Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> From: chuck > > Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place? Because you put them in the public right of way. If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and build on private land. > I paid to have them put in for my use. So you

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> You come along and instantly want access and want a third party (lowest > bidder no less) to decide whether or not you are going to overload my pole? Strawman argument. One touch make ready and third party installs do not preclude proper engineering. Also I never said anything about

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
In their defense, they may also do a full parametric test and calibration of the radio. May also use new gaskets when reassembling. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs? I didn't like the repair cycle time but

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
I didn't like the repair cycle time but I thought the money was reasonable. Mine was fried by lightning and they repaired it. I think they three in a new board. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 10:04 PM Paul McCall wrote: > We can take a look at it for sure. Most P problems are fixable,

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Paul McCall
We can take a look at it for sure. Most P problems are fixable, if that is what really is wrong with it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs? You just made Chuck M’s

Re: [AFMUG] odd 320 issue, resolved by rain

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
It was in but floating. With what I suspect the port will blow soon, if I bonded it, that 12g wire would be carrying too much On Sep 16, 2016 6:35 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Was the surge suppressor already there when the problem started? Or did > you add the surge

[AFMUG] ePMP 3.0+ - temp config/safe mode?

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Did they add this feature by chance? I have a radio linked up and it's only offering 10 half/full. I'm afraid to set it to 100 full from auto and not have access to it again. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Sean Heskett
Oh good point, I thought Sierra was this week cuz all my macs started hounding me to upgrade lol On Friday, September 16, 2016, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > macOS sierra is next tuesday (20th).. Nice of Apple to give us two big > download Tuesdays in row though :) > > > On Sep

Re: [AFMUG] odd 320 issue, resolved by rain

2016-09-16 Thread Adam Moffett
Was the surge suppressor already there when the problem started? Or did you add the surge suppressor in response to the problem? IMO, the SS with it's own ground could be a liability as there's the possibility of a difference in ground potential between that rod and the equipment at the other

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6 Multicast STOHP!

2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Broadcast isn’t the same as Multicast. IPv6 uses multicast exclusively for identifying things that IPv4 uses Broadcasts for. If you provide what Multicast addresses are the most talkative we can identify what it is. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

[AFMUG] IPv6 Multicast STOHP!

2016-09-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I'm not getting what all this chatter is on IPv6 on a segment of network. I know I only have about 10-20 IPv6 client routers actually grabbing an address on any given segment of my network. But this 5-10Mbps of broadcast traffic seems very excessive. Any way to stop this? My IPv6 stuff is all

Re: [AFMUG] Free Canopy Gear - pay shipping + handling

2016-09-16 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Come get your Gino's fire sale on!! Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:45 AM -0500, "Gino Villarini" > wrote: Need to clean up our warehouse. Got 100+ 5200 SMs, 10+ APs, 10+ LMG Sectors and

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
macOS sierra is next tuesday (20th).. Nice of Apple to give us two big download Tuesdays in row though :) > On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > iOS 10 and Mac OSX Sierra came out on tuesday the 13th > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Sam Kirsch

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Don't worry Chuck. I'll only tickle your poles when I bore right by them. Craig Schmaderer Cell 402-380-1245 Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:14 PM -0500, "ch...@wbmfg.com" > wrote: I get bored sometimes... From: CBB - Jay

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Sean Heskett
iOS 10 and Mac OSX Sierra came out on tuesday the 13th On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Sam Kirsch wrote: > Looks like this PS4 update was released on Sept 13th -- as was a 500MB > update for Windows 10 and some sort of El Capitan OS X Update. We didn't > start seeing

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Sam Kirsch
Looks like this PS4 update was released on Sept 13th -- as was a 500MB update for Windows 10 and some sort of El Capitan OS X Update. We didn't start seeing real issues with the Windows 10 Update until the last 48 hours, since then its been a shit show of complaints :( -- Samuel Kirsch,

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread chuck
I get bored sometimes... From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city I am so loving these conversations... so happy to be stirring the pot Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] DC tower cable bundle

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Depending on your distance and the watt load of each radio, 18AWG is frequently sufficient, assuming you have DC power supplies putting out 52-53.5VDC on the ground end, the voltage at the top end will be well within the range of all equipment... One of the lowest cost options is: Belden

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I am so loving these conversations... so happy to be stirring the pot Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG] The latest gig city Date: Fri, Sep 16, 2016 3:26 PM Why should you even get access to my ducts or my

[AFMUG] DC tower cable bundle

2016-09-16 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Looking for advice on what my options are for running 16 DC conductors around 16 awg to power LTE and/or medusa radios on a tower. Hybrid fiber option would be ok too. I know I have seen Verizon on some of our towers use the hybrid cables. Thanks, Craig. Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy. It's only uncapped at this point, but it exists. C036045C014A. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread Timothy Steele
I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes seems to work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount on a tower I hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband wrote: > +1 > >

