[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: 'John McCain- Kumbaya- Republicans...'
(snip) ...except that Obama has flip-flopped on practically every issue now that he has secured the nomination. Isn't that a form of lying? (snip) Flip-Flop, Flip-Flop, Was made popular by the Rove/Bush/Cheney machine; In the infamous take of John Kerry, wind-sailing. President Lincoln changed his mind on many occasions, And once when questioned by a reporter, on how many times he had changed his mind, he said, Something about knowing more today, than I did yesterday; And that he 'Didn't respect a man much, who thought exactly today, as he thought yesterday. Lincoln was able to bring this country through a very crazy and brutal time. He had the same qualities as Senator Obama, a willingness to listen to all sides of an issue. A flexibility to compromise, on order to move forward. An openness to everyone taking part in government; The people taking the power back, From the few, who have been manipulating the many. So, forget about flip-flopping as lieing. This is how much you've been brain-washed by Bush Co. Evolution requires openness and hearing all sides of an issure, intellectual understanding, an ability to lead through example and inspiration; And a firm belief in the right of all people to be treated with respect and dignity. And, to respect and uphold the Constitution. The opposite in every way from Bush Co/McCain Co. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Essene Gospel of Peace' (book 1)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said: Robert must have taken too many drugs in the '60s... (snip) Thanks for your concern, Shemp, I really appreciate that... I recall your guy Reagan, must have had 'too many drugs in the 60's... Strange fellow went completely off the deep end, toward the end of the bend around the last curve at the end Nice library though; Ranch was amazing; and girls, girls, girls. Frank laid Nancy I heard, right in the WH... The whole useless, mindless drug war. The whole oil mess. The scandelous banking practices. Everywhere you look; Looks like Babylon... Jagger wants to 'Return to Babylon?' Why? Remember, unnessasary war, never-ending war, rob the poor and middle class to pay for the play of the top greedy bastards. Did I forget something? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Harvard students?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know, what percentage of the students of Harvard are Jewish? About six million percent; no, really I don't know for sure; Why do you ask such a question? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Harvard students?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Anyone know, what percentage of the students of Harvard are Jewish? About six million percent; no, really I don't know for sure; Why do you ask such a question? R.G. Jews are the most gifted people on this planet, in many areas of life. Harvard is the number one University, according to a Chinese ranking. I thought Jews might be over-represented(?) in some of the best universities. What do the Chinese know anyway? They're just into making sh*t to sell at Walmart. As far as representing something to somebody, what is your point. That the Jews are the cause of all our woes? Is that it? Is that where you're going with this? Didn't we see that Play before? Remember? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: 'John McCain- Kumbaya- Republicans...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: (Strawberry Fields, Forever) Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 8:49 PM The Republicans like to mock all the 'Kumbaya' moments, That should be celebrated, when people work together, Our system is based in large part upon the parliamentary democracy system. It is, by definition, a system of opposition. The harmony comes from the creative tension that results from opposites coming together. You can't have harmony with two samenesses...you need contrast, diversity, difference... So I get very nervous when one claims Kumbaya as B. Hussein does and claims he can get people to work together. To me, that always sounds like that mantra Buy American which is, of course, the most anti-American slogan ever uttered. This is the Mantra: Obama, Obama, Obama= Real Change Obama, Obama, Obama= Authenticity Truth, not lies. Integration, not disintegration. Teaching, not testing. Freedom, not slavery. Coherence, not chaos. Peace, not war. Hope, not fear. Giving, not taking. R.G. For common cause; McCain and Republicans like to mock this... I do remember though, thier moment 'In the Sun, With Ronald Reagan, when he gave a good 'old speech'... We all would enjoy the 'Kumbaya Moment' real steady... So, don't be against 'Kumbaya' Kumbaya Forever!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another book about everyone's favorite community organiser
(sniP) Senators, like govenators, need not be natural-born US citizens. Presidents, on the other hand... Lawson Barack Obama is as 'Natural Born' as one can get. He's a 'Natural Born President of the United States'. Get used to it, white boys! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'My Dream, this morning...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: I had a dream this morning which was unusual, And which I thought, I would share... I was watching Maharishi and Guru Dev... Sitting cross-legged, in facing each other... They seemed to be fixated on each other, And Maharishi seemed to be hugging him, And stroking his forehead and face... There was a feeling of love, and of accomplishment. The was a feeling of completion. The dream only lasted a few minutes, But left a deep impression upon me. R.G. That wasn't Maharishi and Guru Dev that you saw (snip) Please don't tell me what my dream was about. The dream you describe is one that continues to breed hell on earth. The Rev.Wright, whom you criticize is in the same camp with you. Barack Obama has given up on him, for now. He displayed himself to be 'all ego'... What is your excuse? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just Try This Out ...
(snip) The crucifixion was a Roman Terror Technique, to scare the bejeebees out of anyone who witness it. Thousand of people, mostly Jews were crucified in those days. The Romans sent the early believers in Christ to be ripped apart at the Coloseum in Rome, before cheering crowds. The Romans wrote and reinterpreted Christ's teachings; When they adopted Christianity as the State Religion, in 400 something AD. The teachings of Jeshua have nothing to do with crucifixion of 'blood of Christ, 'Body of Christ, in the Roman Mass. This is more an adaptation of Roman religios symbols, etc. The Romans seperated Christ from the Jews. This is the 'Big Lie'... Jesus taught to love, and to forgive. He taught about the soul, and how it continues after death. The bible was writting by people in power... And in those days, it was like 'Fox news' is these daysss... R.G. (snip)
[FairfieldLife] Re: obama as antichrist
(sniP) But Jerry Falwell said that the AntiChrist would be a Jew and Obama isn't Jewish. (sniP) Why would you believe anything that Jerry Falwell would say- This baby food is for closed minded bigots. The whole thing is so riduculous... Christians believe that God is a Jew. They follow a Jewish Messiah, and call him Jesus. Have any of these idiots listen to Dylan. He's a Jew also. Get over it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sal Sunshine: full of sh*t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, I'm still waiting for you to list all of Barack's accomplishments so we can examine them. Well? He has led a truthful and righteous life. He beat the Clinton machine with a grass roots campaign. He has inspired people around the world, and has shown the United States to be true, to the Declaration of Independence, that all men are created equal... He is extrememly intuitive, intelligent, has a mastery of language, an integrative mind, and seems to embody a spiritual political leader. I'm not sure what you consider an accomplishment. You want someone who likes Blitzkriegs, and loves to invade other countries? What do you consider an accomplishment? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Vedic Tantra Vs. Buddhist Tantra'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Vedic tantra? What's that? (sniP) From my understanding, Tantra and Kundalini are synonomous... And whether you are using a mantra to transcend, or breath, or a combination of breath and sex; It's all about raising the energy, the vibration of your soul, While you are still in this body... The more energy you can get to rise, up the spine; And all the channels throughout the nervous system; Then all these energy centers, the Chakras, Spin faster and faster, and awaken... The Tantric reason for existence is to increase- The vibration of your soul. So, there seems to have been a rivalary, Between the Buddhists and the Vedics; As to which, or who has the best philosophies; Or techniques. This article seems to be saying the Buddhism is superior; Because it offers the world, 'Good Works'... Whereas the Vedas describe a more withdrawal from society; Lifestyle... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: obama as antichrist
(snip) the name barack has jewish origins and according to the logic of the right that proves that he is jewish just as his muslim sounding middle name proves he is muslim. (snip) What a shame! Such foolishness! Jesus was Jewish, The Christian God is a Jew... Abraham was the father of two sons- One started the Jewish religion; One started the Islamic religion; The difference between Islam and Christian- Islam believe in revenge, Christianity believes in forgivenss. Barack Obama is someone who is walking the walk of what Jesus taught. He is challenging the power structure, just as Jesus did. Jesus was crucified by the power structure, because he threatened it. Barack is also a threat to the power structure; But because 'The Empire' call the United States- IS WAKING UP Then there is HOPE. Barack Obama is the HOPE of the World! Wake up and smell the coffee// was up wi dat bros? Don't be such wimpy noodle nogans. Black is beautiful... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: obama as antichrist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: (sniP) But Jerry Falwell said that the AntiChrist would be a Jew and Obama isn't Jewish. (sniP) Why would you believe anything that Jerry Falwell would say- This baby food is for closed minded bigots. The whole thing is so riduculous... Christians believe that God is a Jew. They follow a Jewish Messiah, and call him Jesus. Have any of these idiots listen to Dylan. He's a Jew also. Get over it. Maybe Barry has been right all along and one does have to include the - ): emoticon for the idiots on FFL. Sons of Light Vs. Sons of Darkness... This is the battle we are in. Barack is representing the Light. McCAin is representing the Dark. Hillary is supporting Barack. Bill is supporting Barack. It will be interesting to see: Whose side you are on. Will you support a fear mongering liar. or Will you support someone who can bring us together, IN Truth, who speaks the truth, and is not afraid to speak the truth. Because like Bobby Dylan says: 'YOO're gonna have to Serve Somebody... NOW, it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, But, you're gonna have to serve somebody'. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another book about everyone's favorite community organiser
--- (sniP) McCain was born in the 'Panama Canel Zona'... The real forgery is the one that was recently written about; Of how the Bush Administration, forged a document, attempting to link; Mohammand Atta, to Saddam Hussein, in their attempt to brainwash the American public, in order to go to war in Iraq... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Vedic Tantra Vs. Buddhist Tantra'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:44 PM, R.G. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Vedic tantra? What's that? (sniP) From my understanding, Tantra and Kundalini are synonomous... And whether you are using a mantra to transcend, or breath, or a combination of breath and sex; It's all about raising the energy, the vibration of your soul, While you are still in this body... Did you actually read the article that was posted? That's more your stylized dream than what it said. What is touched on was the nine darshanas, or ways of seeing enlightenment, in sutra and tantra. All nine would actually encompass sutra, tantra, both outer and inner and Dzogchen, the non-dual tantras. Each tantra sees reality in a somewhat different way. None postulate a soul. I am not a fundementalist in that sense, that you describe. I interpret things, words, sounds, concepts, God, according to my own experience. If my experience likes to use the word soul to describe certain realities... Then I can appreciate another's writing, or sacred text... And come to my own conclusions about it. This is what Maharishi did. This is what he taught us to do... It's the TM movement that changed. Maharishi in his basic spirit was a rebel with a cause... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Bush is the Anti-Christ( was..._
(sNiP) The only thing I can think of Robert is that you must have taken too many drugs in the '60s. Well, (zeig hiel) to my dear friend: Shempaphonic Shemp! Here's to you my friend? I did see Hendrix twice... Does that count for something, In your warped book, my friend? My friend, you are against the sixties? Why is that, my friend? Let us pray for this young lad, my friends... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chauffeurs - the gateway to Pure Evil.
