Re: [FRIAM] Analog Computing Theory

2010-03-27 Thread sarbajit roy
, on inappropriate machines. Analog computers IMO could include many practical (but now obsolete) devices like a) analog PID controllers b) firing trajectory controllers c) range finders etc. Sarbajit Roy On 3/25/10, Tom Carter t...@astarte.csustan.edu wrote: Owen - An interesting paper on some

Re: [FRIAM] holism vs. reductionism, again

2010-04-01 Thread sarbajit roy
Hi Glen The reason my points were phrased that way was due to the subject of this thread. The vs. paints holism / reductionism as a black vs white fight, whereas there is a whole spectrum (and not only of grays) in between (and beyond) not necessarily in coonflict (Ebony and Ivory ..). Just FYI,

Re: [FRIAM] New Blood!

2010-04-02 Thread sarbajit roy
institute 1984 foundation as an important milestone in the time line. (Incidentally a timeline which conveniently skips the Rig Veda .. among other works .. which predates his oxygen thesis of page 257 virtually word for word). On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:41 PM, sarbajit roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks

Re: [FRIAM] leadership in flocks

2010-04-09 Thread sarbajit roy
The religious grouping I belong to had cause to study/discuss this about 150 years back (concerning flocks of men not birds). The leader of the faction in opposition to mine (which means my faction vehemently disagrees with his view) had this to say Source:

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

2010-04-25 Thread sarbajit roy
If I start from the Wikipedia definition of theorem -- *In mathematics, a theorem is a statement which has been proved on the basis of previously established statements, such as other theorems, and previously accepted statements, such as axioms.* I end up looking at a house of cards which will

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

2010-04-26 Thread sarbajit roy
Actually I can follow Glen's line of reasoning (I think). For example, the way Maths works is that a theorem is proved by trying to prove a conjecture. When that approach fails you end up proving a special case of the conjecture - which in turn gets elevated to its own status as a theorem.

Re: [FRIAM] PLEASE DON'T READ Nick's post: Schroedinger's What is Life?

2010-04-27 Thread sarbajit roy
Hi Steve The chances of drawing a glass without any marked molecules is 1/1000, supporting ES's claim. I don't think the maths works quite that way. Some glasses would have exactly 1000 molecules, some would have 1000 -/+ 1, or 2 .. -/+999. Presuming that the distribution is a normal

Re: [FRIAM] Palenque, Chichen Itza and Katyn

2010-04-28 Thread sarbajit roy
Hi Eric Your observation / suggestion is brutally accurate and civilised brutality is an index of how far the civilisation has advanced in its life cycle. In my particular civilisation brutality is institutionalised as follows - 'saam daam dand bhed' (sometimes attributed to Chanakya - India's

Re: [FRIAM] Palenque, Chichen Itza and Katyn

2010-04-30 Thread sarbajit roy
Hi Where would one place say the Taj Mahal in the context of the Mughal (alternatively Indo-Islamic) civilisation's ascendancy? Or the Eiffel Tower in the context of French (alternatively Gallic) civilisation? Mr Sabloff's observation reminds me of the old saw, A priest, a scientist and a

Re: [FRIAM] Econ

2010-04-30 Thread sarbajit roy
There are literally hundreds of books on Intelligent Design / Creationism / Origins of life - the universe - everything all attempting to use Shannon's theories as props to hang their arguments on. Its a whole pop culture in the USA which keeps observers like me on other planets highly amused /

Re: [FRIAM] Thoughts on Flash

2010-05-01 Thread sarbajit roy
Dear Owen, I would like to disagree with some aspects of your post The one deep issue which goes out clearly from Steve Job's essay is that Apple is deeply against cross platform applications. As I mentioned in an earlier post the only time I''ve ever used an Apple software product is a really

Re: [FRIAM] Schroedinger redux

2010-05-03 Thread sarbajit roy
Dear Nicholas The foundation of your construct is that North Blandia consists of 10 counties with 10,000 people in each. The problem is what happens to the people in the other 9 counties - where do they go looking for work if there is no work in Blather county - how do you maintain your

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

2010-05-08 Thread sarbajit roy
Is it just me ? I'm unable to extract any meaningful information from this quote which correlates to the subsequent analysis. Would the man on the Clapham omnibus start from Dr Suess's Fox in Socks on Knox in Box and end up postulating that Schroedingers Fox is half alive in a Box in Fort Knox,

