Re: [MBZ] Request

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Welcome Patrick!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Patrick Atuonah via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have sent request for help be posted to the forum and I have not seen it.
> Am I rejected?
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Hey Gerry -NOW VACCINES

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Give me Liberty, or give me COVID-19!  I'll gamble big, and bet against the
99.99% odds that the Wuhan Red Death will get me.  Evolution won't be
impacted, SWMBO and Daughter will get a nice big fat INSCO pay-out should I
get to heaven before them.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 12:08 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe they will have a big anti-vaxxer convention. Indoors, of course. With
> an open bar.
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Dog pee again

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Here, try this and let us know.

https://www.biocidesystems.com/

I think Amazon has it for a good price.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 6:02 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We removed the sheet rock from the wall and it ended up just being about 5
> inches up a few feet long. Rather than replace Sheetrock and paint again,
> we are just going to go with wider trim that covers it up. Anyway, it
> smells better out there with that removed but still stinks. I think the
> dogs pissed all over the brick and it’s soaked into the brick and mortar.
> See photos you can see where it’s darker at the bottom. We have scrubbed
> these bricks many times, sprayed them with various cleaners, bleach etc. I
> don’t see anyway of getting the smell out. What about putting a clear coat
> of some sort on it to seal it up so the smell doesn’t keep seeping out of
> the brick?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Another way to get rid of those funky smells in your car

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Craig, worth a look.  Cheaper than buying an ozone generator to
treat a single car or maybe a couple, and maybe easier on the interior
materials (plastic and leather).
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:33 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Auto-Shocker-Odor-Eliminator-p/3213.htm
>
> Biocide Systems 3213 Auto Shocker Odor Eliminator is guaranteed to remove
> extreme lingering stench in your Car in as little as 5 hours. The Auto
> Shocker harnesses the super power of chlorine dioxide to not just mask
> but, easily remove awful set in odors like cigarette, cigar, pets,
> spoiled food, vomit, musty odors and more. Will effectively deodorize any
> Car up to 250 cubic feet of interior space.
>
>  * Safe for all car interiors
>  * Non-aerosol, eco-friendly, and 100 % biodegradable
>  * Will permanently remove odors not just mask them
>  * Good for one vehicle of up to 250 cubic feet of interior space
>  * Easy to use; simply shake, add water and walk away
>  * Non toxic - leaves no harmful residue to clean up and is
>   non-carcinogenic
>  * Stronger and safer than ozone machines or any other odor elimination
>   product on the market today
>  * Includes instructions, white micro generator pouch sealed in foil
>   packet, and water measuring cup
>  * Made in the USA
>  * Important Note: This product cannot be shipped by air!
>
> https://youtu.be/6MMb1DDDnMk
>
>
> Craig
>
> --
> Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo   354 kmi
>  '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville   230 kmi
>  (the Big Red Van, BRV)
>  '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
>
>Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
>  '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
>  '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
>  '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
>  '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
>  '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
>  '86 190E/2.3
>  '72 220/8
>  '61 Willys Utility Wagon
>  '59 Willys Utility Wagon
>  '67 Volkswagen Fastback
>  '64 190Dc  Emma
>  '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
>  '69 Lotus Europa
>  '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
>  '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Hey, You Screwed Up -

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Guy I used to know had a piston paperweight, it had multiple deep imprints
of a screw or nut or something.  The damage was found when the engine (some
American muscle car) was rebuilt for other reasons, he thought it was
pretty funny how such damage was unknown and not suspected until they took
it apart.

Once I dropped a nut down the oil drain return (from the head into the oil
pan) on a '90 Honda Accord.  I panicked, felt sick, was just beating myself
up.  Talked to a mechanic about how to pull the oil pan, he laughed, then
he loaned me a magnetic retrieval tool, I stuck that down the oil drain and
'click' the nut came right back out.  Whew!  Turns out it only made it a
few inches down the drain.  Since then I'm very careful to plug up such
holes with rags or paper towels.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:17 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My Falcon once sucked a screw into the carburetor, made quite a racket
> once it
> was embedded in a piston top, whacking merrily against the head.
>
> 20 minutes later the head was off and the screw removed, another 20 minutes
> to put the head back on, re-using the gasket, and we were on the road
> again.
> Pre-emissions carbureted inline 6 pushrod engine, _so_ easy to work on...
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Highest Mileage MB You’ve Owned

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My '87 300TD (The White Whale) is coming up on 399k miles, I've put on
about 120k of those.  Going to keep her going past 400k but the rust and
water intrusion is driving me pretty crazy.  I've owned this car for about
12 years now.  Engine and transmission are very strong but she does use
about a quart of oil every 1500 miles or so.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:30 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 478K miles, 1977 240D, manual
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Proclamation on Patriot Day, 2020

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 In 2001, our Nation, united under God, made an unbreakable promise never
to forget the nearly 3,000 innocent Americans who were senselessly killed
on September 11.  On this sacred day — Patriot Day — we solemnly honor that
commitment.  As the bells toll, we call by name those who perished in the
terrorist attacks in New York, New York; Arlington, Virginia; and
Shanksville, Pennsylvania.  In cities and towns across our great country,
we stand in solidarity to remember the victims and mourn their stolen hopes
and dreams.

On a day that began as ordinary as any other, terrorists carrying out a
sadistic plan murdered thousands of our fellow compatriots.  With shock and
disbelief, we watched our first responders, encumbered by heavy equipment
and hindered by debris and smoke, rush with conviction and courage into the
void to rescue those in despair.  With pride and sorrow, we felt the
tremendous bravery of those aboard Flight 93, who summoned the courage to
charge the terrorists in a counterattack that saved countless American
lives.  As the day closed, America steadied its resolve to hold accountable
those who had attacked us and to ensure it would never happen again.

The courage, heroism, and resilience Americans displayed on 9/11, and in
its aftermath, are perpetual testaments to the spirit of our country.
While our Nation was anguished by this attack, the grit displayed that day
— the very essence of America — was a reminder that our citizens have never
failed to rise to the occasion.  Heroes sprang into action in the face of
great peril to help save their fellow Americans.  Many laid down their
lives.  As we reflect on the events of that September morning, let us
recommit to embrace the stalwart bravery displayed and reaffirm our
dedication to defending liberty from all who wish to deny it.

To fulfill our collective promise never to forget, we impart the memory of
that fateful day to our children and grandchildren.  The smoke that rose
from the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and the Pennsylvania field carried away
the souls of innocent Americans.  As we recall the images of our American
Flag raised from the ashes of Ground Zero and the Pentagon, we are reminded
that good triumphs over evil.  We recommit ourselves to fortifying our
cherished American values so that future generations will know in their
souls that the United States is the land of the free and the home of the
brave.

This Patriot Day, we commemorate the lives of those who perished on
September 11, 2001, we pray for the families who carry on their legacies,
and we honor the unmatched bravery of our Nation’s first responders.  We
also commend those who, in the days and years following the attack,
answered the call to serve our country and continue to risk their lives in
defense of the matchless blessings of freedom.

By a joint resolution approved December 18, 2001 (Public Law 107-89), the
Congress designated September 11 of each year as “Patriot Day.”

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of
America, do hereby proclaim September 11, 2020, as Patriot Day.  I call
upon all departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the United States
to display the flag of the United States at half-staff on Patriot Day in
honor of the innocent people who lost their lives on September 11, 2001.
I invite the Governors of the United States and its Territories and
interested organizations and individuals to join in this observance.  I
call upon the people of the United States to participate in community
service in honor of the innocent people we lost that day and to observe a
moment of silence beginning at 8:46 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time to honor
those victims who perished as a result of the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this tenth day of
September, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty, and of the
Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and
forty-fifth.
DONALD J. TRUMP

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-patriot-day-2020/
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Before, during, and after

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, nice work.

Is it me, or does the room look much smaller with the pergo?  Maybe you
took the 'after' pix with a different camera?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:53 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 1972 280SE 4.5 V8 Parts Car Runs 108 Body - $1, 850 (Franklin, NC)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

GREEN!!!




...carpets, brown seats and door cards.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 12:28 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> An honest description.  I would think the parts on this car would be
> worth the price
>
>
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/pts/d/pickens-mercedes-se-45-v8-parts-car/7186347048.html
>
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT - Pipe from ground

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe a grounding rod?
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death - Keeping Perspective

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This Doc makes some good points.  I'll summarize.

1) For children, far more are dying from seasonal flu than from the Wuhan
Red Death (aka coronavirus).  Let me repeat that: Deaths from seasonal flu
FAR EXCEED deaths from WRD in the pediatric population.  This is important,
parents should be empowered to decide what is safe and what is not safe for
their children, and clearly the risk of illness or death from WRD should
not be a consideration that keeps kids out of school.

2) The impact of the response to the virus is far worse for kids than the
virus itself.  Suicides are up 25% (in kids), suicidal ideation has
doubled, and depression is up 400%.  What society chooses to do this to
their children?  Answer: follow the money, who is benefiting from this?

https://youtu.be/1mfhZSrSngQ

Also some very good points on Hydroxychloroquine and how that has become a
political football.

-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Amazon Delivery Clown Trying to Buy My W124

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

OK, I'll go to $2650 for the cab.  Check OK?  I've got one made out for $5k
you can cash and return the change to me.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 9:57 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got this cab listed at $3500 firm. Seems like a good deal to me. Got a
> guy wanting to wire me the money. I have to get back home first. Had
> somebody message me last night asking if it is available. Ad clearly states
> if it’s listed it’s still available. I let them know at the moment it is
> but somebody is supposed to be buying it this weekend. They respond today
> with they will give me $2500 for it. Ooook. The sheer stupidity of
> people amazes me.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That’s the response I use when I get a stupid low offer on something on
> CL or FBM. Offer me $500 for a $2k car? I’ll counter at $2500.
> >
> > But think of all the blessings you would get, Bob!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Aug 21, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I love the idea that he would approach you and then expect you to
> basically give it to him. When he said $500 I'd have countered with $3000
> for wasting my time...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>   On Thursday, August 20, 2020, 10:26:42 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >> AN Amazon delivery dude, driving a brand new 2500 GMC DuraMax, lifted,
> gaudy looking, rang my doorbell and asked me if my 300D was for sale. I
> told him everything is always for sale, typically. He said his little
> brother (his delivery cohort) just moved into town and he needed a car so
> he and his wife and new baby could get around. I told him $2K and the AC
> needs a fresh charge of R12 (I haven’t done it this year because I’m not
> driving it hardly at all).
> >> So immediately they were asking “what’s your bottom line….new wife and
> baby…..Jesus will bless you….will you take $500”. When I quickly said no,
> the brother said, “let’s gamble for it. I win, you sell it to him for $500.
> You win, we give you $2k.”
> >>
> >> I laughed and said something akin to get lost, asshat.
> >>
> >> Bob R.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I keep my Benzes in the hangar with my DC-3

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice pix, love the DC-3!  Price is probably nutso but there is a sucker
born every minute...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 9:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-original-sel/7181169163.html
>
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

If you live in a nice neighborhood like me you wouldn't have to put up with
such danger and inconvenience.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper
> that was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit
> by lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house  so
> the strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or
> something I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I
> was sitting so I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again.
>
> This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning
> induces a high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I
> need an arrestor or surge suppressor or something on the network interface
> but it doesn’t sink in.  So they send me a new modem every couple of years.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Taildraggers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice, thanks for sharing.  Which plane(s) are the 240D of the skies?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:56 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KKtLIuitB4
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Long distance car deals

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ask your bank.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 5:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got some dude off benzworld wanting to buy my cab. He says he wants to
> wire me the money but wants a copy of the registration, and my ID. I have
> had people wire money before on cars but don’t recall them needing this.
> Does this sound fishy?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So somebody really wants the parts or something.