(snip) Well done, President Bush. It is a fitting climax to your 8 year reign. There hasn't been a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil in over five years. Good job, Mr. Bush! (snip) Mr. Bush had a memo, on this date, seven years ago; Warning of an attack on the possibly an airline hijacking; And possible targets in Washington and New York... 9/11 could have been prevented? Anthrax attack, letters sent out one week, after 9/11. Seven years later, suspect commits suicide: case closed. Bush Co. decides to invade Iraq, and uses false information in order to do so. Bush Co. work for Big Oil, leaves country bankrupt, corrupted and diminished.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Paris Hilton Responds to McCain Ad
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just okay. A little slow in the editing. I think a little more creative juices could have come up with something funnier. (snip) I think it was perfectly a mediocre response to a mediocre candidate in a mediocre culture...? The lighting was excellent, I would say... A lot of it is lighting... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?postID=hd0c66qqAS- CPtr\ 1VREnlP81oRDaRWbqDPtQeeEO2cJuZnWORp99To70J8nNhXVNGXjr_- oLO0yPyvw9JFYhTR1\ fVWs , R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?postID=CL- yygi3hRdfSIS\ VqCgbgbUAmywLF4JyFgi4mw- vcT4uBklgoVNYByuwhXI2HSHdVwkdpS8sjq8rpLvbJkV3SsF\ rHZKh2w , Hagen J. Holtz hagen.j.holtz@ wrote: R.G., your thesis that Jesus would be the sound closest to God seems to me like a claim directly out of mere mythology and not really science-based, saying only: You may believe it or not. This is not my thesis, at all... My thesis is that all these mantras are 'names', 'vibrations',vehicles for Transcendence. I am proposing that if one was a follower of Jesus, and one would like a mantra associated with him, then I was suggesting the mantra or sound: 'Yeshua' For example, when TM was being taught in public schools and it was found to be a religion, there would be another objection, and that is that the mantras originated as 'names' or 'aspects of God'... So, if that objection arose, and one didn't want to start TM, Because they felt they wanted a mantra associated with the God of their choosing... Then for someone like that, you could say: This is your mantra, for bringing Jesus and the qualities of him, By using a vibration, which would relate to him. So, if you wanted to transcend on the name or sound Yeshua, Then that would be a way for someone who felt a clossness to Jesus, To find an inner sense of him, and eventually transcend, if they were taught how to use this vibration of the sound Yeshua, in the same effortless way, they think any other thoughts. So, in that way, TM could be said to be a Universal Technique... Different from the rest, Because it's not chanting, it's not dogma; Rather it is a way to Transcend on a 'life-supporting sound. I am making this sound Yeshua, a mantra that would relate to Jesus, From my own experience. There is a tradition in the Jewish religion, that is called sitting Shiva. When someone passes away, the family and friends get together to comfort the family, by sitting with them, and this is called: Sitting Shiva. Coincidence? Shiva is used as a mantra for God, also, No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld No one mantra, is 'The Mantra of God'... The technique of meditation itself, is a way to get to God... That is Maharishi's teaching to the world. A way to transcend. This is what is missing at church, or synagog, or mosque. The dogma keeps people from transcending and engages the mind, Instead of transcending the mind. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
(snip) No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld Ya, ya, das ist gut, ya
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Texas Muffin Tumble?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: babajii wrote: Ya' Ever Play A Game Called Texas Muffin Tumble Lil' Lady? Get your mind out of the gutter, Babaji! Thanks Tex, you're right... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
'Haven't we already been through this cycle, with The Beatles, And Maharishi alegedly, 'using The Beatles', For some publicity purpose... Could this have anything to do with 'Give unto Caesar what is Caesars? Perhaps, it's just all maya? He's like from India, and the Brits and Americans have been draining these economies? Um, let's see, well, hard to figure? r.g. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. What is your source on MMY stealing the ringer off the corpse of Guru Dev? While it doesn't surprise me, I don't recall hearing that one before. Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? There's been some recent discussion here that the money might be returning to India to his nephew Girish who controls the financial empire there. MUM just had it's largest class in many years, a lot of it people from foreign countries looking for a way into the US or jobs here. Plus there's been a lot of proselytizing from Donovan and David Lynch. Lynch along with Dr. Howard Settle are having to fund the sidhi program in FF to even get people to show up. Oh, and I guess you heard, the pundits finally showed up and were immediately enclosed in barbwire-surrounded digs. I'm pretty sure it was Vedic barbwire, so I wouldn't worry. :-)
[FairfieldLife] 'Where is God?'
The last conversation discussed 'Names of God'... And there was found to be no name of God, Or 10,000's of names... I do recall Maharishi saying that God was located at the 'Finest Relative... And when one had the transcendent quality of consciousness, that one would begin to want to refine the perception, for understanding and for attunement to the 'Higher Power', your 'Higher Self'... So, at the finest level, all these qualities of God, can be revealed. I believe the atmosphere that attracted so many students to Maharishi, Was his Darshan, which reflected this quality of finest relative, and his own realizations of God... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted. Why do you mention the CIA? What's up with the real deal here? Who would have been behind someone investigating Maharish? Pray tell, what's up with these remarks regarding the CIA? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incrimental development seems to be in your conception a coming close to 1 : 1 event in every state of unfoldment. Like as if turning itself to a big copy out of a small one, but looking basically the same. This is just wrong and against daily experience. Your theory sounds very simplifying and fundemtalistic, as if being always afraid of loosing the putative homeliness of a pictographic sight. It reminds me to the colourful pictures of haunting children's books, which seem to make the world become clearly arrangable. But the (human) unfoldment in contrast takes place so that every segment of its evolution represents a completely different reality. Look through what states of evolution as fish and reptile you have already been going in the womb, and all and above I think you will not want to directly compare your childhood-experiences 1 : 1 to those you have been gathering now as an adult as well. Maharishi in his commentary to the Bhagavadgita even confirms this fundamental insight by stating that each higher state of consciousness was based on a completely different quality of reality and could not be taken merely as a finer extension of the preceding one. Hagen I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was talking about transcending, and using mantras for the purpose of transcending... As well, in addition to transcending, a way to explore the finest relative, based in higher vibrations of sound and light, which is located at the finest level. We learn this with the Sidhis, and the concept that 'God' works... Or 'Natural Law' , 'Works', at the quietest, most subtle levels. That is why Obama is getting so much accomplished, Because he knows how to work at the subtlest level. We are moving from the literal 'Gross!!!' To a finer level of reality, the collective consciousness, Of the entire planet, on all levels, Releasing much Karma, individual and collective, Especially when the finer realms are activated by direct experience... This makes it easier for everyone else to activate the 'Light of Consciousness' So, let go and let God. Take it as it comes. Be Still and Know That I am God. Give Peace a Chance. Add your own advice... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen I was not saying anything about Jesus being the ultimate anything. I was saying for those who wish to explore the finer levels of Jesus, Might expect to use the name/form formula, like they do in Sanskrit. We eventually find out, that everything is God. There is no differentiation. But there are different inspirations, which they use... In Sanskrit, Ganesha, Vishnu, Brahma, Rama, Saraswati, devas, angels, So many beings at the finer levels... No one is superior or inferior, It's not about that. It's about find God. For yourself. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi When I came to the end of this letter, I was so surprised to see that it was Joel writing the letter. Joel makes some very good points, but this whole thing about celibacy. What was that? Maharishi to the best of my knowledge never made any direct statements about being celibate to men on Purusha. Of course this was implied and present in all the yogi literature people read, but never directly from MMY. So many people lost their bearings in the TM movement because they stopped trusting their own judgment, their own experience. They allowed themselves to become psychologically enslaved by the increasingly bizarre perspective of MMY and never allowed themselves to trust their own little intuitive voice that was screaming at them. For those that don't know Joel, he is a very good man, a little fanatical at times like we all were at some time, but a great sense of humor and a warm heart. One of the good guys! -Peter Maharishi said plenty about celibacy, starting an Poland Spring, 1970 in my experience. Whenever the subject of sex came up, he would first say that he didn't know anything about it. Then, often in the next breath, he would talk about his desire to assemble a group of guys who wanted to live that lifestyle. Once Purusha was formed, there were plenty of meetings in which he fielded questions and encouraged the guys to maintain celibacy. I asked him about it personally one time (with regard to nocturnal emissions) and he gave me some advice (not to eat too much at night). You were never on Purusha were you Peter? I know from working at the University, and other experiences, that this did tended to be a problem in the movement. And I don't think Maharishi really knew much about sex. He was obviously not sexually repressed himself, Otherwise, he wouldn't have had this amazing precence and Shakti... Most people aren't ready to be celibate. Sex and emotions are the main obstacles, so I would agree with the importance with dealing with these issues... And I think the movement would have been more 'powerful' and more 'integrated into American society, if these two powerful aspects of life had been dealt with more directly. I have had to use other methods and experiences to heal some of these past emotional and sexual things, and am still in the process of healing. I think much of the problem in 'Celebate Communities', Whether it be Christian or Buddhist, you will find, The repressed Shakti, and lifelessness, that repressing emotions and sexual energy produces... Probably because Maharishi was born into a different culture, and was already at a high level at birth, and then coming in direct contact with a Guru like the one he had, Gave him a particularly powerful path, to get to a very high state of enlightenment fairly quickly... I've heard he experienced C.C. within three years, or something like that... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we start to turn in circles and you slowly tergiversate. In order to achieve the finer aspects of Jesus, apart from the question, what the sense of such intention should be, using his name for such purpose would most probably not be applicable. That is what I meant with a 1 : 1 view. You conclude: If shiva leads to the absolute (apart from the question, whether he does, because the word shiva is normally not a typical mantra for transcending into silence) then Jesus must lead to higher Jesus or God or whatever. If this was so, then meditating on the word Einstein would possibly lead to the recognition of his theories or the other way round :-))). Hagen (snip) 'Einstein's Hebrew name, continues to be a mystery... But here is some information on Einstein's Hebrew Name. In searching for a Hebrew equivalent name, it's important to decide if you're looking for a name with a similar meaning, or a name with a similar sound. Similar Meaning: Eric apparently comes from Old Norse and means eternal ruler. Hebrew names come usually from nature words or descriptions of God. Thus there is no direct equivalent. The Hebrew word for ruler is Moshel, but is not a known first name. Eliad means eternal God, Aviad means eternal father; Elimelech or Malkiel mean God is my king. Similar Sounding: The closest in sound would be Ari or Aryeh, which means lion; Ariel is lion of God. Men named Ari or Aryeh in Israel usually have the nickname of Arik (as in Arik Einstein, the popular Israeli singer). All the best, Aiden
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there woman on this site who've been seduced or hit on by MMY? Sexual Issues, outer projection... Shiva/Shakti... Mastery of sexual energy. No sexual frustration. Sexual energy is transformed to something else. Not too many responses. Check out Osho for this kind of thing. He was obsessed with Sex... The one in Oregon, remember him. Bagwhan Shree Rajneesh. Wasn't he into $$$ and 'Rolls Royce's... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a TM teacher for 20 years. I was on Purusha for 7 years. Peter wrote: Joel makes some very good points, but this whole thing about celibacy. What was that? So, I guess Joel spent at least 27 years being unemployed and broke, sitting around all day meditating, and all that time thinking that he was supposed to be a celibate, but you're saying that Marshy never said to be celibate? This is just incredible! Well, then, we could have some resentment there, over sexuality issues... That little 'hard-wired' urge 'Constant craving, is all we do?' Anyway, do we blame Jesus for all the poor celibate Roman Catholic Priests, That obviously have had thier own share of troubles in this area. Then there's the OJ thing. Boy, that sex...ual urge... Just say No! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain the surge and bickering sounding like Senator Clinton?????
