Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Lol... I understand your desire for justice, aws the great q once said (star trek: borg). I am absolutely 101 % with you on all that you said. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 16 December 2010 22:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Thanks aprone, though I have a nasty feeling trans atlantic phone calls to bavisoft could be rather expensive. You might send the number to thomas ward if he'd considder phoning them in his capacity as audeasy co list owner, and as a developer himself. I have actually phoned those audio games developers in the Uk, I phoned azabat software to get their demo cd so that I could write game reviews, and phoned Gamevial just for general discussion of their web based games. My next targit, is to see if i can eerbash some sense into the rnib and convince them that there is more to audio games than azabat and their talking crosswords and board games (which I rather think are somewhat overpriced), and not all visually impared people are over the age of sixty. Given that the rnib are intrinsically stupid and my 20 year long war to get them to record a wider variety of books has not seen too much success, this is probably a doomed enterprise, but I can at least try. Oh and yes, I did first phone the rnib with a book request at the age of 7 for Douglas Hill's novel the caves of Klydor a sequal to exiles of colsec which they'd recorded in 1979 (three years before I was born and ten years before I phoned them). they did finally! record the book in 2009. It'll be interesting to see if it takes them another 20 years to do the last in the trilogy. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kaldobsky" To: "audyssey" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I figure I'm probably a long way off from being skilled enough to do that. Problem is I haven't had time to pick BGT back up again lately what with getting married and everything associated with it. THen we'll be moving into a bigger apartment in a few days. So I don't even know when I'll have the time to get back into it. It's still on my to-do list though. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Brian, Ah...your Berserk project hasn't been working out so well? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? You might look into BGT, BLastbay Game Toolkit in case you don't know. It's only in Beta stages right now but it's shaping up to be a powerful development utility. The language may seem complicated at first (and I've in no way begun to master it), but once you've read te tutorial through thoroughly a few times and started playing with it it's actually a lot of fun. It basically takes the down and dirty nitty gritty stuff and does that part for you. Basically what you have to do is tell it what you want to do and how you want to do it. Philip Bennefall has been working on this for the better part of a year. The utility will cst something even to develop free games, unless of course you planned on making those particular titles open source, but the prices are reasonable in my book. I own the light version, which allows for the development of as many free itles as you wish. Then you have the Single License version which will cost about a hundred bucks. That allows you to develop one comercial title, though if it's a good one it'll more than cover the 400 dollars cost of the Unlimited version, which of course allows you to develop as many free or commercial games as your heart desires. If you're at all interested you can check out www.blastbay.com to download it and start playing with it. Just don't do what I tried to do and jump right in and start trying to develop a game right off the bat LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Brian, Ah...your Berserk project hasn't been working out so well? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? You might look into BGT, BLastbay Game Toolkit in case you don't know. It's only in Beta stages right now but it's shaping up to be a powerful development utility. The language may seem complicated at first (and I've in no way begun to master it), but once you've read te tutorial through thoroughly a few times and started playing with it it's actually a lot of fun. It basically takes the down and dirty nitty gritty stuff and does that part for you. Basically what you have to do is tell it what you want to do and how you want to do it. Philip Bennefall has been working on this for the better part of a year. The utility will cst something even to develop free games, unless of course you planned on making those particular titles open source, but the prices are reasonable in my book. I own the light version, which allows for the development of as many free itles as you wish. Then you have the Single License version which will cost about a hundred bucks. That allows you to develop one comercial title, though if it's a good one it'll more than cover the 400 dollars cost of the Unlimited version, which of course allows you to develop as many free or commercial games as your heart desires. If you're at all interested you can check out www.blastbay.com to download it and start playing with it. Just don't do what I tried to do and jump right in and start trying to develop a game right off the bat LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that > they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I > did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I > wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid > one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a > bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the > UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in > the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has > been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a > correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own > games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my > to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be > a project I undertake next year! > > On 12/15/10, Clement Chou wrote: >> Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not >> going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I >> do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good >> precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to >> order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much >> a waste of time... >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.o
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Thanks aprone, though I have a nasty feeling trans atlantic phone calls to bavisoft could be rather expensive. You might send the number to thomas ward if he'd considder phoning them in his capacity as audeasy co list owner, and as a developer himself. I have actually phoned those audio games developers in the Uk, I phoned azabat software to get their demo cd so that I could write game reviews, and phoned Gamevial just for general discussion of their web based games. My next targit, is to see if i can eerbash some sense into the rnib and convince them that there is more to audio games than azabat and their talking crosswords and board games (which I rather think are somewhat overpriced), and not all visually impared people are over the age of sixty. Given that the rnib are intrinsically stupid and my 20 year long war to get them to record a wider variety of books has not seen too much success, this is probably a doomed enterprise, but I can at least try. Oh and yes, I did first phone the rnib with a book request at the age of 7 for Douglas Hill's novel the caves of Klydor a sequal to exiles of colsec which they'd recorded in 1979 (three years before I was born and ten years before I phoned them). they did finally! record the book in 2009. It'll be interesting to see if it takes them another 20 years to do the last in the trilogy. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Kaldobsky" To: "audyssey" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Heck no. If they were in the Uk, I would've phoned them and pestered them far earlier than this ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi, Hmmm...I didn't know they were based in the states. For some reason I thought they were based over in the U.K. Although, the fact they used American voice talent should have clued me in. Lol! On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember rightly > they have a phone number on their site? > > Obviously it's an us one, so me ringing it from over here would cost far too > much to be worth it, but maybe you could give them an ear bashing that way? > > that is also, perfectly legal, even if you do cause their brains to run > out of their ears! ;D. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I won't give up on a response until at least next wendsay, after that I'll think again. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Muhammed, Dark just posted the message a little while ago. You can't honestly expect Bavisoft to respond that fast. I get loads of e-mails both private and public and some times it takes me a day or two to actually get to some of my messages.Therefore I wouldn't expect anything more or less out of Bavisoft. Give them at least a day or two to see the post and respond. Smile. On 12/16/10, Shiny protector wrote: Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember rightly they have a phone number on their site? Obviously it's an us one, so me ringing it from over here would cost far too much to be worth it, but maybe you could give them an ear bashing that way? that is also, perfectly legal, even if you do cause their brains to run out of their ears! ;D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
