Re: [Gimp-user] wacom: line quality
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, David Gowers wrote: > On 8/21/07, Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for advice! > > I'll definitely try playing with the pressure curves. > > And yes, 'p1' was apparently a modified brush (the original > > artist confirmed it :). But that aside, p2 and o1 look a lot > > better than g1... I've heard somewhere that gimp was made for > > photo editing, not drawing/sketching.. so I guess it's not very > > likely this will change? > > I think it's fairly likely. stroke smoothing is useful for photo > editing too.. > > > Are there any programs in Linux that were actually made for > > drawing/sketching? > > Krita (which I personally have not had much luck with, i found it > crashed a lot) > > > Thanks! The version of Krita I have doesn't crash as before but it runs dead slow. The number of filters and scripts is very limited compared to Gimp. But the CMYK color model was built in from the get go which ultimately will make it a winner for those in publishing. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about GIMP CMYK support.
On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Chris Mohler wrote: > On 8/7/07, Bhavin Suthar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can someone tell me the truth behind this? Does this also mean > > that if you write text on image (like your jpeg Canon photos) > > then they can't be printed properly? > > Point #1 is almost accurate. The true part: GIMP does not natively > support CMYK yet. It will in time, and there is a plug-in if you > truly need CMYK separations. The false part: you can't use GIMP to > prepare for printing. You certainly can, but be aware of the > RGB->CMYK translation process - eg, there is no way to print the > color #FF in CMYK. > > Point #2 is pretty much FUD. I occasionally convert something to > CMYK in PS just to check the shift, but if you are a "graphics > professional" [sic] you should already be aware of the RGB colors > that exist outside of CMYK color space and avoid them. A cheap > inkjet printer will show you the result of converting your RGB to > CMYK if you really need to know - and this type of proof (a "hard" > proof) is more accurate anyway, owing to the fact that all monitors > operate on the principal of additive light (hence RGB), and most > printers operate on subtractive light (thus CMYK). A "soft" proof > can easily[1] be obtained by using imagemagick[2]. > > Short answer: I doubt you need CMYK. You certainly won't be > prevented from printing your photos by not using it. Many desktop > printers expect RGB input these days[3]. > > Chris I would expect that flesh tones would give the most trouble in converting from RGB to CMYK . Among free software programs Krita, TeX, Cinepaint and Scribus handle CMYK natively, and all but TeX can use ICC color profiles. Gimp and Inkscape don't yet, and that limits their acceptablity in the publishing world despite their other excellent features. Book designers want CMYK plus ICC profiles and won't consider a product that lacks that capability for color work. The free programs listed above that most closely approximate Gimp are Cinepaint (a Gimp offshoot0, and Krita. But neither has the range of other features offered by Gimp. and Krita only runs under the KDE desktop found on many Linux systems. It is possible to conceive of a workflow that involved doing most of the creative work in Gimp but a final checkout/conversion to CMYK in e.g., Krita or Scribus. Color separations where needed for the press can be prepared by specialized prepress software and need not involve the publisher. Most printers will accept color files in pdf form so long as the color is in CMYK model. It helps if the PDF adheres to the X3 specification however. Since Scribus already has all this a Gimp to Scribus workflow makes some sense. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New small user manual for gimp newbies made
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Niels Larsen wrote: > A small beginners minihowto about gimp is made. > > The idea is to get newbies started using gimp immediately, with the > most elementary things. > > Has taken me a long time, to learn gimp. > > The address is http://www.minihowto.org > > I am an old pensioner of some 66 years of age. And I am a very young pensioner of (almost) 75 years of age. I will grow up some day but I don't believe in rushing things. The minihowto is at the bottom of the right column on that page. Just downloaded it. Took just a few seconds. Will coment on the contents later. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp hangs in Fedora 7
On Thursday 02 August 2007, Dr. Muhammad Masroor Ali wrote: > Dear All, > > After I upgraded my machine (Dell, 1GB RAM, PIV processor) to > Fedora 7, gimp worked fine for a few days. Then it started to hang > after about ten minutes of use. It works fine (pencil, crop and > fill), but after gimp has been used for about, say ten minutes, > whenever I try to open or save a file from the File menu, the menu > appears and then gimp hangs. Nothing can be done after that except > forced kill. > > Then I upgraded gimp to the latest available stable version 2.2.17 > (from koji). Then after about a week the problem reappeared. I can > work for a few minutes, even save and/or open a file or two, then > gimp hangs as soon as I use an item in File menu. > > No problem occurs if gimp is used as a superuser (using su -c). I > am always against running an application as the superuser, and > advise people against it, but I really need to meet a few > deadlines. > > > Excerpt from ~/.xsession-errors, > > (script-fu:3683): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: wire_read(): > errorWindow manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW > message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x3e0a86e (The GIMP) > Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with > a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. > > Any suggestion will be appreciated. > > > Regards, > > Dr. Muhammad Masroor Ali > Professor and Head > Department of Computer Science and Engineering > Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh > > Phone: 880 2 966 5650 (PABX) > FAX: 880 2 861 3046, 880 2 966 5622 > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > > _ > Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy > with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com could be permissions. Make sure that the files are in a folder that has 777 permissions, and/or belongs to your user name and group. try chmod -R 777 foldername andl/or chown -R myname:users foldername. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] installing GIMP-2.3.19
On Monday 30 July 2007, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 08:28 +, Heiko Schmidt wrote: > > I had the same problem under Ubuntu but with the GTK+. > > > > After installing GTK+-2.10.13 from source I've got the same error > > message that this modversion returns 2.10.13 but 2.10.11 was > > found. Now what I have to do to get rid of the 2.10.11 version? > > Where I can find this LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable or > > what I have to write in /etc/ld.so.conf? > > If you have to ask such questions, then you should better not > compile any software from source. Stick with the packages that your > distribution offers because you are likely going to screw things up > badly. You have been warned. > > You can of course also go ahead and read the documentation that > comes with your linker (man ld) and with pkg-config (man > pkg-config). It would also be a good idea to read the GTK+ manual, > in particular the chapters about building GTK+ and building GTK+ > applications > (http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-building.html). And > last but not least the release notes for the GIMP development > releases (http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html). > > > Sven I would add that Ubuntu is user friendly only when you live within its boundaries. For serious work I prefer Slackware, even with the absence of some Gnome libraries (and the Gnome gui itself of course but that is no great loss. ) In the "Debian world" I would prefer to either use Debian proper or else install Knoppix to disk. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rounding those corners
On Saturday 28 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi gimp-user, > > > > How are you creating a single rounded corner, like those used for > > css boxes with rounded corners. > > > > (i.e., http://www.csszengarden.com/063/corner_yelongreen_tr.gif) > > > > Or, if you wanted to outline an image's left, bottom, and right, > > sides and round the lower corners (radius 8), so it would look > > like a "U" without the tail and a flatter bottom (again for use > > in CSS background for a round cornered semi-flexible box). > > There is a nice tutorial on GUG (GIMP Users Group) which suggests a > method (http://gug.sunsite.dk/?page=tutorials). If you wish to have > only certain corners rounded, I would propose rounding the corners > on a duplicate layer then erasing the unwanted regions (or use > layermasking) to reveal the original. > ___ Typesetting programs like Context have this as a normal feature. If you are indeed importing text into Gimp and putting it in a box it might make sense to typeset it externally and import the eps. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Programmatically modifying text in .xcf files.
On Thursday 26 July 2007, mal content wrote: > On 26/07/07, John R. Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't know :<( I thought you meant a sentence or two. Gimp is > > not the optimum approach for long text passages IMO. Sounds more > > like a job for a page layout program or even html. What kind of > > files are they? Are they intended for online use? > > Well what it basically is, is a CD cover and booklet. The > cover and booklet conform to an image template so that they > print the correct size and with correct margins at a given > DPI. I suggest that the cover art is a good Gimp application but the booklets aren't. An application such as TeX (e.g, Context) could prepare those pages. If art work or backgrounds etc. were needed they could be prepared via Gimp or a drawing program and incorporated as needed on the pages. But gimp would not be used to create the final image to go to the printer. That way you would have the flexibiilty to substitute text in a batch editor program like sed and have the pages adjust automatically. Margins are easily controlled in a layout program and dpi is not really a factor with text. I am afraid that you may have painted yourself into a corner by using gimp as a page layout program. That is not its strength. If you send me a sample of one of the bookets I will see what I can do with a conversion program. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Programmatically modifying text in .xcf files.
On Thursday 26 July 2007, mal content wrote: > On 26/07/07, John R. Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are on a Linux or similar platform something along the > > lines of awk or sed could be possible approaches. I quote from > > an old manual: > > "The advantages of sed are that it can apply the same editing > > comands to many files; it can edit a large file quickly; and it > > can readily be used with pipes." > > Yes, the thing I was worried about though is damaging the > binary files. The text I wish to replace the original text > with is about twice the length of the original. Is the > xcf file format flexible enough to really allow editing > in this way? > > thanks, > MC Don't know :<( I thought you meant a sentence or two. Gimp is not the optimum approach for long text passages IMO. Sounds more like a job for a page layout program or even html. What kind of files are they? Are they intended for online use? -- John Culleton ATTN Publishers/authors: If you don't read you don't succeed. Free short list of publishing/marketing books. http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Programmatically modifying text in .xcf files.