My email had a type, should say "I would not bid..." vice "but".

Decent condition CDI's are coming up for $5k or so around here, I'll be
Kaleb sees them go for $2 or $3 or maybe less, so pretty nutso that someone
will buy that wreck and think they're going to put a bumper / hood / fender
/ door and who know what else, get it all painted and straight, and be
money ahead compared to buying something that doesn't need all that work
and probably that CDI on copart has a salvage title too.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sun, August 16, 2020 9:35 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yes that CDI is the last year with the straight six.  I would not but
> > more than $500.
>
> It's already around $1500 with fees and taxes.
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W116 windshield glass

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I suppose on a nice car with comprehensive insurance (USAA) I might be able
to insist on the dealer glass, but all my cars are older than 1996 so I
can't really justify comprehensive insurance.  Maybe once I get the '95 124
Cabriolet going I'll put comprehensive on that, if it progresses beyond
beater condition.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 9:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Even so, in Florida comprehensive insurance coves any glass damage. The
> catch is that you have to use the supplier that your insurance company
> approves, so that usually means one of the national chains like Safelite,
> who won’t use OE glass. I’ve lost that fight on several occasions. If you
> demand it, they charge you big bucks, like $300-$400, out of pocket on top
> of the glass cost. That may be what your dealer is doing.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, you've developed a good rapport, I have not.  Pays to be nice!
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Aug 16, 2020 7:03:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
> >
> >> Really? That’s a scam. I’ve bought glass from my dealer for my glass
> guys several times in the past. Nothing different than any other part.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ouch, that stinks.  I'll bet there is aftermarket glass available.
> >>>
> >>> The MB dealer price for a windshield on my 124 sedan was only $500 for
> the
> >>> part, I thought that wasn't too bad, but they will only sell the glass
> with
> >>> an installation which is another $300 or more I'll bet.
> >>>
> >>> I'm convinced that the factory glass is thicker and will last longer.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Driving the 300SD tonight, took a rock in the windshield and now I
> have
> >>>> the typical bullseye with about a 10 inch crack running vertically
> right
> >>>> through the center driver's side.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this something that a place like Safelite would still be able to
> get
> >>>> glass for? Or am I looking at some kind of NOS search or used glass?
> >>>>
> >>>> Allan
> >>>>
> >>>> ___
> >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>>
> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>>
> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W116 windshield glass

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

124 is glued in place for the front, I think the rear glass has a seal.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:56 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 21:55:20 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > The MB dealer price for a windshield on my 124 sedan was only $500 for
> > the part, I thought that wasn't too bad, but they will only sell the
> > glass with an installation which is another $300 or more I'll bet.
>
> Ugh.
>
>
> > I'm convinced that the factory glass is thicker and will last longer.
>
> Does it then also seal better to the rubber window seals? Or is it glued
> in and without seals?
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] My kind of shady deal! 2004 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 350 Sport Utility 4D,$1,800

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Definitely sketchy.  Sounds like roommate has the keys and is trying to
flip it for some cash, or owner stopped making payments on the loan and is
trying to screw the loan company.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 3:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/354325985563761
>
> 2004 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 350 Sport Utility 4D
> $1,800
> Vehicles 
> Listed 2 hours ago in Raleigh, NC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 207,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 14.0 MPG city · 17.0 MPG highway · 15.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Leather Seats
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 4WD
>   *
> AM/FM Stereo
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Currently there is no title. If you want to buy with no title and file a
> lost title in your name, then that can be your option. It has been
> sitting for a month since the owner had surgery. Bumper is damaged due
> to backing pick up truck into it. Before his surgery new belts and belt
> Tensioner were installed. Vehicle starts and runs but runs rough, needs
> fresh oil change plugs coil pack and fuel cleaning. Bring a mechanic. Be
> blessed.
>
> --
> --FT
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Today’s project

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/7ztENhDCmu8?t=30

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 2:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W116 windshield glass

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch, that stinks.  I'll bet there is aftermarket glass available.

The MB dealer price for a windshield on my 124 sedan was only $500 for the
part, I thought that wasn't too bad, but they will only sell the glass with
an installation which is another $300 or more I'll bet.

I'm convinced that the factory glass is thicker and will last longer.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Driving the 300SD tonight, took a rock in the windshield and now I have
> the typical bullseye with about a 10 inch crack running vertically right
> through the center driver's side.
>
> Is this something that a place like Safelite would still be able to get
> glass for? Or am I looking at some kind of NOS search or used glass?
>
> Allan
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT a little unscripted commentary from the Milwaukee PD

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

We'd love to have you and anyone else!  I think this is the correct link to
subscribe, rules are "talk politics" but no porn, no profanity.

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/okietalk_okiebenz.com


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:32 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes apologies.
>
> I don't know how to post to any of those lists. Maybe someone can move it
> over.
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 8:28 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wrong list Karl, that belongs on okietalk.
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Aug 11, 2020 10:44:40 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/thebennyjohnson/videos/268043074619469
> > > 
> > >
> > >> ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Problems with Windows 10 Laptop

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have a Win10 box for work, which will appear to be sending / receiving
traffic (flashing lights on the ethernet port) even when "off", and when
I'm at home I just unplug the cable.  This computer does wake up if
sleeping (most of the time, sometimes I also have to do the hard reset).
Our home laptop with Win10 Pro has never had a problem waking up, but it is
always on WiFi.

I suspect the appearance of traffic on the ethernet cable is some Win10
'feature' so that it can connect to an enterprise network server (or a MS
server) to update afterhours.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Saving any of that floor is a  waste of time then, and at ~$50 per hour you
need to get the job done quickly.  Tile work is probably worth a lot more
than $50 per hour, so material is very cheap compared to labor.  In your
place, I'd do it once and do it right, rip it all up and slap down
waterproof laminate, or put down a real tile floor using the correct
thickness of subfloor and cement backerboard and then quality tile.  IIRC
correctly from when I did our kitchen floor about 15 years ago, the
subfloor and the cement backerboard with the tile cement in between them
end up to be about 3/4 of an inch thick, and very stiff; on top of that is
another layer of cement to hold the tile, and then the tile, so by the time
you are done the sandwich of material is about an inch thick or even more,
very stiff and very strong.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:12 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> PS we have saved enough tiles without breaking them we might be able to
> get away with just pulling up some tiles in the bathroom and replace with
> tiles we have on hand but I’m not really sure I want to deal with trying to
> do that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I really doubt it will dry through the tile.  Why not just remove the
> cracked tiles and see what's up?  If you find rot, you must keep removing
> tiles until you find the edges of the rot.
> >
> > Sounds like an inferior tile installation (should not crack unless
> severally abused).  Personally I think tile is best in a bathroom, but it
> is hard work to install it correctly.
> >
> > Do you have replacement tiles that match?  You might try just finding
> the rot edge, and fixing just that part then putting tile back in the
> patch.  However, if there is no cement backerboard under the tile (bad
> installation) then you need to rip and replace.
> >
> > Cement backerboard would have saved the wood subfloor for while, but
> going years with cracked tiles is not reasonable.  Backerboard should also
> make the floor stiff enough so tiles won't crack under normal use.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Aug 10, 2020 9:23:42 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> As we discovered the toilet was leaking and soaked the area under the
> house including the osb subfloor from the bottom. The flooring in the
> bathroom is ceramic tile. It is mostly in good shape but does have a couple
> of cracked tiles which have been that way for years. I am assuming that
> water probably got in under the tile? I have planned on pulling up all the
> tile, drying it out of wet from above, then see what or if subfloor needs
> to be replaced. Does this seem like the right approach or will the tile
> breathe to dry out any moisture under it? I am thinking the grout with be
> porous and breathable? If we pull it out we would probably go back in with
> one of those waterproof laminate flooring types.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Dan’s POS deals

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

You missed Charleston!  Turn around!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:58 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well the POS made it to Memphis for the night. No issues so far. This will
> probably end up being my daily driver.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Gun fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks very nice to me, never shot an auto-loader shotgun though.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 3:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Duck and goose season is coming up and my hunting buddy has been picking
> on my over and under shotgun since I've only got 2 shots to his 3. I shoot
> poorly enough he's got a point. I shot sporting clays yesterday and I
> didn't even bother to check my score, if I got 10 out of 50 I'd call it a
> win. In my defense I've got a sunburn on my shoulders and probably
> shouldn't have been shooting.
>
> I've got a pump gun but its setup with the slug barrel and shoots really
> well that way so I figured its time for a good duck/goose gun. I did a
> BUNCH of research and finally settled on a Browning Silver.
> https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/shotguns/silver.html
> The main reasons I picked the Silver specifically were the cool
> semi-humped receiver which looks a little like the Browning A5 which the
> then chief of Winchester called "The ugliest gun I've ever seen".
> The Silver is kinda-sorta out of production now, or at least the camo ones
> are but I found one on Gun Broker for $950, with shipping and the FFL fee
> here I'll be just over $1000.
> I'm pretty excited, my second new gun ever and by far the most expensive
> gun I've ever bought.
>
> Hopefully it'll be here by early next week...
> -Curt
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 123 CD

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

You should get it and flip on BaT.  Use the proceeds to buy supplies for
the coming storm.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is a local dude who has this 85 CD California car he has owned for
> the last 25 years. I posted about this a while back. Car has been sitting 5
> years under a carport and appears to be in good shape with 240k miles IIRC.
> Battery is dead but I’m pretty sure it will start with a new battery. I
> offer the guy $2k for it a while back but he did not want to sell. He hit
> me up today saying some guy working on their house offered him $2500 and
> wanted to know if I was still interested before he sold it to him. Do y’all
> think a car such as this would be worth somewhere around $4-5k now days? If
> so it might be worth taking a chance on. I know I have wanted this car for
> a long time seeing it drive around town.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] FCP Euro email

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I unsubscribed to their notices after the first one of these
virtue-signaling disappointments.  As noted, plenty of other places to buy
parts (Rusty - never forgotten!).
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:15 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am tempted to write back that I don't need any trendy politics to go
> with my parts...
>
>
> My name is Scott, and I’m the CEO of FCP Euro.
>
> At least once a year I like to reach out to the greater European car
> community to give a brief update on FCP Euro and get some feedback on
> how we’re doing. It’s been an eventful 2020, and I’m excited to share
> this update with you all today. At the end of this email you will find a
> short 2-minute survey
> <
> https://info.fcpeuro.com/e2t/tc/VXjLvZ618983W2V0mPZ4jkDrrW3cF4jk4d67R9N2F3N3h3p_9rV1-WJV7CgBd6W2nzNLH5cMBd0W102Q-q8gkmZ8W7cZyTC78bbVbW7PFhx749fCrVN85jQVPZNSrlW1tHDrF5JB5qCW6bn9cz4H8f9QW3FVw1n1WSn8TN8fhy6CPpCJNW3657Xb82k6rlW4bwhf81SzRJmW16t1LY2J8hPFW20jfHV417996W6Dzy046r1XyCN5kCq3bS7QDZW53D7fV7Rwbx3W3hYyqC5p0DDfW6b4fTJ57xV8sW1M2PyV52gvJvW7V4zPn2GCSdgW8lCd0y343CvhW7PBBhR4tP7FDW53-xPS2zRVVbN8cMdNvGD42WVZk4km5Hl5YqW2j-1xx28v_2q31n_1>
>  where
>
> you can provide feedback to me directly; I would love to hear from you.
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
>
> --
> --FT
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Friant