If they don't respond to the audiogames.net topic, I'll go and get that address from paypall the way tiffany did and send the message to them that way (at least I know that address is working). Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and see how Bavisoft take it. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
hay muhammed, i wrote my message at eleven this morning and it's now not even five o.clock, - give them some time! Btw, as I said, I'm afraid as moderator of a respectable website I really can't tollerate piracy threats any more than Tom could. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely without any traces. So, just forget about them. - Original Message - From: "Lori Duncan" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Seeing as how it's only been hours sense he posted the message I am not surprised. Lets give it some time -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? >I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the >original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http >://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 > > As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic > directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their > piece. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > >> Hi Dark, >> >> Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. >> >> Smile. >> >> >> On 12/16/10, dark wrote: >>> already done actually tom. >>> >>> see my message to bavisoft. >>> >>> Beware the Grue! >>> >>> Dark. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 5708 (20101216) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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That is very true. I am waiting. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? He only just posted Muhamed. Give it time for Pete's sake. Even people who genuinely want to respond to customers' queries can't do it magically and instantaneously. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
It is fabulous and challenging. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Tiffany, Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? It is in beta testing right now, but it is a mixture of puzzle elements, treasure hunting, as well as the ocational mythical monster or two to kill. You can find it at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/mota.php Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim wrote: Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Muhammed, Dark just posted the message a little while ago. You can't honestly expect Bavisoft to respond that fast. I get loads of e-mails both private and public and some times it takes me a day or two to actually get to some of my messages.Therefore I wouldn't expect anything more or less out of Bavisoft. Give them at least a day or two to see the post and respond. Smile. On 12/16/10, Shiny protector wrote: > Hi Dark, > I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response > from them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Charles, You got that right. As a game developer I respect other game developer's and their companies right to market their products as they wish. I do not have to respect what Bavisoft is doing to their customers though. Therefore as a game developer I wouldn't pirate their software, but would certainly send them a piece of my mind. Smile. On 12/16/10, Charles Rivard wrote: > I very fun and ornery thought, and I would like to see the end result, > although I'll bet you, as a game developer, would not actually do it. Darn! > (grin) > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I very fun and ornery thought, and I would like to see the end result, although I'll bet you, as a game developer, would not actually do it. Darn! (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
He only just posted Muhamed. Give it time for Pete's sake. Even people who genuinely want to respond to customers' queries can't do it magically and instantaneously. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Shouldn't expect them to respond that soon... it'll come eventually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and see how Bavisoft take it. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response from them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well, I wouldn't allow that in the BPC discussion list either. I'm just imagining their reaction. Please, don't do it, we will start to develop again! But I have developed a hunch like forensic scientists do, and my suspicion is that the reason that they are not developing is because they got flamed on Damions list. And BTW when was this? 6 years ago? Why 6 years? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions" Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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We'll probably get into big trouble. But honestly, just disappearing in a flash of torchlight is not on. Ok, lets say Jason doesn't post to the entombed list that mutch, but he still keeps us informed, doesn't he? But someone has to do it not on the audio games forom, just private emails. Don't know if their inbox is bambaseled because of so mutch emails. Lol. But as I said, its disrespectful. And I'd understand why Dark would delete it immediately, cause who ever said it would be flaimed very badly and besides, Dark will be in huge trouble. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions" Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Lets do it. Me and Hayden. Lets send the message, and we'll find out soon enough whether they scream for the audio gamers because they felt extremely sorry, or lets see if they've vanished into the Sahara desert. - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Thoams, Lol...we mustn't be too nasty to the good people of Bavisoft! But seriously, that's almost a good idea; we'd see if they're just hiding or if they're really gone, in which case...upload away! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You might look into BGT, BLastbay Game Toolkit in case you don't know. It's only in Beta stages right now but it's shaping up to be a powerful development utility. The language may seem complicated at first (and I've in no way begun to master it), but once you've read te tutorial through thoroughly a few times and started playing with it it's actually a lot of fun. It basically takes the down and dirty nitty gritty stuff and does that part for you. Basically what you have to do is tell it what you want to do and how you want to do it. Philip Bennefall has been working on this for the better part of a year. The utility will cst something even to develop free games, unless of course you planned on making those particular titles open source, but the prices are reasonable in my book. I own the light version, which allows for the development of as many free itles as you wish. Then you have the Single License version which will cost about a hundred bucks. That allows you to develop one comercial title, though if it's a good one it'll more than cover the 400 dollars cost of the Unlimited version, which of course allows you to develop as many free or commercial games as your heart desires. If you're at all interested you can check out www.blastbay.com to download it and start playing with it. Just don't do what I tried to do and jump right in and start trying to develop a game right off the bat LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You go for it - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou wrote: Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lori, Smile. Sorry, I can't really do that. Being both a game developer myself and a moderator of a respected gaming list it wouldn't be a good president to begin making threats like that to a fellow game developer even if they deserve such a fate. I merely was thinking of a "what if" type situation. I wasn't at all serious about doing something like that personally. Although, it is tempting seeing as I'm sick of their lack of response and general disregard