On Thursday 26 July 2007, mal content wrote: > Hello. > > I have a large number of xcf files that have a section of > text embedded in them. Is there a tool or method available > to safely and reliably modify this text (replace it with > other text) from the shell, or some other interface that > doesn't require me to open 100 or so files in Gimp*? > > I'd ideally like to be able to do something along the lines > of: > > $ for f in *.xcf; do xcf_text_replace $layer_num file.txt; done > > thanks, > MC > > * they are huge files, I doubt my hardware could cope. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > > _ > Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy > with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com If you are on a Linux or similar platform something along the lines of awk or sed could be possible approaches. I quote from an old manual: "The advantages of sed are that it can apply the same editing comands to many files; it can edit a large file quickly; and it can readily be used with pipes." -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Xsane entry on acquire menu.
I just moved to a Slack 12 partition with different names for hardware. I copied over my identity, home directory etc. from the old Slack 11 partition. I have two entries for Xsane under "Acquire." One is the Xsane dialog. That one works. The other refers to a now obsolete hardware address. That one doesn't work. How do I delete the non-working entry? Gimp 2.3. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16 Bit files
On Saturday 21 July 2007, Asif Lodhi wrote: > Hi, > > On 7/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... While this is a > > major draw back with gimp I understand the need is recognised and > > will hopefully be remedied in the near future. When that happens > > gimp will be laying the foundation for an entry into the > > professional arena. > > Though I haven't followed this thread from the start and don't know > who said what on which issue but I do want to suggest you to try > Cinepaint (16-bit Gimp) for 16-bit - it's here: > >http://www.cinepaint.org/ > > -- > HTH, > > Asif IMO it is already a professional level product for web images. But it still lags other free products with repect to color model, color profiles and conformance to printing standards like X3. So it is not a fully satisfactory replacement to commercial products for publishers. Work is proceeding in this area but the color model problem is a difficult nut to crack apparently. -- John Culleton ATTN Publishers/authors: If you don't read you don't succeed. Free short list of publishing/marketing books. http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Graphic Designers
On Monday 16 July 2007 11:53, Harry G. Osoff wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am having trouble finding graphic designers that are willing to > > work on GIMP. It seems all of them are hooked on Adobe :) I run a > > small online company commited to using Free Software only, and > > have a few projects. > > > > Anyone interested or that can recommend someone is welcome. > > E-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Andrés Proaño > > Abako Solutions > > President > > ___ > > Gimp-user mailing list > > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > I responded to this posting and found out that they wanted web > design not graphic design. Which had nothing to do with working > with GIMP. > > When you deal with mapped areas, buttons, decorations etc. there is a role for Gimp in the overall web page creation process, but I agree, html and possibly CSS expertise would be the central requirement. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list
On Thursday 12 July 2007 19:13, Chris Mohler wrote: > On 7/12/07, John R. Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups. I see some with three > > members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to > > join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen posts, set > > up assistant moderators and so on. I am the lead moderator on > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two essentially coequal > > co-moderators. The owner of the list is SPAN. > > > > It is a comprehensive service and it is free. It isn't perfect > > but what is? > > Yahoo Group messages are nastily formatted HTML. I hear the Google > Groups has added mailing lists -- I wonder if that's any better? > On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we ask for plain text. I can't remember if we set a parameter to insist on that. I know that the messages I clear are all in plain text. So your statement doesn't apply in our case at least. I see HTML on a few other lists but those senders get yelled at. HTML has no place in email IMO. If the mail is not from one of my mailing lists or from a designated client I have a filter that sends HTML bearing mail to a special folder. 98% of such mail is SPAM. I delete based on subject line. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 17:16, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: > > The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization > > that was forked from to provide support to the fork. > > True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to > moderate such a list, & what it would coist to run such at > Berkeley? > > The logic is that it would take such posts away from the main > list (which you're reading now) & really be helping people. > The downside is that it could be seen as supporting GimpShop > despite the developer's entire unwillingness to join this > community. > > In answer to the second point, are are any other good, free > (yeah, yeah, I know) list servers in action that you'd > recommend someone independant started a support list on? > > The idea behind that is to take the traffic away but still > be able to monitor it, so that despite said developer's > approach, good ideas could be captured for the benefit of > *both* packages. And, who knows, bad ideas might even get > a little slapping about before anyone implements them, so > establishing a precendent. > > If enough people here think the idea's basically a winner, > I might ask Linux Australia to be a list host, with the > idea of inviting a few others here along as moderators. > > Cheers; Leon Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups. I see some with three members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen posts, set up assistant moderators and so on. I am the lead moderator on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two essentially coequal co-moderators. The owner of the list is SPAN. It is a comprehensive service and it is free. It isn't perfect but what is? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Feature request list for publishers.
1. Ability to work with and save files using CMYK color model. 1a. Use ICC profiles for viewing and exporting CMYK model files. 2. Clean up the code for exporting PostScript and Encapsulated PostScript files. I have on occasion dug into the source code and changed things like the unnecessary default offsets but I am not prepared to do this for each new release I get. Motivation: some of us use Open Source software exclusively. The nearest OS rival to Photoshop is Gimp in terms of functionality. Publishers need to work in CMYK and sometimes in spot color. There have been little steps toward the CMYK color model but not a complete adoption. Other programs, some not nearly as well developed as Gimp, manage to handle the choice between CMYK and RGB without difficulty. When you open up Krita for example that is the first decision you make. But Krita is embryonic and not ready for me at least to use. Scribus also handles both color models, as does TeX. These are both production programs. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Using Wacom Graphire 4 in GIMP (Mac OS X/X11)
On Saturday 30 June 2007 13:28, Axel Wernicke wrote: > Am 30.06.2007 um 18:05 schrieb Akkana Peck: > > Victor Domingos writes: > >> I am testing a Wacom Graphire 4 tablet in my Mac (PPC) and > >> appearently I can't use its pressure sensitivity in GIMP. Has > >> anyone managed to use a graphics tablet in GIMP, under Mac OS X? > >> Is X11 for Mac compatible with this feature? > > > > My understanding is that Apple's X11 doesn't support tablets (so > > a tablet will look like an ordinary mouse), but the open-source > > version of X11 does support at least some tablets. > > > > I don't have a Mac myself, so I'm just passing on what I've been > > told. Any Mac users able to fill in the details? > > As far as you described Apples X11.app your writing equals my > knowledge of that - Unfortunately! :( > > lexA And has anybody used a Wacom tablet with Gimp and Linux? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wow Linux Journal not very enamoured with GIMP.
On Thursday 21 June 2007 21:17, Brendan wrote: > On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Eric P wrote: > > > I really get peeved by these types of articles. GIMP is GIMP. > > > Krita is Krita. CinePaint is CinePaint. Each is a tool. Use > > > the right tool for the job. There are lots of hammers. Some > > > are good for some projects. Others are good for other projects. > > > None are good for all projects. As an author, he should know > > > that and write accordingly. In this case, it looks like he's > > > more interested in publicly bashing one tool (which would be an > > > opinion piece, which this is not intended to be) instead of > > > trying to help his readers (a reference piece or review, which > > > this *is* intended to be). > > In the Open Source world Gimp is the best (most mature, fastest, most fully featured etc.) replacement for Photoshop. That said, for print use it needs to be able to work in the cmyk world and also be able to use icc profiles. If Krita, Scribus etc. can add these features then Gimp should be able to also. The reason why people want to have Gimp tools transferred to Krita is that Krita can work in cmyk, and Gimp's progress in this regard seems to be asymptotic, closer and closer but it never seems to get there. Krita is however dead slow. I use nothing but Open Source, and Gimp is one of my favorites. But my business is publishing and I need cmyk. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP for annotation
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 10:34, Kraemer,Steven [Edm] wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for annotation software (that will run on Red Hat 9) > to be used in a classroom setting. Is anyone is using GIMP for this > purpose? Is it possible to run GIMP as a transparent overlay for > the purpose of annotating content displayed in underlying windows? > > Any help on this would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Steven Kraemer Can you flesh out the requirement a bit? Is this for screen display, slides or paper copies? Most publishing programs will allow one pdf or whatever as the background for a page and another overlaying it with text. Context (part of TeX) does this for example. And I am also sure I can do it in Scribus. You can of course do it in Gimp but each combined page would be a separate entity. And text would be converted to bitmaps. As the Vermont farmer said, "If I was goin' to Montpelier I sure wouldn't start from here." I would look at other tools for this particular job. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Corruption of Graphics Files
On Saturday 09 June 2007 06:07, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 12:00 +0200, ASJF wrote: > > I can't open it with other programs... > > (I have also tried to open it with my favourite emacs... but it > > contains only "@@@"). > > It is a jpeg file because it comes from a cdrom that contains > > only jpeg files (pictures). I think it has been corrupted during > > the burning... there are some other one like this one, but not > > all... > > It will be extremely difficult to recover any image data from such > corrupted files. You could try > http://freshmeat.net/projects/recoverjpeg/ but I doubt that it will > help in this case. > Try renaming it so the the suffix is eliminated. Then try calling it up in various programs that recogize multiple file formats, like XV or even Gimp. Maybe the program will recognize the format based on the preamble. And maybe not. John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Font size?
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 10:25, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * John R. Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-22-07 10:14]: > > Using gimp 2.3.13: > > When I select the tool Font (big letter A) and then click on a > > layer I get to a dialog that allows me to enter text. When I > > select dialogs>font I get to the dialog that allows me to choose > > a typeface. But there is another dialog I remember that allows me > > to select the size of the type and the color as well as the > > typeface. > > Look again at the dialog where you are given the opportunity to > select the font. It's the same dialog you get when you select the > font tool from the tool box, BEFORE you click on the "Aa". > It is tool options on the dialog menu for the text tool. Hidden in plain sight. I use to be able to get this with a right click on the tool. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Font size?
