[FairfieldLife] 'Hear Goes the Sun!'
ar eclipse shrouds Asia in darkness after dawn By INDRAJIT KUMAR SINGH (AP) – 28 minutes ago TAREGNA, India — The longest solar eclipse of the 21st century pitched a swath of Asia into near-darkness after dawn, as millions watched the once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon Wednesday. A woman was killed in a stampede at the Ganges river in India, where devout Hindus had gathered for the eclipse. Millions of others, gripped by fear, shuttered themselves indoors. India abounds in superstitions and fables based on Hindu mythology, one of which says an eclipse is caused when a dragon-demon swallows the sun, while another myth is that sun rays during an eclipse can harm unborn children. Thick cloud cover over India and China obscured the sun when the eclipse began at dawn. But the clouds parted in several Indian cities minutes before the total eclipse took place at 6:24 a.m. (0054 GMT; 8:54 p.m. EDT) before moving to Nepal, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Bhutan and China. The eclipse — caused when the moon moves directly between the sun and the earth, covering it completely to cast a shadow on earth — lasted almost 4 minutes in India. In some parts of Asia it lasted as long as 6 minutes and 39 seconds. In Beijing, a thick blanket of grayish smog blotted out the sky and virtually obscured all high-rises in the downtown area of the Chinese capital. In coastal Shanghai, eclipse watchers were disappointed by a light drizzle in the morning. Dozens of people had gathered at one hotel rooftop with telescopes and special glasses. But as the sky darkened fully for about five minutes, watchers became excited again. Holding a big green umbrella and wearing special glasses, Song Chun Yun was prepared to celebrate the occasion in a new white dress. Although the rain came, I don't want to screw up the mood. I want to enjoy the special day, she said before dancing and singing in the rain with her two sisters. I don't want to wait until the next 300 years to see this again. In Bangladesh too, people came out in droves. It's a rare moment, I never thought I would see this in my life, said Abdullah Sayeed, a college student who traveled to Panchagarh town from the capital Dhaka to view it. He said cars in the town needed to use headlights as night darkness has fallen suddenly. People hugged each other and some blew whistles when the eclipse began, he said. One of the best views, shown live on several television channels, appeared to be in the Indian town of Varanasi, on the banks of the Ganges river, sacred to devout Hindus. Thousands of Hindus took a dip in keeping with the ancient belief that bathing in the river at Varanasi, especially on special occasions, cleanses one's sins. The eclipse was seen there for 3 minutes and 48 seconds. But the gathering was marred by tragedy when a 65-year-old woman was killed and six people injured in a stampede at one of the river's banks where about 2,500 people had gathered, said police spokesman Surendra Srivastava. He said it is not clear how the stampede started. The eclipse — visible only in Asia — is the longest such eclipse since July 11, 1991, when a total eclipse lasting 6 minutes, 53 seconds was visible from Hawaii to South America. There will not be a longer eclipse than Wednesday's until 2132. A 10-member team of scientists from the premier Indian Institute of Astrophysics in Bangalore and the Indian air force filmed the eclipse from an aircraft. Scientists had said the Indian village of Taregna would have the clearest view, where thousands of scientists, nature enthusiasts and students gathered a day in advance. But thick clouds and overnight rains provided no spectacle, just a cloudy darkness. It was still a unique experience with morning turning into night for more than three minutes, said Amitabh Pande, a scientist with India's Science Popularization Association of Communicators and Educators, in Taregna. Still, the rain was welcomed by many in this agricultural area which has seen scant rainfall this monsoon season. It would have been nice to see the solar eclipse but the rain is far more important for us, said Ram Naresh Yadav, a farmer. Millions across India shunned the sight and stayed indoors. Even in regions where the eclipse was not visible, pregnant women were advised to stay behind curtains over a belief that the sun's invisible rays would harm the fetus and the baby would be born with disfigurations, birthmarks or a congenital defect. My mother and aunts have called and told me stay in a darkened room with the curtains closed, lie in bed and chant prayers, said Krati Jain, 24, who is expecting her first child, said in New Delhi. In the northern Indian state of Punjab, authorities ordered schools to begin an hour late to prevent children from venturing out and gazing at the sun. Others saw a business opportunity: one travel agency in India scheduled a charter flight to watch the eclipse by air, with seats facing the
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:53 PM, scienceofabundance 1. First Friday Drag Nights at MIU (and we're not talking cars here) [1975] 2. Vedic marriage ceremonies for same sex couples (this was one of the first initiatives I remember.] [1957] 3. Reduced rates on teacher training for gay and lesbian applicants. Bisexual applicants got a reduced rate but not as much as gay or lesbian applicants. [1974] 4. Sidha dresses. [1978] 5. RAG program in San Francisco; Refer A Gay and get reduced fee on a residence course. [1974] 6. 50% increase in ATR for San Francisco centers run by gay couples. [1970] 7. HRVST [Homophobia Reduction Vedic Sound Technique.} [1980] I happened to be in San Francisco when I got roped by Katherine Lyons into taking the sidhis. Some of the CPs and their dominatrixes and/or fudgepacker couples could have made good use of these programs. How come you didn't get these programs out to Baghdad by the Bay -- Herb Caen? The SF Center was run by a very straightlaced straight couple and I never heard of the gays getting anything special except lots of space all by themselves on the foam and their own set of cabins at Cobb Mountain. I know this is sacrilegious, but I can't help it: Mantra for Gays: Shri Homo Homo Namah Om Mantra for Lesbians: Shri Femme Femme Namah Om
[FairfieldLife] About bij Mantra And Other Mantras,
Dear Friend, Jai Guru Dev This is vedic Acharya Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik from Allahabad India, I have an advise for all the people who are in TM Group and they would like to learn some mantras and who they want to listen Mantras and Veda chanting. So dear friends when you are going to listen canting make sure your body and clots should be pure.Because when you will be pure the mantra chanting will create different type of vibration around you. And when you are going to learn any vedic Mantra and going to perform it on your puja place front of GOD. Make sure your pronunciation is correct. Because if your pronunciation is not correct and doing prayer with wrong the it will create negative vibration for you. So please make a Guru when you going to learn something and he will teach well. All the very best for you all Jayatu Guru Devaha Pandit Bhawani
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Maharishi's translation of Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7, Verse 20
Please if someone have manuscript of that chapter can it compare? Thanks
[FairfieldLife] Re: About bij Mantra And Other Mantras,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@... wrote: Dear Friend, Jai Guru Dev This is vedic Acharya Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik from Allahabad India, I have an advise for all the people who are in TM Group and they would like to learn some mantras and who they want to listen Mantras and Veda chanting. . . . So please make a Guru when you going to learn something and he will teach well. Very much in the Maharishi tradition, as many of the women whose statements are in the Sexy Sadie Papers would tell us: If you want to learn something, be prepared to make your Guru. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM, scienceofabundance Well, all I can say is that many of these programs were known only to an inner circle, and obviously you only picked up on some of the mere appearance of homophobia in the TMO. If you aren't aware, many women (at least the one's I've known, in a Biblical sense) hate gays and spew their venom in the presence of the guy they're dating. I've wondered where the hate comes from. Competition? Does a straight woman actually believe that if she weren't around her date would be hunting down gay guys for sex and companionship? Assuming that what you say is actually true, and you're not just having another psychotic episode, I have to assume that the women you encountered were using their gaydar and picking up on signals from you and then seeing whether you'd overreact to such language. As someone who has been (somewhat correctly) described here as a pussy hound, and thus who has spent far too much time around women, I have never heard a single woman -- in the TMO or outside it -- rag on gay men. Ever. Then again, I could be completely wrong about this w.r.t. the latter-day TMO because of the dates of my TM experience. I bailed on the TMO back in 1978 or so, when it became obvious that it was turning into something I no longer wished to be part of. Part *of* that something else was an increase in nosiness and sexual prudery and artificiality. The tales told last night of Cobb Mountain certainly don't strike a resonance with me, but that's possibly because I was last there in 1976 or so. At that time, on a large ATR course, it was really a fun place in many respects, including sexually, but almost entirely heterosexually. I would estimate that pretty much everyone on the course (none of us married in those days) who felt like getting laid did so, as often as we wanted. I know I sure did. Perhaps the attitudes you describe in TMO women above are the result of all the men who actually liked sex and weren't about to be intimidated into not having it LEAVING the TMO and being replaced with male role models like the pasty-faced, pencil-necked-geeks who later joined Purushaback Mountain and became Rajas in sexless marriages. :-) I know that it was definitely a topic of conversation in the L.A. Center during the mid-70s among the women. Even after I left the TMO, for a few years I was still dating women who were On The Program TMers and TM teachers. One of the reasons was that they were attrac- tive and nice people, of course. But another reason was that they were so GRATEFUL to find a guy whom they could meditate with and then get it on with. They felt that they could no longer do that within the confines of the TMO. So for the women I was going out with, it was either Date non-meditators for the sex and hope that we can convert them to meditating or Date Off The Program ex-TM teachers for the sex and hope that someday they'll see the error of their ways and come running back to the Highest Path. The hope clause of neither approach never seemed to work out for them, but at least they were able to get their rocks off from time to time. The ones who tried to stay within the confines of the TMO never did. Gay sex, straight sex...that's not the issue. The issue as I see it is that the TMO, being a reflection of one man (Maharishi) and his not-terribly-realistic- and-horribly-conflicted-notions about sex, was afraid of sex, period. At least sex out in the open. The TMO model when I left the organization was already starting to shift towards Don't ask, don't tell, with people still *having* sex, but being terrified of doing so openly. Call me unevolved, but I much preferred the earlier days, in which Maharishi's conflicted notions about sex hadn't yet become the standard.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: I know this is sacrilegious, but I can't help it: Mantra for Gays: Shri Homo Homo Namah Om Mantra for Lesbians: Shri Femme Femme Namah Om Mantra for Hillary lovers who can't let go: Shri Butch Butch Namah Swoon :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] About bij Mantra And Other Mantras,
And that Guru wouldn't happen to be you, would it? ;-) --- On Wed, 7/22/09, bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: bhawani_shank2000 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] About bij Mantra And Other Mantras, To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:56 AM Dear Friend, Jai Guru Dev This is vedic Acharya Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik from Allahabad India, I have an advise for all the people who are in TM Group and they would like to learn some mantras and who they want to listen Mantras and Veda chanting. So dear friends when you are going to listen canting make sure your body and clots should be pure.Because when you will be pure the mantra chanting will create different type of vibration around you. And when you are going to learn any vedic Mantra and going to perform it on your puja place front of GOD. Make sure your pronunciation is correct. Because if your pronunciation is not correct and doing prayer with wrong the it will create negative vibration for you. So please make a Guru when you going to learn something and he will teach well. All the very best for you all Jayatu Guru Devaha Pandit Bhawani To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] 'Oakland Approves Tax on Marijuana'
Landslide vote! Sets new precedent, for USA... Marijuana produced by and for the people... And pay their due tax, for society as a whole... The American way of freedom, and fair taxation. This could begin to undermine... Anti-marijuana advocates of jails, prisons, Nurse Rachette types... And Ollie North types...cash off the books... CIA/Mexican cartels, wars, weapons and all the stuff created by Prohibition... Like in the 1920's-30's, with alcohol... Now that the American attitudes toward marijuana, Is becoming more in tune with reality, And away from the dogmatic propaganda...so evident in all our culture. The decriminalization and taxation of marijuana... Is a step in the right direction...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The hate of so called Buddhists towards Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 no_re...@... wrote: The science seems genuine and urgent. Extreme measures evidently should be in order now for all community. I wish the TMmovement well and hope for the best. The time is now come to meditate collectively. The science is revealing and evident. The urgency is to get new TM teachers who can work full time and earn a living. That would require a major cultural adjustment for the movement and there's not much sign of that happening, or even an awareness that it needs to happen. The cultural adjustment required to make things work is that the national organizations and especially international should stop being parasites and leave teachers alone to get on with it. If teachers can't afford to teach, then few will opt to become teachers, and if few opt to become teachers then the movement will die. Groups, towers of invincibility, regal courts are all things which get in the way of teachers being able to make a living. It's ruthlessly simple logic. Everything that stands in the way of letting teachers to earn a living through teaching has to be thrown overboard (especially Bevan, he's the major deadweight at the moment). The dead weight. yeah. Evidently communally too, These people are dangerous and should be dealt with directly. The problem of collective consciousness seems is not just with those non-meditators out there. 35 years in charge of long decline and a ruination. Would proly all be better if some of that dead weight were brought tried for crimes against humanity in a real court.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The hate of so called Buddhists towards Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: ---all good points, but the case hasn't been effectively advanced for the benefits of Gnosis, Self-Knowledge; whether it be through TM, Eckart Tolle, or some other non-dualist source. Does such Knowledge provide a head of the line pass at long check-out lines? Does it cure diseases, help people get jobs? Well, actually i do know someone doing an academic thesis on just that kind of spiritual thing. Forthcoming. The person noticed that there were these experiences too along with spiritual practices. Thus is gathering and measuring. JGD, -D ps, There is a lot of sympathy and compassion in the nature of the practice. Work your way up to an hour of quiet meditation at least. Sit with it. Things start to happen after about an hour. You have to practice it, as in do it. 'Sitting quietly doing something'. Called spiritual discipline in so many schools. I'm sorry you fell off the wagon somewhere back and missed out. Though can always come back to meditation, at any time. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, evidently the Hagelin, the TMmovement presently are in the middle of a larger cultural/spiritual revolution and these TM-haters are no better than counter-revolutionaries. You know what history does with counter-revolutionaries? Is something about a right to bare arms. snip These people are dangerous and should be dealt with directly. One of the dangers which people have to guard themselves against is getting so attached to an ideology that they start to believe that unbelievers should be dealt with directly. History records that when such ideas take over a group of people, e.g. communism, nazism, various forms of religious zealotry then the end is disaster. Not only that but the accumulated experience of the 20th century would make new entrants to TM become incredibly wary of talk along the lines of These people are dangerous and should be dealt with directly. when referring to dissidents. How many new TMers are going to get the hots for JH if he starts giving speeches about dealing directly with unbelievers. It turns on the old faithful and turns off new entrants. The bare fact of the matter is that on its own TM is good and people enjoy it and tell their friends. On its own it would spread very well. There isn't really very much can be done by an opposition to prevent it spreading. Except one thing.. They can work the believers into a frenzy so that they start to see opposition, spies and saboteurs everywhere and react with extreme paranoia and therefore make the organization repugnant to alert people. On its own the business of teaching TM would flourish, but it has a mostly parasitic organization living off of the basic business which sucks the life out of it and drives intelligent people away. During WWII the allies considered assassinating Hitler, but decided against it because he was such a terrible commander that it suited their purposes to leave him in charge. If he were removed then generals who knew what they were doing take over and make things much harder for the allies. I think if people believe that the CIA, or other agents are against the movement then they should consider that nothing the CIA or the TM-Free blog or anyone else against TM could be as bad as Emanuel Schiffgens in Berlin, or maintaining silly prices, or dressing people up as fantasy kings. No one needs to do anything against TM while these people are in charge, just leave them be and they'll fuck it up themselves without external assistance. Thanks Guyfawkes, these points are very well said well taken. Good observations. Yeah, but; the science is pretty clear though if only half good. For everyone's benefit, `twould be really good to figure out how to reduce the number of non-meditators effectively. The non-meditators evidently are the problem, scientifically speaking. Teach more people to meditate, bring back meditators who have fallen away or whatever to reduce the number of non-meditators. The science seems genuine and urgent. Extreme measures evidently should be in order now for all community. I wish the TMmovement well and hope for the best. The time is now come to meditate collectively. The science is revealing and evident. As is the progressive nature of spiritual experience now more than ever. This knowledge is in the experience and the numbers meditating. I hope you are with us on this. JGD, -D in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: The hate of so called Buddhists towards Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: ---all good points, but the case hasn't been effectively advanced for the benefits of Gnosis, Self-Knowledge; whether it be through TM, Eckart Tolle, or some other non-dualist source. Does such Knowledge provide a head of the line pass at long check-out lines? Does it cure diseases, help people get jobs? (snip) Meditation and Spiritual Study, can't be compared to traditional education that prepares you for a job in society... How could something that originated with Guru Dev, who, as a personality, was about as far as you can get, from being a productive member of society... If he were born in this country, he would either be put on Ritalin, or committed to a mental institution, so he would 'get with the program'... Jesus explained the difference between serving spirit and serving Mammon... The TM Movement is just a mirror reflection of the culture, as a whole... You could see the beginnings of the slip/sliding away of the movement, as you could see the beginnings of the slip/sliding away, of American Culture, with Reaganism, and the selling out to the corporations and drug dealing weapons suppliers, and fear and war-mongers, and people who want to keep the medical system with it's passion for life and death decisions, in the hands of the Corporations... If some TM teachers what to teach TM, on their own, they can, and can charge any amount they wish... It's not so much the TM culture, it's the whole damn culture... They are not interested...there's too much noise in the system... To many are brainwashed into thinking materially, that they can't even conceive of devoting themselves to anything, that is not material in nature... So, that's the way it is... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] 'Corporate Interests Want Power Over Life and Death'
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. To extend my point on MUMs accreditation, I would like to refer to some information I came across on the web regarding how MIU in its infancy, may have gained their accreditaton in the first place (but there is not a lot of information on that): http://trancenet.net/law/denarot.shtml --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, svenssonjack svenssonjack@ wrote: Can anyone tell me how many students - full-time and part-time - are currently enrolled at MUM ? Is an interesting question. Hard to know. Sometimes some pundits are included along with the other programs and then the gradations of programs that can count. The more recent real challenge has been the attrition rates of the academic student body. Over the 4th of July weekend at picnics and parties I spoke with several MUM staff folks and they were saying the attrition is very high now, running at 60-70 percent of new students. The problem evidently is that the program is way too doctrinal. Way too much doctrinal SCI unified field based stuff and not enough substantial schooling. New students may come for the academic programs but leave because the doctrinal academic teaching of TM are way too constricting. Unlike in the days of MIU, MUM students today don't come because they are meditators necessarily at all. It is a different student profile from years ago. The sustainable living program has attracted a lot of attention and prospective students from outside the TMmovement. They come and find that it is not just that the student body are meditators, but also that there is a whole doctrine of movement dogma that comes over it all. Repulsed at the amount of time spent on doctrine and how rigid the thinking and evaluation is, many leave within the first year. Evidently was some lot of push back from students this last year in a way that normally is suppressed. Particularly in the sustainable living program. small change thus far evidently and no decisions much made. The new communications department because of David Lynch is also attacting new students from the outside to MUM too. Same problem with doctrinarism and the amount of time not spent on the academic program they came for. Financially, evidently the Ethiopian government is becoming shy to letting students come abroad because of the loss of foreign exchange for them. The campus is evidently stressed now for what had been a very lucrative foreign student market. The African student had met the same doctrinal problem too as the sustainable living and David Lynch students. Came initially for the academic possibility and found something way different from just meditating. Way more doctrinal than sold. Generally the US visa program for students has become more difficult too which administratively presses the flow of that student market now. They (the mix of old conservative administration (Bevan's) and some pragmatic progressives who have not been found out yet) are reeling working hard to deal with these things all at once. The old-line is still loath to going back towards a university being just a place of good academic programs where the student body and faculty are also meditators. Post-Maharishi, they are caught now in their own web being way doctrinal. That's what i hear on the street in FF. JGD, -D in FF According to the university itself, the total number is 1230, of which about half are full-time. As a MIU alumn, the number of students had gone down dramatically when I graduated, mid-90s, to about 500 or so. If the official figure is correct, they have experienced an upsurge in recent years. It is important to bear in mind that, in my time there, the part-time programs (which they now call field internship) were the equivalent of slavery and exploitation, considering the conditions students had to submit to. MUMs website now tells me they have improved those conditions, it seems. MUM Admissions also mention there are 70 students on their Beijing campus. I was not aware they have a campus in China ? As for diversity, close to 90% of the undergraduates who enrolled last fall are Americans, so the international flavour has diminished. USA Undergraduates Fall 2008 : Applied 267 Admitted 118 Enrolled 90 Rather low. Then there were 170 new grad students. Finally, the University is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission and is a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. Now, I know they were with North
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, svenssonjack svenssonj...@yahoo.comwrote: Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. I disagree. TM meditation has been considered next to useless since the early 1980s. Maharishi made such a big thing of the sidhis and of sidhas doing program together that the status of TM meditators was diminished. I learned the sidhis because I had enjoyed going to the TM center and to residence courses. Everything for mere meditators got cut down tremendously. There was a residence course at MIU, for example, perhaps twice a year. The purpose of those two residence courses was to convince the meditators to become sidhas. So if you wanted to even watch a tape, you had to become a sidha because increasingly the tapes were for sidhas only. If there was a policy meeting at the center, sidhas would be invited but not mere meditators because, well, meditators didn't operate at the home of all the laws of nature. Over the years I've been on residence courses sponsored by local centers in which there wasn't the means to provide a WPA. Foam, Rig Veda were put out for the sidhas to do program together. On many of these residence courses there was not a single mere meditator.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
On Jul 22, 2009, at 8:46 AM, svenssonjack wrote: Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. One wonders if it is the honor system, in which case it could be yeah, I meditated in my room when actually they were toking a bong and working on level 6 of World of Warcraft. It would be any easy way out of meditating. And of course if this is the case and they include these 'I meditated alone in my room' people as part of the super radiance numbers, it effectively renders the SR numbers unreliable. Time to bring in more vedic mercenaries?
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, svenssonjack svenssonj...@...wrote: Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. I disagree. TM meditation has been considered next to useless since the early 1980s. Maharishi made such a big thing of the sidhis and of sidhas doing program together that the status of TM meditators was diminished. I learned the sidhis because I had enjoyed going to the TM center and to residence courses. Everything for mere meditators got cut down tremendously. There was a residence course at MIU, for example, perhaps twice a year. The purpose of those two residence courses was to convince the meditators to become sidhas. So if you wanted to even watch a tape, you had to become a sidha because increasingly the tapes were for sidhas only. So let me try to get this straight. You were finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars to learn a few phrases in English that you could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras because the above machinations on the part of the TMO had convinced you that the only way to continue doing the things you enjoyed about the TMO -- residence courses and group meditations -- was to pay more money and become a siddha? Can you explain further? It sounds to me on the basis of what you describe above as if you're trying to make a case for sidhas being too stupid to realize that they've been had.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
I am not trying to make any case for anyone. I merely referred to this change in policy as concerns group meditation at MUM and my consequent surprise when hearing it. I am an ex-sidha / meditator. When I went to MIU in the early 90s, you always did your program in groups. I do not know whether the policy has now changed for sidhas as well, but I would not think so. And, finally, to reply to your pointed elaboration : Yes, I was finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars (1700 USD to be precise if my memeory serves me right) to learn a few phrases in English that I could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras. That is tragic in itself, but a different story. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, svenssonjack svenssonjack@wrote: Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. I disagree. TM meditation has been considered next to useless since the early 1980s. Maharishi made such a big thing of the sidhis and of sidhas doing program together that the status of TM meditators was diminished. I learned the sidhis because I had enjoyed going to the TM center and to residence courses. Everything for mere meditators got cut down tremendously. There was a residence course at MIU, for example, perhaps twice a year. The purpose of those two residence courses was to convince the meditators to become sidhas. So if you wanted to even watch a tape, you had to become a sidha because increasingly the tapes were for sidhas only. So let me try to get this straight. You were finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars to learn a few phrases in English that you could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras because the above machinations on the part of the TMO had convinced you that the only way to continue doing the things you enjoyed about the TMO -- residence courses and group meditations -- was to pay more money and become a siddha? Can you explain further? It sounds to me on the basis of what you describe above as if you're trying to make a case for sidhas being too stupid to realize that they've been had.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, svenssonjack svenssonj...@... wrote: I am not trying to make any case for anyone. I was replying to Bill.Hicks.It's.Just.A.Ride. I merely referred to this change in policy as concerns group meditation at MUM and my consequent surprise when hearing it. I don't see why you should express surprise. Do the math. Where is the *income* from having group meditations for people who have already paid for TM or in touting the relatively-low- priced (by TMO standards) TM technique when one can tout the considerably more expensive TM-sidhis? I am an ex-sidha / meditator. When I went to MIU in the early 90s, you always did your program in groups. I do not know whether the policy has now changed for sidhas as well, but I would not think so. And, finally, to reply to your pointed elaboration : Yes, I was finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars (1700 USD to be precise if my memeory serves me right) to learn a few phrases in English that I could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras. That is tragic in itself, but a different story. I really wasn't trying to take a dig at you, in any way. I was merely taking advantage of the bringing up the shift in emphasis from mere TM to the TM sidhis to remind people here of something that the vast majority of them REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE REMINDED OF. For most people I knew in the TMO, there was a profound moment of cognitive dissonance the moment that they *realized* that they'd been snookered into paying several thousand dollars for *literally* the same phrases they could have found in a $3.95 paperback. However, for most of those people, their *next* response was to stuff that moment of cognitive dissonance and try their best to never think of it consciously, ever again. You see it here daily, as people still speak of the TM-sidhis as if they were something magical and special. But *without exception*, everyone knows that they are not. It's just thinking a few buzzphrases that they could have gotten for $3.95. An honest person could *admit*, both to themselves and to the world, that that is what they paid sev- eral thousand dollars for. A less honest person might try to keep that information hidden and even try to make it appear to be mystical or magical in some way, so that new generations of suckers could be bilked as they were. Just sayin'... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, svenssonjack svenssonjack@wrote: Thanks for your news on this topic. I just learned from MUM Admissions that they no longer require students to meditate in a group (they still need to meditate though), which is suprising and strange. It goes against the Super Radiance policy. I disagree. TM meditation has been considered next to useless since the early 1980s. Maharishi made such a big thing of the sidhis and of sidhas doing program together that the status of TM meditators was diminished. I learned the sidhis because I had enjoyed going to the TM center and to residence courses. Everything for mere meditators got cut down tremendously. There was a residence course at MIU, for example, perhaps twice a year. The purpose of those two residence courses was to convince the meditators to become sidhas. So if you wanted to even watch a tape, you had to become a sidha because increasingly the tapes were for sidhas only. So let me try to get this straight. You were finally convinced to pay several thousand dollars to learn a few phrases in English that you could have gotten from a $3.95 paperback translation of the Yoga Sutras because the above machinations on the part of the TMO had convinced you that the only way to continue doing the things you enjoyed about the TMO -- residence courses and group meditations -- was to pay more money and become a siddha? Can you explain further? It sounds to me on the basis of what you describe above as if you're trying to make a case for sidhas being too stupid to realize that they've been had.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip For most people I knew in the TMO, there was a profound moment of cognitive dissonance the moment that they *realized* that they'd been snookered into paying several thousand dollars for *literally* the same phrases they could have found in a $3.95 paperback. I don't know how much of the $3,000 I paid to learn the TM-Sidhis was for the phrases (or if any of it was, for that matter). I took a CIC course and had several hours of detailed instruction both days of six (?) weekends, to start with; then two weeks at MIU, including many more hours of instruction, plus rather sumptuous meals and a comfortable single room in one of the pods. However, for most of those people, their *next* response was to stuff that moment of cognitive dissonance and try their best to never think of it consciously, ever again. You see it here daily, as people still speak of the TM-sidhis as if they were something magical and special. But *without exception*, everyone knows that they are not. It's just thinking a few buzzphrases that they could have gotten for $3.95. Without the detailed instruction, I wouldn't have had the foggiest idea *how* to think the buzzphrases. There is, of course, a lot more to it than you suggest. I wouldn't say the TM-Sidhis are magical per se, but in terms of the personal return on investment, for me they're most definitely special. An honest person could *admit*, both to themselves and to the world, that that is what they paid sev- eral thousand dollars for. A less honest person might try to keep that information hidden and even try to make it appear to be mystical or magical in some way, so that new generations of suckers could be bilked as they were. However an honest person would characterize the TM- Sidhis, they wouldn't claim the fee for the course was only for the phrases. It would be the less-honest person who would make that claim. Just sayin'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
