Re: [Vo]:Gasoline Tax Replacement

2009-02-20 Thread leaking pen
how about the companies SELLING and making a profit on those goods? On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:44 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:22:35 -0500: Hi, [snip] By fair, I meant the fuel tax was relatively fair in that the weight of the

Re: [Vo]:Gasoline Tax Replacement

2009-02-21 Thread leaking pen
This, unfortunately. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:51 AM, R C Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com wrote: That's no longer the way the game is played. Jack up the price, skim the money to offshore and Pay NO tax. Richard In reply to leaking pen's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:56:07 -0700: Hi, how

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread leaking pen
And doing so on an open list, not private email. which means he has a right to respond as well. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Grok, I was asking Thomas, not you. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-24 Thread leaking pen
Well, to go for classic evangelical christian belief, likely that jesus is the son of god, died for our sins, and that salvation can only come through him. Oh, and that, even though Christ himself rejected large parts of the laws of the old testament, you have to follow them verbatim. except

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-24 Thread leaking pen
wrote: leaking pen wrote: Well, to go for classic evangelical christian belief, likely that jesus is the son of god, died for our sins, and that salvation can only come through him. I think you leaked a word or two here; this sentence contains only dependent clauses. What's the proposed

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-24 Thread leaking pen
Ohh, sorry. My original comment was being sarcastic, in that you had to follow all the laws of the old testament, except, it seems, EATING shellfish or WEARING two fabrics at once, since most evangelicals seem to feel those arent important anymore. I figured that with a smart crowd like this, I

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-24 Thread leaking pen
Sigh. So many forget that last one, and Jesus said he felt it the most important commandment. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:14 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: OrionWorks wrote: Hi Thomas, You brought up many interesting issues for which most are ripe for comment. I will try to

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-25 Thread leaking pen
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and man is inherently sinful... On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: OrionWorks wrote: Hi Thomas, You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what Believe, be

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-26 Thread leaking pen
...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and man is inherently sinful... No, no, you don't have that right. God created the angels, the Nephilim, and the human race, but His track record, which is documented in the Bible along

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-26 Thread leaking pen
sa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist? Hmmm, interesting question!  I'm glad you asked me that, young man! Next question, please! (Errr... Perhaps God's

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-26 Thread leaking pen
Are you suggesting that the 4th planet is what happened the first time Satan got uppity? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: leaking pen wrote: why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the ability to tell the difference between

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on this and that

2009-02-26 Thread leaking pen
4. When you get down to it, no one owes anyone anything. It all cancels out. You highminded geeks owe the lowly greasemonkey and metal press operator just as much as he owes you. So shut up. preach on brother! That opinion pisses me off a lot, Some of my friends that were able to go to a REAL

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
This is becuase the organic old school sprays that most organic farms use are actually MORE toxic. Most modern bug and fungus sprays are designed to break down quickly and NOT poison groundwater. Where as the old organics One of the common fungicides is copper acetate or sulfate. Which

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
in the produce and beter levels of vitamins, phytonutrients and minerals. If certified organic in the US is so poorly regulated to include such sprays then that's another issues, not the case here. (NZ) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:39 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: This is becuase

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-08 Thread leaking pen
, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: Copper sulfate and other copper salts are pretty much the ONLY fungicides used by organic farming. The sprays used today by conventional farming are NOT the poisonous , groundwater polluting, wildlife killing soups they were 20 years ago. We figured out

Re: [Vo]:Organic farming under threat...

2009-03-09 Thread leaking pen
a mistake but it's one I don't have anymore time to correct right now. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com wrote: In other words you have a gut instinct that I'm wrong, I mean, organic HAS to be better, right? Just look at the name. But you have no clue in what way I'm

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
More importantly, winters are getting colder, from more open water and less ice, causing more reflection back, and summers hotter, melting the ice, repeating the cycle. look at summer data, and winter data. hotter in summer, colder in winter, than previous. This is why its called global climate

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
I have a spelling chequer. It came with my PC. It plane lee marks four my revue Miss steaks aye can knot sea. Eye ran this poem threw it, Your sure reel glad two no. Its vary polished inn it's weigh. My checker tolled me sew. A checker is a bless sing, It freeze yew lodes of thyme. It helps me

