Re: [CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
Tom Piwowar wrote: My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? I do have and regularly use a registry cleaner. Doesn't help with this problem. Which one? The one that I use is called Registry Mechanic. Now this story: Five years ago or so I paid a one-time fee of about $30 for this software, and received updates for a while. Then last year I noticed a credit card charge to Registry Mechanic of about $20. I emailed RM and asked why this unauthorized charge was put on my credit card. They said that I could have it removed, so I did. They removed the charge but informed me that I was no longer authorized to use their software and must delete same from my computer. Since this was definitely not the original agreement that I had with them, I continue to use it. The registry cleaner is bundled with a registry optimization (I guess compaction) program, as well as an optional resident program that monitors any changes to the registry so that it can be restored when any software is installed. Before cleaning the registry, a restore point is always created. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Creative ASIO device error message
My question is: can I make the following changes to the registry of Windows XP Home without fear of creating a big problem? I purchased the latest version of a PC movie maker program (Pinnacle Studio 12) and every time I start the program I receive 5 error messages saying: The Creative ASIO devices have changed. You may need to restart this program before using Creative ASIO devices. I googled this message and found the following advice: == This message is reported by the Creative ASIO drivers. The problem appears that the Creative installer does not clean up the entries in the registry when installing new drivers. Locate this key in your registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ASIO You will find a number of entries in here depending on your system. Locate any entry that says Creative or Audigy. You should only have one entry for the Creative soundcard. If you have more than one, you will have to locate the entries for these labeled: CLSID -Rename one of these to xCLSID -Start your program -If you get the error message, then you may have renamed the wrong one. Go back and rename another CLSID, and name the previously renamed CLSID back to its original name. Go through the list until you find the culprit CLSID. = In fact, I found three CLSID entries in the registry. Do I have to reboot after renaming each? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 Public Beta: 1st Major Blooper
I'm not trying to start an argument, but I have had a problem with the Creative Zen mp3 player. Bought one for my daughter last Xmas because it (unlike the iPod or the Zune) can download and play audio novels from the public library. A few months later the LCD screen cracked without explanation. Searching the web for a repair place (found that the 8 GB unit not expensive enough to justify repair), I came across a lot of reports of the Zen LCD screen breaking without cause. I opted to buy the same model to replace the first because it was much cheaper than the iPod and the Zune. So far, still works. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: This is where I think Creative shines actually. I have a few of the Creative MP3 players and have been very satisfied with them. We have never looked at Ipods, but like our Creative MP3 players very much. (I think we have 4-5 different ones in the house.) Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy PC memory?
I am the original poster of this thread. Thanks to all who replied to my questions. In case anyone cares, (1) Crucial.com lists memory for the HP Pavillion a6600z for $23 for 2 GB card; (2) datamem.com does not sell memory for HP a6600z; (3) haven't looked at OtherWorld yet; (4) after investigation, it seems to me that a mixed 2 GB plus 1 GB card is possible (this configuration was offered on the HP desktop for $50 more than the basic 1 GB + 1 GB that I bought) but that DDRAM transfer will be disabled: matched cards must be used for DDRAM so that 4 GB matched pair cost $46 from crucial. (By DDRAM, I mean memory write on both up down pulse so that data transfer is slower.) Therefore, I will keep existing 2 GB total memory until daughter complains, if ever. (5) BTW, the need for additional memory is for video processing but the HP computer came without the necessary IEEE 1394 socket, so I have bought an add-on card that claims to work with Vista 64 bits. Came today, not installed yet so still hoping. db wrote: As someone who installed hundreds of sticks of memory / year for years, it was my experience that there is different levels of quality of memory and you pay for the difference... but not much in the case of Crucial since it is the retail arm of Micron one of the largest mem manufacturers in the world ... and they run a high volume / low price market model of business with no middle man markup. And the same quality issue is involved as with all computer parts and as with most things. You can manufacture things of better quality or worse ... or to put it another way ... things coming off the line test out at different levels of capacity. And not much is thrown away. Thus the term... 3rd drawer. Items that test out at sub par standards, are 3rd drawer and are usually sold thru non premium discount channels. Crucial sells only first drawer and in my experience their memory's performance and failure rate easily attests to that. I imagine Micron sells it 3rd drawer productn unbranded or rebranded thru external channels Problems with an under performing memory stick are a real illusive pain in the butt. Why subject yourself to raised possibility of such for pennies savings or no savings at all? Crucial is one of those companies that should be winning awards for doing great win-win business for a long time... a somewhat rare commodity. I really enjoy buying their product and supporting them. Cheap prices, great product, great support, FAST delivery... what's not to like? db Tom Piwowar wrote: Tom will tell you they are more expensive, but when I check, crucial beats datamem's prices. When I checked, Crucial's prices they were high, sometimes very high. I think it is silly to overpay when there is no difference in the product. For years Crucial has claimed special sauce and I think that was false. If they have changed their ways there is no reason to not buy from them. You could do worse, like buying memory from Apple or Dell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] How to make a Mac computer view wmv files?
My daughter has a Macbook Pro laptop. She says she can't view WMV video files. Is there a way to view them on the Mac? If not, what video format can be viewed? RealVideo? Mpeg? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Where to buy PC memory?
I bought a new HP model a6600z desktop computer for my daughter (to replace an old desktop that couldn't recognize its optical drive no matter how much I tried to fix it). Windows 64-bit Vista Home Premium OS. The computer has two memory slots, both filled with 1 GB memory cards. To get 3 GBs memory cost $50 additional at HP, so I reasoned that throwing away one of the 1 GB cards and adding a 2 GB card in its place would be cheaper. Where to buy such a memory card? The spec says DDR2-800 MHz SDRAM. Do I need to know more than this to buy a memory card? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Vista computer experiences
Not true. I searched MS library and found a way to turn off UAC (despite the link provided by Jeff Wright which says that it can't be done on Vista Home Basic Premium). It's done with msconfig, or by editing the registry. Once I turned off UAC, the software installed. mike wrote: You don't need to turn off UAC to install anything. If it's able to be installed on 64bit it will...UAC doesn't have anything to do with it. Mike On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Robert carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote: This must be the problem that I have installing older software on a Vista 64-bit computer that I just bought. When I insert the application CD, a message appears that I don't have administration rights to install the software. According to the MS link that you provided, the only way to install the software is to turn off UAC if I understand it. Unfortunately, Vista Home Premium does not provide a way to turn off UAC, so I must buy a new software application that costs as much as the new computer. Is there any way to install this software? Jeff Wright wrote: I thought the same thing at first, but no, you really are a standard user with limited rights until you elevate the user to admin rights with UAC. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx MS didn't do a very good job publicizing this aspect of Vista's security. Come to think of it, they didn't do a very good job publicizing *anything* about Vista, except how to get sued for letting the marketing trolls handle everything. - * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Vista computer experiences
This must be the problem that I have installing older software on a Vista 64-bit computer that I just bought. When I insert the application CD, a message appears that I don't have administration rights to install the software. According to the MS link that you provided, the only way to install the software is to turn off UAC if I understand it. Unfortunately, Vista Home Premium does not provide a way to turn off UAC, so I must buy a new software application that costs as much as the new computer. Is there any way to install this software? Jeff Wright wrote: I thought the same thing at first, but no, you really are a standard user with limited rights until you elevate the user to admin rights with UAC. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx MS didn't do a very good job publicizing this aspect of Vista's security. Come to think of it, they didn't do a very good job publicizing *anything* about Vista, except how to get sued for letting the marketing trolls handle everything. -Original Message- Let her get settled in with it before you play with it, and let us know how she likes it. Eventually, you'll want to go in and set her up as a User, since apparently by default the owner is still inexplicably an Admin. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Dell XPS and Vista 64 bit
I was browsing the Dell website for an XPS desktop, and found that all the XPS machines come with Vista 64-bit OS, whether I select an Intel 2 Duo or a quad-core processor. The 32-bit version of Vista is not offered. Do these processors require 64-bit OS to function? I have a lot of old software and old drivers for hardware, and don't want to have to buy all new peripherals when I buy a new computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Reinstalling Windows XP
This is a continuation thread of a problem that started two or three months ago. What has gone before: Daughter took PC to college; sometime thereafter optical drive failed to work. Drive does not appear in My Computer. Device Manager says driver is corrupt or missing. Does not seem to be a device driver for the optical drive on the web, only a firmware update. Bought new optical drive, computer would not recognize it. Now have been removing all programs installed since daughter went to college, no improvement. Virus scan, registry scan, etc. all performed. Now decide to reformat primary hard disk and reinstall OS. Question: how? Optical drive doesn't work. A gamble to reformat hard disk, hoping optical drive will start working after reformatting. What to do? === On other thing, maybe unimportant: At each bootup, OS checks Drive D for errors. (Internal physical drive is partitioned to Drive C: for programs, and D: for data.) No problem ever found using chkdsk on either drive C: or drive D: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How to forward email message to gmail?
Jeff Wright wrote: I want to find a way to forward multiple email messages from my work email account to gmail for storage. By this, I mean that I want the messages in gmail to appear listed individually in the same way that they are received in my work email. Why? Because my work email has a strict limit of 50 MB for all messages combined -- inbox, trash, sent, drafts, etc. If the quota is exceeded, the work email ceases to function. (When exceeded, I can't even delete trash to get under the quota.) Let's back up a minutewhat is your work using for mail client and how are they enforcing quotas in T-Bird? There's some information missing that might lead to a better solution. I'm using Thunderbird at work. They don't enforce quotas with Thunderbird. The work email account is IMAP and when it contains more than 50 MB it is shut down at the source. Instead of erasing all my old messages to stay underneath the quota, I want to store them by sending the old messages to gmail for storage. In the event that I need to find an old message, I would search the gmail account using Thunderbird. The problem is that if I select, say, a hundred old email messages from the work account and send them to gmail, they arrive as one message that has been concatenated. This means Thunderbird can't search for subject, sender, date, etc. Is there a better solution to storing old messages? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios
On Cox cable (I'm the one considering switching to Verizon fios) the InternetFrog shows download speed 4.45 Mbps and upload 2.29. gerald wrote: on the wva sites i show 9.8 2.1 on the internet frog i showed 8.2 2.78. big ratio difference. maybe the way the sites look at things and connect. there are troubleshooting guides and software adjustments buried in here: http://www.dslreports.com/tools along with reference to 385 test sites. At 06:04 PM 10/31/2008, you wrote: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios
P.S., I tried the InternetFrog a second time with Cox cable, and got these results: download 6.76 Mbps, upload 2.36 Mbps. Actually, after several repeats of the test, these numbers are more typical of these tests than the earlier one that I originally posted. So happens on the first post, I was doing video editing in the background. So, it seems that download with Verizon fios is about 25% faster than cable, upload about the same. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Run this speedtest http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/. FIOS just came in at 8.54 Mbps down (between T2 and Ethernet speeds) and 89kbps up. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Considering Verizon fios
A door-to-door salesman showed up at my hovel today to sell me Verizon's internet, TV, and phone package using FIOS. I know FIOS transmission is supposed to be quicker than cable, but I don't know if I would actually benefit from getting it. To ask those who know, what improvement (if any) would I see in a TV signal using fios over cable, both now with analog TV and later using HD TV? What improvement in internet speed would I see, considering that I am using the internet for simple web browsing and email mostly? Background: I now have Verizon local telephone, Sprint long-distance (usually no charge per month), Cox internet cable, and DirectTV. My current monthly bill is about $165 for same, paid month-to-month (analog TV box). The similar service for Verizon FIOS is $145 per month for a one-year contract -- thereafter going month-to-month which will increase about $15 if prices are not raised. Verizon might offer another contract at the end of the first year but that price is unknown. In addition, the free DVR that Verizon offers might be charged for after the first year. Plus, getting a HD TV box with Verizon FIOS is about $10 per month extra. Technical: To try to gain some technical insight, I asked the salesman how many hours the free 120 GB DVR would record; he responded that it would record 3 hours per GB for analog TV. This means that the TV signal is compressed about 12:1, a fairly high amount IMHO. I asked how many HD hours could the DVR record, and his response was that it could record 1/4 the time of analog TV signals -- I don't know if this means the compression is 3:1 or not. Since compression of prerecorded video sources can be easily done, but maybe real-time signals can't be compressed quickly enough for transmission, I asked if there was a difference in recording time between analog HD signals. He responded that this was too technical a question for him to answer. Any insight? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Installing fonts for Windows
Thanks for info. My problem is that I don't know which are installed and which aren't. There are about 2000 typefaces. What happens if I follow your instructions to select all of them but about 600 are already installed? Jeff Wright wrote: I want to install new typefaces fonts on a computer. I already know how to do so using Windows XP Control Panel. But there are a lot of fonts to install, so I wonder if just to copy paste them to the Windows Fonts folder will do. Can I? No. Highlight a chunk of the fonts, right click on the highlighted font files and choose Install. Windows will put them in the Fonts folder correctly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Start menu on Windows XP question