What you need to understand, Zoran, is that we are talking about non-theistic Vedanta. In non-dualistic (Adwaita) Vedanta, the Creator is not the ultimate reality, so TMers aren't very concerned with the names or nicknames of the Devas, Gods or deified heroes of Hindu mythology. Vaj wrote: You seem really confused. TM is not nondual Vedantic contemplation (nididhyanasana). You're the confused one, Vaj, you have not even offered up a definition of 'Vedanta'. According to David Frawley, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation follows a Vedantic view of consciousness and cosmic evolution (Frawley 4). In fact the four levels of nididhyanasana are not even taught in the TM movement Willy. Didn't you know that you were to question what the guru says? Otherwise confusion like this ends up making you look like a babbling idiot... Well, I don't think Pandit David Frawley is a 'babbling idiot' and I dare say he knows more about Adwaita Vedanta. Didn't you realize that TM is a dualistic form of meditation? That's why it produces a witness-consciousness. It's a shame when this kinda thing happens to poor TMers, but I gotta tell you, it is pretty funny! Yeah, it's funny all right, but I wonder how funny you'd sound to David Frawley! An acknowledged Vedantin, Frawley is an expert in ayurveda, Vedic astrology, yoga, and tantra, all of which, he says, have their basis in Vedanta... Read more: 'Indology' by Suma Varughese Life Positive, May 2002 http://tinyurl.com/me2uwl http://tinyurl.com/me2uwl Work cited: 'Vedantic Meditation: Lighting the Flame of Awareness' by David Frawley North Atlantic Books, 2000 Other comments of interst: The TM bija mantras are found in the Vedic literature, revealed to the rishis by Lord Dhanvantari, then Acharya Shree, Brahmanand Saraswati, gave all the bija mantras to Marshy for our enjoyment. Then the sage Vedavyasa attached the Mân.d.ûkya Upanis.ad. to the Atharva Veda and the Brahma Sutras to the Vedanta. Our root guru, Sri Gaudapada then made comments on the Omkara in Mandukhyakarika. And, we have the Soundaryalahari, which was composed by the Adi, for our understanding... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: The TMer Tradition Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: January 6, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/l2bwnx http://tinyurl.com/l2bwnx In fact, the origin of TM is none other than the Adi Shankara himself, as stated by Acharya Sri in his Sutrabhyasa, in his Soundaryalahari, and in his sub-commentary on the Vivarna of Veda Vyasa on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: The TMer Point of View Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: October 22, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/ls4nlo http://tinyurl.com/ls4nlo
[FairfieldLife] Yogi Hig has for may help enlightenment you
Namaste. Yogi Hig explorer and discover of new ronrev olt elel totwen teef ive (best phonetics I can do). May read you more here: Ask for help Hig - he is obliged.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogi Hig has for may help enlightenment you
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogi Hig has for may help enlightenment you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Iggy ignatiusjreilly...@... wrote: Namaste. Yogi Hig explorer and discover of new ronrev olt elel totwen teef ive (best phonetics I can do). May read you more here: Ask for help Hig - he is obliged. Namaste yourself, Iggy-Poo, ya great big ball of Vedic fun. And what fashion of spiritual sham are you perpetrating on this forum of jaded cultists is what I wanna know...
[FairfieldLife] India and global warming
July 22, 2009 India and Global Warming By Bruce Walker americanthinker.com Secretary of State Clinton has gone to India and tried to persuade its leaders to adopt the Leftist dilettante position on carbon emissions. In discussing the merits of global warming, doesn't it make sense to first consider those who would be most seriously hurt by global warming and which nations would be more helped by global warming? Consider, for example, what it would mean to Russian and to Canada if the world average temperature rose by a few degrees. These nations would have a more temperate climate. There would be more arable land, more land on which people could live without using energy to heat their homes and offices, and much milder weather in general. Land values would rise in both nations. Because these vast lands are overwhelmingly inland, a rising ocean level (one of the apocalyptic signs of ultraorthodox global warming clerics) would scarcely affect Russians or Canadians at all. More people might want to move to Canada or to Russia, but much of Russia and some of Canada currently face the problem of rural areas losing population and the people who remain growing older and lonelier. In fact, it is not hard to anticipate a Russian and a Canadian renaissance following global warming. Regardless of whether or not there really is significant climate change, regardless of whether or not any climate change is man-made rather than natural, and regardless of whether any climate change is warming or cooling the plant, there is one certainty: The impact of climate changes of three degrees or so will help some parts of the world and hurt some parts of the world. The idea that gradual, modest climatic change is automatically catastrophic for everyone is just silly. One good way to test the validity of man-made global warming as serious science, rather than a druid cult, is to observe the reaction of those who would suffer the most from man-made global warming. India has the hottest climate of any of the great powers. An increase of even three degrees in the average temperature in India would affect that subcontinent much more than the increase of the temperature of Sweden by three degrees or Minnesota by three degrees, but the effect upon India would be to make some parts of India almost uninhabitable. Because India is a subcontinent, jutting out into the Indian Ocean, and - as the Tsunami of 2004 demonstrated, India would be much harder hit by any man-made global warming which cause the ocean levels to rise or produced erratic weather. No one needs to remind the Indian government of just how many lives and how much property could be washed away when oceanic conditions become very dangerous. So is the Indian government just stupid? Do its universities and ministries not see what Al Gore sees? Although India is a subcontinent of great contrasts, the different peoples who inhabit India have some of the best scientific minds in the world. It is both absurd and offensive to assume that the government of India and its scientific advisors cannot grasp the Inconvenient Truth that the mutton-headed Al Gore or the shrewish lawyer Hillary believe. Does the government of India care less about the welfare of its own people than Gore and Clinton? India is the largest democracy in the world, not a petty backwards dictatorship. Of course the government of India cares at least as much about the welfare of the peoples of India as the rich, distant, Leftist interlopers. There is, in fact, only one logical conclusion about the emphatic rejection by the government of India of the carbon emission caps which Secretary of State Clinton asked India to accept: thoughtful, concerned, scientists and administrators who would be most directly harmed by the dangers of man-made global warming do not accept the premises of its advocates. Perhaps the Indians do not believe the planet is warming or perhaps they do not believe that warming is the result of man-made activities or perhaps they believe that any warming holds slight danger for even a land directly in the cross-hairs of any harm that global warming might hold. Nabobs like Al Gore or Hillary Clinton, rich and powerful, living in America, will be fine whatever happens to our climate. If the worst fears of the global warming priests turns out to be correct, Gore and Clinton will still live comfortable, safe, lives. When those most vulnerable, like the people of India, reject the arguments of global warming, that ought to mean a lot to anyone who cares about the truth. Bruce Walker is the author of two books: Sinisterism: Secular Religion of the Lie, and his recently published book, The Swastika against the Cross: The Nazi War on Christianity. 12 Comments on India and Global Warming
[FairfieldLife] Martinsell Hill, nr Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire. Reported 19th July.
[:D] Simply another job done by dr.peters friends from the Pub [:D] We're eagerly waiting for dr.peters explanation as to how these fellows never were PHOTOGRAPHED or FILMED in the making of these Crop Circles despite the fact that tens of thousands of humans from all over the world gather in the fields of Wiltshire looking for Crop Circles every summer. In Wiltshire there is about 6 hours of darkness during the night now. How many fellows from the Pub would it take to make this formation in 6 hours; 50 - 100 ? Strange that they have not been photograped in their doing dr.peter, no ? Image Russell Stannard Copyright 2009 Thank you to the farmer (D. Butler) who has kindly allowed all visitors to enter this formation in his field. There is an ` HONESTY BOX ` at the top entrance to this field - please contribute as much as you can. It was a pleasure in shaking your hand Sir. Thank you UPDATE:- Please do not park your cars in the field entrance instead park it in the nearby official car park http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=418325y=164487z=120sv=418325,16\ 4487st=4ar=ymapp=map.srfsearchp=ids.srfdn=699ax=418325ay=164487l\ m=0 . Andrew Pyrka (cropcirclewisdom.com http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/martinsellhill2/cropcirclewisdo\ m.com ) http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html Images Lucy Pringle http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/ Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009 http://www.wccsg.com/ http://www.chetsnow.com/signs.html Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009 http://cropcircleconnector.com/forum/index.php
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I bailed on the TMO back in 1978 or so, when it became obvious that it was turning into something I no longer wished to be part of. Rubbish. You were isolated from the TMO because you were considered a security risk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: But, seriously, I presume the ban on abortion has to do with Catholicism, which is in opposition to the Church of England... which goes back to the rebellion against the authority of Rome, and the brought back the Divinity of the Her Majaesty the Queen... Not only Catholicism. Protestantism - the religion of 2/3 of the population in Northern Ireland is of the fundamentalist type and one of the few things that all parties agree on seems to be no abortion. On the Catholic side, even Sinn Fein - the political wing of the IRA - responsible for probably 3,000 or so killings over 30 years - is against abortion. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: I know this is sacrilegious, but I can't help it: Mantra for Gays: Shri Homo Homo Namah Om Mantra for Lesbians: Shri Femme Femme Namah Om Mantra for Hillary lovers who can't let go: Shri Butch Butch Namah Swoon :-) As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
--no, no, Vaj. There's no meditation that immediately produces non-dualistic awareness. If that were so, people would meditate once and be Buddhas overnight. The non-dualism (CC) is in a natural progression, found in any tradition. The same progression exits among students of your Guru Norbu Rinpoche. If he were a great Guru, he'd have more than a few hundred followers. The non-dualism (as WillyTex points out ) is in the viewpoint, the philosophical orientation. The progression (TC,CCGC) exists as a descriptive map of what people experience, not what they are ULTIMATELY to attain as a goal. The fact that Norbu and the Dzogchen practitioners evade describing the progressive attainments doesn't eliminate these experiences from occurring in their students. Thus, MMY's orientation is closer to the real situation; even considering that there really is no effective 5-7 year plan. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: What you need to understand, Zoran, is that we are talking about non-theistic Vedanta. In non-dualistic (Adwaita) Vedanta, the Creator is not the ultimate reality, so TMers aren't very concerned with the names or nicknames of the Devas, Gods or deified heroes of Hindu mythology. Vaj wrote: You seem really confused. TM is not nondual Vedantic contemplation (nididhyanasana). You're the confused one, Vaj, you have not even offered up a definition of 'Vedanta'. According to David Frawley, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation follows a Vedantic view of consciousness and cosmic evolution (Frawley 4). In fact the four levels of nididhyanasana are not even taught in the TM movement Willy. Didn't you know that you were to question what the guru says? Otherwise confusion like this ends up making you look like a babbling idiot... Well, I don't think Pandit David Frawley is a 'babbling idiot' and I dare say he knows more about Adwaita Vedanta. Didn't you realize that TM is a dualistic form of meditation? That's why it produces a witness-consciousness. It's a shame when this kinda thing happens to poor TMers, but I gotta tell you, it is pretty funny! Yeah, it's funny all right, but I wonder how funny you'd sound to David Frawley! An acknowledged Vedantin, Frawley is an expert in ayurveda, Vedic astrology, yoga, and tantra, all of which, he says, have their basis in Vedanta... Read more: 'Indology' by Suma Varughese Life Positive, May 2002 http://tinyurl.com/me2uwl http://tinyurl.com/me2uwl Work cited: 'Vedantic Meditation: Lighting the Flame of Awareness' by David Frawley North Atlantic Books, 2000 Other comments of interst: The TM bija mantras are found in the Vedic literature, revealed to the rishis by Lord Dhanvantari, then Acharya Shree, Brahmanand Saraswati, gave all the bija mantras to Marshy for our enjoyment. Then the sage Vedavyasa attached the Mân.d.ûkya Upanis.ad. to the Atharva Veda and the Brahma Sutras to the Vedanta. Our root guru, Sri Gaudapada then made comments on the Omkara in Mandukhyakarika. And, we have the Soundaryalahari, which was composed by the Adi, for our understanding... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: The TMer Tradition Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: January 6, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/l2bwnx http://tinyurl.com/l2bwnx In fact, the origin of TM is none other than the Adi Shankara himself, as stated by Acharya Sri in his Sutrabhyasa, in his Soundaryalahari, and in his sub-commentary on the Vivarna of Veda Vyasa on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: The TMer Point of View Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: October 22, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/ls4nlo http://tinyurl.com/ls4nlo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:56 AM, WillyTex wrote: What you need to understand, Zoran, is that we are talking about non-theistic Vedanta. In non-dualistic (Adwaita) Vedanta, the Creator is not the ultimate reality, so TMers aren't very concerned with the names or nicknames of the Devas, Gods or deified heroes of Hindu mythology. Vaj wrote: You seem really confused. TM is not nondual Vedantic contemplation (nididhyanasana). You're the confused one, Vaj, you have not even offered up a definition of 'Vedanta'. Strawman. According to David Frawley, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation follows a Vedantic view of consciousness and cosmic evolution (Frawley 4). I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked?
[FairfieldLife] Canadians Want Their Health Care to be Even More Socialized
By an overwhelming margin, Canadians prefer the Canadian health care system to the American one. Overall, 82% said they preferred the Canadian system, fully ten times the number who said the American system is superior (8%). Once again this was the prevailing viewpoint across all demographic groups nationwide, with resistance being highest once again in Quebec. Where one-in-five (19%) said they preferred the American system. Canadians Want Their Health Care to be Even More Socialized Considering both cost and patient care factors, a majority of Canadians (55%) think that the health system should be more public, and only 12% think that more of the health system should be private. One in four (27%) believe that the current system strikes the right balance between publicly funded and pay-per-use care. --According to Harris Decima Senior Vice-President Jeff Walker; Perhaps contrary to impressions in the media, most Canadians believe that on balance our health care system works well, and is far superior to the US model of health treatment. There is little appetite for a further privatization of Canada's health care system. -- Full Harris/Decima Poll here (pdf): http://www.harrisdecima.com/en/downloads/pdf/news_releases/071009E.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Martinsell Hill, nr Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire. Reported 19th July.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: [:D] Simply another job done by dr.peters friends from the Pub [:D] I would say they had definitely just come from the pub as they appear to have partly missed the field and gone onto the grass next to it. Ooops! We're eagerly waiting for dr.peters explanation as to how these fellows never were PHOTOGRAPHED or FILMED in the making of these Crop Circles despite the fact that tens of thousands of humans from all over the world gather in the fields of Wiltshire looking for Crop Circles every summer. What you have to remember is just how many fields there are. I regularly go for evening bike rides round here and don't see a living soul (human or otherwise) for hours. In Wiltshire there is about 6 hours of darkness during the night now. How many fellows from the Pub would it take to make this formation in 6 hours; 50 - 100 ? Strange that they have not been photograped in their doing dr.peter, no ? Image Russell Stannard Copyright 2009 Thank you to the farmer (D. Butler) who has kindly allowed all visitors to enter this formation in his field. There is an ` HONESTY BOX ` at the top entrance to this field - please contribute as much as you can. It was a pleasure in shaking your hand Sir. Thank you UPDATE:- Please do not park your cars in the field entrance instead park it in the nearby official car park http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=418325y=164487z=120sv=418325,16\ 4487st=4ar=ymapp=map.srfsearchp=ids.srfdn=699ax=418325ay=164487l\ m=0 . Andrew Pyrka (cropcirclewisdom.com http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/martinsellhill2/cropcirclewisdo\ m.com ) http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer09c.html Images Lucy Pringle http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/ Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you Image Olivier Morel (WCCSG) Copyright 2009 http://www.wccsg.com/ http://www.chetsnow.com/signs.html Image Jack Turner Copyright 2009 http://cropcircleconnector.com/forum/index.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
On Jul 22, 2009, at 1:26 PM, yifuxero wrote: --no, no, Vaj. There's no meditation that immediately produces non-dualistic awareness. Well that's not necessarily true Yifux. Different people have different capacities. I appreciate that you and Willy may not have a meditation that produces non-dualistic awareness and that's fine. Just because you have a non-conventional experience of the nondual does not mean you will become a Buddha overnight. In Dzogchen the natural state is introduced from the start. The path starts with the fruit. There's no witness and there is no progression, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to call it the Great Perfection. You sound even more confused than Willy! But more to the point, I never said there there was a meditation that immediately produces non-dualistic awareness. What I said was TM was not a non-theistic Vedanta practice as Willy claimed. In fact it's a tantric practice based on tantric theism! You're supposed to read the posts before you respond to them Yifux.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Vaj wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:56 AM, WillyTex wrote: What you need to understand, Zoran, is that we are talking about non-theistic Vedanta. In non-dualistic (Adwaita) Vedanta, the Creator is not the ultimate reality, so TMers aren't very concerned with the names or nicknames of the Devas, Gods or deified heroes of Hindu mythology. Vaj wrote: You seem really confused. TM is not nondual Vedantic contemplation (nididhyanasana). You're the confused one, Vaj, you have not even offered up a definition of 'Vedanta'. Strawman. According to David Frawley, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation follows a Vedantic view of consciousness and cosmic evolution (Frawley 4). I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked? I know David and I don't think he EVER did TM. He was one of these guys who just took off to India at a early age. He studied with actual tantrics and wouldn't have wasted his time on techniques for the general public. People want SO MUCH to read in a bunch of special stuff to what is essentially a butt simple meditation technique.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked? I know David and I don't think he EVER did TM. He was one of these guys who just took off to India at a early age. He studied with actual tantrics and wouldn't have wasted his time on techniques for the general public. People want SO MUCH to read in a bunch of special stuff to what is essentially a butt simple meditation technique. I know David as well and I know he never practiced TM. He was just repeating what he had heard from someone.
[FairfieldLife] IPCC's flawed science
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[FairfieldLife] Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
Siva Prasad Tata, who runs the Astro Jyoti website, straddles the two worlds. There's no need to get too alarmed about the eclipse, they are a natural phenomenon, the astrologer told AFP. But he added: During the period of the eclipse, the opposite attracting forces are very, very powerful. From a spiritual point of view, this is a wonderful time to do any type of worship. It will bring about good results, much more than on an ordinary day. MUMBAI : Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom. But astronomers, scientists and secularists are trying to play down claims of evil portent in connection with Wednesday's natural spectacle, when the moon will come between the Earth and the sun, completely obscuring the sun. In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. Pregnant women are advised to stay indoors to prevent their babies developing birth defects, while prayers, fasting and ritual bathing, particularly in holy rivers, are encouraged. Shivani Sachdev Gour, a gynaecologist at the Fortis Hospital in New Delhi, said a number of expectant mothers scheduled for Caesarean deliveries on July 22 had asked to change the date. This is a belief deeply rooted in Indian society. Couples are willing to do anything to ensure that the baby is not born on that day, Gour said. Astrologers have predicted a rise in communal and regional violence in the days following the eclipse, particularly in India, China and other Southeast Asian nations where it can be seen on Wednesday morning. Mumbai astrologer Raj Kumar Sharma predicted some sort of attack by (Kashmiri separatists) Jaish-e-Mohammad or Al-Qaeda on Indian soil and a devastating natural disaster in Southeast Asia. An Indian political leader could be killed, he said, and tension between the West and Iran is likely to increase, escalating into possible US military action after September 9, when fiery Saturn moves from Leo into Virgo. The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war, he told AFP. It is not just in India that some are uneasy about what will transpire because of the eclipse. In ancient China they were often associated with disasters, the death of an emperor or other dark events, and similar superstitions persist. The probability for unrest or war to take place in years when a solar eclipse happens is 95 percent, announced an article that attracted a lot of hits on the popular Chinese web portal Baidu.com. Sanal Edamaruku, president of the Indian Rationalist Association, dismissed such doomsday predictions. Primarily, what we see with all these soothsayers and astrologers is that they're looking for opportunities to enhance their business with predictions of danger and calamity, he told AFP. They have been very powerful in India but over the last decade they have been in systematic decline. Astronomers and scientists are also working to educate the public about the eclipse. Travel firm Cox and Kings has chartered a Boeing 737-700 aircraft to give people the chance to see the eclipse from 12,500 metres. Experts will be on board to explain it to passengers, some of whom have paid 79,000 rupees for a sun-side seat on the three-hour flight from New Delhi. The eclipse's shadow is expected to pass over the aircraft at 15 times the speed of sound (Mach 15), said Ajay Talwar, president of the SPACE Group of companies that promotes science and astronomy. It's coming in the middle of the monsoon season. On the ground, there's a 40 percent chance of seeing it in India. On the aircraft you have almost a 90 percent chance of seeing the eclipse, he added. Siva Prasad Tata, who runs the Astro Jyoti website, straddles the two worlds. There's no need to get too alarmed about the eclipse, they are a natural phenomenon, the astrologer told AFP. But he added: During the period of the eclipse, the opposite attracting forces are very, very powerful. From a spiritual point of view, this is a wonderful time to do any type of worship. It will bring about good results, much more than on an ordinary day. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/lifestylenews/view/443516/1/.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked? I know David and I don't think he EVER did TM. He was one of these guys who just took off to India at a early age. He studied with actual tantrics and wouldn't have wasted his time on techniques for the general public. People want SO MUCH to read in a bunch of special stuff to what is essentially a butt simple meditation technique. Frawley is in India a lot; he knows very well the super-status Maharishi has in that country within the upper classes. Thousands of Maharishi Veda Vidya Peeths have made this happen. David Frawley also have taken panchakarma-treatment in a jungle-ayurveda-clinic of Kerala, run by an Ayurvedic Doctor very well known to Maharishi as he stayed in Vlodrop for about 2 years. And to myself; I stayed in his jungle-retreat 2 weeks a couple of years ago. Having been so close to Maharishi for years this Vaidya was in Bliss. If you have a chance to meet this Rishi-like Vaidya; please do !
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Oakland Approves Tax on Marijuana'
The people who are paying these taxes will have to realize that marijuana is still illegal in the eyes of the federal government. They may get nabbed by federal agents if they're not careful, or clueless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: Landslide vote! Sets new precedent, for USA... Marijuana produced by and for the people... And pay their due tax, for society as a whole... The American way of freedom, and fair taxation. This could begin to undermine... Anti-marijuana advocates of jails, prisons, Nurse Rachette types... And Ollie North types...cash off the books... CIA/Mexican cartels, wars, weapons and all the stuff created by Prohibition... Like in the 1920's-30's, with alcohol... Now that the American attitudes toward marijuana, Is becoming more in tune with reality, And away from the dogmatic propaganda...so evident in all our culture. The decriminalization and taxation of marijuana... Is a step in the right direction...
[FairfieldLife] Who do you trust to do a better job... - Obama or Republicans?