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-09 Thread sarbajit roy
Seems to be an over-hyped silicone 1-component variant of something we've been using for years - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7tl0--7g (I use http://google.co.in .. so this is what it threw up when I searched for magic putty http://shoesoles.co.in) On second thoughts its probably 2 component

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us, a very cool+useful new material

2010-05-10 Thread sarbajit roy
) liberal use of social networking tools (twitter, blogs, youtube), 3) create scarcity (first batch all sold out...register to be notified). If they are half the materials geniuses that they are marketing geniuses On 10 May 2010 03:48, sarbajit roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to be an over

Re: [FRIAM] For the programmers amongst us

2010-05-11 Thread sarbajit roy
My favourite is 1964 - John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz create BASIC, an unstructured programming language for non-computer scientists. 1965 - Kemeny and Kurtz go to 1964. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at

Re: [FRIAM] A model of biblical proportions

2010-05-12 Thread sarbajit roy
Unlikely, Image #8 has this quote from the constructor .. there are 32 versions of Jesus, although no one can ever spot him no matter how religious they are On 5/11/10, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: That's going to generate some serious model validation work! ;-} --Doug

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

2010-05-14 Thread sarbajit roy
Dear Group, As a non-US member I also find this interesting. As an ordinary citizen who has personally argued and won some cases before the Supreme Court of my country (India) on Free Speech issues (one coincidentally involving large corporations and television broadcasting), I was actually

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

2010-05-14 Thread sarbajit roy
Thanks The way I understand it (and this is common in both our democracies) is 1) Citizens have a Fundamental ( inalienable) right to freedom of Speech and Expression. 2) It is trite to say (and legally well settled) that this right is predicate upon the right to Freedom of Information. ie. a

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

2010-05-16 Thread sarbajit roy
for that matter (and not endorse or expand them). There's a novel idea! Thanks Robert On 5/15/10 11:49 AM, sarbajit roy wrote: Dear Robert 1) Disbanding corporates and handing power back to the people is commonly understood to be communism. snipped

[FRIAM] 48 hours in a day ?: Exponentially increasing active multi-tasking vs. passive networking

2010-05-17 Thread sarbajit roy
A 2009 whitepaper set from Cisco on Hyperconnectivity and the approaching Zettabyte era says It is passive networking more than multitasking that allows the growth of traffic to outpace any change in behavior. ..For every hour of an Internet user’s day, there are over 2 hours of P2P traffic, and

Re: [FRIAM] GDP vs National Debt by Country |

2010-05-17 Thread sarbajit roy
The measure of national debt to GDP, is a very coarse measure and doesn't mean very much except to contain panic and reassure people in troubled economies. For instance we can compare the net savings rate situation where the US which was traditionally -ve and which has only reached positive

Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] AppleInsider | Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia

2010-05-19 Thread sarbajit roy
The first thing Apple should considering change is the name - cross-cultural sensitivities.. Gianduia is akin to an Indian abusive word that means bugger On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote: Here's a little linked verse on the general subject from someone saying

Re: [FRIAM] vol 83m issue22

2010-05-20 Thread sarbajit roy
). Interesting comparative reading : http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/faq/faq_mcc.pdf Sarbajit On 5/19/10, peggy miller highlandwi...@gmail.com wrote: quoting sarbajit roy: As an ordinary citizen who has personally argued and won some cases before the Supreme Court of my country (India) on Free Speech issues

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

2010-05-23 Thread sarbajit roy
Conan O’Brien slams Arizona racists with Pac-Man 30th anniversary joke http://www.beatweek.com/news/6187-conan-obrien-slams-arizona-racists-with-pac-man-30th-anniversary-joke/ May 22, 2010 Conan O’Brien used today’s thirtieth anniversary of the Pac-Man arcade game to poke fun at the white

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

2010-07-10 Thread sarbajit roy
How is selective breeding / clustering to optimise particular traits in chickens any different from endogamous human clusters / societies? In India for eg. the endgamous caste and sub-caste systems have been in place for millenia to ensure genetic optimisation and perpetuation of a few desirable

Re: [FRIAM] bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK promote? Steve Randall: Rich Murray 2010.08.14

