Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace
I can't get it either; all that up is an ad for Adobe Acrobat. - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Amber's kitty palace I cannot get the picture. windstream says is wrong adress. they are having problems now so maybe that is it. Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Everyone, Please dlick on this link to see photos of Amber's new kitty palace. div style=width:480px;text-align:right;embed width=480 height=360 src=http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf; flashvars=rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed1113.photobucket.com% Amber is the felv positive kitty we rescued 7 weeks ago. She was on death's door just absolutely starving and did not look well. She had no energy to even play. After 7 weeks of TLC and good food it is hard for me to believe she has any issues at all. I have three healthy cats upstairs and I am not willing to take the chance of exposing them to the virus even though they have been vaccinated against felv. I am so glad I did not have Amber euthanized! The vet was leaning in that direction. God bless you all for all that you do for our sweet feline friends. Jannes ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing
When I adopted my Mandy, I had six other kitties. When I found (the day after I picked her up) that she was positive, I did keep her separated from the other six until I got all their vaccinations up to date. After that, per my vet's opinion/advice, I let them all interact. Mandy passed away about 2 years later but no one else has gotten sick (and Mandy's been gone for a year now). Pat - Original Message - From: Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I rescued a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic
I just typed Pfizer Pet Tinic into my browser and got hundreds of hits on where to buy this stuff. - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic My vet just gave me some a few weeks ago. That's odd. There are other brands, some even available at pet supply stores. It's not the best, but OK. Did your vet recommend anything to replace it?: -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:05 PM To: feline leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Pfizer Pet-Tinic vet told me that it had been discontinued. what do you recommend instead? m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :(
My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon. In addition to her leukemia, she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI. But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring. She passed very peacefully. But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big hole in my life. I miss everything about her. She was about 9 years old. Pat - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :( Sherry, I am so sorry to hear you had to let your little girl go. I like what you told her about her short sleep and your mom. I can tell she was loved. The ones that talk leave big noise holes in our lives. It was so deathly quiet after Keisha passed. She purred constantly ...a very large purr. Even though I had five other cats and have six again, it's a lot quieter here now. Laurie and tribe -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:33 AM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :( My heart is heavy this morning.My beautiful Mystique had to cross the bridge yesterday.She was with me for almost 2 yrs and had the happiest and sweetest personality.She always talked to me and followed me everywhere.I told her she is going to go to sleep for a short time and when she wakes up my mom will be there waiting for her to carry on loving her,and she will not be sick any longer.She has MANY wonderful souls up there with her.In a way I guess she is the lucky one.I miss you my Tiki Tiki Boom Booms. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mandy
Diane, She was a truly remarkable little kitty and I am glad I knew her for the two and a half years she spent with us. Thank you for your message. Pat - Original Message - From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mandy Pat, I'm so sorry you lost Mandy. She sounds like a wonderful little trouper. Best Bridge vibes to her and a big hug to you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mystique Please add to the CLS :( My little Mandy passed yesterday afternoon. In addition to her leukemia, she was partially blind, totally deaf and had a benign tumor which was on its way to keeping her from being able to walk, and recovering from a UTI. But until just two days ago, she was happy, eating a lot, purring. She passed very peacefully. But, even with 6 other cats, she has left a big hole in my life. I miss everything about her. She was about 9 years old. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Qs re CA/Urgent: FeLV+ senior boy needs money to getto sanctu...
Dear Michael and Char - Thank you for the update. I am sure we are all very happy to have helped get Boscoe to you, where he will live happily ever after. Will look forward to further updates and pictures. Pat K. - Original Message - From: secondchancem...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Qs re CA/Urgent: FeLV+ senior boy needs money to getto sanctu... well Boscoe arrived here this afternoon, and i was drawn to him immediately. this poor kitty really needed a home to go to. I want to thank everyone that donated to his travel and care fund. Both my wife and i are very happy to have him here, we look forward to further updates on his progress in the future Michael and Char Second Chance Meows In a message dated 5/27/2009 4:15:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lauriesk...@mchsi.com writes: Hi Michael, bless you for taking Boscoe. Please keep us posted about him? I would love to see a photo once he has his fur back!! Laurie **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie
I have survived the death of two wonderful, irreplaceable Pixies. I honored the first who died by naming another rescue kitty after her (both torties). I miss them terribly but am very glad I knew them!! Pat - Original Message - From: G D gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Life without Pixie Hi everyone. I really, really appreciate the support and wisdom this group has provided over the last 3 years -- when strange things were happening (frothy clear vomit, a non-dilating pupil) and I didn't know what to do, and especially during the scary and sad days surrounding Pixie's death. This listserv is an example of the internet at its finest, bringing together a warm virtual community of FeLV cat guardians from across the globe. You gave me the courage to adopt FeLV+ Pixie in the first place, when I was only a foster parent to her and had no previous experience with + cats. It's been two weeks without Pixie. Grief feels like a private hell but apparently I'm going through all the normal stages. I was in bad shape when I went to pick up her ashes and the woman at the crematorium asked if Pixie had lived a long life. I could barely reply that she was still a baby when this disease snatched her. But once I got her urn home and put it on the mantle, which was one of her favorite places to perch, I felt strangely relieved: the awful business of deterioration, dying and death was over. I attached her collar tag to my keys (the jingling sound of which made Pixie come running from any corner of the house in the hope she'd get to go outside). I miss her 100 times day. I'm comforted to know that many of you have survived the loss of a beloved cat and have eventually come to love new cats. Onwards and upwards, Giselle _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] patience
My Mandy (felv+) is about 7 and was spayed at about age 4--there were no negatives at all. Seems there are more reasons to spay (avoiding other reproductive-related diseases in the future) than not to (pregnancy, going in and out of heat quite often). - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] patience ok everyone, been in shop, had a bug and just now deleted 400 unwanted messages. now working on important ones (250). please be patient if i answer things our of order and out of date. also just got another furbaby. she showed up around 5 days ago, looking pitiful, only a 3 tail, long haired torty and the most loveable baby you ever saw. bad weather was moving in and i was going back and forth to hospital 60 miles away for my Mary (she had 2 strokes close together) and picking up her mom so she could see her, calling her clients (she is beauty operator) and in general keeping the Silex grape vine informed so took her to my vet and he checked her out and boarded her for 4 days since i could not bring her in with my babies until i knew if she was okay. well, she has felv, a slight urinary infection. but her tail is doing well. he thinks a coyote or something made a grab for her and bit her tail off. she is so sweet, i can't imagine why someone would toss her out to fend for herself. well, she is working in with the others nicely. no one has killed anyone yet. QUESTION, SHE IS OBVIOUSLY IN HEAT. vet says can't do anything until out of heat. i almost have to spay her or she will never be able to go out for fear of having kittens. he said most likely if she had kittens, they would be felv + also. i think i remember conversation of subject of spaying pos kitties. we think she is around 3 years. NEED ADVICE SPAY OR NOT is it safe with her being felv+? we are doing the best test to be double sure and a complete blood profile and urinalysis to make sure all else is well with her and also to get a (normal) base for future reference. OTHER THAN BEING AN OUTRAGEOUS FLIRT, SHE SEEMS TO BE HEALTHY. dorlis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Paragoric
Never tried it for myself--but it is obviously available for animals. And, as I said, it worked when nothing else did. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Paragoric I used to use paragoric for myself for diarrhea but that was years ago. I didn't think they still sold it. Last time I bought it I had to sign for it and that was also years ago. Apparently drug addicts enjoy it, so I thought they took it off the market. Lorrie On 04-05, Gloria B. Lane wrote: Wow, paregoric. Have to remember that. Thanks for the info - Gloria On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Pat Kachur wrote: This probably seems pretty obvious but--my Mandy (Felv) had diarrhea for months, all the time. After trying many things, my vet said use paregoric and the diarrhea stopped like magic and has not returned. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty Debbie and Heather, Thanks for the reply. Maggie has had several(5-6)fecals done and one sent away to a lab as a feline diarrhea panel which cost $160 and checked for fungus, parasites, etc. All of which were normal. She has diarrhea more than she doesn't anymore. She was born in June and began having FELV symptoms in August. The diarrhea has been off and on since then. Do you know is the Fortiflora something you need to get at the vets or can I find it elsewhere? Again thanks for the advice ladies. Tanya Warner --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:32 AM Ditto that all, and, some Fortiflora might not be a bad idea. 2009/4/2 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com First off, I'd like to thank you for keeping this little one despite all of your other demands. Then, has your vet done any fecal testing? Maggie could possibly only need some antibiotic or antiparasitic... Other than that, the wonderful people here will tell you to feed her a good quality diet and keep her life as stress free as possible. Your kitten could conceiveably live a good, long life. Best of luck to you and your family. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:05:57 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn and work and times get hectic, sorry. We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 years old as well. My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages?check out the rest of the Windows Live?. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty
This probably seems pretty obvious but--my Mandy (Felv) had diarrhea for months, all the time. After trying many things, my vet said use paregoric and the diarrhea stopped like magic and has not returned. - Original Message - From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty Debbie and Heather, Thanks for the reply. Maggie has had several(5-6)fecals done and one sent away to a lab as a feline diarrhea panel which cost $160 and checked for fungus, parasites, etc. All of which were normal. She has diarrhea more than she doesn't anymore. She was born in June and began having FELV symptoms in August. The diarrhea has been off and on since then. Do you know is the Fortiflora something you need to get at the vets or can I find it elsewhere? Again thanks for the advice ladies. Tanya Warner --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:32 AM Ditto that all, and, some Fortiflora might not be a bad idea. 2009/4/2 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com First off, I'd like to thank you for keeping this little one despite all of your other demands. Then, has your vet done any fecal testing? Maggie could possibly only need some antibiotic or antiparasitic... Other than that, the wonderful people here will tell you to feed her a good quality diet and keep her life as stress free as possible. Your kitten could conceiveably live a good, long life. Best of luck to you and your family. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:05:57 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice on 9 month old FELV + kitty I am sure you have covered this a thousand times but I haven't been on here all that long and am very far behind on reading the emails. I have a newborn and work and times get hectic, sorry. We adopted a kitten that after a neg test later turned out to be pos. We love her so we are keeping her. The clinics around us usually recommend euthanasia and don't have a ton of experience treating pos cats. We have a neg cat 12 years old as well. My problem is that Maggie goes through boughts of what I call horribly smelly Pancake batter poops. They are very watery and smell very foul. During these times she acts as though she is not feeling well ( I wouldn't either if that came out of my bottom). I would like to know what stuff seems to work best and what stuff to avoid. I asked my vet about interferon to build immune, she didn't seem very knowledgeable about it but prescribed it anyway. Seems like the diarrhea has been worse since she got on it and it is $40 plus shipping a month. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I hate seeing her miserable. Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEEDHELPFROM GREECE PLEASE
Marcel - All my 7 cats are ex-strays. The one who has leukemia (Mandy) is about 7 years and I have had her almost 2 years. I have continued to give my other 6 cats their regular shots yearly. No one has gotten sick. My vet says that there is very little danger that they will. I am very happy with my decision. (The english word is euthanasia.) In my opinion, to be used only when the cat is very sick and suffering. Pat - Original Message - From: Marcel Wallat marcelwal...@yahoo.gr To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 2 Positive FELV togehter with 1 Negative NEEDHELPFROM GREECE PLEASE Thanks for your answers, yes i must say i never thought about this illness. And i'm very sad too, because all my cats are ex strays, the girl and the old tomcat i have since they was baby and i've found them on the streets. And also the other i love very much which we have 1 year now. The docs here have ,ostly no plan from it, the most wanted to give the cats now the last injection (sorry dont know the english word) ___ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pluto
Wonderful news - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Pluto Hello all,I am happy to report that Pluto is back at Sids and feeling much better!! I brought his favorite treats(Temptations) on Monday but he was sick at the clinic so I didn't hand them out,so tonight he will have his treats!! I always hand out 2 or 3 bags of them.They ALL love Temptations.Thank you all for your good wishes!! :) Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability
I have had two cats who suffered from hypothyroidism...definitely accepted as a common disease of cats. - Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] R: PCR test reliability It has been too long since Ebony left this world. I can't remember the values. However, when he tested for hypothyroidism, it was believed that cats did not develop the condition. Luckily, my vets tend to go beyond the typical and ran the appropriate tests. Now it is pretty well accepted as a feline problem. Please don't let your vet brush the possibility off as not applicable to cats. On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Stefania wrote: Did he do blood work for thyroid problems? They had her blood tested and I have all values, such as iron, proteins, cholesterol etc... Is there anything more specific for thyroid? Stef Passa a Yahoo! Mail. La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, antispam e messenger integrato. http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7
My Mandy, now 7, was spayed four years ago--no problem at all as far as stress affecting her leukemia-positive status. She is still doing great today. - Original Message - From: Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7 Hi All, I have a FELV+ kitty, Maddie 3 yrs old who came as a stray to us in October 2008, she is strictly indoors now, she is on interferon, and she is eating well, gaining weight, playing, lovable, etc. She has not been spayed, My vet who wanted to put her to sleep in October just because she was positive, which of course I did not do, told me not to have her spayed it could stress her and she would die, another vet told me to have her spayed. I don't know what to do, looking at her you would never even know that she was sick. Any advice? I love her so much and I don't want to do anything that may harm her. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.