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Friant?  Never heard of that, but I suspect that is part of the problem...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:03 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> William Ennis
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/ManhattanWilliam?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R
> >
> Mercedes-Benz W123
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/139944109361922/?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R
> >
>
> 2 hrs
> ·
> QUESTION: Last year I had the ENTIRE AC repaired on my 1985 300CD,
> including removing the whole dash and replacing the evaporator - it was
> the most expensive repair I've ever done on the car and I'm the original
> owner! New compressor, relays and sensors and flaps to control air flow,
> the works! Well it just needed to have a friant recharge after blowing
> lukewarm. They put dye in the system and found no leaks and now ice cold
> again. IS IT possible/common that, even functioning perfectly, that it
> might lose friant with heavy use after one year?
> 15 Comments
> 2 Shares
>
>
>   Comments
>   <
> https://www.facebook.com/PAULJEAN116?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=R]-R
> >
>   <
> https://www.facebook.com/PAULJEAN116?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=R]-R
> >Jean
>   Paul
>   <
> https://www.facebook.com/PAULJEAN116?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=R]-R
> >
>
>   *
>
>
> Friant loss is normal. Have it measured / refilled regulary . Friant is
> very thin. it can escape even in new airco installations . After one
> year is a little soon tho.
>
> 1
>
> Steve Ellis
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/BethelTrailsFarm?__cft__[0]=AZWWaqlSOmJ8rDxgRrixDmFlxN3CawXydjBlgmUs-CCB6efsd0TwfoAcduJx4AOgt7Dd1uHZCNEm8KjrmfWjJx5dj49x4INDx4-znQeL4GONA1jFvLqcREYE1yI99t17hWgdMzLk1Grmbe_H7dMcEivtRWf_Ib0m-2qj5QJYs9pnDVh5mPrDPRReIWsx8OVZuLI&__tn__=R]-R
> >
> You must have a slow leak somewhere. It could be as simple as the
> shrader (service) valves.
> #
>
> --
> --FT
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Corpus Christi

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That is the name to not offend wymen, SJW version, probably meant to
denigrate straight white males, and they'll probably also figure out a way
to insult Christians, given a little more time.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 7:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok what the heck is that?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > May be a hizzicane before it makes landfall. NHC says it will be.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tropical storm. A bit of wind and rain. No big deal.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
>  On Jul 24, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A buddy of mine I work with is in Corpus Christi this week for an
> implementation.  He was supposed to fly out now but flight is delayed.
> Apparently there is a hurricane headed right for them. I was not paying
> attention to where it was headed.  They should have been paying attention
> and left early this morning, or yesterday.  Looks like they will be stuck
> there all weekend.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Dishwasher draining

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well, how much do you want to mess with it, that is the big question, or do
you just throw it out and get a new one.

How hard is it to open up the machine to get to the control card?  If
that's not too hard, and you are going to get paid for a new machine by the
home warranty people, do you want to spend their money on the old machine?
What happens if you fix this machine, then in another year or two it breaks
and you make another claim, will they say "No we totaled that washer
before, paid on that, so no warranty coverage for YOU!".
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 7:07 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Found one there, to get the part number then found it elsewhere for
> about $112.  Not sure if it is worth spending that. If I knew for sure
> it would fix it I would do it maybe.  I don't want to buy it and it not
> work.
>
> On 7/24/2020 5:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Maybe find one on Ebay?
> >
> > Maybe these guys?  https://www.appliancepartspros.com/
> >
> > Have a local appliance repair place that might have it in stock?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well that was a no go, I pulled both the fill and drain hose off it and
> >> tried it, same error.  The 3 pulses the pump does discharges water just
> >> fine though.  I am now suspecting some sort of control board issue.
> >> Looking at parts diagrams on various sites I see it in the diagram but
> >> the actual part is not listed. Maybe this is what the guy was talking
> >> about as not available anymore.  If that is the case, then no choice but
> >> to replace the washer.  Unbelievable.
> >>
> >> On 7/24/2020 5:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> So this is the only potential blockage I can find. This assembly mounts
> >> to the side of the washer. It appears to be to serve 2 purposes,
> draining
> >> and filling goes they it. At the bottom there are 2 ports one is the
> hose
> >> that comes out from the discharge pump. It flows into the elbow which
> flows
> >> to the other port at the bottom then out to the sink. The small nipple
> on
> >> the bottom is the water supply from the fill valve. Water comes in there
> >> and flows thru this unit and emptied out the big middle hole to the
> >> interior of the washer. On the elbow for the drain you can see a channel
> >> that routes around thru the unit and seems to connect with the 4th
> square
> >> port on the right that connects to nothing. The water supply channel
> also
> >> seems to connect to this venting system. You can see a section at the
> top
> >> right of the big hole that looks like it’s full of junk. Nearest I can
> tell
> >> there should not be any fluids flowing thru here but it looks dirty. I’m
> >> thinking this is all supposed to be air venting. There is no way to take
> >> this apart to clean it out. When the pump tried to run it pushed a small
> >> amount of fluid but I’m wondering if it is supposed to vent air and it
> had
> >> an air lock? Thoughts? This part is only about $20 so thinking about
> >> replacing it to see. I guess a test I cold do would be to route the hose
> >> from the pump output into a bucket and see if the washer turns on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Dishwasher draining

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe find one on Ebay?

Maybe these guys?  https://www.appliancepartspros.com/

Have a local appliance repair place that might have it in stock?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well that was a no go, I pulled both the fill and drain hose off it and
> tried it, same error.  The 3 pulses the pump does discharges water just
> fine though.  I am now suspecting some sort of control board issue.
> Looking at parts diagrams on various sites I see it in the diagram but
> the actual part is not listed. Maybe this is what the guy was talking
> about as not available anymore.  If that is the case, then no choice but
> to replace the washer.  Unbelievable.
>
> On 7/24/2020 5:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > So this is the only potential blockage I can find. This assembly mounts
> to the side of the washer. It appears to be to serve 2 purposes, draining
> and filling goes they it. At the bottom there are 2 ports one is the hose
> that comes out from the discharge pump. It flows into the elbow which flows
> to the other port at the bottom then out to the sink. The small nipple on
> the bottom is the water supply from the fill valve. Water comes in there
> and flows thru this unit and emptied out the big middle hole to the
> interior of the washer. On the elbow for the drain you can see a channel
> that routes around thru the unit and seems to connect with the 4th square
> port on the right that connects to nothing. The water supply channel also
> seems to connect to this venting system. You can see a section at the top
> right of the big hole that looks like it’s full of junk. Nearest I can tell
> there should not be any fluids flowing thru here but it looks dirty. I’m
> thinking this is all supposed to be air venting. There is no way to take
> this apart to clean it out. When the pump tried to run it pushed a small
> amount of fluid but I’m wondering if it is supposed to vent air and it had
> an air lock? Thoughts? This part is only about $20 so thinking about
> replacing it to see. I guess a test I cold do would be to route the hose
> from the pump output into a bucket and see if the washer turns on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mask wearing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I watched about the first 20 minutes, the first speaker went full $5 word
mode, and it was getting pretty hard for me to follow.  It sounded like he
was saying that the virus can infect a person via mouth, nose, eyes, and
throat and lungs.  Wearing a mask that increases a person's tendency to
touch their face seems counterproductive to me.  There is also no standard
for the mask type, and no training and no enforcement.  I see lots of
people that wear the mask so it covers their mouth but not their nose.  And
then there are the people wearing balaclavas and bandannas like they are
playing cowboys and Indians.  Lady I met the other day was making her own
masks out of panty hose or something, so they had some color to them but
did not impede breathing and make her glasses fog up, basically just mesh.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:34 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did anybody watch the video I sent a link to this AM? I get it if people
> dont have time but it addresses many of these questions.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem is we do not know if they help to contain the virus. They say
> > they think it might be spread by droplets from coughing etc. A report
> then
> > came out that it might be airborne. First we need to figure that out.
> Next,
> > what size is the virus? What micron rating are the masks?  So far these
> are
> > things we have not been told, or are not known. If I missed it somebody
> > please post that study.
> >
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mask wearing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sweden's death rate has been in steady decline, now down to about 10 people
per day, from a high of 100 per day.  I'd say their approach is looking
like it worked out just fine.  Compare them to Belgium, which went the full
lock-down route, and it is clear that lock-down vs. no lock-down does not
seem to change how the Wuhan Red Death moves through the population, but
the economic impacts are sure different.  Belgium had a peak of 300 per
day, and is also now down to about 2 per day.  Note that Sweden and Belgium
have very similar size populations.  Rather than blindly accepting what
they put on the evening news, I like to check some facts for myself, there
are plenty of websites that have tracking numbers.  I like this one:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/covid-19-tracker/

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sweden has shown that herd immunity is not working.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Reaching herd immunity before the rest of us?
> > Mitch.
> >
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Bosch Dishwasher

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have a Whirlpool cheapo that had a similar issue, the drain pump would
not drain.  I replaced the drain pump, still no drain action.  Only other
parts left were the wiring and the control board.  I tested the wires, they
seemed to be fine, so I replaced the control board and the problem was
fixed.

How much is a new control board?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 8:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So as you may recall the home service contract company sent sears over
> and the guy says the pump is bad and not avaialble so the dishwasher
> would have to be replaced.  The error code E25 (Might have been E24)
> indicated bad drain pump or blocked drain. I checked the line and it did
> not appear to be kinked and I do not see any blocked lines.  I ordered
> the drain pump for $30 and installed it today.  Took about 5-10 minutes,
> no big deal.  After powering it back on, it still does the same thing so
> I pulled the drain hose off the pump output, it is clear there.  I even
> blew into it and there is no blockage.  I pulled the pump again and
> checked to make sure the output housing where the pump goes then plugs
> into the hose was clear, it was.  When you power it on, pump runs in 3
> short intervals then stops.  I can see in the clear drain line it is
> pushing water, a small amount of water but if the pump ran continually I
> am sure it would drain.  It now pops up with error E25 and in red says
> Watertap.  I assumed this means something about the water supply.
> Checked to make sure water was on and it is.  Tomorrow I think I will
> pull the supply line to check to see if maybe there is a filter that is
> blocked.  Not sure what that would have to do with draining though.
>
> In the mean time the status of the service request is washer may be
> eligible for replacement. I called them the other day but could not
> understand them.  Sounded like they were going to fix washer but waiting
> on parts, no estimated time of arrival.  Wife called today and the
> "appliance dept" is supposed to call us by the 28th.  Still not sure if
> they are replacing it or what.  Not sure if that means they are going to
> buy some cheap machine or send check for whatever they cover on it and
> we can go get one on our own.
>
> I really hate to give up on it.  All the searching I see on this error
> say it is simple deal with making sure the impellers are clear (they
> are, pump is new), check for blockage (I have).  It seems like 4 years
> is a short time for a premium product.  Wonder if I should go with Bosch
> the next time or not.
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I can afford XKE? $7100?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sold at $19k.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 4:42 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Man, has a more phallic car ever been made?
> Serious temptation though, an e-type wouldn't stay at that price...
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 4:35:53 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Yeah, it's a 4.2 2+2 with a slushbox and needs TLC, but four digits??
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-jaguar-xke-22-18/
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] These cars have been known to make it to a million miles but unfortunately I have to let it go because of Covid

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Not a 124, that's a 201 "cheap" class.