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: babajii wrote: 'I have a feeling John and Hillary are pretty close... Intimate I mean; like when they traveled together. Are John McCain and Hillary traveling together? Yes, they have traveled together; And they both give a wink, wink, nod, nod, to keep people guessing, but the inference was that they are 'very close'... The travel I think was overseas, I'm not sure when... I could do the research, but given thier history's it's just an intuitive observation. McCain has already been accused of an affair with one of his staff memebers.. And his wife, seems like the typical ding-bat, as Archie Bunker used to say... A blond bimbo... Similar tastes in women of the great lover of adultery, Bill Clinton. King of Adultery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
(snip) even better than what MMY had been teaching ! Hagen I am implying that if someone has a problem with the bija mantras, which Maharishi uses; Then, Since the name/form in the bija is a sound... The closest sound or vibration, would be the name of Jesus... Jesus is a Roman name. Yeshua, was the name, and the sound which could be used, as a mantra. or Elocheem, in the same way. It's more of the sound quality, that I am referring to. In Mararishi's TM, is not the meaning of the mantra, that is important. It is the intention to think a sound, in a particular way, to transcend. The problem with religion, is the dogma, which prevents transcendence. So, in truth, the name of God can't be spoken, like the Ancient One's said. Because God is Transcendent. That is why one commandment has to do with worshiping idols. There is no idol that can represent God. But God can be found through Transcendence. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'John Hillary- What Happens in Estonia, stays in Estonia'
By ANNE E. KORNBLUT Published: July 29, 2006 WASHINGTON, July 28 Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest. Also in the Guide The Race for the U.S. House Governors' Races Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. One of the guys was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues. Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain went on to develop an amiable if professionally calculated relationship. They took more official trips together, including to Iraq. They worked together on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. They made a joint appearance last year on Meet the Press, interacting so congenially that the moderator, Tim Russert, joked about their forming a fusion ticket. Politics being what it is, there is more friction than fusion. As the 2008 presidential campaign begins to take shape, with Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton at the top of the polls for their parties' nominations, they are increasingly underscoring their differences on issues like the war in Iraq and port security. Advisers to Mr. McCain have put a stop to his inviting Mrs. Clinton on trips. Whether their friendship is based on anything other than the respect of one political professional for another, or the opportunity to strike a tone of bipartisanship for public consumption, is unclear. But the interplay between the two senators, both well known and both with compelling personal narratives and a knack for infuriating their own parties' bases, could determine the tone of the 2008 presidential race and make it less personally vicious than the last two campaigns. Of course, Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton are a long way from facing off for the presidency. Neither has even officially announced a candidacy, and both would still have to endure a primary season that is shaping up to be intense. Neither would probably be the other's first choice as a rival; both would no doubt prefer to run against someone less skilled in blurring ideological lines. Still, members of both parties are already speculating about what a McCain-Clinton race would be like. If they get through a primary election, they would be polar opposites on policy, said Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a close ally of Mr. McCain who has traveled with both senators. On the major issues, it'd be a fairly clear choice. But I believe that the personal relationship hopefully could survive the political process. Harking to the days when a Republican president and a Democratic speaker of the House were friends, Mr. Graham said, Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill, at the end of the day, would go down to the White House and knock one back, and the country was no worse off for that. Rarely is it the case that likely presidential contenders are able to play off each other so much. Two modern races, in 1992 and 2000, pitted governors against Washington insiders, the candidates barely acquaintances. George W. Bush, then the governor of Texas, recalled having met Vice President Al Gore only a few times before they debated onstage in 2000. Four years later, despite their overlapping years at Yale and their work just down Pennsylvania Avenue from each other, President Bush and Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, made contact almost entirely over the airwaves. This time, with so many senators thinking about running, the primaries and potentially the general election could find the candidates squaring off against colleagues who are operating in close proximity. Mr. Kerry served in Vietnam around the same time as Mr. McCain, who defended him against Republican attacks during the 2004 race. Senator Russell D. Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, devised a landmark campaign-finance bill with Mr. McCain (and has since traveled with him and with Mrs. Clinton). Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain, however, share not just a title, but also a general approach to politics. Both strive to be seen as willing to break with ideological orthodoxy from time to time and to work across the aisle. Both emerged from nasty political battles Whitewater and her husband's impeachment in her case, the 2000 Republican primaries in his declaring their hatred of the politics of personal destruction, as former President Bill Clinton called it. They would run a completely different campaign than we've seen in recent memory, said Marshall Wittman, a former aide to Mr. McCain who has worked with Mrs. Clinton. Both of them realize there is a desire in the country for a different
[FairfieldLife] Re: O mi corazon, mi poliamor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to springboard off of something said here recently to a subject which I've never noticed come up before. McCain has already been accused of an affair with one of his staff members. ... Similar tastes in women of the great lover of adultery, Bill Clinton. King of Adultery. Ok, the subject is not McCain or Clinton or politics. It's about that word 'adultery,' and about a partic- ular point of view about sex and sexuality and rela- tionships, and the pervasiveness of this point of view in the culture. We've had discussions of homosexuality here before, and those were interesting, revealing that not every- one shares Maharishi's Better to be dead view on that subject. And the issue of adultery or infidelity or cheating on one's Significant Other does come up from time to time, but everyone just lets it slide as if there were nothing to challenge in looking down at such things. Here in Spain I know a few people who are actively into 'poliamor' -- in English, 'polyamory.' Some are single, some are married, but they're all into open relationships. Note that polyamory does NOT mean swinging. There are couples who each have other relationships with other people -- and sometimes more than one -- but they are *committed* relationships. Everybody knows everybody else, and is comfortable with the whole scene. There are even instances of threesomes or foursomes having and raising kids. It's been an eye-opener for me, even though I grew up during the Hippie era and basically practiced this lifestyle for some years...I just never had a name for it before. :-) So I thought I'd bring it up here as a topic for con- versation. I know that Maharishi's view and the TMO's view on relationships is Pretty Damned Traditional, if not downright puritanical. In casual conversation around this forum, relationships have pretty much been assumed to be one-on-one, with fidelity held in high esteem and infidelity held in low esteem. I have no dog in this fight, if it turns out to be one. I have been in committed relationships in which fidelity was assumed, and I have never once violated that assump- tion. I have also lived at times a fairly polyamorous lifestyle, with multiple committed relationships going on at the same time, everyone knowing about everyone else. Both approaches have had their ups and their downs, and I honestly see no inherent winner in either approach. Both have their arguments for, and against, and both sets of arguments are strong. I'm just interested in hearing what this intelligent group of people has to say on the subject. What do you THINK of the polyamory approach, to being free to have committed sexual relationships with more than one person at a time? I'm sure it could work for some people, but for most, they would have too much emotional investment to make this a comforting, loving type of thing. In many situations, for people who aren't ready for the emotions that can arise...can be dangerous. I once knew a woman, when she was younger, was in a situation where her friend had herself as well and another friend, In other words they had a ongoing threesome. Not sure why, or all the details, but the guy in this relationship ended up commiting suicide by hanging himself, and this girlfiend found him. She has never gotten over this completely, and is an advoctae for respecting the idea of playing with fire, you might get very burnt. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R.G., your thesis that Jesus would be the sound closest to God seems to me like a claim directly out of mere mythology and not really science-based, saying only: You may believe it or not. This is not my thesis, at all... My thesis is that all these mantras are 'names', 'vibrations',vehicles for Transcendence. I am proposing that if one was a follower of Jesus, and one would like a mantra associated with him, then I was suggesting the mantra or sound: 'Yeshua' For example, when TM was being taught in public schools and it was found to be a religion, there would be another objection, and that is that the mantras originated as 'names' or 'aspects of God'... So, if that objection arose, and one didn't want to start TM, Because they felt they wanted a mantra associated with the God of their choosing... Then for someone like that, you could say: This is your mantra, for bringing Jesus and the qualities of him, By using a vibration, which would relate to him. So, if you wanted to transcend on the name or sound Yeshua, Then that would be a way for someone who felt a clossness to Jesus, To find an inner sense of him, and eventually transcend, if they were taught how to use this vibration of the sound Yeshua, in the same effortless way, they think any other thoughts. So, in that way, TM could be said to be a Universal Technique... Different from the rest, Because it's not chanting, it's not dogma; Rather it is a way to Transcend on a 'life-supporting sound. I am making this sound Yeshua, a mantra that would relate to Jesus, From my own experience. There is a tradition in the Jewish religion, that is called sitting Shiva. When someone passes away, the family and friends get together to comfort the family, by sitting with them, and this is called: Sitting Shiva. Coincidence? Shiva is used as a mantra for God, also, No one mantra, is 'The Mantra of God'... The technique of meditation itself, is a way to get to God... That is Maharishi's teaching to the world. A way to transcend. This is what is missing at church, or synagog, or mosque. The dogma keeps people from transcending and engages the mind, Instead of transcending the mind. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's In Love?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: In typical R.G. fashion, I must take this issue, one step further. I say, when I see, the adoring eyes, when she is in the presence of John McCain... Hillary seems to be 'In Love' with Johnny... And I also see the butterflies that Johnny gets around Hill. In a way, I see them as soul-mates. They're both married to a couple of 'Ding-bats'... Both been through, the toughest of times. Hillary and John in Love? R.G. Hillary should be his running mate. Now, THAT would be a great ticket. Of course, Hillary is more conservative than McCain (and was a Republican a long, long time before he was) so he may feel inadequate by comparison... This would be a good ticket, a winning ticket, perhaps... But I think, John would need to play second fiddle... So,...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand up and be counted (George Carlin - Who Really Controls America)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Pikes famous vision given to him by a spirit guide : The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in (sniP) Much of this has already occurred. The forces of divide and conquer are in power now, and have been in power for quite some time. The own the media, the oil, the banks, everything. There is no one person, but more of an attitude which is not of light, but of darkness, or ignorance. This is what is being cut to peices now. The more light, the more darknes will be exposed. Just think of the difference in just a few years. Bush going from some kind of hero, to now being charged with murder. Amazing, evolution, wouldn't you agree? The rising consciousness, due to the raising of awareness, Of what has been kept in the dark, for so long... Bush is a reflection of the collective consciousness of the past. The days are numbered, for these greedy assholes, With the rising wave of consciousness. The Jews, or the Germans, or the Russians, or the Chinese, Don't have a monopoly on keeping people stupid. Meditation and the internet are exploding the evil that has been since the beginning of the 'Fall' RG/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand up and be counted (George Carlin - Who Really Controls America)
Recently I have heard that the 'Dead Sea Scrolls' predict: That 'One who leads people astay, with his liar tongue...' Will be replaced with, 'A righteous leader, who leads people in Truth'. That is another take on this possible 'dark future of Lucifer, 'The Father of Lies'... Printed below... r.g. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Pike's spirit guide tells him about WWIII; The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I hope you're right about the American psyche. My guess is that the Rambo or Die Hard instinct extends to watching such flicks but not to actually getting off the couch. But, who knows? If you're convinced that money runs the show, then don't you think money strategized to get to the position of controlling government and education (which included religion)? One of the biggest steps in the right direction according to them was the creation of the Federal Reserve System which was directly responsible for WW's I and II, and that, by published admission of the principles was a conspiracy, but you can call it a stratefy. A third war was planned all along, according to European historians. Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone here has honed their psychic powers via various methods for decades. Well, let's see if we'z gots the mojo from all the work . . . or not. Here's the question for our intuitions: Will BigBiz arrange for another 9-11 in order to declare martial law, imprison millions in the camps they've built, and call off the election until things calm down? My vote: Yes: if Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich come up another notch or two in the poles or kick ass in the primaries. No: if any other Republican or Hillary, Barack, or John get the nom. I'm on the verge of my paranoia coming to the foreground bigtime what with the camps and War with Iran talk. I'm not to my Y2K level yet, so I haven't stocked up my pantry, gotten wilderness survival equipment, or bought a gun. Ron and Dennis are candidates that seem to be artifacts that are spiking on the graph of the BigBiz's control system -- that is, they have risen a bit higher into the public's awareness than the system would like, but they are allowed cuz it makes the system seem fair -- so far that is; if they get more popular I would expect some swiftboating of Ron and Dennis for starters. The bad news is this: if the worst is true, then I will probably be rounded up and put into a camp -- just because I've posted online my deep anger towards BigBiz. They're are reading all our emails and listening to all our phone calls, right? They've got computers scanning for key words and making a list and probably not checking it twice, right? All the above said, I think that my read of the American psyche is still very hopeful. Here in Wisconsin, there's millions of deer hunters who would aim those rifles at anyone coming to take their guns or put a loved one in a camp for hating BushCo. That's the Achilles Heel of BigBiz's brainwashing of our culture: they've inculcated a Die Hard heroism worship in us, and that inner Bruce Willis within each of us is waiting for a righteous cause. It won't be easy for BigBiz to sell the camps to anyone unless a 9-11
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R.G., now I get your point. You think the effect of a mantra, - and that could be any suitable word -, to which you feel a special inclination, would be good enough to come closer to God. This seems to me to be only a romantic idea based on the assumption that transcending was only a question of comfort, confidence and good vibrations. But this theory is too simple in order to give justice to the vedic approach. Here the criteria for transcending are based on spota, the science about ideal grammar of (or) form. Example: The word table, in German Tisch and in Latin tabula may have the same meaning but different forms. Spota will teach the criteria for choosing the ideal form, which allows only one sound associatable with one particular meaning. The well-meant idea that any good sound or good meaning, associated with God, would be good enough to create the same result like TM will definitely lead to a dead end. Therefore telling a school-class, that they could take anything that comforts them in order to avoid confrontation with Indian culture is as stupid as saying, if you do not like Einstein's theory about relativity, because it is jewish, then take any other theory out of your cultural vicinity, which comes closest to his thoughts. :-))) Hagen Without passion and some kind of romance, life is not worth much, or not experienced as joyful... Especially if you're not particulary interested in math, and can mathematically understand the mathmantics of Eistein's Theory of Relativity, or any of the Quantum Mechanical equations... So, different strokes for different folks... I was attempting to describe the value of the mantra, as a means of transportation, and the technique for using the mantra, which Maharishi has described quite adequately for us... Whatever you focus on, that will manifest in your life. And whatever your intention in, that will manifest in your life. Mantras are what they are, vibrations of life-supporting qualities, Which we use in Transcendental Meditation.