Using gimp 2.3.13: When I select the tool Font (big letter A) and then click on a layer I get to a dialog that allows me to enter text. When I select dialogs>font I get to the dialog that allows me to choose a typeface. But there is another dialog I remember that allows me to select the size of the type and the color as well as the typeface. How do I get to that dialog? I have been right clicking all over in various windows but it doesnt seem to appear. Sorry for my senior moment but now I am stymied. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie with a Question
On Friday 04 May 2007 13:05, Dub Yah wrote: > I just started using Gimp and I LOVE it! I am > planning on picking up a USB tablet with mouse-pen and > wondered if I should expect any of them to interface > without significant work? > > I dont want to spend too much as this is all > relatively new for me, but I want to be able to use > the pen to draw/edit/etc. > > Any particular ones that work best or some that dont > work at all with Gimp? > > Or am I a total noob and not worth the time it took > you to read this email? > > Thanks! > > Sean > I don't use a tablet myself. But others seem to be happy with the Wacom line, starting at about $100 for the Graphire model and upwards of course for bigger and better. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie with a Question
On Friday 04 May 2007 13:05, Dub Yah wrote: > I just started using Gimp and I LOVE it! I am > planning on picking up a USB tablet with mouse-pen and > wondered if I should expect any of them to interface > without significant work? > > I dont want to spend too much as this is all > relatively new for me, but I want to be able to use > the pen to draw/edit/etc. > > Any particular ones that work best or some that dont > work at all with Gimp? > > Or am I a total noob and not worth the time it took > you to read this email? > Always glad to help. Someone will pick up on this conversation and answer. It would help if you mentioned the operating system you are using, Windows, MAC OS, Linux etc. Also, what version of Gimp are you using? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Adobe Illustrator output.
On Thursday 03 May 2007 10:34, Chris Mohler wrote: > On 5/3/07, John R. Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gimp (and other programs) can use Adobe Illustrator output with > > one small change. Just rename the file from foo.ai to foo.pdf. > > It is actually pdf 1.4 in format. I have used this trick on two > > different projects. > > Which version(s) of AI have you used? > > Thanks, > Chris I don't use AI. My customers do sometimes. Since Acrobat Reader stopped working after my latest download I don't use any Adobe products. Kpdf is a perfectly suitable substitute. The AI files in question are from clients. One was prepared by AI 12.0. Another (different client) was 12.0.1 AFAIK. This is from reading the top lines of the file. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] going digital
On Thursday 03 May 2007 10:03, Kristian Rink wrote: > Andrew; > > [Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ Thu, 03 May 2007 15:54:17 +0200] > > > I'm thinking of moving into the 21st century and getting a > > bottom-end digital reflex, preferably Pentax for the sake of > > nostalgia. Can anyone advise me from a technical point of view as > > to what I need in order to be able to get pictures into GIMP for > > editing? > > In my opinion, the only thing _really_ worth paying attention to in > relation to "the computer" / Gimp is making sure your camera is > supported by dcraw [1], thus enabling you to read full-sized RAW > pictures right off the device and do something useful to them > without having to use the proprietary tool that usually comes with > the camera. Everything else should be quite easy: > > * About storage, most of the DSLRs I know about run on CF cards, > and you can get a decent USB card reader supporting CF and a bunch > of other cards rather cheap nowadays. > > * Connecting directly to your machine (USB link between computer > and camera), most cameras by now fortunately seem to be capable of > being usb-storage, thus being handled more or less like an ordinary > SCSI drive. There you go. ;) > > About Slackware, your mileage might vary as I don't know what > drivers and/or features come packed with the distribution - running > Ubuntu on various machines, and even my girlfriend (who does not > really like computers that much, altogether) by now manages to > easily transfer their digi-cam pictures to $HOME. > > Overally, however, choosing a DSLR you probably should focus on > other technical aspects of the camera itself, but probably that's > another story... ;) > > Cheers, > Kristian > > > [1] http://cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ I connected my FujiFilm 900 to an USB port and rebooted. I mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/tmp and my pictures were accessible. /dev/sda0 was already occupied. BTW this high end point and shoot offers 9.1 megapixel (tops) and also dcraw. The only major drawback is the lack of a flash port. I use Slackware 11. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Adobe Illustrator output.
Gimp (and other programs) can use Adobe Illustrator output with one small change. Just rename the file from foo.ai to foo.pdf. It is actually pdf 1.4 in format. I have used this trick on two different projects. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Blood spatter.
For a detective fiction book front cover I want to create an irregular figure like a blood spatter. Is there a plugin I could use as a starting point? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] RAW format from digital camera.
On Sunday 22 April 2007 20:16, Renan Birck wrote: > Em Dom, 2007-04-22 às 20:03 -0400, John R. Culleton escreveu: > > 1. Will Gimp handle this RAW mode? If so what suffix should I use > > on the file? > > Not directly, but you can use tools like ufraw (which uses dcraw - > considered one of the best tools for RAW format decoding). > Ufraw seems to be a profiling tool I cannot find the sources for dcraw, only Mac and Wndoze binaries. I use Linux. Hints? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] RAW format from digital camera.
My digital camera will take pictures and store them in jpg mode but also in RAW mode. RAW mode takes up more room. I hve a couple of questions. 1. Will Gimp handle this RAW mode? If so what suffix should I use on the file? 2. Is there any advantage to using RAW mode instead of e.g., JPG at 5 megapixel resolution? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu and menus.
On Monday 16 April 2007 16:28, Renan Birck Pinheiro wrote: > Em Seg, 2007-04-16 às 12:14 -0400, John R. Culleton escreveu: > > There are several python-fu scripts installed but they don't show > > up under the xtn menu or anyplace else I can find when running > > Gimp. > > Did you put them in ~/.gimp-2.3/plugins and chmod +x them? No. I had expected them to be picked up just as the script-fu plug-ins were. I did what you suggested and restarted Gimp. They were picked up as new plugins during the startup display but I still can't find them on a menu. The only entry on the python submenu is sphere.py, which was there when I started. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] python-fu and menus.
There are several python-fu scripts installed but they don't show up under the xtn menu or anyplace else I can find when running Gimp. Only the sphere.py script shows up. Gimp 2-3-13 on Slackware 11. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] fuzzy logic possibly usefull to find almost perfect overlaps?
On Sunday 15 April 2007 22:51, Toby Haynes wrote: > Julien Michielsen wrote: > > It regularly so happens I'd like to merge/overlap two digital > > pictures. Gimp does have tools to fit two pictures by hand (take > > one picture as a layer, and turn and twist them till they fit > > almost perfectly). However, almost perfectly may not be good > > enough, and I wonder if a search proce- dure could be develloped > > to find margins of two pictures that almost perfectly overlap? > > What you want is a technique like the SIFT algorithm to identify > similar features in two images. I recommend the autopano-sift > tools: > > http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~nowozin/autopano-sift/ > > Also available is Autopano (which is a different program) > > http://autopano.kolor.com/ > > While you are looking at this, if you are interested in panoramas > or even just trying to make a larger image out of two overlapping > scans, you should also try Hugin > > http://hugin.sf.net/ > > These tools can be used together to streamline panorama generation > and can be used to create fabulous (and massive) wide-angle images. > > Cheers, > Toby Haynes > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Are these tools useful for top-to-bottom merges or even diagonal merges? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Logo uses RoostHeavy Font.
I have a recent download of Gimp 2.3.13 on a Slackware Linux system using fc-cache for fonts. However Gimp may use something else. The 3d outline Script Fu appears to want the RoostHeavy font by default. AFAIK I don't have this font on my system. When I use the font selector on the 3D screen it shows RoostHeavy as the default but the results do not resemble the RoostHeavy font I see on the internet. And when I use that same font selector to search available fonts RoostHeavy is not one of the choices. So I have to assume that the script fu substitutes another font silently. Can anyone suggest what the substituted font might be? I have downloaded a TTF version of Roost Heavy. Where should I put it so that Gimp can find it? In amongst my X11 fonts? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com _ Need personalized email and website? Look no further. It's easy with Doteasy $0 Web Hosting! Learn more at www.doteasy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Unable to use 'system' command for script-fu
On Sunday 11 March 2007 01:04, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2007 01:25, Tony Freeman wrote: > > OK, I found this site ... I'll be studying this for a while :-) > > > > http://developer.gimp.org/plug-in-template.html > > You really be better trying out pythhon scripts first. > However I find that recent versions of Gimp blow up on compile unless one disables Python capability. I use Slackware Linux. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] need some help or direction on printing
On Monday 05 March 2007 12:26, Rick Berger wrote: > I'm a inexperienced GIMP user and need some help or direction on > printing using Ubuntu Linux with CUPS. > I'm trying to printing a rendered PDF form with text that I've > added. The image starts printing about an inch from the top of the > page and the bottom is lost, no second page. All the margins are > set to 0. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Rick > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > Probably the safest course is to save the document in some suitable form (e.g., PS) and print the document from the command line. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Three questions about gap
1. Does it produce formats like those used on e.g., uTube? 2. What is the best introductory document/tutorial for gap? 3. Do I need to retrofit to Gimp 2.2.x to use gap? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Install Gimp help files.
I unzipped and untarred the help files. I ran ./configure in that directory. When I ran "make" I got a slew of messages of the form: I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd ../src/appendix/bugs.xml:3: warning: failed to load external entity "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd"; "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd";> ...and of course no usable help files. It would be nice if the help files were integral to the Gimp distribution. Perhaps that is too simplistic. I have Slackware Linux 11. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Where to put help files?