I do not know what age Mandy became leukemia-positive. I adopted her at age 6 and she was positive at that time. She has no symptoms so I am doing no treatments at this time. My 7 cats are all strictly indoor--the other 6 are vaccinated and interact with Mandy. In two years, no one has gotten sick. Mandy also has had a UTI so is strictly fed Prescription CD or ID, both wet and dry. She is a very small cat but eats like one twice her size. Mandy is 7 right now. From looking at her, you would not know she is ill. - Original Message - From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:01 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV. Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate! AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list
Received here. Best to you, too. - Original Message - From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] testing the list Hey all, Just testing the list since there's been no activity since Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re Benny
I find it the most help for my grief when I lose a kitty to find another one who needs me (unfortunately, that's not too hard to do). The only other thing that helps is the passage of time. Thank you April for taking such good care of Baby Ben. Pat - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Re Benny April.I'm so sorry you lost Baby Ben. Two days after Christmas I lost two FelV kittens who only lived to be 8 months old. It is SO hard and seems so unfair. You did so much to help Benny, and perhaps you now have room in your home and your heart to help another cat or kitten in need. We all deal with grief in our own way, but my way is to hug and kiss the kitties I still have. Lorrie On 01-15, April Martella wrote: I am sad to say that my baby Ben has gone home to be with the Lord at 2:53 a.m. on January 14, 2009. My heart is broken and I can't imagine this horrible pain ever subsiding. Thank you all for your help. Please add him to the CLS. This is a ruthless unfair disease and a horrible way for our babies to have to go. How do you deal with the extreme grief and sadness knowing you will never see or touch them again? I am so not good with things like this. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] For those who were interested in helping us help Tofu
Hi - Our organization would be glad to help out with $75. Unfortunately, the only way we are able to contribute is to write and mail a check. If someone will give us the information on how to make it out and the address to which to send it, we'll take care of that. Pat (All Creatures Are Truly Special, Inc.) - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] For those who were interested in helping us help Tofu Our little double combo pos girl, I have set up a Chipin for her. Thanks so much as always for all you do. http://rescuties.chipin.com/tofu -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Tofu - combo positive! http://rescuties.chipin.com/tofu Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed
It is Kitten Milk Replacement. Available in liquid (easier) or powder in PetSmart (and probably other similar stores). It is used when a mother cat cannot nurse her kittens. Cats love it. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed hate to sound dumb, but here goes - what is kmr? dorlis Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Chrisanything at all that she will eat. Have you tried Prescription Diet AD? I know that you have already tried baby food--but didn't say what flavor. I have found that ham or chicken works best. Sometimes I put some on my finger or on the tip of a small teaspoon and put it right in the cat's mouth--or I have even used a syringe to squirt a little into the cat's mouth. Hopefully a little start will get Bea interested in eating more. Wonder if she might like some KMR. - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed Bea had her dental surgery on Thursday and everything went well. She did have some blood in her urine after she came to and I'll be keeping an eye on that. Because of time and 4 teeth that gave the dr a hard time only the back teeth were extracted. I wish they could have all been done but safety first. Yesterday she seemed to eat okay. She was picky on what she wanted but she was eating. Today she doesn't really want to eat. I've tried just about everything I can think of - wet adult, wet kitten even baby food (no onion/tomato) but she's just not interested. She'll take a couple of licks and that's it. I know she must be in some discomfort even with the pain meds. but I'm not sure what else to try. I have been mixing everything with some water to make sure she's at least staying somewhat hydrated. As far as I know she hasn't taken a drink from the water bowl yet. Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I might get her to eat? I know she's hungry because she'll follow me into the kitchen and sit in front of where I prepare her food normally. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed
I agree with Chrisanything at all that she will eat. Have you tried Prescription Diet AD? I know that you have already tried baby food--but didn't say what flavor. I have found that ham or chicken works best. Sometimes I put some on my finger or on the tip of a small teaspoon and put it right in the cat's mouth--or I have even used a syringe to squirt a little into the cat's mouth. Hopefully a little start will get Bea interested in eating more. Wonder if she might like some KMR. - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed Bea had her dental surgery on Thursday and everything went well. She did have some blood in her urine after she came to and I'll be keeping an eye on that. Because of time and 4 teeth that gave the dr a hard time only the back teeth were extracted. I wish they could have all been done but safety first. Yesterday she seemed to eat okay. She was picky on what she wanted but she was eating. Today she doesn't really want to eat. I've tried just about everything I can think of - wet adult, wet kitten even baby food (no onion/tomato) but she's just not interested. She'll take a couple of licks and that's it. I know she must be in some discomfort even with the pain meds. but I'm not sure what else to try. I have been mixing everything with some water to make sure she's at least staying somewhat hydrated. As far as I know she hasn't taken a drink from the water bowl yet. Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I might get her to eat? I know she's hungry because she'll follow me into the kitchen and sit in front of where I prepare her food normally. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Hi Lisa - In my opinion you are doing the right thing. I have 7 cats; one, who I adopted in July 2007 at about age 5, is positive. My other cats are all adults. I discussed thoroughly with my vet, who said the vaccine is more than 90% effecttive and that it is very unlikely my healthy adult cats would be affected. So, a year and four months later--all are healthy. The positive cat has no symptoms, other than being deaf (which may or may not be caused by the leukemia). I am very glad that I did what I did. Mandy (the positive kitty) is the most wonderful, loving kitty I have ever had. Pat - Original Message - From: Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of germ killer before you come in the house. - Original Message - From: Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with human bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk for them. They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
I have a cat who had to have almost all her teeth to be extracted at one time. (She is NOT leukemia-positive.) She had no problems whatsoever. Came home the same evening (morning surgery) and started eating and has never stopped--she's 19 lbs.. She had no pain at all. - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed Yes, I should have added that--that my vet always gives painkillers after extractions. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed Coco has had most of her teeth removed (gradually ~ over 10 years) due to gingivitis. She needs annual cleanings. The vet feels her mouth is in good shape now and that she won't need more extractions. This sounds like a very extreme solution, though he IS a specialist. The pain after one extraction is bad. I can't imagine an entire mouth. A friend has a cat with stomatitis. She gives her some med the first 5 days of each month and this is working well. Good luck. A difficult dilemma. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New to group
I have seven catsone, Mandy, is positive. I adopted her in July 2007. I discussed with my long-time vet and we agreed that if all my other six cats (all over five years old) had their vaccinations up to date (he stated that the vaccine is 90+ percent effective), there was very little danger to them. So, 15 months have gone by and all are healthy--including Mandy, who is the absolute picture of health. I believe there is very little danger in mixing as long as kittens are not involved. Pat - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I have three positives and four negatives. They have all been together since April. I will have them re-tested before I vaccinate for Feline Leukemia again in March, but to my knowledge they are all still negative. I lost my sweet Tucker in May but my vet assured me he was still negative and the problems he had did not have anything to do with feline leukemia. Sue - Original Message - From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
I believe that mostly it is true that testing just one kitten would be enough. I have read that if kittens were fathered by different males (one who could have been infected and another who was negative), some could be positive and some negative. I have to think this must be rare, though. Others probably have more info to give you. - Original Message - From: Michelle Brockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
He's both my vet and my good friend--and has been for 10 years. I think he's the best (yes, slightly prejudiced). Pat - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine Sounds like you've got a good vet! t Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I adopted Mandy in July 2007 and found out the next day that she was leukemia-positive. My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was extremely small. At this time, Mandy is very healthy (just at vet today) and the other six are fine. They have mixed without restriction all of this time. Pat - Original Message - From: Lorrie To: Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine
I adopted Mandy in July 2007 and found out the next day that she was leukemia-positive. My vet said that the vaccine is 90+% effective and that the likelihood of my other six adult, healthy cats getting leukemia was extremely small. At this time, Mandy is very healthy (just at vet today) and the other six are fine. They have mixed without restriction all of this time. Pat - Original Message - From: Lorrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FelV Vaccine Sabrina, Thanks for your feedback on the FelV vaccine. Years ago when the vaccine first came out I heard it was not too effective, but I hoped it had improved. Has anyone else had experience with the vaccine to share with me? Lorrie On 09-19, Sabrina wrote: Hi Lorrie, Don't give up hope! I just posted a couple of days ago about the two kitties I rescued who were positive just were retested and are now negative!! Of course I don't know if what I did had anything to do with changing their status, but if you are interested in the diet I fed them and the supplements I gave them, contact me offlist. Furthermore, the FeLV vaccine doesn't have a terribly high efficacy even now. Someone on one of these lists said she worked in a cat clinic for a number of years and out of the 2000 or so cases of leukemia she saw, most of the ones who died had been vaccinated for the disease. Sabrina www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com www.LovingGraceRescue.org Orange County, CA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried.
My Mandy (Felv positive) is 6 years old and no bigger than a six-month old. When I adopted her in July 2007, she was too thin but now is just right as far as weight--but has never grown. She is very healthy but STILL eats like she thinks she'll never see another bit of food. She will grab the food we are eating right out of our handsbut is very sweet and calm in any other circumstance. Perhaps your new kitty has a upper respiratory infectionthe vet, of course, will be able to tell. My very best wishes to you. Pat - Original Message - From: Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] New kitty has arrived. Worried. I picked up the new FeLV+ kitty today and I am very worried about him. He is supposed to be close to two years old but he is the size of a kitten no older then 6 months. I can feel his bones as if he has been on the street starving. His eyes are a little gunky and his nose seems to be running. He eats like he has been starving and he drank an amazing amount of water. He just seems sickly. I am keeping him separated from my other cats just in case, and he will go to my vet as soon as I can get him an appointment. The other animals at this rescue seem very healthy, but I can't imagine why he is the way he is. Does anyone have any ideas? Could this be just another thing that happens to positive kitties? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing kittens
My vet feels that kittens should be at least 3 months in order to get results you can depend upon. - Original Message - From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] testing kittens Dixie Louise was grown when she came into my life. As you know, she left on June 12. On July 14 and 30 two young kittens (ferals) came into my life. Obviously I want to get them tested. The results make no difference in their futures. They will be indoor, cared for cats all their days. I do want to get them tested at some point. The question is how old should they be to get reliable results? I have never raised kittens. I was always able to find homes for them and I kept older cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens
Although many vets test sooner, my vet feels that you get the more accurate results if you wait until 3 months. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Felv Testing Interval for kittens Could someone remind me of the age when testing kittens for Felv is. I have some 8 week old kittens, Miss'Tache, Gilbert, Perry, and Eeyore, born to a feral queen, queen is untested. My rescue group wants to test them real soon. I also have former tom cat who has tested positive for Felv via a snap test, he is in a different room from the kittens and from my cats. As of right now he is not showing any symptoms. He is a sweetheart, I think he is a dumped cat left to fend for himself. Thanks Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
Sounds like a good plan.I hope it works out that you can have him. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost My husband and I have agreed that if he continues to hang around here for a bit longer my husband is going to put him in the back porch and call this guy we know who investigated the owner after we lost Boo. He has no sympathy for them whatsoever and would take the cat away. If he tests negative for Felv I will adopt him if that is an option. He has been neutered, something they had refused to do with Boo and with their female so maybe the field worker did impress them somewhat. Whether he has been vaccinated is another story. I could not subject Snowy to him if he were positive as much as I would love to have him. He isn't the sweetest of cats, the little buggar was rubbing his face all over mine then bit me on the hand, quite nastily I might add. He isn't as pretty as BooBoo but still is pretty darn cute. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost It seems to me that this little guy is at your place for a reason. He obviously needs help! Could you just take him to a vet and have his sores, matts, fleas taken care of--and have him tested. He may be negative. If it were me, I'd just have to know! So glad that Snowball is thrivingyou've done a wonderful job with her. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3296 (20080724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic
I was curious about the mention of wishing cats could take iron...so searched the web and found this: Some veterinarians recommend giving a cat iron supplements, not as a cure, but rather as a preventative to ensure the production of healthy red blood cells. Certain steroids can help in stimulating the appetite and there are also drugs that appear to stimulate the production of erythropoietin. It was part of an article on feline anemia written by a Donna Reynolds. Just thought it was interesting. - Original Message - From: Sue Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLV Talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic Buzz has a red blood count of 8, the vet says it should be 30. She gave him a steriod shot. She says we could choose to give him a transfusion but that would only be a temporary fix and very expensive. He also has a bad heart murmer. Right now I am just trying to by time to look into optiions. I am very much against making a cat go through a lot of painful procedures just to buy a month or two. They just don't understand why you are doing it to them. Why can't cats take iron pills like anemic humans do? So many questions... Thanks, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost
It seems to me that this little guy is at your place for a reason. He obviously needs help! Could you just take him to a vet and have his sores, matts, fleas taken care of--and have him tested. He may be negative. If it were me, I'd just have to know! So glad that Snowball is thrivingyou've done a wonderful job with her. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died after owning him for only a month. It was without a doubt the most tragic thing I have ever been through in my life.. Not long after that we got a rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months because she was so ill. She has feline herpes virus, not active and is absolutely thriving now. Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there? BooBoo's son. I don't know if he is Felv positive or not. Just as BooBoo was, he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas. I feel like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again. If I knew he was not positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would never see him again. Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around. The owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him up. I just don't know what to do. I could never subject Snowball to any harm, not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see this little guy suffer either. If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a rescue would take him. I simply could not afford the emotional and financial devestation we experienced watching BooBoo die. I'm totally confused right now. Lynne -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie
I'm in GA, too. Maybe it's Erie, PA. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near Erie Someone on another list is looking for an inexpensive vet so that he can take in a stray he has found living outside his house in Erie. He just lost a cat to crf and took in 2 new cats from the shelter and can't afford a lot to help this new Tom who just showed up. Anyone familiar with the area? I'm in GA and have no clue where Erie even is except I suspect it's near Lake Erie. lol. t -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
I completely agreeI have had three cats over the years who had this disease. And many people I know have also had cats who suffered from it. Can't imagine a vet not knowing. - Original Message - From: Sharyl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet. Here is a link to more info. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds. Some will be candidates for radiotherapy. Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF after the thyroid issues are resolved. Hyper T tends to hide CRF. Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen... Debbie (COL) You gotta bloom where you're planted! -- Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight. Everyone here has been so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was leaving for a week's vacation). I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as soon as I got back. That's what it was. The vet detected a heart murmer as well. He is an estimated 18 years old. He had a fever and the vet put him on some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course. Problem. He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down him. I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides. Should I stress him out with the chase down? Crate him for a while? He doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on Monday. We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better. Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice? I am quickly losing my mind. la la la la. t -- Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :(
I am so sorry about Smokey. Please don't feel bad--he knew how much you cared for him. I agree that you will find the right kitty for you among those who are most in need. And that feels good. Pat - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Melina Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to have to write this. We lost our sweet little Smokey cat. When I took him to my vet before we left on vacation she told us that the sores in his mouth were caused from the virus and that he was suffering. She said there wasn't anything that could be done. I just couldn't believe it because I really thought he was doing so much better and that the sores were from herpes, which I explained to her. She said no, sometimes these sores are caused from the decease and that he was in great pain. Every time I think about the times that I cleaned his little mouth it breaks my heart because I now know how much I was hurting him. I was as gentle as I could be but I thought I needed to keep the sores doctored and I really didn't realize how much pain he was in. Stupid me, I thought I was helping him and that he was getting better. After some time goes by, I plan on going to a rescue facility and adopting a cat. I will try to get a little cat that has been passed by, maybe a little older one, I don't really know, I figure I will know when I see him/her. Thank you for all the information and support. You all were a great source of information and support. Sincerely, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 7:07 am Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( Kathryn, you can buy it as a pill from a drug store and maybe in a capsule. I started with 500 mg caplets and they were tough to crush. I ended up buying the powder from iHerbs. http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1st=lkw=L-Lysine Much easier to work with. I dissolve it in a little water, mix with food and feed it to mine. Sharyl --- On Tue, 7/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:12 PM It occurred to me last night that I did not take the time to properly say my condolences for the lost kittys such as Melina. It saddens me whenever a little animal leaves us and my thoughts are sincerely with their owners. I've been kind of preoccupied with Smokey. I really understand how these guys can effect you, I think it's because they are so innocent and, like Smokey, are so trusting. Every time I go to pet him, which is a lot, he purrs, even though he's not feeling great. I will be gone for six days on a previously planned vacation, (bad timing, I know). However, he will be staying with my vet, I'm really hoping that she can get his ulcers cleared up. I absolutely will get him on lysine. Just one more question if you all don't mind: Do I get it in liquid form or is it a powder? I'll email when I return to give an update. Can you send pictures on this site? If so and if it's appropriate, I can send a picture of Smokey. Thanks, again, Kathryn -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 8:10 pm Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( Wendy I am doing ok.Thanks for your concern.I really had the urge NOT to go to Sids tonight.But my heart dragged me there as usual.Not the same without Melina there.She was the first one I would look for and then I would carry her around and do the cat check head count.I fell for that baby girl the second I laid eyes on her. Also keep Jaws in your prayers,he is not doing so well.Another one that wins over your heart as soon as you meet him. Thanks so much, Sherry --- On Mon, 7/7/08, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Melina Please add to the CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:47 AM Sherry, How are you today? I hope you're doing better. I'm sorry about Melina. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New server?
