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ensitivity. The ONU about + 0.5 tx and >>>>>>> -28 >>>>>>> rx sens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been very impressed with the optical performance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We did test the ubnt

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>>>>> rx sens. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been very impressed with the optical performance. >>>>>> >>>>>> We did test the ubnt as well. Went with ZTE >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 12, 2018 1:23 PM, &

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g point. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not a simple question for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other reason I would think about GPON is that if a larger company >>>>>> wanted to purchase our network down the road I

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is better later, does that mean a forklift? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/15/2018 4:33:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT We just ring cut the cable at the handholes. Later when a drop comes in to that handh

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t;>>> >>>>>> It's not a simple question for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other reason I would think about GPON is that if a larger company >>>>>> wanted to purchase our network down the road I have to think about what &g

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;>>> a bias towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Original Message -- >>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>

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ve to think about what >>>> THEY will prefer. They'll probably prefer PON. >>>> >>>> Humans are horrible at assessing their own biases, but I probably have >>>> a bias towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind >>>> too.

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: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >>> >>> When doing full throttle Calix GPON we have about $570 invested in cpe >>> electronics, splitter, ont/olt/onu etc. Everything but fiber and outdoor >>> cabinets. >>> >>> When doing active Ethernet you can come

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ind >> too. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 2/12/2018 1:13:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> When doing full throttle Cal

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I am working on a lower cost idea, but if something equivalent to my idea already exists I would rather just buy them. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

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15, 2018 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT We get 17x30x15. Tyco B size will fit but it's tight. A is no prob. On Feb 15, 2018 2:33 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: A splice case and slack will fit OK? Which size do you get for the $82? From: Chris Fabien

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> *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > https://oldcastleenclosures.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/ > 05/WA-Carson_1730.pdf > > Cheked our last order, $82 with the lid bolts. Milennium is our local > supplier that stocks them. > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018

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Nice thing about HDPE is that you can brand your name into the lids with an electric branding iron. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT I've been using these: https://oldcastleenclosures.com/wp-content

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. www.avast.com On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:33 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: A splice case and slack will fit OK? Which size do you get for the $82? From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

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, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > A splice case and slack will fit OK? > Which size do you get for the $82? > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:04 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > https://oldcastleenclosures.c

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A splice case and slack will fit OK? Which size do you get for the $82? From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT https://oldcastleenclosures.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/WA-Carson_1730.pdf Cheked our last order, $82

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t; I took 36” HDPE culvert and and cut it into 24” slices and made steel > lids. But I have more than $75 into just the culvert piece alone. > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:53 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > &

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, Once again not saying it is right or wrong.  All depends on your requirements.  Just wanted to throw out another design option for people to look at.  One of the nice things about GPON is the way one can get very creative with the splits.  I have looked

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:44 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > What are you using for handholes? Full traffic rated handholes are a > large expense. > I am working on a lower cost idea, but if something equivalent to my idea > already exists I would rather just buy them. > > *From:* Chris Fabien &

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On 2/15/18 10:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: And the customer that lost $50K in day trading can’t pay their bill because of that... Of course more often than not the people that "lose money" if their internet goes down are always the people that pick the cheapest service level.

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rated handholes are a large expense. I am working on a lower cost idea, but if something equivalent to my idea already exists I would rather just buy them. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Regarding the d

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTAnd the customer that lost $50K in day trading can’t pay their bill because of that... From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Fiber A & B are fibers on the main

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, It all depends on scale.  Not saying taps won't work, just saying I could never figure out a good way of scaling them beyond maybe 12-16 customers.  Always was afraid to deal with having to take everyone south of the new tap offline.  In the scheme I

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; > > > > > *-- Thursday, February 15, 2018, 12:02:30 PM, you wrote: * > > I know I would be interested in seeing a simple line drawing schematic of > this example. > > *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM > *To:*

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xpense. > I am working on a lower cost idea, but if something equivalent to my idea > already exists I would rather just buy them. > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > Rega

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Fiber A & B are fibers on the main line.  Splice Fiber A to 1x4 splitter to Drop(1-4).  Take Fiber B from main line and splice to drop Fiber 9.  Splice Drop 1 to 1x4 splitter to Drop(5-8).  At this point Drop fibers 5-8 are hot for customers.  Pro

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTI know I would be interested in seeing a simple line drawing schematic of this example. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:22 AM To: Chris Fabien Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, You can do very creative things

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s? > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/14/2018 10:50:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > > Yes, i think its a beautiful fit for lower density rural where you have > l

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, You can do very creative things with splitters.  I just finished designing service to 64 lots down a 4.5 mile dirt road.  We didn't want to spend a bunch of money being there are only about 20 built house right now, but we wanted to make sure we were