Assuming that there is a directory /usr/local/gimp-23.13 where should I unpack the help files so that Gimp can find them? Slackware Linux 11. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems with 2.3.13
On Friday 05 January 2007 14:58, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 09:03 -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: > > On my Slackware Linux 11 partition I get an error message on ./configure > > of 2.3.13: > > checking for PYGTK... no > > configure: error: > > *** Could not find PyGTK. > > GIMP 2.3 is for testing only. So if you can't build pygimp, you won't be > able to test any Python plug-ins. What's the big deal? > > > Sven Perhaps I misunderstood. It was my imprssion that over time there would be a conversion from ScriptFu to Python. If there is a problem with 2.3.13 then the problem will persist with 2.4.x -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] An interesting comparison of Gimp and Photoshop.
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 13:14, Robin Laing wrote: > Is the Gimp just as good as Photoshop? > > Yes, for the average home user, the Gimp is just as good as Photoshop. > The gimp has layers, alpha channels, a robust plugin architecture, I > could go on but they have a pretty good overview of what the Gimp is > capable of at Gimp.org. > The big difference is the limited CMYK capability (though that is improving.) For book covers etc. CMYK color model is required. I look forward to 2.4. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problems with 2.3.13
On my Slackware Linux 11 partition I get an error message on ./configure of 2.3.13: checking for PYGTK... no configure: error: *** Could not find PyGTK. There is a workaround but that excludes python plugins. But that could cause problems in the future. I have downloaded and installed two different versions of pygtk (however you capitalize it.) The older one doesn't help and the newer one has a problem with a missing header or something. It is the old Russian doll trick--- you open up one doll and inside is another doll etc. On a fresh install of Debian stable (sarge) there is the old problem of the missing perl XML module. I can probably solve that. But I am having monitor problems with Debian so I would rather stick with Slackware. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Python
I downloaded, compiled and installed gimp2.3.13, followed by the obligatiory copy of xsane to the plug-ins directory. It would be nice if this could be included in the gimp distribution. On the subject of plug-ins, I have python on my system but not some GTK fragment that Gimp wants. So I did a configure excluding Python. I am assuming that there are script-fu etc. scripts avialable to cover the functionality of most Python scripts. Is there something important that I am missing by not having Python? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can Gimp start with something less dan gerous than a brush
On Friday 15 December 2006 00:25, User1001 wrote: > Select the desired startup/initial tool, then save your Preferences, which > also saves the currently selected tool - which then gets selected the next > time Gimp2 is started: > > 0) Select desired tool to start up with > 1) File/Preferences/Input Devices > 2) Save Input Device Settings Now > 3) OK > Thanks for the useful routine, whch was more helpful than simply answering: > >> Yes +1 Now we need to convince the Powers That Be to make that the default out of the box. Also, the PostScript output routine defaults to vertical and horizontal offsets of 20 pixels each. These settings have no utility that I can see. I know how to patch this and recompile but it would save time if I didn't have to do this for each successive release. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? - > I've checked out GIMP before. > > I was going to try to run it again to see if this comment held any > > water: > > There may be a feature or two that are unique to Photoshop but I'll > > bet you > > can live without them. > > …but X11 choked on my 34 activated fonts. From what I recall of > version 2.1.x, it (and I) suffered from its aggravating GUI and > inconsistent tools, and a general lack of features. That being said, > if friends and family members are pining for some way to scan and > modify old photos, I install GIMP for them and show them how to do it. > > GIMP works for casual use. I don't see it fitting into a professional > workflow mainly because of the utter awkwardness of the GUI. Maybe if > you're used to the Gnome UI standards or have the mindset of a > programmer, it's less awkward. But that's another story. These are > first year students I'm talking about here. They can barely get the > OSX dock straight, let alone browsing for files in the GIMPs browser, > which reveals the BSD underbelly of OSX, hidden folders and all. > > Update: I gave X11 some time (10 minutes on my hermetically > maintained dual 1.25 G4 with 2 gigs of ram) and it finally loaded > GIMP and also GIMPshop. While it seems that the feature sets have > expanded quite a bit, there are still things that I use regularly in > Photoshop missing. Here's a list. > > Adjustment layers: non-destructive editing. It can save you whole > minutes if not dozens of them. > CMYK Support: Come on! > Wacom support- I'm sure you can get it working in linux, but we're > not switching. > Semi-automated extraction- a real time saver. > Live filter previews- what's the point without them? > Color profiles (again, come on- how is importing an image into > Scribus just to apply a color profile a productive workflow?) > Limited output options (a.k.a. mostly useless file types) > Vanishing Point (it's actually useful) > No typeface previews > > I could go on and on but I feel that I'm wasting breath, so to speak. > Yeah, you can do a lot in the GIMP but it's just not enough. Beyond > its limitations, it's difficult to use, doesn't play well with > others, and would probably curl up in a ball and die if it tried to > interact with our scanners on the intel machines. Photoshop saves > time which saves money in the long run, and thus the software pays > for itself. I'm not trying to say that GIMP isn't a great solution > for Do-It-Yourselfers or Very-Small-Businesses, but if you're > teaching students, there's a certain responsibility to focus on > industry demands. I had a hard enough time getting them (the faculty) > to give up Extensis Suitcase for Font Explorer X. > > -Matt (My first response follows) Interesting response. Let me answer those objections that I can. 1. Load time: On a modest Linux system and using the stable verson 2.2.13 load time 10 seconds. Modest means a 768MHZ CPU and 512 MB ram. 2. Activated fonts. I estimate about 50 X11 fonts on my system. I got tired counting them onscreen. 3. Scanner: I use an Intel machine and activating the scanner means copying the xsane program to the Gimp plugins directory. Then on next reboot it shows up automatically on the Acquire menu. I scan all the time. 4. GUI: I use KDE. Gimp adapts nicely to that. KDE resembles MSWin. I set my teeniebopper granchild down on my computer and she was able to use Mozilla which she had never seen before and Kword which she had never seen before and the KDE interface itself which she had never seen before without any instruction after I showed her where to access the programs on the menu. The dreadfulness of GUI shock is IMO much overrated. I can go back and forth between KDE, Win 2000 and Win 98 without difficulty, though of course I prefer KDE. 5. CMYK support. In fact what you see on any screen is RGB. The latest unstable Gimp will convert an image by reducing its gamut to one resembling CMYK. You can even get cmyk separations. But for print work it is probably smart to do final checking in Scribus which does the whole CMYK bit, ICC profiles for monitor and printing etc. Now I would much prefer a Gimp that worked natively in CMYK. I have been pounding the drums for that for years. --- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-u
Re: [Gimp-user] Epson Perfection 3170 Photo Scanner and Gimp 2.3.10
On Sunday 26 November 2006 16:22, Philip Jones wrote: > I am running Mandriva 2007 and using iscan works o/k to scan in > photo/documents etc. > In Gimp under Xtns/Aquire-Image Scanning (iscan) is grayed out, > there is a symbolic link from --- > /usr/bin/iscan to /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plugins/iscan. > Any ideas how to get iscan working with gimp. > > Phil Jones > Xsane works for me. Perhaps you could use it instead. I have Slackware Linux 11. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Best online guide for photographers
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:34, jim feldman wrote: > At the risk of being a heretic let me make the following suggestions > > Tanveer Singh wrote: > > I use GIMP for image manipulation. > > though lots of resources are availalbe for photoshop, gimp docs are > > hard to come by(from a photography point of view). > > Can somebody link me to a good online guide. > > I am looking for things like > > 1. Working with levels and curves, not just how to, but the technique too The book "Grokking the Gimp" is available online but you really want to buy a paper copy. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10
On Thursday 02 November 2006 09:16, Stephan Hegel wrote: > Tom Williams wrote: > > For the record folks, I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with > > my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in > > /usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any > > problems, errors, or wrapper scripts (unless gimp-2.3 is a wrapper > > script). > > That's very interesting. Could you please post the output of > echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > and > file /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 > ? > > Thanks. > > I'm wondering how this works with multiple gimp libs. > > Kind regards, >Stephan. > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Happily I seem to have stumbled into the same situation. I compiled from one master partition (Slack 11) and run in an older one. /usr/local is the same in each (same partition linked into the tree.) Gimp 2.3.12 now runs just fine. Why I don't know. It won't run using the master partition in which it was compiled. I did have to upgrade glib. In answer to your questions here are the results: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (nothing) file /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3: cannot open `/usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3' (No such file or directory) No wrappers installed. Go figure. Hey, I have a working Gimp of recent vintage. I am not touching a thing. And I won't upgrade to Slack 11.x until it has Gimp 2.4.x included. Don't mess with success. My executable is /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3. It yields two errors on startup: - /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/poppler: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler-glib.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (gimp-2.3:2838): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.3: wire_read(): error but it seems to run OK. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp2.2
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 09:07, Jude Sutton wrote: > I have downloaded and installed Gimp2.2 from an outside source. > > When I click on the desktop Icon, the program starts to intialize > but during that process it tells me there is No Disk in my CD drive. > > Is there a CD available? Where do I get that? > > Jude Sutton First, what is your platform? Second what is your "outside source"? The program is available free for download from www.gimp.org. Installation is not always easy but it can be done. I suggest you download it and try that version. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Slackware adventures (contd.)
