Re: [Felvtalk] Suzy's Zoo in SC

2014-01-05 Thread Heather
Thank you Susan! And Lorrie. They have taken a few cats from our local shelter, 
and I know some who are taking one there tomorrow. A close friend has one 
pending retest this week who will otherwise be euthanized and we've since heard 
Suzy's will take, so I will pass this on. Susan, if you know where I can find 
direct feedback can you let me know, so I may share with those sending or 
considering sending cats there? I understand if you can't or don't have this 
information. Thanks so much for your input!!

Heather

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On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Susan Saunders a4kat...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I checked into last summer - got good and not so good comments so I passed on 
 them
 
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 On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
 Never heard of it and I've been researching sanctuarys for years.
 Do they have a website?  Make sure they are legitimate and also
 charge at least $1,000 UP  (mostly up) per cat as the ones who 
 charge to little for the lifetime care of a cat will usually end
 up with too many cats and get shut down.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 01-04, Heather wrote:
 Hello, wondering if anyone has been to or has experience with this 
 sanctuary? A friend may contact them about a kitty she rescued.
 
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[Felvtalk] Suzy's Zoo in SC

2014-01-04 Thread Heather
Hello, wondering if anyone has been to or has experience with this sanctuary? A 
friend may contact them about a kitty she rescued. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread Heather
Hideyo Yamomoto (unsure on last name/spelling) who used to be on this list as 
well as others, might be a good person to ask about this. 

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On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:17 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several years 
 when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with me. At 
 the time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and would send 
 it to each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat now who 
 appears to have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs pointing 
 there). The only hope of helping that is feline interferon omega given in 
 combination with steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able to get it 
 quickly. Does anyone have it who might be willing to sell me a few doses to 
 get him started while I try to get it? Or to do an exchange like we used to 
 do, sending me a few doses while I order and then I send it back? 
  
 Michelle L.
 NJ (used to be MA)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Heather
I think there can be a variety of causes.  Some of the ones of concern, I
think, are high blood pressure, tumor, and toxoplasmosis possibly.  We had
a 14 year old feral FIV+ kitty who had an eye issue like this and my vet
felt it was a tumor, we then found out she had CRF and toxoplasmosis (vet
didn't feel eye related to toxo) and she was treated for just under a year,
sucessfully, for all until a urinary issue took her quality of life.  At
first I'd been so scared of an eye tumor, but the eye was never a problem
again.  I've had other feral cats with uneven pupils where it never seemed
to be a problem.

Good luck


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be
 caused by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-:

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 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his
 usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how
 urgent it is.


 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He
 had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had
 some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up
 on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite

2013-12-18 Thread Heather
I researched it before and read no on oregano oil. The phenols in essential 
oils can not be processed by the feline liver. Lym dyp is safe and effective. 

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 Can oregano oil be used on cats?  A friend has two kittens with awful 
 ringworm.  So far Program and Vetericyn haven't done much.  (Gave her some 
 Vibactra Plus tonite to try boosting the kittens' immune system.)
 
 
 
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  Yes, I'm actually more into natural and homeopathic then conventional 
  medicine.
 
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  On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Dec 17, 2013 12:04 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Bite
 
  I am leary of drs. who want to see/know about herbs, etc. as they might 
  report you for practicing medicine without a license.
 
Unless one is charging for services, simply suggesting or selling a 
  legal product probably presents no legal issue. I've had mixed results 
  with alternative therapies, but don't hesitate to try them, after 
  considerable research. It's probably best to tell your Allopath about 
  anything you're taking, no matter how safe, as some herbal remedies and 
  products can significantly affect physiology. Which means they work :)
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Capstar / Topical Flea Control

2013-11-27 Thread Heather
If they have a lot of fleas, I've never attributed that to anything more
than that, the fleas are all running around on them dying so they get
itchy/scratchy/crazed for a bit.  Not sure if this is the same as what your
friend is describing but I can see how someone might describe what we've
seen that way--though I'd say an hour, not hours.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I've never had problems with Capstar until I gave it to one of my older
 cats recently. She ran around like a cat possessed for hours. A friend said
 her dog had the same reaction. Has anyone else had this happen?

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 I have no idea of the safety, but you might want to look into the newer
 topicals such as Activyl and Simpleguard as it seems Rev/Adv/Frontline
 aren't as effective as they used to be, for many of us anyway.  Program is
 said to be very safe, as it Capstar (not a preventative) so there might be
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Re: [Felvtalk] Topical Flea Control

2013-11-26 Thread Heather
I have no idea of the safety, but you might want to look into the newer
topicals such as Activyl and Simpleguard as it seems Rev/Adv/Frontline
aren't as effective as they used to be, for many of us anyway.  Program is
said to be very safe, as it Capstar (not a preventative) so there might be
combinations you could use to try and gently but effectively treat 
prevent.


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 I am having a crazy hard time keeping fleas off of my FeLV foster. I do
 flea comb at least once a day and keep everything very clean but they won't
 go away. I hate the thought of putting a topical on her because her nodes
 are huge and her immune sytem is already compromised but I know these fleas
 are no good either. I have no idea how they can still be on her because I
 have been so aggressive.

 Has anyone researched topicals for + cats? Like are there any that are
 'safer' than others? I was thinking of trying Revolution on herthat way
 it it will keep away fleas, ticks, earmites, etc. Thoughts? She is 7 months
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Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums

2013-10-29 Thread Heather
Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near
death.  I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap.  FELV+
cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and
think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice.

Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed
quickly.


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 Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite problem
 - pale gums.

 One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little
 skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I
 checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings
 (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting
 wet and dry food.

 I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet.
 Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than
 usual.

 Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] Pale gums

2013-10-29 Thread Heather
Yes, definitely.  I would get him in asap (today).  This is a worry with
any kitty and especially felv+ kitties.  Last time someone told me their
cat was eating litter, he died soon after even though they got him to the
vet (probably needed a transfusion which I don't think they tried).

Again not to scare you but given pale gums + eating litter, would rather
err to the side of caution and say get him in asap as that's definitely
worriesome.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. After doing few searches on the listserv archive and reading past
 posts I wanted to add that I also have found him a couple of times recently
 eating litter (the kind he was eating was Worlds Best Cat Litter made from
 corn, but he also uses clay litter) and he has a tendency to lick the
 shower drain after my shower. Seems like those could also be symptoms of
 anemia..missing a mineral or something.


 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pale gums can indicate anemia, if gums are white they are usually near
 death.  I'd get the kitty's PCV (packed cell volume) checked asap.  FELV+
 cats are particularly prone to anemia, I don't have any FELV+ cats and
 think sometimes it is non-regenerative but some here might have some advice.

 Not to scare you, but anemia is something that needs to be addressed
 quickly.


 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just saw Avaykn's email as I was writing this. I have the opposite
 problem - pale gums.

 One of my positive kittens Terence has started looking/feeling a little
 skinny and his usually short sleek fur has a more raggedy look to it. I
 checked his gums this morning and they were pale compared to his 3 siblings
 (who are also positive). He is 6 months old. They are on lysine and getting
 wet and dry food.

 I'm going to try adding fortiflora and get some lixotinic from the vet.
 Appetite seems normal, he's still active/playful but perhaps less so than
 usual.

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[Felvtalk] Los Angeles - Good vet for very sick FIV+ kitty needed!!!

2013-10-29 Thread Heather
I am in Tampa and a friend who adopted a very special FIV+ kitty from us 2
years ago is afraid she is losing him, tests are showing nothing and she is
having a terrible time with the vets.  Can anyone recommend a good vet for
a very sick FIV+ kitty in the Los Angeles area?

His main symptom is just extreme weight loss and constant vomiting.  B/w,
xray and ultrasounds have been unremarkable--I have warned her about HL and
the need to force feed.

Thank you for any suggestions!!

Heather
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Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

2013-08-31 Thread Heather
How does a human use Genetian violet for RW, internally or topically?

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 I'm on Digest version of this list, and it's not easy to reply... but I 
 learned about Gentian Violet when I was a kid, and it worked great for 
 ringworm - mine was on my hand.  I've since used it on cats when appropriate 
 and it worked.  I generally use Golden Seal tincture (from the health food 
 store, about $8), as it works well and isn't purple.  But have used Malaseb 
 shampoo and it worked well. I don't use Grisiofulvin since it's systemic, 
 unless it's a bad case of ringworm - has a Persian like that so did use the 
 Grisiofulvin.
 
 I read up on Advantage Multi a while back, and didn't like some of the 
 reports of it - so I never use Advantage Multi.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Gloria
 
 
 
 From: Catherine Chang changic...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
 
 
 
 Hi felv friends, 
 
 
 I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether bathing 
 options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If they been 
 mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are: 
 
 I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just bathing 
 the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week.  
 
 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat ringworm 
 very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 
 2. Nizoral Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with 
 Ketoconazole. The 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although 
 taking Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is 
 less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is also a 
 pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a prescription 
 to get that. 
 
 hope it helps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm

2013-08-23 Thread Heather
The oral meds can be very hard on the liver, I believe Itraconazole
(sporanox) is considered the safest, griseofulvin and ketoconzole can be
dangerous, Griseofulvin should not be used in FIV+ cats (one of the main
people on the former Ringworm group lost his FIV+ kitty that way), and my
understanding is that Ketoconazole shouldn't be used in cats.  Personally I
would not use either, but if oral meds seem necessary would stick to
Itraconazole.

Just a two cents, I'm not a vet but know many here are already dealing with
challenged kitties so wanted to mention :-)


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 As long as it works, that is what is important.  I know this is a bit
 late, but been busy taking care of Lil Bit, giving fluids, meds and syringe
 feeding.  All to no avail, she passed last Friday.
 When I was a child, I got ringworm and my doctor (an old vet who went to
 Vienna and trained for people meds) used gentian violet on my head.  It was
 purple, but got rid of the ringworm.  Ever since then, the hair on that
 part of my head is curlier and thicker.

  Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote:
  When we took in a cat with ringworm, the first vet prescribed an
 expensive oral medication (something like Griseofluvin). We sought the
 advice of a different vet who gave the cat a shot of antibiotics and
 recommended we use lime sulfur dips. It took a while, but it did clear up.
 The dips are messy and stinky, but effective.
 
  Good luck.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
I can sure empathize with your friend, my bf and I care for over 20
colonies.  The rescue bills over the years have taken any credit we can
find, we have no money for a home (health/dental etc) for ourselves, and
our daily lives completely hinge on the weather and our colonies, not to
mention work, TNR and the tons of rescue that goes with all of this.  We
just this week had a litter of kittens dumped at one of our spots (an
obvious dumping as opposed to wandered up kittens--all the cats are
fixed) with one kitten needing a blood transfusion, and already had several
kittens in rescue.

So I can absolutely relate...I'm not familliar with any Texas groups other
than ShadowCats, but hope perhaps there is a group that gets damaged goods
from grocery stores that could help with food?  We used to get that though
haven't in about a year, it was through a rescue group so I can't offer any
pointers on how to find that but it's certainly worth inquiring with any
group she can find.

If they have good low-cost TNR clinics there, she should check with them
and any shelters that support TNR and might have a food bank.  Our Humane
Society has a food bank for needy people with pets and will allow
caretakers in need to draw upon this a bit, if they have sufficient stock.

If I think of any ideas I will post, please let your friend know there are
others out there in similar dire straits--not much consolation, I know!

Thank you for trying to help her, I hope support is found.

Heather

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 This is probably not allowed on this list but I can't just stand by and
 see my friend Karen suffer. She has been feeding about 16 outdoor colonies.
 She watches over the health and welfare of these cats as if they were her
 own house cats. Recently, she has had a really bad run of luck. She rescued
 a cat who needed over $1,000 dollars in eye surgery. i have him now and the
 surgery saved his one remaining eye. Otherwise, he would have been a
 totally blind cat. She also rescued a cat who was bone thin and  combo
 tested positive for both FIV and FeLv cat. She spent several hundred
 dollars curing him of mange and anemia. I fostered the cat and he turned
 negative for FeLv. He's now in my FIV room with 4 other FIV+ cats. Karen
 has rescued and found homes for over a hundred hard case cats, including 3
 FeLv+ cats who did not turn. One of them is still alive and enjoying life
 as a healthy pampered puss with a lovely lady. The cat is over  6 years old
 now. Karen works an 8 hour a day job. The trouble is that she spends all
 her pay on feeding the colony cats and her three remaining indoor cats. She
 has spent over $1,000 for a cat she rescued and took into her own house and
 who after a year, developed a malignant tumor in her ear canal. The cat
 lived with it for several months, on medication and vitamins until she
 passed away suddenly one afternoon. And now, another disaster has hit my
 friend. He car died. She has been relying on friends and neighbors to get
 her to work but she is struggling with the cat colony feeding and is
 running out of money to feed them and even to buy her own food. She needs
 help and there is very little available in San Antonio where we both live.
 I am almost at the poverty level myself, with an online job that pays
 sporadically and two other jobs which are exhausting because they involve a
 lot of driving and delivering so I can't help Karen financially. I have
 over 3 dozen cats of my own to deal with. Karen spends more than $70 a week
 every week. At that rate she will never be able to replace her car, even
 with a junker.  Is there any help out there for Karen before she goes
 under? I was thinking that if people could donate pet food gift cards to
 her that would help alleviate some of the expense of feeding the colonies.
 One person has already done this by calling Petsmart and purchasing a gift
 card over the phone with his credit card. He then notified Karen that he
 had done this and the next time she went to the store, they told her she
 had a gift card credit. I think that all pet food stores have this system
 now. Anyway, if you are able to help, even a few dollars would be a
 blessing. I'm sorry to bother the list with this problem as we are all
 struggling with vet bills for our special needs cats but I am watching my
 friend get more and more depressed and desperate every day and I can't just
 stand by and do nothing. Lots of cats are depending on her for their very
 lives. Thanks for reading this long post. Contact me off list if you can
 help.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
I understand all too well.  I've been having great difficulty feeling very
alone in the daily commitment, let alone the financial side.

Is there a paypal address that can be shared publicly (like on facebook)
for donations?  It might help a little if there were a 501(c)3 rescue who
will allow donations to be sent to them, noted for Karen's work, that will
then purchase food for her (since people are often more inclined to donate
to 501(c)3.

If there is further contact info that can be shared on fb, let me know and
I will.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, Karen and I have both worked on this
 problem, I on the computer and Karen asking friends, rescuers and others
 for some help, mostly to no avail. The TNR group here is San Antonio Feral
 Cat Coalition. They do not have a shelter situation so get very little cat
 food donations. They have already contributed to her as much as they can
 but as I said, she has to feed these cats every day. She is getting free
 TNR certificates from Animal Care Services which is out local
 kill-everything shelter but the city came on board with kicking and
 screaming when we were trying to force the TNR idea into the animal laws.
 They finally accepted it when public opinion soared in favor and the local
 newspaper printed several articles in support and against what was taking
 place at the kill shelter (gas chamber). But that still leaves Karen
 without a car and without money to buy one if she doesn't get some
 donations to help with the cat food. It's not organizations I'm asking now,
 it's just individuals who can spare a few dollars to call in to Petsmart,
 Pet Supplies Plus and Petco to get her gift cards on file so she can
 purchase the cat food with at least a little help. She also has rent and
 utilities to pay, which is sucking money out of her paycheck and she is not
 eligible for any steady help from anywhere else because she has a job.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to
her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB.  I can also
post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she
doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and
someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think
is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there
and contribute online before they forget).

