"The
abdominal pain sounds more like FIP, to be honest, but I have a FIP cat
who also responded remarkably to the Winstrol, so same advice" Hi Amani, I'm interested in you're associating abdominal pain with FIP. Could you point me in the direction of more inform
and the name? Thanks.
Dotty - Freehold.
From: Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
Vicky,
I can't tell you much about the FIP, but as for the FELV, I can tell you
no posts?
sent this morning and didn't echo back.
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: feline leukemia list
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
no posts
Dear Vicky,
I haven't been involved in the felvtalk emails for awhile and I really do
not know the history of your cat or why you are considering FIP.
I do know that FIP is often fatal and relatively rapidly so. If you are
truely dealing with FIP, I have known only one individual who has
Vicky,
I can't tell you much about the FIP, but as for the FELV, I can tell you
the most important thing you can do for them is give them a good
species-appropriate diet. I recommend a homemade or commercial raw diet. My
felv+ (Abbey) has been on it for over 3 years and is doing remarkably well
Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject
Hi everyone
Great source of info on FIP is The Orion Society. They have a list, just
like this one that deals with FIP. I had a cat die from it years ago, still
breaks my heart. Horrible disease, but true, hard to read blood tests. I
would highly suggest checking out the list. A great big bunch
] FIP
Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it.
The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for
it if given the vaccination..
This is too important not to mention
L
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From: Lee Evans
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From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
I didn't know there was a vaccine for FIP. I know there's a vaccine for FIV
which causes
This is true for FIV. There is no FIP vaccine. There is no test for FIP.
Sharyl
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From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats
Try searching for FIP nosodes in Google. There are some out there with
50% success rates.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
This is true for FIV. There is no FIP vaccine. There is no test for
FIP.
Sharyl
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From: GRAS g
There are drops that are put into the nose for FIP as a vaccine . Reliable
diagnosis is based on all the symptoms put together and much more easily
recognized when it’s the wet form of FIP with “ascites’.
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
did she also have a tendecy to avoid the liter box. Casey does that.
Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote:
Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's
long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits
clear liquid? Clear
can you refer me to info that says FIP vaccine makes cat test positive?
Can't say that I have heard that before. I do know that if the cat was
previously exposed to corona vitus, it is ineffective.
Gary
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From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sent
Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if
given the vaccination..
This is too important not to mention
L
- Original Message -
From: Lee Evans
To: felvtalk
Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine
Christiane Biagi
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Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:
Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if
given
Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's
long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits clear
liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd have him
checked for a renal condition.
Cats with CRF throw up very
Note treatments for FIP, FeLV, FIV
New treatments for atopic dermatitis, feline stomatitis, feline infectious
peritonitis (FIP), feline leukemia virus (FeLV), immunodeficiency virus
(FIV; cat AIDS) and other frustrating diseases that affect millions of dogs,
cats, and horses. Also, shelter
Good points. We've just learned so much skepticism about everything
FIP.
I'm wondering also - how do you get a vet to do something different -
like a vitamin C drip? I know one vet who would and could do that,
I'm pretty sure - but she's 60 miles away, and I have trouble finding
free
A few days ago I posted about the reversal of FIP that I saw
in my kitten Angelica on high dose intravenous ascorbic acid
and have been following these subsequent posts with some bit
of sadness. I believe Jenny makes the most valid arguments
and in an effort to provide more details about what
A few days ago I posted about the reversal of FIP that I saw
in my kitten Angelica on high dose intravenous ascorbic acid
and have been following these subsequent posts with some bit
of sadness. I believe Jenny makes the most valid arguments
and in an effort to provide more details about what
FIP. He also had eye involvement on ophthalmoscopic
exam including granulomas. Chuckie was so very sick on the
day that these positive test results returned and clearly
dying that there was no alternative but to euthanize him.
At this point the vet bills for Lukey, Chuckie and Angelica
have
FIP. He also had eye involvement on ophthalmoscopic
exam including granulomas. Chuckie was so very sick on the
day that these positive test results returned and clearly
dying that there was no alternative but to euthanize him.
At this point the vet bills for Lukey, Chuckie and Angelica
have
Part 3
Angelica
By now, after the deaths of my two precious boys Lukey, and
then baby Chuckie, it was becoming clear that we were
definitely seeing FIP in all three and on the right track
with the intravenous ascorbate but just not using enough.
Because Chuckie's immune system had been so
Part 3
Angelica
By now, after the deaths of my two precious boys Lukey, and
then baby Chuckie, it was becoming clear that we were
definitely seeing FIP in all three and on the right track
with the intravenous ascorbate but just not using enough.
Because Chuckie's immune system had been so
I posted a couple of links earlier that I found helpful
throughout the course of this nightmare and I post them
again below for those of you who may wish to undertake the
intravenous ascorbate protocol for your cats with FIP, FeLV,
URI, and other cat diseases. If I had it to do over again,
each
I posted a couple of links earlier that I found helpful
throughout the course of this nightmare and I post them
again below for those of you who may wish to undertake the
intravenous ascorbate protocol for your cats with FIP, FeLV,
URI, and other cat diseases. If I had it to do over again,
each
Prevention and Control
http://tinyurl.com/Belfields-paper
Sharyl
--- On Thu, 11/26/09, S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
From: S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Final
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, November 26
I think you all have valid points. Here are my thoughts.
1. Overdiagnosis of FIP - this is way hard to estimate because the
diagnosis is difficult to come by. In fact, the pathophysiology of the
disease is poorly understood so it may actually represent a constellation of
diseases. In the end
I do think that part of the issue with this fortunate situation, is
that some of us have seen vets call anything they can't explain, or
anything with a high corona titer, FIP, and it's frustrating, for lack
of a better word. I had a lovely healthy Persian kitten that died
AFTER spay
corona virus titres do NOT prove FIP. cats can have high FeCoV titres and
not progress to FIP, and cats who have progressed to FIP can have low titres
because their exposure was so long before that the virus itself is out of
their systems, although the FIP mutation is not.
FIP is the new favorite
That's what I understand. ITs proved through necropsy of the dead
cat. However, with certain signs yellowish fluid from the belly, high
corona titre, etc, vets tend to project that a cat has FIP. I heard
by the grapevine recently that Cornell is doing FIP research.
I am always very
I find the skepticism and questioning surrounding the diagnosis and
treatment of FIP interesting. I have to say, however, that every laboratory
test, whether it be in human or veterinary medicine, is subject to failure;
either giving false positives or false negatives. This is a far more common
The skepticism is by people who have dealt with FIP and been brought to our
knees by it. Any active rescue person has seen repeated cases of FIP. We have
tried all manner of treatment, very often without success. And when we have
had what could be called success it was always a situation
alone is not an indicator for FIP since many if not most cats have it in
their systems. This has been such a cause of panic even among vets who
should know better and has resulted in so many needless deaths that I
thought it bore repeating. What causes the coronavirus to mutate into FIP
For those of you who saw my earlier post about my kitten
Angelica and have wondered how vitamin C could have possibly
saved her from FIP, I thought that perhaps the information
below would help to explain it and convince others to try
this highly effective and completely benign treatment
For those of you who saw my earlier post about my kitten
Angelica and have wondered how vitamin C could have possibly
saved her from FIP, I thought that perhaps the information
below would help to explain it and convince others to try
this highly effective and completely benign treatment
Hi, All,
Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in
reversing FIP in one of my kittens. As most of you know, I
lost my FeLV+ boy Lukey in October and we were never sure
what actually caused his death, as though we were able to
improve his red blood count with a transfusion
Hi, All,
Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in
reversing FIP in one of my kittens. As most of you know, I
lost my FeLV+ boy Lukey in October and we were never sure
what actually caused his death, as though we were able to
improve his red blood count with a transfusion
I'm Very glad that Angelica has gotten better. However, at least with what
you wrote, I don't see a diagnosis of FIP. Was this a diagnosis made by a
vet? Were there some tests run with results that were indicative of FIP, or
was this just from observation of clinical signs?
Gary
Gary,
Angelica's litter mate Chuckie died from confirmed FIP on
November 11 with exactly the same symptoms and Angelica
became symptomatic just about 10 days after Chuckie
manifested with the disease. They were hospitalized
together but Chuckie's disease was too advanced by the time
we were
Gary,
Angelica's litter mate Chuckie died from confirmed FIP on
November 11 with exactly the same symptoms and Angelica
became symptomatic just about 10 days after Chuckie
manifested with the disease. They were hospitalized
together but Chuckie's disease was too advanced by the time
we were
I want a solution to FIP. FIP has killed cats in my care and ravaged my
spirit. I do not foster tiny kittens because I cannot deal with FIP. So I
want this to be real, a real solution to FIP. But I have to say
The only way to make a definitive diagnoe of FIP is by necropsy
@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my
six-month-old kitten
I want a solution to FIP. FIP has killed cats in my care
and
ravaged my spirit. I do not foster tiny kittens because I
cannot
deal with FIP. So I want this to be real, a real
solution to FIP.
But I have to say
@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my
six-month-old kitten
I want a solution to FIP. FIP has killed cats in my care
and
ravaged my spirit. I do not foster tiny kittens because I
cannot
deal with FIP. So I want this to be real, a real
solution to FIP.
But I have to say
Davis.