Notice the picture of all the Uro parts that come with it?  Run away with
your hair on fire...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 3:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I noticed the stick, was interesting.  Could it be a euro model?  I
> don't know that much about 124 diesels
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/23/20 3:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> > Those don't look like 1987 headlights to me, but it's got 1987 turbo
> gills
> > on the right fender. Underhood pics show a turbo and interior pics show a
> > stick shift. Somebody built that.
> >
> > On Thu, July 23, 2020 10:48 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> 1986+87 Mercedes Benz 2.5L turbodiesel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmington-mercedes-benz-25l-turb
> >> odiesel/7161034759.html
> >>
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Mask wearing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Another thing that I've heard is going on, the rich get the instant test,
and only go into treatment if needed.  The poor get the slow test, and
while waiting for the results they get hospitalized in a room full of other
poor people also waiting for test results, so if they didn't have it when
they arrived, they surely end up with the Wuhan Red Death by the time they
leave.  "Here's your mask, wait over there, we'll tell you when you're
sick!"  Personally I'm going to do everything I can to stay away from
Hospitals, too many people die there.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:04 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The cases I think are in areas with certain demographics.  My boy is
> doing ICU duty in San Jose now, where the cases were a lot higher than
> in towns with higher socioeconomic numbers.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/23/20 4:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Have you seen the news from California?  I think their Mando Mask
> wearing started over 30 days ago, but infection rate is still climbing and
> death rate too.  Masks alone are not the answer.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Jul 23, 2020 1:25:22 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
> >
> >> Well, that was Arkansas, after all ...
> >> IIRC, the incidence of colds and old style flu are way down since social
> >> distancing and masks.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 12:11 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> After traveling by air last week and spending this week in Arkansas
> where
> >>> it is mandatory masks, I’m convinced this is causing red death to
> spread
> >>> faster. People fiddle with them, remove them, touch things then fiddle
> with
> >>> and touch the mask. They might as well wipe down surfaces with the mask
> >>> then put it on their face and breath it in. I misspoke, this might not
> be
> >>> spreading red death but is almost certainly spreading plenty of other
> >>> things that normally would it be spread like this.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> >> Von Braun
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Study: Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Karl, I took a quick look at the first three on your list.  The
first discusses the fluid flow of droplets from coughing and sneezing, and
yes that is pretty much common sense that if one is coughing / sneezing
then wearing a mask is a good thing.  No argument there.  Even better, do
what has always been recommended
by medical professionals: Stay home when you are sick!

The second paper relies on a lot of assumptions and estimates and (here we
go again) models to reach their conclusions.  We all know how dishonest
researchers can manipulate the models (see global warming) to get the
results we want.  No thanks.

The third paper is not yet peer reviewed but strongly recommends that
countries that had their populations wear masks saw a large decrease in the
infection rate.  However some countries that did not impose mask wearing
also did not suffer high infection rates.  Hmmm, that is a curious bit of
data, what could be going on there?  My guess: this paper does not account
for differences in medical treatment regimens (use of HCQ and Budesonide
and other treatments).  I like this paper, but I think they need to re-run
their models and take into account the factor of medical treatment.  This
one has promise for actually producing good science to support mask wearing
(to be determined yet), and I like that they also take into account border
closings (86% decrease in mortality rate when international travel was
restricted) and testing / tracing (did not significantly reduce mortality
rate).  Obesity and an older population are also major factors in an
increased mortality rate.

So, are masks effective?  I think they are, they certainly can reduce the
infection rate.  How effective, and how much liberty do we give away in the
interest of reducing the risk of living?  I'd much rather that our elected
representatives focus on providing the public with reliable information on
individual actions that will reduce the infection rate, promoting good
hygiene practices, and making possible the medical treatments that are safe
and effective.  The use of bad models and the confusing and contradictory
advice from "experts" has severely damaged the public's faith in
government.  Personally, if I become ill with this disease, I'll ask my
doctor about HCQ and Budesonide as treatment options.  Until then, life is
worth living so let's get on with it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:05 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think the imposition to liberty here is very minimal. It's not like they
> are bringing back the Stamp Act, or requiring vaccination. It's like
> wearing a seatbelt or something. I will be happy not to wear the masks but
> we have some work to do as a society to get there.
>
> I can see how people with little direct exposure to this illness might
> think the risk is minimal. We are seeing these sorts of attitudes change
> with increased disease prevalence in affected areas e.g. Texas.
>
> To Don's point, until the prevalence in your immediate area is below about
> 1.5%, it's probably a good idea to do what you can. I have five people in
> house right now with it. One is a 43yo RN with a 7yo daughter who tested
> positive a few days ago and was toughing it out at home but could not
> breathe well so came in satting 82%. She is doing OK on a few liters of
> oxygen. Three are guys in their 50s and 60s with no predisposing
> conditions. Two of them were intubated for about a month and still cannot
> tell you the name of the building they are in. They will stage extended
> recoveries but unclear if they will regain previous functional levels. One
> of them had several strokes and will be permanently severely disabled. My
> colleague in house this weekend rounded on 9. We have about 80 total in
> hospital, 60 confirmed, 20 suspected.
>
> There are plenty of papers out there for anyone interested in masks. This
> list is a good start:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1m-o_9N9Yq3cq7toP1-nZKtAHTIQ-Nqeqaj866sycl6w/mobilebasic
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:41 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Study: Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, those that would trade liberty for security deserve neither.  If masks
are so effective, why didn't they use them in prisons and jails and keep
all those criminals locked up?  Might not have such a shocking rise in
violent crimes in our major cities if they kept the criminals locked up.

If I were in a high risk group, I'd be very diligent about social
distancing, wearing an N95 mask when indoors in a public, and practicing
great hygiene (hand sanitizer, frequent hand washing, using the
disinfecting wipes).  Perhaps I'd even wear disposable gloves in stores and
businesses.  That would allow all those without my concerns to go on with
life, and build up the herd immunity.

We've flattened the curve, the virus is going to spread no matter what we
do.  In my opinion, the faster we let it run its course and get to herd
immunity, the better off we will all be and life can return to normal.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Must have tool

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

On my 124 cars that don't have a drain valve on the radiator, I use the
block drain, stick a rubber hose on that and direct into a bucket or
whatever.  That gets a lot of it out, and then I use a big wide low pan
under the lower radiator hose, and put a low bucket in the pan to try to
catch the most volume and then the pan catches the rest.  Hard to do all
this without spilling any, but I can keep it down to a very manageable
mess, and keep the coolant clean enough to re-use if desired.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does it help with draining the old coolant?
>
> My biggest issue with routine coolant changes is just the huge mess. No
> good way to drain all the old coolant. I've tried the Prestone coolant
> flush kits and those make a mess too plus I don't really like cutting
> the heater hoses to install their cheap plastic garden hose fitting.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > If you are doing a refill on a cooling system, this is a must have item.
> Makes the job S much easier and faster. No need to worry about air
> bubbles. I have used it twice now and it’s great.
> >
> >
> https://www.harborfreight.com/Cooling-System-Test-and-Refill-Kit-64985.html
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Must have tool

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Most Mercedes radiators have a drain valve.  Well, my 124 cars that still
have original radiators have that.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does it help with draining the old coolant?
>
> My biggest issue with routine coolant changes is just the huge mess. No
> good way to drain all the old coolant. I've tried the Prestone coolant
> flush kits and those make a mess too plus I don't really like cutting
> the heater hoses to install their cheap plastic garden hose fitting.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > If you are doing a refill on a cooling system, this is a must have item.
> Makes the job S much easier and faster. No need to worry about air
> bubbles. I have used it twice now and it’s great.
> >
> >
> https://www.harborfreight.com/Cooling-System-Test-and-Refill-Kit-64985.html
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Study: Respiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

Read the whole study at least through the Discussion, don't stop at the
abstract.

"Some health authorities recommend that masks be worn by ill individuals to
prevent onward transmission (source control)4
,8
. Surgical face
masks were originally introduced to protect patients from wound infection
and contamination from surgeons (the wearer) during surgical procedures,
and were later adopted to protect healthcare workers against acquiring
infection from their patients. However, most of the existing evidence on
the filtering efficacy of face masks and respirators comes from in vitro
experiments with nonbiological particles9
,10
, which may not
be generalizable to infectious respiratory virus droplets. There is little
information on the efficacy of face masks in filtering respiratory viruses
and reducing viral release from an individual with respiratory infections8
, and most
research has focused on influenza11
,12
.

Here we aimed to explore the importance of respiratory droplet and aerosol
routes of transmission with a particular focus on coronaviruses, influenza
viruses and rhinoviruses, by quantifying the amount of respiratory virus in
exhaled breath of participants with medically attended ARIs and determining
the potential efficacy of surgical face masks to prevent respiratory virus
transmission."

Key parts from the Discussion:

" Among the samples collected without a face mask, we found that the
majority of participants with influenza virus and coronavirus infection did
not shed detectable virus in respiratory droplets or aerosols, whereas for
rhinovirus we detected virus in aerosols in 19 of 34 (56%) participants
(compared to 4 of 10 (40%) for coronavirus and 8 of 23 (35%) for
influenza). For those who did shed virus in respiratory droplets and
aerosols, viral load in both tended to be low (Fig. 1
). Given the high
collection efficiency of the G-II (ref. 19
) and given
that each exhaled breath collection was conducted for 30 min, this might
imply that prolonged close contact would be required for transmission to
occur, even if transmission was primarily via aerosols, as has been
described for rhinovirus colds."

" The major limitation of our study was the large proportion of
participants with undetectable viral shedding in exhaled breath for each of
the viruses studied. We could have increased the sampling duration beyond
30 min to increase the viral shedding being captured, at the cost of
acceptability in some participants. An alternative approach would be to
invite participants to perform forced coughs during exhaled breath
collection12 .
However, it was the aim of our present study to focus on recovering
respiratory virus in exhaled breath in a real-life situation and we
expected that some individuals during an acute respiratory illness would
not cough much or at all."

Here in South Carolina, we have about 2000 new cases reported.  Let's say
for each person with a positive case, there's another 10 that are infected,
so perhaps there are 20,000 people out there in South Carolina with Wuhan
Red Death (WRD).  State population is about 5,000,000 which means that
about 0.4% of the population MIGHT be walking around with WRD.  So if I go
to Costco, and there are about 200 people in the store, maybe one of them
is infected.

I'm about 50, in good health with none of the health conditions that
"experts" think might make me more likely to get seriously ill or die from
this, so I'm not too worried.  If there is one person that is sick, and for
30 minutes of them breathing next to me there's about a 6 in 10 chance that
they aren't expelling any virii in their breath, and they don't cough on
me, then neither they nor I really need a mask, right?  I don't stay next
to anyone for 30 minutes in any store that I go to, generally I'm in and
out in 30 minutes or less.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think you're onto it with the testing comment Curt.

The testing is really NOT inspiring any confidence in the numbers.  Two old
ladies in Houston were waiting outside in the heat and humidity to get
tested after they had filled out the paperwork, got too hot and decided to
leave before getting swabbed.  Couple days later they both get notified
that they are positive.  Too many reports of testing centers in FL which
have 80% or more of the test kits reported as positive, and then when
challenged they say "oh my bad, that was 0.8x%, not 8x%".  Couple of
skeptical nurses took sterile swabs directly from package and inserted into
the lab kit (no swab, going from sterile to sterile with some air exposure
which maybe might have the virus floating around I guess) and send them in
and "surprise, you're positive for the WRD!"
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Or does crappy (rushed) testing result in false negatives where people
> think they're no longer infected when they actually are and the
> "reinfection" is just the original infection part 2.
> The biggest problem in the whole epidemic is people opening their mouths
> first and thinking about the answer later...
> -Curt
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] GRI is so small....