[FairfieldLife] 'Nobody Told Me by John Lennon'
'Nobody Told Me by John Lennon' Everybody's talking and no one says a word Everybody's making love and no one really cares There's nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs. Always something happening and nothing going on There's always something happening cooking and nothing in the pot They're starving back in China so finish what you got. They're starving back in China so finish what you got. Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Strange days indeed strange days indeed. Everybody's runnin' and no one makes a move Everyone's a winner and no one seems to lose. There's a little yellow idol to the north of Katmandu. Everybody's flying and no one leaves the ground Everybody's crying and no one makes a sound. There's a place for us in movies you just gotta stay around. Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Strange days indeed most peculiar Mama. Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high Everybody's flying and never touch the sky There's Ufo's over New York and I ain't too surprised. Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Nobody told me there'd be days like these Strange days indeed most peculiar. Mama.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Naomi Klein on the Extortionist in Chief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was listening to her talk about Bush as the Extortionist in Chief on Laura Flander's show earlier today. I always like Klein's clear analysis of the situation with the Rakshasa hoard that have stolen the White House: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080721/lookout And we all know what eventually happens to rakshasas. They retire comfortably with annual speaking fees reaching the 10s of millions of dollars? Like Mussolini and Hitler? We will see, how this drama plays out, won't we... I don't think it can be compared to Mussolini or the H. man. I think a better analogy, would be whatever happened to Caligula of Rome. He came from a powerful family, and kind of inherited the whole shabang. He was into blood and guts, like Bush. He squandered the wealth of Rome, like Bush. I'm not sure what became of him. Except that he got reincarnated, like Bush.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Real levitation ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the only person on this forum that claims to have had any experience with real levitation (yeah, right) is Barry Wright, perhaps he will give us the poop on the authenticity of this photo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hi Rick, some of our sidhis are already heavy into science. Since we where bored and fucked up of the possible results after some decades of hopping, others, who never where in the direct meditating, took all mmy-news as complete reality, and took their road into the possibilities from other angles This is from: http://www.creativecosmos.org/PlanetaryForum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php? f=3t=1092 Image http://english.pravda.ru/img/2004/09/levitation.jpg Pic from - http://english.pravda.ru http://english.pravda.ru/ Levitation has been elevated from being pure science fiction to science fact, according to a study reported today by physicists. In earlier work the same team of theoretical physicists showed that invisibility cloaks are feasible. I have been able to levitate, quite well, in some of the dreams which I've had. Haven't had those dreams in a while, though. It was real easy to levitate, and great joy involved. It was like I got the 'hang of it', almost like leaning backwards in some way as to continue to rise somehow, someway. I got a kick out of watching how other people reacted to me levitating. The whole experience was really fun. Then I would wake up Now, in another report that sounds like it comes out of the pages of a Harry Potter book, the University of St Andrews team has created an 'incredible levitation effects' by engineering the force of nature which normally causes objects to stick together.
[FairfieldLife] 'Dreaming of Levitating'
I (me) have been able to levitate, quite well, in some of the dreams which I've had. Haven't had those dreams in a while, though. it was really cool, and was real easy to do (levitate) and it was great joy... It was like somehow, I had gotten the hang of it, and it became spontaneous and without any effort, whatsoever... Like leaning backwards into the gravitational field... I got a kick out of watching how other people reacted to me levitating. The whole experience was really fun. I would usually lose the feeling and then, Then I would wake up
[FairfieldLife] Re: NPR Reports on Guru's Passing' ( link)
Remembrances Beatles Guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Dies http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18842050 Weekend Edition Saturday, February 9, 2008 · Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who introduced transcendentalist meditation to the West, died Tuesday at his headquarters in the Netherlands. He was believed to be in his early 90s. Among the best-known seekers of his wisdom were The Beatles. He also was an entrepreneur of enlightenment, who built an enterprise of spiritual centers and schools that today is estimated to have assets of about $300 million. He was often known as The Giggling Guru for the high-pitched laugh he often used to emphasize his observations. The Beatles visited him first in 1968 and returned with some well- known friends. But controversy broke out. The Maharishi, an avowed celibate, was accused of laying hands on some women who came to his ashram. John Lennon wrote the song Sexy Sadie as a thinly-disguised denunciation. Reportedly, the song's original title was Maharishi. But the rumors of misconduct were never confirmed, and years later, George Harrison and Paul McCartney denied them. The Maharishi retired from public life just last month and said he would devote his remaining time to completing a long series of commentaries on the Vedas, the sacred Hindu texts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John McCain the surge and bickering sounding like Senator Clinton?????
'I have a feeling John and Hillary are pretty close... Intimate I mean; like when they traveled together. They just seem to compliment each other a little too much. Besides they both probably need a break from each of their respective spouses... So, once you have intimate relations with someone, you take on their vibration, to some extent... And at times it does seem like John is Channeling Hillary. But, that's the way it goes. He seems to be obsessing on the surge. Perhaps the Vigra is getting to him R.G. SniP) - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McCain is talking himself into a hole. He is too focused on the surge and not focused enough on other issues. He is very focused on Obama and not very focused on the issues. I believe that Senator McCain is digging a surge hole. When they begin debates Obama will count the amount of American deaths that took place as a result of the surge, then he will look at the results and finally will go back to his initial premise which is that the US government, the US military were never to be in that war, the reasons for going there were lies, and the economic impact of the war has been staggering to the US economy. Did the surge take place for free? Was the surge absolutely responsible for the drop in violence? What happens if the violence picks up in September? Why do people believe John McCain will be a good commander and chief? Is it because he was captured and held as a prisoner of war? Is that the kind of commander and chief we want? Is it premature to say we have won the war? Is it premature to say that the surge worked? I believe Senator McCain is digging a very fatal whole. John McCain is adopting the strategy that did not work for Senator Clinton. He is bickering, attacking, and yelling poor me over and over again. He could not congratulate Senator Obama on a successful trip instead he said He is taking a premature victory lap. I believe that by the end of democratic convention Senator Obama will have a double digit lead over Senator McCain and the WORLD will be happy. Because one thing that was evident by his trip was that the a great portion of the World loves and wants Barack Obama as President of the United States of America.
[FairfieldLife] Re: South Field Crop Circle grown from 3 to 5 Swallows !
I actually think the crop circles have something to do with the earth itself attemting to communicate to us... Perhaps through magnetic type fields or some field effect we do not know of as of yet. I don't think it has much to do with outer-space; Although, for the sci-fi fans, it would seem obvious that the interpretation would abstract to a 'Star Trek' theme... Perhaps if you buy a ticket on 'Priceline', you could rent a room with the Ashtar Command. I heard a they are selling tickets to ride the space shuttle? Anyway, the earth, she speaks to us in many ways. And her magnetic fields are a changin' ... Just like the 'Times they are a Changin'... So, you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone I wouldn't hold my breath for Astar to give you a ride... Across the street from 2nd St Cafe, upstairs of the Istanbul Grill. It is open 12-2pm and 7-8.30pm Mon- Saturday. It houses Marlene Stanley's exhibition of Crop Circle pictures and posters which she showed at Americus Diamond last year. Why don't the crop circle makers make beautiful circles and sign them, Compliments of the Pleidians, or Brought to you by the Ashtar Command, and give a toll free number - 1-800-MAKE-CROP But if they had some poor spellers, and instead wrote 1-800-MAKE-CRAP, there could be some serious trouble with the Pleidians, and it looks like Lou's got enough to handle without that. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: snip By no other name shall you know Him sounds like an instruction for which mantra to use, in a meditation context, assuming that there was such a thing 2000 years ago. Is this what you're thinking of? There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved (Acts 4.12). Jesus' Life was rather dramatic and the vision of Him is one of Love, innocence and following the inner voice. So, that is why I think he has been the 'Rock Star' of Spiritual figures, In terms of the past couple of thousand years So, whatever means you find to draw inspiration, from His life, or wherever you find inspiration, well... That is your meditation. What ever you give your attention to, is your meditation. So, who do you want to inspire you? Who inspires you? What inspires you? That is where spirit leads you. But spirit needs a channel and that channel is You. Muktananda used to love to say That... What you are looking for, is Wwithin... Jesus taught the same. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
I also meant to establish the notion, that there could be other valuble 'names of God' other than strictly Vedic ones. The Name Yeshua for example. The Name Elocheem for example. These are Jewish and Christian names of God... Yeshua for me has a similar vibration to the the mantra Muktananda used. Om Shri Shivaiya Namah Om Similar but different. I would assume there are Buddhist mantras as well. And of course lest we forget the Islamic folks. They have mantras also... So, mantras are good. Yes, it is easy? It is easy, yes? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you and Rick know what MMY and other teachers are still trying to accomplish. I am not. But then again I'm just one of the very few citizen sidhas who still practice the TM and TM Sidhi programs. I was on CCP at MUM for 6 months two years ago. That makes me an even scarcer entity. But I'm still not a teacher and really clued in. What are MMY and other teachers trying to accomplish? It is to make a foolish spectacle, yes? To start a seeming endless array of projects and never do more than give them a launch and lip service, yes? (SniP) Well, they are all attempting to raise the vibration of the student. In whatever way they know how. And according to their state of consciousness. Most people were attracted to Maharishi because of his state of consciousness. Especially in the earlier days, before everything became so dogmatic and serious. He seems to have pulled back around the time that the U.S. court found TM to be a religion. Or, at least I remember Jerry Jarvis freaking out at the time, That part of the plan was to get the TM thing into the mainstream, the 'Days of Merv', and so on... So, I feel when he felt rejected, more and more, from the mainstream; He began to depend on people, who changed the movement into something different then it was. I also felt that people were always wanting more from Maharishi, and the Sidhis, and the group flying thing, were developed around and after the time of the court case. So, I just see Maharishi as someone who was embodying a higher state of consciousness; And attempting to teach as many people in the best way he could. At the same time, I think he took on a lot of meditators karma, and that is why I think he was at times tired. So, he was here; He made quite a mark. And then he left. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, crukstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life as we know it is meaningless. Start a family, develop a career so the family can prosper and have security, Then you die, but hey the young ones are coming up and they can build themselves a life and security, and then they die and their children work and die and their children work and die. We spend our lives striving for permanence, trying to get our hands around life and it slips away every time. Giving up the striving for permanence is a sign of a very mature adult, but the lack of permanence doesn't mean life is meaningless. Raising a loving family is a wonderful thing and many careers enrich society and provide the challenge necessary to bring out an individual's talents. There is no real security, we can die at any moment, but if you truly face that reality and then life in the present moment can be deeply loving and meaningful. I heard MMY on tape refer to this world as a vacuum state of death. It is a cul de sac of birth and death. We are so arrogant in our living bodies, we are the ones that are alive, we will live forever and we die in this dream of life. Most of us here on this forum have had at least a glimpse of that inner light opening up and how alive it makes you feel, how right it seems, like returning to a home that we forgot we had. It's not about this relative existence and how well you do here. There is another side and it is huge, it dwarfs our puny little dream of life. That is our duty, to ourselves and our children, to wake up to that, anything other than that is just like a skipping record, the same story over and over again, leading nowhere. If you're measuring how well you do here by some superficial measurement like accumulation of possessions then that's rather puny, but the hugeness has to be lived here in this body with integrity in order to have any relevance. Then again, who are we to judge another's soul purpose, and what their particular lessons are. And what kind of karma, they may need to repay. I believe Maharishi would talk of this existential emptiness; Toward the latter days. I believe he was really upset with the path the United States had taken, during these Bush years... And I too have felt this kind of two demensional feeling of the collective sometimes. Like it's just about the money and consume, consume, and every jealous of everyone else, and the whole sort of mentality of the baby boomers, the younger people with I-pods glued to ear, everyone walking around not seeing each other, not hearing each other. This is the downside of modern life. This is what needs to change. Not all the rest of the hotdog talk, or whose got the better, whatever. But, how the hell we're all going to, in Rodney King's word's: 'Just get along' With each other, I mean... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: snip Why so upset that people who are working directly for MMY were doing something somewhat differently than you, who were not working directly for him? Jealous? What I don't understand is why Shemp is responding to a post that was made in 2004. What are you talking about? We aren't in 2004? Well, since time is relative, right? Didn't someone prove that thingy...? So, we are in a period in which the idea and reality of 'Linear Time' seems to be changing. Let's face it a Yuga lasts a long, long, long time. And somehow now, we're bottoming out... We're at the maximum polarity, of hot and cold good and evil, Bush and Barack And so on... So, the idea of suddenly shifting from Kali-Yuga, to some other place; Seems like we're at the bottom of the wheel... Or pretty near approaching the bottom of the wheel, like in the Mayan thingy of 2012, and all that jazz... So, the time thingy, needs to become more realized as being the main illusion of the field of Maya...this group consiousness of limited time, sequential time, time clocks, time is money, time for this time for that? So, once we get past the bottom, or the maxing out of the extreme polarities, which is what is felt now, by even the dullest consciousnesss, that the 'times they are a changin', Type of thingy. Well, one of the main things which will change is the perception of this thing call Time... Time horizon for leaving Iraq? We'll see about that. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Raja of India Harris Kaplan on Guru Purnima . watch - listen - and learn the extant that revenues in the TMO will continue to be shipped to India. This is sobering, and unless the policies change dramatically, bodes ill for the TM movement in outside of India, (snip) Here again, could just be the need of the time. The numbers are established here, and the level of interest here, has faded, as we all know. So, we can see, that TM, now would greatly take off in India, as they are attempting to become like us capitalist American's... And it fits in with their culture more, which is obvious. In a way, I feel Maharishi needed to prove himself in the West; In order to promote and maintain the Vedic Values of India; Which I feel was his main goal. In the meantime, he used (in a sort of Capricorn way) -The United States of America, just like everyone else does.(safely in the hands of his current devotees, and pundits. Besides India, is in danger today, of Islamic extememist... From what I hear, it's not so safe there now, because of this; So, it is the 'need of the time?'... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pray for his safety
(snip) I don't think its a clear indication that he was breaking away. I think its a clear indication that he's asserting authority where none officially existed and teh TMO has made thebest of his independent actions by embracing them after the fact. Lawson I think the guy's a Rahshasa and his one redeeming factor is that he didn't spend too much time around his uncle so that he didn't have his individuality and his self-starting abilities beaten out of him. Well, nature abhors a vacumn. So, in a political situation, which this is; who will lead... Then if there is a vacumn in India, then this is a natural response, that was predictable; There doesn't need to be a competition about teaching in India. I'm not sure of all the details, but you could tell something was bound to happen. Power and money tend to corrupt, in general. It would be a shame though, if this shake-up becomes destructive. There just seems to be a lack of leadership? So, in a way, like what is happening in this country... Even though Bush is still president... In the vacumn of leadership that he has created, comes Barack to fill it . As we saw this past week, leading in a positive way, and beginning the healing and trust that the past years of aggressive greed has created. R.G. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Bush Needs to be Impeached, soon!
Dennis Kucinich began inquiring again into impeachment for this criminal President Bush. Hopefully, some of the rest of Congress will have the 'balls' to follow this through. President Bush needs to be impeached, and held for murder charges. He has led this country into the abyss. I pray that either before or soon after Obama is elected that the precedent that Bush and his morons have created is smashed. He is absolutely the most irresponsible leader since the days of Rome and Caligula. Actually I believe he is a reincarnation of Caligula.
[FairfieldLife] 'Obama moves Mountains'
Barack Obama is destined to become the next President. He is a very evolved soul, and carries the energy of Abraham Lincoln. Wherever he goes, he inspires and uplifts and brings people together. He is an inspiration to all the people of the world. Osama bin Laden should fear Obama, because unlike the demon Bush, he will pursue the evil one, and it shall be done. Mountains moves with the power of a leader of such greatness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush Needs to be Impeached, soon!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.G. Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:35 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Bush Needs to be Impeached, soon! Dennis Kucinich began inquiring again into impeachment for this criminal President Bush. Hopefully, some of the rest of Congress will have the 'balls' to follow this through. President Bush needs to be impeached, and held for murder charges. He has led this country into the abyss. I pray that either before or soon after Obama is elected that the precedent that Bush and his morons have created is smashed. He is absolutely the most irresponsible leader since the days of Rome and Caligula. Actually I believe he is a reincarnation of Caligula. When Obama was in FF, I asked him about impeaching Bush and Cheney. He said he felt it would be too disruptive - that Congress wouldn't get anything else accomplished - but he said that if elected, one of his first moves would be to have his attorney general review everything Bush and Cheney had done to erode the Constitution, and that he would reverse those decisions so as to repair the damage. There was a Hearing yesterday in Congress... The idea is that Bush has set such an example that to not take action against him would set a horrible precedent. The only way to prosecute him, would be to start impeachment hearings, Because he will just ignore anything else the congress could do. When I was in Seattle, attending the caucus, I did see that part of Obama's platform would be to prosecute Bush and the rest of the criminals. The thing is, while he is still president, we are still in danger of him doing something crazy, before Obama gets sworn in. Especially if he knows that he will be prosecuted, and might take any crazy action to protect his demon ass.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama levitates! He floats!
(snip) Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama? (snip) With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance and consonance; Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing? Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together in order to get it right. Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world? Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies? Who would you like to see as President. Did you vote for Bush twice? Obama is a gift for this country. Anyone who doesn't see and feel that is just spiritually dead, as far as I'm concerned.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya
Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama? (snip) With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance and consonance; Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing? Don't you get the feeling that he knows we have to come together in order to get it right. Do you have any sense of what is going on in this sick world? Do you have any sense of real and false, Truth and Lies? Who would you like to see as President. Did you vote for Bush twice? Obama is a gift for this country. Anyone who doesn't see and feel that is just spiritually dead, as far as I'm concerned. Let him apply some of that alleged spirituality to quitting smoking. So, smoking is your problem with him- I see... Well, you know, FDR smoked cigarettes; so did JFK. Bush doesn't smoke, Condi don't smoke, Cheney don't smoke. What the hell does smoking have to do with anything? Besides he's quitting. Many of the GI's looked forward to having a cig, during WWII in their battle against the pure evil of German Nazism. Hitler was a vegatarian. If that is the only thing you have against the guy, That is really a weak argument. I think your just a common American racist.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kumbaya, R.G., Kumbaya
Look, I'm no big fan of McCain, but Obama? (snip) With all of this talk of the evolution of meditation, and dissonance and consonance; Don't you hear something in his voice that is harmonizing? Lord Humungus from The Road Warrior had the most harmonizing voice. (snip) Who the hell is Lord Humungus? This is beyond me. As far as spiritually dead, most of the people are spiritually dead. So, it's not surprising. You're just a part very large sheep-like crowd...
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you don't support Obama, you're a racist!
(snip) Is you ability to defend Obama so weak that you have to resort to calling those that don't support him racists? that they are racists and we'll see how that plays in Peoria. (snip) Let me make it clear- America is a racist country. Bush has made the situation much worse, pitting rich against poor, and dividing the country and creating fear and more greed. Peoria is in Illinois, and Obama is sure to win Illinois. So, the Peoria thing don't work. It is a fact that Gov. Ed Rendell said, when he was supporting Hillary. That, A Black man can't win. So, it is obvious most of the people who find fault with him are racist. It's obvious to me, at least. If that is not where you're coming from then I appoligize. But my feeling is, if he were white like you, you wouldn't have a problem with him. Am I wrong?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seth Cohen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh bummer. Just catching up and this is. I'll miss Seth. A great character. A meditator. Fun funny. Quick satire. A good friend always through the years. Is always disappointing when the characters leave. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF The passing of Seth Cohen has had a big effect on me. Seth touched of place within me, that still had some innocence. He was a loving soul...I guess the good die young, as they say. And I was reminded of the days long ago, when there still was some innocence left, in this world. That feeling of innocence is long gone. And, with the passing of Seth, it's like the end of an era. The end of a time of innocence. So, what is left, I am wondering? Keep hope alive? Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you got 'till, It's gone... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation
(snip) It doesn't really explain how mantras came to be so powerful, if indeed they are actually different from any other randomly chosen sound. (snip) technique is? Difficult to know but even the geographic whereabouts of early spiritual (cultures would be interesting. (snip) According to Maharishi's teaching, the mantras came from the earliest time on earth, from Seers of the Vedas. The name/form concept is very important to understand in terms of the Vedas. In those early days, according to Maharishi, the atmosphere was pure enough, and the Sages attuned enough, that cognition of the sound or vibration was exactly equal to it's counterpart, whether physical or non-physical... So, it appears that Maharishi used the most universal mantras, because he believed in 'safety first'... The mantras used relate to the Goddess Saraswati, Godhead Rama, Vishnu manifestation Krishna, and perhaps a few others, which I don't know about. These mantras are called 'bija' mantras or 'seed' mantras... As they are the simplest sound/vibration of that aspect of nature. Maharishi seemed to relate all of these deities to aspects of The Laws of Nature... And, therefore, when one became attuned or vibrated with these aspects of nature, then one would become 'attuned to all the laws of nature' and 'sponaneous support of those laws of nature would arise to fulfill your every desire. Now, all of this information, and cogniton of the Vedas, according to Maharishi, happened long ago, and far away, on the 'time-line horizon'. So, much of the attempt of Maharishi, was to purify the earth enough, or at least a portion of it, so that one could transcend the chaos of the present day, and it's lack of attunement to nature, and to give people the experience of those early days of pure earth, pure intention, beautiful time, on earth. So, when he referred to a time on earth, where we could live heaven on earth. He was also referring to a past time, from where these teachings come. As far as finding a more 'powerful mantra' somewhere; Where would you look? The bija mantras that Maharishi chose, makes sense to me. They are the most universal; But more importantly... The use of the mantra, the effortless technique is the main difference between Maharishi's teaching, and the main thrust of the power of the teaching. The downfall of the movement, in retro-spect came when it strayed from effortlessness, naturalness and became contrived. When the movement became more concerned with power, than with peace. Politically that is the period we are coming through now. You can associate the change in the TM movement with the political change to Reagan in the 80's... This is when the movement and America lost it's 'innocence' and became possessed with other things. Corporatization of America, strange video games, and a sort of anti- counter culture movement, which gave rise to all kinds of extremes, in the TM movement, as well as a brittleness to American culture, which continues today. An inflexibility, stubborness and arrogance. Anyway, a few thoughts I was pondering today... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrate 25th Anniversary of Taste of Utopia-Thurs. July 24, 8:15pm
The assembly was from December 1983 to January 1984, so this would be only 24 1/2 month anniversary. Might be a better time of year; As the original 'Taste of Utopia' couse, began with the temperatures in Fairfield, the night Maharishi arrived approached minus 40 below zero. Many pipes froze the next morning. Cedar Rapid reporters were on the scene showing thousands of shivering meditators waiting in the cold for a glimpse of the famous Guru. In town the 'tongue in cheek' was: 'Thank God this is only a taste of utopia...' (snip)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The evolution of meditation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Hugo wrote: Interesting article here: http://mysterytopia.com/2008/07/meditate-on-it.html It doesn't really explain how mantras came to be so powerful, if indeed they are actually different from any other randomly chosen sound. Think resonance. It is the resonant qualities of the sound which determine the effect and the basis for Nada Yoga (the science of sound). Remember the TM lecture example of scratching your fingernails on the blackboard as an example of a sound that wouldn't probably make very good mantra. :) Proof by analogy is just lame. Using an extreme example proves nothing. There is no detectable difference between sounds like the mantra sounds and any other ordinary word. This is just an claim supported by religious assertion IMO. Nonsense. Go read up on nada yoga rather than make up your own folk philosophy. And apparently you would think that there is no difference between dissonance and consonance in music by your folk philosophy. :D :D :D What is nada yoga? Where do you see dissonance and consonance? What the hell are you talking about?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2008 Elections May Get Canceled!!!