I have a new Linux Slackware 11 partition that does not have a Gnome add-on. In that partition I successfully ran ./configure, make and make install against a fresh download of gimp 2.3.12. To get it to run I had to import the /usr/local/libgimpconfig* files and links from the old Slackware 10.2 partition. The error I mentioned before did not recur on this partition. However I cannot start gimp from a console window as before. I have to use an icon or the run command. Another anomaly: ./configure couldn't find python so I compiled gimp without it. python is on the system so perhaps I have a path problem. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10
With both of these versions the program compiles clean and installs clean but the following error occurs at runtime: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/bin/gimp-2.3: undefined symbol: gimp_env_init I use Slackware Linux 10.2. the only recent change has been the addition of freerock gnome, since Slackware Linux distros no longer include Gnome. I have a version of 2.2.12 that works so I am not fussing with it :<) But I have had 2.3.x working before and I would like to continue with it. Any suggestions? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Sunday 01 October 2006 05:15, Christoph Sturm wrote: > On 10/1/06, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please also explain the reason that you target GIMP and not some of the > > other perhaps better funded names of products that are as or more > > offensive than this one here? > > can you give an example of such a product? > > regards > chris > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user This discussion is getting circular. Hooters, Hustler, Vanity Fair, Spam to repeat some which have been named already. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Friday 29 September 2006 20:33, Michael Schumacher wrote: > Roland Hordos wrote: > > If you can point out a single commercial product that has > > mass use in North America that has a derogatory term in it's title, > > I'll withdraw my critique and be gone. > > Spam. > > Both sorts. Coke, which means Coca Cola or cocaine (among other meanings.) Hustler, which means prostitute. Vanity Fair And you said "it's" (a contraction for it is) when you meant "its" (the possessive form of the pronoun "it"). Bye! -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Friday 29 September 2006 13:48, Roland Hordos wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Thanks for an intelligent and articulate response. I suspected the > disconnect with reality, bringing me to post to the users list first > instead of the developers'. Being a software developer and contributor > to other open source projects, I understand the complexity issues. I > also wish the community to grow past the selfishness of the proud > consistent contributors. If only they could see it from outside, it'd > be obvious. > > thanks again, Roland; Since I live near Finksburg and not too far from Scaggsville I am perhps desensitized to such points of political correctness. But I do remember from half a century ago a group of hotrodders who proudly called themselves the Kreeping Krips of Kaiser-Kabat. Kaiser was a hospital system and these particular hotrodders built and modified their cars from their wheelchairs. There was an organization in the headquarters of Social Security called the Public Inquiries Group. Someone objected to the initials so they proposed changing their name to Public Inquiries Sub Section. Bottom line, I thought the name "Gimp" a bit lame when I first heard it but now it falls trippingly from my tongue. - John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Friday 29 September 2006 09:38, Jakub Steiner wrote: > Hi list, > in addition, can we change the default colors to read african-american > and caucasian? > > thanks No because not all B---k people are American. and not all Africans are B---k. To suggest either would be entirely too chauvinistic. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing to non-epson printer
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:54, Matthew Polashek wrote: > I have been trying to figure out how to print to my xerox color laser > printer. Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > Matt In general Gimp is best used to create illos for documents/web pages rather than the documents themselves. But you can save a gimp image as PostScript (don't forget to zero out the offsets in the print dialog) and then route that PostScript page to your printer somehow. Alternatively you can incorporate the image in a document type you know you can print and then print that document. MSWord comes to mind, if you are on MSWindows. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Printing
On Thursday 28 September 2006 08:31, Rob Ogle wrote: > John, > > I'm the OP'er...since I'm a network tech and not a graphic designer I want > to make sure I understand what I'm getting from these posts before I go > back to the designer. When you wrote, "...will need to understand its > limitations for photos destined for print jobs and develop workarounds" > > Does that mean that there is no fix? Or is the fix to convert the visible > image to cmyk in the Gimp so the designer can adjust colors, etc so the > print should match the screen? > That is more or less what I am asking for. The problem is the limited gamut of CMYK. What looks great in RGB looks dull in CMYK. For serious color work you need a monitor that can be adjusted for color temperature and software that will accept icc profiles and so on. Then you need to run tests, perhaps with a calibrated color target. Photoshop has a lot of this stuff built in. Scribus, which lacks the plugins etc. of Gimp, nevertheless will deal with the CMYK model and ICC profiles. Of course ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick can do conversions back and forth. At this point however it is mostly cut and try with Gimp. You have to do a lot of tests on your setup to get it right. I bought a used sony pro monitor on EBay, model CPD G250 and I have adjusted the color temperature to my flourescent environment. But I haven't gone much further with it, > I've been using the Gimp in a limited capacity for the past 4 years and I > love it. I like to promote it as much as possible. > As do I, but the color model thing is serious and I have to be honest about it. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Printing
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 18:03, Øyvind Kolås wrote: > > Color management support is improved in the latest development > versions of GIMP, this is not the same as editing in CMYK mode, but it > should be the thing more than 90% of the people asking for CMYK needs, > even though they think it is not. > > It is sufficient to do the conversion to CMYK when exporting from GIMP > to file/the printer to achieve correct colors if you have a color > correction profile for your display as well as your printer. This is a > separate issue from being able to work with the image in CMYK mode. > Manipulating a photograph in CMYK mode is in most cases mostly > pointless since the source of the data is the RGB model and the human > visual system operates in RGB as well. The separation needed for CMYK > varies between printers whilst sRGB is a standard color space for > image exchange. > > /Øyvind K. Welll perception is everything. It is necessary for Gimp not to be as good as but better than its competition to gain acceptance. As soon as the CMYK lack is mentioned people in my industry are turned off and won't consider the product further. The product of professional print designers today is not separations or an sRGB file but a PDF or tiff file in CMYK model. Prepress, making of separations etc. is a separate process. If conversion is done at the end of the designer's workflow then there is no chance to put back the brightness that is lost. But there is perhaps a way to do it. If a display function can be added to Gimp whereby a double conversion is done, from RGB to CMYK and back again, then the user could view the illo in Gimp with the gamut limited to what it will be in CMYK model, and adjust saturation etc. to bring the photo back up to requirements. Since there is already a function to separate into CMYK colors it could possibly be a recombination of those separations into a single image. In the meantime people like the OP who want to use Gimp instead of Photoshop in their workflow will need to understand its limitations for photos destined for print jobs and develop workarounds. We need to be honest about this up front. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Printing
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:46, Rob Ogle wrote: > I'm trying to get a wedding chapel to move away from Photoshop and start > using the Gimp. They are almost on board except for a printing issue. If we > print a photo from Photoshop to an Epson Stylus 2200 the photo looks great. > But when we print from the Gimp, the colors are "wrong". I don't know > enough graphics terms to describe it. The picture has a greenish and/or > faded quality to it. > > We're running Gimp for Windows on a new XP Pro box w/ a P4 cpu, 1GB RAM and > a 200GB drive. > > Any suggestions? > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Photoshop and the free programs TeX, Scribus, Inkscape, Krita etc. can work in the CMYK color model. Gimp only works in RGB. CMYK has a more limited range of colors than RGB. Printers, both desktop and four color commercial work in CMYK. This is the major hangup with using Gimp as a Photoshop replacement. Apparently adding the additional color model would be a huge undertaking. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] pangoft2
Gimp 2.3.10 configures and compiles without difficulty but Gimp 2.3.11 ./configure blows up on the alleged absence of pangoft2. The following files do exist on my system: /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pangoft2.pc /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.la /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0 What is different about 2.3.11? How do I fix the problem? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] drop shadow text
I have on my desk "The Basics tutorial" By JTL dated 2002. Is there a newer and easier way to create three dimensional text with a drop shadow? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FYI Users problem with Gimp on XWindows.
On Thursday 07 September 2006 16:18, Alan Horkan wrote: > XWindows is something entirely different from Windows XP. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System > > It is an error which makes it much more difficult to take the rest of the > message seriously. > Ouch! My baddest bad. Thought one thing---fingers typed another. Perhps my subconscious revolted against the evil duple XP. Sometimes even good old Homer nods. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FYI Users problem with Gimp on XWindows.
On Thursday 07 September 2006 05:54, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > John R. Culleton escribe: > > I have the writer's permission to forward this info: > > Nice. Who's the writer? > > Cordially, Ismael Walt Shiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I suggested using a Knoppix disk and he was enthusiastic about that possibility. He will ultimately end up on Linux I suspect. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] FYI Users problem with Gimp on XWindows.
I have the writer's permission to forward this info: -- One other note of caution about Gimp: I would not try to install it if you're running Win XP. The online info indicates that it will run on Win XP, but it also may screw up other programs. I downloaded it and then discovered that you had to install the GTK+ Runtime Environment. Did that, tried it and, after quickly determining that it was an awkward program and not one that I would choose to use for anything, discovered that GTK had messed up other programs. Took me a couple of hours to get everything back to normal (had to manually find the bits and pieces of GTK and reinstall a couple of other programs). Maybe it works OK with Linux, for which it was designed, but I would not recommend installing it on Win XP. Walt Shiel Publisher, Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC Author, "Devil in the North Woods" - http://Devil.SlipdownMountain.com "From the Publisher's Desk" - http://PubDesk.SlipdownMountain.com "Warbirds Old & New" - http://Blog.CessnaWarbirds.com -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] rounded corners on jpg image.
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 16:18, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:42:23 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] rounded corners on jpg image. > > > > Quoting "John R. Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > have a jpg image that is in rectangular form. I would like to > > > round the corners off symmetrically to soften the shape a bit. > > > Which is the quickest way to to this? > > > > The quickest way is to: > > > > * Select all > > By the way, a "Select All" is not required. When I rewrote the script it > was a reasonably safe assumption that if a user tried to run the script > without having first selected something the script should run on the whole > image so I added it. There may be other scripts or plugins which could > take the "do something" approach, feel free to suggest. I must have missed a post somehow. what is the message you are quoting from? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] rounded corners on jpg image.
have a jpg image that is in rectangular form. I would like to round the corners off symmetrically to soften the shape a bit. Which is the quickest way to to this? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Screen capture in MSWIndows.