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread chuck
Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place? I paid to have them put in for my use. I realize it is somewhat the "law of the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the spoils of the mine. This is just a different kind of mine. You still

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread chuck
So, I own these poles. FERC says I can only load them so much. And there are already a bunch of other people renting space on them. You come along and instantly want access and want a third party (lowest bidder no less) to decide whether or not you are going to overload my pole? And then

[AFMUG] odd 320 issue, resolved by rain

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we have a customer we have battled to keep fuctioning. Theyre on 320 with an air router, DHCP the router occasionally quits working, we replaced routers twice, and the whole run of cable, ss, radio, power supply. we see the MAC on the site router bridge, we see the dhcp discover and offer in the

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread chuck
You just made Chuck M’s day. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:10 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs? in our experience UBNT AF line is above UBNT... similar to Cambium On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> From: "Carl Peterson" > > Once the town starts making a profit, is it reasonable for them to take that > money and plow it into other things or > should they start cutting prices so as to cover expenses and not make a > profit?  It's very, very hard to give up a cash cow, government or

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
How about we enact one touch make ready and allow third parties to bid on make ready work? No more unreasonable delays and market based costs for make ready work. Jared > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re:

[AFMUG] ApexPlus went stupid

2016-09-16 Thread George Skorup
Had a storm this morning and now have an 11GHz ApexPlus that looks like this. That's the 6A side. -79 RSSI and -36 MSE. Unpossible. The 6B end shows no lock, -90 RSSI and +3-5 MSE. That seems normal to me. So my assumption is that the 6A end is farked. And I have had trouble with this

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> If the obstacles need to be taken out of the way, they > should be removed for everyone. On this we very much agree. > I know, this sounds like complaining that Uber > unfairly competes with taxis, or Airbnb unfairly competes with hotels. It's not. Uber and AirBNB both chose to ignore

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> From: "Chuck McCown" > > The FCC regulates pole contacts. It sure would be nice if they would enforce timely access too. > How are existing competitors denying anyone access to anything? By dragging out make ready work for months on end. Duct owners can also under certain

[AFMUG] NetEnforcer AC 1400 for sale

2016-09-16 Thread Yent, Timothy M
I still have the following items for sale. 1 Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440 Make offer 1 Allot NetEnforcer Bypass Make offer Tim

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
in our experience UBNT AF line is above UBNT... similar to Cambium On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I have alpha, beta, and release radios from them that haven't been touched > since they were installed. Some 5 years old. > > On Sep 16, 2016 1:23 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Indeed... and even if you buy games on disc, there's usually a several gig update that needs to be downloaded before you can play. Plus release day is the same day for Xbox and Playstation a lot of the time... On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Sure they do. It's called "release day". Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Probably, but not everyone downloads a new game all at the same time... I >

Re: [AFMUG] Historical 18 GHz system

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The rest of the carcass of the long out of service system is Motorola... On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: > Nice, do you know who the manufacturer/model was? > > Jpeg attached. >

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Mathew Howard
I suspect the majority of them are already actually done... mine updated a few days ago. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to > automatically download a large whole operating system

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
But... will it have IPv6? > On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to > automatically download a large whole operating system update... > >

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably smaller than a game, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to >

[AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to automatically download a large whole operating system update... https://www.google.com/search?hl=en=us=nws=0=playstation+4+update

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
I have alpha, beta, and release radios from them that haven't been touched since they were installed. Some 5 years old. On Sep 16, 2016 1:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > I have a hard time believing youll get the SAF set and forget from any > UBNT product > >

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
Or just use a device that won’t let one device eat up the entire pipe? Thanks, Dennis Burgess – Network Engineer/Consutant MikroTik Certified Trianer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE Cambium ePMP Certified,

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Baird
Maybe not.. but AF-24's are pretty much set-and-forget if they are installed properly. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:23 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a hard time believing youll get the SAF set and forget from any > UBNT product > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have a hard time believing youll get the SAF set and forget from any UBNT product On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > with mimosa radios at $1400 and UBNT comming out with a $700 radio.. its > har to pay those $900! > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:10

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
with mimosa radios at $1400 and UBNT comming out with a $700 radio.. its har to pay those $900! On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > Paul might be willing to take a look at it. > > *From:* Daniel White > *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 12:07 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread chuck
Paul might be willing to take a look at it. From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs? I’ll let SAF speak for itself, but what they do for that money is worth it IMHO. You never know where the rabbit hole goes

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-16 Thread Daniel White
I’ll let SAF speak for itself, but what they do for that money is worth it IMHO. You never know where the rabbit hole goes with ESD damage. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Tim Reichhart
too bad that netbox cant be switched to mysql because iwisp.gr is planning on putting phpipam in there billing/monitoring software. -Original Message- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 01:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey

[AFMUG] Upgrading Multiple Cambium radios with CNUT

2016-09-16 Thread Sam Lambie
Is there a way to upgrade more than one default radios on the bench through CNUT? I thought about putting up an AP and upgrading them that way via ICC, but that is even more of a cabling mess. Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
With DPI turned on (and facing LAN) all of the edgerouter models can. On Sep 16, 2016 11:26 AM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > They want to know specifically what device/IP address/MAC address on their > LAN is moving a lot of traffic (like a kid's gaming PC with Steam, or an >

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
I liked netbox, but it was still pre-release when I played with it. They were the talk of /r/networking for awhile. On Sep 16, 2016 10:51 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox > > On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Uh since when? They just did a release in June. On Sep 16, 2016 10:49 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and > has everything I want except that its got a learning

Re: [AFMUG] Historical 18 GHz system

2016-09-16 Thread Colin Stanners
Nice, do you know who the manufacturer/model was? Jpeg attached.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread SmarterBroadband
+1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d We love it! We have standardized on it -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional -gain the same or 1-2db better

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM?] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread SmarterBroadband
We really like the 450d over reflectors or connectorized with panel. All in one. Easy to aim. Love them. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [SPAM?] [AFMUG] Cambium 450d I

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
phpipam is developed still. I see plenty of commits this month: https://github.com/phpipam/phpipam It’s just slowed down a bit for actual releases. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
We love it! We have standardized on it -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional -gain the same or 1-2db better -easier to assemble / align -less windload On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect

[AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they don't like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key. Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either way. What

[AFMUG] Cheap Canopy 430 Gear!!!!

2016-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
10+ 5.7 and 5.4 APs = $200 ea 10+ 5.7 and 5.4 Sectors = $25 40+ 5.7 and 5.4 SMs = $20 ea plus shipping take them from me!!

[AFMUG] Free Canopy Gear - pay shipping + handling

2016-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
Need to clean up our warehouse. Got 100+ 5200 SMs, 10+ APs, 10+ LMG Sectors and omnis Pay for shipping and a small handling fee for us to cover packaging and they all yours!

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Carl Peterson
They claim they are on target to hit break even in 5 years (a year from now). Guessing that means that revenue covers the cost of paying back the bond + OPEX which seems about right assuming they continue to add subs at a reasonable clip. Despite all the hype, this seems like a pretty good deal

Re: [AFMUG] Leads wanted for a source for 1U rackmount enclosures.

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
might try these partner companies, I dont know how small the quantities are they manufacture per run Very good family run companies http://www.technical-metals.com/ http://www.hoffmantool.com/ On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Protocase made the

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
They want to know specifically what device/IP address/MAC address on their LAN is moving a lot of traffic (like a kid's gaming PC with Steam, or an XboxOne, or whatever)? I would suggest some sort of home router that can do per device cumulative accounting like this. The $50 ubnt edgerouter has

Re: [AFMUG] Leads wanted for a source for 1U rackmount enclosures.

2016-09-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Protocase made the enclsoures for the first several generations of Backblaze storage pods, they have some standard 1U designs that are basically folded steel (or aluminum) pizza boxes you can customize. http://www.protocase.com/ On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Forrest Christian (List

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The WISPmans creed: This is my Billing System. There are many like it, but this one is all mine. My Billing System is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Billing System is useless. Without my Billing system, I am useless. I must bill my

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread SmarterBroadband
What Procera / Powercode break? Are they not working together anymore? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage lol, for my requested purpose other

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Fanboy comments don’t count ... ;-) (Funny, how adopting a platform as critical as billing triggers the “confirmation bias” circuit in your brain and you become an evangelist rather than exhibiting buyers remorse. Happens with politics and religion all the time). From: Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
I will give you the best answer. DO NOT RELY ON ANYONE. I.e. everyone has things that they need, then things they want. Every network is a bit different, and overall, when you look at all of these guys, you need to understand what you require and what you would like to have. Go through all

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'd jump ship off Powercode in a heart beat if there was a reason to and something to go to, but I just don't see that happening in reality. Even if an alternative was completely free, one mistake could cost me more money than what Powercode costs for a year

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Simon is a rockstar. he did alot to move powercode forward and got its momentum up with a good trajectory, and seemed to have built his exit into it without setting it on fire before he left On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy wrote: > Simon is awesome, and Sonar

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Westlake
Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I think so, but I don’t personally provision or do support so my knowledge is from the sales pitch info. We use it and customers love it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage I guess my question is

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Jeremy
Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform. However, I agree with Josh. Powercode has definitely improved since he left. Issues are quicker to get resolved, and tickets are responded to more promptly. I doubt any of this was the fault of Simon being the lead

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess my question is whether you can go to My Calix or whatever the user portal is called and see data usage by device, by application, or both. That would take care of Steve’s situation, I think. Customer wants to know what is using all those gigabytes. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to get a full grasp on, but its got all the documentory and reporting features I want, would love it if