I'd be glad to help, too - if that's what needed. Pat - Original Message - From: Sharyl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Re: New server? I'd be willing too. Another idea might be to move the talk portion of the site to Yahoo Groups. Don't know how that would impact the archives. And Yahoo groups occasionally has problems as well. Sharyl --- On Fri, 7/4/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New server? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 4:26 PM me Sky Danncer (Davy S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of us are there to divide the cost? Davy - Original Message - From: Sue Koren To: FeLV Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: New server? Hello everyone - I went to the archives today and found that I am only getting about half of the messages. Earlier this month it was suggested that we all chip in if a new server is needed. The support of this group has meant a great deal to me and I would be very happy to help in some way. Is it feasible to make this new server idea happen? Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hobbs, May 4, 2008
My experience with leukemia positive kittens has been that they do not live more than two or three months. Hobbs' much longer life is no doubt due to the love and great care by those who touched him after he was rescued. You should all be proud of what you did for him. My condolences to all who loved him... - Original Message - From: Heather Wienker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Hobbs, May 4, 2008 Thank you everyone, for your kind thoughts. Hobbs was just over a year old, they were about 6 weeks old when we found them mid-April of 2007. I am wondering what others' experiences have been with kittens born with leukemia, and how long they have lived. Thank you all for your prayers for Sissy and Jann as well--they sure need them right now. Wishing peace to our sweet boy, I am so thankful that he did have the happy life unlimited love that he did. Heather
Re: Introducing Sissy and Rocket
Does Spay USA have a branch in your state? In Georgia (Spay Georgia), one can purchase certificates which allow a huge discount at participating vets. They send a list of those vets when they send your certificates. - Original Message - From: Sharyl To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Introducing Sissy and Rocket Thanks Gloria. So far it looks like the best I'm going to be able to do on the neutering is $100. There is a chance the Tidewater SPCA Neuter Scooter will come over to the Eastern Shore and I could save $25. I can afford to care for the 2 I have rescued. I'll have to work on colony one cat at a time as my budget allows. I am trying to recruit local sponsors to help with the cost. Local SPCA doesn't believe in TNR for ferals. I just don't want to have to tell the vet anything when I bring in a colony kitty. Sharyl Sissy and Rocket Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's wonderful that you're doing this. Would be nice if you could find a low-cost spay neuter clinic, or a free service, to help fund the neutering. RE your question about telling the vet, I don't know. If 2 are positive, still doesn't mean all the others are, although of course there's a chance. Any vet should be aware that if the kitty hasn't been tested, there's a potential for FELV or FIV. Neutering is the key to preventing the spread of this, as I understand. Least my take on it. Hope you find a good option for low cost or free neutering. Gloria On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Sharyl wrote: I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old. On their 1st vet visit both tested FeLV+. I will have both retested the end of April to see if they are still positive. I have them quarantined in my garage. They are eating Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and DMG. So far they are responding well and seem very healthy. Both have had their kitten shots and been wormed. If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an enclosure onto the garage for them. I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so am concerned about bringing them into the house. My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. I can not take all of them in. My plan had been to TNR the colony (trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if these 2 stay positive. I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered if they are positive. And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized. That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it. Is there any info on how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony? Any advise on how to get them neutered? Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them neutered? Sharyl Sissy and Rocket ES of VA -- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Re: I really need some advice
Mixing has worked for me as long as the negative cat is up to date on felv vaccine. My vet says the vac is 90+ % effective and, if the other cat or cats are healthy, he sees very little reason for worry. - Original Message - From: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: I really need some advice What a difficult situation, my heart goes out to you. When I got my Calawalla, she was 6 months old, a pretty little calico girl kitten, just off the street. I couldnt' believe she would ever die, but she did at about 3 yrs old. I kind of feel like if they make it past 3, they're gonna be ok, but just my experience. I did keep Calawalla isolated from the others, meticulously, for about 6 months. Then I did decide to mix Calawalla with my other non-FELV cats, and it worked out fine for me. They had been vaccinated, but I think a healthy adult immune system does a lot whether they're vacc'd or not. I added another FELV cat to the mix, and they were all great buddies. I really don't think it's as contagious as we hear. I have a friend who also acquired a kitty that tested positive - she uses interferon alpha daily, and mixes with another non-FELV cat, and works for her. She's made it past the 3 year mark, and everyone's doing fine. Not saying that you should necessarily do this,something to consider - and others here don't do that, but several of us do and find it works. If you choose to find another home for your sweet kitty, I'm sure in that Michigan area where you live, or NJ/PA, that you can find someone to take and love Binxy. Best of luck and hope this gives you help in some way. Gloria On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV. I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her-- not spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people want kittens. She is really cute. Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer. I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as difficult. Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats at risk. If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue group and tested before they even came through my door. Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public. If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit- Metro in Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey, I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her along. I am so hoping that
Re: Snowball
Lynne - thank you for sending her picture. She is a beauty. My Persian had to have her face washed regularly, too--you're right, Persian eyes. I am so very glad you all have found each other. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: Snowball Here is Snowball. As you can see she requires high maintenance. We need to wash her face and eyes at least twice a day. Nothing wrong with them, just persian eyes. Lynne Your files are attached and ready to send with this message.
Re: ournewbaby
Lynne - I am so delighted to hear that Ms. Snowy is home where she belongs. BooBoo is so proud of you for taking in another kitty who needed help. Snowy will help heal the pain left from BooBoo's leaving. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: ournewbaby We met the foster mom of the cat we adopted at the vets this morning and now have our new little girl home. She was a rescued cat from this horrible shop owner in town. I was expecting to meet a kind of pathetic looking little kitty but to our surprise, she's a 9 pound gorgeous white persian with amber colored eyes. She's absolutely beautiful but for the moment prefers to be upstairs on her own. We're not forcing ourselves on her but the foster mom says she is very affectionate and loves attention. She inspected every inch of the house and will come down when she wants to. We are just so happy to finally have her here. She has never had a real home, just a pet store and the foster mom. Lynne
Re: newgirlexpected
Lynne - I could not be happier to hear about Snowball. I have always found great joy whenever I have adopted a new kitty--for whatever reason. So, I too feel she will bring much happiness to your family. Congratulations!!! PS - I have only had one purebred Persian - Priscilla, who was born on the 4th of July 1990 and left us 16 years later. She, like many Persians did have eyes which needed to be cleaned often. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: newgirlexpected Thank you Laurie. I am not one hundred percent certain that Snowball was diagnosed with Herpes but this is what the general opinion is and considering her living conditions prior to the foster mom's getting her, it is most likely what she has. I guess I'll know more when I get the vet reports and her immunization records. She's healthy now but needs her eyes cleaned daily. Apparently some persians have this issue with runny eyes??? It only made sense to me that she should not be spayed so soon after we get her. People with herpes virus have the same problem of stress triggering outbreaks. Thank heavens you didn't have your Isabella spayed. I will definitely get some rescue remedy and some lysine(?). Laurie I was on the herpes group but got so angry at this guy who is breeding cats with herpes virus in some attempt to irradicate the virus that I left. It was becoming seriously argumentative and emotionally I am just not up to fighting these days. I do have some guilt about what happened to BooBoo. I am just so sorry we neutered him, but the vet said he was healthy enough to handle it. I would never place blame on anyone, except for the criminals who sold him to us, but if only I knew then what I know now things may have been different. His blood work was bleak. He was a very ill little guy but still, who knows how it may have turned out. Extremely hard lesson to learn. Snowball will never replace BooBoo or our wonderful Chuck or Lennie, who doesn't appear to be leaving any time too soon but I think she will bring some much needed joy into this house. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:37 PM Subject: Re: newgirlexpected May I be the first to say.Congratulations! I can feel your joy! I am glad you decided to wait on the spay. I have had that same thought about Booboo but didn't want to say it...we waited to spay Isabella (FeLV+), too. Eventually (via abdominal ultrasound performed because of then health issues ~ she is healthy now!) we learned she had hemaclips which meant she was already spayed. Each time we took her to be spayed she was sick ...what a blessing in disguise! Winston (probable herpes) outbreaks when he goes to the vet. Using rescue remedy, rubbed inside his ears, has helped tremendously. You have good gut instincts, Lynn. I am glad they are cooperating with you!! Happy Day! Consider joining the herpes yahoo group if you haven't already. I will see you there from time to time! Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: newgirlexpected I got the email I've been waiting for today. I have been trying to adopt this adorable little rescued cat, persian, for a couple weeks now. I have missed BooBoo so much and have been through such emotional garbage with the previous owners of him that I just need another cat to give a good life to. This cat was rescued from a horrible person who had a pet shop in town. The humane society and SPCA went in and seized his animals and the City took his business licence away. This cat, (Snowball) was so sick, eyes swollen shut from infection, URI and it has taken the foster woman a month to get her well. She got final approval from the vet to be let go, has got her shots updated and that's that. She had been disgnosed with herpes. I know, I'm getting myself into another potential situation here, but at least I know what I have to deal with if an outbreak occurs. The vet was going to have her spayed before releasing her but I convinced him that I would do it in the near future once she has settled down in her new home. I wish I had never had BooBoo neutered so quickly after getting him. I truly believe it triggered his rapid downfall. Anyway, I now have the foster mom's personal email and we are going to start the process of her coming to me. I am just so happy to be able to look after another little lost soul. Lynne
Re: Belinda....interested?mThanking the Monkey need web help 3/9/08
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Re: Herpes virus
I am not sure about the ratio question--since I mix it with canned food. However, I purchase it at Whole Foods--but have seen it at most regular drug stores, too. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Herpes virus Hi -- Could you give me a ratio of how much l-lysine added to how much water? And is it readily available in powdered form, and from where? Thank you so much! Diane - Original Message - From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:46:11 PM (GMT-0500) America/Bogota Subject: Re: Herpes virus l-lysine is a wondrous thing. tricks the herpes virus into not replicating, for some still-to-be-determined reasons. there is ongoing research to find out how and why, and the EXACT dosage to use in cats; many multi-cat facilities use is prophylatically (um, haven't had caffeine yet, is that spelled correctly?)--it's quite inexpensive when bought in the powdered form and we just added it to the water at the sanctuary. we saw a marked difference in both eye problems and the snifflies. one of the california vet associations years back said that all cats should be on it; and it's about the only thing i've ever come across that MDs, DOs, DVMs, and holistic practitioners all agree upon. On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've been exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few. I use Lysine orally - I start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of water) via syringe twice a day. And of course clean the eyes. If they have Herpes, it starts showing improvement within a few days, in my experience. At some point I cut back to 250 MG twice daily, and eventually stop. Lysine is what's used on humans who have Herpes mouth sores (but think that's a different strain of Herpes). I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon alpha. Some have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never used it that way. My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start getting healthy, they seem to do fine. It's not nearly what FELV is. I'd certainly encourage you to go for it. Gloria On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote: Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes virus in cats. There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up. They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her. Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate treatment will have to be given. She is being spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon. I said I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo. She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian in her. She has that same flat little face that Boo did. Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia. I haven't even told my husband yet. I just blurted out that I would take her. I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway. Lynne -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Herpes virus
Lynne - I have direct experience with a cat with herpes eye problems. It was a long time ago but I adopted a lovely white young cat (not kitten) and shortly thereafter her eyes looked bad. After going to regular vet, I was referred to a kitty ophthamologist who told me Katie would have to have two types of eye drops 3x per day for 8 weeks. She also said that flare-ups were less likely as the cat got older. After those 8 weeks (which were not fun), Katie's eyes were fine. She never had another flare-up and lived to be 16 years old. My vote is go for it. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: Herpes virus Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes virus in cats. There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up. They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her. Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate treatment will have to be given. She is being spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon. I said I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo. She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian in her. She has that same flat little face that Boo did. Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia. I haven't even told my husband yet. I just blurted out that I would take her. I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway. Lynne
Re: BooBoo left us
Dear Lynne - I am so very sorry that BooBoo had to leave. You and Bob are the most wonderful people and it was somehow meant that BooBoo would come to you for happiness in his last days. He is well and happy now and I know that doesn't really help at this time--but time passing will dull the pain and accentuate the happy. And, remembering him and how much good you did for him. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: BooBoo left us We lost our precious baby tonight. He developed difficulty breathing and we rushed him to the emergency clinic. He was dehydrated and had just had his lungs aspirated Friday. The vet recently experienced the same situation with his Himilayan, co-incidentally, though I sometimes think they make stuff up to identify with your pain. I held his little face in my hand and petted him as did Bob and he slipped away almost immediately. I don't think I've cried this much in my life, Bob too. At this moment I can't imagine ever being happy again. Sounds stupid but BooBoo conveyed to me this evening it was time to go and he thanked us. He was so very weak he could hardly walk but he was still purring as we pet him even with the damn catheter in. We know this was best for him but the worst for us. Thank you all for being so very supportive. Lynne
Re: FeLV Vaccination
My vet says the vaccine is 90+% effective. My 6 negatives were vaccinated and all are over 5 years old. My vet and I agreed that mixing my one positve with the others had very little risk. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:12 AM Subject: Re: FeLV Vaccination I would vaccinate my negatives, wait the 2-3 weeks necessary and booster them, wait 2-3 weeks more and let them mix. All this IF the other cats are over a year old. That has always been my protocol and I've never had a negative cat 'catch' the leukemia from my positive. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living in with FeLV - cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected. I am trying to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his room. My vet is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80% effective. The vet does not seem to be up on all that is going on with FeLV, though, and I am considering switching vets. Buzz really doesn't,t mind his room, but he is a social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be alone. I visit him as often as I can and spend at least an hour or so in the evenings in with him, but such minor details as a full time job and the rest of my human and cat family keep me away from being with him as much as he and I would like. It seems as if vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz from his prison room is the best solution, but not if any of the others end up being infected. Their ages range from 2 to 8 years. Two of them, Charlie and Tucker have other health problems and I don't know if that would put them more at risk. Anyway, has anyone ever heard of a vaccinated cat being infected?