I have a 5-year old desktop PC using Windows XP Home. The Start Menu (to get a list of All Programs to launch) displays all the installed programs in a listing by columns. If there are more programs than can be listed in a single column, a second column is listed to the right of the first, and so forth. Now I have installed so many programs that the maximum of four columns are used up and a fifth column is started. The fifth column can't be seen as it is off the right side of the screen. There is no slider to shift the columns AFAIK. Of course, the unseen programs can't be launched from the Start menu. I am parsimonious; the installed programs are actually used needed by me -- I uninstall all programs that are unneeded or do not work well. My question that seeks to solve my problem: is there a fix for Windows XP that will allow all my programs to appear on the Start menu? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital TV converter box
Where did you get it? Constance Warner wrote: This may not be exactly a propos, but we bought a new VCR with a digital tuner in it. Much to our surprise, we picked up digital signals as soon as we installed it, using an old window-mounted analog antenna. Unfortunately, we can't tell whether all of the stations will come in after the full conversion to digital, as we're still picking up analog signals from the major commercial channels. If you need a new VCR anyway--and you might, because if you want to record digital programs off the airwaves, you need to do it on digital media--this might be a good and easy-to-install alternative to a converter box. BTW, we're in the Rockville end of Silver Spring, at an area where analog reception is fairly good but not outstanding. One pleasant surprise: WJLA TV (Channel 7), in Washington, has several auxiliary digital channels. One of them, Channel 7-3, has reruns of Magnum PI and Rockford Files on weekday evenings (9-11 p.m.). The comparison with the production values and, especially, the writing on today's network shows is striking. There's just so much more going on in the older shows (in characterization, dialogue, plot, etc.) that you don't see in something like the CSI shows, where the action periodically grinds to a screeching halt while a beautiful but expressionless actor does something incomprehensible to some nasty substance in a test tube, while a popular song plays in the background and the editors go wild with tricky camera shots. On the other hand, MPT (Maryland Public Television) doesn't come in at all where we live, but since it never did have a good signal in Montgomery County, and it apparently doesn't have Dr. Who any more, who cares? --Constance Warner * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question
A follow-up on my question about finding a replacement device for my broken VCR that will work with both broadcast digital signals and satellite signals. After much searching, I have concluded there is no replacement for a VCR. Searching Google for a VCR with digital tuner there is only one hit, at Walmart. Going to Walmart site, the VCR is not available on-line and not available in any store within 100 miles of me. Looking at a VCR/DVD recorder, find that copy protection prevents recording from a DirectTV satellite box -- at least the movie channels. Looking at TiVo, find at TiVo web site that the TiVo will not work at all with satellite unless I buy the model which works only with analog TV. http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/whichtivoforme/index.html As for buying a refurbished VCR, my digital converter box automatically shuts off after 4 hours thereby preventing timer recording. Pundits on the web say that after the change-over to digital broadcasting, copy protection will be extended to broadcast digital signals, disabling recording on any of the above devices for these selected programs. So it looks to me like time-shifting programs is a thing of the past, at least for the ones that are copy protected. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] GPS advice
Maybe I misunderstand, but are you asking about a GPS? I have a Garmin and like it very much. There are many ways to plan a trip. There is an extensive list of places -- universities, restaurants, churches, theaters, gas stations, and very many more that may be selected as a destination. Of course, any address can be entered and saved for the future. The device displays a map and gives ample driving directions audibly as you drive along the route. If you detour from the route, the device will automatically recalculate a new route. There is no subscription needed to use the maps and driving instructions. There is an optional device that may be attached which communicates with an external radio to offer advice about traffic conditions so that an alternate route can be selected if desired -- I don't have this and can't comment about its effectiveness. The map supplied covers US and Canada. Other maps may be purchased at a price of about $120 each, such as Europe or Asia. Maps are not updated. Over time, new roads are created and perhaps some are closed. A new map must be purchased for $120 when the old one becomes out of date. I've had mine for 4 years and have not updated. The only time I had trouble getting a satellite reception was in New York city among many skyscrapers. After I got a few blocks away the signal became available. Almost all brands of GPS use either one of two maps that they purchase from a vendor. My daughter has a Tom Tom that uses the map from the different supplier of maps. When I drive to their house on the river in southern Virginia, my Garmin plots a trip going the fastest way -- hers plots a different path that is not as fast. I believe it is the map that makes the difference. The only thing that gives me a problem with my Garmin is the suction cup. The cup tends to loose suction when it is in direct sunlight. As for connecting to a computer, I don't know. I don't know why I would like to connect to a computer if it can be done. Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Tom Piwowar You should not just look at the purchase price. Also factor in the annual subscription price and/or the cost of software upgrades. Also do they support Mac's? I can't convince my wife to switch though so maybe she'll let me use her computer... Subscription? to what? how often do they update maps? Does the unit stop working if you don't have a subscription? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Low battery voltage warning?
Tony B wrote: A digital clock doesn't slow down when the battery gets low. It either runs or it doesn't. I guess any battery eventually dies, but no, I've never replaced a cmos battery, presumably because the boards are replaced first. My oldest running system is about 7 (?) years old now - an old Pentium 2. Batteries -- actually a cell in a computer -- are strange. I had to replace my CMOS cell a few months ago in a Dell desktop about 4 years old. But some will last 10 years as they do in my watch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question
Betty, What is the name of the DVD recorder? When I Google Samsung DVD recorder I get only links to camcorders. When I visit the Samsung web site, there is no product there that looks like a digital VCR using DVD disks or hard drives. b_s-wilk wrote: I wouldn't buy a combo recorder. It's better to have separate devices. When [not if] one fails, you don't have to replace both as in a combo. We have a Samsung DVD recorder that works very well. It recognizes and records on DVD-R/RW disks, and plays CDs/MP3s. Picked up a JVC VCR cheap, connected them and converted lots of tapes, so far. The DVD recorder also upconverts to hi-def very well for our 42 HDTV. Only thing missing is HDMI. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Help fuddy-duddy with VCR question
My VHS VCR of about 10 years just died, and my VCR with S-VHS appears likely to die shortly. Oh! All my tapes of my children that I intended to transfer to DVD from 20 years ago but never did may be lost; recording the latest presidential debate tonight might not happen if the S-VHS fails. For TV, I have both a roof-top antenna and a satellite dish. The roof-top antenna delivers a better picture than satellite, plus I can receive distant TV stations that I can't receive with satellite. I am aware that (1) analog TV is nearly over, and (2) TiVo is a digital recorder alternative. But my understanding of TiVo is that is mostly a rental arrangement with monthly payments. I am paying almost $300 per month already in digital stuff (cell phones, $130 or more; satellite TV $80; internet $45; ground phone $45), so I don't want to add more monthly payments to what I used to get for free. Question: can you tell an old fuddy-duddy where to learn about what options might be available for digital VCRs, that are actually owned by me instead of rented, to record off the satellite and off the coming digital signals? An ability to play analog VHS would be a plus. (So far I still have a Beta recorder.) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Still trouble with optical drive
This is a follow-up of the original message about a failed optical drive on a custom-built PC. My freshman daughter in college reported that her optical drive -- CD/DVD burner -- was unusable, didn't appear in My Computer, and gave an error message Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39) I found the Microsoft advisory for this code message, did the suggested fix myself when visiting her dorm, and the drive still didn't work. I ordered a new optical drive from Newegg. Daughter installed the new drive, and when accessing the new drive received this message: Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39) This time, the Windows help message has changed. It says to uninstall the device driver and then do a new hardware search. The previous message from Microsoft involved downloading a wizard that would remove items from the registry, or to do it by hand using regedit. There were very many registry entries in multiple places in the registry, so I used the wizard to remove the registry entries. What now? I don't know what to do. I have advised her to return the disk drive to Newegg for a replacement, but she waited so long to install it the return date might have passed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fake popup study sadly confirms most users are idiots
There was not enough information in the link for me to conclude how effective the experiment was. For example, the article did not say if the students were using their own computer or someone else's computer, such as a school computer. If the latter case, then a student might well decide that any trouble resulting from his behavior was someone else's problem to fix. Tony B wrote: Which somehow doesn't surprise me. :) http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-study-confirms-users-are-idiots.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: Large hadron collider views...
At 04:31 PM 9/13/2008, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html Black hole, schmack hole! I refuse to let this European fuck-up harsh my weekend mellow. I mean, just because the world is about to end in an unstoppable gravitational collapse doesn't mean we can't boogie till we puke. So, here's what I propose: Singularity Party at my apartment. The entire list is invited. I've already hired a band. BYO, but I'll provide cups, ice, mixers, chips, dips, crudités, canapés, and other noshes, including celery stalks with peanut butter, for all of the unreconstructed vegetarians among you. Come as you are. Screw the address. Here are the grid coordinates: 38º 38' 51.45 N; 121º 19' 27.41 W Go around back, and come up the stairs. Door on the right. Bob There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] MacBook Pro warranty
Daughter bought a MacBook Pro a year ago and purchased a 3-year warranty. Now, (1) DVD burner sometimes works, sometimes doesn't and (2) there are dead pixels showing on the screen. She went to the Apple store in Tysons Corner, waited 3 hours to see someone, and was told to burn all the data on the computer to DVD disks (from the burner that sometimes works) and to return. As for the pixels, they said the computer had a dent so she would have to pay $800 for a repair. She says the dent was caused by dropping her headphone onto the computer. I'm guessing they intend to reinstall the OS to try to fix the DVD burner problem. As for the dead pixels, they are not in the same location as the dent. They are fairly few and randomly spaced. How likely is the burner problem to be an OS problem? Or, are all Mac problems always first assumed to be caused by the OS? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MacBook Pro warranty
P.S. I misunderstood daughter. The MacBook Pro does not have a DVD burner, only the CD burner that came with it. She was told to backup data to CDs. All other info correct. Charles Ballinger wrote: My MBP also hiccups burning DVDs and CDs. I intend to get it in under AppleCare, but in the meantime Jave found it does well with Sony -R CDs and dvds for some reason. Charles On Sep 12, 2008, at 17:12, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daughter bought a MacBook Pro a year ago and purchased a 3-year warranty. Now, (1) DVD burner sometimes works, sometimes doesn't and (2) there are dead pixels showing on the screen. She went to the Apple store in Tysons Corner, waited 3 hours to see someone, and was told to burn all the data on the computer to DVD disks (from the burner that sometimes works) and to return. As for the pixels, they said the computer had a dent so she would have to pay $800 for a repair. She says the dent was caused by dropping her headphone onto the computer. I'm guessing they intend to reinstall the OS to try to fix the DVD burner problem. As for the dead pixels, they are not in the same location as the dent. They are fairly few and randomly spaced. How likely is the burner problem to be an OS problem? Or, are all Mac problems always first assumed to be caused by the OS? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LHC
At 05:04 PM 9/9/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? 1. You seem to think it will matter, no pun intended. 2. Is this thing a REAL Large Hadron Collider, or a Sears/Kenmore Large Hadron Collider? 3. Pedro, Pablo y Maria are going to put out a new single: If I Had A Hadron. The Crystals are reworking their 1963 hit to accommodate the lyrics, I smashed it on a Wednesday and my quarks stood still, hadron, ron, ron, ron, hadron, ron, ron. Eat your heart out, Spill Phector. 4. Is that an entire black hole, or just a partial one? I hear the gentle voices calling, Whole black hole. 5. CERN is engaging in unfair discrimination. What about all those people who don't have large hadrons? Where can THEY go to have their small or modestly-sized hadrons collided? Huh? 6. Allstate and Nationwide are suggesting that when you buy insurance for both your automobile and your hadrons, your policy should include collision. 7. The philosophy which governs CERN's transactions with neutrons: No charge. Bob 2 + 2 = 5, for very large values of 2. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Chrome glitches?
I am developing a web site. I found that Chrome -- I downloaded just for testing -- apparently does not recognize the embed statement in html. While embed is not standard html, it is how audio and video gets played on a web site. Firefox, IE, and Opera all recognize embed. Paul Meyer wrote: Anyone had glitches with chrome? I had 6-8 tabs open in FF the other day, all the sites become unreachable, except that I notice gmail was still up. I decided to uninstall Chrome (this is XP)and I don't even think I rebooted and the sites were all back up. Could be coincidence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Chrome glitches?
I disagree strongly with your statement--see next. However, I agree that automatic playing of music is not acceptable when visiting a web page. For my web site, I am not automatically playing music when the page is entered. There is a link to a listen to music page from the home page. Once the link is clicked upon, the listen page is shown. In that page, there are links to select the kind of music to be played. No click on link, no music. If a link is selected then a popup opens that should play the music just once. The listener can close the popup and stop the music at any time by clicking on either the close button or the close link in the popup. Embed is the only way that I know how to include music or video in a web page. If there is another way, please let me know. According to how it is used, both automatic playing and otherwise requires the statement AFAIK. You can see my web site, still not completed, at http://www.riversidesax.info/ John DeCarlo wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am developing a web site. I found that Chrome -- I downloaded just for testing -- apparently does not recognize the embed statement in html. While embed is not standard html, it is how audio and video gets played on a web site. Firefox, IE, and Opera all recognize embed. You mean that is how it gets played without any action on the person's part. It is a shame that people still try to do this kind of thing - no audio or video should be allowed unless the person browsing the site wants it. This is a huge feature plus for Chrome. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Chrome glitches?