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and
 looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is
 single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and
 out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I
 am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental
 work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who
 actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone
 help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store?
 That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down
 payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies
 every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the
 transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the
 windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the
 transmission went belly up.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

2013-08-08 Thread Heather
Yes, I'm not a big fan of fb either but am active on there for animal
purposes and it does seem to be the best way to find help these days.

Send me the info  I will share it, if you can send any pics of the cats
(of course that won't disclose her feeding location), I can post with a pic
in hopes that  might help:)

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Great idea! I have a PayPal account which I need because I work from
 online in several different types of jobs and companies (independent
 contractor) so be sure to earmark it for Community Cats. That way I will be
 able to give her whatever donations come in. If you could post on Facebook,
 that would be even more of a help. My Facebook page is under my online name
 at a company I have been working for over 10 years and I'm not allowed to
 use it for private purposes. I don't have a FB page of my own. Facebook
 Phobia? Thanks again. I will get the info together and send it to you at
 your private email address.



 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:15 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer

 If there is a paypal address that donations may be made to and passed to
 her, let me know and I will try to do some networking on FB.  I can also
 post a physical address that checks or gift cards can be mailed to if she
 doesn't mind that being out there (would need her full name, address, and
 someone's Paypal address for the first idea I mentioned, which I do think
 is most likely to draw contributions since then people can stop right there
 and contribute online before they forget).

 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one) and
 looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is
 single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and
 out to get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I
 am regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental
 work. So there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who
 actually are doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone
 help Karen with a donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store?
 That way she could save some of her hard earned money to make a down
 payment on something that she can drive to work and to her cat colonies
 every day, like she used to. She had just paid off the car she had when the
 transmission cracked. She didn't have air conditioning either and the
 windows stopped functioning. Needed another car even before the
 transmission went belly up.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] A Tribute to Polli

2013-07-06 Thread Heather
Amanda,

Thank you for sharing this beautiful tribute to sweet Polli (there was a
character in the old cartoon Underdog named Sweet Polly).

I am so, so sorry your time with her was so short, thank you for making her
life so wonderful and full of love.

There really aren't words to express my sadness for you, but I will
remember Polli's story and will think of her often, what a very special
girl she obviously was.

My heart goes out to you at this very sad time.

Heather in Tampa

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.comwrote:

 It was just another hot August morning when our upstairs neighbors
 frantically called my boyfriend.  He went out to see what was wrong and
 came back, worried.  He told me I needed to come check something out.
 Concerned, I went into the foyer and frantically running around and mewing
 was a tiny gray and white kitten with huge white paws.


 That was the morning we first met Polli.  She was dirty, blanketed with
 fleas and had a terrible URI that had glued her little eyes shut.  Our
 neighbors couldn’t keep her due to a cat-aggressive dog and my boyfriend
 wasn’t a pet person who was absolutely against us having another cat.
 However, we live in a city with high kill shelters and there was no way
 this little cat would make it out alive.  Without a second thought, I
 rushed her into our home and called the local vet.  I promised my guy that
 once she recovered, I would find a new home for her.  Who knew that within
 those two weeks it took for her to become healthy and strong that she would
 have also stolen our hearts, officially making my boyfriend a “cat
 person.”  Or as he would say, “a Polli person.”


 Since August of 2012, we have been the lucky guardians of this sweet girl.
 Polli, named for her polydactyl paws and the gray dot on her pink nose that
 reminded us of the dot on a lower-case ‘i’, was like no other cat I have
 known.  As a friend once said, she has the sweetest soul of any creature he
 has ever met.  She rushed to greet whomever came to our home, spent
 countless hours sprawled out across my boyfriend’s chest and would wake me
 at 6:30 every morning by sweetly meeping at our bedroom door, waiting to
 come in to lay in my arms and chew on my hair before falling back asleep.


 Since her diagnosis in March, the little cat we love slowly faded. Even
 though the vet gave her just two weeks, she fought on for close to four
 months, earning her the nickname, “Tiny Brawler”.  During those months, we
 let our hearts spill forth and gave her so much love and affection. Windows
 were left open for her to rest in, plates full of treats and wet food were
 always present and not a day went by that we didn’t kiss her little head
 and tell her what a wonderful cat she was. Her strong will to live and give
 love was no match for the terrible ways FeLV ravaged her body.  We wanted
 her to leave this earth knowing love and comfort and assisted her passing
 this afternoon.  Her spirit left this earth as her body laid in one of her
 favorite spots in our kitchen with both my guy and I petting and kissing
 her.


 Her life, though short, was filled with love, a full belly and warm home
 that will feel empty without her.  To my sweet Polli, may your spirit soar
 high with birds and find its place at the Rainbow Bridge. You will be
 forever missed and loved by so many people, especially Austin and I.

 -Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-09 Thread Heather
Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you.  My Shiiva (not felv+) is just
turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal
cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we
initially nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is
very little data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully
treated.

A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have
helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots  fluids
weekly.  There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group
called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see
it available now, though there is another product:
http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients

We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish  Shrimp feast
and add it to other foods to make them extra tasty.

Best wishes,

Heather

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki
 Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her
 a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of
 food as she'll eat.

  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
 wrote:

   Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Heather
This just happened not far from us, our cat community is very upset and the
person removed the tip of the arrow to avoid identification.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/19661631/2012/09/27/cat-shot-with-arrow-recovering#.UGWrSCitdWc.facebook

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Bow hunting is CRUEL. It often leaves the poor animal in agony and it dies
 a
 slow painful death.  We had a buck dying in our yard last winter, and we
 had
 to call for someone to put it out of it's misery.  It was horrible and I
 was
 upset for weeks. I still can't stand to think about it.

 Hunters don't kill only for food. They also take the very best bucks who
 should be left to reproduce. I am so sick of hearing jerks say they are
 killing deer to keep them from starving.  BS. They kill for fun!

 On 10-02, Joslin Potter wrote:
 I agree with you, but what would happen if we didn't have a hunting
 season, do you think they would not still reproduce like they do now?
 To each their own, again, I'm just thankful for the life of a deer,
 and
 the people who do purchase linceses as this money is put back into the
 wild life. The funding from licenses and tags is used to insure a
 healthy population of wildlife in the states, including the DNR to
 enforce the rules... I take it you don't eat meat Natalie?

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Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight

2012-08-27 Thread Heather
Hi,

My bf and I feed around 140 cats in 20+ spots (colonies) each day.  Unless
they are adoptable and you find homes, or work with a rescue to find homes,
their only option is basically death (which is what will most likely happen
if taken to a shelter).  Sadly so many very adoptable cats are euthanized
due to the lack of homes each day.   I have been doing this 8 years
now...it really is a lifetime commitment (as far as the cats' lifetime
goes, anyway), unless you find someone else willing to get involved or take
over.  Unless the cats are friendly/adoptable, I would caution you not to
raise any attention to them such as the media...if unadoptable the best
thing that you can do is ensure they are spayed/neutered, vaccinated  ear
tipped and tend to any medical needs that may arise, in which case you
might need help or advise. Alley Cat Allies website is a great info
resource, and also has feral friends by area, they might be able to put
you in touch with someone if there is anyone in your area who has
registered as a contact.   There is also a great Feral Cats yahoo group
where you can get a lot of great input.

Ensuring they are all spayed/neutered is the most important part here, or
there will be more cats with the same plight.

  I hope you can find someone to assist during your recovery, and that your
surgery goes well--thank you for caring for these cats!  If you can't find
anyone to help feed, you could certainly try contacting rescue groups to
see if anyone nearby can help while you are recovering.

Heather
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi.  I threw this out there a few weeks ago but don't i know if it went
 thru - I didn't see any replies.
 I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with outdoor (stray) cat
 feeding.  I have been feeding 7 for a year and a half now.
 I am going to have arm surgery and will not be able to drive for 6 weeks
 and will have a very difficult postop recovery.  I have no-one else to feed
 the cats.  I am thinking of calling some shelters and maybe simultaneously
 the newspaper to expose their plight.  Perhaps some can be adopted, if a
 facility would take them in and if they got the proper exposure from the
 newspaper.  I also could try to help in the adoption process.  ALSO, my
 other question is, how long have people been feeding their outdoor cats?  I
 am thinking this cannot go on forever.  Where do I find people to help me
 out with it, if I can't find adoptions?  Any input on this, would be great.
  Thanks

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 *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:12 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 I wouldn't know..besides of FIP it could be heart trouble and other
 conditions. Sorry I can't reasure you. The vet can draw fluid and analyze
 it for protein content, high protein is FIP. Last year and earlier this
 year we lost two kittens to FIP almost a month apart. When they extracted
 fluid from the first one it was clear but the analysis confirmed the high
 protein content. So dx was FIP, later on vet found a large mass growing so
 concluded that he had pancreatic cancer thus the fluid_at that point was
 greenish_his sister also got a FIP dx, high prt fluid but more typical;
 yellow viscous fluid, no cancer.
 I'm wishing all the best to you and your kitten

 http://homelessnomore.webs.com/

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 *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:00 PM
 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FeLV  Ascites?

 My FeLV+ kitten developed ascites and I'm worried the vet is going to tell
 me it's FIP. Does anyone know if ascites is ever related to FeLV?

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV and oral cancer

2012-07-18 Thread Heather
Hi Amy,

I'm really sorry to hear what all you have been through.

We have had 3 cases of oral cancer (squamous cell carcinoma).  It is
ruthless and horrible.  My understanding is that it can be tough to
distinguish between the oral tumors and other oral/dental problems
sometimes until the tumor becomes so visible/obvious it is already very
advanced (which was the case with all 3 of ours, they were not cats living
with us so not quite exact situation you have--just let me know if you'd
like more info though).  My understanding is also that there is not much
you can do treatment wise for such a cancer (though I think I have
heard there may be some cases where they can remove part of the jaw if
applicable).

There have been many cases of this type of cancer on the Feline Cancer
group, I's suggest posting there.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/   There was one person
(search Jen  Ski) who used Neoplasense and did as much for her kitty as
possible, from what I've heard keeping them comfortable is the main
objective since there is not a lot (to my knowledge) that you can do
treatment wise.

I wish you and your kitty the best, and really appreciate you caring about
her so much.  I hope by chance this is not what you are dealing with, and
that if you are you can find some helpful information and experience on
this or the cancer group that might help you.

Heather

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I know this isn't an FIV group but I thought I might be able to find
 some helpful info.  I have two cats that have leukemia and I've been
 through lymphoma and cancer with several of the positives.  This time it is
 my FIV+ that is having trouble.  About a month ago, we noticed a large
 swelling on the side of her face.  We took her to the vet and she had a bad
 tooth which started bleeding when the doctor touched it.  My vet, who I
 adore and who has never steered me wrong over all the years of my leuk
 positives, recommended I put her on antibiotics and bring her back to have
 the tooth removed.  We did that and she had 4 extractions.  She had
 bloodwork and testing prior to surgery and everything was beautiful.  No
 signs of anything but a dental abscess.

 Following the surgery, the swelling on her face was not going away.  She
 has been on very strong antibiotics (trying different kinds and multiple
 ones together) and yet the mass continues to grow.  My vet started by
 saying she was concerned we might be dealing with cancer.  At this point,
 she is fully convinced there is a tumor growing in there.  For all my other
 cats, I have pursued test after test trying to save them.  I've done chemo,
 I've gone to Cornell University trying to save some of them, but ultimately
 the cancer always seems to win.  So my vet said I could let her be or I
 could put her under and do dental x-rays and a biopsy.  Her socket has not
 even healed from her dental and my vet said she personally probably
 wouldn't put her through the biopsy as we are either dealing with infection
 or cancer and we are both confident this is not infection.  Has anybody
 else ever been through something like this?  I don't want to put her
 through any more sedation, testing, etc. if her days are numbered but I
 also wonder if I could be missing something.  My vet gave me this kitty and
 she loves her like her own kitty so I'm leaning towards following her
 advice.  I just always thought my FIV+ kitty might live a long, normal life
 and am so bummed to be possibly dealing with cancer yet again.  Would love
 to hear about anybody else that has been through oral cancer as this is one
 cancer that I haven't been through before.

 Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV and oral cancer

2012-07-18 Thread Heather
PS:   Oral SCC would be a useful term to search on this type of cancer.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Amy,

 I'm really sorry to hear what all you have been through.

 We have had 3 cases of oral cancer (squamous cell carcinoma).  It is
 ruthless and horrible.  My understanding is that it can be tough to
 distinguish between the oral tumors and other oral/dental problems
 sometimes until the tumor becomes so visible/obvious it is already very
 advanced (which was the case with all 3 of ours, they were not cats living
 with us so not quite exact situation you have--just let me know if you'd
 like more info though).  My understanding is also that there is not much
 you can do treatment wise for such a cancer (though I think I have
 heard there may be some cases where they can remove part of the jaw if
 applicable).

 There have been many cases of this type of cancer on the Feline Cancer
 group, I's suggest posting there.
 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/   There was one person
 (search Jen  Ski) who used Neoplasense and did as much for her kitty as
 possible, from what I've heard keeping them comfortable is the main
 objective since there is not a lot (to my knowledge) that you can do
 treatment wise.

 I wish you and your kitty the best, and really appreciate you caring about
 her so much.  I hope by chance this is not what you are dealing with, and
 that if you are you can find some helpful information and experience on
 this or the cancer group that might help you.

 Heather

  On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I know this isn't an FIV group but I thought I might be able to find
 some helpful info.  I have two cats that have leukemia and I've been
 through lymphoma and cancer with several of the positives.  This time it is
 my FIV+ that is having trouble.  About a month ago, we noticed a large
 swelling on the side of her face.  We took her to the vet and she had a bad
 tooth which started bleeding when the doctor touched it.  My vet, who I
 adore and who has never steered me wrong over all the years of my leuk
 positives, recommended I put her on antibiotics and bring her back to have
 the tooth removed.  We did that and she had 4 extractions.  She had
 bloodwork and testing prior to surgery and everything was beautiful.  No
 signs of anything but a dental abscess.

 Following the surgery, the swelling on her face was not going away.  She
 has been on very strong antibiotics (trying different kinds and multiple
 ones together) and yet the mass continues to grow.  My vet started by
 saying she was concerned we might be dealing with cancer.  At this point,
 she is fully convinced there is a tumor growing in there.  For all my other
 cats, I have pursued test after test trying to save them.  I've done chemo,
 I've gone to Cornell University trying to save some of them, but ultimately
 the cancer always seems to win.  So my vet said I could let her be or I
 could put her under and do dental x-rays and a biopsy.  Her socket has not
 even healed from her dental and my vet said she personally probably
 wouldn't put her through the biopsy as we are either dealing with infection
 or cancer and we are both confident this is not infection.  Has anybody
 else ever been through something like this?  I don't want to put her
 through any more sedation, testing, etc. if her days are numbered but I
 also wonder if I could be missing something.  My vet gave me this kitty and
 she loves her like her own kitty so I'm leaning towards following her
 advice.  I just always thought my FIV+ kitty might live a long, normal life
 and am so bummed to be possibly dealing with cancer yet again.  Would love
 to hear about anybody else that has been through oral cancer as this is one
 cancer that I haven't been through before.

 Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-05-03 Thread Heather
I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as
wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to
consider FIP.   We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue
(adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming
kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure.

Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted.  There is a
FIP group, I am on it, here is a link:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/

Please know that many thoughts are with you!

Heather



On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com 
molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP.  I read a lot about it
 last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form.  I'll give a
 few more details later.  It breaks my heart.


 Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT

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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
 Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm


 I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like
 this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly
 in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs.

 Lorrie


 On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I  have  a  FeLV kitten that I'm fostering.  She's six or seven months
 old.   She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis.
  The  uveitis  never  has completely cleared up.  But now I'm not sure
 what's  going  on.   Her  back  legs are kind of wobbly.  It's not bad
 enough  that  my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it.  It's like
 she's  slightly drunk.  She's walking okay with the front legs but her
 back  legs  give  way a little or something when she's walking.  She's
 eating  and going to the bathroom.  She doesn't run around and play as
 much  as  the  other cats do, but never really has.  She's just a real
 mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not
 as  playful.   I'm not sure though.  She's not growing a lot too.  The
 other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has.
 So  any  ideas?  Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in
 the back legs.  She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as
 the  others.  I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's
 anemic or what.  A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office
 was  okay.   I  assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet
 I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on.
 Maureen

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Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again

2012-04-17 Thread Heather Clark
Got it

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:29 AM,  ter...@tazzys.org wrote:
 Got it...

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  Original Message 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again
 From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net
 Date: Mon, April 16, 2012 7:43 pm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hey all,

 Let me know if you get this message. I think there are still
 some problems with the list. Haven't received any mail
 since the host said they fixed the problem. Sorry for the
 inconvenience. Best.

 James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] NYC: pathetic maybe-FeLV needs foster/adopter

2012-04-09 Thread Heather
I saw this cat on the Pets on Death Row Facebook page--heartwrenching, no 
matter how little time he may have on this earth sure would be nice for it to 
end with love and not at that awful shelter. 

Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Apr 9, 2012, at 7:26 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:

 BY TONIGHT
 
 this is a website for cats in the NYC pound system, which is an absolutely 
 horrible place. anyone who isn't sick when they get there will be. there's 
 question about how much of that is the sheer number of critters who pass 
 through the doors, and how much is really bad management and use of resources.
 
 every day around 6pm EDT, they post the cats who are marked for death the 
 next day--the shelters are open to serious adopters phone calls til 8pm; they 
 start euthing at 6am the following day.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/nycurgentcats 
 
 the guy we're working on is the second one from the left--if you scroll down 
 a bit, you'll see his biography; his name is patrick.
 
 the problem with these cats is that no rescue will pull them without having a 
 definite, approved foster/adopter
 
 the website has more info than i do.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps

2012-03-13 Thread Heather
I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were
referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene.

There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very
wonderful  Feline Cancer group.  I would definitely suggest the Feline
Cancer group regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone
has experience with a similar cancer.  And I would suggest researching the
salve thoroughly, I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be
extremely painful in some cases.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/

Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you!

Heather

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, pandie...@aol.com wrote:

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   I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV.  All of a sudden,he got a huge lump
 on the side of his neck.  I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy.
 This a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma.  someone told me about some
 black paste I can use on it.  can anyone in this group steer me in the
 right direction.  thank you.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Bounces

2012-03-12 Thread Heather
Yes I got one of those too.  I'd had a couple bounce so thought it was
legit but hadn't had time to re-read/click..hm, anyone know if it's legit?
Kinda seemed to be but what do I know:)

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 On 03-11, Sally Davis wrote:
 Did  anyone else get an email from this group that says the emails are
 bouncing? I am afraid to click on it in case it is a malicious link .
 James I am still here.
 Sally Davis

 YES,  I did and it was most upsetting I never have bounced mail, as I
 keep my posts short and I trim former messages. I wrote back right
 to the owner right away, and still don't know if I'm being dumped!

 Did anyone else get this ???

 Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Heather
Me too Sherry.  I know I have said this before but I just am always so
touched by how in just a few sentences you capture so much of the
personality (and everyone's love and appreciation of) a certain kitty's
essence, that it actually creates an image.  And the names are just always
so unique and fitting...full of the love and dedication you all obviously
pour into knowing and caring for each kitty.

I am so sorry, and also so glad they have you.  Peace to S'Matter  to you
all.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:

  I am sorry for your loss :(

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 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800
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 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(


   This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy
 cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us
 totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot
 in the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was
 a little braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed
 nowwe will miss you S'Matter  :(
 Sherry

 *We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary*
 *than our own,*
 *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.*
 *Unable to accept its awful gaps.*
 *We still would have it no other way*

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[Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR

2012-03-08 Thread Heather
-- Forwarded message --
From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


Definitely not to argue, but to provide some perspective on high volume TNR
and the ACA (and Neighborhood Cats) stance on routine testing of TNR
ferals...

While millions of cats are of course killed in shelters each year
nationally, the free roaming cat population on the streets may differ
vastly geographically.  In my city (Tampa), there are hundreds of thousands
of feral cats.   There are several of us constantly practicing TNR on the
population at large (or colonies where the feeders are not fixing--a huge
sore spot with us, too), meaning trapping pretty much every week, sometimes
more than once a week, cats who are not at our own colonies.  Some of my
friends trap anywhere from 10 - 50 cats per week for TNR (and of course
kittens and such are rescued as much as space/socialization/fosters permit,
sick cats treated, etc.)  Routine TNR's--not being rescued for adoption or
not being addressed/treated for illness are not tested.   If we tested
every cat, we could only spay/neuter/vaccinate a fraction of the cats.
There would be far more (exponentially, we all know how cats can
reproduce--here it's hot and a mama will have 3 litters a year) cats
breeding, spreading illness.  There would be more negative AND more
positive cats, and therefore since unfixed, also more positive (and
negative) kittens being born on the streets.   In our city, we are serving
the greater good by fixing as many as possible.   Since we all also do a
lot of rescue, pulling friendlies/dumped cats, or cats to be treated for
illness, from colonies, I can say we run into FELV fairly seldomly.
Despite my own very high # of colonies, in addition to helping people
rescue and fix cats all over, I have run into FELV the most of anyone I
know and it's really just been in two areas, close in proximity, where the
feeders are NOT fixing the cats.  Disease definititely seems to proliferate
where the cats are unsterilized, though of course I realize it spreads in
other ways besides reproducing.

As TNR has steadily increased in our county, the # of cats euthanized at
our county AS has steadily declined--I can share a graph if anyone is
interested, the results are absolutely amazing and pretty much in direct
proportion in terms of euth decrease/TNR increase.   Several years ago
16K-18K cats were killed per year at this county shelter; now it is down to
around 9K.

Even our own local Humane Society--which has the most awesome s/n/TNR
clinic, but was very firm on testing for years, finally conceded with the
ACA/Neighborhood Cats stance that, on routine TNR's not showing signs of
illness, the resources are best spent in sterilizing more cats than on
testing.  They do sometimes call us while assessing/operating and say they
feel a particular cat needs to be tested.  They are elated by the decrease
in shelter euthanasia as well.

I have no qualms returning an FIV+ cat to a safe area with a good
caretaker, I had one FIV+ female who lived to be 14 outside until we
brought her in to live her last 9 months due to geriatric issues.  Granted,
this was on a university campus where we often have cats live to be over 10
years old (just a little different environment from the true streets such
as fast food joints, etc.).

I hope me providing this perspective isn't resented--again, it's not
intended to argue, just some comments to explain why many embrace the ACA
perspective on not testing routine TNR's[?]

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and best practices for
what they are doing.  The overpopulation problem in Florida is insane, that
is one thing that goes without saying.

Thanks everyone for caring about cats!

Heather

  On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have returned FIV cats
 Unfortunately, Alley Cat Allies thinks they all should be returned  not
 even tested. The place I have gotten ferals fixed believes this  refuses
 to test ferals.
 Crazy.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR

2012-03-08 Thread Heather
Yeah, it's a catch-22, the elements are much kinder to the cats here...and
thus we have many more cats with year round reproduction...kitten season
never really ends here, though it does slow down considerably and when it
hits--it's like kitten hurricane season.   Worried about this one as we had
an extremely mild winter, shelters are already filling up with kittens and
nursing mamas[?]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

  At least the cat colonies don’t have to freeze in the winter in FL like
 they do elsewhere…

 Most TNR groups that I know of in this area don’t tests at all.

 ** **

 *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:27 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR

 ** **

 ** **

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: *Heather* furrygi...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 

 Definitely not to argue, but to provide some perspective on high volume
 TNR and the ACA (and Neighborhood Cats) stance on routine testing of TNR
 ferals...

  

 While millions of cats are of course killed in shelters each year
 nationally, the free roaming cat population on the streets may differ
 vastly geographically.  In my city (Tampa), there are hundreds of thousands
 of feral cats.   There are several of us constantly practicing TNR on the
 population at large (or colonies where the feeders are not fixing--a huge
 sore spot with us, too), meaning trapping pretty much every week, sometimes
 more than once a week, cats who are not at our own colonies.  Some of my
 friends trap anywhere from 10 - 50 cats per week for TNR (and of course
 kittens and such are rescued as much as space/socialization/fosters permit,
 sick cats treated, etc.)  Routine TNR's--not being rescued for adoption or
 not being addressed/treated for illness are not tested.   If we tested
 every cat, we could only spay/neuter/vaccinate a fraction of the cats.
 There would be far more (exponentially, we all know how cats can
 reproduce--here it's hot and a mama will have 3 litters a year) cats
 breeding, spreading illness.  There would be more negative AND more
 positive cats, and therefore since unfixed, also more positive (and
 negative) kittens being born on the streets.   In our city, we are serving
 the greater good by fixing as many as possible.   Since we all also do a
 lot of rescue, pulling friendlies/dumped cats, or cats to be treated for
 illness, from colonies, I can say we run into FELV fairly seldomly.
 Despite my own very high # of colonies, in addition to helping people
 rescue and fix cats all over, I have run into FELV the most of anyone I
 know and it's really just been in two areas, close in proximity, where the
 feeders are NOT fixing the cats.  Disease definititely seems to proliferate
 where the cats are unsterilized, though of course I realize it spreads in
 other ways besides reproducing. 

  

 As TNR has steadily increased in our county, the # of cats euthanized at
 our county AS has steadily declined--I can share a graph if anyone is
 interested, the results are absolutely amazing and pretty much in direct
 proportion in terms of euth decrease/TNR increase.   Several years ago
 16K-18K cats were killed per year at this county shelter; now it is down to
 around 9K.

  

 Even our own local Humane Society--which has the most awesome s/n/TNR
 clinic, but was very firm on testing for years, finally conceded with the
 ACA/Neighborhood Cats stance that, on routine TNR's not showing signs of
 illness, the resources are best spent in sterilizing more cats than on
 testing.  They do sometimes call us while assessing/operating and say they
 feel a particular cat needs to be tested.  They are elated by the decrease
 in shelter euthanasia as well.

  

 I have no qualms returning an FIV+ cat to a safe area with a good
 caretaker, I had one FIV+ female who lived to be 14 outside until we
 brought her in to live her last 9 months due to geriatric issues.  Granted,
 this was on a university campus where we often have cats live to be over 10
 years old (just a little different environment from the true streets such
 as fast food joints, etc.).

  

 I hope me providing this perspective isn't resented--again, it's not
 intended to argue, just some comments to explain why many embrace the ACA
 perspective on not testing routine TNR's

  

 Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and best practices for
 what they are doing.  The overpopulation problem in Florida is insane, that
 is one thing that goes without saying.

  

 Thanks everyone for caring about cats!

  

 Heather

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have

[Felvtalk] Fwd: caboodle ranch - other side of the story links

2012-03-07 Thread Heather
 My bf and I take care of over 140 feral/homeless cats on the streets
everyday (in over 20 different spots), 365 days a year for several years
now, they are spayed and neutered/vaccinated, treated for illnesses as much
as we are able (including going to far lengths both
medically/financially--when not unkind given their temprament, some are
friendly or close--and far lengths to trap them in drainpipes or wherever
they might be if they are ill and difficult to trap).  We have treated
colonies successfully for scabies both multiple cats at a time or
individual ones, we have a friendly feral in our bathroom right now
recovering (very well!) from liver disease.  We have brought in CRF cats to
live out their lives, unblocked ferals and continued them healthfully with
dietary management and supplements.

I live in Florida where fortunately, weather is pretty easy on the cats--it
is unfortunately also why there are so many feral cats down here, they can
reproduce year round due to the climate, and, the climate of course doesn't
control the population otherwise either.

I have known about Caboodle Ranch since 2007, back when there were far
fewer cats (150 or less I think) and many of my contacts went there with
good reports.  It seemed to me in the last couple of years from the things
I was hearing that there were problems.   Caboodle Ranch took in many feral
cats from situations/rescuers in Florida who's colonies were otherwise
facing death/extermination; they also took in many friendly pets from
people who, for whatever reason, were no longer 'able' (or willing, my
guess in most cases) to care for them.  To me, that would account for the
400 who the ASPCA says (probably correct) were dying for attention and went
right into carriers.

I am not sticking up for Caboodle, nor the other side, but I would love for
even some sort of a misdemeanor neglect/cruelty/stupidity charge to be
brought on every person who dumped their friendly pet there, thinking that
for $150, they were going to get the love, attention and medical care
needed amongst hundreds of others that they themselves were apparently not
either willing or able to provide to them on a one-on-one (or two or ten--I
doutbt these people had 700 cats) basis.

It sucks that we rescuers are dealing with such large volumes and many life
and death choices.  Since the people on this group are people who chose
life for FELV+ cats (which even some rescuers might not), I would hope that
choosing to spay/neuter (TNR) and care for a feral cat for their life on
the streets would be an act that is respected (there are people who believe
that not euthanizing an FELV is cruel as well, unfortunately, or even
believe it's wrong for them to take homes from healthy cats--an opinion
that really bothers me). We are choosing life for these feral cats, making
their lives better, and ensuring they do not contribute to the
overpopulation problem. It is a lifetime commitment, some may not do a very
good job at it just like some owners do not.  We are making the best of a
bad situation, and actually doing something to fight the overpopulation
problem that results not only in so many living on or being born on the
streets, but then also ending up in shelters.  The way I see it you are
either part of the problem or part of the solution.  Whether you think
feral cats should live outdoors or not, spaying/neutering (TNR) serves to
reduce the number living on the streets.   Those practicing TNR are part of
the solution.   People who haul feral cats in to be killed at shelters, on
tax payer dollars, could instead be taking them to a spay/neuter clinic.

I have no idea what to make of the differing reports on Caboodle's status
in the time leading up to the raid, but I wish the people who dumped their
pets at a large scale sanctuary might have to justify their actions rather
than just shake their heads and say but we gave him $150 and trusted
him.  It is sad for those who perhaps were dealing with serious illnesses
such as cancer, etc., but I'd be willing to bet a lot of those people were
just moving and not taking the cats with them.