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think that there is an airport in California that took the option of
using their own security vice TSA, it's a big one but I don't remember
which one.  I've only flown in/out once since TSA came on the scene.

If I were a smaller airport, I wonder how viable that would be.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 2:56 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I can't remember which airport it was but a few years back the TSA
> person, the gate agent, and the baggage handler were all the same
> person.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > TSA is not even open yet.
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
guilty
-
Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
> "I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You can
> > > be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by force.
> > > Completely Constitutional.
> >
> > But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
> > they have an infectious disease or not.
> >
> > Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
> > healthy are being forced to stay home.
> >
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Update on the 606 with possible blown head gasket

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well that's good news!  Once you get it sorted, come drop it at my place
and pick up one of my cars to drag back for parts.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After finally getting all the air out of the system after swapping out the
> radiator it still seemed to get hot to me. Today I swapped out the fan
> clutch with a new acp (?) one from FCP. Box says Borg Warner. Anyway it
> seems to be engaging fine. Let car run for about 20 minutes then let it set
> idling for another 20-30 minutes. Photo attached is about where the temp
> reached and stayed. It’s 93 out currently. Seems normal to me but now my
> paranoid self from reading all the idiotic Fakebook posts about temp has me
> thinking maybe temp is too high. AC was running the whole time also. At
> this point after screwing around with it the system is just about straight
> water. Tomorrow I’m probably going to drain it again then use my new HF
> vacuum filler to fill it back up with the proper ratio. I may drive it
> around for a little bit then if all is good probably take it off the road
> for some front end work (after I get my lift going)
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Replacing combination switch E320

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That is the device that maintains the electrical connections (for the
airbag, horn, and perhaps other controls mounted on the steering wheel)
between the steering wheel and the steering column.  I don't think it has a
big clockspring in it, I know it does not for my 124 cars.  On my cars, it
has carbon brushes that make the connection with copper rings on the
underside of the steering wheel.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:33 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:33:34 + (UTC) Robert Koziak via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > One work of caution is when you reach the removal of the "clockspring"
> > step be sure to cautiously keep it in the same exact position.  I
> > thought I did but when reinstalling it made a clicking noise and the
> > airbag SRS light came on.  I needed to purchase a new clockspring to
> > complete the job. Good luck! Bob
>
> What is a "clockspring"?
>
>
> Craig
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] So basically it is airborne and anything less than a N95 is a waste of time?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Channeling Marshall Booth: "Change your filters or your LUNGS will MELT!"

Prediction: If Biden wins, the Wuhan Red Death will drop out of the news
cycle permanently.  If Trump wins, Americans will continue to die at an
alarming rate, and We MUST DO SOMETHING!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 12:27 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> One item of concern that has, to date, not been addressed to my
> satisfaction.
>
> The air handling systems in buildings.. What is being done to clean the
> systems ?  We wear masks in stores... yet hundreds of people come and go in
> a single day, so the opportunity for someone with infection to be spreading
> virus exists... yet, I've seen NOTHING that addresses the cleaning of air
> handlers in stores..
>
> Example, Legionnaires Disease... source vector. the air handlers...
>
> Covid 19 has so many unknowns and unaddressed issues... I see multiple bad
> management issues.. from local to national...
>
> Anyone seen anything address the inside air quality vector?
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:14 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I only wear N95 into stores. I wear cloth when out and about outside
> where
> > masks have been mandated by local authorities or else.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> >
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/07/1004841/a-group-of-239-scientists-say-theres-growing-evidence-covid-19-is-airborne/
> > >
> > >
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] West Texas Doctor Says Asthma Drug Budesonide Is 'Silver Bullet' for COVID-19

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Correct Mitch, sharing information about drugs that may work is a good
thing.  If we can lockdown and destroy the economy to "save lives", we
certainly can and should share information about potential treatments that
may save lives.  If we can mandate mask wearing by force of law, we can
also take the time to study and explore viable treatment options.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Wed, July 8, 2020 9:24 am, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > "Magic beans" We could rephrase the headline to "People who were going to
> > recover anyway seem to recover well when treated." Without any kind of
> > scientific study there's no way to know the drug is doing anything.
>
> Basically true, but until those results are in, medical professionals have
> to go with what works in their experience. I recall a speech by a Texas
> MD, back when the news media and certain Dem governors were telling us
> that taking malaria meds was dangerous and not helpful, apparently because
> the president mentioned it favorably. Her claim was that she'd prescribe
> it to patients and within 24-48 hours their symptoms would show
> significant improvement, and had not been seeing such improvement before
> she started prescribing it.
>
> If inhaled steroids reduce lung inflammation, it would not be surprising
> to find that they reduce lung inflammation caused by COVID. After all,
> COVID doesn't damage your lungs, your immune response to COVID damages
> your lungs.
>
> Generally speaking, untreated patients don't magically recover when first
> diagnosed, if you're really sick you'll stay that way for 2-4 weeks and
> still not be in good shape at the end of a month (my sister was virtually
> bedridden for 3 weeks, and very weak at week 5, I think she's still not
> back to work more than a month after her 'recovery'). I should try to find
> out what if any medication she took for it and when she received it. I
> remember the general instructions were 'if you can't breathe, call an
> ambulance, otherwise, you're under quarantine until symptoms subside'.
> When finally deemed safe to take a bus to the hospital, she was negative
> on the COVID test, positive on the antibody test.
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] So basically it is airborne and anything less than a N95 is a waste of time?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Every country?  Come on Karl, I have to throw the flag on that one.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:33 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Every country that has managed to reduce covid to bearable levels has a
> mandatory masking policy in place, including many whose outbreaks were
> small in large part because they put the policy in place as soon as their
> first cases occurred. Cloth is not as good as spun polyethylene or
> propylene or whatever plastic is used in surgical masks. But cloth is still
> effective.
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 7:13 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] So basically it is airborne and anything less than a N95 is a waste of time?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Read it again Curt, it says the particles are so small (1-2 microns) that
they remain airborne, which means they flow with the air right through and
around the surgical mask.

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2017/07/06/elastomerics/

" Surgical masks are *not* respirators. They are disposable coverings
designed to be loose-fitting over the user’s nose and mouth. These
loose-fitting masks leave gaps between the mask and the wearer’s face
through which harmful particles may pass. Since the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) does not address the fit function of masks and
surgical masks are not NIOSH approved, the mask may not be used in
situations covered by Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
within areas requiring the use of respiratory protection. Therefore
surgical masks should never be used for protection against infectious
aerosolized particles."

My advice: Wash your hands / use sanitizer often, stay away from those
coughing and sneezing, talk with your doc in advance about treatment
options beforehand (hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, etc) so you have an
idea of what to do if you feel ill or know you are exposed.  If some other
ritual makes you feel safe (I'll be carrying my firearm of choice and
riding in a very safe car, a Mercedes-Benz) then go for it.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:05 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Actually it means exactly the opposite, that everyone could help slow
> transmission by wearing masks. Remember the mask catches that which you
> expel.
> Still though, I take all these things with more than a few grains of salt.
> We've seen so many magic realizations that have then turned out to be wrong
> its not really worth paying attention, you just drive yourself crazy.
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 9:54:38 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/07/1004841/a-group-of-239-scientists-say-theres-growing-evidence-covid-19-is-airborne/
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world scandal

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So I'll ask one more time.  Where's the study?  Where's the science?  Sure,
we all know that wearing a mask when working in a hospital setting is
valid, but that is part of an ensemble of protective equipment in a
controlled setting.  Sure, when one is sick, wearing a mask to catch the
droplets when you cough or sneeze is valid.  No argument there.

It seems like the only thing that is driving the mask thing is fear.  Plain
raw fear.  That and the desire to impose control on your fellow man.

For the record, I do wear a mask when I go into a store.  I notice a fair
percentage of people here wear the mask below their nose, so only the mouth
is covered,

Hand sanitizer and hand washing are far more effective, in my opinion.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 8:02 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> EXACTLY 
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Yeahbut the problem is that my wearing a mask protects YOU. Your not
> > wearing a mask increases MY risk...
> > So I'm polite enough to protect you from the germs I might be carrying
> but
> > you can't be bothered to do the same. Thats brotherhood for you.
> > -Curt
> >
> > --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Peer reviewed study on Hydroxychloroquine (HCL)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

Bottom Line Up Front: study found that HCL (my acronym) can reduce death
from COVID-19 by 50%.  Think about that: we could be at around 65k deaths
here in the US, instead of around 130k.

Note that this study was in a hospital setting, and the authors are also
performing a study on prophylactic use of HCL.  I'll go out on a limb and
bet you all $1 that the next study will also indicate that HCL is
beneficial at 50% or more.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This has BaT flip written all over it.  I'll bet you can get 10 grand as
is, just clean it up and get some nice photos.  Forget making any further
repairs except maybe the AC, this car has "survivor" and "patina" written
all over it, let the new owner have all the fun with the front end work.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea, I figured.  On a flipper I might go with cheap parts. But on the
> other hand, even if its a flipper I dont like using cheap parts.  Damn
> this is absolutely the smoothest and most quiet OM616 I have seen.  It
> literally runs like a sewing machine.  I may just have to keep it.
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] What is wrong with Wally World?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Beyond the obvious, their online ordering is weird.  A can of R134a
SuperTech refrigerant is about $5 online, BUT YOU CAN ONLY ORDER A MAXIMUM
OF ONE (1)!!!

I guess I will put in three orders and go pick up three cans.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] refrigerant leak detector/sniffer

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Regarding the valve core replacement tool, I bought one to use on my 124
Mercedes, only to find that the low pressure valve does not have a
replaceable core.  Wasted time and money.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:07 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone have one of these? Is it worth it for occasional DIY use or is
> there something else that's a better value?
>
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/electronic-freon-and-halogen-leak-detector-92514.html
>
> Also any recommendation on a valve core replacement tool? Looking for
> the tool that replaces the valve core without losing refrigerant charge.
>
> Allan
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Floppy, can’t keep it up

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have noticed that the Japanese car's visors tend to last much longer than
Mercedes.  I would be tempted to retro-fit a pair, but that may look a
little ghetto without putting a some work into it.  Take one example from
your car, walk around LKQ to see what might work, you might get lucky.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 2:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The visors in this 211 wont stay all the way up. It’s like whatever the
> friction thing inside is loose or only works on part of the rotation on the
> metal arm . Is it possible to get visors apart or are they sorta sealed for
> life?  Need new ones?
>
> --Fat
> Sent from iPhone
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Free towing depending on location!!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Too bad that has the v6 diesel and not the straight 6 CDI engine.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> R350 dizzel, looks like way overpriced if the engine is toast, otherwise
> looks quite nice
>
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz R-Class R 350 Sport Wagon 4D
> $3,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 days ago in Pooler, GA
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 189,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Diesel
> 15.0 MPG city · 20.0 MPG highway · 17.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Navigation
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 4WD
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Lovely stylish family vacation car !! Brand new Battery and SOME recent
> engine work done , cost of 8,000$+ !! Comes with Free touch screen radio
> !! You have to get your install done !! BUY AS IT IS !! Free towing
> depending on location!!
>
> --
> --FT
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Who's most at risk for the WRD?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/The-ultimate-covid-19-mystery-Why-does-it-spare-15345984.php
The ultimate covid-19 mystery: Why does it spare some and kill others?
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death mortality rate study

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Some asked a question earlier in this thread about how the Wuhan Red Death
compares to past pandemics.  Earlier I had looked at numbers from past
epidemics, and I was struck by the pattern that these tend to occur about
every ten years, especially in recent history.