Linux Gimp has a very useful screen capture function under the "acquire" menu. It seems to be separate and apart from kcapture---at least the interface is different. Is there a comparable screen capture capablity on Gimp for MSWindows? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Deckle edge around a graphic
On another list an earnest soul, obviously working in something like MSWord, wanted a way to put a deckle edge around a "pullout" which I presume is a graphic. Here is a quote: "I'm trying to find a software program that would allow a pull-out to look like a letter - that is, instead of just a straight-lined or wavy box, something that looks like it has ragged edges. anyone out there have any experience with this?" Now I am sure that with some fiddling one could create a deckle edge graphic and then dupe it around a graphic. But is there a more straightforward method in Gimp? - John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fiddling while Gimp burns.
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 16:21, John R. Culleton wrote: > Tried the latest development gimp, 2.3.9. Had a problem with > Xsane. It reecognized Xsane, and when I selected it gave me the > "accept" page. I said yes and then Xsane blew up. > (In the process of getting a runnable 2.3.9 I had to delete som3 > glibs and insatll newer ones.) > So I downloaded 2.2.12 into its own directory, and compiled it. Don't know the disease but I found the cures. first I wiped out everything in /usr/local/share/gimp. I also wiped out the gimpish files in my home directory. 2.2.12 still didn't want to play nicely so I recompiled 2.3.9. The xsane problem may have been related to cross-partition problems so I just copied it to the plug-in directory instead of linking it. Now all I have to do is correct the persistent problems with PostScript output. It still creates offsets, horizontal and vertical, by default. This requires minor surgery on the source. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Fiddling while Gimp burns.
Tried the latest development gimp, 2.3.9. Had a problem with Xsane. It reecognized Xsane, and when I selected it gave me the "accept" page. I said yes and then Xsane blew up. (In the process of getting a runnable 2.3.9 I had to delete som3 glibs and insatll newer ones.) So I downloaded 2.2.12 into its own directory, and compiled it. It gives me the inital splash sreen but then errors, such as the following: (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `GimpConfigInterface' (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_interface_add_prerequisite: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INTERFACE (interface_type)' failed (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_add_interface_static: assertion `g_type_parent (interface_type) == G_TYPE_INTERFACE' failed (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `GimpConfigInterface' (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_interface_add_prerequisite: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_INTERFACE (interface_type)' failed (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_type_add_interface_static: assertion `g_type_parent (interface_type) == G_TYPE_INTERFACE' failed (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `GimpParamRGB' (gimp:12480): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_param_spec_internal: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_PARAM (param_type) && param_type != G_TYPE_PARAM' failed Segmentation fault --- So back to the drawing board. I can of course wipe out everything and start all over. But I am stilll curious about the Xsane thing. What would cause it to start and then abend? It hasn't been changed. -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Adjusting grayscale illustrations for LSI printing.
the digital printing house LSI has some problems with rendering grayscale illustrations correctly. The instructions given below were prepared for Photoshop users. Perhaps some kind soul can trurn them into equivalent instructions for Gimp. Then I can pass them on to the publishing community. --- 1) In PhotoShop (I'm using 6.0), load the grayscale picture or photo you want to print with LSI. Save it as a TIFF and adjust the image to the size and resolution you will be using in the final document (usually 300 dpi, but could be 600 dpi). 2) Select the Color Sampler tool. This will give you 4 possible eyedropper selections which, as you make them, will be listed under the Info palette. 3) (To do the following, you may want to magnify the areas you are concentrating on.) On your photo, find the lightest point, or any area you want to print as all white. Click on this with the eyedropper. Next, find the darkest point in your photo, or any area you want to print as all black. Click on this with the eyedropper. Do the same thing with the lightest area you want to print (be visible) as gray, and the darkest area you want to NOT print as all black (in other words, to have some shadow detail). Under Info palette, you should now have percentages listed for all four points. 4) Now go to Image:Adjust and select Auto Levels. See how this affects the % settings in your Info palette. You will see each original setting with the new setting to the right of it. Usually your low %'s will go down and your high %'s will go up. 5) Looking at the new settings: If your #1 point (white point) is now below 5%, then your white areas should print as white. If your #2 point (black point) is above 93%, your black areas should print as black. If your #3 point (lightest gray area) is around 10-15%, it should print as light gray. Your #4 point is not always necessary, but anything under 90% should print dark but also show some shadow detail. If the new percentages fall within these boundaries, you should be okay. If not-if either the white points or the black points are too low or too high-you can make further adjustments as follows: 6) Go to Layer:New Adjustment Layer:Curves. You'll see a box with a grid labeled "Channel: Gray." The lower left corner should be your maximum white point, and the upper right corner your maximum black point (visible on the gradient strip to the left of and below the box-if it's the opposite, you can reverse it by clicking once on the gradient strip). 7) A line runs diagonally from lower left to upper right of the box, with a small square at each end of the line. To adjust your white point, put the pointer over the lower left square and hold down the left mouse button. If you move the square along the bottom line to the right, you will see the %'s in the Info palette decrease. If you move the square up the left side of the box, you will see the %'s increase. Which direction you move depends on what changes you want to make in the %'s. Just be aware that all 4 percentages will be affected to some degree at some point. It's best to keep all your adjustments here to the barest minimum that will give you the results you want for all 4 points. 8) To adjust the black point, make the same sort of adjustment to the square at the upper right corner of the box. Again, be sure to watch how the %'s for all 4 points are affected. 9) Once you have all 4 points in the Info palette registering within the limitations you want, just save the photo. (I suggest saving it now anyway before going on to any of the next adjustments.) 10) If the above adjustments in Curves don't give you results close enough to what you want, you can play with tweaking the diagonal line that runs across the box. You can grab it (with your left mouse button) anywhere along its length and bend it up or down. You can also slide up and down it as you bend it. Watch what happens to the percentages. You can even bend it up in one section and down in another. You can put as many points along the line as you want. In fact, if you're feeling adventurous, I suggest playing with this for a while to get the feel of it, even if you're not going to use it right now. If you screw up, you can undo any of your adjustments by grabbing any point you've added to the line and sliding it along the line until it's off the edge of the box. 11) One important caveat: Don't pay attention to what your photo looks like on your screen; it may or may not look the way it will when printed by LSI. If you stick to the percentages in the Info palette, you should get the results you want. -- -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user m
Re: [Gimp-user] important GIMP features for the future ?
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 22:03, Brendan wrote: > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 13:23, Allan Haverholm wrote: > > CMYK, CMYK,CMYK. > > > > 's all it needs. > > No, don't worry about that. Krita has that now. > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user In my experience Krita is very unstable and crashes a lot. And it lacks all the plugins of Gimp. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Startup values
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 23:49, Akkana Peck wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:01:18AM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: > > > When I start Gimp 2.3.7 it starts with a paintbrush. I would rather > > > it started with the rectangular select tool. Somewhere in > > > .gimp-2.3 is a value that sets this option I suspect. But I > > > haven't found it yet. > > Carol Spears writes: > > File/Preferences/Tool Options -- make certain that the tool you want > > active for each time you start GIMP is active and push the "Save Tool > > Options Now" button and also that the "Save Tool Options on exit" toggle > > is toggled off. > > That works for me, but if it doesn't work for you, try the > "Input Devices" category of Preferences and click on "Save Input > Device Settings Now". That should save the tool, colors, brush, > pattern and gradient for each device you have active (even if > all you use is the standard mouse). > > ...Akkana > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Thanks to both. I used Carol's technique and it is working so far. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Startup values
When I start Gimp 2.3.7 it starts with a paintbrush. I would rather it started with the rectangular select tool. Somewhere in .gimp-2.3 is a value that sets this option I suspect. But I haven't found it yet. Someone please give me a hint. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.7: xsane error: "failed to open device"
On Thursday 30 March 2006 18:20, John R. Culleton wrote: > On Thursday 30 March 2006 17:42, Colin Brace wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > On my Fedora Core 5 system, xsane 0.99 in standalone mode works fine > > with my scanner; it also works fine from within 2.2.10. But when I > > launch it from within 2.3.7, I get a peculiar error message: > > > > Failed to open device `gimp': > > Invalid argument > > > > Anyone have any idea what is going on? > > > > -- > > Colin Brace > > Amsterdam > > Works OK with Slackware-Current. Correction: Xsane 0.96 works OK. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.7: xsane error: "failed to open device"
On Thursday 30 March 2006 17:42, Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > On my Fedora Core 5 system, xsane 0.99 in standalone mode works fine > with my scanner; it also works fine from within 2.2.10. But when I > launch it from within 2.3.7, I get a peculiar error message: > > Failed to open device `gimp': > Invalid argument > > Anyone have any idea what is going on? > > -- > Colin Brace > Amsterdam Works OK with Slackware-Current. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help with colour matching problem and 'colorize'
On Monday 27 March 2006 22:54, Daniel Kasak wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm a casual Gimp user. I have to make a brochure front-cover thing, > consisting of a collection of existing images. I'm having trouble with > colours. > > One particular image ( which is mostly blue, and is a large JPEG file ) > copies and pastes correctly into a new image. When I print it, however, > it turns quite cyan. I thought this might just be my printer drivers or > something ( Epson R1800 with the latest gutenprint / gimpprint drivers > ), but then I noticed something very interesting. > > When I select the layer with the blue image, right-click, and select: > > Layer ==> Colors ==> Colorize ... > > the blue image turns the *exact* colour that it turns out when printed - > cyan. I've tried playing with the 'Hue' and 'Lightness' sliders. I can > sort-of get a colour similar to the original, but not really. If I click > 'Cancel', the colour returns to the original colour. > > What's going on ( specifically, why does the blue layer change colours > the moment I open the 'colorize' dialog, and is this related to the > colour of the final print ), and is my colour matching problem something > I'm doing wrong / something I can fix? > > Thanks :) > > Dan Gimp works in the RGB color model and printers use the CMYK color model. CMYK cannot recreate all the shades available with RGB. The programmers of Gimp are working on the problem but they aren't there yet. Some tools that work in the CMYK model are Scribus and the crash-prone Krita. For your brochure task I would try Scribus. Don't expect the range of filters etc. found in Gimp but for creation of a brochure, and seeing which colors work I would go for it. There is a function in Scribus that checks for out of gamut colors in e.g., a photo and colors them green so you can evaluate the impact. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multicolor pinwheel effect.