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
Umm, my name isnt steven On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes including colder than normal temperatures in winter. That's why

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: Umm, my name isnt steven Ahh, there are so many stevens, stephens, steves, and whatnot in this group that nobody can keep them straight anymore, and I'm not surprised that thomas gets confused

[Vo]:oddly appropriate comic for this group

2009-03-22 Thread leaking pen
http://cowbirdsinlove.com/comics/46/engineer.png

Re: [Vo]:Off topic biological problem

2009-03-23 Thread leaking pen
You can adjust it yourself, and there are hot water bacteria that will also grow, which is why its wiser to heat cold tap water than to use hot water from teh taop for drinking and such. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:19 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: My water tank broke about 3 months ago.  A new

Re: [Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread leaking pen
To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device, added the study's co-author in a statement. Really? REALLY really? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:OT: exploding cordless vacuum cleaner

2009-03-27 Thread leaking pen
Static buildup, ignition of dust. I've heard of several cases where the static buildup from the cyclone style canister vacs spark and ignite some of the deodorizing powders that have become popular. I got good 5 inch arcs off a vacuum once, so I can believe it. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:15 AM,

Re: [Vo]:OT: exploding cordless vacuum cleaner

2009-03-27 Thread leaking pen
of protection from an explosion 8 or 10 away. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:51:34AM -0700, leaking pen wrote: Static buildup, ignition of dust.  I've heard of several cases where the static buildup from the cyclone style canister vacs spark and ignite some of the deodorizing powders that have

Re: [Vo]:OT: exploding cordless vacuum cleaner

2009-03-27 Thread leaking pen
all i can plead is that my work internet filters prevent me from seeing the picture, and i skimmed the article. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to  leaking pen's message of Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:36:58 -0700: Hi, [snip] Darn.  so much for my exploding static

Re: [Vo]:Crazy?

2009-03-28 Thread leaking pen
Being a young American citizen is a crime now, I suppose. Where have you been? Being a kid has involved a significant lack of the normal human rights you normally get the moment you turn 18 for a LONG while now. and, this has been in the works for FOREVER. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Kyle

Re: [Vo]:Crazy?

2009-03-28 Thread leaking pen
Americans need to get in line, toe the line, keep quiet, and obey orders. Ohh no no no. No we don't. But being forced to think of other people, and a bit of self discipline would be a good thing. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Rhong Dhong rongdon...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know why people

Re: [Vo]:crazy

2009-03-28 Thread leaking pen
Wow. Guys, put the pipes down. Stop the bubbles. Your dealers cut it with some REALLY nasty crap. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, J. Klum jk...@embarqmail.com wrote: Rhong Dhong wrote: Kyle McAllister Writes: +++ Excuse me. I am in line. I do the best I can... I /TOW/ the line. I pay my

Re: [Vo]:Yeast powered fuel cell feeds on human blood

2009-04-02 Thread leaking pen
well, its not the yeasts waste thats the problem. the human body will deal with dead yeast, alcohol, ketones, and co2 with ease. Its getting the waste out of the fuel cell, and leaving everything else in. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Really. See:

Re: [Vo]:Yeast powered fuel cell feeds on human blood

2009-04-02 Thread leaking pen
at certain points, such as working anaerobically, there is a massive slowdown on reproduction, but they DO keep working just to eat and excrete. also, genetic manipulation to furth reduce, as well as to shorten lifespan before existing cells die. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Edmund Storms

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Real time bus schedule

2009-04-15 Thread leaking pen
I know the bus system here in phoenix has been equipped with gps for a while. one of the uses is an automated, you are approaching X street announcement over the pa system that tags when you reach certain spots. THEY have the live tracking, but they havent given it publicly. sigh. On Tue, Apr

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-25 Thread leaking pen
Umm, thats been known since biosphere 2 days. They did several experiments that showed that, but also showed that plants, especially trees, grew taller but skinner, more knotted (bad for the logging industry!) and that other plants grew at weird rates as well, and that it generally caused havoc.

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-25 Thread leaking pen
The thing is, we are ALREADY doing something. If we want to do nothing, then we cut all manmade co2 sources instantly. doing SOMETHING is doing just what we are doing already. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote: It appears from your analysis that the earth has

Re: [Vo]:Extinct creature still alive?

2009-04-25 Thread leaking pen
trilos didnt have the tail looks like a tadpole shrimp to me http://www.caver.net/shrimp.html On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi, This looks to my untrained eye like a Trilobite. http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/3-1323.jpg (see also

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-26 Thread leaking pen
See, theres a big difference between crippling, and causing them to not make as big of a profit. (remember, this is the industry that has made new record profits every quarter for the past several years. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote: I'm all for replacing

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-26 Thread leaking pen
, no breathing. I used to think like this back in junior high school, that the biggest problem on earth is people, and that if we eliminate all people the planet would be perfect. I outgrew those thoughts. Jeff -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread leaking pen
No, its to avoid putting additional co2 and other such chemicals into the environment. the algae is all gas that has been removed from the environment. nice cycle. Remember, those of use that actually use logic know that a single approach will not work. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Harry

Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-04-30 Thread leaking pen
So, the so called swine flu may just be spanish flu? the puerco flu? On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: An interactive article on the current outbreak of H1N1 and the virus' impact in 1918: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2008/jan/03/flu And

Re: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-05-01 Thread leaking pen
WOOT! I for one think that the immigration and naturalization act was the biggest stain on the face of our constitution and declaration to ever be passed as law. My mother immigrated legally from canada, my fathers family came over before it WAS the united states, and they just, came. no legal

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR and CBS video offline

2009-05-01 Thread leaking pen
Indeed, if they popped it on a server for lesser videos, and it got more popular than they intended, that could cause it to stop working for a while. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: My ISP lost my e-mail address and credit card number, and then pulled

Re: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-05-01 Thread leaking pen
don't stay. ;-) Harry - Original Message - From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com Date: Friday, May 1, 2009 8:26 am Subject: Re: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity WOOT!  I for one think that the immigration and naturalization act was the biggest stain on the face of our constitution

Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-05-01 Thread leaking pen
I think hes SHOWING you the answer. But he has a good point. just what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, albedo5 albe...@gmail.com wrote: Are you truly incapable of answering a simple question, grok? Inquiring minds wanna know now. On Fri,

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread leaking pen
try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: A couple decades ago I was, for a brief time, a (not very good) hardware design engineer.  In the lab, we used cyanoacrylate to glue parts to boards, and we used spray bottles

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Cyanoacrylate activator: Where did it go?

2009-05-13 Thread leaking pen
hunh. I've seen it at craft stores, but not hardware. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: try searching cyanoacrylate accelerator Sigh... OK, yes, I should have done that to start with.  Actually I rather hoped there was some

Re: [Vo]:send Bill B some money for putting up with a lot

2009-05-21 Thread leaking pen
Perhaps we remove vob and just institute a swear jar type thing. a buck fee for starting an ot post, a quarter per post you make within such a thread. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:15 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Good call, Frank. - Rick I would agree. Sometimes I wish Mr.

Re: [Vo]:Zitter and ZPE

2009-05-22 Thread leaking pen
Reminds me of my thoughts the first time I was introduced to superstring theory. the expanding contracting strings sure sounded to me as the 3 from 4 dimensional equivilant to cutting a chord across a 3 dimensional wave form, and as the wave moves, getting shrinking and contracting lines on your

Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-23 Thread leaking pen
Umm, if we are talking nanometer distances... water is, due to naturally h+ and oh - dissasociation, going to have pockets of charge. mighten they not be moving towards each other, but towards the same patch of water? On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-23 Thread leaking pen
Exactly. the more i think of it, the more i wonder also... a lot of dna movement in liquids , the charge and polarity, is based on the final few bps on each end. I wonder if same bp ends but different strands would end up together... that or size in general. you know, the same thing that

Re: [Vo]:Zitter and ZPE

2009-05-26 Thread leaking pen
its not just genetic inability to mate. its also social. For example, bobcats will and still sometimes DO sucessfully mate with housecats with non mule offspring. but they generally do not, from a social standpoint. Darwins finches that speciated apart did so in large part not because of genetics,

Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

2009-05-29 Thread leaking pen
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:49 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote: Oh, and BTW, you can't use the word collective in Vortex.   That is for VortexB only. We are the Vortex. Resistance is Futile. You will be educated.

