Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Clem Clarke

Greetings.

I want to share some PL/I and Assembler code through Open Source, and
wonder where the best place might be to do this.

And, of course, any changes to the code need to be made available for all.


I have the following:

1.  An entire interpretive language that can be used as a shell on MVS,
Z/OS, Dos, Windows and OS/2 machines (Linux to come).  There are 4 main
versions:

a) PL/I using DR/PLI.
b) 370 ASM code using the MVS Assembler
c) C, using Borland C, but also GCC can be used.
d) Pascal, using Borland Pascal.

It can also generate MVS JCL, and be used as an entire JCL replacement,
using a scripting language.  It was used by AMOCO, Shell Corporation and 
other similar sized companies for decades to run their mainframes.



You can write COPY data.set1 to data.set2.

To copy an entire PDS, you simply add the word PDS to the above
statement. Thus

  COPY pds1 to pds2 PDS; will invoke IEBCOPY to do the copy.

It has a data base containing information about data sets, and so you
need never code SPACE or RECFM details again.

And to print a file, simply code PRINT data.set.tobe.printed.

There is also a Job Scheduling package with it and so you can write
statements like:

  SUBMIT JOB1;
  SUBMIT JOB2;
  If Day='MONDAY' then do;
 display 'Running Monday Update';
 SUBMIT MonUPDT AFTER JOB1  JOB2 ENDED;
  end;

There is a lot more, including an easy way to write Panels with Menu
Bars and Popups on 3270's and Windows machines.

You can find information at

 http://www.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd



2. An entire Indexing Package for indexing manuals.  It is slightly
different from most indexing packages.


3. Screen handling code that is useful for data input.  Various version
exist, and the C version can be used on 3270's or on Windows using the
same code.


4. A 370 Asm to Intel Pentium converter and debugger.


5. Other pieces of software that can be found at:
   http://www.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd


My preference would be for IBM to maintain the JCL replacement language
so that companies would have a secure feeling, but this seems impossible
to do until Share or some similar size company can convince IBM that it
is a good idea.  In the meantime, I hope that people will be able to
make good use of it, or even some of the code within.

I would imagine that the Assembler code would be placed in the CBT
tapes, and the C, Pascal and PL/I in Source Forge.

And I also imagine that the IBM Open Source contract or the Apache 
contract could be used.


Does anyone have thoughts on this?

Many thanks,

Clem Clarke

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RE-TSO COLUMNS Command

2006-04-25 Thread ANGEL LUIS DOMINGUEZ MARTIN
  As an appointment, I use an EDIT MACRO from Mark Zelden (thanks a lot Mark) 
named COLUTIL that is one of the most usefull piece of code I have. ISPF Edit 
is really enhancend with this macro.
   
  You can download from http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutilr.html#macros
   
  Angel Luis Domínguez
  bbva - spain - gestión integrada de sistemas
   
  Las actitudes son más importantes que las aptitudes Winston Chrchill.
   
  -Mensaje original-
  De: willie bunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: TSO COLUMNS Command
  Hi,
  Can anybody please jog my aging memory. I would like to just view columns 50 
-55 when in edit/browse mode in a dsn. Can you please tell me the command that 
I can use. Also, can we do an INCLUDE or EXCLUDE when performing a FIND 
command. I remember I
  could do this in ROSCOE.a... the good old days. Pardon me for 
reminiscing.
  Thanks in advance.
  -


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Re: Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Stephen Y Odo
seems like the CBT tape would be a good home for this.  see 
http://www.cbttape.org/


-- Stephen

Clem Clarke wrote:


Greetings.

I want to share some PL/I and Assembler code through Open Source, and
wonder where the best place might be to do this.

And, of course, any changes to the code need to be made available for 
all.


*snip*

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Re: Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Paul Gillis

Clem Clarke wrote:

Greetings.

I want to share some PL/I and Assembler code through Open Source, and
wonder where the best place might be to do this.



Hi Clem,

Either Sam Knutson or Sam Golob at www.cbttape.org would be more than 
happy to provide a place for your code. Does this now mean that JOL will 
be available in the public domain? I remember cutting my assembler teeth 
on JOL at Shell in the 70's.


Regards, Paul Gillis

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Re: Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Paul Gillis

Paul Gillis wrote:

Clem Clarke wrote:

Greetings.

I want to share some PL/I and Assembler code through Open Source, and
wonder where the best place might be to do this.



Hi Clem,

Either Sam Knutson or Sam Golob at www.cbttape.org would be more than 
happy to provide a place for your code. Does this now mean that JOL will 
be available in the public domain? I remember cutting my assembler teeth 
on JOL at Shell in the 70's.


Regards, Paul Gillis


Took a few breaths and re-read your email. I would recommend it all went 
onto the cbttape, and if an open source license is required, why not use 
the GNU General Public License available at 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt


Regards, Paul Gillis

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Paul Gillis

John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
I vaguly remember reading a paper (about 7 or 8 years ago) where 
somebody turn off SMF recording and saw no measureable difference in CPU 
 utilziation.   


I wonder how they measured it?

Regards, Paul Gillis

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Re: Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 17:42 +1000, Paul Gillis wrote:

 Took a few breaths and re-read your email. I would recommend it all went 
 onto the cbttape, and if an open source license is required, why not use 
 the GNU General Public License available at 
 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt

That would be v2 no doubt.
I seem to recall that a v3 has been under discussion for some little
while. One Mr Torvalds not necessarily agreeing with the direction one
Mr Stallman might wish to proceed on.

Nothing is ever simple ...

Shane ...

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Re: Open Sourcing ASM, PL/I and C Code

2006-04-25 Thread Paul Gillis

Shane wrote:

On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 17:42 +1000, Paul Gillis wrote:

Took a few breaths and re-read your email. I would recommend it all went 
onto the cbttape, and if an open source license is required, why not use 
the GNU General Public License available at 
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt


That would be v2 no doubt.
I seem to recall that a v3 has been under discussion for some little
while. One Mr Torvalds not necessarily agreeing with the direction one
Mr Stallman might wish to proceed on.

Nothing is ever simple ...

Shane ...


The gent who pointed me to the GNU license specifies GPL VERSION 2 
ONLY as he is not comfortable with or future versions clause. If Clem 
is to release his source code into our custody (thanks Sam and Sam), 
then he needs to select an appropriate license, disclaimer, etc...


Regards, Paul Gillis

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Paul Gillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
  I vaguly remember reading a paper (about 7 or 8 years ago) where 
  somebody turn off SMF recording and saw no measureable difference in CPU 
   utilziation.   
 
 I wonder how they measured it?
 
 Regards, Paul Gillis
 

I remember it too. One of the arguments was, that most data was gathered anyway 
for reasons other than SMF (or RMF etc.) and the overhead of building an SMF 
record from it, presenting it to SMF and SMF writing it, was negligable.

Kees.


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Re: Multi-level Alias

2006-04-25 Thread Jousma, David
Bob,

Thanks for the pointer, I'll go find that session, and check it out.

Dave 



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I haven't tried it, but after attending  Mark Thomen's Best Practices
for Catalog and VSAM session (3057) at Seattle SHARE, I'm seriously
considering it. 
  The handout is on the SHARE web site.

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Re: PDSEs in LNKLST at IPL can't be deleted

2006-04-25 Thread Peter Relson
Isn't there still some code in the system that uses the original DEB?
No

No (IBM-owned) system code uses CVTLINK or its DCB/DEB directly. When the
system sees CVTLINK it translates CVTLINK into ASSBDLCB - DLCBDCB@ .
Code stll running with the IPL-time LNKLST will of course access the
original DEB when using the DLCBDCB@ path.
.
After a LNKLST UPDATE JOB(*) to a new LNKLST there won't be any such code
(aside from the unpredictably dangerous window conditions).

There could still be vendor or customer code that traverses the DCB/DEB
path from CVTLINK. It is for this reason that we commit never to free the
DCB/DEB of the IPL-time LNKLST.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Offensive Language

2006-04-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young
 
 On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Bruce Black wrote:
 
 But Darrens issue is not the language, it is all the filters in place

 at many subscribers locations which generate email back to Darren for

 each offensive word.
 
 I had one (thankfully only one) content filter reject a 
 message recently due to content. I kept reading the post over 
 and over trying to figure out what it was complaining about. 
 I finally found it. Someone used the phrase, referring to 
 mainframes, big *ron.  That was just plain silly.

Maybe somebody could partake of that relatively new American pastime,
litigation, and start suing the purveyors of such mindless nanny
software back to reality.  There will soon be a batch of freshly-minted
lawyers out there

-jc-

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL 
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Don't forget to add in the cost of the periodic IFASMDFP jobs that copy
the SMF data from the SYS1.MANx datasets

I make those IMP=5.
The cost is nothing, since I bought the machine for other work.
IFASMFDP fills in the valleys that would not be used if they weren't there!

Are you in a large shop now?  How busy are your processors?   In our
shop (where we like to run all the processors close to 100% all day), 
putting SMF dumps at the bottom of the totem pole would never work.
You have to be able to dump them faster than they fill up.   We just
had a recent thread on that.  I don't have them in SYSSTC, but they are 
IMP=2.  At one of my former clients (that produced even more SMF data
than we do) we ran the dumps in a service class with IMP=1.  

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New Listserv Version / Web Archives

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
Darren,

Prior to this last upgrade when you viewed a post in the archvies, the
poster's name and subject name both linked to the previous post from 
that poster or previous post on that subject.   That no longer appears
to be the case.   Is this something you can control?

When I start reviewing a thread I was following via the archives 
at the start of my work day, I (used to) go to the latest post and 
click on the subject to move backwards until I get to the last one 
I had previously read so I don't reply with something that has 
already been covered.   

One other thing I noticed... After I hit SEND on the reply page,
I think it said posted and gave you a link to return to the archives.
Now it just gives you another blank reply page.  

Regards,

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Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?

2006-04-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Binyamin Dissen wrote:

:OPEN will not set DCBDSORG.
:If it's 0?
No such thing. DCB macro requires it.
It and the MACRF are required to properly build the DCB and to get the correct
access methods loaded.


Just to be a bit pedantic, he could build his own DCB without using the 
macro. In the past I've committed a few programs that build their own 
control blocks, e.g., DCB/DEB/IOB combinations. Would be interesting to 
try this without a DSORG.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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DFSORT match problem

2006-04-25 Thread Roberto R.
Hello, is it possible to do the following with DFSORT/ICETOOL:

Input1:
A1  X1
A1  X2
B1  X1
B1  Y1

Input2:
X1  ABC
X2  DEF
Y1  GHI

Expected output:
A1  X1  ABC
A1  X2  DEF
B1  X1  ABC
B1  Y1  GHI

I believe it will require multiple scans of Input2. Hope it is clear enough. 
Thanks.

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
 
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 8:02:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who knows how much collection costs?
There are three components of collection that cause overhead directly  
attributable to SMF, but most of which is not measurable:  (1) creation  of 
data 
elements that are not functionally required for the proper functioning  of the 
software component involved and are maintained only to be dumped into  the SMF 
record; (2) gathering of all the data elements and building the  record; (3) 
requesting the SMF writing service (used to be only via an SVC,  now there is 
also branch entry or maybe PC).  Once you are inside the  writing service, the 
test is made as to whether or not that particular record  type is to be written 
(true originally for all record types; now I am not sure  if some can be 
turned off earlier in the process).  IBM has some  undocumented monitor call 
instructions inside the I/O first level interrupt  handler for instrumentation 
purposes.  Maybe they also have some way to  measure the overhead of building 
an 
SMF record.  And maybe they can  report on it some day if they do.  There is no 
way we can find out.   The only part of the overhead we can measure is that 
belonging to the SMF  writing service in the SMF address space, and that's a 
small part of the  total.
 
Bill  Fairchild




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Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?

2006-04-25 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
You could simply code the DCB with DSORG, and at run-time, reinitialize 
the DSORG field.  Why would you want to hand-craft a control block?




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Binyamin Dissen wrote:
 :OPEN will not set DCBDSORG.
 :If it's 0?
 No such thing. DCB macro requires it.
 It and the MACRF are required to properly build the DCB and to get the 
correct
 access methods loaded.

Just to be a bit pedantic, he could build his own DCB without using the 
macro. In the past I've committed a few programs that build their own 
control blocks, e.g., DCB/DEB/IOB combinations. Would be interesting to 
try this without a DSORG.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Looking for SHARE Proceedings machine readable oldies

2006-04-25 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

I collect IBM documentation, conference proceedings, all sorts of odd
things and just now I am looking for some old SHARE proceedings on
CD-ROM.

I have all the new proceedings the ones you can find at the share.org
web site.

Seattle - March, 2006 New! 
Boston - August, 2005 
Anaheim - February, 2005 
New York - August, 2004 
Long Beach - February, 2004 
Washington - August, 2003 
Dallas - February, 2003 
San Francisco - August, 2002 
Nashville - March, 2002 
Minneapolis - July, 2001 
Long Beach - February, 2001 
Boston - July, 2000 
Anaheim - March, 2000 
Chicago - August, 1999 
San Francisco - February, 1999 
Washington - August, 1998 

I also have some paper bits of older and interesting things and a few
older CD-ROMs with proceedings in AFP format.

82 Anaheim  Feb   1994
83 Boston   Aug   1994
84 LA   March 1994

If you have a SHARE proceedings CD-ROM I don't and would be willing to
part with it or send me a copy let me know OFF-LIST.  I can mail you a
current CBT CD in exchange or just an IOU for a brew of your choice
given a future opportunity to sit at the same bar.

http://www.cbttape.org/contact.htm

Best Regards, 

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Re: offensive language

2006-04-25 Thread Jon Brock
In the case you mention the word was not offensive, even to a Nice Nelly, but 
I could see where it could certainly trigger a spam filter. 

Jon



snip
It is hard to avoid giving offense to these filters, and I don't thinlk we 
should try to do so.   I recently found that I was not receiving emails from 
my travel agent; and after pushing text through the filter in question token 
by token I discovered that it was coughing at the token 'specialist'.  Why?  
If contains the offensive substring 'cialis'.
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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr.
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: Overhead of SMF Records
 
 
 I vaguly remember reading a paper (about 7 or 8 years ago) where 
 somebody turn off SMF recording and saw no measureable 
 difference in CPU 
   utilziation.   As other have said the overhead is in collecting 
 infromation needed to create the record and creating the 
 record.  Some 
 system will do everything needed to create the record, including 
 actually creating it and then pass to SMF.  If SMF is not 
 configured to 
 write it, it won't.  Some systems you can tell not to create SMF 
 records, but even those will still collect/track the 
 information needed, 
 they just don't create the record.
 

The only big overhead that I am aware of, and have experienced, is
with the DDCONS(YES) parameter. Always use DDCONS(NO)! I think that
DDCONS(YES) has something in it about efficient as a bubble sort of
100,000 records. Yuck!

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 2:42:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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wonder  how they measured it?




With an hour-glass?

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Re: DFSORT match problem

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Yaeger
Roberto R. wrote on 04/25/2006 05:56:22 AM:

 Hello, is it possible to do the following with DFSORT/ICETOOL:

 Input1:
 A1  X1
 A1  X2
 B1  X1
 B1  Y1

 Input2:
 X1  ABC
 X2  DEF
 Y1  GHI

 Expected output:
 A1  X1  ABC
 A1  X2  DEF
 B1  X1  ABC
 B1  Y1  GHI

 I believe it will require multiple scans of Input2. Hope it is clear
enough.
 Thanks.

You can use a DFSORT/ICETOOL job like the following.  I assumed your input
files have RECFM=FB and LRECL=80, but you can change the job appropriately
for other attributes.

//S1EXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG   DD SYSOUT=*
//DFSMSGDD SYSOUT=*
//IN2DD DSN=...  input file2
//T1 DD DSN=T1,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,5)),DISP=(,PASS)
//CON DD DSN=*.T1,VOL=REF=*.T1,DISP=(OLD,PASS)
//DD DSN=... input file1
//OUT DD DSN=... output file
//TOOLIN DD *
COPY FROM(IN2) TO(T1) USING(CTL1)
SPLICE FROM(CON) TO(OUT) ON(5,2,CH) WITHALL WITH(1,2)
/*
//CTL1CNTL DD *
  OUTREC FIELDS=(5:1,7,80:X)
/*

OUT will have:

A1  X1  ABC
B1  X1  ABC
A1  X2  DEF
B1  Y1  GHI

If you want the output sorted by field1 instead of by field2, you'll need
an additional SORT as follows:

//S2EXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG   DD SYSOUT=*
//DFSMSGDD SYSOUT=*
//IN2DD DSN=...  input file2
//T1 DD DSN=T1,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,5)),DISP=(,PASS)
//CON DD DSN=*.T1,VOL=REF=*.T1,DISP=(OLD,PASS)
//DD DSN=... input file1
//T2 DD DSN=T2,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(5,5)),DISP=(,PASS)
//OUT DD DSN=... output file
//TOOLIN DD *
COPY FROM(IN2) TO(T1) USING(CTL1)
SPLICE FROM(CON) TO(T2) ON(5,2,CH) WITHALL WITH(1,2)
SORT FROM(T2) TO(OUT) USING(CTL2)
/*
//CTL1CNTL DD *
  OUTREC FIELDS=(5:1,7,80:X)
/*
//CTL2CNTL DD *
  OPTION EQUALS
  SORT FIELDS=(1,2,CH,A)
/*

OUT will have:

A1  X1  ABC
A1  X2  DEF
B1  X1  ABC
B1  Y1  GHI

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Are you in a large shop now?