Tom Piwowar wrote: I am developing a web site. I found that Chrome -- I downloaded just for testing -- apparently does not recognize the embed statement in html. While embed is not standard html, it is how audio and video gets played on a web site. Firefox, IE, and Opera all recognize embed. Actually, to reliably incorporate media files you have to use both the embed and object tags. The so called twice cooked method. Have you tried that? The web site that I am developing used only the embed and the noembed tags, but I have now modified with both object and embed. This I haven't uploaded yet. The reason is that I am now unsure what player to specify to open the downloaded mp3 file. Should I specify Quicktime or MS Media Player or some other? I need to find out if it is possible to have no specification when using the object tag. Any source info to help me out? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tom Piwowar for President
At 03:21 AM 9/3/2008, John McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should only be one name on the short list for VP John Gilroy! The Piwowar/Gilroy ticket would be like a reunion of Lennon and Macartney. Between John and Tom, which one is the dead guy? Hard for me to tell, just by looking. Bob In the Garden of Eden, when Eve put soothing oil on her husband's wounds, that was the first Adam balm. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer back up?
So happens that I was looking last night a Newegg for a USB external hard drive, and I discovered that these drives cost about $80 -- $100 regardless of whether they were 300 GB or 500 GB; the 100 GB size cost about $60 -- $90. If it were me, I would buy the 500 GB or larger at a cost of around $100. Ranbo wrote: I need to get something for computer back up. Would an external hard drive be the simplest, most economical way to go? If so, what issues or features should I take into account? I have a 110 gig hard drive, so wonder how many gigs of back up I need. See some on sale that hold 300, 500 or, I think, 1,000 gig. At the moment, would mostly be to back up text, email and some photos, but guess I'd like some flexibility in the future to back up more photos, audio files and maybe some videos. I'd like to spend less than $100. Can anyone suggest a good product to meet these parameters and where to get it? Thanks, Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer back up?
Of course how much additional magnetic storage you need depends on your requirements. I need about 1.5 terrabytes so I have several external hard drives connected to my computer. I chose external hard drives instead of upgrading or adding to my internal ones; there is not really a good reason to justify one way or another as far as I know, but it was just easier for me with external drives. Plus, they are more flexible -- I gave one of my smaller 300 GB drives to my freshman daughter in college to encourage her backups and to hold the music videos she will soon be downloading like any other college student. She knows how to plug in an external drive. If you are using an external hard drive for everyday storage to augment your limited-size internal drive, I recommend one that automatically shuts itself off when it is not needed (and on when it is needed). If you are using it only for backups or for some data transfer that is infrequent, an external drive that has a manual shutoff switch is better. If you have been happy with 110 GB internal storage, you probably don't need more than 500 GB external. But it might be tight to get a 100 or 120 GB external drive for backup. Comparing $80 with $100, the 500 GB drive is a better choice. (The cost of name brands is at the higher end of the range that I mentioned -- but, who knows, maybe the name brands are no better than the unknown brands? I believe this is definitely true for DVD players that I have bought.) Just my opinion, everyone has at least one. Ranbo wrote: Even if my current hard drive is only 110? Maybe I should, at some point, upgrade that as well. Guess getting 500 for $100 vs. 100 or 60 is a much better deal. Any need to go higher than 500? Thanks Randall On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So happens that I was looking last night a Newegg for a USB external hard drive, and I discovered that these drives cost about $80 -- $100 regardless of whether they were 300 GB or 500 GB; the 100 GB size cost about $60 -- $90. If it were me, I would buy the 500 GB or larger at a cost of around $100. Ranbo wrote: I need to get something for computer back up. Would an external hard drive be the simplest, most economical way to go? If so, what issues or features should I take into account? I have a 110 gig hard drive, so wonder how many gigs of back up I need. See some on sale that hold 300, 500 or, I think, 1,000 gig. At the moment, would mostly be to back up text, email and some photos, but guess I'd like some flexibility in the future to back up more photos, audio files and maybe some videos. I'd like to spend less than $100. Can anyone suggest a good product to meet these parameters and where to get it? Thanks, Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Tom Piwowar for President
At 01:10 PM 9/1/2008, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who should I pander to? You should pander to me: Your old pal, Bob. Should I consider a hermaphrodite who uses a PC at work and a Mac at home? No, you shouldn't. Proper pandering requires you to give me cash, not hermaphrodites. Bob In the Garden of Eden, when Eve put soothing oil on her husband's wounds, that was the first Adam balm. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Newbie at domain name/web hosting asks simple quest
Well, I have already registered the domain name for one year at a cost of $2 so that I can't now stay away. But the web host is a different company, 3essentials. Tom Piwowar wrote: It is ironic that I have gotten very little spam as a result of my public domain registration, but I have gotten buckets of unsolicited offers from GoDaddy as the result or registering a domain with them. Some of the GoDaddy offers were deciptively written to fool the unwary. Stay away! * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Newbie at domain name/web hosting asks simple question
Newbie at making a web site (better said: at creating a new domain name web hosting) has registered a domain name (godaddy) and paid for web hosting (3essentials). Godaddy wants me to pay an additional $9 per year to them for privacy for the domain name. Is it worth it? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How to fix a missing optical drive on a PC?
Thanks for the speedy reply. I've emailed daughter to ask about her installing any new programs. Is it possible that a program can cause a problem with the optical drive on one computer but not on another? The last program installed on daughter's computer that Dad paid for is Adobe Photoshop Elements 8, and that was nearly a year ago. It is also on my computer with no problem. If any other program was installed by me, can't remember, it would have been some free utility. Daughter is studying art photography. Thing is, I don't know for sure that the optical drive vanished just after the move to university. I'm guessing daughter might not use the drive often so that it might have failed before the move. Second question: If the optical drive itself failed (therefore needs replacement), would Device Manager give the Code 39 error? Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Hold fast I have seen this before. Ask one pertinent question. HAVE YOU INSTALLED ANY PROGRAM OR SOFTWARE LATELY! There are a few programs out there that will block recognition and installation of the drivers for optical drives. If that is not the case it is possible the cable came loose on it. But check the top item first. Stewart At 04:10 PM 8/27/2008, you wrote: I'm asking what else can be done to fix the problem. BACKGROUND My daughter just started her freshman year in college, taking her PC with Windows XP Pro with her. She emailed me this week saying that she can't access the optical drive after the move: it spins for a few seconds when a disk is inserted but it does not appear in My Computer. I replied to first check Belarc Advisor, then go to Device Manager. Also open the case and check to see if the data cables are firmly connected. HER RESPONSE She writes: I went to belarc and the drive did not show up on the list, so i did as you instructed and went to control panel system device manager; when I looked under the DVD/CD-ROM drives the thing had a little yellow circle with an explanation point in it. I clicked it and a little tabbed window popped up, under the Device status section it says Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39) MY LATEST ADVICE TO HER First, is there a way of fixing the driver in Device Manager? Try right-clicking on the yellow circle. If this doesn't work, try following the directions on this page: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314060 Print out the instructions before starting. I also suggested downloading a new driver, but she doesn't know the model of optical drive and says she can't open the case because she lacks a screwdriver. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] eSnipe failure. need replacement
b_s-wilk wrote: There are so many eBay stores with Buy It Now prices better than ending auction prices, and other sites with great prices. Betty --- Agreed. I always search for a good price from a source other than eBay, and many times I can find one that is sells the same item cheaper than the final eBay price. There are two things to be said however. On eBay, running up the price just seconds before the auction closes is a way of getting a better price than one could by bidding earlier with a high bid in the hope that other bidders will not exceed that bid by successive bidding. Second, I am a veteran of real auctions so that I know how to bid within reason. I collect a very select kind of item that usually sell between $2000 to $2 per item, and I am knowledgeable about the item. During the viewing, I inspect each item in detail and assign a maximum value to the item. During bidding, I will never go above the maximum and never regret losing an item if the bidding exceeds my price since I know the successful bidder, other than me, has overpaid. (But you can't believe the tricks that some bidders will do to prevent a fair auction. Rather than complain about the cheater, I will collude with the auctioneer and with the honest bidders at the next auction to shut out the cheater.) I believe my auction experience makes me a better bargainer for everyday items that are negotiable in price. It is wise to remember that another bargain is coming if you pass up the current bargain. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Testing my new Computer Guys email account
For the third or fourth time I have been automatically unsubscribed to this listserv because, the notice says, messages have been bounced back from my Cox email account. Each time before I resubscribed, but this time I have set up a gmail account for receiving listserv messages. This message is a test to see if I can post from the new gmail account to the listserv. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Testing my new Computer Guys email account
Thanks for the reply. However, I don't see my original message at all. This is the same as different group that I belong to, a Yahoo group, that comes to a gmail account. I can't tell if my message is received unless someone replies to it. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Post successful. I've been using gmail for this for years. Just don't expect to see your own messages until someone replies. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Testing my new Computer Guys email account -- P.S.
Actually, I resubscribed to the Computer Guys to the Cox address as well as subscribing for same on the my gmail address, to see if there were any differences. I figure in a few weeks the Cox address will be unsubscribed once again. My question: the gmail account is a POP address; I'm using Thunderbird. When I get messages via Thunderbird from this listserv, what happens to the messages at gmail? Are they saved on gmail, or are they erased when I view them in Thunderbird? The reason that I ask is for an archival purpose: if messages are saved on gmail, I can erase old messages in the Thunderbird folder. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Post successful. I've been using gmail for this for years. Just don't expect to see your own messages until someone replies. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FiOS installation
Eric S. Sande wrote: Fiber spans rarely fail, unless inadvertently cut. If the fiber optic is cut, can it be spliced back into service like a cut copper wire? Or does a whole new line have to be run? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 10:12 AM 8/5/2008, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order for secularism, whatever in hell THAT means, to be a religion, it must have some set of relatively well-settled articles of faith which have been organized into a more or less formal, and, in any event, objectively-determined, dogma. I think you have just repudiated most of the world's religions. Good show! Hey! You know me. Always happy to help. I had no idea I was so powerful. Cool beans. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Meaning of ZoneAlarm message?