for their customers. Cheers! On 12/16/10, Lori Duncan wrote: > 3 words Tom "GO, FOR, IT!!" --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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3 words Tom "GO, FOR, IT!!" - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tiffany, Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? It is in beta testing right now, but it is a mixture of puzzle elements, treasure hunting, as well as the ocational mythical monster or two to kill. You can find it at http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/mota.php Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim wrote: > Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound > clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting > down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games > which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me > know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tiffany, Well, if you are serious about writing your own games there are definitely a couple of routes you can take. If you don't mind purchasing an accessible game engine like BGT Philip Bennefall has been developing a general purpose game engine for the VI community called BGT. The nice thing about BGT is that he has used an off the shelf scripting language such as Angelscript and wrapped it around a C++ engine that supports Microsoft Sapi, DirectX, etc allowing you to focus on programming your games without worrying about all the really low-level programming like handling things like audio, input, and TTS support from scratch. For a totally new programmer BGT is the best way to go if you are looking at any sort of introduction to programming accessible games. However, if you are interested in a general purpose programming language like C++, Python, or Java and don't mind learning the nuts and bolts of programming games from scratch there is an online programming service I use http://safari.oreilly.com that is a commercial programming resource with hundreds of e-books on anything and everything under the sun. If you pay for a subscription for the Safari service you can litterally go from a self-taught beginner to advanced programmer in a fairly short amount of time, and unlike a classroom environment you can go at your own pace. Cheers! On 12/15/10, Tiffany Kim wrote: > To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that > they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I > did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I > wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid > one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a > bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the > UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in > the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has > been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a > correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own > games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my > to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be > a project I undertake next year! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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agreed, if the games were completely terrible I wouldn't bother at all. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Okay, I just read it and I think it was well written. Do let us know if you hear anything from Bavisoft. Itis a shame they are letting things come to this point, because I always felt that the acting in their titles is great. The sounds aren't bad either. The games are a tad dull for my standards, but still they shouldn't just abandon their customers without any reason as they have done. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid one. For kicks and giggles, I'll write to it and see if I get a bounce or response, but I won't keep my hopes up. Apparently, at the UK site that was recommended, the games are 30 pounds apiece. I'm in the US and don't know the conversion rate, but from what everyone has been saying, I'd be better off using that money to take a correspondence course on programming so I could try developing my own games, lol. Learning how to do something like that has been on my to-do list. Does anyone know where I can go to get started? Might be a project I undertake next year! On 12/15/10, Clement Chou wrote: > Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not > going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I > do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good > precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to > order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much > a waste of time... > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It certainly seems like they have. From the Googling I have done, it appears that games ordered from them take months to arrive if they don't get lost in the post. Considering that their E-mail address for sales inquiries is bouncing, I'll give Computer Room Services UK a holler. If it turns out I can't run the games on my machine, I'll just abandon the idea of purchasing those games and think about other options. Maybe Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry in lieu of Chillingham and one of the wild west pinball tables from Draconis instead of Grizzly Gulch. - Original Message - From: Shiny protector To: "Lori Duncan" ,"Gamers Discussion list" Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:50:54 -0000 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely without any traces. So, just forget about them. - Original Message - From: "Lori Duncan" Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thank you! I know they are probably retro but the puzzles sound clever and that kind of thing appeals to me more than say, shooting down spaceships. If anyone has recommendations for more modern games which challenges the mind but has a storyline, feel free to let me know. On 12/15/10, Lori Duncan wrote: > Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy > road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know > where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey > site I'd order the games from here. > > www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google > computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped > me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little > lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound > quality and voice acting are both really good. > - Original Message - > From: "Tiffany Kim" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > >> Hello Everyone, >> I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly >> Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was >> interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. >> Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still >> seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), >> so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the >> address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are >> still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for >> purchase? Thanks! >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Okay, I just read it and I think it was well written. Do let us know if you hear anything from Bavisoft. Itis a shame they are letting things come to this point, because I always felt that the acting in their titles is great. The sounds aren't bad either. The games are a tad dull for my standards, but still they shouldn't just abandon their customers without any reason as they have done. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the > original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http > ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 > > As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, > sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > >> Hi Dark, >> >> Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. >> >> Smile. >> >> >> On 12/16/10, dark wrote: >>> already done actually tom. >>> >>> see my message to bavisoft. >>> >>> Beware the Grue! >>> >>> Dark. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Nice. it'd be a shame to see the game go to waste. Also i do admit I like the forcefields and vanishing platforms, they remind me of mega man, even if their hardly astec. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's Revenge clone possably as freeware. Of course, if I'm clever about it and write it with a totally new character, music, sounds, and slightly new ideas I could probably sell it as a stand alone product. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: Hi Tom. I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said "don't pirate our games" where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify the situation. Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list owner. Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a fun game in it's own right. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark, Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's Revenge clone possably as freeware. Of course, if I'm clever about it and write it with a totally new character, music, sounds, and slightly new ideas I could probably sell it as a stand alone product. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory > and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said "don't pirate our games" > where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such > topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). > > However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact > them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. > > This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify > the situation. > > Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list > owner. > > Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the > name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. > > i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand > the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any > intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do > however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, > while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a > fun game in it's own right. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I did post a copy to the list, but just in case you want to read the original topic on the forum (and any responses from bavisoft), see http ://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=4495 As I said in that message though, please don't reply to the topic directly, sinse I want to leave the way open for Bavisoft to say their piece. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read. Smile. On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > already done actually tom. > > see my message to bavisoft. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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already done actually tom. see my message to bavisoft. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, Not only that, but you might want to point out or add that adding some sort of download service would greatly improve their order system. For example, on USA Games we have a php script that routes you to Paypal for checkout and ordering, and when done it brings up a secured download page to download the title that expires after 7 days. They could do the same, and with most people on cable or DSL these days there is really no need for shipping physical media to a customer. That would go a long ways to resolving their problem with orders getting lost in the mail, and is automated for the most part. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark wrote: I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite version of a similar principle. for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over this makes that situation far worse. I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. Beware the ~Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said "don't pirate our games" where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net). However, they are literally impossible to contact, heck, I tried to contact them back in 2006 and couldn't get a word, so there's nothing siad. This is why I've allowed it, and if indeed I am wrong I'd be glad to rectify the situation. Stil, I do accept that this is at the discression of the moderator or list owner. Btw, as regards montizumas return, I stil wish you could simply change the name slightly and release it as a free project if nothing else. i will absolutely admit i stil have the game, and while (sinse I understand the legal shenanigans), I won't be redistributing it, neither do I have any intention of deleting it, indeed I've played it on several occasions. I do however feel rather sad that nobody else will get the chance to, sinse, while it's undoubtedly not up to the standard of current Mota, it is stil a fun game in it's own right. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Yeah, good point. In both cases we know that the companies are still in business. With BSC we know that Justin is busy with work and family so BSC Games has been sidelined, but not forgotten. While we don't know exactly what Draconis is doing i do know that they are developing a cross-platform engine, the same as I am, in order to port their titles to Mac OS. As I know this is going to be an extremely long and difficult process I'm not surprised we haven't heard much out of Josh. However, we do know Draconis still does exist, fulfills orders, and so on. However, someone less aware of their activities might assume their stuff is abandoned and do something foolish like pass their games around assuming they are abandoned or something. So you are right automatically assuming something is abandoned even if it is a company like Bavisoft is a poor president to set. Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > unfortunately clemment, > > while to you and I and many people not updating your site and having > bouncing e-mails is sufficient grounds to say someone is no longer a > company, legally that's not how things work. If bavisoft are stil registered > as a company, --- which, by the fact their website is stil up, some orders > at least are filled, and they do to some degree stil communicate even if not > actuallying saying anything useful, they could quite successfully take > someone to court for simply claiming they weren't one. It'd be akin to > someone saying "Welll, that car was just left on the corner of the street > for two weeks, obviously nobody was owning it so I took it" > > As regards piracy, I was actually thinking of Draconis. There games are the > easiest to crack and redistribute, and they in fact haven't released > anything new for some considderable time. > > in fact I believe their last update was in 2008 which was a vista > compatibility fix to many of there games. > > the same could be said of bsc, even if their games are slightly harder to > crack. > > there is! evidence (which is to say there isn't), that they haven't done any > updating of there site sinse the vista patches, which is I think all the amo > some people would need. > > Pluss, i wouldn't personally like to see a situation where any tom dick or > harry could legitimately pirate any game they wished if they happen to feel > that the company hadn't communicated or updated, that would not be > good, (developers would be in terror of their mail servers crashing). > > > Ultimately, it'd be a nasty precedent to set and probably end up doing more > harm than good in the end. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Yohandy, That was exactly my point. I basically wasn't suggesting that someone actually upload and share the games for real. Only that someone jurk their chain a little and convince them that we are going to go through with it to bring them to the bargoning table and open a dialog with their customers. Some of us, such as myself, wouldn't actually upload and share their games on principle. However, I might be willing to convince them I would do so if it would get their attention long enough to give them a piece of my mind, and to tell them to shape up or go out of business. Smile. On 12/15/10, Yohandy wrote: > Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and > they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to respond or > they'll be left wondering and worrying if we'd actually go through with it. > We just need to be convincing about it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Not only that, but you might want to point out or add that adding some sort of download service would greatly improve their order system. For example, on USA Games we have a php script that routes you to Paypal for checkout and ordering, and when done it brings up a secured download page to download the title that expires after 7 days. They could do the same, and with most people on cable or DSL these days there is really no need for shipping physical media to a customer. That would go a long ways to resolving their problem with orders getting lost in the mail, and is automated for the most part. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite > version of a similar principle. > > for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to > expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact > those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record > of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over > this makes that situation far worse. > > I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. > > Beware the ~Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, As far as the piracy rules of the Audyssey list goes we require written permission from the developer/author in order to redistribute games freely. As Dan, Philip Bennefall, and a few developers have publically given permission to redistribute games like Super Deecout, Tarzan Junior, etc we freely do so. With Code Factory they haven't outright said you can't give their games away for free, nor have they given anyone outright permission to do so either. For that reason I haven't put any of their games on my website or allowed anyone to post download links to Audyssey. It is a fine line between piracy and simply redistributing supposed abandonware, and Raul and I would like that definition to be a little more clear cut by the developers. For example, let's take Montezuma's Revenge. That's a game that is clearly abandonware, and I certainly created it. I have very clear cut and specific reasons for not wanting the game to be redistributed. I made a legal agreement not to redistribute/continue that game and am probably legally bound by that agreement. Now, if someone starts passing it around I could end up in trouble for it even though I wasn't the one who initiated the distribution. For that reason I have a firm no redistribution polacy with that game. In other developers' cases, Code Factory, even though they currently have no support for their games doesn't mean that a year from now they will release new versions of said games. In which case we would have given away a number of their games for free, pirated them, even though they themselves had something in the works regarding those titles. Therefore it is a good safeguard, even if it is nothing more than a formality, to get the developer's permission before redistributing software freely. We really don't know that Code Factory, Bavisoft, etc really has nothing planned in the future. All we know is the appear to be abandoned at the moment. Cheers! On 12/16/10, dark wrote: > Well as I said yohandi, code factory is a case of bending rather than > breaking rules. > > Sinse the games are impossible to get hold of anymore, and code factory does > nothing to support them, some people on audiogames.net have been trying to > distribute the games. > > I'm not prepared to stick this on the database or news, but sinse code > factory haven't (unlike bavisoft), told us we absolutely can't, there's sort > of a grey area here, so while we are usually dead against piracy on > audiogames.net, I've allowed people to keep posting links (indeed I don't > say that I might not have downloaded copies myself > > I am not sure of what Tom's thoughts are relating to audeasy and this > matter, so won't post any links here. > > As I said, > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Indeed, in 2006 I got both games myself within three weeks. this is again why i'm not prepared to issue them with a now or never ultimatum, sinse manifestly they do! stil fill some orders, it just so happens there are others which they don't. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Greg Steel" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi this is strange that they don't respond to anyones emails or orders I bought both of the games 2 years ago and I got them a month later after my birthday which was in June. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Oh I've been tempted to do that. Then again not many people would be able to play them anymore since they're hardly Vista compatible, let alone Windows 7. Except what I'd be tempted to do is post and say that I had already done it. Of course then I'd have a lot of the rest of the community mad at me if I posted a fake link. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@a
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Legally again, that is something of a sticky whickit and they could quite probably object. As I said I'll think of a more correct way of phraising this sort of thing on the forum and see what comes about. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to respond or they'll be left wondering and worrying if we'd actually go through with it. We just need to be convincing about it. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing > myself, > issuing them with an ultimatum. > > shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. > > There are only two reasons why i haven't. > > firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal > trouble. > > Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict > policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for > people > posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this > is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or > news), > this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally > available > games, which we really can't condone. > > Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn > up > and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here > are > cracked versions" > > > Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, > the > games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever > and > retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game > players for > all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on > chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got > his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' > father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home > and > provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it > now!" > > > methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. > > Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the > topic. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make cha
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Well as I said yohandi, code factory is a case of bending rather than breaking rules. Sinse the games are impossible to get hold of anymore, and code factory does nothing to support them, some people on audiogames.net have been trying to distribute the games. I'm not prepared to stick this on the database or news, but sinse code factory haven't (unlike bavisoft), told us we absolutely can't, there's sort of a grey area here, so while we are usually dead against piracy on audiogames.net, I've allowed people to keep posting links (indeed I don't say that I might not have downloaded copies myself I am not sure of what Tom's thoughts are relating to audeasy and this matter, so won't post any links here. As I said, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I agree, as I said, i will considder a way of writing bavisoft a more polite version of a similar principle. for instance, I may point out to them that it is unreasonable of them to expect people not to put there games up for download online when in fact those games cannot be obtained legitimately given bavisoft's horrible record of processing orders, and that their lack of ability to be contacted over this makes that situation far worse. I will have a think and see how best to word such a message. Beware the ~Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I will have a think about seeing if I can put such an idea in a more polite, - and less possibly illegal way if i can. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing > myself, > issuing them with an ultimatum. > > shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. > > There are only two reasons why i haven't. > > firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal > trouble. > > Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict > policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people > posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this > is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or > news), > this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally > available > games, which we really can't condone. > > Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn > up > and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are > cracked versions" > > > Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the > games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and > retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players > for > all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on > chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got > his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' > father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and > provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it > now!" > > > methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. > > Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi this is strange that they don't respond to anyones emails or orders I bought both of the games 2 years ago and I got them a month later after my birthday which was in June. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Oh I've been tempted to do that. Then again not many people would be able to play them anymore since they're hardly Vista compatible, let alone Windows 7. Except what I'd be tempted to do is post and say that I had already done it. Of course then I'd have a lot of the rest of the community mad at me if I posted a fake link. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Oh I've been tempted to do that. Then again not many people would be able to play them anymore since they're hardly Vista compatible, let alone Windows 7. Except what I'd be tempted to do is post and say that I had already done it. Of course then I'd have a lot of the rest of the community mad at me if I posted a fake link. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to respond or they'll be left wondering and worrying if we'd actually go through with it. We just need to be convincing about it. - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing > myself, > issuing them with an ultimatum. > > shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. > > There are only two reasons why i haven't. > > firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal > trouble. > > Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict > policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people > posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this > is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or > news), > this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally > available > games, which we really can't condone. > > Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn > up > and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are > cracked versions" > > > Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the > games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and > retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players > for > all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on > chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got > his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' > father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and > provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it > now!" > > > methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. > > Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hahahahahahahaha! awesome post! You know, now that you mention it, Code Factory games are some I'd actually love to get a hold of. Those can actually be shared now correct? That company isn't making or supporting their games any longer. I'm a bit sad I was never able to buy them. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions" Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to order directly through them or contact them via email is pretty much a waste of time... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will leave it as just that. An idea. At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, > issuing them with an ultimatum. > > shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. > > There are only two reasons why i haven't. > > firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. > > Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict > policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people > posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this > is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), > this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available > games, which we really can't condone. > > Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up > and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are > cracked versions" > > > Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the > games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and > retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for > all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on > chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got > his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' > father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and > provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" > > > methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. > > Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi, Nope--they're MP3s, all of them. Those that aren't (did I say all of them? ) are in ogg or wma format. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi haiden. you'd be surprised actually how litle space games take up. My laptop is 5 years old and has a 32 gb harddrive (yes, it's tiny!). and yet I've got all the gma titles accept for packman talks, most of Draconis and bsc, Tarzan jr, Judgement day and superliam, the three games from vip gameszone, some of 7-128's games, tom's stuff, some of the spoonbill games, smugglers 3 and 4, entombed, some of Jim's games, Rail racer, Q9 and Sarah, and all that only comes to 2.85 gb. As to your own drive, You'd actually be surprised how much space music takes up, especially if it's in wav format, one wav cd will be a good 700 mb. if your wripping cd's in wav I'd suggest either converting them or changing your method sinse otherwise you'll end up losing lots of space. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > Hi Dark, > W...a lot more than 16 gb, I'd guess. I've got a pathetic harddrive > with > about 90 gb of memory, and I have quite a few games, plus a little music; > but that together brings me up to 75 gb or so disk space used. > > Best Regards, > Hayden > > > -Original Message- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of dark > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:34 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > Ooopse! memo to self, even when in hurry write message correctly, ;D. > > I will say though a 160 gb audio game would be fantastic! and assuming > that > most of that would be audio, that would mean about 2500 hours, which would > probably amount to enough gameplay for about four years! ;D. > > I actually wonder if you collected together all the audio games that are > listed on audiogames.net and the pcs games list and installed them all > into > one directory if you'd even come to 16 gb, let alone 160! > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Yohandy" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > >> Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just >> messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "dark" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? >> >> >>> Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost >>> unbelieveable. >>> >>> Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, >>> E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on >>> the > >>> audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of >>> consequence. >>> >>> thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and >>> worst > >>> of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell >>> games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd >>> in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. >>> >>> Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that >>> their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up >>> on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are >>> working on something but don't want to release any details", though >>> sinse > >>> they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people >>> are > >>> rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not >>> functioning. >>> >>> Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a >>> shame > >>> sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice >>> acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a >>> good basis for future titles. >>>
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unfortunately clemment, while to you and I and many people not updating your site and having bouncing e-mails is sufficient grounds to say someone is no longer a company, legally that's not how things work. If bavisoft are stil registered as a company, --- which, by the fact their website is stil up, some orders at least are filled, and they do to some degree stil communicate even if not actuallying saying anything useful, they could quite successfully take someone to court for simply claiming they weren't one. It'd be akin to someone saying "Welll, that car was just left on the corner of the street for two weeks, obviously nobody was owning it so I took it" As regards piracy, I was actually thinking of Draconis. There games are the easiest to crack and redistribute, and they in fact haven't released anything new for some considderable time. in fact I believe their last update was in 2008 which was a vista compatibility fix to many of there games. the same could be said of bsc, even if their games are slightly harder to crack. there is! evidence (which is to say there isn't), that they haven't done any updating of there site sinse the vista patches, which is I think all the amo some people would need. Pluss, i wouldn't personally like to see a situation where any tom dick or harry could legitimately pirate any game they wished if they happen to feel that the company hadn't communicated or updated, that would not be good, (developers would be in terror of their mail servers crashing). Ultimately, it'd be a nasty precedent to set and probably end up doing more harm than good in the end. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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To be honest, I wouldn't be all too ashamed if I did do it... and if they said Chillingham 2 was going to be released in 2004, development shouldn't hault for 5 years. 6, I guess actually.. not even mainstream games do that. And there's a counterargument to having someone uploading pirated stuff from developers who haven't released recently. IF a person does you wait and say unless you have proof, kep the cracks away. But when your emails are bouncing, your site hasn't ben updated in 6 years and the developers aren't telling anyone squat except please be patient we have things coming, your company is as good as gone to me... At 04:10 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote: funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions" Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games altogether. None of this we are working on something, but won't tell you what it is, or we don't read or e-mail because of spam crap. There comes a time when a company like that is just asking for someone to pirate them out of existance or something. HOwever, straight people like you and I will try to honor them even if they don't really deserve it just on principle. Smile. On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, > issuing them with an ultimatum. > > shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. > > There are only two reasons why i haven't. > > firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. > > Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict > policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people > posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this > is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), > this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available > games, which we really can't condone. > > Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up > and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are > cracked versions" > > > Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the > games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and > retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for > all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on > chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got > his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' > father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and > provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" > > > methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. > > Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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That's an evil thought... but I like it. I'm almost tempted. But it would be interesting to see the reaction from them... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi haiden. you'd be surprised actually how litle space games take up. My laptop is 5 years old and has a 32 gb harddrive (yes, it's tiny!). and yet I've got all the gma titles accept for packman talks, most of Draconis and bsc, Tarzan jr, Judgement day and superliam, the three games from vip gameszone, some of 7-128's games, tom's stuff, some of the spoonbill games, smugglers 3 and 4, entombed, some of Jim's games, Rail racer, Q9 and Sarah, and all that only comes to 2.85 gb. As to your own drive, You'd actually be surprised how much space music takes up, especially if it's in wav format, one wav cd will be a good 700 mb. if your wripping cd's in wav I'd suggest either converting them or changing your method sinse otherwise you'll end up losing lots of space. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi Dark, W...a lot more than 16 gb, I'd guess. I've got a pathetic harddrive with about 90 gb of memory, and I have quite a few games, plus a little music; but that together brings me up to 75 gb or so disk space used. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Ooopse! memo to self, even when in hurry write message correctly, ;D. I will say though a 160 gb audio game would be fantastic! and assuming that most of that would be audio, that would mean about 2500 hours, which would probably amount to enough gameplay for about four years! ;D. I actually wonder if you collected together all the audio games that are listed on audiogames.net and the pcs games list and installed them all into one directory if you'd even come to 16 gb, let alone 160! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. - Original Message ----- From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archive
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funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself, issuing them with an ultimatum. shape up or officially go bust, no more of this idiotic hanging about. There are only two reasons why i haven't. firstly, I don't want to get audiogames.net into any sort of legal trouble. Secondly, as a moderator I must considder that we have a fairly strict policy about piracy. While rules have occasionally been bent for people posting links to old or abandoned games such as code factory's, (though this is kept on a strictly unofficial basis and out of the database or news), this would be directly placing free copies of at least nominally available games, which we really can't condone. Afterall, that potentially opens the way for some scumbag to then turn up and say "Well, company x hasn't released games for a while, so here are cracked versions" Finally, suppose Bavisoft then said "oh fine! you ungreatful bunch, the games are now abandonware, we're going to quit developement forever and retire to the country where we'll spend time cursing audio game players for all iternity for destroying our ambition! We were actually working on chillingham 2 who's developement was stopped because our lead programmer got his legs bitten off by a shark while sunbathing, and our second programmers' father went mad and thought he was a horse so she needed to go home and provide him with large supplies of oats, but you'll never see it now!" methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty. Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, W...a lot more than 16 gb, I'd guess. I've got a pathetic harddrive with about 90 gb of memory, and I have quite a few games, plus a little music; but that together brings me up to 75 gb or so disk space used. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Ooopse! memo to self, even when in hurry write message correctly, ;D. I will say though a 160 gb audio game would be fantastic! and assuming that most of that would be audio, that would mean about 2500 hours, which would probably amount to enough gameplay for about four years! ;D. I actually wonder if you collected together all the audio games that are listed on audiogames.net and the pcs games list and installed them all into one directory if you'd even come to 16 gb, let alone 160! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just > messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. > > - Original Message - > From: "dark" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? > > >> Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost >> unbelieveable. >> >> Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, >> E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the >> audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. >> >> thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst >> of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell >> games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd >> in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. >> >> Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that >> their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up >> on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are >> working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse >> they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are >> rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not >> functioning. >> >> Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame >> sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice >> acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a >> good basis for future titles. >> >> Beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Tiffany Kim" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? >> >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly >>> Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was >>> interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. >>> Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still >>> seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), >>> so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the >>> address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are >>> still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for >>> purchase? Thanks! >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web
