--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting
stuck in *any thing*.
Having as a goal during meditation the tracing a seed
syllable back to its source --
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting stuck in
*any
thing*.
Having as a goal during meditation the tracing a seed syllable back
to its source -- silence.
sigh Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
I see
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting stuck in
*any
thing*.
Having as a goal during meditation the tracing a seed syllable
back
to its
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting stuck in
*any
thing*.
Having as a goal during meditation the tracing a seed syllable
back to its
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting
stuck in *any thing*.
Having as a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting stuck
in
*any
thing*.
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
sigh Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
I see you're back to the silly semantic game again.
No, you're being unclear, Vaj. Tracing the seed syllable
back to its source occurs during meditation, does it not?
Is that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
sigh Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
I see you're back to the silly semantic game again.
No, you're being unclear, Vaj. Tracing the seed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
sigh Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
I see you're back to the silly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
sigh Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
I see you're back to the silly semantic game again.
No, you're being unclear, Vaj. Tracing the seed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:22 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things.
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:06 PM, sparaig wrote:
OK, that's what the Esalen book says. The TM studies are not
anecdotal accounts. It will be interesting to see what a 3-month
study shows, although 4 months is the average time for the brainwaves
to show their greatest average change during TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:06 PM, sparaig wrote:
OK, that's what the Esalen book says. The TM studies are not
anecdotal accounts. It will be interesting to see what a 3-month
study shows, although 4 months is the average
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as what
TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report
transcending
during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly surprising...
It'd probably depend on what *style* of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
same as what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers
don't report transcending
during TM until after-the-fact,
On Apr 18, 2006, at 8:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
same as what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers
don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip
Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
Good advice, but do you honestly think it's possible?
From my point of view, Lawson represents an almost-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as
what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report
transcending during TM until after-the-fact,
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as
what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
I don't engage much in the bark-fest of tribalistic beligerencies, including in yoga, though common sense and truthfulness are indeed imperative in the life of any being. One of the ways Patanjali got it wrong was in how he defined yoga:
What is yoga? There are three definitions:
1)
On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
What on earth is your *problem*??
I'm my own questioner. I asked my own question.
You won't answer either Lawson's original question
or my version of it, and your nonresponses have been
irrationally testy. Why should I not assume you're
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't engage much in the bark-fest of tribalistic beligerencies,
including
in yoga, though common sense and truthfulness are indeed imperative
in the
life of any being. One of the ways Patanjali got it wrong was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
What on earth is your *problem*??
I'm my own questioner. I asked my own question.
You won't answer either Lawson's original question
or my version of it, and your
On Apr 18, 2006, at 3:26 PM, authfriend wrote:
That wasn't the question. Lawson specified that it
was one of the styles. He's asking if what you
describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
a potential outcome.
This was the question I was answering.
If you're asking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 3:26 PM, authfriend wrote:
That wasn't the question. Lawson specified that it
was one of the styles. He's asking if what you
describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
a
On Apr 18, 2006, at 4:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
In other words: In this style of Samatha, are you
instructed to trace the seed syllable back to its
source (i.e., the goal of this style of meditation)?
Or do you find yourself tracing the seed syllable
back to its source when you practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 4:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
In other words: In this style of Samatha, are you
instructed to trace the seed syllable back to its
source (i.e., the goal of this style of meditation)?
Or do you find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as what
TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report
transcending
during TM until after-the-fact,
On Apr 18, 2006, at 6:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same
as what
TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
same as what TMers call transcending. Given that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
From my point of view, Lawson represents an almost-
perfect example of the TM paradigm, which is based on
the assumption that the TM view of things
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:02 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
What on earth is your *problem*??
I'm my own questioner. I asked my own question.
You won't answer either Lawson's original question
or my version of it, and your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
What on earth is your *problem*??
I'm my own questioner. I asked my own question.
You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 3:26 PM, authfriend wrote:
That wasn't the question. Lawson specified that it
was one of the styles. He's asking if what you
describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 6:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
From my point of view, Lawson represents an almost-
perfect example of the TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
From my
This very exercise you describe is svadhyaya, essential in the maximum utilization of 8-fold yoga, much like tuning an analog radio to a station to its maximum synergistic potential.
A no-brainer, yah, no-brainer, Ha! What a concept.
On 4/18/06, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
From my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
You won't answer either Lawson's original question
or my version of it, and your nonresponses have been
irrationally testy. Why should I not assume
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:45 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
[...]
I suggest you read The Buddhist Tradition of Samatha:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that the technique
desribed in the pdf is
quite distorted and won't go as deep as TM. Ironically for the
very reason why it asserts
that it goes deep: it advocates control and makes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that the technique
desribed in the pdf is
quite distorted and won't go as deep as TM. Ironically for the
very reason why
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a
long and continuous history of producing fully enlightened
Buddhas.
Yeah, but they're not TM, so how good
can they possibly be? Get a grip, man.
To subscribe,
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
It does not advocate control but leaves it to the individual to
find a medium between attention and total relaxation. When this is
not done properly you get problems like those often seen in TM:
falling asleep and slouching, bad asana or
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a
long and continuous history of producing fully enlightened
Buddhas.
Yeah, but they're not TM, so how good
can they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
It does not advocate control but leaves it to the individual
to
find a medium between attention and total relaxation. When this
is
not done properly you get problems like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a
long and continuous history of producing fully
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
It does not advocate control but leaves it to the individual
to
find a medium between attention and total relaxation. When
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
It does not advocate control but leaves it to the
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:52 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a long and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:52 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:19 AM, sparaig wrote:
Lucid dreaming is different than witnessing dreaming. Even the lucid
dreaming folk (other than these guys apparently) make that
distinction these days.
The techniques work for witnessing ALL states, including waking. In
terms of spiritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that the
technique
desribed in the pdf is
quite distorted and won't go as deep as TM. Ironically for the
very reason
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:19 AM, sparaig wrote:
Lucid dreaming is different than witnessing dreaming. Even the
lucid
dreaming folk (other than these guys apparently) make
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip
just taught the proper way in the first place. But that's what
happens when the purity of the tradition is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:19 AM, sparaig wrote:
Lucid dreaming is different than witnessing dreaming. Even
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:51 AM, authfriend wrote:
When this is
not done properly you get problems like those often seen in TM:
falling asleep and slouching, bad asana or posture
But these are not considered problems in TM.
Obviously.
To subscribe, send a message to:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip
just taught the proper way in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that the
technique desribed in the pdf is quite distorted and won't go
as deep as TM. Ironically for the very reason why it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:55 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
The techniques work for witnessing ALL states, including
waking. In terms of spiritual practice all are helpful.
On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:15 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote: I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that the technique desribed in the pdf is quite distorted and won't go as "deep" as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:15 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:58 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am actually quite serious: I really do believe that
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a purification
does happen once one sustains the state for extended periods:
With the attainment of the ninth state called balanced placement,
accomplished
with the force of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a
purification
does happen once one sustains the state for extended periods:
With the attainment of the ninth
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a
purification
does happen once one sustains the state for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However, I'm
still waiting for documentation of your claim as in research
published in peer reviewed journals.
And why are you waiting for that?
You need to get out more dude.
In
sparaig wrote:
Of course, there's no evidence that transcendence style
meditation has anything to do with TM.
There is plenty of evidence that TM is transcendence style Buddhist
meditation. The first historical yogin in India was Shakya the Muni.
Meditation is first mentioned, not in the
Vaj wrote:
Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a
thing or two or three...
So, how long has it been since you were in group program inside a
Maharishi Golden Dome?
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Vaj wrote:
Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a
thing or two or three...
So, how long has it been since you were in group program inside a
Maharishi Golden Dome?
Non sequitur.
Yahoo!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However,
I'm still waiting for documentation of your claim as in
research published in peer reviewed journals.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However,
I'm
still waiting for documentation of your claim as in research
published in peer reviewed journals.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sparaig wrote:
Of course, there's no evidence that transcendence style
meditation has anything to do with TM.
There is plenty of evidence that TM is transcendence style Buddhist
meditation. The first
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However,
I'm
still waiting for documentation
On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:22 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However,
I'm
still waiting for documentation of your claim as in
On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:49 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However,
I'm still waiting for documentation of your claim as in
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:49 PM, authfriend wrote:
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things.
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On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:45 AM, sparaig wrote:
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On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:13 PM, sparaig wrote:
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On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:13 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya: I recently received this from the Shamatha Project, which will be a rather sophisticated look at 'transcendence style meditation' using all the methodologies in current brain
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On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:13 PM, sparaig wrote:
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Hiya:
I recently received this from the Shamatha Project, which will be a
rather sophisticated look at
On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:45 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:13 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Hiya: I recently received this from the Shamatha Project, which will
Thank you for that referal, wayback, I'll look into him now. Are you familiar with any brain research done on TMers?
Flourishingly,Dharma MitraOf all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such
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Thank you for that referal, wayback, I'll look into him now. Are you
familiar with any brain research done on TMers?
Flourishingly,
Dharma Mitra
All the recent brain research on TM has been done by fred travis
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What does ethics have to do with oral sex?
Kant's categorical imperative -- paraphrasing,
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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Does anyone have information about brain studies, or any other
allopathic
studies of TM and the brain or yoga, mediation, chi kung, reiki and
the
brain?
http://tinyurl.com/lozhc
Meditation States and Traits:
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The book Why God Won't Go Away includes discussion of some brain
research while
people are doing various typees of meditation. The author is a
professor at th Univ of Penn
in Philadelphia (can't remember his name at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dharma Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for that referal, wayback, I'll look into him now. Are you
familiar with any brain research done on TMers?
Er,
http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/biblio.htm
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