Re: more bad news
I agree with you completely.I wouldn't change anything you are doing. BooBoo is happy; that's the main thing. And I would NEVER say that I would not have wanted to have Priscilla and Pixie in my life, even though it was for far too short a time. BTW - I did not know they were sick at all for quite some time after I had them (one was more than 20 years ago) so they were mixed with all my other cats at the times I had them. Fortunately, no one else got sick. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: more bad news I've been doing a lot of reading tonight Pat and it would appear that a diagnosis of FIP is one of those differential diagnoses, the vet goes by a collection of symptoms and makes the call. I'm wondering at this point if it even matters. I don't plan to change the way we're doing things or go looking for some snake oil treatment. I'm just gonna concentrate on diet, quiet and happiness. I now have an inkling of what you good people have gone through and somehow there must be something good come out of this experience. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Re: more bad news I'm so sorry Lynne. I have had two kitties who died of FIP (one had leukemia, too). The difference in what you describe about BooBoo is that the fluid was strictly in their abdomens--not connected with their lungs at all. My vet says that there are two types of FIP--dry and wet. The wet, which mine both had, results in so much fluid in the abdomen that the cat looks pregnant. My kitties enjoyed their lives until it became obvious they no longer did--and I had them put down. My vet said at the time that while he was sure they had FIP, there was no test that proved it for sure. Only necropsy. Enjoy BooBoo as long as you canI do hope you take some type of legal action against those horrible people. They should never be allowed to have any kind of animal!! - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: more bad news I don't know Kelly. He sent it off to a lab and specifically tested for it along with culturing the fluid. I have to assume if he tested positive and all the symptoms he has are those of an infected animal that he has it. Don't I wish there could have been an error but I'm at the point where I have to accept where this is going. I just want to keep him unstressed and comfortable. Unless there is some miracle drug that can repair all his blood vessels I'm screwed. Lynne - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: more bad news Wait, wait. What test did the vet use to test for FIP? There *is* an FIP test which is fairly accurate, but most vets don't even know about it. It is called Rivalta's test: This is a test with which few veterinarians are familiar but it can be very helpful in the diagnosis of FIP. A test tube is filled with distilled water and one drop of 98% acetic acid is added. To this mixture one drop of effusion is added. If the drop dissipates, the test is negative. If the drop retains its shape, the test is positive. A negative Rivalta's test is 97% accurate in ruling out FIP. A positive test is 86% accurate in ruling in FIP. Source: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html If you are talking about a titer test - almost all cats will test positive for coronavirus titers. On 2/27/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does. BooBoo's cytology came back today and he has FIP as well as feline leukemia. There was no bacteria in it. There is nothing left for us to do for him. There was no bacteria in the culture, just protein and fibres, because his blood vessels are leaky. The vet says all we can do is make him comfortable and at this point it is all about quality of life. He will continue to drain his lungs every week to 10 days and keep him on this antibiotic until it is finished and only Lasix once a day, which I guess does nothing for this lung fluid. If he becomes worse, ie he has to have the fluid drained more frequently then we will have to do the obvious. We will put on a good face for our dear boy and do everything we can to keep him with us as long as we can but it isn't looking too good at the moment. The vet said they had another cat in this week that tested positive for FIP but not leukemia. He said BooBoo has been hit with a double blow and unfortunately the end is near. I don't know
Re: more bad news
I'm so sorry Lynne. I have had two kitties who died of FIP (one had leukemia, too). The difference in what you describe about BooBoo is that the fluid was strictly in their abdomens--not connected with their lungs at all. My vet says that there are two types of FIP--dry and wet. The wet, which mine both had, results in so much fluid in the abdomen that the cat looks pregnant. My kitties enjoyed their lives until it became obvious they no longer did--and I had them put down. My vet said at the time that while he was sure they had FIP, there was no test that proved it for sure. Only necropsy. Enjoy BooBoo as long as you canI do hope you take some type of legal action against those horrible people. They should never be allowed to have any kind of animal!! - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: more bad news I don't know Kelly. He sent it off to a lab and specifically tested for it along with culturing the fluid. I have to assume if he tested positive and all the symptoms he has are those of an infected animal that he has it. Don't I wish there could have been an error but I'm at the point where I have to accept where this is going. I just want to keep him unstressed and comfortable. Unless there is some miracle drug that can repair all his blood vessels I'm screwed. Lynne - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: more bad news Wait, wait. What test did the vet use to test for FIP? There *is* an FIP test which is fairly accurate, but most vets don't even know about it. It is called Rivalta's test: This is a test with which few veterinarians are familiar but it can be very helpful in the diagnosis of FIP. A test tube is filled with distilled water and one drop of 98% acetic acid is added. To this mixture one drop of effusion is added. If the drop dissipates, the test is negative. If the drop retains its shape, the test is positive. A negative Rivalta's test is 97% accurate in ruling out FIP. A positive test is 86% accurate in ruling in FIP. Source: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html If you are talking about a titer test - almost all cats will test positive for coronavirus titers. On 2/27/08, Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well just when you think it can't get any worse it does. BooBoo's cytology came back today and he has FIP as well as feline leukemia. There was no bacteria in it. There is nothing left for us to do for him. There was no bacteria in the culture, just protein and fibres, because his blood vessels are leaky. The vet says all we can do is make him comfortable and at this point it is all about quality of life. He will continue to drain his lungs every week to 10 days and keep him on this antibiotic until it is finished and only Lasix once a day, which I guess does nothing for this lung fluid. If he becomes worse, ie he has to have the fluid drained more frequently then we will have to do the obvious. We will put on a good face for our dear boy and do everything we can to keep him with us as long as we can but it isn't looking too good at the moment. The vet said they had another cat in this week that tested positive for FIP but not leukemia. He said BooBoo has been hit with a double blow and unfortunately the end is near. I don't know if the Factor stuff will make it here before Boo dies but I'm trying to be realistic here now and face the inevitable. My husband and I are horribly sad about this but I'm getting angry now at these criminals who owned him and lied to me about his being healthy and vaccinated. We have several top notch lawyers in our practice who like me a lot and would do me a favor if I asked. I'm seriously considering consulting with one of them when this tragedy is over. Lynne -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
My Mandy is also on nothing but Wellness food and lysine. My vet's opinion is not to start immunoregulin until there is an actually reason (symptom) to do so. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Immuno-Regullin and exercise It's a good thing that he's active and playful. I personally would not start immunoregulin until there was reason to. My positive cat is on nothing now, besides premium food and lysine. tonya Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin? When they still have no symptoms? I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease. He seems so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite. How often do the success stories like Minstrels come along? These postings have so much new information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that it is hard to know what to think. I just know the little guy cleaning himself in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him. Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes. Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger? I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant. I am so glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive. Thank you everybody for all your advise.
Re: BooBoo today
Sorry very happy to hear the good news, Lynne. BooBoo is remarkable--and you are, too. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: BooBoo today Well, BooBoo is still with us for the time being anyway. My husband took him in this morning with the instructions to help him, not destroy him so the vet removed 16 ml of fluid from his chest and sent him home with a prescription for Lasix. Bob said he saw his xray and his organs were obscured by the fluid. The vet said we'd know better by the end of the week how well it is working. He's also scheduled to go back next Tuesday for further aspiration if it is necessary. The vet told my husband he knew I didn't want to let him go but told Bob he was at the end stage. Bob tells me BooBoo has filled the litter box with pee this afternoon after the dose of Lasix so I'm hopeful and his breathing has definitely improved. When they got home Bob took him up to bed, came downstairs and there was BooBoo following behind. He then tore into the stairs before boinging up to bed. This from a little guy who was at death's door early this morning. The vet is going to get back to us with the analysis of the fluid. I don't know what difference that will make. My boss is away tomorrow so I am taking the day off to spend with my boys. I don't want to become too optimistic but today is definitely better than yesterday. Lynne
Re: BooBoo today
740 area code is columbus, ohio - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo today I will call Karenn Laurie. I don't know where she is time wise but will take a chance it's similar to me. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo today So glad to hear this. The fluid probably explains the breathing problems. I would strongly recommend calling Karen. She may not check the list again today and you may want to visit with her today?? I am happy to hear that Booboo is still with you and exhibiting some of his previous behaviors! L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: BooBoo today Well, BooBoo is still with us for the time being anyway. My husband took him in this morning with the instructions to help him, not destroy him so the vet removed 16 ml of fluid from his chest and sent him home with a prescription for Lasix. Bob said he saw his xray and his organs were obscured by the fluid. The vet said we'd know better by the end of the week how well it is working. He's also scheduled to go back next Tuesday for further aspiration if it is necessary. The vet told my husband he knew I didn't want to let him go but told Bob he was at the end stage. Bob tells me BooBoo has filled the litter box with pee this afternoon after the dose of Lasix so I'm hopeful and his breathing has definitely improved. When they got home Bob took him up to bed, came downstairs and there was BooBoo following behind. He then tore into the stairs before boinging up to bed. This from a little guy who was at death's door early this morning. The vet is going to get back to us with the analysis of the fluid. I don't know what difference that will make. My boss is away tomorrow so I am taking the day off to spend with my boys. I don't want to become too optimistic but today is definitely better than yesterday. Lynne
Re: CLS
Lynne - the vet (NOT my regular one) who I took Mandy to when I first got her to have her tested told me that leukemia positive cats live only about 6 months after diagnosis. Well, Mandy is 6+ years old and who knows how long she has had the virus. I've had her for more than six months myself--and she is thriving. When I saw my regular vet, he said the other vet was nuts. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: CLS I am taking all this advice to heart. Thank you Marilyn. Lynne - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CLS I'll let others address your specific questions but I'll put my two cents worth in. Look at homeopathic/alternative/complemtary vets, especially if conventional vets are not meeting your needs. Enjoy the time you have together. If you spend it thinking about the possible future you will miss the wonderful present...and the future may or may not be as you imagine it. We all start dying the minute we are born. We fear death but our friends do not. They live in the minute and that is what you need to do too. I had a perfectly wonderful and apparently very healthy cat leave this world with cancer. My little FeLV + girl has been with me 3 wonderful years and is apparently perfectly healthy. We never know what will take us from this world or when. Please spend wonderful time with BooBoo.time enjoying him and listening to him. Tell him of your fears if that will help you verbalize them and deal with them. Good luck and all the blessings of all the universes to you and Boo. Don't waste the present. On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Lynne wrote: I'm sorry for not being knowledgeable of this, but what is CLS and the bridge you folks refer to? I've been busy trying to find some ray of hope for my BooBoo. I showed his blood work to the doc next door at work, who is a dog lover, not a cat but he interpreted it as being pretty bad. He said he has no platelets. He then got on the phone to a Vet friend who takes care of his dogs and gave him a brief history of Boo and his blood work. The vet said there was nothing I could do about the situation and that most cats after being diagnosed lived for 2 years at a max. I don't even know when BooBoo contracted the disease so who knows how long he has. This vet though kept saying, it doesn't mean he's going to die, whatever the H that means. I also have a pharmacist friend who is meeting with a vet friend of his in Detroit tomorrow and he too is running Boo's history by him to see if there is anything at all to help him. Apparently Immuno Regulin is not available here in Canada so he's going to talk to this man about it tomorrow. People have been very kind and honest but I just am finding this impossible to accept. I can't wait to get home from work to see him and almost start bawling when I am with him. I totally hate this. I just hope he isn't feeling any pain. He mostly sleeps but does purr a lot and seems to love having us around him. I just don't know what else to do. Lynne
Re: BooBoo is home!!
I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
Re: BooBoo is home!!
Sounds like you need some time to digest all these suggestions.keep us up to date on BooBoo. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Ah, my Chuck used to sleep on my chest. Lennie, our present geriatric cat has become much more affectionate toward me since Boo has come. Len is a guys cat, has always been my husband's boy and when our son was at home, his boy. Now he actually wants to sleep on my lap. He still weighs 12 lbs but was a much heftier guy a couple years ago. BooBoo is supposedly the runt of his litter but weighs 9 lbs 4 oz so he's a good size. I'm going to try to sort out all the suggestions regarding feeding and give them the same diet. I think I will get some liver and beef and see if BooBoo will eat that as well as his regular food and tuna. I think he should have more iron in his diet. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Mandy is also a little pig catshe is absolutely tiny (about 5 lbs.) but she eats constantly--and will eat just about anything. She, like your Chuck, prefers chicken--so I buy the Wellness chicken canned food. She is deaf but I swear somehow she knows when the refrigerator door opens--'cause she's right there. I believe she would jump inside if I didn't watch closely. And if there is ANY kind of chicken nearby she does her wild animal act and grabs/growls. She is really a fun kitty. I got her from a shelter for my birthday last July--and I fell in love immediately. She sleeps on top of me each night (taking several breaks to visit the food dish). Love to you and BooBoo. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
Re: BooBoo is home!!