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 *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marta Gasper
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:26 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch - other side of the story links**
 **

 ** **

 consider how many times TNR's put domestic cats back on the street if
 there were feeders? (I'm not one of them, but consider that, before
 condemning the guy.)

  

 You mean the policy of returning cats to a feral colony if the colony has
 a feeder?..how that fits into this situation? TNR is for ferals not
 housecats.

 Though in some cases_such as mine I trap cats on the loose, ferals or not.
 If feral they go to a feral colony, if not I try to find owner, education
 goes so far, most people will want to keep the cat in/out but at least the
 cat is neutered 

[Felvtalk] Caboodle Ranch link

2012-03-05 Thread Heather
I'm just posting this link in case anyone is interested in hearing the
other side of the story--I am not trying to take either side but thought
this may be of interest to some.

I can't say which side is right--my guess would be neither and that the
truth lies somewhere in between, however, PETA is absolutely using this
case to try to fight the Florida Animal Rescue Act and for me, their
involvement really skews things.  Again though just posting since this case
has been discussed here.  Thanks!
http://caboodleranch.livejournal.com/43479.html
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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-02 Thread Heather
What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that  they
sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to
call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act.

This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I
know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying
this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters.  So
now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no
familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be
speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at
the time when it needs all the support it can get.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I agree.  PETA does not have too good a record themselves.  This man
 simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem.  I
 also agree about those who tortue.  There was a man in the St. Louis area
 who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death.  He kept
 them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering.  If I had
 my way, this man would have been shot on site.  I was called for jury duty
 on an animal cruelty case.  They asked me if I had an opinion on the case.
  I said shot the sob.  They didn't call me for that jury.


  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how
  anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially
  when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses
 (no
  matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really
  surprised!  However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a
 bit..for
  several reasons. Natalie
 
 
 
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM
  To: FeLV Talk
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
 
 
 
 
 http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of
  -600-cats#photo-9221699
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-02 Thread Heather
I've seen a lot about the NY quick kill bill, Christiane--it is horrible,
so many pets may be euthanized on intake before anyone has a chance to look
for them.The rest of the country (well, some of it) is moving toward
recognizing TNR and feral freedom, but this bill will put NY in
reverse.   It is very sad.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote:

  Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local
 rescues/shelters.  Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide
 transportation to various rescues  shelters who then have responsibility
 for the animals.  

 ** **

 As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a
 shelter would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it.
 http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally
 advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it.  In NY,
 my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the “quick kill” bill which
 would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal
 they deem to be under “psychological pain”

 ** **

 *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
 *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
 

   ** **

 PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do?**
 **

 I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out
 with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA
 will die. Lose-lose situation.

 ** **

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 *From:* Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
 

 ** **

 What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that  they
 sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to
 call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act.

  

 This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I
 know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying
 this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters.  So
 now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no
 familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be
 speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at
 the time when it needs all the support it can get.

 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I agree.  PETA does not have too good a record themselves.  This man
 simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem.  I
 also agree about those who tortue.  There was a man in the St. Louis area
 who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death.  He kept
 them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering.  If I had
 my way, this man would have been shot on site.  I was called for jury duty
 on an animal cruelty case.  They asked me if I had an opinion on the case.
  I said shot the sob.  They didn't call me for that jury.


  GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how
  anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially
  when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses
 (no
  matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really
  surprised!  However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a
 bit..for
  several reasons. Natalie
 
 
 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM
  To: FeLV Talk
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort

2012-03-01 Thread Heather
One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty
charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed
here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely
torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much
evidence.  I read one case recently of a man in California who was caught
torturing then consuming stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed
skinning one alive (and other horrible acts), and he got a bit of community
service, probation and a fine under $500.  This happens all the time.
Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in evidence, witnesses and the legal
process, but it seems to me that hoarders are penalized more stringently
than flat out torturers who commit such acts willingly, not because they
got in over their heads.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:


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Re: [Felvtalk] Black salve

2012-02-20 Thread Heather
If anyone is interested in learning more about the black salve, there is a
yahoo group for black salve neoplasene.

It also has been discussed a bit on the Feline Cancer group by a few who
have used it.

I have no experience--just mentioning in case anyone is interested in
reading others experiences with it.

Best to all,

Heather

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 I have my doubts about this black salve too. If it is that much of
 a miracle salve vets would surely be using it. I fear this is just
 another quack making money on desperate people who want to save their
 pets.  Human cancer victims fall for these things all the time, and
 it is unbelievably cruel to take money from people and give them
 false hope.

 Lorrie  (aka older and wiser)

 On 02-19, Ruth Parsons wrote:
 Hi
 
 I  appreciate  all  the  info  on FELV this group provides. I research
 treatments  suggested  and  look  for a variety of reliable sources to
 help me care for our cat, who is presently thriving despite 2 positive
 tests.  The  recent  postings  regarding black salve and Deva Khalsa
 gave  me some concern. The links below, and others, raise issues about
 this product and the products promoted by this person. Just FYI.
 1. [1]http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar
 .
 html
 
 2.
 [2]
 http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-wate
 r-quackery/
 
  References
 
 1.
 http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html
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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent Advice Needed

2012-02-10 Thread Heather
Can u contact rescues around you to try to find some doxy?  Most I know usually 
have it on hand. Very sorry to hear about Kiss:(

Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 So sorry to hear about Kiss. Poor baby.
 Are sure he had Hemobartonella? Doxy would have been the treament. I had a 
 non FeLV cat who had it.
 So sad.
 Beth
 
 dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 If you have any question about the antibotic and cannot get a reasonable 
 answer from him soon, I would go for a 2nd opinion.  Do yo have a 24 hour 
 emergency vet near you?  I can get to one i about 1 hour and they have a 
 very up to date set up with ultrasound and the works.  
  Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I am sad to say that Kiss (FeLV + Blood parasite boy) did not make it. He 
 hung on for three days and fought like the dickens but could not shake it. 
 
 What I need to know is why my vet prescribed azithromyicin and clavamox for 
 the parasite when doxycycline is the only proven treatment. I cannot get 
 him on the phone as he is in surgery, and I have another cat who has 
 stopped eating and is lethargic. I need her to get the appropriate 
 treatment quickly, she is the mother of most of our brood and is very 
 special to us. 
 
 Thanks,
 Amanda Vollaro
 avoll...@optonline.net
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Re: [Felvtalk] Charlie,Whispy and Bubba Please add to the CLS :(

2011-12-09 Thread Heather Clark
so sorry for your loss, Sherry

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 All three of these wonderful FORMER Sids kids had the joy of having
 wonderful homes
 Charlie was a sweet loving gray boy who had a great home with one of our
 volunteers Marcia who also had Whispy for a short time.Whispy passed today
 on Marcias birthday:(
 Charlie passed 2 days ago.
 Then Bubba,I remember meeting him when I first started volunteering at
 Sids,a beautiful white boy with one yellow eye and one green eye. Bubba had
 a loving home with Julie another one of our awesome volunteers for almost 6
 years.What a sad week for so many
 Sherry

 *We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary*
 *than our own,*
 *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.*
 *Unable to accept its awful gaps.*
 *We still would have it no other way*

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lila Rose and Roxxi Please add to the CLS :(

2011-11-14 Thread Heather Clark
So sorry for your loss.  My heart goes out to you.

Sent from my VZW 4G LTE Revolution at blazing fast speed
On Nov 13, 2011 7:16 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We lost these two Sids girls in the last several days.
 Lila Rose was a shy scared girl that was only with us for just a few
 months.
 Roxxi was a beautiful Torti girl who was very quiet and sweet.I had the
 honor of loving her for just over 3 years. I was broken hearted over these
 two lovely ladies.   :(
 Sherry
 *We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary*
 *than our own,*
 *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.*
 *Unable to accept its awful gaps.*
 *We still would have it no other way*

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Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten?

2011-10-25 Thread Heather
I sure hope she might retest first, so many false positives these days it
seems...

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  Can anyone help?  Natalie 

 ** **

 sus...@bannermattress.net writes:

 I found a stray kitten at work last week. I took her to my vet this
 Saturday and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I already have two
 kittens, 7 months and 3 months old, so there is no possibility for Rockie
 to join my household. I have heard that there are people who keep or foster
 cats with leukemia. Do you know of anyone who does this?

 She is a friendly, sweet, delightful little tortie who gets along
 wonderfully with my two dogs. She is approximately 7 weeks old and weighs in
 at a whopping 1.11 lbs.

 Thanks for any help you can provide.

 Susan Macias

 (909) 730-9762

  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Time out for a giggle....

2011-08-26 Thread Heather
Hilarious!!!

Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Aug 26, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 A Trip to Costco 
 
 Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for 
 my loyal pet, Jake, the Wonder Dog and was in the check-out line when a woman 
 behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant? So 
 since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I 
 didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I 
 probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that 
 I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes 
 coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms. 
 
 I told her that it was essentially a Perfect Diet and that the way that it 
 works is, to load your pants pockets with Purina Nuggets and simply eat one 
 or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it 
 works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that 
 practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified, 
 she asked if I ended up in intensive care, because the dog food poisoned me.  
 I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff a poodle's ass and a car hit me. 
 
 I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing 
 so hard. 
 
 Costco won't let me shop there anymore. 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Heather
Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate
himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's
pet.   some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were
sweet once we got our hands on them.

Was she scanned for a chip?  I would definitely do this.

She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost.

Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've
had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't
always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves  misses it.

So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn
out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been
crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before
where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows.  I
say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or
at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves
to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim.

Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I
missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people
just moved out, etc.).

Good luck and thank you for helping her!!

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:

  Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do.  Place her in a room in
 the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly,
 simply scared.  If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :(

  --
 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 +
 From: merrykatme...@email.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma


 Hi Bonnie,

 I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside.

 Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks?  If so,
 you should keep her in there - with litter, food  water  a place to hide
 (large box with hole in it  some towels will do just fine) while you get
 her accustomed to you as her new care giver.  Go in there everyday to be
 with her - even if you don't touch her.  Stay in there for at least a
 half-hour  read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to
 hearing you.

 If you decide to name her - use her name over  over when you go in to feed
 her.  Praise her for being a smart  strong kitty.  etc.

 Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window
 cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells
 from inside.  That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box
 outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings  won't be
 so apt to bolt or run off.

 Good luck!  It will be worth the time  the effort!!!

 Kat (Mew Jersey)

 - Original Message -

 From: Bonnie Hogue

 Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

  Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday!  Now I’m literally an
 hour away from needing to decide.



 The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral”
 living in her large yard.  The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the
 past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only
 source of food?).



 Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and
 excellent TNR organization.  Guess what?  She had already been spayed.  That
 means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her!



 So here’s the dilemma:  if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange
 place.  The only thing holding her near will be my good heart.  If I take
 her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows
 what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not
 have as good a motivation as I do.



 I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat.



 But what would YOU do?



 Thanks for your thoughts.



 ~Bonnie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

2011-08-11 Thread Heather
Yep my thoughts exactly, there just is no end to the weird situations that
come up. Had one where the chip contact info was all outdated (phones didn't
work, moved, etc.), kept doing internet searches  Yahoo suggested a
different spelling of the last name--name had been spelled incorrectly on
the chip records.  Still were skeptical as the cat was found at a very
obvious/common dumping spot, but turned out the chip info was from the
original owner (just last name spelled wrong but I located once Yahoo
figured that part out) who had adopted the cat to a friend a year
prior...friend dumped the cat, to the original owner's shock (and showed no
remorse when contacted)...orig. owner felt horrible and took the kitty back.

Have had more than one where I was only able to find the owner, in
situations where it was a very, very old cat (18+, 2 cases like this) but
chip not registered/contact info not up to date, by asking the chip company
where the cat was chipped (unfortunately, the representatives don't always
offer this info up unless you ask but it can be the missing link) or by
guessing the family vet by the registered address  calling the vet who
either knew the cat or was able to look up the people's name.  Found 2
owners that way.

It sucks people don't keep chip info up to date but have seen every very
good homes go through divorce or other change and forget to do so.

I agree, sounds like this kitty has been on the streets a while, still best
to scan for chip  do homework just in case

And remember there is a universal microchip lookup website.   I have also
had chips we scanned ourselves, gave us the chip # and said petlink with a
ph# (or other company), that company had no record...but turned out people
registered with another company.

As a rescuer, I have been very frustrated by these experiences as it tells
me the average joe cat finder won't know/think to try all these things which
makes finding owners even harder...this happened to me once where the chip
info WAS up to date, but, registered to AKC and not coming up via other
searches (including the company/ph# that came up on the scanner when we
scanned the chip).

Sorry to go on, it's a peeve of mine:-)

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote:

  I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters  you have no idea how far
 animals wander.  A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from
 its home about 10 miles away.  Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays,
 bring them home, and then lose or dump them again—now even further from
 home.  Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter 
 maybe taking a look at craig’s list—though in this case, it sounds like the
 cat’s been out there for a couple of years.  

 ** **

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 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma

   ** **

 Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate
 himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's
 pet.   some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were
 sweet once we got our hands on them.

  

 Was she scanned for a chip?  I would definitely do this.

  

 She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost.

  

 Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and
 I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date
 doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves  misses it.***
 *

  

 So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn
 out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been
 crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before
 where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows.  I
 say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or
 at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves
 to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim.

  

 Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if
 I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people
 just moved out, etc.).

  

 Good luck and thank you for helping her!!

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:*
 ***

 Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do.  Place her in a room in the
 house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly,
 simply scared.  If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :(
  
  --

 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 +
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 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts

Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-27 Thread Heather Clark
Sherry, so sorry.  What a handsome and sweet boy he was.  My FeLV boy
is a sweet orange man too.  It breaks my heart for you every time I
see one of these posting.  Thank you for having such strength to
continue to love these babies without hesitation, even while knowing
the great risk of loss.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt
drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Sherry, Zombo sounds like such a special treasure. I'm crying with you for
 his loss, and the loss of the way-too-many other SIDS kids who have left you
 these last couple of weeks. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to every one of them,
 and hugs to every one of you.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:07 PM
 To: Felvtalk
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

 Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY
 can take???  Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun
 lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the
 counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each
 shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs
 were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so
 awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am
 supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you
 handsome orange and white baby boy
 Sherry
 PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting
 cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight  :) I love
 them ALL so much

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Re: [Felvtalk] Oscar Please Add to the CLS :( :( :(

2011-07-24 Thread Heather Clark
Sherry, my heart is filled with sorrow for you and the sweet sids
babies that have crossed the bridge.  Bless you for having the
strength to continue to love these angels.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:
 My heart is filled with sadness as well.  It's comforting that you did get
 the chance to kiss him and was able to tell him you loved him.

 I don't know how you deal with these tragedies on a daily basis, but I'm
 glad that you so freely do more than your share.  These babies rely on the
 humans that have a special heart for the ones that need it most. Thanks for
 having a big, special heart!

 RIP, Oscar. You were loved!