On Monday 27 March 2006 11:30, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi John, > > making the gradient match exactly the circle will be the tough bit, but > there's a nice trick to doing something like this: > > 1. Create a square image > 2. Make a gradient that you want to use (I created a gradient with red > at both ends, and a "HSV clockwise" blend mode) > 3. Blend fill your rectangle > 4. Add a white to transparent gradient on the bottom for the center of > your circle (otherwise it'll look funny) > 5. Apply a 'polar coordinates' filter > > You should get a pinwheel effect. To change the pinwheel, you just need > to change the gradient. > > Cheers, > Dave. Sounds good. Will the rays of color be straight or curved? Perhaps I need to put the gradient on a diagonal for this effect. I will experiment! I should mention that after I create the graphic I will select just a portion of it for the background. So the center is not critical. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Multicolor pinwheel effect.
I want to create a multicolor pinwheel effect for a background, with the arms of each shade radiating out from a hub and curved rather than straight. And I want the colors to blend into each other as in a gradient. A rainbow gradient is an obvious starting point. Would anyone like to suggest a sequence of tools to arrive at this effect? I will post this query elsewhere, but will not crosspost. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gui
On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:50, Michael Schumacher wrote: > Rhys Sage wrote: > > Ok. So Ubuntu is recommended. How about a GUI? I can't > > say I really care for either KDE or Gnome. I did see > > one called Athene that looked pretty nice but I don't > > know what it'd run on. > > Could it be that the person who's answering you is sending mails in > private? From the point of view of the list, only the half of the > conversation seems to be getting here. > > > Michael GUIs are tools just like any other software. What they look like should be subordinate to what they do. I find that sticking with KDE is a safe bet. I use Slack and Patrick Volkerding has already kicked Gnome off the island. If "look pretty nice" is a biggie with the other person I suggest that here are plenty of themes for him to play with on either KDE or Gnome. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] lcd or crt monitor
On Saturday 18 March 2006 16:44, Gracia M. Littauer wrote: > which is preferred for graphics? I've heard that lcd is not good. Even among crt monitors there are different levels of capability. I bought used on ebay a Sony CPD-G520 which has color temperature settings etc. New this class of monitor costs over $1,000 each. In general with crts you get what you are willing to pay for. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Time to stick a fork in the GIMP?
On Monday 13 March 2006 10:10, Olivier Ripoll wrote: > Michael Schumacher wrote: > > wayne wrote: > >> http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/07/1813207 > >> > >> Saw the above article on Newsforge. > > > > Well, it shows that the author doesn't read the OpenUsability forum. Of > > course, this makes it a suitable article for NewsForged, but without > > proof for the authors claims it is worthless. > > > > I'd highly recommend and appreciate it if anyone who wants to > > participate in the discussion that will take place in this thread reads > > the relevant sources (OpenUsability forum, GIMP mailing list archives, > > news group and Bugzilla for threads concerning GIMPShop) himself and in > > whole. Thank you. > > > > > > Michael > > Hi Michael, > > I have been searching for the bugzilla for occurrences of the word > "gimpshop" and cannot find anything except a small refernce to changing > the name of the "dialogs" menu (*). > > Do you have any bug in mind ? I might have not used the bugzilla search > function very efficiently. > > Thanks in advance, > > Regards, > > Olivier. > > (*) Well, I found 4 bugs, but in 2, "gimpshop" is just used to say > "works for me in gimp and gimpshop" and in the third, "gimpshop" looks > like a misspelling of "gimpshot" > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user AFAIK Gimpshop or gimp-shop is an offshoot of Gimp that is not well regarded here because of procedural issues. It apparently tries to put the look and feel of Photoship onto Gimp. I would search Google to find out more. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Time to stick a fork in the GIMP?
On Sunday 12 March 2006 09:44, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > "John R. Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > There has been a history of Gimp leadership downplaying the needs > > of the DTP world. In particular the CMYK color model has been > > avoided. Now there is (slow) movement in that direction, but CMS > > profiles are needed as well. > There has been what? I have been pushing the introduction of color > management using ICC profiles for quite a while. The need for other > color models and high color depths has been acknowledged years ago > when we decided that we need to redesign the GIMP core to be able to > handle all this. I have been supporting anyone who has expressed > his/her interest to work on the GIMP code. > I apparently misinterpeted what I had read earlier. So I look forward to more facilities in support of DTP including CMYK output and CMYK visibility onscreen, even if the actual work is done in RGB. In this context PostScript and evenually PDF output is part of the puzzle too. I use TeX and pdftex won't take a TIFF file as input. Apparently there are too many variants. In the meantime I will try to locate the PostScript output code (again) and try to clean it up a bit, as we discussed many moons ago. Thanks for your continued efforts. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Time to stick a fork in the GIMP?
On Saturday 11 March 2006 17:00, Michael Schumacher wrote: > wayne wrote: > > http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/07/1813207 > > > > Saw the above article on Newsforge. > > Well, it shows that the author doesn't read the OpenUsability > forum. Of course, this makes it a suitable article for > NewsForged, but without proof for the authors claims it is > worthless. > > I'd highly recommend and appreciate it if anyone who wants to > participate in the discussion that will take place in this > thread reads the relevant sources (OpenUsability forum, GIMP > mailing list archives, news group and Bugzilla for threads > concerning GIMPShop) himself and in whole. Thank you. > > > Michael There has been a history of Gimp leadership downplaying the needs of the DTP world. In particular the CMYK color model has been avoided. Now there is (slow) movement in that direction, but CMS profiles are needed as well. Meanwhile other products are coming to the fore that have CMYK and CMS capabalities from the start. Among products usable today there is Inkscape the drawing program and Scribus, which is more of a Quark replacement. But a more direct alternative in terms of replacing Gimp functionality is Krita, part of the Koffice site but not normally distributed with it. Krita is buggier than a summer picnic and crashes are frequent. But development is proceeding rapidly and the feature set is already impressive. It calls itself a "painting and image editing" program, which is Gimp territory to be sure. And one of the principal developers asked me what plug ins I especially liked in Gimp, to give him some rainy day projects. And it already has CMYK and CMS profiles. By no means am I ready to jump ship. But I keep my eyes on these other alternatives. Gimp either meets the DTP challenge or will have to face a Photoshop port or clone someday. And keep an eye on Krita. In the meantime Inkscape and Scribus have a symbiotic relationship. Both are pretty stable. Both can handle the CMYK color model. The combined functionality is pretty good. Not Gimp-level to be sure, but improving. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Smoothing screen shots.
Those writing software manuals have frequent need to incorporate screen shots. Trouble is, screen shots at 72 or 75 dpi are likely to create moire patterns when reproduced by some POD printers such as LSI. So a tool is needed to blend the dots while retaining legibility. What is the consensus technique for attacking this problem? Despeckle is the obvious choice, but is it optimal? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Building multicolor gradients.