Approx 3600 MIPS.


How busy are your processors?   In our
shop (where we like to run all the processors close to 100% all day),

We try, but our business is cyclic.
 

putting SMF dumps at the bottom of the totem pole would never work. You have 
to be able to dump them faster than they fill up. 

We do. But, I am trying to get them to make all the man dsns the same size.
That will balance it better.

Actually, I haven't looked at where they are here.
Our service provider is doing an adequate job.
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Re: Tape channel program

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Tape channel program
 
 
 I am looking after samples of tape channel programs. And 
 would like to 
 know which commands among all 3490 commands are really used 
 by OS and/or 
 applications.
 More, I'll like to know the syntax of the Load Display 
 Mount CCW used by 
 MVS for tape mounting/unmounting.
 
 Denis

3490 manuals at:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/A02BK010

Load Display CCW explanation starts at:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/A02H1001/2.1.
12

MSGDISP macro explanation for displaying a message on a 3490 on z/OS

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2D520/2.2.
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IEF196I IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED

2006-04-25 Thread Robert Pelletier
We are getting the above message sporadically on our TEST LPAR. I have searched 
IBMLINK and had EMC check out the control unit and DASD. Might anyone know why 
we are getting this error on the master console:
IEF196I IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED 
IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED 598 
FOR AN ACTIVE REQUEST. THE ACTIVE REQUEST HAS BEEN TERMINATED.
QUEUED REQUESTS MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN TERMINATED.
IEF196I FOR AN ACTIVE REQUEST. THE ACTIVE REQUEST HAS BEEN
IEF196I TERMINATED. 

Thanks in advance.  

Have a NICE Day !!!

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Re: IEF196I IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED

2006-04-25 Thread Bruce Black


We are getting the above message sporadically on our TEST LPAR. I have searched 
IBMLINK and had EMC check out the control unit and DASD. Might anyone know why 
we are getting this error on the master console:
IEF196I IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED 
IOS078I 0921,78,XCFAS, I/O TIMEOUT INTERVAL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED 598 
FOR AN ACTIVE REQUEST. THE ACTIVE REQUEST HAS BEEN TERMINATED.
QUEUED REQUESTS MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN TERMINATED.
IEF196I FOR AN ACTIVE REQUEST. THE ACTIVE REQUEST HAS BEEN
IEF196I TERMINATED. 
Bob, check to see if you have other datasets on the same volume as the 
XCF datasets.  If any of them are subject to RESERVE or if there is 
allocation activity on the volume (that may need RESERVE on SYSVTOC or 
SYSZVVDS), this could explain the problem.   Such datasets should be 
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ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-25 Thread Porowski, Ken
Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE

OK, I've got a component trace of SYSOMVS and formatted via IPCS but
where are the trace entries documented/mapped?  I've been looking
through TFM but can't find it.

Thanks all

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Re: IEC614I CREATE FAILED - RC 192, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040343C9)

2006-04-25 Thread Glen Gasior
I am trying to move a dataset from what appears to be an SMS volume to what 
appears to be a non-SMS volume.
I get this message:
ADR440E (001)-RALLC(02), UNEXPECTED RETURN CODE FROM REALLOC MACRO: 
00C0, WHILE PROCESSING DATA SET DB2WK8.DB2WK1.SDSNEXIT 

I hope to bypass SMS just to allocate one dataset. Is it possible ?

 //DDII10   DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=DB2WK3  
 //DDOO10   DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=DB2WK1  
 //DDDUMMY  DD DUMMY  
 //SYSINDD *  
   COPY - 
   ADMIN- 
   DATASET(INCLUDE(DB2WK8.DB2WK1.SDSNEXIT)) - 
   IDD(DDII10)  - 
   ODD(DDOO10)  - 
   CATALOG  - 
   DELETE   - 
   REPLACE  - 
   NULLSTORCLAS - 
   BYPASSACS(**)  
 /*   

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SMP/E Internet Service Retrival

2006-04-25 Thread Alan C. Field
Has anyone got this working with Top Secret???

We got a cookbook from CA outlining the steps but so far we
haven't successfully managed to retrieve any service.

Infer what you want about our Top Secret admins. 

Alan

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WebSphere Developer for z/Series

2006-04-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

   We got  the new WebSphere Developer for z/Series with the C++ debug tool
We don't have currently WAS in the host, if some can tell me the minimum 
required software in the z/OS

to use  JES remote access and USS access

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LLA Exit One tracing

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Jacobs
How does one trace the execution of CSVLLIX1? LLA shows that the exit is
active, but when I attempt to trace via SLIP IF and GTFTRACE I don't get
any records in by trace dataset.

 

SLIP command is; SLIP SET,IF,ACTION=TRACE,PVTMOD=(CSVLLIX1,00,19A),END

 

And GTFTRACE is simple TRACE=SLIP

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

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Re: enterprise tape system 3590

2006-04-25 Thread FRANKO DSOUZA

HI EVERYONE,

WE HAVE AN ATL 3590, AND ARE USING 3590 AND 3592 DRIVES,WITH 60 GB AND 300 
GB CARTRIDGES TO BACKUP OUR DATA, IS THERE ANY SUITABLE PROGRAM TO STACK 
DATA ON THESE CARTRIDGES AND ALSO USE THESE CARTRIDGES TO THEIR OPTIMUM 
LEVEL, MEAN USE THEM 100%

ANY HELP SUGGESTIONS WILL BE APPRECIATED

THANKS
FRANCO

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Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Hal Merritt
Did I read somewhere that z/os 1.7 or perhaps one of the new boxes
support adding LPAR's without a POR?

 

The business mission is a kilo boat load of Linux images, not real z/os
images.  My knee jerk plan is to shrink a z/os image, and redistribute
the resources across a large number of small Linux images. 

 

Or was that just a nice dream? 

 

Be gentle; I am just learning how to spell IFL ;-)

 

Thanks!!

 


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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Jacobs
You really don't want to build multiple lpars for the Linux images. You
really should run these images under VM. IBM has special VM pricing for
VM under an IFL.

Mark Jacobs
Time Customer Service Inc.

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Did I read somewhere that z/os 1.7 or perhaps one of the new boxes
support adding LPAR's without a POR?

 

The business mission is a kilo boat load of Linux images, not real z/os
images.  My knee jerk plan is to shrink a z/os image, and redistribute
the resources across a large number of small Linux images. 

 

Or was that just a nice dream? 

 

Be gentle; I am just learning how to spell IFL ;-)

 

Thanks!!

 


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Re: enterprise tape system 3590

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: enterprise tape system 3590
 
 
 HI EVERYONE,
 
 WE HAVE AN ATL 3590, AND ARE USING 3590 AND 3592 DRIVES,WITH 
 60 GB AND 300 
 GB CARTRIDGES TO BACKUP OUR DATA, IS THERE ANY SUITABLE 
 PROGRAM TO STACK 
 DATA ON THESE CARTRIDGES AND ALSO USE THESE CARTRIDGES TO 
 THEIR OPTIMUM 
 LEVEL, MEAN USE THEM 100%
 ANY HELP SUGGESTIONS WILL BE APPRECIATED
 
 THANKS
 FRANCO

We use a couple of OpenTech products. VDR will make copies of tape files
(in our case, in our VTS) and stack intelligently on 3592 carts up to
the % used that you want. DBS creates DFDSS or FDR jobs which also try
to stack disk volume backups onto 3592 carts (up to the percent used
that you specify). At disaster, you recover from the DFDSS/FDR backup
tapes, created by the jobs created by DBS. DBS has a post-dump process
whereby it creates the restore JCL for you as well. The restore JCL has
the GV00 of the tape as well as the volser and file sequence number.
So you're not dependant on your z/OS catalog for restoration. But you do
need to dump the volume upon which the JCL resides after the
post-process is done. We do this by making sure that the volume upon
which the JCL resides is always the last file on the last tape in the
DBS dump process. We then redump the volume using a zero-gen and
overwriting the previous contents. This works so long as the dump file
remains the last file on the tape.

VDR can be used by keeping its tapes (remember they are just copies, not
originals) off-site. At D.R., VDR can recatalog the copy of the datasets
to be on its volumes (while updating CA-1 and/or RMM's tape catalog). It
can also be used to load the tape data into a VTS at D.R. (we do this),
and recataloguing the datasets onto the new VTS volumes (again updating
the CA-1 or RMM tape catalog).

Another possibility is DFHSM and the TMM (Tape Mount Management)
philosophy wherein you redirect tape datasets onto a select storage
group, then aggressively manage the volumes in that storage group (via
the management class on the TMM datasets). DFHSM will also intelligently
use the 3592 cart (although it isn't really stacking as I think of it).
You will need to use DFHSM duplexing for an off-site copy.