Mandy is also a little pig catshe is absolutely tiny (about 5 lbs.) but she eats constantly--and will eat just about anything. She, like your Chuck, prefers chicken--so I buy the Wellness chicken canned food. She is deaf but I swear somehow she knows when the refrigerator door opens--'cause she's right there. I believe she would jump inside if I didn't watch closely. And if there is ANY kind of chicken nearby she does her wild animal act and grabs/growls. She is really a fun kitty. I got her from a shelter for my birthday last July--and I fell in love immediately. She sleeps on top of me each night (taking several breaks to visit the food dish). Love to you and BooBoo. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! Pat, BooBoo is a little pig cat. He would eat all day long if we'd feed him. He's eaten a whole can of tuna since he got home from the vet as well as some hard food and is still wanting more. Tuna in spring water seems to be his favorite. He also likes a bit of sardines for snack. I bought him a really good dry and canned food at the vets but he only seems to like the hard stuff. You know, our first cat, Chuck, who lived to 19 was a very finicky eater. Actually his favorite foods were chicken and steak. He also ate some hard crunchies but that cat loved chicken more than anything. We used to buy a bunch of friers and bake them and make up a bunch of meals in bags for him. If we ate beef, he got beef. It couldn't have been too harmful because he lived a long and healthy life. Lynne - Original Message - From: Pat Kachur To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:08 PM Subject: Re: BooBoo is home!! I join the chorus of don't be depressed and don't give up. I agree with just about everything the others have said. It can't be stressed too much that BooBoo needs to eat and keep eating. My Mandy gets Wellness brand food from Whole Foods and she is 6+ years old and still no symptoms other than being deaf (which may or may not be related to the leukemia virus). I hope you and BooBoo enjoy yourselves for many years. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: BooBoo is home!! BooBoo just came home from his neutering. He had no trouble whatsoever with the anesthesia, has eaten, had a drink and can't stop purring. He's really happy to be home. The vet went over his blood work with us and told us it didn't look good. He's already anemic. I was so hoping for some good news. He's checking into some drugs for the future if needed and we choose to go that route. He said they are very expensive. This whole experience has sucked the life out of me. I look at this precious little guy and he has absolutely no signs of a disease yet I know he does. I am so angry with his previous owners right now. They emailed me last week when I told them the news and they pretty much suggested that we gave him this disease because he was always healthy and happy. This coming from a family who never took him to a vet. He was a mess when we got him, totally matted, fleas and a terrible case of earmites. Now he's beautifully groomed, clean and seemingly overjoyed at being here. This all so totally new to me. We've never had a pet with an illness, let alone something like this. I swear I'm becomming depressed. I'm not gonna let BooBoo know it though. Lynne
Re: Sweet Buzz / Tucker
My cat Calpurrnia had to have all her teeth removed several months ago as they were terribly infected. She is NOT leukemia positive so this may not pertain to a cat who is. However, my vet had me give her 25 mg twice a day of ClindaCure (Clindamycin Hydrochloride Oral Liquid) for two weeks prior to surgery. She came thru beautifully and is still doing great. - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Sweet Buzz / Tucker Sue, May I ask you about your cat Tucker and having to have all his teeth removed. My Bea is FeLV + I've been battling the same thing as Tucker - because of her FeLV status, she can't fight the bacteria on her teeth. I've been doing almost monthly courses of Clavamox/Prednisone. I've been brushing her teeth but that doesn't seem to be helping much. My vet suggested as a last resort full extraction. Did you do any meds prior to the extraction? or have any advice/suggestions? On a side note about Buzz and keeping him in a room by himself. I adopted Bea 4 months ago and after spending 4 days with my other 2 cats we found out she was +. I struggled with keeping her in a room by herself or finding her a home where she could be free to roam. I did look some but in the end I knew she was best right where she was. She already knew me, had a routine and I already loved her. So now she lives in our spare bedroom (with all the amenities) which we put a cheap wooden screen door on so she can see and hear everything that is going on in our house. I do let her out of the room everyday for an hour or so with surpervised visits, although I am not suggesting mixing + -'s it's just a personal decision I made. Dawn , : Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sweet Buzz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you for your advise about Buzz, and I am so very sorry about your Brumley. What an aching empty place they leave in your heart when they are gone! It sounds like he couldn't have been in a better place for his last months, though. I just joined this group and I think the first thing I have learned is not to read these e-mails at work. I sat at my desk this afternoon with tears rolling down my face when I read about Brumley. Buzz is here with me in my computer room right now. He enjoys laying on my arm while I am trying to type. I have set the room up like a cat playground with loads of toys, a chair by the window, a place to scratch and of coarse his food tray and litter box. Even so he cries when he is left in here and it breaks my heart. I bring him out and hold him often in the rest of the house and I can see that he wants to get down and play with the other cats. I am afraid to let him mingle with the others even if they are older cats. Charlie is my big dumb dark grey boy. He loves everyone that comes near him, human and cat. He loves to lick the other cats. If a cat could bounce along going doit de doy de doy with a huge smile on his face, that would be Charlie. He has asthma and for several months last year he had a lot of trouble with the feline herpes virus in his eyes. Tucker is about the same age as Charlie (7). He recently had to have all his teeth removed because his immune system was attacking the bacteria on his teeth. He also gets spells where he acts drunk (the vet calls it a vestibular episode). They only last for about a half hour and the vet has said to give him vitamin B1. Because of these problems I am afraid that they might have problems fighting off the FeLV virus. Thank you for the advise about food, I will look into feeding Buzz something that is better. Right now he gets IAMS dry food for indoor cats, and I heard that spring water is good for FeLV + cats, so he gets that also. I still think he would be happiest in a home where he could roam the whole house and maybe be with other cats, but in the meantime I intend to do everything for him that I can. I am not the best at computers, so if I am doing this incorrectly, I apologize and please feel free to correct me. Thank you, Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Sweet Buzz I agree with everything Lance said. I foster kittens and also have regular house cats and the fosters have a room- my bedroom which is actually 2 rooms put together-- that they live in. As long as they have their clean environment (which I have to keep clean because it's my room!) and play and affection, they are fine with it. Eventually, the ones I end up keeping may be integrated into being house cats, but I've been doing it this way for months and it's fine. A lot of people on this list- or more so formerly on this
Re: new cat
Lynne - I adopted a new kitty last July. Mandy also tested positive for leukemia. I loved her immediately so I never considered anything but keeping her. She is thriving. I feed her Wellness canned food (mixing in some lysine and Missing Link) and Nutro dry food. She is more than six years old and you would never know she is anything but perfectly healthy. She eats like a small horse, plays most of the day and loves me. Hopefully you will have the same experience. Pat - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: new cat Hi all. I just joined this list after doing all the reading I possibly could find on feline leukemia. I recently acquired a Himalayan male cat around 5 to 6 years of age from a rather unscrupulous family. I was familiar with the cat because all summer he would come over to our house and hang around, mostly wanting attention and something to eat. Recently I discovered he was on a buy and sell site and immediately called the owners desparate to purchase him. Knowing who I am the price went from 150 to 300 within a couple minutes. Anyway, my husband and I had grown to love this little guy and just wanted him to have a good home. Yesterday we took him to the vet where he was groomed, shaved of all the horrible matting under his chest and legs, deflead and treated for a terrible case of earmites. We no sooner got home than the vet called to tell us he had tested positive for feline leukemia and wanted to know how much we had bonded with him and our options. After what seemed like hours of crying I decided we were going to keep him as long as he stayed healthy which he is now. This weekend he is going to be neutered, strongly advised by the vet. This will be strictly a housecat. He's adjusted very well and is adorable. I'm just curious. Does he have a chance at a longer life than I've been lead to believe he has. I'm hearing a couple of years and I just cannot accept this as fact. Lynne
Re: upper respiratory???
Any chance that it could be asthma or some type of allergy? - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: upper respiratory??? Hi Guys, I have a semi-feral cat, Sneaker who has a chronic upper respiratory problem. He has been to the vet, has been on 2 rounds of different antibiotics, and had x-rays done to see if there was any type of mass (cancer, etc...) in his nasal cavities. We are finding nothing. His discharge (if any) is clear. His lungs are clear. He simply breathes as if he's got a stuffy nose. The last thing we did was the x-ray and a culture to see if there's some kind of weird bacterial thing going on. I have 5 other cats here, including my positive, and no one else has this. Any ideas??? thanks in advance, tonya Susan Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In December, Autumn developed bad breath. I checked her mouth and her gums looked inflamed and a few of her teeth were yellowy. After Christmas, we went to PetSmart and got her a little red tooth brush and malt flavored paste. I expected a bit of a fight, but she loves the flavor and runs to get her teeth brushed every night. She doesn't like the brushing so much as licking the paste off the brush, but I am able to get some good, light scrubbing in. So far: no more bad breath and her gums look healthy. I don't know if anyone else had success with this? We also use tartar control treats. I don't usually post because I'm a FeLV noob! However, I've learned a lot from this list and thought I'd post this since it worked well for Autumn. ~Susan A.
Re: OT - Missy
Many, many positive thoughts headed her way. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: OT - Missy Missy has an appointment at Texas AM Cardiology department on February 5th. Please be thinking good throughts for her. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart http://www.change.org/rescuties
Re: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up
I would be gladl to send the picture to my vet - my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Thanks- I will do so tonight when I get home. I did talk with the holistic vet again and she said when she saw the eye, she thought it reminded her of the scarring that can occur on a kitten's eye from reoccurring/untreated URI's-- all of which he did have, that came and went repeatedly, while the poor thing lingered in a condo and I just didn't get to him fast enough (b/c there were other kittens at the time languishing with things that seemed more serious that I needed to take in 1st). So, I understand now why she didn't think we needed to put anything in it- b/c she thought it was permanent damage (which is what I was hoping I would be in time to stop/prevent). She said if it was scarring like she initially thought, I wouldn't be seeing more cloudy spots. So she asked if he was having discharge and told me what to give him based on that. But he really doesn't have a discharge other than crusty brown that he has from both eyes (the healthy one too). He does not have green/yellow/white discharge, or even excessive brown discharge from this eye. So I asked her a follow-up ? based on that and I'm waiting to hear back. I have to give his eye a good look tonight and try to really determine if things have changed with it. He so squirmy with me right now. He looks like a sack of bones and yet, he's so strong when he wants to squirm away. And he definitely doesn't see me as his angel because he runs away from me everytime he sees me! He thinks of me as the treatment monster! caroline Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:32:43 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, altho I unfortunately won't be able to offer any diagnostic suggestions myself, if you can send the pic to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can try forwarding it to more experienced people. I can well imagine how frustrated you must be. Thank goodness the little soul can rely on *you* for care and love. hugs, Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: sick 6 mo kitten follow-up The saga continues with my sick cat Brumley. I don't know what to do any more. The conventional vet that saw him on Dec. 24 got the results back from the Toxoplasmosis test and is was neg. (I can't remember if I reported this info this site or not). So when the Toxo test came back neg, the vet totally reversed gears from the day before (when he said he didn't think it was FIP b/c Brumley only test pos. for high globulin and high protein, but not a corona virus, antibody, etc.). So he completely went back on that and said, basically, he thinks it's FIP b/c he has nothing else to go on and b/c Brumley is showing 2 of the 3 indicators of it (but still no wet indicators like the swollen belly). I think it's the eye that is really throwing him off and I can't for the love of god, get any vet to explain/diagnose/tell me what to with that eye. I have asked if I should be putting anything in it and both the conventional vet and my holistic vet just say no. So, I had a phone consult about Brumley with my holistic vet and she reviewed the blood work and said she doesn't think it's FIP- that a severely dehydrated cat will have high globulin and high protein in the blood panel. And the fact that is his neg. for corona- she just doesn't think it's FIP. She has of course treated FIP cats/kittens and had some herself and she told me she has NEVER seen the dry form of FIP in a kitten (Brum's 7 mths)-- only in older, adult cats does the dry form come out. She said she always sees it in kittens in the clear wet form with the swollen belly and other signs of fluid retention and then they die quickly. And Brum's been lingering on like this for a while now So, I just went about feeding him and making him comfy- moving him into the room with the other other guys (he'd already been exposed to them before I had him); stopped the subcu fluids b/c I didn't think he needs them. I guess it's been two weeks since then and he just kind of hangs out-- eats- he always eats good- no matter what. But about last week he seemed to lose some personality and he laid around a lot and stopped batting around toys. By this past Sun., my mom and I were discussing that he had gone down, down and we were worried. I don't have a thermometer for cats, but I
Re: PARTIAL SUCCESS! Advice on trapping...night v day trapping
Great news!! Congratulations. - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: PARTIAL SUCCESS! Advice on trapping...night v day trapping Last night mom and kitty were waiting and followed my dad to our door to get food. I know they were hungry! I managed to trap the little Munchkin who turns out is a girl. I got her to an e-vet at 10 PM and they tested her and put her in the big dog kennel for me. She's now sitting there sort of looking at all of us. Of course she's lying in the litter box. I think she ate a little of the food but basically she's just scared. I put her up high as she knows my father and he can't crawl around on the floor to talk to her. I should be bringing her to shelter later today. I reset the trap for mom-oh how I hope she isn't too spooked to go in there. I put in some heated dark tuna and smeared a little on the newspaper I lined the bottom of the trap with. I know she's hungry. She's been known to catch birds but she's not really good at it. So now I wait. Munchkin the little one, tested neg for FELV/FIV so I'm hoping that's a good sign for mom. I hate it so that shelter required this-its just sooo unnecessary! Many thanks for all the helpful advice. It really gave me some courage to keep trying. I just felt so over my head on this.I will keep you posted. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Advice on trapping...night v day trapping Trap with water and canned food in the trap. They will be fine overnight. Cover with a towel and place the trap in a quiet, dark, safe INSIDE place until you can get to vet. Most important thing is to keep them safe until they can get to vet. Trying to transfer is not safe. I always took the trapped cat directly to the vet in the trap (covered and placed in plastic in my vehicle). I always trapped in the AM so I could get them right to the vet. That's better, if you can do that, depending on your schedule and theirs. I set 2 traps at once and that sped things up. Good luck, L - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... Is there any 'trick' to transferring from trap to large dog kennel? If for example, I trapped one tonight, I'd have to keep her overnight before I could go anywhere and I don't want to leave the cat in the trap all night with no food, water or litter box.. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Advice on trapping... This is some good trapping advice. http://tinyurl.com/32zpor Also try Alley Cat Allies. On Jan 8, 2008 6:13 PM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would leave the kitty in the trap. Try mackerel..the cats around here can't resist it. Although I wouldn't say these are untrappable, here is some good trapping advice from BF: http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=475g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d On Jan 8, 2008 5:59 PM, Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the trap. The vet people can deal with that better than you or I. - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... Just got some dark tuna and will try that. Problem is that shelter won't take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my blood boil. Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may require overnight.. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Advice on trapping... I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with oil or salmon) in the trap. Also, if you catch one
Re: Advice on trapping...
Well, I would still take the kitty to the vet who does the test in the trap. The vet people can deal with that better than you or I. - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: RE: Advice on trapping... Just got some dark tuna and will try that. Problem is that shelter won't take them unless I have FELV test done-I didn't argue thought it makes my blood boil. Sooo, I have to find someone to do the test and that may require overnight.. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Advice on trapping... I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with oil or salmon) in the trap. Also, if you catch one or the other, take him/her to the shelter in the trap. Don't try to transfer to any other container. Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby that they could choose instead of what is in your trap. Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just don't know it yet!! +:) - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Advice on trapping... I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some more experienced folks might help me with. My father's been feeding a little cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October. Mom is a young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after she got pregnant. She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it. So now there is her and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday. I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having real trouble catching them. Last night I really messed up. I had the kitten but managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel that we have set up for feeding station. He ran off, it was pouring and though I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked. Then I rented a trap but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out. I corrected my mistake and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He was a wee bit surprised and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap! LOL Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish. I was told to cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back. I also put a sheet of newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in. I saw Mom today but she didn't go to eat. I'm hoping they come back. Does anyone have advice? Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so if I trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not sure how to do this. Any and all advice would be most appreciated! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice on trapping...
I would put the smelliest food you can think of (like dark, canned tuna with oil or salmon) in the trap. Also, if you catch one or the other, take him/her to the shelter in the trap. Don't try to transfer to any other container. Try to make sure there is no other food outside anywhere nearby that they could choose instead of what is in your trap. Good luck..you're doing a wonderful thing for the kitties--they just don't know it yet!! +:) - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Advice on trapping... I'm in Tucson visiting my parents and have a dilemma that I thought some more experienced folks might help me with. My father's been feeding a little cat and her kittens since right after we spotted them in October. Mom is a young tortie who we believe someone dumped in their complex after she got pregnant. She had 3 kittens but sadly 2 didn't make it. So now there is her and one of her kittens and they are used to being fed everyday. I have finally found a no-kill shelter who can take them but am having real trouble catching them. Last night I really messed up. I had the kitten but managed to let him slip out when I went to put him in the big dog kennel that we have set up for feeding station. He ran off, it was pouring and though I did see him again, I'm sooo afraid he's really spooked. Then I rented a trap but messed up on setting it up and mom cat slipped out. I corrected my mistake and know I did it right cause I caught another cat. He was a wee bit surprised and scooted out as soon as I opened the trap! LOL Today I set the trap and put some fried chicken and fish. I was told to cover the trap so they can't see the food from the back. I also put a sheet of newspaper inside at the entrance w. some treats to sort of lure them in. I saw Mom today but she didn't go to eat. I'm hoping they come back. Does anyone have advice? Also, I have one trap and a big dog kennel so if I trap one, I'm not sure if I should try to get it into the dog kennel-not sure how to do this. Any and all advice would be most appreciated! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten
I had a calico Persian kitty (Priscilla) who when I got her was just a kitten (she passed away at age 15 last year) and had the same kind of diarrhea problem when she first came to live with me--while otherwise perfectly healthy. When I switched her to Max Cat, it immediately went away and she never had diarrhea again in her entire life. Other kitties I have had with diarrhea but not as persistent - I have given kaopectate and/or Immodium AD (with my vet's concurrence) with good success. - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: OT: diarreah in 6 month old kitten Caroline I've been battling diarrhea for months. It began as giardia and we used everything beginning with Panacur on down and nothing has worked. We used a remedy, Thullium met which worked for several months but it is back again and we in the same state that you are. Nina has a cat (Gypsy) who eats a home prepared 'turkey mush' recipe that cured her chronic diarrhea which was the result of IBD. You might check with her. I use both a homeopath and an allopathic vet and neither of them have been able to get rid of it. Her stools are negative too, and her diet (Whole Foods/PetGuard) is unchanged. She is Felv, and one of the vets indicated that it could be a result of FeLV, which I do not believe to be true. I'm in the process of consulting another vet. If I learn anything new, I'll let you know. Please keep us posted on Yoda. We are desperate. It is really awful. Jane On Dec 19, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: I have a 6 month old non-felv kitten named Yoda that has had diarrhea pretty much off and on ever since I've had him (Labor Day). Some of you may remember me asking you about Yoda's diarrhea back then (at first I thought it was just the antibiotic for his URI, but he hasn't been on an antibiotic since the first weeks of Sept., so that is out). The vet ran a fecal back in Oct.- nothing. We treated with metro...zole (can't remember the name)-- no difference really. And I have treated him with probiotics just for H of it- I used a whole can up of the Eagle Pack Holistic Remedy for Diarreah (added to his food)- it seemed to make no difference with Yoda, so when it ran out, I stopped using it. I've been adding benebac (sp?) to his wet food at night lately- again, no difference. Don't ask about food and diet changes-- I'm so TIRED of answering those friggin questions-- I mean, this isn't my first time up to bat-- I'm not an idiot. I'm tired of the adoption agency people (those that have to approve Yoda going to the vet) asking me every friggin week about diet changes (um, none!) and the vet's office asking the same. If anyone asks this on Sat. at Cat Adoption Day, I'm going to say: Yeah, I'm trying this new thing were I feed Yoda something different for every meal...and tons of table scraps! Why? Do you think that could be it?! What else? Oh, I took him back to the vet this Monday so they had the Yoda butt to really test for giardia- which I knew it wasn't b/c Yoda is mingled with other fosters and personal cats and they would all have it by now and they don't, but just in case...They did another fecal-- nothing. And I know he's healthy-- he looks like a little greyhound he's so healthy- he's all muscle and lean and just doing wonderful. He never feels bad, but he'll go in the litter box and I will hear these horrible diarrhea, squirty sounds (sorry!) and then he just comes out like nothing happened! But it smells horrible and sometimes he can't help but getting it on him and we're all just really tired of it! The Vet said he looked great- which I already knew- and his hydration was great, his temp was fine, etc. But I'm not crazy! He's having this diarrhea! He had a whole puddle of it last night in the litter box! Sometimes it more cow pie-like, so that is why I say it comes and goes. It's obviously not sustained diarrhea or else he would have hydration issues, which he doesn't. But I really want to solve this problem and I feel like I'm at a loss. Yoda also seems to pass gas a lot- especially when he is nervous- like when we go to the cat adoption day-- he kind of smells and it's not his fur b/c I kitty wet wipe him before each adoption day- it's him sitting there nervously passing gas like he has IBS or something? I've been feeding Yoda kitten food- the Eagle Pack Holistic Chicken flavor that is for adult cats and kittens (whatever the H that means?) in the day. In the evening, he gets half a can of the small can of Wellness kitten with Brewer's Yeast and Lysine added. The vet said that kitten food can be richer and to try switching him to adult cat food- maybe all dry b/c he thinks the wet, with the extra moisture can contribute to diarrhea. He recommended Purina (no, I'm not
Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique
I agree. The good greatly outweighs the bad. - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique Ditto. Please stay. I just don't read emails that aren't about cats. It saddens me that there is discord but I need the cat info. Laurie - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribing info for Unusually Unique Ditto for me too. You cannot beat this group for help with this horrible disease. Sally On Dec 7, 2007 5:11 PM, Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what they said:) Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Original Message . manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Power up! You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. Join in! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: feeding birds and feral cats
Is there some reason not to feed the birds? It would seem logical to put out enough bird food so the birds are not tempted by the cat food. - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Brubaker, Angela [DOC] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: feeding birds and feral cats I have a friend who feeds (and TNR) feral cat colonies. She has a new problem. The starlings are eating the cat food. Has anyone encountered this? Have suggestions for what works to feed cats, not birds? thanks! Laurie
Re: Julie has crossed over the Rainbow Bridge
What a wonderful life Julie had and what a wonderful way in which to pass--after a long, loving day and with those she loved. All creatures should be treated as well..a tough decision to make but the right one! - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Julie has crossed over the Rainbow Bridge Hello everyone, It is with sadness I tell you that Julie's doctor and I helped Julie cross over the Rainbow Bridge yesterday afternoon. She was purring and happy when it happened and she passed peacefully. She was my beautiful 18.5 year old Maine Coon who lived a charmed life and was spoiled to no end. She was a very, very sweet kitty and was never aggressive to anyone or to any fellow animal ever. Her little body had just had it from the hyperT and CRF, and after this last week, I knew it was time. It was such a difficult decision to make though. Part of me felt like it was not my place to make that decision; after all I did not create her life. The other part knew that I could never let her suffer the way my Cricket did when he died from FeLV-related anemia. I knew it would be a matter of days for her and I wanted her to pass without suffering. I took off work to spend the day with her and she had a great day, even being as weak as she was. She enjoyed being outside in the sun; it was a beautiful day. I just want to thank everyone here for your help and encouragment with all my kitties and for being such great listeners. You all are wonderful people. Sincerely, Wendy -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor?
I have been feeding Mandy PetGuard wet food and Greenies treats. For dry, she gets Nutro. She's thriving on this--you would never know that she is leukemia positive. Her eyesight has not deteriorated since I have had her. She was totally deaf when I got her but that doesn't seem to bother her at all. - Original Message - From: Kenzie Kanne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: Questions on Diet and Transfer Factor? Hi- I was wondering what kind of diet everyone uses for their FELV positive cats and kittens. I am currently feeding mine Science Diet Kitten Chow and also Friskies canned in a.m. and pm. These ladies have their habits. I have tried switching their dry food and they began vomiting and quit eating so we continued w/ it. I didn't know if their was a better dry or canned I should be feeding them or if what they are eating is okay. I don't want to distress them and they do like their soft food twice a day. Also, I have the Transfer Factor?? Can't remember if that is how it is said..the powder at my house and I have been using Mega C Plus everyday for 3 months now...has anyone used Mega C Plus before? Has it worked for you? So do I continue w/ the Mega C plus only or do I keep using it and use the Transfer Factor too or should I just used the Transfer Factor. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks everyone! Kenzie Kanne ARC Volunteer (712)830-9518 www.myspace.com/animalrescueofcarroll http://animalrescue-carroll.tripod.com/index.html -- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now!
Re: OT:Question
Upper Respiratory Infection (which is a cold for cats) is very infectious. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: OT:Question Hi guys, Can dogs and cats catch colds from each other? Sorry having brain farts right now can't remember...getting old I guess. Somebody contacted me about this. Thanks! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.
Re: Whitey
Many years ago, my calico Persian Priscilla had a similar experience. It turned out she had been bitten by some type of insect which caused her dizziness. I can't remember what my vet prescribed--but he did know just what to do for her. And she recovered and lived many more years in good health. - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Whitey Teddy had a head tilt for a short time. I don't know that I ever got an explanation. It was on and off. You might have his vision checked...Teddy had a retinal hemorrhage. No idea if related to the head tilt or not but it was close to the same time. Blessings, Laurie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Whitey Hey guys. Whitey is still having some issues and I was hoping some of the more experienced people around might have an idea of what's up. The problem I'm seeing is he's still disoriented/dizzy and holding his head sideways when he walks. I can't figure out whats wrong with him! We thought it was a severe inner ear infection, but after 4 weeks on Baytril, it still hasn't cleared up. (It seems to have gotten much better, but not gone). He also had horribly bad teeth, all of which were pulled two weeks ago. I was thinking maybe that was part of it, but he's still doing it two weeks after the dental work and 2 weeks on Baytril, so I'm at a loss here. He's about 12 years old for those of you who may not remember. He's otherwise asympomatic. He doesn't appear to be in any pain. He's quite friendly still and purs when he's in my lap, he gets around, eats and drinks well, using the litterbox well, other than the walking with his head sideways and stumbling his health is a thousand times better than it was when I took him in, but I just can't figure the dizziness out. Any thoughts on what might be causing it? Or how to treat? Should I schedule him another vet appointment? He has to go back on the 13th for his FeLV booster, so I'll definitely talk to the vet then, but I didn't know if I should consider taking him in earlier. Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Litterboxes
It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference what brand of litter (as long as it IS scoopable) we use so I buy whatever I have coupons for--or, if no coupons, I go to Wal-Mart as they have the best prices around here. I have seven cats and seven litterboxes--I've always read that one should have the same number of boxes as cats. We scoop the boxes 4-5 times per day. I don't know that there is a perfect answer--but this works pretty well. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:13 PM Subject: Litterboxes Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with all the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use? Right now I use Tidy Cats scoopable litter, and the Tidy cats litter deodorizer, too. I've also been changing the boxes out completely every week (at least every other week). This gets expensive, especially considering it takes a box and a half to fill three boxes every week. The problem is if I don't change the box out every week, it starts to smell, and one of the litterboxes is in the guestroom. :( So my question is, what kind of litter do you guys use, and what protocol do you use to keep the odor to a minimum? What are the differences in scoopable versus non-scoopable? I'd appreciate any opinions on the matter. :) ~Michael -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Whitey's Test Results
Wonderful news One great thing about cats (or other animals) is that they don't worry. You get to do all the worrying about next week. :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Whitey's Test Results Whitey's FIP test came in today. It was NEGATIVE! :) He's one hell of a tough cat, let me tell ya :) He's going in next week for a follow up visit to recheck his labs, get his FVRCP/FeLV/Rabies vaccines, Neuter, and dental work, if his labs are all ok. That poor fella is gonna have a rough week next week, he just doesn't know it yet. lol We almost have his room remodeled. I'm finishing up the floor today. :) ~M -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
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I have had two FIP cats--both of which had the wet version where the abdomen becomes extremely distended. I believe it is more common than the dry version. They lived about 6 months after diagnosis but I did eventually have to have them put down. Re food--I believe Pet Guard (available around here at least at Whole Foods stores) would be right as high a nutritional wet food as is available. It is what I am feeding my leukemia-positive kitty--and she is thriving. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:47 PM Ok, guys. I just got off the phone with Whitey's vet. Good news and what could potentially be really bad news. Good news first. First of all, his Thyroid is normal, which Dr. Dolen says defies logic. He wants to retest in a few weeks. All his other major organ functions were normal...kidneys, liver, thyroid, everything was good. His WBC were elevated (of course, due probably to the severe ear infection). He is chronically anemic (RBC was 25ish). The thing that concerned Dr. Dolen the most was his elevated Globulin and Albumin levels. His globulin was 8.4, when he says 3ish is the normal range, so he said that indicated a chronic severe infection. He's getting the lab to run an FIP titer on the blood sample they have from the other tests, so we'll know something about that in about a week. He says either the ear infection was so horribly bad that its a miracle he's still alive (to have caused such an elevated globulin level) or he has FIP. I'm certainly hoping its the ear infection, something we can work with. Any of you guys have experience with FIP? I understand its deadly, usually within weeks of symptoms, but I was wondering about the human aspect of it..what have YOU guys experienced with it? He recommended high protein kitten food for him right now. He said the more protein the better...canned tuna, chicken, whatever has the most protein. I'm going to go by a local natural pet food store on my way home from work that carries premium kitten foods. Also interested if any of you know what the absolute highest nutritional content wet food would be? I'm thinking Innova kitten food in a can, maybe wellness kitten food? Anyway, more updates when I get them. Michael -- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
Re: Whitey