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-30 Thread leaking pen
I knew this article reminded me of something. Thanks Bill. btw, cant resist. Watch ribosomes come flying in from a distance, then somehow finding and docking to a pore on the nucleus membrane. What attracts them to the membrane? How to they find the pore itself? Wouldn't there have to be

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
at the same energy state? Alex On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: Im now imagining a rick moranis ribosome wandering around the cell, are you the gatekeeper? I am the keymaster. Give Moranis a radio direction finder

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:10 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: People in the uberman/polyphasic sleep community think it's a learnable behavior. Perhaps it helps to start out with unusual brain chemistry! But at least in my own case, my

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:44 AM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: leaking pen wrote: Something to remember. electrons don't actually orbit the nucleus. they bounce around randomly, perhaps actually appearing and dissapearing, or, tunneling, within vague cloud like areas known

Re: Great biological mystery force Re: [Vo]:GATC and ESP

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: If I try to boil down all the weird ideas that popped into my head, then here's the real question: do atoms experience significant Vanderwaals forces with nearby atoms of the same species, but not with atoms of different species? (Nearby

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
on the uberman sleep schedule... im confused... After moving a couple years ago, i had a LOT of laundry to do. to get through it all, i spent 3 days setting my alarm clock at roughly hour intervals. get up with the alarm, change dryer and washer loads, fold clothes, back to sleep for an hour.

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
which avoids permanent insanity. :-) Terry On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: on the uberman sleep schedule... im confused... Different groups seem to worship different schedules. As for me, I found that I'd

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
That makes sense. Actually, hunh. like cats and most other hunting animals. I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:07 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: on the uberman sleep schedule... im

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
That was unfair, mean spirited, and does not belong in this conversation. Alex 2009/5/31 Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net: I wonder what type of sleep schedule our primitive ancestors had. Ask grok... -Mark -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-05-31 Thread leaking pen
Remote Viewing Secrets: A Handbook (Paperback) by Joseph McMoneagle assuming that there is no gov funding currently. I could be wrong. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:57 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: Gerald Pollack, a sucessful maverick biochemist at the UW, is trying to collect a list

Re: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-06-01 Thread leaking pen
pretty close to my own feelings on the matter, hence why i said im not sure if they CURRENTLY recieve funding. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:58 AM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Lawrence: There used to be US gov't funding some years ago, but it was discontinued. The fact that

Re: [Vo]:Inventors and Uberman/polyphasic sleep

2009-06-01 Thread leaking pen
predators and moving every so often, so sleeping in a straight chunk works better to let you stay awake all day working. So... narcoleptics... genetic throwbacks? On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:09 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: I wonder what type

Re: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-06-01 Thread leaking pen
When you gaze at Tesla, Tesla gazes back at you! On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:21 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, leaking pen wrote: Remote Viewing Secrets: A Handbook (Paperback) by Joseph McMoneagle assuming that there is no gov funding currently.  I could

Re: [Vo]:Need big list of legit heretical research

2009-06-01 Thread leaking pen
wrote: On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, leaking pen wrote: When you gaze at Tesla, Tesla gazes back at you! He's Cthulu, a Deep One, and is waiting just over the edge to tell you secrets that no sane mind can tolerate! But why would you want to put big square fluorescent fixtures on the walls of your lab

Re: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture

2009-06-03 Thread leaking pen
Well, this is a science forum, so lets test that. And we will do so in true science fashion, by attempting to DISprove our theory. So, our theory is that co2 is NOT a pollutant. To test that, hows about we lock you in a room and pump in co2? see what it does On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:46 PM,

Re: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture

2009-06-03 Thread leaking pen
as well as a method of suicide, combined with carbon MONoxide for a more nerve deadening effect, vis a vis the old, run the car in an enclosed garage and go to sleep method. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: Jeff Fink wrote: If

Re: [Vo]:Sequestering CO2

2009-06-03 Thread leaking pen
Actually, biosphere 2 experiments with raising trees found that in higher co2 environments, they would grow quick and tall, not as wide, not sequester as much co2, and while they used more co2 in respiration, at levels about double our current baseline co2 percentages, the difference between co2

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for some balance?