2010-08-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi, I'm sorry, but what is this ? Its Yoga, not as we know it Jim. Sarbajit On 8/15/10, Rich Murray rmfor...@comcast.net wrote: bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK promote? Steve Randall: Rich Murray 2010.08.14 [ re

Re: [FRIAM] bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK promote? Steve Randall: Rich Murray 2010.08.14

2010-08-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: Hi, I'm sorry, but what is this ? Its Yoga, not as we know it Jim. Sarbajit On 8/15/10, Rich Murray rmfor...@comcast.net wrote: bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK

Re: [FRIAM] bold concepts re practical unity awareness: Fw: [tsk] What's TSK inquiry, and what 'new core values' might TSK promote? Steve Randall: Rich Murray 2010.08.14

2010-08-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
What is a mountain ? Sarbajit PS: Sorry for the lag in replying - time zones. Please include me if this goes off-list. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.comwrote: There are many paths up the mountain. Tory

Re: [FRIAM] Evaluating Expressions, part 2 – Con ditional Special Form

2010-09-05 Thread Sarbajit Roy
The link to part 1 is at the bottom of part-2 Anyway here it is again http://www.dalnefre.com/wp/2010/08/evaluating-expressions-part-1-core-lambda-calculus/ On 9/5/10, michael barron mhbar...@gmail.com wrote: Dale:Do you have the link to part one? If so can you post it regards michael barron

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAMer /. alert

2010-09-07 Thread Sarbajit Roy
If there were no metals you would not have a periodic table. On 9/7/10, Jochen Fromm jfr...@t-online.de wrote: Therefore it would be interesting if metal-organic structures have a deeper role in the history of life. At least one can say that without metals in the periodic table, no life as we

Re: [FRIAM] national debt and zero-sum games

2010-10-07 Thread Sarbajit Roy
He is correct, with one unspoken addition: You can't go broke if you can print your own money AND the creditor will accept it. If you have a bookie who accepts RopellaBucks and pays in green backs, you will be good forever! If Greece can borrow dollars and pay in their own currency, same deal.

Re: [FRIAM] Friday 2011.01.14 demo seen by 50 of Focardi-Rossi HNi cold fusion with heat 1 hr, translation of Italian reporter: Rich Murray 2010.11.14

2011-01-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41289.html On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Friday 2011.01.14 demo seen by 50 of Focardi-Rossi HNi cold fusion with heat 1 hr, translation of Italian reporter: Rich Murray 2010.11.14

Re: [FRIAM] [Vo]:Proposition to the Membership of Vortex List in Regards to Andrea Rossi

2011-01-24 Thread Sarbajit Roy
1) All this is fine, but does the device actually work ? The videos and on-line interview replies seem even less convincing than the magic tricks exposed on Magic's Biggest Secrets Revealed. 2) Such repeated usage of FRIAM to publicise this experiment, may affect the credibility of the group.

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: The Dirty Little Secrets of Search - Slashdot

2011-02-14 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Owen Here's the correct link to the story http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/484704--the-dirty-little-secrets-of-search Sarbajit On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Wow, I didn't know just how dirty SEO (Search Engine Optimization) was. It

Re: [FRIAM] Hm. From Hunch.com

2011-03-10 Thread Sarbajit Roy
1) I couldnt find the relative %ages of gmail users to AOL to Yahoomail etc. 2) I couldnt find figures for the age of the accounts surveyed. (For eg I could hypothesise that AOLmail is so bad that only their fat lazy woman subscribers havent moved on to other (better) providers.) Sarbajit On

Re: [FRIAM] Hm. From Hunch.com

2011-03-10 Thread Sarbajit Roy
women ages 35-64 who ...prefer sweet snacks Sarbajit On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.com wrote: Scroll down on the blog post page itself. Info broken down by age categories. On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: 1) I couldnt find the relative

Re: [FRIAM] Work! Fer Gawd and Newton's sake!

2011-03-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Railroad lines represent useful constraints to freight cars A clear application of the 3rd law depending on the frame of reference of the static rail system. So would the frame itself constitute a constraint ? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:53 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote: Come on, Peoples!