As far as the feeling guilty is concerned--anyone who lets their cat get into that condition doesn't deserve to have an animal of any type. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Whitey View full size View full sizeFor those of you without the history, Whitey came to me about six months ago relatively permanently. She showed up and just sort of stayed. When she came, she was boney (You could feel its ribs) and her long white fur was literally in huge mats all over her body. After months of feeding and brushing, I got her fur cleaned up and she put on a few pounds. Last night I went to feed her and found her so disoriented she couldn't even stand up, so Jeff took her to the vet this morning, and this is where the story picks up... Ok, guys. Jeff just got back from the vet with Whitey. Here's what we learned. (Pictures Attached.) She is a He LOL He is about 10-12 years old. He has not been neutered. :( He has a severe inner-ear infection. He has a grade 3 heart murmur He has advanced/severe gingivitis. Needs several teeth pulled. FeLV/FIV NEGATIVE. (Thank God for something!) He also has hyperthyroidism. They found a benign tumor on his thyroid. We're starting with oral antibiotics to get the ear infection cleaned up. They drew blood for a thyroid and kidney check, as well as a fecal sample. Doc wants to get the ear infection cleared up before we start with thyroid medicine and such to make sure its not the infection causing all those other problems.He also wanted to wait on vaccines until we get everything else cleared up. They cleaned his ears and clipped his nails today. He's going back for vaccines/teeth pulling when we get the infection cleared up. Now here's the dilemma. First of all, I'm starting to feel bad about taking someone else's cat. He just wandered to the house and sorta stayed, but he does go home from time to time for a few hours, but is always at teh house at night and in the morning for food. I *think* I know who he belongs to, but I'm not certain. The vet says he must stay indoors (at least for now) due to the severe infection and his imbalance, otherwise they said he couldn't run from cats/dogs or cars, he's very much at risk right now, so he's going in my Sun Room, which I suppose will become the kitty suite. What do you guys think? I don't think I should feel bad for taking him, for the simple fact that if someone is so irresponsible a pet owner that they'd let him get in that shape, do they really care or deserve to own an animal? I really do think its in HIS best interest that he stays with me, but again, he doesn't technically belong to me, so its a dilemma. What do you guys think? Another issue I'm having is his FeLV negative status. With two positives in the house, what do I do? For now he's going to be isolated in the sunroom where he's safe, but if I keep him long term, should I let him back outdoors? I just don't know what to do. I really don't feel good about mixing him with the positives and exposing him to FeLV. My other negative had already been exposed before I knew. But this is a totally different situation. I could keep him isolated til he's better, then let him back out, that's one option. Another option is mixing :( I really can't see leaving him in the sunroom the rest of his life, that just wouldn't be fair. I'd appreciate input/opinions, guys. Michael -- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
Re: Question
My vet strongly recommends Frontline so I don't use any other--it may be used on kittens 8 weeks or older. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Question How old do the kittens need to be to use advantage on them or any other flea product? Don't worry I don't use over the counter stuff. These are four and half weeks old now. Thanks! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Whitey
White cats with different colored eyes are very frequently--but not always--deaf. My Freely (who was rescued from a ruined palace in Baghdad) is white with one blue and one gold eye and definitely not deaf. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Whitey In a message dated 10/8/2007 8:46:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as a white kitty with 2 differently colored eyes, isn't there a good chance this kitty is deaf? Sometimes...as I have a personal senior kitty of 19 years that is not deaf or was sterile. So she was spayed at 4 months of age. Continues to hear well. She has two different colored eyes and solid white. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Possible sick kitten
Very glad to hear the good news. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Possible sick kitten I think I jumped the gun...I tend to get paranoid especially when it comes to rescues. The kitten is eating and playing now. This happen later in the day after I wrote you guys. Thanks for asking! In a message dated 10/6/2007 7:15:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How's the baby? TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Possible sick kitten
Whenever I take in another cat/kitten, I take him/her/them directly to my vet prior to them even coming home. Sounds like this little guy/gal needs to see your vet ASAP. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Possible sick kitten Hi all, Okay, here is the deal: I rescued a mama with 5 kittens (4 weeks old) at a kill shelter. One of the kittens doesn't look so good seems a little lethargic and seen some runny poop on it's butt. Others are doing well and eating. I've only had these kittens and mom for 2 days. What can I do for this kitten? Mama was tested (negative) and vaccinated/de-wormed when she came into the shelter 2 days prior to me getting them. Thanks guys! As I look up to you for info! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Possible sick kitten
Do you live where there are emergency clinics? Many's the time I've had to use one of them--fortunately there are quite a few around here. If not, almost all vets have after-hours number so you can call your clinic and talk to whomever has weekend duty. Or you could try the nearest PetSmart if there are any near you. All the ones around here have a vet clinic attached (Banfield) and stay open later than regular vets. Most kittens have worms so that may be the problem. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Possible sick kitten Can't get into my Vets until Monday. That is why I'm asking for a little help. In a message dated 10/6/2007 12:31:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whenever I take in another cat/kitten, I take him/her/them directly to my vet prior to them even coming home. Sounds like this little guy/gal needs to see your vet ASAP. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
All of the vets I have had over the years have stated this same thing re testing of kittens less than 3 months old. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
It sounds to me as if you should try a different vet--since this one laughed at you (totally unacceptable) and now is not able to explain Whisper's condition to you--just wants to run more tests (more $). Some vets, unfortunately, care more about money than animals. (I had the misfortune to know one of those.) I would strongly suggest another clinic--perhaps you could ask friends with animals who they would recommend. My very best to you. Pat - Original Message - From: Vila Ash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat I sent this by my other email. I got a message back saying its pending due to my email address not being a member. SO PLEASE reply to this one. We dont know how much longer he will go on like this. PLEASE HELP!! I have had my cat, Whisper, for about 5 years now he use to weigh 18lbs (a year ago), now he weighs about 7-10lbs. He is the oldest of 3 other cats. A month ago we found out he has Leukemia. We never knew what was wrong with him, we never thought it to be Leukemia. About a year ago we took him to the vet, for vomiting and drooling, the vet laughed at us because he thought whisper was in really good health.Well a year went by with out any treatment or even knowing some this was wrong with him.We took him to the vet about a month or so ago for his eyes ( he had an infection in his eyes, and was not eating), they ran a blood test and they told us he has Leukemia. They kept him over night to start the treatments right a way. They gave us Clacamox Drops (very pricey), Neo/Poly/Dex Ophthalmic drops, and the Interferon. He seemed to be getting worse.We took him to the vet today to get them to do a check up on him ( he hasnt been eating, been having to force feed him, he wont get up much, excessive drooling.) and get more of his medication, they believe he has ulcers in his mouth which is causing him to not eat and make him drool. Well now they think he has some other disease kind of like Leukemia that is causing the ulcers, lack of appetite, and causing the medications to not work. So they want to run MORE test and give him MORE medication, etc. We are not sure what we want to do. He seems to be suffering so much, and he also seems to know he does not have much longer to live. We are all talking about either keeping him on his medication, let him live out his life without his medication, or taking him off his medication and see if he will do better, and if he does not do better then we will put him down. BUT, what I dont understand is that the vet cant fully explain to us about: what is going on, why cant they help us more, what is the other possible disease, how long might he live more, etc. It just seems like all they want is money, money and more money. One of his medication they sell for about $26 and we can get it from 1-800-PETMEDS for about $10, its the same bottle, same size, same doses. The test for leukemia is $55, and so is the other test. I dont understand what is going on. Whisper is my baby, I would give every thing to help him, but with the vet confusing us we really dont know what to do. Can you possibly explain every thing a bit better? Sincerely, Gina Whisper Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: Transferring the Virus
My vet says that the vaccine is at least 90% effective and I should not worry about my one positive kitty living together with the six negatives--all of whom are vaccinated and at least 4 years old. - Original Message - From: Chris Behnke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Transferring the Virus My positives and negatives having been living together in the same home without separation for 4 years. So far, no one new has tested positive. My ones that are positive got the virus through heredity, not exposure. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 12:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Transferring the Virus Dawn, I'm far from the big expert, but I think the chances are almost nonexistent that you're transferring anything by just walking from room to room. The motto for the virus is if it dries, it dies. It reminds me of a memorable passage in the book Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex... in which someone asked if you can catch STDs from toilet seats. The answer was, yes, under the following circumstances: someone with an open genital sore (I know, TMI) uses a toilet and presses the sore against the toilet seat. Seconds later, you, also with a sore, use the same toilet and press your sore against the same spot. Otherwise, no. ;-) So unless you go from, say, cleaning your FeLV+ kitty's teeth, to your healthy kitties within seconds, with your fingers still wet with saliva, it's not gonna happen. Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the others now automatically test positive because they have the vaccine in them? In any case, I'm not sure there's a real need to segregate Bea from everybody now. Diane R. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Transferring the Virus Hello again everyone, Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4 10 years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet dry), water and liter box. It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa IFA) We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too early to tell) and vaccinated. In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from all 3 bowls. Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened I'm passing it around more. Thanks Dawn -- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: need medicine
That price is absolutely outrageous. There must be less expensive vets you could go to. My vet charges $36 for an office visit. Check vet website in your area. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: need medicine Yeah i know the cat is overdue for a vet visit. But I am currently unemployed at the moment, I am young so I still live with my mother. We are keeping the cat because my friend does not have a place to live, no job, and no money. I am feeding the cat innova food. The vet appointment will cost about 250 bucks, and they dont do payments or help for the poor. The cat is otherwise healthy. Any ideas on a good appetite stimulant and where I can get one? I will try that drugstore link. thanks Chelsea
Re: Kaylee is gone
I am so very, very sorry, Chris. I've had to do that four times in the last two years and I know how hard it is--but it is the right thing for your girl. She is in a happier (for her) place right now and her spirit thanks you for all the love you gave her. Pat - Original Message - From: Chris Behnke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Kaylee is gone I just came back from the vets after saying goodbye to my girl. The tumor had eaten away too much at her eye and nose area that there was no hope. I could have brought her home but it would only have been a few days and she wouldn’t have felt good. So I went to the vets and said my goodbyes while she was still sedated and held her while I had to let go. Thank you everyone for you support. Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/988 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 9:14 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1002 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 5:46 PM
Re: Advantage/FrontLine
We use Frontline on all the shelter cats and dogs. My vet likes it because it works on both. It costs less if you buy it on line. I use 1800PetMeds.com. Can't speak for Advantage but Frontline comes in a bunch of sizes for dogs--depending upon the size of the animal. The cheapest way we've found for the shelter (150-200 animals) is to purchase the very largest dog size and divide it into smaller doses for the cats and smaller dogs. It comes in packages of 3, 6, 9 or 12 tubes. The med is squeezed on the animal--in between their shoulder blades. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: Advantage/FrontLine Hey guys, Quick question...I've heard a couple of you on here mention you use the advantage or frontline for dogs on your cats to save money, can someone fill me in on how you do this? I've noticed one of my positive kitties scratching the last couple of days, so I assume she's picked up some fleas somewhere. I was going to treat all three of them, plus 2 or 3 of my neighbor's outside cats (since they pretty much live at my house!) but I can't hardly afford to pay $13 a pop times six. Thanks for the info. PS, I still have the appointment at the UT veterinary school on the 11th for the girls. In the meantime, they're doing well with the Missing Link and Lysine, all three healthy and still happy. I also got the Pet Temp thermometer and have established all their baseline temps so I can keep periodic checks. I'll keep you guys updated! Michael -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: To Pat and Mandy
Hi, Wendy - Mandy and I visited Keith (my vet and best guy friend) today. He said that Mandy's right eye is just the same--no improvement but no worse either. The left eye shows some improvement, albeit VERY small--so we're keeping up the drops in that eye for another 4 weeks. Mandy is otherwise the most energetic, healthy cat one could imagine. Just absolutely LOVES to eathave her on Pet Guard with lysine and Missing Link added. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: To Pat and Mandy Hey Pat, I'm glad that you've got a plan for Mandy. I hope those drops work and I'm saving this info. for new people that join the list who have eye issues with their FeLV kitties. Please keep me posted on how these drops do for little Mandy. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:16:35 PM Subject: Re: To Pat and Mandy Hi Wendy - just wanted to update you on Mandy. She is doing very well--my own vet examined her and contacted a animal ophthamologist in regard to her eyes. Dr. King (the ophthamologist) said she had not come across the exact eye problem Mandy has but uses Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic Suspension for all her leukemia-positive patients who exhibit eye problems. So, I am to put drops in Mandy's eyes three times per day for two weeks. Mandy is a very happy little cat (has gained some weight on the PetGuard food) and has no symptoms other than the eye problems. - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: To Pat and Mandy Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1344articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from
Re: Please add Jingles to the CLS
I am so very sorry Susan to hear about Jingles. You were both so lucky to have found each other. I'm sorry your parting was so traumatic. Best to you and all your other babies. - Original Message - From: Susan Loesch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Please add Jingles to the CLS My sweet little Jingles boy - who I wrote about last week asking about the ulcer/tumor on his eye had to be euthanized Saturday night. He was fine Friday night and I'd planned to take him to the vet the first part of this week. He was eating and cuddling up with me then. Sat. morning I didn't bother him when he was curled up in a cat bed with Sherpa and Autumn - they all looked so comfortable that I just left them. Was gone most of the day and when I went back iin and Jingles was still curled up in the bed i tried to wake him up. His eye looked like it had literally exploded - red/pink and white tissue comiing out and the eye dripping. The Emerg Clinic wasn't an option for him because he wasn't strong enough to withstand anesthesia and an enucleation. I sedated him as fast as I could and he was euthanized. I have never ever seen anything like that. Jimgles was a totally sweet boy who loved to sleep with me. He had gone downhill over the last couple of months and I figured his life was coming to an end, but I sure didn't expect this. He was adopted from a kill shelter by an elderly lady who didn't care that he was feleuk positive. Then she died and I've had him about 5 years. Such a sweetheart.
Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge
I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug used to help people undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been compromised. There are some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from people who say they have been hurt by the drug. Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a couple of months after seeing them almost every day for a while. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Beckie, You are such a bright little light here and I feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet little Moeman might be fading away. You have learned a lot for the time you have been here. I know I have on just how to take care of our little guys better and signs to look for. I have been checking all my kittie's gums this morning and just like I suspected, my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has seemed out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him tested and for now am trying to get a good iron supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it that said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with the anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am asking my vet about what it is and can I have some right now... I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks to these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a couple months ago. Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in stressing our guys out either.I think you probably have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and if he is getting weaker and you have tried through supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just love him. I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her husband to share their experience with you...I will be keeping that letter for myself, for when I will be needing that precious support, that can only come from people who really understand... My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in my prayers. It feels odd to write about this now as my husband and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it helps you. My baby died at home. That was important to me, and i wanted it that way though my husband was very caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable and not with people she was afraid of and being stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and screaming and while in trauma that might be more beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it makes it harder. So after that experience (this was with my grandmother) I told myself that if this happened with my animals- i wanted it to be gentle and peaceful. There is a line from the nbc show Heros where Peter the hospice nurse says, death can be beautiful, if you let it be. Though most may reject this statement because it is not something most want to think about, I can say that I do agree with it. It doesn't make it hurt less, but it made it easier for me to deal with. She stopped eating, and slept all the time. She didn't purr and did not want to be held. In her prime she was very talkative and loved being held and paraded around our apartment. Eventually she stopped her toilet activiites- which actually was a relief because she had a lot of blood (stool was a dark tar color) in it and that was very tough. I started having a feeling that it was going to be on sunday because i started getting a song in my head about a relationship ending that is from Aspects of love by Andrew Lloyd Weber. The song is Tell me on a sunday. Don't write a letter when you want to leave Don't call me at 3 a.m. from a friend's apartment I'd like to choose how I hear the news Take me to a park that's covered with trees Tell me on a Sunday please Don't leave in silence with no word at all Don't get drunk and slam the door That's no way to end this I know how I want you to say goodbye Find a circus ring with a flying trapeze Tell me on a Sunday please That day - on sunday- she was in the bathroom and she was breating very heavy. Her eyes were very diated. I bent down around her and sang her Complainte De La Butte from Moulin Rouge. For the first time all weekend she raised her head and looked at me. She purred so loud. I told her I loved her and if she wanted to go it was okay. I got a feeling that she understood. The song goes: Petite mandigotte je sens ta menotte qui cherche ma main Je sens ta poitrine et ta taille fine J'oublie mon chagrin Je sens sur tes lèvres une odeur de fièvre de gosse mal nourri Et sous ta caresse je sens une ivresse qui m'anéantit The stairways up to la butte can make the wretched sigh while windmill wings of the moulin shelter you and I I sang to her for about 15 minutes and pet her, even though I could feel each vertebrate of
Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorrybutplease indulge
I'm very glad that I could help, Glenda.. Pat - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorrybutplease indulge Wow! Thanks! I had the animal medical suppy place trying to find this stuff for me under iron supplements...no wonder they could not pull it up. I guess if my vet does not hurry and get back to me in the next hour I will be off to buy some human iron supplement. My cat Dingo does not do pills well at all, so will have to give with a dropper. He also has always been a dainty eater...can't stick it in tuna...He has really been turning his nose up lately and I am realizing I have an emergency on my hands...If it were not for this list I might not have noticed... Thanks, Pat, for setting me straight as to Procrit...Glenda --- Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen a lot of ads for Procrit - it is a drug used to help people undergoing chemo and whose white cells have been compromised. There are some lawsuits filed against the manufacturer from people who say they have been hurt by the drug. Come to think of it--haven't seen the ads for a couple of months after seeing them almost every day for a while. - Original Message - From: glenda Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge Beckie, You are such a bright little light here and I feel so sad to know you are hurting and your sweet little Moeman might be fading away. You have learned a lot for the time you have been here. I know I have on just how to take care of our little guys better and signs to look for. I have been checking all my kittie's gums this morning and just like I suspected, my old guy, Dingo, he is 13 years old, and has seemed out of sorts lately, has very pale gums. He is not FeLV+ or FIV+ that I know of ,but I will have him tested and for now am trying to get a good iron supplement. I wrote down :Procrit ? Who was it that said they gave that to a kitty and it helped with the anemia? It was just in a recent post... I am asking my vet about what it is and can I have some right now... I just left a message for my vet...Anyway, thanks to these guys here, I know a lot more than I did a couple months ago. Do not give up fighting, but I do not believe in stressing our guys out either.I think you probably have a good idea where Moeman is at this point and if he is getting weaker and you have tried through supplements, etc. you have done all you can...just love him. I absolutely loved Jenna's letter to you. What a beautiful, thoughtful gift from her and her husband to share their experience with you...I will be keeping that letter for myself, for when I will be needing that precious support, that can only come from people who really understand... My heart is with you and Moeman...Glenda --- Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im so sorry beckie- i will keep you and moeman in my prayers. It feels odd to write about this now as my husband and i were crying remembering our beloved siamese calico lady. This is my experience and I hope it helps you. My baby died at home. That was important to me, and i wanted it that way though my husband was very caucious about it. I wanted her to be comfortable and not with people she was afraid of and being stressed out. I have seen people go kicking and screaming and while in trauma that might be more beneficial, in the case of terminal illness it makes it harder. So after that experience (this was with my grandmother) I told myself that if this happened with my animals- i wanted it to be gentle and peaceful. There is a line from the nbc show Heros where Peter the hospice nurse says, death can be beautiful, if you let it be. Though most may reject this statement because it is not something most want to think about, I can say that I do agree with it. It doesn't make it hurt less, but it made it easier for me to deal with. She stopped eating, and slept all the time. She didn't purr and did not want to be held. In her prime she was very talkative and loved being held and paraded around our apartment. Eventually she stopped her toilet activiites- which actually was a relief because she had a lot of blood (stool was a dark tar color) in it and that was very tough. I started having a feeling that it was going to be on sunday because i started getting a song in my head about a relationship ending that is from Aspects of love by Andrew Lloyd Weber. The song is Tell me on a sunday. Don't write a letter when you want to leave Don't call me at 3 a.m. from a friend's apartment I'd like to choose how I hear the news Take me to a park that's covered with trees Tell me on a Sunday please Don't leave in silence
Re: 2007 WSAVA Proceedings ALREADY Available
All I get from this is a lot of stuff about vehicle identification numbers (VINs). - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] 2007 WSAVA Proceedings ALREADY Available For those of you who are curious about new veterinary procedures/treatments... http://www.vin. com/proceedings/ Proceedings. plx?CID=WSAVA200 7O=Generic :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __,_._,___ -- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
Re: To Pat and Mandy
I will definitely let you know what happens.. - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: Re: To Pat and Mandy Hey Pat, I'm glad that you've got a plan for Mandy. I hope those drops work and I'm saving this info. for new people that join the list who have eye issues with their FeLV kitties. Please keep me posted on how these drops do for little Mandy. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:16:35 PM Subject: Re: To Pat and Mandy Hi Wendy - just wanted to update you on Mandy. She is doing very well--my own vet examined her and contacted a animal ophthamologist in regard to her eyes. Dr. King (the ophthamologist) said she had not come across the exact eye problem Mandy has but uses Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic Suspension for all her leukemia-positive patients who exhibit eye problems. So, I am to put drops in Mandy's eyes three times per day for two weeks. Mandy is a very happy little cat (has gained some weight on the PetGuard food) and has no symptoms other than the eye problems. - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: To Pat and Mandy Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1344articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's
Re: To Pat and Mandy
Hi Wendy - just wanted to update you on Mandy. She is doing very well--my own vet examined her and contacted a animal ophthamologist in regard to her eyes. Dr. King (the ophthamologist) said she had not come across the exact eye problem Mandy has but uses Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic Suspension for all her leukemia-positive patients who exhibit eye problems. So, I am to put drops in Mandy's eyes three times per day for two weeks. Mandy is a very happy little cat (has gained some weight on the PetGuard food) and has no symptoms other than the eye problems. - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: To Pat and Mandy Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1344articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
I take Valtex - it IS a med for humans who have herpes infections. Never heard of it used for animals. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have never heard of Valtrex. A faint positive at 4months could indicate that she has been exposed and will fight off the virus. Your situation is very hopeful for that to happen. In the meantime I would boost her immune system with vitamin C and lysine. Others on the list can give you more ideas. tonya Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
Valtex has been a wonder drug for me. After many years of flares on my waistline and above (leaving scars), I have not had even ONE outbreak since the Valtrex. It costs just $25 per month--which to me is a great bargain. Don't believe I would try it on any animal without specific OK from a medical professional. - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I know people who take Lysine supplements in lieu of taking Valtrex, or another herpes medication, due to the expense of Valtrex and/or aversion to taking too much prescription medication. Lysine supplements work to keep the Herpes Simplex virus at bay (which is what oral Valtrex claims to do) and has been very successful for the people that I know that take it. I take Lysine myself for an extra immune booster. -Caroline From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We had her tested and she had a very faint positive for FeLV. I've been reading up on treatments and anti virals and I was wondering if it would be a good/ bad idea to give her low dose of valtrex? Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. The kitten is about 4 months old and VERY energetic. Quentin Sonnier Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php -- PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best web mail-award-winning Windows Live Hotmail.
Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment
We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:44:15 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Wendy - I adopted just 3 days ago an almost five-year old cat who is FeLv positive. (Didn't know it until I took her for testing the next day.) She has no outward symptoms except partial loss of vision (and possibly some hearing loss). Other than that, she is lively, playful and eats like a small horse. Could you tell me how much lysine I should give her? I have bought some at the Whole Foods store but, of course, it only gives human dosage. She is very small--less than 5 lbs. Thank you. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hi Quentin, Welcome to the group. Bad idea on the Valtrex. Don't give your kitty any medication that your vet has not recommended. I have never heard of Valtrex being used on cats. Asparin and Ibuprofen are also no-no's, FYI. I have a cat that was diagnosed with feline herpes and had a bad corneal ulcer that we could not get rid of with the meds the vet gave us, including antivirals. She only had one eye to begin with and we almost lost the other one! We finally started giving her 500 mg 2x per day of lysine with no additives (especially propynol glycol, which can cause blood issues) into her wet food and the ulcer went away! It was wonderful! So I definitely recommend lysine for any kitties with viruses. Your kitty has about a 40% chance to fight off this virus and seroconvert. Give her about 3 months before you retest her again with an IFA test. Which test did the vet do on her? Elisa or IFA? Elisa can give a false positive and is what most vets use in-house. You might ask your vet about this. Also, feeding her a high quality diet with supplements like lysine, and keeping her environment stress-free and the two most important factors in helping kitty to seroconvert and keeping the virus at bay if she doesn't. Even if your kitty does not seroconvert, there are some kitties who live long lives, especially if these two factors are taken care of. There is a kitty at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary that is FeLV+ and 22 yrs. old! :) Wendy Dallas, TX Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Quentin Sonnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:42:17 AM Subject: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment I have a sweet little black with white tip girl and I took her to the vet to get treated and wormed. We
Re: To Pat and Mandy
Thank you Wendy. Mandy's eyes do not look anything like the ones in the Uveitis pictures. The pupils just do not dilate no matter what the lighting. The pupils are always just a vertical slit--as if subjected to intense light. The vet I saw darkened the room and used the pencil light but nothing changes. I am going to visit my regular vet at the end of this week when he is back in town. Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: To Pat and Mandy Pat, It's possible Mandy's vision will return to normal when you figure out what's causing the vision loss. Don't give up hope for that. I have not seen any vision loss directly related to FeLV here in the past year and a half, nor have I read anything about that. I have seen FeLV linked to Uveitis. It's very important that it be diagnosed so that it can be treated, if this is the case. Here is a good link to it: http://www.animaleyecare.net/diseases/uveitis.htm We think Uveitis is what caused Smookie to lose her eye before we adopted her. Either that or conjuncitivis: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1cat=1344articleid=250 I'm really concerned that the vet just chalked up the vision issue to FeLV. FeLV is a virus that surpresses the immune system. It allows other diseases and conditions to develop. Those must be treated. Cat's don't die from FeLV. They die from the diseases that develop from a weakened immune system caused by FeLV. That's why I said bloodwork might be good. Whatever you do, pursue this eye issue and get it cleared up or at least get it diagnosed. It is not directly caused by the FeLV. So many of us here have trusted our vet's opinion/diagnosis only to our cat's detriment. Yes, we think vet's are great, but doing your own research will go a long way in making sure your furbaby stays healthy. I have personally experienced my own vet being wrong at least three times in the past few years. At least one of those times would have cost my kitty his life had I not persisted and kept asking questions. There are others here who can tell you those same stories. It's great that you have such a good relationship with your vet. It's hard to find a good vet, or at least one that will listen to the opinions of their customers. We have found that so many vets are not up-to-date on FeLV, and many still recommend pts at first diagnosis. It's good your vet did not do that. Let me know what your vet says when you go see him again. I am curious to see what he says about the vision issue. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:14:59 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment We think Mandy has only had the virus for about 5 months--but only because the vision problem began at that time so it is really just a guess. The vet said that the virus may attack most any part of the cat and he has seen other cases where it did attack the vision. Thanks for the advice re dosage of lysine. I am starting her on it today. Also purchased some PetPromise food at Whole Foods this morning. I see there is advice in one of these threads from a veterinarian regarding cats getting enough protein and enough water in their diet--the list mentioned two others Whole Foods sells so I am going to get some of those, too. So far, she'll wolf down just about anything. I did not see my regular vet who is also my friend as he is on vacation until Thursday. When he returns, I am going to discuss Mandy with him--as I think he is the world's best!! (Possibly a little biased.) Pat - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Valtrex toxic for cats or effective FeLV treatment Hey Pat, When we started Smookie on the lysine (no additives; can cause problems), we gave her 500 mg. capsules that we opened and mixed in with her wet food twice a day. So she was getting 1000 mg per day. Lysine is an amino acid, and it interferes with the virus's ability to replicate. Since your furbaby is only 5 lbs., you might consider sticking with 250 mg. 2x per day. Also, even though your kitty is almost 5 years old, she still can throw the virus, depending on when she was exposed. Some even throw the virus a long time after exposure, but that's more rare. Since your kitty has the vision/hearing issues, have you done blood work on her? Hypertension can cause overeating and vision problems. You might have to ask specifically for a high blood pressure test. Does the vet know why she has loss of vision? :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
Re: Lost Katrina Pets
Our shelter, ALL CATS INC, rescued and return to families more than 3,000 Katrina pets. I have forwarded your message to as many people as I know of. Pat - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: RE: Lost Katrina Pets Thank you so much… These are just a handful of the hundreds of pets folks have never stopped looking for. Many owners lost any pictures of their pets they had in the flooding. What’s maddening is that for many of them, there are pictures AFTER the pets were rescued but no can tell them where their pet went to! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Lost Katrina Pets Hi Chris, Thanks for the link. I posted the You Tube clip on my web page. With a little blurb about Hurricane Fran in 1996 that came aboard Topsail, NC as a Cat 3 direct hit to a fragile little island. Sally http://www.lostkatrinapets.com Thank you, Kind Regards, Susan Bongiorno Reuniting Families and Pets St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
