RE: beta testing

2021-04-20 Thread Star Gazer
I managed to get 3. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 2:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: beta testing If you get one ignorant technical support person hang up and call back or ask to speak to a supervisor. From: viphone

RE: beta testing

2021-04-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you get one ignorant technical support person hang up and call back or ask to speak to a supervisor. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: beta testing Thank you Daniel. I’m sorry my note came

RE: beta testing

2021-04-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Gazer Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 12:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: beta testing Thank you Daniel. I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and also if they could make it so

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2021-04-19 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Of Daniel MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, 20 April 2021 1:58 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: Daniel Macdonald Subject: Re: beta testing Wow! I think. All apple technical support employees should be trained in VoiceOver. To have one not know what bluetooth is probably signifies that they were new and just

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2021-04-19 Thread Richard Turner
, 1819-1900 Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 7:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: beta testing I had 3 misses. Very frustrating and I’m sorry, being new at a job doesn’t exc

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2021-04-19 Thread Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 9:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: Daniel Macdonald Subject: Re: beta testing Wow! I think. All apple technical support employees should be trained in VoiceOver. To have one not know what bluetooth is probably signifies that they were new and just applied

RE: beta testing

2021-04-19 Thread Star Gazer
of someone’s truck, and thought voiceover was where you talk to the phone. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Daniel MacDonald Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing Well, without beta testing you have accessibil...@apple.com and for bugs

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2021-04-17 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Well, without beta testing you have accessibil...@apple.com and for bugs you can submit reports to apple.com/feedback. Beta testing is the best way, but you’ve got options for not being interested. Daniel > On Apr 16, 2021, at 11:48 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > >  > Possibly the

RE: beta testing

2021-04-16 Thread Simon A Fogarty
: RE: beta testing Thank you Daniel. I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go when using Bluetooth over

RE: beta testing

2021-04-16 Thread Carolyn
I would have a bird, if I couldn't wireless charge my 11! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: beta testing Thank you Daniel. I’m

RE: beta testing

2021-04-16 Thread Star Gazer
Thank you Daniel. I’m not interested in beta testing, though I’d absolutely love it if apple fixed whatever issue is causing the Iphone 12’s not to charge wirelessly and also if they could make it so you could pick where you wanted voiceover to go when using Bluetooth over the speaker or over

Re: beta testing

2021-04-16 Thread Daniel MacDonald
IOS 15 is around the corner. I’ll start beta testing when the developer beta 1 is available. Not much is known about the OS, and developers and beta testers alike sign a non-discloser agreement and since this list is not for betas, I can’t say anything until iOS 15 is officially reliesed

Re: beta testing

2021-04-15 Thread kliph miller Sr
I run a beta list, and we test all betas with all aspects. IOS, MacOS, iPads, iPhones, with and without bluetooth keyboards. Even submitted bug reports, and share those bug report numbers so it can be referenced and be connected to the same issue. My groups User of just apple products, like

Re: beta testing

2021-04-15 Thread Mary Otten
As someone who does not use a display or a keyboard with my phone, I can tell you that there are a lot of beta testers who do the same. Would you like to do it as well? Do you have a device that’s not your daily device? How about joining the party. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2021,

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2021-04-15 Thread deidreandlouise
I would urge beta testers to do a lot of the testing of features not just from bluetooth keyboards but through touching and tapping and swiping on the screen. I think things have been overlooked in the past in regard to swiping vs things that work real well for those using bluetooth keyboards

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
23, 2015 4:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose VoiceOver when I answer a call with my headset on, and VoiceOver freezes

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Paul Richard McGann
see you but you can't see me. -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Ugh, tat bts. I do a lot of email on the iPhone, and being able to answer my phone

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > For me, I didn't

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Rajmund
Hello, For me, its even more than a good 30 seconds. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:26 am Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Well maybe it's because I'm us

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Davert
rsday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > Hello Mark, > Thanks much for checking into it for me; its appreciated. :) Although, the > new release can't be that bad, there's only one new bug, and quite a