 Hugs to you,
 Lynda
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 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 12:10 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Oscar Please Add to the CLS :( :( :(


 Ok really how much heartache are we supposed to handle all at one time???
 Oscar was a great tiger boy,he was our special one -eyed guy. I lovingly
 called him Oscar de la One eye. We found out this morning that Dr. Jen had
 to let him go...something about diabetic shockI was so happy that I did
 have the chance to tell him I love him and kiss him last night before I left
 from my shift at Sids.My heart new to give EXTRA lovin last night.My heart
 is so heavy today with sadness..
 Sherry


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Re: [Felvtalk] Umberto Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-21 Thread Heather
I am sorry too Sherry, SIDS kitties always have the best, unique names, it's
so evident how much love and thought goes into your SIDS kids.  Thanks to
you and everyone there for making sure Umberto, Turner  Studley do Right
had the love they so deserved in their time here.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 This really has been a bad week - I am so sorry for Umberto!

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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sara Kasteleyn
 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:21 AM
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 Noo...how can we have lost so many sweet babies in so short a time?

 Another candle was lit tonight in SoCal for Umberto.

 Frolic with the rest of our special ones and wait for us, Umberto.

 S

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 He passed today Belinda
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Aww Sherry, sound like a sweetie pie, when did he pass?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Turner and Studley Do Right Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-20 Thread Heather Clark
So Sorry to hear of Turner and Studley crossing the bridge.  My heart
goes out to you and all that loved them.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Sara Kasteleyn
skastel...@cicresearch.com wrote:

 Sherry...such sad news to start the day today.  Wishing you light and love as 
 you remember them and smile.  Candles tonight in their honor in SoCal.  Sara



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 Sent: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:23:07 -0700 PDT
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Turner and Studley Do Right Please add to the CLS :(

 We lost 2 more of our Sids kids today
 Turner was one of my rescues from off the awful streets of Grand Rapids,He 
 was sweet handsome buff and white boy that cooed like a pidgeon when you 
 scratched his back.

 Studley was a sweet gray and white boy,he LOVED everyone and let them know it 
 !!! Rest in peace you sweet fur angels.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Xana to the CLS

2011-07-20 Thread Heather Clark
I am so sorry to hear that Xana lost her fight with this horrible
disease.  Bless you for showing her love and comfort.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Xana passed away last Thursday of severe anemia. Xana got much worse in the
 last two weeks. Nothing could help her.
 She has not reached 3 years.


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Re: [Felvtalk] DMG

2011-07-06 Thread Heather
Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention the 3 we've
had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats afterwards, and have
done wonderfully ever since.  They were not FELV cats, though.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for FeLV+ cats?

 I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE MOUTH, TO
 THE
 POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get that condition, and
 unfortunately, the only suggested and supposedly appropriate thing is to
 have their teeth pulled by a specialist, with special emphasis on cleaning
 out the areas extremely well.  My vet says that he doesn't like doing it
 because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying DMG.

 I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in different
 forms.



 It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications:

 http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE

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Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter

2011-07-04 Thread Heather
I would suggest also posting to the Feline Cancer group, I am so sorry and hope 
you can determine what is best for Dexter. I will be thinking of him. 

Heather in Tampa

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On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Ben Williams drsiebl...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are having a hard time making a very tough decision for Dexter.  In the 
 past three days, Dex has suffered facial and paw swelling and has started 
 having difficulty breathing.  Today has been bad and he is now receiving 
 oxygen at the Dallas emergency vet clinic.  X-rays show that he has lymph 
 node involvement in every area and his liver and spleen are enlarged and have 
 move out of the proper body cavity. This puts him in, I think, stage 4 of 
 lymphosarcoma. He is whimpering and obviously in pain.  We don't want to give 
 up and we are willing to do chemo for him. We want to do what's best for 
 Dexter, but it is so hard to make that final decision.  Is it time for his 
 suffering to be over? Does he have a chance?  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ittle Bitty

2011-06-27 Thread Heather
Sally,

I have no idea if this input will be helpful or not, as I know these
neurological issues can be very vague and differ from case to case and I
don't want to give you false hope.

We have a formerly feral rescue kitty, Marlee, who showed up at the colony
one day staggering/head tilt/disoriented.   It was a bout of vestibular
syndrome, along with Hyper T, and she did mostly recover.  However, a year
later, she had either a second vestibular bout/relapse--or possible a
stroke--which left her unable to stand on her own for several weeks, close
to 2 months I think.  She was not paralyzed, but couldn't stand.  They gave
her supportive nursing care and each week saw improvement.  Had there not
been slow, gradual but clear signs of improvement, the vets may have felt
differently about treating.

However, she did get through it and is now (months later) the healthiest and
strongest she's been since we've known her, and given her reliance on humans
during her down time, now completely social.  She's an adorable little long
hair torti point Siamese and now after 2 years in foster, finally ready for
a home, we just don't know how to find someone we can trust since if she
relapsed and couldn't stand again, she could sadly be put down.

Anyway--I have no idea how much of a miracle her story is, but she did
recover slowly but surely.  Again, each week saw progress in the right
direction as far as her movement and such went.  Cautious optimism, as Diane
said, is a good way of putting it.

Her vitals/organ function was good, as was her mental state, which also gave
optimism.

Please keep us posted, sending good wishes to Itty Bitty!   The only
lingering neuro. signs we are seeing with Marlee are that she licks (licks
US) obsessively, and is extremely animated and silly...but in a good, happy
way it seems.   Her life has really turned around, she was once a feral in
the worst hood where we fear for our lives feeding every night...now we just
need to a find a home that's worthy for this little princess!

Heather

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:

 The clinic called with an update. Not sure it is good news, but he made it
 through the night. He is still not able to use his hind legs. He did not
 eat
 this moring but they said there was some interest, Moslty he lays on his
 left side and has a head tilt. Any one here with experience with this sort
 of problem? I am wondering how he will be once he is home. If there is
 going
 to be no improvement that would not be good. The Vet should be calling
 later
 any feedback would be a great help.

 And Melinda I hope VooDoo come back soon. I have been in your shoes before.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten - Update

2011-06-25 Thread Heather
I could be way out there, but worry if she could have a fluid accumulation in 
the chest impacting her breathing. An X-ray or ultrasound would probably be 
needed to determine that. I am very sorry for what you and little Cali are 
going through, I know it is both painful and frustrating...and as you said, 
very stressful.  I hope you will have answers  soon, I am not experienced with 
interferon but hopefully others will have some input.
Sending best wishes for Cali, and you-
Heather 


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On Jun 25, 2011, at 2:57 PM, ckess...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi Everyone:  
 
 I took Cali to Dr. Wright here in Dallas as Lakewood Vet Hospital.  He is 
 very compassionate and took a lot of time trying to explain what was going 
 on.  He agreed that it was highly unlikely that Sasha would get the virus 
 since Cali had probably had the virus from birth and they have always been 
 indoors.  Sasha has been vaccinated and she also tested negative on Monday of 
 this week.  
 
 He is doing a IFA test to be sure of Cali's situation.  He drew blood on 
 Wednesday, but then his office called yesterday and said that I needed to 
 bring Cali back in because the lab (or someone) messed up the test, and it 
 had to be redone.  So I still don't know the results.  
 
 He wanted to start her on 1cc of Interferon Alpha 2B (1X a day for 7 days and 
 then 1 time a week for thereafter). 
 
 She ate really well yesterday all day long but is still really tired and 
 basically wanted to eat, drink water, and sleep.
 
 Last night, before I started the Interferon, she started breathing with 
 short, fast, breaths. She was still eating and drinking well, just seemed to 
 be breathing more abruptly than normal.  I went ahead and started her on the 
 medication, but now this morning, she doesn't really want to eat and isn't 
 drinking much water.  She is still breathing kind of hard.   I called the Vet 
 and told them I wasn't going to bring her in to draw more blood today because 
 she seemed nauseaed and she has been at a vet almost every day this week.  
 They tell you not to stress a cat the is FeLV+ and then you need to take them 
 to a stressful environment everyday.  I don't understand.  I told them they 
 would have to draw the blood on Monday morning.  
 
 I guess my question is, can the Interferon give them nausea?  She hasn't 
 thrown up, but she smacks her lips together, which I think is a sign that 
 she has an upset stomach.  The Vet said that I needed to be concerned about 
 her not eating, but she was eating before I gave her the Interferon.  
 
 It's just last night her breathing changed to quick short breaths, before I 
 started the medication, so I don't know if that is something I should be more 
 concerned about more than the not eating, or what.  Too many things are 
 changing, and I don't know what to do first.
 
 Please give me some input.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cathy  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Lilac Please add to the CLS :(

2011-06-20 Thread Heather Clark
So Sorry or the loss of Lilac.  It is a blessing that she was able to
know a real home if only for a short time.  These sweet babies bless
us with all the love they have!!

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Lilas was a sweet little beautiful tortie. She had a BIG spirit and LOTS of 
 love to give !!! She had the chance to live in a loving home of her own for a 
 short time,but I know it was full of LOVE. Her sister Posey passed a couple 
 weeks before but also lived in the same wonderful home. Camden lovingly calls 
 his home Camp Feleuk. He has a big heart that has had to deal with MANY 
 losses lately,but I know he believes it was worth giving the special babies a 
 REAL home of their own. :)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Crockett Please add to the CLS :*(

2011-05-11 Thread Heather
Sherry,

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of Crockett, we've got a couple who love
spankings too, it is so cute and endearing.  Thanks for loving him!
Crockett is a great name for a big, orange pile of love  stripes.

I am always sticken by the unqiue and special names SIDS comes up with for
each of these wonderful cats.   And in the same fashion,  you are always
able to give us a glimpse into some of the things that made each kitty
special, even in just a few sentences.  It really captures the love they
were surrounded by--something said so well in such few words, or a name that
brings a face with it, come truly from the heart.

Thank you so much for sharing with us so we can all remember them too.  We
are sad for their losses and their shortened lives but so glad for the love
they had in your care.  Keep up the amazing work.

Heather in Tampa

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sids lost yet another GREAT cat yesterday. Crockett was a big sweet tiger
 that LOVED spankings !! I do believe his spankings helped his battle through
 anemia a few months back,but the anemia won this time :( I love you my
 Crockett Man
 Sherry


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Re: [Felvtalk] Chanel has crossed the Rainbow Bridge

2011-04-13 Thread Heather Clark
This brought tears to my eyes.  I am so sorry for your and the littles ones
lost.  She is surely a kitty angel now looking down on them.

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On Apr 13, 2011 9:06 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

I am so sorry for them and for you - poor little chirpers! Natalie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread Heather
I was just reading about bovine lactoferrin for the same reason--seems worth
a try to me.

I've also seen flagyl/metronidazole mentioned (used in conjunction with
antibiotics, I think)perhaps you could ask your vet about this?

Trental is another thing I read about helping a difficult case.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
 She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
 greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
 red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
 water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
 Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
 does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
 fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
 piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
 about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
 steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
 great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
 anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
  Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
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Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(

2011-04-02 Thread Heather
 Terrie,

I don't know that we've ever spoken but I always recognize your name when it
pops up here as all if my family is from WA. I can't even imagine how
difficult this must be. My bf of 11 years is also my partner in rescue, and
I know many do not have the support and help of their partners in this line
of work. I am sure the bond you have shared for so long spans far beyond the
words love, friendship, husband, partner and companion.

I hope the many years lof love you had together will help carry you on. It
has to be harder than words could every say and no expression of sympathy
could truly feel adequate.

Thank you for sharing here so that we can all keep you in our thoughts.

Heather in Tampa


On Apr 2, 2011, at 11:27 AM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote:

  Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me.
It is hard on me since we have been together for many years.
He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in
rescue.

My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully
in his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again.

He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially
by my Taz as he loved him too.


TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
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Terrie Mohr-Forker
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 From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

 Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's
 illness. He
 has
 liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been
 hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed
 into a
 skill
 nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to
 the
 hospital.

 He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped
 working.
 Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he
 wants for
 comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again.

 I want to make myself available at all times for him.
 He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old
 but it
 isn't
 really.
 Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of
 this.
 Hospice
 is available to me 24 hours a day.

 Sincerely,
 Terrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rosie to CLS

2011-03-30 Thread Heather Clark
My heart aches for your loss.  You gave Rosie, Murphy, and her brothers all
you could.  They were safe, loved, and comfortable.  Bless you for taking
such good care of them and knowing when to let them cross the bridge.  You
will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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It breaks my heart, immensely!!! I am so sorry for your loss!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Lola to the CLS list :(

2011-03-30 Thread Heather Clark
Bless you for helping to make her trip to the bridge as painless as
possible, for showing her the love and compassion she so deserved.  Her
story breaks my heart.

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On Mar 30, 2011 8:19 PM, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote:

  Hi All,
 I have added, Lola, Rosie and Muffy to the Candle Light Service, my
condolences to all of you, their passing is so sad, but sweet little Lola
really tore me up, I have a little one that looks just like her, she is
small for her age and she is a joy I wouldn't want to not have in my life
... I can't imagine people being so self absorbed and cruel.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please

2011-03-23 Thread Heather
I am sad to hear this too and Studs will be in my thoughts.  Second
transport related health crisis I've heard of recently--a week or two ago,
one of the big organizations (HSUS or someone) sent an e-mail out
fundraising for a small dog or puppy that was being transported in a car
with another, much larger dog, not in carriers and was attacked when they
stopped for gas or something to that effect, resulting in critical
injuries.  Very sad.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


 OMG, can someone PLEASE go hit that woman in the head with a tack hammer?
  Studs is in my thoughts and prayers.  I think this goes without saying but
 are you putting the transporter on a DO NOT USE list?

 Please let us know how Studs is doing.

 Edna

  Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:23:13 -0700
  From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Studs in your thoughts Please
  
  I was supposed to have a new FeLV kitty Studs aka Stud Muffin last
 night, but the lady who was transporting him left him in a carrier in her
 carport with no food or water all day. I live in Atlanta  it has been hot.
 He had to be treated for severe dehydration  is currently at the vet. They
 also discovered he had a severe heart murmur, so they are going to check to
 see if that can me managed with meds or if it is too late. He is apparently
 a total love bug. My favorite kind of cat - big black short haired cat with
 green eyes.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-22 Thread Heather
Me three...

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:47 PM, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I was just going to say that Sam!

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  From: SomeWhere Sam sin...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:36 PM
  Sorry but that information is
  outdated or biased.
 
  The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat
  loss or construction for
  same.
 
  Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds
  http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325
 
  SomeWhere Sam
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 2:37:38 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
 
  In the newspaper today:
 
  House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds.  The
  American Bird Conservancy
  estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by
  cats.  About 400,000
  are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the
  number killed by
  cats).  So now we have another reason to keep our cats
  indoors -- not only for
  their own health and safety, but for that of our BIRD
  population!
  Save the cats and the birds: Keep Your Cat Indoors!
  ~Bonnie
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good!

2011-03-17 Thread Heather Clark
Awesome news.  I will keep Rosie in my prayers!

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On Mar 17, 2011 11:03 AM, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

Great news! Rosie is so blessed to have you taking care of her. God Bless
you
all.
 Jannes





From: Sara Kasteleyn skastel...@cicresearch.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 8:50:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rosie's Check Up Today-Pretty Good!



Wow Alice, this is really great news.  Keeing you all in y thoughts and
prayers
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries

2011-02-25 Thread Heather
I hope this link works.  I live in Florida and know several people who have
been to Caboodle.

From what I can surmise, it seems it was pretty decent years ago and has
possibly declined with illness and the increasing population.   Hearing
reports of a cat with its eye hanging out (two different people from
different areas of florida who don't know each other reported seeing this
cat), or an exposed fracture as mentioned in this article, are pretty
scary.   I've heard some things that suggest it may have been cleaned up
some (do not know), but this article was in a local paper in the last few
weeks.

I don't think much can be worse than being stacked in a carrier or cage for
life, but, check it out before leaving an animal is of course the best
advice as stated here by others.

http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article1151027.ece


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I have not personally visited Caboodle...however, the group I foster for
 said they would NEVER allow any of their animals to go there.  The animals
 live out of doors (for the most part)and this guy really discourages
 visitors.  So if a cat gets sick and hides ... how will he know?  The
 healthy ones probably enjoy themselves, but he has no way to keep accurate
 health care records
 Now, you can take this with a grain of saltthis same group is the one
 who placed my unadoptable foster momma in the sanctuary that was shut
 down by Law EnforcementI DID get to see that one and it was nothing
 short of a concentration camp for cats...I still have nightmares.

 Debbie
 ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~



  Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:57:43 -0500
  From: felineres...@kvinet.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
  
  On 02-24, Susan Hoffman wrote:
 
   This is the problem with most sanctuaries. It's a flawed
   business model. A sanctuary by definition offers lifetime care
   So they fill up fast and, as the population ages, become more and
   more expensive to maintain. And usually the people who try to
   start sanctuaries keep taking in new animals, sometimes because
   they need the surrender fee to keep the operation running and
   sometimes because they simply have a hard time saying no. This is
   just not a sustainable model.
 
  I've been looking at on-line sanctuaries because we are old now,
  (78 and 88) and I need a place for my cats to go when we depart
  this earth.
 
  Do any of you know about Caboodle Ranch in northern Florida??
  It looks great on line, but could still be pretty bad as they
  certainly won't be taking pictures that make it look anything less
  than wonderful!
 
  They only charge $150. per cat, and say they have no limit as to
  the number they can take and this raises a red flag to me.
 
  If any of you people in the northern Florida area have any info
  about Caboodle please let me know.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Isaac

2011-02-21 Thread Heather Clark
I don't have any insights for you.   I just wanted to let you know
that my heart goes to out to you.  I will light a candle for Issac

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:33 PM, czadna sacarawicz
czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Isaac would have been 3 years young on 4.14.  He tested positive along with 4 
 others of my inner circle of seven on 3.1.2010.  I did not test further but 
 put efforts into food and supplements.

 Isaac  was big (not fat) black, neutered and active and appeared healthy and 
 aggravated Scrumptious assertively.  This group lived an indoor-outdoor life 
 in the rural Carolina Piedmont.

 Tuesday morning he did not eat.  His breath was horrendous.  He liked to eat 
 - - I used to joke with him that he and I both needed to spend time on the 
 treadmill.  That night he was not there nor on Wednesday nor Thursday morning 
 though I searched and called.  Thursday night he answered.  He could not move 
 and his pupils were dilated and fixed.  He did not look as if he had been 
 attacked by dogs or coyotes.

 I took him the 14 miles home and hydrated him orally during the night.  He 
 got up to walk several times during the late night morning but would walk 3 
 steps and wobble and fall down; he would cry out while sleeping with me or 
 when I moved him but I did not know what the matter was.  Conscious but not 
 responsive to me. (the crying out  walking with falling down reminiscent of 
 Torie Rose - - in her last earthly night.  She was the first and original of 
 this inner circle of 8 who was euthanized 2.28.2010).  I made an appointment 
 with a vet for Friday. He gave fluids - - thought Isaac's teeth and forehead 
 spoke of liver failure, said his lungs were clear and heart sounded good 
 though a little fast.  The plan was to do fluids over the weekend and 
 reassess early in the week.  Vet said could be leukemia.  could be poison.  
 didn't know.

 I unintentionally killed him Friday night and will say no more about that.  
 That is a heavy load.

 To have him suddenly in major distress was unimaginable.  He was only a 
 nanometer beyond Scrumptious in closeness to me.  He and Shallie Marie 
 appeared to be the healthiest.  This is the last thing I would have expected.

 Thank you for hearing my story.

 any wisdom or insights will be appreciated.

 Blessings


 megan and Scrumptious and Luscious and Mama and Pookashay and Shallie Marie 
 and Breanne;
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Re: [Felvtalk] Purrayers for our Rosie

2011-02-21 Thread Heather Clark
You are in my purrayers, Rosie!  Your Mom and new fursiblings need you to be
the survivor.

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On Feb 21, 2011 5:59 PM, katskat1 katsk...@gmail.com wrote:

Comeon Rosie!  We are all pulling for you!  Listen to us and fight to
stay healthy so you can play with your new siblings.

Kat



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Re: [Felvtalk] A BIG THANK YOU

2011-02-18 Thread Heather
They are beautiful, what wonderful news!

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 To Jenine for adopting the 3 FELV+ kittens in Austin, Texas.  It took a bit
 of fancy footwork as we only had a few hours, but they are SAFE!  Yay!

 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

 Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
 http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

 Please help Trooper!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper


 And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
 can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
 should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

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Re: [Felvtalk] A BIG THANK YOU

2011-02-18 Thread Heather Clark
Great news!  There beautiful faces have been on my heart since I read
about them.  Bless you, Jenine!

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:10 PM, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Wonderful news!!!

 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] A BIG THANK YOU
 To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 5:53 PM
 To Jenine for adopting the 3 FELV+
 kittens in Austin, Texas.  It took a bit
 of fancy footwork as we only had a few hours, but they are
 SAFE!  Yay!

 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

 Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
 http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

 Please help Trooper!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper


 And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal
 lovers they
 can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the
 animals, that they
 should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
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Re: [Felvtalk] Osiris, Finn, Windsor and Orson Please Add to the CLS :(

2011-02-05 Thread Heather Clark
Sherry, my heart aches for.  One loss is devastating enough.  Bless you for
loving and caring for these sweet fur angels.  You were certainly an angel
to them.  I hope you are able to take solace at the thought of them romping
together at the rainbow bridge.  A candle is lit here in VA to help guide
them there.

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On Feb 5, 2011 9:47 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

What can I say we lost 4 more of our wonderful Sids kids tonight.Losing 5 in
2 days is VERY hard on all of us volunteers,not to mention Dr. Jen.
Osiris has been a part of my life ever since I started volunteering at
Sids.He was there before I started over 5 years ago.He was a beautiful sweet
soul,with the cutest face.He always took his everyday meds like a champ.I
will miss you Osee.
Finn,now he was a special guy in my heart. He had the most sweet crooked
head tilt(I am a sucker for tilts) I will forever remember his sweet loving
ways.
Windsr was a unique looking sweet boy who loved crawling into anybodys lap
he could find.
Orson was a VERY handsome siamese boy with beautiful blue eyes.He too was a
lover.
I will post pics on Facebook as I do for ALL our Sids kids...if anyone would
like to see them I am Sherry DeHaan...just send a friend request and tell me
you are from the yahoo group.I will try to post them later tonight when I
get home.
Thank you all for your support
Sherry

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(

2011-02-04 Thread Heather Clark
So sorry to hear of your loss.  A candle will be lit in VA to help him find
his way.

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On Feb 4, 2011 11:57 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
wrote:

So sorry to hear about your sweet Oatmeal Creme Pie! Rest in peace OCP!

We have 4 Snowshoes :-)

Peggy

2011/2/4 Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com


 Rest in peace Oatmeal Creme Pie. Sometimes there isn't anything we can do
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tweeze is gone.

2011-02-04 Thread Heather Clark
I wish there were words to help ease your pain.  Tweezer was a beautiful
happy boy who was so lucky to have you in his life.  Thank you for giving
him such a happy life.

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On Feb 4, 2011 10:54 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

I am SO sorry for your loss.Tweezer was a BEAUTIFUL boy.I cried watching
your video.I know the pain of losing babies to this awful disease.He was so
lucky to have had such great parents! And YOU were lucky to have had him to
love. Hugs to you.
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote:


From: Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com

Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweeze is gone.

To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:05 PM



Tweezer lost his battle with this horrible disease this afternoon.  He had
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Re: [Felvtalk] Is ther anything that can reverse the anemia?

2011-02-02 Thread Heather
I guess you are presuming this is non-regenerative, correct?

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 I am worried that my 4 year old FeLV+ kitty Tweezer may be anemic.  I will
 be taking him to the vet asap but am wondering if there is anything that
 can
 reverse the anemia once is starts.  I have lost two positive kitties
 already
 to anemia and I sure don't want to see it happen to Tweezer.  We bought
 Buzzy a few months with Doxycycline and Prednelolone but it's never enough
 time.  Does anyone know of anything that can reverse it?

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Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

2011-01-19 Thread Heather Wienker
I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a  
distance knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut'  
on this:) is that yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal'  
people the issue is that they are too preoccupied with their own  
lives) and the cat needs help which will likely require someone just  
taking the cat asap.  I totally understand you may not be able to do  
that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the importance of  
an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And  
'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much  
and will make every excuse in the world why they can't.  Or perhaps  
she really is just kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:(


Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue  
people say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one, but those are  
likely often some of the situations where the animal really needs  
help. I may be way wrong though!  It is so hard to guess what the heck  
is up with people much of the time but getting away from crazy people/ 
bad situations often seems to help the cats who the people claim are  
the ones with the problem (and they are, due to the people and all  
they've been through).


Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in.

yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years  
ago.  She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the  
relative again.  The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she  
doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the  
situation.  Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can  
provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As  
far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several  
years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the  
kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid  
and blood sugar.  It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles  
about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty  
here.

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From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM


Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have  
never
heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be  
embarrassed

to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my
suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to  
help
someone who is not being reasonable, it's not the cat's fault. I  
would go
over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the  
carrier won't
work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor  
cat? The
masturbation might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or  
infection. It
sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even  
know if
the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted  
to go
to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to  
cooperate.

Please go get him and let us know what you find out.
L

Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
deprive them

of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you,  
with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the  
traces

of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Emeraldkittee

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying  
relative
has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV.  She can't take him  
because of
the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own  
bunch.
 We've had a few conversations.  I have been told the following: the  
kitty
hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has  
always been
very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention  
because to
me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room  
he's in and
never attacks the other cats.  The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has  
been in

supposed perfect health.  There's never been an IFA or Western Blot.

I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge  
of their

health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could
certainly use their vet.  She 

Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

2011-01-19 Thread Heather Wienker
So this woman is a rescue type person?  How did you come into contact?  
Wonder if any local rescues or shelters know of her. It is all odd,  
could just be emotional issues.


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On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in.

yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years  
ago.  She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the  
relative again.  The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she  
doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the  
situation.  Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can  
provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As  
far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several  
years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the  
kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid  
and blood sugar.  It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles  
about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty  
here.

--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:


From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM


Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have  
never
heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be  
embarrassed

to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my
suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to  
help
someone who is not being reasonable, it's not the cat's fault. I  
would go
over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the  
carrier won't
work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor  
cat? The
masturbation might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or  
infection. It
sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even  
know if
the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted  
to go
to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to  
cooperate.

Please go get him and let us know what you find out.
L

Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
deprive them

of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you,  
with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the  
traces

of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Emeraldkittee

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)

An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying  
relative
has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV.  She can't take him  
because of
the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own  
bunch.
 We've had a few conversations.  I have been told the following: the  
kitty
hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has  
always been
very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention  
because to
me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room  
he's in and
never attacks the other cats.  The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has  
been in

supposed perfect health.  There's never been an IFA or Western Blot.

I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge  
of their

health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could
certainly use their vet.  She mentioned she no longer goes to that  
vet and
didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw  
blood'. Today
she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her  
permission
to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't  
know'.

It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there.


When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't  
like
carriers and might need a shot to be sedated.  That wasn't mentioned  
the

first few conversations.

Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me.  I know this  
person is
overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that.  
BUT.  I
am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation  
is, but
why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't  
lead to an
adoption?  She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but  
doesn't

know about doing this.

I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical
conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel  
I need
to see what's going on.  I got the 

Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative

2011-01-18 Thread Heather
Good for you Shannon!  You saved a life, and likely more there!

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I mentioned that one of the kitties we were going to look at for adoption
 never had an IFA test.  She’s been in a cage for a year at a shelter.  I had
 them do an IFA and she’s negative!  She’s a healthy, roly-poly adult,
 sweetie pie.  They actually thanked me for educating them and said they will
 follow a different testing protocol going forward.  I’m happy for this
 kitty.

 shannon



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Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative

2011-01-18 Thread Heather Wienker
Breaks my heart thinking of how many cats lives are ruined, or lost,  
based on a single test that might not even be correct.


Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com  
wrote:



Thanks, everyone :)  there's lots of educating to do!

--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:


From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:01 PM


:-) you are an angel in this kitty's life!!!

Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't  
deprive them

of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you,  
with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the  
traces

of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane  
Rosenfeldt

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative

Excellent! Bravo for this sweet kitty!

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Emeraldkittee

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative

I mentioned that one of the kitties we were going to look at for  
adoption
never had an IFA test.  She’s been in a cage for a year at a shelter 
.  I had
them do an IFA and she’s negative!  She’s a healthy, roly-poly  
adult,
sweetie pie.  They actually thanked me for educating them and said  
they will
follow a different testing protocol going forward.  I’m happy for th 
is

kitty.

shannon



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Re: [Felvtalk] Diet recommendations

2011-01-16 Thread Heather Clark
Thank you both for the advice!  I bought him some Blue Buffalo.  And I will
love and treasure him for as long as I can.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've switched my cats to Blue Buffalo and they seem to love the food and
 they have been healthier. They used to vomit randomly, but haven't since
 being on the new food. I also smudge of Nutri-Cal on their paw once a day,
 just so they get some extra vitamins.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Heather, I rescued a pair of FeLV kittens.  Sissy always had enlarged
 lymph nodes especially at her neck.  Rocket never did.  I tried several
 things but never helped.  I feed her the highest quality food she would eat
 supplemented with L-lysine, B12, folic acid.  I enjoyed 4 years with my
 sweet Sissy.
 