A third possibility is to use CA-VTAPE. This product implements a
virtual tape system where the data is kept on z/OS dasd (as opposed to
non z/OS DASD with a normal VTS type system). This product will use 3590
and 3592 devices for backstore. It can also duplex its backstore tapes
so that one set is kept off-site. When you go to a disaster test (or
real disaster), the duplex backstore tapes are used to retrieve the
virtual tape volumes. In my opinion, this solution has two drawbacks:
(1) it uses z/OS DASD, which is generally more expensive that Open
System DASD on a per megabyte and (2) it uses z/OS CPU cycles. However,
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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Alan C. Field
I agree with Mark, but I think you are referring to reserved lpars - I 
thing you have to
do a POR at least once to define them. 

I tried to make a couple of ours that we no longer used reserved but it 
meant taking
all the channel definitions away which seemed like a lot of work only to 
have to
put them back later so I didn't. Left the old definitions with minimal 
memory and
don't activate them. 




Did I read somewhere that z/os 1.7 or perhaps one of the new boxes
support adding LPAR's without a POR?

 

The business mission is a kilo boat load of Linux images, not real z/os
images.  My knee jerk plan is to shrink a z/os image, and redistribute
the resources across a large number of small Linux images. 

 

Or was that just a nice dream? 


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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Adding LPARs without POR
 
 Did I read somewhere that z/os 1.7 or perhaps one of the new boxes
 support adding LPAR's without a POR?
 
 The business mission is a kilo boat load of Linux images, not 
 real z/os
 images.  My knee jerk plan is to shrink a z/os image, and redistribute
 the resources across a large number of small Linux images. 
 
 Or was that just a nice dream? 
 
 Be gentle; I am just learning how to spell IFL ;-)
 
 Thanks!!

IMO, using LPARs for Linux is not a wise decision. z/VM is the only real
way to manage a boat load of images. z/VM manages better than PR/SM,
again IMO.

However, to answer your question, I vaguely remember that you can add an
LPAR on the fly with the newest z9 systems. But I cannot find anything
to back up the memory.

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Neubert, Kevin (DIS)
I believe what you're referring to, adding LPARs dynamically, began with
the z890/z990 and z/OS 1.6.

Regards,

Kevin

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Did I read somewhere that z/os 1.7 or perhaps one of the new boxes
support adding LPAR's without a POR?

 

The business mission is a kilo boat load of Linux images, not real z/os
images.  My knee jerk plan is to shrink a z/os image, and redistribute
the resources across a large number of small Linux images. 

 

Or was that just a nice dream? 

 

Be gentle; I am just learning how to spell IFL ;-)

 

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Re: enterprise tape system 3590

2006-04-25 Thread Knutson, Sam
You can search the IBM-MAIN Archives one useful post there are many more

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9602L=ibm-mainP=R2I=1X=2A9667288
DCA53C9E4


Google tape stacking z/OS yields lots of hits..  Combine both and you
have a nice list to start and I expect you are about to be swarmed by
some of the sales folk with products named and unnamed that might help. 

TapeSaver
http://www.unicomsi.com/solutions/ProdDetail.asp?item_id=137

ZELA
http://www.seasoft.com/zela.asp

Rocket Tape Optimizer for z/OS
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/portfolio/tapemedia/

BrightStor CA-1 Tape Management Copycat Utility
http://www3.ca.com/solutions/ProductOption.aspx?ID=1016

TelTape
http://www.cartagena.com/products/index.html

FATS/FATAR
http://www.fdr.com/products/fatsfatar/ff03.cfm


Finally if you use or purchase a Virtual Tape system hardware or
software it can fill tapes to capacity while presenting many virtual
volumes to the host OS.

BrightStor CA-Vtape Virtual Tape System
http://www3.ca.com/solutions/Product.aspx?ID=1599

IBM VTS
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/tape/index.html

STK VTS
http://www.stortek.com/

There are even more esoteric answers that don't quite fit the
traditional picture of VTS like ExHPDM to stream multiple writers onto
single tapes

http://www.storagetek.com/products/product_page2442.html

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
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HI EVERYONE,

WE HAVE AN ATL 3590, AND ARE USING 3590 AND 3592 DRIVES,WITH 60 GB AND
300 GB CARTRIDGES TO BACKUP OUR DATA, IS THERE ANY SUITABLE PROGRAM TO
STACK DATA ON THESE CARTRIDGES AND ALSO USE THESE CARTRIDGES TO THEIR
OPTIMUM LEVEL, MEAN USE THEM 100% ANY HELP SUGGESTIONS WILL BE
APPRECIATED

THANKS
FRANCO

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SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
I want to pick up all needed service to do an apply check for a DT/2107 
(DS8000).
   
  What options do I need it the smpe jcl stream.   
   
  Is this considered a function.
   
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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Jousma, David
Howard, 

You need to logon to IBMLINK, and go look at PSP at 2107device.  This
will list all required maintenance for this box.  You will then need to
order, and apply those fixes.  To answer your question, no, it is not a
function.

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I want to pick up all needed service to do an apply check for a DT/2107
(DS8000).
   
  What options do I need it the smpe jcl stream.   
   
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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thank David.
   
  I've aleady done this...got cum tapes, RSU tapes.etc.  I think IBM is giving 
me the run around on this one.
   
  I'll check back with them.
   
  Problem is I need all service relaive to all the software on my machine and I 
some how can't seem to get that.  During the apply there are still a whole 
bunch of missing sysmods.
   
  Thanks.

Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howard, 

You need to logon to IBMLINK, and go look at PSP at 2107device. This
will list all required maintenance for this box. You will then need to
order, and apply those fixes. To answer your question, no, it is not a
function.

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I want to pick up all needed service to do an apply check for a DT/2107
(DS8000).

What options do I need it the smpe jcl stream. 

Is this considered a function.

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Neubert, Kevin (DIS) wrote:

I believe what you're referring to, adding LPARs dynamically, began with
the z890/z990 and z/OS 1.6.
  


Right software, right hardware, wrong function! The enhancement was not 
to allow *adding* LPARs dynamically, the function was to allow 
*renaming* LPARs dynamically. You can now set up some dummy LPARs and 
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Re: WebSphere Developer for z/Series

2006-04-25 Thread Hunter Cobb
Check your program directories for details, but you probably want to install
FMID H002600 for JES remote access, and FMID H001600 for Remote System
Explorer, for z/OS data set and USS file access. For COBOL, PL/I, Assembler,
and EGL support, you'll want FMID HEDS500. Also check out the Websphere
Developer for zSeries Host Configuration Guide (SC31-6930).

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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Jousma, David
Howard, 

OK, so you have all your maintenance.  Good, make sure it is all
received.  Now, go to IBMLINK, and pull the PSP bucket( term for a
document that lists required maintenance) for that device type.  In it,
it will have a list of all the required PTF's for that hardware.  Take
that list, and build your SMPE apply(check) with that list.  Set it for
GROUPEXTEND(YES), this should pick up the missing sysmods(assuming they
were ordered) and see what happens.  The PSP bucket is the 'bible' so to
speak for anything related to that device. Regarding service for all
your software, you can run a SMPE maintenance utility that will create a
binary file of all your products/maintenance, and upload that to the
ShopZseries site.  Once done, then you can order all maintenance for all
products based on your current environment.

-or- 

Take the scatter gun effect, and apply all the maintenance you received
and hope that you have ordered everything you needed.

If it were me, I'd take the first route.

Dave



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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: SMPE Apply Question.

Thank David.
   
  I've aleady done this...got cum tapes, RSU tapes.etc.  I think IBM is
giving me the run around on this one.
   
  I'll check back with them.
   
  Problem is I need all service relaive to all the software on my
machine and I some how can't seem to get that.  During the apply there
are still a whole bunch of missing sysmods.
   
  Thanks.




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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Hal Merritt
Well, I guess that will have to do. 

Any SWAG's on the MSU cost of an inactive IFL LPAR? I have four active
and one inactive now, all z/os. There are guesstimates of perhaps 3 or 4
hundred Linux images. 

I know, I know. But management needs numbers, not emotions. In addition,
there are audit pressures to put each application instance on its own
server. 

Thanks. 

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Neubert, Kevin (DIS) wrote:
 I believe what you're referring to, adding LPARs dynamically, began
with
 the z890/z990 and z/OS 1.6.
   

Right software, right hardware, wrong function! The enhancement was not 
to allow *adding* LPARs dynamically, the function was to allow 
*renaming* LPARs dynamically. You can now set up some dummy LPARs and 
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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
The modern way to do this with minimal effort is by using the PSP
tool.  

Enhanced Preventive Service Planning tool web site:   
http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/390/psp_main.html 

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:42:35 -0700, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Thank David.

  I've aleady done this...got cum tapes, RSU tapes.etc.  I think IBM is 
giving me the run around on this one.

  I'll check back with them.

  Problem is I need all service relaive to all the software on my machine 
and I some how can't seem to get that.  During the apply there are still a 
whole bunch of missing sysmods.