Asian Flu, 1957-58.  116,000 US deaths, US population was ~172 million

Hong Kong Flu, 1968, 100,000 US deaths, population was ~201 million

Avian Flu, 1997, isolated to Hong Kong with 18 deaths

SARS, 2003, world wide only ~8000 were infected and ~780 died.

H1N1 swine flu, 2009-10, 12,469 US deaths, population was ~309 million

MERS, Outbreak in 2012, total to date of 2494 cases, 858 deaths, mostly in
Saudi Arabia and Korea.

WRD outbreak, 2020, 119,000 US deaths so far, population is ~331 million

So far, the Asian Flu of '57-'58 and the Hong Kong Flu of '68 killed a
higher percentage of our population than the current WRD virus.  We did not
lock down our economy and suffer a recession back then, something to
remember the next time one of these comes around.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT New Treatment for Wuhan Red Death

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug

A cheap and widely available drug can help save the lives of patients
seriously ill with coronavirus.

The low-dose steroid treatment dexamethasone is a major breakthrough in the
fight against the deadly virus, UK experts say.

The drug is part of the world's biggest trial testing existing treatments
 to see if they also work for coronavirus.

It cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those
on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Arctic Crack

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No pix of the "new" engine?  Crate engine installed by MB, or a rebuild by
billy-bob?

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:46 AM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://anchorage.craigslist.org/cto/d/anchorage-mercedes/7140555142.html
>
> Green is nice, but not that price
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death mortality rate study

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Was FEMA activated for any of the past pandemics?  What was different about
this pandemic that rated FEMA to be activated?

The main issue that I see is that we relied on a terribly flawed model at
the start, and were operating without a clear understanding of the virus,
and then the media began stoking the fear, and in every way that the
President tried to lead, he was viciously attacked and resisted, called a
racist and mocked.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I can’t speak for Karl, but from what I’ve seen the places that were the
> least affected were those that were aggressive about testing and contact
> tracing as soon as things started. We may not be able to cure this
> currently, but if we can accurately track the infections and those exposed
> to it, we could control the spread far better than we currently have.
>
> FEMA has mobilization protocols for events such as this and they even
> practice for it, but they weren’t mobilized nor involved for the most part,
> other than being directed to intercept or impound supplies for states and
> private entities for Federal use. FEMA also has very close coordination
> with state, local and tribal government entities that allows them to
> mobilize on short notice and with clearly defined framework and protocols
> for a response to the event.
>
> Look up:
>
> NDMS (National Disaster Medical System)
> NRCC (National Response Coordination Center)
> DMAT (Disaster Medical Assistance Teams)
>
> I work with and have been trained as a part of my job to interact and
> respond with FEMA for such events, so I’m very familiar with what could be
> done and how it would be managed. No one ever gave the order or provided
> direction. This is the direct responsibility of the office of the President
> to DHS, under which FEMA acts. Period.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 14, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Karl, Your comments stimulate many questions in my mind.
> >   As individuals. What should we be doing that we are not doing
> (behavior, supplements, etc)?
> >   Specifically what National leadership do you mean (CDC, POTUS,
> legislators)?
> >   Does National leadership have jurisdiction or do state/local
> authorities have jurisdiction?
> > ...What has National leadership failed to do?
> >   Is contact tracing really viable (considering the virus was widespread
> before we knew it was here)?
> >   Why were/are we (the US) so slow with tests, treatments, etc.
> >   How does this all end?  Do we all get it eventually?  Does it die out?
> >   What are we proles to make of the flip-flop guidance from the experts
> (masks, isolate indoors, etc.)?
> >   Who can we believe?  So much seems politically driven, even medical
> "experts".
> >   I'm an 70+ year old asthmatic and SWMBO is in her 80s with heart
> issues so we are hermits, mostly.
> > Thanks for any insights,
> > Scott (a skeptic)
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> >>
> >> It isnt really a balance. The shut down was just to buy time, and it
> worked, but
> >> at tremendous cost. The basics of mask wearing, testing and contact
> tracing to
> >> isolate and quarantine positives and their contacts involve relatively
> minimal
> >> cost, and no threat to civil liberties. And this works. Iceland never
> shut down at
> >> all. They just tested lots of people from the first reported case
> onward, and
> >> had a team of 50 people testing and tracing the contacts and telling
> them to
> >> stay home for two weeks. They have close to zero daily new cases. That
> is all
> >> we need to do nationally, but everybody is too busy whining to get on
> board
> >> and there is no real leadership at the national level.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The balance that is the main challenge is how to maintain an economy,
> >>> allow personal rights, and mitigate disease spread. Everyone has the
> >>> answer depending on various orientations but none of them seem to
> >>> strike the balance effectively.  I have just kinda decided to go about
> >>> life, take some precautions, but recognizing sooner or later getting
> >>> infected is a high probability no matter what.  A vaccine is a long
> >>> time away, if it would even be effective
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 6/13/20 11:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>  Our numbers are still rising in this part of the country. With
>  little to
> >>> no
>  testing we will probably never know the full extent of the disease.
> 
>  On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> >  Still pretty hard to really prove that data isn't it? 100,000+
> > deaths
> >>> in
> > the US in 4 months is 3x+ what the flu would get over twice that
> period.
> 

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death mortality rate study

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Our numbers in SC are also rising, both infections and deaths, but they are
still extremely low compared to places like NY.

This country has suffered many pandemics in the past, we seem to get one
about every ten years.  Sometimes we go extreme in isolation / quarantine,
sometimes we just shrug and go on with life.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:59 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Our numbers are still rising in this part of the country. With little to no
> testing we will probably never know the full extent of the disease.
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Still pretty hard to really prove that data isn't it? 100,000+ deaths in
> > the US in 4 months is 3x+ what the flu would get over twice that period.
> > It'll take a long time before we antibody test enough people to really
> > prove those numbers.
> > Based on how the US numbers continue to inch down I'm thinking that
> having
> > a bad "early" COVID season might be a good thing for our later results.
> > Brazil's numbers are terrible and rising and thats after having very low
> > numbers in the initial 4 months.
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:20:37 PM EDT, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest
> >
> > 1. According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the
> > overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1%[
> > https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/] and thus in the range
> > of a strong seasonal influenza[
> > https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/en/publications/covid-19] (flu).
> >
> > 2. Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general
> population
> > of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride
> to
> > work[https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1]. The
> > risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no
> > symptoms were not taken into account.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT: Rules for Flying

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

   - Try to stay in the middle of the air.
   - Do not go near the edges of it.
   - The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground,
   buildings, sea, trees and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to
   fly there.

-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] I think I managed to blow the head gasket on my e300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well the bottom hose is not supposed to get hot, the radiator is supposed
to cool off the coolant, so maybe it will be warmish.  Really hot or stays
cold would be problems.

Used radiator from a car that had the head off, hmmm, maybe a bad radiator
blew the headgasket or cracked the head on that car?  Yeah, be suspicious
of that radiator.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to check the bottom hose and see if it is hot after it gets
> warmed up.  Maybe nothing is flowing thru it although I did get water
> flowing out of the top neck with the hose disconnected when filling in
> the reservoir.
>
> On 6/7/2020 4:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > No, flow is out from the top hose (from the head) into the top of the
> radiator, then out from bottom of radiator into the thermostat and then
> water pump.
> >
> > Jun 7, 2020 4:43:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> No, I did not turn on the heat before I started filling. The thermostat
> was replaced a few months ago. Upper hose gets hot, have not checked lower
> hose. I assume it flowed from the bottom up in the radiator?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Fw: A turning point for Allied victory

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Scott, I really enjoy VDH's columns and podcast, I've ordered a copy
of the book and I'm going to watch some of these videos too.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 2:13 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Course based on a book with the same name by Victor Davis Hanson.  There
> are a series of Hanson interviews on YouTube.  Like all movies/videos the
> book is richer but the vids are great too:
>
> www.youtube.com/results?search_query=victor+davis+hanson+the+second+world+wars+
>
> For the last 75 years, the world enjoyed unprecedented prosperity and
> peace because of World Order created after and because of WWII.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Craig via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 2:30 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Craig 
> > Subject: [MBZ] Fw: A turning point for Allied victory
> >
> > For those who are interested in WWII.
> >
> > The on-line free courses are available at https://online.hillsdale.edu.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 07:34:39 -0400
> > From: "Larry P. Arnn" 
> > Subject: A turning point for Allied victory
> >
> > Dear friend,
> >
> > On this day in 1944, the largest seaborne invasion in history took place
> on the
> > beaches of Normandy as members of the Allied Powers stormed the coastline
> > to fight against Nazi Germany.
> >
> > This invasion was a key turning point for Allied victory in the Second
> World
> > War, and it was a heroic—and costly—effort.
> >
> > One way to honor the brave soldiers who fought in World War II is to
> study the
> > conflict itself—its causes, the strategies used, and its implications on
> the
> > present day.
> >
> > To this end, Hillsdale College has produced an online course about the
> war,
> > titled “The Second World Wars.” Many of your fellow Hillsdale supporters—
> > 116,882—have already enrolled. This course is free, just like all of the
> College’s
> > online courses.
> >
> > We’ve heard from many of our friends that wish to receive the course in
> DVD
> > format. So I wanted to let you know that “The Second World Wars”
> > course
> > (https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> > nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN203 ) is also
> > available as a DVD boxed set for your home library or to give as a gift.
> >
> > The DVD set provides an analysis of Allied and Axis investments and
> strategies
> > in the air, on land, and at sea that led to the victory of the Allies.
> >
> > I’ve included a secure link below where you can get this special edition
> of “The
> > Second World Wars” on DVD. Supplies are limited.
> >
> > https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> > nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN213
> > (https://info.hillsdale.edu/e2t/sc2/Mm-
> > nFbkzv4cW8Xc4mb9lv_tKW7LkdhF81ySSyW9h9dxR6z_5vCf1HVPN223 )
> >
> > I hope you find this course as important and as fascinating as I do.
> >
> > The strength and bravery of American soldiers during one of the darkest
> times
> > in human history reminds me of how proud I am to be an American.
> >
> > We owe our thanks to those who served and still serve.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Larry P. Arnn
> >
> > President, Hillsdale College
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > --
> > Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo   354 kmi
> >  '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville   210 kmi
> >  (the Big Red Van, BRV)
> >  '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
> >
> >Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
> >  '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
> >  '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> >  '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> >  '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
> >  '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
> >  '86 190E/2.3
> >  '72 220/8
> >  '61 Willys Utility Wagon
> >  '59 Willys Utility Wagon
> >  '67 Volkswagen Fastback
> >  '64 190Dc  Emma
> >  '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
> >  '69 Lotus Europa
> >  '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
> >  '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery 

Re: [MBZ] Donald Trump is a racist

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Trump is not a racist.
https://youtu.be/ylAh9VjLTiU


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No what?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 3, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > No.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The master and slave cylinders arrived for the 240D. I guess I should
> get
> >> that done. I’m really not looking forward to laying on my back under the
> >> dash to remove and replace the master. Should I pinch off the line from
> the
> >> brake reservoir to try to avoid a big mess inside the car?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Donald Trump is a racist

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The master and slave cylinders arrived for the 240D. I guess I should get
> that done. I’m really not looking forward to laying on my back under the
> dash to remove and replace the master. Should I pinch off the line from the
> brake reservoir to try to avoid a big mess inside the car?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Red Death Flu

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Mine are very useful, as long as I have freedom to move my head up or down
as needed.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 4:00 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Are the progressive lenses truly usable over the entire surface of the
> lens? Anywhere you look, there is a spot in the lens that will bring an
> object into focus, regardless of the distance?
> The no line bifocals I first got only had a narrow band that worked at the
> top and another at the bottom. Otherwise the rest of the lens made
> everything blurry.
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Can't read it, don't have a subscription and won't turn off my tools for
preventing the spyware and obnoxious ads.