The Economy -- Health Care -- Budget Deficit 5. Who do you trust to do a better job handling [ITEM] - (Obama) or the (Republicans in Congress)? BothNeither No Obama Reps (vol.) (vol.) opinion a. The economy 56 33 19 2 b. Health care reform54 34 1 10 1 c. The federal budget deficit54 35 *9 2 -Washington Post-ABC News Poll: http://snipurl.com/nqlww SEE CHART: http://snipurl.com/nqm33
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who do you trust to do a better job... - Obama or Republicans?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: The Economy -- Health Care -- Budget Deficit 5. Who do you trust to do a better job handling [ITEM] - (Obama) or the (Republicans in Congress)? BothNeither No Obama Reps (vol.) (vol.) opinion a. The economy 56 33 19 2 b. Health care reform54 34 1 10 1 c. The federal budget deficit54 35 *9 2 -Washington Post-ABC News Poll: http://snipurl.com/nqlww SEE CHART: http://snipurl.com/nqm33 Sorry if the numbers appear jumbled at this FFL page. Please go to the link and scroll down to item # 5 for the proper view: http://snipurl.com/nqlww
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
---Vaj...your endless broken record on a claim that mindfulness is non-dual but TM produces duality is nonsensical without clarification re: exactly what you are talking about. Be more specific, then your ideas (if fruitful) might wallow inside somebody's head a few seconds rather than going in one ear and out the other. I'm listening.but haven't heard much. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 10:56 AM, WillyTex wrote: What you need to understand, Zoran, is that we are talking about non-theistic Vedanta. In non-dualistic (Adwaita) Vedanta, the Creator is not the ultimate reality, so TMers aren't very concerned with the names or nicknames of the Devas, Gods or deified heroes of Hindu mythology. Vaj wrote: You seem really confused. TM is not nondual Vedantic contemplation (nididhyanasana). You're the confused one, Vaj, you have not even offered up a definition of 'Vedanta'. Strawman. According to David Frawley, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation follows a Vedantic view of consciousness and cosmic evolution (Frawley 4). I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked? I know David and I don't think he EVER did TM. He was one of these guys who just took off to India at a early age. He studied with actual tantrics and wouldn't have wasted his time on techniques for the general public. People want SO MUCH to read in a bunch of special stuff to what is essentially a butt simple meditation technique. I know David as well and I know he never practiced TM. He was just repeating what he had heard from someone. I've read a few of Frawley's books. He has acknowledged several acharyas or teachers, including Aurobindo. From what I've read, his ideas are very similar to the TM ideas. In a jyotish symposium several years ago, I personally talked to him about TM and Chopra. He did not mention that he practiced TM. However, he said that he was consulted by Chopra to design a set of meditation mantras for his new meditation clinic. At that time, he also said that he was writing a book about tantra. Several months later the book did come out which is readily available in bookstores these days.
[FairfieldLife] Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret
What do I regret? Well, I regret that in our attempt to establish some standards, we didn't make them stick. We couldn't find a way to pass them on to another generation. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQA7P4ourIQ On the other hand . . . See image: http://www.bartcop.com/fox-cronkite.JPG
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I was talking about practice, not View Willy. You still seem very confused. Maybe you should get checked? I know David and I don't think he EVER did TM. He was one of these guys who just took off to India at a early age. He studied with actual tantrics and wouldn't have wasted his time on techniques for the general public. People want SO MUCH to read in a bunch of special stuff to what is essentially a butt simple meditation technique. Frawley is in India a lot; he knows very well the super-status Maharishi has in that country within the upper classes. Thousands of Maharishi Veda Vidya Peeths have made this happen. David Frawley also have taken panchakarma-treatment in a jungle-ayurveda-clinic of Kerala, run by an Ayurvedic Doctor very well known to Maharishi as he stayed in Vlodrop for about 2 years. And to myself; I stayed in his jungle-retreat 2 weeks a couple of years ago. Having been so close to Maharishi for years this Vaidya was in Bliss. If you have a chance to meet this Rishi-like Vaidya; please do ! When I talked to people in India MMY was like some distant celebrity who you could tell didn't know that much about and didn't care that much either. Usually their comments were something to the order of how MMY popularized meditation in the west. But TM wasn't something they would practice. Dr. Lad was also very well known to MMY and he was MMY's first choice to head MAPI. MMY probably knew many people. And some of those people didn't want anything to do with his movement. When I was in Kerala there was a nearby vaidya who advertised Maharishi Ayurveda. I made a trip to his office but it was not the Maharishi Ayurveda we know and had nothing to do with the movement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:33 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---Vaj...your endless broken record on a claim that mindfulness is non-dual but TM produces duality is nonsensical without clarification re: exactly what you are talking about. Be more specific, then your ideas (if fruitful) might wallow inside somebody's head a few seconds rather than going in one ear and out the other. I'm listening.but haven't heard much. There you go again claiming I said things I never have said! I've never said that mindfulness meditation is nondual meditation. It could be just be that you're not ripe for understanding, I dunno. I find many TM fans are stuck in a fallacious mindset, and have a hard time getting what different forms of meditation are about, whether it's different forms of Hindu meditation or whatever. This is certainly not their fault, as TM teachers are not taught the important differences. They mostly get that different states of consciousness have different qualities and that cognition is different, but fail to grasp that there are different styles of meditation for those differing states of consciousness: 'meditative praxis (or non-praxis) is structured in consciousness'. My only conclusion is that (possibly) the danger of buying into a system of practice, without critical thinking or questioning and comparison causes one to become blinded by their passivity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret
do.rflex wrote: Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret... It was great to see Cronkite live long enough to see the man who rushed him into retirement - Rather - get eliminated himself. As Rather fell into the gutter he said Is this the end of Little Ceasar!? just like an old movie actor! Read more comments: Radar Online: http://tinyurl.com/r3m27s http://tinyurl.com/r3m27s
[FairfieldLife] Chris Matthews Smacks Nutbag Birther Congressman Around
Playing to the Wackos On Hardball last night, Rep. John Campbell (R-CA) tried to defend his bill to clarify the citizenship requirements to be President of the United States. First Read: Speaking of the conservative base, is anyone else stunned that a member of the United States Congress wouldn't unequivocally say that Barack Obama was born in the United States? ... Why are elected officials feeding this conspiracy theory? As the Morning Joe crew noted today, what do these conspiracy theorists think -- a single mother, 47 years ago, secretly had the president in Indonesia and then hours later decided to get a Hawaii birth announcement because she thought he'd be president? It's an amazing clip that you have to see to believe. ~ Chris Matthews Smacks Down Birther Rep. Campbell; Makes Him Admit Obama is U.S. Citizen ~ Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVndfV4--5g via: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/07/22/playing_to_the_wackos.html
[FairfieldLife] Exodus, A Journey to Self-Realization
To All: The Exodus is the Hebrew's testament of their own journey to self-realization as a people. Specifically, they triumphed in their struggle out of bondage in Egypt. They were given the Ten Commandments as a record of their attaining knowledge of the Truth through Moses, their leader. They were promised a land of milk and honey in Canaan, the symbol of freedom and bliss in unity consciousness. Can the Kabbalah tell us of anything more?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
---On the contrary! In terms of comparisons (as a percentile)...; I'd be in the upper 1% in terms of real investigations. In the Sant Mat tradition alone I've been initiaed by Kirpal Singh, Paul Twitchell, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh; and am familiar with the teachings of a number of other such teachers. In Buddhism (etc). I've investigated TM thoroughly, having practiced it continuously since 1967; but unlike you, I have no particular biased investment in anything other than strictly scientific evaluations. If somebody came to me and said: try (standing on my head and rubbing my tummy...) saying that would be of some benefit, I would give it a try. It's simply that your anti-TM/anti-MMY attitude sucks; smacking of some underlying mental aberration. I'm not a MMY-bot; but your ongoing diatribes are most unusual. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:33 PM, yifuxero wrote: ---Vaj...your endless broken record on a claim that mindfulness is non-dual but TM produces duality is nonsensical without clarification re: exactly what you are talking about. Be more specific, then your ideas (if fruitful) might wallow inside somebody's head a few seconds rather than going in one ear and out the other. I'm listening.but haven't heard much. There you go again claiming I said things I never have said! I've never said that mindfulness meditation is nondual meditation. It could be just be that you're not ripe for understanding, I dunno. I find many TM fans are stuck in a fallacious mindset, and have a hard time getting what different forms of meditation are about, whether it's different forms of Hindu meditation or whatever. This is certainly not their fault, as TM teachers are not taught the important differences. They mostly get that different states of consciousness have different qualities and that cognition is different, but fail to grasp that there are different styles of meditation for those differing states of consciousness: 'meditative praxis (or non-praxis) is structured in consciousness'. My only conclusion is that (possibly) the danger of buying into a system of practice, without critical thinking or questioning and comparison causes one to become blinded by their passivity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM, scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. There's more to my story. Since there were no gays in residence courses I attended, the question came up about homosexuals. The pat answer given was that gays had deep stresses which they just needed to work out by meditating and going to residence courses. When the stress clears they wouldn't be gay anymore. Any idea how close you are to THE BIG ONE?
[FairfieldLife] Carter Leaves Southern Baptists
Some Age of Enlightenment News Leaving Southern Baptists for Equal rights, Jimmy Carter spurns Southern Baptists. http://tinyurl.com/lr25yy FW: this is a remarkably courageous stand to take for anyonebut from former president jimmy carter, its pretty amazing. interesting too that it is in an australian newspaper...no real note of this in american press that i am aware of! http://www.theage.com.au:80/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html?page=-1
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM, scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. There's more to my story. Since there were no gays in residence courses I attended, the question came up about homosexuals. On my TTC in 1970 at Estes Park, CO, IIRC Maharishi's personal cook was a flamboyant gay man. The pat answer given was that gays had deep stresses which they just needed to work out by meditating and going to residence courses. When the stress clears they wouldn't be gay anymore. Any idea how close you are to THE BIG ONE?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: MUMBAI : Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom. Let me get this straight. This is what we're meditating twice a day to become? In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. Anyone dumb enough to eat that food or drink that water is fulfilling the Darwin Principle. Pregnant women are advised to stay indoors to prevent their babies developing birth defects, while prayers, fasting and ritual bathing, particularly in holy rivers, are encouraged. Stay indoors but take ritual baths in rivers. So these people have their houses built upon rivers? Astrologers have predicted a rise in communal and regional violence in the days following the eclipse, particularly in India, China and other Southeast Asian nations where it can be seen on Wednesday morning. We're talking India and Asia. Do the Indians ever vote a politician out of office any other way but being dispatched by their Sikh bodyguards? Mumbai astrologer Raj Kumar Sharma predicted some sort of attack by (Kashmiri separatists) Jaish-e-Mohammad or Al-Qaeda on Indian soil and a devastating natural disaster in Southeast Asia. This is like predicting day follows night (except in times of eclipse). An Indian political leader could be killed, he said, and tension between the West and Iran is likely to increase, escalating into possible US military action after September 9, when fiery Saturn moves from Leo into Virgo. This is the way of Indian politics. The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war, he told AFP. Plus or minus 100 years of the even, I suspect. *Primarily, what we see with all these soothsayers and astrologers is that they're looking for opportunities to enhance their business with predictions of danger and calamity*, he told AFP. They have been very powerful in India but over the last decade they have been in systematic decline. But there's hope. There's Maharishi Jyotish.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's incarnations
If you want to find out, start with Ramses II
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Bhairitu wrote: But TM wasn't something they would practice. All the Self-realized teachers in India practice 'TM', but they might not call their practice TM, but they all practice a meditation that is transcendental. According to David Frawly, all the great sages of India were Vedantins and all the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists: Raman Maharshi, Aurobindo, Anandamay Ma, Nityananda, Ramakrishna. Without understanding Vedanta it is very difficult to understand. Excerpt: 'Vedantic Meditation: Lighting the Flame of Awareness' By David Frawley Page 4
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: On my TTC in 1970 at Estes Park, CO, IIRC Maharishi's personal cook was a flamboyant gay man. Gays gravitated towards Him and He did not mind as long they did not practise. Tons of american gays were working in Seelisberg and as course-leaders all over Europe in the 70'ies. Not that there is anything wrong with that
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: On my TTC in 1970 at Estes Park, CO, IIRC Maharishi's personal cook was a flamboyant gay man. Gays gravitated towards Him and He did not mind as long they did not practise. Tons of american gays were working in Seelisberg and as course-leaders all over Europe in the 70'ies. Not that there is anything wrong with that That was MMY's attitude towards many aspects of life. Not unusually, when someone in the field (e.g. in their own country) was engaged in some behavior that was considered iffy (e.g. a woman TM teacher becoming pregnant outside of marriage), MMY would ask what would the local culture's reaction be. If he was told it would be negative, then the person would be asked to not teach or work in the TMO - end of story. To MMY, the TMO came first, we were the cannon fodder.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM, scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. There's more to my story. Since there were no gays in residence courses I attended, the question came up about homosexuals. The pat answer given was that gays had deep stresses which they just needed to work out by meditating and going to residence courses. When the stress clears they wouldn't be gay anymore. Any idea how close you are to THE BIG ONE? I've been around the TMO long enough to hear many of the actual words MMY used in answering questions about gays and hear second-hand (whether accurate or not) other statements he has supposed to have said. Your pat answer is correct - it is the TMO line (not, of course, in public). MMY's comments over they years had a variety of nuances (sometimes anger towards homosexuals, other times tolerance - in a don't ask, don't tell way), but I no longer have any interest in discussing these. Regarding your question: As I said in a recent post, right now I am going through a dry spell, but I've been close not just to THE BIG ONE, but to MANY BIG ONES over the years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Gays gravitated towards Him and He did not mind as long they did not practise. Tons of american gays were working in Seelisberg and as course-leaders all over Europe in the 70'ies. Not that there is anything wrong with that I think I get your point of live and let live in your last line. But over many years, I have seen great sadness in people being put in the position of not being able to talk openly about their partners, etc and knowing well that the official TMO atmosphere (regardless of what MMY said) was We don't want you here. And these were people who were devoted to their spiritual growth through TM and in many cases, voluntarily celibate. Not surprisingly, some of the biggies in the TMO who were/are so far in the closet that they are (pardon the pun) totally screwed, were/are the most homophobic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter Leaves Southern Baptists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Some Age of Enlightenment News Leaving Southern Baptists for Equal rights, Jimmy Carter spurns Southern Baptists. http://tinyurl.com/lr25yy FW: this is a remarkably courageous stand to take for anyonebut from former president jimmy carter, its pretty amazing. interesting too that it is in an australian newspaper...no real note of this in american press that i am aware of! http://www.theage.com.au:80/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html?page=-1 I seem to recall that while president, Jimmy was a member of a Baptist church in Plains, GA that was officially segregated. During that time, to make a point, a Black woman attempted to become a member and her membership rebuffed. The Church held a vote upholding the segregation rule. Carter was asked whether he'd give up him membership in the congregation and his reply was something to the effect: no, I won't because even though they are wrong, I am still a member of the church. It's not the first time my memory has been faulty on these things but that's the way I remember it. If true, then it surprises me that he would leave the church over something that is not as bad as racial segregation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
On Jul 22, 2009, at 4:38 PM, yifuxero wrote:
I've investigated TM thoroughly, having practiced it continuously
since 1967; but unlike you, I have no particular biased investment
in anything other than strictly scientific evaluations.