  Thanks.

Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howard,

You need to logon to IBMLINK, and go look at PSP at 2107device. This
will list all required maintenance for this box. You will then need to
order, and apply those fixes. To answer your question, no, it is not a
function.

Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMPE Apply Question.

I want to pick up all needed service to do an apply check for a DT/2107
(DS8000).

What options do I need it the smpe jcl stream.

Is this considered a function.

Thanks.


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WebSphere Developer vs. ISPF

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
Is there some document which does a compare and contrast between
WebSphere Developer and ISPF? Is is possible to totally replace ISPF
with WebSphere Developer? I mean for programmers. I realize that there
are ISPF applications which are not accessable via WebSphere Developer
at this time (such as a CA-1 interface, CA-7 interface, perhaps others).
Can WebSphere Developer, or an add-on or ??, be positioned as an
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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Well, I guess that will have to do. 
 
 Any SWAG's on the MSU cost of an inactive IFL LPAR? I have four active
 and one inactive now, all z/os. There are guesstimates of 
 perhaps 3 or 4
 hundred Linux images. 
 
 I know, I know. But management needs numbers, not emotions. 
 In addition,
 there are audit pressures to put each application instance on its own
 server. 
 
 Thanks. 

Huh? There is no MSU cost for an IFL LPAR. IFLs do not count towards
your z/OS software cost at all. If an LPAR is DEACTIVATED, then it has
no cost at all. It does not take up CPU cycles (PR/SM ignores it) and
it does not have any memory assigned to it. Just a few bytes in the HSA
to define it. Very minimal. Or am I off in left field again?

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:49:33 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Neubert, Kevin (DIS) wrote:
 I believe what you're referring to, adding LPARs dynamically, began with
 the z890/z990 and z/OS 1.6.


Right software, right hardware, wrong function! The enhancement was not
to allow *adding* LPARs dynamically, the function was to allow
*renaming* LPARs dynamically. You can now set up some dummy LPARs and
rename them concurrently when needed.


Technically you are correct (big surprise :-) ).  However, I think it is
semantics.  I have seen the function documented and spoken as dynamically 
adding a partition by IBM.

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Re: SMP/E Internet Service Retrival

2006-04-25 Thread Larre Shiller
Alan -

We have just started to invstigate the use of SMP/E Internet Service 
Retrieval and we also use Top Secret.  Now you have me scared!  Exactly 
what is it that is failing?  Can you share any messages?  What is the name 
of the CA cookbook and why is a cookbook necessary?  Isn't SMP/E Internet 
Service Retrieval just a sort of FTP implementation??

Larre

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Has anyone got this working with Top Secret???

We got a cookbook from CA outlining the steps but so far we
haven't successfully managed to retrieve any service.

Infer what you want about our Top Secret admins.

Alan

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:16:28 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:

There are guesstimates of perhaps 3 or 4 hundred Linux images.
...
In addition, there are audit pressures to put each application instance 
on its own server.
 
Okay there's your problem: You CANNOT have anywhere near 3 or 4 HUNDRED 
LPARs on any given single box.  You need to virtualize your proposal.   

You need to be thinking z/VM.  While the server in that case would be 
virtual it should be real enough to pass any audit.  (It can pass a DoD 
government audit, as a recent example indicates.)  
 
z/VM doesn't have issues with multiple Linux instances and it can scale up 
(or down) very quickly.  Ideal for what you seem to be looking at.  
You only need one (or perhaps two, for a test z/VM) LPARs to get the 
concept up off of the ground and running smoothly.  
 
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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Thomas Kern
And you should definately join the IBMVM and Linux-390 lists.

http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=ibmvm
http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-VM

/Tom Kern

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:35:25 -0500, Tom Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:16:28 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:
There are guesstimates of perhaps 3 or 4 hundred Linux images.
In addition, there are audit pressures to put each application instance
on its own server.

Okay there's your problem: You CANNOT have anywhere near 3 or 4 HUNDRED
LPARs on any given single box.  You need to virtualize your proposal.

You need to be thinking z/VM.  While the server in that case would be
virtual it should be real enough to pass any audit.  (It can pass a DoD
government audit, as a recent example indicates.)

z/VM doesn't have issues with multiple Linux instances and it can scale up
(or down) very quickly.  Ideal for what you seem to be looking at.
You only need one (or perhaps two, for a test z/VM) LPARs to get the
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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind
 
 Thank David.

   I've aleady done this...got cum tapes, RSU tapes.etc.  I 
 think IBM is giving me the run around on this one.

   I'll check back with them.

   Problem is I need all service relaive to all the software 
 on my machine and I some how can't seem to get that.  During 
 the apply there are still a whole bunch of missing sysmods.

Do you specify GROUPEXTEND in your MCS?

-jc-

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Hal Merritt
Well, sometimes left field is a good place to be. It all depends ;-)

I once recall a 'cost' of a few percent of the box in hypervisor
overhead for a defined LPAR, active or not. IIRC, the ROT was 2-5%. And
I am talking several hundred active LPARs. 

I can believe things have changed. I can believe I have forgotten
something. I can believe I was wrong. I am a little doubtful that the
cost of a free lunch is changed, however :-)

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Huh? There is no MSU cost for an IFL LPAR. IFLs do not count towards
your z/OS software cost at all. If an LPAR is DEACTIVATED, then it has
no cost at all. It does not take up CPU cycles (PR/SM ignores it) and
it does not have any memory assigned to it. Just a few bytes in the HSA
to define it. Very minimal. Or am I off in left field again?

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Re: SMPE Apply Question.

2006-04-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Dave,
   
  Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howard, 

OK, so you have all your maintenance. Good, make sure it is all
received. Now, go to IBMLINK, and pull the PSP bucket( term for a
document that lists required maintenance) for that device type. In it,
it will have a list of all the required PTF's for that hardware. Take
that list, and build your SMPE apply(check) with that list. Set it for
GROUPEXTEND(YES), this should pick up the missing sysmods(assuming they
were ordered) and see what happens. The PSP bucket is the 'bible' so to
speak for anything related to that device. Regarding service for all
your software, you can run a SMPE maintenance utility that will create a
binary file of all your products/maintenance, and upload that to the
ShopZseries site. Once done, then you can order all maintenance for all
products based on your current environment.

-or- 

Take the scatter gun effect, and apply all the maintenance you received
and hope that you have ordered everything you needed.

If it were me, I'd take the first route.

Dave



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
616.653.8429


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Subject: Re: SMPE Apply Question.

Thank David.

I've aleady done this...got cum tapes, RSU tapes.etc. I think IBM is
giving me the run around on this one.

I'll check back with them.

Problem is I need all service relaive to all the software on my
machine and I some how can't seem to get that. During the apply there
are still a whole bunch of missing sysmods.

Thanks.




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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Hal Merritt
I knew I was asking the right people.  I get good quality answers even
when I ask poor questions.   

Thanks!!

Hal. 

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:16:28 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:

There are guesstimates of perhaps 3 or 4 hundred Linux images.
...
In addition, there are audit pressures to put each application instance

on its own server.
 
Okay there's your problem: You CANNOT have anywhere near 3 or 4 HUNDRED 
LPARs on any given single box.  You need to virtualize your proposal.   

You need to be thinking z/VM.  While the server in that case would be 
virtual it should be real enough to pass any audit.  (It can pass a
DoD 
government audit, as a recent example indicates.)  
 
z/VM doesn't have issues with multiple Linux instances and it can scale
up 
(or down) very quickly.  Ideal for what you seem to be looking at.  
You only need one (or perhaps two, for a test z/VM) LPARs to get the 
concept up off of the ground and running smoothly.  
 
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Re: WebSphere Developer vs. ISPF

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Comstock

McKown, John wrote:

Is there some document which does a compare and contrast between
WebSphere Developer and ISPF? Is is possible to totally replace ISPF
with WebSphere Developer? I mean for programmers. I realize that there
are ISPF applications which are not accessable via WebSphere Developer
at this time (such as a CA-1 interface, CA-7 interface, perhaps others).
Can WebSphere Developer, or an add-on or ??, be positioned as an
eventual replacement for ISPF entirely? Just curious.



John,

Well, I don't know of such a document, but having completed
an introductory course in the product (at the request of
IBM) I'm reasonably aware of how the product shapes up against
ISPF.

First, it is not a total replacement - in a sense. That is,
there are things you cannot do using the WD/z main interface,
such as run ISPF dialogs. That being said, the product does
include a TN3270 emulator, so you can connect to ISPF in one
pane of all the windows available under the WD/z image. You
can actually be logged on to two sessions then (one is a
true TSO/ISPF session, the other is an APPC session).

Second, you can do many things you do under ISPF under
WD/z and some things you can actually do better (I like
having multiple windows open on a single file, for example).