Thank you for the detailed information. Here is the info: My computer: ipaddress 192.168.1.3; subnet mask 255.255.255.0; default gateway 192.168.1.1 Daughter's computer ipaddress 192.168.1.2; other addresses same. Looking at ZoneAlarm Log Viewer on my computer, each instance is either my computer trying to connect to my daughter's computer thru ports 139 or 138, or daughter's computer trying to connect to my computer on ports 138 or 445. There are also a few pings received from daughter's computer. All are shown to have medium or high risk, but the explanation message says that there is nothing to worry about. I have added one instance to the trusted zone in an attempt to eliminate the messages. The Internet Zone security is set to high, the trusted zone security is set to medium. Daughter plays games on the web, so I ran both Spybot Lavasoft on her computer and removed several hundred items found. Don't know if any of these were dangerous nor that any of them was causing the ZoneAlarm message. Both our computers have AVG and ZoneAlarm. db wrote: A router typically only provides a NAT firewall... the most rudimentary type of firewall ... one that is not difficult to get around. Creating a layered defense by also using a software firewall on your computer is accepted best practice. NetBIOS provides windows file and printer sharing services but can be used for exploits. It could be that your other computer has been compromised and is recruiting You can learn more about the messages by bringing up ZA's control panel and going to: Alert and Logs/ Log Viewer/ and click on one of the logged alerts and then click on More info and then each of the 4 tabs offered there: Overview, Technical Info, Details and Hacker ID. Zone Alarm is particularly good at explaining things if you use these tools. Compare that info with what you learned about your computer's IP addresses by doing the suggested Run/ cmd / ipconfig on all of your computers and you should have more of an idea of what is going on. I'll be curious to know what you find out... Also let us know what level of defense your Zone Alarm is set for the Internet Zone and the Trusted Zone db Tom Piwowar wrote: Why are you using a software firewall behind a router? That sounds like belt and suspenders to me. A software firewall is used when you don't trust others who are on your side of the hardware firewall to have good computer hygiene. * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 11:44 PM 8/3/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this to say the censoring of anything only comes from the religious? I was addressing the forms of censorship that Stewart was discussing. Those are, for the reasons I described, motivated by religious beliefs, on the one hand, and the desire by the proponents of censorship to force you to practice their religion, on the other. I called it an attempt at theocracy. City council in LA just banned the building of any new fast food restaraunts in poorer sections. That's zoning, not censorship. Those opposed to the government policy are free say so. And do. Cities and counties across the US ban smoking in public and private areas. That's a public health issue, not censorship. Those opposed to the government policy are free say so. And do. I don't think there is any religious basis whatsoever for the fairness doctrine which is working it's way up the ladder again in congress. I don't understand the point you are making, since the fairness doctrine CREATES opportunities for speech, rather than foreclosing them. That is a horribly clear example of censorship. To whom is it clear? It ain't clear to me. What about the movement to remove anything resembling unorganized prayer in schools? What about it? I don't think that is religious in nature. Then you haven't been paying attention. The secularists want censorship also, Like what? You haven't given any valid examples. it's just their kind of censorship so it's ok. Nope. If it's censorship, it's not OK. Doesn't matter who. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 08:16 PM 8/3/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a problem with organized religion. What problem is that, Stewart? Please enlighten me. I happen to ADORE both the free exercise and establishment clauses of the First Amendment. Your right and my right to disagree with you. What, specifically, are you disagreeing with? I don't understand this sentence at all. The problem arises when I try and force you to follow my opinion or live by it. It is also a problem when you try and make me live by your opinion. I agree, as a general proposition. I have no intention to make [you] live by [my] opinion. I haven't tried to make you live by my opinion. All societies set their own morals/ethics by majority opinion. No, they don't. Morals, as I said, are always, and exclusively, held by individuals, regardless of what the majority thinks or wants. And sometimes ethics are determined by external realities, and may be highly contextual, again, having nothing to do with the will of the majority. In other instances, what is acceptable ethically is approved of by only a distinct minority, but it is permitted because of other factors. Like the law, for example. The majority opinion in this country is that Jesus died to redeem your sins, and it may be the majority opinion that everybody act in accordance with that article of religious faith. But our laws prohibit that majority opinion being translated into that kind of behavior. Other times, what is desirable behavior by the majority is horribly and inexcusably unethical: Just because an overwhelming majority of Alabamians wanted Rosa Parks to sit in the back of the bus, that didn't make it ethical to put her there. The civil rights struggle was basically requiring majorities to deal with the idea that they DIDN'T decide what was moral and what was ethical. Or, in another view, that what they understood to be a majority, was just the local picture, and the REAL majority was the country seen or taken as a whole. And, there, in that context, the local racist and segregationist behaviors that had, for centuries, been understood as perfectly acceptable, were now not just unethical, but criminal, to boot. Our federal government is supposed to reflect that choice by the laws it passes. This is not always the case and people may disagree with it. I disagree with the supposed to part. They have a number of democratic ideals, and a number of constitutional provisions, to answer to, so, and THOSE take precedence over the opinion of the majority. You can have your set of morals/ethics by which you operate by which is OK. The problem will arise when you try and force your morals/ethics upon someone who disagrees with you. I cannot force you to live by my ethics/morals anymore than you can force me to live by yours. You misunderstand, Stewart. Morals are strictly subjective, and strictly individual, and can't be shared. Therefore, it isn't possible for someone to force his morals on you. What he can do, however, is attempt the unethical act (in a democracy, anyway) of getting the state to require you to behave as he, personally, wants you to behave (as if you were practicing HIS religion, for example). However, whatever your outward behavior, he doesn't control, nor is it possible for him ever to control, the nature of the relationship you have with yourself, which is where your morals are, if they even exist. And whatever ethics there are in the society are those to which you have already, more or less, signed on to, anyway, so there's no need for me to force you to do anything. We see ourselves as part of the same society, the same ethos, because we share so many of the same ethical standards. You behave ethically because you are an ethical person. You ARE an ethical person, aren't you, Stewart? As for your last comment it happens in all institutions. I couldn't agree more. People who live in glass houses, though, is what I was thinking. I can only account for myself, not others just as I would expect you to account for yourself and what you do. You are entirely right about this. In this culture, in this ethos, we understand ourselves to be ethical when we take responsibility for ourselves. To the extent that we have a duty to behave ethically when we deal with others in this culture, in this ethos, Stewart is responsible for Stewart, and Bob is responsible for Bob. I don't need to mind your business or run your life, and you don't need to control mine. You nailed it, Rev. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 03:57 PM 8/4/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct about the fairness doctrine, it has nothing to do with censorship but rather a free market vs government regulated market. I disagree, Mike, because of your use of the term market. The legal philosophy in this country, and nearly all other countries in the world, is that the citizens own the broadcast frequencies, and, therefore, broadcasters have only a license to use, rather than ownership of, those frequencies assigned to them. There exists no right to be a radio or television broadcaster. Part of the license requires broadcasters to obey all applicable laws and provisions of the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations). Which means they must comply with the Fairness Doctrine, inter alia. Thus, the Fairness Doctrine isn't a feature of the market, although it may be an attempt to make use of the airwaves more ethical. We HAVE government regulation of the airwaves because we WANT government regulation of the airwaves. And, in any event, when enough people want there to be a different way of regulating, or not regulating, broadcasters, then we will have in office Congressmen and Senators who will enact different laws and CFR provisions. Which might be a signal that our sense of broadcasting ethics has changed. BTW, I used to be in broadcasting. I was B. A. the D. J. = bathedj. I played great big stacks of red hot wax! Non-stop, back-to-back, heavyweight smashes! Now, here's something to mellow out your morning: It's by Leddd Zeppelin! Let's rock! So, now you know. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 07:07 AM 8/4/2008, John Emmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, Bob, please. As a fellow secularist, I have to point out that this type of confrontational arguing serves to discredit us in the eyes of most US citizens. No, it doesn't. And, even if it did, how would you know? You don't know, and you haven't communicated with, most US citizens. You don't speak for anyone apart from yourself. How's about THAT for confrontational? I submit that to whatever extent I am argumentative and/or confrontational, either, neither, or both, it matters not a tinker's dam to those people (I include non-Americans and non-Christians) who think anyone who doesn't practice their religion is automatically Beelzebub's handmaiden, right out of the gate. Therefore, I choose to be IN YO' FAITH! Please try a different approach. OK. I'll go from confrontational to vulgar: I'll tell them to suck my balls. THAT'S different, isn't it? Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 07:14 AM 8/4/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way some would view secularism as its own religion. Which just goes to show you how desperate some theocrat wannabes can get. In order for secularism, whatever in hell THAT means, to be a religion, it must have some set of relatively well-settled articles of faith which have been organized into a more or less formal, and, in any event, objectively-determined, dogma. I don't think there is even a relatively well-settled understanding of what secularism is and/or entails, never mind a set of articles of faith which a secularist must believe. What, pray tell (Oops! Sorry!), therefore, would constitute secularist dogma? Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 03:43 PM 8/4/2008, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our federal government is supposed to reflect that choice by the laws it passes. This is not always the case and people may disagree with it. I disagree with the supposed to part. They have a number of democratic ideals, and a number of constitutional provisions, to answer to, ... and THOSE take precedence over the opinion of the majority. Just so. Thank you. And mazel tov. Not everybody understands this. I'm glad you do. That is why, for example, it is wrong to suspend habeas corpus even if a large chunk of the population is momentarily in favor of it. I would say that your position is even stronger than you argue it. Article I, §9 permits no such suspension unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it. Public opinion isn't even a consideration. Unfortunately for the Guantánamo detainees, Article I protections are understood to apply to American citizens, and not prisoners of war. Even if habeas corpus isn't available, I would like for there to be at least SOME process by which an independent judiciary can review the detention orders imposed and enforced by the executive branch. I have a great deal of heartburn about an executive branch that doesn't want to be subject to checks and balances. I can't be the ONLY one, can I? The government is not supposed to be sticking a wetted finger into the air every hour to see which way the popular wind is blowing. If we knew what we were doing, we would put into office only those people who could read that stuff on the fly, assuming they hadn't first seen it coming through the Midtown Tunnel. If they HAD seen it, then they could play the parts of leaders. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Meaning of ZoneAlarm message?
For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from 192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages appear 4 or 5 times a day. There is no more information, so I don't know what causes ZoneAlarm to block access, nor what is being blocked, nor whether it is important. Any advice? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Meaning of ZoneAlarm message?
See below. Tom Piwowar wrote: For about 2 weeks I have been getting frequent messages from ZoneAlarm that says it has blocked internet access (NetBIOS session) from 192.168.1.2 (TCP Port 3680), (TCP Flags: S). These messages appear 4 or 5 times a day. 192.168.1.2 is a non-routable address so this is from a computer on your side of the router/firewall. Your router is probably 192.168.1.1. So what is the IP address of your computer and what other devices do you have on the LAN? Do you know their IP addresses? Are you using dynamic or static IP addresses? I don't know enough to answer all your questions. I have a wireless router connected to a cable modem for internet access. Except for an old pocket PC that uses wireless, I have two computers connected to the router via a wire. Both are PCs, and I never established a communication between the two PCs because I don't know how. The Windows XP wizard couldn't make a connection. (Both have Windows XP but one is Home, the other Pro. The Pro one is soon to be sent off to a university with my daughter, despite the urging of that university to get a Mac -- but eventually, not right away.) So, in order to answer your questions: How can I find the IP address of my two computers? How do I determine if dynamic or static IP addresses are being used? Sorry if I am not smarter than I am. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
Beginning: At 08:22 PM 8/2/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can everyone here do me a favor and quit bashing religion. No. When religion deserves not to be bashed, people, generally speaking, I predict, will stop bashing it. But this is America, Stewart. You're perfectly free to characterize yourself, and the articles of faith in which you believe, as somehow victimized. You and they aren't victimized in the slightest. But you're free to suggest that you and they are. Morals are set by society. No, they aren't. Morals and society have nothing to do with each other. Morals, even assuming such a thing exists, color the way someone, individually, deals with himself, how he makes himself behave, what he knows or doesn't know about himself, if anything, and what he decides to believe or disbelieve or admit to himself that he does not know, if anything. If there exists such a thing as morality, it exists solely within the individual. Morality, if it exists, is strictly subjective, and isn't capable of being shared, or objectively appraised, the superstitious beliefs of America's Puritan forefathers to the contrary (i.e., that how one acts shows how moral one is), notwithstanding. Ethics, however, are very much a creature of society, to the extent (which is usually very great) that the society reflects the ethos in which it exists. My guess is that most societies have boundaries that are largely coterminous with the relevant ethos. Ethics, for the purposes of this post, is pretty much how you treat other people. The Golden Rule, for example, is ethics plenipotentiary. The convention seems to be (to me, anyway) that behaving ethically means that you treat others fairly, decently, honestly, justly, reasonably, and equitably. Ethics ARE objectively observable and appraisable, and, most certainly can be, and, in fact, are, shared. Unlike morals and morality. And there is nothing that is necessarily absolute or eternal about what is or isn't ethical. It depends upon the culture, society, or ethos in question. In classical Sparta, it wasn't unethical for young boys in training to be warriors to steal food from the general Spartan agricultural community. Spartans wanted their warriors to be adept at stealth and living off the land. Once you completed your training, however, it became unethical to steal from other Spartans. [If you were in training, and you got caught stealing, you were punished not for attempting to steal, but for getting caught.] And there is nothing that is necessarily coterminous about or between ethics and morality. They are two very distinct and different things, as anyone who read, and understood, Victor Hugo's Les Miserables can tell you: On the two occasions when the bishop lied, where we understand that lying, in our culture, is unethical behavior, was he behaving morally, instead, by saving the life of Valjean, and the lives of Valjean's wife and children? Valjean, himself, engaged in the act of theft, which is generally understood to be unethical, but he did so in order to feed his literally starving children. I think Hugo wants you to ask whether there isn't some sense of what is good, proper, or moral, inside these people that is apart from, or somehow beyond, what otherwise compels them to commit a bad act. And if French literature isn't up your alley, then how about the Sally Field character, in the movie Places In The Heart, lying to protect the Danny Glover character? In any given individual in a society, morals and ethics may overlap, like Venn diagrams, such that one person may perceive it to be a duty to himself (morals) to refrain from cheating or killing his fellow man (ethics). You and I, observing him, can see his ethical behavior (he treats his neighbor with decency and honesty), but we have no way of knowing whether or not HE, PERSONALLY, acts that way out of a sense of morals, even if we imagine (and that's all it is, most of the time, I believe) that WE would be moral if we behaved in the same ethical way. The way I see it, we spend our entire lives trying to find out who we are, and what it is most proper (moral, some say) for us to believe and to do and to treat ourselves, and, if we are very wise and very lucky, we might, just might, by the time we die, begin to figure it all out. We simply aren't wise enough, we aren't smart enough, we aren't knowledgeable or perspicacious enough, even to discern, let alone to sit in judgment of, someone else's morality. Any society has a sense of morals, and taboos set by what the community standard is. No, it doesn't, as I pointed out above. It has a sense of ETHICS, instead, since ethics, and not morality, is what is shared by those in the society. Maybe you think that YOU have a sense of morality, and it requires you to behave this way or that, but, to the extent that you and others in the