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Sarbajit Roy
What the majority of people do IS the right thing. Wisdom of crowds and so on. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: Geeze, Nick. You can't make people do the right thing. People have to want to do the right thing. People don't want to do the right

Re: [FRIAM] Today's WedTech: Can we figure out how to recover data from government Flash-based web sites?

2011-04-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Its a web portal. This implies that the data you seek is stored elsewhere on other websites. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Just a gentle reminder: we hope you can come to today's WedTech and help us figure out how to recover the peoples' data from the

Re: [FRIAM] Rossi mini reactor 2.5 mo. at 10 kW gives 18 MWh using up 100 gm Ni and 2 gm H, Sven Kullander interview 2011.04.06: Rich Murray 2011.04.07

2011-04-08 Thread Sarbajit Roy
In my country (India) we use coins (cupro-nickel). A back of the envelope calculation shows that 100 grms of nickel works out to be under US$ 5 worth of coins assuming a 70::30 Cu:Ni ratio. Leave aside the physics, the economics of the Rossi device don't stand up at current energy prices. On Fri,

Re: [FRIAM] Rossi mini reactor 2.5 mo. at 10 kW gives 18 MWh using up 100 gm Ni and 2 gm H, Sven Kullander interview 2011.04.06: Rich Murray 2011.04.07

2011-04-09 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Rich Considering your enthusiasm for Prof. Rossi's LNER device, please excuse me for asking this question - do you have any formal scientific / technical training / qualifications which I can list ? I am asking this only so as to be able to ask my country's Govt about their knowledge of

Re: [FRIAM] off topic....., but still

2011-05-04 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Doug , Would you say the same for Gadaffi's grandchildren too ? Sarbajit Roy अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम् । उदारचरितानां तु वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् ॥ He is mine and he is other, is the thought that narrow minded people have. For noble people, the entire world is family. On Tue, May 3

Re: [FRIAM] Terrorosity and it's Fruits

2011-05-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
*But, to say that it is down to some group of human beings who are simply evil and hateful is equally mindless. They US played a significant part in this monster creation. To my mind, the processes of monster creation is still active. That worries me. That must stop.* To use a LoTR analogy, I'd

Re: [FRIAM] What evolves?

2011-05-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Dave I'm not entirely sure that Vedic philosophy extends to ruling out a distinction between living and non-living. For example there is an ancient Vedic verse which states that all life exists to be consumed. Presumably meaning that the end result of the food chain is that we are all dead

Re: [FRIAM] Financial Scam

2011-05-21 Thread Sarbajit Roy
-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2011 9:20 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Financial Scam Hi 1) Simply ignore them 2) Do not communicate with these people in any way

Re: [FRIAM] Gmail love

2011-06-05 Thread Sarbajit Roy
So lets hear your experiences with Gmail and how you like/don't like its features! The worst problem with Gmail is PRIVACY - you don't have any. You must assume that each and every email which passes through gmail is archived indefinitely (the copyright being with google). - Sarbajit On Sun,

Re: [FRIAM] The stopping rule

2011-06-08 Thread Sarbajit Roy
How does knowing the second number establish the range ? Is there any work on this. Sarbajit On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: Russell Standish has the right idea. If you knew the range, say the first number is higher/lower than the third depending on

Re: [FRIAM] The stopping rule

2011-06-09 Thread Sarbajit Roy
* blog: *http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ vita: http://sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ *_* On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com#13074553f57f0e8b_ wrote: How does knowing the second number establish the range

Re: [FRIAM] The stopping rule

2011-06-09 Thread Sarbajit Roy
, the restriction to guess relative to A makes it harder for me to think about. Imagine instead that all we did was guess that the third number would be above the smallest of the first two. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 08:35 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: A lucid analysis. BUT, If we

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-09 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Owen, 1) Try disabling Java / Javascript in your browser settings when you use Gmail, 2) Alternatively, opt for the basic HTML version of Gmail (using the settings link, or somewhere at the bottom of the page) Sarbajit On 6/10/11, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Like many a damn

Re: [FRIAM] Experiment and Interpretation

2011-07-04 Thread Sarbajit Roy
As opposed to the (a ?) fourth way of simply setting under a boddhi tree and isolating yourself from the world ? Sarbajit On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Peter, ** ** There are three ways to learn something: read, fiddle with

Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

2011-07-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Yet another nail in privacy's coffin. Who ELSE do you know ? http://www.consciousape.com/news/google-bankrolled-by-the-cia/ http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/14-01-2010/111657-google_china-0/ On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: Is anyone on Google+

Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

2011-07-09 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear List Owners Gmail has recently started reporting that many mails from this list (and this topic in particluar) may not be from whom it appears to be / report phishing. On analyzing the email headers it seems the locus of the problem is milan.hostgo.com which is either used by the FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Ongoing cell-phone threads, esp T-Mobile

2011-08-02 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi I'm hugely amazed by your post. Being involved in telecom regulatory matters (as a citizen stakeholder) in my country. I'm surprised that consumers in yours tolerate such nonsense. Just to provide some reference points In India: The average postpaid mobile commitment cost is about US$3 per

Re: [FRIAM] Ongoing cell-phone threads, esp T-Mobile

2011-08-03 Thread Sarbajit Roy
a wreck. But because it is too hard for most folks to understand, thus cry out in pain, we are but pawns in the game. It is a deeply painful thing to be a US citizen who understands tech from the bottom up. -- Owen On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] Deafening silence re downgrade -

2011-08-11 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Its very well known that (Equity) Markets are often schizophrenic (oscillating between manic optimism and pessimism). This is a very good time to make money by taking advantage of volatility (and assuming unsystematic risk). PS: Is there negative schizophrenia too ? On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:04

Re: [FRIAM] Just FYI - This message may not have been sent by:

2011-08-20 Thread Sarbajit Roy
As posted previously, I suspect the problem is milan.hostgo.com which seems to be forwarding the FRIAM / Redfish mails, and which triggers red flags in gmail. On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Alfredo Covaleda alfredocoval...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting to see how these smart guys from google

Re: [FRIAM] Draw - Google Correlate

2011-09-04 Thread Sarbajit Roy
This is a neat tool. Now netizens get limited reverse access to Google's privacy violations. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: You will never have trouble fitting your data analysis results to SOMETHING ever again. -tj Search by Drawing Draw an

Re: [FRIAM] Academic papers are hidden from the public. Here’s some direct action. ? Bad Science

2011-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Thanks for saying this. As a non-academic without access to JSTOR, its so frustrating when a google search throws up relevant academic papers in JSTOR or similar databases, and I can't read them. H.. as an Indian (forrmer) hacker lets see what can be done to strike a blow for hactivism.

Re: [FRIAM] India unveils world's cheapest tablet

2011-10-08 Thread Sarbajit Roy
This tablet is a complete fraud. Every 6 months the concerned Minister (equivalent to your Secretary) keeps pulling such rabbits out of his (subsidy) hat. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Alfredo Covaleda alfredocoval...@gmail.com wrote: India unveils world's cheapest tablet computer

Re: [FRIAM] [Vo]:OT - Sunday's Sermon: Peace-Of-MInd

2011-10-10 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Just out of curiosity, how many religions (or scientists) explicitly acknowledge the Singularity conception ? My own one does. [ http://brahmo.org/true-brahmo-principles.html ] On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Marcos stalkingt...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you're talking about the

Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-27 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi 360 a week (before tax). Ouch. is roughly what an average productive worker (and his large extended family) in a LDC survives on for a YEAR. It seems to me that a bunch of very rich nations led by the USA have gotten together and decided to interfere (citing human rights etc.) in the affairs

Re: [FRIAM] Mary Yugo lays out how a typical new energy device scam works: Rich Murray 2011.11.11

2011-11-12 Thread Sarbajit Roy
You think people are too sophisticated to give money to scammers? You must read different news articles than I do. http://www.blongerbros.com/gang/rag.asp On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo lays out how a typical new energy device scam works:

Re: [FRIAM] HELP: google analytics

2012-01-18 Thread Sarbajit Roy
http://statcounter.com; is also quite good and you don't get the obvious feeling that our tiny websites are contributing to Google's bloated revenue stream. Sarbajit On 1/18/12, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Thanks, Grant. I guess I did all that , cuz it's now working.