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Hi Thoams, Lol...we mustn't be too nasty to the good people of Bavisoft! But seriously, that's almost a good idea; we'd see if they're just hiding or if they're really gone, in which case...upload away! Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought > both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have > heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. > > that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any > communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's > orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of > windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. > > I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a > topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere > as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we > here a peep out of them. > > Beware the grue! > > dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft. Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answering their e-mail, correct shipping order problems, etc person x is going to simply upload their games somewhere and give them away for free. Yeah, I know, it is pretty low, but I'm sure they would be climbing out of their collective holes to sscream for people not to do that too them. The obvious reply would be for them to A, be able to be contacted via their support addresses, and B, that they disclose any and all projects they are working on immediately. Otherwise we don't believe you and Bavisoft doesn't exist. Now, wouldn't that burn their butts. Lol! I'm not suggesting that anyone actually do this, but wouldn't it be funny? Could you imagine them getting bent out of shape because a number of their customers just revolted and plastered Bavisoft's games over the internet, because Bavisoft never answeres their e-mail etc? Cheers! On 12/15/10, dark wrote: > A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought > both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have > heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. > > that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any > communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's > orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of > windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. > > I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a > topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere > as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we > here a peep out of them. > > Beware the grue! > > dark. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have. that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor giving any communication beyond "don't make our games abandonware" even to those who's orders go missing is beyond me, to say nothing about not even a mention of windows 7 compatibility or indeed any news from them at all. I'm sorry to say, the only real way to communicate with bavisoft is post a topic on audiogames.net saying that their games should be stuck up somewhere as abandonware for people to download freely, sinse this is the only time we here a peep out of them. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Ooopse! memo to self, even when in hurry write message correctly, ;D. I will say though a 160 gb audio game would be fantastic! and assuming that most of that would be audio, that would mean about 2500 hours, which would probably amount to enough gameplay for about four years! ;D. I actually wonder if you collected together all the audio games that are listed on audiogames.net and the pcs games list and installed them all into one directory if you'd even come to 16 gb, let alone 160! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tiffany, To be honest I really wouldn't bother attempting to order from Bavisoft. They claim that they are still in business, but they have the absolutely worst reputation possible when it comes to processing orders and answering their e-mail. You might place an order and never recieve it, or you will get it after a long time has passed. They rarely if ever answer their e-mail, and although they claim they are working on something they haven't made an official release in something like six years. If the company isn't gone it might as well be given the fact they do nothing to promote and support the products they do have. Cheers! On 12/14/10, Tiffany Kim wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly > Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was > interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. > Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still > seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), > so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the > address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are > still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for > purchase? Thanks! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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no with both games loaded its around 300mb in size. thats is about 1 of the big blind games and most of the later ones come just under that. At 08:17 a.m. 16/12/2010, you wrote: Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Sounds sort of scammy - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable. Their last game release was 2004, and nobody has heard a thing sinse, E-mails to them bounce, and though they have occasionally surfaced on the audiogames.net forum they've rarely if ever said anything of consequence. thier games have recived no updates to work with windows vista, and worst of all, some orders have gone missing. Why in fact they continue to sell games which are only 160 gb in size (sarah is almost as big), only on cd in these days of very high speed net connections I have no idea at all. Sad to say, the only way to get a peep out of them is to suggest that their games should be made abandonware, at which point they will pop up on the ag.net forum and say "no, please buy our games, we are working on something but don't want to release any details", though sinse they've been saying the same thing for the last five years now people are rather scheptical at the least, especially with their mail address not functioning. Really their conduct as a company has been quite shoddy, which is a shame sinse the games, though symplistic in parts do have some good voice acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a good basis for future titles. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
It certainlly does seem dodgey I admit, but if you're stuck for a game and are new to audiogames then they might be a good place to start. - Original Message - From: "Charles Rivard" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? I would base whether I buy any company's games on the responses I get from the company. No response? No sale. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I would base whether I buy any company's games on the responses I get from the company. No response? No sale. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi I don't know what's up with them, they just seemed to have taken the lazy road and vannished completely with no reason for doing so. I don't know where you're based, but I thought rather than go through a possibley dodgey site I'd order the games from here. www.computerroomservices.co.uk If that link isn't right just google computer room services uk. The guy there is also totally blind and helped me out with buying the Bavisoft games. Both games are good if a little lacking in places and repeating of puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound quality and voice acting are both really good. - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Kim" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around? Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Four words for you. Don't waste your time. At 05:24 PM 14/12/2010, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hello Everyone, I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website. Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still seems to work. I know the games are quite old (Windows 98, anyone?), so I thought I'd write to the salespeople there but my E-mail to the address given bounced. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether they are still up and running, and if so, are these games still available for purchase? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