(snip) So, when do you expect the big take-over to happen? I thought it already kind of happened 2008 Elections May Get Canceled!!! Please pass these videos to at least one friend on your email if your not gonna watch. If you do not believe what your about to see please google the subject. Most of the bills are on the WhiteHouse.gov website. For more info you can got to http://www.truthzonetv.com or http://www.myspace.com/pageofknowledge Please watch! The Warning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bNDPioifrUfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6sWyYP7Ko4NR=1 Bush joking about being a dictator. http://www.truthzonetv.com/view_video.php?video_id=10 What we choose to ignore... http://www.truthzonetv.com/view_video.php?video_id=25 Martial Law hint to the masses from M.T.V. http://www.truthzonetv.com/view_video.php?video_id=177 Concentration Camp Survival http://www.truthzonetv.com/view_video.php?video_id=311 A war with Iran can also become a trigger for martial law as war has already been declared. Judge for yourself. http://www.truthzonetv.com/view_video.php?video_id=339 The End Of America Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:... All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self- evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.-- Dresden James Truth: the most deadly weapon ever discovered by humanity. Capable of destroying entire perceptual sets, cultures, and realities. Outlawed by all governments everywhere. Possession is normally punishable by death.-- John Gilmore This directive was signed by the president on May 9th of this year. This is the same directive Adolf Hitler imposed on the german poeple. Please refer to www.whitehouse.gov to get the full version if in disbelief. These vids will also give more insight on this directive should you choose. Please pass this on to friends an loved ones. Thank you. âThe masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.â Gustave Le Bon, âThe Crowdâ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell Humility is nothing but truth, and pride is nothing but lying. -- Vincent de Paul Bush jokes about being a dictator http://youtube.com/watch?v=aD3xfT0c99g Details on document signing http://youtube.com/watch?v=mMs733gFg-I Bush Jr Hitler paradigm. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6tTQ34y4Ww0 George HW Bush Hitler/Nazi Connection.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=h8AdSHKywEU F.E.M.A. Directive 51 Martial Law Connection. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jl1VIhdpl4c EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial
[FairfieldLife] Re: Saharan Solar Power could provide all Europe's electricity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: A tiny rectangle superimposed on the vast expanse of the Sahara captures the seductive appeal of the audacious plan to cut Europe's carbon emissions by harnessing the fierce power of the desert sun. Dwarfed by any of the north African nations, it represents an area slightly smaller than Wales but scientists claimed yesterday it could one day generate enough solar energy to supply all of Europe with clean electricity. Speaking at the Euroscience Open Forum in Barcelona, Arnulf Jaeger-Walden of the European commission's Institute for Energy, said it would require the capture of just 0.3% of the light falling on the Sahara and Middle East deserts to meet all of Europe's energy needs. The scientists are calling for the creation of a series of huge solar farms - producing electricity either through photovoltaic cells, or by concentrating the sun's heat to boil water and drive turbines - as part of a plan to share Europe's renewable energy resources across the continent. Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/23/solarpower.windpower And Reagan when he took office had the solar panels that Carter had put up removed. Shows you what a bunch of dumbass oil company suck ups the Republicans are. They are the people to blame for the fix we're in and don't let anyone tell you different (because they are most likely a Republican shill). Reagan began a process that has led to Bush. Hopefully this cycle will be over soon. Or, it might be too, too late?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
(snip) ...but Bevan's speech taken together with the fact that Girish' website has nary a mention of King Tony is quite suspicious, no? It looks pretty straight forward to me... What exactly does this Indian fellow need Bevan for? And the King? This are symbols for them of Enlish Rule, on some level, I believe. So, take this at face value. I'm not quite sure, why Maharishi had Bevan as a mouth piece? Anyone know, for sure, how or why Bevan got so much 'percieved' power? I've never been able to figure this thing out. It's like Bush being President...doesn't make any sense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) Did any of it ever make sense? The crowns, the endless backslapping speeches, why didn't they just get on and teach people to meditate. Because MMY told them to do all this crap, and they are just carrying on like some wind-up toy that doesn't know what else to do. Maybe if Girish has ceceded it will snap them out of their world of make-believe kings and global countries and get them to do some bloody work for a change. But I think it's too late, there isn't the interest anymore and too many other places to learn TM without having to deal with the concept of Silent King Tony. Well, to me, from the little I've heard; If he's lowered the prices for TM; Then he is a patriot for his country. India is well on it's way... Just remind me of the earlier, more innocent days of the TM movement in this country; before the whole Bevan take-over occurred What's wrong with what he is proposing in India, exactly? Teaching many people, is what the movement was all about. Somewhere along the line, it lost it's way... And became very 'elitist'... Why, I don't know? Anyone know?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsession By The Numbers (stats on how obsessed Judy is with Barry)
Do you have a thing for Judy or something?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma leadership challenge?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bettyblue109 no_reply@ quite often when a spiritual leader dies, their organization will splinter, Yogananda, Muktananda etc (snip) So, whose really running things around here? And, what about Jesus? What happened to that movement? And Buddha? What about Mohammad Ali? Who is he fighting now? Abraham, Martin and John... Remember to vote. While we're still able...
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Obama arrives in war zone'
(snip) You aren't with it if your middle name isn't Hussein- (snip) I spoke to some arab dudes about the name 'Hussein'... Whether it was some kind of title or something. They told me it means: 'beaufiful'...like in beautiful man... That type of thing. Yeah, those 'light workers' really stir up those 'dark workers' don't they?... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Obama arrives in war zone'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: -and responds from a larger set of considerations and perspectives. The reason why he kicks around ideas and responds from a larger set of considerations is because he needs time for his 300 plus advisors to formulate the correct idea for him. And that's just his *foreign policy* advisors. This is why he has so much potential... Because there is so much energy and intelligence, Just ready to burst forth, and give new ideas, new directions... And Senator Obama is an open soul, and ready to recieve; Unlike the closed minded approach we have been through. Where you have 'group think' based in Mafia tactics; And just a handful of people making all the decisions for the rest of us...
[FairfieldLife] Re: News about Seth Cohen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 2008, at 6:37 PM, pranamoocher wrote: Seth is the Godfather to many TM followers. JOOC, prana, what does that mean, exactly? I hope he is ok. Sal 'Seth= One of the Good Guys'
[FairfieldLife] Re: News about Seth Cohen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 2008, at 8:35 PM, sgrayatlarge wrote: OK, Seth went to MIU in the mid to late 70's ,went to Governor training, currently lives in Boulder, so is known to many in the TM community and I thought that I might reach some of his old friends (which have emailed me already) to share news of his grave illness. So mysterious. Is that doublespeak for, He has AIDS, but he's asked me not to say that? Sal He doesn't have AIDs. He inspired a lot of people, with his sense of humor, and his honesty, and light-heartedness. In a way, he does remind one of Marlin Brando, in his nature, to see the world from a rather interesting perspective. I haven't seen him for a long time, but I know he got very sick once, On a course in India. They had to stop the plane in Greece, because he was so ill with some intestinal thing; He has been close to death, this past week; This is a message to all of his friends, Who love Seth.
[FairfieldLife] 'Wear a Burka...'
If women are not covered in traditional style, there will be a 'Saudi guy, from the deserts of Saudi Arabia... He has been hired by the TMO... so, you ladies be very careful, you don't get 'wacked', If you come to this 'celebration', dressed in 'improper gear'... Now, there will be a 'black cube' symbolic of darkness, of absence of light... And we will be going into some kind of 'frenzy', twisting and turning around in a negative, conterclockwise direction... In praise of who knows what? The bombers and gun slingers, wait for the call. We hope it doesn't come. We are hopeful that the call to arms doesn't come. There are so many more important things in this world, then would appear. No wonder Maharishi says, 'Guru is Everything'. Just think when Bramhacharya Mahesh went to be with Guru Dev. The one who radiated a type of silence. that would make one's in his presence, kind of 'spacial'... Now, during this same period, when Bramhacharya Mahesh was with Guru Dev. On the other side of the world. People were raping and murdering other's... For no apparent reason at all. Jewish people escaping the demonic currents in Europe, Were denied access to the United States, for refuge. Some people in the United States actually supported this: 'Attempted Demonic Take-Over of This World'... My own father, who passed away few months ago, Well, he fought in that war, In Patton's army, mostly in the snows of Czech Republic. It was hard, it was dirty work. He came home feeling proud, he and they had 'Won the War'. The voted Ike in. A German General, a United States President. Eisenhower, who demanded the people 'witnessed' what humanity had done to itself. The ugliness of it all. His stomach was stronger than most. Patton puked up, and could not be there, In the camps, the death camps. Eisenhower- A great man. Now, why make fun of Marshy? That is a silly thing, if you ask me... He was just this 'little guy', with a big heart. The choices he made in his life... Brought him great satisfaction(unlike Mick)... Anyway...Praise Jesus... for the little guy R.g. Jai Guru Dev His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, On the 1st Anniversary of Mahasamadhi, July, 2008.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm 8:15pm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: I'm about a mile and a half from the dooms-- if I close my eyes, face east, try to think pure thoughts and maybe throw some salt over my shoulder, will that make a diff? Sal Without a positive bone in your body positive thoughts are for you just a dream. Do you feel the 'Parting of the Sea?'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and Maharishi
(snip) Lutes as close to MMY ? What a joke ! Maharishi cut off that nutcase, as you know very well. I always assumed people who were close to Maharishi, from the early days, Were pushed out by people like Bevan Morris and Co. I'm not sure what you mean by nutcase?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm 8:15pm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Dress: In keeping with the special character of Guru Purnima in the Vedic calendar, everyone should wear their most dignified dress. Ladies should wear saris or long dresses or long skirts (no pants or punjabis) and completely cover their heads and shoulders with the sari or shawls/scarves in the Dome--to be dressed properly for a Vedic performance. Men should wear coat and tie or a dress kurta with nice pants. No one should wear anything made of leather into the Dome (after removing shoes as usual in the shoe areas) such as belts, wallets, watchbands, or purses. Ladies' consideration: As is the Vedic tradition, ladies who are pregnant or having their monthly cycle should not attend. And some misguided souls have suggested that the TM organization is a weird Hindu cult. This should dispel all those ugly rumors. Barry, I was hoping that someone with a little more sense of humor than I was able to summon up upon reading that would respond. Thanks. It would be great satire if it wasn't actually for real. Sal I heard from a woman, one time, that men were kind of afraid of a woman's power, when she was in her monthly cycle, and of course a pregnant woman is certainly a powerhouse of Life... Seems like this prejudice has to do more with making a woman feel 'dirty' or 'less then'... Sad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm 8:15pm
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. Leviticus 15:19-24 = Transcendental Meditation is supposed to be about *enlightenment*. What a load of horse shit! I am willing to bet any amount, that this stuff was not written by a woman. As a matter of fact, woman have been excluded from many spiritual/educational opportunities through the ages. In ancient Greece, it was the same. Only men, had the opportunity, to attend school and be educated. The term going 'Greek', goes back to this time, As the Greeks were into homosexuality, as a result of lack of woman in the schools, in ancient Greece. No, really
[FairfieldLife] 'Buddhist Leader/The14th Dalai Lama/To Appear in Madison'