Re: [FRIAM] kathy.saunders

2012-01-28 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Nick Somebody has either hacked / got access to a copy of Peter's email a/c (or contacts). This is routine SPAM. Please ignore it (or contact Peter in some other way to tell him the good news) Sarbajit On 1/28/12, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Peter, I am baffled

Re: [FRIAM] Self publishing

2012-02-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
I have interests in a niche family publishing business in history / social sciences in India.. But we mainly publish European authors (the Romance langages) in excellent quality in small runs (ie. low thousands) which nobody else handles.. Authors: http://www.transbooks.com/auth.html We publish

Re: [FRIAM] Self publishing

2012-02-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Russel This may be somewhat Odd-Topic for this list. (apologies) Thanks for mentioning your book, I've located the PDF. Chapter 2 starts with Gospel John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. I wonder if this would compare with a verse from

Re: [FRIAM] Private note to you- Re: Self publishing

2012-02-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
. Thank you for your time- Victoria Tory Hughes unusual objects and unique adornments www.toryhughes.com www.toryhughes-galleryshop.com On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22:02PM +0530, Sarbajit Roy wrote: Dear Russel This may

Re: [FRIAM] A Good Question - Should the United States join OPEC?

2012-02-27 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Insane as it sounds, A better question is if the US should first join the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation) considering that the US has more Muslims (5+ million) than half OIC's member nations. On 2/27/12, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Now for something completely different:

Re: [FRIAM] A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors - YouTube

2012-03-02 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Here's a swarm of nanodrones playing the James Bond theme. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/us-news-blog/2012/mar/01/flying-robot-quadrotors-ted-video On 2/26/12, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: For our fly by night colleagues. A swarm of nanodrones flying in formation and

Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this?

2012-03-11 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Here's the download link to a PDF of the New Yorker 05.March.2012 http://uploaded.to/file/1y22zlm1/The_New_Yorker_March_05_2012.pdf Have downloaded it (122 MB) , but can't seem to find the article. Sarbajit On 3/11/12, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Owen, etc., Even

Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this?

2012-03-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
W.r.t to your pointwise comments to John's points. This to me seems a clear case of reinventing the wheel. It also seems that the inventors do not know that the wheel has been invented. Referring to at least 5,000 years of evolved human history http://brahmo.org/brahmoism-genetics-memetics.html

Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this?

2012-03-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
to me? --John From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy [sroy...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 1:09 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: See

Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this?

2012-03-16 Thread Sarbajit Roy
ancestors? --John From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy [sroy...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: See

Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this?

2012-03-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
of its parents. N -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:33 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: See this? John, wrt statement #2

Re: [FRIAM] Which programming languages are fastest? | Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2012-03-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
From the link, it seems that C is the fastest programming language by a very wide margin. On 3/19/12, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Latest shootout results. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=alllang=all

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-24 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Thanks, I liked this other one too. http://www.naute.com/jokes/atheist.phtml On 3/24/12, Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: Then there's the story of the Scottish atheist fishing in Lock Ness when suddenly his boat was tossed in the air. The fisherman gazed in fright at the

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Answer : Because we don't have a Merkaba antenna ? On 4/1/12, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: I just had a face to face conversation with own who put his interest in the second way (see below). In which case, the thread ought to be entitled, So why haven't we heard from

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Doug What is taught in Sunday School is the problem with the Christian religion which for the most part seems based on gospels, unprovable historical events and parables etc. The ancient Eastern religions Dave mentioned don't have that problem insofar as their core beliefs are concerned

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
want to dwell on here. --Doug On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Doug What is taught in Sunday School is the problem with the Christian religion which for the most part seems based on gospels, unprovable historical events and parables etc

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-04 Thread Sarbajit Roy
places humans cant or won't On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reminding me about this book. I'd read it many years ago (when I still knew maths) as an online PDF, which luckily I had still kept saved somewhere. Could anyone on this list update me

Re: [FRIAM] online privacy (again)

2012-04-04 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Turn off Javascript,.disable Java. In Firefox, Tools Options Content On 4/4/12, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: So. In short. Has everybody BUT me gone to some toggle in Google and in Firefox and in I.E. and done something like “turn off tracking”. Is the peril

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-05 Thread Sarbajit Roy
'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.' Hydrogen sulfide is another gas entirely. On 4/5/12, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: I guess I must have spoiled your game somewhat by turning out to be barely lukewarm regarding the charms of

Re: [FRIAM] So, *Are* We Alone?