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
Conclusion: China which is not a Christian nation has a very strict moral code on what is allowed and what is not. I can give you many examples out there. I don't think there are any examples to give. Just because you, or they, call it a moral code doesn't make it one. Particularly when what is being discussed is how you may or may not treat others. Which is ethics, instead. Most censoring is done for power and control sake, not morality's sake. This obfuscates the issue, since the point of obtaining power is to be able to engage in the wholly unethical practice of imposing on everybody else one's personal articles of faith, whether or not the imposer calls it morals. It's obvious that this is what the Chinese were doing when this thread began. Most of the censoring being done on the Internet right now is not religious based but content based on protecting Children from stuff they should not have (Because some folks do not want to show or exercise any restraint) and also to protect our children from being exploited in a sexual nature. I don't see how you could know what motivates most of anything on the Internet, since you haven't had contact with most of the people who do or say stuff on the Internet. You simply aren't competent to say what motivates anyone apart from yourself, to attempt Internet censorship, unless he or she first tells you. Nobody with two cerebral cortex neurons to rub together is going to object to ANYONE wanting to protect children. However, the censoring to which you refer merely USES that rationalization [by which I mean a true, or ostensibly true or reasonable, statement or description that is not the REAL reason or motivation] to deny this stuff to adults, which is the REAL intent. Most of the content banning seems to be ill placed in my mind, and not reflect a religious moral outrage, but a societal outrage at misuse of the net. This is America, and you're entitled to your opinion, Stewart, but I think you have it exactly wrong. Any societal outrage is necessarily and obviously religious in nature. If it weren't, censors wouldn't feel justified in attempting to control the lives, thoughts, and behaviors of people, other adults, in fact, they will never meet or know. This is, after all, a democracy. The censors you were describing take their perceived strength, and the concomitant arrogance and sanctimoniousness (necessary if they are to ignore or dismiss the democratic protections cloaking those they seek to control), from their claim that they are doing God's work. They seek power in order to require you to practice THEIR religion. But as someone has pointed out banning something is not going to prevent it. Just make it more desirable. Betty [b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED]] said almost exactly that very thing, didn't she? Wasn't there a guy on Jeopardy some years ago who said that his education began when bluenoses attempted to take books like Boccaccio's The Decameron, Huxley's Brave New World, Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five, and a bunch of others, out of his high school library? In response to this, he went to used book stores, and the public library, to read everything the bluenoses tried to exclude. He said he had the time of his life, and discovered how enjoyable it was to read. I bet he had as much fun reading banned books as some people have bashing religion, now that YOU told them to stop. Proper education and self policing is the key. If, and only if, you define proper and self policing in a way that I approve of. Otherwise, how do I know this isn't just code for your wanting me to behave only in ways you select? As for the NY AG, they seem all bent on one thing making a name for themselves at the expense of the people. Many people have exactly the same opinion of the clergy, and other members of church hierarchies. How/Why do you suppose that happened? Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 07:43 PM 8/3/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sociology 101 Morals = Ethics. Extant mammals = Unicorns. I gave you examples of clearly unethical behaviors that might have been moral, assuming morals exist, but, rather than consider them on their merits, such that you could see and/or reflect upon the distinction between morals and ethics, you ignore all of that and rely, instead, on what is clearly, to me, anyway, a falsehood. I can't help it if lots of people got together, including sociology textbook authors and publishers, including the editors and publishers of dictionaries, including those who post, and contribute to, Wikipedia, and agreed among themselves that something is the case when, in reality, it isn't. I submit that aphorisms in the culture like, To thine own self be true, and Be sure you're right, then go ahead, are reminders that (at least some of us in) the culture recognize(s) that morals and ethics are separate and distinct, even if they frequently overlap. The Wikipedia entry specifically said individual conscience, which is where I was going, and it also seemed to limit the scope of morality to what it called matters of right and wrong. But before you can take even two steps down THAT road, someone like me will ask, quite properly, Right and wrong for whom? Right and wrong according to what? Any answer which invokes some commonly held set of beliefs about how we should treat each other, or how we should behave in this culture, yanks you out of morals and shoves you into ethics. BTW, I got an A in Sociology 101 (and also in every other sociology and criminology course I took, which makes me just extra-special, super-duper smart), and my textbook didn't say any such thing. It did, however, talk about the relationship between the members of a society and the ethos which they create. I was encouraged by my professor (1) to separate that which is observable from that which isn't, such that I would (2) not draw conclusions about the relationship a person has with himself, which isn't observable (and isn't even in the field of sociology), from the relationships he has with others, which is observable (and is the nuts and bolts of sociology). It's a real shame that your sociology course/professor didn't require the same intellectual rigor from you that mine demanded of me. 33 years after the fact (Summer session, 1975), I am more in her debt today than I was then. Sociology = The scientific study of human interaction. The relationship a person has with himself, which is where morals lie, assuming they even exist, isn't human interaction, as contemplated by this definition, since interaction means that more than one person must be involved. How a person gets along with himself (morals) isn't the same thing as how he gets along with others (ethics). End of story. Or maybe only the beginning. Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 08:54 AM 8/1/2008, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bluenoses are merely looking for some way to justify hating you... I is not at all limited to sexually explicit material. I agree completely with you, which uses up my Agreement With Tom quota for the decade, but I only addressed that one item since that's what was under discussion. Abortion, under God in the Pledge of Allegiance, prayer in public schools, creationism is science, and so on, are similar attempts at theocracy by elements of the American far right. To them, the United States stands for the right to impose their Christianity on you: In this country, everybody has the freedom to practice MY religion. In the news today we have reports of China's decision to block parts of the Internet from visiting journalists. These are mainly political views being blocked. Why Western journalists, news organizations, and the frigging IOC, already, who are used to the value, meaning and intent of contract law in capitalist cultures and economies would actually believe a Marxist regime, in Asia, populated by people who are interested far more in the value of the personal power they hold under their communist system, than they are in the value or honor of their promises, is just beyond me. I heard an analysis yesterday, of the media access restrictions (on NPR, IIRC), and the analyst called the IOC's trust in the Chinese naive. OTOH, maybe the dude is right. At least, I THINK it was a dude. Yeah. Definitely a dude. Anyway, maybe he had a point, because if Tiananmen Square is an indication of how unimportant human lives, including (or especially) Chinese lives, are to these murderers, just imagine how insignificant to such people a promise (made to the imperialist, counterrevolutionary, and hopelessly bourgeois IOC) of media access is. It must be a great deal of fun for Hu Jintao, and his Beijing Bitch Boys, to micromanage every single ISP in the country, and not have to justify jack shit to anyone about any decision they make. Mel Brooks in a different movie: It's good to be the totalitarian dictator. We have Comcast and possibly now ATT blocking P2P. And the western wear store down the street from me is blocking my hat. Coincidence? I don't THINK so. Last night I was at Home Depot and found the store's parking lot plastered with No Loitering signs as well as signs in Spanish that claimed the parking lot was now under video surveillance. So, Tom. What were you doing loitering at the Home Despot? Bob Electricity comes from electrons. Morality comes from morons. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 02:32 PM 8/2/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed..so we should allow the posting of 50 year old men having sex with nine year old boys? Interesting image. How/Why did you come up with it? Have you ever actually seen anything like that? Do you know anyone who has? How can you tell the ages of people in a .jpeg, anyway? Is the image a true photograph, or is it a Photoshopped amalgam of pixels depicting an event that never occurred? [My guess is that you have no idea whatsoever of the great number of obscenity prosecutions that have gone down in flames because the law prohibited photographs of minors having sex, or appearing unclad, but not images that were made to LOOK LIKE photographs, but weren't.] I can't speak for Tom, but I'm not sure his Censorship is always wrong is the same thing as First Amendment absolutism, in the first place (because of the possibility that he was speaking in generalities, however broad, rather than in the absolute), but, even if that's what he thought it meant, I also don't think he believes that limiting the prospect that such images as you describe would fall under the gaze of kids who might not be able, psychologically or emotionally, to handle them in some healthy fashion is a reasonable goal of the law, in the second. Free speech no matter what? Kinda. Even with a law restricting the Internet dissemination of the images you describe, people who want the freedom to create or look at those sorts of images are still free to engage in speech which argues the point that the law which restricts them is bad. As long as you obey the parade and sidewalk-blocking regulations, you can carry your Kiddie Porn Now! banner or sign down Main Street. Just as you can lobby publicly for legalization of marijuana in jurisdictions where its possession, use, and sale are criminal acts. Duuude. If that were true we would have no laws about libel or slander. That is entirely false, and, unfortunately, demonstrates your unfamiliarity with the subject matter about you are nevertheless attempting to opine. Defamation laws are on the books precisely because we DON'T have censorship, at least, not in the form of prior restraint of defamatory remarks. People are free as hell to libel and slander you, and you are powerless to shut them up. You can't even shut them up if they tell you two weeks in advance that they are going to run a story (completely false, of course) that you were having sex with nine year-old boys. You can show a judge the letter which contains the warning, and ask him to enjoin the publication of the story. The judge will tell you to take a hike. The law permits the story to run, and then you sue for libel. That's the way this deal goes down in the Newnited Stakes. I suppose we should repeal those laws as well. Why? With those laws, if someone says or prints something false about you, BECAUSE THE LAW PROHIBITS IT FROM BEING CENSORED, and your reputation and/or your earnings are damaged, you can sue him or her to make you whole, to compensate you for your loss. But NOBODY gets censored. Just because the other guy's falsehoods can't be kept out of publication, that doesn't mean there aren't consequences to him for his speaking or printing defamatory falsehoods about you. Civilized society would be much more...civilized. You're being ironic, aren't you? Hey, everybody! He's just being ironic, isn't he? Huh? Bob Jaco Pastorius: Bo be boo bop doo bay. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Puritans at the helm...
At 06:49 PM 7/31/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't that settled by Potter Stewart who said, I can't define it but I know it when I see it!! I don't think anyone with an adult level of cultural and sociological sophistication (which, if you trust most of the opinions of those who knew him well, did not include Stewart) would consider anything, except an affirmation of Stewart's lack of familiarity with parts of the culture that he, personally, did not inhabit, settled by that aphorism. The aphorism is really Stewart being arrogant, in the most unflattering semantic sense of the word, since it presupposes that there is something absolute about smut, pornography (whatever THAT means), and/or obscenity, as the law defines it, when there has never been any evidence that whether something is or is not one of those things is anything other than entirely subjective, and Stewart is declaring that he knows what it is. In fact, the legal definition of obscenity, as enacted by most of the States, uses a test which asks the jury to find whether or not the material on trial appeals, in the average John Q. Public, to a prurient (which is usually defined as shameful or morbid) interest in sex, among other things. The problem is that the average person doesn't HAVE a prurient interest to which ANYTHING can appeal, no matter how many tits or pubic hairs the material describes or shows. The average person has a normal and healthy interest in things sexual and erotic. I am, of course, willing to make allowances for people on this list, however. My point is that the deck is already stacked. Stewart doesn't know jack shit about erotic material, in any absolute sense. Nobody does, including a criminal petit jury, I submit, because there is nothing absolute about it to know. It's all strictly subjective, and that makes the obscenity laws (which falsely and erroneously presuppose that there is something objectively appraisable about it) irrational and, therefore, perverse themselves. The bluenoses are merely looking for some way to justify hating you, if you like sexually explicit material, since your enjoyment of this stuff reminds them of how terrified they are of it, and of their own respective sexual natures, and/or the sexual natures of other adults. Reminding them of how terrified they are means they are so pissed off at you that they can't, and no longer want to, think straight. The obscenity laws, and arrogant aphorisms, are merely products of those who are so terrified and/or angry that they can't think straight. I mean, how ridiculous and irrational do you have to be to see it as a priority of some kind to control what all the adults in the whole world can and cannot see privately, on their home computers? ...not many are aware it was a case of a certain piece of film (which was shown in the supreme court chamber) ...Stewart further added, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. Too late! The damage was already done. Bob 2 + 2 = 5, for very large values of 2. OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Problem with Zonealarm
I was away for 3 weeks, and when yesterday I booted up my two PC computers at home, Windows XP did an update. Now I am unable to connect to the internet unless I shut off Zone Alarm. This is on both computers. Any advice for fixing this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] When to buy a new PC?
I have an older Dell XPS Gen 2 computer with Windows XP Home --3 GHz Pentium 4, 1 Meg DDRAM, about 1.5 terabytes disk drives, about 250 GB internal: the rest external. Very, very many applications, most used frequently. These include graphics, video processing, mathematical processing (e.g., Matlab), but not many video games. I've noticed that the computer has slowed down a lot from the original purchase 5 years ago. The main reason for slow down is (I think) the disk drives. The internal disk drives are all SATA (about 250 GB). Mostly I have to wait for the drives to complete operation to get a response on any application, such as browser or word processor. I have already checked to see if disk caching, SMART, and disc test software can find a problem, but these report none. If I buy a new computer, will the disk delay be expected to improve significantly? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Just another cell phone service question
http://www.workingassets.com/FAQs.aspx They are reselling Sprint: http://www.workingassets.com/FAQs.aspx So reliability / coverage should be identical with Sprint. On the plus side, you don't have to deal with Sprint's customer service. -Robert -Original Message- From: Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:39pm To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Just another cell phone service question Have any of you used the Credo (formerly Working Assets) cellular network? What are your impressions of it's reliability? Thanks Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] T1 vs DSL?
A a 64K data stream would consume less than 1% of a slow Ethernet (10 Mbps) LAN. So providing good VIOP in house would be no problem. The capacity problem only happens on the WAN. Not necessarily... any two modern computers copying a large file over a LAN can easily saturate a 10 or 100Mbps LAN (at least point to point). Bigger VOIP installations typically implement traffic prioritization (which is one of the reasons Cisco loves them), but I expect that if you were careful about your LAN layout in a small business it would be fine. So I'm thinking that a system that uses IP in house with the option of connecting to either the PSTN or an IP network would be the wisest thing to shop for today. FWIW- When I was a small biz IT consultant I had 4 different clients in the last 3 years in the 10-30 employee range go through a diligent phone system selection process (which I was not involved with). All of them considered the typical VOIP systems offered to the small business market. One chose an Avaya VOIP system, the others all went with traditional NEC systems. There were two features that sold the one client on VOIP: the ability to inexpensively host their own conference calls (they were an NGO and had been paying a fortune for international conference calling) and the ability to place fully-functional extensions at remote locations that connected to the office system via Internet. None of the other organizations had a particular need for either of these features, and considered the VOIP systems to be more expensive and relatively untested. The NEC systems have been completely reliable. Getting back to T1, I didn't read the whole thread, but would suggest an alternative to T1 that is more reliable, faster, and far cheaper: a DSL and a cable connection together. This provides complete redundancy, with no shared infrastructure between the two carriers, and there are several SMB firewalls / routers that have two WAN ports and can do *outbound* load balancing for Internet traffic even on low-end connections with dynamically-assigned IP. My favorite is the Snapgear SG560, but Sonicwall also does this well (with appropriate upgrades). -Robert * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?
