Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Check your spam folder. For some reason that is where all my Felvtalk posts are going Sharyl On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:48 PM, Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net wrote: Is this list still up ?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums
Check your spam file. For some reason that is where all my Felvtalk e-mails are going Sharyl On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:12 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes. Can we help with something? -Original Message- From: Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net Sent: Nov 7, 2013 11:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums Is this list still up ?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-(
You have already gotten some good advise. Assist feeding is critical if she is going to have the strength to fight through this slump. Otherwise she'll starve to death. Here is the link to the Yahoo assist feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ Dehydrated cats feel lousy. It is easy to give sub q fluids at home. Here is the link to the site I used to learn how to give sub q fluids Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids http://www.tinyurl.com/63max I just saw your post where she froze when you tried to finger feed her. Maybe you were giving her too much food. I use syringes and only give 1/2 cc of food at a time. And sometime there is nothing else you can do Sharyl On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 5:06 PM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jennifer, Sorry to hear about your kitty. Has she had the virus since she was a kitten? Are you assist feeding her? I nursed my 10 year old out of a slump this summer (when I first found out he was pos) with sub-q fluids, assist feeding, low dose of prednisone and t-cyte injections. Just do what you're comfortable with, knowing you're doing all that you can for her. Some resources that I've found to be helpful: http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia and http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/. Hang in there. Katherine On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jennifer Ballew balle...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all- This is the first time I have posted to the forum. I have two FeLV positive cats, one two and one three years old. The older cat has never had any issues with illness whatsoever, but the younger has only recently started showing signs that her illness has caught up with her. Just within the last few days she has become very lethargic, stopped eating (and only drinks a small amount) and whenever she stands or walks she seems very unsteady and wobbly. I took her to the vet yesterday; they checked her blood counts which were low and said her kidney enzymes were elevated. They also said they could hear a heart murmur which is probably related to possibly being dehydrated. They gave her a B12 shot and I took her home. I already said if worst came to worst I wouldn't put her through any unnecessary treatments or subject her to any painful procedures and that I would strive only to provide the best supportive care for her while she was alive so that she would have the best chances. I'm just wondering if any of you have gone through the same thing and if I can expect her to pull out of this on her own, or, if she doesn't, how long she might have left. I'm sincerely heartbroken. I really thought I had nursed her through the most risky part of her illness (kittenhood) and that she would now go on to live a halfway long life. In any case, if anyone has any advice or information I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks all, Jennifer -- To love is to risk not being loved in return. To hope is to risk pain. To try is to risk failure, But risk must be taken, Because the greatest hazard in life Is to risk nothing. --Leo Buscaglia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing
Shelly all I can d I tell you what I did. When I was rescuing FeLV kittens I did have all my negatives vaccinated. It has been over 3 years since my last FeLV cat died. All of my negatives are still with me and are fine Sharyl From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing Hi Lee, Thanks for explaining. Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn negative. He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then again in Nov. I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too. Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV? Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their negatives vaccinated for FeLV? Shelley___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day
Lance, if you are the only one with a puncture wound I wouldn't worry either. Is Callie current on her rabies vaccine? Since you went to the doc for abx you may get a call from the Health Dept. I know I did when I went to the ER for treatment of an infected cat bite. I had to agree to quarantine my cat for 10 days.. Sharyl From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day Hi everyone, I wanted to ask for prayers and warm thoughts for my FeLV+ girl, Ember as well as my mother's (hopefully) negative cat, Callie. Somehow, Callie got into Ember's room, not once, but twice. The first time only lasted for a few minutes, but I discovered a terrible cat fight in progress when I got back upstairs. To disrupt the chase, I grabbed Callie to remove her from the room. I got a bloody finger with three puncture marks in the process. Later, I realized I should really get abx for the bite, so my dad took me to the doctor. We were gone about an hour. When I got back, I was saddened to find that I had stupidly managed to not completely close one of the doors to our rooms, and Callie had again gotten in. I don't know that the cats fought the second time. I think Callie might have explored the normally off limits rooms. I found Ember hiding but unshaken behind some clothes, and Callie didn't act like she was on edge, but I have no idea what happened. Needless to say, I'm very concerned about Callie's possible exposure to the virus. We've had a few run-ns over the last seven years, but nothing like the fight/chase I broke up today. My hope is that Callie being seven years old puts her at low risk for infection. She hasn't had any recent vax for FeLV, but she had the FeLV (including booster) when she was a kitten. She also seems very healthy. There was actually more tough cat stuff today involving a 17 yro diabetic who had to go for a dental (this ended on a good note), and my usual concerns about Ember. The radiologist hasn't contacted the surgeon after almost a week, and Ember probably needs surgical intervention for her diaphragmatic hernia. Please think of the two girls. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day
It was the local county health dept that contacted me about doing a home quarantine of my house cat that bit me. I had even taken a copies of her rabies shot with me when I went to the ER. Sharyl From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day Since we're on this subject, when I was at the doc's last night, he did ask me about the bite. I told him that it had come from an indoor family cat, and explained that she doesn't have any issues. He may have reported this, but I haven't gotten a call. Yet. He wants me to get a tetanus shot. He said that the shot would be ~$85 at the office, but $5 if given by the Health Department. I sprung for the $5 script, but I'm now wondering if they're going to question me. I'd be willing to pay the money to not have to deal with them, if there's concern that they'll interrogate me or take Callie away. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] inconsistent results from the snap and IFA tests
It can be confusing. Hopefully this chart will help http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html The IFA test will not show up as positive until the virus has moved to the bone marrow. I have no idea what a slight positive means. Wish vets wouldn't use that. Can you do the ELISA again in 60-90 days? Sharyl From: I-Chun C. C. Chang changic...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] inconsistent results from the snap and IFA tests Dear friends, We earlier did a snap ELISA test for my 16 yrs old indoor late stage CKD girl, Meowko, which was positive. But We just got her confirmatory IFA test back on Thursday, which is negative. In order to confirm whether the first snap test was false positive, we did the snap test again. The result was still positive (although we were told that it is slightly positive, I am not sure what this means...I guess it is like pregnancy test's faint line? ) Before all these tests, Meowko was tested twice negative when we adopted her and received vaccines. I was wondering if anyone on this list has experience with contradictory results on snap and IFA tests? or if you have any thoughts on what we can read out of these tests? Can the contradictory results provide any clues for Meowko's current virus infection situation and therefore treatment possibilities? Any thoughts and advice are appreciated. Thank you very much. with my best, Catherine ( Meowko) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - CW Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be spending their remaining years in cages?? On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - CW Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
You both are in my thoughts and prayers Sharyl From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. neg
The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl From: Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. neg That is what I was worried about him eating out of there dishes,, water bowls and using litterbox. I am still very scared and hope I made the right decision. I have four other healthy 3 yr old females. I would never forgive myself if someone else got sick but wanted to do what was best for bama. Do we vaccinate every year? CHERI On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: They don't have to bite to transmit the virus.It can be transmitted but sharing food water. But the vaccinne seems to have worked just fine over the years for me. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. neg I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the are aggressive bite, etc. Gloria From: Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV MY BAMA RAMa thank u all CHERI ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a newbie
There is information on the main page you should read. I am one that mixed positives and vaccinated adult negatives. The key here is adult. Kittens are very susceptible to FeLV. I would not recommend mixing until the kittens are at least 1 year old and current on their FeLV vaccine. JMO Sharyl From: cer...@new.rr.com cer...@new.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] a newbie Hi everyone: I just joined up, this is my first post. To be brief, I volunteer at our local animal shelter, and just adopted a FeLeuk+ girl. I have worked with them at the shelter, but never had one in my home, so I joined up to get some tips and help, when I need it. She is about 2 years of age, named Raja, very pretty, and also very sweet, and a happy girl. The shelter had sent in an IFA test on her, to see where she stands, and we are waiting for the results of that. I have just switched to an integrative vet, and plan to take Raja to her after we get the results. I also have 8 other cats and 1 rat, all of which came from the shelter (fallout from volunteering), and I am usually fostering for them as well, usually cats, but I’ve also had rabbits, ferrets, a hedgehog, a hamster, and rats. Now I have a mama and her 6 babies, which were born here. Of course Raja has her own room, with the rat in his cage to keep her company. Before joining I had never heard of mixing them with non leuk cats-I find this interesting. Not sure I would have the guts to do it, though. I was wondering-are there files on the home site that I can look through before I start asking questions that have probably been asked here a million times? Thanks so much for any future help. Chris C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
That is what did when I started rescuing feral FeLV kittens. My house kitties were all adults. I got them current on their FeLV vaccine before mixing them. None of my negative kitties contract FeLV. My FeLV kittens lived from 1 - 4 yrs. Each was very special and made a huge impact on my life. I miss them dearly and wouldn't have changed anything. Sharyl. From: Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is another decision I recently made CHERI On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote: I have A 5 yr old double positive with stomatitis and constant diarrhea ... I am soo scared. I also vaccinated my four others (tho I no it's not 100%). I don't have much money and I am so scared of losing him. Thank you I'm an emotional reck CHERI On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:06 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: So sorry. I know how it feels to loose a loved one human or animal. I am hoping no more of my babies leave me soon. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battlingStomatitis the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy. I loved him for all of it! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
My heart goes out to you and your friend. Napoleon was truly loved Sharyl From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battlingStomatitis the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy. I loved him for all of it! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Malignant Tumor In Ear
I am not member but found these groups Feline Cancer group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ Feline Lymphoma Caregivers website http://felinelymphomacaregivers.org/index.html Feline Lymphoma group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/ Hope you are able to find some help for her Sharyl From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Malignant Tumor In Ear It's called high grade epithelial neoplasm carcinoma of the ear canal. The tumor was debulked and laser removed twice. Each time it grew back quicker than the time before. The cat was rescued by my friend Karen. The cat is still chubby, eating very well, plays and purrs but the mass can be seen in her left ear. She tested negative on the combo test. Does anyone know a group with whom I could discuss this issue? I searched most of the Yahoo! groups but only found one that deals with cancer. The cat so very much wants to continue living but the tumor is malignant and has spread into the lymph node which is swollen to the size of a walnut and growing. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
Laura. I'm afraid with a positive IFA test there isn't a chance Dani will shed the virus. Here is the link to a chart that explains the meaning of the test results http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html I have rescued several FeLV kittens. They lived from 1-4 yrs. I didn't find supplements helpful but others may have had better luck. Many FeLV kitties on this list have lived for several years. You are already on top of what will be best for Dani - good food, lots of love and a stress free environment. Try to stay on top of any health issues. Since her immune system is compromised she may be more susceptible to URIs, etc. By the way I had all my FeLV babies spayed or neutered. I felt it was more stressful for them if left unfixed. It broke my heart when I lost each of them but I would change what I did. Each was special and brought joy to my heart. My other rescues were adults. I had them all vaccinated for FeLV and let my positives have the run of the house. With 17 other cats that may be hard for you to do. Bless you for caring and giving Dani a home Sharyl From: laurak...@aol.com laurak...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction Hieveryone, I am new to this group--and new to FeLV. I just took in an FeLV+ kitty from the shelter where I am a volunteer.Her name is Dani and she is beautiful. Long story short, she and her three siblings were found outside in a box when they were about a week old. They came to the shelter and tested positive for FeLV (ELISA). They were retested and again it was positive. At 9 weeks,they had an IFA test, all positive. During this time, they were bottle fed until about 8 weeks, shuttled to and from the shelter by a staff member. They were also treated for URIswith azithromycin. The shelter cultures all incoming cats for ringworm and unfortunately theirs came back positive, so they were dipped in lyme a couple of times a week for a while and put on Itraconazole. Dani took longer to shake it off and so was completely alone for some time. During their time at the shelter they were vaccinated with 2 rounds of FVRCP, a rabies vaccine and spayed/neutered. Sadly, Dani's littermates all came down with different issues(I don't know all the details, but I know the vet suspected FIP) and were euthanized. Little Dani was left alone, in a bathroom with no windows, and not many visitors. The second I found out about her, I set up thesun room off my bedroom (it was unheated but fixed that fast) and took her home. Anyway, I wanted to give the whole background so you know just how much she has been through in her short life. While even here it is not optimal--she is isolated--it is so much better than being stuck in the stuffy bathroom. Here, she bird watches, has a ton of toys, a much better diet and a ton of cuddles (though not as much as I wish. I have 17 other cats.) I have two big questions: is it possible for her to become negative with a positive IFA result at 9 weeks? And, second: how do I best care for her? I have her on a high quality canned only diet (wellness and weruva--no fish) and minimize stress as much as possible. Are there supplements I should be giving? Are NuCat vitamins recommended? Are my food choices OK for her? I will never vaccinate or even take her to a vet (I'd have one come to me if necessary to minimize stress.) I feel terrible she is alone alot of the timeand I have thought about bringing in another young FeLV + kitty for her, but I am worried about causing stress, having it backfire. Ihave all the patience in the world when it comes to having cats work out issues, but I'm also very careful when bringing in a new cat, quarantining for a couple of weeks, letting her explore while I put othersin other rooms, etc. But I wouldn't have that ability to do so with a companion for Dani as I literally don't have any rooms left. Sorry for such a long post! I really want to do right by her. I love her to pieces. Thank you! Laura and Dani girl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