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Just like tap loss on CATV if you have ever done one of those. Taps closer to the amp have less insertion loss than taps further down the road. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT You have to change the splitter

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTIn the olden days, 20km restriction was related to timing delay. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:23 PM To: Chris Fabien Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, I think the 60km max reach and 20km ONU restriction is part

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: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Regarding the distance, our ZTE will support up to 60 km, but max difference of 20km between ONU on one PON. There's just a range parameter that needs to be set. We ordered C+ optics and see a real optical budget of 33dB. The OLT is about +5.5 tx and -34 min rx

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>>> >>> On Feb 14, 2018 8:26 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yup that's a thing. That was actually my plan "A", except where he's >>>> got 30-40 houses in 2 miles I've got 5-10. >>>> >>

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ards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind too. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 2/12/2018 1:13:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ou

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>> From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 2/14/2018 10:50:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> Yes, i think its a beautiful fit for lower density rural where you have >> long linear roads. We

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gt; > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/14/2018 10:50:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > Yes, i think its a beautiful fit for lower density rural where you have > lon

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the thing everybody is calling a coupler is a "mating sleeve". -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent:

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t;coupler", and >> the thing everybody is calling a coupler is a "mating sleeve". >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.co

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chris, I think the 60km max reach and 20km ONU restriction is part of the GPON standard and all manufacturers should have it. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com

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towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind > too. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/12/2018 1:13:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > When doing full

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hing everybody is calling a coupler is a "mating sleeve". > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 2/14/2018 7:24:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor

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's called a "coupler", and the thing everybody is calling a coupler is a "mating sleeve". -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/14/2018 7:24:29 PM

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s. You can always >>>> overlay 10GPON on top of your regular GPON network when the time comes to >>>> upgrade. Just add/change the card in the OLT and add a 2x1 splitter to >>>> combine both OLT ports into the single fiber. Since they use different >>&

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; t-detail/Original-Huawei-MA5608T-ZTE-C320-Outdoors_604425626 >> 81.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.2d7a50d9frcsQx >> >> Gerard >> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> That is some scary Bernie Madof

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g.com> wrote: >> >>> That is some scary Bernie Madoff type of pricing. >>> >>> You are using this now? >>> >>> *From:* Gerard Dupont >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [

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You are using this now? >> >> *From:* Gerard Dupont >> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT >> >> Here's some pricing based on Chinese ZTE with no real support. >> >> ZTE F60

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Gerard, Not going to argue about that.  But there were several factors on our zhone equipment decision.  The main factor was when we started several years ago, those super cheap options didn't exist.  Not to mention we didn't have time to experiment

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ebruary 12, 2018 3:58 PM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > Chuck, > > But do you really need to get the cost down that low? I will admit and > most people on this list that know me will agree, I'm a cheap SOB. But, > there is a point where it is

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my mind. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:58 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, But do you really need to get the cost down that low? I will admit and most people on this list that know me will agree, I'm a cheap SOB

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McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > That is some scary Bernie Madoff type of pricing. > > You are using this now? > > *From:* Gerard Dupont > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > Here

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, But do you really need to get the cost down that low?  I will admit and most people on this list that know me will agree, I'm a cheap SOB.  But, there is a point where it is worth paying a bit more up front in order to sleep better at night. -- Best

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That is some scary Bernie Madoff type of pricing. You are using this now? From: Gerard Dupont Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Here's some pricing based on Chinese ZTE with no real support. ZTE F601 Indoor ONU 1 GE port. $24

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Expense * $ 570.67 * > > > *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 12:29 PM > *To:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > Chuck, > > Dug up some of my costs on the GPON. One port with a C+ class laser and a &g

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: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT ah I see. For telephone reliability? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 3:00:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Nope. It is a requirement for regulated areas, not so for u

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ah I see. For telephone reliability? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 3:00:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Nope. It is a requirement for regulated areas, not so for unregulated areas. From:A

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTNope. It is a requirement for regulated areas, not so for unregulated areas. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT There's a UPS included in the parts list for PON setup. Not included

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There's a UPS included in the parts list for PON setup. Not included on AE? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 2:50:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT $100/house for AE You pay for the sp

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT$100/house for AE You pay for the splitters that fit the cabinet and cross box. Some cost more than others depending on the sheet metal. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:44 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, What would you house total be for AE?  Also $900 for 1x32 splitter, you need to find a better vendor.  The bare end PLC's are $14 the fancy connectorized ones are $40 at fs.com.  $11K for a 8 port card and $845 for a Laser, that's why we didn't/couldn't

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It's trivial to convert a homerun active Ethernet network into a PON network. Not so the other way. Jared     Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT That's also a compelling point.   I