2012-04-06 Thread Sarbajit Roy
. Anyway, Please forgive my besottedness. I have been using an awful lot of bandwidth, recently, and it's probably time to shut up. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 8

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists continue work to abolish time as fourth dimension of space, Amrit Sorli and Davide Fiscaletti, founders of the Space Life Institute in Slovenia, Physics Essays 2012.04.03: Rich

2012-04-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Rich, And WHO has published this research ? And WHO are these people (and what do they have to do with Meditation EHAN)? And WHY must we put up with half baked pseudo-science ? Sarbajit PS: I am asking this because Physics Essays (as per their website) seems to have their most Recent

Re: [FRIAM] re alternative medicine

2012-04-25 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Glen Insofar as Ayurvedic medicines go, these would be good starting points. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1297513/ http://www.ccimindia.org/ Informally, Ayurvedic (herbal) medicine works for low level (common) ailments but perhaps not at the efficiency / success levels of

Re: [FRIAM] nonduality -- the religion stripped and plain, of simplicity and scope, as H.G. Wells described it in 1923, for new world religion and education to unify and civilize world: Wayne Fe

2012-07-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Rich Quote: The overriding powers that hitherto in the individual soul and in the community have struggled and prevailed against the ferocious, base, and individual impulses that divide us from one another, have been the powers of religion and education. Some Advaita schools would veer to

Re: [FRIAM] The Lost Land

2012-08-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
shameless plug for this book http://transbooks.com/cata/lus02.html for Lost Lands a little further south. On 8/19/12, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Yes Tory, thanks for the correction to iaia.edu ! And thanks also to Pamela for noting my omission of the Anglo takeover of Hispanic (but

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

2012-09-14 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Doug You're quite right, and there is a huge disconnect. Nobody on this thread / list is examining the Great Satan who provoked all of this. One nation under GOD ? In God we trust ?? God bless America ??? Whats going on in the Middle East now is just another episode of the long running

Re: [FRIAM] Is my government too big?

2012-09-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Why are we having this discussion ? You folks have a President who knows and operates on the Heisenberg Principle. His desire to hear the case raises the obvious question: Why didn’t he just make it himself? “It’s the Heisenberg principle,” he says. “Me asking the question changes the answer.”

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Platinga's view is fairly well aligned with the beliefs of my own faith even though our God may be different. We all develop our own models of reality, apparently the trick is to ensure that these models are robust enough accommodate everybody else's gremlins, devils, zombies, or maulvis and still

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
broadest senses of that term? In what ways? Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:51 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Russ The question doesn't differ The answer(s) may. Our own answer (or belief) is that the answer (to the question) is so beyond the comprehension of mere mortals that its unknowable. ie. There is universal law dharma to explain everything but we can never know all of it. ... (and God does

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Steve 3 quick interjections. 1) You will never find an :Adi Dharmist (??) knocking at your door, bugging you at an airport or selling / dumping you literature. Adi Dharm does not proselytise .. period. My own occasional statements on this mailing list are only to test whether your models

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-17 Thread Sarbajit Roy
that this way of being -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:42 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] just faith Well atheism would only

Re: [FRIAM] just faith

2012-09-18 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Like Glen (Ropella) I too intuit that there is no such absolute as fact. From this review, it seems that Mr. Platinga's system is based on warranted facts .. and he has previously published a 3 part series on what warranted facts.are. Mr Platinga's system seems similar to an Indic system called

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Dear Glen You've confused me even more now. So I'll just come to your last para I don't want want to be involved. 8^) I'm trying to simplify the discussion down to an actionable point. Which is why I'll ask again: If faith is a collection of actions, what actions constitute faith? Praxis

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
: Sarbajit Roy wrote at 09/19/2012 08:30 AM: I don't want want to be involved. 8^) I'm trying to simplify the discussion down to an actionable point. Which is why I'll ask again: If faith is a collection of actions, what actions constitute faith? Praxis ?. Heh, you didn't provide enough

Re: [FRIAM] faith, zombies, and crazy people

2012-09-19 Thread Sarbajit Roy
We need a sequence of actions that might actually cause a person to have faith. 2 examples. a) way cults work, and b) ways a magnet works. In a (religious) cult, the newbies are first encouraged to join in on simple actions like clapping. This is a psychological device to get them to

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