his three quotation and comments
(today he discussed only the final part of my message on techniques I
employ, making thought experiments or observing my own semioses "on the
fly"), so I have no idea why he coined the expression "Partial) signs," nor
what he thinks of my res
t;what you have in mind") as a matter of some mere sense of mine
of a "temporal immediacy," when in fact it is not at all my view at all,
but part of my process, is for me at least, not presently very helpful as
we explore this interesting topic.
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pain (another qualisign), the immediate withdrawing
of her hand (involving now 2ns), and the cry (perhaps involving 3ns as
she's a French girl and has heard mom cry out "Aie!!!" when she herself was
in pain or saw that her daughter was in pain). How complex even the
simplest semiotic even
likely to remain unconvinced by Bellucci "that,
according to Peirce, only propositions have immediate objects"
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Then there are 3 divisions that relate to the Object. One according to *the
form under which the Sign presents its Object. This is of course **the
object **as the sign represents it**, i.e. the Immediate Object *(emphasis
added by GR).
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n conflict. Indeed,
one would hope that they would mutually fecundate, even fructify each
other. There is also the real possibility and practice of inter- and
transdisciplinarity.
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thinking--which, again, is most
certainly Peirce's (many passages to that effect)--about the omnipresence
of all three categories in every phenomenon.
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s so basic to Peirce's thinking
throughout cenoscopic philosophy (but, perhaps, especially in phenomenology
and logic as semiotics) that I wonder what prompted your question.
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miotic will most certainly employ the
discoveries of phenomenology, but that's an entirely different matter.
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e possible exception of the third branch of the normative sciences,
namely, logic as semiotic).
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tic (or, as I like to think
of it, trichotomic semeiotic, as involving the categories at almost every
stage of his semeiotic analysis)?
But, this is just a quick guess; and there may be more to these passages
than I've suggested here involving, as you've suggested, phenomenological
2ns.
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sp. in its
including a pragmatistic theory of inquiry) is the final branch for which
the other two prepare.
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ry
long way since Peirce's day and a new outline of idioscopy would no doubt
look very different from Peirce's. But one would expect to find
biosemiotics among the special sciences and most certainly not as a
sub-division of the *normative science* of logic as semeiotic.
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robably not vice versa).
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Stephen C. Rose <stever...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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interpretant.” This idea of "consisting" leads astray, in my opinion.
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ot;a special relationship where each input has a single output." I don't see
how this gels with the snippet of Peirce's above (quite a characteristic
one, I believe).
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List,
I'm forwarding Kalevi Kull's announcement of Gatherings in Biosemiotics
2018 at Berkeley.
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Subject: [biosemiotics:9256] GB 18 – Berkeley
To:
thinking. Has there been any work (articles, dissertations, etc.) comparing
the thinking of the two? As I recall, John, some of your papers touch on
this. But I'm wondering if there has been any more extensive work in this
area?
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hing like a neural
net would for a brain.
. . .
Here is a video on fungi where Stamets reports some of his work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAw_Zzge49c
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object which remains
the same (e.g. the bird sound), while each immediate object so determined
will be specific to some individual (person or animal).
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object which it represents
itself to have, its Immediate Object, which has no other being than that of
being represented to be, a mere Representative Being. . . (emphasis added) (
*Commens*)
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Jon, list,
Congratulations, Jon. I am delighted to see your excellent essay published.
I highly recommend it to list members.
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which Peirce outlines as well as in
consideration of such fields as biosemiotics.
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how
far 'physical' and 'psychical' sciences have advanced since Peirce's time.
But of course he predicted that that advance would necessarily have to be.
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ly to
reflect on our experience in order to, come to better understandings of the
nature of physical pain, to, for example, discover means to control it
medically for not only humans, but for primates, other mammals, etc.
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d).
Gf: ‘Experience’ itself is only a word, like other words: how then do you
reach the point where you can judge for yourself whether experience is your
only teacher or not?
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Taborsky, Auke van Breeman, and yourself.
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Peirce gives to this is, perhaps, even more famous.