Although you can get compilers for COBOL and PL/I for
the workstation (re-vamps of the Visual Age products,
I'm sure), the WD/z people don't promote using the
product just for that purpose. In fact, all my early
work was focused on using the product to do the standard
ISPF type work I normally do: so I would edit on the
workstation but compile and test on the mainframe.

Third, it is a great tool for developing applications
looking to the newer directions, since it is built on
Eclipse and RAD, you can do UML, Java, EJB, Web Services,
and so on, all from this single interface.

So I think of it as a tool to complement and ultimately
replace ISPF and as one that provides a single platform
for classic development and Web / Internet development.

For information on our class:
http://www.trainersfriend.com/UNIX_and_Web_courses/w510descr.htm

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

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Re: LLA Exit One tracing

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/25/2006 
12:47:41 PM:

 How does one trace the execution of CSVLLIX1? LLA shows that the exit is
 active, but when I attempt to trace via SLIP IF and GTFTRACE I don't get
 any records in by trace dataset.
 
 SLIP command is; SLIP SET,IF,ACTION=TRACE,PVTMOD=(CSVLLIX1,00,19A),END
 
 And GTFTRACE is simple TRACE=SLIP
 
 What am I doing wrong?

  Try adding J=LLA to the SLIP command. 

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Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?

2006-04-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Richard Tsujimoto wrote:
You could simply code the DCB with DSORG, and at run-time, reinitialize 
the DSORG field.  Why would you want to hand-craft a control block?


Who said I wanted to do so?  Shmuel asked what would happen if a DCB had 
a zero DSORG. Binyamin pointed out that the DCB MACRO requires both a 
MACRF and DSORG, which is true, but not relevant to Shmuel's statement. 
I pointed out that DCBs and other control blocks can be constructed the 
hard way.


As to why anyone would want to do so, I can think of a few scenarios, 
usually involving software written for an environment different from 
that in which it executes. For example, I have a software package that 
uses BTAM on systems licensed for it, but not having it myself, I can't 
assemble the macros, and need work arounds.


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In addition, there are audit pressures to put each application instance on its 
own server.

With z/VM and IFL's, you can do just that.
But, does your auditor consider each virtual instance a new server?

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/25/2006 
09:24:37 AM:
 
  IBM has some  undocumented monitor call 
 instructions inside the I/O first level interrupt  handler for 
 instrumentation 
 purposes.  Maybe they also have some way to  measure the overhead of
 building an 
 SMF record.  And maybe they can  report on it some day if they do. 
 There is no 
 way we can find out.   The only part of the overhead we can measure is 
that 
 belonging to the SMF  writing service in the SMF address space, and 
that's a 
 small part of the  total.

  The undocumented montitor call instructions (generated by the 
COUNT macro, and in many places besides the I/O FLIH) are for the 
purpose of determining the frequency of some events.  They do not assist
in determining duration or CPU consumption.

  IBM does not, to my knowledge, have any way to measure the cost of
building SMF records. 

  Some components/products may check to see whether a particular
record type is being recorded before incurring the cost to build it.
Here is an example from IEFTB721:

  RFY (REG15) RSTD; /*@G742PJW*/
   /* CHECK IF RECORD TYPE 30 IS BEING 
   COLLECTED  @G742PJW*/
  GEN REFS(SMCAMACR,SMCABASE); /* @G742PJW*/
  SMFRTEST RECTYPE=30 @G742PJW 
@ENDGEN;/*@G742PJW*/
  IF REG15=RECGATH THEN /*IF TYPE 30 IS COLLECTED @G742PJW*/
DO;  /* BEGIN - TYPE 30 collected @G742PJW*/
 RFY (REG1) UNRSTD; /*@ZA43580*/
 CALL IEFSMF30(LCTPTR,SWBLKPTR(JOBACT)-IEFAACTB); /* CALL 
 ROUTINE TO BUILD DUMMY PROTOTYPE 
 RECORDS  @G742PJW*/
 /* FILL IN STEP ACCT FIELDS 
  @G742PJW*/

 I do not know if use of this technique is pervasive 
within IBM products. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread R.S.

McKown, John wrote:
[...]

IMO, using LPARs for Linux is not a wise decision. z/VM is the only real
way to manage a boat load of images. z/VM manages better than PR/SM,
again IMO.


Why ?
IMHO it *depends*. Is it so common to run few z/OS LPARs and hundreds 
Linux images ? I know datacenters running several LPARs (monoplexes, 
completely separated systems), *few* Linux images  ...and bunch of 
Windows serversg
One of the datacenters is using Linux under IFL. 2-4 images. Is it 
really cost effective to buy z/VM for this poor z/800 machine ?

Is it really needed at all ?

Just my $0.02
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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 Why ?
 IMHO it *depends*. Is it so common to run few z/OS LPARs and hundreds 
 Linux images ? I know datacenters running several LPARs (monoplexes, 
 completely separated systems), *few* Linux images  ...and bunch of 
 Windows serversg
 One of the datacenters is using Linux under IFL. 2-4 images. Is it 
 really cost effective to buy z/VM for this poor z/800 machine ?
 Is it really needed at all ?
 
 Just my $0.02
 -- 
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I do agree that the configuration should be based on the need of the
company. I guess that I was speaking generically without stating some of
my assumptions.

In the case of a very few LPARs (less than 5 or 6?), then z/VM is likely
to be overkill. But I think that the original person was indicating that
they were going to have a LOT of Linux images, not just a few. For me,
in most cases, I would likely suggest doing z/OS in LPARs (since PR/SM
is free (gratis/bundled) and z/VM costs more per CPU to license on a
general CPU than on an IFL (IIRC)). I would assign all the IFLs to a
single LPAR running z/VM. Again, most cases I envision would likely have
a fair number of Linux images running due to the one function, one
image that seems to be in vogue with even Linux people. There is even
a push to have multiple z/OS LPARs here to separate activity for
better control. bronx cheer

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Hal Merritt wrote:

Any SWAG's on the MSU cost of an inactive IFL LPAR?


Zero.

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Re: ISFPARMS conversion to using SDSF server

2006-04-25 Thread Bob Rutledge

Mautalen Juan Guillermo wrote:


I have been reading SDSF books, and i still have some BIG doubts.

1) This is unrelated to the migration itself, but i wonder where does
SDSF run. I do not see any adress space related to SDSF...does it run in
each user adress space?


The server runs in its own address space.  See 2).


2) To use ISFPARMS with STATEMENTS, you need to start an SDSF SERVER.
Where is the sample JCL to start such adress space?


ISF.SISFJCL(SDSF) has the sample server address space JCL.  You're responsible 
for starting it (e.g. COMMNDxx or automation tool).



3) Where do you indicate that you will begin using SDSF SERVER instead
of the load module?


You don't.  When your users enter SDSF, it looks to see if a server is running 
and if so, uses it to classify the userid.  (You might want to keep some manner 
of the load module around against the chance that the SDSF server isn't running 
for some reason.)



4) There is an utility that generate ISFPARMS statements, using as input
your current ISFPARMS. It is unclear to me whether the INPUT should be
the source, or the load module.


Source.


5) In any case, i assume that the utility just generates the equivalent
ISFPARMS STATEMENTS, but without making any real change. Is this right?


Yes.

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RMM Restore CDS

2006-04-25 Thread Hjelm, Norm
In compliance with our current Disaster Recovery procedures, I've been
able to use the following JCL to backup the RMM CDS and Journal files
directly to tape as the last step in a larger JCL stream that backups up
all of our essential catalog files and such.  Now I'm in need of JCL to
restore the files from the afore mentioned tape.  I'd like to test this
by restoring the CDS and Journal files to a new name so that I don't
overwrite the existing PROD files.  I've looked over the manuals but
have yet to find exactly what I'm looking for.  Any help or suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

//EXPO11   EXEC PGM=EDGHSKP, 
// PARM='BACKUP(DSS)',   
// REGION=0M 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*  
//BACKUP   DD  DSN=CATALOG.DRCAT.RMMCAT.D?SYSDATE.T?SYSTIME, 
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG), 
// DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32404,BLKSIZE=18452),
// LABEL=(14,SL),
// VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP1.O),  
// UNIT=CART 
//JRNLBKUP DD  DSN=CATALOG.DRCAT.RMMJRNL.D?SYSDATE.T?SYSTIME,
// DISP=(NEW,CATLG), 
// DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32404,BLKSIZE=18452),
// LABEL=(15,SL),
// VOL=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP1.O),  
// UNIT=CART 
//MESSAGE  DD  DSN=SOFT.RMM.HOUSEKP.MESSAGE(0),DISP=(SHR)

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
One of the datacenters is using Linux under IFL. 2-4 images. Is it really cost 
effective to buy z/VM for this poor z/800 machine ? Is it really needed at all 
?

I think it is.

4 images isn't worth $125,000 USD for an IFL.
I don't think you can drive the IFL very high with just that few.