Or hiding under the bed could be a sign she was scared. It is unusual for an adult cat to contract FeLV. I would definitely have Pumpkin retested Sharyl From: strchalb...@aol.com strchalb...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia HiSharyl, Thank you so much for the quick reply:) I would have to guess she is about 4 years old. I've had cats with worms before, but they were quite obvious in the stool... I will try to check her stool more closely. So some pumpkin for my Pumpkin how ironic... might need to try that and I will let you know. Maybe it will be best for her to stay in the basement,near her pottyfor awhile? I had one other response, and he said, she just may have had an accident, which is what I might be thinking. I think previously, we were chasing the kids in the house, and she may have gotten scared and it just sorta ran out... What about hiding under the bed?? She did that when she first came here, and has been good now for a few weeks, but today she was under the bed again? I read that sometimes can be a sign that they aren't feeling well? Thanks again for your time and knowledge: Tricia -Original Message- From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:42 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia Hi Tricia. You don't say how old Pumpkin is. It is usual to re-test for FeLV after 3 months. Since she used to be outside has she been treated for worms? That may be why her stools are soft. Many add some canned plain pumpkin (not the spiced pie filling) to the canned food to add fiber when a kitty has diarrhea. Usually start out with 1 tsp. I've never used Tylosin Tartrate. Here is a link to more info http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_tylosin.html Seems to be used as an anti-inflammatory and for colitis. You need to treat the diarrhea. FeLV is probably not the reason she has it Sharyl From: strchalb...@aol.com strchalb...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats. A friend decided to take one home, Pumpkin, and had her all fixed up at the vet with shots, spay and declaw. She found out she has feline leukemia. She kept her for about a month, but I guess she was making a mess as far as using the litter box. I told her I didn't want her to go to an over crowded humane society, so I took her back. She is now in the house, as she is front declawed, and she is not to be around the other cats with her cancer. So... I've had her home since just before Christmas, and she's been fine other than not eating a whole lot. Her stool is quiet soft, and I did find a few hard turds in two different sleeping places that she uses. Well now today, she had a ver messy stool on the wood floor in the hallway!! Really shocked me as she's been so good using the littler box. Is this a sign that she is getting sick, the not using the littler box? She has a prescription for Tylosin Tartrate, and she said to give this to her(powder form), when/if she gets sick??? She does seems to sleep most of the day, but I know cats do do that:) She also does purr quite loud!! Must be a good sign. She will play with a string too. So she's been very happy, but now I had to resort to putting her back in the basement with her food and litter. I might end up sleeping down there with her again, as I did when she first came in thehouse. She has had the run of the house now for weeks, but I just don't trust her since her accident. I've read where infected cats can live quite long, but yet others do not. I certainly would not want to put her thru all sorts of treatments... Thank you for your time:))) I appreciate any input for my Pumpkin! Tricia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
Hi Tricia. You don't say how old Pumpkin is. It is usual to re-test for FeLV after 3 months. Since she used to be outside has she been treated for worms? That may be why her stools are soft. Many add some canned plain pumpkin (not the spiced pie filling) to the canned food to add fiber when a kitty has diarrhea. Usually start out with 1 tsp. I've never used Tylosin Tartrate. Here is a link to more info http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_tylosin.html Seems to be used as an anti-inflammatory and for colitis. You need to treat the diarrhea. FeLV is probably not the reason she has it Sharyl From: strchalb...@aol.com strchalb...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats. A friend decided to take one home, Pumpkin, and had her all fixed up at the vet with shots, spay and declaw. She found out she has feline leukemia. She kept her for about a month, but I guess she was making a mess as far as using the litter box. I told her I didn't want her to go to an over crowded humane society, so I took her back. She is now in the house, as she is front declawed, and she is not to be around the other cats with her cancer. So... I've had her home since just before Christmas, and she's been fine other than not eating a whole lot. Her stool is quiet soft, and I did find a few hard turds in two different sleeping places that she uses. Well now today, she had a ver messy stool on the wood floor in the hallway!! Really shocked me as she's been so good using the littler box. Is this a sign that she is getting sick, the not using the littler box? She has a prescription for Tylosin Tartrate, and she said to give this to her(powder form), when/if she gets sick??? She does seems to sleep most of the day, but I know cats do do that:) She also does purr quite loud!! Must be a good sign. She will play with a string too. So she's been very happy, but now I had to resort to putting her back in the basement with her food and litter. I might end up sleeping down there with her again, as I did when she first came in thehouse. She has had the run of the house now for weeks, but I just don't trust her since her accident. I've read where infected cats can live quite long, but yet others do not. I certainly would not want to put her thru all sorts of treatments... Thank you for your time:))) I appreciate any input for my Pumpkin! Tricia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave)
Dave, I have to agree with you. I have fostered many FeLV kittens who were positive from birth. Most died before they were 2 yrs old. Only one survived until 4 yo. In my experience kittens born to a positive mom test positive from the get go Shayrl From: David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave) Thanks for your reply Beth. I'm an engineer and I'm trying to make sense out of the tests...and what you said isn't all making sense to me yet :). The kittens had been separated from their mother for most of their lives. The mother was an outside-cat and died/disappeared right after the kittens were born. My nephew hand-fed the litter and we adopted two of five original kittens. They would have been un-exposed to other cats for more than six months before we tested them originally. The original Elisa should have been positive because we had them for 90 days before spaying them and they were in my nephew's care for many more months before that. The vet also latches onto that period as originating their exposure to the virus...because nothing else makes sense. The cat community lives in my sister's barn in a rural section of Wisconsin...she has put many cats up for adoption and has never had a case of FeLV in any of the their cats to date. The IFA detects viral protein either in the blood or blood cells. If Tux had anemia from FeLV itself then the virus would have to be very active in the bone marrow and blood, or, her immune system was compromised and she got a parasitic infection...also involving FeLV in the bone marrow. In both cases, with something as severe as anemia presenting, the IFA would be positive. It doesn't make sense that the IFA could be negative under these circumstances. From what I read you don't get anemia on initial exposure to the virus...the anemia is a side effect of serious infection of the bone marrow and white blood cells. Here is what I read about the snap test online (considering the source): 1) There is room for interpretation of the results by the technician (color detection). Sometimes the color is very faint or an over-zealous tech can see a faint color when there is none. 2) Some other antibodies in the blood can cross-react with the elisa...giving a false positive. 3) First two issues aside, the test is 95% accurate. IFA is over 99% accurate. Thanks again for your reply...I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why the IFA was negative in such a severe case of anemia and how Tux could ever have been exposed to the virus. Thanks. Dave ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anemia and negative IFA
Dave I would have your other cat tested. I find it hard to believe that an indoor only cat suddenly tests positive. Here is the link to a flow chart I found helpful to understand the test results http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html Hope it helps Sharyl From: David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] anemia and negative IFA Our female cat, Tux, is 5 years old and is recovering from acute anemia...we are 2-cat household...both house cats, not allowed outside and no exposure to other cats as far as we know. Both were tested at the age of spaying (~9 mos) for FeLV (Elisa) and were negative and vaccinated against it...and boostered 2 years ago. Tux's blood chem was normal except for severe anemia (10% RBC). She had lost 2 lbs off her normal weight (sudden)...had a positive snap test and negative IFA for FeLV. Her blood also tested positive for immune reaction to her own blood. We started treatment on prednisone and antibiotics and she has gained 1/4 pound and boosted her new RBC count by 5x, now RBC is at 15% by blood volume...all in one week's time. The vet is certain she has FeLV...even though we're having a hard time understanding how she could possibly have been exposed...and if exposed why the vaccine didn't prevent infection (it seems like a real long shot that she would have caught FeLV). I am also trying to understand how the IFA test could be negative...the low RBC count seems to indicate that this is secondary viremia...and infecting her bone marrow (which should lead to a positive IFA). The vet keeps suggesting implausible ways she may have caught the virus in order to maintain the diagnosis as FeLV. Please let me know your experiences and please be honest if you think we're in denial. From online research I've been able to determine that the snap test is about 90-95% reliable (and prone to technician error if faintly positive) and the IFA is 99.9% accurate...but may not register right away if she has an initial infection. Thanks for any advice you can share. Dave -- Dave Arthurs 415.518.9960 mobile 415.344.6546 office ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Just resubscribed
Hi Emma. You have found a wonderful new home Sharyl From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Just resubscribed Hi All, Apparently I wasn't subscribed anymore and didn't realize it. I am subscribed again now. **NEWS** We now have a DOG, her name is Emma and we adopted her from a local rescue. She is a chihuahua mix. How has everyone been?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://freeanimalrescuewebsites.org/ http://belindasauro.com/ http://hostdesign4u.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Litter box with lid
I use the large Rubbermaid totes. They can dig to their hearts content and the litter stays in the tub. Also good for those kitties that do their business standing up instead of squatting. I keep a small stool outside the box for those who have problems jumping into the tub. Sharyl From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Litter box with lid Hello everyone, One of my cats, Kitty, who is FeLV positive, is rather messy when she uses the litter box and I was wondering if getting her a litter box with a large top/lid is a good idea Any thoughts? Thanks as always, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Advice
Dee, there are better anti-nausea meds for cats. A good one is ondansetron (generic for Zofran). Your vet has to write an Rx for it. Typcal dose is 1 mg 2-3 times/day. Check around as prices vary a lot between pharmacies. Original Strength Pepcid AC is used for cats with excess stomach acid. Do NOT use any other type of pepcid. Typical dose is 2.5 mg EOD. It doesn't sound like your cat has excess stomach acid. As I wrote earlier Cerenia has helped some cats with nausea but ondansetron seems to work for more cats. Sharyl___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice
Dee, I'm sorry your cat is having problems. Cerenia is typically Rx'd as an anti-emetic (vomiting). Some vets also Rx it for nausea even though there are better drugs to use for nausea. Each kitty is unique and Cerenia does seem to help fight nausea in some cats. Most in the FAF yahoo group give it for 4 days then take a day off. Not sure what you vet recommended. The FAF list members have found Cerenia to be a very effective and safe anti-emetic. Here is a link to a good vet article on meds used to control vomiting. The info on Cerenia is about 1/2 way down under the heading 'A new antiemetic drug for dogs'. http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=676860 Hope this helps Sharyl From: Dawn Morrison dlmgreen1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus. Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who ran bloodwork. Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough nutrients. She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll eat at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the bloodwork out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they were. My vet wants to start her on cerenia, keep her on the anitbio and the app stimulant. We're basically going to take it day by day at this point. Since she is now shedding the virus she is staying in her bedroom (which has a screen door on it) but is a little stressed that she can't come out and visit when we are home. I've been going in and visiting as much as possible but it's hard when I'm gone for most of the day. We have another kitty who we have to get tested in 2 months to see if she was exposed. If anyone has suggestions or opinions I would appreciate it. Also, has anyone used cerenia and is there anything I should know about it? Has anyone else gone through similiar experiences and can offer any advice? Thanks in advance and sorry this is so long. Dee ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nitnoy and felv