So to all a Happy New Year, one full of many good and fruitful things,
including lively philosophical conversation in this forum!
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view.
In any event, and towards the new year, to paraphrase Robert Browning, our
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r, is something Tom Peters, business guru, once wrote:
"Celebrate what you want to see more of."
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a healthy and productive 2018. Here's one of my favorite
New Year's quotes.
And now we welcome the new year. Full of things that have never been.
Rainer Maria Rilke
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did and to which you
properly reacted. Please accept my apology. I will make it public if you
wish.
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I see that Jon S has addressed this well, so I'll stop here.
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 1:24 PM, E
. of the evangelical fundamentalist stripe, have lost it (or
at least suppress it).
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 12:
not say that a sign is a (triadic) relation, but that a *sign
relation* is triadic — and its *correlates* should not be regarded as
* parts*.
I tend to strongly agree with his conclusion.
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o sets of
nieces and their husbands are arriving as house guests in the next few
hours and there's much to do before they arrive.
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nother--a new and different sign.
Anyhow, that is my understanding of the interpretant in semiosis.
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great deal in Peirce which is
compatible with an attitude and philosophy of meliorism, that, for example,
wherever it is up to us to put our shoulder to some task towards improving
our human lot that we ought do that.
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ily agree with all of it) presently
remains my primary focus.
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mary Libertin
ays seem to me to be closer to the mark. For
me--and I think for Peirce--tricategorial thinking represents a kind of
heuristic. I certainly am not married to any trichotomies which I have
posited.
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al inquirer, that
we ought not insist on what is right or wrong (seek consensus) for others
in this matter.
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anyone here is making such
an effort toward consensus building on Peirce-L, and examples are always
quite helpful.
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as you
and perhaps some others here apparently do, Mike), I have been personally
stimulated to do some thinking I might otherwise not have done had he not
made it, and I personally thank him for that.
And I thank you also for your criticism, Mike, as it too has stimulated my
thinking in quite
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Theory, is also necessary for a full
development of this science.)
In truth, I have considered most discussions of Peircean phenomenology far
too narrow to be very helpful in bringing about an authentic Peircean
science of Phenomenology.
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On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
semeiotic (and even a *logica
utens*), can analyze phenomena in consideration of the other categories as
well allowing for the two other possible branches just mentioned.
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various contexts. More,
hopefully, soon.
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Jerry,
Please explain what you mean by this comment: "From the limits of JAS to CP
5.189"? Your apparent fixation on CP 5.189 has turned from being a mere
irritant to approaching an insult to list culture.
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t entirely
clear as to the reasons for this preference).
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:07 PM, <g...@gnusyst
ce, be accused of "sloppy
pedagogical rhetoric." So I'd be very interested in why John singled out
this comment, and why he and others think Peirce would have written this as
late as 1911 (unless it is. indeed, simply " sloppy pedagogical rhetoric."
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you do
that, nor can Gary F be expected to respond to your alleged claims of his
misinterpretation.
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with this as we
approach Lowell 3 (I'm not reading ahead as I previously noted), the phrase
"*elements* of the phaneron" (emphasis added) immediately comes to mind for
how Peirce can refer to the three categories in consideration of
phenomenology.
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cycle is in effect, so that even after hundreds of years Newtonian
physics, for example, must yield (at least in part) to Einsteinian physics,
and both (at least in part) to quantum theory. However, we should never
forget that Newtonian physics is *not* *aufgehoben*.
I look forward to exploring th
As Jon just put it, "Yes,
it’s wheels upon wheels but some steps are logically more primitive in the
recursion."
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n separately or as triads, but for the 6
possible tricategorial paths (see the "Mathematics of Logic," CP 1.471)
which they may take, that these too should be seen as but "hints" and
"suggestions."