Well then hopefully you ARE able to look at the science, understand it
and be honest with that. I am. Many others, less so. So you see it's
not a matter of anti, it's a matter of pro (relative) truth.
If somebody came to me and said: try (standing on my head and
rubbing my tummy...) saying that would be of some benefit, I would
give it a try.
It's simply that your anti-TM/anti-MMY attitude sucks; smacking of
some underlying mental aberration.
I'm not a MMY-bot; but your ongoing diatribes are most unusual.
Again, this is your projection. I merely was responding to Willy's
factual faux pas. If people don't like that: too fuckin' bad. I
respond to factual inaccuracies, lies and misstatements as I see them
and when I see fit, whether they are historical ('Marshy's a life-long
celibate and yogi!'), scientific ('science shows TM to be the bestest
there is!') or spiritual ('TM is effortless!'). If you want to
maintain the lying status quo, you're welcome to your delusions, just
as Willy is. Perhaps it comforts you.
And you are a TM-bot IMO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu wrote: But TM wasn't something they would practice. All the Self-realized teachers in India practice 'TM', but they might not call their practice TM, but they all practice a meditation that is transcendental. The term TM means Transcendental Meditation as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We all said that in our intro lectures. Didn't you? Oh that's right you never became a teacher. Self-realized yogis most likely got an initiation far removed the TM seven steps. They got a guru mantra from their guru who was an acharya. This seed mantra is often too powerful to be given just to anyone. The guru determines if you can handle one or not. This whole practice is far removed from the dime-store meditation at a Neiman-Marcus price that TM is that you can't compare the two. BTW, you can transcend watching analog television too. Should we call that transcendental meditation too? IOW, your definition is WAY TOO BROAD!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter Leaves Southern Baptists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Some Age of Enlightenment News Leaving Southern Baptists for Equal rights, Jimmy Carter spurns Southern Baptists. http://tinyurl.com/lr25yy FW: this is a remarkably courageous stand to take for anyonebut from former president jimmy carter, its pretty amazing. interesting too that it is in an australian newspaper...no real note of this in american press that i am aware of! http://www.theage.com.au:80/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html?page=-1 I seem to recall that while president, Jimmy was a member of a Baptist church in Plains, GA that was officially segregated. During that time, to make a point, a Black woman attempted to become a member and her membership rebuffed. The Church held a vote upholding the segregation rule. Carter was asked whether he'd give up him membership in the congregation and his reply was something to the effect: no, I won't because even though they are wrong, I am still a member of the church. It's not the first time my memory has been faulty on these things but that's the way I remember it. If true, then it surprises me that he would leave the church over something that is not as bad as racial segregation. Here's the story in it's true perspective: ...Then came bad news from Plains. Carter's father Earl had cancer, and in July 1953, he died. The farm had declined in his last years, and there was real danger that it would now be lost, a crushing prospect to Lillian Carter. After some hard thought, Carter decided to resign from the Navy, return to Plains, and help his family... Carter threw himself into farming the way he had his naval duties... The South was changing. The Supreme Court, in the landmark case of Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka (1954), had declared school segregation unconstitutional. Later in neighboring Alabama, an African American woman named Rosa Parks refused to surrender her seat on a city bus to a white person, and she was jailed for it. Black citizens boycotted the bus system and challenged the segregation in court. They were taking a stand against centuries of oppression, and the attitudes of many whites hardened. An organization called the White Citizens Council was formed to maintain the segregated status quo in the South, and its membership blossomed across the region-including Plains, Georgia. Carter was heavily pressured to join the organization in 1958, and was the only white male in Plains to refuse. The council's members boycotted Carter's business, but he stubbornly held out and over time, the boycott fizzled out. Community Involvement and Political Aspirations Hard work and effective management made the Carter farm prosperous by 1959. Jimmy Carter's involvement in his local community increased as he began to serve on local boards for civic entities like hospitals and libraries. He also became a church deacon and Sunday school teacher at the Plains Baptist Church. In 1955 he successfully ran for office for the first time-a seat on Sumter County Board of Education, eventually becoming its chairman. When a new seat in the Georgia State Senate opened up because of federally ordered reapportionment in 1962, Carter entered that race. Initially defeated in the Democratic primary, he was able to prove that his opponent's victory was based on widespread vote fraud. He appealed the result and a judge threw out the fraudulent votes, and Carter was handed the election. During his two terms in the state senate, Carter earned a reputation as a tough, independent operator. He attacked wasteful government practices and helped repeal laws designed to discourage African Americans from voting. Consistent with his past practice and his deeply held principles, when a vote was held in his church to decide on whether to admit blacks to worship there, the vote was nearly unanimous against integration. Of the three dissenting votes, two were cast by Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter. http://millercenter.org/academic/americanpresident/carter/essays/biography/2
[FairfieldLife] Obama administration following the 'lead' of California.
One day my wife's boss told her, Wouldn't it be great if we had no Republicans and just Democrats running our country? California which is on the brink of financial collapse and has been governed from the far left for decades, is blaming a handful of Republicans for all of their financial quandary. California is over 20 billion dollars in debt and has worse credit than a 3rd world dictatorship. Then why are they blaming the few Republicans left in state government for their problems? Because they cannot raise taxes any further without the approval of this small group of reluctant conservatives. You see, it takes a 2/3 majority to approve tax hikes in that state. You might wonder why this should concern us who reside outside of this Gold Coast bastion of social liberalism. Because---What happens in California does not stay in California. Currently the three wise women from California, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer are calling the shots for virtually all of the domestic policies coming out of Washington these days---or at least they are taking credit for the odious endeavors of this dubious administration. Yes, it looks like my wife's boss finally got his wish, now there are not enough Republicans left in National office to stop these three wise women. Finally the country does not have to deal with any more Republicans. Since my wife is now retired, I suggested that she call her old boss and ask him how he likes the way things are going now in the Country now that there are no Republicans influencing government any longer? After all, What happens in California does not stay in California. William Haupt III is a freelance journalist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:50 PM, It's just a ride wrote: MUMBAI : Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom. Let me get this straight. This is what we're meditating twice a day to become? Yep. You got something against violence and turmoil? In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. Anyone dumb enough to eat that food or drink that water is fulfilling the Darwin Principle. LOL...these posts are great. Keep em coming, bill! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Oakland Approves Tax on Marijuana'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: The people who are paying these taxes will have to realize that marijuana is still illegal in the eyes of the federal government. They may get nabbed by federal agents if they're not careful, or clueless. (snip) The Obama administration has called off the Reagan dogs, in regards to the Feds, breaking into clinics in California... They are taking the position, that the states have a right to their vote... So, I doubt the Feds are interested in pursuing marijuana cases... The District Attorney of Dane Co. in Madison, WI, has refused to prosecute marijuana cases here... Also, marijuana is decriminalized in Denver, Colorado, because the police chief there, finds it less harmful then alcohol, and causing less violence, accidents and everything associated with alcohol... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM, scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. There's more to my story. Since there were no gays in residence courses I attended, the question came up about homosexuals. The pat answer given was that gays had deep stresses which they just needed to work out by meditating and going to residence courses. When the stress clears they wouldn't be gay anymore. Any idea how close you are to THE BIG ONE? I've been around the TMO long enough to hear many of the actual words MMY used in answering questions about gays and hear second-hand (whether accurate or not) other statements he has supposed to have said. Your pat answer is correct - it is the TMO line (not, of course, in public). MMY's comments over they years had a variety of nuances (sometimes anger towards homosexuals, other times tolerance - in a don't ask, don't tell way), but I no longer have any interest in discussing these. Regarding your question: As I said in a recent post, right now I am going through a dry spell, but I've been close not just to THE BIG ONE, but to MANY BIG ONES over the years. So, you're saying the size does matter?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carter Leaves Southern Baptists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Some Age of Enlightenment News Leaving Southern Baptists for Equal rights, Jimmy Carter spurns Southern Baptists. http://tinyurl.com/lr25yy FW: this is a remarkably courageous stand to take for anyonebut from former president jimmy carter, its pretty amazing. interesting too that it is in an australian newspaper...no real note of this in american press that i am aware of! http://www.theage.com.au:80/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html?page=-1 I seem to recall that while president, Jimmy was a member of a Baptist church in Plains, GA that was officially segregated. During that time, to make a point, a Black woman attempted to become a member and her membership rebuffed. The Church held a vote upholding the segregation rule. Carter was asked whether he'd give up him membership in the congregation and his reply was something to the effect: no, I won't because even though they are wrong, I am still a member of the church. It's not the first time my memory has been faulty on these things but that's the way I remember it. If true, then it surprises me that he would leave the church over something that is not as bad as racial segregation. Here's the story in it's true perspective: ...Then came bad news from Plains. Carter's father Earl had cancer, and in July 1953, he died. The farm had declined in his last years, and there was real danger that it would now be lost, a crushing prospect to Lillian Carter. After some hard thought, Carter decided to resign from the Navy, return to Plains, and help his family... Carter threw himself into farming the way he had his naval duties... The South was changing. The Supreme Court, in the landmark case of Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka (1954), had declared school segregation unconstitutional. Later in neighboring Alabama, an African American woman named Rosa Parks refused to surrender her seat on a city bus to a white person, and she was jailed for it. Black citizens boycotted the bus system and challenged the segregation in court. They were taking a stand against centuries of oppression, and the attitudes of many whites hardened. An organization called the White Citizens Council was formed to maintain the segregated status quo in the South, and its membership blossomed across the region-including Plains, Georgia. Carter was heavily pressured to join the organization in 1958, and was the only white male in Plains to refuse. The council's members boycotted Carter's business, but he stubbornly held out and over time, the boycott fizzled out. Community Involvement and Political Aspirations Hard work and effective management made the Carter farm prosperous by 1959. Jimmy Carter's involvement in his local community increased as he began to serve on local boards for civic entities like hospitals and libraries. He also became a church deacon and Sunday school teacher at the Plains Baptist Church. In 1955 he successfully ran for office for the first time-a seat on Sumter County Board of Education, eventually becoming its chairman. When a new seat in the Georgia State Senate opened up because of federally ordered reapportionment in 1962, Carter entered that race. Initially defeated in the Democratic primary, he was able to prove that his opponent's victory was based on widespread vote fraud. He appealed the result and a judge threw out the fraudulent votes, and Carter was handed the election. During his two terms in the state senate, Carter earned a reputation as a tough, independent operator. He attacked wasteful government practices and helped repeal laws designed to discourage African Americans from voting. Consistent with his past practice and his deeply held principles, when a vote was held in his church to decide on whether to admit blacks to worship there, the vote was nearly unanimous against integration. Of the three dissenting votes, two were cast by Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter. http://millercenter.org/academic/americanpresident/carter/essays/biography/2 The way I remember it is that the vote occurred during his presidency. But I could be wrong. The reason I remember it the way I do is that an African-American purposely tried to join, something more likely to have happened when Carter was president. Let's not forget what MMY said about segregation when asked about it on one of those TTC video tapes (La Antilla? Mallorca?): See the rose; see the red of the petals segregated from the green stem and the thorns segregated from the leaves... Anyone recall that tape?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama administration following the 'lead' of California.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: One day my wife's boss told her, Wouldn't it be great if we had no Republicans and just Democrats running our country? California which is on the brink of financial collapse and has been governed from the far left for decades, is blaming a handful of Republicans for all of their financial quandary. California is over 20 billion dollars in debt I suspect that California's debt far exceeds 20 billion dollars. I think you're referring to this year's DEFICIT. Their accumulated DEBT consists of all the years' combined deficits since California came into being. and has worse credit than a 3rd world dictatorship. Then why are they blaming the few Republicans left in state government for their problems? Because they cannot raise taxes any further without the approval of this small group of reluctant conservatives. You see, it takes a 2/3 majority to approve tax hikes in that state. You might wonder why this should concern us who reside outside of this Gold Coast bastion of social liberalism. Because---What happens in California does not stay in California. Currently the three wise women from California, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer are calling the shots for virtually all of the domestic policies coming out of Washington these days---or at least they are taking credit for the odious endeavors of this dubious administration. Yes, it looks like my wife's boss finally got his wish, now there are not enough Republicans left in National office to stop these three wise women. Finally the country does not have to deal with any more Republicans. Since my wife is now retired, I suggested that she call her old boss and ask him how he likes the way things are going now in the Country now that there are no Republicans influencing government any longer? After all, What happens in California does not stay in California. William Haupt III is a freelance journalist.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: [snip] In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. [snip] Well in Gibson mythology (as in Mel) a solar eclispse means that the gods are satisfied and this ends the sacrificing of humans. Anyone else see Apocalypto? An incredible movie, it really should have been nominated for at least best foreign language film (not a word of English is spoken) or best picture. Of course, this was rights around when he had his anti-semitic incident which put the Kabosh on the whole thing. As far as I'm concerned it WAS the best picture of the year.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's incarnations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: If you want to find out, start with Ramses II One of Jesus' Disciples...not sure which one?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's incarnations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: If you want to find out, start with Ramses II One of Jesus' Disciples...not sure which one? The one known as 'Maharishi Patanjali'...(Yogic Guy, in Himalayan Mountain High, I seen it raining fire in the sky...you know he's be a poorer man, if he never'd seen an Eagle Soar...Fly, Himalayan High, Rishikesh, Himalayan High, Rishikesh...India...(Old School). Bobby G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama administration following the 'lead' of California.