  Love and treasure Squiggy every day.  That really is the best medicine.
  Sharyl
 
 
  --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Heather Clark heatherjcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  From: Heather Clark heatherjcl...@gmail.com
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Diet recommendations
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 9:02 AM
 
 
  My boy, Squiggy, was diagnosed with feline leukemia about 6 months ago.
  He
  has stayed pretty healthy since, with just one secondary infection that
 was
  treated with antibiotics.  But the lymph nodes in his throat are swollen
 and
  stay that way all the time,  Sometimes they are larger than others but
 they
  are always swollen.  My vet doesn't seem concerned by this.  She just
 says
  it is a symptom of the FeLv.  But it concerns me becasue that is what
 made
  me take him to the vet 6 months ago.  His lymph nodes were swollen and he
  was having trouble breathing.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Is
 there
  anything I can do for him diet or medication wise to decrease the
 swelling?
  He also has a licking issue.  He will lick everything.  But when I had a
  bloodwork check on him the vet said it looked good.  That he was just
  slightly anemic but very good for a FeLv cat.  I feed him wet food in the
  morning and add Lysine powder and Missing Link to it.  Any other
  recommendations?  I would really appreciate any advice.  He is eating
 well
  and maintaining his weight but I want to stay as far ahead of the disease
 as
  I can.  I do some rescue work out of my house and lost a very young
 kitten
  to FeLv already.  Squiggy was rescued from a chemical plant but was such
 a
  standout sweet kitten that I couldn't bring myself to give him up.  Thank
  you for your help.
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[Felvtalk] Diet recommendations

2011-01-15 Thread Heather Clark
My boy, Squiggy, was diagnosed with feline leukemia about 6 months ago.  He
has stayed pretty healthy since, with just one secondary infection that was
treated with antibiotics.  But the lymph nodes in his throat are swollen and
stay that way all the time,  Sometimes they are larger than others but they
are always swollen.  My vet doesn't seem concerned by this.  She just says
it is a symptom of the FeLv.  But it concerns me becasue that is what made
me take him to the vet 6 months ago.  His lymph nodes were swollen and he
was having trouble breathing.  Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there
anything I can do for him diet or medication wise to decrease the swelling?
He also has a licking issue.  He will lick everything.  But when I had a
bloodwork check on him the vet said it looked good.  That he was just
slightly anemic but very good for a FeLv cat.  I feed him wet food in the
morning and add Lysine powder and Missing Link to it.  Any other
recommendations?  I would really appreciate any advice.  He is eating well
and maintaining his weight but I want to stay as far ahead of the disease as
I can.  I do some rescue work out of my house and lost a very young kitten
to FeLv already.  Squiggy was rescued from a chemical plant but was such a
standout sweet kitten that I couldn't bring myself to give him up.  Thank
you for your help.
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[Felvtalk] FELV+ Flame Point-Shortie Tail teen in Tampa, FL needs foster/home ASAP

2011-01-11 Thread Heather
 Hello,

I was not able to attach a picture, but please e-mail me if anyone would
like pics especially if you are able to help spread the word for this SUPER
sweet kitty Weasley.

Weasley has twice tested FELV+ on snap tests and the rescuer does not have
funds for an IFA.  It is a bit of a complicated story, my friend who rescued
him was volunteering at a high volume low-cost spay day when sweet little
Weasley was brought in, he had horrible scabies and the person who brought
him wouldn't keep him and he was going to be euthanized.   My friend took
him home, treated him for scabies (he was neutered at the clinic but not
tested), and came accross another rescue volunteer who wished to adopt him,
which she did but he since tested + for FELV twice and so she returned him.
Since his history is unknown, we do not know if he was born with it/infected
as a kitten or more recently as a teen on the streets.

My rescue friend is in a difficult situation, she is one who saves so many
cats that no one else steps up to help and is loaded with more than 30 cats
and fosters, including several very hard to place special needs cats
(including a somewhat traumatized, 4 paw declaw deaf white kitty who was
living on the streets and needs a home badly as well), and her young husband
is going through chemo for a brain tumor.  She is a graduate student with a
lot on her hands and mounting cat situations and has no where to keep this
sweet boy separate other than caged, she has to be careful since she has so
many fosters to be adopted out who can't be exposed.

Weasley is so sweet and described to have the personality of a puppy!  He
has a shortie tail, about 1/3 - 1/2 of a regular tail, making him even
cuter.  I was told he is about 6 months old.

If anyone in Florida can help find a foster or permanent home for Weasley,
they may contact me or my friend Olya @ olyagr...@gmail.com

Thanks for reading!

Heather
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-20 Thread Heather
My bf and I care for over 20 feral cat colonies a day (around 143 cats) and
what I see in the colonies is much more peaceful than what is going on in my
packed condo.   I do see some scuffles perhaps at larger colonies or those
in problematic spots, but most cohabitate pretty well though their
preference would be to each have their own feeding dish or pile of food
which is not always possible.  That's mainly when we see scuffles, or if an
unneutered male shows up (until they are done).

Of course once they finish eating, they've got all the room in the world to
spread out and ignore each other if desired so that is probably the key.

My place is a battle zone but it's definitely an issue of too little space.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 Wow, Lorrie, good for you for taking in 14 felines!
 I often wonder how these cat colonies one reads about manage, for I've
 never seen a totally peaceful group.  In my experience, everyone finds
 their spot where they are comfortable and secure, then that's it.  One
 furry body out of place and the whole bunch get in a tizzy.  But, as I told
 my little clan this morning while it was pouring rain outside, At least you
 guys are warm, dry, safe and don't have to hunt for your next meal.  So it
 beats the alternative!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along



 None of my cats sleep together either. They are affectionate with me,
 but not each other. They either ignore each other or have hiss, spit,
 yowling arguments along with a few well placed swats at each other.

 I wonder if this is because all 14 of my cats were rescues who all
 arrived here at different times. None of them were kittens who grew
 up together, tho some were kittens when I took them in. The kittens
 are accepted better by the others, and the most difficult cats to
 introduce are grown males who remain a threat to my other males even
 tho they've been neutered immediately.  Our house is large, and they
 have plenty of room, toys, climbing trees, cat condos as well as port
 holes to three outside enclosures.  You'd think this would make them
 happy, but the tension in our household is ongoing, unless all 14
 happen to be sleeping at the same time :-(

 Lorrie

 On 12-15, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 Beverly
 Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and
 I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The most recent one was
 Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are
 tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan
 (she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more
 accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the
 couch or my bed, or playing together.  Sigh. Thanks for another
 perspective! Bonnie


 - Original Message - From: Beverly

 Hi Bonnie,
 
 I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have
 five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small
 apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and
 play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't
 think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my
 friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.
 
 It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of
 a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy
 relationship.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Beverly


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLv alternative treatment

2010-12-13 Thread Heather
On the cancer list I heard of a product called ES Clear, it has Slippery
Elm,  Chinese Rhubarb and a couple of other ingredients.  Several have
indicated they felt it helped their kitties quality of life--it is indicated
for cancer, but, mentioning in case it might have general use (since I'm
sure it's not actually a cure for cancer).

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 So far, I have come across only these alternatives from Dr. McDougall.

 Hasn't someone posted some herbal stuff, a tonic, a few months ago?




 http://www.herbal-treatments.net/alternative-cat-treatments/leukemia-virus-f
 elv.html  - at the very bottom, herbal treatments are suggested. You can
 contact them regarding these herbs; I have.



 http://www.catconnection.net/care/flv.php  - very basic info on FeLV



 Natalie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.

2010-12-09 Thread Heather
Well chances are it is negative, I do high volume rescue and have to say
honestly I don't think I've done a second test on any of my own that I've
kept (I don't mean that's a good thing or anything).   I don't even live in
a house so know how it is dealing with segregating (I have kittens in both
bathrooms right now and much of the time).

I just know this is a place where most on the list are interested in the
various possibilities and experiences others have had with testing and
such, so we tend to share those, it's just not a perfect or predictable
world.

 So maybe something positive has already happened!   And if not but you are
able to find the kitten a good home--that is still a very positive thing.
But sounds like you are taken with the kiddo so hope it works out:-)


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peggy Verdonck
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comwrote:

 I understand and I'm very aware of that. I guess I just want this kitten to
 have a good home but it might not be with us.
 I lost 3 cats in this past year (only one to Felv) and I am just so ready
 for something positive to happen in this household. A new kitten is such a
 joy, but maybe not under these circumstances. It is to soon I'm afraid.
 Still waiting to hear back from my vet, and then I will make my final
 decision on what to do with this kitten.

 My other cats were exposed to my Felv+ cat (we just didn't know, until she
 got sick) for almost a year and every single one of them tested negative in
 the first test.

 2010/12/8 Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com

  My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8
  months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another
 cat.
  She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never
 came
  home showing signs of a fight.
 
  Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when
  she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother.
 
  So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also
  possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they
 recommend
  retesting even for negatives.
 
  Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   My other cats are all negative!
  
   But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right?  I know
   about false positives being common, but not false negatives.
  
   What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine?
  
   Thanks for your time!
  
   Peggy
  
   2010/12/8 Natalie at...@optonline.net
  
   You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will
 be
   correct, or a false positive...
   If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward
  at
   our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy
 improves.
   Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV?
   If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use
 FeLV
   vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are
  only
   80% effective)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy
  Verdonck
   Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
  
   He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his
 body
   parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that.
  
   What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay?
  
   I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription
  and
   I
   will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an
   email,
   and waiting on her answer!
  
   Thanks for your input!
  
  
  
   2010/12/8 Natalie at...@optonline.net
  
   It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can
   have
   false results.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy
  Verdonck
   Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
  
   About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv.
   She
   went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week
   later.
   She was suffering!
   We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested
 the
   same
   day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living
  with
   Oreo for almost a year!
   To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while.
  
   The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday
 evening.
   Found
   him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to
   take
   him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold.
   He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.

2010-12-08 Thread Heather Wienker

Hi Peggy,

Here is an example, when I rescued a double positive Mama and her  
kittens, at first (6 weeks old, and pulled from Mom at that point) 2  
tested double positive, the other two positive for Fiv only. A vet and  
another rescuer told me that with kittens from an felv+ Mom sometimes  
they will teat negative at first but then 'go positive'-which  
unfortunatelybdid happen in this case. The ones that initially tested  
+ for fiv only, did go on to test + for felv ( but all cleared the  
fiv) on multiple tests.  All of her kittens succumbed by 6 months to  
just over a year of age, but 3.5 years later, Mama is still going.


There is no rule I don't think, this is just an example of how a  
kitten can test negative then turn out to be felv+ after all.  And the  
opposite can happen as well!


Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:

My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she  
was 8 months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with  
another cat. She was only out for very short periods close by the  
house. She never came home showing signs of a fight.


Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus  
when she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother.


So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is  
also possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why  
they recommend retesting even for negatives.


Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



My other cats are all negative!

But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right?  I  
know

about false positives being common, but not false negatives.

What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine?

Thanks for your time!

Peggy

2010/12/8 Natalie at...@optonline.net

You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result  
will be

correct, or a false positive...
If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation  
ward at
our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy  
improves.

Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV?
If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use  
FeLV
vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines,  
are only

80% effective)

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy  
Verdonck

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.

He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his  
body

parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that.

What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay?

I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a  
prescription and

I
will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet,  
an

email,
and waiting on her answer!

Thanks for your input!



2010/12/8 Natalie at...@optonline.net

It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests  
can

have

false results.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy  
Verdonck

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.

About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on  
Felv.

She
went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a  
week

later.

She was suffering!
We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all  
tested the

same
day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after  
living with

Oreo for almost a year!
To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while.

The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday  
evening.

Found
him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and  
decided to

take
him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing  
cold.

He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest.
My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to  
have him
tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and  
integrate

into

the group in about 2 weeks.
Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small  
chance

that

there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing!

We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it  
appears

to

be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion

2010-12-06 Thread Heather Wienker
If no nebulizer you cam do a humidifier or sit kitty in a carrier/ 
bathroom with hot steamy shower. Not as good as a nebulizer but it's  
been suggested to me before.


Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^=

On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote:

As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is  
extremely congested.  The vet has given him antibiotics and anti- 
inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating,  
I am having trouble getting them into him.  I have very limited  
access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade  
using easily accessible ingredients.  I read something about saline  
drops or using children's Afrin.  Does anyone have any suggestions?


Thank you,
Melinda and VooDoo


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Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky's chest cavity fluid - rutin?

2010-11-24 Thread Heather
Rutin was suggested to me for our Mama cat who was in CHF and did have fluid
that was drained--if the Rutin was suggested specifically to help or prevent
fluid accumulation, I did not realize it (she was also on Lasix), but it's
possible--I thought it was supposed to be helpful to the heart in general.
Sorry I do not have the dosage:(   I think you can buy it at vitamin stores?

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi:

 Regarding my previous post about Spanky's fluid in his chest cavity - I
 seem to recall someone was using rutin for fluid - Alice for her Murphy
 maybe? Please let me know if anyone has used it, dosage, where to buy it and
 if it would help at all and provide him some relief without a chest tab. I
 just read an article on the ncbi website about it.

 Thanks
 Stacy and Spanky
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Re: [Felvtalk] Caesar Please add to the CLS :(

2010-11-22 Thread Heather Clark
I am so sorry for your loss.  Caesar felt your love and it made his life
better.  I will light a candle in VA to help him on his way.

On Nov 22, 2010 8:41 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

What can I say about this BEAUTIFUL sweet boy,he had the softest most gentle
look in his eyes ALWAYS. And he knew out of ALL the Sids kids he was extra
special to my heart.I got to spend some time with him after my shift
Saturday,and deep in my heart I knew I was not going to see him again.I had
such a hard time leaving that night.I could NOT give him enough kisses on
his beautiful black and white face or tell him I loved him enough times.He
knew he was my special baby.As you all know I love all the Sids kids,but
some melt into your heart just a little more. My heart is so heavy tonight.
:(
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way



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Re: [Felvtalk] periactin/cyproheptadine

2010-11-02 Thread Heather
I had used Cypro before without problems and know it is used widely, but did
notice that some people on the CRF had cats with sensitivities to it.  I
recently tried it for my 15 year old cat and was really glad my vet
suggested trying 1/4 (rather than 1/2 which had always been suggested
before) as it seemed to make her irritable and not feel very good, she was
very vocal.

I think I would definitely start with the lower dose of 1/4.   I've never
heard of it being used 3 times a day, but that doesn't mean it isn't ever
used that frequently.   There is another, Mirtazapine, that I think usually
is used every 3 days.

Good luck!

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi
 My vet just prescribed Spanky with this for an appetite stimulant.  He said
 the recommended dosage is 1/2 tablet 1-3x a day. Others have said they gave
 1/4 of a tablet every few days.  I'm just wondering about side effects
 (drowsiness) and what others have given as a dosage or their experience with
 it.  I asked him about the liquid form and he said I would have to give 5ccs
 to get the 1tsp dosage so I'll give him the pill form in a gel cap.

 Thanks so much,
 Stacy
 stacy_zac...@yahoo.com

 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:24:17 -0400
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how do you search the felv archives?
 Message-ID: 0dd101cb79f1$feae34e0$fc0a9e...@net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Sorry, I can't give you info on how to search archives, but I can tell you
 to give Spanky CoQ10 for keeping gums and heart and much more in good
 shape.
 Get the GNC Vegetarian formula; it comes in powder form in capsules - give
 50mg daily, sprinkled into food (tasteless). All my FIV/FeLV positive and
 heart patient cats get it daily - really works wonders!  If the
 antihistamine Periactin in liquid form is still available, it's great for
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Re: [Felvtalk] Calcitriol

2010-10-26 Thread Heather
There is also a Yahoo group for Calicitriol discussion.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Calcitriol+for+cats - lots
 of
 info on this page

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Calcitriol

 What is Calcitriol?  It was not suggested by my vet when my
 16 year old cat had CRF.


 On 10-25, Natalie wrote:
  I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite
  diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't
 drink
  enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated.  I've also had an
 older
  cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his
  sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive
 the
  same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol,
  their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer,
  without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.