It was great to see the room almost full,with some new
faces. The meeting was video taped and will be availabe
to order on the SOCK FIP website soon. If you haven't
visited yet, the web site is: http://www.SOCKFIP.org.
Dr. P talked for about an hour about the research and the
need
Hello,
I am desperately searching for a no kill shelter to take in three remaining
kittens from a litter of 5 rescued a few months ago. We lost the first two to
suspected fip (couldnt afford the biopsy to confirm). Already have 3 healthy
permanently adopted rescues and no room at the inn
Hi Caroline
I love the term Gentle soul. My first to pass from FELV was this way. In
fact he was so laid back we did not realize he was in trouble until it was
too late. He crashed after being kept overnight on IV antibiotics. He
imoroved enough for me to hold him happy and alert, and that same
I wrote earlier this week about Tessa's big belly. Before introducing her to
my other kitties I wanted to be sure she did not have FIP. Our internal med
vet offered to ultrasound her belly. She, too, was alarmed when she saw her.
The ultrasound showed just fat cells, no liquid. Great way
Have you joined the FIP yahoo group? If not, do so. They are great. [EMAIL
PROTECTED] FIP is not really contagious in the sense that Felv is. I have
had 3 fosters die of it and all the other fosters that were exposed to them are
fine. And it's not because they were foster-mates
Thanks. Yes, I do belong. And thank-you for sharing your personal
experience, too. A friend had one cat die from FIP at about 2 years of age
and his litter mate lived to 18. My other cats are all 8 or older. Tessa is
age unknown but at least a year old.
L
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Well let me know what they find out. Swollen belly/any type fluid filling in
the abdomen is so scary. But god, that it's fip revelation from the doctor
is honestly the worst of the worst. But it only happened to me with the 3rd
and final one- and by then, when the results came back, he had
They found fat cells. Doctor said she's just a tubby girl. No FIP. She said
no problem introducing Tessa. She has lost 1.3 lbs since I rescue her. She
was ten pounds and is very tiny. Her back legs would slide out from under
her all the time. And she was a stray...this man was feeding her (very
to give meds to too. You should
see if your vet can try that.Alice
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? Hey
Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I
start him
: catatonya
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM
Hey Gloria,
We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I
start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for
days... He has escaped
food and think they
are getting a treat.
HTH
Sharyl
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM
Hey Gloria,
We've tried
that.Alice
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? Hey
Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I
start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him
Hi, me again,
I just re-read some info on FIP at this site, and they are saying FCoV
transmission is primarily through shared litterboxes, so even less chance
for worry...
http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html
Beth
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who dx'd FIP. Now I know
there were
not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to
antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was
never
seen again he was 10. I do not know about the tummy part I do know
he was
losing weight.
Sally
On 11/2/08
A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach feels like the type of
accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will draw it
to see if characterisitic of FIP (straw colored) but the fluid should still
be tested.
FIP is frequently misdiagnosed. And yes, many cats carry
GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw
fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without reason to.
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Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue
good point, esp. w/regards to FIP, even some good vets don't know what
they are talking about.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:04 AM, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw
fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without
Might also want to check out
http://www.dr-addie.com/PreventionS1.htm
scroll to the bottom of the page for a list of cat litters that kill the
FCoV.
Lots of other great info on FIP on Dr. Addie's site.
Gary
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From: Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk
, being spoiled by her human up in
Northern Cali.:)
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From: Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 6:58 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?
A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach feels like the type
] wrote:
Hi all,
I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has
chronic herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing,
but his lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is
semiferal and hard to pill, much less use a nebulizer
:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-another fip Q
Hi Laurie,
If there are no other symptoms (fever, pronounced spine) then I
wouldn't worry. Wet FIP
normally progresses pretty quickly, from my experience and what I've
read. When I lost my Alice to it it was maybe 3
He's eating fine. The problem is he's 12 years old. Can cats 'harbor' fip
like felv?
tonya
Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tonya,
I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic
URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When
her
That's why I'm thinking it's not fip. This has been going on over a year (the
breathing difficulty). The weight gain only for a few months. I would think
he would have to show some other symptoms and be sicker than the breathing
problem if it's fip, but he does have a fat belly
great site. I'm going to assume if he's not got sicker over the past few months
it must just be weight gain. He is eating more because he likes the wet food
better.
thanks,
t
Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a link with a good explanation:
Hey Gloria,
We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start
him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days...
He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he
literally climbs the walls to escape! We have
His belly feels 'tight' to the touch. Can a cat keep an ongoing herpes
infection that never worsens or improves much?
Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A vet can usually tell if fluid in the
stomach feels like the type of
accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will draw
i don't know if they have something like this for the antibiotics he is
getting, but my vet gave Annie an injection that lasts for 2 weeks. she also
is difficult to pill, give liquids and is super good at hiding. she can get
lost in our house very easy. my Snuggles also hated pills, liquids,
asthma or chf at
that time). I just don't want to take him to the vet anymore. I don't see
him for weeks after a vet visit. :(
t
MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw
fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good
PROTECTED] wrote:
GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw
fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without reason to.
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue
Hi all,
I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has chronic
herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing, but his
lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is semiferal and hard
to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything
Now this was many years ago like 1972 when my Bud cat got sick. I was in
college and my dad took hin to the vet who dx'd FIP. Now I know there were
not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to
antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was never
seen
Hi. Another FIP question. My foster cat Tessa has a large belly. She was
spayed and vet said she was full of fat cells. She kind of sways when she
walks. Another vet examined her and said her belly was firm and not spongy
like an FIP belly would be. Any thoughts? She has mostly been isolated
Bud cat got sick. I was in
college and my dad took hin to the vet who dx'd FIP. Now I know there were
not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to
antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was never
seen again he was 10. I do not know about the tummy part
Hi Tonya,
I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic
URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When
her belly very first started to swell I noticed it, but the vet couldn't see
it (or perhaps didn't want me to worry too much prematurely
Well, it isn't a matter of harboring FIP. FIP is a mutation of coronavirus,
which many/most cats, especially those who have been through kill shelters,
have been exposed to at one time or another. Most cats can carry
coronavirus throughout their lives with no ill effects. There is no way
Hi Laurie,
If there are no other symptoms (fever, pronounced spine) then I
wouldn't worry. Wet FIP
normally progresses pretty quickly, from my experience and what I've
read. When I lost my Alice to it it was maybe 3 weeks or less from first
noticing symptoms to having her so swollen
I think it's called Rivalta's test?
Beth
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a test which MC will probably remember the name of that can rule
out FIP. Most vets do not know about it. If the cat does indeed have wet
FIP, the prognosis is very
That's it - thanks!
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's called Rivalta's test?
Beth
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Here's a link with a good explanation:
http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html
Beth :o)
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's it - thanks!
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's called Rivalta's test?
I wanted to resend this with a new subject line, since I am now able to access
the Archives and I'm scanning for info on FIP. None of what I'm finding is
making me feel better- only worse.
caroline
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ArchivesDate: Tue, 25 Dec 2007
15:02:21 -0500
I answered you, but feel free to call if you want. Please, please do not
panic. I will see if I can find some info on FIP for you outside of the
archives.
On Dec 25, 2007 2:17 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I wanted to resend this with a new subject line, since I am now able
i don't have the link in front of me--go to petsmart charities, and look up
their recorded seminars. there was one i attended a couple of months ago on
the most recent info re: FIP. it should be up on the site by now.
MC
On Dec 25, 2007 3:17 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
Don't worry about FIV. It's very hard to transmit except through deep
penetrating bite wounds. (I have an FIV+ cat of my own, have had others, and I
moderate an FIV group. Email off-list if you want more detail on this.)
FIP -- first off all, no way can it be diagnosed visually. It's
uveitis most certainly can be a symptom of dry FIP. But it can also be a
symptom of so many other things. Dry FIP is especially hard to diagnose
because the possible array of symptoms are so generic.
Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes I agree and I would think more
likely FELV than
Fortunately I have only had one cat w/dry FIP, and she didn't have uveitis.
On Dec 25, 2007 9:25 PM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
uveitis most certainly can be a symptom of dry FIP. But it can also be a
symptom of so many other things. Dry FIP is especially hard to diagnose
FIP. when i was
still involved with VIN (the parent of www.veterinarypartner.com that belinda
references), this relationship was just starting to come out, through the
Feline Genome Project results from UC Davis and other participants. the winn
feline foundation (whose link i don't happen to have
- Original Message -
From: Malone
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge (MaryChristine)
am really new to this whole situation. Adopted an abandoned tuxie and at 9
months he just got sick. 2 days later
: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
Sorry but no vet knows everything ... I personally know of this type of
vet worship costing animals their life. Just stating a fact ... take it or
leave it.
PS. I didn't call any vet a criminal
,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent
- Original Message -
From: Belinda
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie
in the day:)
Kelley
On 6/28/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the most important info, i believe, in the last few years, is the research
showing a genetic predisposition for the mutation from the usually benign
corona virus to the horrible FIP. when i was still involved with VIN
males roam and
fight.
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From: Kelley Saveikamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
Hey MC,
I, too, need
I counted up the percentages in Hideyo's list and they added up to 70%.
K
On 6/29/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn
feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's
what on theirs. http
@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often. winn feline
foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and that's what on
theirs. http
yep, exactly!
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From: Kelley Saveikamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
I counted up the percentages
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