Prevention of infection is not the goal, prevention of hospitalization and
death from the infection, THAT is the goal.

Sounds like they moved the goal posts in order to get the outcome they
desired.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:16 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from
> getting the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a study being
> published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine."
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2YjA3NGQ5YmJjMGY0MDNmODlmMmYwIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaGVhbHRoLzIwMjAvMDYvMDMvaHlkcm94eWNobG9yb3F1aW5lLWNsaW5pY2FsLXRyaWFsLXJlc3VsdHMvP3dwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtaHNlLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlIn0.hWnXUghpIAUUHog9UY30B_6mLEMoftX2aNv-84_xfBE_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere_medium=email_source=alert=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national=1
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Dichotomy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I declare Craig the winner.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:16 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> My first use of a computer was in 1967 at Caltech. We used modified IBM
> Selectric typewriters scattered across campus and connected to the
> mainframe in the computation building. We programmed in a simple
> adaptation of Fortran called Citran, which was easy and quick to learn
> and easy to use (now why can't all computer languages be like that!). The
> mainframe really drove those typewriters! It was interesting to watch the
> ball jump all around to do the output typing. Unfortunately, the
> Selectric's mechanicals were not up to the constant pounding and the
> uptime was somewhat low.
>
> That was followed up in 1968 at Hughes Aircraft in Culver City,
> California, by my use of a teletype connected to a mainframe in downtown
> Los Angeles to write BASIC programs. (In my student house at Caltech, I
> used a teletype driven by the contacts of a sensitive relay which was
> powered by the rectified audio of my shortwave receiver to read the news
> headlines broadcast around the world).
>
> My first owned computer was in about 1993, an IBM 80286 I used to
> connect from my house to the mainframe in U.T. Austin's Applied Research
> Laboratory to continue my work from home.
>
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Sealing tin roof

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yeah that stuff is good.  Expensive, but if the repair area is limited,
that stuff will do it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:10 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Eternabond is what RVers use. It's a wide, thick tape. My RV guy uses
> "scrubbing bubbles" to clean before applying.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 2:03 PM
> To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> Subject: [MBZ] Sealing tin roof
>
> What is a good product to use to seal up some small pin holes/cuts in
> the tin roof of my barn?  I am thinking some sort of think tar like roof
> sealant or something.  I also need to seal up some leaks around the
> heater vents in the shop so maybe the same product would work for both?
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Sealing tin roof

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That has a 12 MONTH warranty!  No thanks, you need to get something that
has a ten year warranty, and then you can save up money for a new roof for
a few years.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think I have more of an area than that might cover.  I probably need
> some sort of bucket of something.
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/BLACK-JACK-Rubr-Coat-4-75-Gallon-Fibered-Roof-Sealant/3043257
>
>
> On 5/29/2020 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Flex Seal.
> >
> https://www.harborfreight.com/liquid-rubber-sealant-56872.html?cid=paid_google||All+Products|56872_source=bing_medium=cpc_campaign=_content=All+Products=4660b08cd326181bd274ee5dab9fb7de
> 
> >
> > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > What is a good product to use to seal up some small pin holes/cuts in
> > the tin roof of my barn?  I am thinking some sort of think tar
> > like roof
> > sealant or something.  I also need to seal up some leaks around the
> > heater vents in the shop so maybe the same product would work for
> > both?
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Sealing tin roof

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I tried Flex Seal to fix the rust-through pin holes in my chimney cap.  It
held up for about a year maybe a little more.

There are some commercial products that are longer lasting for such roof
repairs, basically you need something that you put down a coat with a
roller, than while it is still sticky and tacky you lay on a layer of
fabric, and then paint more coats on top.  Search for roof sealer / roof
repair.

All of the above are temporary.  You really need a new roof.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What is a good product to use to seal up some small pin holes/cuts in
> the tin roof of my barn?  I am thinking some sort of think tar like roof
> sealant or something.  I also need to seal up some leaks around the
> heater vents in the shop so maybe the same product would work for both?
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W123 Brake master cylinder fallout

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What you are describing are classic symptoms of air in the system, fixed
with proper bleeding.  I would start with that.

May as well replace that caliper now, no sense at all in delaying repair
(the ability to stop is far more important than the ability to go).

If the brake pedal feel doesn't improve with proper bleeding, I'd have the
run-out on all the rotors checked (a warped rotor will constantly push the
pads further back into the caliper, requiring more brake pedal travel each
time you apply the brakes because you have to first move those pads back
into contact with the rotor).

If the run-out is fine, then it would make sense to replace the booster.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:15 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had my master cylinder replaced and the tech said that some brake fluid
> had migrated into the brake booster.  He says he removed (siphoned) almost
> all of the fluid, but when driving the car with the new master cylinder
> installed the brake pedal travels more than normal and feels "squishy",
> although the brakes DO stop the car, albeit with a lot of effort on my
> part.  He thinks my brake booster may also need replacement.  Is this a
> normal chain of events?  Prior to the failure of the MC  the brakes were
> perfectly fine.
>
> I should add that he also observed that the RF caliper is also on its last
> legs (sticking).  Could that have anything to do with it?
>
> 1983 300TD SW
> 380,000 miles
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT: Studies say HCQ works, for outpatient / early applications

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

Abstract



More than 1.6 million Americans have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and >10
times that number carry antibodies to it. High-risk patients presenting
with progressing symptomatic disease have only hospitalization treatment
with its high mortality. An outpatient treatment that prevents
hospitalization is desperately needed. Two candidate medications have been
widely discussed: remdesivir, and hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin.
Remdesivir has shown mild effectiveness in hospitalized inpatients, but no
trials have been registered in outpatients.



Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both
clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not
expected until September. *Early outpatient illness is very different than
later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ*. Evidence
about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of
hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning
efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease.



*Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated
significant major outpatient treatment efficacy*.
Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more
than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated
proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the
medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is 9/100,000
users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. *These
medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for
physicians to prescribe*.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT NASA Launch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well darn, no launch today.  Weather scrub.  I think next window is
Saturday.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Spacex.com
>
> Direct feed from Spacex.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 27, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Aye!  Hopefully something will be streamed live.  Anyone have a link?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just wanted to ask how many are going to watch the launch?
> >> Space-nut (wing-nut?) wants to know.
> >> Fred.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fred Moir
> >> Lynn MA
> >> Diesel preferred
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT NASA Launch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've got youtube with C-SPAN channel right now, that's looking pretty good.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:37 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
>
> or you can watch CNN
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/27/20 3:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Aye!  Hopefully something will be streamed live.  Anyone have a link?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just wanted to ask how many are going to watch the launch?
> >> Space-nut (wing-nut?) wants to know.
> >> Fred.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fred Moir
> >> Lynn MA
> >> Diesel preferred
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT NASA Launch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Aye!  Hopefully something will be streamed live.  Anyone have a link?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to ask how many are going to watch the launch?
> Space-nut (wing-nut?) wants to know.
> Fred.
>
> --
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Meat

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

$3 per pound, plus you need a freezer.  How much is a cheap freezer?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> With the current prices of meat at the store with ground beef being
> unavailable or over $8 per pound, streaks being much more that that I
> decided to explore options. Ideally I should get some cattle to raise then
> have it butchers. What I did in the mean time is find a local wholesale
> meat supply place that supplies meat to restaurants. I bought 40 lbs of
> ground beef, 10lbs of beef patties, 24lbs of sirloin steaks, 16lbs of
> ribeye steaks, 10lbs of pork carnitas. Total was right around $300. Seems
> like a pretty decent deal to me, much cheaper than going to the store. If
> you are looking for meat you should try to find a similar place near you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT - This Thread is Dead, Jim

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So I was thinking about the admin tools, and how hard it is to stop replies
to a thread that is deemed to be dead by list mom or list dad.

Is there a way to change the subject line to indicate "DEAD"?  That may
provide a more visible flag to people who get into the conversation late,
and don't see the closure because they are reading the emails in chrono
order from oldest to youngest.

Alternatively, flag that subject line in the list serv software such that
all replies to that subject get returned to sender with "Dead Thread" or
somesuch in the reply?

I'm sure there is some way to do this.

Maybe the penalty will be automatic enrollment into OkieTalk and send the
reply there, so the responder can carry on in the appropriate channel.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I read an article earlier today that talked about the roles of who decides
if a death is counted as COVID or not.  The Doctor signs the death
certificate, and that is the official cause of death, and I'm sure Karl is
right in that the vast majority are doing the right thing and making the
best call they can.

The disconnect happens when the county / state report up their numbers to
the CDC, because they are under no obligation to use the cause of death
listed on the certificate.  They follow the CDC guidelines, which don't
even require a positive test for WRD (Wuhan Red Death) and so there is
plenty of opportunity to steer the numbers.  FL is accused of
under-reporting, and NY is accused of over-reporting.

As usual, we've got the best government that money can buy, and as a result
the "official" numbers are not really trusted by anybody, making a
reasonable debate very difficult to have.

That is all, carry on.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Crack in radiator

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

X2.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Replace it..
> It will not heal, it will only get worse and fail when you least expect it
> to... like when the temp is up and you are running AC in slow traffic...
> the crack will expand as pressure goes up, then full failure of the tank.
> My money goes to "replace with new".
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have noticed a small coolant leak coming from the LF area of the
> > radiator and it appeared to be coming from the neck on my 98 E300. The
> > other day I pulled upper radiator support to pull the aux fan to replace
> > the belt and saw a very small hairline crack in the tank right on top.
> > It probably happened way back when I hit that deer.  It seems like I
> > recall some sort of JB weld like material you can use to patch these
> > sorts of things?  Is that a reasonable idea or should I replace the
> > radiator.  Normally I would just replace it but the crack is so small
> > you can't really see it with the naked eye unless you see a slight
> > amount of coolant seeping out.  Thoughts?
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Humans are curious, especially curious about human death.  Where someone
got infected and later that person died, the "where" "how" and "what"
killed them are what we want to know.  Many people die in the hospital,
knowing that doesn't scratch the itch.  Knowing where they were and how
they got infected, that is more important to me and I suspect most humans.

