Hi Jordan,
Many thanks for the feedback :) :)
I'm really happy that peeps are finding it useful - It was very much an
early dotnet project for me and done over a few days so is very very rough
in places.
I really need to tidy it up and also move the functions under the function
accordion
Paul Alkema
http://paulalkema.com/
-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cfdot.net (was: CF vs. ASP.Net)
Im not trying to nitpick, I only noticed them (except for Coldfusion...
that
usually
: cfdot.net (was: CF vs. ASP.Net)
From: bleached...@gmail.com
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Hi Jordan,
Many thanks for the feedback :) :)
I'm really happy that peeps are finding it useful - It was very much an
early dotnet project for me and done over a few days so is very very rough
in places
All language religion aside - it's not a fair comparison, it's biased towards
CF. You should be more honest in your comparisons if you expect anyone to take
it seriously.
Example:
CFEXECUTE:
CF:
cfexecute name=C:\WinNT\System32\netstat.exe
/cfexecute
ASP.NET
01.using System;
02.using
Matthew you appear to have taken offence to my comparisons, I did not intend
to belittle .net in anyway. I will openly admit when I built the site and
added the comparisons over a year ago, I was new to .net. I am not biased
either over the past year and a half I have become a highly certified
Hi Guys,
Unfortunatly the company I work for decided to move away from CF :( and
proceeded to get shot of all the cf devs we had.
I was one of two survivors who they see as legacy application developers grr
even thou I decided to become an MCPD, they still see us a just CF devs.
Anyhoo I did
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunatly the company I work for decided to move away from CF :( and
proceeded to get shot of all the cf devs we had.
Sorry to hear that - glad you survived tho'...
Anyhoo I did build the following site: www.cfdot.net
This is pretty sweet Jose.
Thanks for taking the time to create this site! An excellent resource
indeed.
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Railo Community Distributions
On 06/22/2010 06:47 AM, Jose Diaz wrote:
Hi
, 2010 5:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: cfdot.net (was: CF vs. ASP.Net)
This is pretty sweet Jose.
Thanks for taking the time to create this site! An excellent resource
indeed.
Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Railo
for the link.
Outlook barked at me when I hit send.
Cheers
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:10 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: cfdot.net (was: CF vs. ASP.Net
Im not trying to nitpick, I only noticed them (except for Coldfusion... that
usually stands out to me) because I sent the link to my colleagues along
with the text from the home page as a description for the link.
Two things that bug me -
1. It's C# which is one code-behind language for
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET.
I have looked around and found some useful information on CF vs. ASP.net
(pro CF of course), but if anyone knows of any really good current links,
please share :-)
Thanks,
Robert
Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET.
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Casey Dougall
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty
positive whitepaper.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty
positive whitepaper.
Particularly
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Mon Jun 11 06:09:25 2007
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Yes but his consideration of going BD is that he already has written CFML
code and that he has been told .Net is better in under Loads.
Please try to keep up with conversation.
On 6/11/07
Medical
Association). This was on a NT4 server (donât remember how much memory).
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Well originally they ran CF5
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
He could port to BD with little or no changes to code.
This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant,
Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business,
Registered
1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET compared to
Bluedragon.Net?
No. CF8 is still written in Java, and its .NET integration is done using a
Java-to-.NET bridge licensed from a third party. BlueDragon.NET on the other
hand is a 100% pure .NET implementation. Compared to
1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET
compared to Bluedragon.Net?
No. It will let you invoke .NET assemblies, but CF 8 is not a .NET
interpreter or compiler as BD.NET is.
... my concern for using CFMX was sparked
by another thread on this forum where Tim Uzzanti who is an
On 6/9/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2/ My main reason for consider Bluedragon.NET over CFMX is not due to Flash
Remoting but rather to my main concern of .NET touted as being far superior
in handling significant loads and simultaneous requests than CFMX...
Last week I attended the
Below is the introduction to an article written by Jeff Prosise from Wintellect:
Enjoy,
Mike Chabot
Scalable Apps with Asynchronous Programming in ASP.NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/03/WickedCode/
[quote]
Most Web sites built with ASP.NET aren't very scalable. They suffer a
, 2007 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET
compared to Bluedragon.Net?