Tibetans Buddhists Courageously Speak Out Against Dalai Lama's Claiming Religious Discrimination, this Saturday in Madison WI This Saturday, 600 Buddhists with one voice will protest against the Dalai Lama claiming a campaign of religious intolerance and immoral discrimination against the Buddhist community who practice the protective deity Dorje Shugden. This Western Shugden Society organized demonstration hopes to expose the abuse of the Dalai Lama's dual political and religious status, by which all Tibetan-exiles must take a public oath to abandon this spiritual practice as well as association with anyone who practices this 400 year old Buddhist Deity, in order to receive a state issued identity card. Without this identity card it is difficult and sometimes impossible to purchase food in many stores, receive medical treatment, and obtain travel documents. The protests is scheduled to take place Saturday, July 19th and promises to be colorful and lively event, with passionate Tibetan and English changt and bright placards spotting the crowd. (PRWEB) July 17, 2008 -- This Saturday, 600 Buddhists with one voice will protest against the Dalai Lama claiming a campaign of religious intolerance and immoral discrimination against the Buddhist community who practice the protective deity Dorje Shugden. This Western Shugden Society organized demonstration hopes to expose what they categorize as abuse of the Dalai Lama's dual political and religious status, by which all Tibetan-exiles must take a public oath to abandon this spiritual practice as well as association with anyone who practices this 400 year old Buddhist Deity, in order to receive a state issued identity card. Without this identity card it is difficult and sometimes impossible to purchase food in many stores, receive medical treatment, and obtain travel documents. The protests is scheduled to take place Saturday, July 19th and promises to be colorful and lively event, with passionate Tibetan and English changt and bright placards spotting the crowd. Through utilizing the free press unavailable in the Tibetan Exile communities, Tibetan and western Buddhists have come together in Madison during the Dalai Lama's week of teaching to speak out against this discrimination and persecution. Kelsang Pema, Western Buddhist nun and spokesperson for the Western Shugden Society (WSS) will be available on sight for interviews and questions and in an unprecedented act, DVDs of first-hand testimonial's of Tibetans and westerners around the world speaking out about their victimization at the hands of this celebrity monk, the Dalai Lama, will be available. The Dalai Lama will come to Madison and talk about peace and compassion, but he is not practicing what he is teaching. In India, thousands of innocent monks have been expelled from their monasteries, supporters denied food and travel visas, families are being ostracized from their communities and countless Shugden Temples and statues destroyed. We need to demonstrate because none of the other methods we have tried have succeeded in bringing about a meaningful discussion with him. Our only aim is to have this ban lifted so that millions of innocent people can continue with their spiritual life in peace and harmony. For Further Information visit www.westernshugdensociety.org Media Contacts- Kelsang Thubchen 845-856-9000 -5636 Shelley Tanner 917-620-2598 Kelsang Norden 848-565-8771
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm 8:15pm
(snip) Gotta draw the line somewhere, right? Sal What I'd like to know is whether all the good women of FF who frequent the domes are going to boycott this celebration. My guess is not, as they're probably too far gone into cultsville to even realise they are being screwed over by some ancient bigot's ideas. But I live in hope. Trouble is when these women are excluded, they could join together in their own celebration, of the feminine forces of nature, spill thier blood on the ground, etc... All that stuff, that us men know not too much about, and kind of don't wanna know too much about. Then again, they could really rebel and form covens of sorts, and become witches, and really show you guys how to fly... Ha ha ha ha ha
[FairfieldLife] Re: ME and HP?
(snip) As Donald Trump would say (I guess): That's gonna be hyooge! I afraid it's going to be the final proof that Maharishi Effect really works! :D Yep, someone was saying yesterday, something about people still being able to make moolah, in the so-called 'tought times' we're in.. Well anyway, the devil still gets his due, I see... BTW, this Russian guy, who bought the place, is planning on knocking down the actual structure, and starting over... Perhaps a rep from Vedic Buildings, could head down there , and make him an offer he couldn't refuse. Funny thing, the Russian guy made his money in the fertilizer business. Same business, 'The Donald' is in...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa one of fattest states outside of South
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: http://calorielab.com/news/2008/07/02/fattest-states-2008/ Yes it seems to be a very kapha state as of late. ;-) I'm sorry, but I think we have that honor, up here in Wisconsin?...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Air Obama
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much you wanna bet that Nabby is going to try and convince us that what Obama is doing is NOT actually flying but something as silly as playing some sort of, guffaw, sports game. Ahh, Shucks, and I thought he was levitating; I'm so naive?
[FairfieldLife] 'Former President Clinton/Will Work for Obama for Pres.'
NEW YORK (AP) - Former President Clinton said Thursday he is eager to campaign for Barack Obama whenever the Democrat needs him, but has not given any thought to whether he wants to speak at the party convention in Denver. I told him that whenever he wanted me to do it, I was ready, and so it's basically on their timetable, Clinton said. He's got a lot of things to do between now and the convention, of which this is simply one, so I'll do whatever I'm asked to do, whenever I can do it. Relations between Clinton and Obama have only just began to thaw since Obama defeated the former president's wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in the bruising Democratic primary that ended last month. Throughout that bare-knuckle race, Bill Clinton had portrayed Obama as too inexperienced to be president. Since Obama clinched the nomination, it has remained an open question as to what role Clinton would play in the campaign. Just weeks ago, Obama called the former president to ask for his help in winning the White House. At a news conference for his foundation's work, Clinton said he had not thought about whether he would like to be a convention speaker. Typically former presidents get a prime-time speaking spot at the party gathering. Clinton said he had a good talk with Obama on the phone and is eager to get out on the road for the Illinois senator. Clinton also was asked whether he had spoken to the Rev. Jesse Jackson regarding the crude off-air remark Jackson made about Obama in what he thought was a private conversation during a taping of a Fox Friends news program. Clinton said he had not spoken with Jackson, but added that Jackson was right to apologize to Obama for the comments. He also was a bit sympathetic. If all of us lived on live mics, then 100 percent of us in this room would be embarrassed from time to time, Clinton said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm 8:15pm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, What you write is funny -- and as Sal conveyed, its a mocking of ourselves in a past life. That said, your post made me think about religious tolerance. I mean few of us would poke fun at hasidic jews, buddhists, muslims, etc in traditional garb, or practice. Its more as if we think, not for me, or not something I am familiar with, but you seem to thrive on it so more power to you bro. So where is the line between such -- and cults. I mean I have made my share of fun of scientologists, TBs, and all. Probably not my best moments. But I am not clear -- where is the line in the arena of religious (and ethnic) tolerance and diversity between respecting wierd practices and garb of some traditions, and making fun of others. I don't know. (snipity, snip, snip, snip!) Well, it was the same in Jesus' time; Mockery was big then... The Jews were especially suseptible to this kind of thing: as they belived in some 'Transcendental God' of which was 'Invisible'... And which was no 'match' for the Roman Empire, or the 'Legions of Rome' The Romans had made an artform of war, and the demonic. There were spells of every kind, Plagues that would send chills up your spine... Complete and utter degredation of life and 'Liberty as We know it now.'... So, Also, Mockery was big in Germany before and during the 'Holocaust'. 'Mockery' is the main tool used at Abu Garabh prison in Iraq... If you look closely at the pictures, you can tell, 'Mockery is big in demonic circles... The dark side loves to mock. They feed off the energy of mocking. Like Lizards Squirming and Writhing and Baking in the Sun. They never sleep, and when they do, it's not peaceful.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
(snip) Yes, schools have had trouble, there is chaos and these are problems that stem from our culture in general as well as parenting difficulties. I had and have no doubt that having students do TM twice a day, or even once a day, at school would be wonderfully beneficial. My concerns were: 1. once parents actually get wind of the puja and the other trappings of the TMO, there will a large number who object and the backlash against TM (snip) This already happened, so you don't have to worry. This whole thing was brought to Federal Court, concerning the Puja, and it being a religious thing- So, it was banned from being taught in schools. So, there you go; the chaos ensued from that stupid decision as well as others. The belief in God or a Higher Power or any universal principle, is not taught in school. There are obviously more important things. Very sad situation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
(snip) If (IF) anyone in the TMO is currently floating, I would expect it to be King Tony. MMY claimed to have examined Abu-Nader's state of consciousness in all aspects and found him worthy. He appeared to have tears in his eyes when he was talking on this subject, which is something I don't recall ever seeing before. Of course, I may be reading far too much into this, but it's an interesting thought, no? Lawson This is where I would differ with you. I'm not sure that if someone is enlightened, that they automatically have the ability to 'float'. There are many enlightened ones who don't have ths ability. This is one area of confusion- that in order to prove your enlightenment, you would have to be able to perform this siddhi. Even in Yogananda's book, 'Autobiography of a Yogi, he mentions someone who could levitate; But that was only one person, who seemed to have that as his concentration. Yogananda himself, didn't mention anything about him levitating himself. Just as Maharishi, had trouble answering a question, on one of the last TM shows, he did in the U.S. on the 'Dick Cavette Show'. When Mr.Cavette pressed Maharishi on whether he could levitate or not, Maharishi avoided the question, and said something like, that was not his thing, to levitate. I feel the group meditation and siddhi practice has more to do with the effect on the group, and outside the group; group coherence it is called. So, this whole thing, concerning the actual ability to float, is kind of a mystery... It would be nice to have someone who was actually having the experience, explain it from a personal vantage point. So far, it remains a puzzle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Obama won't win(Hillary's Debt)
(snip) Concerning giving the Clinton's more money... Is there anyone else in any campaign that offered to pay of a rivals debt. Having gotten into debt in itself, shows irresponsiblity, and arrogance. Most of the debt is owed to consultants that helped her to lose the election. Did anyone help Romney pay his debt; no, he is wealthy and spent his own money. The Clinton's are wealthy people. It's just another way, the Clinton's can say- Look, Obama's no good; He won't pay our way, and our old debts. I wonder if the shoe were on the other foot... and Barack had debts to pay... I'm sure the Clinton's would be running to the bank to withdraw money, so they could give it to Barack? I don't think so... How many more millions do the Clinton's really need?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: This already happened, so you don't have to worry. This whole thing was brought to Federal Court, concerning the Puja, and it being a religious thing- So, it was banned from being taught in schools. So, there you go; the chaos ensued from that stupid decision as well as others. The belief in God or a Higher Power or any universal principle, is not taught in school. There are obviously more important things. Very sad situation. The sad situation is that there are people on this planet who think that a belief in God *should* be taught in schools, as if it were fact. What should be taught is an *overview* of world religions and spiritual beliefs, dispassionately and with NONE of them being presented as correct or right, much less best. Atheism and belief systems such as Buddhism that do not have a God concept should be taught right alongside the God- based systems. No *techniques* from any of these belief systems should ever be taught in the schools, only the dogma and theory that the belief systems espouse. IMO this would prepare students to *make their own decisions* about such things. They can decide to have something to do with one or more of these belief systems based on knowledge of *what they are*, and knowledge of what the other competing belief systems are. Anyone who wants only ONE belief system to be taught in school systems is a religious fanatic. America and its founding fathers had a dim view of such fanatics. It's good to remember that the famous quote by Thomas Jefferson that graces his memorial in Washington D.C. was written about an attempt by one religious group (Christian) to introduce its teachings into a school system. Jefferson was quite clear how he felt about that: I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man. Suffice it to say I share his hostility towards anyone from ANY religion or belief system who tries to have his beliefs -- and ONLY his beliefs -- taught in schools. In that sense, I am still an American, and despise those who would try to change it into the very opposite of what it was founded to be. There is a belief that is taught primarily: God= Money