2009-06-03 Thread leaking pen
Im not too familiar with some of the mathematic principles mentioned, but i did find this First, he mis-applies the Virial theorem. The virial theorem applies to kinetic vs. potential energy, and it can be shown that for an atmosphere in equilibrium it is trivially satisfied by any hydrostically

Re: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture

2009-06-04 Thread leaking pen
Hum, it's almost summer here in the great northwest, why am I wearing this sweater? Oh yes, that's why they call it climate change. and here in arizona , we hit 9 days of over 100 in a row sooner than ever in recorded history. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM, thomas malloy

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for some balance?

2009-06-04 Thread leaking pen
i am in agreement partially. since it included substance, it was simply an insult, as it was not the basis of his arguement. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com wrote: The message, despite the link, was clearly ad-hominem. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Vo]:optical trap for FQ (Feline Quanta)

2009-06-04 Thread leaking pen
::Falls over laughing: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:39 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: We recently constructed the first cat optical trap, a longwave incoherent 1-D version of the laser cooled adiabatic ion trap. Obtain a long spring-arm desklamp, lift it 10 high and aim its emitter

Re: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture

2009-06-04 Thread leaking pen
nor did i ever state that double co2 would do it. i suggested simply turning up the co2 to higher and higher concentrations, you know, just until you stopped breathing! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote: A clarification: I was responding to Leaking pen, when he

Re: [Vo]:optical trap for FQ (Feline Quanta)

2009-06-05 Thread leaking pen
ooo, thinking of other things to add to that list just gave me an idea for a REAL invention doggy/kitty door with an rfid reader for those pets with chips. only your pet can open the door! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:08 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, OrionWorks

Re: [Vo]:The Science of Greenhouse Effect...Time for some balance?

2009-06-05 Thread leaking pen
I don't have a refference, i grabbed that from someones post on a message board, to, as i said, give thought to those who know more about the subject than i to see if that made sense. 2009/6/5 Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net: Just so you all have an idea of what its all about, first, a

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan goes off the deep end! -- The psychology of bigotry

2009-06-05 Thread leaking pen
this should be on B guys. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Lawrence de Bivort: Some 'substitutes' for racial bigotries come readily to mind: anti-Muslim (from evangelical Christians and current American society); anti-Semitism (eg from the

Re: [Vo]:anomalous DNA changes

2009-06-05 Thread leaking pen
okay, codons used are start and stop codons, and codons that cause certain aminos to be put in place. how can you tell if another codon is activated ? im one of the supposed star kids or violet children myself. Had a couple people try to tell my mom that when i was a kid. Her comments, no, hes

Re: [Vo]:anomalous DNA changes

2009-06-05 Thread leaking pen
Monteverder...@highsurf.com wrote: -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:33 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:anomalous DNA changes snip But, the sodium vapor lamp bit is still a great party trick. snip Can

Re: [Vo]:anomalous DNA changes

2009-06-06 Thread leaking pen
ohh absolutely, and i told people that often, i figured that as a kid. However, i put out ones that DONT regularly go out, And at one point, i worked at a grocery store with their parking lot full. i could basically put out different lights at will by waving and thinking at them. How it might

Re: [Vo]:grok is removed temporarily

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
My email doesnt have my real name anymore, due to a few reasons, but its the one i use becuase its my main email. i could easily resubscribe to this list with one that has my name. enh. For all those defending him, i agree with grok politically more than i do anyone else here, it seems, but the

[Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
So, i downloaded this companies smaller developer kit a while ago, and was on their mailing list. They just finally released the big kahuna kit with headsets. If i had the money for investment, id be getting the big license, as i've an even dozen things i can do with those headsets. Sigh. Perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Relativistic magnetic fields and time

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
Since the magnetic field is em radiation of a sort, think of it like the classic spaceship with a flashlight scenario (which is the ONLY thing i have EVER found in physics that i still cannot wrap my mind against. I understand what it is saying, my brain just refuses to accept it as accurate) if

Re: [Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: So, i downloaded this companies smaller developer kit a while ago, and was on their mailing list. They just finally released the big kahuna kit with headsets. If i had the money for investment, id be getting the big license

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and relativity. Was Relativistic magnetic fields and time