No. It will let you invoke .NET assemblies, but CF 8 is not a .NET
interpreter or compiler as BD.NET is.
... my
Actually that runs on .NET via BD, so it's not the best example in
this argument...
On 6/11/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... a bunch of crap. There are plenty of high-volume sites using CF.
No doubt. Two words as one... MySpace. If that isn't the most defining
example of a high
: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Actually that runs on .NET via BD, so it's not the best example in
this argument...
On 6/11/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
application, I don't know what is.
!k
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET
compared
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Actually that runs on .NET via BD, so it's not the best example in
this argument...
On 6/11/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... a bunch of crap. There are plenty of high-volume sites using CF.
No doubt. Two words
Yes but his consideration of going BD is that he already has written CFML
code and that he has been told .Net is better in under Loads.
Please try to keep up with conversation.
On 6/11/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well you have a point, but given that he's considering going BD as
Thanks for all the responses.
What I am thinking after some research, is to use Bluedragon.Net as the app
server as it has got very good write-ups and has the ability to integrate
seamlessly into the .NET framework + will enable me to preserve all the CFML
work that I have done and I will also
Thanks for all the responses.
What I am thinking after some research, is to use Bluedragon.Net as the app
server as it has got very good write-ups and has the ability to integrate
seamlessly into the .NET framework + will enable me to preserve all the CFML
work that I have done and I will also
But only on Windows Servers, and Coldfusion V8 will also have .Net support.
On 6/9/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.
What I am thinking after some research, is to use Bluedragon.Net as the
app server as it has got very good write-ups and has the ability to
-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Jun 09 08:44:18 2007
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
But only on Windows Servers, and Coldfusion V8 will also have .Net support.
On 6/9/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.
What I am
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Jun 09 08:44:18 2007
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
But only on Windows Servers, and Coldfusion V8 will also have .Net
support.
On 6/9/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all
this
communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions.
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sat Jun 09 10:25:44 2007
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
True,
The question I will ask
personally don't care which application
server I use, I just wan't to know that my app is using the most robust tools
and that it won't slow down or crash under very heavy load. I do not want to
start a CF vs ASP.NET war, but my concern for using CFMX was sparked by another
thread on this forum
and able to
handle the loads.
Ignoring costs for the time being, I personally don't care which
application server I use, I just wan't to know that my app is using the most
robust tools and that it won't slow down or crash under very heavy load. I
do not want to start a CF vs ASP.NET war, but my
On 6/10/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cold Fusion MX out of the box has a setting to support no more than
10 simultaneous requests at one time.
Macromedia suggestions that you never exceed 40 and this isn't optimal for a
large scale sites. There are other settings and issues from a server
Thanks...your responses are appreciated as I inexperienced when it comes to
advanced technical concepts and deployment and want to ensure I make the roght
choice before throwing down several thousands of dollars on licenses etc.
Can you suggest any good load testing software for CF besides from
OpenSTA is free, altough it hasn't been updated in a while.
On 6/10/07, m g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks...your responses are appreciated as I inexperienced when it comes to
advanced technical concepts and deployment and want to ensure I make the
roght choice before throwing down several
those expressed by Reed Exhibitions.
Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com
-Original Message-
From: m g
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thu Jun 07 06:16:49 2007
Subject: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Hi,
BACKGROUND:
I have developed a Flash Remoting application using
BACKGROUND:
I have developed a Flash Remoting application using
Coldfusion and SQL 2000 and am almost ready to go live.
The remoting application uses many queries/responses to/from
the SQL 2000 database via Coldfusion.
The Flash Remoting application is a game which I hope will
become
-
From: m g [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
Hi,
BACKGROUND:
I have developed a Flash Remoting application using Coldfusion and SQL
2000 and am almost ready to go live.
The remoting
Hi,
BACKGROUND:
I have developed a Flash Remoting application using Coldfusion and SQL 2000
and am almost ready to go live.