I ran the upgrade adviser and it shows only 15 of my applications won't work with Vista -- better than I had expected. There were no device problems except for Bluetooth which won't work with Vista. Chris Dunford wrote: I haven't tried Vista yet, but I think one problem might be that some software doesn't work for Vista as it does for XP I use a LOT of software and have had almost no trouble. A couple of things had to run in XP compatibility mode and a couple more needed updates (which were free in the specific cases I ran into). I had only one app that wouldn't work at all and was not going to be updated (a system registry monitor--geeky stuff) but it was easily replaced by another free program. I'd like to see a list of software that doesn't work with Vista. MS has a free Upgrade Advisor that will identify problem software on your system: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradea dvisor.mspx * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Forced to Vista?
mike wrote: Does anyone know why anyone wants to avoid vista on new machines? What is the problem? Mike I haven't tried Vista yet, but I think one problem might be that some software doesn't work for Vista as it does for XP. I'd like to see a list of software that doesn't work with Vista. I'm not talking about upgrading to the latest version of software to solve this problem. If one has only a few applications such as commonly found at a worksite, upgrading is not such a problem especially if the work provides the upgrades. But if one has hundreds of applications at home, some of them costing $500 -- $1000 apiece, getting the latest version just to be able to run them on a new OS is a definite problem. On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that Dell will stop taking orders for XP equipped PCs on the 18th (this Wed). I also read that some Dell PCs can no longer be downgraded to XP because there are no XP drivers for some components (sound cards, NICs, etc). So after failing to take over Yahoo are we going to be the next recipients of MS tenderness? Are we experiencing a hostile takeover this week? Does anyone have a strategy for avoiding Vista? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages
I got only six of the nine SATA messages, and I am using Cox. Jeff Wright wrote: To update on the piss-poor spam filtering that Comcast is using, it continues with a new twist. I'm getting *some* messages on threads, but not all at times. For instance, Tony's thread on SATA drivers, I only got 6 of the 9 messages, which explained my confusion as to who Tony was replying to. I see all the messages in my Gmail inbox, so maybe that's the solution. I haven't had the time nor inclination to deal with Comcast's support. But I hate Gmail's insistence on displaying all messages in a thread as a collapsed conversation, rather than individual messages in a linear format. I wouldn't mind so much if you had the option to do either, but it's Google's way or the highway. So, I have to choose: craptacular mail service or poor interface design choices. :::sigh::: And no, I don't need *another* email address. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Test
I'm getting no messages since May 29. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] how to configure Windows XP to share files, printers?
My Zone Alarm version is 7.0.470 Larry Sacks wrote: Ok...there's a couple of issues here. I'll respond some now and more later... What version of ZoneAlarm do you have? I've got it at home and in case they're the same (or close) I might be able to tell you exactly what to do. But the basic problem is ZoneAlarm is blocking the connections. If you want to disable it but don't want to open your computers to the outside world, just disconnect the Ethernet cable that goes between your cable modem and your router. Sure, you won't be able to surf the web, but at least you won't have to worry about anything coming down the pipe... But until you either disable it or change the settings in it, you're not going to be able to share data between your systems. Mo' later... Larry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] how to configure Windows XP to share files, printers?
Roy Ackerman,Ph.D.,P.Ch.E.,E.A. wrote: Professional or Home? Home is flaky- professional works just fine. One computer has Windows XP Home, the other Professional. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] how to configure Windows XP to share files, printers?
Thank you very much for the detailed instructions. I plan to try them tomorrow. But as of now (not turning the zone alarm firewall off), I don't see any place to click as you suggest in My Network Places. My computer is the one with Windows XP Home. In My Network Places, I see two folders shown in the Internet pane. These are (C) on my computer's name and DownloadFile on my computer's name. Clicking on the link View Network Connections I see a dialup connection, an Internet Gateway connection, and four LAN or High Speed Internet connections: (1) Local Area Connection Connected, (2) and (3) 1394 Connections, and (4) Bluetooth Network (cable unplugged). Clicking on View Workgroup Computers there is only my computer listed. I do not see a link to View Entire Network nor a link to Microsoft Windows Network. BTW, after I ran Network Setup Wizard on my computer, each time I tried to access a web page from FF browser, the dialup connection or the Bluetooth connection would try to be opened at random instead of my cable connection (from the router). I had to restore the system to stop this behavior. Yes, I turned off the Windows firewall after using the wizard. Larry Sacks wrote: I'm going to be to differ with this statement. Home and Professional are really similar. The main difference for networking is Home doesn't recognize a domain whereas Professional does. Also, home doesn't require a password for an account, but Professional does, but even these problems can be overcome too. You've already done the first - made sure both computers are in the same workgroup. So, let's go to the next thing: 1. Is the Windows Firewall turned on? If it is, turn it off on both systems. -- (Go to Control Panel, o If it's in Category View, double-click Security Center, o Click to Manage Settings for Windows Firewall and click the radio button next to Off (not recommended) o If it's in Classic View, double-click Windows Firewall and click the radio button next to Off (not recommended) 2. If Windows Firewall is already off, check your anti-virus software (you are running anti-virus software, aren't you?) and turn off the firewall - McAfee and Symantec (Norton) both call it their Personal Firewall (IIRC). Yes, turning off the firewall could be bad but it's probably also what's preventing both computers from seeing each other since the A/V or Firewall software considers each computer a threat and prevents them from talking to each other. If that fixes it, then poke around in the settings for the Firewall. There should be a setting to identify a network as a home or trusted network and allow traffic. If you know the IP address range for your router, you can set it to allow IPs in that range to have access. (See the next paragraph to figure out your IP address - if you already know, just skip to the paragraph following that) To find out your IP address: o Click Start/Run and enter CMD and click OK o This is the Command prompt or the DOS prompt (even though that's technically an incorrect term). The prompt will be something like C:\Documents and Settings\your username o Type: ipconfig and press ENTER o You'll get about 6 lines on the screen. The line you're most interested in is IP Address. It'll probably be something like 192.168.0.2 o Do this on both computers. Make a note of both and then type: o exit and press the enter key on both systems. That will exit you from the Command prompt. Once you've got your IP addresses, then you should set the firewall software on both systems to ignore traffic from systems in those IP address ranges. Or, if you think you're going to add more computers in the future, make the address range good for say 10 computers - such as 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.12 . Once this is done, try going to My Network Places, Click on Entire Network and then Microsoft Windows Network. Give it a few minutes because it has to refresh from the master browser. If it still doesn't work, try this: 3. Are the username and password the same on both computers? If not, when you go to access one computer from the other, you'll be prompted for the username and password. XP Home doesn't require a password, but XP Professional does. You can either hack the registry to remove that requirement (not all that hard) or just change your user account on the XP Home system and put the *same* password onto that account. Give these steps a try and let us know what happens Larry * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] how to configure Windows XP to share files, printers?
I've spent some time Googling but can't find an answer. I have two computers that access the internet via a wired router that is connected to a cable modem. I want to share files between the two computers, and a printer. I have run Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on both computers, but I cannot see either computer from the other's My Network Places. In fact, I had to run System Restore on one of the computers after running the Setup Wizard because it messed up the connection to the internet. Is there a web site that actually tells how to do this? The very many that I have viewed simply explain the hardware needed or the various configurations of connections, not the Windows setup procedure. BTW, both computers report an existing network name MSHOME * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] tool size
Tony B wrote: I suppose I really should know better than to question the size of someone's tools. Were this a carpentry list, and I dared suggest those with smaller hammers were just as productive as those with bigger ones, I imagine the small firestorm from a very few people would be about the same. And god forbid I suggest those with TWO hammers weren't outproducing those with only one. But where would it end? Surely the guys with THREE hammers would be deeply offended at any suggestion they weren't any better than the guys with only two! Tony, I have never, ever, debated you on any of your posts even if I disagreed with any. I think that you provide a different view that ought to be considered even tho some will disagree. But your hammer analogy is flawed. I saying this only, not anything else. I am both an amateur carpenter and an amateur clockmaker (actually, an engineer by profession). I know by personal experience that a hammer has a specific use, and the choice of a wrong one will be at least be an inconvenience and at most a disaster. Consider carpentry: first imagine hammering a hardened nail into brick, then a nail into wood, then a nail into drywall, then a nail in a piece of fine furniture. The nails are different sized, different hardness, different shaped. The hammer needed to drive the nails are different. Next, imagine hammering a post or a gear (commonly called a wheel) in a mechanical clock. Will the same-sized hammer for a brick nail suffice for a delicate clock? Never! My clock hammer head (which is used sparingly) weights about 2 ounces, has two flat sides with one side made of brass and the other with teflon. I use the brass mostly to open a mainspring container on an European clock (the container has a gear on the base that drives both the going and strike train); it is possible to use the either the brass or teflon-faced hammer to rebush a pivot in the old style. An American clock has a bare mainspring that needs a C-clamp to remove it (a dangerous operation) but does not require a hammer. A hammer is sometimes needed to free a sticky front or back plate posts or a few other things. Usually a hammer is is not needed since there is a wide variety of specialized tools for clockmaking. So, different hammers for different folks! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] kaspersky?? is it safe - is it better than Norton
As a small business and home PC consultant (until earlier this year), I installed Kaspersky for many, many clients, and for the most part was pleased with it. Certainly didn't see any signs of mob activity! And it was quite effective at cleaning up infected machines. It is a vast improvement over Norton. More recently I've been using and recommending NOD32 from Eset. It's had a long history as a geeks AV, as it is very efficient (doesn't slow down the system very much) and has better heuristic detection than many that has resulted in it running away with certain AV bake-offs that prioritize the newest threats. It was also geek-only due to a notoriously unfriendly UI, but the most recent version is much improved, and is in several ways easier to use than Kaspersky. Both have free trials- I would suggest you give either / both a spin (not at the same time!!!) and purchase the one you like. -Robert -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony B Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:23 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] kaspersky?? is it safe - is it better than Norton I currently use Kaspersky. Relatively unobtrusive. A 10 seat business license is about $380/3 years. I *did* have trouble with the malware components on my test machine (too obtrusive), so have selected the install option 'anti virus only' when deploying. I can't address the question if they might be owned or even influenced by the Russian mob. They've been around for years, if that assures you at all. And I imagine even the mobs need safe computers! On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Michael Drabick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to renew a couple of computers AV software currently on Norton AV. After reading CNET's review of Norton ( it is a pig, 300MB in size and monopolizes 258MB of memory) I was thinking of switching to Kaspersky. Any thoughts would be appreciated. McAfee is not on my list because it is a pain. I have used AVG, but the user interface leaves much room for improvement. My biggest concern is that this is a Russian company, and it just seems odd to me that the CNET best rated security software is from a country where the Russian Mob extorts money from virtually every business. Somehow I get the uncomfortable feeling that they are some how involved in this and stand to profit greatly. When you go to the Media Contacts on their website, it puzzles me that every worldwide office has a mailing address except the Headquarters. Their contact information does give an address in Moscow as their Headquarters. Please tell me I am just being paranoid, and that this is safe software. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cash in the EU
rlsimon wrote: Does anyone know if the best way to get spending cash in the EU while on travel from the US is to use a bank card or charge card at an ATM as far as rate of exchange, etc.?? IMHO, ATM and debit cards are the best way to convert, followed by credit cards. Credit cards may charge a fee per transaction; this fee varies according to who owns the credit card. But be aware that not all locations in Europe will accept these. I go yearly to a small village on the French Riviera (the Bay of Saint Tropez) that has no ATM machines. The banks in the region have never heard of an ATM card, nor the tourist office. My NRL Federal Credit Union ATM card is worthless there. This year I am taking a debit card from both my bank and my credit union. Another anomaly is traveler's checks. I cashed my traveler's checks at the village French post office on the last trip without a problem. But when I went to Paris, the traveler's checks wouldn't be accepted by the French post office since they were Visa traveler's checks, not American Express. But Paris has ATM card machines. One question I would like to know the answer to: what is the daily limit on withdrawal from a bankcard machine? Since I must pay in cash to rent a villa immediately upon arrival in the villa (and later, to rent an apartment in Vienna, Austria), I might need to bring Euros with me if that limit is less than the rental payment. * You didn't ask but: check the US State Department for travel advisories for the places that you are going. Four years ago I was robbed of money in the village. (The villa that I rented was the entire top floor of a mansion surrounded by a wrought-iron fence. All windows had bars except the top floor. In the night while my daughters were sleeping a burglar climbed onto the roof, swung down into their bedroom window, seized all valuables, and threw them to the ground four stories below. Thankfully, most of the stolen money was traveler's checks which were replaced in Paris.) Afterwards, one daughter continued to India where she was robbed twice more. In the case of southern France, the state department advises that vehicles keep all windows rolled up while traveling because motorcyclists may grab purses and other valuables thru an open window when stopped for a traffic light and then they speed off. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cash in the EU
rlsimon wrote: On purchases, I get a rebate, yes. But, alas, not for withdrawal of cash at an atm. I have the option of doing a wire transfer to my family member's bank there but I don't know if the rate will be a wholesale conversion rate like with the credit/atm cards or another less advantageous rate...??? - At my commercial bank, a wire transfer cost about $45 for each transfer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cash in the EU
b_s-wilk wrote: snip We had to pay cash for an apartment we rented for a few weeks last summer. Took three days to come up with 900 euros, since the clown ATMs wouldn't give us more than 200 euros each day, and we had three different credit cards but, the clown bank ATM wouldn't take my Chase MC. Betty If this is the case, I have no choice but to convert to Euros here to take with me for my first rental. I'm staying in the same villa but there is a new owner who employs a realty company that demands full payment before I get the key to the villa. I must have about 500 Euros a few hours after my plane arrives in Nice, France. What is the best way to convert dollars to Euros here? I dwell in Northern Virginia. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Help to Make a PDF with a Small File Size