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Finally, I think John Sowa was quite correct in treating the discussion of
'existence' and 'reality' from the standpoint of logic since that is what
those threads all concern. As he pointed out, Peirce was a logician. But he
was also a metaphysician of some considerable ability, so I'm glad that Jo
ght evolve our humane consciousness, the
final frontier of evolution as Peirce saw it. But this has little--if
any--hope of happening if we cannot conceive powerful abductions,
hypotheses, *possibilities*. . . This, I would maintain, *is* the work of
individuals.
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h includes pragmatism as a method) is immediately
followed in Peirce's Classification of the Sciences by metaphysics, the
science concerned with Reality, and methodeutic's findings are meant to
facilitate inquiry into this final philosophical science, "the third and
completing department of cenosc
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the important distinction which Peirce repeatedly makes between
existence and reality, so I don't buy it.
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d real possibles, and that their reality is
*not* dependent on whether the conditions bringing them into
*existence *"actually
do get fulfilled."
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ifferent matter and has its own, to my mind, inestimable value. So now, to
prove that point to myself--as if it needed proving-- I'll go listen to a
recording of a Mozart piano concerto for the pure aesthetic enjoyment of it.
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s" (CP 5.503).
Well, whether that quotation proves useful or not, I think that it's
probably unlikely that this issue will be resolved in this thread, and that
it may be indeed be a good time for Gary F to commence posting material
from Lowell 2.
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all* of science (with certain dyadic exceptions), namely by his
three universal categories of 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns. One might then
additionally ask: Where else in Peirce's science does reflection on or-,
ob-, and trans- help clarify his meaning when the three categories are in
play together?
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needed in the matter, perhaps in
the direction Jeff suggested (although I'm not at all certain of that).
I'll be eager to read what others think.
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well.
Still, "more of that" conciseness is surely a desideratum for those of us
who post to PEIRCE-L.
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nature.
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John,
Thanks for making what might otherwise appear confusing and complex, clear
and simple.
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have a right to a
bright and safe future.
Now is the time for boldness.
Now is the time to leap.
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a movie ‘star.’ Contextual constraints enable us to
select among the various niches in meaning space which a given text or
symbol might occupy. *We might say that the ‘quest for meaning’ is actually
a quest for context* *(emphasis added).*
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of this sort as long as there is nothing
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> Gary,
ost everywhere, nonetheless it is
"lifeless" even given the somewhat metaphorical notion of "the life of the
symbol" (which, again, requires--as the Peirce quotation I gave a while
back and which Gary F hasn't yet addressed-- *a life form as a vehicle*.
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Gary R
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Computers and robots can already perform certain functions very much better
than humans. But autonomy? That's another matter. Gary F finds machine
autonomy (in the sense in which he described it just above) "plausible"
while I find it highly implausible, Philip K. Dick not wi
em on Earth." say, carbon, on some other planet in the
cosmos, that I can*not* imagine life forming from an AI on Earth so that
*that* remains for me science fiction and not science.
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Gary R
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ly in time.
In my opinion, AI is best seen as a human tool which like many tools can be
used for good or evil. But we're getting pretty far from anything
Peirce-related, so I'll leave it at that.
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Gary R
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through, and what is the nature of it (emphasis added to show that
this "greater life-history" of a symbol *requires* "a vehicle of life."
I would most certainly *not* pooh-pooh Peirce's comment above. GR
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g. Granted, intelligence in
evident even in the growth of crystals. But I would not--and I do not think
that Peirce ever claimed--that crystals were living, let along "life forms."
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Gary R
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e form" even
potentially. Perhaps that's merely a limitation of my imagination.
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Gary R
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s to test pre-Big Bang hypotheses (so,
again, the term 'prescientific' seems apt), or for the reality of God. But
if quantum action at a distance can be supported experimentally, other
'spooky' phenomena (like telepathy) may prove testable in time as well.
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Gary R
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Gary R
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yond the pale.
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Gary
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On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:55 AM, John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za> wrote:
> I a
s a dogma of science" (but, I must quickly add,
certainly not you, John) still many yet hold certain dogmatic views, and
that these can enter into even whole 'schools' in certain fields of
scientific endeavor.
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Gary R
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Ben, list,
I agree that #3 is not a dogma of science.
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