I was saddened to read that Nitnoy has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. She is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels You all are in my thoughts and prayers Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Nitnoy and felv My Nitnoy crossed over today at 12:45. She had been with me since 2008, survived a raccoon biting of her tail and being FELV +. There was nothing to idicate whaat was going on. During the holidays, she was not doing well so took her to ER. They did x-rays and complete bloodwork. I had told them she was FELV+ but they did not seem upset that she was just 1 point low on red and white cells. After the holiday, I took her to my vet as she was not improving, had not passed urine or stool. First thing he did was look at her anal glands. They were impacted and infected. He cleaned them out and gave her Covina and we brought home Orbax to be given once daily. Everything was much better, she was back to her self. Then Friday, she began hiding, not eating or drinking so took her to vet on Saturday. ONE THING SHE DID THAT STRUCK ME ODD - SHE TRIED TO EAT THE FIRBARK THAT MY ORCHIDS ARE PLANTED IN. Sat when we got to vet, my dr was not there, but his wife (also a vet) was. She said her lymph glands were slightly enlarged and gums very pale. We did another blood panel. Her white cells were .98 and her red blood cells were 3.2. Kidney and liver functions were normal as were creatine and bun. We thought about going to ER for transfusion, but she would have to stay over the weekend in a cage and we decided the stress would outweigh any good it might do plus her body might just kill the new blood and we would be right back where we started plus stress. Again, gave Covina shot and started again on Orbax. I wanted to try a tonic that has worked wonders on cancers, etc. Vet said ok but keep a record of what I did in case it worked. She actually seemed to improve. I was feeding with an eye dropper aruond 50 ml every hour (i can ad mixed with 3 cans hot water so she could swallow and also to egt fluids into her. She got around 50ml of tonic also. She took a turn for the worse this am at 3:30, but then seemed to get better. She was breathing easier, heart was strong and she responded to my voice and touch. By 12:45, she had gone completely the opposite direction. I was holding her aganst me as she seemed to like the body warmth when she gasped 3 or 4 times and the light in her eyes went out. I knew she was going and I told her it was all right. She held on with her claws, gave a sigh and that was all. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Again it really depends on the kitten. I've rescued 10 FeLV kittens. All had their rabies shot and initial series of FVRCP shots. All were asymptomatic at the time. None got sick from the vaccines. I eventually lost all of them to FeLV. They lived from 1 yr to 4 yrs. It is a decision each individual has to make. Mine got their rabies vax because it is required by law. They got the FVRCP series of 2 shots because I did not want to risk them getting distemper. There is no one rule that applies to all cats except to love them and give them the best food and care you can. It broke my heart to lose my FeLV babies but they brought me so much joy. I only hope I was able to give them 1/2 of what they gave me. Hugs to yours Sharyl From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations Don't. My one got sick immediately after an FvRCP annual vaccination Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What are your opinions on vaccinating FelV positive kittens?? They are 5 months old and should have their first vaccinations, but I've had immune compromised kittens die from them, so I worry. They do not go outside but are confined to three large rooms in my cat sanctuary. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Janine, I'm not sure where you got the 28 days from exposure to testing positive. I don't think it is that cut and dried. Most of what I have read suggest retesting in 60-90 days. Like someone else has posted I wouldn't worry about the other 8 kittens. I believe you wrote the one kitten has been isolated from the other 8. FeLV is not as contagious as some would leave you to believe. I hope someone with more information will respond. Sharyl From: janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nematodes
Do a search on Amazon for nematodes for fleas and you'll find several Sharyl From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Nematodes Since we live in a safe area with no traffic all my cats go outside except for 3 who never even try. I work hard to keep the fleas down, and use Advantage, flea comb, and flea traps in every room, but I never heard of nematodes. Where do I get them? Lorrie On 10-06, GRAS wrote: All around the house on the grass and under their outdoor enclosures. Do you use nematodes inside your house? I thought they are just for the yard, need soil and water to do their thing. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again
Edna, ondansetron (generic for Zofran) is a good med for nausea for cats. Your vet will have to give you a Rx for it. Check around at your local pharmacies as cost will vary a lot. Usual dose is 1 mg every 8-12 hrs. That and the pain meds will help make her comfortable. I also fed whatever they wanted from meat baby food to baked salmon. Ondansetron can also be ordered on line with a Rx from http://www.thrivingpets.com/ Hugs to Sophia Sharyl From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again She does get nauseous a lot and we have her on some strong pain meds. She is losing so much weight but I give her Fancy Feast and love on her. Unlike dogs, cats are such picky eaters to begin with :( I wish she would eat burgers and fries. The vet who diagnosed her has been our vet for a long time and I absolutely trust her. I knew something was wrong with SuzieQ because she just wasn't acting like herself and she was a bit thinner and then Dr. M found a big mass in her abdomen, did surgery and took a biopsy, it came back cancer :( I try to give her lots of attention but unfortunately Frank goes out of town so much and I work full-time so when I get home I have to clean up and take care of everyone else and then I try to spend extra time alone with her :(___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] SusieQ
Edna, I apologize for calling SuzieQ Sophia. Hugs to SuzieQ Sharyl From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again REALLY? Y'all think so? I don't think anyone is being mean and hateful, but then again, I tend to see the positive side of most things :) Anywho, I'll ask again DOES anyone have any advice on things I can do to make SuzieQ more comfortable in her last days. She is 2-3 years old, was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing cancer a couple of weeks ago, doctor said she was exposed to FeLuk as a kitten even though she was able to shed the virus but there is nothing we can do because the cancer has already compromised her liver, etc. Anyone have any pearls of wisdom to share ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products
I've been using Revolution on my 13 house rescues for a yr now with no problems. Age ranges from kittens to 19 yr old. I like that there is a size for under 5 lbs for my kittens. It really depends on the cat. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products Definitely; my vet said that cats had convulsions from Revolution – it treats so many things, contains more poisons! From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT. VET AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Deleting posts
I have to agree with Beth. I also delete messages with an OT subject line which lately has been most of the messages. Only reason I checked this one is I thought a member was having problems deleting posts. Sharyl From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deleting posts On 10-05, Beth wrote: It has sadly gotten to the point where I delete 90% of the emails I get from this list without even reading them. I'm sorry you feel this way Beth. I LOVE this group. I'm a member of five yahoo cat groups and this one is my absolute favorite. Lorrie Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! [21.gif] [1]www.Furkids.org __ From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felv positive kitties You are correct, letâs get back on to the subject and help people that need to hear our experiences with this horrible disease. We need to get back on track and help people help their fur babies that they love so much. We know that itâs hard to find a vet that has the knowledge and is willing to help their patients without the first thought of putting them to sleep. We need to keep getting the word out that there is hope for them. They can live long, happy, healthy lives. Please continue to share your stories and experiences of what meds have worked and what has not. We are here for those precious cats that love us unconditionally. They are better than humans. Now back to the subject that matters mosthelping others. From: [2]Elizabeth Malone Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:38 PM To: [3]felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) This list has always been so very helpfulânow it is full of judgmental people that do nothing but bash those with different views. What is happening to this list? If people hunt they are evil. Like it or not many people all over the world huntâthey are all condemned because there are those that hate it. Then the list is now into politics. What happened to helping deliver information about feline leukemia? People that look in to get help see this and leave. It is heartbreaking that this is deteriorating away from what brought all to the list in the first place. __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list [4]Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [5]http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg References 1. http://www.furkids.org/ 2. mailto:malon...@yahoo.com 3. mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 4. mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 5. http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough
Janine, 1st thank you for helping all these cats and kittens in such a responsible manner. Here is the link to a chart I have found very helpful in explaining testing for FeLV http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html As I understand it the IFA test requires the virus to be in the kittens bone marrow which takes time. Sometimes positive test are incorrect perhaps due to the handling of the test. Timing is very important. If left too long before reading they will give a positive result for a negative cat. Hope Bella tests negative next time Sharyl From: janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough Hello, I joined this list years ago, and have now needed to rejoin. Trying to find testing protocol for FeLV and an explanation for it. I am with a rescue grp and we have just started trapping in a colony that had 30 kittens last year and none of them tested pos. We just took 9 kittens within a few days, and are close to having all of the adults neutered. There were a few newcomers - mostly toms. All kittens tested neg until Bella, who tested a weak pos with Elysa sent out to lab. Moms were all mixed up in this colony, everyone taking care of each other's kittens. A 2nd vet did IFA test a few days after Bella's pos results, which I understand is too soon, but having a hard time trying to explain this! My concern is that even if all the kittens tested neg except Bella, that doesn't mean in a few weeks the same kittens would not retest pos. My thinking is that more than one may have been exposed recently enough that the test might not be positive last wk, but may be tomorrow? Another vet thinks I am over thinking/reacting and we should just adopt out the ones that have tested neg right around the same time Bella tested positive. Looking for guidance - Thank you, Janine - Original Message From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 1, 2012 6:15:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough Bow hunting has started in my area and I keep my cats close to hoome. Only Harley goes down the road, so HE stays inside. I keep hearing they are only animals as the excuse. Well, since we are suspossed to be descended from monkeys, we are animals so why can't I shoot them. They are only animals arn't they? Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I am so sorry to hear about the poor cat that was shot with an arrow - this is so typical this time of year when bowhunting begins for deer; dogs and cats are shot all the time.on purpose, because how could one think that a cat is a deer? Could also be some stupid neighborhood kid practicing on small animals! Ted Nugent, the creepy rock star macho moron bowhunter, started his 3-yr old kid practicing bowhunting on small barn animals on his farm.. Even when caught, these creeps get a mere slap on the wrist, if at all! I believe in karma, but it's not soon enough for me - I hope they rot in hell ASPA! Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Conner Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough Friends, We can only do our best everyday to help the victims without voices, either humans or animals. Kevorkian was arrested because it is against the law to end lives. Thanks goodness we can do what we can do, to end the suffering of a companion that is truly suffering (pet). I am a Christian and believe in heaven and hell and Karma. So, until we all die, that person who puts their pet down to travel the world or whatever, is a selfish person to begin with and I am sure it is not the first time that they were disrespectful to life. They will have to be judged and only the Lord will have that talk with them at the end of their life. I live in Florida and just heard about a cat in Riverview that was found (alive) with an arrow in its back! They are trying to find the person who did it. Trust me, I am sure if it was a little child or adult, the FBI would be involved. But because it was a cat, they are doing their best. At the end of every day, everything we do a group has a major impact on saving our furry friends. We can also voice our opinion to the government to change laws. God Bless America. Let's be positive here, we are in America and have the opportunity to change anything in our power as a group. Look in the Middle East, killing everyday! Thank you to all you Vet techs that try to intervene and help out where you can. however, you are right.. it is up to the VET to stand up for the healthy animals that they put to sleep
Re: [Felvtalk] President - OT Topics
I agree with Terri. This list was set up to discuss ill kitties. NOT politics and hunting. There are other groups dedicated to those topics. In the meantime how about helping out Bella. That is what this group is for JMHO Sharyl From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President Sorry Terri I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was just curious I'm so confused on who to vote for, and everyone is saying something different. From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President I think this topic should be off limits here. Terri ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends
Good luck Thank you for what you are trying to do for this kitty Sharyl From: Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends This is a cat that failed in his last attempt to make it to Best Friends because of how poorly he handled transport. He was 1 of 3 cats supposed to be headed out there and they decided they needed to work with a vet to find a better solution for getting him through long travel. The biggest issue is now with all the new travel security requirements he can't just stay in his carrier he must be removed and his carrier xrayed while he comes through the xray with me. They have done tests runs with the sedation and feel it is the best option for us making it through security safely without putting him, myself or security at risk when removing him from the carrier. Other products have not worked with him. He takes a very long time to adjust and warm up (but once he does is said to be a total sweety). Other problem being I do not know nor have I ever met this cat. He will be arriving at my house in a few hours but I am no home and will only have time to meet him for about 10 minutes prior to being out the door again this evening. None of it is the ideal situation however I am his only option to save his life and I do not feel comfortable removing a cat from the carrier unsedated that those who actually know the cat have expressed great concern about the problems I will have with him. I don't think its as simple as minor anxiety or stress for this guy. -- Jamielynn Storch http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
Will keep Barnaby in my prayers Sharyl From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: FeLV Talk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts One of my FeLV foster cats, Barnaby, was adopted last week. His adopters kept him in a bathroom for 2 days (they were told to give him at least 2 weeks to get used to being moved) then let him out in a house. He immediately went in a crawl space in the basement. The space is inaccessible. He has not eaten food that has been left in the ceiling. This is going on a week now he has not had food or water. We are going over tonight to with a snake camera which can see into tight places. We have to decide whether to cut a hole in the side of the house or remove the bathtub. Please don't judge this persons involved. Just please keep him in your thoughts tonight. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts
Thank goodness. Hopefully it is just some dehydration Sharyl From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts After 5 hrs we have him. What an evening! Barnaby is on his way to the emergency vet. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so sorry and admire for your plea of non judgement. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: One of my FeLV foster cats, Barnaby, was adopted last week. His adopters kept him in a bathroom for 2 days (they were told to give him at least 2 weeks to get used to being moved) then let him out in a house. He immediately went in a crawl space in the basement. The space is inaccessible. He has not eaten food that has been left in the ceiling. This is going on a week now he has not had food or water. We are going over tonight to with a snake camera which can see into tight places. We have to decide whether to cut a hole in the side of the house or remove the bathtub. Please don't judge this persons involved. Just please keep him in your thoughts tonight. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet
Came through fine Sharyl From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:56 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet Hey all, Just testing the list since it's been so quiet. Hope this goes through ok. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up
My experience with 10 FeLV kittens is they will do fine for 1-4 yrs before showing signs of illness. My rescue kittens were positive initally and stayed that way. All did fine with s/n - no issues at all. All were active and loving babies. Thank you for saving these babies Sharyl From: Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up You've got it right. I've immersed myself in FELV for the past 2 weeks and feel I've got a pretty good grasp and from what I understand what you stated is correct. Basically I need the snap and IFA test to match..but a positive snap and negative IFA does NOT mean they are in the clear it may just mean it has not spread to the point of testing positive on IFA yet. I need either a matching negative snap and IFA or matching positive snap and IFA. I've really had to educate myself on this bc I've learned the shelter really does not have great knowledge on it and they really tend to group FELV and FIV together a lot. Prior to me doing my own investigating and phone calls I was told a ton of different things from the shelter. As for the mother- these guys were left on someones doorstep with no mom and brought to the shelter. I pulled them as bottlefeeders at about 2 weeks old (uninformed on needing to request a snap test). I had them for 5 weeks not knowing about the FELV...dropped them off for their spays and neuters at 2lbs and got a call that afternoon that 1 in the litter had tested postiive for FELV (they only test 1). They had only tested them bc I checked off a box requesting the snap test (otherwise never would have tested them). When I picked them up I brought them to the clinic and had a 2nd one in the litter tested who also tested positive. A week later I had an appointment with the shelters vet who than snap tested the 3rd kitten in the litter who also tested positive. Now we wait...re-snap..if snap positive we will send out IFA. At this point Im treating them as FELV+ and certainly don't have my hopes up that they are going to be negative. They are not showing any signs or symptoms that I am aware of at this point. They were spayed and neutered that day which now Im hearing mixed things on whether that should have been done or not and that FELV cats can have a difficult recovery. These guys had no problems recovering and have bounced back wonderfully besides 1 of them getting really bad diarrhea for a few days but we discovered roundworms and treated all 3 for that. His diarhea is now gone and he's back to himself. -- Jamielynn Storch http://www.jlynnphotographyonline.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids
Try this link for info on sub q fluid supplies http://www.zzcat.com/CRF/supplies/index.html#Top Sharyl From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids I don't remember offhand, it was over a year ago, but I think I may have gotten the link from the files at the FCRF yahoo group they have to give fluids all the time so some good advice and links on there. you can google it and check prices, you may need a script for the fluids as they want to make sure you are getting the right type of fluid. I always use lactated ringers. Gary -- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids Gary, you say you get fluids, etc from a medical supply house. May I ask their name or will just any supply house do? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS
Anna, what a lovely tribute for Sylvia. You did the right thing for her. She is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels Sharyl From: Anna Waltman anna.walt...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] please add Sylvia to the CLS Dear all, I lost my sweet Sylvia cat this afternoon. Despite our best efforts with daily subcutaneous fluids, appetite stimulants, Interferon, probiotics, vitamins, steroids, and multiple antibiotics, she was still fading fast and appeared to be in a significant amount of pain yesterday. So, with a heavy heart, I took her to the vet one last time this afternoon for a consult. The vet looked over her chart thoroughly, took a close look at her gums and listened to her breath, and said that at this point we'd done all we could do; the anemia was causing her to crash. We agreed, sadly, that it was time to let her go. This was definitely the hardest choice I've ever made; I'm only 25 and Sylvia was my first cat as an adult. We bonded immediately and it has been awful watching her decline over the last month. I'd never been present when an animal has been euthanized before, and I was extremely reluctant to see her go this way. I'd hoped she might pass quietly at home, but she just seemed so uncomfortable that letting her linger struck me as cruel and selfish. I think I made the right choice. She went peacefully, wrapped in a clean blanket in my arms, with no pain. While we waited for the vet, she sat in my lap and purred just like she did as a kitten at her first vet visit. It broke my heart to let her go, even though I know it was the kindest thing I could do. Sylvia was the best cat I've ever had: smart, sweet, devoted, impeccably well-mannered, pleasantly chatty, cuddly. Up until last month, she was fat, sassy, and apart from gingivitis, quite healthy, so I am confident she had a good life. I will miss her terribly. I already do. I'm glad I have my lively little clownish siamese mix, Beatrice (who, as far as I know, is FeLV negative and healthy as a horse) to keep me company. It'll just be the two of us for a little while, so we have time to mourn the loss of a truly great friend, old soul, and gentle spirit. I am so, so sad...but also thankful for four years with a wonderful cat. Some animals make you a better person. I think Sylvia has done that for me, and I will always remember her. Thanks to all of you who have given me advice and support over the last few years. I'm grateful to have had a group of more experienced cat owners to turn to with questions and concerns; you all have been a great source of comfort and information. Best of luck to you and yours in fighting this awful disease. Sadly, Anna (and Beatrice) -- Anna Elisabeth Waltman PhD Candidate // Contemporary American Poetics Department of English and American Literature University of Massachusetts, Amherst ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today
Orlando had 4 wondeful years with you. I truly understand the pain you feel now but don't forget those good years. He will always be in your heaart Sharyl From: Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today It has been one week since I took Orlando to the vets for the last time. His tumor had gotten large enough to be causing him pain and he had stopped eating. He was such a wonderful cat, my loving flame point Siamese boy. The first time I met him in the rescues FeLV room he reached up and gave me a hug. From then on he was my boy and I can't believe he is gone and I will never see him again in this world. He was about 10 when I adopted him and that was four years ago. He would come up and bite me in the butt for attention when I was working on the computer. If I got up at night to go to the bathroom he would accompany me. Always. I guess that was how I knew it was time. On the last night he didn't do that. He will be SO missed. I hate hate hate this disease. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids
Maureen, I use the Terumo UTW 20 gauge needles. UTW = ultra thin wall A UTW 20 will have the same flow rate as those 18 gauge kitty harpoons. I get mine online from Thriving Pets. Sharyl From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 8:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids For you guys that give sub-q fluids - What size needle do you use? A friend showed me how to do it yesterday but she has these huge 18 gauge needles. I'm wondering if I can use a smaller size. It's for my 6 month old kitten so I hate stabbing her with that huge thing. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice It may not be just jaundice, it could be hepatic lipidosis, which is very serious! Blood test is a must, and force feeding, fluids (sub-q), and antibiotics are required! I had a cat last summer that went down to 4.5 lbs, to the point where they wanted to insert a feeding tube through nose or surgically into stomach to which I said no, because I knew that I could force fed her small amounts all day long, and she would have been absolutely miserable with any of the two. I mixed A-D with some hot water and meds, and used a syringe. Within 2 weeks, her values were tremendously improved and she made a complete recovery. Hepatic lipidosis happens mostly to female cats. She was only about 1 ½ - 2 yrs old. She is a very fussy eater, and I have finally found the one and only food that she will eat. BTW, her prognosis was grim, and the vets were really surprised how I got her well in such a short time! The poor girl was through a lot, had a litter in the streets (only 2 survived), and we got her when she was already pregnant with second litter – too late to abort. From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice A friend of mine has two FeLV + cats, littermates about 8 months old, and one has developed jaundice. He has lost a ton of weight also. The last couple of days he doesn't want to eat although he's not laying around or lethargic. Anyone had experience with this? Anything that can be done or is this the end for him? Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice
Food is the cure for FHL. She needs to get some good syringes and start assist feeding both kitties ASAP. Have her blend a jar of meat baby food (no onions or garlic) with a can of kitten food. If she blends it well enough won't have to dilute with water. Has more caloreis than A/D. What counts now is calories. Sharyl From: molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice She took him to the vet. I think it was Friday. He just said it was because of the FeLV. I don't think he recommended anything but maybe because it's a cat in our foster system and he didn't think we would want to spend a lot of money on it. I don't know for sure. The vet did some bloodwork and said his liver levels were elevated. I think the kitty ate over the weekend but the last couple days he stopped. She's been assist feeding him a little. She was at the store in the middle of the night the other night buying him baby food, sardines, tuna and anything else she thought would tempt him. She finally gave up and made him eat some baby food. Oh, he drank a little kitten milk but didn't want it today. I told her to mix a/d with water or chicken broth because that's easy to get down them. The other weird thing is that now his sister won't eat. She's not yellow or anything but last night and today she wouldn't eat but just laid in her litterbox. My friend will be taking her to the vet tomorrow. I'll tell her not to give up on them yet. I'll tell her to make sure the vet gives both of them sub-q fluids. What kind of antibiotics would you suggest? Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Kitty with jaundice Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:54 pm To build on what Natalie has written. Jaundice is a sign of liver issues. Hepatic Lipidosis is cured by food. Please tell your friend to get the kitty to a vet ASAP. Time is of the essence. She can either assist feed with a syringe or get an e-tube to get the calories into the kitty. It takes a real effort to get enought food into the kitty. Many find it easier when using an e-tube. It is not painful for the kitty. Just makes it easier for the caretaker. We say assist feed not force feed. It is a state of mind. You are assisting your cat to eat. Please tell her to join the Feline Assisted Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ They have great files and will offer lots of help. It would be better if you friend joined so she could benefit directly. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger:new kitten
The FeLV vaccine is a non-core vaccine. If the new kitty is going to be an indoor/outdoor kitty then definitely vaccinate. Otherwise it is up to you. Many vets recommend vaccinating kittens. Sharyl From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger:new kitten Should we inoculate the new kitty against feline leukemia? Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger
Marinda, each of us has to decide when we are ready for a new kitty. I've never had just one kitty and have found great comfort from the others when one has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Check with your local shelter and rescue groups. Saving a kitty would be a wonderful tribute to ginger Sharyl From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger It's been a few weeks since we lost our ginger kitty. I am still so sad about my darling! Do you think I should get another kitty so soon after his death? I feel I would kind of betray my Ginger kitty. Could you please advice me what to do? Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Preston
Natalie, I was saddened to read Preston has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. You did everything you could to help him. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. Sharyl From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Quigley I lost another one today – I am totally drained. Preston, who was blind and declawed, found abandoned in September in a rural area in CT, has been with us all this time, looking for a home. He finally had a home to go to tomorrow. I had been treating him for CRF and while I was giving him fluids last night, I noticed that he breathed in an odd way…I thought that I heard a sort-of rattling in his lungs when I carried him. He always purred and made cookies (happy feet) on his beloved fleece blanket…I decided to get him checked out one more time before he was to leave tomorrow. X-rays were taken – huge mass in his lungs, fluids drained were yellow and red, and he started fading fast. We rushed back to the hospital, and held him while he was euthanized….Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:37 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Quigley rocking with you and your beloveds. thank you for being here with us. what a family we have - - here and beyond. thank you for your faithfull-ness purrs rubs cz Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 15:55:50 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( Sherry, So sorry about S’Matter. I lost a cat yesterday, had to have Quigley euthanized. NOT from FeLV, but to a very severe kidney infection – he was over 16 yrs old, grey with the most amazing emerald green eyes (left on our doorstep in a carrier years ago). Natalie From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( I am sorry for your loss :( Date : Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :( This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter :( Sherry ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links
I know others have also responded Natalie about TNR. TNR is one of the best ways of fighting the spread of FeLV. In my experience a positive momma will have positive kittens. Fix the momma and you stop the spread of the disease in a feral colony. I also do TNR and manage 2 feral colonies. The adult males and females are released back after recovery from their surgeries. Males 1 day and females 3-4 days as long as they are doing OK. The kittens I tame and try to adopt out. The only way to combat PETA is to responsibly manage these feral/hard stray colonies. My oldest feral is a 7+ year old male who is only happy outside in his colony. We can't take all these feral/hard strays in but we can give them a healthy, stress free life in their colonies once they have been spayed/neutered. At least that way the population is controlled. The real problem is feeders who do not TNR. That's how these feral/hard stray colonies get out of control. Managing these colonies means responsible s/n, feeding and medical treatment when needed. JMHO Sharyl From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links I know many people who do TNR and have dedicated volunteers taking care of them, even trapping for vet visits. Personally, I don’t like some of the ways that TNR cats are provided or NOT provided for. Some groups spay cats and release them almost immediately, even in freezing weather (when it is a known fact that healing is seriously hindered) , and such consequences as infections, and even disembowelment due to ruptures. Yes, one should expect cats at such a ranch to be provided with medical care! I can’t even imagine how many people are required to seriously care for 700 cats! Natalie___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR
I am looking forward to hearing how this projects goes. What you have been able to accomplish in Albuquerque is amazing. This next step will be watched by rescue groups across the country. Keep up the good work Sharyl From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR We here in Albuquerque, just signed a contract with Best Friends to do very agressive TNR project and the city is receiving 1 million dollars from Best Friends in an effort. Any healthy cats (tame or feral) who are trapped and brought over to the shelters are going to be spayed/neutered and returned to where they come from - the idea is to create NO KILL city. We are already very agressive about TNR effort working with the city, but this will allow us to go to the next step. I personally don't believe in testing cats for Felk/FIV - the idea is population control by spay/neuter - we simplay put them back where they come from. Also audlts cats are more resistent in getting transmitted the virus evey by sharing food/water bowls - this is a finding from my personal experience -___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My Siggie
Terri, I was saddened to read that Siggie has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You gave him the greatest gift you could - freedom from pain and suffering. He is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels. I know my orange boy, Albert, will show him around.You are in my thoughts and prayersSharylFrom: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com To: RQP resqp...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Persian_Rescue persian_res...@yahoogroups.com; FLUTD listserv fl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] My Siggie Photo E-mail View slideshow | Download images Hello everyone, Some of you have known me for a while -- others not. Just writing to let you all know my healthy, non-FeLV cat Siggie has left me for the Rainbow Bridge. He was the last of my original group who did NOT have FeLV. He was my FeLV+ Salome's companion up until she passed in 2005 (right after I adopted Travis from Res-Q-Pets). He was fine all day yesterday. Then suddenly, he couldn't walk or breathe. He was wheezing terribly, and was dragging his hind quarters behind him, soiling himself. I rushed him to the local vet, who told me that he had fluid all in and around his lungs, was at end stage cardiac failure and had threw a clot, which is what paralyzed him. The kindest thing I could do for him was to let them put him down -- but he ended up not needing the help. They gave him a sedative, and before they injected the final shot of the pink stuff, he was gone. Rest in peace and sleep well, my big orange boy. Meowmy and Daddy will miss you forever. May 2000 - Feb 15, 2012 =^..^= Terri,Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and8 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire=^..^= These photos will be available on SkyDrive for 30 days. To learn more about SkyDrive, click here.To share high quality pictures with your friends and family using MSN Photo E-mail, join MSN. ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
This is true for FIV. There is no FIP vaccine. There is no test for FIP. Sharyl - Original Message - From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if given the vaccination.. This is too important not to mention L - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions There is no reliable test for FIP. Your cat tested positive for corona virus. Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill. FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it. FIP is not rare but it's definitely not very prevalent. I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona virus. He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to contract. He was also a street cat, in poor health in general. Lee From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions YES! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :( Details: Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like. Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't think it is related. Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year. If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions: Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here? Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years. Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home? Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' lives with a reasonable quality? Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message. Vicky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
It's www.felineCRF.org Has everything you need to know. Was a life saver for me Sharyl From: Val Green harpestry...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holly -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My heart is broken
Marinda, we all understand how devastated you are. I've lost 10 FeLV + kitties. All I can recommend is to feed the best food you can, give lots of love, watch for other illnesses and treat them immediately. There is no cure. Many including myself have tried various supplements. I can't say they helped. Hugs to your ginger darling Sharyl - Original Message - From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My heart is broken My darling ginger cat has been diagnosed with feline leukemia. I am devastated because the vet says that there is nothing he can do to help us. We try our uttermost best to feed our cat but don't know what to do to help our darling. Is there some kind of medication that we could recommend to our vet? Could someone PLEASE help us to get through this traumatic experience? We live in South Africa and don't know where to get help. Please help us! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grace Please add to the CLS :( Missy please add to the CLS :(
Gentle passing to both of these lovely girls Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:06 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Grace Please add to the CLS :( Missy please add to the CLS :( This week has been a sad day the last 2 days for us Sids volunteers and Dr. Jen. First of all beautiful dilute tortie Gracewhat can I say about our wonderful girl? She was one of Dr. Jens favorite Sids kids...a couple years back Grace had a bout with VERY high fevers and we almost lost her then...but she did not give up and with Jens help we were able to love her for 3 years. One of the most gentle soft and kind cats to honor us with her love and to let us love herlove you amazing Grace Then poor little old Missy,we didn't have long to love her,but she was tiny little orange girl with a BIG purrsonalitywhat a sad week it has been already... :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in or near California want a very sociable companion for their FeLV+ cat?
You know you can get your cat vaccinated and keep her yourself don't you. I mixed all my FeLV + kittens with my adult vaccinated cats. Sharyl From: Shanda Robertson sha...@well.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:09 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone in or near California want a very sociable companion for their FeLV+ cat? Hi, I am new to this list. I've just found out that a stray cat I've been looking after is FeLV+. She is an adorable, petite young female (1-2 years old) that I've named Munchkin who is spayed, and otherwise healthy. The most special thing about her is that she LOVES other cats. She chases after them and tries to play with them, and jumps up onto window ledges wherever she sees a cat sitting in a window. When I let her into my home, she ran straight to my sleeping cat and snuggled in next to him. I don't think she would be immediately friendly to other people since it took her awhile to trust me, but she now purrs and sleeps in my lap. She would make a wonderful companion for another FeLV+ cat. I cannot keep her because my cat is FeLV-negative and unvaccinated. I am lucky to have found a cat rescue to take her in on Monday, but she will be confined separate from other cats, and this makes me sad for her. Is there anyone who wants her? I'm in the Bay Area, California, and could drive her to you. Either before or after Monday (I'm sure I could get her back from her new lodgings, but would rather not put her through more than one move). Photo: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X7B3nd6Gu9s200H2ZhwuVgm3R7luXUf2QgPNd57qIVM?feat=directlink She is very cute! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in or near California want a very sociable companion for their FeLV+ cat?
Shanda, You might want to read this link http://www.reference.com/browse/lymphoid+system Explains FeLV in plain english and answers many of your questions Sharyl From: Shanda Robertson sha...@well.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in or near California want a very sociable companion for their FeLV+ cat? Thank you everyone for your replies. I had this set on digest so I didn't see them. I am just learning about FeLV, and I have heard everything from a cat can catch it from walking across a surface a positive cat touched days ago, to it being very difficult to transmit even with direct contact. My first concern is to protect my existing cat. 2 different vets advised me against vaccinating him for FeLV because of sarcoma risk (he is an indoor cat). I'm considering it anyway but haven't made a decision. One vet told me that the PureVax non-adjuvanted vaccine was no better in preventing sarcoma. I'm considering getting my cat vaccinated anyway but haven't made a decision. Keeping them separated inside my small home is not possible. Ideally I'd like to find somewhere for this stray kitty with an enclosed outdoor area because she's apparently used to being an indoor/outdoor cat. I think she'd do ok indoors as long as she had other cats for company.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charleston, SC
Melinda. So glad you will be heading back to the States soon. I'm in VA so can't help with local vets. Hopefully there are members how can male recommendations so VooDoo can continue the treatments that have worked so well for Fiji. Sharyl From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Charleston, SC Hello all, OK, it is official. My family will be arriving in Charleston, SC in June. I can't wait to be back in the good, ole USA! However, I will miss my Japanese vet so much. I am hoping someone on here knows of a good vet there. I've been given some links to look for a vet, but personal recommendations are always welcome:) Also, I saw that there is a no kill cat shelter close by and I am anxious to check it out. For all of you in rescue, you have motivated me to be a part of the solution. I hope the shelter there is a positive place and I can be a part. I have tried to make a difference here in a very small community with few strays/abandoned kitties, but am unable to have a permanent impact. Somehow, I have been lucky enough to be blessed with two FeLV kitties with lymphoma. Both were found as stray kittens here in Japan and both seem to be fighting the disease quite well. Fuji (2.5years) will be ending her treatments here and hopefully stay in remission. VooDoo (1.5years) has only had three treatments and will need to continue once we get home. I am a member of a yahoo group that deals with lymphoma and the success/health of these babies seems to be quite unusual. Makes me wonder if they really have lymphoma! For those new members, I know that my kitties are somewhat anomalies. However, I hope that it gives you comfort knowing that there is always hope! Thanks for all the support during our time here in Japan. Melinda, Fuji, and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests
I don't know if you would call it a false negative. It is possible for a cat to be so recently exposed to the FeLV virus that it will not show up on the test. That's why many recommend retesting a few weeks later. Sharyl From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests Are these normally just inaccurate as far as false positives go? Are there ever any false negatives? Sent from my iPhone___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV
Just saw this article. Treatment for feline leukemia virus http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/2012/01/treatment-for-feline-leukemia-virus.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation+%28Cat+Health+News+from+the+Winn+Feline+Foundation%29 Feline leukemia virus is a retrovirus of cats that can cause cancer, anemia and immunosuppression. Currently, no effective treatment for FeLV infection exists. These researchers investigated the usefulness of an anti-retroviral drug called raltegrevir that was developed for treatment of HIV in humans. The researchers tested the drug in a laboratory setting for potential toxicity to feline cells, as well as the ability to inhibit the replication of FeLV in these cells. It was found that, at least in cell culture, this drug inhibited virus replication and did not cause toxic changes to the feline cells. The researchers speculate that this drug could be used to reduce virus replication in FeLV-infected cats to the point that their own immune system could eliminate the virus, effectively curing the infection. Many more studies are needed, but this research offers a promising first step. [MK] Will be something we will definitely want to follow Sharyl___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats
This is another case where you need to dig deeper and not believe the cover story. Google the org. mentioned. Here is the link to the Feline Practioners Vaccine Guidelines. http://www.catvets.com/uploads/PDF/2006_Vaccination_Guidelines_JAVMA.pdf They actually recommend giving all kittens the FeLV vaccine after 1st testing them. Sorry you stumbled across such mis-informtaion Sharyl From: Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats I don't have enough authority/knowlegde to say I disagree with the last statement cats over the age of 16 wks are virtually inmune to FeLV..I'd say I wished, because I have seen cats older than 3 yrs to get infected. Whether it was the cat was sick and wasn't obvious even to an ELISA(wich I had been told it can give false FIV results but is accurate on FeLV) I don't know. Being on the rescue adopt out position, I've to get my adoptables tested and vaccinated. It'd be wonderful if everybody would know the facts Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Fri, 11/18/11, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] testing cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 18, 2011, 6:27 PM As I continue to try to learn as much as possible about this illness and testing the kitten I found, I came across this post on the Best Friends site questioning the testing process. I was wondering if anyone had any comments on its contents?Thanks http://network.bestfriends.org/groups/smitten_by_kittens/pages/feline-leukemia-testing-why-are-you-wasting-your-money.aspx -Inline Attachment Follows- ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats
As has already been posted, the FeLV vaccine does not affect future test results. If a cat received the FIV vaccine it will test positive for FIV on all future FIV tests. Getting the FeLV vaccine won't hurt your cat other than the slight risk associated with cancer at the vaccine site. No idea why your vet went ahead with the vaccination before getting the test results. The in house test only takes 10 minutes. Sharyl From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] testing cats to Sheryl: I can't figure out how to reply to your msg but in that doc you linked to, is this the most current protocol? If I understand correctly, it says that you don't vaccinate until you get test results. well, my vet thinking the cat was healthy, went ahead and vaccinated, even after I asked if we should wait for the results. so how does this affect this cat including future testing? I read somewhere that the vaccination can result in the cat testing positive but i can't sort out what is current and what is not. I can't believe a vet would be so careless to recommend testing and then go ahead and vaccinate before getting the test results if it affected future test results or the health of the cat . I really appreicate anyone who can add to this discussion, either based on info you found , your vets info or your actual experience. I am not feeling too comfortable now about having this kitten already vaccinated before the positive results were known. From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:27 PM Subject: testing cats As I continue to try to learn as much as possible about this illness and testing the kitten I found, I came across this post on the Best Friends site questioning the testing process. I was wondering if anyone had any comments on its contents?Thanks http://network.bestfriends.org/groups/smitten_by_kittens/pages/feline-leukemia-testing-why-are-you-wasting-your-money.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] please add tigger to list
I am saddened to read your little Tigger has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You were blessed to have him for almost 5 yrs. Sharyl From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:01 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] please add tigger to list I lost my little Tigger today, 1 month short of his 5th birthday. FeLV+ since birth. God speed, lil Tigger ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