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I'd love to see Tony Nader fly, it would make my day! I can't think of a reason why someone wouldn't want to demonstrate sidhi powers. The old I don't want to be remembered as a circus act excuse doesn't wash, if you want people to believe you know what you're talking about I can think of no better way. I can -- knowing what you're talking about. :-) Seriously, that is the component that was missing in many of Maharishi's pronouncements. He clearly had no grasp of the *issues*, much less his proposed solutions to them. Ok, I *know* that most folks here don't believe that I witnessed siddhis being performed. But I did, *whatever* caused me to witness them. So did liter- ally hundreds of other people who attended Rama's talks. So did having witnessed these things convince everyone that he knew what he was talking about? No, it didn't. I have seen someone I brought to a talk (a TMer) exclaim during the meditation He's levitating! or Shit...he just disappeared, and then, the next day, claim that she had seen and experienced nothing whatsoever out of the ordinary. In a matter of hours she had managed to blot out any memories of what she had seen and experienced and *admitted* seeing and experiencing the night before. The SAME thing would happen with a large percentage of people if someone in the TMO *could* fly, and demonstrated it. Only a small percentage of those witnessing the phenomenon would 1) believe that they had actually seen it, or 2) ascribe knowing what he's talking about-ness to the person who flew. It's just human nature, Richard. Over the years I have heard many, many people here say, All the TMO would have to do is demonstrate levitation and all of the doubts would stop. It's simply not true. It's something that people who have never witnessed such phenomena themselves believe. Those who have know better. In a remarkably short time, these phenomena become background, and assumed, and kinda ho-hum. I found myself sitting in lecture halls or out in the desert thinking, Oh...he's levitating again...big deal. Besides, as far as I can tell, there is NO RELATIONSHIP between being able to perform siddhis and one's state of consciousness, or one knowing what he's talking about. Apples and oranges. The non-enlightened can perform siddhis, and many of the enlightened cannot. Again, it is the *rarity* of these phenomena (together with self-serving dogma from spiritual traditions) that claims that there is a link between siddhis and enlightenment. I perceive no such link. Back in the early days of his teaching, neither did Maharishi. He gave several talks at Squaw Valley in which he said that being able to perform siddhis had NO relationship to one's state of consciousness. Later he changed his tune, coincidentally after he had found a way to make money by claiming to teach people siddhis. Bottom line is that my experience tells me that demonstrations of people flying -- REAL, unfaked demos of people flying -- would convince only a small percentage of people that the phenomenon was actually taking place. The others would find a way to make it go away, and to pretend that they had never seen what they saw. I've seen it happen over and over and over and over. Again, it's just human nature. A lot of the people HERE who claim that they would like to see siddhis being performed would wind up denying that they had seen them. I would imagine that the same happened in Jesus' day. No matter what the sidhi was which was performed, Some wouldn't see it, understand it, etc. I do think this is true, what has been said above.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is it that most people are most afraid of?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is just a café rap inspired by a previous post to Richard Hughes earlier today, about whether demos of people flying would radically change people's minds about the TMO. If you didn't like the original rap, you aren't going to like this one, so hit NEXT now. :-) So what is the Big Bad Boogey Man, the thing that most people on this planet are most afraid of? Some are going to say death, but I'm going to disagree. That's kind of a given, and most people have found ways to either never think about the prospect or to have some comforting belief about what death involves. So, are most people most afraid of terrorism? Of losing their jobs or a way to make a living and ending up poor and homeless? Of bad things happening to them or their loved ones? If you watch the news, it's clear that all of these are BIG fears in the minds of a lot of people on this planet. But I don't think any of them is the biggest fear, the Big Bad Boogey Man himself. I think that the BBBM -- the thing that most people are most afraid of -- is cognitive dissonance. Most people are most afraid of changing their minds. I think that the thing they fear the most is that the belief systems that they have constructed or adopted to explain the world around them and how it works are wrong or incomplete, and that if they ever admit this, they'll be in a position of Having No Clue, having to start over and come up with a *new* belief system to explain the world around them. My theory -- and it's ONLY a theory, a half-baked opinion -- explains SO MUCH of what we see in the world around us, and on this forum. Think about the sometimes over-the-top ways that people react to the idea that maybe Maharishi wasn't right about everything, or that America is not exactly the beacon of wealth, happiness, liberty, justice, and freedom for all it pretends to be. Some people go CRAZY when these beliefs are challenged. And WHY? Well, I think it's because they perceive -- and correctly -- that if the things that these heretics are saying about the things that they believe are true, then their beliefs themselves are not true, or not complete. And if that were so, what then? The people who react with anger or TBness IMO perceive a quagmire of *cognitive dissonance* lurking behind the heretics and what they are saying. And they're right. But WHY do they fear this? One would think that a seeker of truth would be *pleased* to discover that his previous beliefs about a subject were incorrect or only partially correct. That would mean that the seeker HAD LEARNED SOMETHING NEW. He or she would have *grown*, expanded his or her knowledge of the world around them. They wouldn't have lost anything at all, except the illusory certainty that they knew everything about the world around them already. As a Buddhist, what I see in the overreactions some have to their core beliefs being challenged is attachment. If they were unattached to their beliefs, what would there be to fear in having to change them, based on new information? And yet people DO fear changing their beliefs. They fight WARS to keep from changing their beliefs, and to impose those beliefs on others. I think these people are fearful for no reason, and that cognitive dissonance is a Good Thing. I think it's the thing that indicates progress -- both intellectual progress and spiritual progress. If you still believe exactly the same things today that you did last year, IMO you have made no progress and learned nothing new during that year. The fearful would say, But...but...but my beliefs haven't changed because they're RIGHT. That could be. Or it could be that their fear that their beliefs AREN'T right or complete has made them attack or close themselves off to new knowledge that might reveal that their previous beliefs weren't right ENOUGH. They weren't quite there yet. So, my theory is that the Biggest Baddest Boogey Man for most people is the fear of cognitive dissonance -- the realization that something you believed could not possibly happen IS happening, right in front of you. Or conversely, that the things you believed with absolute certainty will happen aren't happening. When they are confronted with the potential for cognitive dissonance, they react with the fight or flight response -- they lash out or close down, to try to make that potential GO AWAY. IMO, what they are lashing out at and closing themselves off to is the universe trying to teach them something new. Very insightful post, Thanks...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Obama won't win
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: [snip] and the McCain people who are afraid of any change and are mostly racists. Wake up; We live in a racist country, everyone knows it. Just stated the facts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Obama won't win
(snip) Obama's effort to pay Hillary's campaign debts might not be enough to please Hillary. He should hold those funds as leverage to insure cooperation. He doesn't need any leverage. She wants to see a Democrat in the White House whether he helps pay her debts or not. (snip) Why should anyone but Hillary be responsible for her debts. The Clinton's seem fine with making lot's of money. Is she really that 'broke' now? Don't think so. Her ego has fallen a notch or two, and Bill is still making speeches. Where is the problem. Obama is a better speaker, more intelligent, more universal leader for the United States and the World. Hillary will do alright; I wouldn't worry about her finances too much. Why would you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
--- (snip) Where is there a *warning* against performing teh siddhis in (Snip) I was thinking that when Maharishi used the 'Capture the Fort' analogy, he was speaking of this. That there are many powers that one could concentrate and forget the goal... Enlightenment. So, in many ways, the siddis techniques which go have the effect you are saying... In many ways, one could be confused, in that 'are we here to levitate, to prove something to somebod... or Are we here to transcend, and become enlightened?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
(snip) For example, even back in the 70's I did not feel that TM should be taught in public schools, altho MMY was having Jerry Jarvis and others defend the TMO in court. I just saw that issue as an area where MMY and I did not agree, at least as far as the Relative goes. (snip) That worked out really well. Look at what has happened the schools; Meditation could have saved many kids in school from the chaos the schools have become. But, that's the way it goes...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Obama Will Win
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote: snip Is it true that PUMA is a Republican founded and funded group? Definitely not. I think what you're referring to is a rumor that got started about the woman who founded the PUMA-PAC, which turned out not to be true; she's a long-time Democrat. I can give you the details if you're interested. There may be Republicans hiding out among the PUMAs, and it's not impossible some are contributing in the hope of furthering McCain's candidacy, but the people who consider themselves PUMAs do so because they're Hillary supporters. Not that many of those among Republicans. And again, it's important to recognize that many who've been supporting Hillary (moi included) are doing so not because they think she's the cat's meow but because they really, really don't like Obama. (snip) And many Obama supporters(moi included) like Obama, and think he will be a great leader. And likewise, I believe Hillary felt 'entitled' to the nomination because she is married to Bill. Bill is the one that ruined her chances... She stayed with him during his many lies and adulterous adventures, and it came back to bite her on her fat ass. She makes a better supporter of 'Strong dominant men', Instead of pretending to be a strong dominant man herself( remember the shots of Whiskey in the bar- pathetic) It's not that I dislike Hillary; It's just that she is a big fake. So, you go and vote for McCain. Many will. We'll see who wins. Could be this country is too far gone for anyone to pull it back to any kind of sanity at this point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amaranda Bhairavan (Nandu) Returns to Fairfield in August
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Rice readings are done on a one-on-one basis. During each reading, Bhairavan uses a method of divination called Oti Nottam, developed by the odiyyas to see each person's astral body, karmic sheath (with its marma-chakra systems), mystic shield and all layers of mental realms. During this process Nandu invokes and becomes a vessel to his cluster of high energy beings that guide the session. As in Jyotish astrology, Nandu will share what he sees from the rice about a person's past, present and future tendencies. Blemishes, prana flow impairments and other harmful abnormalities are then detected and rituals will be done and remedies offered to repair them. Questions can also be asked. I think my only question is whether he needs to use brown rice to do a reading for people of color. Then again for really exciting results, you can use wild rice...
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: And as far as that poster claiming the TMO kicked a guy out of the Fairfield flying hall because he was flying. Not even worth a response 30 years is a long time for someone without perspective. As for the rumour about that flying fellow who was kicked out of the Dome ? It's an obvious lie but that should most definately not stop Rick Archer from perpetuating it since this is your main field of interest. I posted that I had spoken to a woman, I can't remember her name right now, hopefully I will remember... She was always regarded as having advanced experiences and I had no reason not to believe her. She told me that she had started to experience a more advanced form of levitition and was asked to leave the dome, because it was too destracting to other's in the dome. I will do research on this and report back when I can remember more. This conversation took place back around 1992...
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
That worked out really well. Look at what has happened the schools; Meditation could have saved many kids in school from the chaos the schools have become. But, that's the way it goes... Thanks for posting this. If only 10% of all of Maharishis strong suggestions for implementing Vedic Science in America had been implemented in that country, it would face a very different karma than currently. You don't know that. Again you are confounding your wish with reality. You believe that such a thing would be so based on your huge investment in the dogma of the TMO. Nothing could ever prove the TMO wrong to you. Always an ad hoc explanation, always a rationalization to excuse the failure of the TMO to make good on its predictions or plans. I mean face it, Nabs, you believe in the fantasy of a perfect master who speaks through a very curious and idiosyncratic Englishman (and I'm being kind here). Why can't the alleged master speak for himself. Probably the first time in history a master speaks through someone else. Well, there were some schools that were practicing TM at the time; Which is why the whole thing was brought to court, by some fundie group on Cali... It seemed to be helping a lot and everyone liked it- it calmed everything down, and gave the students something to pull things together. No one was required to learn; it was on a voluteer basis. It was tried in wealthy areas, middle areas, and depressed areas. Worked in every situation. Anyone who doesn't think TM would help in the schools is fool. All it takes is to look at the present situation, and the collapse of the educational system, that what they are doing now, surely isn't working too well. We live in a foolish society in so many ways...