I want to build a gradient with three (or more) colors. Under 2.3.7 the "new gradient" routine only allows or a start and an end color. What am I missing? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
> That is possible. You can already do that in GIMP 2.2, but I admit > that using the Softproof filter in 2.2 is somewhat tedious. This will > be improved in 2.4. It allows you to work in RGB but the screen (if > properly calibrated using a monitor profile) will show you what the > print will look like, taking the printer color profile into > account. And that is indeed the workflow everyone is converting to > nowadays. It really doesn't make much sense to work in CMYK except for > special tasks like using spot colors. In 2.3.7 I don't see a softproof filter. Do I need 2.2.x. to use it? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Twice before
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 18:22, Alf Lacis wrote: > Twice in the last couple of weeks I've asked about unfading old > photographs, and this has not appeared on the gimp user forum. > > Is this the wrong place to ask about using gimp? > By the evidence, not. I received your post. Are you talking B/W or color? There are tools to change color saturation and also grayscale curves. I am hopeful that someone more expert than I will jump in to supplement my vague advice with real instructions. > Regards, > Alf Lacis > Senior Software & Design Engineer > A.i. Scientific Pty Ltd > 10-22 Hornibrook Esplanade > CLONTARF QLD 4019 > AUSTRALIA > Ph: (+617 or 07) 3105 5087 > www.aiscientific.com > "More of the ambassadors from other countries had arrived at the > university, and more heads of the Guilds were pouring in, and every single > one of them wanted to be involved in the decision-making process without > necessarily going through the intelligence-using process first." > -- Terry Pratchett "The Last Hero" > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 03:26, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > "John R. Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am evaluating two products to use while waiting for Gimp to > > adopt the CMYK color model, Scribus and Krita (part of Koffice). > > Scribus is really a Quark replacement and Krita (inspired in part > > by Gimp is still in an early stage. The Krita manual says it will > > do CMYK but my copy doesn't have it yet. It is however very > > Gimp-ish in look and feel. > > I hope you are aware that using the CMYK color model is not going to > solve your print problems. Actually for most image manipulation needs > your source images will be in an RGB color space and it is then > recommended to do all the work in RGB and to let the printer driver > care about the rest. Printers often specify CMYK color model for finished color work sent to them in either pdf or tiff format. And the color shift caused by the lower gamut of CMYK can be serious, especially where flesh tones are concerned. Obviously what is seen on screen is presented in RGB. but if it starts from a CMYK base image then the CMYK color gamut will be properly presented. It is a proper subset of RGB. I understand that major surgery needed to bring Gimp up to the capabilities of e.g., Photoshop in the CMYK area. But the fact remains this lack of CMYK and also ICC color profiles puts Gimp at a disadvantage to other programs where printing is concerned. Let me quote from a recent book, "Book Design and Production", by Pete Masterson: "For professional designers, [Photoshop] Elements is crippled by not being able to work in the CMYK color space---a requirement if you are preparing color artwork for printing." Or as my own father used to say "Don't fight the problem." The problem is that most printers expect or demand CMYK. Either you produce artwork in CMYK model to start with or you prepare it in RGB and then convert it---and hope. Perhaps command or plugin titled as "use CMYK gamut" could convert a Gimp image to the gamut of CMYK but leave it in RGB. Each RGB tone would be converted to the nearest CMYK equvalent. Is this possible? That feature would give the user an idea of what the printed output would look like while leaving the base image in a more limited version of RGB color space. A table of named colors used in a document, expressd in CMYK notation and in RGB notation, is embedded in every sla file produced by Scribus. Scribus sla files are in plain text XML format. If you like I can send you a sample. If not, not. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
On Monday 20 February 2006 07:38, Doug wrote: > Paul Waldo wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows. > > I am currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management > > capabilities. I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo > > 1280, with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount. > > System specifics below. Does anyone out there use gimp for serious > > printing? If so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve > > color fidelity. Thanks in advance! I am evaluating two products to use while waiting for Gimp to adopt the CMYK color model, Scribus and Krita (part of Koffice). Scribus is really a Quark replacement and Krita (inspired in part by Gimp is still in an early stage. The Krita manual says it will do CMYK but my copy doesn't have it yet. It is however very Gimp-ish in look and feel. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual
On Friday 17 February 2006 17:42, Axel Wernicke wrote: > > both - html and pdf versions are more or less automatically build > from docbook (xml) sources. Since building the html files is much > more robust to inconsintencies like missing image files etc. they are > available in more recent versions than the pdf files are. Building > them is more art then science right now... > > ... feel free to get involved! > > > Best, I'll look into it to see if I have something to contribute. As a professional indexer I might be able to help in that department. I use TeX plus Makeindex to generate indexes. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual
haknOn Friday 17 February 2006 15:57, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > "John R. Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not > > come with an index. I am thinking of preparing my own (which I > > will share of course.) Has anyone found an index to this manual > > on the site? > > The manual is written in Docbook XML. It should be a lot easier to > generate a PDF that contains an index than to attempt to create one > manually. Especially since the manual index will be outdated pretty > soon. The manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis. > > > Sven Thanks for your reply. Are the docbook sources posted somewhere? If so I could download them and go through the usual index generation steps. When you say the manual is undergoing changes on a daily basis are you referring to the downloadable pdf or just the html versions? The date on the manual I downloaded was December 28, 2005. I assume it is the latest pdf version. Best, John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual
On Friday 17 February 2006 15:54, Axel Wernicke wrote: > Am 17.02.2006 um 21:42 schrieb John R. Culleton: > > The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not > > come with an index. > > This might be true for the dec issue of the english manual but is > rather a temporarily weakness of the pdf production process ( docbook > -> (la)tex -> pdf ) then a general problem. The german version I've > build a couple of days ago has an index. > > > I am thinking of preparing my own (which I > > will share of course.) > > You want to prepare what? An index or a manual? The first one is > already done in each docbook chapter. (Well, it *might* be that there > is room for improvements of course :) > As the subject line implies I am talking about a BOB index. There is a page for it but no index. So someone needs to run LaTeX or pdflatex twice to get the index properly included in the pdf file. If the html version has an index, and the pagination is the same as the pdf file, I can use that index instead of course. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Presets
I want to change some of the presets for Gimp 2.3.7. I did this once before but I don't remember which files store the information. The presets I am particularly intersted in changing are the ones for the units on the image window rulers and some things on the PostScript file save menu. Can anyone point me to the right source code modules? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Index for Gimp manual
The pdf file for the Gimp Users Manual. Dec 2005 edition does not come with an index. I am thinking of preparing my own (which I will share of course.) Has anyone found an index to this manual on the site? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] 2.3.6 on Slack current
I upgraded my Slack-current partition via swaret, which has its own set of problems. I manually downloaded and installed libcairo.so.2 from the Slack site. My adventures with Parser.pl have already been described. Anyhow bottom line I now have a working copy of 2.3.6 on site. The Gimp on Slack-current is now up to 2.2.10 which is nice. Which one I actually use depends on how far off the latest documentation is from the 2.3.x series. It looks like Slack 11 and Gimp 2.4 will play nicely together. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 12:32, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Colin Brace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around > > I hope you are also aware of the GIMP user manual which is hosted at > http://docs.gimp.org/. > > > Sven > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It is available in pdf form which is a big help. I am probably going to print out the main portion. Three questions: 1.There is no index in the pdf copy. Is one available elsehere? 2. The current edition is dated December and is current as of 2.2.x apparently. That is excellent. Now, is there any indication of when a 2.4 based version would be available? In other words if 2.4 came out in, say, March 2006 in what month would an updated manual be expected? 3. I still have in a ring binder the 900 plus page manual written by Karin and Olof Kylander. Is the current manual related to that manual or are they separate publications? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 12:11, Colin Brace wrote: > In the process of learning Gimp (ongoing project), I've wondered about > the absence of books dedicated to it, at least since 2001 or > thereabouts. I am therefore intrigued to (finally) see a new title, > now preannounced on Amazon.com: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590595874/104-2820490-0282337 > > As a suggested purchase, Amazon pairs it with > O'Reilly's Pocket Reference (2000), documenting Gimp 1.2 > > Yes, I realize the author actively participates in this ML. > > Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around, a > well-written, well-edited manual and reference work will be very > useful, and I look forward to seeing this work when it appears in > April. > > -- > Colin Brace > Amsterdam Gimp is a moving target. An author of a 500 page book has to pick a version or versions and write around those. On this list many/most are not so much concerned with installation problems but keeping up with the changes in the user interface and also new features such as possible embryonic CMYK capabilities. So I would be interested in a book built around some recent version, if not 2.4 then at least 2.3xx. If someone comes up with a book that is smaller, cheaper and more up to date I will buy it. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Friday 10 February 2006 04:46 pm, Michael Schumacher wrote: > John R. Culleton wrote: > > Not at all. I was noting that on two different flavors of linux > > it is necessary to download and install material beyond that > > contained in the Gimp download in order to get it to compile. And > > that wasn't true in prior versions. > > Um... you're kidding, right? > > GTK+ > Glib > libpng > libjpeg > gcc > make > ... > > are also required and not included. All these and Perl are either included in a standard "full" installation of e.g., Slackware or Debian Sarge, As I stated earler previous editions of Gimp have compiled without difficulty. I have Slackware Current up to date as of yesterday. I have Debian Sarge up to date as of yesterday. I can compile older versions of Gimp. My concern is not so much with 2.3.x but with 2.4. If that stable version requires software bits and pieces not found on most Linux systems and not downloadable from ww.gimp.org then there is trouble ahead. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Thursday 09 February 2006 07:08 pm, Michael Schumacher wrote: > John R. Culleton wrote: > > Heh. I set up Debian sarge, downloaded Gimp 2.3.8? and tried to > > compile. Now I am back to the missing XML::Parser problem again. > > Did you ignore my first mail in this thread? > > > Michael Not at all. I was noting that on two different flavors of linux it is necessary to download and install material beyond that contained in the Gimp download in order to get it to compile. And that wasn't true in prior versions. Perhaps the missing module should be put in with the Gimp tarball if that is legal and practical. Thanks for your assistance. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Saturday 04 February 2006 08:28 pm, John R. Culleton wrote: > On Friday 03 February 2006 08:37 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 07:58:24PM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: > > > On Friday 03 February 2006 02:57 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > > > > > > Now I have a problem with GLIB. Versions up thorugh gimp 2.3.3 > > > don't have the problem.. Versions newer than that complain about an > > > obsolete GLIB. I updated glib to 2.8.2 and now there is a mismatch > > > between what I have and what some program finds. There are lots of > > > clever hints printed out about how to get around the problem, none of > > > which work for me. > > Unstable gimp form 2.3.4 on requires glib with numbers 2.8.0 or > higher, Even with an update from Slack -current the newest glib > is 2.6.6. I may have to set up a Debian partition just for Gimp. Heh. I set up Debian sarge, downloaded Gimp 2.3.8? and tried to compile. Now I am back to the missing XML::Parser problem again. This is a fresh compile on a new partion with a different version of linux. I suggest that there myust be something awry other than the nut in front of the keyboard. Maybe something needs to be included in Gimp 2.4 when it comes out. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