It really depends on your cat's life style. It is an indoor/outdoor kitty. If so then definitely get the FeLV vaccine. Despite Lee's experience I would not hesitate to use the FeLV vaccine if the kitty is indoor/outdoor, if you foster kitties for a rescue, if you plan on bringing a FeLV kitty into your home. Over the years I have rescued 10 FeLV kittens. All became indoor only kitties and were mixed with my negative cats. All my negative cats were adults and I kept them current on their FeLV vaccine. Like others I do not believe in unnecessary vaccines. Sharyl From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv. Several people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of the infection but these cats were not ever outside the house. They were not exposed to any other cats. They may have had the disorder lurking in their bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they may have gotten it from the vaccine. In addition, there's the danger of vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. Most of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 years. Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that they will not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats to adoption. FVRCP is required for that. Of course, the rabies vaccine is required by law in most States but other than that, I feel that veterinarians push vaccines for cats for all the wrong reasons. Lee ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] lizardmarsh.net
Crystal and Kathy, I believe Kathy has the tests turned around. Here is a link to a charting explaining what steps should be taken based on the various test results. http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html There is a chance to get a false positive with the ELISA test especially the new 3 way ELISA. Sharyl. From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: ccarlsb...@gmail.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] lizardmarsh.net Hi Crystal,You've already given him the ELISA done in the lab (not the SNAP, which is done at the vet's)? It's hard to tell from what you wrote. A negative lab ELISA would prove Felv negative. Note that a negative IFA would not prove anything, as it's skewed towards false negatives. Alternately, a positive IFA would prove positivity.Anyone on the Felv list have any ideas about finding this guy a foster or home? Kathy On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:31 AM, lizardmarsh lizardma...@gmail.com wrote: Los Angeles: SOS. Anakin is a Kitten from East Valley who tested + for FeLV---Needs NEXT FOSTER OR FOREVER ASAP!!! Posted: 26 Sep 2011 10:36 AM PDT Crystal gave permission to crosspost her urgent plea for little guy Please contact Crystal at ccarlsb...@gmail.com (gmail.com) to apply to foster or adopt Anakin. The current foster home needs to give him to the next foster or adopter WEDNESDAY (9/28/11)! Please network. Thank you! Anakin needs a foster or adopter right away On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Crystal C. Beecher ccarlsb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for inquiring about the little black kitten, Anakin. The original email I circulated seems to have been edited and all of his information is not included. This is his story: Anakin was adopted from the East Valley Animal shelter, whom fixed and microchipped him. He was then immediately brought to my vet who SNAP tested him and dewormed him. She determined he was barely 10 weeks old, where at the shelter they said 14 weeks. The next day his ELISA test was positive and he had a URI, which was causing him to sneeze. I have 2 other cats so I kept them isolated and this further stressed Anakin, to the point where we had to relocate him to a foster without other cats. We IFA tested him 1 week later and he was FELV positive. Since we are unsure of his age, we agreed to have him retested at minimum 6 weeks later. I arranged a foster for him, who no tells me she will no longer house him after Thursday. We have many people who 'want' him if his next SNAP and IFA test come back negative. If they are positive, we have no home for him lined up yet and this is the predicament. If he can be the only cat in a home, he should be fine, even if he is FELV positive. He is pretty healthy other than a virus/cold that causes him to sneeze. Vet thinks he should grow out of it (2 rounds of clavamox did not help, so its not bacterial), as he is growing tremendously already and has TONS of energy, per the foster. His coat looks great and his temperament is exquisite. He even gets along with small dogs. So if you can help find him a forever home, regardless of his FELV status, that would be ideal. Otherwise, if you can or you can help find hi a foster in the meantime, this is equally beneficial. Thank you for caring and feel free to contact me with any questions. -- Crystal Carlsberg Beecher B.A., Womens Studies, UCLA M.A., Education with emphasis in Gender Studies, LMU (818) 633-2416 ~ People spend a lifetime searching for happiness; looking for peace. They chase idle dreams, addictions, religions, even other people, hoping to fill the emptiness that plagues them. The irony is the only place they ever needed to search was within. -Ramona Anderson -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Miller
I was saddened to read that Miller has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You did what you could for Miller. He is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels. Sharyl From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins. I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment center. He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms. I knew then that it was time to let him go. Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over. We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in our hearts. I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, I shall hear music but none as sweet as the song with which you loved me, I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. Sleep soft, dear Miller. . . 1999-2011 Edna, Frank and the Nuisance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today
I was saddened to read that BreAnne has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. I'll light a candle for her. Sharyl From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] BreAnne left today hopefully to meet ToriRose and Isaac at the Bridge. The local vet's euthanisia was really ugly. It happens. ( I thought it would be easier for her rather than riding for 45 minutes). The local vet was no stranger to her. She had had fluids the previous 3 Saturdays. Our usual vet was not able to give her as much fluids Saturday because of her breathing. I came home and let her out and she disappeared into the woods, coming back when it got dark. I put her on the patio to rest Sunday morning. She lay there awhile and left and again returned in the darkness as I trusted she would though I began calling her in midafternoon. Mama (no relation to her) washed her last night. Physically, it was time. You had counseled me that I would know. Some of you know a rough translation of a Rumi poem Whoever brought me to the tavern will have to take me home. BreAnne was an alpha female - - just over 2 years old. Her playmate ToriRose left in February 2010. Isaac left in February 2011. She got really thin last fall and then rebounded. You helped me with her this spring when she quit eating and then decided to eat only Fancy Feast beef. She rebounded in July. will leave it there. Remaining positives are Mama and Luscious and Shallie Jean and Hope. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Shakespeare ( Shakesy) Please add to the CLS :*(
I was saddened to read that Shakesy has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He was loved and had a wonderful forever home with Julie. Seems like too many kitties have crossed the bridge lately. I'll light a candle for Shakesy tonight. Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Shakespeare ( Shakesy) Please add to the CLS :*( This world lost another wonderful boy yesterday...Shakesy was a former Sids kid that won me ove with not only his beauty but his purrsonality as well. This beautiful fluffy black and white boy would sit in front of me and I would talk to him in a soft voice...Shakesy,Shakesy,Skakesy...he would slowly tilt his head...then slowly reach out his beautiful paw and touch me softly...ok tears are flowing now...that was our special bond. He got adopted by Julie a wonderful cat mom and gave him a chance at a real home. He will be missed so very much. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch
Marcia, I was saddened to read that Fletch has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. You gave him a loving home for his short little life. For our FeLV that is the best we can do. Sharyl From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 12:26 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch Hi everyone Very sad night, fletch got really bad, started crying and having a hard time breathing. I called the vet and asked that he be put to sleep. Well, we didn't make it, Fletch died on the way there. I feel so bad that he had to suffer like that. But he no longer will. He was just a few weeks over a year old. He was loved so very much during his short life. Thanks for all your help Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hemy has a home
Bonnie, I was saddened to read that your Aunt has passed. At least she was at peace knowing her cats were safe with you. You have done a great job with Hemy. She has definitely found her new forever home. Sharyl From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Hemy has a home Just an update on that little “feral” cat I took from my dear aunt’s house…. After going to Forgotten Felines for spay (already spayed), partial tail amputation and general health check, “Hemy” lived in a pen on my deck for nearly a month. I would get my upper body in the pen and we would have a ‘love fest’ of petting, purring, head-butting and cuddling. Clearly: not a feral cat. So I left the pen door open yesterday. She sniffed all around the yard, circled several times, returned to the pen to eat and sleep in her favorite bed. I called FF about finding her a home, but I think this is her home, and I’m her person. I love this little cat. I suspect she has some health issues, but I’m delighted to give her a home and in return have her friendship. By the way, my dear aunt passed away on Aug. 24. I visited her the evening before and she said then the same thing she said every time I saw her: “I’m so GLAD you have the cats.” Then she’d ask about them and I’d tell her how each one was doing and how wonderful they are. It was obviously important to her that her animals were being cared for, and I think the fact that it was me (‘in the family’ and a known cat lover) helped. I’m happy that my taking her cats made her happy and gave her a little peace in her time of transition. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI
Marcia, check that baby aspirin dose again with your vet. I've never heard of giving more than 1/2 a baby aspirin ever 72 hrs. Here is a link to more info on aspirin http://www.marvistavet.com/html/aspirin.html Sharyl From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. Thanks you guys for listening(-: Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. Gloria On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: Marcia, Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so sorry he is such bad shape!! In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor little guy to suffer. Hugs~ Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Hi everyone I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the experts? (all of you)(-: Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote: Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. Thanks Kat On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a distributor in Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. From: drsiebl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last few weeks of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have lived a bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: www.tcyte.com - if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the vet. I was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is possible to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The other up-side to this medication
Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm so sorry to read that Zombo has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He sounds like a very special guy. At least he was loved and well cared for. Lighting a special candle for Zombo Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:07 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :( Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY can take??? Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you handsome orange and white baby boy Sherry PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight :) I love them ALL so much We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bocce' Please Add to the CLS :(
Sherry, you all have really had a tough week. I'll also light a candle for handsome Bocce. Go in peace sweet one. Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bocce' Please Add to the CLS :( What an awful week it has been...lost too many Sids kids and several Crash cats. :( Bocce' was one of the dirtiest handsome boys we took into Sids. Even after Dr. Jen gave him 2 baths before he came to Sids. But once the dirt wore off,the most beautiful handsome guy was under all that dirt.Sweet as can be too. I will miss you Bocce ball :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS
Esther, I was saddened to read that Xana has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. At least she was loved and cared for for 3 years. She is now with all our angels. Sharyl From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:56 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the last two weeks. Nothing could help her. She has not reached 3 years. -- Esther = ^..^ = adopta a Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%20Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Turner and Studley Do Right Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I was saddened to read that Turner and Studley has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. They were loved and well cared for and that's wht counts. Sharyl. From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Turner and Studley Do Right Please add to the CLS :( We lost 2 more of our Sids kids today Turner was one of my rescues from off the awful streets of Grand Rapids,He was sweet handsome buff and white boy that cooed like a pidgeon when you scratched his back. Studley was a sweet gray and white boy,he LOVED everyone and let them know it !!! Rest in peace you sweet fur angels. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats
What a great tribute to your wonderful husband. You were fortunate to have found each other and share your love for God's creatures. Sharyl From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats LOLI had to respond to this as well. In the early years my late husband was a dog man and tolerated cats. Within 2 years I converted him into a cat man. Don't get me wrong he still loved dogs but like cats better because they were more personable. We are dog owners too. Over the course of years he had a few personal kitties. One is still with me. He is a 14 year old Balinese named Vinnie. When my husband became ill I took Vinnie to the skilled nursing facility to visit my late husband before he died. Vinnie also knew when he died too. Which spooked me sort of. Vinnie was sleeping then all the sudden woke up, started meowing, paced the floor a bit then went back to sleep. Within minutes the facility called me and told me my husband had passed away at 4:30 am (03/31/2011). So I know animals have some sort of connection with us humans when they are close like these two. When I got to the facility and told my daughter this she said she isn't surprised by this. Vinnie and my late husband were very close like 2 peas in a pod. My husband always called him his buddy and partner. He had also said over the course of the years he wanted to come back as one of my cats because they were spoiled and taken care of if it is possible. Whether they were rescues or personal kitties. I do know he said he couldn't wait to see the original Taz that had passed back in 2002. Very few men would tolerate or care for the animals I had in rescue over the years. He would care for cats and kittens like feeding, doing litter boxes, medicate if needed, would clean up hair balls. The one thing that would cracked me up is if a cat/kitten puked he would let me know and ask me to look at it or inspect to make sure it was okay. This was to make sure it was normal looking. The one thing he couldn't deal with was blood from animals. Humans he didn't care except for his loved ones. He had a great love for animals especially for those that couldn't fend for themselves. My husband was a one of a kind man and missed greatly by us. Thanks for reading felt I needed to let others know from my end. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter
I was saddened to read that little Dexter has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He was a brave warrior in his battle against FeLV. You both did everything you could to help Dexter in this battle. He is now healthy and chasing butterflies. I'll light a candle for Dexter tonight. Sharyl From: Ben Williams drsiebl...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter I'd like to start off this message by thanking all of you for your kind words regarding Dexter over the past few days - - my wife and I have shared and appreciated every one of the emails - it's meant a lot to us. Unfortunately, this morning has proven to be heartbreaking to us both - we received a call first thing this morning from East Dallas Animal Clinic's Dr. Ken Cantrell that Dexter's condition had worsened over the course of the night. After picking Dex up from the Emergency clinic yesterday morning, we immediately took him to Dr. Wright at Lakewood Vet Center. Dr. Wright has been on vacation since last week and we were told that he would be back yesterday morning - but he hadn't yet returned. I took Dexter to see him on three occasions last week for his lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator injections, but was only able to see him that Monday. When we took Dex in on Friday when the swelling of his feet and face had begun, we were given no advice by his staff who were unable to do anything other than give Dex his shot and usher us out the door. They are all very caring people and I don't blame them for anything, but I feel that any vet who runs a practice where he is the only doctor on staff, should do a bit more to keep his patients informed about his availability - that way precious minutes or hours or days aren't wasted waiting for him to return. Fortunately, several weeks ago, when trying to convince Dr. Wright to order the LTCI treatment (which took him over a week to do) I was referred to the East Dallas Animal Clinic by the LTCI folks - they had used the medication before. East Dallas Animal Clinic is a wonderful place. We've worked with Dr. Ellsworth and Dr. Cantrell there - - they are both compassionate and make a point of taking calls from concerned pet owners. They have both been wonderful to work with and have been open to taking every conceivable avenue with Dex's treatment. I only wish we had been seeing them from the start. We rushed Dex to them yesterday morning as soon as it became clear that Dr. Wright wouldn't be returning. Again, I don't blame Dr. Wright, but when we took Dexter in for his checkup three weeks ago and Dr. Wright informed us that anemia had set in, his advice was to take him home and make him comfortable. A week passed as I researched and tried to communicate with him about alternate treatments and off-label meds. When you factor in that week and the week he took to order the LTCI meds, that's two out of the last three weeks where Dex had little treatment. Again, why the difficulty in getting anything done for Dex? East Dallas, however, fit Dex in on the first day we spoke with him and started him on Acemannan injections. They had two remaining doses remaining of that drug; a drug that was very beneficial to Dex last year when he was first diagnosed. they sacrificed those 2 doses for Dex without question - had I gone to them earlier, perhaps it would have had more effect on him. Regardless, Dex seemed to make improvements while on Immunoregulin, LCTI and the acemannan. FeLV and FIV are horrible diseases, though, and I felt like there was something always sneaking up on Dex while we treated him. We seemed to reverse the anemia, but his Lymph nodes were swelling. Some days they would go down, other days, they would blow up. When the mystery feet and face swelling started last week, he even responded well with benadryl. That thing sneaking up on Dexter? Full blown cancer - it wasn't just in his lymph nodes, it was in his liver and spleen - it had probably made his heart swell. His breathing was becoming more and more labored and we struggled with the decision of when Dexter was in too much pain to continue. Yesterday, Dr. Cantrell started chemotherapy on Dex, as well as steroids. He seemed to tolerate the meds well, but over the course of the night, he became more jaundiced and vomited, while his body temperature dropped to 94 degrees. His little body had given out as this terrible disease had taken almost everything from him. I say almost everything, because when we arrived at East Dallas Animal Clinic this morning, even though he was being hand fed oxygen while under a warming pad, little Dexter still had a playful wag of the tail when we placed our hands on him and told him how much we love him. Dexter died at 8 this morning. We are heartbroken that our sweet boy is gone and that he was only with us for a year and a half. He was such a wonderful, sweet and special kitty - we will miss him terribly. He
Re: [Felvtalk] Plato Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, sorry Plato has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. So glad he was loved and cared for. So many aren't. Laura, I understand how you feel. Over 4 years I lost 10 FeLV rescues. Mattie, my little blind girl, hit me the hardest. She was the bravest and sweetest little girl. After the last positive died I found a kitten at the dumpster colony I TNR and feed. Angel was negative and got me into kitten rescue. In the end I kept Angel and have fostered several more kittens. I know as long as I am fostering kittens I can not take in any FeLV cats. Fostering the kittens has helped accept the loss of the positives. Maybe I'll be able to take in positives again but for now the kittens need me. We all help out however we can. Lighting a candle for all the babies tonight. Sharyl From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plato Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry, I have lost Mimi, Holly and Roosevelt within the past month. I am at the point where I really don't want to take in any more positives, I have told people not to ask me anymore, I can't do it. --- On Mon, 6/27/11, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Plato Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 10:17 PM Another one of our wonderful Sids kids became an angel today. Plato was a laid back sweet gray striped boy who loved to be loved. We will miss you handsome boy :( Sherry ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bitty
MaxCat would need to be blenderized with a liquid to be syringe-able. You may also need to strain it 1st but the added calories is worth the effort. For more info you could join the Yahoo Assist Feeding group. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ Sharyl From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bitty Yes, but is it a soft canned food (like pudding, cat's usually love it) that she could syringe into his mouth if he won't eat? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home
Great ending Melinda. Miracles do happen. So glad VooDoo is home again safe and sound. Sharyl From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:52 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] VooDoo's Home OK, so who says miracles and divine intervention do not exist? After a couple of hours in the very hot sun, I found evidence that maybe VooDoo was alive and close by. Then, I discovered that the police now have a NO trapping policy. I went to my Japanese vet to see if he could find a trap. He was going to call the city on Monday. So, back to being a little stressed, feeling as though my best hope was gone. A couple of hours later, a very short, but really hard rain came and I was once again concerned because I thought he was hiding in a drain pipe. As soon as the rain ended, I went to the back door and called out asking him to come home. What do you know, he answered me with his crazy, whiny cry. After a few minutes of trying to coax him into the house, I decided that he was either trapped or hurt. I called to him and he continued to call back. Once I located him hiding under a tree, I belly crawled on the wet ground to where he was. I reached under, in the dark, expecting the worst. However, he let me grab him and pull him out. So, 48 hours after going missing, my baby is home safe and sound. We will be watching closely for sniffles and signs of fever! Thank you all for your advice and positive vibes. I truly believe that they worked. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] VooDoo is missing
Melinda, I am so sorry VooDoo has gotten outside. This web site has some great tips on how to find a lost cat. http://www.catsinthebag.org/ You've received some good advise. Good luck. We'll keep our paws crossed for you and VooDoo. Sharyl From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:53 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] VooDoo is missing Hello all, It is with a very heavy heart that I am asking for some positive energy from this group! My son's friend left a door open last night and my little VooDoo escaped. He is terrified of being outdoors and all attempts to capture him only scared him more! We live on a military base and there are no wild animals to worry about and the speed limit on base is extremely slow. My greatest concern is that around 2:00am, he tried to come home and we absolutely scared him to death trying to get him to bring him inside. (He hasn't been out since he came to us as a five week old kitten) I'm worried that he might be afraid to come home. It breaks my heart to think of my little kissing bandit, hungry, scared and alone. He doesn't tolerate dry food well and I know some of the residents where I suspect he is hiding puts it out for the few strays. This is such a heavy burden for me and I am not taking it very well. Please just send your positive thoughts our way. Thanks for listening. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
Cathy, you have already gotten some good advise. I've rescued several FeLV kittens and treasured the time I had with them. They enjoyed 1 to 4+ years of being pampered and loved. I mixed my positives and negatives but my negatives were all adult cats and current on their FeLV vaccine. You can do so much to make whatever time Cali has a joy to both of you. I would get Sasha tested and vaccinated if she hasn't been already. I am disturbed that Petco is adopting out kittens that have not been tested for FeLV or FIV. I also do TNR and rescue kittens. I test all the rescued kittens before offering them for adoption. Give Cali a hug from me. Sharyl From: ckess...@cox.net ckess...@cox.net To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten I am new the site and I am just crushed. I have never had cats before and I adopted a shelter kitten from Petco in Plano, Texas. She had Ringworm to start with and she was tiny, but she was playful and is as sweet as can be. We live in Downtown Dallas so she sits in the window of our high-rise and overlooks the skyline. Last week, she became very lethargic and on Friday, I became worried so I took her to the emergency room. She's always been little, but playful and happy until last week. They did a Feline Leukemia test and it was positive. The only thing I had ever heard about Feline Leukemia before Friday night was that all cats who get it - die. Cali is only 7 months old and I can't stop crying. I just moved to Dallas last July. I have always had Dachshunds but I didn't think that dogs should be in apartments, so I got Cali. Then I didn't want Cali to be by herself, so I got another shelter kitty from the Petco in Bedford, (named Sasha) and she is very healthy. The emergency room vet and the Vet that I took Cali to have both told me that I need to put Cali to sleep so that Sasha won't get sick and Cali won't get better so she should be put down. For all of you out there, please say a prayer for me and Cali. She is a Blue Cream Tabby, she weighs 5 pounds and she has been a real fighter. I don't know how I will find the strength to put her to sleep. She is so little. I want her to get better. I can't stop crying. Cathy Kessel (858) 361-8972 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bee Please add to te CLS :*(
Sherry, I will light a candle for Miss Bee. What a wonderful spirit she must have had. She had 6 years of love and care. I'll hug all my babies tonight in her memory. Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:59 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Bee Please add to te CLS :*( Another one of our Sids kids left us today. Bee was with us for longer than I have been volunteering. She hung in here for almost 6 years. She is with her mama Jewel now. Bee was our drama queen kitty,ALWAYS had something to say...what a sad,sad,sad day :( Everyone hug your babies, Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Aggie to the CLS
Andy, I was saddened to read that Aggie has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. The time we are allowed to spend with these babies is so precious. Thank you for caring for her. I will light a candle for Aggie tonight. Sharyl From: Andy Domek oxjake...@hotmail.com To: FELV List felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Aggie to the CLS Hi all, I know I haven't posted in awhile, but I wanted to offer an update to those of you who followed our story with our little bundle of spunk, Aggie. We helped Aggie cross over this morning, and it was one of the hardest things I've had to do. It was also the right thing to do. Her anemia caused her to gasp for air since yesterday evening, and she was starting to involuntarily shake, could no longer walk, make it to the litter box, and could barely raise her head to watch the lizards running around our patio. She was my little valiant fighter for 7 years, but ultimately FELV took her from me. We tried everything short of a transfusion, and it just wasn't enough. I firmly believe that LTCI bought us about a year of good quality time. Her bloodwork was taking a VERY marked decline last June, and LTCI reversed it. Unfortunately, FELV is a tough nut to crack and there was only so much we could do. It was very peaceful, she just went to sleep while we sang her song to her , and told her what a blessing she has been in our life. If love could heal, she'd have been the healthiest cat ever. But right now, she's not in any pain, no more seizures, no more force feeding, no more shots, and only peace. There is a void in my home, and my heart right now. But I am so, so thankful to have had her at all. I didn't even like cats before I met her, and now I'm a sucker for them! Thank you for your advice, your collective knowledge, and more importantly, for the kindness you show to everyone who is dealing with this nasty disease. Peace to all of you, and good luck on your journeys with your beloved fuzzbuckets. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] UK vet meds (Sharyl)
I doubt it. If you read the info it is for up to 5 lb. Check out the Stronghold. It is for cats 5-15 lbs. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] UK vet meds (Sharyl) Their Revolution says it is for kittens and puppies. Would this dose be ok for adult cats? Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Sharyl, Thanks so much for this site. I ordered two 12 packs of their Revolution called Stronghold in the UK and also two 12 packs of Frontline Plus called Frontline Combo in the UK. I got 48 pipettes for less than half of what it would cost in the USA. Lorrie On 06-03, Sharyl wrote: I buy mine on line from vetmeds4pets. An UK company that sells Frontline Combo which is exactly the same as Frontline Plus just the European version. Shipping is a flat $4.08. You can get a 12 pack for cats for $64.08. http://www.vetmeds4pets.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=17products_id=150osCsid=1d74d06c5731f73aa7a9a85ef391d33d For those that use Revolution they have the Stronghold, the UK version. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