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To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Dug up some of my costs on the GPON. One port with a C+ class laser and a 1x32 splitter cost me about $1000. So if I stick with my 50% utilization numbers, that gets me about $62 per user. Plus an indoor ONT gets me about $200-$225

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Dug up some of my costs on the GPON.  One port with a C+ class laser and a 1x32 splitter cost me about $1000. So if I stick with my 50% utilization numbers, that gets me about $62 per user.  Plus an indoor ONT gets me about $200-$225 per customer

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, https://www.fs.com/products/11528.html -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Monday, February 12, 2018, 1:37:09 PM, you wrote: Can you get a splitter

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Can you get a splitter with just bare pigtails? -- Original Message -- From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <m...@mailmt.com> To: "Chuck McCown" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/12/2018 1:09:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, PLC splitter in spice

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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT That's also a compelling point. It's not a simple question for sure. The other reason I would think about GPON is that if a larger company wanted to purchase our network down the road I have

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their own biases, but I probably have a bias towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind too. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 1:13:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT When doi

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having a hard time convincing myself to do PON. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:09 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, PLC splitter in spice case doing full fusion splicing. -- Best regards, Mark

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Don't forget about Claas C+ lasers In terms of OLT Module, the sending power of Class B+ is 1.5~5dBm, and its receiver sensitivity is -28dBm while the sending power of Class C+ is 3~7dBm and receiver sensitivity -32dBm. -- Best regards, Mark

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, PLC splitter in spice case doing full fusion splicing. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com -- Monday, February 12, 2018, 12:09:32 PM, you wrote: Are you

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I seeenlightening. -- Original Message -- From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <m...@mailmt.com> To: "Adam Moffett" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/12/2018 11:55:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, There are some ranging things you have to

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Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLTAre you using splitters in splice cases or in cross connect boxes? From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:55 AM To: Adam Moffett Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, There are some ranging things you have to consider

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To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Maybe I need to review the math. I was figuring on several small splitters along the route. I didn't compare to a 1x32 in the cabinet because I figured if I brought every fiber back to the cabinet then I didn't save anything versus ethernet

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, There are some ranging things you have to consider.  "The requirement when deploying ONTs are the maximum distance between two ONTs cannot exceed 20Km." The way we have done this is to reuse fibers as we travel down long stretches of roa

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;Mark - Myakka Technologies" <m...@mailmt.com> To: "Adam Moffett" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/12/2018 11:30:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, How far are you going? We are pushing almost 20 miles on a 1x32 split. Are you using one 1x32 or multiple smaller sp

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Adam, How far are you going?  We are pushing almost 20 miles on a 1x32 split.  Are you using one 1x32 or multiple smaller splitters? -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com

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g.com Sent: 2/11/2018 11:59:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT If you're looking to do a few houses per mile, it's very likely that fiber doesn't make sense at all. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm looking at rural areas (like a few hou

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t;Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > A few reasons... > > Port cost is still fairly high. > > More splicing. > > More fiber required. > > Larger chassis

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can imagine, but my imagination could be limited. -Adam -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT A few r

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Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT A few reasons... Port cost is still fairly high. More splicing. More fiber required. Larger chassis required. More power required. More

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McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days? > > *From:* Chuck Hogg > *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT > > We are walking away from them and Al

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So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days? From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun

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Why are you walking away from Alphion? I'm curious because we had our own issues. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with > Zhone is different. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018

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We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN > that rescued them from the one they

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ogies" <m...@mailmt.com> To: "Jason McKemie" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:16:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Jason, Dasan and Zhone are the same. There was a merger/take over last year. If you are just loo

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I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN that rescued them from the one they walked far away form. I don't remember which. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Jason, Dasan and Zhone are the same.  There was a merger/take over last year.  If you are just looking for outdoor ONT's, the 42xx GPON is what you want.  Comes in many different flavors. http://dasanzhone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GPON-Outdoor-ONT

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It looked like it has options for coax/fiber hybrid, but their use-case diagram shows a straight fiber setup as well. I do not have any coax either. One of my providers distributes Zhone, not sure if that means they have Dasan as well... Thanks again. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, Mark - Myakka

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Jason, No, we use the 42xx outdoor and the 24xx indoor GPON units.  That looks like a fiber/coax hybird.  We are strictly 100% fiber.  I will have to check with our purchasing guy to see where we are currently getting our units from. -- Best regards, Mark

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Mark - Do you have any experience with the outdoor OLT I linked to? Who are you buying from? Thanks. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Jason, > > We have about 2500 of the DASAN/Zhone onts deployed. A mix of indoor and > outdoor. Been

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Jason, We have about 2500 of the DASAN/Zhone onts deployed.  A mix of indoor and outdoor.  Been using them for at least 6 years.  Let me know if you have any questions. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka