Just going over some stuff for LWN and noticed that the gimp.org download
pages still list 1.1.27 as the latest developers release. Just thought
someone (who maintains that these days?) might want to know about it.
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lage can only hold 55, so I think that's out (I
> expect your BOF to be very popular!).
>
> We're also flexible. Check with me when you arrive at ALS, and
> we'll see if any sliding can take place.
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> Currently, I have you at 8 on Thursd
anyone is going and would like to help out, or would be interested in a
Gimp BOF (which I haven't scheduled yet), let me know.
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latter as root, which exposes
the rebuild issue on the NFS mounted partition). I primarily noticed that
perl rebuilds that .po~ file (something like that), but only because it
happened to be one of the last things done during the install and happened
to still be visible in the xterm. If you sit
lug-in calls but couldn't reproduce it.
It may be limited to calls to Script-Fu plug-ins. I'm not positive of this
because few of the perl-fu and C plug-ins 1) take very long to process *and*
2) generate additional layers in the manner of Old Photo.
In any case, the problem is p
re 1.2 is released) to make a note that
serializing of calls to plug-ins from plug-ins is not guaranteed.
BTW, if anyone wants a copy of the script I'm using that shows this let me
know.
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ow you can "fix" this problem with the Gimp and maintain the
ability for interactive users to work on multiple images while plug-ins are
running. The only possible option is to add some sort of "serialize
plug-ins" feature that can be turned on and off from withi
#x27;m going to try calling C plug-ins instead of Script-Fu, and variations on
the same, to see if there is one specific area where this happens.
Thanks for looking into this, Mark.
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ut immediately after making a selection around the current
layer Gimp crashes.
Any ideas?
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her places with similar issues.
However, if the terms are to be considered interchangeable then there's no
worries.
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Is there a way to open an image in Gimp Perl and run filters on it without
opening a Canvas window? The script will run interactively, but process
needs to run behind the scenes, so to speak. Is this just a matter of not
calling gimp_displays_flush()?
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This is pretty minor.
I just noticed that the Animation Playback specifies a delay of 125 ms for
unspecified frame timings, but the Save As GIF dialog defaults to 100 ms.
Could the latter be changed to 125 ms so the playback will match the saved
file if the defaults are used?
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to build something here? Should this particular step
(making gimp-perl.pot~) be part of the build process or does it have to be
done during the install step?
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dedir)
I don't know how to fix the auto-conf files to generate this change, otherwise
I'd recommend the change to make there instead.
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If not, I'll see if I can get
them one. Does anyone have a preference on what to send them? A Toolbox
screenshot? Or one of the splash screens?
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torial is pretty good. Seems reasonably
fast in comparison to what I expect from the Gimp (yeah, I know - different
types of tools). Unfortunately, it crashes when I attempt the section on
text along a curve.
Just FYI.
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happens to be the only format (provided it's not compressed) that
seems to work for all the publishers I deal with. So, I'm pretty much
stuck with using TIFF for now.
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to 6.2.
> NB None of this affects loading images, and you should NOT be
> creating more TIFFs, so hopefully right thinking people are quite
> unaffected apart from this build problem.
You lost me a little here. Why should I not be creating more TIFFs?
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ts changed recently? 1.1.19 built fine.
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Everything should be made
27;re interested, drop me an email. Info on the conference and exhibit
can be found at www.thecliq.org. Its going to be held on Saturday, April
1st.
Thanks.
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I loaded the 1.1.17 release the other day and today I did a print job. All
I get is a solid black output. I'm using an Epson Stylus Color 500 and the
printer worked fine in 1.1.15 (I didn't try 1.1.16).
Rob: if you need more info, let me know.
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er what the Grokking Gimp book shows - I think its the first 1.2'ish
book. I'm glad I waited on mine.
My 2 cents - leave the original layout (3 columns, active buttons
below) in place, and let users change it later (using whatever mechanism is
decided upon).
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m only asking now
because apparently the deadline for paper submission is the end of the
month (man, thats a long lead time!). Not that I have any idea what I'd
talk about yet.
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just had a thought - maybe a scroll out menubar (ie to the right or
left), like the iconic menus you get with Photoshop, might help. Then you
just need the word "Menus" at the top. Not sure how this would be
implemented, though. I don't think there is a stock widget for such things
ganization,
who got that money? Just curious.
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One possible reason that thi
can't be done in <60 days.
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red "vital" in some way? Even some estoric file plug-ins need not
necessarily be included with the core package. Throwing in the kitchen
sink is what's starting to bloat some Linux distros.
Just a thought.
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suggest waiting for a logical pause in
> development, such as the release of GIMP 1.2, to begin making these
> not-insubstantial changes in source management.
Make that two cries. Ditto the reasoning.
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ctate how Linux works."
Interesting sig, considering you're argument about uniformity in
user interfaces.
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Making it behave nicely under the GNOME or KDE
environments is less difficult.
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Palette options for the Indexed Color Conversion dialog
doesn't fit in an 800x600 display using the default fonts. There are so
many palettes provided in the distribution that a scrolled list is now a
better display option here.
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rge burden on Gimp to manage something that is already (supposedly)
handled at a lower level (the widget kit).
Anyway, I could be way off here. Like I said, I don't know that much about
internationalization. Or even if that's what you were referring to! :-)
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cle on setup on my web site. But it's
easy to use and fairly easy to base a platform independent installation
package on it.
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red "vital" in some way? Even some estoric file plug-ins need not
necessarily be included with the core package. Throwing in the kitchen
sink is what's starting to bloat some Linux distros.
Just a thought.
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suggest waiting for a logical pause in
> development, such as the release of GIMP 1.2, to begin making these
> not-insubstantial changes in source management.
Make that two cries. Ditto the reasoning.
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should probably be updated too.
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to be at the expo let me know so we can try and
arrange our schedules. Let me know if there are any times you can't meet,
too. Right now it looks like Wednesday afternoon sometime or right after
my Gimp talk on Thursday would be best for me.
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mage somehow. But adding extra space just for the logo in every window is
a bit wasteful. And over using it can be just as damaging as not using it
enough.
> Hey, we could even have a Wilber "agent" like the M$ Word Paperclip.
Bite your tongue! :-)
> Please shoot me now.
t is used to
imply sophistication. Wilbur is simple, easy to identify and not used
anywhere else. It fits well as an identity mark.
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together and chat.
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a booth with Linux Weekly News (if they're interested,
since I know them) or some other exhibitor. Anyone else going that might
want to help with this?
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ng. Thanks.
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from the 1.1.14 package perhaps?
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http://www.graphics-muse.com/gimp/linuxworld/
(or http://www.graphics-muse.com/gimp/linuxworld/index.html)
That would help, eh?
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ou've recovered from tonights
celebrations. :-)
Happy New Year Gimp'sters!
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is not the ame as the feature that was requested, of course ;)
Interesting thing about threads - the dangle in every direction. :-)
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ty of letting
the user determine what should be installed falls in the setup tool, not in
the Gimp. Gimp should build everything and let an installation tool
provide installation options.
Anyway, just something I was thinking about since I recently reviewed
Loki's setup.
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ions!
PS: you should probably contact me directly, since this isn't specifically
development related - unless you think the list wants to hear all the
potentially boring details.
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hange would need to be made to the Layer menu, ie "Set
Layer Size" instead of "Layer Resize". Just for consistancy sake.
I think I missed a posting - I didn't see the one with the changes proposed
for menus.
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the time. I do not know
> if he has upgraded and retested.
Not yet. I haven't grabbed 1.1.11 yet. I saved your response to the bug
report and will try to get to retesting it this week.
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opefully this won't be necessary. Compromise is an important part of any
community. I'm sure something can be worked out.
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[E
and sticking to the spec as it was defined here is a reasonable
goal. But consider, too, that 7 months between feature freeze to release
(assuming a March release, as you suggested in an earlier email) is a
rather long time, especially considering it was 6 months (at least) between
the 1.0 release
I updates.
Anyway, this is all just another point of view. As a writer, I'll adjust
to what the developers decide, as I'm sure many people will.
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ur
for moving a selection should be to move the outline, not the contents
(which forces a floating layer to be created). Positioning of selections
happens more often than the actual moving of the selections contents.
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I changes be spec'd out for
1.4 and not added into the freeze period for 1.2.
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ction
is apparently more intuitive (at least to the people I've asked).
But I guess thats somewhat useless info if dials aren't available.
So, nevermind. :-)
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cision when the range changes from a 72DPI context to a 300DPI
context.
> X-Tigert-Header: Eek!
> X-perience: what you needed right before obtaining it
You guys crack me up. :-)
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.69 millimeters)
Shouldn't these ranges be tied to the resolution setting? ie change the
resolution and the ranges will update (well, maybe not for an open dialog,
but perhaps the next time its opened).
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hether such groupings are
beneficial to new users. Anyone got a artistic grandmother we could try it
out on?
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changes in the layers dialog are minor (but
could be more problematic if the changes are carried throughout the UI) and
won't delay any work I'm doing currently. What bothers me more is the state
of the Toolbox. The ability to reshape it is interesting, but I'm hoping a
final defau
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