2010-10-26 Thread Heather Clark
My heart is breaking for you as I read this.  I really felt as though I knew
Murphy through your posts.  I was always anxious to hear how he was doing
and praying for his health.  You are truely an angel for the care you have
given these babies.  They were all blessed to have you.  I will light a
candle in Midlothian, VA for Murphy.  And I will keep Rosie in my prayers.

On Oct 26, 2010 3:52 PM, dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote:

Alice, I'm so sorry to hear Murphy passed. He was lucky to have you. It
sounds like he loved you a lot. And you obviously loved him, and was solidly
there for him when he needed you.

I also wanted to thank you so much for sharing the details of his final days
- for me, as a first time Felv+/FIV+ cat owner,  that has been one of the
things I have most been scared of because I have never experienced the death
of an animal and I'm terrified because I'm still trying to understand the
progression of what happens, and am worried and ignorant of how to prepare
for it.  Thank you for shedding a little light on the subject, and in the
process helping me, and others like me attempt to emotionally prepare for
the day we all hope never comes.







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 Alice
 It saddens m...
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

2010-10-11 Thread Heather
I just bought Lysine treats from my vet, I had heard some cats hated them
but have had pretty good luck so far--though they need to eat many so might
get tired of them quickly, and, they are expensive, $20 a pouch.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Bonnie, I don't know what buffers are used with the tablets.  I buy the
 pure L-lysine powder from www.iHerbs.com http://www.iherbs.com/.  That
 way I don't have to worry about reactions to buffering agents.  It comes in
 a 1 lb jar.  I use 1/4 tsp (250 mg) per qt. of water or per one 5.5 oz can
 of food.
 Sharyl

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  From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 11:50 AM
   Have been reading lately on here
  about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a tablet very well (I
  have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and we
  had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.
  Poor guy vomited it right up -- I mean, back into the feed
  dishes!
  So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to
  half a tab (about 250 mg)?
  Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to
  L-Lysine?  Ideas?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Update on our Lydia

2010-10-05 Thread Heather
It sounds like she is very jaundiced? (yellow)   Is she being treated?
Sounds like liver failure/hepatic lipidosis.   This is treatable, but
often deadly if not treated immediately  carefullyit is usually a
somewhat long road to stabilize I believe, though have heard or one or two
making great improvements within a couple of weeks.

Usually they would need to be force feed or have a feeding tube, and would
be an a SAME based med, such as Denosyl or Denamarin.  My vet in these cases
has prescribed  a cocktail including other supplements such as arginine
and cartinine...I can't recall what else, and of course don't know what
specifics in the bloodwork may or may not call for particular supplements.

Please pardon if I missed something, as I see mention of her eating on her
own, just worried since it sounds like she is jaundiced, if that was being
treatedI'm at work so read quickly, but if she is jaundiced she
definitely needs to be treated.   Caution in amounts is imperative, there is
an excellent Yahoo group for feline assist feeding I have seen mentioned on
this website, if that is needed.

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Anndrea DeLozier unspecifie...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh, I guess I hadn't put her name in the first message, so I can see why
 people don't know what I'm talking about :)



 The heading was:

 [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV



 My name came up as:

 A D



 And it was posted:
 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:26:52 -0700



 Anyway, any idea how much Pet Tinic I should give her?



 Any thoughts on an iron supplement? Liquid seems to be the way to go :)



 Also, and I hope I don't sound too dumb.but can kitty have human blood in a
 transfusion?



 And/Or, can her sister (if she's FeLV negative) donate blood to her?
 Biological sister, not adopted sister :)



 Would a vet do a transfusion from one cat to another? Any idea if it would
 be extremely expensive?



 We are going to be moving 1400 miles away, and we leave on the 15th. It'll
 take a few days to get there. I know that will be stressful on her, is
 there
 anything I can do to make it any less stressful? Like if she rides on
 someone's lap instead of in a crate.or get one of those calming collars
 I've seen at Walmart.? They have some kind of pheromone or something on
 them, I think.?



 There will be other cats in crates, and 2 dogs possibly in crates, possibly
 not, but the dogs and this cat get along very well.



 She has continued to eat baby food.not a ton, but some.and she urinated the
 other day (on the floor - missed the box, I guess) and it was a very
 string yellow color, but not orange, brown, or red.like a.hi-liter
 yellow,
 but really concentrated. Like if you hi-lited the same spot on a piece of
 paper over and over.hope that makes some sense.lol.



 She's still real yellow-skinned (and paw pads and nose and gums). She has
 been more alert the last few days, but still not active much.



 The vet she saw was very sure that she won't make it. He kept saying he has
 seen cats with the levels in her bloodwork, and it never turns out good. I
 don't expect a miracle (thought it would be nice), but if she can live for
 a
 while, and not be in pain or discomfort, I have to try.ya know?



 If she makes it until the 15th, and makes the trip, I will be looking for a
 vet that is maybe a bit more optimistic.but realistic, too.



 Oh.and guess what? She was purring for me the other morning :) That was the
 first time I'd heard/felt that in a while.



 She seems to not want to be warm. She won't stay under the covers at night
 like she used to, prefers the bare wood floor to the soft beds, and we even
 found her in the empty bathtub yesterday.  Most of her day is spent in the
 top of a tall laundry basket, laying on a fleece blanket. At night she
 sleeps at the foot of our bed.



 Anyway, any more info, encouragement, ideas, etc. are greatly appreciated
 :)



 ~Anndrea

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlie to the CLS list

2010-09-15 Thread Heather Clark
What a sweet and precious angel.  I candle will be lit in VA tonight to help
him find his way.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Charlie was a little Flame Pt. Siamese mix kitten with Medium super soft
 hair. He was a joy to have around  purred constantly. Charlie
  lost his battle with FeLV this morning. He had been going down hill for
  a week or so, but had a good night last night where his rescue mom got
 to visit  he ate almost a whole jar of baby food. This morning,
 however, he hardly ate anything, even with an appetite stimulant. His
 3rd eyelids were up  he would have to rest after walking only a few
  feet. He was not in my life for long, but he made a big
 impression on me  his rescue mom. We love you little boy!You can see pics
 of Charlie on the FeLV Cats FD page at: http://tinyurl.com/27gdqas

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Re: [Felvtalk] please add Tiger to the CLS

2010-09-02 Thread Heather Clark
A candle will burn in Richmond, VA for Tiger.  Tiger didn't blame you, you
cant blame yourself.  They are so good at hiding their sickness.  It is hard
to notice when they don't have physical symptoms.  He knows he was loved!

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Tiger didn't have FeLV, but he passed away last night, much too soon. He
 was thirteen. I'd had him for three years.  He was always a gentleman  a
 loving, sweet boy. Three weeks ago we went to the vet. Something was wrong;
 he was sluggish and not eating well. It turns out he had a large abcess in
 his throat. The abcess was lanced, a whole lot of dead tissue was removed,
 we were sent home with antibiotics and everyone thought things would be
 fine. They weren't - there was a second vet visit last Monday, the abcess
 was drained again  he was given more fluids. Tiger was hospitalized this
 Monday. The abcess wouldn't clear up, and even though he was given a
 stronger antibiotic he just couldn't fight the infection. I visited him
 yesterday and he ate for me and purred and purred. I didn't want to get my
 hopes up too high, but I still wasn't expecting my vet to call this morning
  give me the news that he'd died. I thought maybe we had a little bit of a
  chance. It turns out that Tiger had a hole in his esophagus; he must have
 ingested something that cut him. I would give anything to have him back with
 me.
 I wish I had taken him in sooner. He'd been quiet this summer, and not
 sleeping with me at night like he normally did, but everybody was quiet this
 summer because the house was so warm. Nobody else was snuggling with me on
 the bed either. I didn't pick up on the little signs that he wasn't feeling
 well. If I had, he might still be alive today.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-31 Thread Heather
Yes, she will be spayed regardless of the outcome, we've spayed/neutered all
FELV+ rescues in the past but wanted to wait till her restet, she is not
with any other cats so we will retest  spay her soon.

Thank you all for the input!!!

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Heather I went through this with my 1st FeLV. I was hesitant to spay her,
 but when she went into heat (I'd never seen ANY cat in heat before) I
 figured the stress of that was far worse than the stress of the spay. She
 needs to be spayed regardless of the outcome of the retest.
 Beth
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 From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:15 PM

 Hello,

 Seeking input...we have a beautiful young Siamese rescue kitty who tested
 FIV/FELV positive (the FELV was that controversial light positive) and is
 awaiting retest, of course we did not want to stress her immune system so
 were waiting to spay her (just found her a couple of weeks ago) but I was
 worried this would likely happen, she is in heat.  I would guess that is
 also a stress to her system, but am not really sure what we should do.

 I am a rescuer  highly involved with feral cats/TNR so spay/neuter is
 always a priority but of course the hopes of clearing the FELV is right now
 the biggest hope for this little girl's lifeany input is appreciated.
 I
 asked my vet and she really wasn't certain what to advise  is going to get
 back to me.

 Thanks!

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[Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-27 Thread Heather
Hello,

Seeking input...we have a beautiful young Siamese rescue kitty who tested
FIV/FELV positive (the FELV was that controversial light positive) and is
awaiting retest, of course we did not want to stress her immune system so
were waiting to spay her (just found her a couple of weeks ago) but I was
worried this would likely happen, she is in heat.  I would guess that is
also a stress to her system, but am not really sure what we should do.

I am a rescuer  highly involved with feral cats/TNR so spay/neuter is
always a priority but of course the hopes of clearing the FELV is right now
the biggest hope for this little girl's lifeany input is appreciated.  I
asked my vet and she really wasn't certain what to advise  is going to get
back to me.

Thanks!

Heather
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-27 Thread Heather
Thank you both VERY much for this extremely helpful input--and for
a quick answer for now on one important aspect I absolutely agree on, we
only test rescues/friendlies who we are trying to find homes for, or ferals
who are being treated for serious medical conditions/seeking indoor
placement, etc.  We do not routinely test TNR ferals  also discourage the
practice of doing so, or ever test TNR ferals unless they might not be going
back out or sometimes on a cat in really bad shape the clinic might insist
on it  pay for it (still leaving any decisions to us).

My vet has helped us with a number of FIV  FELV+ cats but I guess the
situation of one in heat when awaiting retesting hasn't come up before.

It has only been 2 weeks since she was first tested but I also considered
just going ahead and re-testing now and using that info to decide on whether
to proceed with spay or not.  I just didn't want to jinx myself by retesting
so soon (I know, jinxes are not scientific so it sounds silly, but my life
seems to so full of them or just bad luck that I worry!)

This sweet little kitty also has a huge objection to the drawing of
blood...it is quite stressful for her.  I'm at work so will re-read  read
the links, thanks for sending!

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:36 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.comwrote:

 if she was tested on the new HW/FIV/FeLV test, you cannot trust the
 result. find a vet who has a stock of the old, FIV/FeLV-only test--if
 you can find one, and retest NOW. in checking with MANY rescues and
 shelters across the country, we have only found one true positive in
 any cat tested with the new test: way below the natural distribution.

 if you do that, the rest of your questions will be moot.

 BUT:

 here's the info on the faint/slight positives, directly from IDEXX,
 who held the exclusive patent on the SNAP technology til last november
 (tho i'm not sure how come there were cheaper, less accurate tests out
 there...) http://tinyurl.com/No-Faint-Positives

 a cat doesn't clear the virus so much as not truly become
 infected--the ELISA and IFA test for exposure (antigens), not
 infection (antibodies).

 send your vet this link (after thanking her PROFUSELY for caring
 enough to look into it): http://tinyurl.com/AAFP-Retrovirus-Guidelines

 she sounds like a great vet, and she'll probably check out the merck
 veterinary manual that talks about how many cats do NOT remain
 viremic. i've posted that before, so an archive check will bring it up.

 some folks think that the stress of pregnancy and nursing is much
 greater on a FeLV mom than that of spaying. but first you need to find
 out if she's REALLY testing positive for exposure.

 have you all read the guidelines about testing/re-releasing true
 FIV/FeLV positives? many TNR groups no longer bother testing, they
 just treat all asymptomatic cats as that: healthy cats. last time i
 looked it up, i just did it through a search engine.

 wordy as ever,
 MC
 --
 Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
 Maybe That'll Make The Difference

 MaryChristine
 Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org
 )
 Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)





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  Hello,
 
  Seeking input...we have a beautiful young Siamese rescue kitty who tested
  FIV/FELV positive

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?

2010-08-27 Thread Heather
This is very helpful Michelle, thank you!!!

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Michelle Brockman teals...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Hi Heather,

 I also do TNR so I know where you're coming from. We actually had this same
 situation happen to us a couple months ago with our 5 mo old kitten we
 plucked from a colony that tested 'light' positive. We only test ferals if
 we can find them a home (like kittens). Anyway, our vet said that since we
 were keeping her indoors and secluded it would be best to NOT spay her until
 we retest in 2 months because the spay and vaccines WOULD weaken the immune
 system further. And if she did test postive after the the 2 months he
 suggested not spaying her at all and just keeping her indoors.

 Thankfully she tested negative after the two months and did get spayed but
 the urgency from the vet was to not do anything that would 'shock' her
 system and make her immune system weaker.

 Hope this helps!



 Michelle Brockman
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  Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:15:43 -0400
  From: furrygi...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FIV/FELV teen awaiting retest, in heat--Do we spay?
  
  Hello,
 
  Seeking input...we have a beautiful young Siamese rescue kitty who tested
  FIV/FELV positive (the FELV was that controversial light positive) and
 is
  awaiting retest, of course we did not want to stress her immune system so
  were waiting to spay her (just found her a couple of weeks ago) but I was
  worried this would likely happen, she is in heat. I would guess that is
  also a stress to her system, but am not really sure what we should do.
 
  I am a rescuer  highly involved with feral cats/TNR so spay/neuter is
  always a priority but of course the hopes of clearing the FELV is right
 now
  the biggest hope for this little girl's lifeany input is appreciated.
 I
  asked my vet and she really wasn't certain what to advise  is going to
 get
  back to me.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Heather
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[Felvtalk] Please add Theo to CLC list

2010-08-24 Thread Heather Clark
This sweet little orange baby was found starving in a ditch at a  few weeks
old.  We got him as well as we could but he never managed to be symptom
free.  We gave him lots of love and hopefully made his short life better.
 He succumbed to his illness today at only five months old.  It's amazing
how much they touch your hearts in such a short time.
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[Felvtalk] Hmm. Hygm.nib.bh. heyu

2010-08-24 Thread Heather Clark
Bj
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[Felvtalk] mailing list

2010-08-14 Thread Heather Hurst
Take me off your email list

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[Felvtalk] Fwd: OT-deaf/blind dog at Houston kill shelter

2010-07-16 Thread Heather
I am sorry, this is so OT, but I recall there may be some Texas rescue
contacts on this list so hope that, in the interest of this special pup, it
is ok I post her in case anyone can help get the word out in Houston/Tx.

Thank you!

-- Forwarded message --
From: Olya Grove
Date: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Subject: please cross post!

sad doggie at Animal Services in Houston TX  really needs help
http://deafanimals.blogspot.com/2010/07/houston-tx-deafblind-miniature-pinscher.html

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