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote: OK here goes.  Response below is to Michael's original message and to Leaking's response. The reasponse to Leaking is lengthy; the response to Michael comes 'way down at the end, after it. leaking pen wrote: Since

Re: [Vo]:Time Dilation and relativity. Was Relativistic magnetic fields and time

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
, yes? (damn, i think i reconfused myself) Thank you very very much btw for taking the time on this Stephen! On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote: leaking pen wrote: So... I think i followed all the math on that, very simple math, thank you! and, my

Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
the difference between science and hard facts, and politics and opinion? seems easy to me. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David Jonssondavidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote: How do you make the differentiation between politics and physics? Hard. Best wishes, David On 6/8/09, William Beaty

Re: [Vo]:Relativistic magnetic fields and time

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
at 10:11 AM, Michael Crosiarcrosia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Leaking Pen, I have to admit I cheated and looked ahead to Stephens reply. His reply is far better than I could ever give. I will reply anyway as maybe I will get corrected and learn something new... Since the magnetic field is em

Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
if you have to believe you have missed the point. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Jeff Finkrev...@ptd.net wrote: Politics will ultimately determine the brand of physics we are allowed to believe. Jeff -Original Message- From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com]

Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
a supportive political framework. Harry - Original Message - From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com Date: Monday, June 8, 2009 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here the difference between science and hard facts, and politics and opinion? seems easy to me. On Mon, Jun

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2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
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Re: [Vo]:unsubscribe

2009-06-08 Thread leaking pen
whoops, thanks terry. i even recall when that happened previously. and... my other email was already subscribed? da hell? On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Terry Blantonhohlr...@gmail.com wrote: you have to send that to vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, leaking

Re: WAY OFF TOPIC Making Saddam Hussein the enemy

2005-12-15 Thread leaking pen
heck, some of us here in the us have a problem than anyone EVER believed it, let alone still do. On 12/15/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just writing to a friend in Europe,explaining that some Americans still believe thatSaddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attack, and

Re: Productive Sequestering

2005-12-16 Thread leaking pen
only gets rid of it for so long though. On 12/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6827 The energy industry has found a new way to dispose of the greenhousegas carbon dioxide: pump it back into the underground oil

Re: Productive Sequestering

2005-12-16 Thread leaking pen
lesse... gas, stone. you tell me? its going to end up in any water source that runs through it, bubling out, bubbling through the small holes in the rock, and eventually be released enmasse as holes open up due to geological activity. On 12/16/05, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

2005-12-19 Thread leaking pen
first thought, id have to do it to match, but the color of the glow is similar to burning baking soda. it could simply be the layer on the alluminum valence jumping. On 12/19/05, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See below!-- Forwarded message --Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:35:07

Re: weird glow from aluminum in baking soda solution

2005-12-19 Thread leaking pen
i go with that. especially, as i said, the color matches when you burn it. therefore it makes sense that we have electrons jumping to higher valence energy levels, and emitting when they drop. On 12/19/05, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply toWilliam Beaty's message of Mon, 19

Re: BMW ICE Steam Hybrid

2005-12-20 Thread leaking pen
becuase... running a sirling off the heat from the engine coolant and block is innefficient? On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, someone finds a practical way to use the wasted ICE heat: http://www.gizmag.com/go/4936/The concept uses energy from the exhaust gasses of

Re: BMW ICE Steam Hybrid

2005-12-20 Thread leaking pen
okay, i hadnt looked that close at the schematics. you're right, they ARE using the other waste heat as well. On 12/20/05, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: becuase...running a sirling off the heat from the engine coolant and block is innefficient?Who says

Re: OT: global warming humour

2006-01-09 Thread leaking pen
ha. i love that old joke. was first told to me by an apache that was simply called grandfather by everyone, even MY grandfather, about 10-15 years back. he loved the reaction of people that would laugh, start to stop thinking it might be offensive, then break up again. On 1/9/06, Grimer [EMAIL

Re: Has Physics Gone Nuts?

2006-01-10 Thread leaking pen
i think leon lederman put it best. In The God Particle, he outlined the two distinct schools that have developed, the theorist and the experimenter. there are those that come up with the math, the theory, and then those that get up and actually do it. it used to be one and the same, but its become

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