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Mário Navarro
, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testin

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Message - From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 1:37 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > I can assure you, I'm not missing the point. The fact that Apple has a > lot of products is irrelev

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
esters, know, is that >>>> with any company, be it Apple, Microsoft, Sony, etc, reporting a >>>> problem, >>>> regardless of how important it may appear to be to the tester, is not >>>> always >>>> addressed immediately or, in some cases

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
eta testers can do, is to make the organization aware of the problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future release. In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs get squashed, no one pays attention to them or cares how or why they were reso

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose VoiceOver when I answer a call with my headset on, and Voice

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Hello, Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > For me, I didn't find any

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > >> >> >> For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never >> regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose >> VoiceOver when

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Paul Richard McGann
to us. that is lag time. rich -Original Message- From: Scott Davert Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hi Chris Chaltain. You shouldn't need to restart VoiceOver each time you reply to an email, you should

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread chris
t shipping next Thursday. Regards, Sieghard Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
and setting up as a new phone would do. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
ch will be available to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping >>>> next Thursday. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> &g

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
one@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hi Do these podcasts also talk about software for say the Apple TV? OS X? Watch OS? Don't worry if you don't know; I can a

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Regina Alvarado
hole. reggie & Lex On Oct 22, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote: hi, I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased with the degree of feedback I've gotten from their e

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
hy not go to a > different operating system like Android? See, Krister has a point. No matter > how long we take to beta test products and when the official release does > come out, people always have to find something else to bitch about. It makes > me wonder sometimes why I both

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
responsibility to fix bugs, you can only do as much as reporting. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:29 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > So I have a question

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Hello, Haven't used windows - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:37 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Finally someone who sees sense! It's always

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
wonder sometimes why I bother beta testing for these spoiled folks that think everything should be perfect and go on bashing the people that are involved in trying to make the software a success. And then I remember that there are people that do appreciate what people like myself are doing. So

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
ch I refuse >> to be labelled that way, don't know about anyone else, why not go to a >> different operating system like Android? See, Krister has a point. No matter >> how long we take to beta test products and when the official release does >> come out, people always have to find so

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread englishrider91
le like the fourth generation Apple TV >>> which will be available to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping >>> next Thursday. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> S

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
o: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hello Mark, Thanks much for checking into it for me; its appreciated. :) Although, the new release can't be that bad, there's only one new bug, and quite a few less, really. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor <m

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Rajmund > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > Hello Mark, > Thanks much for checking into it for me; its appreciated. :) Al

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
to beta test products and when the official release does come out, people always have to find something else to bitch about. It makes me wonder sometimes why I bother beta testing for these spoiled folks that think everything should be perfect and go on bashing the people that are involved

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
te: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:50 am Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hello Rajmund, I don't think it a breach of any protocol to let you know that, I just checked the beta site and there has been no future beta posted, yet. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegrou

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Robin
to find something else to bitch about. It makes me wonder sometimes why I bother beta testing for these spoiled folks that think everything should be perfect and go on bashing the people that are involved in trying to make the software a success. And then I remember that there are people that do

A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
said problems in a future release. In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs get squashed, no one pays attention to them or cares how or why they were resolved and when bugs remain, people think that the testers are not testing well enough. To me, beta testing

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Krister Ekstrom
o external testers. > > All we, as beta testers can do, is to make the organization aware of the > problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future > release. > > In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs > get squash

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:59 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Everyone, > Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last > year. A number of them were directly

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Connie Mohney
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing hi, I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
ubject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > hi, > > I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't > get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased with the degree of > feedback I've gotten from their engineering staff and the bugs t

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ission critical problems, it may appear to be to external testers. All we, as beta testers can do, is to make the organization aware of the problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future release. In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs get sq

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
you an >> apple employee? Thank you for answering my questions. >> Connie >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Woody Anna Dresner >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM &

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
inal Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > hi, > > I've been beta testin

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Connie Mohney
: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing To be a publick beta tester go to beta.apple.com and sign up for the program. When this is done, on the phone, go to beta.apple.com/profile and install the profile app. You will need to restart

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
, October 22, 2015 11:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hello, I know people can't speak about it, and I don't expect them to, either. But is the new IOS version in beta, already, or not quite yet? - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
ber 23, 2015 2:50 am Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Hello Rajmund, > > I don't think it a breach of any protocol to let you know that, I just > checked the beta site and there has been no future beta posted, yet. > > Mark > > -Original Message--

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
he organization aware of the > problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future > release. > > In my opinion, beta testing is a somewhat thankless job because, when bugs > get squashed, no one pays attention to them or cares how or why they were > resolved and when bugs r

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'v done some beta testing in my life time because I wanted to help out and because I wanted to play with the latest and greatest. Sometimes, that meant that I was going to run into trouble. Then I had to make my report and wait for instructions. Sometimes they wanted me to try

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
terms of addressing non-mission critical problems, it may >> appear to be to external testers. >> >> All we, as beta testers can do, is to make the organization aware of the >> problems and hope that it will manage to address said problems in a future >> release. >>

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Wayne Merritt
s >>> addressed immediately or, in some cases, ever. >>> >>> It has been my experience that the larger an organization becomes, the >>> less >>> responsive, in terms of addressing non-mission critical problems, it may >>> appear to be to exter

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
hi, I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased with the degree of feedback I've gotten from their engineering staff and the bugs they have fixed that I've reported. I wish there was a longer time period

Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-15 Thread Davy Cuppens
OK Oso I understand that people that have no MAC can never enrole their iPhones to get an invite to betatest. Regards DAvy From: Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 6:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing Yes. You need to enroll

A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi all. I have to correct myself here. In this link I'm about to post, it says that anyone, not the first hundred thousand users, who took part in the OS X Yosemite beta can take part in the iOS Beta. Here's the link. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2478244,00.asp

Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-14 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello, Thanks for the link. However I still don't quite get how it's supposed to work. Here is what I am reading on that page. The program is invite-only, but anyone can sign up online for the OS X Beta project via the Beta Software Program site, Apple said. So I have signed up for the program

Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Do you have a Mac? If so, you sign up for the OS X beta, then you should be getting an invite for the iOS beta. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Mar 14, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Thanks for the link. However I still don't quite get how it's

Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-14 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Dos anyone know if I have to enroll my mac in the beta program to get the ios invite? I'm not really intrested to beta test osx and have signed up but no luck with invitation. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Do you have a Mac?

Re: A Correction In Regards to iOS Beta Testing

2015-03-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Yes. You need to enroll your Mac and install the beta for OS X Yosemite in order to get the iOS invite. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2015, at 12:11 AM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote: Dos anyone know if I have to enroll my mac in the beta program to get the ios invite? I'm

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Rocket
Why is it such a big deal to want to be a veta tester? Does one get paid or rewarded in some way for doing this for a private company? Marco the rocket! Sent from my iPad On 2013-02-27, at 7:34, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com wrote: Hi, I just called the toll

RE: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, 2013 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why is it such a big deal to want to be a veta tester? Does one get paid or rewarded in some way for doing this for a private

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Peter Holdstock
and see the changes which come from it. Peter -Original Message- From: Rocket Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, a couple of reasons I think. First, you usually get the app or, whatever your testing for free. Second, its cool to have something before everyone else, although you are not permitted to talk about it. Lastly, for me at least, It is a good feeling knowing that your comments and

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Rocket
-Original Message- From: Rocket Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access! Why is it such a big deal to want to be a veta

Re: beta testing was Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

2013-02-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
testers. A good beta tester and a good beta testing program do place some burdens on the beta tester. You have to keep details about the product you're beta testing confidential, and you're usually expected to provide feedback, both good and bad, so it's more than just an opportunity to get your