BillyG. wrote: One day my wife's boss told her, Wouldn't it be great if we had no Republicans and just Democrats running our country? California which is on the brink of financial collapse and has been governed from the far left for decades, is blaming a handful of Republicans for all of their financial quandary. California is over 20 billion dollars in debt and has worse credit than a 3rd world dictatorship. Then why are they blaming the few Republicans left in state government for their problems? Because they cannot raise taxes any further without the approval of this small group of reluctant conservatives. You see, it takes a 2/3 majority to approve tax hikes in that state. You might wonder why this should concern us who reside outside of this Gold Coast bastion of social liberalism. Because---What happens in California does not stay in California. Currently the three wise women from California, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer are calling the shots for virtually all of the domestic policies coming out of Washington these days---or at least they are taking credit for the odious endeavors of this dubious administration. Yes, it looks like my wife's boss finally got his wish, now there are not enough Republicans left in National office to stop these three wise women. Finally the country does not have to deal with any more Republicans. Since my wife is now retired, I suggested that she call her old boss and ask him how he likes the way things are going now in the Country now that there are no Republicans influencing government any longer? After all, What happens in California does not stay in California. William Haupt III is a freelance journalist. Don't forget that California led the nation with Reaganomics too. California needs to get rid of the 2/3 majority rule so that budget impasses don't occur. We also don't need the Tories or I mean Republicans to fear taxing the rich in California a little extra (which many of them have said they can tolerate). And by rich I don't mean folks at ~$100K a year. That's the middle class in this state. Both sides are to blame. Both needed to recognize that what goes up must come down. That boom times aren't endless. To budget for a surplus for disastrous times. If you have deflation then you don't need to keep paying pensions at the same rate. Some state employee pensions are ridiculous as well as some for city police and firefighters. It's like they won the lottery. Administrators are paid too much in many state positions and they aren't worth that much. In fact the state is administration heavy. That said California is one of the most corrupt states in the Union. But what would you expect from a state that got its start during the wild and woolly days of the Gold Rush? On a sidenote my local community just banned smoking about everywhere. I was listening to smokers at the local Starbucks complain about it the other day. Up until now the rule was no smoking within 20 feet of an establishment doorway. Now they can't smoke anywhere on the patio. What I should have asked the smokers if they had gone before the City Council to protest the new regulation. My bet is that none of them did. Which leads me to my next point that the state is going to rob city coffers for money. That new smoking law is obviously a revenue generator (a $100 fine). I am going encourage a strong citizen watchdog committee to see they don't start regulating further or soon they will be ruling a ghost town (and California has many of those some dating back to the Gold Rush).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: [snip] In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. [snip] Well in Gibson mythology (as in Mel) a solar eclispse means that the gods are satisfied and this ends the sacrificing of humans. Anyone else see Apocalypto? An incredible movie, it really should have been nominated for at least best foreign language film (not a word of English is spoken) or best picture. Of course, this was rights around when he had his anti-semitic incident which put the Kabosh on the whole thing. As far as I'm concerned it WAS the best picture of the year. Eclipses often due to their extra gravitational effects often give rise to geophysical events such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Hence the mythology.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Oakland Approves Tax on Marijuana'
Robert wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: The people who are paying these taxes will have to realize that marijuana is still illegal in the eyes of the federal government. They may get nabbed by federal agents if they're not careful, or clueless. (snip) The Obama administration has called off the Reagan dogs, in regards to the Feds, breaking into clinics in California... They are taking the position, that the states have a right to their vote... So, I doubt the Feds are interested in pursuing marijuana cases... The District Attorney of Dane Co. in Madison, WI, has refused to prosecute marijuana cases here... Also, marijuana is decriminalized in Denver, Colorado, because the police chief there, finds it less harmful then alcohol, and causing less violence, accidents and everything associated with alcohol... r.g. Yeh, let's all get stoned and got tear down the town .. or maybe go grab something to eat instead. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary sidelined?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , azgrey no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , azgrey no_reply@ wrote: Fail. Ad hominem. You lose Judy. Again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: Gee whiz, is Barry already drunk this early in the day? Recent comments by azgray[sic] Calm down sweetie. Unclench your teeth. When you get hysterical like this your spelling goes to heck. Oooo, he really doesn't like having his spelling mistakes pointed out, especially by a woman. Bwahahaha You make me laff. Let me get this straight *I* point out to *you* YOUR spelling mistake in the very first line of *your* post. This somehow, in your fantasy world, means that I don't like having my spelling mistakes pointed out, that my dislike is somehow exacerbated by your being a woman and that I must have castration anxiety and an irrational fear of vaginas containing teeth. Riight. You are a very very strange angry bird. Why you take such bizarre tacks on a spiritual message board I'll never know. It sullies the vibe, sucks the oxygen out of the room, and appeals to the basest of feelings. Shame on you. You lose. Again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret
CourageCourage. --- On Wed, 7/22/09, WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: WillyTex no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 8:22 PM do.rflex wrote: Walter Cronkite was asked what was his greatest regret... It was great to see Cronkite live long enough to see the man who rushed him into retirement - Rather - get eliminated himself. As Rather fell into the gutter he said Is this the end of Little Ceasar!? just like an old movie actor! Read more comments: Radar Online: http://tinyurl. com/r3m27s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
All the Self-realized teachers in India practice 'TM', but they might not call their practice TM, but they all practice a meditation that is transcendental. Bhairitu wrote: The term TM means Transcendental Meditation as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We all said that in our intro lectures. Didn't you? You need to cut the bullshit, Barry - there's no 'TM' - you guys made that up. Everyone on the planet meditates. There's probably not a person alive who doesn't once or twice pause to take stock of their own mental contents. And everyone is transcending too, all the time, even without a technique. Meditation is just what intelligent people do. You're trying to sell water down by the river. Oh that's right you never became a teacher. I've been a teacher for over fifty years. I was a Zen Master before I even tried TM, so why would I want to teach TM? But, I've been teaching a meditation that is transcendental ever since I learned TM, but I don't call it TM. Self-realized yogis most likely got an initiation far removed the TM seven steps. There's only one Transcendetal, and some of the Self-realized yogis didn't get intiated by anyone. But they all realized the Absolute, one way or another. That's why they are called Vedantists, they went beyond the material world, they transcended the world of name and form, they went beyond the relative, and transcended time and space. They got a guru mantra from their guru who was an acharya. I don't think Shri Aurobindo or the Ramana Marshy got a guru mantra from anyone, ot that they had an acharya to get one from. This seed mantra is often too powerful to be given just to anyone. Millions of people got a seed mantra or a bija from the Marshy, and millions of people said they enjoyed. There must be billions of people out there who use bija mantras in their meditation these days. Why are you TMers so secretive? The guru determines if you can handle one or not. This whole practice is far removed from the dime-store meditation at a Neiman-Marcus price that TM is that you can't compare the two. BTW, you can transcend watching analog television too. Should we call that transcendental meditation too? According to the Marshy, any technique that provides an opprotunity for transcending can be termed Transcendental Meditation. IOW, your definition is WAY TOO BROAD! All the Upanishadic teachers were transcendentalists. All the Self-realized masters practiced a meditation that is transcendental.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary sidelined?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: Fail. Ad hominem. You lose Judy. Again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Gee whiz, is Barry already drunk this early in the day? Recent comments by azgray[sic] Calm down sweetie. Unclench your teeth. When you get hysterical like this your spelling goes to heck. g r ey Should I type more slowly? Maybe you could get somebody to proof read your posts before you hit send. a s s h o l e [http://imgur.com/TDWFt.jpg] Now *that* is funny. I believe it will be lost on the humor impaired Raunchy remora.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary sidelined?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: Fail. Ad hominem. You lose Judy. Again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Gee whiz, is Barry already drunk this early in the day? Recent comments by azgray[sic] Calm down sweetie. Unclench your teeth. When you get hysterical like this your spelling goes to heck. g r ey Should I type more slowly? Maybe you could get somebody to proof read your posts before you hit send. a s s h o l e [http://imgur.com/TDWFt.jpg] Now *that* is funny. I believe it will be lost on the humor impaired Raunchy remora.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary sidelined?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Ouch! Vagina Dentata What all you pseudofeminists wish for. :-) Only to cut the misogynists down to size. Men who really dig women have nothing to fear. Men who really dig women have an intuitive skill-in-action of never associating with women who fantasize about mythical forms of castration. You are a Jungian analyst's dream come true.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Solar eclipse pits superstition against science
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: [snip] In Hindu mythology, the two demons Rahu and Ketu are said to swallow the sun during eclipses, snuffing out its life-giving light and causing food to become inedible and water undrinkable. [snip] Well in Gibson mythology (as in Mel) a solar eclispse means that the gods are satisfied and this ends the sacrificing of humans. Anyone else see Apocalypto? An incredible movie, it really should have been nominated for at least best foreign language film (not a word of English is spoken) or best picture. Of course, this was rights around when he had his anti-semitic incident which put the Kabosh on the whole thing. As far as I'm concerned it WAS the best picture of the year. There is a kind of table/platform, in Tulum, Mexico...one of the last Mayan settlements, on the coast...a really beautiful, wild area... Last time I was there, I met an Italian guy, living on the beach, with a harem of girls, in his midst, on the windy beach...not a bad life...he was in his 20's... Anyway, from what I heard, back in he day of the Mayan: The 'young maiden girls'...girls 13-14 years old, used to vie for the 'honor' of being sacrificed... They musta had a slightly different world view...hard for us to imagine. Then there's the magnificent Mayan site at Chitzen Itza, Yucatan, Mexico, where if you climb to the top of the pyramid, you can see, for many miles, in all directions...and the energy, standing at the top of the pyramid, incredible... ...worth the trip...but wait...on the bus ride there...you see these Native Indians, living in the area, hawking armadillos, chasing th bus, which I heard the eat down there...too gross for words! The people live in privitive thatched roof huts, like they have for at least a thousand years...really like going back in time. r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Perception vs. Reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Her fantasies always revolve around how her enemies fear her and are devastated by her shouted insults There's a shopping cart lady on my block who believes the same thing The only differences between her and Judy Stein as far as I can tell are that 1) the shopping cart lady has no Internet connection and 2) the shopping cart lady, in her sane moments, knows that no one pays any attention to anything she says The shopping cart lady is IMO far more sane and far more evolved than Judy Stein Anyone who believes that the people who are laughing at her are doing so out of fear is one step away from living the rest of her life out of a shopping cart When Judy finally stops posting to Fairfield Life you'll know why and who she's yelling at now But it'll be in New Jersey, not Spain, so even on that count my local shopping cart lady wins You have read her longer than I. Did her writings ever indicate a firmer grip on reality? Fear and shouted insults indeed. I think she actually believes it. It seems like she really believes she inspires fear in people whose contact with her is thru photons and electrons over fiber-optic cable and copper wire. Brunhilde with an Intel chip on her shoulder. Should she ever become more self-aware she will realize she inspires laughter and pity. At least your local shopping cart lady has a possibility of someday actually engaging in civil conversation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
WillyTex wrote: All the Self-realized teachers in India practice 'TM', but they might not call their practice TM, but they all practice a meditation that is transcendental. Bhairitu wrote: The term TM means Transcendental Meditation as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. We all said that in our intro lectures. Didn't you? You need to cut the bullshit, Barry - there's no 'TM' - you guys made that up. Everyone on the planet meditates. There's probably not a person alive who doesn't once or twice pause to take stock of their own mental contents. And everyone is transcending too, all the time, even without a technique. Meditation is just what intelligent people do. You're trying to sell water down by the river. Does this mean that everybody is a Texan too (perish the thought)? Oh that's right you never became a teacher. I've been a teacher for over fifty years. I was a Zen Master before I even tried TM, so why would I want to teach TM? But, I've been teaching a meditation that is transcendental ever since I learned TM, but I don't call it TM. I'll have to ask my Zen friends if they've every heard of you. I think you'll full of shit. Self-realized yogis most likely got an initiation far removed the TM seven steps. There's only one Transcendetal, and some of the Self-realized yogis didn't get intiated by anyone. But they all realized the Absolute, one way or another. That's why they are called Vedantists, they went beyond the material world, they transcended the world of name and form, they went beyond the relative, and transcended time and space. So you are trying to put boundaries on the boundless? What kind of Zen is that? They got a guru mantra from their guru who was an acharya. I don't think Shri Aurobindo or the Ramana Marshy got a guru mantra from anyone, ot that they had an acharya to get one from. Are you sure? Did they teach mantra meditation? I don't recall Ramana Maharishi did or are you referring to someone who hung out in the marsh lands? This seed mantra is often too powerful to be given just to anyone. Millions of people got a seed mantra or a bija from the Marshy, and millions of people said they enjoyed. There must be billions of people out there who use bija mantras in their meditation these days. Why are you TMers so secretive? The term seed mantra means guru mantra not beej mantra. The guru determines if you can handle one or not. This whole practice is far removed from the dime-store meditation at a Neiman-Marcus price that TM is that you can't compare the two. BTW, you can transcend watching analog television too. Should we call that transcendental meditation too? According to the Marshy, any technique that provides an opprotunity for transcending can be termed Transcendental Meditation. So he wouldn't cared if the Shivananda Center said they were teaching Transcendental Meditaton on their posters? Somehow I don't think so. IOW, your definition is WAY TOO BROAD! All the Upanishadic teachers were transcendentalists. All the Self-realized masters practiced a meditation that is transcendental. Is that so?