That's what I have always been told. Let a bite wound bleed freely for as long as possible to wash out the bacteria. Bacteria from a FeLV kitty is no different than from any other cat. They all can lead to a bad infection. Let it bleed, wash with soap and hot water, rinse with hydrogen peroxide, soak i Epsom salts added to hot water and watch for signs of infection. I've had many that have healed just fine and a few that required an antibiotic. Sharyl From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite I believe it also helps to make the wound bleed some before you start treating it with Neosporin or whatever. I think the idea is to get at least some of the bad bugs out of it that way. Then, of course, a thorough, thorough washing and the antibiotic cream. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 3:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite This is the first bite I have had that concerned me...most have been nips with broken skin but nothing deep. However, I wash them to death and keep a very close eye on them. It is part of the feral world. However, anything on a thin skin area, hands, face, feet, gets special attention. On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Edna Taylor wrote: Lynda, Yes, it is usually a very deep bite to require medical treatment. When Pootie bit me (don't know why, he was sleeping and it was about 3 am) he bit clear through to the muscle of my forearm. I couldn't even move my hand all day :( Edna Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:05:43 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Wow! Reading all of these messages with bad experience with cat bites, I consider myself VERY lucky. I've gotten bit a lot, but it sounds like it has to be a deep puncture type bite. Is this correct? I'm glad that you have shared your experiences. I bet most of us now won't mess around if we get bit. I know I won't! Jannes - what have you done so far? How are you feeling? Let us hear from you soon :0) I'm hoping you have a good outcome! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite OMG - when I got bit a couple months ago I just ran inside and washed it out really good with soap and water. That was it. Guess I was lucky. I had read that soap and water are good enough as long as you wash it good so now when I get scratched I just use soap and water. Anyway, I never went to the doc until three weeks later for something else. That's when I talked to him about it and he fussed at me. Guess I'll be more careful next time. Yikes! I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark Twain From: sea7...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:43:40 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite Wash the wound with antibiotic soap and keep antibiotic ointment on it. Also treat with hot compresses. It will draw white blood cells to the area. The Dr told me to do this. Autumn bit the fire out of me when I was 6 months pregnant. My hand swelled up and was red and sore. I never developed streaks, but went to Urgent Care for antibiotics. Make sure you eat your yogurt, if you get them. They are STRONG. FELV + have filthy mouths:-/ I also urge you not to tell them that it was your cat. Just emphasize that said cat had it's rabies shot. ~Susan A Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: Last night I had Amber in my lap upstairs. I am trying to get her use to seeing the other cats and use to the upstairs life. I had the IFA test performed by another vet and will hear from it next week. I am being optimistic so I wanted to get a head start on getting her acclamated. My youngest cat Moses decided to suddenly jump in my lap with her and Amber freaked out! In the process of holding on to her she bit me very hard on my hand. It hurt so bad and still does. It is red and slightly swollen. My husband thinks I am being paranoid about it, but I had a friend who almost lost his arm due to infection from a cat bite. Should I visit the doctor?? Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
I buy mine on line from vetmeds4pets. An UK company that sells Frontline Combo which is exactly the same as Frontline Plus just the European version. Shipping is a flat $4.08. You can get a 12 pack for cats for $64.08. http://www.vetmeds4pets.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=17products_id=150osCsid=1d74d06c5731f73aa7a9a85ef391d33d I buy the large dog version, put it in a small jar any syringe out the amount I need for each cat. Same ingredients just a little less of one in the dog version vs the cat. Like you I have too many cats to use the stuff you can buy in the stores here. For those that use Revolution they have the Stronghold, the UK version. Sharyl From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Re: My original post on Pet Armor. I found it in Wal-mart yesterday, but I didn't buy it because I wasn't sure about it. It claims to be exactly like Frontline, and the ingrediants listed were the same, but I didn't think it was cheaper than Frontline I can buy from Canada Vet Meds online. In Wal-mart Pet Armor was $28.99 for 3 pipettes. With 15 cats I need a better price. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor
Onions can cause heinz bodies anemia in most cats. Some feel that garlic can do the same thing but it is not as certain as onions are. Sharyl From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor I have always heard that garlic ad onionsare deah to cats. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats - a whole list of things Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for dogs and cats. www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html Brewer's Yeast and Garlic Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs Cats) experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when the cat's health is good. Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea protection or flea control for your cat. Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning combing cats to get rid of fleas they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please let me know. Lorrie
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
That is why it is so important to do your own research. I look up each product on line and compare the ingredients just to verify the formula is the same. Some are not and are indeed harmful to cats. I would look up the ingredients for Pet Armor and compare them to Frontline Plus just to be sure. Sharyl From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy Angel Jackpot ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Clarfing FIV Vax Re: FeLV vaccine
There is a FIV vax. The issue is any cat who the FIV vaccine will show up positive on any future FIV/FeLV ELISHA test. Any cat who gets the FIV vax should also be microchipped so the owners can clarify the cat is NOT FIV positive just vaccinated. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols
Sara, a teen Mom really isn't considered an older kitty. I'd assume both the Momma and kitten are positive until you get a negative test. The FeLV+ kittens I have rescued were all healthy and thriving until the leukemia raised it's ugly head when they were about a yr old. Even though I hate to use weak and strong testing results, I'd have to say mine were all strong positives on all their tests. Good luck Sharyl From: M C mliciou...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:22 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols We have a teen Mom kitty who tested weak positive on the felv/fiv snap test 1 month after she was rescued. She had 3 kittens on a cold day out in the open before we found her. 1 kitten died the first day b/c she wasn't keeping him warm, 2nd one died within a week (Mom rejected we tried to BF but he faded), 3rd kitten survived conjunctivits, and is small but growing daily and eating really well. Since she tested weak positive, should we rest on the ELISA (sent to lab) test to make sure she even has it? We need to know b/c her surviving kitten may or may not have FeLV, depending on whether this is a false positive or if she's fighting off the infection from past exposure The kitten is only 6 weeks old, and we heard testing him now won't mean anything, so we'd have to start testing him in 1 month, then again after that IF the Mom is indeed felv positive. We're just not sure if we should assume he is felv positive b/c of the Mom's snap test result, which I know is notoriously faulty, esp. on older kitties like this. Thanks in advance, Sara ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Posey Please add to the CLS :(
Volunteers are a blessing. Thankfully Posey was loved and cared for at Camp Feleuk. We will keep Lilac in our prayers. Give all the volunteers a hug from us. Sharyl From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Posey Please add to the CLS :( Posey was a SWEET beautiful calico that was a lovable beast. She got a VERY short chance at a real home with one of our men volunteers.He calls his house Camp Feleuk. Bless his heart for taking in our precious Sids kids...please keep Poseys sister Lilac in your prayers too.She is not doing the greateast.She too is a Camp Feleuk. All these wonderful babies having their lives cut way too short just breaks my heart. :( Bless you all and thank you for being my support in my time of need. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found
I don't know what to tell you. I have always given my negative cats the FeLV vaccine. I mixed my positives and negatives but did not worry since the negatives were adults and vaccinated. I understand that no vaccine is a 100% guarantee but it is better than doing nothing. Many adult cats have developed an natural immunity. We each do what we think is best for our cats. Sharyl From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found I found this link from Cornell University. Cornell states that previously it was thought that FeLV could only live minutes to a couple hours outside the host (cat) on surfaces such as glass, carpets, etc. Now from studies it can last DAYS TO WEEKS! 2008 is the most recent publication I found regarding how long FeLV can survive outside the host. This concens me greatly since I just lost a kitten to FeLV in March and still have an unprotected cat that may contract it. So my surviving cat was still getting exposed possibly weeks after my kitten had died? How frightening! Please give me your thoughts. Here is the link: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc//news/docs/FLVirus.pdf - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Sorry, I don't think the link will work. I am in the process of trying something else. Jannes From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 11:15:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. div style=width:480px;text-align:right;embed width=480 height=360 src=http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf; flashvars=rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found
Go to the link and read the entire study. At the very end they are comparing the human AIDS virus to the feline FeLV virus. I have not heard of anyone getting AIDs without direct bodily contact or via blood. Not saying its bad science. Just don't think we need to over-react to this study. Sharyl From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found That really IS scaryit's amazing how opinions about something change...I also thought that it was a mere few minutes -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New Info found I found this link from Cornell University. Cornell states that previously it was thought that FeLV could only live minutes to a couple hours outside the host (cat) on surfaces such as glass, carpets, etc. Now from studies it can last DAYS TO WEEKS! 2008 is the most recent publication I found regarding how long FeLV can survive outside the host. This concens me greatly since I just lost a kitten to FeLV in March and still have an unprotected cat that may contract it. So my surviving cat was still getting exposed possibly weeks after my kitten had died? How frightening! Please give me your thoughts. Here is the link: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc//news/docs/FLVirus.pdf - Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Sorry, I don't think the link will work. I am in the process of trying something else. Jannes From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 11:15:43 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. div style=width:480px;text-align:right;embed width=480 height=360 src=http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf; flashvars=rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Unfortunately you are right Michael. Love and attention are the best meds. We need to focus on today with these special babies and make each the best day they can have. Sharyl --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 3:28 PM First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jakob Please ad to the CLS :(
I have a soft spot in my heart for orange boys. Go in peace Jacob. At least he was loved for a while. Sharyl --- On Sat, 4/23/11, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Jakob Please ad to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 10:30 PM We lost our sweet Sids kid Jakob a beautiful orange boy who always had a worried look on his face. We will miss you but was happy for the short time we had to love you. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chanel has crossed the Rainbow Bridge
Marnie, I was saddened to read that Chanel has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. She was a great foster Mom to those kittens. She was loved and that is what counts. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I'll light a candle for her tonight. Sharyl --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Marnie Miszewski marni...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Marnie Miszewski marni...@embarqmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Chanel has crossed the Rainbow Bridge To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 2:40 AM I wish it were only us humans that were going to miss Chanel. She was a beautiful solid white little princess that came to my rescue from Animal Services because she was FELV+. She spent a few days as the only cat in her room before 5 tiny new black and white additions arrived. They were only 9 weeks and scared to be in a new place. Miss Chanel didn't hesitate to take over mommy duties immediately. She would let them crawl on her and chirp to them when they were getting in trouble. Those kittens loved her perhaps more than I did. When I arrived on Monday and found her she was still not alone. Her little friends were snuggled up to her as if to keep her warm. It tore my heart out to take her away. I miss her terribly but the fun loving kitten room just isn't the same. I'm hoping she's watching over them from wherever she is and when it's their turn, I know they will be together again! Marnie Helping Paws Animal Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(
Dearest Terrie, I was saddened to read that your friend, supporter and husband has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Taz and all your Angels were there waiting for him. It is so hard to lose a loved one even when they are so ill. In time your memories of the wonderful time you had together will help. I will light a candle for all of you tonight. You are in my thoughts and prayers Sharyl --- On Sat, 4/2/11, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:27 AM Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in rescue. My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by my Taz as he loved him too. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS
Alice, You and your dear husband tried so hard to save these babies. I was saddened to read that Rosie has joined Murphy and her brothers at the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. You gave Rosie the greatest gift you could - her freedom from suffering. We all understand the pain you are feeling. Rosie is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels. You both are in my thoughts and prayers. Sharyl --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Folktale] Please add Rosie to CLS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 11:09 PM Rosie passed last night, I could not bear to watch her wasting away. The Lymphoma had beat her. We had her on Pred and Lutheran-which shrank the mass near her throat the first week, then it came back with a vengeance the next week. We increased it to every other day on the Leukeran to no avail. She was also on Lasix, Lysine, iron, b vitamins, Interferon. She always came into the kitchen and waited for me to give her the meds, but the last few days she began to clamp her jaw, like enough. She was being syringe fed, she couldn't eat-the mass in her neck got so large and hard. Her eyes became empty and she just wanted to hide, she was miserable. When I came home from work last night, I knew it was time. Thank you to the wonderful vets and staff at Sacramento Cat Hospital for staying late so we could help Rosie join her man, Murphy at the bridge-he passed in October from Lymphoma and anemia. Rosie is our 6th and last FeLV kitty-her 4 brothers passed in their first year from anemia, despite all our efforts. I have never felt so defeated and empty in my life. I did not have a clue about FeLV when we rescued the feral babies. It has been a long and sad 2 years, Rosie and Murphy each just made it to 2 1/2 yrs old. Bless all of you fighting this battle-it is a long, and difficult journey, but these babies deserve all the love in the world. Alice with Miso and Sachi-the 2 negatives we adopted when Rosie got so depressed when she was left alone after Murphy passed. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.
Dearest Terrie, I was saddened to read of your dear husbands illness. Of course you need to be with him at this difficult time. As someone who will turn 64 this year, I agree he far too young to be facing this. You both are in my thoughts and prayers Sharyl --- On Mon, 3/28/11, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 9:09 PM Hi all, I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's illness. He has liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed into a skill nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to the hospital. He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped working. Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he wants for comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again. I want to make myself available at all times for him. He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old but it isn't really. Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of this. Hospice is available to me 24 hours a day. Sincerely, Terrie TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