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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
 Any SWAG's on the MSU cost of an inactive IFL LPAR?

The specialty engines cost $125K USD each; there are no software costs, yet.

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Roy Hewitt

Ted MacNEIL wrote:

One of the datacenters is using Linux under IFL. 2-4 images. Is it really cost 
effective to buy z/VM for this poor z/800 machine ? Is it really needed at all ?


I think it is.

4 images isn't worth $125,000 USD for an IFL.


How do you work that out? Surely the number of Linux images is 
irrelevant, the only real purpose of an IFL is to reduce SW costs when 
you have other LPARS with z/OS etc...



I don't think you can drive the IFL very high with just that few.


Are you sure? That implies that a singe Linux LPAR cannot max out an IFL.

Regards

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Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-04-25 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Has any one put on the PTFs?  Any experience good or bad with their use?

Don Imbriale

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The 'SEARCH ALL' APARs PK15432 and PK16765 have closed with PTFs
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Re: PDSEs in LNKLST at IPL can't be deleted

2006-04-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Peter Relson of z/OS Core Technology Design wrote:

 No (IBM-owned) system code uses CVTLINK or its DCB/DEB 
 directly. When the system sees CVTLINK it translates 
 CVTLINK into ASSBDLCB - DLCBDCB@ .
 Code stll running with the IPL-time LNKLST will of course 
 access the original DEB when using the DLCBDCB@ path.
 .
 After a LNKLST UPDATE JOB(*) to a new LNKLST there won't be 
 any such code (aside from the unpredictably dangerous window 
 conditions).
 
 There could still be vendor or customer code that traverses 
 the DCB/DEB path from CVTLINK. It is for this reason that we 
 commit never to free the DCB/DEB of the IPL-time LNKLST.

I may misunderstand what you are saying... What is the correct way to load a
LNKLST module into a storage location of one's own choosing using ADDR= on
the LOAD macro? LOAD with ADDR= requires a non-zero DCB=, so I have been
using the CVTLINK DCB, but I'm presumably missing updates. I want the same
behavious I would get with a LOAD without DCB=, which I understand would the
LNKLST current when my job started. (Why, in passing, does ADDR= require
DCB= on LOAD?)

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Re: DFSORT and delimited fileds

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Yaeger
On  Jan 17, 2005 Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

I have the following record layout:
First_name; Last_name; text_data; year.

The fields are variable in length, the record format VB. In fact the
data are imported from PC world.

I want to sort them by lastname, then by firstname.

Is it possible to use DFSORT here ?

It is now with z/OS DFSORT V1R5 PTF UK90007 or DFSORT R14 PTF UK90006
(April, 2006).  Here's an example.

Let's assume the VB input records look like this:

RDW|Data
29 |Frank; Yaeger; abc; 2006.
37 |Radoslaw; Skorupka; cdefgh; 2006.
32 |Martin; Packer; ijklm; 2005.

We can use the following DFSORT job to extract the delimited fields into
fixed parsed fields, sort on them in the correct order, and remove them.

//S1EXEC  PGM=ICEMAN
//SYSOUTDD  SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD DSN=...  input file (VB)
//SORTOUT DD DSN=... output file (VB)
//SYSINDD*
* Extract first from position 5 to before ; into %00 (16 bytes).
* Extract last from after ; to before next ; into %01 (16 bytes).
  INREC PARSE=(%00=(ENDBEFR=C';',FIXLEN=16),
   %01=(ENDBEFR=C';',FIXLEN=16)),
* Build temp. record as:
* |RDW|%01|%00|data|
BUILD=(1,4,5:%01,21:%00,37:5)
* Sort on %01 and %00.
  SORT FIELDS=(5,32,CH,A)
* Remove %01 and %00.
  OUTREC BUILD=(1,4,37)
/*

SORTOUT will have the following VB records:

RDW|Data
32 |Martin; Packer; ijklm; 2005.
37 |Radoslaw; Skorupka; cdefgh; 2006.
29 |Frank; Yaeger; abc; 2006.

Note that you can also use Symbols for %00 and %01 to show what they
represent.  For example:

//S2EXEC  PGM=ICEMAN
//SYSOUTDD  SYSOUT=*
//SYMNAMES DD *
* Parsed fields
First,%00
Last,%01
* Original record
RDW,1,4
Data,*
* Temp record
Tmp_RDW,1,4
Tmp_Last,*,16,CH
Tmp_First,*,16,CH
Tmp_Data,*
/*
//SORTIN DD DSN=...  input file (VB)
//SORTOUT DD DSN=... output file (VB)
//SYSINDD*
* Extract first from position 5 to before ; into First (16 bytes).
* Extract last from after ; to before next ; into Last (16 bytes).
  INREC PARSE=(First=(ENDBEFR=C';',FIXLEN=16),
   Last=(ENDBEFR=C';',FIXLEN=16)),
* Build temp. record as:
* |RDW|Last|First|Data|
BUILD=(RDW,Last,First,Data)
* Sort on Last and First.
  SORT FIELDS=(Tmp_Last,A,Tmp_First,A)
* Remove Last and First.
  OUTREC BUILD=(RDW,Tmp_Data)
/*

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 Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Norman Hollander
For what it's worth, and I'm sure this can start a great debate, I allow the
SMF 
processes to take what they need to get in, finish what they need to, and
get out.
I have seen customer sites move SMF out of SYSTEM, and have MANx Dumps run
at lower importance.  I generally recommend giving it all the Buffers,
Storage,
Horsepower needed to get done quickly.  You will have a much bigger headache
if
you are missing any data. That is one path you will want to avoid, if at all
possible.

Now, if there are records that you don't process or do anything with, I
would recommend
turning those off.  Example, do you do anything with the Temporary Data Set
records?
On the backend of the process, look at your Record Retention processes.  Not
all SMF
records need to be kept forever (or even more than, say, 90 days). Your
mileage will
vary.  And remember that there are some that need to be kept forever (that
is, at
least 10 years).  Think AUDIT (that feared term). 

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Re: PDSEs in LNKLST at IPL can't be deleted

2006-04-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Tony Harminc wrote:

I may misunderstand what you are saying... What is the correct way to load a
LNKLST module into a storage location of one's own choosing using ADDR= on
the LOAD macro? LOAD with ADDR= requires a non-zero DCB=, so I have been
using the CVTLINK DCB, but I'm presumably missing updates.


As long as you're not _traversing_ the CVTLINK DCB/DEB chain in your 
code, you're fine! If you're _referring_ to the CVTLINK DCB on contents 
supervisor services, you're doing exactly the right thing.


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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/25/2006 
11:30:56 AM:

 
 We are not quite at the level of kill the system rather than run without
 an SMF audit trail (wait state D0D) but we address any SMF data loss
 with steps taken to prevent it from recurring.

  I had never noticed which wait state code which had been assigned
to SMFPRMxx NOBUFFS(HALT) and LASTDS(HALT) functions.  I guess some IBM 
developers have a sense of humor after all.

  (This function was added as part of the B1 Security stuff in
SP3.1.3, driven by Department of Defense requirements). 

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Re: Tape channel program

2006-04-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Denis Metivier wrote:

 More, I'll like to know the syntax of the Load Display 
 Mount CCW used by MVS for tape mounting/unmounting.

This code's for CMS, but it's short and simple to read.

http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/read?fn=PANL3480ft=NOTEline=1

http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/read?fn=SPOT3480ft=NOTEline=1

Tony H.

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How do you work that out?

$125K is what an IFL costs.

Surely the number of Linux images is 
irrelevant, the only real purpose of an IFL is to reduce SW costs when 
you have other LPARS with z/OS etc...

No. There is more than that.
LINUX on any z-box still is 'free'.
The IFL just gives a better choice.

 I don't think you can drive the IFL very high with just that few.

Are you sure? That implies that a singe Linux LPAR cannot max out an IFL.

It doesn't max out an RS6000, so why would it max out an IFL.
In the *NIX world a machine running at 20% is running hot.
The whole purpose of the zVM/IFL/LINUX configuration is to add these up in 
one/two CP configs so they MAX them out.

Windows/*NIX do not run well at high (15%) usage.
z/VM and z/OS do!



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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I guess some IBM developers have a sense of humor after all.

I always thought they did.
Remember the prefix for SMS is IGD, and the main programme is called IGDZILLA.

I, Godzilla


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Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Mason
Pat,

I'm copying what came into my reader. Did you hit the wrong button
somewhere. I can't see anything new.

Chris Mason

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In lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, on 04/24/2006
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gt;I think the text you found logically, if not chronologically,
gt;precedes the introduction of the type 2.1 node and the introduction
gt;of the control point as the entity managing the node rather than
gt;always the PU.

Chronologically, which is why I made sure to mention that it was old.
But the PUCP was already there. If you have a recent FAPL manual, is
there a section on nomenclature around p I-8?

