the game more interesting... I've had a lot of ideas I would like to implant into a beat em up, and being a practicioner of a martial art I could be of some use if a certain type of weapon were picked up in terms of designing moves. Namely Japanese swords... since a lot of the beat em ups I played had them somewhere, regardless of whether it was made by a japanese company or not. The katana seemed to be one of the weapons you could rely on to be present in a lot of beat em ups, even in the more modern ones that aren't 3d. lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: chaganooga choo choo madness
Fun idea times... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of NIcol Sent: 05 March 2011 03:48 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: chaganooga choo choo madness Plot and objective: Have you heard that glen miller song, chaganooga choo choo? Well, its telling of this couple that travels on the chaganooga choo choo train. Only thing is the husband just wants to get onto that train; no matter who is in the way! That's why the song says: Step aside partner, its my day. Rude, isn't it? Well, your character, a little green elve has decided to teach this male traveler some good manners because he always bumps people out of the way telling them Step aside partner, its my day. So you decides to take matters into your own hands and teach him a lesson. If there's one thing that this male traveler is concerned about, is his shirt buttons .So you decided, armed with your long hook, to rip off all his golden shirt buttons the next time he rudely says: step aside partner, its my day. So you storm down upon him with 3d game movement and you try to rip off as many precious buttons with your hook pressing spacebar. You have to back off and come back several times, as he tries to attack you. Then things gets worse, you no longer can manage to rip off his shirt buttons. His attacks gets too fast! Now you get onto the train, disconnect the train whissel, and get back to the rude traveler and by using shift, give loud blows on the train whissel right into his ear, backing off in between and coming back so that the traveler screams in pain and anger and storms away, never again traveling on the chaganooga choo choo! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
Lol... change the character you're beating up to my mum and you've got a real good game there too -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 05 March 2011 03:23 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme I'd like to kick my mother-in-law's butt just about now. She's been interfering in our marriage, trying to anyway, practically since I put the ring on Maria's finger. So I need hardly point out that this game sounds pretty darn appealing just now. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:51 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme Beat It Extreme by Mad Games Inc. Attention, ladies and gentlemen. Are you in a really bad mood? You know, are you having the kind of day where you want to just kick someone's butt just because you feel like it? You just want to sstrangle your next door neighbor because his dog crapped on your side walk again? Are you angry at the neighborhood kids because they through a baseball through your front picture window? We've got the answer for you. Mad Games Inc. has totally revised the popular game, Bop It, with a revolutionary new anger based theme. This handheld device can stand up to hours of pounding and will seriously take abeating. Try out the various modes. Slightly angry mode gives you prompts to punch it, throw it, kick it, and beat it. Very angry mode adds slam it, smash it, jump on it, and chop it. Extremely angry mode includes an explode it option that wil detonate this device. Makes a great hand grenade to throw at your next door neighbor, or your neighbors' kids when they throw a baseball through your picture window. Warning! Do not hold this device when explode it is activated. May cause serious injury or death.However, slip it in your neighbor's mailbox or your neighbor's trash can and listen to the loud bang. Sincerely, Mad Games Inc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat It Extreme
I! want! This! - put it in what you Americans would call the principles office... lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Suggestion for SCW
Hi Ben, Yes, I know. You can blame the naming issue on Scholastic. For reasons no one will ever understand, including J. K. Rowling herself, Scholastic insisted that the name be changed for the U.S. market even though it was being marketed in the U.K. by Bloomsberry as Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. As you might have guessed the movies, games, toys, etc followed the patern. In the U.S. it was named one thing and in the U.K. another. Its not something we can do anything about, and I've gotten use to calling it by both names. At any rate you might be surprised I have a complete copy of the Harry Potter books published by Bloomsberry instead of Scholastic for that very reason. Scholastic basically took the books, heavily edited them, and made it easier to follow by an American audience by changing the names of things when and where necessary. I didn't really like it, because they changed the story a little too much in my opinion. For example, in Chamber of Secrets when discussing the Ford Anglia the U.K. version uses English names for things like the boot and bonnet of the car. In the American release they use trunk and hood instead. Instead of using toilet they inserted the word bath room. These are relatively miner changes, but I personally like reading it exactly as J. K. Rowling wrote it instead of reading it second hand after some American editor got done changing this and that to fit their idea of how the book should read. So, yeah, I agree if you read the U.K. versionand then the U.S. version it seams quite strange to see how much difference there is over all. Cheers! On 3/5/11, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: By the way tom. Not meaning to be picky... but in the uk, its philosopher's stone - it just, no offence meant, seemed a bit weird you calling it by that name... but that's just me. Don't take it personally. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires
Hi Tom Thanks. I then misunderstood the post I replied to. I thought dominos is one of the things put on a pizza. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 05 March 2011 06:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pizza withdrawals - Re: Phil's price list andotherentires Hi Nicol, Dominoes Pizza is the name of a popular restaurant chain in the U.S. and apparently in the U.K. as well. They sell, well, pizza of course. And just in case anyone didn't get my joke about a tombstone on their pizza that is another brand of pizza. Here in the U.S. there is a brand of frozen pizzas called Tombstone you buy at Wal-Mart, Publics, Giant Eagle, or wherever you like to shop and take it home and put it in the oven for 30 minutes. There company logo is, what do you want on your tombstone? I changed that around and asked what kind of tombstone do you want on your pizza? On 3/4/11, NIcol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote: What is dominoes? I never heard of that in south African pizza places. Debonairs, hmm, their crush is always too thick but their toppings is nice. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Beat-M-Ups was Beat It Extreme
Hi Clement, No, it definitely doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy. In fact, that's a very bad idea considering how fanatical Nintendo is about their copyrights to begin with. Plus something like Batman has so many copyrights on it from music, sounds, trademark, etc that would require some pretty major changes to slip under the copyright radar. That said, we can use such games as a starting place for ideas, general game play, and so on. Heck if we wanted a game like Batman instead of having it in Gothom City we can create our own imaginary city, super hero, and purchase original music, and we are set. Even if this man or woman is American doesn't mean he/she can't be trained in martial arts and weapons. Just makes it more interesting than the typical Asian Ninja beat-m-up is all. Any way, it might be nice to keep the topic on list. After all, others might be interested in dropping their ideas in the hat and we can see what comes of it.Yohandy seams interested, your interested, I'm interested and the list is a great forum for hashing out ideas for a game like this. On 3/5/11, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: True that. But it doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy with different characters though, does it? Double Dragon reputedly had martial arts in it, and you could, say, change the nationality of the characters if you are going to change the names as well. In that way, if they were to be Japanese or Asian, the game could take place in Asia, and thus feature a more martial arts-related kind of sceen. If you really do want to know what I have to say, we can continue this discussion offlist or on... I'd be happy to do either. I just think that martial arts is a great setting for beat em ups. Especially sidescrolling ones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