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: So, you're saying the size does matter? Well, yes. However, it actually matters more to women than to gay men, because (as is well known) gay men are better endowed than straight men. Although this was not part of your question, the issue of size has given rise to some very consistent research findings over the last two decades. Most women get along very well with gay men. However, there has always been a small minority of women who seem to highly (I mean over-the-top) despise gay men and seem to particularly rant about gay men to their boyfriends. For a long time the reason(s) for this baffled the most rigorous research scientists, but a consistent series of results providing a reason for this has now been accepted by research professionals. Apparently, these women all shared one common life experience when they were part of these research studies - they were dating men with extremely small penises - I mean _extremely_ small, real piddly little ones. Follow-up research clearly showed that when these women were later interviewed, only those who were still dating men with small penises had retained their negative attitude towards gay men. Women who were dating men with average or bigger penises showed no trace of such animosity. In fact, some denied ever having had negative feelings towards gay men!! Fascinating, isn't it? It's a weird world we live in, but it's good to know why people behave in a certain way when we're with them so then we can be more tolerant and loving and compassionate and considerate and caring and gentle and not take things personally.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Oakland Approves Tax on Marijuana'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Robert wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: The people who are paying these taxes will have to realize that marijuana is still illegal in the eyes of the federal government. They may get nabbed by federal agents if they're not careful, or clueless. (snip) The Obama administration has called off the Reagan dogs, in regards to the Feds, breaking into clinics in California... They are taking the position, that the states have a right to their vote... So, I doubt the Feds are interested in pursuing marijuana cases... The District Attorney of Dane Co. in Madison, WI, has refused to prosecute marijuana cases here... Also, marijuana is decriminalized in Denver, Colorado, because the police chief there, finds it less harmful then alcohol, and causing less violence, accidents and everything associated with alcohol... r.g. Yeh, let's all get stoned and got tear down the town .. or maybe go grab something to eat instead. ;-) Brainwashed! ...marijuana generally elicits a peaceful response in people, and sometimes, will open up the higher chakras... There was no one tearing anything down at Woodstock... Alcohol, on the other hand, leads people down all kinds of dark roads...because it cuts off the higher chakras, and empowers the lower ones...it is associated with all kinds of violence and even demonic possessions and 'Black-Outs', where the soul actually leaves the body, and people do things, that they don't even remember doing... When you go into a bar, you are opening yourself to all kinds of bad influences there...it's just a fact. Alcohol and pharm drugs have become the mainstream in keeping Americans drunk and sleep walking Check out what happened in the 1800's, when the drunken Irish mobs, burnt down the black sections of New York City... Check out how the Nazis, used to get drunk, before doing their demonic deeds...and in order to black out their memories of such deeds... Marijuana needs to be legalized in the United States, and this would be a necessary step, in cleaning up the mafia influence, as well as the medicinal benefits, which would replace, many more harmful and addictive pharma drugs... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: I know this is sacrilegious, but I can't help it: Mantra for Gays: Shri Homo Homo Namah Om Mantra for Lesbians: Shri Femme Femme Namah Om Mantra for Hillary lovers who can't let go: Shri Butch Butch Namah Swoon :-) As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. As someone who is a confirmed hetero whose attitude towards the gay lifestyle is live and let live, I dig the sense of humor you display on FFL. I would wager it was a considerable internal help in your TMO days. You crack me up. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Shemp is OUTRAGED by himself.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [snip] Well, then, I'm confused because it was only a few short weeks ago that you were complaining that I was outing you by using your real name in a post Lying does not help your argument. The only time I was angry was when you gave my name and location to someone seeking money for a scam, and pretended to be me, as if I was offering him to come stay and have some money (all of which is a crime by the way.) You act like a low life, a scumbag, a troll, and a dirty old man. I am sure you are not like that. Your nastiness is eating away at your stomach and your brain, and you can feel it can't you? Put your name up, set yourself free from your cowardly self Mr. Nowhere Man. OffWorld Shemp is OUTRAGED ... by himself: When exactly did I do all this? ! ! When did I pretend to be you and give your name and location to someone who would bilk you in a scam? ! ! What are you talking about? ! ! Its right here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/203411 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/203411 Its message 203411 of FFL. ---OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] 'Frozen still, in all of the possibilities...'
By Gillian MacBeth-Louthan As we move thru this year, the weight of our do’s and don’ts seem to get heavier, denser and more solid than anytime in the past. They gather around and cement themselves at our feet, creating an immovable sinking feeling. Our intentions chomp at the bit, our soul gives us the green light, but our human little self-stands tall and still. We sink deeper and deeper into despair and dis-repair, as we beat ourselves with the proverbial wet noodle. We spend vast amounts of energy disagreeing with ourselves, our shoulds, and our suppose to's. Trying to tame what seems to be the wild beast of indecision, the monster that holds us back, always blocking our way into happiness, into love, and into abundance. With the amount of energy that we spend on arguing with ourselves, we could build malls, erect towers, sculpt obelisks, and maybe even a great pyramid or two. Yet still we stand still, as we sink deeper in the quicksand of immobility, into the quagmire of non-action. We continually sabotage our dreams our desires, our future, in an effort to save the rainforests of the old self. We hold tight to that which once served us. Numbing our ability to move into the new, the shinier, and the bright future of our dreams. Why are we afraid to move forward? Why are we afraid to take action, to act on? Everyone on earth is feeling the transformation. We all know that there is no staying in the comfort zone, the null and void zone. We know it is time to get up off the benches of the old self of the past and move into the playing field of the new, the now. Yet when it comes our turn to bat, we freeze. Frozen still in all of the possibilities, the new doorways the wonders of our future. Embracing our ‘Popsicle consciousness’. Like Frosty the snowman, waiting fearfully for spring, knowing the change is inevitable. Frosty could move into a pattern that assisted this change, but chooses not to. Humanity is destined and designed to change and for change. Like water, we each have the potential to experience many forms. We have our liquid days, our solid days, our vaporous days, and our evaporated days. We can be as an iceberg, a stream, a cloud, a raindrop, mist, or an ocean. We are 90% water. We ebb and flow with every new thought, every sunrise, and every storm, every eclipse. Yet year after year, we yearn to stay still, stay stuck, stay constant and in our comfort zone. The only true constant that we really have is the fact that we will always shift and change! Understand that the restlessness and yearning within you are promptings and pushings from the Universe (aka God). Gentle reminders it is time to let go, it is time to go and it is time to change. Resistance is no longer fertile. Nothing can grow in your resistance. Embrace the word ‘Action” (I act on). You are not moving into a future that is less than; change always walks hand and hand with the energy of ‘more.’ You can be nothing less, but you can always (all ways) be more. Gillian MacBeth-Louthan www.thequantumawakening.com
[FairfieldLife] Alex and the Ad Hominums ----was/// Meat-eaters get OWNED !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Meat-eaters get OWNED -- bigtime ! Watch it and weep Turq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNxZ1LFTYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNxZ1LFTYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNxZ1LFTYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNxZ1LFTYI The only thing weep-worthy in that video is the shitty editing and the guy's non-existent grasp of science or reality. Ha ha, the stupid meat-eaters like Alex and Turq. are grasping at straws, still trying to say the Earth is flat: Biologically, humans are omnivores No they are not onmivors, you have been brainwashed. Do more research. Other great apes, like chimps and gorillas, are also omnivorous to varying degrees. No they are not. You are being duped. Do more research. Not that a dimwitted, anti-intellectual troll like Tom Barlow has even the slightest capacity to understand basic science, Good job with the ad-hominum Alex. You loose the argument that way. All intellectuals agree with me on this - that when you use ad hominum attacks it is because you have lost the arguement. Do more research. http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/nov/b12.htm http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/nov/b12.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/09/030930055440.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/09/030930055440.htm http://www.holistichealthtools.com/viagra.html http://www.holistichealthtools.com/viagra.html OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified
How Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081113181428.htm OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified
On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote: How Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified: So can breathing. I hear tell that if you stop breathing you considerably lower your chances of getting lung cancer. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: I know this is sacrilegious, but I can't help it: Mantra for Gays: Shri Homo Homo Namah Om Mantra for Lesbians: Shri Femme Femme Namah Om Mantra for Hillary lovers who can't let go: Shri Butch Butch Namah Swoon :-) As someone who chose the gay lifestyle having carefully considered all other options available to me, I consider the above to be highly, highly sacrilegious, blasphemous, profane, heretical, and irreverent. However, I have been having somewhat of a dry spell recently, so I think I'll give #1 a shot. As someone who is a confirmed hetero whose attitude towards the gay lifestyle is live and let live, I dig the sense of humor you display on FFL. I would wager it was a considerable internal help in your TMO days. You crack me up. Thanks. Nah, its just a bunch of old farts with very little humor. I've nothing against it like, but its just not funny. Its like 14 year old boys humor, and there is nothing funny about it no matter how you look at it. All angles of inquiry merely reveal low levels of humor capability here. Even a postmordernist comedian cannot find this funny. Not even a novice comic could be so lacking in comic creativity. Nothing against it guys, but its not funny. No really. Try that on YouTube or somewhere and you will get so hammered by the audience. Sorry guys, stick to your old grumpy stuff, you're better at that. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 22, 2009, at 9:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote: How Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified: So can breathing. I hear tell that if you stop breathing you considerably lower your chances of getting lung cancer. I stopped breathing many times today. No cancer happened :-) OffWorld Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: So, you're saying the size does matter? Well, yes. However, it actually matters more to women than to gay men, because (as is well known) gay men are better endowed than straight men. Although this was not part of your question, the issue of size has given rise to some very consistent research findings over the last two decades. Most women get along very well with gay men. However, there has always been a small minority of women who seem to highly (I mean over-the-top) despise gay men and seem to particularly rant about gay men to their boyfriends. For a long time the reason(s) for this baffled the most rigorous research scientists, but a consistent series of results providing a reason for this has now been accepted by research professionals. Apparently, these women all shared one common life experience when they were part of these research studies - they were dating men with extremely small penises - I mean _extremely_ small, real piddly little ones. Follow-up research clearly showed that when these women were later interviewed, only those who were still dating men with small penises had retained their negative attitude towards gay men. Women who were dating men with average or bigger penises showed no trace of such animosity. In fact, some denied ever having had negative feelings towards gay men!! Fascinating, isn't it? It's a weird world we live in, but it's good to know why people behave in a certain way when we're with them so then we can be more tolerant and loving and compassionate and considerate and caring and gentle and not take things personally. Yes, Thank you, Mr. President of Sex, Could I have a follow-up question, please? (pause for answer)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: How Eating Red Meat Can Spur Cancer Progression: New Mechanism Identified: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081113181428.htm OffWorld This reminds me of Robert's classic antidote for a good break, from meat eating... Two words: Rice Dahl...
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
- I hereby take back, my attempt at the childish humor, which you correctly establish... I will hereby, make every attempt, to check my judgment at the door, in regards to peoples, persons, humans and others, of their sexual preference or lack of it. Robert G.