Another interesting fact about this disease: many of the infections occur
in clusters in households where people are locked down / social
distancing.  I suspect stigma, fear of treatment and belief that there is
no treatment / no cure are keeping people at home too long, and then when
they go to the hospital or emergency room, if they are not "sick enough"
they get sent right back home with orders to self quarantine.  These
actions pretty much ensure that everyone or most of the people in that
house get infected.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> No argument with any of your points.
> Here's my point:  If nursing home patients get transported to a hospital
> before they expire does it reduce the number of nursing home deaths?
> If sick prison inmates are transported to a hospital, where they die in a
> day or two.  Do those count as prison deaths or hospital deaths?
> Maybe I'm too cynical but I can think of political motivations for reducing
> nursing home and prison numbers and for increasing the general population
> numbers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers
>
> What should it be recorded as? The person died in the hospital.
>
> There will always be data irregularities but the idea the hospitals are
> somehow systematically having doctors enter fraudulent codes on death
> certificates is pure BS. 1) it's a felony, with no benefit to a doctor to
> do
> that, 2) we test everyone and we know whether they have covid 19 or not, so
> there is no uncertainty 3) the people who die of covid pneumonia in
> hospital
> have imaging ample imaging and other studies to back up their diagnoses.
>
> The idea that hospitals can somehow control what I write in a death
> certificate is laughable. I have zero incentive to lie about anything. The
> hospital doesnt get paid any more or any less whether someone has pneumonia
> from covid or another virus. All this stuff is politically motivated trolls
> casting aspersions on electronic media. It would not surprise me if these
> ideas originate outside the US in many cases.
>
> Covid deaths at the beginning were vastly undercounted - not over counted.
> A glance at the excess monthly mortality by year tells the story. People
> were dying but we had no way to diagnose them because even hospitals could
> not do tests.
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yet another distortion of the numbers:  If a nursing home patient in
> > NY gets COVID but is moved to a hospital before he/she dies it is not
> > recorded as a nursing home death.
> >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Win10 PC audio - no output via display port?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Fixed it.  Weird fix.  Go to ms config, Boot tab, Advanced Options, set max
memory to 3072, apply, close, restart computer.

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Audio/Lost-audio-after-Windows-10-update/m-p/6459332#M90296


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:31 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> A couple weeks ago, I could connect my Win10 laptop to our TV and watch
> streaming internet video.  Laptop has a display port, which connects to TV
> via an adapter to convert to HDMI. This set up worked on two different TVs.
>
> This morning, the video is displaying on the TV but the audio stays on the
> laptop.
>
> I've tried both TVs, same issue.
>
> I suspect a recent update on the laptop has changed something.  There's
> only been a couple of updates recently, one of which was to Win10, so I
> think I'm going to try to roll that back and see if the problem resolves.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Win10 PC audio - no output via display port?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

A couple weeks ago, I could connect my Win10 laptop to our TV and watch
streaming internet video.  Laptop has a display port, which connects to TV
via an adapter to convert to HDMI. This set up worked on two different TVs.

This morning, the video is displaying on the TV but the audio stays on the
laptop.

I've tried both TVs, same issue.

I suspect a recent update on the laptop has changed something.  There's
only been a couple of updates recently, one of which was to Win10, so I
think I'm going to try to roll that back and see if the problem resolves.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Study says: face masks are bad for you, don't protect you.

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I watched a movie a few months ago, where a group escaped from a Siberian
gulag and walked across China to India.  At one point they were nearly
going mad from the mosquitoes, and while hiding from locals, they observed
that none of the locals were bothered at all.  Finally one of the group
runs up to a local and asks how they keep away the bugs, and the guy
explains that a local weed gives off a scent that the bugs can't stand, so
they weave the week into a ring that they wear as a necklace.

If this weed grows in Siberia / China, it will probably grow in Alaska.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 10:25 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Rancid bear fat/grease. So the indigenous folk around Yellowknife claimed,
> or something to that effect. I will say that commercial bug sprays appeared
> to do little to discourage the beasts. Quite nasty.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 23, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Beekeeper hat?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 7:35 PM Clay via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I am told the early version are big and dumb, so simple to splatter.
> The
> >> later batches are educated, small and vicious.  I will find out soon
> >> enough.  Might need to set up a CO2 pump to keep the bugs off me, or
> wear a
> >> backdoor screen muumuu
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 22, 2020, at 2:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alaska state bird as I’ve been told. Thankfully, I was never there when
> >> they were out. I tried to limit my visits to the fall or very early
> spring.
> >> I was in Yellowknife, CN in June once, though. Dang things were so thick
> >> you couldn’t breathe without a mask or bandanna.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT Wuhan Red Death: Can't trust the numbers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://disrn.com/news/washington-officials-admit-to-counting-gunshot-victims-as-covid-19-deaths

This is just one of several news stories.  In NY state, there are on-camera
explanations by coroners / morticians that they count every death as Wuhan
Red Death.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Study says: face masks are bad for you, don't protect you.

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Beekeeper hat?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 7:35 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I am told the early version are big and dumb, so simple to splatter.  The
> later batches are educated, small and vicious.  I will find out soon
> enough.  Might need to set up a CO2 pump to keep the bugs off me, or wear a
> backdoor screen muumuu
>
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 2020, at 2:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alaska state bird as I’ve been told. Thankfully, I was never there when
> they were out. I tried to limit my visits to the fall or very early spring.
> I was in Yellowknife, CN in June once, though. Dang things were so thick
> you couldn’t breathe without a mask or bandanna.
> >
> > -D
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 92 Mercedes Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

How do you detect that the odometer is rolled back?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 4:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Overpriced, odo has been rolled back.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 22, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Lookie here.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> 92 Mercedes Benz 300D 2.5 Turbo
> >>
> >> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7128367294.html
> >>
> >> Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive
> email-a-friend messages in the future.
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Well, this is REALLY exciting

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Delaying tactic noted on your social acceptance score.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sun is out, I think the downed trees are cleared, off to do the repair!
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On May 20, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK less talk, more work.  We need a full report once you get that Benz
> back
> > on it's way to the first million miles.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Well, this is REALLY exciting

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

OK less talk, more work.  We need a full report once you get that Benz back
on it's way to the first million miles.
-
Max
Charleston SC
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Study says: face masks are bad for you, don't protect you.

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Peter, here's a study that should bring you great comfort.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092485792030145X?via%3Dihub

There is a very effective drug therapy that appears to be 100% effective at
preventing Wuhan Red Death from causing COVID-19.  Rather than lock-down
and enforced mask wearing, vulnerable populations and those who feel they
are at threat from the disease can use this drug therapy.

No more need for masks, social isolation, lock-down, contact tracing,
forced quarantines, and other oppressive measures.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is no science in that "study" -- it's an opinion piece.
>
> There is absolutely NO evidence that wearing a face mask "concentrates"
> the virus and causes infection of the brain, the virus is already
> circulating in the bloodstream.
>
> If any of this was true surgeons would not wear masks in surgery.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Peter,

How'd that isolation thing working in NYC?  Over 80 deaths per 1000 cases.
Compare that with Florida, about 43 per 1000, and far less draconian
lock-down / isolation.  Why are all those New Yorkers fleeing and heading
to their vacation homes (including in FL)?

We've got community spreading going on, the "test and trace" horse has left
the barn and is probably a few counties away.  Testing, contact tracing and
isolating is a fantasy at this point.  When the Chinese Communist Party
isolated Wuhan from all internal travel, but permitted international
flights out of Wuhan to all corners of the globe, those commies made sure
community spread was going on all over the globe.  You can thank them.

Where is the science, where are the studies, that tell us that lock-down
and isolation works?  Meanwhile, real life data is telling us that it does
not work.

Your civil liberties and rights may not mean much to you, but to many in
this country they are essential to having a job and feeding a family.  If
you can afford to stay locked up in your house, no one is going to stop
you.  If people not wearing masks is too risky for you, then stay away from
them.  There are plenty of medical professionals against the idea that the
general public should be wearing masks in social situations, but that goes
against the narrative of fear perpetuated by the main stream media, so
their voice is never heard.  Wearing a mask can impede the flow of oxygen
into the blood stream, reducing 02 levels and making the wearer MORE
susceptible to infection of lungs.  Add increased touching of the face and
mask due to discomfort, and the risk of infection is going up.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually, isolation is the only way to stop the spread.  This is an
> unusual virus in that it's possible to actually stop the spread, difficulty
> is that it can have a long incubation period with virus shedding going on
> for some days before symptoms get bad enough to send someone in for testing.
>
> This isn't the first time, either -- SARS and MERS are similar viruses,
> just much less transmissible.  Another long forgotten incident involved fur
> animals in Manchuria in the early part of the 1900s, when no vaccine was
> possible.  That outbreak was traced back to harvesitng sick animals for
> fur, and was stopped by guess what, cloth masks and social distancing.
>
> The key to stopping the spread is testing and contact tracing -- if people
> can be tested easily, it's possible to break the chain of transmission, and
> when no more people are getting infected, eventually the virus will no long
> reproduce.
>
> My local county has always had a pretty strong public health department,
> and has been on top of tracing and testing since the start -- luckily, we
> are more or less remote here, and full state wide social restrictions were
> in place before the first cases showed up.  The result is that we have just
> over 200 cases for 200,000 people and two deaths.  Case number per day is
> down to five or six, and I believe nearly all of them were people in
> observation for exposure.
>
> Couple people refused to self isolate and were promptly served with stay
> at home orders by a local judge -- we still have quarantine laws on the
> books from when there were no antibiotics or vaccines for common illnesses
> like scarlet fever a measles.
>
> while it may seem very harsh and draconian, the lockdown in China worked.
> You have to understand the filtering of news there, but I suspect the
> reported case numbers are reasonably accurate -- if the Parry lies too
> much, they will be overthrown, it's how things work in China.  South Korea
> and Tiawan, both of whom had serious issues with SARS in the 90s, have very
> low cases as well.
>
> One point more -- nightclubs opened in Seol, and at least 126 cases have
> come from a single club over a couple nights.  This is what I'm worried
> about with the lunatics that squeal about how their "rights" are being
> infringed by public health measures.  Only takes one jerk ignoring the
> health rules to infect hundreds of people in close quarters.  Ditto for the
> boob that insisted he run his barber shop in spite of the shutdown -- he's
> now positive and who knows how many of his clients are too as a result.
>
> I definitely error on the side of caution, it's why I've driven a Benz for
> decades.  Hardly an imposition to wear a mask compared to getting really,
> really sick or killing my elderly mother.  We are not all isolated
> sovereign states with no responsibilities, we are a community and need to
> remember everyone is entitled to what we are.  Or as my Grandmother used to
> say "You have your rights, true -- until they run into mine, and you are
> standing on my toes"
>
> Far too many people who blow on about their "right" to do whatever they
> want are notably absent when it's time to take 

Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I gave it to my 13 yo daughter to research, she came up with a bunch of
hogwash about this is unavoidable and caused the by heat / cool cycles as
you take it out of the freezer and put it back in.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life.
>
> On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening.  How do I
> keep the ice cream from getting so hard?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, this is the age of instant gratification.  Wait ten minutes for ice
cream?  OK boomer.  ;)
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:16 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Let it sit out for 10 -15 minutes before you intend to eat it?
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life.
> >
> > On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening.  How do I
> > keep the ice cream from getting so hard?
> > >
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > >
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > >
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts
longer.  I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what temp
we've got, than maybe bump that up.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> -40 is insanely cold. Home freezer should probably be 10-15 degrees. A
> deep-freeze for longer-term storage should be below zero. I've never
> seen one at -40. The chest freezer in my basement is at -5 right now.
>
> If ice cream is too hard, set freezer temp higher (warmer, less cold,
> however you want to think of it).
>
> Allan
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > What's the proper temp?  Last time I was at the grocery, I took a look
> and
> > their ice cream was at -40 deg F.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Turn your freezer down?
> >>
> >> Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright
> freezer
> >> in the garage turns it into a rock.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening.  How do I
> >> keep the ice cream from getting so hard?
> >> >
> >> > Max Dillon
> >> > Charleston SC
> >> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com