The remoting application uses many queries/responses to/from the SQL 2000
database via Coldfusion.
The Flash Remoting application is a game which I hope will become
-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Michael,
Kill this thread!!
For what it's worth I thoroughly enjoy threads like this.
It's
outsourced spam
filter / email servers, then message I sent yesterday didn't get delivered
until this morning (thank you spam tank and single fin).
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET
Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
MD
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Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
What fun is that! :-)
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Message:
Michael,
Kill this thread!!
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. Please, lets
move this to someplace else.
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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 14:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Maybe I'm the only one
Will...just remember...this is a technical forumso non-tech threads
have a limited lifespan here
As Mike D saidit can go to CF-Macromedia or CF-OT or heck...even the
insane CF-Community
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group
will,
if u spent as much time going to your local cfug as u do whining u'd have a
damn cfm job
have u ever gone to a cfug? do u know what a cfug is?
funny, last night at ours, the shops that were going .net cfm have now scaled
back to just cfm, hu
and plenty of jobs were passed
Where the heck do you live?
I wish I had the balls to up and move from my homeland. I consider myself
a PGP (pretty good programmer), and I am stuck here at an embarassing salary.
My job, co-workers and job environment is awesome, I get to take my dog to
work, I make my own hours, and have
I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
what Ben had mentioned about CF in Gov.
Our branch was formed within the State Dept to consolidate all IT
under one roof. We inheritied nasty asp applications that rely heavily
in AD and msSQL. (ever try to change a domain on
: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 98
Oh yeah, and for the people in house who converted from classic and
.NET to CF. Lol, they wouldnt go back, even for a bump in salary.
-Adam
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:40:46 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
what Ben
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 98 (as of
now).
Silencing unhappy CF'ers who are having to diversify due to the lack of CF
jobs, and are willing to subject themselves to ridicule by their peers,
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
Yes, well I can certainly see your point with that analogy. Presumably,
after the putsch, those who disagree with Team Macromedia will be rounded up
for extermination, whether they use .NET or simply want CF to be better. I'm
sure this
I wonder how many of those jobs have listings like this?
Experienced web developer / software application programmer utilizing
various technologies and skills, including: ColdFusion , HTML, Active
Server Pages, IIS, ASP.NET, JavaScript, XML, MS SQL Server, XSLT,
VBScript, SQL Programming, C#,
There are parts of this thread which are not really useful and it's gotten
past the useful point. I've asked before for it to be moved over to the
CF-OT or Macromedia-Talk lists. I'd rather not do it myself if I don't have
to as it's better for the community to police itself.
On the other hand,
group hug ... coffee for everyone .. now GET BACK TO YOUR CODE ;)
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 12/14/2004 6:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Cant we all learn to love each other for our
Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Regarding the relative costs of the expensive ColdFusion and the
free other technologies, I have a statement from a colleague
I think I am going to switch to COBOL or PASCAL.. not sure this CF
shaahoey will ever take off.
ASP.NET? isnt that a website about snakes that are hidden in pretty baskets?
Ho hum.
Flame wars are so invigorating dont you think?
CFMX smells of eldeberries.
--
Mark Drew
coldfusion and
Cmon, step of that pre defined CF idea. It makes a discussion very
difficult, when people are rusty in their current web application
platform, and do not try to be open minded about other possible ways.
The flamewar part is long gone (if there was a flamewar, it was merely a
sharp discussion).
I guess they did something terribly wrong there, PHP is a very simple
language, you could even compare the learning curve to CF. I build my
apps as fast with CF as PHP or ASP (C# other story), so I must guess
there have been other issues except the application server used.
Micha Schopman
(at $1200) is insignificant in the
scheme of any project where they'll be buying and managing their own
servers.
Jim Davis
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From: Murat Demirci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
For most small to medium projects I'm not sure why you would
ever want to
buy CF anyway - hosting seems the way to. Since the
development servers are
free you can create
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:18 -0500, Jim Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how this will be implemented in BlackStone -
Isaac's post was
the first I'd heard of it. But it is doable in Java (of
course) and it
wouldn't be all that hard to create a CFC to kick
something like this
TIm Uzzanti : Someone mentioned ediet.com which has a traffic ranking
of around 280,000 and in comparison CrystalTech is around 23,000.