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
My opinion, yes. Very much so. I got my complaints fixed sooner. You can also see their public git commits - https://powercode.com/work.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Actually with the water company, yes. They must be under some mandate of conservation or something because if the usage pattern gets odd they will send a guy with a stethoscope out to locate. at least American Water does around here, it could be a part of their municipal franchise contract though

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Powercode without Simon is like a castrated bull. Looks like a bull but can it get the job done as things change into the future? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We use Powercode, they ebb

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Check out phpipam On Sep 16, 2016 10:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the > skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have > gladiator fights for the lead role because

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Curious, name an obstacle that needs to be removed. Not saying there are none. There are plenty. Just curious which one could be removed. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city He didn't

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead comes in the last one disappears off the face of the earth. I imagine being in the office

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
He didn't say it was easy or cheap. More like it can be done, if you fill out the paperwork, pay your fees, and wait like everybody else. I have to agree. If the obstacles need to be taken out of the way, they should be removed for everyone. Not just Google because they're special. (insert

[AFMUG] Radio Mobile

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Roger has a beta out that replaces the now inoperative terraserver with National Map. Works like a champ. Not sure when he will make it GA but I greatly appreciate his attention to my query. Time to make another donation to RM.

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I honestly don’t know the cost of the cloud control app. I think you have to pay Calix something so parents can control the router. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage I wonder if people call the water

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
They still get it in many places. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city You can do whatever you want nearly wherever you want. Google was just expecting the red carpet treatment. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
The FCC regulates pole contacts. Duct are owned by the duct owners. BIAS providers have the same access to public utility easements as anyone else. How are existing competitors denying anyone access to anything? If a power pole is rotten, by law/fed regulation, it must be replaced. Why

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder if people call the water company asking what is using so much water? Or the electric company? Probably they refer you to a list of most common reasons like taking long showers, toilet always running, leaking garden hose. Also, anybody currently using the Calix Gigacenters, is this

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I would guess time is the main factor. I am also guessing they will drop it in a few years and go back to fiber. From: Harold Bledsoe Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city RE Google, I don't think it is just a cost thing. I

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
You know the developer of Sonar, cannot go wrong with him. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Currently there's an in-house system here that dates back to dialup days, so I've been keeping an eye on

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> From: "Mike Hammett" > > You can do whatever you want nearly wherever you want. Never ever had a problem with gaining access to poles or ducts from your friendly neighborhood incumbent, never experienced any delays nor had to pay an arm and a leg for the pleasure? Jared

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Its not something I want to drop a huge amount of time or effort into, I was hoping there was just a quick thing. We have fortigates we can drop in at the premise to log everything, but its no big deal. theyre on a 300 gb plan, usually use less than 100, but theyre sitting at 260 today On Fri,

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Vlad Sedov
We've been running Freeside for the last 10 years. It takes a bit of perl and linux knowledge to get it running (or just download the VM), but hey, what do you want for nothing? Feature-wise, freeside is on par with the big boys these days.. Can't think of anything it doesn't have that an ISP

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Robbie Wright
We looked at visp (who seemed awesome), ended up using whmcs with radius (since we do a decent amount of web hosting) and it's been great. Keeping an eye on Sonar though, it looks very promising. On Sep 16, 2016 7:35 AM, "Tim Reichhart" wrote: You can also check

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Tim Reichhart
You can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using. -Original Message- From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years.  It hasn't changed much

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years. It hasn’t changed much in all that time. Client is still windows-only based. Still runs on SQL server. There’s an API exposed now, but it’s still clunky. I don’t want to run a VM just for Platypus! Give me a web client! We’ve wanted to

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
So true. And where’s our welcome from the Lollipop Guild? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KSiyaqnZYs I think most of us remember 10 years ago when customers were enthralled to get high speed Internet. Now people are much less impressed and much more entitled regarding Internet. Instead of

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Jeremy
I have been using Powercode since it was PowerNOC (even before it was JabNOC). It has come a LONG ways since then! I am mostly happy and would definitely recommend it. It is hard for me to imagine moving to anything else, having done multiple migrations. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Simon

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread Mike Hammett
You can do whatever you want nearly wherever you want. Google was just expecting the red carpet treatment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-16 Thread fiberrun
> From: "Harold Bledsoe" >  > Then there's the regulatory challenges they face in every market... Is this a polite way of saying that existing regulations do nothing to prevent competitors from doing their best to deny Google access to poles and ducts, or are there actually any regulations

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Westlake
There's a couple of others that are mostly billing focused (BillMax, Freeside) that are probably similar in functionality to Platypus (although, I will confess, I am not intimately familiar with them, so they could have some differences.) I *think* Swiftfox has stopped bringing on new

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