Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 9:16:51 PM UTC-6, Gunn Quznetsov wrote: > > Dear Dr. Alan Grayson , > > No SUSY, No AXION, No WIMP, No HIGGS, No BIG BANG... > > Please, read it: > https://vixra.org/pdf/2003.0448v1.pdf > > Regarda, > Dr. Gunn > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvHalv2f5oM > I've as

Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread 'Gunn Quznetsov' via Everything List
Dear Dr. Alan Grayson , No SUSY, No AXION, No WIMP, No HIGGS, No BIG BANG... Please, read it:https://vixra.org/pdf/2003.0448v1.pdf Regarda,Dr. Gunnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvHalv2f5oM On Sunday, April 26, 2020, 01:33:12 AM GMT+3, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, January 6, 2019

Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
The latest method's not very different from what you imagined as "measuring the shadow cast" except they shoot electrons, not photons, at the protons. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269303015387?via%3Dihub https://arxiv.org/pdf/nucl-th/0508037.pdf They're measuring a c

Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 5:36:01 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/25/2020 3:33 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 12:53:52 AM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you >> make a photon with a wavelength s

Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 4/25/2020 3:33 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 12:53:52 AM UTC-7, Brent wrote: To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck length it will have so much mass-energy

Re: Planck Length

2020-04-25 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 12:53:52 AM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you > make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck > length it will have so much mass-energy that it will fold spacetime > around it and be

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:17:57 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> As I have said, I am l

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> As I have said, I am language-oriented. What this means is that I say that >> science (from that p

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-09 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 5:53:01 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > As I have said, I am language-oriented. What this means is that I say that > science (from that perspective) is a collection of domain-specific > languages - gene

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Feb 2019, at 19:09, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:06:45 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 1 Feb 2019, a

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:06:45 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1,

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 Feb 2019, at 19:16, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 31 Jan 2019, a

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:56:45 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/2/2019 11:04 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > "Experiential atoms" are sort of " just words" - like "atoms" was just > > a word to the Atomists of ancient Greece. And then a lot of people > > ignored them. Hopefully

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/2/2019 11:04 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: "Experiential atoms" are sort of " just words" - like "atoms" was just a word to the Atomists of ancient Greece. And then a lot of people ignored them. Hopefully things will go better in this round of history. - pt Democritus didn't just define

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:48:00 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/1/2019 10:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a ne

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/1/2019 10:58 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: In any case, one of the "micropsychists"  has a new paper just out: "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or protocons

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:58:14 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a new paper just out: >> >> >> "According to the

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:54:15 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > In any case, one of the "micropsychists" has a new paper just out: > > > "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or protoconscious > entities come together in the right wa

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/1/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: In any case, one of the "micropsychists"  has a new paper just out: "According to the *fusion* view ... when micro- or protoconscious entities come together in the right way, they fuse or 'blend' together to form a single unified consciousness. ..."

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 31

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 Feb 2019, at 14:52, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 30 Jan 2019

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 7:19:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, Januar

Re: Planck Length

2019-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2019, at 15:40, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> As I try

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-31 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:28:14 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >>> As I try to solve the mind-body problem in the Mechanist frame, I cannot >>

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 Jan 2019, at 23:14, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 28 Jan 2

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-30 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:45:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 29 Jan 2019, at 15:03, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 25 Jan 2019

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-29 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 5:30:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Jan 2019, at 15:07, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Jan 2019,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-28 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 6:27:37 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 2

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Jan 2019, at 14:53, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 23 Jan 201

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 1:09:05 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 7:19:05 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UT

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 7:19:05 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-27 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:54:58 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UT

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:25:59 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot >> and I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* > > > It's odd, no invention in human hist

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-26 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:06:09 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 10:14:24 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot >> and I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* > > > It's odd, no invention in human hi

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:59 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > *I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot and > I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years.* It's odd, no invention in human history has saved more lives than vaccines and yet from the day the first one was invente

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:27:44 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, Januar

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 19:57, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > > My point is that in physics what might be called a halting conditio

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 15:19, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 22 Jan

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:48:38 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-25 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> My point is that in physics what

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> My point is that in physics what might be called a halting condition is >> an attractor point or limit cycle. Equilibrium i

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:14:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> One of the oddest of th

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 12:54, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Ja

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 23 Jan 2019, at 19:01, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> One of the oddest of things is when physicists use the language of (various) >> theories of physi

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-24 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell >>> wrote: >>>

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 5:52:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > One of the oddest of things is when physicists use the language of > (various) theories of physics to express what can or cannot be the case. > It's just a lang

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 01:49, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > >> wrote: >> >> On Sunday, January 20,

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 6:19:07 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:09:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell >> wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 21 Jan 2019, at 00:17, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 Jan 2019, at 0

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:16:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2019, at 11:36, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:36:23 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17 Jan 201

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 19 Jan 2019, at 01:42, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-19 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:36:23 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Jan 2019, at 15:44, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 1/17/2019 12:2

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: >> >> *> How does one calculate Planck length usin

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> *Later I'll post some que

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 21:02, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck >> length, but for now here's a phi

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > *Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck > length, but for now here's a philosophical question; Is there any > difference between t

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/17/2019 12:22 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *Later I'll post some questions I have about your derivation of the Planck length, but for now here's a philosophical question; Is there any difference between the claim that space is discrete, from the claim or conjecture that we cannot in

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:22, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM > wrote: > > > How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, h, > > and c, and having calculated it, how

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: >> >> *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants >>> G, h, and c, and h

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:25:16 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM > wrote: > > *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, >> h, and c, and having calculated it, how does one show that measuring a >> length that small with photons

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-09 Thread Lawrence Crowell
This is the basic argument. The Compton wavelength or equivalently the de Broglie wavelength with v = c is equal to the Schwarzschild radius. That is how to derive the Planck length. The argument that nothing smaller exists just means the Heisenberg uncertainty principle can't isolate something

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:03 AM wrote: *> How does one calculate Planck length using the fundamental constants G, > h, and c, and having calculated it, how does one show that measuring a > length that small with photons of the same approximate wave length, would > result in a black hole? TIA, AG*

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:39:03 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/6/2019 1:56 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you >> make a photon with a wavelength

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 2:59:39 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > There is a related concept, the Planck Mass that also involves the 3 most > fundamental constants in nature, the speed of light the Planck constant and > the Gravitational constant. If you take the Planck energy > (c^5*h/2*PI*

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/6/2019 1:56 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck length it will have so much mass-

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:53:52 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths. If you > make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck > length it will have so much mass-energy that it will fold spacetime > around it and becom

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-06 Thread John Clark
There is a related concept, the Planck Mass that also involves the 3 most fundamental constants in nature, the speed of light the Planck constant and the Gravitational constant. If you take the Planck energy (c^5*h/2*PI*G)^1/2 and confine it in a box one Planck length (G*h/2*PI*c^3)^1/2 on a side i

Re: Planck Length

2019-01-05 Thread Brent Meeker
To measure small things you need comparably short wavelengths.  If you make a photon with a wavelength so short it can measure the Planck length it will have so much mass-energy that it will fold spacetime around it and become a black hole...so you won't be able to use it to measure anything.