Send it via YouSendIt.com http://www.yousendit.com/ Alvin Auerbach wrote: I've made a Real Estate Fact Sheet PDF for my GF, which looks nice but is too large to email to her. The first page has five color photos and weighs in at 25 MB. My tools are a G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.5.2, AppleWorks, and GraphicConverter. Somehow, even though I've tried to bring down the file size of the photos to about 400KB each in GC, pasting them into AW and using the iMac Print function to create the PDF, the file size seem to ballon up. What am I doing wrong? How can I bring the total PDF file size down to 10MB or less, so that I can email the file to her and she can print it? If I don't do this, it may affect our relationship! : ( Thanks in advance, Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Crash dump on Vista
Well, I am ignorant, so I will post my opinion. I don't have Vista but Windows XP instead. I get a blue screen about once a month. I don't bother with waiting for the save feature -- 140 pages, can't remember. I just reboot the computer and everything is OK until the next blue screen. Computer freezing is more frequent, no one software that I can see is to blame. Maybe 2 or 3 times a week I need to reboot XP. This situation is much better than with earlier versions of Windows. My previous OS was Windows ME and I had to reboot maybe every half hour. So, I am not too concerned with the current Windows problems. (For you people that think there is a hardware problem, the same situation occurred on several different computers.) Sorry I can't give better analysis of your Windows problem. Terry Kilburg wrote: Every few weeks, I get the blue screen notifying me of a crash dump. Maybe the computer has diarrhea:) Anyway, it restarts the computer. Why is it done and is it necessary? Here are the details- BlueScreen OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1033 Additional information about the problem: BCCode: 10b8 BCP1: 87421170 BCP2: 92C8CD78 BCP3: 8740E000 BCP4: OS Version: 6_0_6000 Service Pack: 0_0 Product: 768_1 Files that help describe the problem: C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini041308-01.dmp C:\Users\Kilburg\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-59966-0.sysdata.xml C:\Users\Kilburg\AppData\Local\Temp\WER4088.tmp.version.txt Read our privacy statement: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=50163clcid=0x0409 Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor! 563-872-3788 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Good web source for still images
I know that there are a few photographers graphic designers here, so this is a question. What is the best way to locate still images on the web? I have used searches on Google images and Alta Vista images; sometimes one is better than the other, but they are not consistently better. Is there a search engine that is best of all for locating images? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] bittorrent with Opera
I was intrigued with several earlier posts here, first about free movie downloads in public domain and then about bittorrent. So I decided to investigate. I found a web site that said that the web browser Opera supported bittorrent, so I went to a web site that had free downloads with bittorrent and tried to download one of them using Opera. Downloading started after a message from Opera that bittorrent required permitting uploading the same file once it was downloaded, then asked for permission, and asked for limits to upload download speed -- I selected no limit. Didn't matter to me what the content of the bittorrent file was, just trying to see how it worked. The download began of a 105 MB bittorrent file with an expected download time of 7 hours. The estimate has changed, after about 15 minutes, to 3 hours. I am connected with Cox cable to the internet. Questions: Does Opera actually support bittorrent? If so, why such a long time to download? A 105 MB file would download in very much less time without bittorent. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] classic movie downloads
Tony B wrote: I was helping a neighbor with her new broadband today and she's into classic movies. So I started telling her about the internet. But everything we could scare up on a Google search seems to want you to watch stuff on their site. Is anyone aware of any sites that are geared toward downloading and burning DVDs? I'm not talking about warez here; just public domain classic movies. I'm curious to know what movies are in the public domain. Copyright lasts 90 years, so these movies would be made before 1918, the silent era. If a silent movie were remade with a music track added, then the copyright begins at the date of the remake. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] can't view YouTube -- ubuntu and gnucash
Tom Piwowar wrote: Bad news. Your browser test looks almost exactly like mine and nothing looks wrong. I have an older version of Shockwave (10.1 vs. 10.2) and newer version of QuickTime (7.04 vs. 7.2) than you do. That does not explain your YouTube problem. Does anyone see anything amiss in this report? BTW, YouTube uses Flash to play videos. That is why I am focusing on your Flash settings. What happens when you go to the Flash test page? www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ I see the flash window animation OK. The shockwave player region is blank. When I first visited the site, a message said that the computer had to be rebooted to install shockwave player. I rebooted and the web site reported that the shockwave player was successfully installed. Still blank for shockwave player. I then downloaded shockwave player and installed. Still blank. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] can't view YouTube -- was ubuntu and gnucash
As I mentioned in previous messages, I can't see any YouTube videos or flashes but can view flash from other sites. As an addendum, I am unable to use the travel site SideStep http://www.sidestep.com/ because it works OK until the search is completed and the results to be displayed disappear from view. Having already cleared the cookies cache from Firefox, I now want to try to uninstall both JavaScript and Adobe ShockWave Player and then reinstall (and running a registry cleaner before reinstall). How do I remove JavaScript? (I have already Googled this question without help.) Windows XP Add or Remove Programs shows the following installed: J2 SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 1 J2 SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 10 J2 SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 11 J2 SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 6 Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2 Java(TM) 6 Update 2 Java(TM) 6 Update 3 Java(TM) 6 SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 1 Adobe Atmosphere Player for Acrobat and Adobe Reader Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Adobe Flash Player Plugin Adobe PhotoDeluxe Home Edition 4.0 Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0 Adobe Reader 8.1.2 Adobe Reader Chinese Traditional Fonts Adobe Reader for Pocket PC 2.0 Adobe Shockwave Player Removing Shockwave Player is obvious, but what about the Java listings for removal? All or some? I am listing above all Java Adobe software installed on my computer that is recognized by Add and Remove Programs. The software executables pertaining to Java that I have downloaded saved for installation are: install_flash_player.exe and Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash
I can't view this link. The message says that either JavaScript is turned off or I have an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Downloaded latest version, still same message. How to I check to see if Java Script is turned off? Using Firefox with Windows XP. Jeff Wright wrote: Did someone say food fight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-yldqNkGfo * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash
I found out how to enable JavaScript using the You Tube help. It was already enabled. I still can't see this video nor any other video on YouTube. What's wrong? Jeff Wright wrote: Did someone say food fight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-yldqNkGfo * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] can't view YouTube -- was ubuntu and gnucash
It seems that it is only YouTube that I can't view flash videos. I went to several other sites with flash video and Mozilla Firefox plays them all. I have searched Google for a cause but can find no link that might explain why the YouTube message that either JavaScript is turned off or I have an old flash player. I have installed the latest flash player and checked to see that JavaScript is running. I can't see YouTube videos with any other browser nor when I turn my firewall off. Any suggestions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] can't view YouTube -- ubuntu and gnucash
Tom, Thanks for your reply. First, I guess that YouTube is showing a video, not a flash, that I can't view. But none of the videos nor the flash files can I view on YouTube, but I can view both on other sites. I visited your link, below, and got this result: 1 Browser type and version Firefox 2.0.0.12 2 Browser build Not detectable with this browser 3 Platform WinXP 4 Cookies supported true 5 Cookies enabled Session = true / Persistent = true 6 JavaScript supported true 7 JavaScript enabledtrue 8 ActiveX enabled false 9 VBScript enabled false 10 Java applets supported true 11 Java applets enabled Enabled 12 Java Version 1.6.0_03 13 Java Vendor Sun Microsystems Inc. 14 Screen size 1280 x 1024 15 Browser size 1280 x 858 16 Connection type Not detectable with this browser 17 Connection speed 16606965 bits/sec (2027.22 KBytes/sec) 18 Color depth 16.77 Million Colors (32-bit True Color) 19 FlashVersion 2 (Version 9.0 r115) 20 ShockwaveInstalled (Version 10.2) 21 MediaPlayer Installed (Version # Not detectable with this browser) 22 RealPlayer RealPlayer 10 installed (build 6.0.12.1662) 23 Acrobat Not tested by default 24 QuickTimeInstalled (Version 7.0.4) 25 Browser time Friday, March 21, 2008 9:12:15 PM 26 Time zone diff You are 3.0 hours ahead 27 Popup BlockedBlocked == The above appears as a table in HTML before I send it -- I don't know what it looks like in text in case html is stripped from this listserv message. The only false entries are: ActiveX, VBScript; Popup blocked, and Flash version 2 (Version 9.0 r115). I'm not smart enough to recognize what else might be wrong. Tom Piwowar wrote: I found out how to enable JavaScript using the You Tube help. It was already enabled. I still can't see this video nor any other video on YouTube. What's wrong? Most web sites that depend on Flash will employ some form of testing to see if your setup meets their minimum requirements. Sometimes this test will give the wrong result because something other than Flash is out of kilter. I suggest using a browser test site to see what the server sees when it looks at your browser. It may lead you to what is amiss. http://browsertest.essentialtalk.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Music from Minidisc to PC
You don't say what model minidisc you have. The latest models of Sony minidiscs can transfer files directly to the PC via a USB cable. The Sony software that comes with the minidisc is called SonicStage. It is essentially a drag-and-drop operation to transfer minidisc file between PC and minidisc. As an option, an encoded minidisc track can be converted to wav format. Some of the other features of the latest models: record time ranges from about 7 hours to 40 hours per disk depending on compression desired, can record without compression (84 minutes), rechargeable battery life is 15 hours, the battery is charged via USB cable whenever it is connected to the PC, mp3 files can be transferred and played by the minidisc, and editing of the minidisc tracks can be done on the PC. Robert Michael Abrams wrote: Before I go to Best Buy or Circuit City with this issue, I'd like to bounce it off folks who I trust to give me reasonable answer, if they have one, and who will say so if they don't. Here goes: I run WinXP (SP2, IIRC) and have RealPlayer 11.01 (Build 6.0.14.794, but who's counting?), and I want to be able to use either the digital or analog outputs (digital would necessarily be better, but that isn't critical) of a Sony MD to get music from MiniDisc tracks onto my PC's hard drive (ideally into RealPlayer, but that isn't necessarily critical, unless, of course, it is, and I just don't know it), and in a form that can be read and played by RealPlayer. My fantasy, and that's all it is, is that there is a device which can connect to an/the MD output/s, on one end, and, on the other, there is a USB plug, or something equally Joseph-proof. Or, a device which connects either or both of the MD outputs to the input banana plugs in back of my Dell Dimension, might also do the trick, assuming such a thing exists. I also have a CO2 (coaxial/optical two-directional) convertor (44K) that I have already used (6 or 7 years ago, and not since) with the MD's analog outputs, but I have no idea if it will, does, or should work with the PC. Also, I am willing to read up on the subject, if that will result in an appropriate fix, so if any of you can tell me of a Transferring MiniDisc Tracks To Your PC Media Player For Dummies, then I'd be grateful to you. And thanks in advance, in any event, for any time or attention you pay to this item. Oh, and, BTW, none of YOU are in my fantasies, just yet, anyway, but, for an easily affordable processing fee, I'm certain that satisfactory arrangements can be made to meet your needs. We finance. Bob Hey, yo, hepty-doop! OK End * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Music from MiniDisc to PC
At 11:44 PM 3/11/2008, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot about Audacity...good free program also. I downloaded Audacity 1.2.6 (rather than the ß-version upgrade), and will try to install it later today. Thanks very much for the suggestions in your previous post. I'm interested in RealPlayer because I'm familiar with it (for the most part, I'm relatively unfamiliar with PC audio software) and I know how to use RealPlayer to compile and burn CD's that will play in both my Pioneer and my Kenwood CD players. It was free. Otherwise, I'm not emotionally or financially committed to it. I hope I answered you. Thanks again for your ideas and efforts. Bob Hey, yo, hepty-doop! OK End -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Music from Minidisc to PC
Before I go to Best Buy or Circuit City with this issue, I'd like to bounce it off folks who I trust to give me reasonable answer, if they have one, and who will say so if they don't. Here goes: I run WinXP (SP2, IIRC) and have RealPlayer 11.01 (Build 6.0.14.794, but who's counting?), and I want to be able to use either the digital or analog outputs (digital would necessarily be better, but that isn't critical) of a Sony MD to get music from MiniDisc tracks onto my PC's hard drive (ideally into RealPlayer, but that isn't necessarily critical, unless, of course, it is, and I just don't know it), and in a form that can be read and played by RealPlayer. My fantasy, and that's all it is, is that there is a device which can connect to an/the MD output/s, on one end, and, on the other, there is a USB plug, or something equally Joseph-proof. Or, a device which connects either or both of the MD outputs to the input banana plugs in back of my Dell Dimension, might also do the trick, assuming such a thing exists. I also have a CO2 (coaxial/optical two-directional) convertor (44K) that I have already used (6 or 7 years ago, and not since) with the MD's analog outputs, but I have no idea if it will, does, or should work with the PC. Also, I am willing to read up on the subject, if that will result in an appropriate fix, so if any of you can tell me of a Transferring MiniDisc Tracks To Your PC Media Player For Dummies, then I'd be grateful to you. And thanks in advance, in any event, for any time or attention you pay to this item. Oh, and, BTW, none of YOU are in my fantasies, just yet, anyway, but, for an easily affordable processing fee, I'm certain that satisfactory arrangements can be made to meet your needs. We finance. Bob Hey, yo, hepty-doop! OK End -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Music from MiniDisc to PC
A friend of mine on another list came up with these links: http://www.sweetadelines.org.uk/docs/how_to_minidisc.pdf http://forums.minidisc.org/ Even though I'm still open to any other suggestions, the first link might just do the trick, and the second seems like a nice resource. Thanks to everyone who even LOOKED at my previous post. Bob Hey, yo, hepty-doop! OK End -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] More trouble about my daughter's computer
I have posted here before about my college student daughter giving her desktop computer to my high-school student because the college student got a MacBook Pro. The desktop was a local custom build PC. It has Windows XP Pro OS. Strange things are happening with the new computer. (The college student added several programs to the computer.) (1) You would think that the internal hard drive of 240 GB would be enough for a college student, but in fact almost all the drive space is used up in video audio files. In order to make a backup, I added an external (USB) hard drive of 200 GB. Whenever I try to boot the computer with the hard drive connected, it won't boot, saying that it is trying to boot from the CD drive. When I switch off the external hard drive, it boots. I can't find a way to go into the bootup menu to see why this is happening. Any suggestions for going to the bootup or BIOS menu? (2) When I try to back up drive D: (drive C: and drive D: are on the same 160 GB internal hard drive, partitioned equally between the two drives -- drive C: are programs, drive D: is data) using Windows backup, the program terminates saying that drive D: is write protected. I can't find a way to verify or change this write protection. I wonder why write protection on drive D: prevents a backup to the external hard drive, assuming that write protection for drive D: actually exists. Drive C: backs up OK using Windows backup. BTW, there is a second physical internal hard drive, drive H:, that is the remaining 80 GB. My Computer reports two more drives that don't exits: drives F: and G: that are removable drives that don't exit as far as I know. When clicked upon either, a message appears to insert media into the drive that doesn't exit. What to do? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] More memory needed?