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Re: Adding LPARs without POR

2006-04-25 Thread Roy Hewitt

Ted,


How do you work that out?


$125K is what an IFL costs.


I wasn't referring to the purchase cost, I meant how do you calulate 
that 4 images isn't worth $125,000 USD for an IFL. i.e when does it 
become worth it?




Surely the number of Linux images is 
irrelevant, the only real purpose of an IFL is to reduce SW costs when 
you have other LPARS with z/OS etc...


No. There is more than that.
LINUX on any z-box still is 'free'.
The IFL just gives a better choice.


But not when there's z/OS on the same box- which is what we're talking 
about. Unless you get an IFL you pay the z/OS software costs, my point 
being that the only real incentive for an IFL is to save IBM and ISV 
costs when your running z/OS on the same box. I accept that on a 
crippled z800 your IFL runs at full speed, but the main driver is still 
about reducing software costs, especially on the bigger z machines.


I still dont understand in what way you mean an IFL is a better choice, 
apart from cost..its just an engine with a different pricing stucture, 
both in purchase cost and SW costs (i.e none)





I don't think you can drive the IFL very high with just that few.


Are you sure? That implies that a singe Linux LPAR cannot max out an IFL.

It doesn't max out an RS6000, so why would it max out an IFL.
In the *NIX world a machine running at 20% is running hot.


So at what level does a single Linux LPAR max out? It's not just the OS 
that causes the 'low' utilisation, the HW architecture plays a big part.



The whole purpose of the zVM/IFL/LINUX configuration is to add these up in 
one/two CP configs so they MAX them out.


I disagree the main purpose of zVM is to provide easier management  
config - such as disks and netork.  Are you saying that using z/VM with 
say 4 Linux images would perform better than 4 LPARS?




Windows/*NIX do not run well at high (15%) usage.
z/VM and z/OS do!



Regards

Roy

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Re: WebSphere Developer for z/Series

2006-04-25 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Thank you

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Check your program directories for details, but you probably want to install
FMID H002600 for JES remote access, and FMID H001600 for Remote System
Explorer, for z/OS data set and USS file access. For COBOL, PL/I, Assembler,
and EGL support, you'll want FMID HEDS500. Also check out the Websphere
Developer for zSeries Host Configuration Guide (SC31-6930).

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Re: ISFPARMS conversion to using SDSF server

2006-04-25 Thread Skip Robinson
By default the server is assumed to be named 'SDSF'. You can use a 
different name or run multiple SDSF servers--each with its own name, of 
course--to access different JES2 MASs. From the SDSF manual for 1.7:

3.3 Accessing the server
 
When the user accesses SDSF, the SDSF client attempts to connect to the 
SDSF server. The server that the client connects to is known as the local 
server. The following determine which server the client connects to, in 
this order: 
 
  The SERVER parameter of the SDSF command used to invoke SDSF (described 
below) 
  The SERVER keyword on the ISFPMAC macro of ISFPARMS. 
  The default server as defined by the CONNECT statement in ISFPARMS. See 
CONNECT statement in topic 2.10.3. 

If none of those names the server to be used, the client attempts to 
connect to server SDSF.
 
The user can request a specific server by adding a SERVER parameter to the 
SDSF command that invokes SDSF. The format of the server parameter is 
SERVER(server-name). For example, you might enter 
 
  SDSF SERVER(SDSFT) from the TSO READY prompt or
  S.SERVER(SDSFT) from the ISPF command line. 

When you use the SERVER parameter with the SDSF command, you cannot add 
any other SDSF commands. To use the SERVER parameter you must have READ 
access to the ISFCMD.OPT.SERVER SAF resource in the SDSF class. (The 
SERVER parameter can be protected only through SAF, not ISFPARMS.)





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 3) Where do you indicate that you will begin using SDSF SERVER instead
 of the load module?

You don't.  When your users enter SDSF, it looks to see if a server is 
running 
and if so, uses it to classify the userid.  (You might want to keep some 
manner 
of the load module around against the chance that the SDSF server isn't 
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Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:37:11 +0200, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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...
I'm copying what came into my reader. Did you hit the wrong button
somewhere. I can't see anything new.
...

I use the web interface to IBM-Main.  This has recently been restructured, 
and has the Quote Original Message button right above the Send button.
I've been known to hit Send instead of Quote, resulting in an empty post.
This time I it looks like I quoted but did nothing else.  I'm not sure
what I did.  Too bad.  I'm sure it was a truely brilliant posting, but I 
must have abandoned it.  (Maybe that was where I begged Shmuel to sell me 
his copy of the SNA FAP.)

Pat O'Keefe
 

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Tony Harminc
Jim Mulder wrote:

[D0D wait state code for the DOD]

 I guess some IBM developers have a sense of humor after all.

Any company that allows developers to ship macros named $DILBERT and
$DOGBERT (JES2), and a module named GIMISEX (SMP/E) is surely not without a
sense of humour. And then from the early 1970s there was the PL/I Checkout
Compiler manual that had an example of the change command in its little
line-mode editor. It went something like this:

change / f/ he/
And the resulting changed line was
'List of heart transplant patients'

(And it's only Tuesday - now will this post pass the netnanny stuff...?)

Tony H.

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

IIRC the continued to cut RMF records.

Paul Gillis wrote:

John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:

I vaguly remember reading a paper (about 7 or 8 years ago) where 
somebody turn off SMF recording and saw no measureable difference in 
CPU  utilziation.   



I wonder how they measured it?

Regards, Paul Gillis

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Re: getting time from an NTP server

2006-04-25 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

No, however it can be a NTP server.

nlehrer wrote:

can z/os get its time from an NTP server?



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Re: enterprise tape system 3590

2006-04-25 Thread Russell Witt
Franco,

Sam did a wonderful job giving you the different post-creation stacking
options (gotten to be a real crowded field) and also the different
virtual-tape solutions (always a very good method to fully utilize the high
capacity cartridges).

You never mentioned the tape management system you use, and what software
you are using to manage your robot. Most IBM ATL's (3494 and 3584) are
managed with SMS (OAM) since it is given free to manage, but some sites use
BTLS (extra cost option from IBM). If you are using CA-1 or CA-Dynam/TLMS as
your tape management system and BTLS to manage your IBM ATL, then there is
also an option called real time stacking that allows files to be stacked
as they are created (the file-seq is automatically changed). This would
prevent you from having to post-copy tape files. However, this option will
NOT work with an SMS managed 3494/3584 robot.

However, I do know of one client that ran for about 2 years using an IBM
3494/ATL with CA-1/CopyCat and did stacking on a daily basis. He would use
about 1/2 the scratch tapes inside the 3494 during the daily processing; and
then late at night (after all the backups were finished) they would run a
large CA-1/CopyCat operation to stack that days processing onto 1 or 2 fully
utilized cartridges. Then, on a weekly basis they would consolidate those
cartridges even further. It wasn't a pretty operation, but it allowed them
to process for 2 years before upgrading to a 3494/VTS (which by that time
was almost thrown in for free as part of the maintenance package for the
3494 itself). If you are interested, I will see if that client would be
willing to share his experience.

Russell Witt
CA-1 Level-2 Support Manager

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HI EVERYONE,

WE HAVE AN ATL 3590, AND ARE USING 3590 AND 3592 DRIVES,WITH 60 GB AND 300
GB CARTRIDGES TO BACKUP OUR DATA, IS THERE ANY SUITABLE PROGRAM TO STACK
DATA ON THESE CARTRIDGES AND ALSO USE THESE CARTRIDGES TO THEIR OPTIMUM
LEVEL, MEAN USE THEM 100%
ANY HELP SUGGESTIONS WILL BE APPRECIATED

THANKS
FRANCO

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Re: Overhead of SMF Records

2006-04-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 00:00 + on 04/25/2006, Ted MacNEIL wrote about Re: Overhead of 
SMF Records:



I always thought they did.
Remember the prefix for SMS is IGD, and the main programme is called IGDZILLA.

I, Godzilla


If SMS's prefix was IMG, they could have named the main module as 
IMGOJIRA (I'm GOJIRA - GOJIRA [Giant Whale] being Godzilla's real 
Japanese Name before the English Dubs are done).


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Re: RMM Restore CDS

2006-04-25 Thread Michael W. Moss
Try http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2C840/17.4?DT=20050714162634

As you're using DSS, try http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2C840/17.4.6

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:47:14 -0700, Hjelm, Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

In compliance with our current Disaster Recovery procedures, I've been
able to use the following JCL to backup the RMM CDS and Journal files
directly to tape as the last step in a larger JCL stream that backups up
all of our essential catalog files and such.  Now I'm in need of JCL to
restore the files from the afore mentioned tape.  I'd like to test this
by restoring the CDS and Journal files to a new name so that I don't
overwrite the existing PROD files.  I've looked over the manuals but
have yet to find exactly what I'm looking for.  Any help or suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

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