Microsoft.com which is in the top 10 is using ASP.NET and Dell.COM
which is in the top 100 is also using ASP.NET..
Forta has already blogged this, but i think
One more thing. Please don't attack me! I'm just the messenger!
Ignorance is bliss, my friend. While you're at it, why not throw a message
around claiming that the Democrats are better than Republicans, or espouse
the ideological supremacy of the Lutheran church over the Catholics.
If they're going to standardize it in BlackStone, more
power to them, but
HOW they're going to do it I'm not sure. Will they only
support orphaned
threads (threads which are created and launched but can't
communicate back
to the parent thread) or will they support a more complete
model.
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's 10
production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's zero
cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
Also, no matter what way you cut it, CF Enterprise is quite expensive.
Also, only
Kwang Suh wrote:
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
defensiveness, even from MM.
If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
to expect anything else.
Would you
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
defensiveness, even from MM.
When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand it better, the
Java community did what every CF person should be doing: they learned .NET.
And then they deconstructed it. And then
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's
10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's
zero cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a site that was so
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to develop.
And everything else is hard/takes longer/is
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a site that
Kwang Suh wrote:
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their
incredible defensiveness, even from MM.
If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
to expect anything else.
I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
not fully understand what a null is and is not.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com/
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like a concept of null type
Well, Excuse me!
Kwang Suh wrote:
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
Please don't belittle my comments with such an offhand packaged response.
I am try to
Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
can't do enough?
I hate to take the other side of this argument, but I think your example is
flawed. There's no practical reason to use C# over
I like to give people some credit. If I understand what a null is, I'm sure
anyone else can.
I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
not fully understand what a null is and is not.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com/
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0400,
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:14:40 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to scale
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:12:15 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, Macromedia's for one. Not sure if has ten, but there's a quite a few
there. Anandtech was running quite a few as well. There's William Sonoma.
How about Toys'R'Us before they switched over? Pottery Barn.
I think
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
can't do enough?
By design, a .NET app is meant to use any IL conformate language. As well,
Is it safe then to assume that you don't use a QA server for .NET
development, or are you somehow doing that without paying for a Windows
license?
No, it is not. My MSDN subscription allows me to run multiple Windows server
for non-production purposes.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
develop. And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive. So
why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in CF?
Actually, I would call it
From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feel free to challenge them.
And feel free to move this conversation elsewhere...
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Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take this
topic somewhere else. Macromedia Forums is usually the best place to
have the I hate ColdFusion debates.
I, personally, stopped using the forums mainly because of these
religious wars. We all know CF rocks, but it's not the
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to scale
up better with a non-Windows solution (which generally limits you to
Kwang Suh wrote:
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a
Who said anything about fixing? I'd like more functionality:
I'd like to have cftransaction work across multiple
databases. And allowed nested cftransactions.
I'd like some other number type beside floating point.
I'd like a concept of null type.
I'd like to have CFCs have interfaces,
I'd say most people run CF on Windows, so they're paying
for the Windows licenses on top of CF license.
Perhaps, but if they are, do you really think they're so cost-conscious
about the price of CF server licensing if they're willing to pay for Windows
licensing without batting an eye? I like
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
If you're myopic enough to look at that as a valid comparison then you really
Kwang Suh wrote:
I said I'd like to see the total cost break-down for sites like that,
not a list of possible candidates.
You doubted that there were companies that used numbers of web servers. I have
provided you some. Feel free to ask them. Sean has already answered for you.
I don't have
There are no professional CF hosting in Turkey :( So we always need to buy
CF to host our projects which should be hosted at different geographical
I'm not sure I understand this. If there's no CF hosting in Turkey, why not
create some? At the very least it would seem that you could host in
Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
You're preaching to the converted, you're wasting your time.
Now please, for the love of God, drop it and move on.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004
And at this point I'll have to ask that the conversation be moved to CF-OT
or CF-Community. Thank you.
Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
You're preaching to the converted,
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