In a recent post on this listserv, I asked about increasing memory on an old computer that my high school daughter was using. That computer was: Dell Optiplex GX240 1700 MHz. Pentium 4; 3/256 KB memory cache Bus 100 MHz. The consensus was that the computer was too old to try to upgrade memory. Now, my middle-aged daughter gave her old computer to my youngest daughter to replace the older Dell computer. This computer was built locally at my specification about 4 years ago. The info on this computer is (obtained from BelArc Advisor): Win XP Pro SP2 2.15 GHz. AMD Athlon XP processor ASUSTeK A7N8X-E Rev. 2.xx motherboard Bus 166 Mhz. The computer has 512 MB DIMM memory in one slot, two additional slots free. (1) Is it advisable to add memory to speed up this computer? (2) Where is a good place to buy cheap memory? Most memory places ask for brand name to select memory, but I have only motherboard info. Is this info sufficient? (3) The motherboard on bootup displays first a BIOS-like menu, followed by a graphic display with a female voice saying that something like all systems are checked and found to be working. The graphic splash display includes a mention that the motherboard works at 400 MHz. This contradicts the information from BelArc Advisor that the bus is 166 MHz. Is there something set wrong in the BIOS? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Memory upgrade advice sought
I have an older desktop computer for my daughter's use which was adequate until she is now in high school. She complains that she can't play on-line games because the computer is too slow. I'm wondering if additional RAM would help, and if so whether it is worth buying for such an old computer. INFO: Dell Optiplex GX240 1700 MHz. Pentium 4; 3/256 KB memory cache Bus 100 MHz. Windows 2000 Pro SP4 Drives: 40 GB, 26 GB free Memory: 384 MB total: DIMM_A: 256 MB and DIMM_B: 128 MB (1) I can't find a way to enter the service tag for the Dell computer at the Dell web site; (2) Googeling the computer model, I see that a 512 MB memory card costs about $65 -- this would replace the 128 MB memory to upgrade to at total of 768 MB (3) Looking at Task Manager, a single program with a few directory windows open shows that only 10 -- 30 MB of RAM are available QUESTIONS: (1) Would additional memory significantly increase the speed of the computer? (2) If the answer to the above is yes, would it be reasonable to spend money to upgrade such an old computer? (3) Is there a place to buy the needed memory much cheaper than the $65/half-GB memory? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet
At 08:57 AM 2/18/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't dispute your basic premise, however I think it's unfair to label those who are offended by the public display of these images as extremists. Islam (to my limited understanding) has a fundamental objection to graven images and depictions of the Prophet seem to be the most egregious form of this. This observation, even if true, misses the point. Whether or not someone, anyone, is offended by the images of Mohammed, simply isn't what is at issue. What IS at issue is the demand by some Moslems, which demand is made in the name of, and for the sake of, ALL of Islam, that the entire world behave as if it, too, were ALSO similarly offended. Simply put, this demand is those Moslems asking the rest of the world to practice THEIR religion. Other interpretations of this demand characterize it as those Moslems claiming that the entire world has some duty to be as offended by the images as are the demanding Moslems. I disagree with you in at least this narrow respect: You can't believe the entire cosmos should practice your religion (in even so narrow a way as being offended by images of Mohammed) unless you are extreme. Moderate Moslems, hell, moderate ANYBODY, practically by definition, understand that other opinions and philosophies abound, and that those other opinions and philosophies are entitled to exactly the same respect that Moslems want for Islam. Only someone extreme would or could adopt that attitude that, in all of creation (Oops! Sorry!), his and only his view is entitled to respect. I realize that by characterizing things in this way, it opens up the entirely new subject of the extent to which extremity is (or should be) tolerated, or, even worse, understood as acceptable, in this culture or that. Quaere: To what extent, in a polity that has made itself a democracy (particularly one with an establishment clause in its constitution), is it extreme to put references to a deity in the polity's Pledge of Allegiance and on that polity's currency? In a democracy, is a polity being only a little bit theocratic, just like a woman being only a little bit pregnant, or are there differences of substance? I need to warn, ahead of time, those of you who might want to answer this with majority rules arguments: That way lies (1) madness, (2) publicly manifest error, and (3) demonstrations to the list of your ignorance of democracy. I'm beggin' ya, I'm PLEADIN' with ya, think of something else. In fact, think of how much damage Rosa Parks will do to your majoritarian position. I would say that the vast majority of those asking for the removal of those pictures are devout adherents to their faith, and are overall decent people. I think the evidence clearly indicates that this isn't true, as some of us small d democrats see things, although I'm not really sure what to make of your adjective decent. I wish I knew, with more specificity, what you mean by using that word, and how you know, empirically, that it's even applicable, or upon what empirical sources, or objective criteria, did you draw to come to your opinion? Some members of this list (as well as most adult citizens of the US) are also devout adherents to their faith, How would you know what most adult citizens of the US think, believe, or practice? How would anyone know? Polls? All polls do is report what people say, rather than what they believe. however their faith may not have an issue with graven images. But they are no less devout for all that. Which, as I mentioned above, really isn't the issue. Would you consider them extremists? Yes, possibly, and I said why, above. I also think there comes a time when exercise of one's freedom of expression goes beyond a reasonable limit, if enough people are genuinely offended. Why is it your call to make? Why is it ANYBODY'S call to make? What, exactly, is meant by reasonable limit? Who decides how many is enough, and why should it even matter? That is: Why should I be silenced or censored simply because whatever I say pisses everybody off? Should my father have stopped being Jewish if enough [Christians had been] genuinely offended? Like I suggested above, when you are talking about small d democracy, it isn't particularly safe to hang your hat on majoritarian arguments. Imagine if Wikipedia were to display graphic images of sex acts on its home page. There are ALREADY some 5,878,499,814,186.5 websites with graphic images of sex acts on [their respective] home page[s]. Where have YOU been? Oh. I almost forgot: You need to be over 18, and I'll need a valid credit card before we can proceed. Extra credit to anybody who knows the significance of the number I used. This may sound ludicrous, but to some Muslims, a graphic depiction of the Prophet is equally offensive. Ludicrous, indeed, even if THAT were
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet
At 05:01 PM 2/16/2008, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, is refusing to remove medieval artistic depictions of the Prophet Muhammad, despite being flooded with complaints from Muslims demanding the images be deleted. http://tinyurl.com/2f9q7w 'At's-a too bad, eh? It's one thing for you voluntarily to construct your life around a set of (quite literally) Dark Ages practices and religious and cultural philosophies [which, in this case, call for theocratic totalitarianism; can you say, caliphate?], but it is quite another to insist that the rest of the world indulge you (by abandoning its own rights) while you do it. If I were the one responding, I would be sorely tempted to up the ante by saying that removing the images was against my religion, and that [Allah Himself said that] only instruments of Satan would have made the request, in the first place. Let it be the problem of the would-be censors, and let THEM assume the risk that, and carry the freight if, that kind of response generates more heat than light. Tough First Amendment noogies! And for the purposes of showing just how unprincipled they actually are, I'd also be tempted to order the would-be censors to demand that Ahmadinejad retract his cruel and tasteless comments about The Holocaust and the destruction of Israel. Yo! Mahmood! Shut up, dog! Bob Hey, yo, hepty-doop! OK End -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM * For information about the list, managing your list subscription, list rules, * * list archives, privacy policy, calmness, and a member map go to CGUYS.ORG. *
[CGUYS] USB drivers missing
This morning an ice storm hit my house and the power went out. After it was restored, my computer wouldn't boot because the setup menu was all changed (hard drives not recognized, etc.) I restored everything but now can't get the USB ports working. The driver is not found in Device Manager. Upon booting Windows XP SP2, a found new hardware message is received. A wizard then tries to find the USB driver on the internet but then reports that none can be found. What do I need to do to restore USB function? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB drivers missing
I followed your advice about unplugging the USB devices. I also unplugged the power supply even tho some were switched off. As I plugged them back in, some became active and some didn't so I repeated the operation for the ones that were still not active. Eventually all became active again. Brian Jones wrote: The USB drivers are included in WIN XP. They will install automatically. It almost sounds like maybe you have a USB device plugged in that may have been damaged or changed by the power fail/surge. Try unplugging all USB, then reboot to see if you get the message again. Then plug in each USB device to see which one no longer has a device driver associated with it. That will be your culprit. If you get the message without any USB devices plugged in, then: go to your DEVICE MANAGER (right click MY COMPUTER, choose PROPERTIES, then the HARDWARE tab). Expand the USB controllers, then right click on each item in this list and delete it (if it will allow you to). You must have at least power user privledges to do this. Reboot, and XP will detect and reinstall fresh drivers for each USB root. Finally, plug in your devices and watch for errors. If XP cannot install drivers for the USB ports, then the USB section on your Motherboard may be damaged. Purchase an aftermarket USB card and pop it into your slots. Get one with the latest firewire port for good measure. You mentioned that the BIOS had changes in it... check it again to see if the USB ports may have been disabled (this could cause the message you are seeing). Not all BIOS can disable the USB ports, so don't worry if you don't see them. If you BIOS was changed during the power surge, you might want to blast a new image into your BIOS... Either use the 'RESET BIOS' sequence or download the latest BIOS upgrade from your manufacturer. (be VERY careful to get the right one!) Good Luck! - Brian - Original Message - From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CGUYS] USB drivers missing This morning an ice storm hit my house and the power went out. After it was restored, my computer wouldn't boot because the setup menu was all changed (hard drives not recognized, etc.) I restored everything but now can't get the USB ports working. The driver is not found in Device Manager. Upon booting Windows XP SP2, a found new hardware message is received. A wizard then tries to find the USB driver on the internet but then reports that none can be found. What do I need to do to restore USB function? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB drivers missing
Yes, there is now no error message. Brian Jones wrote: Has your error message disappared? - Original Message - From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] USB drivers missing I followed your advice about unplugging the USB devices. I also unplugged the power supply even tho some were switched off. As I plugged them back in, some became active and some didn't so I repeated the operation for the ones that were still not active. Eventually all became active again. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] USB drivers missing
Now that my USB problem appears to be solved on my Windows XP desktop, a further question. I earlier mentioned that I had to reset the Setup because after the power failure there were no drives were found, the date and time were wrong, the RAID controller had be switched on, etc. I restored these as best I could, but I'm not sure if I did it correctly. The computer seems to work OK, however. Will you please comment if anything is wrong? This is how I have configured it now. This I don't understand this at all from the setup menu: Hard Disk Drive Sequence: 1. System Bios 2. Unknown device (not installed) 3. USB device (not installed) 4. Unknown device (not installed) This I think is OK, but not sure: Drive Configuration: Diskette Drive A: SATA Raid: Off SATA Primary Hard Drive: On SATA Secondary Hard Drive: On Primary Master Drive: Off Primary Slave Drive: Off Secondary Master Drive: CD-ROM Secondary Slave Drive: CD-ROM IDE Drive UDMA: On The computer has two internal SATA hard drives installed, and two internal optical drives. According to computer specs, it is possible to add a third internal hard drive but not an SATA one. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
